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of prowess, even at Georgia where he only played 17 minutes, or 17 games, excuse me, didn't start a single game. 04:24.120 --> 04:30.484 [SPEAKER_01]: Was still, was 1.1 steals per game, 1.7 steals per game, and almost a block per game as a freshman. 04:31.004 --> 04:40.091 [SPEAKER_01]: Everywhere he's gone, he's been a elite, elite defender, and one of the best at generating offense from defense in the country. 04:40.411 --> 04:44.692 [SPEAKER_00]: I think he's the ultimate luxury player on this roster. 04:44.912 --> 04:59.037 [SPEAKER_00]: I really, when, and it's funny because I feel like we spent a lot of time during the offseason talking about front court depth, which was obviously an emphasis on this, you know, from the staff trying to go out and get some depth there. 05:00.437 --> 05:13.320 [SPEAKER_00]: When you consider the fact that the Shane Montgomery might be like your fourth or fifth best guard pending all of the crap that we heard today about Trimble and that eligibility saga that continues. 05:14.960 --> 05:26.723 [SPEAKER_00]: But regardless this is a guy that I guess I think he's the ultimate luxury player for this roster because you don't need him to have a significant amount of minutes 05:30.845 --> 05:42.436 [SPEAKER_00]: is what his production looks like with limited roles versus significant roles because there's some, there's some stats there from, from his time at Georgia that that make me a little concerned. 05:42.816 --> 05:51.584 [SPEAKER_00]: But for the most part, this guy reeks of that perfect bench player for a Pat Kelsey system. 05:52.265 --> 05:59.967 [SPEAKER_00]: Pat Kelsey talks nonstop about not losing a step when he brings people in off the bench. 06:00.067 --> 06:05.808 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, he wants that spark and this is exactly the kind of player that provides it. 06:06.208 --> 06:08.609 [SPEAKER_00]: You mentioned the chaos, you mentioned the disruption. 06:09.269 --> 06:11.849 [SPEAKER_00]: That is exactly what he brings on the defensive end. 06:12.489 --> 06:14.370 [SPEAKER_00]: The thing about a dischean Montgomery, 06:15.170 --> 06:26.035 [SPEAKER_00]: is that what he does on the defensive side of the ball totally makes up for whatever happens on the offensive side of my opinion because he can create his own offense. 06:26.455 --> 06:36.300 [SPEAKER_00]: If he can force turnovers and steal at the same rate that he has in the previous seasons that he's been bland, he'll generate offense for himself. 06:36.960 --> 06:53.611 [SPEAKER_00]: But no, this is the type of player I think that gives you so much on the defensive side that he can make up for any inconsistencies that might exist on the offensive side, which I'm sure will be a point of conversation tonight, but I love that CCO. 06:54.171 --> 06:54.812 [SPEAKER_00]: Thanks, Kevin. 06:55.492 --> 06:56.493 [SPEAKER_01]: The agent of chaos. 06:57.253 --> 07:01.899 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he comes to Louisville to do one thing, and that is to disrupt opposing offences. 07:02.419 --> 07:13.912 [SPEAKER_01]: And we've already talked across multiple episodes about the defensive prowess of this roster, and with John and her check, take a shot, Alan's not here, but still, 07:14.473 --> 07:35.938 [SPEAKER_01]: take a shot, take a drink wherever you are, water, whatever your drinking coffee, as you listen to us, as we say John and her checked out this season, you must take a drink of whatever your drinking, but with a defensive minded kind of guru on the roster, aiding pat, I think the shame on gummeries in the perfect place to be able to utilize his skill as long as 07:36.718 --> 07:55.241 [SPEAKER_01]: this roster and this the roster construction comes together as it was theoretically built to to be and what I mean by that is if one piece of this doesn't align, everyone is going to be asked to do something that they're not necessarily within their wheelhouse with their greatest strength. 07:56.522 --> 08:02.747 [SPEAKER_01]: We talked about if Jackson Shelstead, you know, we certainly don't see eye to eye on this as a show, right? 