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Welcome back to another Super Awesome Mix.
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My name is Matt Sithom.
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Remember, as we go through our mix today, you can create your own at my.superawesomix.com, start for free, and share it on any streaming platform.
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Now, my guest today is Eduardo Savi, a leadership coach with over 250 clients.
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His core idea is that most of the friction professionals face today comes from the competing stories in their head.
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The one that got them here, and the one their next chapter is asking for.
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What makes Eduardo different is how he gets there.
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He reads pop culture, succession, Olympic athletes, Taylor Swift albums as live case studies for the same identity questions his clients are working through.
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Please welcome Eduardo to Super Awesome Mix.
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Thank you.
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Thank you, Matt.
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I'm very excited to be on Super Awesome Mix.
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I'm so glad you reached out to me.
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We connected over PodMatch, and um you kind of came up with the uh theme of this mix, which I thought was really cool because this has kind of been the idea of quiet quitting has been in the news a little bit this year, but you kind of went in a different direction.
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So talk about your theme today.
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My theme is loud quitting, because uh there is no joy in quiet quitting.
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But as a leadership coach, I've helped dozens of individuals through career transitions, figuring out what serves them in the moment and what serves them in their next chapter.
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And uh quitting is something worth celebrating because it's a big decision, and big decisions must be celebrated, especially when they come out of choice rather than out of fear.
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So here I am with my playlist, Loud Quitting.
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So the songs that I picked are not about resentment for the job or the corporate world, they are about running towards something better instead of running away.
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How does that sound?
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I love it, I love it.
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Now, yourself, I mean, you had to have made this kind of decision yourself at one point to become this leadership coach that you are now.
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So did you have this moment yourself of sort of loud quitting and saying, I'm gonna go and chase my dream?
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I certainly did, and actually this playlist helped me through it, and I'm gonna confess one of the songs in there is a song that I used in my goodbye email when I left my corporate job to start my own coaching practice.
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Okay, don't tell us yet.
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We're gonna go through the mix and we'll go song by song, but I'm excited to hear which one of these songs is it.
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Maybe I can guess.
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Yes, yes, yes.
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Okay, well, let's get into it.
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Okay, track one, and this is very appropriate for the theme, it is Changes by David Bowie.
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Alright, yes.
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So, uh David Bowie, he wrote this song in 71 after returning from uh his uh first US tour, um, having failed to become the star that he wanted to be in the US, and it was this was pre-Ziggy's tardist.
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And I know a lot about David Bowie.
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I'm in the top 1% of David Bowie's Spotify fans, so this is my jam.
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Um and Ziggy is arguably the most radical reinvention, definitely of his career, but in music history in general, and and I love that this song changes as basically his journal entry before that leap.
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And um it's funny because he describes this song as a parody, but really what song of his hasn't he described as a parody of some song at some point?
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Um and um I love the ch-ch-ch starter because uh it's both about the hesitation and about the you know catching someone mid-transformation, where the old self is still there and the new one hasn't fully come to focus yet.
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And I also love that he played the saxophone, because uh, yeah, if you're going through change, why not have fun with uh with everything that you can do with it?
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I love this as the opening track to this mix because not only does it work kind of thematically just as a song, but also who better to talk about like doing your own thing and chasing your dreams than David Bowie, right?
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Because I mean that was a guy.
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I don't even know how you classify his music, right?
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Like, was it like rock, was it dance, was it, you know, like calypso?
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I don't know.
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Like he did so many different things in his career and uh just went in so many different directions.
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And of course, like you referenced the Ziggy Star Stardust reinvention where he absolutely did his own thing there, right?
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So um, yeah, just a great way to kick it off.
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And and you're right, I love what you said about the cha-cha-cha, that it's that that is that hesitation.
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Like sometimes we're not a hundred percent sure of this new direction we might want to go in.
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So that is uh that is awesome.
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So great choice to start us off.
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Yeah, and turn and face the change.
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What uh sorry, turn and face the strange.
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What's the strange?
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The strange, is it the new job or is it yourself?
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And I like to believe that it's uh yourself.
