Full Transcript for Sam Tripoli Comedy and Conspiracy

bring him on. Sam Tripoli. 38 00:02:29.020 --> 00:02:30.259 I'm here, brother. 39 00:02:30.340 --> 00:02:33.340 Thank you for that wonderful intro. And, you know, yes, 40 00:02:33.379 --> 00:02:36.560 my special's out, but your special's out too. So I'm 41 00:02:36.620 --> 00:02:40.099 super excited to watch that. Congratulations. I know it's been 42 00:02:40.150 --> 00:02:43.789 a nice journey for you, and you shot the Ice House, 43 00:02:43.810 --> 00:02:44.870 one of my favorite clubs. 44 00:02:44.930 --> 00:02:46.750 Love that club. Congrats on that, dude. 45 00:02:47.629 --> 00:02:49.449 Listen, I meant what I said. 46 00:02:49.490 --> 00:02:52.669 You, I think, are probably the most interesting guy in 47 00:02:52.689 --> 00:02:55.009 stand-up comedy. 48 00:02:55.030 --> 00:02:55.889 Thank you, buddy. 49 00:02:56.250 --> 00:03:00.849 Anytime anyone tells me they've figured Sam Tripoli out, I say. 50 00:03:01.099 --> 00:03:02.080 Keep figuring. 51 00:03:02.599 --> 00:03:03.639 I'm an enigma. 52 00:03:03.860 --> 00:03:06.520 It's like a Rubik's Cube. You ain't going to make 53 00:03:06.599 --> 00:03:09.159 it work, okay? 54 00:03:09.599 --> 00:03:12.479 And that's one of the reasons why I just think 55 00:03:12.520 --> 00:03:14.000 you're so great. 56 00:03:14.849 --> 00:03:15.930 Right back at you. 57 00:03:16.009 --> 00:03:16.729 So need it. 58 00:03:17.699 --> 00:03:21.719 I mean, all kidding aside, how many podcasts do you have? 59 00:03:22.340 --> 00:03:24.419 I was talking to somebody yesterday. 60 00:03:24.439 --> 00:03:30.979 I have probably five active podcasts, one that I do 61 00:03:31.139 --> 00:03:34.360 once in a while. Then I have like three premium 62 00:03:34.460 --> 00:03:38.259 content episodes I do a week. So I'm basically doing 63 00:03:38.300 --> 00:03:39.919 about eight episodes a week. 64 00:03:41.750 --> 00:03:42.759 That's full-time work. 65 00:03:43.810 --> 00:03:46.669 Yeah, you know, well, buddy, the truth is I'm a 66 00:03:46.689 --> 00:03:50.490 crazy person. And, you know, there's an old saying in recovery, 67 00:03:50.509 --> 00:03:53.300 you can't hit a moving target. So I got to 68 00:03:53.340 --> 00:03:57.520 keep busy or else the demons come dancing. So I 69 00:03:57.560 --> 00:04:00.870 just feel like what really with podcasting, what I've done 70 00:04:00.949 --> 00:04:02.849 is monetize my mental illness. 71 00:04:03.349 --> 00:04:03.669 Yeah. 72 00:04:04.620 --> 00:04:07.629 If I, if I wasn't podcasting, I would just be 73 00:04:07.669 --> 00:04:11.330 talking to myself the whole time. So, uh, I just said, 74 00:04:11.509 --> 00:04:13.389 you know, I'm going to talk to myself. Might as 75 00:04:13.409 --> 00:04:15.719 well throw a camera and a microphone in front of me. 76 00:04:16.180 --> 00:04:19.160 And, and just not, I don't want to get too 77 00:04:19.199 --> 00:04:22.470 much into it, but in terms of production, have you, 78 00:04:22.930 --> 00:04:24.829 Do you have a studio? Do you have someone

that 79 00:04:24.850 --> 00:04:26.930 you do it with or how do you do it all? 80 00:04:27.490 --> 00:04:30.350 I technically have three studios. One is currently not being 81 00:04:30.430 --> 00:04:33.209 used in Hollywood. And I literally might just keep it around. 82 00:04:33.269 --> 00:04:35.569 So I have someone to take a shit in Hollywood, like, 83 00:04:36.709 --> 00:04:39.379 cause they locked down these bathrooms because of these junkies. 84 00:04:39.620 --> 00:04:41.420 So they don't let you use the public bathroom. So 85 00:04:41.459 --> 00:04:44.019 I literally pay for a studio, just have somewhere if, 86 00:04:44.540 --> 00:04:45.579 if it's an emergency. 87 00:04:45.939 --> 00:04:48.259 Hey, I know exactly what you mean. Just the parentheses. 88 00:04:48.699 --> 00:04:53.399 I will be in West L.A., and drive back home 89 00:04:53.779 --> 00:04:57.089 to santa monica just to take a shit okay because 90 00:04:57.129 --> 00:04:59.269 not only will they not let you use it the 91 00:04:59.370 --> 00:05:01.410 ones that will you want nothing to do with. 92 00:05:01.310 --> 00:05:03.490 Them you want nothing to do with it and like 93 00:05:03.670 --> 00:05:05.949 one of my biggest fears in the world is clogging 94 00:05:05.980 --> 00:05:09.480 a toilet in public and i almost did that i 95 00:05:09.519 --> 00:05:12.079 was in lawrence kansas and like i was with my 96 00:05:12.139 --> 00:05:16.779 raiders hat on in chief's territory so like Everywhere I walk, 97 00:05:16.800 --> 00:05:18.629 people would just stare at me and then I go 98 00:05:18.709 --> 00:05:21.829 use the bathroom and it's clogged. I claw, it wasn't 99 00:05:21.910 --> 00:05:23.649 even like I'm a dad, so I know how to 100 00:05:23.689 --> 00:05:26.939 destroy a toilet and it, uh, wasn't even that bad. 101 00:05:27.000 --> 00:05:30.480 I'm violently like trying to unplug this toilet. 102 00:05:30.500 --> 00:05:33.839 Cause I'm representing my people. the Raiders and I just 103 00:05:33.879 --> 00:05:35.899 couldn't do it. And they're just knocking on the door. 104 00:05:36.240 --> 00:05:38.420 What's going on. And I opened the door. It's the 105 00:05:38.459 --> 00:05:40.879 hottest chick that works there. And I just ran out 106 00:05:40.920 --> 00:05:42.860 of that place. So that's why I have to have 107 00:05:42.899 --> 00:05:43.779 my own bathroom. 108 00:05:44.199 --> 00:05:44.519 Okay. 109 00:05:44.579 --> 00:05:48.620 So, so you have three studios and, and do you 110 00:05:48.639 --> 00:05:51.339 have like, okay, this day is tinfoil hat. 111 00:05:51.459 --> 00:05:53.079 This day is cash daddy. 112 00:05:53.120 --> 00:05:54.040 Yeah. 113 00:05:54.339 --> 00:05:57.079 Well, technically, if you think about the studio I'm in 114 00:05:57.120 --> 00:05:58.930 right now is in my house. So this would be 115 00:05:58.959 --> 00:06:01.550 a fourth one. So I have a, I live in 116 00:06:01.569 --> 00:06:05.579 the Valley. I live in a house, and there was 117 00:06:05.600 --> 00:06:08.100 an ADU next to it that two lesbians lived in, 118 00:06:08.579 --> 00:06:10.459 and then they decided to move out, so we took 119 00:06:10.500 --> 00:06:10.879 it over. 120 00:06:10.899 --> 00:06:13.259 And we're still trying to get rid of the smell 121 00:06:13.300 --> 00:06:14.959 of cat in there, and I'm not even lying. 122 00:06:15.379 --> 00:06:18.550 So we took that over, so I turned it downstairs 123 00:06:18.620 --> 00:06:22.110 into Tim Fall Hat Studio, and then the upstairs into 124 00:06:22.990 --> 00:06:25.569 my Conspiracy Social Club. 125 00:06:26.209 --> 00:06:27.129 And then here I do. 126 00:06:28.060 --> 00:06:34.209 Broken Sim, I do Doom Scrolling, Cash Daddies, and occasionally 127 00:06:34.970 --> 00:06:35.910 Punch Drunk Sports. 128 00:06:36.730 --> 00:06:39.329 Have you ever totaled up how many hours a week 129 00:06:39.449 --> 00:06:41.870 it takes you to do all the podcasts? 130 00:06:43.230 --> 00:06:47.680 I would say most of the podcasts are an hour 131 00:06:47.709 --> 00:06:48.180 and a half. 132 00:06:49.560 --> 00:06:51.420 The premium content is an hour. 133 00:06:52.180 --> 00:06:55.379 So if you got five shows in an hour and 134 00:06:55.399 --> 00:06:59.639 a half, That is eight hours right there. 135 00:07:00.170 --> 00:07:03.189 And then you had the three hours, so about 11 hours. 136 00:07:04.490 --> 00:07:07.850 Okay, but what about the uploading and the editing and 137 00:07:07.889 --> 00:07:09.670 all that? You have someone that does all that for you? 138 00:07:09.730 --> 00:07:14.069 Well, yeah, I mean, most of it, I don't, I mean, like, 139 00:07:14.449 --> 00:07:17.899 Tim Fuller had Johnny edits it. Dylan edited CSC, and 140 00:07:17.920 --> 00:07:20.089 then everything just goes up warts and all. 141 00:07:20.209 --> 00:07:21.269 Like, whatever mess up. 142 00:07:21.569 --> 00:07:25.449 Like, we were doing a podcast last Saturday, and our buddy, 143 00:07:25.470 --> 00:07:28.439 one of the guys on the show, was at an Airbnb. 144 00:07:28.459 --> 00:07:30.740 He got an Airbnb, and it turned out to be 145 00:07:30.819 --> 00:07:32.560 right in the middle of the hood. And he went 146 00:07:32.600 --> 00:07:35.060 there with his family. And it was a Dave Chappelle 147 00:07:35.079 --> 00:07:39.610 block party was going on. And he had like Atari 148 00:07:39.639 --> 00:07:43.670 graphic Wi-Fi. And it went 11 minutes to podcast. And 149 00:07:43.709 --> 00:07:46.009 we still just put it out. And it was our 150 00:07:46.029 --> 00:07:47.769 most popular podcast so far. 151 00:07:48.029 --> 00:07:48.850 That's interesting. 152 00:07:49.389 --> 00:07:51.170 Flaws and all, dog. 153 00:07:51.649 --> 00:07:52.829 So let me ask you. 154 00:07:54.290 --> 00:07:56.449 Because I really want to break down some of the 155 00:07:56.490 --> 00:08:00.050 conspiracy stuff with you. But I have something else I'm 156 00:08:00.089 --> 00:08:06.220 curious about. Does it, all the podcasting must really help 157

00:08:06.259 --> 00:08:08.889 you going out to do live shows, right? 158 00:08:09.449 --> 00:08:13.050 Yeah, I mean, I started one of my podcasts called 159 00:08:13.069 --> 00:08:17.629 Broken Simulation. I started it specifically because the comedy clubs 160 00:08:17.670 --> 00:08:20.610 were closed. So I just need a place to write. 161 00:08:20.689 --> 00:08:24.139 So I just use it as a place to format 162 00:08:24.220 --> 00:08:27.120 the joke. And if my host laughed, I knew I 163 00:08:27.180 --> 00:08:29.560 had something. And I've been doing it so long, I 164 00:08:29.600 --> 00:08:32.840 know how to trim the fat and present it. So, yeah, 165 00:08:32.899 --> 00:08:38.909 I'm constantly mining something I riff on. I'll bring it 166 00:08:38.950 --> 00:08:41.330 to the stage, you know, and I've been blessed. Like I, 167 00:08:41.490 --> 00:08:45.529 I just shot the special. If I really wanted to, 168 00:08:45.629 --> 00:08:47.889 I could shoot another special right now if I really 169 00:08:47.960 --> 00:08:50.299 wanted to, but you know, I think it takes about 170 00:08:50.360 --> 00:08:53.399 two years to really fine tune a special before you 171 00:08:53.419 --> 00:08:53.940 put it out. 172 00:08:54.000 --> 00:08:56.059 But you know, I've had. 173 00:08:56.200 --> 00:08:58.539 Haven't you done like seven or eight specials already? 174 00:08:59.210 --> 00:09:02.490 I put out, I think this was just number five. 175 00:09:02.570 --> 00:09:03.710 I could do number six. 176 00:09:04.169 --> 00:09:05.309 Oh really? Yeah. 177 00:09:06.379 --> 00:09:10.340 I started late shooting specials because the idea of producing 178 00:09:10.360 --> 00:09:13.899 your own special wasn't a thing at that time. So 179 00:09:13.940 --> 00:09:16.419 you just were waiting for someone to green light your 180 00:09:16.440 --> 00:09:17.259 special and. 181 00:09:17.139 --> 00:09:18.200 Nobody was doing it. 182 00:09:18.970 --> 00:09:22.250 And then I'm blessed that my girlfriend Dana is one 183 00:09:22.269 --> 00:09:25.809 of the best producers out there. She's been producing high-end stuff. 184 00:09:26.299 --> 00:09:30.809 like videos and docs and commercials. And she's, she's, she 185 00:09:30.830 --> 00:09:33.549 shot a bunch of three of my specials. 186 00:09:33.610 --> 00:09:37.190 So, well, I know that one you did up at the, uh, 187 00:09:37.289 --> 00:09:40.360 what's that club on Hollywood Boulevard, the Viper room. 188 00:09:41.009 --> 00:09:44.059 No, no. Up on, on Hollywood. 189 00:09:44.159 --> 00:09:46.519 It's something in a space. I think it's called. 190 00:09:47.379 --> 00:09:50.299 No, no. But you shot your special there. 191 00:09:50.320 --> 00:09:53.379 And I know that Dana, uh, produced it and I 192 00:09:53.440 --> 00:09:55.620 loved the look that you guys did with the stage 193 00:09:55.620 --> 00:09:58.220 and everything. and the whole thing was just it was 194 00:09:58.240 --> 00:10:01.279 i i believe that was the no lives matter. 195 00:10:00.919 --> 00:10:04.399 No lives matter was in texas and i shot it 196 00:10:04.460 --> 00:10:07.700 on iphones because i wanted to look like underground and 197 00:10:07.740 --> 00:10:11.580 then i shot uh why why is it why is 198 00:10:11.620 --> 00:10:14.370 everybody quiet um and. 199 00:10:14.269 --> 00:10:17.769 That that that was the one right yeah yeah what 200 00:10:18.539 --> 00:10:20.279 And what's the name of that club? 201 00:10:20.299 --> 00:10:21.039 The Bourbon Room. 202 00:10:21.940 --> 00:10:24.360 Yes, you got it. The Bourbon Room. There you go. 203 00:10:24.379 --> 00:10:27.279 I was proud that my first special was shot at 204 00:10:27.320 --> 00:10:31.340 the Viper Room. And nobody has ever shot a special 205 00:10:31.919 --> 00:10:34.460 at the Viper Room, which is the perfect size for 206 00:10:34.519 --> 00:10:35.480 a comedy special. 207 00:10:35.519 --> 00:10:36.879 You can put 100 people in there. 208 00:10:37.740 --> 00:10:40.240 So I was very proud of that. The Viper Room's 209 00:10:40.279 --> 00:10:42.059 a very legendary spot. 210 00:10:42.100 --> 00:10:44.730 But let's go to the... Stay with the podcast for 211 00:10:44.750 --> 00:10:45.899 a second, because.... 212 00:10:48.419 --> 00:10:53.320 I think you're the conspiracy guy. And I'm curious, number one, 213 00:10:54.000 --> 00:10:59.320 is how do you decide if something's a conspiracy or 214 00:10:59.379 --> 00:11:06.000 just a theory? Explain your whole basis of the conspiracy world. 215 00:11:06.899 --> 00:11:10.940 Well, you know, my father is a wonderful man. 216 00:11:11.000 --> 00:11:12.279 I'm blessed he's still with us. 217 00:11:12.659 --> 00:11:16.389 And he was a flawed man. And I always say 218 00:11:16.450 --> 00:11:18.870 that's a blessing for me because it showed me what 219 00:11:18.909 --> 00:11:21.149 I was going to become. But one thing that my 220 00:11:21.210 --> 00:11:24.919 father did was taught me to not believe anything I 221 00:11:24.960 --> 00:11:26.899 hear and half of what I see. And now with AI, 222 00:11:26.919 --> 00:11:29.000 you can't even believe what you see at this point. 223 00:11:29.059 --> 00:11:30.100 So he always. 224 00:11:29.960 --> 00:11:34.519 Raised me kind of paranoid. And I just remember, I 225 00:11:35.200 --> 00:11:38.240 remember the one time that like people always ask me, like, 226 00:11:38.279 --> 00:11:41.279 what's the first conspiracy that I remember? I always say 227 00:11:41.330 --> 00:11:44.149 it's Santa Claus. You know, Santa Claus is a giant 228 00:11:44.190 --> 00:11:45.289 blackmailing scheme. 229 00:11:45.370 --> 00:11:45.590 Right. 230 00:11:45.970 --> 00:11:49.029 But then the next one was when I don't know 231 00:11:49.250 --> 00:11:51.909 how big of a pro wrestler you are, how much 232 00:11:51.950 --> 00:11:54.470 you love pro wrestling. But there was a time when 233 00:11:54.529 --> 00:11:57.610 pro wrestling was my life. I loved watching it during 234 00:11:57.629 --> 00:12:00.909

