Full Transcript for Is the Veil Always Thin? A Personal Exploration

me just start at the beginning of when everything started. 00:03:03.840 --> 00:03:08.879 And I wrote it down in a diary so I wouldn't forget anything. 00:03:09.199 --> 00:03:12.159 But if I feel like I'm forgetting something, I'll reference it. 00:03:12.479 --> 00:03:15.280 Right now, I'm just gonna go off my my memory. 00:03:15.520 --> 00:03:15.840 Okay. 00:03:16.319 --> 00:03:20.400 So let's go back a week and a half, two weeks ago. 00:03:20.560 --> 00:03:26.560 Let me see time-wise, uh a week, two weeks, two weeks and a day. 00:03:26.800 --> 00:03:29.280 Let's go back two weeks and a day ago. 00:03:29.599 --> 00:03:32.879 And at that time, that was October 23rd. 00:03:33.280 --> 00:03:36.080 I go to bed after a Friday of work. 00:03:36.479 --> 00:03:37.840 I go to bed that night. 00:03:38.319 --> 00:03:39.280 I settle in. 00:03:39.520 --> 00:03:40.719 I'm nice and cozy. 00:03:40.800 --> 00:03:48.080 I got my two dogs with me, and we're all cozy in a queen size bed, just to give you a little imagery. 00:03:48.400 --> 00:03:59.039 And I'm settled in, I got my ocean sounds playing on my Alexa device, and I have this unusual dream. 00:03:59.280 --> 00:04:10.159 Now my dreams can be pretty lucid, and then I can have uh dreams that are obviously well, I think obviously fictional. 00:04:10.400 --> 00:04:17.519 Um, maybe based on an idea I had or just some place my brain goes while I'm dreaming. 00:04:17.600 --> 00:04:20.319 I really don't fully understand dreams. 00:04:20.639 --> 00:04:30.319 However, in this dream, it was very unique in the way that it uh really showed something that could be true. 00:04:30.720 --> 00:04:32.480 So I really paid attention to it. 00:04:32.639 --> 00:04:32.800 Okay. 00:04:33.199 --> 00:04:36.240 So here in that dream, I was at a market. 00:04:37.120 --> 00:04:38.800 So I was selling my goods. 00:04:38.879 --> 00:04:46.639 I was a vendor at the market, and I had a table set up and I was selling my Paganori goods. 00:04:46.959 --> 00:04:47.279 Okay. 00:04:47.920 --> 00:04:58.399 And as I was doing so, I was, you know, talking to people and and you know, having bright and happy conversations, and everything was flowing very well. 00:04:58.800 --> 00:05:07.920 And then this this man approached my table, and he says, Again, I'm just reminding you, this is all my dream right now. 00:05:08.079 --> 00:05:13.839 But he says to me, Hey, I follow your social media, your socials. 00:05:14.480 --> 00:05:28.879 And, you know, I I really like what you're doing, and uh, we start having a conversation about like spiritual stuff and ghosts and and spiritual development, and it's a very interesting conversation. 00:05:29.279 --> 00:05:32.160 Uh, I'm really enjoying the convo, actually. 00:05:32.319 --> 00:05:38.639 I mean, it's nothing to do with like a romantic connection, there's none of that's happening. 00:05:38.800 --> 00:05:46.240 It's like simply I'm really just enjoying having a one-on-one convo with someone about spiritual stuff. 00:05:46.480 --> 00:05:48.560 Because that doesn't happen very often in my life. 00:05:48.639 --> 00:05:57.040 It may happen in yours, but in my life, even though I have a podcast on spirits, witches, and demons, it's not an everyday convo for me. 00:05:57.120 --> 00:06:03.120 So when I have those deep conversations, I really, really lavish in it. 00:06:03.360 --> 00:06:06.879 And so in my dream, I was really enjoying this. 00:06:07.120 --> 00:06:11.120 And I then woke up to pee, as one does. 00:06:11.439 --> 00:06:17.360 So as I get up and go to the washroom and you know, do my business, whatever, wash my hands, go back to bed. 00:06:17.519 --> 00:06:33.680 And as I'm going back to bed, I'm thinking, oh, I really want to get back to that dream because I really want to see where that conversation leads and what kind of like insight or whatever this guy has because I'm yeah, I was really enjoying the conversation. 00:06:33.920 --> 00:06:36.399 Anyway, my dream didn't go back there. 00:06:36.480 --> 00:06:37.439 I don't know where I went. 00:06:37.519 --> 00:06:39.120 I could have gone to La La Land. 00:06:39.199 --> 00:06:43.680 I have no idea, but the dream did not go back as I had. 00:06:44.319 --> 00:06:45.360 Sorry about that. 00:06:45.519 --> 00:06:46.959 Let me take a sip of coffee. 00:06:47.120 --> 00:06:49.600 It is noon, by the way, on a Saturday. 00:06:49.920 --> 00:07:11.439 So I wake up from my slumber on uh Saturday morning, and this is the Saturday that I am going to the fortress of Louisburg to participate as a medium at the Sinister Soiree, which is an annual event. 00:07:11.759 --> 00:07:19.199 This event is unlike anything else we have in this area, very unique to this area. 00:07:19.519 --> 00:07:32.800 It's the sixth anniversary, so it's been done for the last six years, and I had never actually attended as a patron or a participant or a vendor. 00:07:33.040 --> 00:07:34.240 Never had I been. 00:07:34.399 --> 00:07:35.600 Have I been to the fortress? 00:07:35.759 --> 00:07:36.800 Oh fuck yeah. 00:07:37.040 --> 00:07:38.399 I love the fortress. 00:07:38.639 --> 00:07:46.079 And now, in order to participate in this event, I did need to join the association, which is the Fortress of Louisburg Association. 00:07:46.240 --> 00:07:52.879 That has no part in this story, but to say that I am proud to be a member. 00:07:53.040 --> 00:07:56.560 Anyway, um, I do love that site and I talk about it a lot. 00:07:56.720 --> 00:08:00.639 There's like a whole episode on the ghosts of the fortress. 00:08:01.199 --> 00:08:05.680 However, I go out, so my dream was the night before. 00:08:05.759 --> 00:08:26.639 I go out to the fortress that evening, and I'm getting all set up, and the house where I'm set up to do my readings, I'm sharing the house with another friend of mine who's also a medium, and we're having like ta-ta hee hee discussions about like life and just shoot the shit, right? 00:08:26.879 --> 00:08:33.200 And I tell him about

this dream, not in full detail, but just like the the highlights. 00:08:33.279 --> 00:08:34.240 I tell him about this dream. 00:08:34.320 --> 00:08:37.360 He's like, oh, maybe you'll meet this guy. 00:08:37.679 --> 00:08:42.639 And I thought, I might, and I really want to know where that conversation was going. 00:08:42.799 --> 00:08:45.360 Like that that is what stood out. 00:08:45.440 --> 00:08:57.600 And I know that sounds like bullshit, but I seriously, if I could stress anything to anyone, having deep conversations with people is more enticing to me than a flirt. 00:08:57.840 --> 00:08:58.960 Honest to fuck. 00:08:59.039 --> 00:09:00.879 That is more enticing to me. 00:09:01.120 --> 00:09:06.320 So, and that will play a part in this story going forward, so just keep note on that. 00:09:06.559 --> 00:09:13.440 Okay, so I'm doing readings, and I do have a vendor's table at this event as well, but I'm not working it. 00:09:13.679 --> 00:09:17.039 And my dream was specific that I was at the vendor's table. 00:09:17.360 --> 00:09:20.879 So I kind of knew, nah, I'm not gonna meet this person tonight. 00:09:20.960 --> 00:09:22.399 And everybody's in costume. 00:09:22.559 --> 00:09:25.919 This person wasn't really in a costume, right? 00:09:26.639 --> 00:09:30.720 Um, but the person in my dream did give me their name. 00:09:30.879 --> 00:09:35.279 So I knew their name and I knew what they looked like. 00:09:35.519 --> 00:09:37.440 Okay, so let's move forward. 00:09:37.759 --> 00:09:40.399 Sinister Soiree goes off without a hitch. 00:09:40.639 --> 00:09:41.759 Wonderful event. 00:09:42.080 --> 00:09:45.679 600 participants showed up in costume. 00:09:45.919 --> 00:09:49.039 99.9% of them were in costume. 00:09:49.360 --> 00:09:56.799 Uh, we had volunteers there from the Coast Guard College, we had volunteers from the association, volunteers from the Veteran Society. 00:09:57.039 --> 00:09:59.360 We it it was just, it was a smash. 00:09:59.519 --> 00:10:03.440 There was probably 800 plus people at the fortress. 00:10:03.600 --> 00:10:20.960 It was lively, there were lights, there was music, there was live music, there was uh DJ music, and I really saw none of it because I was sat doing readings, meeting some amazing, amazing people, and telling them what their spirit families wanted them to know. 00:10:21.200 --> 00:10:28.159 So that's what I did all night, and I literally saw only what was outside the window and who came in to see me. 00:10:28.480 --> 00:10:34.639 Anyway, that being said, the week goes by, and it's an uneventful week. 00:10:34.799 --> 00:10:35.120 Okay. 00:10:35.519 --> 00:10:39.440 Uneventful, I go to work, I'm extremely tired. 00:10:39.600 --> 00:10:42.399 Um, doing readings takes a lot out of me. 00:10:42.480 --> 00:10:45.519 I'm sure any medium out there can understand that. 00:10:45.679 --> 00:10:49.039 Uh, when you put your energy out there, you get a little tired. 00:10:49.120 --> 00:10:51.600 It's like if you went to the gym

