Full Transcript for The Office (USA)

time. 00:02:57.127 --> 00:03:16.825 Yes, we didn't always agree on which comedies we found funny, but we enjoyed discussing them and arguing about what we thought was funny, yeah, and what we liked or disliked about shows, and at the end of the conversation it didn't matter, which is true now and still true today. 00:03:16.825 --> 00:03:27.170 And your comments about theatre yeah Well, we both love theatre, that is true, and when we go to the theatre we often go multiple times. 00:03:27.340 --> 00:03:27.580 Yeah. 00:03:28.442 --> 00:03:36.992 And just to see something different, to see different reactions, or see something that others have discussed that we might have missed when we watched it. 00:03:36.992 --> 00:03:39.640 And it's the same with comedy shows. 00:03:39.640 --> 00:03:45.933 When you like a comedy show, you watch it multiple times and pick up new things as you're watching. 00:03:45.933 --> 00:03:51.531 And this is why we want to do this, because we want to go deep, deep within the programme. 00:03:51.531 --> 00:03:53.944 Deep Welcome to the show. 00:03:53.944 --> 00:04:03.294 This week is my choice, and we'll be talking about the Office, the US version. 00:04:04.300 --> 00:04:05.847 Amanda, tell us about the Office. 00:04:05.847 --> 00:04:13.659 The Office is a mockumentary focused on the employees of the Scranton Pennsylvania branch of the Dunder Mifflin Paper Company. 00:04:13.659 --> 00:04:27.334 It ran for nine seasons and 201 episodes on the NBC network, beginning on March 24th 2005 and ending on May 16th 2013. 00:04:27.334 --> 00:04:40.853 Imdb describes the office as a mockumentary on a group of typical office workers where the workday consists of ego clashes, inappropriate behaviour and tedium. 00:04:40.853 --> 00:04:49.524 The office was based on the earlier BBC series of the same name, which was created by Ricky Gervais and Stephen Merchant. 00:04:49.524 --> 00:04:58.733 It was adapted for American television by Greg Daniels, a veteran writer whose credits include Saturday Night Live and the Simpsons. 00:04:59.535 --> 00:05:04.505 Imdb gives the series an overall rating of 9 out of 10. 00:05:04.505 --> 00:05:06.490 Why only 9? 00:05:06.490 --> 00:05:12.406 Well, the truth is, amanda can't tell me, because how many episodes of the Office have you watched? 00:05:12.406 --> 00:05:20.651 Not that many, yeah, we're starting on one that Amanda hasn't got a huge knowledge base of. 00:05:20.651 --> 00:05:22.757 No, no, I've never. 00:05:22.757 --> 00:05:28.202 It's been on my list to watch, but I haven't actually got round to it in the last 10 years. 00:05:28.202 --> 00:05:38.785 In the last 10 years, no, I had seen one episode which you suggested I watched one day while I was exercising on a treadmill. 00:05:38.785 --> 00:05:47.540 Yeah, and that was a christmas episode and I thought it was okay, but I wasn't really inspired to watch anymore at that point. 00:05:47.540 --> 00:05:59.250 And then last summer we went on a long-awaited holiday to New York yeah, long-awaited, after Covid and everything, yes, and there wasn't much for me to watch on the plane. 00:05:59.250 --> 00:06:04.548 There was so much for you to watch, mom, it was just you didn't want to watch it Nothing of interest. 00:06:04.569 --> 00:06:08.608 Nothing jumped out at you, no, and there it was the Office. 00:06:08.608 --> 00:06:21.725 I watched about half of season three on the way to New York and nearly watched the rest of the series on the way back, although I didn't finish it. 00:06:21.725 --> 00:06:22.882 You didn't finish it, I have to say. 00:06:22.882 --> 00:06:27.326 I watched the rest of season three a little bit later, but I didn't do it straight away. 00:06:27.326 --> 00:06:30.350 But I thought I should at least finish that season. 00:06:30.350 --> 00:06:39.242 And then you decided that the Office was the series you were choosing an episode from, and actually I knew you were going to choose the Office First of all. 00:06:39.242 --> 00:06:42.391 There was going to be no question that you were going to choose the Office first. 00:06:42.391 --> 00:06:45.786 I knew it was also going to be an episode I wouldn't have seen. 00:06:45.786 --> 00:06:48.413 No, I deliberately picked an episode you haven't seen. 00:06:48.413 --> 00:06:50.622 You got to the end of series three. 00:06:50.983 --> 00:06:58.223 You saw Jim go into the Office and ask Pam out for a date and then you went oh, I just stopped there. 00:06:58.223 --> 00:06:59.665 I'm done with that for a bit. 00:06:59.665 --> 00:07:01.007 Yeah, that'll do. 00:07:01.007 --> 00:07:01.728 Is that right? 00:07:01.728 --> 00:07:07.523 The thing is there's so many spoilers out there, so I knew that those two were going to be together. 00:07:07.523 --> 00:07:11.274 You don't really have to have spoilers from the outside, but I get it. 00:07:11.274 --> 00:07:13.444 They were always going to end up together. 00:07:13.444 --> 00:07:21.399 But I was a bit confused by some of the things that were happening in there, for example, in the episode that you chose, which we haven't got to yet. 00:07:21.399 --> 00:07:22.483 Which we haven't got to yet. 00:07:22.483 --> 00:07:35.449 But but Michael is in a relationship with Jan, yeah, whereas in the season I saw he split up with her after chatting to the girls from the office and saying how mean she was. 00:07:35.449 --> 00:07:38.689 So I was really surprised that he was actually back with her. 00:07:38.689 --> 00:07:47.101 Yeah, there's a lot to unwrap with that, which we're not going to be able to do, I don't think in this episode, but yeah, there's definitely a build-up to it. 00:07:47.101 --> 00:07:50.184 As you probably guessed, it was quite a toxic relationship. 00:07:50.625 --> 00:07:56.148 Now, you haven't watched the US one, but you've obviously watched the British version Multiple times. 00:07:56.148 --> 00:07:58.209 I love the British version. 00:07:58.209 --> 00:08:02.312 So what you're saying is

