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You never know who or what 37 00:02:32.719 --> 00:02:35.680 you're talking to, and they go in being so disrespectful. 38 00:02:36.000 --> 00:02:39.280 M I completely agree. And it's funny because you just 39 00:02:39.400 --> 00:02:43.719 hit like four on my list with just saying that 40 00:02:44.080 --> 00:02:49.960 being disrespectful and I completely agree with that. I'm looking 41 00:02:49.960 --> 00:02:56.960 at my stuff here and yeah, where you get the 42 00:02:56.960 --> 00:02:59.719 ghost hunters that? And we've all seen them on TV 43 00:03:01.080 --> 00:03:07.439 where they summon or they provoke, and you're absolutely right, 44 00:03:07.680 --> 00:03:09.560 you know you have a tiger by the tail. We 45 00:03:09.719 --> 00:03:14.000 really don't know what the paranormal is at the end 46 00:03:14.000 --> 00:03:15.919 of the day. And if you go running in there, 47 00:03:16.520 --> 00:03:20.360 you show yourself demon get out here right now, blah 48 00:03:20.360 --> 00:03:23.599 blah blah. You know what would happen? And I got 49 00:03:23.599 --> 00:03:25.520 to thinking about this when I was writing this up. 50 00:03:25.639 --> 00:03:27.879 It's like, what happened if that demon did decide to 51 00:03:27.919 --> 00:03:31.800 come out and kick your butt? You know, It's like, 52 00:03:31.840 --> 00:03:33.960 what would you do. Do you think that, you know, 53 00:03:34.039 --> 00:03:36.319 having your little sage stick with you or your little 54 00:03:36.360 --> 00:03:40.479 cross with you is going to you know, really handle 55 00:03:40.599 --> 00:03:47.199 a pissed off demonic entity. I seriously doubted. And so yeah, 56 00:03:47.400 --> 00:03:51.759 And also this made me think of the whole provoking thing. 57 00:03:53.080 --> 00:03:55.759 This made me think of what you've talked about with 58 00:03:55.879 --> 00:04:00.159 Kindred's Spirits where and I remember seeing an episode that 59 00:04:00.199 --> 00:04:08.840 you recommended on energy and how we as investigators can 60 00:04:09.039 --> 00:04:12.400 come into a place and there's a real strong possibility 61 00:04:12.400 --> 00:04:17.680 that we can leave energy, and so then the place 62 00:04:17.759 --> 00:04:22.199 becomes like this battery of the energy where it could 63 00:04:22.199 --> 00:04:24.600 be either very positive energy or it could be really 64 00:04:24.639 --> 00:04:27.639 negative energy. And if you're coming in there, I think 65 00:04:27.680 --> 00:04:34.199 of Haunted Hillhouse. So many investigators have been through there. 66 00:04:34.240 --> 00:04:36.399 By the way, I think we've mentioned it before. It's 67 00:04:36.439 --> 00:04:40.839 a haunted venue in Mineral Wells, Texas. It's really super 68 00:04:40.879 --> 00:04:47.399 active and it's very very commercial, so lots of people 69 00:04:47.800 --> 00:04:49.759 come through there. You can go visit there and do 70 00:04:50.000 --> 00:04:55.800 tours and do investigations, but they're pretty pricey. They priced 71 00:04:55.839 --> 00:05:00.279 us out, that's for sure. Last night last I think 72 00:05:00.399 --> 00:05:03.079 was like one thousand dollars for a weekend or something. 73 00:05:03.720 --> 00:05:07.800 I know, crazy even with ten people. I mean, come on, yeah, anyway, 74 00:05:08.360 --> 00:05:11.959 but yes, I thought that is like are we leaving 75 00:05:12.279 --> 00:05:18.120 residual fear or anger? You know? And what if you 76 00:05:18.800 --> 00:05:22.360 summon something and you go on your merry way and 77 00:05:22.399 --> 00:05:24.680 then the next people that come in have to deal 78 00:05:24.759 --> 00:05:30.600 with whatever it is that you summoned. So yeah, I 79 00:05:30.680 --> 00:05:34.040 ride along those same lines. And when it comes to 80 00:05:34.120 --> 00:05:40.519 people in property ash, yeah, it's like, don't even get 81 00:05:40.519 --> 00:05:47.399 me started on that simple straightforward things like, for example, 82 00:05:48.279 --> 00:05:54.560 don't post your findings online without permission. I've done investigations 83 00:05:54.600 --> 00:06:02.360 in churches, in historic homes, in kid friendly venues here 84 00:06:02.439 --> 00:06:06.399 in town that they don't want to be known for 85 00:06:06.519 --> 00:06:12.360 being spooky or haunted, or even somebody's home if say 86 00:06:12.399 --> 00:06:17.399 you post it on YouTube or TikTok or whatever, and 87 00:06:17.439 --> 00:06:23.199 then you don't properly keep the home or the place confidential. 88 00:06:23.720 --> 00:06:27.160 You could have people coming up there, oh hey, I 89 00:06:27.199 --> 00:06:31.360 saw you're on a house online, you know, and getting 90 00:06:31.399 --> 00:06:38.800 people getting pestered. Also related to that is going into 91 00:06:38.879 --> 00:06:45.079 places really kind of guns blazing with We've got logos 92 00:06:45.120 --> 00:06:49.560 all over our vehicles, we've got logos ghost hunting stuff 93 00:06:49.560 --> 00:06:53.680 all over our shirts and everything, and bringing in a 94 00:06:53.680 --> 00:06:59.160 whole bunch of people and causing this big ruckus there Again, 95 00:06:59.279 --> 00:07:04.560 the same thing if especially a homeowner, if they're like, Okay, 96 00:07:04.600 --> 00:07:07.920 we have some paranormal activity going on here, but we 97 00:07:07.959 --> 00:07:10.680 don't want the whole neighborhood to know it. You know. 98 00:07:11.319 --> 00:07:18.079 It's kind of that whole confidentiality thing and of course 99 00:07:18.199 --> 00:07:22.480 respect for property. There Again, I had this. I could 100 00:07:22.480 --> 00:07:25.600 not believe this. This is like I wanted to be 101 00:07:25.920 --> 00:07:29.040 this person. I had a group of students I think 102 00:07:29.040 --> 00:07:30.279 I've met. I don't know if I mentioned this on 103 00:07:30.319 --> 00:07:33.040 the show before. I had a group of students going 104 00:07:33.120 --> 00:07:37.319 through one of our historic homes to do an investigation.

105 00:07:37.600 --> 00:07:42.720 And the Historic Waco Society is they're so sweet and 106 00:07:42.759 --> 00:07:45.040 they allow us to go into the homes to investigate 107 00:07:45.079 --> 00:07:49.319 and think you, thank you, thank you, Eric Swanson, y'all 108 00:07:49.360 --> 00:07:54.160 are amazing. But they're museums and they've got antiques in them. 109 00:07:55.199 --> 00:08:01.439 And I had this one adult student. I don't know 110 00:08:01.439 --> 00:08:05.879 what possessed her to do this. She grabs an antique 111 00:08:06.240 --> 00:08:11.680 grandfather clock off a table and winds it all the 112 00:08:11.720 --> 00:08:15.439 way up until it's completely tight, and the thing, of course, 113 00:08:15.439 --> 00:08:18.360 starts going crazy. It starts like wong wong bong, you know, 114 00:08:18.439 --> 00:08:21.199 and making all of these ringing noises and everything, and 115 00:08:21.199 --> 00:08:23.160 I mean, we could not turn it off. The docent 116 00:08:23.279 --> 00:08:25.480 had to come in. They could not turn it off. 117 00:08:25.560 --> 00:08:32.960 I mean, she basically broke an antique clock. And I'm like, 118 00:08:33.960 --> 00:08:38.159 you should know better, you know, don't touch anything. This 119 00:08:38.279 --> 00:08:45.799 is a museum. So yeah, I felt I felt so bad. 120 00:08:46.559 --> 00:08:49.840 I was like apologizing like crazy, and I was thinking, 121 00:08:50.559 --> 00:08:52.480 you know, it took me a couple of years to 122 00:08:52.480 --> 00:08:56.399 build a good relationship with these people. I think I 123 00:08:56.480 --> 00:09:01.080 just blew it with this happening now. It's like, how 124 00:09:01.120 --> 00:09:03.600 could you let something like that irresponsible, you know, that 125 00:09:03.679 --> 00:09:07.799 irresponsibile happen. And luckily they were really sweet about it 126 00:09:07.840 --> 00:09:10.000 and they were able to fix the clock and put 127 00:09:10.000 --> 00:09:15.000 it back and stuff. Yeah, it's like respecting people, respecting 128 00:09:15.480 --> 00:09:21.440 the ghosts, respecting the property. And finally, on that, I 129 00:09:21.440 --> 00:09:25.039 told you a lot of these. Finally on that trespassing 130 00:09:27.200 --> 00:09:31.120 Texas especially, you might think, you know, you got to 131 00:09:31.120 --> 00:09:37.360 get permission from owners, but Texas has some like really 132 00:09:38.159 --> 00:09:42.919 really strict trespassing laws. In fact, I put them down here. 133 00:09:42.960 --> 00:09:46.159 They're misdemeanors. But you can either get a Class B misdemeanor, 134 00:09:46.679 --> 00:09:51.200 which is most trespassing cases, but that can carry fines 135 00:09:51.279 --> 00:09:53.320 up to two thousand dollars in one hundred and eighty 136 00:09:53.399 --> 00:09:56.840 days in jail. And then if you decide to bring 137 00:09:56.879 --> 00:10:01.159 your pew pew along, that could carry finds up to 138 00:10:01.200 --> 00:10:06.559 four thousand dollars a year in jail. Geez, exactly exactly, 139 00:10:07.399 --> 00:10:09.120 So you always want to you know. There again it 140 00:10:09.159 --> 00:10:12.559 goes to respect and do you really want to spend 141 00:10:12.679 --> 00:10:16.759 a year in Joe? What are you in for? Yeahs 142 00:10:16.879 --> 00:10:20.320 hunting ghost Yeah, you're gonna get so beat up. 143 00:10:20.879 --> 00:10:24.279 And I am glad that you brought that up because 144 00:10:24.279 --> 00:10:29.039 that was also on my list, was trespassing. And you know, 145 00:10:29.240 --> 00:10:32.679 just if it's a public park, like I mean here 146 00:10:32.679 --> 00:10:37.080 in town, we have Cameron Park. Yeah, obviously easily accessible. 147 00:10:37.320 --> 00:10:43.679 Don't really need permission to go out there. But I 148 00:10:43.720 --> 00:10:49.080 mean if it's you know, local residents ask because. And 149 00:10:49.159 --> 00:10:52.879 then if it's a hotel like we brought up Emily Morgan, 150 00:10:53.000 --> 00:10:57.080 it's you yes, as a public can go into the 151 00:10:57.159 --> 00:11:01.039 lobby and look around. But it's a hotel, like book 152 00:11:01.080 --> 00:11:01.639 a room. 153 00:11:01.799 --> 00:11:03.960 It's so easy to. 154 00:11:04.200 --> 00:11:10.679 Book a room, go in, investigate your room. And again, but 155 00:11:11.440 --> 00:11:14.120 book a room, and it can be respectful, walk around. 156 00:11:14.559 --> 00:11:16.919 If you're gonna walk around, be respectful with the other 157 00:11:16.960 --> 00:11:22.080 people that are there. Not everyone is into that. Not 158 00:11:22.320 --> 00:11:29.120 everyone wants that around them around their energy filled, which 159 00:11:29.159 --> 00:11:33.279 is great. That's why you book your own room. You 160 00:11:33.320 --> 00:11:36.679 can do whatever you want in your room and go 161 00:11:36.759 --> 00:11:41.279 do that. I mean, it's and you're not trespassing, you're 162 00:11:41.320 --> 00:11:45.159 paying money to be there, You're doing whatever you can 163 00:11:45.320 --> 00:11:50.679 to investigate stuff like that. But some people again just 164 00:11:50.720 --> 00:11:53.679 don't care about doing any of that. They're like, oh, 165 00:11:53.720 --> 00:11:56.279 we're going to go into this hotel and go pretend No. 166 00:11:57.240 --> 00:11:59.440 Yeah, it's like that's that's ridiculous. Who do you think 167 00:11:59.480 --> 00:12:01.879 you are? And I mean, yeah, the guests of course 168 00:12:01.919 --> 00:12:04.799 would rightfully complain, and I mean, and even if you're 169 00:12:04.840 --> 00:12:07.559 a guest at a hotel, I mean, first of all, 170 00:12:07.600 --> 00:12:11.960 some of these historic hotels are just gorgeous. I mean, 171 00:12:12.679 --> 00:12:14.600 why wouldn't you want to book a room? The Emily 172 00:12:14.600 --> 00:12:17.879 Morgan is a perfect example. It's in San Antonio. We've 173 00:12:17.919 --> 00:12:20.120 mentioned it a number of times. It's haunted as heck,