for five or six hours. 00:10:51.759 --> 00:10:53.200 Like it really does. 00:10:53.360 --> 00:10:54.720 It's a mental gym. 00:10:54.960 --> 00:10:57.279 Okay, I'm speeding along now. 00:10:57.440 --> 00:10:59.039 The next Friday arrives. 00:10:59.200 --> 00:11:03.279 So this is now one week from the date I had my dream. 00:11:03.519 --> 00:11:03.840 Okay? 00:11:04.480 --> 00:11:06.799 And I'm going to another event. 00:11:07.120 --> 00:11:11.600 This event is uh one the one I mentioned in my last episode. 00:11:11.840 --> 00:11:21.679 So I went to the Savoy, and the Savoy is a theater, a live theater, uh, here in the hometown I live in. 00:11:21.840 --> 00:11:23.200 Uh so you can look it up. 00:11:23.279 --> 00:11:27.360 I know I'm not really gatekeeping any secrets here. 00:11:27.600 --> 00:11:29.759 You can look it up where I live, whatever. 00:11:30.000 --> 00:11:39.200 Um, and so I get there and I'm setting up, and I have a medium table, mediumship table, and I also have a vendor's table. 00:11:39.279 --> 00:11:44.000 So my mediumship table is on the upper floor and my vendor's table is on the main floor. 00:11:44.080 --> 00:11:49.200 And I'm setting up and I get my vendor's table all set up and I go upstairs to set up my mediumship table. 00:11:49.360 --> 00:11:53.519 And I had this feeling since like before I arrived that day. 00:11:53.840 --> 00:11:59.039 The my friend that was supposed to do the uh vendor's table, I hadn't heard from them. 00:11:59.360 --> 00:12:07.360 So I reached out to them saying, hey, you know, I haven't heard from you, just wanted to reconfirm that we're still on for the Savoy. 00:12:07.600 --> 00:12:14.320 Um, I got everything set up, but you know, if you could be here between such and such time. 00:12:14.720 --> 00:12:24.320 And lo and behold, I knew, I knew from the moment the day started, I knew, but so I wasn't shocked at all. 00:12:24.559 --> 00:12:28.320 But something emergency did come up where they couldn't make it. 00:12:28.639 --> 00:12:33.600 So that being said, my medium ship table had to go away. 00:12:33.679 --> 00:12:35.279 Like I I couldn't do both. 00:12:35.440 --> 00:12:50.720 So I gave up the medium ship table, and to be fair, I probably could have made more money reading than I did vending, but universe works in mysterious ways, and I already had my vendor's table set up with all my merchandise. 00:12:50.879 --> 00:12:56.159 It looked stunning, I was ready, so I'm like, I'll do the vending. 00:12:56.399 --> 00:13:02.559 So I went downstairs, I canceled the mediumship table, I went downstairs, and I was the vendor. 00:13:02.799 --> 00:13:06.799 So I was actually at the vendor's table, which I was not supposed to be. 00:13:07.120 --> 00:13:19.600 And about halfway, three-quarters of the way through the evening, this gentleman came up to the table, and we started having he he opened with I I watch your socials. 00:13:20.000 --> 00:13:25.759 And first and foremost, I went, holy fuck, that's that's the same thing the guy said in my dream. 00:13:26.080 --> 00:13:34.000 He doesn't look the same, like there's a difference to his appearance, but that opening line was the same. 00:13:34.320 --> 00:13:40.960 Then we start having a combo, like a seriously deep conversation about everything spiritual. 00:13:41.200 --> 00:13:44.320 And I'm like, holy fuck, this is the same as my dream. 00:13:44.480 --> 00:13:47.519 Like this is literally play for play. 00:13:47.759 --> 00:13:50.639 Like, this is absolutely fucked up. 00:13:50.879 --> 00:13:58.960 Then he tells me at the very end when he's leaving, oh, by the name, by the way, my name is, and he gives me his name. 00:13:59.200 --> 00:14:03.919 And I went, holy fuck, that's the name from my dream. 00:14:04.240 --> 00:14:08.159 I'm meeting, I'm literally living out the dream I had a week ago. 00:14:08.399 --> 00:14:10.080 This is messed up. 00:14:10.320 --> 00:14:13.440 So I'm pretty excited, but my flags are up. 00:14:13.519 --> 00:14:15.679 Like the red flags are soaring. 00:14:15.759 --> 00:14:29.919 They are sorid because of a few things that he said during our conversation that really stuck out to me as being not only odd, but a little a little too on the nose and too direct. 00:14:30.559 --> 00:14:33.440 That I was like, hmm, who are you? 00:14:33.759 --> 00:14:34.799 What are you? 00:14:35.039 --> 00:14:36.320 Why are you here? 00:14:36.559 --> 00:14:37.759 What is going on? 00:14:38.000 --> 00:14:49.840 Okay, so let's now move forward because last week I left you off with uh a recording before I went to my final grand finale event at the Joast House. 00:14:50.080 --> 00:14:51.600 Well, okay. 00:14:52.240 --> 00:14:57.519 This is where the story goes and takes a real fucked up turn, okay? 00:14:57.759 --> 00:14:59.039 Are you guys seated? 00:14:59.200 --> 00:15:00.720 Are you ready for this? 00:15:00.960 --> 00:15:03.840 I'm gonna have a little sip of coffee before I continue. 00:15:04.879 --> 00:15:06.960 Because you're not ready for this, I promise you. 00:15:07.279 --> 00:15:07.600 Okay. 00:15:08.240 --> 00:15:13.759 So we arrive, me and my my friend arrive at the Joast house. 00:15:13.919 --> 00:15:15.919 Um, she's like my partner crime. 00:15:16.080 --> 00:15:18.480 Anyway, you you've seen her before, you've met her before. 00:15:18.639 --> 00:15:18.960 Emily. 00:15:19.360 --> 00:15:21.039 She's been on the podcast a few times. 00:15:21.279 --> 00:15:33.519 Anyway, um, we get to the Jo'est house, she opens it up, and we load everything in, we get all set up, and it's fucking hot in that house, I'll tell you. 00:15:33.600 --> 00:15:35.679 It was it was a nice day, Halloween. 00:15:35.840 --> 00:15:40.159 It was not too shabby, and it was a little warm in the Jo's house. 00:15:40.320 --> 00:15:47.440 So after we get everything set up, all the cameras are set, uh, audio set, the food's all set up, all the clothing, everything's set. 00:15:47.600 --> 00:15:52.080 We're like, let's go the fuck