the British version is better than the US version. 00:08:02.312 --> 00:08:06.314 At this point, I would definitely say that Whoa. 00:08:06.314 --> 00:08:13.382 To be fair, I haven't seen the whole series of the US version, so I can't At this point. 00:08:13.382 --> 00:08:15.629 Yes, I'm saying the British version is better. 00:08:15.629 --> 00:08:21.326 However, once I've watched every season of the American Office, I might change my mind. 00:08:21.326 --> 00:08:27.988 I wouldn't recommend you watch the first season of the US Office because it's a carbon copy of the British one. 00:08:27.988 --> 00:08:35.971 I know Dwight's quite a different character to Garris and things like that, but you probably get the gist of it by going heading straight into season two. 00:08:35.971 --> 00:08:43.150 Obviously, the Office is nine seasons, so there's no way we can condense nine seasons into something like this. 00:08:43.150 --> 00:08:48.169 So I reserve the right to go back to the the office so there'll be no spoilers to the end. 00:08:48.169 --> 00:08:54.046 But jim and pam do get together shocker. 00:08:54.586 --> 00:09:04.048 Just to give you a bit of background to me as well as somebody who's a self-confessed geek, I'm not very good at quotes from things. 00:09:04.048 --> 00:09:10.443 I don't get geeky about quotes or useless information with contained within an episode. 00:09:10.443 --> 00:09:14.513 For example, I don't know how many brothers or sisters Pam has. 00:09:14.513 --> 00:09:21.222 You've got a lot of fan bases where they can break down each character, who they are, what their family situation is. 00:09:21.222 --> 00:09:30.812 I'm not very good on that, but I like the fun behind the scenes stuff the writing process, how the series came together, how the writers were involved. 00:09:30.812 --> 00:09:32.264 Was it a writer's story? 00:09:32.264 --> 00:09:38.144 Because obviously Greg Daniels is the writer of the US office, but he was a writer for hire. 00:09:38.144 --> 00:09:41.472 He didn't pitch the idea to the network, which was NBC. 00:09:41.472 --> 00:09:44.687 He was employed to write the series. 00:09:44.687 --> 00:09:49.326 So that's the stuff that I find fascinating and tends to stick in my memory. 00:09:49.326 --> 00:09:57.743 If somebody gives me a quote from the Office, I'd probably go yeah, that's from the Office, but not be able to riff on it or anything like that, so get that out the way. 00:09:57.942 --> 00:10:00.668 So it's not season four, episode three. 00:10:00.668 --> 00:10:02.232 Season four, episode three. 00:10:02.232 --> 00:10:03.104 Do you remember what happened? 00:10:03.104 --> 00:10:04.171 No, what's season four, episode three. 00:10:04.171 --> 00:10:04.835 Do you remember what happened? 00:10:04.835 --> 00:10:05.580 No, what's season four, episode three. 00:10:05.580 --> 00:10:19.551 The episode we're doing today is season four, episode 9, called Dinner Party. 00:10:19.551 --> 00:10:25.432 According to my trivia deck and episode guide, this is actually episode 13. 00:10:25.432 --> 00:10:30.412 And bear in mind this is official NBC merch Made in China. 00:10:30.412 --> 00:10:44.706 Let me say what it said Jim, pam, angela and Andy are invited or, I would argue, tricked to a dinner party at Michael and Jan's condo, but the hosts get into an argument about having children so the guests try to leave. 00:10:44.706 --> 00:10:49.464 Dwight arrives with his old babysitter as his date to make Angela jealous. 00:10:49.464 --> 00:10:53.393 The police are eventually called by a neighbour and Michael leaves Jan. 00:10:54.019 --> 00:10:59.692 The reason why I picked this episode is it's often cited as one of the best episodes of the Office. 00:10:59.692 --> 00:11:06.066 Often cited as one of the best episodes of the Office. 00:11:06.066 --> 00:11:08.674 It currently is a 9.4 on IMDb and I think it's because of the extremes of the characters. 00:11:08.674 --> 00:11:22.761 Disney speaking, it's not my favourite, but I picked it because it's such a big episode to explore and there's no way again we're going to be able to get down to the nitty-gritty of it here, but it's a fun one and it proves to someone who doesn't really watch it that it is a funny series. 00:11:22.761 --> 00:11:25.509 Yes, I enjoyed the episode. 00:11:26.009 --> 00:11:27.573 It made you laugh out loud, didn't it? 00:11:27.573 --> 00:11:36.514 It did as I was watching, I made a little note of every time I laughed out loud, and throughout the show I laughed 10 times. 00:11:36.514 --> 00:11:44.208 That is really good, which is really high, because quite often when you're watching something, you find it funny but you don't always laugh out loud. 00:11:44.208 --> 00:11:47.529 Generally, if I laugh out loud at something, it shocks me. 00:11:47.529 --> 00:11:50.866 It was so good, I really enjoyed it. 00:11:50.866 --> 00:11:53.729 And how they filmed it I don't know. 00:11:53.729 --> 00:11:55.846 Well, they did struggle to film it. 00:11:55.846 --> 00:12:00.850 There's so many outtakes you can find on YouTube and on the DVDs of the Office. 00:12:01.150 --> 00:12:21.116 I love this episode, but it's not my favourite because a lot of the characters in the Office are not in it for the main part, and this is a reason why I like this episode, because I preferred the episodes of the series that I watched that were set out of the Office, but then you missed the point of the office. 00:12:21.116 --> 00:12:25.365 It's called the office the office, yes, granted. 00:12:25.365 --> 00:12:36.352 However, I did enjoy the fact that they were not in the office, that it was different, and seeing where michael lives, michael's condo and the characters there. 00:12:36.352 --> 00:12:40.148 At the beginning, it was obvious that nobody had ever been there. 00:12:40.148 --> 00:12:41.731 Dwight had been there. 00:12:41.731 --> 00:12:44.267 Amanda who wrote the episode? 00:12:44.267 --> 00:12:50.927 Written by the writing team of Lee