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Yes, I like that.
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I like that.
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Um all right, track two.
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This is one of my all-time favorites.
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This is human by the killers.
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Fantastic, yes.
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So this is literally the the song that I hear in my head when I think about people leaving their job and quitting.
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It's uh a true celebration of breaking out of a corporate, and uh and I love that the killers manage to do this with uh gratitude, even the lyrics.
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Pay my respects to Grace and Virtue, send my condolences to good, uh, give my regards to Solim Romance, and soul on to devotion.
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You taught me everything I know, wave goodbye, wish me well.
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I get goosebumps just uh just thinking about it.
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And uh I really think of this as the kindest of goodbyes, set to stadium sizes.
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It really works.
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And uh the question, are we human or are we a dancer is uh is really about being part of our corporate choreography and choosing to maybe take a step back.
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And uh, you know, sometimes we we feel the need to renegotiate our identity, especially as work becomes our identity.
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Um Brandon Flowers is asking, are you a person or the role that you're performing?
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And I think he was inspired to write the song after he he read this line by Hunter Thompson.
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We're raising a generation of dancers afraid to take one step out of line.
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That is that is awesome.
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Yeah, I love all of that and just kind of the difference between sort of what you do and and who you are.
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Um it's funny because uh I don't know if you watch the show Severance, right, on Apple TV and how it kind of explores that sort of, I'm this in that case, completely different person.
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I'm not even you know acknowledging the person I am outside of this place, right?
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Um and so it kind of just hits right at what you were just talking about there.
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And and certainly with the rise of of AI, I'm I'm sure you're coaching some people who are worried about that maybe taking their job, right?
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Absolutely.
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That there is this uh moment in history in which people are wondering what's gonna be my place in uh in in the workspace.
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And uh and it's fascinating to really read the lyrics of a song like human with this in mind, are we human?
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Now human uh has a totally different meaning with uh with AI lurking around.
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And some people might describe it using the word uh in track three here.
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It is landslide by Fleetwood Mac.
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Yes.
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Uh this is uh well, we're going back to the 70s.
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My my working theory is uh every human experience can be well explained with a Fleetwood Mac song.
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This is what I believe in.
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I like that.
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So Stevie Nicks wrote this song uh she was in Aspen in the 70s, looking at the Rocky Mountains, and um uh their album, uh the Buckingham Knicks album, uh recently had dropped.
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And uh what she tells is that basically her father had given her six months to decide whether to to do this music thing or go back to school, and so she was waitressing and cleaning houses, and she wrote Lens Light like while looking out the window and uh looking at the Rocky Mountains, and uh and in her words, Lens Light was the decision.
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This is a song about making a choice, and uh Lens Light sounds like catastrophe, but in this song it's just the moment when you realize that the mountain moves and and the ground underneath your feet is not as permanent as you thought it was.
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And it's okay.
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It's okay to be afraid, it's okay to accept that the seasons in life are changing, and um as much as you would want to, you cannot hold on to the old version of you, even if you don't know what the next version is gonna look like.
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Yeah, and that landslide is something sometimes you can't control it, right?
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Like you think about something like Jurassic Park, where the dinosaurs start to reproduce, and Jeff Goldblum's like life finds a way, right?
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And in some ways, I I could see Stevie Nicks.
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Like, was Stevie Nick's gonna do anything else in her life but be like this rock star, right?
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And it's kind of like that's the landslide, it's sort of out of your control, but maybe just kind of making the decision to go with it a little bit and and sort of accept it in some way.
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Um, I I completely agree with you on Fleetwood Max songs.
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I I wrote my note here was
like this is probably the ultimate like reflection song.
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Like if anybody's ever reflecting on anything in TV and movies, you start hearing landslide in the background.
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Um, but I think it I think it works in a lot of different situations.
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So that is uh that is great.
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And isn't it comforting to think that Stevie Nicks wasn't unsure was unsure of what to do with her life?
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Yeah, right.
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If she has doubts, then it's okay for everyone to have doubts.
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We always think that the person next to us has it all figured out.
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No, they don't.
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That's right.