outside and get a breath of air, right? 00:15:52.240 --> 00:16:01.039 So we go outside, and the first thing that happens, the first thing that happens, oh my god, yeah, I literally audibly gasped. 00:16:01.279 --> 00:16:03.200 This is how scary this was. 00:16:03.519 --> 00:16:03.840 Okay. 00:16:04.240 --> 00:16:06.480 Are you oh, I don't know if you're ready for this. 00:16:06.720 --> 00:16:07.039 Okay. 00:16:07.840 --> 00:16:09.200 She keeps saying okay. 00:16:09.440 --> 00:16:10.720 I'm a little nervous. 00:16:10.960 --> 00:16:22.639 So there was this lady, nothing strange about her, walking, and she had this like really thick rope, and the rope was, I guess, a lead on a dog. 00:16:23.039 --> 00:16:28.000 But we couldn't see the dog, just the angle of where she was coming from and where we were standing in front of the house. 00:16:28.159 --> 00:16:39.840 Anyway, um, by the time the end of the rope arrived and the dog was there, the dog was walking kind of sideways and staring at us. 00:16:40.159 --> 00:16:42.320 Like literally staring at us. 00:16:42.480 --> 00:16:46.159 And I went, I gasped, and she looked at me. 00:16:46.320 --> 00:16:55.679 The lady looked at me in the eyes to cover my horror because it looked like like a Wendigo or something or a dogman, right? 00:16:55.919 --> 00:17:03.759 Anyway, I audibly gasped, and I I just said, What a lovely German shepherd you have. 00:17:04.079 --> 00:17:06.000 It is absolutely beautiful. 00:17:06.160 --> 00:17:11.599 That dog is beautiful, and of course she's like, Thank you so much, blah, blah, blah. 00:17:11.839 --> 00:17:20.240 Anyway, she leaves, and as she crosses the road with her dog, who, by the way, is no longer staring at us, but that was the fucking creepiest shit. 00:17:20.480 --> 00:17:22.799 Why are you walking sideways staring at us? 00:17:22.960 --> 00:17:29.759 Anyway, maybe the dog just didn't realize that he'd, you know, walk up the road and see two other humans. 00:17:30.559 --> 00:17:31.839 I have no idea. 00:17:32.160 --> 00:17:35.440 But it was definitely creepy and weird. 00:17:35.759 --> 00:17:37.440 And I have two dogs. 00:17:37.599 --> 00:17:38.880 I love dogs, right? 00:17:38.960 --> 00:17:40.720 Like, dogs don't scare me. 00:17:40.960 --> 00:17:45.279 But for whatever reason, I I was a taken abat. 00:17:45.759 --> 00:17:54.799 And as they walk across the road and head in the opposite direction to where we were, Emily says, Oh, here comes a lad. 00:17:55.440 --> 00:18:02.559 Which was out of character, even though Emily is great and very dramatic, and I love her energy. 00:18:02.880 --> 00:18:12.640 That specific sentence and the way she approached having somebody walk towards us was very strange. 00:18:12.799 --> 00:18:14.480 And I took notice of it right away. 00:18:14.559 --> 00:18:16.720 And I'm like, oh, okay. 00:18:16.960 --> 00:18:23.359 And I take a look, and there is a lad walking down the sidewalk, and he's in costume. 00:18:23.519 --> 00:18:41.759 It is Halloween night, no surprise here, but he's in costume, no mask, but he's in costume, and more like a Victorian, like um, almost like a uh a spin doctor or uh plague plague doctor, whatever. 00:18:41.920 --> 00:18:44.559 Um, that kind of idea, no mask. 00:18:44.799 --> 00:18:45.119 Okay. 00:18:46.640 --> 00:18:47.599 Pardon me. 00:18:47.839 --> 00:19:00.400 And uh as he approaches, Emily is like in I am standing, just to give you like context and and visual here, I am in front of the entry door facing the street. 00:19:00.640 --> 00:19:12.960 So I am standing facing the street, and Emily is in front of me facing me, but also facing this uh the direction of the sidewalk where this lad is walking. 00:19:13.200 --> 00:19:16.559 And he is approaching from our right hand side. 00:19:16.880 --> 00:19:27.279 So she can see him and me, and he approaches her, and then as he approaches her, he stops and he literally does an about face and faces me. 00:19:27.680 --> 00:19:32.799 And both Emily and I were like, um, hello? 00:19:34.079 --> 00:19:35.279 How are you? 00:19:35.920 --> 00:19:38.640 And my event was really small, guys. 00:19:38.799 --> 00:19:44.319 I knew every name of all the participants and all the people who should be in that house. 00:19:44.640 --> 00:19:45.920 Nobody was there yet. 00:19:46.079 --> 00:19:50.480 We were we were ready ahead of time, so nobody was there, and this guy shows up. 00:19:50.799 --> 00:19:55.759 And I asked him, I said, Oh, are you here for the event? 00:19:56.000 --> 00:19:57.359 And he's like, Oh yeah. 00:19:57.519 --> 00:20:00.799 And I'm like, Okay, do you have a ticket? 00:20:01.039 --> 00:20:03.200 It's a ticketed event, guys. 00:20:03.519 --> 00:20:05.519 And he's like, Yeah. 00:20:05.759 --> 00:20:07.839 I said, Well, may I see it? 00:20:08.079 --> 00:20:09.519 And he's like, Yeah, okay. 00:20:09.680 --> 00:20:13.759 And he shows me a QR code from the poster I put up around town. 00:20:13.920 --> 00:20:17.680 And I'm like, Well, that's not the the receipt. 00:20:17.839 --> 00:20:23.680 Can you show me the receipt where you purchased it on the uh the purchasing platform? 00:20:23.920 --> 00:20:26.240 And he's like, Oh yeah, I I have an email. 00:20:26.400 --> 00:20:34.640 I purchased it on this specific date for this amount of money, and the amount of money was$78.50 Canadian. 00:20:34.880 --> 00:20:43.359 Well, that was a huge red flag to me, guys, because my event was priced at$79.99 plus service fee and tax. 00:20:43.920 --> 00:20:49.279 So$78.50 all in was definitely not the price of my event. 00:20:49.599 --> 00:20:56.559 Anywho, we go inside because it's starting to get a little weird to be talking about this on the sidewalk. 00:20:56.720 --> 00:21:06.240 So we go inside the Poirier and I'm looking up on my end, on my uh phone, to see did I miss a ticket? 00:21:06.400 --> 00:21:09.599 Like I'm giving this guy somewhat of a benefit of the doubt, right? 00:21:09.920 --> 00:21:13.920 I do have a camera

running it in the next room. 00:21:14.160 --> 00:21:18.160 So I do actually have audio of our conversation inside the house. 00:21:18.400 --> 00:21:23.680 If I need to prove anything to anyone, I have audio of this conversation. 00:21:24.079 --> 00:21:27.519 So I'm looking through and I'm like, I can't find it. 00:21:27.680 --> 00:21:29.920 Like, do you live nearby? 00:21:30.079 --> 00:21:31.599 And he's like, Yeah, I live nearby. 00:21:31.680 --> 00:21:40.480 I'm like, well, listen, if it's not too much trouble, could you go home, print off the paper, like the actual receipt, bring it back here. 00:21:40.720 --> 00:21:46.000 Even if you arrive after we've locked the doors, just give a good bang on the door, we'll come open it. 00:21:46.240 --> 00:21:51.519 And if you have actual proof, I will absolutely honor it. 00:21:51.839 --> 00:21:59.759 But I need to see that so that if you did get scammed, because that is my concern, if you paid a certain price and that's lower than my even. 00:22:00.240 --> 00:22:05.200 Starting before tax and service fees, I'm concerned that you got scammed, right? 00:22:05.599 --> 00:22:11.680 So I would like to see that receipt so that I will honor it for you, number one. 00:22:11.759 --> 00:22:19.200 And number two, I can go back to the uh hosting platform and get my money for you to attend the event. 00:22:19.440 --> 00:22:22.160 So anyway, he's like, yeah, okay, that that makes sense. 00:22:22.240 --> 00:22:22.720 Yep. 00:22:22.880 --> 00:22:24.000 And he leaves. 00:22:24.319 --> 00:22:26.079 He never showed back up. 00:22:26.400 --> 00:22:29.039 So that was, and we called that. 00:22:29.200 --> 00:22:33.920 As soon as he left, both Emily and I looked at each other saying, he's not coming back. 00:22:34.160 --> 00:22:35.119 There's no way. 00:22:35.359 --> 00:22:36.240 There's no way. 00:22:36.559 --> 00:22:42.079 So it's own that could have been like, oh, that was a weird thing. 00:22:42.160 --> 00:22:45.599 He was just trying to get a free event on Halloween, right? 00:22:46.000 --> 00:23:03.599 But I am compiling this event, this circumstance, this thing that happened with my dream, with the um event at the Savoy, with what's coming up next. 00:23:04.160 --> 00:23:12.640 So we're in the Joast house, everybody shows up, we're all having a great time, things are flowing well, there's a lot of people in the house, there are a lot of spirits in the house. 00:23:12.960 --> 00:23:17.440 And this is the tenth investigation I've done in this house. 00:23:17.680 --> 00:23:35.920 And in 10 investigations, only twice in very small, very small, like one word kind of thing, scenarios, did anything demonic show up, or anything negative entity at all show up. 00:23:36.079 --> 00:23:43.680 Yet Halloween night, and I know Halloween, and this is why I wanted to do this topic today, the veil, quote unquote, is thin. 00:23:44.000 --> 00:23:47.519 Almost everything that came through was demonic. 00:23:47.839 --> 00:23:51.440 And I was like, what the hell is going on here? 00:23:51.680 --> 00:23:53.680 Like, seriously, what is going on? 00:23:53.839 --> 00:23:57.359 We had pictures show up that are demonic pictures. 