the heydays. And one time the Iron Sheik got busted 235 00:12:00.950 --> 00:12:04.129 with Hacksaw Jim Duggan in the car drunk. And it 236 00:12:04.149 --> 00:12:06.909 like shattered my world. I was like, you guys are 237 00:12:06.929 --> 00:12:08.789 supposed to hate each other. You guys want to kill 238 00:12:08.809 --> 00:12:10.220 each other in the ring. Now you're drunk in a 239 00:12:10.240 --> 00:12:14.139 car together. And that's when I discovered K-Fab, right? So 240 00:12:14.759 --> 00:12:17.759 fast forward to college. You know, the first president I've 241 00:12:17.799 --> 00:12:20.100 ever seen live in my life was Bill Clinton. 242 00:12:20.120 --> 00:12:22.639 He was running for president. And it was a big moment. 243 00:12:22.679 --> 00:12:24.350 And a buddy of mine who would later become a 244 00:12:24.389 --> 00:12:27.259 roommate of mine showed up with a sign to protest him. 245 00:12:27.789 --> 00:12:30.389 Bill Clinton and secret service just took it right down. 246 00:12:30.409 --> 00:12:32.210 I go, I thought we had free speech here. So 247 00:12:32.570 --> 00:12:36.409 I started questioning stuff. And then later on, Bill Clinton 248 00:12:36.570 --> 00:12:42.039 was pictured with Trent Lott, Newt Gingrich, and, um, and 249 00:12:42.299 --> 00:12:45.480 one of the senators out of Orrin Hatch out of, uh, 250 00:12:46.200 --> 00:12:48.500 out of, uh, Utah. And I remember they, they were 251 00:12:48.519 --> 00:12:51.659 all taking a picture cause Trent Lott was getting his, his, 252 00:12:52.179 --> 00:12:55.539 his portrait up in, in the, uh, the, uh, the 253 00:12:55.580 --> 00:12:59.139 library of Congress. And I go, these guys hate it. 254 00:12:59.419 --> 00:13:01.240 I thought you guys hated each other. You tried to get, 255 00:13:01.639 --> 00:13:04.139 kick Bill Clinton. They're all laughing together. And that's when 256 00:13:04.179 --> 00:13:06.399 I kind of go, Oh dude, this is K fab again. 257 00:13:06.480 --> 00:13:09.480 So it's always been that. And what happened was I 258 00:13:10.080 --> 00:13:12.480 had a podcast I was doing for a long time 259 00:13:12.519 --> 00:13:13.620 that just ran its course. 260 00:13:13.639 --> 00:13:14.370 So we stopped it. 261 00:13:14.720 --> 00:13:16.720 Then I started doing a podcast with another buddy of 262 00:13:16.759 --> 00:13:19.259 mine and I was still using at the time and 263 00:13:19.299 --> 00:13:20.779 I probably didn't handle it. Great. 264 00:13:20.830 --> 00:13:22.179 We had a big falling out. 265 00:13:22.909 --> 00:13:25.750 And I was just kind of wandering on what would 266 00:13:25.789 --> 00:13:29.289 be my next podcast because I was blessed at the time. 267 00:13:30.029 --> 00:13:32.009 Before that, I was part of the Death Squad, this 268 00:13:32.080 --> 00:13:35.299 legendary podcasting channel. 269 00:13:35.879 --> 00:13:37.620 And I needed a podcast. 270 00:13:37.720 --> 00:13:40.299 And right around then, it was the Bernie Sanders, Hillary 271 00:13:40.340 --> 00:13:44.059 Clinton thing going on where Hillary Clinton kneecaps Bernie Sanders. 272 00:13:44.139 --> 00:13:46.659 And I'm just talking conspiracies to everybody. I'm like, I 273 00:13:46.700 --> 00:13:49.259 should do a conspiracy podcast. And I just wanted to 274 00:13:49.299 --> 00:13:53.850 do a podcast talking to other... other other comedians about 275 00:13:53.909 --> 00:13:56.460 conspiracies then it came a real thing so so the 276 00:13:56.500 --> 00:14:00.960 point of that long explanation is that once you start 277 00:14:01.019 --> 00:14:06.299 doing this long enough you start understanding playbooks and psyops 278 00:14:06.399 --> 00:14:09.509 and high impact events you start to see the the 279 00:14:09.610 --> 00:14:12.870 the the the markings of one that's going on so 280 00:14:12.909 --> 00:14:15.409 you start to go hey i think this might be 281 00:14:15.490 --> 00:14:18.549 something And I'm going to say something a little crazy. 282 00:14:18.580 --> 00:14:22.700 I come from psychics. My grandmother was a psychic. My 283 00:14:22.799 --> 00:14:25.720 cousin's a psychic. We have a baby in our family. 284 00:14:25.759 --> 00:14:28.919 My other cousin told me she was told by another 285 00:14:28.960 --> 00:14:30.750 psychic that our baby sees dead people. 286 00:14:31.029 --> 00:14:33.299 But the point of that is, is that I. 287 00:14:34.740 --> 00:14:36.700 I kind of like the whole thing is like I 288 00:14:36.720 --> 00:14:39.250 get a data comes in like this event and it 289 00:14:39.259 --> 00:14:41.389 kind of plays out my head. And that's why I 290 00:14:41.450 --> 00:14:44.370 talk about, you know, in, in December, on December 13th, 291 00:14:44.409 --> 00:14:48.929 my show will be 10 years old. And I, if I, 292 00:14:49.129 --> 00:14:51.110 if I, if I was wrong all the time or 293 00:14:51.169 --> 00:14:52.990 most of the time, I wouldn't have a show anymore. 294 00:14:54.289 --> 00:14:57.139 Well, let me ask you, that's really an interesting thing. 295 00:14:57.240 --> 00:15:02.500 You know, at what point does a conspiracy not become 296 00:15:02.519 --> 00:15:06.200 a conspiracy anymore when it's, proven true or does it 297 00:15:06.279 --> 00:15:09.980 always just stay a conspiracy because you can't convince everybody. 298 00:15:10.090 --> 00:15:13.490 Well it will always be a conspiracy as long as 299 00:15:13.830 --> 00:15:17.690 the word conspiracy and the term conspiracy theorist still has 300 00:15:17.789 --> 00:15:20.370 stigma on it which you know the whole history of 301 00:15:20.389 --> 00:15:24.610 the conspiracy the term conspiracy theory comes from the cia 302 00:15:24.690 --> 00:15:27.929 and the government want to gaslight everybody who questioned jfk 303 00:15:27.970 --> 00:15:28.590 that's where. 304 00:15:28.470 --> 00:15:30.590 We talked about that on the last time you were 305 00:15:30.649 --> 00:15:34.139 on there yeah and that's absolutely true For those of 306 00:15:34.159 -->

00:15:37.879 you who don't know what he's talking about, right after 307 00:15:37.970 --> 00:15:43.769 JFK's assassination, the CIA basically came up with that conspiracy 308 00:15:43.870 --> 00:15:47.590 theory idea so they could just back down anyone that 309 00:15:47.669 --> 00:15:53.350 said anything that didn't work for their story. But that's 310 00:15:53.409 --> 00:15:57.730 a great example. I've grown up obsessed with that, the 311 00:15:57.789 --> 00:16:02.779 JFK assassination. And the fact is, I think time has 312 00:16:02.860 --> 00:16:05.379 proven that the CIA killed JFK. 313 00:16:05.860 --> 00:16:08.620 Can I tell you the craziest thing about JFK? 314 00:16:08.710 --> 00:16:10.710 It's not a conspiracy theory anymore. 315 00:16:12.009 --> 00:16:15.710 I've heard a crazy conspiracy that NASA was a big 316 00:16:15.789 --> 00:16:20.769 part of the assassination of JFK. I've had this wonderful 317 00:16:21.029 --> 00:16:23.649 journalist on called The Dark Journalist, and he broke on 318 00:16:23.700 --> 00:16:27.320 that a big part of NASA was the bring over 319 00:16:27.360 --> 00:16:31.070 of Nazis in Project Paperclip. and they were brought over, 320 00:16:31.110 --> 00:16:33.809 and what JFK wanted to do was to reach out 321 00:16:33.830 --> 00:16:38.690 to the Russians to have kind of an olive branch, 322 00:16:39.250 --> 00:16:42.500 because they had all these things that they were creating, 323 00:16:42.549 --> 00:16:46.820 and he wanted them to know it wasn't a nuclear plane, 324 00:16:46.840 --> 00:16:49.679 it didn't have a nuclear bomb on it, what these 325 00:16:49.759 --> 00:16:52.539 things may actually be. And because there were so many 326 00:16:52.620 --> 00:16:55.429 Nazis in NASA at the time, they did not like 327 00:16:55.490 --> 00:16:57.509 that he was reaching out to. 328 00:16:59.330 --> 00:17:02.549 So, dude, it gets really crazy. Yeah, I don't believe 329 00:17:02.590 --> 00:17:02.950 that one. 330 00:17:03.429 --> 00:17:07.250 I've actually come to truly believe, and I think it's 331 00:17:07.309 --> 00:17:11.349 the truth, that the CIA, that Kennedy was going to 332 00:17:11.529 --> 00:17:13.849 take down the CIA. You know, there's talk all of 333 00:17:13.869 --> 00:17:18.650 a sudden today about taking down the FBI and starting over, 334 00:17:19.190 --> 00:17:21.880 you know, because people don't trust him. But there was 335 00:17:21.930 --> 00:17:26.779 a moment where, and JFK was the president, and if 336 00:17:26.859 --> 00:17:32.089 he was reelected, He was going to just completely start 337 00:17:32.190 --> 00:17:34.650 over and take the whole and fire everybody. 338 00:17:35.109 --> 00:17:35.829 And they knew that. 339 00:17:37.450 --> 00:17:38.670 Yeah. Yeah. 340 00:17:38.670 --> 00:17:38.730 100. 341 00:17:38.710 --> 00:17:41.019 It wasn't just that. He also wanted to take down 342 00:17:41.039 --> 00:17:44.700 the Federal Reserve. And, you know, you're like you're dancing 343 00:17:44.740 -->