174 00:12:20.879 --> 00:12:26.279 and it's gorgeous. So not only you know, so it's 175 00:12:26.279 --> 00:12:28.519 worth first of all, it's worth every penny you're going 176 00:12:28.559 --> 00:12:31.240 to spend to stay there, just to stay there because 177 00:12:31.240 --> 00:12:35.440 it's so beautiful and has so much history and you 178 00:12:35.480 --> 00:12:38.120 get to ghost hunt and you get to have a 179 00:12:38.240 --> 00:12:43.039 legit ghost hunt. Yes, you can investigate your room. You 180 00:12:43.120 --> 00:12:46.120 have access to all the public areas, but yeah, even 181 00:12:46.159 --> 00:12:49.879 in those public areas, you're right, you're sharing those with 182 00:12:50.039 --> 00:12:59.440 other guests, be respectful, and yeah, it's it's like, I 183 00:12:59.480 --> 00:13:00.919 think it's kind of it's sad that we even have 184 00:13:00.960 --> 00:13:03.519 to go over stuff like this. And I would say 185 00:13:03.519 --> 00:13:06.200 probably ninety nine percent of our listeners out there are 186 00:13:06.279 --> 00:13:10.120 kind of sitting there going duh, which I hope, I 187 00:13:10.200 --> 00:13:14.440 really hope, but there's that you know, that few percent 188 00:13:15.120 --> 00:13:19.120 that might be listening that it's like, hey, knucklehead, you know, 189 00:13:19.519 --> 00:13:20.399 be respectful. 190 00:13:20.919 --> 00:13:25.519 It's definitely the younger and I say younger, I mean 191 00:13:25.600 --> 00:13:32.000 like newer investigators that maybe don't necessarily know this, and 192 00:13:32.080 --> 00:13:36.200 a lot of it, yes, is common sense, but when 193 00:13:36.200 --> 00:13:38.919 you're new to investigating, you're just like, oh, I wanna, 194 00:13:38.960 --> 00:13:41.240 I'm gonna go do this, I'm gonna go on this investigation, 195 00:13:42.039 --> 00:13:46.200 and you kind of ignore common sense to do it. 196 00:13:47.879 --> 00:13:54.039 Or it's somebody that is joins a team that chooses 197 00:13:54.159 --> 00:13:59.200 to ignore those common sense. You could be a well 198 00:13:59.320 --> 00:14:03.120 season mistigator join the team, and the team's like, whatever, 199 00:14:03.200 --> 00:14:05.320 we're going to do this anyway. We're gonna poke the 200 00:14:05.320 --> 00:14:07.600 bear in every way possible, right. 201 00:14:08.240 --> 00:14:11.840 Right, And that's yeah, that's that's there again. I mean, 202 00:14:12.039 --> 00:14:15.759 it's that back to the provoking and back to what 203 00:14:15.960 --> 00:14:18.639 I just I don't none, and I'm so glad that 204 00:14:18.759 --> 00:14:20.799 our group. Yes, I'm going to brag on our group 205 00:14:20.840 --> 00:14:22.720 again because well, you know, it's just the best group. 206 00:14:22.799 --> 00:14:27.200 I'm sorry everybody, but no, there's really really good groups 207 00:14:27.240 --> 00:14:31.360 out there. But but yeah, it's kind of like, I'm 208 00:14:31.360 --> 00:14:34.919 so glad that we don't do stuff like that. We 209

00:14:34.960 --> 00:14:39.879 don't provoke, we don't run into places and act all 210 00:14:39.960 --> 00:14:44.919 crazy and we're always very respectful of the history of 211 00:14:44.960 --> 00:14:50.039 the place and of you know, where we're at, and 212 00:14:50.159 --> 00:14:53.720 of the owners. And and the thing is is if 213 00:14:53.759 --> 00:14:58.000 you're trying to I get emails occasionally from people that 214 00:14:58.039 --> 00:15:03.360 are just starting out and they're wanting the number one reason, 215 00:15:03.440 --> 00:15:07.279 they're wanting to join our team. And you know, we 216 00:15:07.320 --> 00:15:09.399 really don't have a team. We're just a bunch of 217 00:15:09.639 --> 00:15:13.559 independent investigators that investigate together. And so I say, we 218 00:15:13.600 --> 00:15:15.919 don't have a team. But the number one reason is 219 00:15:15.960 --> 00:15:21.960 they want access. They want access to haunted locations. And 220 00:15:22.519 --> 00:15:24.840 I got an email not that long ago from someone 221 00:15:24.960 --> 00:15:27.960 and I was able to say, you know what, I've 222 00:15:28.000 --> 00:15:31.960 been doing this very long time, twenty plus years, and 223 00:15:32.360 --> 00:15:37.559 I said, it has taken me several years, several years 224 00:15:37.879 --> 00:15:46.000 to build trust and relationships with local business owners, people 225 00:15:46.039 --> 00:15:52.399 that are you know, at historical sites. It's not something 226 00:15:52.759 --> 00:15:55.120 it's not like the TV shows where you think that 227 00:15:55.240 --> 00:15:57.639 you're you're just going to be able to waltz in 228 00:15:57.679 --> 00:16:01.600 there and say hey, hey, I'm here to hunt ghosts, 229 00:16:01.799 --> 00:16:07.000 and you know, property owners are going to go not here, sorry, no, 230 00:16:09.360 --> 00:16:12.919 And so yeah, that respect, you got to start that 231 00:16:14.519 --> 00:16:18.000 and and show them that you can be respectful. You 232 00:16:18.000 --> 00:16:21.399 can respect them, you can respect the property, you can 233 00:16:21.440 --> 00:16:25.200 respect the law. I mean, you're not going to be 234 00:16:25.440 --> 00:16:29.840 sneaking in there without permission. And if there's activity going on, 235 00:16:30.080 --> 00:16:34.320 they're respectful of the activity there. Again, like you said, 236 00:16:34.360 --> 00:16:37.879 poking the bear, and some people they think, oh, we're 237 00:16:37.879 --> 00:16:40.159 going to go in there, and we're going to we 238 00:16:40.240 --> 00:16:44.039 really want to wild things up, and it's like. 239 00:16:45.000 --> 00:16:48.960 The stupid Finding the right group. I know you've said 240 00:16:48.960 --> 00:16:53.360 this before is the biggest for in my opinion, the 241 00:16:53.440 --> 00:16:58.200 biggest key factor when you're starting out. When you're starting out, yes, 242 00:16:58.360 --> 00:17:01.600 you're kind of doing things when you're and then one 243 00:17:01.799 --> 00:17:04.359 there will be a time when you quote unquote join 244 00:17:04.440 --> 00:17:08.440 a team. Yes, it happens to all of us. And 245 00:17:09.720 --> 00:17:16.319 I'm not gonna lie. I got lucky by finding a team. 246 00:17:16.359 --> 00:17:18.519 Like you say, we're not a team. We always refer 247 00:17:18.640 --> 00:17:19.400 to it as a team. 248 00:17:19.559 --> 00:17:23.319 Wait, we are a loosely affiliated team. 249 00:17:23.799 --> 00:17:28.720 It's like I got lucky finding a team that's more 250 00:17:28.759 --> 00:17:34.079 than just that. We genuinely are all friends. I can't 251 00:17:34.119 --> 00:17:37.640 tell you how many times we met up to grab coffee, 252 00:17:37.759 --> 00:17:41.319 to grab lunch, just to hang out. Have nothing to 253 00:17:41.359 --> 00:17:46.680 do with ghosts, and it's like, how many quote unquote 254 00:17:46.720 --> 00:17:50.039 teams do you have that where you care just oh, 255 00:17:50.559 --> 00:17:52.920 let's just go grab lunch really fast, or let's just 256 00:17:52.960 --> 00:17:55.480 go grab a cup of coffee because we have nothing 257 00:17:55.519 --> 00:18:00.279 better to do right now, and it's just a us 258 00:18:00.279 --> 00:18:01.960 for us to go out. And that's why I say 259 00:18:02.079 --> 00:18:05.400 I'm lucky by finding this team, and. 260 00:18:06.079 --> 00:18:06.720 I think. 261 00:18:08.319 --> 00:18:13.880 That's something you should be looking for. And I go 262 00:18:13.960 --> 00:18:16.759 on this whole tangent about it, because this whole what 263 00:18:16.920 --> 00:18:23.680 not to do is don't just join any team, yesso 264 00:18:24.160 --> 00:18:29.160 any not every team is for you. Yes you are 265 00:18:29.200 --> 00:18:31.599 not for every team, and every team's not for you. 266 00:18:32.079 --> 00:18:33.160 Yes they are. 267 00:18:33.039 --> 00:18:38.240 Gonna be teams that someone always puts themselves on a 268 00:18:38.240 --> 00:18:43.920 pedestal and says I'm the team leader. And it's every 269 00:18:43.960 --> 00:18:48.279 person's bringing their own set of talent, their own set 270 00:18:48.319 --> 00:18:51.359 of skills with their best at like we have Jeanette, 271 00:18:51.359 --> 00:18:58.240 that's amazing at EVPs, we have Georgina that's amazing at History. 272 00:18:58.480 --> 00:19:03.240 It's like, yeah, you got to find none of us 273 00:19:03.279 --> 00:19:05.799 could really put ourselves on a pedestal to say, oh, 274 00:19:05.799 --> 00:19:08.599 I'm the team leader. Well you kind of have to 275 00:19:08.640 --> 00:19:10.759 know how to do all of it and be amazing 276 00:19:10.799 --> 00:19:14.000 at all of it. When you know you're not amazing 277 00:19:14.319 --> 00:19:15.920 at everything. 278 00:19:16.240 --> 00:19:19.400 At least you should know. Yeah, and you're right. I mean, gosh, 279 00:19:19.440 --> 00:19:23.240 there are teams that I've seen where egos play a 280 00:19:23.279 --> 00:19:25.240 big role, and I