00:23:57.599 --> 00:24:08.720 We had words, we had phrases, we had without me nor Emily saying a word about the dude that showed up before anybody else, because he was showed up and gone before anybody showed up. 00:24:08.880 --> 00:24:10.240 And we didn't talk about it. 00:24:10.480 --> 00:24:13.680 We said nothing to nobody, I promise you. 00:24:14.000 --> 00:24:16.000 So we just went on with the night. 00:24:16.079 --> 00:24:18.079 We just literally started the night with everybody. 00:24:18.319 --> 00:24:19.759 Why talk about it, right? 00:24:20.400 --> 00:24:26.240 Anyway, um, so nobody was primed with this information is how is what I'm trying to say. 00:24:26.400 --> 00:24:27.839 Nobody was primed with this. 00:24:28.079 --> 00:24:44.960 And yet I had my own guests who had never experienced, who had been there before, who had never experienced anything demonic in that house before, knew that I did work with the dark, and but I was able to keep it out of the house because the house is very light and loving. 00:24:45.200 --> 00:24:51.359 Um, they were coming up to me talking about things coming through that reference demons. 00:24:52.000 --> 00:25:03.440 And so my cackles go up, and I think of the guy that showed up, I think of my dream, I think of the interaction I had the night before, and I'm just keeping this internalized for now. 00:25:03.599 --> 00:25:18.960 I'm not saying anything, I'm not I'm not asking any questions of any devices, literally, and I know I'm saying this to you, but I literally have audio and video proof that I didn't prime anything for anyone. 00:25:19.279 --> 00:25:30.799 So, and if you want to see that, you can go over on my TikTok and you can also view uh Haunt Mess's TikTok uh because literally there is audio and video from the whole night. 00:25:31.039 --> 00:25:31.359 Okay. 00:25:31.920 --> 00:25:34.960 We we conclude the night. 00:25:35.200 --> 00:25:37.359 Everybody had a wonderful time. 00:25:37.599 --> 00:25:46.400 Uh at one point before people started to really focus on the basement, I did go down and I did tell because I did feel that negative energy. 00:25:46.559 --> 00:25:48.319 Again, I was internalizing it. 00:25:48.480 --> 00:25:54.400 I was trying to keep it at bay, but I did go down and say, listen, I know you're here. 00:25:54.720 --> 00:26:00.160 And all I ask, I'm not prepared to fight you right now and and force you out of this house. 00:26:00.400 --> 00:26:03.920 All I ask is that uh you don't hurt anybody. 00:26:04.079 --> 00:26:05.680 Literally harm people. 00:26:06.000 --> 00:26:08.720 Do not do that, or we will have a problem. 00:26:08.880 --> 00:26:11.440 Like I will I will do something. 00:26:11.599 --> 00:26:13.440 I don't know what I could have done, guys. 00:26:13.519 --> 00:26:16.000 Uh I'm just

saying this is what I said to the thing. 00:26:16.160 --> 00:26:16.480 Okay? 00:26:16.880 --> 00:26:20.000 I'm not saying I'm all powerful, mighty, blah, blah, blah. 00:26:20.160 --> 00:26:22.319 That's not what I'm saying, so don't get me twisted. 00:26:22.559 --> 00:26:27.359 But I did just acknowledge that it was there and say and set boundaries. 00:26:27.599 --> 00:26:29.440 I just wanted to set some boundaries. 00:26:29.599 --> 00:26:34.240 So I asked it not to harm anything or anyone, and then I said, you know what? 00:26:34.400 --> 00:26:36.640 If you want to fuck with people, quit them. 00:26:36.799 --> 00:26:46.720 Like, pull their hair, touch them, uh say things, show images, do whatever you want, but just don't hurt anyone. 00:26:46.880 --> 00:26:48.720 That's my only boundary. 00:26:48.960 --> 00:26:50.799 But if you want to have fun, have fun. 00:26:50.960 --> 00:26:52.720 It's Halloween after all. 00:26:53.039 --> 00:27:03.680 So the night goes on, people did get touched, hair did get pulled, um, things did happen, people did see things, uh, but we had a fun night overall. 00:27:04.000 --> 00:27:11.359 And at the end of the night, after everyone left, except for one guest who was Emily's best friend, so she got to stay. 00:27:11.519 --> 00:27:15.519 Um, we were packing up and debriefing as we packed up everything. 00:27:15.839 --> 00:27:19.440 And we were talking about everything that happened during the night. 00:27:19.599 --> 00:27:29.200 And that's when we fully started talking about all the demon shit that came through on the devices and people's experiences and that kind of thing. 00:27:29.359 --> 00:27:30.960 We started to actually talk about it. 00:27:31.200 --> 00:27:34.559 And then we talked about the dude that showed up and never came back. 00:27:34.799 --> 00:27:44.720 And then I told Emily, who had no clue about this, by the way, no idea about my dream and the night before what had happened. 00:27:45.039 --> 00:28:15.279 And I concluded after all of that was put together, the whole thing, the dream, October 23rd, the Savoy, October 30th, that that night, October 31st, everything that happened, all the things that combined as like a one um something that was like compiled into one thing, it I was convinced I had met a demon who had taken human form. 00:28:15.680 --> 00:28:22.319 And I was shocked and dismayed, and I didn't believe it. 00:28:22.480 --> 00:28:32.799 Um I also started the whole night with the group saying I never believed that quote unquote the veil could be thinned on a specific night. 00:28:33.119 --> 00:28:54.640 So a lot of my misconceptions were proven wrong, and that's why tonight we are going to talk about the veil and specifically my mediumship, because this is the whole basis of this podcast, is this is my spiritual journey, and you guys are just along for this fucked up ride. 00:28:54.880 --> 00:29:00.640 So if you're ready after that really messy story, let's begin. 00:29:03.039 --> 00:29:08.240 So I am discussing spiritual beliefs and personal interpretations. 00:29:08.400 --> 00:29:13.759 This is not uh, and I'm just disclaimer, guys, just a forewarning. 00:29:14.160 --> 00:29:17.920 This I'm not presenting proof of unseen beings. 00:29:18.319 --> 00:29:24.079 An experience can feel powerful without us knowing exactly what caused it. 00:29:24.319 --> 00:29:27.920 So I do want to leave room for that uncertainty. 00:29:28.160 --> 00:29:40.160 Think of the veil as a metaphor for the boundary between everyday life and what some traditions describe as the spiritual or unseen world. 00:29:40.720 --> 00:29:58.960 When someone says it feels quote unquote thin, I just hit the mic, sorry about that, they mean they may mean that their dreams feel more vivid, their intuition feels stronger, or their sense of connection to loved ones feels a little closer. 00:29:59.119 --> 00:30:01.759 That's the language of the experience. 00:30:02.079 --> 00:30:13.680 It isn't by itself an explanation for the experience, the timing, seasonal beliefs, and everyday sensitivity. 00:30:14.000 --> 00:30:22.240 So much of the conversation about the veil thinning centers on late October, Halloween, and sowen. 00:30:23.519 --> 00:30:34.079 You may also hear people connect with equinoxes, full moons, eclipses, and moments of personal transition. 00:30:34.319 --> 00:30:41.119 Within the spiritual framework, these are times people associate with heightened connection. 00:30:41.279 --> 00:30:45.920 But I don't want to turn that into a rule everyone must follow. 00:30:46.240 --> 00:30:51.920 You see, for me, that feeling isn't limited to a few dates. 00:30:52.160 --> 00:30:57.200 I feel what I describe as a thin veil most days of the year. 00:30:57.440 --> 00:31:03.599 So I've wondered, if that's my experience, how useful is a seasonal calendar? 00:31:03.920 --> 00:31:15.599 Maybe the more helpful question is not is it the right time to feel something, but what am I noticing and how is it affecting me? 00:31:15.839 --> 00:31:20.400 So I just want to pause there just for a second and add a little interlude. 00:31:20.720 --> 00:31:29.359 Um, one thing I did notice this year is that I felt it like the veil being a little thinner. 00:31:29.519 --> 00:31:31.039 I've never felt that before. 00:31:31.200 --> 00:31:37.519 Like I've never actually felt closer connection where I my body tingled. 00:31:37.759 --> 00:31:39.039 Like literally feeling. 00:31:39.279 --> 00:31:42.720 I'm not talking about sensing, talking about feeling. 00:31:42.960 --> 00:31:44.799 So I had tingles. 00:31:45.119 --> 00:31:50.079 My head would feel like numb on one side, like something was touching me. 00:31:50.319 --> 00:32:01.759 Um, I'd get goosebumps easier than I normally do, and I do get goosebumps fairly easy, I will, I will admit, but I'd get them just a little easier, like constantly. 00:32:01.920 --> 00:32:04.079 As soon as something would happen, I'd get goosies. 00:32:04.400 --> 00:32:07.920 I'd