00:17:46.799 with very dangerous people. And then he kind of went 344 00:17:46.839 --> 00:17:52.200 back on his his kind of deal with the mob. 345 00:17:52.859 --> 00:17:56.509 And that that's a bad group of people. to be 346 00:17:56.589 --> 00:18:00.250 messing with, to want to be, you know, so yeah, 347 00:18:00.369 --> 00:18:03.210 he got set. It's a very interesting thing. There's, there's 348 00:18:03.269 --> 00:18:06.759 so much I've learned about the JFK assassination. 349 00:18:06.339 --> 00:18:09.019 In terms of also who's in the plaza. 350 00:18:09.119 --> 00:18:11.859 It was, I always say that JFK was like those 351 00:18:11.900 --> 00:18:15.670 scenes in a John Wick movie. where the hit gets 352 00:18:16.049 --> 00:18:19.509 called out on John Wick and then everyone in the area, 353 00:18:19.829 --> 00:18:23.210 phones go off because they're all assassins. They were calling 354 00:18:23.279 --> 00:18:25.779 in Latin American death squads to be a part of it. 355 00:18:26.099 --> 00:18:28.660 I always say that he was never going to get 356 00:18:28.759 --> 00:18:32.900 out of there. They had layer after layer ready to 357 00:18:32.960 --> 00:18:35.140 make sure that it got completed. 358 00:18:36.299 --> 00:18:39.829 Yeah, and my biggest thing has always been, and we 359 00:18:39.849 --> 00:18:43.990 can move on from JFK, but if you're Lee Harvey Oswald, 360 00:18:44.029 --> 00:18:46.130 and you are really going to try to kill the 361 00:18:46.170 --> 00:18:48.390 president and you planned it and you set it up 362 00:18:49.150 --> 00:18:50.670 and you finally get arrested. 363 00:18:52.269 --> 00:18:54.529 You don't go, I'm a patsy. I'm a patsy. You 364 00:18:54.569 --> 00:18:57.250 don't you're not thinking about getting out of it. You're thinking, hey, 365 00:18:57.289 --> 00:18:58.190 I made a statement. 366 00:18:58.539 --> 00:18:59.690 I did it. Right. 367 00:18:59.710 --> 00:18:59.950 Yes. 368 00:19:00.619 --> 00:19:03.420 And that to me, I always thought the fact that 369 00:19:03.480 --> 00:19:06.720 he just the minute they put a camera in front 370 00:19:06.740 --> 00:19:08.059 of his face said, I'm a patsy. 371 00:19:08.140 --> 00:19:09.559 This I had nothing to do with this. 372 00:19:10.529 --> 00:19:11.869 I'll go one farther, dude. 373 00:19:12.230 --> 00:19:15.109 You don't assassinate the president, then go watch a movie. 374 00:19:16.289 --> 00:19:17.250 That's where they brought him in. 375 00:19:17.650 --> 00:19:20.529 Well, he was hiding in the theater. He was hiding. 376 00:19:20.609 --> 00:19:23.599 I mean, like, it just sounds very weird to me. 377 00:19:23.630 --> 00:19:26.680 It doesn't sound like, you know, a friend of mine 378 00:19:26.720 --> 00:19:32.740 named Greg Carlwood, he's been doing a conspiracy podcast called 379 00:19:32.759 --> 00:19:35.259 the Higher Side Chats even longer than I have. And 380 00:19:35.279 --> 00:19:37.980 he always goes, when there's an exception to the norm, 381 00:19:38.519 --> 00:19:40.160 that's when you start to ask questions. 382 00:19:41.259 --> 00:19:41.460 All right. 383 00:19:41.480 --> 00:19:43.440 What do you think, if you had to say, what 384 00:19:43.500 --> 00:19:47.859 is the most interesting new conspiracy theory that you think 385 00:19:47.900 --> 00:19:49.759 is going to really land on them? 386 00:19:50.160 --> 00:19:51.859 Major societal level? 387 00:19:54.059 --> 00:19:57.220 Well, I mean, I don't know if it's a new one, 388 00:19:57.329 --> 00:20:00.769 but there seems to be rolling out this reptilian stuff. 389 00:20:00.809 --> 00:20:02.369 And I know that sounds really. 390 00:20:02.170 --> 00:20:07.259 Nuts, but these... these people are starting to look weirder 391 00:20:07.539 --> 00:20:10.930 and weirder, dude. I mean, like this one woman. 392 00:20:10.970 --> 00:20:14.109 Well, they're using the local bathrooms is the reason for that. 393 00:20:14.589 --> 00:20:17.829 I mean, it's, it's very like they had one where 394 00:20:17.869 --> 00:20:20.809 this very tall woman with the most unusual neck I've 395 00:20:20.869 --> 00:20:23.450 ever seen is talking as she's walking on all it's 396 00:20:23.509 --> 00:20:25.349 getting weirder and weirder. 397 00:20:25.470 --> 00:20:26.730 And I think some. 398 00:20:26.589 --> 00:20:30.789 People, Sam, Sam, have you seen the woman married to 399 00:20:30.829 --> 00:20:33.319 that guy? Really, really rich guy. 400 00:20:33.940 --> 00:20:34.680 Yeah, Adele. 401 00:20:34.720 --> 00:20:38.569 Mary Adele, when she stands behind Trump sometimes, I think 402 00:20:38.710 --> 00:20:40.170 she's talking to the aliens. 403 00:20:40.630 --> 00:20:41.680 There's something going on with that one. 404 00:20:41.690 --> 00:20:42.470 I mean, there's something there. 405 00:20:42.529 --> 00:20:45.529 There's the tall lady I'm talking about, long neck. And 406 00:20:45.569 --> 00:20:48.150 then there's the woman with the weird head. And someone 407 00:20:48.170 --> 00:20:51.730 did a funny graphic where they kind of, through animation, 408 00:20:51.829 --> 00:20:52.529 sliced her head. 409 00:20:52.549 --> 00:20:54.450 And it looks like an alien head. It's like. 410 00:20:55.069 --> 00:20:56.930 I think it's all starting to come out, dude. 411 00:20:57.029 --> 00:20:58.779 I think we're dealing with sorcery, dude. 412 00:20:58.819 --> 00:21:01.680 And everyone thinks I'm a crazy person, but at the 413 00:21:01.720 --> 00:21:03.220 top is really sorcery. 414 00:21:03.599 --> 00:21:05.680 And that's, that's what I think. 415 00:21:05.700 --> 00:21:07.799 Bring it back down to earth. Bring it back down 416 00:21:07.819 --> 00:21:10.880 to earth for a second. I mean, like, like to me. 417 00:21:13.960 --> 00:21:16.180 This is how it goes every show, dude. 418 00:21:16.369 --> 00:21:17.869 Okay, pull it back, dude. 419 00:21:17.940 --> 00:21:20.309 All right, all right. Okay, reel it in. 420 00:21:20.529 --> 00:21:28.250 But to me, the Russia thing was a conspiracy

theory. 421 00:21:28.549 --> 00:21:33.789 Are you talking Russiagate or the fake Russian plague that 422 00:21:33.829 --> 00:21:34.750 just came out there? 423 00:21:34.829 --> 00:21:39.329 No, Russiagate. Russiagate was to me just a big... It's crazy. 424 00:21:39.349 --> 00:21:42.390 I don't know. I think that's been proven. I call it. 425 00:21:42.329 --> 00:21:43.349 Worse than Watergate. 426 00:21:43.670 --> 00:21:48.160 Mike, I think it's the worst in Watergate because Obama Clinton, 427 00:21:48.220 --> 00:21:51.619 John Brennan wanted to unseat an elected president. 428 00:21:51.980 --> 00:21:54.980 Yes. It's way worse. And I even get into Watergate. 429 00:21:55.029 --> 00:21:57.200 The Watergate wasn't even what they told us, but it 430 00:21:57.220 --> 00:22:01.549 was literally a front, a smokescreen for that. They were 431 00:22:01.809 --> 00:22:05.289 basically politicians were yapping to escorts that were giving away 432 00:22:05.329 --> 00:22:08.569 all the secrets. So, but Russiagate is 10 times worse. 433 00:22:08.789 --> 00:22:12.950 And I remember I went on Jimmy Dore's show many years, 434 00:22:13.269 --> 00:22:16.029 like I would say before everyone really started to understand 435 00:22:16.069 --> 00:22:19.150 Russiagate and we were talking about it. And They planted 436 00:22:19.430 --> 00:22:24.339 Carter Page, who's on Trump's transition team. He was the 437 00:22:24.440 --> 00:22:26.819 one that got them to be able to get all 438 00:22:26.839 --> 00:22:27.980 the Pfizer warrants. 439 00:22:28.119 --> 00:22:28.880 Of course. 440 00:22:31.279 --> 00:22:33.140 Even though there was no real path to get there, 441 00:22:33.500 --> 00:22:35.660 with the belief that if they got out Trump, they 442 00:22:35.680 --> 00:22:39.609 would install Hillary Clinton. 443 00:22:39.789 --> 00:22:42.490 Okay, I totally agree with that, and I think you're right. 444 00:22:42.529 --> 00:22:43.609 It is worse than Watergate. 445 00:22:43.930 --> 00:22:47.200 There's a new one that's It's been bubbling for a 446 00:22:47.220 --> 00:22:49.220 long time, but I think you're going to see it 447 00:22:49.299 --> 00:22:53.730 turn into about five episodes for each of your podcasts. 448 00:22:54.930 --> 00:23:00.049 And that's when they start to deport Ilhan Omar. You know, 449 00:23:00.069 --> 00:23:04.630 I think there's going to be so many crazy angles 450 00:23:04.730 --> 00:23:05.829 on that one, you know. 451 00:23:07.160 --> 00:23:09.720 I've seen some people on the right push back against 452 00:23:09.769 --> 00:23:12.809 that whole thing under the understand that this is political warfare, 453 00:23:12.890 --> 00:23:16.289 but I go, is she, is she doing something illegal? 454 00:23:16.369 --> 00:23:18.309 If the answer is yes, what are you supposed to 455 00:23:18.349 --> 00:23:19.069 do about that? 456 00:23:19.410 --> 00:23:22.569 And if your theory is that if they take away Omar, 457 00:23:22.829 --> 00:23:25.390 then they're going to start doing it to Republicans. But 458 00:23:25.430 --> 00:23:28.369 I'm like, if Republicans are doing something illegal, get rid 459 00:23:28.390 --> 00:23:29.289 of them fucking too. 460 00:23:29.670 --> 00:23:30.349 Like absolutely. 461 00:23:30.650 --> 00:23:31.269 Absolutely. 462 00:23:31.329 --> 00:23:33.750 Law dude. We need to have rule of law. 463 00:23:34.130 --> 00:23:36.519 We, you know, I was walking though last night with a, 464 00:23:36.990 --> 00:23:40.200 a staunch Democrat, good friend of mine who we don't 465 00:23:40.440 --> 00:23:45.779 agree with on anything, you know? And he said, if 466 00:23:45.859 --> 00:23:48.700 she broke, if she came here illegally, get her out 467 00:23:48.720 --> 00:23:49.220 of the country. 468 00:23:49.279 --> 00:23:52.779 She hates the country. You know, she hates the country. Why? 469 00:23:52.980 --> 00:23:55.240 And how can you be here if you hate the country? And, 470 00:23:56.140 --> 00:24:00.380 and this guy is such a big, I was so surprised. 471 00:24:01.150 --> 00:24:04.619 And I said, maybe don't deport her. Just make her 472 00:24:04.660 --> 00:24:06.680 walk around without her headgear on. 473 00:24:07.160 --> 00:24:10.200 That would be hilarious. She has an alien skull too. 474 00:24:10.519 --> 00:24:13.599 Yes, that's the punishment. You can stay here. You can 475 00:24:13.660 --> 00:24:18.930 stay in Congress. You can't wear the headscarf. When you 476 00:24:18.970 --> 00:24:22.170 need to be sympathetic, it's a really nice little Muslim one. 477 00:24:22.210 --> 00:24:25.690 And when you're swish in your butt. You, you can't 478 00:24:25.730 --> 00:24:30.180 wear a little fancy turban that was bought at Neiman Marcus. 479 00:24:30.559 --> 00:24:32.380 I agree. I agree. 480 00:24:32.480 --> 00:24:34.500 And you know, I, on my last special, I just, 481 00:24:35.200 --> 00:24:38.759 I was talking about like white progressives, but I just 482 00:24:38.799 --> 00:24:43.009 called them white people and how like in Minneapolis, they're 483 00:24:43.049 --> 00:24:45.930 protesting ice, why these Somalians are robbing them blind. 484 00:24:46.009 --> 00:24:48.279 And It's just this thing. 485 00:24:48.460 --> 00:24:51.000 You see it in California right now with this billionaire 486 00:24:51.059 --> 00:24:55.269 super tax they want to do. I have my issues 487 00:24:55.309 --> 00:24:58.029 with billionaires. I have no problems with someone becoming a 488 00:24:58.069 --> 00:25:01.809 billionaire if they made it. Honestly, so much of these billionaires, 489 00:25:02.470 --> 00:25:06.859 it's just a corporate socialism off a government contract. But 490 00:25:06.900 --> 00:25:12.250 the notion that they're going to tax billionaires, okay? All 491 00:25:12.289 --> 00:25:14.009 they're going to do with their tax money is do 492 00:25:14.049 --> 00:25:16.190 what Gavin Newsom and all of them have been doing, 493 00:25:16.509 --> 00:25:19.279 which is give them the NGOs. It's going to funnel 494

00:25:19.319 --> 00:25:22.759 them back into their own personal pockets. Like this whole side, 495 00:25:23.019 --> 00:25:26.720 like I'm anti-tax on everybody. Like I can't stand taxes. 496 00:25:27.019 --> 00:25:30.019 I don't understand why we pay taxes when we print money. 497 00:25:30.460 --> 00:25:32.859 But it's like the left is always talking about, oh, 498 00:25:33.599 --> 00:25:36.519 we need a livable wage. Get rid of taxes. It's 499 00:25:36.559 --> 00:25:38.599 amazing how much money you have in your bank account. 500 00:25:39.180 --> 00:25:41.910 It's like this tax, it's killing us right now. It's 501 00:25:41.970 --> 00:25:45.869 killing us. And it's all fraud. It's all fraud. Where 502 00:25:45.890 --> 00:25:46.529 did the fire go? 503 00:25:46.529 --> 00:25:47.630 Well, you know, two in it. 504 00:25:47.789 --> 00:25:51.190 It's the reptiles. I'm not against that at all. 505 00:25:51.250 --> 00:25:54.670 And I know people think I'm crazy, but sorcerers and reptiles, dude. 506 00:25:54.750 --> 00:25:58.490 No, your brand is crazy. They don't think you're crazy. 507 00:25:58.519 --> 00:26:00.299 They just know you're good at it, man. 508 00:26:01.079 --> 00:26:02.759 I'm fine with that, dude. 509 00:26:02.799 --> 00:26:05.980 But what I meant, you know, this thing tax billionaires. 510 00:26:06.599 --> 00:26:09.259 I love people that just flat out say, and he 511 00:26:09.299 --> 00:26:10.380 doesn't pay any taxes. 512 00:26:11.029 --> 00:26:12.349 If you knew how much. 513 00:26:12.259 --> 00:26:16.000 These billionaires really pay the most, of course they do. 514 00:26:16.160 --> 00:26:19.539 And of course they do. And you know, this notion of, 515 00:26:20.759 --> 00:26:22.650 and then you say, well, 50% of the people in 516 00:26:22.690 --> 00:26:26.789 this country pay no taxes. You know, I think if 517 00:26:26.809 --> 00:26:34.230 you make, $ 1, 000. 518 00:26:28.890 --> 00:26:32.210 A year, you should pay a dollar. Everybody should have 519 00:26:32.250 --> 00:26:34.299 a little skin in the game, you know? 520 00:26:34.319 --> 00:26:38.960 Yeah, I mean, for me, dude, if we use our 521 00:26:39.019 --> 00:26:41.960 tax money properly and that we had say in our 522 00:26:42.000 --> 00:26:44.079 tax money, like, I don't want to pay money to 523 00:26:44.119 --> 00:26:45.859 go to war, and I don't want to pay money 524 00:26:45.880 --> 00:26:48.670 for a rail system that's never going to get built. 525 00:26:49.170 --> 00:26:52.430 You know, there's no accountability. 526 00:26:52.450 --> 00:26:55.190 The problem is that these politicians don't fear us anymore, 527 00:26:55.529 --> 00:26:58.630 so the money just gets... And, dude, I mean, I'm 528 00:26:58.670 --> 00:27:00.799 an old school liberal, Mike. And, you know, I've been 529 00:27:00.839 --> 00:27:03.940 friends with you for a long time. I credit you 530 00:27:03.980 --> 00:27:06.200 and a couple other guys from the West Side in 531 00:27:06.220 --> 00:27:07.319 helping