Eisenberg and Gene Stupnitsky and directed by Paul Feig? 00:12:50.927 --> 00:12:53.869 And how did Gene frame it? 00:12:53.869 --> 00:12:56.551 As who's afraid of John Levinson? 00:12:56.551 --> 00:12:57.543 Who's afraid? 00:12:57.602 --> 00:12:58.606 of John Levinson. 00:12:59.059 --> 00:13:05.729 Yeah, because in earlier drafts Greg Daniels called it Virginia Woolf because of the echoes to the Edward Albee play. 00:13:05.729 --> 00:13:07.903 Yeah, it starts in the office. 00:13:07.903 --> 00:13:09.068 The whole gang are there. 00:13:09.068 --> 00:13:17.929 They've been told to work late, but Michael is not happy about it so he jumps on the phone to corporate telling them they won't be working late. 00:13:17.929 --> 00:13:36.855 No, I think you'll find he was literally shouting down the phone at corporate in an action that was so clearly that there was nobody on the other end of the phone and it just meant that jim and ham and andy and angela were free to go to dinner. 00:13:36.855 --> 00:13:39.383 I thought that was quite clever of him. 00:13:39.383 --> 00:13:40.004 I'm sorry. 00:13:40.024 --> 00:13:56.447 Sorry, it was hugely manipulative, but actually clever of Michael, he's not usually that supremely clever, because he knew they couldn't have had plans and clearly he'd been trying to do this for ages, as Jim says that he'd invited them over many, many times and they'd always had an excuse. 00:13:56.447 --> 00:13:58.952 Exactly right, jim and Pam turn up there. 00:13:58.952 --> 00:14:00.160 They're starving, hungry. 00:14:00.160 --> 00:14:04.524 They didn't want to go there, they just want to sit down and have some food and go to bed. 00:14:04.524 --> 00:14:11.990 It's a Friday night, but it's good news because Jan has got the dinner on, so in three hours time it will be served. 00:14:11.990 --> 00:14:31.888 Laugh out loud moments when Michael asks Jim what he'd been up to and Jim says in the hours since I last saw you, I've been getting ready and driving here, and Michael says to me like, or me too, apart from the driving over here. 00:14:31.888 --> 00:14:38.152 They really made me laugh and I also liked the way that they both hugged Jim and ignored Pam. 00:14:38.152 --> 00:14:44.860 Yeah, because Jan thinks Pam likes Michael and who's told him that Michael? 00:14:44.860 --> 00:14:46.946 Yeah, awful. 00:14:46.946 --> 00:15:05.663 Now this is one of the things I want to talk about the office, because would it be made today, not in the same way that, for example, the boss suggesting that the receptionist or his worker had feelings for him and he'd also told jan that they dated? 00:15:05.663 --> 00:15:08.809 Yeah, exactly right, that is horrible. 00:15:08.809 --> 00:15:11.761 They're talking about doing the new version of it. 00:15:11.761 --> 00:15:14.788 The writer, greg daniels, is actually in talks too. 00:15:14.788 --> 00:15:16.821 I don't even know if they've made a pilot now. 00:15:16.821 --> 00:15:19.004 I don't know what stage they're at it. 00:15:19.004 --> 00:15:20.668 It can still be really funny. 00:15:21.149 --> 00:15:23.474 There are so many different sorts of office. 00:15:23.474 --> 00:15:26.769 Jan, she's a guest character and she's brilliant. 00:15:26.769 --> 00:15:32.610 She's so good, and I'd seen her previously in the episode where they'd broken up. 00:15:32.610 --> 00:15:43.472 Yeah, where he broke up with her by phone and they were telling him not to, and then she arrived and listened to his dumping in front of him. 00:15:43.472 --> 00:15:46.326 Horrible, there is a fine line with him. 00:15:46.326 --> 00:15:50.582 I find sometimes that he's too much, not the way steve corral plays him. 00:15:50.582 --> 00:15:56.445 Steve corral plays him to perfection, but there's parts of his characters which are not lovable. 00:15:56.445 --> 00:16:00.907 Right at the beginning they were saying he's more lovable than ricky gervais character david branton. 00:16:00.907 --> 00:16:02.298 He's not lovable than Ricky Gervais' character David Brent. 00:16:02.298 --> 00:16:02.639 And he's not. 00:16:02.639 --> 00:16:04.967 But was that written by an American? 00:16:04.967 --> 00:16:06.865 Oh, yeah, written by an American. 00:16:06.865 --> 00:16:10.549 Yeah, they wanted him softer than David Brent. 00:16:10.549 --> 00:16:17.652 Obviously, I haven't seen the whole thing, but Michael's character doesn't come across in the same way that David Brent. 00:16:18.102 --> 00:16:20.120 He seems that he's got a much crueler streak. 00:16:20.341 --> 00:16:22.428 Yeah, he's got a really dark side of him. 00:16:22.428 --> 00:16:30.322 But in this episode this is not one of the dark Michael Scott episodes, because you feel sorry for him in this one, don't? 00:16:30.322 --> 00:16:39.346 You Totally feel sorry for him and Steve Carell's performance and Jan Melora Hardin they are equally brilliant. 00:16:39.346 --> 00:16:42.673 I don't know why Melora Hardin hasn't got her own TV theories. 00:16:42.673 --> 00:16:46.951 She auditioned for one of the Friends characters. 00:16:46.951 --> 00:16:48.365 Obviously it might not be true. 00:16:48.365 --> 00:16:50.225 She was a very strong contender. 00:16:50.225 --> 00:16:54.389 They wanted her and she later appeared in an episode where she dates Ross. 00:16:54.389 --> 00:17:05.894 But you know good actors, really good actors You're going to see them crop in lots of different things because so many people are brilliant actors, but it doesn't mean they can act comedy. 00:17:05.894 --> 00:17:11.046 If somebody can do comedy, well, I think they can do serious drama. 00:17:11.426 --> 00:17:18.068 I think that's yes, but it's not the other way around the subtleties, yeah, quiet, for for everything. 00:17:18.589 --> 00:17:25.829 and a brilliant example of somebody you wouldn't consider being able to do comedy but is actually brilliant at it Harrison Ford. 00:17:25.829 --> 00:17:29.589 Oh gosh, we're going to talk about shrinking one day. 00:17:29.589 --> 00:17:33.089

