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Welcome back to the Spiritual Spotlight series.
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I'm Rachel Garrett, and today we're going to explore what it means to trust the wisdom within us, especially when old patterns are louder than our intuition.
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Joining me today is Elisara Nova, an energy designer and intuitive guide who helped develop Kiko Design Method.
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Her work brings together energy practices, channeled guidance, and mindfulness.
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We'll talk about her spiritual journey, how she experiences connection with her guides, and what conscious creation looks like in everyday life.
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I am so excited to join you today and welcome to Spiritual Spotlight series.
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Thank you so much, Rachel.
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I am excited for this conversation and when it takes us.
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I love it.
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So we're just gonna jump right in.
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What was your relationship with spirituality before doing the work that you do today?
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There was no relationship.
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It was zero.
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It came to me after what we call the the dark night of the soul that lasted for quite some time.
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It wasn't one one night, it was over a year when my old identity crumbled down.
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And I knew that there was something that it was something that I it was not a I was not able to recreate it.
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I knew that it was gone, and I didn't know what to do.
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Because the old life, even though it looked fabulous on paper, I felt a huge emptiness.
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All what I achieved and what I experienced, it was beautiful and everything, but then there was there was not the the substance, there was not meaning the the meaning was was not there, and that led me really into deeper exploration of myself.
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Who am I, why I am here, and all that those questions and that curiosity started opening up a new new sphere, new door that we call spirituality.
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And I went through multiple phases of spirituality and how I relate to spirituality and what actually spirituality means to me.
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But that that was the process, and I think that it's a process that it's ever evolving, that it's that that that as we get to know ourselves deeper and deeper, and and as we tap into our wisdom more and more, that relationship transforms.
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And I think that that is actually the point.
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Yeah, I like that.
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So during your own awakening, what helped you to stay connected to everyday life when your understanding of reality was changing?
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I established a practice that was I could not meditate at the beginning just sitting down and meditating.
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My my head was running a thousand miles an hour.
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And so I learned that for me, the best way how to actually connect with myself and how to move energy, even though at the beginning I had no understanding what I was doing, that I was actually moving energy and sorting through energy and letting go certain energetic patterns.
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I would go every day at least for an hour for a walk.
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Because we we very often see meditation just sitting down, close your eyes, and think of nothing.
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But there are multiple forms of meditations.
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And for me at the beginning, that was the easiest way how I can start building the connection with myself.
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Because what I learned is that what was missing, why none of the experiences really made any sense, that that the meaning was not there, because I was so disconnected from who I actually am.
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And so the actually going for a walk every day, religiously, whether there was rain, whether there was sunshine, no matter what, no matter how my schedule was busy, how busy my schedule was, I really made the point to go for a walk at least for an hour and start building that connection, start getting to know myself, who I was, what I wanted.
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When you went for the walk, did you like listen to music or were you like listening just to nature?
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No, it was that that was the point.
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Yeah, right.
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That we very often go for a walk, but we start bringing outside perspective, whether it's a music, whether it's a podcast, right?
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It whether it's whatever it is, right?
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We feel the the silence, and the silence is very important because in the silence we can start witnessing what are our thoughts, what is actually going on through our head.
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And for many people, it's it's fascinating because now in my work, for many people, when I when I start working with them, and when they are at the very beginning, and we are really moving through some intense and and perhaps painful stuff, some feelings that that are that that there is certain fear to experience them.
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And when I ask them to really go for the walk or or just sit with themselves without any distraction, that is the most challenging things to do.
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And so the point is do not listen to anything and start paying attention.
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What is the inner narrative that is unfolding in your head?
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Because that is the energy, that is the frequency that you are operating from.
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Absolutely.
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So you describe an energetic blueprint.
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What does that mean in your practice and how might it show up in somebody's relationship or choices?
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So each of us have an energetic blueprint.
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Each of us, the blueprint is unique based on our past experiences, our belief systems, and it's just energetic codes that we carry.
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And the codes are some beliefs, some feelings, some emotions, and how it shows up in in our everyday life, it depends, right?
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It depends what program is running within that blueprint.
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And I believe that part of the work that we came here to do is to release some of the outdated codes and start experiencing life uh from a different perspective.
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Yeah, so true.
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So true.