me get sober. 532 00:27:07.900 --> 00:27:10.029 You know, so I think I know you. I could 533 00:27:10.069 --> 00:27:10.420 be wrong. 534 00:27:10.460 --> 00:27:12.890 But I feel like you're like an old school liberal 535 00:27:12.930 --> 00:27:14.230 like me, like which I. 536 00:27:14.470 --> 00:27:15.170 Was a liberal. 537 00:27:15.230 --> 00:27:17.589 I was a Democrat for so many years of my life. 538 00:27:18.009 --> 00:27:19.410 I voted straight ticket. 539 00:27:19.890 --> 00:27:21.759 Common sense, live and let live. 540 00:27:21.819 --> 00:27:25.720 Leave me the fuck alone. Okay. Leave the kids alone. That, that, 541 00:27:25.819 --> 00:27:27.450 that's my whole thing. Okay. 542 00:27:27.849 --> 00:27:30.450 But by the way, Sam, Sammy, I wouldn't, I wouldn't 543 00:27:30.490 --> 00:27:34.440 vote for Democrats right now. If you said you'd give 544 00:27:34.480 --> 00:27:35.900 me six more inches. 545 00:27:37.009 --> 00:27:40.250 After I could use it, then I would have six inches, dude. 546 00:27:41.390 --> 00:27:44.670 But, you know, after the Spencer Pratt thing, which was 547 00:27:44.789 --> 00:27:47.450 so obvious what they did, you're never going to have 548 00:27:47.490 --> 00:27:50.890 an honest election with mail-ins. I got yelled at by 549 00:27:50.930 --> 00:27:53.960 all my old, all my friends on Facebook, which is 550 00:27:54.039 --> 00:27:56.259 Facebook is probably the worst with that. 551 00:27:56.279 --> 00:27:58.059 It's like you just post something. 552 00:27:58.099 --> 00:28:00.559 Then someone you haven't talked to in 10 years decides 553 00:28:00.599 --> 00:28:02.700 they feel like they want to light you up, even 554 00:28:02.720 --> 00:28:04.700 though you haven't talked to them forever, like your old 555 00:28:04.740 --> 00:28:05.299 school friends. 556 00:28:05.750 --> 00:28:07.289 But, you know, I got yelled at. 557 00:28:07.430 --> 00:28:10.769 I don't understand the modern process that takes like three, 558 00:28:10.849 --> 00:28:14.039 four days to count votes. Why Latin America is counting 559 00:28:14.079 --> 00:28:17.420 votes like 24 million votes in three hours. 560 00:28:17.880 --> 00:28:19.539 Well, there's another side of that, too. 561 00:28:19.660 --> 00:28:24.849 When people say, well, the 2020 election was stolen. I said, 562 00:28:25.049 --> 00:28:28.410 you don't you don't have to have any evidence or proof. 563 00:28:28.750 --> 00:28:32.569 You just have to understand we changed the voting system. 564 00:28:33.400 --> 00:28:34.609 Two months, three months. 565 00:28:34.450 --> 00:28:40.630 Before it, unconstitutionally, just changed the way we vote. And 566 00:28:41.470 --> 00:28:44.410 that alone means it wasn't a fair election. 567 00:28:45.279 --> 00:28:45.740 I agree. 568 00:28:45.960 --> 00:28:48.779 And, you know, people, when I say about these elections, 569 00:28:48.819 --> 00:28:52.700 they always think I'm a Republican. going against democrats but 570 00:28:52.839 --> 00:28:55.569 in

in florida when george bush stole the election from 571 00:28:55.670 --> 00:28:58.970 al gore i was screaming in for al gore like 572 00:28:58.990 --> 00:29:02.849 myself too yes i don't pick sides i will never 573 00:29:02.890 --> 00:29:04.569 vote for an either either of these. 574 00:29:04.450 --> 00:29:07.599 Guys no i i am not a party person crazy 575 00:29:08.079 --> 00:29:11.539 i'm the same way i'll go listen i agree with 576 00:29:11.559 --> 00:29:14.880 you i think some of these crazy ass republicans need 577 00:29:14.900 --> 00:29:18.680 to be deported with the omar family you know that 578 00:29:18.950 --> 00:29:21.190 They put them on the same bus as the Omars. 579 00:29:21.730 --> 00:29:23.369 And if you've got. 580 00:29:23.369 --> 00:29:26.900 To do one of those hydraulic lifts for Mitch McConnell's wheelchair, 581 00:29:26.920 --> 00:29:27.450 you do it. 582 00:29:27.460 --> 00:29:30.160 You build it into the bus. 583 00:29:30.400 --> 00:29:32.619 And you take a little bit of the money that 584 00:29:32.640 --> 00:29:36.529 you didn't make the train to nowhere with, and you 585 00:29:36.549 --> 00:29:38.869 get a great bus, and you get rid of them all. 586 00:29:39.250 --> 00:29:42.670 Get rid of all of them. them all. Make treason 587 00:29:42.759 --> 00:29:44.339 a felony again, dude. 588 00:29:44.640 --> 00:29:47.019 You know, it's and it's kind of crazy to me 589 00:29:47.039 --> 00:29:48.779 because I've been on this kick right now because. 590 00:29:49.390 --> 00:29:51.750 You know, the left is all about, you know, ID. 591 00:29:51.789 --> 00:29:52.990 You shouldn't have IDs. 592 00:29:53.529 --> 00:29:56.410 You know, there's people like I don't know why we 593 00:29:56.450 --> 00:29:58.859 want people who can't get IDs voting. I think they 594 00:29:58.880 --> 00:30:01.859 have bigger problems that they need to focus on. Like 595 00:30:02.180 --> 00:30:06.210 you can't get an ID. You want that person. to 596 00:30:06.289 --> 00:30:08.289 vote like the guy can't figure out how to get 597 00:30:08.309 --> 00:30:11.369 an id they should be deciding our fiscal. 598 00:30:10.930 --> 00:30:14.369 Well let's be that's all about getting more votes for 599 00:30:14.390 --> 00:30:15.250 the left but. 600 00:30:15.170 --> 00:30:17.910 Percent that's all about mail-ins that's all about and if 601 00:30:17.930 --> 00:30:19.730 you can't go down and vote why should you i 602 00:30:19.769 --> 00:30:23.470 mean i'm sorry dude it's like ah well people can't 603 00:30:23.509 --> 00:30:26.349 make the vote then why don't vote it's like fine. 604 00:30:26.089 --> 00:30:29.990 But by the way i also think that the right 605 00:30:30.079 --> 00:30:33.680 makes way too big a deal about that okay that's 606 00:30:33.759 --> 00:30:37.900 not the problem that a couple thousand illegal aliens are voting. 607 00:30:38.339 --> 00:30:39.859 The problem is that. 608 00:30:41.339 --> 00:30:45.779 These party apparatchiks are sitting there late at night after 609 00:30:45.819 --> 00:30:46.980 the polls close. 610 00:30:47.000 --> 00:30:49.880 And opening up new seats, you know, changing the votes. 611 00:30:49.900 --> 00:30:51.700 Oh, they have to figure out how much they need. 612 00:30:51.759 --> 00:30:52.220 That's why. 613 00:30:52.480 --> 00:30:52.720 Right. 614 00:30:53.000 --> 00:30:57.240 I mean, again, I'm 53 years old. The Donald Trump, 615 00:30:57.819 --> 00:31:01.940 Joe Biden thing where, like, Oh, we can't. 616 00:31:01.799 --> 00:31:02.440 Call it tomorrow? 617 00:31:02.480 --> 00:31:04.819 I've never seen that before. It was the craziest thing 618 00:31:04.839 --> 00:31:07.470 I've ever seen in my life. And I get yelled at. 619 00:31:07.529 --> 00:31:10.750 Every host I have on Conspiracy Social Club, which is 620 00:31:10.789 --> 00:31:12.250 like this debating show. 621 00:31:12.049 --> 00:31:14.710 Between me and the host, they always call me crazy. 622 00:31:14.769 --> 00:31:16.369 But I go... Nope. 623 00:31:16.549 --> 00:31:20.170 There was never a moment where there was any groundswell 624 00:31:20.210 --> 00:31:23.750 for Joe Biden. There was, he was never drawing anything, dude. 625 00:31:23.829 --> 00:31:26.809 There was never, he came in. So this is what 626 00:31:26.829 --> 00:31:28.910 they want you to believe. The Duke comes in and 627 00:31:29.130 --> 00:31:32.710 the Colorado was the first primary belief. He comes in seventh. 628 00:31:33.430 --> 00:31:35.089 And now you're telling me you got the most votes 629 00:31:35.190 --> 00:31:36.279 ever by Democrat. 630 00:31:37.730 --> 00:31:40.640 What I always laugh about that is to go, you know, 631 00:31:40.799 --> 00:31:42.859 I think Trump got 71 votes or 77 votes and 632 00:31:42.920 --> 00:31:47.059 he got 80, 81 votes. It's like if you were smart, 633 00:31:47.500 --> 00:31:51.900 you would have said Biden got $ 79 million. But when 634 00:31:51.940 --> 00:31:56.259 you made it so big, even Obama went, oh, that's bullshit. 635 00:31:56.680 --> 00:31:57.809 No way he got more than me. 636 00:31:57.900 --> 00:32:01.309 Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's all ridiculous. 637 00:32:01.490 --> 00:32:05.250 They overdid it. They overdid it. And, you know, look, to. 638 00:32:07.430 --> 00:32:11.549 Me, these are all– I guess they're conspiracies. I guess 639 00:32:11.569 --> 00:32:14.990 it's just because now everybody's got an opinion and everybody 640 00:32:15.029 --> 00:32:18.529 just– despise the lines they're told you know like i 641 00:32:18.569 --> 00:32:20.750 said i walk with i have a couple friends that 642 00:32:20.769 --> 00:32:23.930 i walk with and they're just such you know they're 643 00:32:23.970 --> 00:32:28.089 just listening to msn all night long or cnn all 644 00:32:28.130 --> 00:32:32.619 night long and you just go okay you you're i 645 00:32:32.660 --> 00:32:35.420 don't know if you say they're being pumped with conspiracy 646 00:32:35.460 --> 00:32:39.920 theories but they're being pumped with party lines

you know. 647 00:32:39.779 --> 00:32:43.829 Yes conformity dude it's all about conformity You saw what 648 00:32:43.849 --> 00:32:47.119 the Shane Gillis thing with this joke, you know, you 649 00:32:47.130 --> 00:32:50.900 just got people just yelling into the void to show 650 00:32:50.940 --> 00:32:52.920 that they're, they're, they're part of the team. 651 00:32:52.960 --> 00:32:53.799 That's all it is. 652 00:32:53.859 --> 00:32:58.400 And it's like, it's so predicated on conformity toe in 653 00:32:58.420 --> 00:33:01.099 the party line, toe in the group line that you 654 00:33:01.140 --> 00:33:03.819 say ridiculous things. Cause you want everyone to know you're 655 00:33:03.839 --> 00:33:05.880 part of the group. And that's just what you see. 656 00:33:05.900 --> 00:33:09.180 And again, I don't like either side. I, the extremes 657 00:33:09.319 --> 00:33:12.190 are really, really like I'm, I'm at the point and 658 00:33:12.369 --> 00:33:14.450 I P I can lose people on this, but I 659 00:33:14.470 --> 00:33:17.069 don't like Republicans, but I despise Democrats. 660 00:33:17.170 --> 00:33:17.809 There are, dude. 661 00:33:17.829 --> 00:33:21.549 And that's where I'm at. You know, you and I, 662 00:33:21.950 --> 00:33:26.099 you and I are lockstep with everything other than the 663 00:33:26.180 --> 00:33:30.059 Gaza genocide thing. And I, to me, to me, that 664 00:33:30.220 --> 00:33:34.150 that's just the new black lives matter. But you, you know, I, 665 00:33:34.859 --> 00:33:38.029 you and I could, debate the end. Same with Jimmy door. 666 00:33:38.089 --> 00:33:41.630 I love Jimmy door, but, but you, I can't think 667 00:33:41.670 --> 00:33:45.799 of one thing you've ever said that I go, Oh, 668 00:33:45.839 --> 00:33:46.720 I don't agree with. 669 00:33:46.819 --> 00:33:49.539 Other than that. And that's just, that's just baked in. 670 00:33:49.619 --> 00:33:52.119 But that's okay too. Like that, you know, you know, 671 00:33:52.160 --> 00:33:53.319 we've been around for a while. 672 00:33:53.380 --> 00:33:55.720 You, you were, you were in a, you know, that 673 00:33:55.759 --> 00:33:58.400 the comedy store during the first heyday was, Then the 674 00:33:58.440 --> 00:34:01.859 second heyday came when Rogan came back. So you've been 675 00:34:01.900 --> 00:34:04.500 around for a while, and we used to be able 676 00:34:04.519 --> 00:34:06.019 to disagree, and that was okay. 677 00:34:06.440 --> 00:34:07.960 Absolutely, and that's. 678 00:34:07.839 --> 00:34:09.760 The way I feel. That's the way I feel. I 679 00:34:09.900 --> 00:34:10.440 don't care. 680 00:34:10.480 --> 00:34:14.760 I'd be more concerned if we agreed with everything. 681 00:34:15.480 --> 00:34:18.139 Yeah, I think that can get really dangerous. You know, 682 00:34:18.679 --> 00:34:21.639 it's like and that's a big problem for Hollywood right now. 683 00:34:22.050 --> 00:34:23.949 You know, again, going back to Shane Gillis thing, I 684 00:34:23.989 --> 00:34:28.550 think

there's a warm, provocative comedy. And the problem with L.A. 685 00:34:28.570 --> 00:34:31.510 right now is that the L.A. and let's get very specific. 686 00:34:31.590 --> 00:34:35.909 It's the Hollywood comedy scene is not popular. not provocative 687 00:34:35.969 --> 00:34:38.769 anymore and it's not pushing culture and it's because you 688 00:34:38.789 --> 00:34:40.909 know during covid a lot of the savages left but 689 00:34:40.969 --> 00:34:43.309 now it's kind of like if you do have an 690 00:34:43.389 --> 00:34:47.260 alternative view you kind of get excommunicated in a little 691 00:34:47.280 --> 00:34:47.989 bit well. 692 00:34:47.780 --> 00:34:52.139 You know you know you know to me stand-up comedy 693 00:34:52.320 --> 00:34:56.480 was always about people breaking the rules say you know 694 00:34:57.019 --> 00:35:02.679 i i always describe it as the guy that says 695 00:35:02.739 --> 00:35:04.719 the things that you think but. 696 00:35:05.300 --> 00:35:07.360 Not supposed to say. Okay. 697 00:35:07.500 --> 00:35:08.139 Bingo. 698 00:35:08.599 --> 00:35:12.320 And, and it changed for a while that, and, and 699 00:35:12.440 --> 00:35:14.920 I thought it was before COVID there were all these, 700 00:35:15.599 --> 00:35:19.780 these people with, with specials and standup routines that were 701 00:35:19.800 --> 00:35:23.360 just playing to the train seals. And it's like, you know, 702 00:35:23.400 --> 00:35:25.860 that's going to get an applause. If you, Oh, this 703 00:35:25.989 --> 00:35:29.170 Trump is this, or this, you, you know, that's not 704 00:35:29.210 --> 00:35:31.210 what you're supposed to be doing. You're supposed to be 705 00:35:31.230 --> 00:35:36.570 going against the grain, the grain and, and, and pushing things, 706 00:35:36.800 --> 00:35:39.219 people to think differently about their lives. 707 00:35:39.920 --> 00:35:42.719 And you can have the stand, the spectrum of comedy. 708 00:35:42.800 --> 00:35:45.159 You know, I'm fine with pop comedy. Some of my 709 00:35:45.199 --> 00:35:49.489 favorite comics are, are this kind of clean, fun stuff. 710 00:35:49.889 --> 00:35:54.460 I love them. I love Jim Gaffigan. I love, Jeff Boxworthy. 711 00:35:54.599 --> 00:35:55.500 I could go forever. 712 00:35:55.619 --> 00:35:56.840 Nate Bargatze? 713 00:35:57.079 --> 00:35:59.219 Nate Bargatze is a crusher, dude. 714 00:35:59.239 --> 00:36:01.340 Bargatze, whatever. You can't say his name right. 715 00:36:01.820 --> 00:36:03.619 I know. That's fine. That's who I am. 716 00:36:03.880 --> 00:36:06.780 But on the other side is the Doug Stanhopes, the 717 00:36:06.800 --> 00:36:10.219 David Tells, these guys. And like, I was having a 718 00:36:10.260 --> 00:36:12.010 conversation with a friend of mine. He's like, you know, 719 00:36:12.030 --> 00:36:14.289 I'm 53, so I'm not one of the young guys anymore. 720 00:36:14.590 --> 00:36:17.449 But like, who, who's the young edgy comic in LA 721 00:36:17.469 --> 00:36:19.489 right now? Who's