08:02.767 --> 08:12.876 [SPEAKER_01]: And you know, everyone kind of has their different perspective, but I believe that if you ask him to be, you're go to score that the rest of the season, the rest of your team isn't going to be what you expected to be. 08:13.437 --> 08:20.262 [SPEAKER_01]: If you ask Adrian Woolly to be a point guard or if you ask him to be your your top 08:21.263 --> 08:33.530 [SPEAKER_01]: wing defender, whatever it is, you put him in a different role than what he's great at, which is slashing, being able to create, then you're kind of setting yourself up for not necessarily getting the most out of him. 08:33.630 --> 08:34.671 [SPEAKER_01]: Same thing with Carter Knox. 08:35.171 --> 08:42.155 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, we talked about, you guys talked about he's, you know, potentially the greatest wing that Pat Kelsey will ever coach the most athletic, the most 08:43.096 --> 08:53.644 [SPEAKER_01]: defensive minded, all of that, but if these guys have to do, you know, if Carter not tests to have the ball on his hands and create, that means, you know, things are not going the way you want. 08:53.724 --> 09:07.634 [SPEAKER_01]: And I think the same thing exists with the Shaman Montgomery and that if you make him a ball in the hands type of player, if you make him a spot up 3. shooter all the time, you're not getting the most out of what he can provide to you. 09:07.974 --> 09:11.197 [SPEAKER_01]: But if everyone is in the role playing up to what you believe they can, 09:13.252 --> 09:20.675 [SPEAKER_01]: boy, Deshema Gummery might walk out there with 14 points off of back cuts and fast break dunks. 09:21.395 --> 09:29.238 [SPEAKER_01]: And I mean that hyperbolicly, but I mean that seriously, like this is a guy Ryan that if 2.1 steals per game is happening. 09:30.298 --> 09:33.379 [SPEAKER_01]: one would think theoretically you're probably getting a dunk

out of one of those. 09:33.779 --> 09:52.904 [SPEAKER_01]: You're talking about his ability to score inside the paint and a statistic that is absolutely mind-blowing about him is that last season in college basketball was the only player to shoot at six foot four or as a guard or forward to shoot 65% from two while also averaging 2.1 steals per game, 09:53.904 --> 09:57.806 [SPEAKER_01]: four college basketball players have done in the last 20 seasons. 09:58.386 --> 10:00.587 [SPEAKER_01]: That, to me, tells you what he can be. 10:00.988 --> 10:10.132 [SPEAKER_01]: And if you allow him to be a spark plug, if you allow him to be a guy that comes in and says immediately, which one of you all is cooking offensively? 10:10.172 --> 10:10.852 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm guarding you. 10:11.092 --> 10:14.314 [SPEAKER_01]: And he can go out there and put a guy on Montgomery Island. 10:14.714 --> 10:16.095 [SPEAKER_01]: And he can buy 10:16.535 --> 10:31.882 [SPEAKER_01]: a hedge in a high screen can steal the ball from a point guard and set up a fast break or if someone tries to throw a pass cross court to what they think is an open defender and here comes freakin' Charles Woods in slash to Shane Montgomery to pick that ball off and go. 10:31.902 --> 10:36.825 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you can find that with the T-wheel like athleticism and dunking prowess. 10:36.845 --> 10:40.667 [SPEAKER_01]: Like this is going to be a guy that I'm telling you this year. 10:40.927 --> 10:42.708 [SPEAKER_01]: They're going to be some insane 10:43.688 --> 10:49.692 [SPEAKER_01]: don't steal the dunks to timeouts to the young center going absolutely freaking ballistic. 10:49.712 --> 10:54.615 [SPEAKER_01]: This is a Louisville pale hard hat pale lunch pale kind of guy. 10:54.975 --> 10:55.816 [SPEAKER_01]: He is going to fit it. 10:55.836 --> 11:00.759 [SPEAKER_01]: It's totally as long as you as long as he's only doing what he's good at. 11:00.919 --> 11:04.001 [SPEAKER_01]: His ceiling at what he's good at is so insanely high. 11:04.341 --> 11:08.464 [SPEAKER_01]: But if you start asking him to be a spot up three point shooter, be a guy with the ball on his hands. 11:08.544 --> 11:10.685 [SPEAKER_01]: You're not allowed him to cook the way that he needs to. 11:10.765 --> 11:22.885 [SPEAKER_00]: I think the ultimate goal, as I think a lot of players' goals are when they decide to join a Pat Kelsey roster, is to develop the three-point shooting as a weapon that the defense has to honor. 11:23.949 --> 11:37.618 [SPEAKER_00]: If to shame on gummery can consistently make defenders honor his outside shooting, right, is going to slaughter people at the right, right. 11:37.658 --> 11:47.304 [SPEAKER_00]: He has really good, like you said, I mean, significant athleticism size, I think he's got some NBA, like, caliber to, I'm becoming NBA guy. 11:47.504 --> 11:48.085 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know why. 11:48.165 --> 11:48.785 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know why. 11:53.668 --> 12:00.850 [SPEAKER_01]: He