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That's right.
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Even someone as talented as Stevie Nicks has some wasn't sure if that was the path.
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And even her dad was like, Yeah, just come on home.
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What are you doing?
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Yeah, yeah.
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The other thing that I like about this song is the finger style pattern on the guitar that gives, you know, this forward momentum sense of time moving forward.
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It's relentless but gentle at the same time.
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Just hits the spot.
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All right, now something a little bit more aggressive here.
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Track four, you've got Shake It Out by Florence and the Machine.
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Alright, yeah, this is a song of release.
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I I really like Florence, and uh I feel that all her songs are a roll shark test for human emotions, meaning that you can hear anything in it.
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Because, frankly speaking, the lyrics almost never make sense, at least from a literal sense, but they somehow always work.
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They can always, you know, hold up a dramatic scene in Grey's Anatomy or something.
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It just they just fit, you know.
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Yes, I agree.
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And and you're right, like there's so many songs that I think I've gone back, like that I just love by her, and then I'll go back and listen to the lyrics and I'll be like, well, does that really but it's not what you had in your head, but her voice and the sound of the music just sort of evokes this emotion that it doesn't even matter what the what the words are necessarily.
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But in this case, I think Shake It Out can can be you know apt for this type of you know loud quitting that we're talking about and just sort of moving forward.
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I mean, this is really a song about letting go of past regrets.
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She uh she has these very gruesome images in this song.
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I'm dragging this horse around tonight.
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I'm going to bury that horse in the ground.
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And I like the ritualistic uh image of it all.
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Rituals are important when leaving the job.
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If you think about writing your goodbye email, returning your laptop.
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And uh I like how she sings, I'm done with my graceless heart, and I'm gonna cut it out and then restart.
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And uh, quitting can be and often should be dramatic.
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So go girl, go Florence.
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It's always darker before the dawn, as she says.
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That is perfect.
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Um all right, track five.
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This is Good Riddens, Parentheses, Time of Your Life by Green Day.
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Yes.
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So this was a bitter, angry breakup song in theory, and uh it turned out to be a surprisingly sweet farewell song, and uh, it's really the anthem of the Bearsweet ending.
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And um I like placing this song in this playlist because when we quit a job, sometimes we we feel you know self-important.
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Oh, they will see without me how things will shake out.
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But it's good to remind ourselves, good riddance.
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We're not that important, you know.
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Uh I'm sure corporate America will be fine without you, without me, and they will survive.
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But hey, at least you've got a great song out of it.
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And uh, you know, it's also a very vulnerable song for a vulnerable moment, one that you would not expect from a punk rock band, and it works.
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Yeah, you're you're exactly right.
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We've talked about this one before uh on one of our mixes at some point, but just how the lyrics are misinterpreted, because you're right, it is a breakup song and it's supposed to be kind of bitter, but people have taken it to be this sort of, you know, anthem, like people at graduation time every year like sing this song, like, I hope you had the time of your life.
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It's this positive sort of goodbye message when it's like, well, it's not what he intended exactly, but but you're right.
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I like I like how you put that.
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Now, how often when you're talking to leaders, do you kind of have to overcome that notion that I don't know, like I feel like some people stay in the job that they're in because they feel bad leaving.
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That that, oh, what are they gonna do without me?
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Who's gonna send out the report on Friday?
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I always send out that report, right?
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Like, did do people have to overcome that story of, like you said, self-importance?
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Yes, it happens all the time.
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We always give ourselves excuses not to make the leap.
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Uh, what I normally do with my clients is a little bit of uh perspective taking.
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And some of the exercises that I love doing is think about your 17-year-old self.
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What would they tell you to do?
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Or your 80-year-old self, what will they remember about this time in your life?
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And you right now, what would you want to accomplish two, three, five years from today?
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If you actually start taking this longer-term perspective, then the idea of that report that you're attaching your identity to becomes so trivial that you might find the courage to take the leap.
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Uh yeah, that's that I love the perspective of the two ages because I think about how boring a 17-year-old would find that.
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And then the 80-year-old would just kind of minimize it with whatever other life has happened.