think that those are the teams 281 00:19:25.279 --> 00:19:28.240 that are not in it for the right reasons. They're 282 00:19:28.240 --> 00:19:30.519 in it for I want to get famous, I want 283 00:19:30.519 --> 00:19:33.799 my own YouTube show or my own TV show or 284 00:19:33.839 --> 00:19:37.480 whatever it is. And I think, and that's why I say, 285 00:19:37.960 --> 00:19:41.160 our team is, you know, team with air quotes between 286 00:19:41.200 --> 00:19:46.079 air quotes. It's because we don't have some kind of 287 00:19:46.279 --> 00:19:49.759 authority structure and that's it. We do not have a 288 00:19:49.880 --> 00:19:54.839 team leader. We do not have you know, investigators in training, 289 00:19:54.920 --> 00:19:57.880 we do not have an assistant leader. We don't have 290 00:19:57.960 --> 00:20:03.720 any of that crap. We don't manage one another. And 291 00:20:03.759 --> 00:20:09.519 for us, that works really well. And I don't know, 292 00:20:09.559 --> 00:20:12.160 it's just, yeah, everybody brings something different to the table. 293 00:20:12.240 --> 00:20:14.839 We all really work together well. And that is I 294 00:20:14.880 --> 00:20:16.599 think that is so key. If you're going to be 295 00:20:16.680 --> 00:20:20.119 joining a team, vet the team, make sure you're a 296 00:20:20.160 --> 00:20:24.480 good fit, and make sure that they're a legitimate team. 297 00:20:24.720 --> 00:20:27.319 I mean, there's a lot of really good teams out there, 298 00:20:27.400 --> 00:20:30.519 and I've met investigators from other teams that are great, 299 00:20:32.200 --> 00:20:34.160 but there are some teams out there. I've heard stories 300 00:20:34.200 --> 00:20:37.359 where there were complaints about one team because all they 301 00:20:37.400 --> 00:20:40.359 did was go in the cemetery after dark and smoke 302 00:20:40.440 --> 00:20:44.000 weed and it's kind of you know, and then they 303 00:20:44.039 --> 00:20:47.759 just kind of party and drink and it's kind of like, yeah, 304 00:20:47.759 --> 00:20:49.599 you don't want to be a part of that. Yes, 305 00:20:51.400 --> 00:20:54.440 And as for you know, kind of along the same lines, 306 00:20:54.480 --> 00:20:58.400 you know, being safe and making good decisions on where 307 00:20:58.440 --> 00:21:02.960 you're going to investigate. I heard a story where there 308 00:21:03.079 --> 00:21:06.319 was this this person that was new to the field 309 00:21:06.359 --> 00:21:07.839 and there again because I made me think of this 310 00:21:07.880 --> 00:21:11.200 because you're like, you know, they're excited and they oh, 311 00:21:11.240 --> 00:21:13.920 you know, oh my goodness, this place is haunted. I 312 00:21:13.960 --> 00:21:16.960 got to get in there. Well, they had a situation 313 00:21:17.160 --> 00:21:20.680 like that presented to them. It was a meth lab. 314 00:21:21.799 --> 00:21:24.920 And it's kind of like thankfully they had people that 315 00:21:25.880 --> 00:21:29.359 counseled them not

to go in there. It's like, yeah, 316 00:21:29.359 --> 00:21:31.559 but there could be all kinds of activity in there, 317 00:21:31.599 --> 00:21:33.720 and it's like it's a meth lab. 318 00:21:35.319 --> 00:21:35.559 You know. 319 00:21:36.319 --> 00:21:42.000 It's like you can't pick a more dangerous spot to 320 00:21:42.119 --> 00:21:45.200 go investigate, you know, it's like what the building could 321 00:21:45.200 --> 00:21:48.480 blow up and make you a ghost, or you could 322 00:21:48.519 --> 00:21:51.480 have the cops come raid and you get arrested, or 323 00:21:51.680 --> 00:21:56.839 you know people high on methew. Yeah, and don't be stupid. 324 00:21:57.039 --> 00:21:59.680 I will say, you know is because you brought up 325 00:21:59.680 --> 00:22:06.400 the whole you do and we all, ever so slightly wish. 326 00:22:06.160 --> 00:22:09.039 We could do ghost hunting full time. 327 00:22:09.279 --> 00:22:14.599 Every single investigator wishes, Yeah, if that's your sole purpose 328 00:22:14.720 --> 00:22:19.319 for ghost hunting, you probably shouldn't be doing it because 329 00:22:19.359 --> 00:22:24.960 there is so much more two ghost hunting than just oh, 330 00:22:25.000 --> 00:22:27.880 this is an easy quick way for me to get famous, 331 00:22:27.920 --> 00:22:30.599 this and that, and I see a lot of it 332 00:22:30.680 --> 00:22:36.039 on TikTok and it's like, yeah, they have millions of 333 00:22:36.119 --> 00:22:39.839 followers and this and that, and then I see TikTokers 334 00:22:39.920 --> 00:22:45.240 using like a necrothonic and this and that, but they're 335 00:22:45.319 --> 00:22:51.079 never actually like searching for intelligent spirits. The spirit could 336 00:22:51.079 --> 00:22:54.440 say oh, I'm twenty, and then they say, oh, hey, spirit, 337 00:22:54.519 --> 00:22:58.839 you're twenty, and it's like what's your name? And then 338 00:22:58.880 --> 00:23:03.680 it's just like something crazy off the wall. It's like 339 00:23:04.039 --> 00:23:06.519 I'm here over there. 340 00:23:07.160 --> 00:23:08.400 It's what. 341 00:23:10.119 --> 00:23:12.680 None of this is making sense, Like you're not getting 342 00:23:12.720 --> 00:23:18.240 intelligence spirit, Like if that's your sole purpose. Have fun 343 00:23:18.279 --> 00:23:21.480 with the gimmicks and have fun with the I'm gonna 344 00:23:21.480 --> 00:23:25.000 pretend to pope the bear, and then pay the consequences later. 345 00:23:25.079 --> 00:23:28.359 Yes, they pay the consequence. You may pay some real consequences. 346 00:23:28.880 --> 00:23:30.960 But yeah, yeah, it's it's kind of like if that's 347 00:23:31.000 --> 00:23:33.119 what you're only wanting to do, is just get scared 348 00:23:33.319 --> 00:23:37.920 or scare other people or yeah, I mean it's it's 349 00:23:38.000 --> 00:23:40.720 not the right motivation. I mean, if you really want 350 00:23:40.759 --> 00:23:45.400 to be a serious investigator, I I you're bringing up 351 00:23:45.400 --> 00:23:51.599

the necrophonic brings me to another don't do The necrophonic 352 00:23:51.640 --> 00:23:53.400 For those of you who don't know, is a spirit 353 00:23:53.480 --> 00:23:56.599 It's a type of spirit box app that spits out 354 00:23:56.640 --> 00:24:01.160 these what are called phoneans or parts of words, and 355 00:24:01.359 --> 00:24:04.799 the theory goes that you can turn on the necrophonic 356 00:24:05.079 --> 00:24:11.160 and you can get spirit communication because the spirits can 357 00:24:11.160 --> 00:24:16.079 supposedly manipulate the sounds in the necrophonic. It's very creepy 358 00:24:16.119 --> 00:24:19.720 sounding app, but I like it. It's a fun app to. 359 00:24:19.799 --> 00:24:22.839 Use, fantastic, especially if you don't have access to a 360 00:24:22.920 --> 00:24:23.599 spirit box. 361 00:24:23.799 --> 00:24:28.680 Yeah. Yeah, it's like it's on your phone. But the 362 00:24:28.759 --> 00:24:31.680 thing is, when you're using those types of apps like 363 00:24:31.720 --> 00:24:34.680 the necrophonic or a legit spirit box, which is a 364 00:24:34.680 --> 00:24:37.839 little box. I think we've mentioned these two where it 365 00:24:38.000 --> 00:24:41.559 cycles through radio stations really quickly and creates white noise 366 00:24:42.000 --> 00:24:45.480 and supposedly you could get communication through that, and I've 367 00:24:45.519 --> 00:24:49.960 gotten some communication through that as well. They do work. 368 00:24:50.000 --> 00:24:53.039 They're kind of cool when you know you're getting some 369 00:24:53.279 --> 00:24:59.200 interesting communication that's making sense. But it's and this is 370 00:24:59.240 --> 00:25:03.279 where I see what not to do. Is there's something 371 00:25:03.319 --> 00:25:08.720 called paradilia and we've nicknamed it Prairie dog dandelion, which 372 00:25:09.319 --> 00:25:16.519 is our brains are wired up to make sense of nonsense. 373 00:25:16.880 --> 00:25:21.079 I mean, there were patterns seeking and so you know, 374 00:25:21.119 --> 00:25:22.839 you're looking at the clouds as a kid and you 375 00:25:22.920 --> 00:25:25.160 see a bunny or a puppy or whatever. And so 376 00:25:26.000 --> 00:25:32.240 it's really easy with these spirit boxeror necrophonic apps to 377 00:25:32.319 --> 00:25:37.720 start creating a narrative vin made from just random words 378 00:25:37.799 --> 00:25:43.000 or random noises. And you have to be careful of that. 379 00:25:43.680 --> 00:25:46.880 You know. It's like you turn on your necrophonic and 380 00:25:46.920 --> 00:25:49.680 you know, oh, what is your name? Oh it's Mary, 381 00:25:50.359 --> 00:25:53.160 Oh okay, Mary, and then you hear the word lamb, 382 00:25:53.519 --> 00:25:55.799 you know, and then everybody, oh my gosh, Mary had 383 00:25:55.839 --> 00:25:59.599 little lambs, you know, fleeces, white snow, you know whatever. 384 00:26:00.279 --> 00:26:04.079 Our brains are just that quick to start making up stories. 385 00:26:04.640 --> 00:26:12.240 And what to do in that situation is triangulate. Is 386 00:26:12.240 --> 00:26:15.799 everybody hearing the same thing? You know I heard? And 387 00:26:16.160 --> 00:26:19.000 we do this just kind of instinctively. It's like, okay, 388 00:26:19.000 --> 00:26:21.920 what did it say? Well, I thought I heard this. Okay, well, 389 00:26:22.000 --> 00:26:25.200 if I heard that, I thought I heard Steve. Well, 390 00:26:25.240 --> 00:26:27.960 I thought I heard Bob, you know, or you know, 391 00:26:28.119 --> 00:26:32.920 kind of corroborating what everybody hears. And I mean, yes, 392 00:26:33.000 --> 00:26:36.200 that's open to suggestibility. You know, if one person hears Bob, 393 00:26:36.240 --> 00:26:39.039 other people might hear Bob too, and you just have 394 00:26:39.119 --> 00:26:43.480 to work with your team on that. But also to 395 00:26:43.519 --> 00:26:47.799 try and dealing with that our equipment, and you know, 396 00:26:47.880 --> 00:26:50.960 it's kind of like, okay, we're hearing, we're hearing communication 397 00:26:51.160 --> 00:26:55.480 through the spirit box and oh my gosh, look Alison's 398 00:26:55.839 --> 00:26:59.000 SLS camera is picking up figures and oh my gosh, 399 00:26:59.039 --> 00:27:03.480 Cindy's Trifield meds are going off the charts. And then 400 00:27:03.759 --> 00:27:07.920 you add another layer with the psychics and the sensitives 401 00:27:08.680 --> 00:27:12.000 and they're like, oh my gosh, I'm really picking up 402 00:27:12.720 --> 00:27:15.160 this that or the next thing or this that or 403 00:27:15.200 --> 00:27:19.400 the next person. And so the more sources you can 404 00:27:19.480 --> 00:27:25.599 get to kind of to triangulate with your spirit box sessions, 405 00:27:25.720 --> 00:27:28.559 the better, because I see lots of people get really 406 00:27:28.559 --> 00:27:31.200 excited about the spirit boxes. They're kind of cool and 407 00:27:31.279 --> 00:27:36.160 spooky and they run with it, and it's kind of like, no, 408 00:27:37.559 --> 00:27:42.079 like you just said, you're just stringing together random words. 409 00:27:42.799 --> 00:27:43.880 There's nothing here. 410 00:27:44.319 --> 00:27:48.119 Also, knowing the history of the location. 411 00:27:47.920 --> 00:27:48.920 Helps a lot. 412 00:27:49.160 --> 00:27:55.599 Oh, yes, because I mean you get something out of 413 00:27:55.640 --> 00:28:02.839 the crazy, like like the Doctor prep Museum with their ghost, 414 00:28:03.279 --> 00:28:07.519 you get their name. If you don't know their name, 415 00:28:07.680 --> 00:28:09.279 and it's like, why is this coming up? 416 00:28:09.319 --> 00:28:10.720 Why is this person's name is? 417 00:28:11.039 --> 00:28:13.640 What is it? And then you do your research and 418 00:28:13.680 --> 00:28:17.640 you're like, oh, that's why this person's name is coming 419 00:28:17.720 --> 00:28:21.119 up because they worked here and this and that, and 420 00:28:21.160 --> 00:28:25.039 it's like now it's