the thing is that the NBA's people will read it will hear that or UK fans will hear that and that's it Oh mooney average 13 points again. 12:00.870 --> 12:18.895 [SPEAKER_01]: He played in 17 games of Georgia and started zero games I understand that but to get to the NBA you don't necessarily have to be a star You just have to be a star at the thing you're good at and if being a defensive-minded Menace at six foot four who can play the two guard and lock down anybody ranging from 12:19.315 --> 12:24.258 [SPEAKER_01]: Luke had Donchitch to, you know, somebody giving somebody fits that's a three or four. 12:24.378 --> 12:25.399 [SPEAKER_01]: That's super valuable. 12:25.859 --> 12:35.566 [SPEAKER_01]: So I think that what he does Ryan is totally NBA valuable if he can shoot the ball, which has been questionable along the way throughout his career. 12:36.580 --> 12:43.145 [SPEAKER_01]: And what I was going to say is to your point, you're exactly right, like when it comes to the skill and making them honor it. 12:43.245 --> 12:45.386 [SPEAKER_01]: I think that there's two types of three point shooters. 12:45.446 --> 12:53.032 [SPEAKER_01]: There's shot creators and there's guys that become available and great shooters that benefit off of other people's offense. 12:53.532 --> 12:54.853 [SPEAKER_01]: and make defensive respect them. 12:55.033 --> 12:57.294 [SPEAKER_01]: And he's not a three point creator. 12:57.694 --> 13:08.419 [SPEAKER_01]: He's not a guy that you put the ball on his hands, my cow brown, uh, Ryan Conwell that can just step back three pointer with no room and get you three points. 13:08.839 --> 13:15.002 [SPEAKER_01]: He's somebody that though if you have three other guys for the guys on the floor that can score and hit shots, if 13:15.342 --> 13:25.691 [SPEAKER_01]: that if the defense has to respect that and he's open in Jackson, Shell, Stead, as we talked about gets into the mid range, he's going to benefit a lot from that short corner three, like it's going to be beautiful. 13:26.091 --> 13:30.635 [SPEAKER_01]: And he's also, if he has a pump fake, whole boy. 13:31.275 --> 13:33.857 [SPEAKER_01]: He's not catch a body on the baseless. 13:34.177 --> 13:40.501 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, like we saw Gabe Dines has been the Ah, I'm sorry guys, it's not season. 13:40.901 --> 13:44.464 [SPEAKER_01]: But she's on gummarys, like I'm dunking on this guy every time I can. 13:45.364 --> 13:52.809 [SPEAKER_01]: But if he can do that to other teams, like it's gonna be, I just like that type of thing gets willful fans so hyped. 13:52.909 --> 14:12.474 [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's haven't had that a lot recently in the last 10 years or so of guys that will just punch on you on the on the baseline outside of the donovan Mitchell's outside of the montress hair rolls like you know that he will it's been it's been far and few between and those guys are all legends in their own right because they will just just punch on you with no hesitation 14:13.257 --> 14:16.278 [SPEAKER_00]: That's, you, you kind of, you alluded to it. 14:16.298 --> 14:27.880 [SPEAKER_00]: You were talking about like, you know, how much this guy fits the, the kind of like the conventional, the traditional vibe of like a Louisville style. 14:28.960 --> 14:34.421 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, he is going to have fans out of their seats going nuts. 14:34.441 --> 14:36.582 [SPEAKER_00]: This whole roster is full of people. 14:37.322 --> 15:02.102 [SPEAKER_00]: that are going to to drive to the rim and have physical finishes like there's more athleticism on this roster than there's been on probably any Pat Kelsey head coach roster and possibly I could I couldn't agree more I mean to shame my summary in any year would have been little best wing defender. 15:03.063 --> 15:16.614 [SPEAKER_01]: You have Carter and ox also on this team you have Adrian Woolly on this team, you know, not that Adrian Woolly is a world-bitter on defense, but like you have And what would be the best defender or best 3 and D guy year over year? 15:17.314 --> 15:21.057 [SPEAKER_01]: You have two of them on this year's team That's a luxury man. 15:21.177 --> 15:25.681 [SPEAKER_01]: Like that's John and her check take a shot Written all over, you know what I mean? 15:26.162 --> 15:29.404 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah What does that still got a you got a little stone right there? 15:29.544 --> 15:30.105 [SPEAKER_01]: Is that what that is? 15:30.865 --> 15:32.466 [SPEAKER_01]: No, I don't say a wheelstone. 15:32.526 --> 15:33.067 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm sorry. 15:33.087 --> 15:33.687 [SPEAKER_01]: I can't. 15:33.707 --> 15:34.088 [SPEAKER_01]: What is that? 15:34.348 --> 15:35.609 [SPEAKER_00]: It's like an october fest. 15:35.629 --> 15:37.231 [SPEAKER_00]: I had like some sort of celebration earlier. 15:37.511 --> 15:37.771 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. 