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And and you're right, those two perspectives in your head would would absolutely I'm thinking about that now, even just with recording this show.
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I'm like, what was my 17-year-old self saying?
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And what would my that is great.
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No, I like that.
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Yeah, sometimes we are so close to our problems that they look insurmountable.
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And uh, a little perspective goes a long way.
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Track six coming out here.
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This is Break My Soul by Beyoncé.
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Yes, this is the announcement, you know, and uh so the context for the song is essential.
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So let's go back to the year 2022.
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Uh, so this was the first single from Renaissance, and uh, it was the summer, it was the height of the great resignation with millions of Americans quitting their jobs.
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And uh this is really the song that nobody asked for, but everybody needed.
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And uh uh really the line, I just fell in love, I just quit my job, and now she's out dancing because it's time to celebrate.
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And um I love the line, You Won't Break My Soul.
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To me, it's a line that that she directs at LinkedIn that always tries to make us believe that it's not the right time to quit.
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No, LinkedIn,
you won't break my soul.
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That's so true.
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That is so true.
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Yeah, there's all those reports where it's like, well, good luck finding a job if you leave this one, or all these businesses fail when they start on their own and all these other things.
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But yeah, you're right.
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I mean, it it it evokes kind of what um we talked about with human and the killers.
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It's like you you become kind of what your job is, and in a sense, that breaks your soul, right?
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Like you kind of forget who you are, you get lost in it.
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And Beyoncé's there to remind you like you can't break my soul, right?
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Like I'm I'm still a human being, a unique being that doesn't necessarily need this job, or or vice versa.
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Like I can survive in some other way.
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And this is even more powerful, coming from one of the hardest workers in the entertainment industry, she's basically giving all of us permission to question our place in the workforce.
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She's basically a union leader.
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Uh, she embraced hustle culture, and she knows that even hustle culture is overdue for its own renaissance.
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I love it.
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I love it.
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Uh, track seven.
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This is Flashdance, What a Feeling by Irene Kara.
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So let's go back to the to the 80s.
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So this song gets your body moving uh before your mind can really catch up.
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And uh so the movie that this song scores is about, you know, a steel welder who auditions to become a professional dancer.
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It's basically all in there, all in the movie.
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She's uh doing physical labor that she didn't quite choose in a body that she knows is capable of something else, and uh she has to fight the system and her own belief system uh to get there.
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The song won an Oscar for for best song, and uh it is about the moment of commitment, and and she really wins the moment that she finally decides to be herself.
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And uh I also like, you know, it sounds very cheesy, but take your passion and make it happen is self-help before there was a war for it.
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Yeah, this this song and and the movie itself, right?
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Because you you mentioned hustle culture talking about Beyonce.
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I mean, but you know, in this movie, she's going from job to job, you know, she's she's a welder, right?
00:20:47.830 --> 00:20:50.070
Like, and then at night
she's a dancer.
00:20:50.310 --> 00:20:57.750
Like what a what an odd combination, especially for a female in the 80s, but but she's doing it to just kind of make this happen.
00:20:57.990 --> 00:20:59.830
And uh, no, you're exactly right.
00:20:59.990 --> 00:21:07.509
I mean, that this is uh this is the perfect song for that, and also kind of a uh an underrated movie for sort of inspiration, right?
00:21:07.670 --> 00:21:13.590
I don't think people think of this movie immediately, but it's almost like she's like a female Rocky in some way, right?
00:21:13.670 --> 00:21:15.750
With the way she's training and working hard.
00:21:16.070 --> 00:21:18.470
That is a good point, yes.
00:21:18.710 --> 00:21:27.350
And the other fun fact about this song is that Irene Kara had to fight for the writing credit and the publishing rights.
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So she was actually involved in the ears of legal battle with her record label over royalties.
00:21:33.509 --> 00:21:42.790
So the woman singing about, you know, breaking out and liberation was fighting for her own liberation, which is fascinating.
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All right, track eight.
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This is Feeling Good by Nina Simone.
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So this is really the song about the morning after.
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The morning after you quit your job.