making sense. Now you're piecing things together. 421 00:28:25.799 --> 00:28:29.160 What you're saying, you're connecting it all to make sense 422 00:28:29.359 --> 00:28:32.799 of the story. But if you don't know the history, 423 00:28:33.759 --> 00:28:36.400 you're not You're just like, oh, it's just a random name. 424 00:28:37.119 --> 00:28:37.640 Mm hmmm. 425 00:28:38.240 --> 00:28:41.160 That is so true. And I love the example of 426 00:28:41.200 --> 00:28:45.720 the Doctor Pepper Museum because when we did an investigation 427 00:28:45.799 --> 00:28:49.519 before they started doing their tours. Georgina did a dowsing 428 00:28:49.599 --> 00:28:53.079 rod session and was asking the first letter of the 429 00:28:53.720 --> 00:28:56.599 name of the person she was talking to, and it 430 00:28:56.640 --> 00:29:01.559 was S. And she was she's such a great dowsing 431 00:29:01.640 --> 00:29:04.640 rod person. She was savvy enough, and it's like, does 432 00:29:04.640 --> 00:29:07.839 your name begin with an S? And the answer was no. 433 00:29:09.319 --> 00:29:12.880 And she goes, do you have a nickname that begins 434 00:29:12.920 --> 00:29:17.480 with the letter S? And the answer was yes. Knowing 435 00:29:17.720 --> 00:29:20.960 the history of the Doctor Pepper Museum and doing a 436 00:29:20.960 --> 00:29:24.640 little research, we found out that there was one death 437 00:29:25.640 --> 00:29:29.039 on the premises during the tornado and it was a worker. 438 00:29:29.079 --> 00:29:34.799 His name was Vernon, his nickname Shorty, And so now 439 00:29:34.920 --> 00:29:38.240 there's all kinds of communication with Shorty, who is a 440 00:29:38.359 --> 00:29:44.920 very I don't know, he's a very playful spirit. But yeah, 441 00:29:45.119 --> 00:29:49.640 we would not have known that had we not known 442 00:29:50.240 --> 00:29:54.799 the history of the museum. So yeah, super important. 443 00:29:56.039 --> 00:30:02.359 It's just knowing stuff like that and also going to 444 00:30:02.440 --> 00:30:11.079 a location having an unrealistic expectation of getting hits every 445 00:30:11.119 --> 00:30:17.160 single time is you're just not gonna get something every time. 446 00:30:17.599 --> 00:30:20.640 You can spend what really. 447 00:30:21.160 --> 00:30:25.680 And I think what not to do is go in 448 00:30:26.039 --> 00:30:32.599 having that unrealistic expectation go it's hope for the best, 449 00:30:32.799 --> 00:30:38.359 expect the worst. You go in expecting that you're gonna 450 00:30:38.440 --> 00:30:44.559 get nothing, but you're hoping you're gonna get something because 451 00:30:44.960 --> 00:30:48.039 it's we said it. I don't even know how many times, 452 00:30:48.119 --> 00:30:52.279 hundreds of times people place time. Yes, you might be 453 00:30:52.359 --> 00:30:55.400 the right person at the right place, but the wrong time. 454 00:30:55.480 --> 00:30:58.680 It could be the right time, right place, wrong person. 455 00:30:59.640 --> 00:31:04.279 There's so many scenarios, and it's you can't predict that. 456 00:31:04.480 --> 00:31:07.880 You can't be like, oh this, you might be getting 457 00:31:08.119 --> 00:31:12.599 hits on the cat balls, but then you get nothing else. 458 00:31:13.720 --> 00:31:16.519 It's like, okay, cool, this is the room that they 459 00:31:16.640 --> 00:31:19.680 like to go to. Maybe the next time you go 460 00:31:19.720 --> 00:31:22.599 to that location, you stirt off in that room, you start, 461 00:31:22.839 --> 00:31:24.640 you know, or you spend most of your time in 462 00:31:24.640 --> 00:31:28.400 that room, because that's where you're getting that's where you're 463 00:31:28.440 --> 00:31:30.119 getting the hits the most. 464 00:31:30.279 --> 00:31:31.440 Yeah, but it's no. 465 00:31:31.519 --> 00:31:33.480 Guarantee that you're gonna get it. 466 00:31:33.920 --> 00:31:36.759 YEP. I say that ghost hunting's like fishing. If you 467 00:31:36.960 --> 00:31:41.160 like to fish, you'll probably like ghost hunting because you know, 468 00:31:41.200 --> 00:31:43.160 if you're in and I've talked to somebody fishermen and 469 00:31:43.160 --> 00:31:45.319 they're like, oh, Okay. Yeah, it's like, yeah, you go 470 00:31:45.359 --> 00:31:47.799 out of the lake. It's a beautiful day. You know, 471 00:31:47.960 --> 00:31:50.319 the weather's perfect, the fish seem to be you know, 472 00:31:50.400 --> 00:31:54.920 you've heard they were biting, and you get nothing all 473 00:31:55.319 --> 00:31:59.440 day long. But you get to sit there and enjoy 474 00:31:59.440 --> 00:32:02.160 the weather and enjoy the company. And that's how it 475 00:32:02.200 --> 00:32:04.839 is with ghost hunting. I mean, yeah, we like sitting 476 00:32:04.880 --> 00:32:07.960 around in dusty, old spooky buildings and hang out with 477 00:32:08.000 --> 00:32:10.559 each other. And that goes back to the ole team thing. 478 00:32:13.359 --> 00:32:17.599 Oh my gosh, I just noticed that my EMF meter 479 00:32:18.559 --> 00:32:21.960 is going crazy, just that one. Oh that one just 480 00:32:22.000 --> 00:32:25.160 went off. Now, yeah, it's going nuts here, hold on 481 00:32:26.960 --> 00:32:32.720 taking a break. Care it's crazy. Okay, we've got some 482 00:32:32.960 --> 00:32:35.559 crazy I'm just doing all recording here. We've got some 483 00:32:35.799 --> 00:32:42.839 crazy EMF readings here going on in the library. This 484 00:32:42.920 --> 00:32:45.720 one over here in my left it's going off too. 485 00:32:46.279 --> 00:32:48.839 We're gonna do just a little quick impromptu here. Is 486 00:32:48.880 --> 00:32:54.079 anybody here that would like to speak to us? Do 487 00:32:54.160 --> 00:32:56.440 you have anything you would like to add to our conversation? 488 00:33:00.640 --> 00:33:02.880 What would you like to add to our conversation. We're 489 00:33:02.920 --> 00:33:05.920 thinking that somebody is here and would really like to 490 00:33:06.000 --> 00:33:09.480 chime in. What have

you got for us. 491 00:33:10.480 --> 00:33:14.319 If you speak close to the screenlight on this microphone, 492 00:33:14.400 --> 00:33:17.599 it'll pick it up, I promise, I hope. 493 00:33:18.039 --> 00:33:24.240 Yeah, fingers, yes, please please don't ms with our electronics. 494 00:33:24.599 --> 00:33:27.240 As we were talking about, we are not going to 495 00:33:27.279 --> 00:33:28.519 get hits every single time. 496 00:33:29.519 --> 00:33:33.480 That is very interesting. Yes, yes, we're going off on 497 00:33:33.559 --> 00:33:39.279 this big beloviating pontification and okay, now we're seeing that. 498 00:33:39.559 --> 00:33:44.119 Now we're quiet. Now we're quiet. Okay, but if there's 499 00:33:44.160 --> 00:33:47.400 anything you'd like to add, please please step up to 500 00:33:47.440 --> 00:33:52.640 the microphone there and join our conversation. I'm going to 501 00:33:52.680 --> 00:33:57.000 stop recording now and we'll be playing this back later. 502 00:33:58.680 --> 00:34:05.839 Thank you for joining us. Anybody's here that's freaking crazy 503 00:34:08.920 --> 00:34:12.559 for them to go back to nothing? Yeah, yeah, we've got. 504 00:34:14.559 --> 00:34:16.679 I guess we hit the nail on the head that. 505 00:34:18.719 --> 00:34:23.920 Let me tell you a singer too, Yes, yes, but 506 00:34:24.039 --> 00:34:29.039 when you do get something, it's awesome. So I am. 507 00:34:29.519 --> 00:34:32.360 I'm I'm going to keep bringing my MF meters. Yes, 508 00:34:32.599 --> 00:34:34.679 that's crazy. 509 00:34:34.440 --> 00:34:38.480 I will say though. It's just that's what makes you 510 00:34:38.519 --> 00:34:42.519 know the right team so special is when Yeah, I 511 00:34:42.559 --> 00:34:45.039 mean you just like what happened. We're just talking and 512 00:34:45.119 --> 00:34:49.599 you know the energy that you're creating could be just 513 00:34:49.880 --> 00:34:53.480 right for something to happen m hm, and you never 514 00:34:53.679 --> 00:34:59.960 know when and it just magically start. 515 00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:03.320 What is happening happening absolutely, and. 516 00:35:05.000 --> 00:35:08.920 You know it's That's the awesome thing about having a 517 00:35:09.519 --> 00:35:13.360 or being a part of a good team is being 518 00:35:13.400 --> 00:35:16.559 able to sit there, being able to just even if 519 00:35:16.559 --> 00:35:24.079 it's un like, if it's not ghost related, yeah I'm ghostly, ghostly, ghostly, 520 00:35:24.199 --> 00:35:26.360 just to be able to talk and hang out and 521 00:35:26.400 --> 00:35:32.480 then yeah, when somebody realizes something's going on, it's like, oh, 522 00:35:32.679 --> 00:35:34.679 oh yeah, that's what we were doing and it's like, 523 00:35:34.679 --> 00:35:37.440 oh yeah, yeah, well that's fun. 524 00:35:37.480 --> 00:35:40.360 I mean, yeah it is. I will say, yes, it's 525 00:35:40.719 --> 00:35:45.800 worth the weight. And it does help that if you're 526 00:35:45.800 --> 00:35:49.320 a very patient person and you enjoy history and historical 527 00:35:49.360 --> 00:35:53.039 buildings and hanging out in spooky places, that all helps 528 00:35:53.039 --> 00:35:56.679 because even if you don't get anything, hey we we 529 00:35:56.719 --> 00:35:59.199 got to hang out, we got to test out some 530 00:35:59.280 --> 00:36:01.599 of our it's never a loss. We got to test 531 00:36:01.639 --> 00:36:04.519 some of our equipment, we got to test some new techniques, 532 00:36:05.079 --> 00:36:07.360 we got to learn about this really cool building that 533 00:36:07.440 --> 00:36:10.599 we're in. So it's never a loss. And I think 534 00:36:10.639 --> 00:36:14.320 the people and I find it's usually very new people, 535 00:36:14.639 --> 00:36:17.480 very new people to the field, and what gets them 536 00:36:17.519 --> 00:36:21.400 interested are the shows. And you've got to keep in mind, 537 00:36:22.360 --> 00:36:24.559 and I know that most of the listeners already know this. 538 00:36:25.079 --> 00:36:28.159 You got to keep in mind that those shows they've 539 00:36:28.480 --> 00:36:33.880 edited down hours and hours days sometimes of footage and 540 00:36:33.920 --> 00:36:40.760 they've condensed it into an hour and that's and so yes, 541 00:36:40.800 --> 00:36:43.559 of course it's going to look like just NonStop action, 542 00:36:44.639 --> 00:36:50.719 and it's like no, no, these things happened over the 543 00:36:50.719 --> 00:36:56.760 course of several hours or days sometimes, so a lot 544 00:36:56.800 --> 00:37:03.800 of it is going to be just waiting, watching being ready. 545 00:37:05.320 --> 00:37:07.880 I don't like, we're like, really, we're giving an eye 546 00:37:07.920 --> 00:37:12.159 on the meters being ready. And that goes to something 547 00:37:12.199 --> 00:37:18.079 else that I want to to say, kind of relatedly, 548 00:37:19.239 --> 00:37:21.480 is yes, number one, don't believe everything that you see 549 00:37:21.480 --> 00:37:24.599 on the shows. There's a lot of editing that goes 550 00:37:24.639 --> 00:37:28.960 into it, a lot of takes and retakes. It's like, oh, hey, 551 00:37:29.360 --> 00:37:32.360 you were in the shadows, can you please step over 552 00:37:32.400 --> 00:37:34.519 to the left, we need to redo that scene. There's 553 00:37:34.559 --> 00:37:39.239 stuff like that. It's not spontaneous, but being ready in 554 00:37:39.280 --> 00:37:42.320 a real situation. And this is kind of a a 555 00:37:42.760 --> 00:37:46.360 but make sure that all of your electronics are fully charged, 556 00:37:47.880 --> 00:37:52.800 bring charging banks or blocks if you can, and make 557 00:37:52.840 --> 00:37:57.000 sure you have extra batteries and those batteries that are 558 00:37:57.000 --> 00:38:02.639 in your equipment are fresh, because there have been many 559 00:38:02.760 --> 00:38:09.920 times where batteries and electronic power has drained. It's it's 560 00:38:09.960 --> 00:38:14.920 pretty common in paranormal