15:38.031 --> 15:41.895 [SPEAKER_00]: They were handing out these free glasses, but this is a shiner-balk october fest. 15:41.915 --> 15:42.235 [SPEAKER_00]: It's good. 15:42.590 --> 15:43.010 [SPEAKER_01]: There we go. 15:43.110 --> 15:45.372 [SPEAKER_01]: We need to get some beer glasses. 15:45.932 --> 15:46.752 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that'd be good. 15:46.772 --> 15:48.813 [SPEAKER_01]: A little beer sounds great, you know. 15:49.494 --> 15:50.054 [SPEAKER_01]: That's right. 15:50.214 --> 15:50.754 [SPEAKER_01]: That's right. 15:50.854 --> 15:50.995 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 15:51.055 --> 16:02.521 [SPEAKER_00]: I would be remiss if I didn't mention the elusive Bahamas game where he led the team in scoring had 20 points. 16:04.462 --> 16:06.183 [SPEAKER_00]: He was seven for eight from the line. 16:06.963 --> 16:09.726 [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, that's something I really really want to see. 16:09.886 --> 16:21.418 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, yeah, if if this guy can, cause, cause, you know, the, the, the free throw percentage up until now has been decent. 16:22.199 --> 16:24.081 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm trying to find the exact number. 16:24.522 --> 16:27.685 [SPEAKER_00]: Uh,

I think I saw 77% is I think what I saw. 16:28.005 --> 16:29.026 [SPEAKER_00]: So he was seven for eight. 16:29.647 --> 16:30.287 [SPEAKER_00]: in the Bahamas. 16:30.607 --> 16:37.909 [SPEAKER_00]: I think if he can be a consistent free throw shooter, he's going to be a guy that gets in the lane and gets fouled. 16:38.309 --> 16:46.011 [SPEAKER_00]: And so if he can get some points at the line, that's going to be really big for his offense. 16:46.211 --> 16:52.613 [SPEAKER_00]: And I think for a guy like to Shane, I think just seeing the ball going the basket is a big motivator. 16:52.633 --> 16:54.233 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he gets anybody going. 16:54.293 --> 16:56.373 [SPEAKER_00]: And that's, that's, so if he can 16:58.814 --> 17:19.952 [SPEAKER_00]: at the line like he did in the Bahamas with seven for eight like I said and you saw how he performed in that game also went through for four from three scored 20 points and was like I said the leading score five for eight on on field goals and that was actually not in that very many minutes he played 22 minutes he was behind and 17:20.612 --> 17:29.158 [SPEAKER_00]: Jackson, Alvo, Flory, Woolly, in minutes, in that game, and obviously we didn't have Obi or Knox in the Bahamas. 17:29.178 --> 17:44.088 [SPEAKER_00]: So how to great performance there, and I think, you know, if you can get some free throws at the line, that can kind of get his offensive game going, but you know what you have defensively, and that's, that's, like you said, CCO. 17:45.210 --> 18:05.696 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, what I love that I think the most about him and something that I think will be highly appreciated by fans and Pat Kelsey in fact I think you'll see Pat and post game press conferences allude to this is that you don't need to shame to have a great offensive game in order to reflect the overall portion of his game. 18:05.716 --> 18:06.816 [SPEAKER_01]: You hear a lot of the times. 18:07.536 --> 18:11.398 [SPEAKER_01]: Look, the offense wasn't hidden shots. 18:11.658 --> 18:12.838 [SPEAKER_01]: It impacted the defense. 18:12.878 --> 18:13.799 [SPEAKER_01]: They didn't want to get out there. 18:13.839 --> 18:14.799 [SPEAKER_01]: They didn't want to buckle down. 18:14.819 --> 18:15.719 [SPEAKER_01]: They didn't want to defend. 18:16.139 --> 18:25.383 [SPEAKER_01]: But I think that the shame on Gummery seems like the kind of guy that takes it personally every night of who he's guarding and that he wants to dominate that matchup. 18:25.423 --> 18:34.707 [SPEAKER_01]: And I think that that mindset, whether it is a starting guy or an off-the-binge guy, will be absolutely needed to put little over the edge. 18:35.187 --> 18:53.509 [SPEAKER_01]: And I think that the take I have this year is that multiple games will be impacted by the way that the shame on Gummary locks up and opposing defender to the point that I think that he will be in closing line ups a lot more than he's not and you look at this this schedule this year and you look at 18:53.990 --> 19:20.160 [SPEAKER_01]: the ACC in particular, Ryan, you look at Duke, you look at North Carolina, you look at Virginia, you look at Miami, all these guys have prolific wings and guys that you can count on on with the ball in their hands, and I think that in closing games, in closing minutes of games, they're going to want a guy like to shame my gummering on the floor because he can create havoc and create chaos, defensively, 19:20.640 --> 19:29.151 [SPEAKER_01]: and he can really force an offense in the half court to struggle because he can cover so much ground, side to side. 19:29.251 --> 19:31.835 [SPEAKER_01]: He can, you know, lock somebody up one or one. 19:32.756 --> 19:35.099 [SPEAKER_01]: And I think that to your point earlier is that, 19:36.180 --> 19:41.144 [SPEAKER_01]: He's not going to be a guy that an NBA team says, man, he's going to be my leading score. 