the guy who's going up there and 722 00:36:19.849 --> 00:36:22.219 rattling cages and being provocative. 723 00:36:22.530 --> 00:36:23.500 He couldn't make one. 724 00:36:23.719 --> 00:36:24.130 You, you. 725 00:36:25.079 --> 00:36:27.519 That's what I love about your ex. 726 00:36:27.860 --> 00:36:30.340 And I'm trying, and I just feel like these young 727 00:36:30.380 --> 00:36:31.559 guys get so mad at me. 728 00:36:31.579 --> 00:36:34.840 They don't understand what I'm doing. I'm like, dude, I'm 729 00:36:34.929 --> 00:36:36.829 showing you you can do this, man. 730 00:36:37.110 --> 00:36:40.250 Like, I understand you don't like Trump, but when you don't, 731 00:36:40.369 --> 00:36:42.869 it's like what happened to Saturday Night Live? I'm fine 732 00:36:42.889 --> 00:36:44.909 when you're making fun of Trump. Make fun of Trump. 733 00:36:44.969 --> 00:36:47.050 He's the president. We should always hold truth to power. 734 00:36:47.409 --> 00:36:49.389 But make fun of Joe Biden. That's why you lost 735 00:36:49.409 --> 00:36:51.380 your whole audience. You got this guy who. 736 00:36:52.150 --> 00:36:56.309 Hey, buddy, you're a comedian that if you're on and 737 00:36:56.369 --> 00:37:01.030 I'm at the store, Sam's going, I come in and watch, 738 00:37:01.380 --> 00:37:01.719 you know? 739 00:37:01.969 --> 00:37:05.719 Have you ever seen a doc on comedy called Dying Laughing? 740 00:37:07.679 --> 00:37:09.780 Did Kevin Pollak do that one? 741 00:37:09.940 --> 00:37:12.599 No, no. He's in it, but it was this guy 742 00:37:12.659 --> 00:37:14.659 out Britain and it's really good. Oh, yes. 743 00:37:14.780 --> 00:37:15.900 I did see that. Yeah. 744 00:37:16.179 --> 00:37:19.309 And Chris Rock's in it. And he says something amazing 745 00:37:19.369 --> 00:37:21.480 in there. He goes, I'm not the guy that has 746 00:37:21.500 --> 00:37:22.579 to get a laugh all the time. 747 00:37:22.639 --> 00:37:25.000 I want to laugh. I want to boo. I want silence. 748 00:37:25.039 --> 00:37:28.829 I want, you know, and it's provocative and it's meant to, 749 00:37:29.530 --> 00:37:32.110 I think we've gotten to this place where because it 750 00:37:32.150 --> 00:37:34.969 has a laugh in it, people think that means you 751 00:37:35.090 --> 00:37:39.469 co-sign on what's being said. When in reality, the surprise 752 00:37:39.510 --> 00:37:42.329 of was they've done studies. What makes people laugh? And 753 00:37:42.389 --> 00:37:45.869 it's the surprise of the punchline that gets you giggling. 754 00:37:46.170 --> 00:37:49.449 But now it's because it's, You know, again, going back 755 00:37:49.469 --> 00:37:54.590 to the Shane Gillis thing, you see people calling out 756 00:37:55.440 --> 00:37:59.400 provocative comedy, but it's the only form of art that 757 00:37:59.519 --> 00:38:04.329 isn't the edgiest it's ever been. Like movies, television, songs, 758 00:38:04.750 --> 00:38:07.949 books have been pushing it and pushing the edge and 759 00:38:08.030 --> 00:38:10.820 pushing the edge. And stand up is, and I, you know, 760 00:38:10.940 --> 00:38:13.219 and again, I love clean comics, but I say it's 761 00:38:13.260 --> 00:38:16.789 like children's entertainment for adults right now. It's been so 762 00:38:16.849 --> 00:38:20.210 kneecapped and neutered and I'm fine with clean. 763 00:38:20.250 --> 00:38:23.889 The only thing that I would say, uh, not to, 764 00:38:23.949 --> 00:38:27.989 you know, not to contradict you, Sammy, but, but, but 765 00:38:29.619 --> 00:38:31.519 first of all, I'd say you, second of all, I'd 766 00:38:31.539 --> 00:38:36.519 say Tony Hinchcliffe and Rogan and, and, And all these, 767 00:38:36.940 --> 00:38:38.300 you talk about young. 768 00:38:38.039 --> 00:38:41.369 People coming up. 769 00:38:41.409 --> 00:38:41.869 What's her name? 770 00:38:41.889 --> 00:38:45.869 Christina Mariani. A lot of them are coming. 771 00:38:46.469 --> 00:38:51.449 So I think it's just there's so many different niches 772 00:38:51.690 --> 00:38:52.710 of stand-up now. 773 00:38:52.750 --> 00:38:53.670 Yeah, algorithms. 774 00:38:54.489 --> 00:38:58.329 But I think, and to me, listen, if I were 775 00:38:58.429 --> 00:39:01.199 Shane Gillis, I would show up at a gym somewhere 776 00:39:01.260 --> 00:39:04.059 in spandex and just let them film me. you know, 777 00:39:05.179 --> 00:39:08.440 but he, he, he, he can take this whole thing 778 00:39:08.480 --> 00:39:12.610 in the bank. It sure hasn't hurt him. It's only helpful. 779 00:39:13.030 --> 00:39:16.949 And that's the thing. That's the crux of the whole thing. 780 00:39:18.010 --> 00:39:21.349 There's only one guy I think that ever really got 781 00:39:21.429 --> 00:39:22.369 canceled in comedy. 782 00:39:22.389 --> 00:39:23.670 And that was Michael Richards. 783 00:39:24.289 --> 00:39:27.489 And he had a meltdown on stage and he broke 784 00:39:27.630 --> 00:39:30.570 the greatest rule of all time for some reason. if 785 00:39:30.610 --> 00:39:33.349 you say the N word, which is a word that's 786 00:39:33.469 --> 00:39:37.639 used all the time, if you say it, you legally 787 00:39:37.679 --> 00:39:39.420 can be taken somewhere and shot in the head. 788 00:39:40.139 --> 00:39:40.699 And he was. 789 00:39:41.099 --> 00:39:44.440 But Chappelle and. 790 00:39:45.940 --> 00:39:49.250 Shane and all these guys, The more trouble they get in, 791 00:39:49.289 --> 00:39:50.269 the bigger they get. 792 00:39:50.590 --> 00:39:52.690 I can't get canceled. I keep trying. 793 00:39:53.070 --> 00:39:53.710 Yeah, exactly. 794 00:39:53.730 --> 00:39:56.269 Cancel me so I can start selling some tickets because 795 00:39:56.289 --> 00:39:57.469 the road is getting brutal. 796 00:39:58.010 --> 00:39:59.610 Exactly. Help me. 797 00:39:59.969 --> 00:40:00.409 Help me. 798 00:40:00.449 --> 00:40:06.650 Get people busy. I love Pauly Shore. I think Pauly 799 00:40:06.670 --> 00:40:08.530 got a bad rap for some reason. It was kind 800 00:40:08.550 -->

00:40:10.969 of before I got there. But every time Pauly Shore 801 00:40:11.010 --> 00:40:12.929 goes on stage, that dude crushes, dude. 802 00:40:13.449 --> 00:40:14.409 And he's so funny. 803 00:40:15.329 --> 00:40:17.789 You know, when I just got back into standup after 804 00:40:18.050 --> 00:40:20.440 all those years off and I had no stage legs, 805 00:40:20.980 --> 00:40:23.179 I would go as a middle act for a lot 806 00:40:23.219 --> 00:40:25.960 of these guys, you know, old friends of mine. And 807 00:40:26.239 --> 00:40:30.340 I went with Pauly up through like Idaho and some, 808 00:40:30.360 --> 00:40:34.070 some of these States and the guy sold out every 809 00:40:34.119 --> 00:40:37.690 night and he killed. And I realized he'd stayed on 810 00:40:37.809 --> 00:40:40.650 stage all the last 30 some years. 811 00:40:40.869 --> 00:40:42.210 And he just got good. 812 00:40:42.780 --> 00:40:44.079 He's good, dude. 813 00:40:44.340 --> 00:40:44.679 Yeah. 814 00:40:44.760 --> 00:40:48.199 He's good. Pauly Shore. He's a body. Can I do 815 00:40:48.219 --> 00:40:49.340 your show? I'm like, yeah. 816 00:40:49.369 --> 00:40:52.010 And just get a giant pop every time he walks out. 817 00:40:52.030 --> 00:40:55.909 And he's funny, dude. And it's like Mitzi Shore was 818 00:40:55.969 --> 00:41:00.250 a very special person for everything anyone could say about her. 819 00:41:01.090 --> 00:41:02.530 She was loved. 820 00:41:02.610 --> 00:41:03.429 Hey, I loved her. 821 00:41:03.590 --> 00:41:04.070 I loved her. 822 00:41:04.110 --> 00:41:05.619 She was great to me. She cut the line for me. 823 00:41:05.630 --> 00:41:09.599 I would watch her do showcases. I would watch her showcases. 824 00:41:10.460 --> 00:41:13.760 And... man, I would see people bomb and she'd still 825 00:41:13.800 --> 00:41:16.639 pick them up. And I was always blown away because 826 00:41:16.659 --> 00:41:20.199 she saw something. Now it didn't always work out, but she, 827 00:41:20.889 --> 00:41:24.409 she understood something. And this is for me, like, I'm 828 00:41:24.449 --> 00:41:26.949 not really into the laugh, dude. The laugh doesn't mean 829 00:41:27.030 --> 00:41:29.889 anything to me. It's how you get the laugh is everything. 830 00:41:29.949 --> 00:41:33.789 Like there's a Stavos clip going around and some people 831 00:41:33.849 --> 00:41:37.090 are mad at Stavos now because he's, become a super liberal. 832 00:41:37.190 --> 00:41:39.550 And I, again, I don't give a shit about politics, 833 00:41:39.829 --> 00:41:41.829 but he's got this bit on trans. And if you 834 00:41:41.869 --> 00:41:43.869 have a problem with trans, you don't like the bit, 835 00:41:44.190 --> 00:41:47.230 but if you watch the bit, actually watch it, it's 836 00:41:47.409 --> 00:41:49.869 one of the best written bits I've ever seen in 837 00:41:49.889 --> 00:41:54.170 my life. There's no wasted lines, tag, tag, tag, tag, tag. 838 00:41:54.530 --> 00:41:56.730 I always tell people like Orny Adams

is like that, 839 00:41:56.789 --> 00:42:00.789 like no wasted lines. So many tags. I'm like, watch this. 840 00:42:00.829 --> 00:42:03.309 This is how you write a joke. And that for 841 00:42:03.349 --> 00:42:06.530 me is more important. I can laugh at a joke. 842 00:42:06.610 --> 00:42:10.829 I don't necessarily agree with if I watch for structure, 843 00:42:11.130 --> 00:42:13.150 that's what I know. How's it written? 844 00:42:14.590 --> 00:42:15.090 Absolutely. 845 00:42:15.150 --> 00:42:17.769 I don't agree with anything Sarah Silverman says, but I 846 00:42:17.829 --> 00:42:25.579 can watch her stuff all the time. She's so well-written. 847 00:42:25.639 --> 00:42:27.800 But he's one of the best writers to ever do it. 848 00:42:28.480 --> 00:42:29.139 Absolutely. 849 00:42:29.179 --> 00:42:31.699 And so she, by the way, so Sarah Silverman is, 850 00:42:32.340 --> 00:42:38.659 She's amazing, her head. She's talking about a brand of 851 00:42:38.699 --> 00:42:41.800 tulips that don't smell good to me, but that's fine. 852 00:42:41.820 --> 00:42:49.360 I don't worry about that. I personally agree with you. 853 00:42:49.909 --> 00:42:55.190 I think the laugh is everything, but if it's all 854 00:42:55.230 --> 00:42:58.929 you care about, then it takes away from your work. 855 00:42:59.550 --> 00:43:01.929 Have I told you I break comics down into three? 856 00:43:02.010 --> 00:43:03.469 And you may not agree with this, but this is 857 00:43:03.489 --> 00:43:05.409 just kind of how I... Did I tell you this 858 00:43:05.449 --> 00:43:07.840 last time? The three types of comedians there are? 859 00:43:08.360 --> 00:43:08.639 No. 860 00:43:09.159 --> 00:43:11.739 There's pop comics. I used to call them clowns, but 861 00:43:11.800 --> 00:43:14.360 people took it negatively. It wasn't meant like that. There's 862 00:43:14.440 --> 00:43:17.519 pop comics, and they just care about the laugh, okay? 863 00:43:18.139 --> 00:43:21.170 And then there's what I call shit talkers. And those 864 00:43:21.210 --> 00:43:23.929 are the Bill Burrs, the Joe Rogans. They want to 865 00:43:23.949 --> 00:43:26.409 get laughed talking about what matters to them. And then 866 00:43:26.449 --> 00:43:28.639 the last one are the outlaws. And those are the 867 00:43:28.679 --> 00:43:31.909 Doug Stanhopes, the Brian Holtzman, the Joey Diaz's. I'd like 868 00:43:31.929 --> 00:43:33.710 to throw myself in there, but that's not for me 869 00:43:33.769 --> 00:43:37.329 to decide. And those guys just want to scorch the earth. 870 00:43:37.590 --> 00:43:40.860 And each one has its own thing. What do you 871 00:43:40.900 --> 00:43:41.760 call the third one? 872 00:43:42.760 --> 00:43:43.360 The outlaws. 873 00:43:43.760 --> 00:43:48.070 The outlaws. Yeah, that makes sense. That makes sense. 874 00:43:48.369 --> 00:43:51.210 The pop comics play the big rooms. 875 00:43:51.289 --> 00:43:57.099 The shit talkers become very popular. The outlaws are legends. 876 00:43:57.679 --> 00:44:01.679 They're the ones that the comics always talk about. each 877 00:44:01.800 --> 00:44:04.309 one's I think is viable. And like, you wouldn't want 878 00:44:04.369 --> 00:44:06.809 everyone to be any one of those. Like just you 879 00:44:06.929 --> 00:44:08.949 and me, you wouldn't want everyone to be a pop comp. 880 00:44:08.969 --> 00:44:10.710 You won't want everyone to be a shit talk. You 881 00:44:10.750 --> 00:44:14.050 won't want everyone to be, you know, you Doug stand 882 00:44:14.130 --> 00:44:16.210 up is unique. Cause he's Doug stand up. You wouldn't 883 00:44:16.250 --> 00:44:18.489 want everyone trying to do Doug stand up. Then it 884 00:44:18.530 --> 00:44:21.130 wouldn't be unique anymore. And that my whole thing is like, 885 00:44:21.389 --> 00:44:24.210 give us the spectrum, give us the spectrum. 886 00:44:24.469 --> 00:44:26.309 And then, you know, it's funny when I came back 887 00:44:26.590 --> 00:44:30.849 after all those years to do the, the, um, comedy 888 00:44:30.869 --> 00:44:33.730 store doc and I really walked away from the whole 889 00:44:33.829 --> 00:44:38.349 scene I really was too busy and I just didn't 890 00:44:38.409 --> 00:44:42.929 care about it anymore but Adam Eget introduced me to 891 00:44:43.010 --> 00:44:47.820 Rogan one night in the kitchen at the store and 892 00:44:48.099 --> 00:44:51.500 he said who are you going to interview from our 893 00:44:51.599 --> 00:44:55.260 era and you tell me and he said Joey Diaz 894 00:44:56.280 --> 00:44:58.920 watch Joey Diaz and I had never even heard of 895 00:44:58.960 --> 00:45:02.500 Joey Diaz to be honest And Adam said, he's on 896 00:45:02.519 --> 00:45:06.869 in about an hour. So I sat down and that guy. 897 00:45:06.929 --> 00:45:11.570 Blew me away, you know? And I, you know, I watch, 898 00:45:11.630 --> 00:45:15.969 I've watched him so many times and I love that. 899 00:45:16.309 --> 00:45:19.030 That to me is my kind of comedy. 900 00:45:19.170 --> 00:45:21.070 And Stan Hope. 901 00:45:21.590 --> 00:45:24.570 Brian Holtzman, you know, I, I love it. 902 00:45:25.030 --> 00:45:27.989 You know, I, I, I love to see you in 903 00:45:28.030 --> 00:45:31.369 the main room when you do that show and you're 904 00:45:31.389 --> 00:45:32.929 in the main room and you just walk out and 905 00:45:32.949 --> 00:45:37.699 you go, he's picking a fight with the audience. He 906 00:45:37.860 --> 00:45:42.940 came out wanting them to challenge them. I dare you 907 00:45:42.980 --> 00:45:43.760 to laugh at me. 908 00:45:43.860 --> 00:45:44.539 I'm a prick. 909 00:45:45.230 --> 00:45:46.829 Well, I feel if I get it out of the way, 910 00:45:46.889 --> 00:45:49.429 I set the precedence and everybody else has a good time. 911 00:45:49.610 --> 00:45:52.489 Like one thing about Joey, Joe Rogan is like, he 912 00:45:52.530 --> 00:45:55.059 brought out Joey Diaz and Ari Shaffir. So by the 913 00:45:55.099 --> 00:45:57.719 time he hits the stage, any of this kind of 914