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So when a person keeps returning to a pattern that they want to change, what do you explore beneath that reputation, the repetition, not reputation, repetition?
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So we really look into how the pattern has been created.
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Because pattern is usually created by multiple energetic codes, I would say, if we use that terminology.
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And some of the codes have been established during this lifetime.
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Some of them might be coming from different time and space.
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And so when we look at the pattern, we really start uncovering those different codes and getting to the information, to the intelligence of how the pattern was created.
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Because many times what we what we find is that those patterns were created for a reason, and in in different circumstances, they might have protected us.
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Right.
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And but it's not working any longer in this lifetime, in this this reality.
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So that that's what we do.
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We start looking at all those codes that are creating the pattern and start releasing them one by one by really reading the energy, really learning how what is the wisdom that is encoded within the pattern.
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And once we extract the wisdom, then the pattern is free to let go.
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So, what helps someone to explore their shadow with compassion when they feel ashamed of what they discover?
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See, the we are getting into an area that is really important, and that is judgment.
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We all hold so much judgment against ourselves.
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And very often when we judge someone else, it's just a judgment that it's that we hold against ourselves and just project it on someone else.
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And why it's important to actually go and uncover those different codes that are forming the pattern and learn why they were created is because you start understanding that it was useful at one, you know, at a different time.
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And that starts removing the judgment out of the equation and start bringing more compassion to the table.
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Judgment is energy that is so deeply engraved in each of us, and it really takes one step at a time.
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And even though when we fall into the judgment and we catch ourselves, it's important not to judge ourselves that we fall that we fell into that pattern.
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So it's really a very delicate work with ourselves.
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And um shame is is another energy that that prevents us to look look at someone, and we do everything and anything in our power to uh to not expose it.
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But but it's so important because that's how how we get control through shame, through judgment.
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That's fascinating.
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So I'm gonna talk about the key code design method.
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So, how did key code design method take shape and what did develop in it teaching you about your own discernment?
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So, this method was developed through my own experience, how I started working with myself and what I learned that it's important in energy work, that it's not only about identifying the energy, releasing the energy, and then bringing new energy in, but it's also about then implementing the aligned action in our everyday life, that it's not just the energy session.
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The energy session is is important, but what is equally important is that then we start tweaking our habits.
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Then if we catch ourselves to think this the old thought, that we just have the command over that energy and say, no, thank you.
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You are you are you are you are the the the old one, and I no longer choose to to have you in my in my field.
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Yeah, or we and and sometimes it it's those habits that that we do.
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And so that that's why I developed the the method and the process, how I work with with people, with my clients, how I guide them through the process, because the way I read energy is it was unique to me, and I didn't feel that there was a process or methodology that I could just take and and run with.
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So, and it came to me very naturally.
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The name came to me, the process came to me, and it was like the guys were saying, You already know it because you've already taken yourself
through that.
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Well, it's becoming the master of you know, the fact that you were able to listen to the guides and the wisdom that was coming through that probably in your stillness walks for an hour a day, it really helped you to pull it forward.
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So your method includes, and I know you kind of touched on this release, recode, and restore.
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How do you understand the spiritual purpose of each stage?
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So it's just the process how we take a dense energy that that carries pain, shame, or judgment.
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We take the energy, we'll witness the energy, we choose to release it, we release that energy, but at the same time, we transmute that energy.
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So it does not stay in that density, it goes into uh pure potentiality, energy that carries pure potential, and it's still energy of the person that I work with.
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So it's and then we bring that energy back in, back into the body, so there is no vacuum because energy works the same way as we see other in the material world when you remove something from your home that there is going to be a vacuum.
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Right.
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So instead of really trying to come up with okay, what I'm gonna put in stat, like instead of the judgment, we don't have to rush into those decisions.
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We can we just bring this energy of the highest gold that their their body, their energy system can hold, and it's the energy of pure potentiality, it's the it's the creative force that then they can use to start creating the new.
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Because part of the process is really start releasing the old patterns, start releasing the old limitation, and start building, creating the new.
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What do we actually want?
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I love that.
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So, what changes in a person's everyday behavior would tell you that an energetic experience is becoming meaningful integration when they start experiencing when when when they know that the old thought patterns, because thoughts are really the first instance where it shows.