19:41.244 --> 20:02.919 [SPEAKER_01]: He's going to be a starter, but can I interest you in a guy in the NBA like Lou Dort, that a long time ago, I'm going to set a thunder wing, a guy that's six four, two hundred and fifteen, two hundred and twenty pounds was at one point bill, does it, you know, as a potential starter, but over time or star developed more into a defensive 20:04.240 --> 20:08.283 [SPEAKER_01]: guy that could knock down threes, but could make clutch plays and clutch minutes. 20:08.303 --> 20:14.086 [SPEAKER_01]: And I think clutch plays and clutch minutes is going to look different for the shame on gummering. 20:14.307 --> 20:21.391 [SPEAKER_01]: Ryan, but I think what it will look like is defensively coming up a big in moments when little needs a stop. 20:21.671 --> 20:29.937 [SPEAKER_01]: And through the first multiple years of pack out season 10 year, we've struggled to get that stop that that I need it right now. 20:30.817 --> 20:55.767 [SPEAKER_01]: that stop and I think that the shame on Gummary can be that big game defensive-minded stopper that you need that just flips the mindset of your squad like you know if you have that guy that just gets under their skin and you know that nobody on their team is going to be able to get by him laterally it changes the way you played basketball it really does and I think Gummary has the chance not saying he will be that because 20:56.607 --> 21:06.052 [SPEAKER_01]: Go back to Georgia, 17 games, zero game started, really struggled 25% 3. shooting, 1.1 sales for game, but that was about all he offered to his defense. 21:06.513 --> 21:10.335 [SPEAKER_01]: And if he is that, it's not as great as what he can be if it's well rounded. 21:10.835 --> 21:16.038 [SPEAKER_01]: And I think he'll be more of the date and version of the shame on grammar than he would be the Georgia version of that. 21:16.412 --> 21:33.407 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and that's that's one of my big questions, I think, because he's I said he's a luxury he is the type of guard that yeah, it's probably going to be Kind of buried behind a

decent amount of amount of others in this in this roster and in this rotation. 21:34.748 --> 21:35.569 [SPEAKER_00]: To some degree. 21:36.029 --> 21:37.591 [SPEAKER_00]: And so, but easy. 21:38.091 --> 21:39.933 [SPEAKER_01]: So let's talk about that real quick. 21:40.213 --> 21:52.205 [SPEAKER_01]: go ahead and finish the point but let's talk about that because I think the rotation in the guard position is certainly different without Seth Trimble, but I think that the shame of a government for all the reasons is different. 21:52.225 --> 21:55.589 [SPEAKER_01]: So go ahead and finish it what you were saying but let's dive into the guard rotation. 21:57.684 --> 22:00.126 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if I want to like break down the whole guard rotation. 22:00.206 --> 22:11.892 [SPEAKER_00]: I just I have questions about like whether or not to shame can can be quite as Productive averaging 15 minutes a game as he can 20 to 22. 22:11.912 --> 22:18.336 [SPEAKER_00]: It's kind of similar to like your argument You had about Adrian woolly like he's he's not like that microwave just man that you mentioned and so it's 22:18.776 --> 22:33.042 [SPEAKER_00]: Like how much of his game needs to be kind of rhythmic I think defensively like Doesn't I mean he's plug-in show you can throw him out there for however many minutes you want him to and defensively He can assume that role no problem. 22:33.422 --> 22:46.488 [SPEAKER_00]: I think that things that stuck out to me was like It's not so it's not just Steals he's also got a decent amount of blocks like 46 blocks in 86 games Yeah, so when you add steels and blocks 22:47.472 --> 22:49.152 [SPEAKER_00]: like both together. 22:49.252 --> 22:53.493 [SPEAKER_00]: So there is no rhythm to his game defensively. 22:53.513 --> 22:54.773 [SPEAKER_00]: And that's kind of the point, right? 22:54.793 --> 22:58.274 [SPEAKER_00]: Like you said in CCO, he's causing chaos. 22:58.574 --> 23:01.575 [SPEAKER_00]: He's taking rhythm out of the opposing team. 23:02.075 --> 23:12.337 [SPEAKER_00]: But I think offensively, it remains to be seen whether or not he can kind of maintain his value on that side of the court with a limited amount of minutes. 