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There's a new world.
00:21:56.070 --> 00:22:09.350
It's the perfect song to listen to on day one when you don't have an alarm or a place to go, and the birds are flying high, the sun in the sky, the breeze drifting on by.
00:22:09.830 --> 00:22:13.190
It's really the first coffee that you make at 9 a.m.
00:22:13.350 --> 00:22:15.509
on a Tuesday for no one but yourself.
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It's a new dawn, it's a new day, it's a new life, and I'm feeling good.
00:22:21.750 --> 00:22:26.630
This is such a classic song, and there's been, I don't know, a dozen different versions of it.
00:22:26.790 --> 00:22:27.990
Uh, this is a great one.
00:22:28.070 --> 00:22:29.190
She's got a great voice.
00:22:29.350 --> 00:22:31.670
I think uh so that that works really well.
00:22:31.750 --> 00:22:32.950
And I I love how you put that.
00:22:33.030 --> 00:22:34.070
It's the next day.
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Like, and now it's like, all right, you're waking up.
00:22:36.550 --> 00:22:37.910
Well, what what does it feel like?
00:22:37.990 --> 00:22:39.269
And it feels really good.
00:22:39.430 --> 00:22:44.070
So what What advice do you give people when it's like, all right, I've quit my job.
00:22:44.390 --> 00:22:46.310
The next day you're feeling good.
00:22:46.550 --> 00:22:54.950
Like, how long before you kind of shake that and not shake it, but just sort of snap back to now you gotta get going and chase your dream?
00:22:55.110 --> 00:22:58.230
Like, because there is a little bit of shift and there's work to be done.
00:22:58.550 --> 00:23:05.509
So,
so how long do you kind of advise people maybe to to celebrate before before they do kind of make that shift?
00:23:05.910 --> 00:23:10.950
I do think it's very important to take a beat, rest.
00:23:11.910 --> 00:23:18.870
Um you literally need to shed your your previous self before you can welcome the new one.
00:23:19.190 --> 00:23:23.750
So it's part of the hustle culture to never really stop.
00:23:24.150 --> 00:23:27.509
And some people quit on a Friday and start on a Monday.
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That's uh perfectly okay if you have to, but if you can the the space that you're giving yourself before jumping on to the next thing will actually replenish the energies that you need to fully commit to the next phase of your life.
00:23:45.430 --> 00:23:58.470
So travel if you can, and if not, just uh just take in the new dawn, the new day, the new life, at least for one day and why not one week.
00:23:59.910 --> 00:24:01.269
Alright, track nine.
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This is Dream On by Aerosmith.
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So I don't know if you knew that Steven Tyler wrote this song when he was 17, even before he uh wow was part of Aerosmith.
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And uh he had this beautiful sadness about whether he'd even make it.
00:24:21.670 --> 00:24:27.430
And uh I mean dream on, dream on, dream on is uh really bumper sticker material.
00:24:27.590 --> 00:24:39.269
But if you think that a 17-year-old, bro, every time I look in the mirror, all these lines on my face getting clearer, the past is gone, it's like, wait, how old are you?
00:24:41.269 --> 00:24:45.590
Yeah, that seems to be inspired by maybe a past life or something, right?
00:24:45.750 --> 00:24:51.590
Like if you believe in reincarnation, that that kid has to be an old soul to come up with that.
00:24:52.550 --> 00:24:58.230
But it's a powerful song because it's an accounting of what it costs to keep wanting something over a long time.
00:24:58.310 --> 00:25:11.590
And some people we get stuck on a job for longer than we should because it's not yet the right moment, it's not yet the right opportunity.
00:25:11.750 --> 00:25:13.910
And so we wait for the perfect moment.
00:25:14.150 --> 00:25:14.790
Guess what?
00:25:14.950 --> 00:25:18.950
There's no perfect moment, you just need to take it.
00:25:20.630 --> 00:25:23.750
Yeah, I mean, that I think that's kind of the hardest thing, right?
00:25:23.830 --> 00:25:26.470
Is so often people do look for that perfect spot.