investigations where you know what, okay, 561 00:38:15.159 --> 00:38:18.360 oh my, you know, I put new batteries in my 562 00:38:18.519 --> 00:38:21.159 meter and it just drained. Okay, I guess I'm gonna 563 00:38:21.159 --> 00:38:22.960 have to replace the batteries. And you want to make 564 00:38:23.000 --> 00:38:27.760 sure that because of your equipment's being drained of energy, Yeah, 565 00:38:28.400 --> 00:38:30.760 something's going on, and you want to make sure that 566 00:38:30.800 --> 00:38:32.360 you're able to keep going. 567 00:38:33.239 --> 00:38:38.280 Yes, And my my biggest recommendation is to have that 568 00:38:38.440 --> 00:38:43.159 because if your equipment is getting trained, you know there's 569 00:38:43.239 --> 00:38:46.000 going to be something popping off sometime soon. 570 00:38:46.519 --> 00:38:50.079 Yes, So you don't want to be as you don't 571 00:38:50.119 --> 00:38:53.440 want to be stuck as a sitting dug no and 572 00:38:53.679 --> 00:38:56.719 be like, oh, well, batteries dead and then all this 573 00:38:57.320 --> 00:38:59.039 you know, activities happen and you're. 574 00:38:58.920 --> 00:39:02.719 Like, yeah, all of a sudden, the stave puff marshmallow 575 00:39:02.800 --> 00:39:06.840 man walks. Yeah. Yeah, And that's the thing. And I mean, 576 00:39:07.000 --> 00:39:10.920 you want to beta be ready, you know, and so. 577 00:39:11.159 --> 00:39:15.000 And part of that is with the electronics and making 578 00:39:15.039 --> 00:39:18.960 sure that they are all working properly, you know, test 579 00:39:19.000 --> 00:39:23.679 them beforehand, because that's another thing that happens. Malfunctions are 580 00:39:23.920 --> 00:39:30.599 really common. I've had game cams which are super reliable 581 00:39:30.880 --> 00:39:35.760 and super durable, but do wonky things like Okay, all 582 00:39:35.760 --> 00:39:39.079 the batteries are charged and it works fine in room A, 583 00:39:39.960 --> 00:39:43.000 but I take it to room B and the batteries 584 00:39:43.079 --> 00:39:47.440 drained or it's not turning on or you know. And 585 00:39:47.480 --> 00:39:53.239 so having backups of equipment is also really helpful. And 586 00:39:53.280 --> 00:39:55.679 when you're going with more than just a few people, 587 00:39:56.199 --> 00:40:01.599 most everybody has electronics and and so that's helpful. You know, 588 00:40:01.639 --> 00:40:04.000 we can all kind of kind of back each other up. 589 00:40:05.920 --> 00:40:09.039 So yeah, that's important. And another kind of common sense 590 00:40:09.079 --> 00:40:15.960 investigation thing is a couple of things, just common sense 591 00:40:16.000 --> 00:40:24.559 investigation things I'm thinking of is one, don't wear strong cologne, perfume, deodorant, 592 00:40:25.320 --> 00:40:31.519 anything like that, because phantom smells are really common and 593 00:40:31.760 --> 00:40:36.760 they're usually kind of perfume me or cigars. I don't 594 00:40:36.760 --> 00:40:38.760 know why. I guess a lot of dudes smoke to 595 00:40:38.800 --> 00:40:42.599 cigars back in the day, I don't know. And you 596 00:40:42.719 --> 00:40:48.400 don't want a false reading. Yes, because somebody's wearing too 597 00:40:48.480 --> 00:40:52.519 much Chanel number five, perhaps body spray or some crazy things. 598 00:40:53.719 --> 00:40:59.840 I think the biggest example is when we're in Clayborn Is. 599 00:41:00.400 --> 00:41:03.519 I mean, in what was it the fourth floor room, 600 00:41:03.679 --> 00:41:07.239 we were getting crazy hits with the cat bulls, and 601 00:41:07.880 --> 00:41:10.239 that's when we were all just like, oh, we're gonna 602 00:41:10.280 --> 00:41:12.320 run up to our room go get this, you know, 603 00:41:12.519 --> 00:41:16.719 swat batteries. And for whatever reason it was two or 604 00:41:16.719 --> 00:41:20.480 three of us has stayed and we were getting hits 605 00:41:20.480 --> 00:41:24.320 off the cat bulls, and then all of a sudden, 606 00:41:24.960 --> 00:41:28.519 we were all there and it was like radio silent. 607 00:41:30.480 --> 00:41:34.400 And then that's when I made the connection because Georgina 608 00:41:34.400 --> 00:41:38.239 had told us the history and I was like, sorry 609 00:41:38.679 --> 00:41:42.519 KKK people, but don't don't come after me. But I 610 00:41:42.519 --> 00:41:45.639 had mentioned I was like, how much you want to 611 00:41:45.679 --> 00:41:49.239 bet it's because of the KKK and I'm the only minority, 612 00:41:50.559 --> 00:41:56.119 Yeah that's sitting here. Yeah, And we get a response 613 00:41:56.239 --> 00:42:03.480 immediately saying yeah remember that said yeah. And it was 614 00:42:03.559 --> 00:42:08.400 just like, I don't know why it clicked in my head. 615 00:42:09.760 --> 00:42:12.280 Why it all we were getting this activity and it's 616 00:42:12.280 --> 00:42:16.039 because you all were in and out of the room, 617 00:42:16.079 --> 00:42:18.159 and I think it was me and Georgina are the 618 00:42:18.199 --> 00:42:21.400 only people that stayed, but everyone else was like, you know, 619 00:42:21.519 --> 00:42:25.719 in and out, and we were getting activity and then 620 00:42:25.840 --> 00:42:27.440 all of a sudden, when we finally just. 621 00:42:27.400 --> 00:42:28.239 Settle, it's like. 622 00:42:29.920 --> 00:42:32.800 It starts to click and stuff like that, it starts 623 00:42:32.800 --> 00:42:37.239 to happen. It's very important to know that kind of stuff. 624 00:42:37.320 --> 00:42:43.679 And it is the triangulation. The cat bull is the 625 00:42:43.079 --> 00:42:47.440 whatever else equipment we're using at the time. Yeah. 626 00:42:47.480 --> 00:42:51.760 Well, and that's important too, because if you weren't there, 627 00:42:52.440 --> 00:42:54.119 none of the rest of us would have picked up 628 00:42:54.119 --> 00:42:57.519 on that, and we would not have gotten those same 629 00:42:57.599 --> 00:43:07.280 readings that we've got, these racist, bigoted goats,

ghosts and goats. Yeah, 630 00:43:07.400 --> 00:43:10.800 and there again, it's like people, it's just another example 631 00:43:10.840 --> 00:43:17.199 of people bringing different perspectives and different things to the 632 00:43:17.239 --> 00:43:24.519 table and how that could influence the activity. And that's 633 00:43:24.559 --> 00:43:28.360 the Yeah, that's such a great example. And I remember that, Yeah, 634 00:43:28.400 --> 00:43:30.679 we had, Yeah, there was like k KK people that 635 00:43:30.760 --> 00:43:34.000 stayed at that hotel and they might not have been 636 00:43:34.599 --> 00:43:39.639 too friendly towards towards minority people and so yeah, and 637 00:43:39.679 --> 00:43:41.519 that's what we were kind of starting to pick up on. 638 00:43:42.119 --> 00:43:47.800 And it's I mean, but again, it's hitting on everything 639 00:43:47.840 --> 00:43:52.119 that we had talked about being respectful place in time, 640 00:43:52.960 --> 00:43:55.239 the right people. I mean, it's not like we were 641 00:43:56.159 --> 00:43:59.599 being disrespectful. It's just the fact that it's like I 642 00:43:59.719 --> 00:44:03.000 had to pick up on it and then set it 643 00:44:03.039 --> 00:44:06.000 out loud and we got a response from them. Yeah, 644 00:44:06.079 --> 00:44:08.719 It's like I wasn't over there like poking the bear. 645 00:44:08.840 --> 00:44:12.320 I wasn't being disrespectful. We had the equipment, We had 646 00:44:12.360 --> 00:44:17.960 equipment going off and right place, right time, with the 647 00:44:18.039 --> 00:44:21.920 right people, and there we go. Yeah, and it's like 648 00:44:22.280 --> 00:44:25.960 obviously they I mean, they were being bigoted, but they 649 00:44:25.960 --> 00:44:28.360 weren't being overly disrespectful, like. 650 00:44:28.320 --> 00:44:30.280 They were just like whatever, we're just not going to 651 00:44:30.400 --> 00:44:33.760 talk to this person. We're refusing to talk to this person. 652 00:44:33.920 --> 00:44:38.079 So it's like when I finally said it, it's like, okay, yeah, 653 00:44:38.199 --> 00:44:41.400 that deserves a response. You picked up on why we're 654 00:44:41.400 --> 00:44:42.000 ignoring you. 655 00:44:42.679 --> 00:44:44.719 Yeah, and it makes it makes so much sense. And 656 00:44:44.719 --> 00:44:52.480 there again, Yeah, it's like just this this other invaluable perspective. Definitely. 657 00:44:53.000 --> 00:44:58.039 Yeah. And it's a hotel again. Literally everything we talked 658 00:44:58.039 --> 00:45:00.119 about with a hotel we paid to be a it. 659 00:45:00.760 --> 00:45:04.320 Yeah, and everything happened to go in the place. Yeah, 660 00:45:04.360 --> 00:45:09.639 it was great. I mean the liberty is great. Yeah, 661 00:45:08.719 --> 00:45:12.719 I know it's still that was a really good investigation. 662 00:45:13.760 --> 00:45:16.920 But the cat balls, I get those cat balls out 663 00:45:16.920 --> 00:45:20.119 of my closet. They're dying to get out there in 664