Why haven't we seen more comedy with Harrison Ford? 00:17:33.089 --> 00:17:35.970 I feel cheated all these years. 00:17:35.970 --> 00:17:50.963 I know he did comedy bits in films he's funny in Indiana Jones and things like that but proper comedy are wasted wasted, I tell you there we go we're talking about an episode of the office and we're meandering. 00:17:51.203 --> 00:17:53.648 We're meandering which I knew would happen. 00:17:53.648 --> 00:18:00.009 Jim and pam they're at the house and they just want to eat, but unfortunately they have to do the tour of the house. 00:18:00.009 --> 00:18:08.471 They go upstairs, we see jan's office, which has clearly never been used, and then, of course, her workspace. 00:18:08.471 --> 00:18:12.708 She can't be expected to be using the same space, of course not. 00:18:12.708 --> 00:18:14.873 She can't use a workspace on her office space. 00:18:14.873 --> 00:18:19.409 It can't be the same place, can they have to have somewhere to be creative? 00:18:19.588 --> 00:18:29.082 But also, she can't sleep in the same bed as michael, and this is where we feel sorry for him, that he has to sleep on a bench at the end of her bed. 00:18:29.082 --> 00:18:35.861 Yeah, and I say her bed because it's his bed really, but it's now her bed and he has to sleep there. 00:18:35.861 --> 00:18:44.755 And of course, there's the camera which we'd heard about before, how she films him and then gives him critiques on his performance. 00:18:44.755 --> 00:18:46.342 She's awful. 00:18:46.342 --> 00:19:04.498 But she's angry at Michael in this episode and I kind of understand why she's angry with him, because I can't remember if it was a previous episode or a previous couple of episodes she's suing Dunder Mifflin for being sacked and Michael sticks up for Dunder Mifflin for being sacked and michael sticks up for dunder mifflin, not her. 00:19:04.498 --> 00:19:19.843 Oh yeah, so this is clearly why she's angry at this stage, right, even though it's a dysfunctional relationship and they're not good together so there's kind of a reason prior to this episode why she's really angry with him. 00:19:20.324 --> 00:19:22.028 this helps us to see both sides. 00:19:22.028 --> 00:19:29.931 Yes, and on top of that he's insisting that Jim and Pam go over there and he's telling her that she's an ex-girlfriend. 00:19:29.931 --> 00:19:36.911 I'm not excusing her behaviour in the slightest, but there is a reason why there's a bit of friction between them. 00:19:36.911 --> 00:19:40.128 Yeah, it helps to build the drama, doesn't it? 00:19:40.128 --> 00:19:51.928 Then this volatile relationship, and for viewers, then it's good to see that you, that it's not just one side no there are two volatile people in a toxic relationship yeah, although 00:19:52.008 --> 00:19:56.124 she's obviously more volatile than michael in this episode. 00:19:56.124 --> 00:19:57.768 It's just toxic. 00:19:57.768 --> 00:19:59.791 Yeah, and they shouldn't be together. 00:19:59.791 --> 00:20:03.068 Oh, they shouldn't be together and I hope that they're not together after. 00:20:03.068 --> 00:20:06.509 They're never together again after this episode Spoilers. 00:20:06.509 --> 00:20:10.230 But she did do the worst thing she could do to him. 00:20:10.230 --> 00:20:12.686 Not that worst thing she could do to him. 00:20:12.900 --> 00:20:23.690 Let's talk about the TV on the wall, the plasma TV, which is about 14, 15 inches Very tiny, it's tiny, but he's really proud of it because you can move it off the wall. 00:20:23.690 --> 00:20:27.054 He introduced three things that he was proud of. 00:20:27.054 --> 00:20:31.885 So the pine candle holder, the Dundies yeah, and the plasma TV. 00:20:31.885 --> 00:20:34.226 And why is he proud of them? 00:20:34.226 --> 00:20:36.407 Why is he proud of the Dundies or the plasma TV? 00:20:36.407 --> 00:20:43.330 Why is he proud of those three things he made the pine holder, which just looks like an old carton. 00:20:43.330 --> 00:20:44.806 It's just awful. 00:20:44.806 --> 00:20:49.387 Yep, obviously he earned those Dundies, dundies, whatever they were. 00:20:49.387 --> 00:20:52.148 Are they Dunder Mifflin's award? 00:20:52.148 --> 00:20:58.452 No, now the Dundies are his awards, which he gives out to the staff. 00:20:58.452 --> 00:21:02.305 Every year he posts a Dundies which he gives out to the staff. 00:21:02.305 --> 00:21:04.587 That would be how he posts a Dundee. 00:21:04.587 --> 00:21:11.698 So on the eighth Dundee's Awards, he awarded Phyllis the busiest beaver award. 00:21:11.698 --> 00:21:19.230 Busiest beaver, but he misspelt busiest to bushiest, ryan got the hottest in the office. 00:21:19.230 --> 00:21:23.701 So you know, did PJ know that? 00:21:23.701 --> 00:21:40.292 Like that the thing is about the writer's room in the office was they'd write together, they would break storylines together and then they'd be allocated an episode, but that didn't mean that the end episode was one they'd written completely. 00:21:40.292 --> 00:21:50.444 What would happen is they'd go away and write it and they'd come back to the writer's room and then it would be added to and bits taken away and if a funnier joke could be come up with, it would be put in. 00:21:50.444 --> 00:21:51.347 Things like that. 00:21:51.347 --> 00:21:57.367 So it was much more group effort than somebody going away and writing it and then that would be the episode. 00:21:57.740 --> 00:22:03.163 In the UK, for example, if somebody's written the episode, chances are they've written that episode. 00:22:03.163 --> 00:22:05.392 In the UK, for example, if somebody's written the episode, chances are they've written that episode. 00:22:05.392 --> 00:22:06.696 Usually there's one person who writes a whole series. 00:22:06.696 --> 00:22:07.077 The writer's room. 00:22:07.077 --> 00:22:12.912 In America in a sitcom like this, maybe 22 episodes a year the writers are there the whole time. 00:22:12.912 --> 00:22:15.345 They're on set making