00:25:26.630 --> 00:25:33.269
Like, how do you I mean, I don't know, I think about you know, Mel Robbins is famous for the you know, 5-4-3-2-1, right?
00:25:33.350 --> 00:25:34.950
And do it, you know, just go.
00:25:35.190 --> 00:25:43.269
So, I mean, what how do you get people sort of out of their own heads and get them to act and and take that leap?
00:25:44.470 --> 00:25:46.470
Yes, it depends on the person.
00:25:47.350 --> 00:25:52.230
I would always say, let's start with the minimal viable product.
00:25:52.310 --> 00:25:55.990
What's a small action that you can take towards this dream?
00:25:56.790 --> 00:26:03.430
What's the smallest step that you can take towards this life that you want to build for yourself?
00:26:03.590 --> 00:26:10.070
One that doesn't necessarily threaten your current lifestyle, your current job.
00:26:10.230 --> 00:26:18.070
What's one small action that will get you one inch closer to where you want to be one year from today?
00:26:19.190 --> 00:26:19.910
I like that.
00:26:19.990 --> 00:26:20.470
I like that.
00:26:20.550 --> 00:26:23.590
Just start and you know, build a little momentum.
00:26:24.310 --> 00:26:25.990
Um, all right, track 10.
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This is free, the acoustic version by Prince.
00:26:29.830 --> 00:26:33.110
Yes, I do highly recommend the acoustic version of the song.
00:26:33.350 --> 00:26:56.710
I believe Prince recorded it in 2016, and it actually came out last year, and the original is from 1982, and uh in the acoustic version he strips everything out the production, the layers, it's just the voice and a guitar, and what's left is a hymn to freedom.
00:26:57.110 --> 00:27:02.150
And really the arrangement is naked and makes it even more poignant.
00:27:02.470 --> 00:27:02.790
Uh-huh.
00:27:03.110 --> 00:27:09.750
Now the the song is about incarceration, something much more serious than quitting a job.
00:27:10.230 --> 00:27:17.590
But the line be glad that you are free, free to change your mind, free to go most anywhere anytime.
00:27:18.550 --> 00:27:22.870
There's others doing far worse than us, so be glad that you are free.
00:27:23.110 --> 00:27:29.430
Once you hear those words, it's hard to keep it contained in its original context.
00:27:29.750 --> 00:27:38.790
And you do appreciate a song that is about willpower and control over decisions, and frankly, it put things in perspective.
00:27:38.950 --> 00:27:48.630
You are free, and uh most of the decisions that we take on a daily basis may feel like life or death, but truly are about life and life.
00:27:49.350 --> 00:27:50.150
I like that.
00:27:50.390 --> 00:27:51.350
Life or life.
00:27:51.509 --> 00:27:54.550
Yeah, I mean, I I think uh I totally agree with all that.
00:27:54.710 --> 00:28:03.910
I think so often we we add weight to things that that are just aren't there, and and we can do so much more than we even realize, right?
00:28:04.070 --> 00:28:05.750
Even even something like we're doing now.
00:28:05.830 --> 00:28:18.310
Like when we started this podcast, you know, my my my co-hosts and I, we were just like, well, yeah, let's try to do one episode, and then one episode turned to two and then to ten, and we're about to hit 200.
00:28:18.390 --> 00:28:21.350
And it's like we we've been doing this for several years now.
00:28:21.590 --> 00:28:24.710
And um, you know, when people ask me, like, how do you get into that?
00:28:24.790 --> 00:28:26.950
It's like, well, we just we just kind
of started doing it.
00:28:27.110 --> 00:28:35.269
It's like they don't even realize it's almost like those studies where people don't even realize the the room they're trapped in, the door was unlocked the whole time.
00:28:35.590 --> 00:28:36.390
It's like it's that.
00:28:36.470 --> 00:28:40.470
It's like, no, you just do it, and and then it just kind of goes from there.
00:28:40.790 --> 00:28:42.470
Um, but I love that.
00:28:42.550 --> 00:28:47.830
And and Prince, as well as this next artist, I mean, both had work situations that they weren't happy with, right?