00:45:58.039 --> 00:46:01.880 notion that it's going to be comedy is out the 915 00:46:01.900 --> 00:46:05.260 door and everything's kind of, it's done. So it sets 916 00:46:05.300 --> 00:46:07.019 a precedence for him. And I always thought he was 917 00:46:07.550 --> 00:46:09.269 really smart to do that, dude. 918 00:46:09.469 --> 00:46:10.010 Oh, listen. 919 00:46:10.110 --> 00:46:13.630 And I always, I always, not only that, I really 920 00:46:13.670 --> 00:46:18.739 give it up to, Joe Rogan, and even Bert Kreischer, 921 00:46:18.780 --> 00:46:22.380 they took some killers on the road to open for him. 922 00:46:22.420 --> 00:46:27.739 You will look at Bill Burr. Bill Burr goes up 923 00:46:27.820 --> 00:46:30.539 in these big arenas, and he's always got a couple 924 00:46:30.619 --> 00:46:35.219 guys that are C-plus guys, and they do, or one 925 00:46:35.280 --> 00:46:39.340 guy does like 20 minutes, and it's just setting him, oh, 926 00:46:39.380 --> 00:46:41.199 isn't Bill Burr brilliant? 927 00:46:41.559 --> 00:46:42.619 But you never. 928 00:46:42.420 --> 00:46:45.929 See him have four killers before him and he could, 929 00:46:46.090 --> 00:46:48.929 but he, it's not what a lot of these guys 930 00:46:49.010 --> 00:46:52.730 don't want that. And I think that, I think that 931 00:46:52.989 --> 00:46:56.320 Rogan and Bert Kreischer and, and Tony Hinchcliffe, I've seen 932 00:46:56.360 --> 00:47:02.300 them take monsters, then follow and put five of them 933 00:47:02.420 --> 00:47:05.440 on before that. There's him and still come. 934 00:47:05.360 --> 00:47:05.940 Out and kill. 935 00:47:06.739 --> 00:47:10.530 You know, it's, I, in Europe, the way they do 936 00:47:10.630 --> 00:47:14.650 stand up, dude, is a different lineup. The second funniest 937 00:47:14.690 --> 00:47:18.389 guy goes first. And then the guy who in America 938 00:47:18.409 --> 00:47:22.130 would be opening goes second. And then the headliner goes up. 939 00:47:22.550 --> 00:47:25.010 And I feel like if we would have done that 940 00:47:25.030 --> 00:47:28.590 in America, these big name comics would be taking out 941 00:47:29.630 --> 00:47:31.610 greater comics on the road, but they don't want to 942 00:47:31.690 --> 00:47:34.190 follow because the feature spot to me is the easiest spot. 943 00:47:34.530 --> 00:47:37.969 So it's like they take out people they want to follow, 944 00:47:38.070 --> 00:47:41.969 which really sucks because in music, bands take out killers 945 00:47:42.050 --> 00:47:45.210 like the rolling stone took out yes leonard skinner to 946 00:47:45.269 --> 00:47:47.769 follow because there's that break in the middle which settles 947 00:47:47.849 --> 00:47:50.159 everybody down and then they can go up and kill 948 00:47:50.199 --> 00:47:52.079 and it just makes for a better show for them. 949 00:47:52.619 --> 00:47:56.000 I remember i remember tom petty was took was taken 950 00:47:56.059 --> 00:47:59.139 out jackson brown for a while and i read this 951 00:47:59.199 --> 00:48:03.599 thing where he said it's tough to follow him you 952 00:48:03.659 --> 00:48:05.900 know but it keeps my game up. 953 00:48:06.710 --> 00:48:07.409 Yes, dude. 954 00:48:07.489 --> 00:48:10.070 And if we, we had the, the best guy opening 955 00:48:10.449 --> 00:48:13.309 and the second best going or the, the, the second 956 00:48:13.329 --> 00:48:16.110 best guy opening the third best guy, cause he's new 957 00:48:16.889 --> 00:48:19.929 going second. And then the headliner following that it would be, 958 00:48:20.300 --> 00:48:21.820 we would see a whole different thing. 959 00:48:21.880 --> 00:48:24.360 And you know, some of these guys are like, listen, 960 00:48:25.300 --> 00:48:26.619 I was a door guy. 961 00:48:26.639 --> 00:48:31.400 I appreciate, you know, I was a real like knucklehead 962 00:48:31.420 --> 00:48:33.079 back in the day. So nobody took me on the 963 00:48:33.119 --> 00:48:36.280 road and I get that. And I, I deserve that. 964 00:48:36.960 --> 00:48:40.900 I created that. That's a result of my actions and behaviors. 965 00:48:42.480 --> 00:48:44.659 So when I went on the road, I went straight 966 00:48:44.699 --> 00:48:47.250 to headliner. And I had to learn on the road 967 00:48:47.289 --> 00:48:50.650 how to headline from just experience. Like I couldn't sit 968 00:48:50.670 --> 00:48:55.269 there and watch somebody. And it was very rough. So 969 00:48:55.429 --> 00:48:58.489 I understand taking people on the road. But some of 970 00:48:58.510 --> 00:49:03.510 these guys are like leaving their friends behind. And it 971 00:49:03.550 --> 00:49:06.159 makes me sad because they're playing these giant rooms and 972 00:49:06.199 --> 00:49:08.880 people they used to run with open mics are just 973 00:49:08.940 --> 00:49:11.960 trying to pay their bills and they don't take them 974 00:49:12.019 --> 00:49:12.579 on the road. 975 00:49:12.760 --> 00:49:14.869 And there's, let me ask you another question. 976 00:49:15.110 --> 00:49:16.429 Okay. 977 00:49:16.469 --> 00:49:16.690 Sorry. 978 00:49:16.750 --> 00:49:17.070 I'm sorry. 979 00:49:17.090 --> 00:49:19.599 The reason I love Nate Bregazzi, he's such a great 980 00:49:19.619 --> 00:49:24.219 guy because he takes his old roommates that he used 981 00:49:24.260 --> 00:49:26.900 to have a room, used to share an apartment with 982 00:49:27.380 --> 00:49:29.980 in New York. He takes them on the road and 983 00:49:30.039 --> 00:49:32.260 if they do two or three shows with him, that's 984 00:49:32.300 --> 00:49:36.429 their yearly nut. They paid all their bills with three shows. Like, 985 00:49:36.489 --> 00:49:38.050 that's why that guy's such a good dude. 986 00:49:38.329 --> 00:49:41.510 Well, Sandler's the same guy. Sandler does that, too. Sandler's 987 00:49:41.590 --> 00:49:44.489 had all his college guys, made them all big movie. 988 00:49:44.369 --> 00:49:45.570 Producers and shit. Yeah. 989 00:49:45.610 --> 00:49:48.139 But let me ask you a

question that I'm very 990 00:49:48.239 --> 00:49:52.599 curious your take on. I just heard a story about 991 00:49:52.699 --> 00:49:57.500 this big-name guy playing theaters, taking out guys on the 992 00:49:57.539 --> 00:50:00.340 road and paying them, like, $ 200. I know what you're 993 00:50:00.360 --> 00:50:04.769 talking about, too. And that makes me sick. That makes 994 00:50:04.809 --> 00:50:09.510 me sick. But is what, what is normal? Like, what 995 00:50:09.530 --> 00:50:13.199 do you think they do? If you're making a million 996 00:50:13.260 --> 00:50:15.780 dollars a night or half a million dollars a night, 997 00:50:16.199 --> 00:50:20.119 aren't they paying some of these guys like $ 10, 000 or something? 998 00:50:20.139 --> 00:50:21.590 Well, if you're making a million dollars a night, you 999 00:50:21.610 --> 00:50:24.309 should pay 10,000, but let's say you're making, it. 1000 00:50:25.849 --> 00:50:26.530 Also depends. 1001 00:50:26.570 --> 00:50:28.530 Like you're not going to pay the feature the same as, 1002 00:50:28.690 --> 00:50:30.329 I mean, you're not going to pay the opener same 1003 00:50:30.349 --> 00:50:32.710 as feature, uh, You know, I mean, when I went 1004 00:50:32.730 --> 00:50:34.289 on the road with Rogan, I think he paid me 1005 00:50:34.329 --> 00:50:35.190 a G. 1006 00:50:34.969 --> 00:50:35.840 To open for him. 1007 00:50:35.960 --> 00:50:38.639 And I was grateful for that because I wasn't making 1008 00:50:38.659 --> 00:50:41.679 anything like that, dude, when we were doing theaters. You know, 1009 00:50:41.800 --> 00:50:44.179 my whole thing is money is meant to be given 1010 00:50:44.239 --> 00:50:45.480 away and spent on others. 1011 00:50:45.579 --> 00:50:46.860 It sounds crazy. 1012 00:50:47.300 --> 00:50:48.070 Absolutely. 1013 00:50:48.210 --> 00:50:50.190 The more you give out, the more you get back. 1014 00:50:50.269 --> 00:50:53.429 And if you hoard money, the universe pounds you for that. 1015 00:50:53.530 --> 00:50:57.489 So I've always said, it's like, I'm going to say 1016 00:50:57.530 --> 00:51:00.719 something like, People now get paid in LA because of 1017 00:51:00.800 --> 00:51:03.460 Comedy Chaos, the show I started, me and my girlfriend. 1018 00:51:04.079 --> 00:51:07.070 And I decided to run this show. Rogan was doing it. 1019 00:51:07.460 --> 00:51:09.079 And there was this producer, I'm not going to say 1020 00:51:09.099 --> 00:51:12.579 his name. He was paying for sold out main room shows, 1021 00:51:12.579 --> 00:51:18.019 $ 50 to like the biggest names, $ 100. 1022 00:51:17.059 --> 00:51:19.000 $ 50. 1023 00:51:18.030 --> 00:51:20.230 So this one huge comic comes in, he goes, this 1024 00:51:20.269 --> 00:51:22.329 guy's keeping all the money. And I had taken what 1025 00:51:22.349 --> 00:51:25.150 the comedy store and doubled it. And then I said, nope, 1026 00:51:25.230 --> 00:51:28.760 I'm going to triple it. And now everybody gets paid 1027 00:51:28.780 --> 00:51:31.329 in LA.

