Full Transcript for When Clean Eating Backfires: How Root Cause Healing Can Wreck Your Hormones

actually not working, you build the foundation so that you can go back to your life, so that food can be food again, so that grocery shopping doesn't take 90 minutes, so that the brain space you've been spending on is this the right thing to eat gets returned to you and you get to use it for the things that actually matter, like your kids, your work, your relationships, your creative life, your sleep, your peace. 00:04:33.279 --> 00:04:42.399 If you've been doing this for two, three, five years and you have more anxiety about food and your body now than when you started, you have not healed. 00:04:42.639 --> 00:04:45.439 You have substituted one kind of suffering for another. 00:04:45.600 --> 00:04:50.720 And that suffering doesn't get named because on the outside, it looks like you're doing everything right. 00:04:50.879 --> 00:04:56.079 You're the woman with the green smoothies, you're the one who reads labels, you're the success story. 00:04:56.319 --> 00:05:00.240 Nobody is going to interrupt that and say, Hey, are you okay? 00:05:00.639 --> 00:05:09.439 Because to everyone watching, or to most people watching, I can spot this a mile away, but to everyone else watching, you look better than okay. 00:05:09.680 --> 00:05:11.680 But your body knows, and you know. 00:05:11.920 --> 00:05:21.920 Before we get into what's happening in this imaginary client's body, I want to say something about how we got here, because none of this is anyone's fault individually. 00:05:22.160 --> 00:05:26.000 The wellness internet is engineered to reward extremes. 00:05:26.240 --> 00:05:29.920 Black and white messaging performs better than nuance every single time. 00:05:30.240 --> 00:05:33.120 This food will kill you gets a million views. 00:05:33.360 --> 00:05:39.439 And when someone like myself says it depends on context and overall pattern, that maybe gets a few hundred. 00:05:39.600 --> 00:05:44.879 So the loudest voices in the space are the ones making the most absolute claims. 00:05:45.120 --> 00:06:02.000 And after a few years of consuming that content, especially when conventional medicine has already failed you, your brain naturally starts to build a model of food and wellness where everything is either dangerous or safe, either healing or harming, either pure or contaminated. 00:06:02.160 --> 00:06:02.800 You see the point? 00:06:02.959 --> 00:06:04.800 It's exhausting to live in that model. 00:06:04.959 --> 00:06:06.079 I know you feel it. 00:06:06.240 --> 00:06:11.920 And it's also weirdly comforting because at least it feels like control, right? 00:06:12.079 --> 00:06:15.279 If everything is black or white, you always know what to do. 00:06:15.439 --> 00:06:16.959 And we like certainty. 00:06:17.120 --> 00:06:18.639 Humans like certainty. 00:06:18.800 --> 00:06:20.879 You just stay on the right side of the line. 00:06:21.040 --> 00:06:29.839 The gray, which is where I live and where the actual answer is, feels harder because gray requires you to make judgments. 00:06:30.160 --> 00:06:32.560 Gray requires you to trust yourself. 00:06:32.879 --> 00:06:36.240 Gray requires you to be okay with not being certain. 00:06:36.399 --> 00:06:38.639 The wellness internet does not sell gray. 00:06:38.800 --> 00:06:39.839 It sells certainty. 00:06:40.000 --> 00:06:49.759 And women who are tired, sick, and dismissed by their doctors are exquisitely vulnerable to certainty because certainty is the one thing the medical system never gave them. 00:06:50.000 --> 00:06:55.279 So we ended up here with a generation of high-functioning women who were trying to heal. 00:06:55.600 --> 00:07:07.519 I would say several generations of high-functioning women who are trying to heal and accidentally train themselves into a low-grade eating disorder that nobody is calling an eating disorder because the food is organic, right? 00:07:07.680 --> 00:07:17.680 And a hyper obsession with their body with tons of supplements and different protocols and constantly jumping from one solution to the next, but calling it health. 00:07:18.000 --> 00:07:23.759 So let me tell you what I see in the labs when this woman finally lands in my inbox. 00:07:23.920 --> 00:07:24.639 Thank goodness. 00:07:24.800 --> 00:07:28.399 Happy to see you there in my DMs or in my email, however, you got there. 00:07:28.639 --> 00:07:31.360 I love when I finally connect with this woman. 00:07:31.519 --> 00:07:33.040 Her thyroid is stressed. 00:07:33.199 --> 00:07:39.920 Her TSH is creeping up, but it's still most of the time in the conventional, quote, normal range. 00:07:40.079 --> 00:07:42.240 So her doctor hasn't done anything yet. 00:07:42.480 --> 00:07:53.600 When I look deeper at the actual conversion of T4 to active T3, I almost always see poor conversion, which tells me her liver is overloaded because that's where most of that conversion happens. 00:07:53.759 --> 00:08:01.600 Her body has been on high alert for so long that the systems responsible for keeping her energy and metabolism running are running on fumes. 00:08:01.759 --> 00:08:02.319 No surprise. 00:08:02.560 --> 00:08:05.920 Tie into her cortisol that is also dysregulated. 00:08:06.079 --> 00:08:08.560 Usually I see a tired and wired pattern. 00:08:08.720 --> 00:08:15.279 She's exhausted in the morning and has a weird burst at night, can't stay asleep when she should be sleeping. 00:08:15.519 --> 00:08:25.040 Some of these women are further along into actual adrenal exhaustion with cortisol patterns that are more flat across the board, and there's no juice left. 00:08:25.120 --> 00:08:26.240 I have seen both. 00:08:26.480 --> 00:08:31.439 The later and farther you get into this pattern, the longer it is going to take to recover from. 00:08:31.519 --> 00:08:36.639 But I have helped clients who are much closer to the adrenal exhaustion side, and it is possible. 00:08:36.799 --> 00:08:56.080 Her minerals on her hair tissue mineral analysis, one of my favorite functional labs to run, almost