00:28:48.070 --> 00:28:57.509
Like they Prince famously battled with his uh recording label, and uh so did this next artist, because Track 11's You're on your own kid by Taylor Swift.
00:28:57.830 --> 00:28:58.470
Yes.
00:28:59.030 --> 00:29:08.790
So I am not a Swifty, but this song is perfect for this playlist, and uh let me tell you why.
00:29:09.110 --> 00:29:29.670
I coach a lot of consultants, and this is the perfect track for people that have a demanding job that pays a lot, but also asks for a lot, and uh and sometimes you just need to consider alternatives, consider transitioning out of consulting.
00:29:30.070 --> 00:29:34.950
Musically, you have these synths that come alive halfway through the song.
00:29:35.110 --> 00:29:44.310
It's basically uh the buzz in your head when you realize that something is off and slowly gets louder.
00:29:44.550 --> 00:29:49.030
It's uh slightly anxious arrangement, slightly hopeful.
00:29:49.269 --> 00:29:53.990
And basically, these scenes narrate this change of consciousness that you're going through.
00:29:54.230 --> 00:29:58.630
Uh she does excellent work uh in general with breakup songs.
00:29:58.870 --> 00:30:05.350
This one is not about a man, it's about growth, and the lyrics are powerful.
00:30:05.590 --> 00:30:13.269
She sings from sprinkler splashes to fireplace ashes because seasons all go fast when you're in consulting.
00:30:13.509 --> 00:30:20.950
And she sings, I gave my blood, sweat, and tears for this, which is something that you know many consultants can relate to.
00:30:21.269 --> 00:30:26.550
I hosted parties and starved my body because it's work hard, play, hard mentality.
00:30:26.790 --> 00:30:40.470
Uh, the jokes weren't funny, and I took my money, which is very Jack Antonov line, and it's the social performance that you're asked to do, and the professional performance that uh you need to deliver on.
00:30:40.950 --> 00:30:51.750
And uh I like that she says, I saw some things that can take away, because no matter at what point you are in the letter, you leave, but there's so much that you have learned that you can take with you.
00:30:52.230 --> 00:31:01.509
And uh and then she she in the apex of the song, she says, because there were pages turn and the bridges burn, everything you lose is a step you take.
00:31:01.590 --> 00:31:05.509
So take the friendship bracelets, take the moment and taste it.
00:31:05.670 --> 00:31:08.230
You've got no reason to be afraid, you're on your own kid.
00:31:08.310 --> 00:31:09.509
You always have been.
00:31:09.830 --> 00:31:14.790
Because you are alone as you approach the next thing, and that's okay.
00:31:16.150 --> 00:31:18.070
I love yeah, I mean, that's great.
00:31:18.230 --> 00:31:20.230
Like I I think you're 100% right.
00:31:20.390 --> 00:31:22.550
I love the interpretation of the song.
00:31:22.710 --> 00:31:24.070
Um, I'm kind of with you.
00:31:24.150 --> 00:31:28.070
I I'm not necessarily a Swifty, but I do appreciate her songwriting.
00:31:28.230 --> 00:31:33.269
Um, I also have a 13-year-old daughter, so I mean, I have to uh you know appreciate Taylor Swift.
00:31:33.350 --> 00:31:39.110
I I hear enough of it around the house, but um, but yeah, I I completely agree.
00:31:39.269 --> 00:31:47.110
I think people uh I kind of go back to what I just said about like kind of having the power in your own hands, and I think it's this message of you are on your own, right?
00:31:47.190 --> 00:31:51.830
And and that may, like to like you said, it may seem lonely, but but in some ways it's not.
00:31:51.910 --> 00:31:53.830
It's actually can be empowering as well.
00:31:54.230 --> 00:31:55.910
That's a beautiful way of framing it.
00:31:55.990 --> 00:32:02.550
The fact that, yeah, you're on you're on your own, that means that you have control, and isn't that powerful?
00:32:02.950 --> 00:32:03.590
Yes.
00:32:04.470 --> 00:32:11.590
Well, after all this reflection, after you've walked away from this job, track 12, ready to start, arcade fire.