00:45:20.159 --> 00:45:24.800 the field. But on another commons, I'm thinking of more 665 00:45:24.800 --> 00:45:29.840 common sense things on actual investigations. Please, for the love 666 00:45:29.840 --> 00:45:40.239 of God, do not whisper. Allison's just like, yeah, and 667 00:45:40.360 --> 00:45:42.440 here again, this is this is more advice for the 668 00:45:42.480 --> 00:45:47.960 newbies because a lot of that, I know, it's it 669 00:45:48.039 --> 00:45:51.719 comes from a good place. It's like, oh, I don't 670 00:45:51.800 --> 00:45:57.000 want to disturb whatever's going on here, but I have 671 00:45:57.039 --> 00:46:01.360 to say something to my friend, No, please don't do that, 672 00:46:02.039 --> 00:46:04.960 say it out loud, because it is going to give 673 00:46:05.079 --> 00:46:09.400 false EVP readings. A lot of I just sorted like 674 00:46:09.400 --> 00:46:16.320 a pig. Don't do that either. But because a lot 675 00:46:16.400 --> 00:46:22.159 of EVPs are quiet, they're they're subtle, they're there, I mean, 676 00:46:22.159 --> 00:46:26.119 they're they're obviously there. When you know, you know, when 677 00:46:26.159 --> 00:46:28.480 you know, when you know when you've got an EVP, 678 00:46:29.119 --> 00:46:32.679 especially a nice clear one, and there are a lot 679 00:46:32.719 --> 00:46:35.400 of times very quiet. Well, if you've got people that 680 00:46:35.480 --> 00:46:43.440 are constantly or even intermittently whispering, it's really difficult to 681 00:46:43.519 --> 00:46:47.519 listen to those playbacks, those audio playbacks and go, oh, 682 00:46:47.519 --> 00:46:50.239 my gosh, is that somebody whispering or is that an 683 00:46:50.320 --> 00:46:54.360 actual EVP? And that it just makes it really really 684 00:46:54.400 --> 00:46:58.159 hard another thing to do. And I am guilty of 685 00:46:58.199 --> 00:47:02.119 this one. I get excited and I forget to what 686 00:47:02.199 --> 00:47:06.360 I call tag. And so if you know that somebody 687 00:47:06.440 --> 00:47:09.599 is doing an EVP session with their phone or recorder 688 00:47:09.679 --> 00:47:13.920 or whatever, if you're there, you're moving around, let people know, Oh, 689 00:47:14.000 --> 00:47:16.960 I just got up from my chair, or I just 690 00:47:17.199 --> 00:47:20.840 that was me walking across the room, or I just 691 00:47:20.880 --> 00:47:24.800 set my phone down on the table. Those little things 692 00:47:24.920 --> 00:47:30.400 are so helpful when you're playing back audio because it's 693 00:47:30.440 --> 00:47:32.719 kind of like, oh okay, because you know, yeah, you 694 00:47:32.760 --> 00:47:39.519 can get phantom footsteps or phantom noises or and if 695 00:47:39.519 --> 00:47:43.880 you've got people moving around and whispering, and it makes 696 00:47:44.000 --> 00:47:47.880 it really really hard. Sometimes it makes it impossible, which 697 00:47:47.920 --> 00:47:50.800 is a real bummer because gosh, you know, we got 698 00:47:50.840 --> 00:47:54.880 all this audio footage and it's not really usable because 699 00:47:54.920 --> 00:47:58.519 we can't tell the difference between an EVP and these 700 00:47:58.519 --> 00:47:59.840 two people whispering. 701 00:48:00.239 --> 00:48:05.280 Yes, And I mean, I think EVPs are some of 702 00:48:05.320 --> 00:48:06.559 the most helpful things. 703 00:48:06.920 --> 00:48:08.639 They are and. 704 00:48:10.239 --> 00:48:13.159 I mean I learned from experience when we first started 705 00:48:13.239 --> 00:48:16.559 doing this, and I did go to Emily Morgan, but 706 00:48:17.000 --> 00:48:21.800 for whatever reason, my recorder was citing to be difficult, 707 00:48:22.440 --> 00:48:27.159 and it's like, I it took forever for me to 708 00:48:27.199 --> 00:48:30.800 figure out what certain things were. Like. At some point 709 00:48:30.880 --> 00:48:34.360 I was hearing gunshots and it was wow. I mean 710 00:48:34.960 --> 00:48:37.719 downtown San Antonio, and it's like, you know, if you're 711 00:48:37.760 --> 00:48:42.760 hearing gunshots, it's like you're gonna hear sirens. Yeah, check 712 00:48:42.800 --> 00:48:44.480 the recorder, no sirens. 713 00:48:44.159 --> 00:48:44.599 No nothing. 714 00:48:44.639 --> 00:48:47.599 But y'all couldn't hear any of that because of the 715 00:48:47.719 --> 00:48:53.800 recording the recorder itself. But me being there for hours 716 00:48:53.840 --> 00:48:57.639 just listening to it, I knew what it was. So 717 00:48:58.280 --> 00:49:00.880 little stuff like that makes all the difference. 718 00:49:01.360 --> 00:49:05.559 It does all the difference it does. And I mean especially, Gosh, 719 00:49:05.679 --> 00:49:08.679 you're just coming up with like super duper examples. I mean, yeah, 720 00:49:08.719 --> 00:49:11.679 it's like you think about that at the Emily Morgan. Okay, 721 00:49:11.719 --> 00:49:14.639 for those listeners who have not been to San Antonio. 722 00:49:15.000 --> 00:49:17.800 Down in the heart of San Antonio, it's like the 723 00:49:17.880 --> 00:49:22.079 touristy area where the Alamo is. We've got these historic 724 00:49:22.920 --> 00:49:27.559 hotels that are basically built on the battle ground where 725 00:49:27.559 --> 00:49:30.480 the Battle of the Alamo took place, and the Emily 726 00:49:30.559 --> 00:49:34.199 Morgan is one of these, and they've got it's very haunted. 727 00:49:34.239 --> 00:49:38.000 We've got the Manger, it's very haunted, and the Davy Crocket, 728 00:49:38.079 --> 00:49:42.360 the Crockett Hotel very very haunted as well. So when 729 00:49:42.440 --> 00:49:45.960 Allison is sitting here saying and she's from San Antonio 730 00:49:46.639 --> 00:49:51.360 and has been downtown several several times and to the 731 00:49:51.400 --> 00:49:55.960 Emily Morgan several several times, it's it's kind of like, Okay, 732 00:49:56.039 --> 00:49:58.280 I know the lay of the land here, which is 733 00:49:58.320 --> 00:50:01.000 another good tip. You know, kind of familiar with

where 734 00:50:01.039 --> 00:50:07.800 you're going. And I also know the history. So if 735 00:50:07.840 --> 00:50:11.079 I'm not hearing gunshots and sirens with my ears here 736 00:50:11.119 --> 00:50:14.840 at the Emily Morgan Hotel, but I'm hearing gunshots phantom 737 00:50:14.920 --> 00:50:20.840 gunshots plausibly, that could be residual activity from the Battle 738 00:50:20.840 --> 00:50:26.880 of the Alamo, which would be a super cool find. Yes, 739 00:50:27.760 --> 00:50:28.320 I want. 740 00:50:28.159 --> 00:50:30.119 To go back and try to see if I can 741 00:50:30.159 --> 00:50:35.400 get it again. But I mentioned earlier the unrealistic expectations 742 00:50:36.119 --> 00:50:39.719 go into like Emily Morgan and stuff. I always have 743 00:50:39.800 --> 00:50:43.440 an unrealistic expectation. I'm not gonna lie to you, so 744 00:50:43.960 --> 00:50:46.840 I always anytime I'm at the Emily Morgan, I try 745 00:50:46.840 --> 00:50:50.559 to book Alamo side so I can see the Almo. 746 00:50:50.960 --> 00:50:54.559 And this is gonna be where I do that, because 747 00:50:54.599 --> 00:50:58.119 it's like, I want to see the seventy blows outside 748 00:50:58.199 --> 00:51:02.119 the window. It's like, what is a likelihood of me seeing. 749 00:51:01.880 --> 00:51:05.119 That looking out the window? 750 00:51:06.559 --> 00:51:10.679 Oh my god, it's so bad, but it's I know, 751 00:51:10.760 --> 00:51:15.239 it's such a big unrealistic expectation, like you never know. 752 00:51:16.599 --> 00:51:19.760 But then it works out in my favorite because then 753 00:51:19.800 --> 00:51:22.440 I have a tendency of ignoring some of the other stuff, 754 00:51:23.280 --> 00:51:26.960 Like I'll have a recorder going and I'll forget that 755 00:51:27.079 --> 00:51:27.960 it's going. 756 00:51:29.239 --> 00:51:30.559 Because I'm too busy. 757 00:51:30.320 --> 00:51:35.119 Looking on and I'm like and I forget, which is 758 00:51:35.159 --> 00:51:38.719 good because like the e VPS, you're talking your normal voice. 759 00:51:38.719 --> 00:51:43.320 So I'm over there talking to my normal poice, yourself. 760 00:51:43.599 --> 00:51:44.559 I'm waiting for you. 761 00:51:44.639 --> 00:51:45.719 I want you to come. 762 00:51:46.360 --> 00:51:48.280 It's like I'm a text and you are a text 763 00:51:48.360 --> 00:51:49.800 and show you to show yourself. 764 00:51:52.000 --> 00:51:53.119 I'm all excited. 765 00:51:54.039 --> 00:51:57.239 But stuff like that, it's like when you distract yourself 766 00:51:57.280 --> 00:52:00.519 with something like that because you know the history. Yeah, 767 00:52:00.519 --> 00:52:03.119 and then you get an EPPS. 768 00:52:03.559 --> 00:52:05.519 That's the you know that You're. 769 00:52:05.440 --> 00:52:08.559 Like, oh, I was too busy talking. 770 00:52:08.280 --> 00:52:08.559 To the. 771 00:52:10.239 --> 00:52:14.679 Who is that? And they were like, oh, okay, she's distracted, 772 00:52:15.000 --> 00:52:18.480 can't mess with her.