get these uh goosebumps all over me. 00:32:08.160 --> 00:32:16.480 Um I'd also feel a little distracted, which I mean to be fair, let's let's let's be honest, Barb. 00:32:16.960 --> 00:32:18.240 That's normal. 00:32:18.880 --> 00:32:21.759 Being distracted, ADHD, squirrel. 00:32:21.920 --> 00:32:23.839 Um that's normal. 00:32:24.160 --> 00:32:26.480 But it was even more heightened. 00:32:26.640 --> 00:32:30.079 Like it was like I couldn't keep a straight thought. 00:32:30.400 --> 00:32:37.759 And then when I did have a thought, like when I was centered, it was like hyper-fixated, centered. 00:32:37.920 --> 00:32:40.960 Fixated, no, fixated, centered. 00:32:41.200 --> 00:32:43.599 It was like extremes. 00:32:43.920 --> 00:32:45.599 That's the best way I can describe it. 00:32:45.759 --> 00:32:54.160 Like it was as if I was going from one extreme to the other constantly, and it was exhausting. 00:32:54.400 --> 00:33:01.359 The veil, I think they're saying it's still thin right now, so it could be why I'm still like woo-hoo. 00:33:01.839 --> 00:33:04.000 But that's what I noticed. 00:33:04.319 --> 00:33:11.440 I do feel like whenever anybody said the veil's thinner at this time of year, I was like, what the fuck are you talking about? 00:33:11.680 --> 00:33:15.119 Because it felt the same to me, regardless. 00:33:15.440 --> 00:33:32.880 But that's I believe my mediumship, and that's what I'm kind of exploring here, is the mediumship and um being able to connect to spirit on a daily basis versus a seasonal or based on different calendar events. 00:33:33.039 --> 00:33:34.480 So let's continue. 00:33:34.799 --> 00:33:35.759 Sensitivity. 00:33:36.000 --> 00:33:37.920 I need another sip of coffee. 00:33:38.240 --> 00:33:44.079 Okay, sensitivity making room for more than just one explanation. 00:33:44.319 --> 00:33:47.440 Oh that leads to another question I've asked. 00:33:47.759 --> 00:33:52.240 Could this feeling be connected to what I understand as mediumship? 00:33:52.559 --> 00:34:03.039 So if you guys are going through your own spiritual awakening, if you're a medium, if you're an empath, any of those things, maybe you'll feel the same as I did here. 00:34:03.359 --> 00:34:06.480 Mediumship is one spiritual interpretation. 00:34:06.640 --> 00:34:17.280 It's framework, some people it's a framework some people use to make sense of intuition, vivid impressions, or feeling of connection. 00:34:17.440 --> 00:34:24.320 But I wouldn't want to say that having those experiences prove someone is a medium. 00:34:24.559 --> 00:34:27.199 They could be an empath, they could just be sensitive. 00:34:27.440 --> 00:34:31.039 The radiodial image is helpful here. 00:34:31.519 --> 00:34:39.760 As a metaphor, image uh imagine feeling tuned in to several stations at once. 00:34:40.000 --> 00:34:45.360 There's a lot coming through, and it can be difficult to decide what deserves your attention. 00:34:45.519 --> 00:34:53.599 You don't have to settle the question of where every impression comes from before choosing a boundary. 00:34:53.840 --> 00:34:56.559 You can simply say, I need a break. 00:34:56.719 --> 00:34:59.440 I'm turning my attention back to everyday life. 00:34:59.760 --> 00:35:05.440 And not every unusual feeling needs to be have a spiritual label. 00:35:05.679 --> 00:35:12.239 I can notice what happened, reflect on it, and leave the explanation open. 00:35:12.719 --> 00:35:21.599 So here, what I'm trying to say is for me, it's either completely on or I can shut it completely off. 00:35:21.920 --> 00:35:31.760 I call that putting up my blocks, although put I didn't use those terms here because putting up blocks can be different for other people. 00:35:32.239 --> 00:35:36.000 For me, that just means I am setting my boundaries. 00:35:36.400 --> 00:35:44.559 Um and having like having a spiritual label on everything, I don't think is helpful, guys. 00:35:44.880 --> 00:35:59.360 I think being an intuitive and using your intuition, not only it for mediumship, but for everyday life, by saying, you know what, I feel like I just need to step back and take a break right now. 00:35:59.519 --> 00:36:00.639 That's great. 00:36:00.960 --> 00:36:03.360 I feel like I want to connect. 00:36:03.599 --> 00:36:10.639 I'm taking a step back and I've put up those boundaries, but now I've just met this person, I'm having a lovely conversation. 00:36:10.719 --> 00:36:14.400 I'm gonna drop those boundaries because I feel like I should. 00:36:14.639 --> 00:36:16.320 I feel like I want to. 00:36:16.559 --> 00:36:19.119 So that's how I use my intuition. 00:36:19.280 --> 00:36:22.800 I also use it in mediumship work, I use it in my everyday life. 00:36:22.960 --> 00:36:25.760 My intuition is like literally my go-to. 00:36:26.320 --> 00:36:31.039 Um, I call it my my gut instinct, my intuition, whatever you want to call it. 00:36:31.280 --> 00:36:40.239 However, for me, the important distinction is being curious because that doesn't require being certain. 00:36:40.639 --> 00:36:42.480 So I just leave it open. 00:36:42.719 --> 00:36:44.400 I hope that's helpful to you. 00:36:44.719 --> 00:36:48.639 Um, being a medium does not need to be perfect. 00:36:48.960 --> 00:36:50.639 Same with being a witch. 00:36:50.880 --> 00:36:56.480 You don't need to do a spell or a ritual exactly the way someone else does it. 00:36:56.800 --> 00:37:13.199 Maybe learning from a priestess or learning from as a medium, learning from another medium, having a mentor is helpful, but it doesn't necessarily dictate how you should do it or how you have to do it. 00:37:13.280 --> 00:37:21.440 I guess have to is the better uh wording there, because there's no have to in anything spiritual or paranormal. 00:37:21.679 --> 00:37:23.199 There's there's just not. 00:37:23.519 --> 00:37:30.400 And if anyone out there says there is, tell them to go themselves. 00:37:30.800 --> 00:37:38.960 Because honestly, if we're living our own lives, no one else gets to dictate how

we do that. 00:37:39.199 --> 00:37:43.360 The only dictation out there is if you are harming someone else. 00:37:43.519 --> 00:37:47.360 But if you're not harming anybody, tell them to go fuck themselves. 00:37:47.599 --> 00:37:49.840 Honestly, that's all I do. 00:37:50.159 --> 00:37:52.559 I literally just don't give a shit. 00:37:52.800 --> 00:37:54.400 I don't give a shit. 00:37:54.719 --> 00:37:55.039 Okay. 00:37:55.599 --> 00:37:56.880 And that was a little tangent. 00:37:56.960 --> 00:37:57.840 I'm sorry about that. 00:37:58.079 --> 00:37:59.280 Back on board. 00:37:59.599 --> 00:38:01.440 Unsettling encounters. 00:38:01.599 --> 00:38:04.159 Experience, interpretation, and stories. 00:38:04.320 --> 00:38:07.599 Well, I told you a little bit about my story, right? 00:38:07.840 --> 00:38:14.000 Let's see, now uh this is more sensitive part of this conversation. 00:38:14.239 --> 00:38:23.360 Uh I had an encounter that I interpreted at the time as m as a meeting a demonic being in human form. 00:38:23.599 --> 00:38:25.119 So I told you about that. 00:38:25.360 --> 00:38:27.199 That was my interpretation. 00:38:27.440 --> 00:38:33.280 Not something I can establish as fact about that person I encountered. 00:38:33.440 --> 00:38:39.519 Like I said, the dude that showed up, he could have easily been just a stupid human trying to get in. 00:38:39.840 --> 00:38:40.639 Easily. 