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Many of my clients experienced it, that they started seeing things, material things, in their reality where they did not notice them before.
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And it's not about those things, yeah.
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It's about you are giving yourself an indication, a nudge.
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You're you are open in your clarity, pay attention.
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So you just you are a channeler, you describe channeling Sophia.
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How did that connection begin?
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And how do you experience it now?
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It has also evolved, but Sophia came to my life very early on when I started awakening, and she introduced herself as my personal guide to, and she's been with me ever since.
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The connection I we first needed to kind of develop the channel where I was able to even hear it or hear her, and that started really grow and evolve.
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And at one point, she she made a request if I would channel her.
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And I said, Yes, but I need to learn that how to how to channel, how to how to make sure that this channel is clear, and what are also the what is the some sort of protocol around it.
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Yeah.
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Um, and so I I've been working through all that time with my mentor and teacher, and so he helped me to really get to know the protocol, establish the the connection, how to establish the connection.
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But then, as with many of things on my journey, it developed in its own unique way.
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And so right now, the the channeling is not that I am necessarily bringing some sort of information about what will happen or or any of that, it's more about carrying and and transmuting and channeling the frequency.
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And it started developing in those beautiful channeled meditation where people are still being held within their bodies and working with themselves while being held in this beautiful loving frequency of peace, of abundance, of joy.
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And it's just incredible experience to be the channel, to witness what's possible, how people are experiencing it.
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So I am truly loving it.
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And but how it's gonna develop or evolve uh in the future, I don't know.
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So you also um speak of the divine feminine collective and the Amani Council.
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What do those connections mean to you as well?
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So the Divine Uh Divine Feminine Collective are those different goddesses and they come into those meditations.
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So it's I I call it that that Sophia is is the MC of those meditations, but but she's bringing the frequencies of where we are working with the with abundance, then Lakshmi is is fully in and engaged and is co-leading that.
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The Divine Mother is also very present in in many of those meditations, yeah.
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And many more.
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And it's it's kind of like they they come and introduce themselves based on what is the topic, what is the theme that they will be working with, and what is needed the most.
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But what I found the most fascinating thing is that everything I started noticing that there is uh a threat, a guy, like a no matter what the theme is, yeah, they always are putting emphasis on the
fact that we are in charge, that we are the creators, and that we have the infinite power to create experience that we truly wish for ourselves, that there are no boundaries to that.
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Yeah, and I absolutely love that because it it it's so empowering, it brings so much empowerment to us, and they are here truly to to assist us.
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And when it comes to the Amani Council, it's Pleiadian Collective, ninth and thirteen-dimensional Pleiadian collective that came to me and really taught me how to work with energy.
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Because it in a very unique way, because when I work with energy, my arms, my hands are moving.
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And I learned that it's something that I knew for a very long time, and it's my unique way how I I work with energy, how I release energy, how I redesign energy, and and and they are with me through through that process, they really guide.
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me through through multiple iterations of that as as as that skill was was expanding.
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But as you can imagine when that came first online I I always knew that I could stop it.
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Right.
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It was not that it overtook me my body but it was especially at the beginning as as I was multiple things were awakening and now this started and I'm like and now this like what I'm gonna do with this but as I mentioned I had a great teacher great mentor who just helped me to to navigate through what what was being awakened what was coming online so that I still can bring my body and my mind through that entire process because that is the most important thing that our mind our nervous system our body are all on board and understand what is going on even though it's not conventional it might seem crazy to the outside world but that was important and and I'm still working with them especially through 101 sessions.
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I like that you brought up like that you've had like a mentor and a teacher so what does spiritual sovereignty mean when we're also seeking support from our teachers healers or guides that's a that's a very interesting and good question because we very often our old programming has the the notion that there is a teacher there is a guru that knows better than us and we should follow it I was very fortunate to work with a person that did not try to create that container this way.
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He always was making sure that his stuff is not put upon me.
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And at the beginning yes it's important to have someone who you can trust and who you can actually follow a few steps until you start developing your own clarity your own discernment until you start hearing your own wisdom and then what is important in any guide or teacher is that they help you nurture that they don't put their information above yours that they they trust that this is the wisdom this is the information that you need at this point of time even though it might vary from what would they do.