23:12.757 --> 23:13.557 [SPEAKER_00]: Which is understandable. 23:13.577 --> 23:15.538 [SPEAKER_00]: That's why I think the free throw line part is so big. 23:15.638 --> 23:42.364 [SPEAKER_00]: It's like if you can his first offensive points of every game are just like some free throws that might be a good way to get him kind of settled in and that's That's I want to see him on the attack like consistently and if it if him being a threat from beyond the arc helps him do that more than sure But don't make that the main thing, you know, and I mean because you're big enough in your athletic enough to just finish at the rim 23:43.124 --> 24:07.964 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, and the Pat Kelsey is that system is predicated on, you know, the version of Nick Nurse, the 76ers coach and long time Raptors

coaches of the the greatest shots that exists on a basketball court are dunks layups in three point shots and I think to shame Montgomery fits the bill of that being him being a great fit in that system because he's going to do one of two things. 24:08.124 --> 24:08.885 [SPEAKER_01]: He's going to dunk. 24:09.549 --> 24:11.651 [SPEAKER_01]: he's going to hit a free throw because he's going to get foul. 24:11.731 --> 24:22.419 [SPEAKER_01]: I was trying to dunk or lay the ball in or he's going to hit three point shots that are typically going to be spot up open in rhythm three point shots because of the rest of the flow of the offense. 24:22.479 --> 24:32.827 [SPEAKER_01]: So I think that's the beauty of that and then you check the box of how he fits defensively with John Ender check and that he can lock up the best teams opposing wing player. 24:32.847 --> 24:34.048 [SPEAKER_01]: He can lock up a point guard. 24:34.429 --> 24:38.472 [SPEAKER_01]: He can really be that versatile jackknife or Swiss army knife that you need. 24:38.952 --> 24:55.593 [SPEAKER_01]: to be successful defensively and because of his ability to gamble now it'll hurt you sometimes but his ability to gamble and his ability to make plays defensively it's going to give you more possessions which is going to help Louisville overall because I think this team can score so you give them more opportunity to do that. 24:55.973 --> 24:57.395 [SPEAKER_01]: you're making them more dangerous. 24:57.795 --> 25:03.281 [SPEAKER_01]: That will be a huge thing to watch this year, and I think that that will be ultimately how he gets on the floor. 25:03.362 --> 25:14.174 [SPEAKER_01]: But to the point about the roster and not wanting to break it down, I totally agree with you because each one of these players is individual and you can go and you can watch the player previews for them. 25:14.194 --> 25:14.654 [SPEAKER_01]: But I think 25:15.475 --> 25:18.397 [SPEAKER_01]: with Seth Trimble's in out snip snap. 25:18.837 --> 25:19.158 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm in. 25:19.198 --> 25:19.478 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm out. 25:19.498 --> 25:20.138 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm ineligible. 25:20.198 --> 25:20.799 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm eligible. 25:21.219 --> 25:25.502 [SPEAKER_01]: Until we know, we have to look at the roster overall with him and without him. 25:26.062 --> 25:31.346 [SPEAKER_01]: And without him, Adrian Woolly becomes your presumed start a two-guard no matter what. 25:31.386 --> 25:32.366 [SPEAKER_01]: There's no denying that. 25:32.446 --> 25:34.728 [SPEAKER_01]: But to shame my gummery benefits because now, 25:35.188 --> 25:40.651 [SPEAKER_01]: You don't have a backup point guard, you know, per se, because you don't have London, Johnson. 25:40.991 --> 25:51.097 [SPEAKER_01]: So you assume Adrian Woolly is going to take some of that responsibility, but then you're also now without another two guard on your roster, and you don't really have anyone else on your team that can play that. 25:51.237 --> 25:55.440 [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe Carter Knox, you know, you can throw into the mix there, but 25:55.920 --> 26:07.067 [SPEAKER_01]: I think to shame our summary is going to be the biggest beneficiary of minutes without Seth Trimble and you're going to see him go from what you mentioned 1015 to more like 20 or 25. 26:07.467 --> 26:13.811 [SPEAKER_01]: And I wonder what is the law of diminished returns with to shame my summary? 26:14.031 --> 26:15.772 [SPEAKER_01]: Is there a minute mark where his 26:16.832 --> 26:43.602 [SPEAKER_01]: his production dips or is it like his per 40 numbers are just bonkers and you play him 25 minutes and all of a sudden he's averaging 17 points a game and it's forced it you know that's that's bad math it's fan math but you know humor me if you will you right it's a good point because I mean that that's you look at the the one stop he's had so far in a power conference 26:46.523 --> 26:51.904 [SPEAKER_00]: The Delta there is striking, but there was a lot of inconsistency there. 