00:38:40.960 --> 00:38:43.440 But it raised a question for me. 00:38:43.760 --> 00:38:49.440 Are there older stories about spiritual beings appearing in human form? 00:38:50.320 --> 00:38:54.320 So I wanted to know, has this happened to other people? 00:38:54.639 --> 00:38:56.719 Has anyone else experienced this? 00:38:57.039 --> 00:39:03.039 Because I'll tell you one thing, guys, and I'm sure I've said this a number of times before. 00:39:03.360 --> 00:39:10.239 I don't go out there and say, oh, well, I think I might have this kind of experience in the future. 00:39:10.320 --> 00:39:12.079 How many people have done that before? 00:39:12.239 --> 00:39:16.079 Well what's the common reality of this in in the world? 00:39:16.320 --> 00:39:17.679 I don't fucking care. 00:39:17.840 --> 00:39:24.159 I just live my life and experience what I experience, and then after the fact say, that was odd. 00:39:24.320 --> 00:39:26.719 I wonder if that ever happened to anybody else. 00:39:26.880 --> 00:39:29.840 Well, lo and behold, lo and behold. 00:39:30.159 --> 00:39:38.000 Okay, so the material that I started with draws on Christian accounts, of course, Christianity. 00:39:38.320 --> 00:39:52.400 It's everywhere, of deceptive appearances, Islamic stories about jinn, African shape-shifting folklore, and European occult traditions. 00:39:52.719 --> 00:40:02.239 It also points to biblical accounts of divine visitors and the idea of welcoming angels without recognizing them. 00:40:02.480 --> 00:40:07.119 Because of course I do believe in both light and dark. 00:40:07.360 --> 00:40:13.119 Therefore, if I meet a dark inhuman form, why couldn't I have met a light in human form? 00:40:13.360 --> 00:40:15.440 So of course I'm curious about both. 00:40:15.599 --> 00:40:17.039 How do you guys feel about that? 00:40:17.199 --> 00:40:18.639 Like where do you guys lie? 00:40:18.800 --> 00:40:20.239 I just I'm curious. 00:40:20.559 --> 00:40:24.320 These uh belong to different religions and cultural traditions. 00:40:24.559 --> 00:40:33.679 I don't want to flatten them into one story or use them as evidence that a particular encounter was supernatural. 00:40:34.000 --> 00:40:45.280 For this episode just for today, guys, I'm treating them as stories and beliefs to explore, rather than verified explanations. 00:40:45.599 --> 00:40:50.719 Detailed historical claims deserve their own careful resource checking. 00:40:50.880 --> 00:40:52.000 Or source checking. 00:40:52.159 --> 00:40:52.880 Resource checking? 00:40:52.960 --> 00:40:54.320 Why did I say resource? 00:40:54.559 --> 00:40:55.119 Hmm. 00:40:55.679 --> 00:41:00.159 Little slip could be univer uh universe saying something. 00:41:00.400 --> 00:41:07.119 Um yeah, the takeaway isn't quote unquote an unsettling stranger must be an entity. 00:41:07.679 --> 00:41:16.880 It's that we can explore the meaning of a frightening experience without deciding that another person is secretly something non-human. 00:41:17.119 --> 00:41:28.079 If an encounter feels unsafe, I'd put ordinary safety first, create distance, leave the situation, and reach out to someone I trust. 00:41:28.400 --> 00:41:32.239 No spiritual test or confrontation is required. 00:41:32.639 --> 00:41:58.639 So I'd wanted to really specify that because even though I had what looked like after the fact, when you put all the scenarios, all the things together, as possibly being an encounter of the non-human kind, in the moment at the Savoy, I'm having a great conversation and we're interacting, and not once am I saying, I think you're a fucking demon, step away from me. 00:41:58.960 --> 00:42:00.800 No, no, no. 00:42:01.199 --> 00:42:04.000 And same with the dude that showed up at the Joast house. 00:42:04.239 --> 00:42:06.239 He could be just an honest dude. 00:42:06.559 --> 00:42:11.679 So I'm going to have a just a civil one-on-one conversation with him. 00:42:11.920 --> 00:42:14.400 There's there's no need to be hostile. 00:42:14.559 --> 00:42:15.840 There's no need to be rude. 00:42:16.000 --> 00:42:17.360 There's no need for any of that. 00:42:17.599 --> 00:42:19.840 Now the rudeness and the hostility. 00:42:20.000 --> 00:42:23.599 You can save that for when you know for sure what you're dealing with. 00:42:24.400 --> 00:42:25.199 Boundaries. 00:42:25.440 --> 00:42:26.800 Rituals without fear. 00:42:27.519 --> 00:42:28.320 Pardon me. 00:42:28.639 --> 00:42:32.559 So where does that leave protection practices? 00:42:32.880 --> 00:42:44.480 I'd like to shift the emphasis away from battling something unseen, like I just said, and

toward creating a sense of calm, choice, and personal boundaries. 00:42:44.719 --> 00:42:48.639 You don't have to reject your spiritual beliefs to take that approach. 00:42:48.960 --> 00:42:56.960 You can give a ritual meaning without promising that it blocks entities or changes an invisible energy field. 00:42:57.199 --> 00:42:59.599 That's exactly what I did in the basement, guys. 00:42:59.679 --> 00:43:04.480 I didn't go down to fight this demonic being or whatever it was. 00:43:04.639 --> 00:43:06.400 I didn't go down to fight it. 00:43:06.639 --> 00:43:10.480 I went down to acknowledge it and set a boundary. 00:43:10.719 --> 00:43:16.239 And by setting the boundary, I literally just used my words and asked to set the boundary. 00:43:16.480 --> 00:43:22.079 It doesn't mean that I had to take selenite and draw a circle of salt or any of those things. 00:43:22.400 --> 00:43:25.760 Would that have helped if I knew for sure what I was dealing with? 00:43:26.000 --> 00:43:26.880 Probably. 00:43:27.199 --> 00:43:33.599 But it wasn't it's not always 100% necessary in every situation. 00:43:33.840 --> 00:43:37.840 Okay, so first, use gentle gentle. 00:43:38.239 --> 00:43:40.400 Gentral is a new word, guys. 00:43:40.559 --> 00:43:42.480 We're gonna add that to the dictionary. 00:43:42.639 --> 00:43:43.280 Gentral. 00:43:43.599 --> 00:43:45.599 I'm twisting my words now. 00:43:45.920 --> 00:43:48.159 First resource and now gentle. 00:43:48.320 --> 00:43:51.679 Okay, use a gentle visualization. 00:43:52.000 --> 00:43:57.760 The earlier material describes mirrored armor and heavy a heavy curtain. 00:43:58.079 --> 00:44:00.639 I'd soften those images for every Day use. 00:44:01.199 --> 00:44:05.679 So if it feels comfortable, imagine a quiet space around you. 00:44:05.920 --> 00:44:08.079 So just sit where you are. 00:44:08.239 --> 00:44:10.320 If you're driving, please don't do this. 00:44:10.559 --> 00:44:18.559 But sit with where you are, close your eyes, and picture closing a curtain at the end of the day. 00:44:18.719 --> 00:44:20.239 Close your window curtain. 00:44:20.400 --> 00:44:27.280 Not because something is trying to get through, but because you're choosing where your attention goes. 00:44:27.519 --> 00:44:31.519 So you no longer want to look at the outside world and you want to focus inward. 00:44:31.760 --> 00:44:32.079 Okay? 00:44:32.800 --> 00:44:39.039 So I'm just going to pause before I continue this uh bit of material. 00:44:39.280 --> 00:44:43.599 Um when I center myself, a deep breath. 00:44:43.760 --> 00:44:46.320 I could be in the middle of Walmart and I'll deep breath. 00:44:46.480 --> 00:44:47.599 I'll tell you that. 00:44:47.840 --> 00:44:57.119 Especially with the amount of energy this time of year coming into the holiday season, oh you bet I'll be breathing deep every time I step inside that fucking store. 00:44:57.360 --> 00:44:58.159 Anyway. 00:44:58.880 --> 00:45:00.960 But you deep breath, right? 00:45:01.519 --> 00:45:05.039 And I think normal people say breathe deep. 00:45:05.199 --> 00:45:06.159 I deep breath. 00:45:06.320 --> 00:45:06.960 Anyway. 00:45:07.280 --> 00:45:13.199 Then I do picture myself in a place and I uh yawn. 00:45:13.679 --> 00:45:15.280 I am so sorry for yawning. 00:45:15.679 --> 00:45:18.400 Always I I need to do something about it. 00:45:18.800 --> 00:45:21.039 It's not you, it's me, I promise. 