Yeah. Yeah, And stuff like that 773 00:52:18.599 --> 00:52:21.079 happens too, and that's why it's so important to have 774 00:52:21.159 --> 00:52:24.719 like equipment and going. You know, there's some people that 775 00:52:24.760 --> 00:52:27.400 are like real tech heavy and there are some. That's 776 00:52:27.400 --> 00:52:29.679 another reason why our group works together so well, because 777 00:52:29.719 --> 00:52:31.519 we have some that are tech heavy and some that 778 00:52:31.559 --> 00:52:33.480 are you know, I'm just going to bring my phone 779 00:52:33.480 --> 00:52:35.960 and my dowsing rods, you know, I like to travel light, 780 00:52:37.320 --> 00:52:41.800 and it all balances out. And so for the folks 781 00:52:42.480 --> 00:52:45.599 that are not real tech heavy, but they're very I 782 00:52:45.639 --> 00:52:49.000 want to just rely on my intuition. We have everybody 783 00:52:49.039 --> 00:52:51.599 else that has the tech that can back it up, 784 00:52:52.159 --> 00:52:57.239 and so yeah, it it creates a nice, nice balance, 785 00:52:57.559 --> 00:53:03.800 it does. For it's like, oh my gosh, I'm looking 786 00:53:03.840 --> 00:53:07.000 at I'm re looking at my notes here. Yeah, I'm 787 00:53:07.039 --> 00:53:11.519 a couple of more things here. Don't go alone. Don't 788 00:53:11.719 --> 00:53:20.719 don't be stupid. Oops what okay? Okay, I suggest you 789 00:53:20.719 --> 00:53:25.400 don't go alone. But if you if you do go alone, 790 00:53:25.880 --> 00:53:29.880 which I don't suggest, make sure somebody knows where you're going. 791 00:53:31.400 --> 00:53:37.239 Said another Oops. Another oops face Allison for shame. 792 00:53:38.920 --> 00:53:41.079 See and this is the line, this is What Not 793 00:53:41.199 --> 00:53:46.199 to Do episode where did you go by yourself? I 794 00:53:46.320 --> 00:53:50.519 always go to place asn't by myself. It's like because 795 00:53:50.559 --> 00:53:53.119 it's like my husband doesn't want anything to do with it. 796 00:53:53.360 --> 00:53:58.000 My dad's just an old man. So it's like, well, 797 00:53:58.519 --> 00:53:59.679 just be very careful. 798 00:53:59.719 --> 00:54:02.440 And I'm I guess I should have a coveyat with that. 799 00:54:04.719 --> 00:54:08.400 You you can go. We all go places by ourselves, 800 00:54:08.559 --> 00:54:12.280 you know, but just make sure that there are places 801 00:54:12.320 --> 00:54:14.320 that are safe public. 802 00:54:15.000 --> 00:54:16.880 I'm just trying to make some friends. 803 00:54:19.679 --> 00:54:22.880 Oh my goodness, let us know where you're going. Some 804 00:54:22.920 --> 00:54:25.679 people prefer to go to bars. I prefer to go goot, 805 00:54:27.199 --> 00:54:31.280 what's the difference. But it's actually probably safer the growing 806 00:54:31.320 --> 00:54:34.079 to a bar exactly. We do both. You can go 807 00:54:34.159 --> 00:54:38.639 to haunted bar, but yeah, I don't. I don't suggest. 808 00:54:39.480 --> 00:54:44.840 I don't suggest going alone, especially especially if it's like 809 00:54:45.199 --> 00:54:47.760 an old building where if you could fall or get 810 00:54:47.840 --> 00:54:51.719 hurt and nobody's there to like see the ghost with you. 811 00:54:52.599 --> 00:54:57.039 I mean, yeah, I've only been doing this year. 812 00:54:58.239 --> 00:55:02.360 Girls, it now long. Yeah, I think it's been longer 813 00:55:02.400 --> 00:55:02.760 than that. 814 00:55:03.159 --> 00:55:05.880 It's probably been closer than five. I'm not gonna lie. 815 00:55:06.000 --> 00:55:07.559 I was going to say, you know, it's like you're 816 00:55:07.599 --> 00:55:11.719 not the newbie anymore. Now, you're like a seasoned veteran. Now, 817 00:55:12.360 --> 00:55:16.599 oh oh yeah, yeah. Please don't, please don't go alone. 818 00:55:16.960 --> 00:55:22.039 Please don't. It's not recommended, just for safety reasons. 819 00:55:22.119 --> 00:55:22.320 You know. 820 00:55:22.559 --> 00:55:25.639 Just be smart, maybe that's a better way to put it. 821 00:55:25.679 --> 00:55:30.599 Just just be smart. Yeah, let people know where you're going, 822 00:55:30.760 --> 00:55:37.559 especially if it's remote or secluded or yeah. Yeah, okay, 823 00:55:37.760 --> 00:55:45.159 moving along. You're looking very guilty, as she should. And 824 00:55:45.519 --> 00:55:47.639 I think I think we've hit all of mine, with 825 00:55:47.679 --> 00:55:54.400 the exception of there's a couple, well actually a couple 826 00:55:54.440 --> 00:55:57.440 of them. But I think I'm gonna I think I'm 827 00:55:57.440 --> 00:55:59.079 going to just leave on this one because I think 828 00:55:59.079 --> 00:56:02.400 we're getting closed to be done here. Yeah, you don't 829 00:56:02.519 --> 00:56:05.480 have to do this. You don't have to investigate at 830 00:56:05.519 --> 00:56:08.039 three am, in the middle of the night and when 831 00:56:08.079 --> 00:56:15.280 it's dark. We've been in many different places and investigated 832 00:56:16.039 --> 00:56:18.840 many different times, different times at the day. We have 833 00:56:19.000 --> 00:56:21.719 investigated in the wee hours of the night. We have 834 00:56:21.880 --> 00:56:26.320 investigated when it's dark, but we've investigated during the day, 835 00:56:26.480 --> 00:56:28.599 in the middle of the day, in the evenings, in 836 00:56:28.639 --> 00:56:33.199 the mornings. And it's it's interesting because you think about it. 837 00:56:34.159 --> 00:56:39.239 When people report seeing paranormal activity, it's during their waking hours. 838 00:56:39.519 --> 00:56:42.199 I mean, yes, there are sometimes people that it's like, hey, 839 00:56:42.199 --> 00:56:43.400 I woke up in the middle of the night to 840 00:56:43.400 --> 00:56:46.679 get a drink of water, and you know, there was 841 00:56:46.760 --> 00:56:49.199 Beelzebub standing there at the foot of my bed. You 842 00:56:49.239 --> 00:56:53.239 know that those stories happened. But most of the time, 843

00:56:54.920 --> 00:57:01.559 especially with businesses, because businesses are they're closed overnight, they're like, 844 00:57:01.639 --> 00:57:04.199 oh gosh. You know, there was this one local business 845 00:57:04.199 --> 00:57:07.159 here in Waco that I prefers not to be named, 846 00:57:07.880 --> 00:57:12.239 but they were having poltergeist activity during the workday, you know, 847 00:57:12.320 --> 00:57:15.840 and it's it was an office setting, and yeah, it's like, okay, 848 00:57:15.920 --> 00:57:18.320 the door to the break room keeps opening and shutting 849 00:57:18.400 --> 00:57:21.119 on its own, and we're seeing shadow people walking between 850 00:57:21.159 --> 00:57:24.760 the rooms, and there's something wonky going on with the 851 00:57:24.800 --> 00:57:28.480 coffee maker, and you know, middle of the day, middle 852 00:57:28.519 --> 00:57:33.840 of the day. So don't come under the Oh my gosh, 853 00:57:33.920 --> 00:57:37.599 my leaders. Yeah, do you agree with me? Yeah, I 854 00:57:37.639 --> 00:57:43.599 guess they agree that's so crazy because we too, well, 855 00:57:43.639 --> 00:57:47.079 this one's kind see and I would say if it 856 00:57:47.159 --> 00:57:49.800 was my phone or something it would be this one. 857 00:57:49.960 --> 00:57:52.039 I mean I was gonna say that one to your 858 00:57:52.159 --> 00:57:54.920 left would make sense because that's for the computer and. 859 00:57:54.880 --> 00:57:58.559 Everythinguter and the phone. This one's to my right. It 860 00:57:58.639 --> 00:58:02.519 makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. Okay, are we done now? 861 00:58:03.199 --> 00:58:06.280 Anything else you'd like to add. It is the middle 862 00:58:06.360 --> 00:58:11.639 of the day, we are at the library, very benign place, 863 00:58:11.800 --> 00:58:15.400 and we are we're getting some really kind of weird anomalous. 864 00:58:15.519 --> 00:58:18.159 And I mean last time you brought them, we got nothing. 865 00:58:18.519 --> 00:58:21.360 Yeah, yeah, last time, and we had the same exact 866 00:58:21.480 --> 00:58:26.440 setup and not a and even with the SLS camera 867 00:58:26.599 --> 00:58:31.119 which was even more electronics. Yeah, okay, yeah, I'm going 868 00:58:31.159 --> 00:58:34.079 to be keep bringing my my meters. I love my meters. 869 00:58:34.360 --> 00:58:37.480 But yeah, you don't have to. And like I said, 870 00:58:37.480 --> 00:58:39.920 this is more for newbies than anything. You know, they 871 00:58:40.000 --> 00:58:44.880 watched the shows and all lights out, lights out, you know, 872 00:58:44.920 --> 00:58:47.360 we don't want any electronic interference. And it's like, you 873 00:58:47.360 --> 00:58:50.960 know what near your activity, what you do is you 874 00:58:51.039 --> 00:58:54.800 just sweeps, you just do I'll do an EMF sweep 875 00:58:55.000 --> 00:58:57.239 before we get started. So it's like, Okay, I know 876 00:58:57.280 --> 00:59:02.000 we're the electronic the natural electron of hotspots are you know, 877 00:59:02.039 --> 00:59:04.239 we can rule those out pretty quickly and easily. 878 00:59:04.440 --> 00:59:09.039 Getting a baseline of how your equipment operates where you 879 00:59:09.079 --> 00:59:14.239 are is important. If you're just turning it on and 880 00:59:14.280 --> 00:59:17.360 you're like, oh, let's just go, well, then like what 881 00:59:17.880 --> 00:59:23.400 your trifield meters are doing. If they're constantly doing that, yeah, okay, 882 00:59:23.519 --> 00:59:26.360 so those are probably not as reliable. But then if 883 00:59:26.360 --> 00:59:30.920 they all of a sudden stop, yeah, that's outside of 884 00:59:30.960 --> 00:59:34.599 the normal baseline because they should be going crazy. 885 00:59:34.920 --> 00:59:36.480 Yeah, baseline readings. 886 00:59:37.000 --> 00:59:39.000 So it's like you definitely have to pay attention to 887 00:59:39.000 --> 00:59:39.760 that kind of stuff. 888 00:59:40.239 --> 00:59:47.039 Definitely. The lights just flickered a little bit. Holy crab, 889 00:59:48.880 --> 00:59:52.159 I think we have a guest. The lights just flickered 890 00:59:52.239 --> 00:59:55.360 a little They're like, your diamond is up. We gotta go. 891 00:59:56.679 --> 01:00:00.559 We have seven chairs for the seven diablows. I've decided 892 01:00:00.559 --> 01:00:03.880 to come away. In another conversation about the Emily Morgan, okay, 893 01:00:04.079 --> 01:00:08.719 Allison wants us to visit. In that case, I. 894 01:00:08.639 --> 01:00:10.119 Have three days off this weekend. 895 01:00:10.239 --> 01:00:13.679 I am going to go visit, Go visit family, go 896 01:00:13.800 --> 01:00:16.840 visit family, air quotes, and go see. 897 01:00:18.199 --> 01:00:19.239 Some fellow Texans. 898 01:00:19.239 --> 01:00:20.039 I gotta go go. 899 01:00:22.639 --> 01:00:24.360 Mainly not be going by myself. 900 01:00:24.639 --> 01:00:27.119 Don't go by yourself, take your dad along. 901 01:00:27.239 --> 01:00:27.480 With you. 902 01:00:28.119 --> 01:00:31.639 He's always a good partner in putting debt. 903 01:00:34.360 --> 01:00:37.920 See the lights flickered again, and I said that that is. 904 01:00:40.559 --> 01:00:45.079 Wow, Oh my goodness. I yeah, okay, remember if anybody's 905 01:00:45.119 --> 01:00:48.599 here with us, that's that's chiming in and getting close 906 01:00:48.679 --> 01:00:52.159 to our our microphone. Here, I'm not seeing anything on 907 01:00:52.199 --> 01:00:57.079 the meters, you know, say your peace. We're we're of 908 01:00:57.119 --> 01:01:00.159 course anxious to hear what you have to say. You 909 01:01:00.239 --> 01:01:04.400 pay an extra attention to this episode, I think you should. Yeah, 910 01:01:04.440 --> 01:01:08.440 when you're editing, it's like whoa wait a minute, it's like, 911 01:01:08.519 --> 01:01:14.840 excuse me, that is not correct? Yeah, but okay, well 912 01:01:14.880 --> 01:01:18.360 I think we actually believe it or not. I have 913 01:01:18.559 -->