sure the jokes work. 00:22:15.345 --> 00:22:17.249 They're behind the scenes. 00:22:17.249 --> 00:22:25.868 One or two might be away from the writer's room writing an episode, but it goes back to the writer's room, it goes back to Greg Daniels and they write again. 00:22:25.868 --> 00:22:27.666 That's how they ensure quality. 00:22:27.666 --> 00:22:40.825 In Tina Fey's book, david Cameron wrote to her, asked to meet her because he wanted to know how to make British sitcoms as good as American, which would argue that some are, some aren't. 00:22:40.825 --> 00:22:44.770 And Tina Fey said no, we want to write something like you six episodes. 00:22:44.891 --> 00:22:56.190 We don't want to do 22 episodes and it's changed now, because we've had COVID and because we've had a writer's strike and then the actor's strike 22 episodes a season is not happening at the moment. 00:22:56.190 --> 00:22:59.490 No, and it does seem quite excessive, doesn't it? 00:22:59.490 --> 00:23:11.487 That is probably what nine months work it is, but then, at the same time, you're employing someone for nine months, true, and then, and of course, they weren't getting a fair wage. 00:23:11.487 --> 00:23:17.211 Well, things like the Office on a network, they kind of were. 00:23:17.211 --> 00:23:20.807 I can't say for certain, I wasn't there, I don't know how much they earned, but the problem is now with the streamers. 00:23:20.807 --> 00:23:21.268 They're doing up to ten episodes, kind of were. 00:23:21.268 --> 00:23:21.428 I can't say for a certain. 00:23:21.428 --> 00:23:23.490 I wasn't there, I don't know how much they earned, but the problem is now with the streamers. 00:23:23.490 --> 00:23:27.762 They're doing up to 10 episodes and then they're not getting any residuals. 00:23:27.762 --> 00:23:29.288 You know the royalties. 00:23:29.288 --> 00:23:35.325 What's happening there is they're losing on royalties and they're only working for three months. 00:23:35.685 --> 00:23:38.972 Yeah, it makes it so much tougher that it's not fair. 00:23:38.972 --> 00:23:39.882 It's not fair. 00:23:39.882 --> 00:23:43.832 So every time something's streamed, they should have money for it, but they're not. 00:23:43.832 --> 00:23:50.106 You can celebrate something being downloaded a million times, but the writer's been paid already. 00:23:50.106 --> 00:24:02.487 Yeah, same with the actors, and that was what the parts of the strikes were for was the fact that streamers are taking advantage of the fact that there's less episodes and not paying the writers and the actors accordingly. 00:24:02.487 --> 00:24:05.185 Yeah, it's unfair. 00:24:05.185 --> 00:24:10.392 It's a sticky area, because who wouldn't want to write for a streamer? 00:24:10.392 --> 00:24:12.366 I'd love to write for a streamer. 00:24:12.366 --> 00:24:15.680 Yeah, exactly because that's how you get your work out there. 00:24:16.262 --> 00:24:16.885 Yeah exactly. 00:24:17.000 --> 00:24:19.709 How else do you get your work to a mass audience? 00:24:19.709 --> 00:24:21.926 It's not podcasting, I can tell you. 00:24:21.926 --> 00:24:25.286 Can I ask another question? 00:24:25.286 --> 00:24:25.868 Of course you can. 00:24:25.868 --> 00:24:29.009 Why was David Cameron asking Tina Fey? 00:24:29.009 --> 00:24:30.125 Oh, I don't know. 00:24:30.125 --> 00:24:33.866 We probably just wanted to meet Tina Fey, because what's he got to do with comedy? 00:24:33.866 --> 00:24:37.645 Well, obviously, what he said is laughable, but it's not meant to be. 00:24:37.645 --> 00:24:38.941 This is what she said. 00:24:38.941 --> 00:24:39.481 It's in her book Boss. 00:24:39.481 --> 00:24:40.222 That it's not meant to be. 00:24:40.222 --> 00:24:40.683 This is what she said. 00:24:40.683 --> 00:24:45.750 It's in her book Bossy Pants, I think the name of her autobiography is so Michael, yeah. 00:24:45.750 --> 00:24:48.153 So he's proud of those three things. 00:24:48.153 --> 00:24:49.135 He's proud of those. 00:24:50.640 --> 00:24:58.406 Yeah, let's go back to the episode, because they are the only three things that belong to him In the whole house, and it's his house, in the room, yeah. 00:24:58.987 --> 00:25:03.411 Everything else is all her erratic face Candles everywhere. 00:25:03.411 --> 00:25:05.413 Let's skip ahead on the episode. 00:25:05.413 --> 00:25:07.474 Andy and Angela have turned up. 00:25:07.474 --> 00:25:08.996 They're not impressed either. 00:25:08.996 --> 00:25:10.457 They don't want to be there. 00:25:10.457 --> 00:25:15.240 In Michael's mind, he and Jan are the love story and Jim and Pam are the side characters. 00:25:15.240 --> 00:25:23.211 But having Andy there, yeah, means that Michael can try and pitch a business proposition to Jim. 00:25:23.211 --> 00:25:31.751 No way To sell Jan's candles, which seems to be the whole motive of holding the dinner party. 00:25:31.751 --> 00:25:36.789 Yes, and because Andy's a bit of a creep, he wants to buy in. 00:25:36.789 --> 00:25:38.483 Of course he wants to buy it away. 00:25:38.483 --> 00:25:39.365 Yeah, but he had money. 00:25:39.365 --> 00:25:41.010 He came from money, does he? 00:25:41.010 --> 00:25:41.803 I don't? 00:25:41.803 --> 00:25:43.945 Yes, right, he comes from a wealthy family. 00:25:43.945 --> 00:25:46.393 Andy going oh, I'll invest. 00:25:46.393 --> 00:25:50.002 It's like me giving you a five and saying go on then knock yourself out. 00:25:50.163 --> 00:25:52.429 I really didn't realize that he was rich. 00:25:52.429 --> 00:25:55.300 The next bit was so funny. 00:25:55.300 --> 00:26:12.131 Michael and jan argue, yeah, and so she gets up to put on some music and we have the wonder of that one night by Hunter Hunter, who was Ex-assistant, ex-assistant in corporate, in Dunder, mifflin, yep. 00:26:12.131 --> 00:26:15.730 All I can say is that bloody song is an earworm. 00:26:15.730 --> 00:26:18.868 It was in my head for days. 00:26:18.868 --> 00:26:29.413 This is clearly about Jan, you took me by the hand, made me a man so raw,