00:45:21.519 --> 00:45:24.960 But I picture something that makes me feel safe. 00:45:25.119 --> 00:45:30.559 Whether that's my room, my home, my vehicle, just inside my own mind. 00:45:30.719 --> 00:45:33.519 Uh sometimes that's not the best place to be. 00:45:33.840 --> 00:45:38.159 But I just pr picture something I I feel safe around. 00:45:38.400 --> 00:45:40.880 Maybe it's my dogs, hugging my dogs. 00:45:41.119 --> 00:45:46.800 And that becomes my safe space, my boundary, my little bubble, so to speak. 00:45:47.039 --> 00:45:59.199 When I need the heavier stuff, the heavy curtain, or the mirrored armor, it'd be like the the um armored knight, a knight in shining armor. 00:45:59.440 --> 00:46:01.360 Um, I'll put that on. 00:46:01.599 --> 00:46:02.800 I'll put that on. 00:46:03.119 --> 00:46:14.079 So for uh very quiet, everyday use, more subtle, more soft, you might say, for now, I'm setting this aside. 00:46:14.320 --> 00:46:15.840 I'm allowed to rest. 00:46:16.159 --> 00:46:17.679 And that's that's it. 00:46:17.920 --> 00:46:19.599 You literally just set a boundary. 00:46:19.679 --> 00:46:24.719 You close the curtain on that window, and you said, for now, I'm setting this aside. 00:46:24.880 --> 00:46:26.400 I'm allowed to rest. 00:46:26.559 --> 00:46:31.360 Y'all should do that even if you're not trying to set a boundary for any entities out there. 00:46:31.599 --> 00:46:33.119 You should do that for yourself. 00:46:33.360 --> 00:46:36.800 Your kids are running around you say, I'm setting you aside. 00:46:36.960 --> 00:46:38.159 I need to rest. 00:46:39.039 --> 00:46:41.360 Okay, I know I don't live in reality, okay? 00:46:41.519 --> 00:46:43.119 I don't have kids, but whatever. 00:46:43.199 --> 00:46:44.239 You get my drift. 00:46:44.480 --> 00:46:49.360 If the image makes you more watchful or afraid, leave it out. 00:46:49.599 --> 00:46:55.119 The practice is meant to feel supportive, not like another responsibility. 00:46:55.519 --> 00:47:05.599 And I hope I come across in all my episodes, regardless of if I'm reading a Reddit story or talking about uh an idea like this. 00:47:05.840 --> 00:47:27.519 I hope I come across in telling you that um you can literally practice anything spiritual, spirit talking to spirits, witchcraft, dealing with demons, anything spirituality-wise, you can practice it without meaning to add shit to your daily routine. 00:47:27.840 --> 00:47:29.119 You literally can. 00:47:29.440 --> 00:47:30.400 Trust me. 00:47:30.880 --> 00:47:32.960 I just finished a yawn, I'm sorry. 00:47:33.280 --> 00:47:34.159 Trust

me. 00:47:34.559 --> 00:47:40.159 It is something you can add to your daily without adding something to your daily. 00:47:40.480 --> 00:47:42.800 I am so fucking busy, guys. 00:47:43.039 --> 00:47:54.079 I got two companies, this podcast, running four different social medias, like four accounts on each social media platform, and I work full-time. 00:47:54.239 --> 00:47:55.679 Plus, I ghost hunt. 00:47:56.000 --> 00:48:04.559 So where the hell do I have time to add shit to my daily routine in visualization, in setting boundaries, in doing rituals? 00:48:04.800 --> 00:48:15.440 And as a witch, you think, oh yeah, you're gonna prior you're you're not a true witch if you don't prioritize doing these this shit, going to your altars, doing rituals, doing this or that. 00:48:15.679 --> 00:48:16.320 You know what? 00:48:16.480 --> 00:48:18.719 Again, I'm gonna bring it back to what I said before. 00:48:19.039 --> 00:48:22.400 People say and dictate to you how you must do things. 00:48:22.559 --> 00:48:23.280 Fuck you. 00:48:23.519 --> 00:48:25.199 You you don't have to, guys. 00:48:25.280 --> 00:48:33.760 You don't have to s add things to your daily routine to really accomplish things in your spiritual journey. 00:48:34.000 --> 00:48:35.280 It just is. 00:48:35.760 --> 00:48:42.960 You just learn different techniques and use your intuition to what feels best for you in that moment. 00:48:43.280 --> 00:48:47.679 And this is something extremely easy that you can do in a moment. 00:48:47.840 --> 00:48:53.840 You're taking a shower, you're feeling like the world is overwhelming. 00:48:54.320 --> 00:48:55.360 Set your boundary. 00:48:55.599 --> 00:48:57.920 Take a deep breath, maybe not under the water. 00:48:58.000 --> 00:48:59.199 You don't want drowned. 00:48:59.360 --> 00:49:05.679 Take a deep breath, let it out slowly while saying, for now, I'm setting this aside. 00:49:06.000 --> 00:49:07.039 I'm allowed to rest. 00:49:07.760 --> 00:49:13.039 So number two is keep physical rituals simple. 00:49:13.360 --> 00:49:21.039 Salt, water, head coverings, and stones appear in the original protection practices. 00:49:21.360 --> 00:49:31.920 If any of those symbols are meaningful to you, you can treat them as reminders of an intention, not a guarantee of supernatural protection. 00:49:32.159 --> 00:49:36.239 A scarf may might remind you to take a quiet moment. 00:49:36.719 --> 00:49:40.079 A stone might remind you to pause. 00:49:40.320 --> 00:49:44.239 A simple tidying routine might mark the end of a day. 00:49:44.480 --> 00:49:51.840 I'd leave out the herbal sprays, salt barriers, and freezing cold water instructions from this routine. 00:49:52.079 --> 00:49:56.800 You don't need an elaborate ritual to give yourself permission to stop. 00:49:57.039 --> 00:49:59.360 I couldn't have said it better myself. 00:50:00.159 --> 00:50:01.360 I'm proud of me. 00:50:01.679 --> 00:50:04.000 That was actually really, really profound. 00:50:04.159 --> 00:50:05.599 Exactly what I just said though, right? 00:50:05.679 --> 00:50:07.119 But a little bit more concise. 00:50:07.440 --> 00:50:10.639 Third, let prayer be a source of comfort. 00:50:10.960 --> 00:50:16.320 So when I say the word prayer, being a peg in which I still pray. 00:50:16.480 --> 00:50:20.400 I mean, I was brought up Catholic, so there's that. 00:50:20.719 --> 00:50:23.599 But prayer is just a word. 00:50:24.079 --> 00:50:25.599 It's just a word. 00:50:25.920 --> 00:50:26.239 Okay? 00:50:26.719 --> 00:50:28.800 You can pray in many different forms. 00:50:28.960 --> 00:50:46.880 You can have um mantras, you can do manifestation rituals, you can pray to a Lord, you can you can worship a god or a goddess, you can write in a journal, you whatever it is for you, whatever prayer looks like for you. 00:50:47.119 --> 00:50:55.039 If prayer is part of your faith, you may pray for peace, clarity, or support to make grounded choices. 00:50:55.280 --> 00:51:02.000 Some people use the language of Archangel Michael, ancestors, or spirit guides. 00:51:02.159 --> 00:51:08.079 You can keep that language that fits your beliefs without turning the practice into a battle. 00:51:08.400 --> 00:51:13.599 Rather than a banishment command, try a statement about your own boundary. 00:51:13.760 --> 00:51:19.840 I'm not, and this is a uh quote unquote, I'm not giving this my attention right now. 00:51:20.000 --> 00:51:22.559 I'm choosing to return to what's around me. 00:51:22.880 --> 00:51:30.719 For me, I choose to call on my guides, spirit family, spirit guides, please surround me. 00:51:30.960 --> 00:51:36.000 I do call on Archangel Michael because he is part of my spirit family. 00:51:36.159 --> 00:51:37.679 So I will call on him as well. 00:51:37.840 --> 00:51:39.360 I will call on my ancestors. 00:51:39.440 --> 00:51:41.599 So all of that does fit for me. 00:51:41.840 --> 00:51:49.280 Um, and when I'm choosing my own piece, I do set my boundaries. 00:51:49.920 --> 00:51:51.440 That's the strongest thing. 00:51:51.599 --> 00:52:03.039 I think it will continue to be a repetitive statement I make throughout the course of my life, throughout this podcast, in in episodes to come. 00:52:03.280 --> 00:52:09.840 Boundaries are important for your personal life, for your romantic life, for your spiritual life. 00:52:10.000 --> 00:52:10.960 They're important. 00:52:11.360 --> 00:52:12.880 Oh, and for business too. 00:52:13.039 --> 00:52:14.559 Don't let's not forget about business. 00:52:14.719 --> 00:52:18.000 Set your work boundaries when it's five o'clock, clock out. 00:52:18.159 --> 00:52:20.079 Nobody stays past that time, right? 00:52:20.320 --> 00:52:23.199 Y'all don't work past your quitting hour, do you? 00:52:23.519 --> 00:52:24.480 Please don't. 00:52:24.719 --> 00:52:26.480 Uh okay, tangent coming. 00:52:26.719 --> 00:52:36.239 Tangent coming! For your personal peace, in your spiritual well-being being, in your mental well-being, in your physical well-being, maybe not