01:01:26.559 two pages worth of what not to do, and I 914 01:01:26.599 --> 01:01:28.639 think one last one that I'm going to mention just 915 01:01:28.760 --> 01:01:33.119 very quickly is if you decide to have a person 916 01:01:33.159 --> 01:01:35.360 that has psychic abilities. And this could be a whole 917 01:01:35.360 --> 01:01:37.920 different episode, because I know we've already talked about psychics, 918 01:01:37.920 --> 01:01:40.679 But if you decide to have a psychic join you, 919 01:01:40.960 --> 01:01:46.159 which I recommend they're great or a very psychically sensitive person, 920 01:01:46.519 --> 01:01:49.360 please bet them, because there are a lot that are 921 01:01:49.440 --> 01:01:52.280 fraudulent or they think they've got abilities and they don't 922 01:01:52.800 --> 01:01:55.559 and the ones that think they've got abilities and they don't, 923 01:01:55.840 --> 01:01:59.239 they tend to be really big attention seekers and they 924 01:01:59.239 --> 01:02:05.679 can be very very disruptive when it comes to gathering evidence. 925 01:02:06.320 --> 01:02:09.440 So yes, and that's like that could that's a whole 926 01:02:09.599 --> 01:02:10.159 can of worms. 927 01:02:10.320 --> 01:02:14.159 I would also say give them as little information as 928 01:02:14.239 --> 01:02:14.639 you can. 929 01:02:15.039 --> 01:02:16.079 Yes, if you. 930 01:02:16.119 --> 01:02:23.519 Know the history, just yeah, because then you know exactly 931 01:02:24.320 --> 01:02:26.639 what they're coming in. They would have to come in 932 01:02:27.159 --> 01:02:33.880 with their own information. Yeah, And it's it's a lot 933 01:02:33.960 --> 01:02:37.119 easier to point out if they're faking it, because then 934 01:02:37.119 --> 01:02:41.159 they're gonna be like, oh, well, this is the Emily 935 01:02:41.239 --> 01:02:43.840 Morgan Hotel it was, And if they're just starting to 936 01:02:43.920 --> 01:02:49.639 state facts, it's like, yeah, that's a little fishy. It's like, yeah, 937 01:02:49.880 --> 01:02:54.320 it's okay. Like if they just randomly it's like, oh, 938 01:02:54.880 --> 01:02:57.239 this is the fourteenth Florida it used to be the 939 01:02:57.280 --> 01:03:01.599 hospital or the surgical wing. Yeah, okay, how. 940 01:03:02.599 --> 01:03:09.559 You can if they can give you very historically verifiable facts, 941 01:03:10.400 --> 01:03:15.599 and that's really helpful. And usually if people say, hey, 942 01:03:15.639 --> 01:03:19.559 I've got psychic abilities. I remember when Robbie, when I 943 01:03:19.599 --> 01:03:23.360 first met Robbie, who's like crazy psychic ability, He's got 944 01:03:23.360 --> 01:03:29.280 crazy psychic abilities. Oh, he's he is constantly blows me away. 945 01:03:29.320 --> 01:03:32.960 But anyway, he was like, yeah, you know, he's really 946 01:03:33.039 --> 01:03:35.480 humble about it. And I remember he's like, yeah, I've 947 01:03:35.800 --> 01:03:37.840 got some kind of you know, psychic I think I've 948 01:03:37.840 --> 01:03:40.960 got some kind of psychic abilities. And I remember saying 949 01:03:41.000 --> 01:03:43.800 thinking to myself, Okay, yeah, we'll let you come on 950 01:03:43.800 --> 01:03:48.440 one investigation and then you know, just see see see 951 01:03:48.440 --> 01:03:52.159 what you're worth here, you know. And from that point 952 01:03:52.199 --> 01:03:54.360 on when he's coming, I mean, it was like, this 953 01:03:54.440 --> 01:03:59.039 dude's legit fantastic. Yeah, it's it's kind of like coming 954 01:03:59.119 --> 01:04:03.760 up with names and places and times. He comes up 955 01:04:04.079 --> 01:04:13.039 consistently with verifiable facts of things that he has no idea. 956 01:04:13.559 --> 01:04:17.360 I mean, my my favorite example of him is in 957 01:04:17.440 --> 01:04:21.639 Claybroom when I mean, for whatever reason, almost the entire 958 01:04:21.719 --> 01:04:25.000 time there, the little girl that was there was talking 959 01:04:25.039 --> 01:04:28.840 to him. Yeah, he had no idea about the little girl, 960 01:04:29.119 --> 01:04:32.400 but the rest of us did. And he was just like, yeah, 961 01:04:32.440 --> 01:04:34.639 I'm just there's this little girl in my room that 962 01:04:34.760 --> 01:04:39.280 keeps talking to me. And we're all just like what 963 01:04:39.880 --> 01:04:42.400 and he's like, yeah, this little girl. And it's like, okay, 964 01:04:42.760 --> 01:04:45.800 none of us told you about that, And for you 965 01:04:45.920 --> 01:04:47.400 to come up to us and be like, who's a 966 01:04:47.400 --> 01:04:48.559 little girl and this and that. 967 01:04:48.840 --> 01:04:52.159 It's like yeah, okay, yeah, it's like verifiable. It's kind 968 01:04:52.159 --> 01:04:54.119 of like, oh, triangulation verifiably. 969 01:04:54.320 --> 01:04:54.639 Yeah. 970 01:04:54.840 --> 01:04:57.280 Yeah. So yeah, if you can get a good psychic, 971 01:04:57.679 --> 01:05:00.800 oh man, they're worth their weight in gold, hold on them. Yes, 972 01:05:01.639 --> 01:05:03.599 but there's a lot of folks out there that are 973 01:05:03.599 --> 01:05:07.039 pretty flaky and they think they're psychics and they're not. 974 01:05:07.440 --> 01:05:10.320 And they can be like I said, they tend to 975 01:05:10.360 --> 01:05:13.119 be the attention seekers and they can be very disruptive, 976 01:05:13.920 --> 01:05:17.000 I'm getting this or that, and they'll get real theatrical 977 01:05:17.159 --> 01:05:20.320 and they might get them you know, emotional about oh 978 01:05:20.559 --> 01:05:22.760 I'm so sad or I'm still go or that. You know, 979 01:05:22.840 --> 01:05:26.800 I just basically just very look at me, look at me, 980 01:05:26.880 --> 01:05:30.920 look at me. And people that have genuine abilities, at 981 01:05:31.000 --> 01:05:35.079 least in my experience, they are opposite of that. They're 982 01:05:35.280 --> 01:05:41.960 usually very quiet, very you know, calm, and just give 983 01:05:42.000 --> 01:05:48.039

you this freaking amazing information. So yeah, okay, well that 984 01:05:48.199 --> 01:05:49.679 that wraps up my list. 985 01:05:51.679 --> 01:05:54.239 I will just say, just speaking a little bit, which 986 01:05:55.239 --> 01:06:00.519 one of my cousins is very psychic, very sensitive. I 987 01:06:00.559 --> 01:06:06.719 remember were her last visit was her parents and she 988 01:06:06.760 --> 01:06:09.800 and I were in the backseat, and then I was like, oh, 989 01:06:09.760 --> 01:06:12.440 you should get that house. And then my uncle was 990 01:06:12.480 --> 01:06:14.960 looking at it. He goes, yeah, yeah, because they're considering 991 01:06:15.000 --> 01:06:21.199 about getting real estate here and Waco. And then my 992 01:06:21.320 --> 01:06:23.199 uncle was like, yeah, that's a that's a pretty house. 993 01:06:23.239 --> 01:06:27.440 And then my cousin goes, it's haunted. Dad. I go s, 994 01:06:29.000 --> 01:06:29.440 and then my. 995 01:06:29.440 --> 01:06:31.440 Uncle was like nope, nope, nope, let's go. 996 01:06:31.480 --> 01:06:34.320 And I was like, man, and to think you're my 997 01:06:34.559 --> 01:06:40.159 dad's brother. And then they started laughing and then my 998 01:06:40.239 --> 01:06:42.199 cousin's like, what do you mean. I was like, my 999 01:06:42.360 --> 01:06:44.920 dad went on a home investigation with me and then 1000 01:06:45.000 --> 01:06:51.239 the meanwhile he's over here running. They started laughing, but 1001 01:06:51.280 --> 01:06:54.039 it was just so funny that I pointed out the 1002 01:06:54.119 --> 01:07:00.079 house and then my cousin's like, no, it's haunted, and 1003 01:07:00.119 --> 01:07:03.599 that sounds like she knows. I was like, come on, 1004 01:07:03.719 --> 01:07:05.519 she was wait, how did you know? I was like, 1005 01:07:05.760 --> 01:07:07.280 oh no, I just said get that. 1006 01:07:07.400 --> 01:07:11.920 Alison. Well, you know you've got sensitivities too, so your 1007 01:07:12.480 --> 01:07:15.239 freaking family it's the sensitive family. 1008 01:07:16.519 --> 01:07:21.559 I mean sensitive in one way. 1009 01:07:22.559 --> 01:07:26.639 Oh gosh. Well, on that note, yes, we should probably 1010 01:07:26.679 --> 01:07:29.199 wrap up unless you got anything you want to end 1011 01:07:29.280 --> 01:07:35.360 up with hope than your psychic family. Okay, we are 1012 01:07:35.480 --> 01:07:43.320 very curious about our possible guest, so I guess that 1013 01:07:43.360 --> 01:07:45.920 will all come out during editing. And that's all we've 1014 01:07:45.920 --> 01:07:49.199 got for today. Yay, bye bye. 1015 01:07:53.199 --> 01:07:57.360 This has been Spooky a paranormal podcast. We hope today's 1016 01:07:57.400 --> 01:08:00.960 episode since Shiver's, down your spine and spark your curiosity 1017 01:08:01.000 --> 01:08:04.599 about all things ghostly. If you've enjoyed what you've heard, 1018 01:08:04.880 --> 01:08:07.599 don't forget to subscribe and leave a review on your 1019 01:08:07.639 --> 01:08:11.760 favorite podcast platform. You can also catch us on Facebook 1020 01:08:11.800 --> 01:08:16.720 and Instagram. Until next time, Stay curious, stay vigilant, and 1021 01:08:16.880 --> 01:08:24.039 Never be afraid to explore the shadows.