26:51.944 --> 26:56.165 [SPEAKER_00]: There was a lot of undefined role. 26:56.465 --> 27:15.730 [SPEAKER_00]: I would say in Georgia and so You know if if we can make it abundantly clear what dethaines here to do and He can lean into that then I think disguise a limit for this guy and as you mentioned when it comes to translation to the next level 27:16.671 --> 27:30.390 [SPEAKER_00]: I think that's also good for him is making the role very clear and Making it and if he's good at that thing then yeah, you're gonna play more and there's there's a few things that 27:31.572 --> 27:35.935 [SPEAKER_00]: did stick out to me that I've heard over the offseason and over the summer. 27:36.615 --> 27:38.276 [SPEAKER_00]: He got interviewed after the Bahamas game. 27:38.296 --> 27:39.797 [SPEAKER_00]: He was talking about how he's been shooting. 27:39.817 --> 27:49.143 [SPEAKER_00]: 100, it was like 103s and 300 free throws or either 100 free throws and a 300 free throws or 103. 27:49.363 --> 27:53.306 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't remember exactly, but he mentioned like he's been doing that every single practice. 27:53.646 --> 27:54.226 [SPEAKER_00]: So he's working on 27:59.970 --> 28:08.260 [SPEAKER_01]: So you're saying I came to the year when he's, you know, 38% 3.2% that he's going to say and his press conference that you weren't with me when I was shooting in the gym. 28:08.640 --> 28:09.701 [SPEAKER_00]: That's exactly right. 28:10.302 --> 28:11.723 [SPEAKER_00]: You guys weren't with me in the gym. 28:11.824 --> 28:12.404 [SPEAKER_01]: That's all I'm hearing. 28:12.444 --> 28:14.907 [SPEAKER_00]: You were a win the one I was shooting in the gym. 28:15.368 --> 28:17.770 [SPEAKER_00]: You weren't with me when I was shooting in the Bahamas. 28:18.051 --> 28:18.591 [SPEAKER_00]: And we weren't. 28:19.412 --> 28:28.317 [SPEAKER_01]: It's not right, well, I want, unfortunately, so everyone, you know, I wanted to be the leader of the fan club. 28:28.337 --> 28:36.382

[SPEAKER_01]: The leader of the CCO club over here because I think this guy's a difference maker in a way that hasn't had and that's cliche to say, but 28:38.443 --> 28:44.485 [SPEAKER_01]: Who has been the go-to lockdown defender that can create havoc for Louisville? 28:44.565 --> 28:54.928 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, there's certainly been some, you know, you've seen it in Burst, but who's role has been surely that in other things? 28:55.468 --> 29:14.968 [SPEAKER_00]: I think the other thing that sticks out to me about his defensive playstyle is that it aligns really well with having the bigs that we have because he's a risk taker defensively like there there are times where he kind of he gets ahead of himself and like somebody ends up getting a getting past him and and you know he's trying to jump passing land and and all of a sudden that guys. 29:16.169 --> 29:18.552 [SPEAKER_00]: you know going towards the rim, but guess what, we got clean up. 29:19.072 --> 29:19.793 [SPEAKER_01]: We got clean up. 29:19.813 --> 29:20.634 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you know. 29:20.714 --> 29:20.895 [SPEAKER_01]: Wow. 29:21.195 --> 29:32.949 [SPEAKER_00]: So if we have rim, if we have rim protection like that, down low, you can afford to take some gambles in the passing lanes and steels that it's the whole defense is I hope is it's just chaotic. 29:33.049 --> 29:36.411 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, well, you know, Trojan didn't build their business off of being on Grisky. 29:36.431 --> 29:38.973 [SPEAKER_01]: When you have protection, you can do what you need to do, you know what I mean? 29:39.093 --> 29:43.076 [SPEAKER_01]: Like when you got, when you got to cover, you can go in a number of ways. 29:43.256 --> 29:44.457 [SPEAKER_01]: It's just the way that it is. 29:44.597 --> 29:54.504 [SPEAKER_01]: And with Florey and with Gabe Dines and with Obenek Hezzy, when you have, you know, a certainly Florey, no one ever accused him of being an oversized center. 29:54.524 --> 29:59.308 [SPEAKER_01]: But when you have Obenek and Gabe Dines in your front court, along with the big 12 defensive player of the year, 29:59.768 --> 30:06.516 [SPEAKER_01]: A guy I like to shame on Gamer, he can get a little bit riskier with what he can do as a defender after already being a proven defender. 