Like I did a side room show at 1028 00:51:31.349 --> 00:51:33.730 the improv and I got paid a hundred bucks for 1029 00:51:33.730 --> 00:51:36.489 15 minutes. And that's most people like, yeah, that sounds good. 1030 00:51:36.949 --> 00:51:38.869 My girlfriend, I came home when I got a hundred 1031 00:51:38.909 --> 00:51:41.360 dollars for the side room. I go, Dana, they pay 1032 00:51:41.380 --> 00:51:43.500 me a hundred bucks for this spot. She goes, I 1033 00:51:43.519 --> 00:51:46.119 remember when we first started dating, I would find checks 1034 00:51:46.179 --> 00:51:46.980 from comedy clubs. 1035 00:51:47.039 --> 00:51:47.960 I'm not going to say which one. 1036 00:51:48.179 --> 00:51:52.190 For $ 7 and 50 cents for a main room spot. 1037 00:51:53.420 --> 00:51:55.360 And I'm like, yeah. 1038 00:51:55.400 --> 00:51:57.699 Well, when you say a main room spot, I think 1039 00:51:57.719 --> 00:51:59.179 you just said which one. 1040 00:51:59.639 --> 00:52:01.159 Okay. 1041 00:52:01.219 --> 00:52:02.179 Okay. 1042 00:52:02.260 --> 00:52:05.000 Paid really like back. 1043 00:52:05.019 --> 00:52:06.219 Yeah. 1044 00:52:06.539 --> 00:52:08.179 They had Fridays and they got rid of it and 1045 00:52:08.199 --> 00:52:10.340 then they brought it back. But if you got a Friday, Saturday, 1046 00:52:10.599 --> 00:52:12.480 and you did that four weeks in a row, you 1047 00:52:12.500 --> 00:52:13.059 could pay your. 1048 00:52:12.949 --> 00:52:13.610 Rent off that. 1049 00:52:13.989 --> 00:52:17.150 But this other place was paying $ 7 and 50 cents 1050 00:52:17.190 --> 00:52:17.949 a spot. 1051 00:52:18.409 --> 00:52:20.230 That's crazy. That's crazy. 1052 00:52:21.030 --> 00:52:24.260 Um, let me ask you, uh, I want to talk 1053 00:52:24.300 --> 00:52:26.179 to you about your new special. 1054 00:52:27.179 --> 00:52:28.500 Can I just show a little piece of it? 1055 00:52:28.980 --> 00:52:30.059 Yeah, man. 1056 00:52:30.320 --> 00:52:34.480 All right. Let's just watch a little piece of this. 1057 00:52:35.420 --> 00:52:38.179 Hey, guys, you guys came out during chaos, dude. World 1058 00:52:38.219 --> 00:52:44.469 War III, Civil War, alien invasion, AI destruction, Armageddon, dog. 1059 00:52:45.349 --> 00:52:48.630 It's literally like all at once, dude. It's like a 1060 00:52:48.670 --> 00:52:50.989 Bukkake of death and destruction, right? 1061 00:52:51.369 --> 00:52:51.610 Yeah. 1062 00:52:54.280 --> 00:52:56.940 And I'm all for it, dude. I'm all for it, dude. 1063 00:52:57.019 --> 00:53:00.340 Bring it on because I'm tired of working, dude. I 1064 00:53:00.380 --> 00:53:08.469 need a day off, bro. Right? I'm just a field mule, dude. 1065 00:53:09.210 --> 00:53:11.090 Maybe at the end of days I get to stay 1066 00:53:11.110 --> 00:53:13.869 home for once, right? I work all day and all 1067 00:53:13.909 --> 00:53:17.199 I do is pay taxes to satanic pedophiles. That's my life. 1068 00:53:18.480 --> 00:53:20.559 I almost didn't even make it tonight. I'm still reading 1069 00:53:20.579 --> 00:53:21.500 the Epstein emails. 1070 00:53:22.909 --> 00:53:26.030 That's three million emails. That's a lot of emails, dude. 1071 00:53:26.769 --> 00:53:28.570 I'm going to say something that might not be popular, 1072 00:53:28.610 --> 00:53:30.710 but I got to say it, dude. I don't even 1073 00:53:30.750 --> 00:53:33.329 know how Epstein had time to molest children writing all 1074 00:53:33.369 --> 00:53:39.469 those emails, dude. That seems like a full-time job to me, dude. 1075 00:53:39.510 --> 00:53:41.179 You can say a lot about Epstein. One thing you 1076 00:53:41.199 --> 00:53:47.420 got to admit, he can multitask, huh? Typing molesting. Typing molesting. 1077 00:53:47.440 --> 00:53:53.059 All right. You must've had fun that night, huh? 1078 00:53:54.039 --> 00:53:57.719 You know, I'm very blessed that the, you know, this 1079 00:53:57.739 --> 00:54:00.280 is going to sound sad, but like, I don't get 1080 00:54:00.300 --> 00:54:02.099 a lot of love in LA like I used to. 1081 00:54:02.480 --> 00:54:04.809 And the people who've been very kind to me are 1082 00:54:04.889 --> 00:54:07.630 the Legion of skanks and gas digital. And even though 1083 00:54:07.670 --> 00:54:09.809 I've never been real part of that app, you know, 1084 00:54:09.829 --> 00:54:13.010 because I'm on the West coast, Louis Gomez, big J 1085 00:54:13.090 --> 00:54:15.679 Dave Smith, who's no longer there, but they were always 1086 00:54:15.719 --> 00:54:17.860 very kind to me. So when he called me, I 1087 00:54:17.880 --> 00:54:20.889 was excited to produce a special, have a special made 1088 00:54:20.909 --> 00:54:21.710 that wasn't produced. 1089 00:54:21.730 --> 00:54:22.780 Someone else wanted to make it. 1090 00:54:23.170 --> 00:54:24.909 And I just knew the lead, because if you ever 1091 00:54:24.949 --> 00:54:26.989 get a chance to do Skank Fest, it's like the 1092 00:54:27.030 --> 00:54:30.250 greatest comedy festival of all time. And I just know 1093 00:54:30.269 --> 00:54:33.429 their audience is pure fire. Like, look how big Big 1094 00:54:33.489 --> 00:54:35.380 J is now. Like, I got to watch him and 1095 00:54:35.400 --> 00:54:37.099 he killed it. So it was a lot of fun. 1096 00:54:37.139 --> 00:54:39.239 And I don't know, I do really well in Austin, 1097 00:54:39.260 --> 00:54:41.530 you know. So I knew it was going to be 1098 00:54:41.550 --> 00:54:44.329 a good time. And I got to work with Uncle 1099 00:54:44.389 --> 00:54:48.269 Laser and he was just a fire guy. Oh, that 1100 00:54:48.309 --> 00:54:49.730 was on something else. But I got to do it 1101 00:54:49.769 --> 00:54:52.369 with Uncle Laser, who's from Kill Tony. And I never 1102 00:54:52.449 --> 00:54:55.949 met him. And he was just a genuine good dude. 1103 00:54:56.230 --> 00:54:58.349 So two of us were able to do a show. 1104 00:54:58.429 --> 00:55:00.889 Our crowds mix really well. So we had a great 1105 00:55:00.949 --> 00:55:02.289 time and it was a

blast. And I just I 1106 00:55:02.530 --> 00:55:05.170 love any time someone includes me in something. It makes 1107 00:55:05.230 --> 00:55:08.570 me feel welcome. I owe them a big thank you 1108 00:55:08.590 --> 00:55:10.960 for that. I had the best time. Austin's wonderful. 1109 00:55:12.360 --> 00:55:16.539 That's great. What do you do? You play Rogan's Club 1110 00:55:16.559 --> 00:55:17.139 when you're there? 1111 00:55:17.860 --> 00:55:20.059 Yeah, I play the Mothership. I play the Creek of 1112 00:55:20.079 --> 00:55:23.690 the Cave. Rebecca is wonderful. She's got a great thing there. 1113 00:55:23.989 --> 00:55:26.090 And there's just, when you go to Austin, you feel 1114 00:55:26.130 --> 00:55:28.389 it like, you know, again, you know, you were, you 1115 00:55:28.429 --> 00:55:30.300 were part of two of the, two of the great 1116 00:55:30.480 --> 00:55:33.139 times at the comedy store and that juice you used 1117 00:55:33.159 --> 00:55:35.039 to get when you go to the store and the 1118 00:55:35.079 --> 00:55:37.980 store is great. It's not what's going on in Hollywood comedy. 1119 00:55:38.039 --> 00:55:41.639 Isn't the comedy clubs fall. It's, it's the locals. And 1120 00:55:42.039 --> 00:55:44.349 so you don't feel that anymore. You go to Austin, 1121 00:55:44.389 --> 00:55:46.750 you feel that energy, that creative. 1122 00:55:46.809 --> 00:55:48.269 I agree with you. I will tell you. 1123 00:55:48.289 --> 00:55:51.789 And you know, I, I don't play the Comedy Store 1124 00:55:51.809 --> 00:55:55.329 much anymore, but when I do, I just feel like 1125 00:55:55.349 --> 00:55:59.579 it's batting with a weight on. It's just like it's 1126 00:55:59.920 --> 00:56:04.699 not supposed to be like this. You're not supposed to 1127 00:56:04.760 --> 00:56:08.579 be doing stand-up to people that are judging it as 1128 00:56:08.639 --> 00:56:09.639 it comes out of your mouth. 1129 00:56:09.699 --> 00:56:10.340 Yes. 1130 00:56:10.639 --> 00:56:11.570 I agree. 1131 00:56:11.610 --> 00:56:12.309 I don't agree. 1132 00:56:12.349 --> 00:56:17.530 People that are enjoying them, that just came to be entertained, 1133 00:56:18.309 --> 00:56:21.010 When I go see a show, when I watch a movie, 1134 00:56:21.469 --> 00:56:22.449 I try. 1135 00:56:22.110 --> 00:56:24.269 To– I want to like it. 1136 00:56:24.510 --> 00:56:27.800 I want the person to win. 1137 00:56:27.880 --> 00:56:30.320 I'm not looking for fault. 1138 00:56:30.719 --> 00:56:34.079 And I feel like that for some reason in Hollywood, 1139 00:56:35.059 --> 00:56:38.199 at the Laugh Factory, at the Improv, and the store, 1140 00:56:39.079 --> 00:56:41.679 you get a very judgy audience. 1141 00:56:41.760 --> 00:56:41.909 Yes. 1142 00:56:42.070 --> 00:56:42.239 Yes. 1143 00:56:43.449 --> 00:56:45.090 And that's not how it used to be. It used 1144 00:56:45.110 --> 00:56:47.070 to be you did your crazy stuff in L.A. 1145 00:56:47.380 --> 00:56:48.780 And then you go on the road and have to 1146 00:56:48.840 --> 00:56:50.079 censor as you went there. 1147 00:56:50.619 --> 00:56:53.659 Now it's completely flipped. 1148 00:56:54.400 --> 00:56:55.239 Well, it used to be. 1149 00:56:55.360 --> 00:56:56.880 I got to tell you, when I was a kid, 1150 00:56:59.579 --> 00:57:03.469 I would go on the road and play colleges. I 1151 00:57:03.590 --> 00:57:07.309 remember Howie Mandel, Steve Wright, and I did a Budweiser 1152 00:57:07.550 --> 00:57:08.710 comedy college tour. 1153 00:57:08.750 --> 00:57:10.690 Oh, my God. That must have been so fun. 1154 00:57:11.170 --> 00:57:14.760 But back then, colleges were the coolest gigs you could get. 1155 00:57:15.420 --> 00:57:19.099 It was like shooting fish in a barrel. They just 1156 00:57:19.119 --> 00:57:22.599 were so glad to be here in live stand-up, and 1157 00:57:22.659 --> 00:57:26.170 we'd play big rooms. And I. 1158 00:57:28.170 --> 00:57:30.409 Don't think you could play at college anymore. 1159 00:57:31.289 --> 00:57:32.889 I think a lot of people don't want to. 1160 00:57:32.909 --> 00:57:35.909 I just don't think you can do it. 1161 00:57:35.949 --> 00:57:38.920 I don't think who's going to book a college? 1162 00:57:38.980 --> 00:57:42.130 People at these colleges... what we're going to have standup 1163 00:57:42.469 --> 00:57:45.449 comics come in and say whatever they want. No way. 1164 00:57:46.829 --> 00:57:49.530 It's crazy to me, dude. I, you know, again, going 1165 00:57:49.570 --> 00:57:53.340 back to, you know, I remember a friend wanted me 1166 00:57:53.400 --> 00:57:56.739 to check out this horror film and we were watching 1167 00:57:56.800 --> 00:57:59.920 it and it was so, I mean, like it's 10 1168 00:57:59.920 --> 00:58:01.960 times crazier than what we used to watch back in 1169 00:58:02.000 --> 00:58:02.400 the day. 1170 00:58:02.699 --> 00:58:04.199 And I'm like, turn this off. This is too much 1171 00:58:04.239 --> 00:58:04.820 for me, man. 1172 00:58:04.840 --> 00:58:08.690 And it's like, again, everything else is so extreme that, 1173 00:58:09.530 --> 00:58:12.929 But comedy, like these young guys are great writers, man. 1174 00:58:13.289 --> 00:58:15.469 I would say they're better writers than my generation at 1175 00:58:15.570 --> 00:58:18.710 our time. But I know everybody's act as they walk 1176 00:58:18.750 --> 00:58:20.369 to the stage. I can already know what they're going 1177 00:58:20.389 --> 00:58:23.320 to talk about. And it's all plug and play. I 1178 00:58:23.360 --> 00:58:27.320 call it demographic mascots. And, you know, again, with the 1179 00:58:27.360 --> 00:58:29.679 Shane Gillis thing, they're probably so scared to take a 1180 00:58:29.739 --> 00:58:32.139 chance now because they think they're going to get canceled. 1181 00:58:32.519 --> 00:58:34.980 So they're not making the art they really want to. 1182 00:58:36.719 --> 00:58:38.460 They think they have too much to lose. 1183 00:58:39.210 --> 00:58:44.349 Yeah, they're afraid. And they don't

understand. They don't have 1184 00:58:44.369 --> 00:58:47.159 anything to gain if they're not walking out on thin ice. 1185 00:58:48.679 --> 00:58:49.420 They really aren't. 1186 00:58:49.500 --> 00:58:52.820 And for me, when I got back into comedy, again, 1187 00:58:53.519 --> 00:58:56.480 it's not fair to judge me against them because I 1188 00:58:56.519 --> 00:59:00.820 was 65 years old and I didn't have a lot 1189 00:59:00.860 --> 00:59:04.329 to lose. I only had to gain if I didn't 1190 00:59:04.429 --> 00:59:06.650 just do the same thing every night. 1191 00:59:07.110 --> 00:59:07.530 You know? 1192 00:59:08.150 --> 00:59:11.150 And so I just gave myself rules. I said, I'm 1193 00:59:11.170 --> 00:59:14.030 going to go get the first laugh myself. It's not, 1194 00:59:14.110 --> 00:59:16.010 it's going to be based on something I heard the 1195 00:59:16.210 --> 00:59:19.360 guy before or, or this or something I made up 1196 00:59:19.409 --> 00:59:22.010 in the car on the way there. And I'm going 1197 00:59:22.030 --> 00:59:24.360 to never go up unless I have at least a 1198 00:59:24.420 --> 00:59:27.699 few minutes of all new stuff. And I'm not going to, 1199 00:59:27.719 --> 00:59:31.489 and I'm never going to censor myself. And I gave 1200 00:59:31.530 --> 00:59:36.110 myself that kind of set of rules. And that's why 1201 00:59:36.170 --> 00:59:39.369 I love it again. And even as a kid, and 1202 00:59:39.389 --> 00:59:40.849 I was very successful as a. 1203 00:59:40.869 --> 00:59:42.329 Kid, Sam. I really was. 1204 00:59:42.489 --> 00:59:43.469 Yeah, crushed it. 1205 00:59:43.929 --> 00:59:46.050 I got yeses to everything. 1206 00:59:46.070 --> 00:59:50.920 I got The Tonight Show and HBO specials and series. 1207 00:59:52.579 --> 00:59:56.559 But I found that I censored myself a lot. I 1208 00:59:56.699 --> 01:00:00.679 pulled back a lot. And even back then, there weren't 1209 01:00:00.699 --> 01:00:05.320 that many things to censor yourself about. But now I 1210 01:00:05.360 --> 01:00:09.539 feel like anybody who is playing by the rules doesn't 1211 01:00:09.579 --> 01:00:10.800 really understand the rules. 1212 01:00:11.739 --> 01:00:12.039 Yes. 1213 01:00:12.340 --> 01:00:17.820 And I also think self-censoring artists are dangerous. And I 1214 01:00:18.019 --> 01:00:22.159 think art needs to be an expression and it's meant 1215 01:00:22.199 --> 01:00:26.780 to provoke people. And it's meant to provoke a feeling. 1216 01:00:27.300 --> 01:00:30.860 And even like a boo is extracting a feeling. 1217 01:00:31.630 --> 01:00:34.329 I will give you a great example of that. And this, 1218 01:00:34.670 --> 01:00:36.670 you might not, but yeah, you'll love this. 1219 01:00:37.110 --> 01:00:41.090 Did you see Seinfeld the last few nights ago on 1220 01:00:41.150 --> 01:00:45.550 stage when, when, when those, the, the free Palestine kids 1221 01:00:45.570 --> 01:00:46.210 were heckling him? 1222 01:00:46.710 --> 01:00:47.010 Yeah. 1223 01:00:47.630