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Yeah that's so important and and and that's that that's I think that that energetic sovereignty or spiritual sovereignty is not a one-time event it's an evolution it's a journey that we we are stepping into more and more it's like with our clarity or our discernment we are opening up the the channel of what is possible we can start seeing the the different possibilities and the same is with our sovereignty because at the beginning we have many different programmings that tell us that someone else outside of us knows better someone else outside of us is more skilled more developed more advanced whatever that is and it it's a very fine dance to then to navigate as you start opening up and listening to to your own guidance and your own wisdom that's such a that's an amazing answer.
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It's so important that yeah that was a great answer thank you because I feel like we get we get we get inundated by noise you know and when you're on a spiritual path it's hard to separate the noise from your own personal like experience so that's that's a beautiful answer.
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And it and it's so important to to nurture that and to because what is also important sovereignty comes hand in hand with self-trust and we need to start developing that that self-trust because I believe that everyone is has psychic skills.
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Absolutely and it's just to let it be born through and it also will have different shapes it it won't have the same it won't follow the same formula it won't follow the same process right and there will be guidance that will be provided to to each person that chooses to actually tap into their psychic abilities but it might be as simple as that you will be able to read the energy of a room.
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Yeah not by seeing anything but you will know we we already are doing that because our body is the you know tells us like something is off right but do we trust it that that's where it comes you know that's where it starts being interesting because everybody wants to listen to their intuition but their intuition very often says the opposite that that they that we want to hear so it takes us to something that it's kind of a little bit uncomfortable challenging because it wants us to break through certain certain limitations.
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And so do we trust it or do we go with the old programming that's where we start changing when we start and building the self-trust when we start listening and actually taking a line action with what the guidance is telling us.
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I'm gonna take your answer and we're gonna this question will answer it a little bit more.
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So what role does the body play in your approach to spiritual knowing
especially when a person may feel disconnected from themselves that's again a process where we have to or we need to start developing the communication between our body and ourselves when we when we get to listen when we get to hear actually before we listen we get to hear because our body stores all the energies all the codes are stored within our body and very often our body shows us what energy is outdated what is what needs to go what the body is ready to release and it's it's usually through some discomfort some some pain and when I work with people that's again it's it's important it goes back to creating a space where you can listen to yourself when you can attune yourself to what is actually happening in your mind in your body in in your environment and very often we can use just the power of our breath to move that energy if we feel that there is a some sort of pain or discomfort in I don't know if our lower abdomen let's say just imagine that it's it's a ball of of energy that it's there and it's ready to to be released and just use your breath and breathe to that place and with every exhale imagine how the energy starts moving through your body and out and it's a practice everybody can do you don't have to be able to read the energy or know what the energy is and pay attention the energy will actually tell you yeah what it is it will it it will actually tell you it but you just need to be able to create the space for yourself to to start honoring your body yourself and where you wish to go how do you think that someone can make room for grief anger or uncertainty when they're continuing a spiritual practice I think that it goes back to to my to my first answer create a practice whatever it is whether it's it's the walk whether you you sit with yourself maybe it's for someone it might be riding a bike it it really can have multiple multiple forms and the other aspect I would say is your body tells you what it needs to release that that energy and sometimes it might be dense sometimes it might be really having a good crying session or going to the woods and and and screaming out loud yeah because sometimes that energy what that energy really is asking for is to be witnessed and to be moved through the body not to be present down.
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Gotcha I love and I I also feel like part of our spiritual journey is to work with those feelings of you know grief, anger uncertainty and like how do you like you said go back to your spiritual practices and how do you work through that I think there's a sacred place for grief and anger in our journey you know oh yeah though those are very valid energies and it's just that it's not too yes they they need to they they need to be part of that yeah and just listening to how they want to be truly expressed through the body right right because some sometimes it it really is about you know moving the energy in an energy session and and it it's gone but sometimes it's so deep and it just
needs to be released and expressed through the body and there is you know another great practice in my opinion is the breath work.