so right, all night, all right, oh, yeah, it's horrible. 00:26:29.413 --> 00:26:36.611 And she dances off, beat to it and that dance, and she tries to get Jim to dance and he just looks Rabbit in headlights. 00:26:36.611 --> 00:26:41.414 So funny, but you could see she was desperately trying not to laugh. 00:26:41.414 --> 00:26:47.490 Yeah, the music was written by todd fancy of the new pornographers, and he also sang it. 00:26:47.490 --> 00:26:49.053 And you know what? 00:26:49.053 --> 00:26:54.931 It was written by eisenberg and stupnitsky, but they wrote extra verses. 00:26:54.931 --> 00:26:58.103 Yeah, that they didn't use because they were so into this. 00:26:58.103 --> 00:27:03.972 The best bit, though, was later, when Jim reveals that he stole the seat the end. 00:27:05.240 --> 00:27:06.223 It was for the best. 00:27:06.746 --> 00:27:11.608 Yeah, at some stage then Dwight had shown up with the babysitter. 00:27:11.608 --> 00:27:12.932 Yeah, his babysitter. 00:27:12.932 --> 00:27:16.409 Oh, I did feel sorry for Dwight because he was crying. 00:27:16.409 --> 00:27:20.906 Yeah, because, because he wasn't invited, because he wasn't part of a couple. 00:27:20.906 --> 00:27:24.188 Horrendousous, absolutely horrendous. 00:27:24.188 --> 00:27:26.503 Yeah, that was the excuse Given. 00:27:26.503 --> 00:27:33.335 He wasn't part of a couple and twice minted he has a whole farm, he has a beet farm. 00:27:33.335 --> 00:27:42.913 At a certain stage he buys the building because he loves being a salesman, he loves Dunder Mifflin and all he wants to be is manager there. 00:27:42.913 --> 00:27:45.053 But first of all he just wants to work for Michael. 00:27:45.724 --> 00:27:51.193 So is the character of Dwight more of a combination of Gareth and David Brent? 00:27:51.193 --> 00:27:57.688 No, I think Dwight is what Gareth should have been, not should have been. 00:27:57.688 --> 00:27:59.114 In the terms of the programme. 00:27:59.114 --> 00:28:01.433 I think he was written differently. 00:28:01.433 --> 00:28:08.256 In the original office, the British office, they wrote Gareth a little bit more like Dwight. 00:28:08.256 --> 00:28:10.973 They imagined someone bigger taking the role. 00:28:10.973 --> 00:28:17.007 And then Mackenzie Crook came in and played him that way, and Ricky Gervais and steven mitchell. 00:28:17.007 --> 00:28:20.115 They were like, well, no, we'll have him instead and he can play it this way. 00:28:20.115 --> 00:28:28.084 When rain wilson came in, he brought his own vision of dwight as well, so it was kind of amended for him also. 00:28:28.084 --> 00:28:36.076 Yeah, so when different actors come in, they bring different things to the role and the writers go oh, that works, we're emphasized, we'll work with that more. 00:28:36.076 --> 00:28:41.958 Which is one of the reasons I think that over here, even in America now, they've got it wrong. 00:28:42.525 --> 00:28:46.256 You cannot let the program run for six episodes and think that's it. 00:28:46.256 --> 00:28:53.798 The American office was threatened with cancellation after six episodes because it had no traction, it didn't have the viewers. 00:28:53.798 --> 00:29:03.070 It was just lucky that somebody in the network liked it enough to take it on to the next series and they were only offered 12 episodes, I think. 00:29:03.070 --> 00:29:08.736 Then 10 or 12 episodes and the background characters I call them background characters. 00:29:08.736 --> 00:29:13.545 They became the main characters all the way through then, people like Angela and Oscar and Kevin. 00:29:13.545 --> 00:29:17.886 They weren't series regulars until way into the second series. 00:29:17.886 --> 00:29:23.518 Right, I'll go back to my original point is these things needs time to develop. 00:29:23.518 --> 00:29:28.836 So there's no way you should be taking a comedy on six episodes and then cancelling it. 00:29:28.836 --> 00:29:31.327 No, that's, it's really not fair. 00:29:31.327 --> 00:29:32.009 It's not. 00:29:32.009 --> 00:29:34.334 You've got to wait for that word of mouth. 00:29:34.334 --> 00:29:40.152 People need to get to know the characters and see what actually will happen. 00:29:40.152 --> 00:29:45.428 Yeah, six episodes is not it's just not long enough for any kind of development. 00:29:45.508 --> 00:30:13.410 Yeah, and that's why I think, especially over here actually, that all programs should be given two series comedy, I should say all comedy, 12 episodes yeah, not necessarily 12 at the same time, not, but six episodes and then in further six, because changes can be made, things can be changed and it gives people time to hear about it, to gain that traction that you talked about, that people watch it. 00:30:13.410 --> 00:30:14.853 Back to the episode. 00:30:14.853 --> 00:30:29.557 Michael thinks that jan is poisoning him at the table so they finally get to eat, yeah, and he puts that element of doubt into pam's mind, that michael thinks that jan is trying to poison him. 00:30:29.557 --> 00:30:44.355 Pam straight away realizes that if that's true, she's also in trouble because jan has accused pam of looking at michael in a certain way you can tell straight away it's all over her face. 00:30:44.355 --> 00:30:46.788 Oh no, I cannot eat this meal. 00:30:46.928 --> 00:30:49.354 But I'm starving I'm starving but I'm not gonna eat it. 00:30:49.354 --> 00:30:51.605 She gets a burger in the end, though, didn't? 00:30:51.605 --> 00:30:52.727 She gets her burger. 00:30:52.727 --> 00:30:55.270 And do you remember why there's no patio door? 00:30:55.270 --> 00:31:04.886 Pam is cold, yeah, and Michael gives her a jacket which annoys Jan because it's Pam and she said oh sorry, it's cold in here. 00:31:04.886 --> 00:31:13.775 The glass in the sliding doors has shattered because Michael thought he heard the ice cream truck and then he said it was because it was so clean. 00:31:14.505 --> 00:31:29.394 Michael gets really fed up, gets his neon sign has actually got the