in your financial well-being. 00:52:36.719 --> 00:52:39.280 Don't don't ever get financial advice from me. 00:52:39.599 --> 00:52:51.599 Anyway, when it comes to work, guys, unless you own, own, not work for, manage, or are a high representative. 00:52:51.920 --> 00:52:57.119 Unless you own your own company, you're just a number. 00:52:57.360 --> 00:52:58.880 You can be replaced. 00:52:59.119 --> 00:53:03.039 So when it's the end of the day, flip the bird and walk away. 00:53:03.280 --> 00:53:05.599 Literally, like clock out. 00:53:05.920 --> 00:53:06.480 See ya. 00:53:06.800 --> 00:53:08.400 Unless you're paying me to be here. 00:53:08.639 --> 00:53:09.440 Bye-bye. 00:53:09.840 --> 00:53:14.480 I mean, unless you volunteer places, that's another that's another thing. 00:53:14.639 --> 00:53:18.239 I'm strictly talking about being paid to be there. 00:53:18.480 --> 00:53:26.079 You get paid for the hour on a salary for a specific amount of hours in a contract. 00:53:26.320 --> 00:53:28.000 After that, see ya. 00:53:28.400 --> 00:53:31.840 Unless they're willing to pay you OT overtime. 00:53:32.000 --> 00:53:37.679 Uh overtime in lieu, whatever your your agreement is, unless that is in written agreement. 00:53:38.000 --> 00:53:41.519 And you see the the bills on the table. 00:53:41.760 --> 00:53:43.280 Yeah, go away. 00:53:44.000 --> 00:53:46.800 Your time is you don't owe it to them. 00:53:47.039 --> 00:53:47.360 Okay. 00:53:47.920 --> 00:53:49.840 So that's one thing you can take off the table. 00:53:50.000 --> 00:53:54.000 And I know in Canada, that's a that's a done deal. 00:53:54.079 --> 00:53:56.400 Like that's that is the way it is. 00:53:56.559 --> 00:53:58.320 Unless I'm being paid, I'm out. 00:53:58.639 --> 00:54:00.639 And that's our labor laws. 00:54:00.880 --> 00:54:03.360 You know, like that's the labor law. 00:54:03.599 --> 00:54:05.440 You don't pay me, I don't work. 00:54:05.760 --> 00:54:10.960 And um, I don't know what it's like in other countries because I've never worked in another country. 00:54:11.280 --> 00:54:15.599 So if it's different for you guys, I really hate that for you. 00:54:17.760 --> 00:54:20.800 Maybe Canada has something really good here. 00:54:20.960 --> 00:54:41.440 I know certain countries, there are certain countries out there that we should adopt practices by, like the four-day work week and uh minimum or a maximum six-hour work day, um, mid mid-day cake break or or nap break or whatever it is in certain countries. 00:54:41.679 --> 00:54:42.400 You know what? 00:54:42.639 --> 00:54:43.920 That's another tangent. 00:54:44.159 --> 00:54:47.199 Work that we're not talking about that today, right? 00:54:47.280 --> 00:54:48.559 Let's let's get off that. 00:54:48.719 --> 00:54:55.760 Because I can go on and on and on about the right to rest, work life balance, all that stuff. 00:54:55.920 --> 00:54:57.280 Let's return to this. 00:54:57.440 --> 00:54:58.719 This is a better topic. 00:54:58.960 --> 00:55:02.559 Fourth, number four, return to ordinary life. 00:55:02.800 --> 00:55:14.719 So for me, the final step would be something simple, like feel my feet on the floor, look around the room, drink some water, or check in with someone I trust. 00:55:14.960 --> 00:55:18.960 That's to make sure that I'm spiritually, not somewhere else. 00:55:19.199 --> 00:55:22.719 I wouldn't describe that as removing an attachment. 00:55:22.880 --> 00:55:26.719 I'd describe it as bringing my attention back to the present. 00:55:26.880 --> 00:55:31.280 That's a really good practice even for just mental clarity. 00:55:31.599 --> 00:55:39.039 And if an experience becomes frightening, persistent, or disruptive, I'd reach out to a qualified health professional. 00:55:39.280 --> 00:55:42.960 Seeking support doesn't require abandoning spiritual beliefs. 00:55:43.199 --> 00:55:48.000 And a ritual doesn't have to carry the whole weight of helping us feel safe. 00:55:48.320 --> 00:55:50.719 So please keep that in mind, guys. 00:55:50.880 --> 00:56:06.000 If you feel unsafe, if you feel mentally unwell, if you feel attacked in any way, there are health professionals out there, there's police, there's all these resources that we can we can go towards to feel safe. 00:56:06.320 --> 00:56:21.599 I have been to a psychiatrist, I have taken grief counseling, I have gone to doctors over my mental state when I didn't feel well to get myself to a well mental state. 00:56:21.840 --> 00:56:23.519 I talk to my friends. 00:56:23.679 --> 00:56:25.039 Um, all of these things. 00:56:25.199 --> 00:56:31.199 Like I literally do everything possible to keep my mental state as healthy as possible. 00:56:31.519 --> 00:56:32.159 Is it? 00:56:32.559 --> 00:56:33.920 Some days, yes. 00:56:34.159 --> 00:56:36.239 Some days, fuck no. 00:56:37.119 --> 00:56:41.519 Of course I'm gonna have like ups and downs like every other human out there. 00:56:41.760 --> 00:56:45.679 But what I do is I know this and I realize it. 00:56:45.840 --> 00:57:03.760 And if I can't center myself and bring myself back to the present and and deep breaths to really bring myself back to where I feel safe and where I feel like I can take on the world again, then I get help. 00:57:04.079 --> 00:57:04.960 Just that easy. 00:57:05.199 --> 00:57:07.440 But it took me a long time to realize that. 00:57:07.679 --> 00:57:13.840 So I'm not saying you you just realize that overnight and you're like, yeah, okay, I I got that. 00:57:14.159 --> 00:57:21.920 Um we can we can just know that yeah, when I'm not feeling so safe, I just yeah, flip a switch and go get help. 00:57:22.079 --> 00:57:29.119 It's hard when you're in the depths of despair, when you're emotionally feeling like you can't go on. 00:57:29.280 --> 00:57:32.000 That's hard, but that again is another topic. 00:57:32.239 --> 00:57:37.360 Please let me know if you want me to touch on that, because that is part of your spiritual development as well. 00:57:37.679 --> 00:57:38.000 Okay. 00:57:38.880 --> 00:57:42.159 Curiosity with a steady footing. 00:57:42.320 --> 00:57:46.000 If there's one thing I'd like to leave you with, it's this. 00:57:46.239 --> 00:57:52.400 You can honor the meaning of an experience without needing an immediate explanation. 00:57:52.719 --> 00:57:58.800 You can be interested in the veil thinning without organizing your life around a calendar. 00:57:58.960 --> 00:58:05.840 You can explore mediumship as a belief without treating every ex impression as a message. 00:58:06.159 --> 00:58:14.320 And you can use a comforting ritual without assuming there's something you need to fight. 00:58:14.719 --> 00:58:24.960 Maybe the question to carry with you is, does the way I'm interpreting this help me feel more present or more afraid? 00:58:25.199 --> 00:58:28.400 If it brings more fear, it's okay to step back. 00:58:28.559 --> 00:58:33.679 You're allowed to rest, change your mind, and ask for support. 00:58:34.159 --> 00:58:37.519 So guys, thank you for spending your time with me today. 00:58:37.760 --> 00:58:50.719 Whenever you stand, wherever you stand on the idea of the veil, I hope this conversation leaves you with room for curiosity and permission to keep your feet on the ground. 00:58:50.960 --> 00:58:54.639 And until next week, guys, I hope you do one thing. 00:58:54.960 --> 00:58:58.880 Remember, the veil may always be thin. 00:58:59.119 --> 00:59:02.320 You may always be able to connect to the other side. 00:59:02.480 --> 00:59:06.639 You may always have an encounter, but always do it. 00:59:07.360 --> 00:59:08.719 And take care.