00:32:11.910 --> 00:32:12.550
Yes.
00:32:12.870 --> 00:32:16.390
So this is literally about what's next.
00:32:16.630 --> 00:32:19.910
A door is closing and a new one is opening.
00:32:20.230 --> 00:32:34.550
So Arcade Fire, they wrote this song as they were navigating their own transition from beloved indie band to something bigger and more commercially, let's say, exposed with the suburbs.
00:32:34.950 --> 00:32:44.230
And uh, you know, they sing about the the businessmen that drink their blood, and the kids in art school said they would.
00:32:44.630 --> 00:32:54.470
Uh, because uh, you know, it's a music industry and uh eat or get eaten, and people warn them that selling out was inevitable.
00:32:54.630 --> 00:32:59.590
Uh, but this song is about, you know what, you were right, and I'm still gonna do it.
00:33:00.070 --> 00:33:11.190
And uh the lyrics that I like the most from from this song are if I was scared, I would, if I was bored, you know I would, and if I was pure, you know I would.
00:33:11.350 --> 00:33:12.630
Now I'm ready to start.
00:33:12.790 --> 00:33:26.630
My personal interpretation of it all is really this is the most immediate description of why people often don't quit out of fear, out of comfort, out of ooh, I don't know if it's uh the pure choice.
00:33:27.110 --> 00:33:31.269
And uh the song doesn't say that those things are fake.
00:33:31.509 --> 00:33:34.870
It says, I know all that, and I'm still gonna do it.
00:33:34.950 --> 00:33:36.470
I'm still gonna start.
00:33:36.710 --> 00:33:47.750
And it's not necessarily a happy ending, it doesn't sound like a happy ending, but it's the beginning of the unknown, and uh and you just need to step through that door.
00:33:48.950 --> 00:33:55.350
Yeah, and I love in the song there's just certain things that are clearly out of their control, right?
00:33:55.509 --> 00:34:09.670
And and it's like you have to kind of like you just said, it's like you have to either accept those or not, I don't and just kind of navigate them because you know there's there's people you can't control, there are factors you can't control.
00:34:09.829 --> 00:34:13.909
The only thing you can control is like what path do you want to take going forward?
00:34:14.230 --> 00:34:19.989
And um, yeah, I mean, I just I just love uh love this song for kind of pushing that forward.
00:34:20.070 --> 00:34:22.309
I think that I think that makes a lot of sense.
00:34:22.630 --> 00:34:23.269
Yeah.
00:34:23.829 --> 00:34:26.070
Um, well, Eduardo, this was great.
00:34:26.230 --> 00:34:28.469
I mean, this was such a great, super awesome mix.
00:34:28.630 --> 00:34:31.590
Thanks for coming to the show to share about loud quitting.
00:34:31.750 --> 00:34:36.070
Um, I think this was uh great and hopefully very inspirational to the people out there.
00:34:36.230 --> 00:34:43.030
Now tell everyone where they can find out more about you and maybe uh bring you in to coach them up a little bit.
00:34:43.509 --> 00:34:44.469
Absolutely.
00:34:44.710 --> 00:35:07.030
Well, you can find me on my website, eduardosavi.com, and uh you can read all my essays about pop culture and how the stories that we see on TV and on the screen and at the stadium translate to our own sense of leadership on uh the uncoachables.substack.com.
00:35:07.829 --> 00:35:08.309
Excellent.
00:35:08.470 --> 00:35:11.910
And we will include links to both of those in the show notes.
00:35:11.990 --> 00:35:13.510
So definitely go check that out.
00:35:13.670 --> 00:35:18.550
And go ahead and make your own super awesome mix at my.superawesomix.com.
00:35:18.710 --> 00:35:24.389
Again, it is free, and um, you can go do that and share it on any streaming platform.
00:35:24.630 --> 00:35:30.470
So I've got more mixtapes to come up with and more guests to interview, so I'll get to work on that.
00:35:30.550 --> 00:35:33.750
So for Eduardo, this is Matt, and we'll see you next time.