--> 01:00:49.389 He that's the funniest he's been. 1224 01:00:50.219 --> 01:00:55.139 You know, dude, I'm with you. Yeah. 1225 01:00:55.440 --> 01:00:59.929 Finally got some authenticity from the band. Yeah. 1226 01:01:00.320 --> 01:01:02.789 But but but he was great. He was great. 1227 01:01:02.869 --> 01:01:07.550 And where you stand, I think he just he started dancing. 1228 01:01:07.929 --> 01:01:11.610 You know, I mean, it just is like and to me, 1229 01:01:12.030 --> 01:01:15.969 there's a reason why crowd work is so popular right now. 1230 01:01:16.389 --> 01:01:20.650 Because they're looking for authenticity when they come to your show. 1231 01:01:21.130 --> 01:01:22.409 They really are. They really are. 1232 01:01:22.429 --> 01:01:26.929 You know, and, like, I love crowd work. I take 1233 01:01:26.989 --> 01:01:31.250 pride in my crowd work. But I will never abandon storytelling. 1234 01:01:31.369 --> 01:01:34.110 I think it's the highest form of art. I think 1235 01:01:34.510 --> 01:01:38.340 it's so beyond anything else. And maybe the last, like, 1236 01:01:38.360 --> 01:01:40.820 I get why crowd work is great. Because everyone's like, oh, 1237 01:01:40.840 --> 01:01:42.860 my God, he's just coming up with that. There's this 1238 01:01:42.960 --> 01:01:46.630 kind of magic that comes with that. but a story, 1239 01:01:46.650 --> 01:01:51.030 a five minute, eight minute, even 10 minute story is 1240 01:01:51.130 --> 01:01:54.269 so like powerful. And it's the greatest art and again, 1241 01:01:54.690 --> 01:01:57.869 clean comedy. Like the, one of the greatest shows I've 1242 01:01:57.909 --> 01:02:01.139 ever seen live was the Smothers Brothers at the comedy store. 1243 01:02:01.949 --> 01:02:04.699 And it was so smart and it was so funny. 1244 01:02:04.739 --> 01:02:07.519 And I remember I was really young watching it and 1245 01:02:07.559 --> 01:02:10.219 I was like, this is, these are masters and they 1246 01:02:10.239 --> 01:02:11.920 were great storytellers, dude. 1247 01:02:12.460 --> 01:02:15.500 Hey, Sammy, when I got, when I came from Detroit, 1248 01:02:16.460 --> 01:02:19.679 when I was 17 years old, I loved it. I 1249 01:02:19.719 --> 01:02:22.559 would go out to the ice house and see the 1250 01:02:22.599 --> 01:02:23.460 Smothers Brothers. 1251 01:02:23.739 --> 01:02:24.739 I love them, dude. 1252 01:02:24.880 --> 01:02:28.360 And they were brilliant. Brilliant. Brilliant. 1253 01:02:29.519 --> 01:02:31.119 One of the best shows I've ever seen. It was 1254 01:02:31.219 --> 01:02:36.340 so polished. And I realized I was watching like the 1255 01:02:36.409 --> 01:02:39.289 legends of my art. And it was just like such 1256 01:02:39.329 --> 01:02:41.880 a blessing to be able to see that. Like, You know, 1257 01:02:41.900 --> 01:02:44.440 when the store was trying to come back, you had 1258 01:02:44.480 --> 01:02:47.039 the old guys coming through, the guys, and I remember 1259 01:02:47.079 --> 01:02:49.360 watching George Carlin in the main room, and it was 1260 01:02:49.420 --> 01:02:51.949 like he was such a big part of my childhood 1261 01:02:52.030 --> 01:02:55.329 watching him, and I remember watching him, dude, and he 1262 01:02:55.369 --> 01:02:58.510 did the weirdest thing I've ever seen. He stood all 1263 01:02:58.570 --> 01:03:00.510 the way at the back of the stage, and it 1264 01:03:00.550 --> 01:03:02.789 was like very weird. He just stood there like this 1265 01:03:02.929 --> 01:03:05.989 at the back of the stage, and I was trying 1266 01:03:06.010 --> 01:03:06.510 to read it. 1267 01:03:06.550 --> 01:03:08.599 Was it psychological? Was it fear? 1268 01:03:08.699 --> 01:03:10.300 I mean, he's been doing it forever, so I don't 1269 01:03:10.320 --> 01:03:12.570 think it was fear, but it was like It was 1270 01:03:12.630 --> 01:03:13.710 just a blessing to watch. 1271 01:03:13.750 --> 01:03:15.510 I watched Rob Williams come back. 1272 01:03:16.210 --> 01:03:18.409 Well, can I just say one thing about George? Because 1273 01:03:18.469 --> 01:03:20.449 I kind of knew George. I didn't know him well, 1274 01:03:20.489 --> 01:03:22.929 but I knew him. And he was different than a 1275 01:03:23.050 --> 01:03:26.320 lot of people because he was so written. He was 1276 01:03:26.420 --> 01:03:33.480 so written and everything was written. And he did it 1277 01:03:33.539 --> 01:03:35.039 word for word the way he was going to do it. 1278 01:03:35.039 --> 01:03:36.969 And he practiced it over and over again. 1279 01:03:37.300 --> 01:03:39.550 And I think sometimes when he was doing new stuff, 1280 01:03:40.619 --> 01:03:42.590 that might've been why he was standing back. 1281 01:03:42.610 --> 01:03:46.449 Cause he was just like, he was, he got Bambi legs. 1282 01:03:46.889 --> 01:03:49.070 He was, you know, he was doing it robotically or 1283 01:03:49.190 --> 01:03:51.949 whatever to, to get it out the first few times, 1284 01:03:52.030 --> 01:03:55.289 you know? I mean, he just, he was so his, 1285 01:03:55.789 --> 01:03:59.739 he was so into writing his material and then performing 1286 01:03:59.780 --> 01:04:00.719 it perfectly. 1287 01:04:01.800 --> 01:04:04.019 And he set a precedence that I think a lot 1288 01:04:04.059 --> 01:04:06.659 of people tried to follow and they just weren't George Carlin, 1289 01:04:06.679 --> 01:04:08.880 which was putting out a special every year. 1290 01:04:09.460 --> 01:04:09.880 Yeah, that's right. 1291 01:04:09.900 --> 01:04:11.980 Like every year it's like another special. And like when 1292 01:04:12.000 --> 01:04:15.239 you're a wordsmith like that guy, it's a lot easier 1293 01:04:15.280 --> 01:04:17.119 to do when you're not. 1294 01:04:17.690 --> 01:04:20.849 It gets harder. That's right. I always feel bad. 1295 01:04:20.869 --> 01:04:24.030 I always feel bad for guys like Jezelnik and Steve Wright. 1296 01:04:24.329 --> 01:04:27.630 I was talking to Andy Huggins the other day. I mean, man, 1297 01:04:27.690 -->

01:04:31.190 when you do one-liners, you need 4,000 of them to. 1298 01:04:31.150 --> 01:04:31.750 Do a special. 1299 01:04:31.769 --> 01:04:35.789 You need so many jokes, dude. So many jokes. It's 1300 01:04:35.829 --> 01:04:39.909 like within an hour you probably got what? 300 jokes, dude, 1301 01:04:39.909 --> 01:04:42.389 200 jokes. That's a lot of jokes to write. 1302 01:04:42.809 --> 01:04:43.190 Yeah. 1303 01:04:43.409 --> 01:04:46.150 And that, you know, listen, that's what, why I think 1304 01:04:46.210 --> 01:04:49.849 Jessel Nick is brilliant because he's just pumped a lot 1305 01:04:49.889 --> 01:04:51.130 of specials out, you know? 1306 01:04:51.570 --> 01:04:52.789 No, he's great at it. 1307 01:04:52.989 --> 01:04:58.449 And to do that many one-liners, but listen, I, to me, 1308 01:04:59.570 --> 01:05:03.099 everybody's different. Everyone, everyone does it, you know? And I think, uh, 1309 01:05:04.539 --> 01:05:05.860 I love standup comedy. 1310 01:05:06.019 --> 01:05:06.679 I really do. 1311 01:05:07.159 --> 01:05:08.750 I love it. I love it. 1312 01:05:08.820 --> 01:05:12.820 And you know, it's a powerful art. I, I, I 1313 01:05:12.880 --> 01:05:15.219 meant it when I, when I said, when I opened the, the, 1314 01:05:15.460 --> 01:05:18.360 the show, you know, I, you were one of the 1315 01:05:18.429 --> 01:05:20.909 most interesting guys in standup comedy. 1316 01:05:20.949 --> 01:05:21.309 Thank you. 1317 01:05:21.429 --> 01:05:24.190 You know, when it's all said and done, when they 1318 01:05:24.289 --> 01:05:25.869 all said and done, they're going to just do an 1319 01:05:25.969 --> 01:05:28.570 autopsy and they're just going to go, this fucking guy. 1320 01:05:28.690 --> 01:05:30.789 Was wacko professor. 1321 01:05:30.809 --> 01:05:36.280 But, but, but, but, but, He just was funny and 1322 01:05:36.440 --> 01:05:39.000 fierce and it was exactly what was needed. 1323 01:05:39.420 --> 01:05:42.340 You know, I appreciate that. I do agree with you. 1324 01:05:42.500 --> 01:05:43.699 I am a crazy person. 1325 01:05:43.800 --> 01:05:46.559 So I, once you come to grips with that and 1326 01:05:46.599 --> 01:05:49.840 you just kind of like accept it and it's makes 1327 01:05:49.860 --> 01:05:51.079 your life a lot easier. 1328 01:05:51.699 --> 01:05:54.070 You know, you know, Sammy, I'll tell you a funny story. 1329 01:05:54.090 --> 01:05:55.829 I was at an Amy and the other day and 1330 01:05:55.849 --> 01:05:58.449 there was a guy and he shared and he said, 1331 01:05:59.090 --> 01:06:01.329 I've been looking for a sponsor for so long, but 1332 01:06:01.489 --> 01:06:02.389 I get to know them all. 1333 01:06:02.429 --> 01:06:04.530 And I realized they're just not, They're not what I'm 1334 01:06:04.570 --> 01:06:05.650 looking for. 1335 01:06:05.670 --> 01:06:08.269 And I remember there was an old guy named Fred 1336 01:06:08.329 --> 01:06:11.010 Ellis when I first came in. And he said, if 1337 01:06:11.170 --> 01:06:15.170 you're

looking for a perfect sponsor in AA, you're like 1338 01:06:15.829 --> 01:06:18.909 the guy who's looking to meet someone with perfect skin 1339 01:06:18.969 --> 01:06:20.840 at a leprosy colony. 1340 01:06:21.480 --> 01:06:23.900 I wholly agree, dude. Broken voice. 1341 01:06:23.920 --> 01:06:26.320 And that's the way, that's what I feel about comedians. 1342 01:06:26.440 --> 01:06:29.179 I mean, we're all bad meat in a can. 1343 01:06:29.579 --> 01:06:32.579 You know, we came here for a reason and we 1344 01:06:32.639 --> 01:06:36.440 needed that whatever it gives you for a reason. And 1345 01:06:36.480 --> 01:06:38.880 if you're looking for any one of us to be 1346 01:06:39.000 --> 01:06:42.840 perfect or any of your comedy friends to be perfect, 1347 01:06:43.940 --> 01:06:44.679 keep looking. 1348 01:06:45.719 --> 01:06:45.960 Yeah. 1349 01:06:46.059 --> 01:06:49.639 Again, we monetize our mental illness and, you know, the 1350 01:06:49.659 --> 01:06:53.510 crazier you are, usually the funnier you are. And that's 1351 01:06:53.570 --> 01:06:56.269 why I love it. It's like, if I didn't do 1352 01:06:56.309 --> 01:06:59.889 this and I could barely do this, I don't know 1353 01:06:59.909 --> 01:07:00.389 where I'd be. 1354 01:07:01.449 --> 01:07:03.840 And I quote you all the time. I love your line. 1355 01:07:04.289 --> 01:07:06.670 Your booze don't bother me. I've seen who you cheer. 1356 01:07:06.690 --> 01:07:09.750 Yeah, I love that from Rick and Morty's. I think 1357 01:07:09.789 --> 01:07:10.949 about that all the time. 1358 01:07:11.010 --> 01:07:13.989 Yeah, yeah. It's great. It's great. 1359 01:07:14.570 --> 01:07:17.449 But listen, buddy, I love you. I'm so happy about 1360 01:07:17.469 --> 01:07:22.269 your new special. And no, listen, this is your third 1361 01:07:22.329 --> 01:07:24.449 time on my podcast. 1362 01:07:24.510 --> 01:07:27.590 You've supported me. You've supported me more than anybody. 1363 01:07:27.869 --> 01:07:30.150 Anytime, buddy. I love you. You're an important person. 1364 01:07:31.079 --> 01:07:33.039 Well, thanks, man. Same back at you. 1365 01:07:33.099 --> 01:07:37.159 And just I hope some of these conspiracies you're wrong 1366 01:07:37.320 --> 01:07:39.079 on and I hope most of them you're right on. 1367 01:07:39.519 --> 01:07:40.239 Thank you, buddy. 1368 01:07:40.320 --> 01:07:40.820 I love you. 1369 01:07:40.940 --> 01:07:42.599 Thank you for your kindness. 1370 01:07:42.860 --> 01:07:44.719 You're a big reason why you're a big part of 1371 01:07:44.760 --> 01:07:47.800 why I got a big part in helping me get sober. 1372 01:07:47.820 --> 01:07:50.780 And I will eternally owe you forever for that. 1373 01:07:50.860 --> 01:07:53.079 So I think that's awesome. That's nice to see. Have 1374 01:07:53.099 --> 01:07:53.679 a great day. 1375 01:07:53.960 --> 01:07:56.699 You too, buddy. I love you. All right. 1376 01:07:57.489 --> 01:07:57.929 That's it. 1377 01:07:58.670 --> 01:08:02.090 Episode 108. the great Sam Tripoli. Check out his new special. 1378 01:08:02.449 --> 01:08:06.929 It's up there, Gaslight Digital. And I think you're really 1379 01:08:06.949 --> 01:08:10.280 going to enjoy it. And thanks for coming here. You 1380 01:08:10.320 --> 01:08:14.599 can get us on Apple and Spotify and wherever podcasts 1381 01:08:14.639 --> 01:08:23.220 are peddled. Go to standupworld.substack.com, Substack. And anytime you can 1382 01:08:23.359 --> 01:08:26.789 comment and rate and pass it along, I really appreciate it. 1383 01:08:29.170 --> 01:08:30.640 Thanks again. Love you.