name of a red light district abroad on it and she tries this passive-aggressive let's take it down and talk about it later, sort of thing. 00:31:29.394 --> 00:31:30.938 He refuses. 00:31:30.938 --> 00:31:40.007 She starts getting really cross, gets up and throws one of his dundies at the plasma TV and it breaks. 00:31:40.007 --> 00:31:45.076 So she's destroyed a dundie and his beloved plasma TV. 00:31:45.076 --> 00:31:46.478 So they all leave. 00:31:46.478 --> 00:31:47.140 They have to go. 00:31:47.140 --> 00:31:55.128 Police arrive, neighbours complained, and then Michael needed someone to go home with and Dwight offers straight away and he still looks to Pam. 00:31:55.128 --> 00:31:58.115 Jim says oh no, we can't remember the fire. 00:31:58.115 --> 00:32:00.278 And he corrects no, no, the flood, the flood. 00:32:02.086 --> 00:32:04.453 But then you feel sorry for the babysitter. 00:32:04.453 --> 00:32:08.933 Yeah, he left her on a bus, but he made her carry the chairs. 00:32:08.933 --> 00:32:12.335 He arrived with chairs and glasses and food. 00:32:12.335 --> 00:32:19.733 Yeah, because they got no excuse not to let them stay there, but they were the lucky ones because they got to eat. 00:32:19.733 --> 00:32:30.270 I'll talk more about the episode in Geek Corner, but let's have a quiz. 00:32:30.270 --> 00:32:32.836 Okay, are you going to start? 00:32:32.836 --> 00:32:39.395 What excuse does Michael give to Dwight for not inviting him to the dinner party? 00:32:39.395 --> 00:32:41.440 It's couples only, okay. 00:32:42.105 --> 00:32:48.075 What does Jan say she'll do with the wine that Jim and Pam presents to her on their arrival? 00:32:48.075 --> 00:32:50.078 Use it for cooking. 00:32:50.078 --> 00:32:54.915 Oh, what colour is the wall on Michael's bedroom? 00:32:54.915 --> 00:32:58.247 Oh, my gosh, this is the thing I told you. 00:32:58.247 --> 00:33:01.570 I'm not good at this stuff, but I'd already written this. 00:33:01.570 --> 00:33:07.448 Oh, my gosh, brown, it's eggshell white on Jams. 00:33:07.448 --> 00:33:14.759 Insistent because white the original white is too much like an asylum, of course. 00:33:14.759 --> 00:33:19.936 But Michael adds eggshell white and white are the same. 00:33:19.936 --> 00:33:20.438 They are. 00:33:20.438 --> 00:33:23.594 What is the name of Jan's candle company? 00:33:23.594 --> 00:33:26.170 Serenity by Jan. 00:33:26.170 --> 00:33:27.374 Well done. 00:33:27.374 --> 00:33:31.234 How many photographs of Michael are there in his condo? 00:33:31.234 --> 00:33:35.075 Oh, my gosh, none One. 00:33:35.075 --> 00:33:40.606 Oh, you were right first time. 00:33:40.606 --> 00:33:41.368 There are's all about jan. 00:33:41.368 --> 00:33:42.432 Good, I'm gonna give you this one. 00:33:42.432 --> 00:33:46.186 I thought it was a bit mean, but it's not because you've watched the whole of season three. 00:33:46.186 --> 00:33:48.271 So what is andy's nickname for jim? 00:33:48.271 --> 00:33:50.798 Why do I think it's something like

quackers? 00:33:51.205 --> 00:33:54.874 no quackers no, now, I got that from Once. 00:33:54.874 --> 00:33:55.576 I say it, I know it. 00:33:55.576 --> 00:34:01.135 Tuna oh, in my notes I've got tuna and a question mark. 00:34:01.135 --> 00:34:03.173 And Andy, that's what it means. 00:34:03.173 --> 00:34:13.672 Tuna is because when Jim started in the other office when he met Andy, he had tuna sandwich for lunch, so after that he'd just become Tuna. 00:34:13.672 --> 00:34:16.793 It's a really boring nickname, right? 00:34:16.793 --> 00:34:18.210 Well, who's Quackers? 00:34:18.210 --> 00:34:21.474 I've never heard of Quackers on the Office, sorry. 00:34:21.474 --> 00:34:24.472 Something else I've seen. 00:34:24.472 --> 00:34:28.512 Okay, what musical instrument does Michael keep in his garage? 00:34:28.512 --> 00:34:29.775 Oh, guitar. 00:34:29.775 --> 00:34:34.630 He's got some bongo drums. 00:34:34.630 --> 00:34:35.492 Oh, of course. 00:34:37.465 --> 00:34:40.155 What time is dinner set to be served at? 00:34:40.155 --> 00:34:42.070 Oh, so they arrived at. 00:34:42.070 --> 00:34:45.873 So it's like 11 o'clock, or is it 11 o'clock or midnight? 00:34:45.873 --> 00:34:48.974 It's 10pm, so there's three hours to cook. 00:34:48.974 --> 00:34:51.934 And Pam asks if they started cooking at 4pm. 00:34:51.934 --> 00:34:54.713 So it means that was at 7 o'clock. 00:34:54.713 --> 00:34:58.608 Okay, well, you'll know this, because we've actually talked about this one. 00:34:58.608 --> 00:34:59.831 Which play? 00:34:59.831 --> 00:35:04.407 Does this episode have a similarity to who's afraid of virginia wolf? 00:35:04.407 --> 00:35:07.054 And this one we've already talked about as well. 00:35:07.054 --> 00:35:09.286 How did michael smash the glass door? 00:35:09.286 --> 00:35:11.672 Oh, I've got that as a question as well. 00:35:12.273 --> 00:35:20.393 Yeah, we already know that you're running for the ice cream, okay and what was angela talking about when she said what am I supposed to do with this? 00:35:20.393 --> 00:35:21.916 Oh, the rose. 00:35:21.916 --> 00:35:27.826 He plucks out a single rose from the bench of flowers and he gives jan and she's like, well, I'm supposed to do this. 00:35:27.826 --> 00:35:29.949 Which I thought again, fair enough. 00:35:29.949 --> 00:35:32.054 And that was the quiz. 00:35:32.054 --> 00:35:39.472 This, this one, we're going to call Geek Corner, because I don't know what else to call this. 00:35:39.472 --> 00:35:42.213 Do you want to sing a little titty to get us into it? 00:35:42.213 --> 00:35:47.958 Geek Corner, geek Corner, geek, geek, geek, geek Corner. 00:35:47.958 --> 00:35:49.998 Oh my God, you've got to do that every week now. 00:35:49.998 --> 00:35:50.420 Well done. 00:35:50.460 --> 00:35:52.847 No, no, no no, yeah, yeah, no, no, I'm not doing it every week. 00:35:52.847 --> 00:35:54.992 Commit that to memory, that's what we're doing. 00:35:55.012 --> 00:35:56.014 It's not going to be there. 00:35:56.014 --> 00:35:57.697 Okay, what's your fact? 00:35:57.697 --> 00:35:58.759 I've got some facts. 00:35:58.759 --> 00:36:00.567 Amanda's got her fact. 00:36:00.567 --> 00:36:16.896 My fact is that this episode was the last episode written before the 2007-8 Writers Guild of America strike, although the striking didn't affect filming of the already written episodes. 00:36:16.896 --> 00:36:24.737 The cast refused to cross picket lines and this episode was not filmed until after the strike was over four months later. 00:36:24.737 --> 00:36:26.610 Some more geeky facts. 00:36:27.824 --> 00:36:29.891 It was down to two people. 00:36:29.891 --> 00:36:38.516 For the part of Michael Scott, it was obviously Steve Carell was one of them, and the other one was Bob Odenkirk from Breaking Bad, better Call Saul. 00:36:38.516 --> 00:36:42.693 Better Call Saul, which I've seen recently and absolutely loved. 00:36:42.693 --> 00:36:47.603 He's brilliant in it, which, again, I would argue that very funny. 