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Yeah it it's it's so powerful because it really gets you to a to a state where the body is giving the permission to just dump as much as as as you wish or it wishes and and and clear out yeah so what do you feel would help someone trust their a quiet period when maybe and I don't think this is necessarily the correct question but what helps people trust a quiet period when maybe they are not thinking or feeling that they're getting clear guidance or feeling maybe some obvious progress it's my advice would be to don't do it alone yeah and truly find someone whether it's a friend that that you can trust or some practitioner because sometimes especially at the beginning we are not used to seeing we we expect the progress to be shown the way that we've been conditioned in the past and this kind of progress it's usually more quieter at the beginning and someone from outside of you some witness from outside of you can actually point you to there is a progress that you are making but you you are just not fine-tuned yet to to acknowledge it right and the great example is when someone works on wants to manifest or create more abundance in their lives and we just expect that there is going to be a delivery of of funds into our bank account right and sometimes the abundance shows up that we get something we get to purchase something for a better price or someone offers us something right and if we start acknowledging that that this is already abundance showing into in our lives we start building the momentum we start guiding the energy in that in that direction but it's not the old programming or how we expecting things to unfold or happen is usually not the same as it actually will happen.
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And it will be the small things that will start coming into your experience and will you will you acknowledge them will you honor them will you start bringing more joy and excitement and gratitude into oh yes it's working but but at the beginning it's it's really important if if you feel that there is no guidance that whatever you are trying to create or manifest it's it's not working that there is no progress get someone to to provide that mirror yeah and and to help you start identifying the small small manifestations of that already happening and unfolding in your life is that that to build the momentum I like how you answer that because sometimes I think we get stuck on the how things come to us and we control the outcome and we have to allow it to come to us but you you you make you remind me that like as my journey has progressed I'm like oh I got a coupon heck yeah that's abundance like it's just you the way that things come to you it's may just not be the way you've like you said a a large chunk of money landing my bank account but it could be somebody offered me a scholarship it could be that somebody you know gave me a free you know class could be that I you know you just don't know how it but it's it reminds you like you said tap into the joy and the gratitude of things that come to you and then it does it does it like it's such a snowball effect of it is it is because more we tap into those higher frequencies and we lift ourselves up and we live in it then it it's like a magnet so and again like it what is important and what I've learned through the entire process is to release expectations how things need to happen.
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So true true like that creates a fence that creates another limitation that you are telling the universe this is the only way right right it's like limited exactly the minute you do that so and that's also a learning process and I think that we're gonna be learning that to quite some time it it is it is a gentle reminder for I'm sure we all do it it's like oh no but I this is how I see my life and this is how I see my life and it's but I'm sure even now for you when you look back on your spiritual journey I know when I look back I'm like I am not doing what I thought I was like going to be doing.
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Absolutely absolutely and that how things will come together or not come together or yeah it's it's it's completely different.
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But I think that that's actually the joy of so so true life would be so boring if we knew that on March 9th this will happen.
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Yeah because then it's like you don't have nothing else you're not like you're not tapped into the joy of this the the unknown is part of the experience exactly so for our last question what would you like listeners to remember about their own wisdom when they leave this conversation the thing that I would like everyone to remember that they carry enormous wisdom inside and it's each of each of us there is no difference and I believe that we are bringing forward the wisdom the information the intelligence the skills that are needed to create the new world and that each of us is participating in it.
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And the other thing that it's not necessarily maybe so related but I feel that it's important to mention is to be aware of the power of their attention that their attention is like a currency is like an investment and to be really aware of what narratives what stories that are being fed to us they are helping to they're investing in that's very it's valid because it's when your attention is currency on a lot of things and people pay a lot of money to sway your attention and they use quite interesting marketing techniques not even not even the spiritual realm when you just turn on your television or your phone that that's exactly it it's very important to pick and choose and be the commander who who chooses be it be the self-leader who chooses that okay this information that kind of narratives that kind of stories have place in my life and the others I'm choosing not to engage with them.
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That also does not mean stick your hat in in the sand and not be aware what is going on but there is a fine line of managing that how much of that noise are you really allowing into your space as opposed to just being an observer of what is actually unfolding out there.
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I I do like the that you brought up like you can't put your head in the sand like you have to be a willing participant in this life.
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It's not about avoidance it's about really managing what is the energy that I am allowing into my personal space and that does not negate the fact that you are aware what is what is actually unfolding out there.
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I like that.
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Alice I'd like to thank you so much for sharing your perspective and inviting us to listen more closely to ourselves.
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For everyone listening you can explore her work through the links in the episode description and I just want to thank you all for joining us on the Spiritual Spotlight series.