30:06.917 --> 30:18.170 [SPEAKER_01]: Now the question is Ryan can he take that step up and do the opposite of what Georgia's statistics look like in the 17 games, hopefully as you mentioned, is the difference a defined role. 30:18.710 --> 30:41.715 [SPEAKER_01]: is it we're not expecting you to be the player of the year like you were when you were in the Mac conference we're expecting you to be our best defender off the bench we need you to play 25 minutes a game but we're not expecting you to go out there and do anything other than just create havoc and that's it and whatever that looks like if it's offensive possessions if it's points off of turnovers if it's free throws if it's spot up in the corner 30:42.235 --> 30:48.317 [SPEAKER_01]: off of, you know, us getting out in transition and then resetting and you being open because our guards are electric. 30:48.777 --> 30:51.078 [SPEAKER_01]: That's that's all that is on the table. 30:51.198 --> 31:05.544 [SPEAKER_01]: And I think that that's what makes disshame our gummery the most intriguing transfer addition of the offseason for maybe any team in the ACC and arguably in the country because the ceiling is so incredibly high, someone say the 31:10.398 --> 31:11.379 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he's a great defender. 31:11.619 --> 31:12.080 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 31:12.560 --> 31:13.721 [SPEAKER_01]: That's not a bad forward for me. 31:13.841 --> 31:14.302 [SPEAKER_01]: I'll take it. 31:14.362 --> 31:15.563 [SPEAKER_01]: He'll walk down your best wing. 31:16.184 --> 31:16.684 [SPEAKER_01]: I'll take it. 31:17.105 --> 31:29.316 [SPEAKER_01]: So I think to shame my Grammarie, I'll be at likely a bench player, not gonna set the world on fire, but what he will set on fire is a couple of jokeering the thieves in the KFC of Sinner in the second half of basketball games in the KFC of Sinner electric. 31:29.376 --> 31:30.838 [SPEAKER_01]: That type of thing will be amazing. 31:31.759 --> 31:32.019 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 31:32.710 --> 31:56.312 [SPEAKER_00]: agree I think the other thing that that sticks out here is is the timing of when he got added I mean honestly he was one of the later additions I think at that point it was relatively clear to him what his role is going to be and seemed like he was you know embracing that quite a bit just from the jump in terms of you know the the timing of of when he got added after a decent amount of other people had already been 31:57.433 --> 32:14.008 [SPEAKER_00]: Recruited to this roster, so I think that the role definition is clear and I don't think you're gonna have to deal Quite as much with maybe some of the uncertainty that you had when he was a Georgia Like we talked about how he didn't play as many games as minutes weren't really all that consistent. 32:14.288 --> 32:14.568 [SPEAKER_00]: I think 32:15.629 --> 32:34.820 [SPEAKER_00]: this is your off the bench chaos creator and you know this is the guy after Jackson Shellstad, Major and Willie are just light and you up comes on and is giving you a completely different brand of guard play and he's also a guy that will be getting, he'll be coming off the bench early. 32:34.840 --> 32:44.126 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, PK Dunzel, he does a lot of rotating, he does a lot of substituting so he's going to be a significant wrench in everyone else's offense so I'm pumped. 32:44.226 --> 32:54.072 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's the kind of guy that makes opposing players when he checks in, roll their eyes and they're like, come on, like he's freaking kidding me, like stop. 32:54.472 --> 32:55.493 [SPEAKER_01]: He's annoying. 32:55.913 --> 32:56.593 [SPEAKER_01]: He's a past. 32:56.873 --> 32:58.955 [SPEAKER_01]: He is going to get in your jersey. 32:59.935 --> 33:08.483 [SPEAKER_01]: and he's going to let you hear about it from what everything I've seen and he's probably going to dunk on your big man if your big man gives him any shot. 33:08.563 --> 33:13.347 [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm excited for what he brings to the team from a tenacity standpoint. 33:13.728 --> 33:24.057 [SPEAKER_01]: I think he checks the boxes in so many ways, despite not doing it loudly, like not a star, not going to be your best player, but he's going to do so many things that 33:24.797 --> 33:35.544 [SPEAKER_01]: help you win, and I think that right now in the landscape of what Pat Kelsey wants his teams to be and to become that skill is arguably one of the most valuable that you can have. 33:35.704 --> 33:46.270 [SPEAKER_01]: So, all that to say, thank you for watching, starting 502 podcasts, Jacob Lane, Ryan Keeling, subscribe to the state of Little Podcast Network, right here on our YouTube channel, 33:46.590 --> 34:03.174 [SPEAKER_01]: Check out 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