00:36:47.603 --> 00:36:49.813 People can do straight drama so well. 00:36:49.813 --> 00:36:56.329 But he does actually appear, bob Odenkirk, in an episode. 00:36:56.329 --> 00:37:03.655 I believe it's in season nine and Pam goes to an interview at another office and he is running the office. 00:37:03.655 --> 00:37:06.110 Oh, and it's played like Michael Scott. 00:37:06.110 --> 00:37:06.748 100%. 00:37:06.748 --> 00:37:07.692 He could have played the part. 00:37:07.692 --> 00:37:12.425 Well, maybe he'll be the office manager in the new spin-off. 00:37:12.425 --> 00:37:14.072 Well, that would be worth watching. 00:37:15.005 --> 00:37:19.849 Ben Silverman was the guy who brought the office in america. 00:37:19.849 --> 00:37:22.054 He saw it on rich's tv and loved it. 00:37:22.054 --> 00:37:25.867 He just phoned up ricky gervais and said can I do this? 00:37:25.867 --> 00:37:27.690 Oh, and ricky gervais? 00:37:27.690 --> 00:37:28.893 And yeah, of course you can. 00:37:28.893 --> 00:37:35.956 But obviously ricky gervais and stephen merchant don't just own the rights to it, it's a's a BBC comedy, so it's a bit more long winded than that. 00:37:35.956 --> 00:37:42.311 Silverman brought it to NBC but they wanted to do studio based comedy at the time. 00:37:42.311 --> 00:37:47.226 The timing of it was bad because it was announced at the same time. 00:37:47.347 --> 00:37:48.833 Coupling do you remember the BBC? 00:37:48.833 --> 00:37:50.764 I think it was BBC 2 comedy. 00:37:50.764 --> 00:37:54.492 Stephen Moffat, coupling came out on NBC. 00:37:54.492 --> 00:37:55.789 They did an American remake. 00:37:55.789 --> 00:38:00.572 They didn't show the british version over there and they pulled it after six episodes. 00:38:00.572 --> 00:38:02.016 They said it was so bad. 00:38:02.016 --> 00:38:08.639 I think what they did was a straight copy of it instead of adapting it for america. 00:38:08.639 --> 00:38:10.726 So the timing was really bad. 00:38:10.766 --> 00:38:19.474 I remember reading

that when the corporate people said they couldn't show the British one because they were all ugly and you just you are out of your mind. 00:38:19.474 --> 00:38:21.605 Wasn't Jack Davenport in it? 00:38:21.605 --> 00:38:25.724 Jack Davenport was in the who gets work in America all the time. 00:38:25.724 --> 00:38:30.077 The cast of Cuddling was so attractive it was ridiculous. 00:38:30.077 --> 00:38:39.615 So they were a bit apprehensive of doing another British knockoff, bj Novak, who we've seen we have in Edinburgh. 00:38:39.615 --> 00:38:49.454 Bj Novak was brought in because Daniels was interested in writer performance but he was brought in as an activist so he had the part of Ryan before he was even brought in as a writer. 00:38:49.454 --> 00:38:54.344 Mindy Kaling and Paul Lieberstein was also taken on as writer performers. 00:38:54.344 --> 00:39:01.213 You probably know BJ Novak dated Mindy Kaling when they were filming, so they were also on and off in the series. 00:39:01.213 --> 00:39:03.130 They're on and off in real life. 00:39:03.130 --> 00:39:08.597 They called each other their lobsters after the Friends lobsters episode. 00:39:08.817 --> 00:39:09.077 Yeah. 00:39:10.106 --> 00:39:11.376 The one with the prom video. 00:39:11.376 --> 00:39:12.324 They're still friends. 00:39:12.324 --> 00:39:21.755 Bj Novak and John Krasinski went to high school in Boston together and Krasinski was in a play that BJ Novak wrote in his senior year. 00:39:21.755 --> 00:39:30.894 Wow, when they did the talking heads, there was always windows behind Jim and Pam, because they were always the ones that were going to get out of the office. 00:39:30.894 --> 00:39:38.606 Ricky Gervais was asked to play Michael Scott and he said no, I've already done it, I don't want to do it. 00:39:38.606 --> 00:39:42.815 I'll give you the last one, because I just keep talking and talking. 00:39:43.637 --> 00:40:03.527 The reason Greg Daniels got the role was Ben Silverman and Ricky Gervais and Stephen Merchant met with Greg Daniels and he wrote things like King of the Hills and the Simpsons and he understood the heart of the relationship was going to be about Pam and Jim, or what was going to become Pam and Jim. 00:40:03.527 --> 00:40:22.478 But the reason they really liked him is because he wrote an episode of the Simpsons called Homer Badman, which is where Homer is accused by the kid's babysitter of being a pervert, but all he was doing was retrieving a gummy bear from the seat of her trousers. 00:40:22.478 --> 00:40:35.351 Then Homer is put into a media nightmare, including things like he was sleeping in an oxygen tent, and that episode ends with one of my personal favourite exchanges of the whole time. 00:40:35.351 --> 00:40:37.693 And that episode ends with one of my personal favourite exchanges of the whole time. 00:40:37.693 --> 00:40:42.179 Marge said Homer, hasn't this experience taught you that you can't believe anything you hear? 00:40:42.179 --> 00:40:58.990 And Homer says Marge, my friend, I haven't learned a thing Stephen Merchant and Ricky Gervais loved this episode, and that was that we're finally at the end of that. 00:40:58.990 --> 00:41:01.873 So thank you so much for joining us. 00:41:02.755 --> 00:41:08.460 We got a lot of this from the internet, and did you know the internet can lie? 00:41:08.460 --> 00:41:09.706 It can. 00:41:09.706 --> 00:41:19.054 But I've also used the Office, the Untold Story of the Greatest Sitcom of the 2000s by Andy Green, and also Jenna Fisher's book the Actor's Life. 00:41:19.054 --> 00:41:39.349 If you want to get in touch, instagram at tvcomedypod, or you can visit the website thattvcomedypodcastcom, or you can email us at thattvcomedypodcast at outlookcom, and we'll see you next time. 00:41:39.349 --> 00:41:41.195 Goodbye, bye. 00:41:43.885 --> 00:41:48.757 That TV Comedy Podcast was presented by Amanda Davies and Jacquie J Sarah. 00:41:48.757 --> 00:41:53.954 It is a deliciously bright podcast produced by Jacquie J sarah. 00:41:53.954 --> 00:42:02.978 For extended episodes and exclusive content, become a subscriber at patreoncom/ that tv comedy podcast.