always shows what we call four lows or a too high, too low pattern, meaning the raw materials her body needs to make hormones, to detoxify, to produce energy, to fire neurons, are simply not on board. 00:08:56.240 --> 00:09:03.600 And this is a woman who has likely looked at her diet many times and probably has improved it more than the standard American diet, right? 00:09:03.759 --> 00:09:09.600 I'm usually not getting women these days with a total standard American diet and wondering why they're not feeling well. 00:09:09.840 --> 00:09:17.840 She doesn't have the basic building blocks because she's been eating the same five things for two years and they don't contain everything her body needs. 00:09:18.000 --> 00:09:30.639 Now, I'm exaggerating a little bit with the five things, but I guarantee right now, if you go look at like this past week's meals, this past month's meals, you're probably rotating between the same few things. 00:09:30.879 --> 00:09:39.440 Diversity is not something that we do well without more intention because there is so much fear around so many different foods. 00:09:39.679 --> 00:09:45.840 Continuing on, her organic acids test, this one looks at so many different markers. 00:09:46.000 --> 00:09:48.080 It's my second favorite functional medicine lab. 00:09:48.240 --> 00:09:53.039 It almost always shows some kind of candida or bacterial overgrowth in her gut. 00:09:53.279 --> 00:09:59.519 Mitochondrial markers indicating low cellular energy production, inadequate B vitamins and vitamin C. 00:09:59.759 --> 00:10:05.279 And this is the one that really tells the story here: ketosis markers that are off. 00:10:05.440 --> 00:10:20.320 Either because she's eating so inconsistently that her body is bouncing in and out of using fat for fuel, or because her fat intake is so disproportionately high relative to everything else that she's accidentally semi-ketogenic without meaning to be. 00:10:20.480 --> 00:10:24.639 And this is where, like, we had the low fat craze, right, in the 90s. 00:10:24.799 --> 00:10:28.559 Now we've got the low carb craze that just will not go away. 00:10:28.720 --> 00:10:30.639 And this is not a good place to be, women. 00:10:30.799 --> 00:10:36.639 Ketosis is not a place for women to be operating in on a regular basis during the day. 00:10:36.879 --> 00:10:42.480 I utilize fasting with my clients, and it is almost exclusively fasting overnight. 00:10:42.639 --> 00:10:48.320 That is your fasting window because that is when our body is prepared to do that so it can focus on other things. 00:10:48.480 --> 00:10:50.720 But that is an episode for another day. 00:10:50.960 --> 00:10:52.399 So we don't want to be in this place. 00:10:52.480 --> 00:11:02.080 This is because women are eating really inconsistently, not eating with proper meal spacing throughout the day, skipping meals in the middle of the day, lunchtime, it's too busy, skipping it entirely. 00:11:02.320 --> 00:11:16.159 Put all of this together, and

you have a woman whose body is functionally in famine, not because she's anorexic, because she's been so careful, so restrictive, so afraid of the wrong food that her body has nothing left to work with. 00:11:16.320 --> 00:11:18.240 And that's just the food side of things. 00:11:18.320 --> 00:11:23.279 We haven't even talked about stress or any of the other things that then also impact this system. 00:11:23.440 --> 00:11:25.759 This is just if we look at the diet piece of it. 00:11:25.840 --> 00:11:30.480 And she's been told that this is what health looks like, that this should be so restrictive. 00:11:30.639 --> 00:11:31.919 That's how we get to better health. 00:11:32.080 --> 00:11:32.960 It's bullshit, right? 00:11:33.039 --> 00:11:33.679 That's bullshit. 00:11:33.759 --> 00:11:35.440 You're like, oh God, maybe that's me. 00:11:35.600 --> 00:11:42.559 The hardest part of this, and this is the part I'm most fired up about, is that she thinks she's winning on this front. 00:11:42.720 --> 00:11:44.799 And I am not here to knock you down. 00:11:44.960 --> 00:11:47.519 Again, I do not think that this is your fault. 00:11:47.679 --> 00:11:50.159 You are not trained with this information. 00:11:50.399 --> 00:11:57.840 You are, you have been bombarded with this marketing messaging over the internet for years, for years and years and years. 00:11:58.080 --> 00:12:00.559 So you think you've got your diet locked down. 00:12:00.720 --> 00:12:06.639 You think that this is the part that you're actually doing well and you must be missing something somewhere else. 00:12:06.799 --> 00:12:18.080 You think the fact that you don't eat gluten and you don't drink alcohol and you don't touch seed oils and you only eat organic and you avoid the quote bad foods means that you're ahead of every other woman your age. 00:12:18.320 --> 00:12:20.799 And you know I have feelings about some of those foods on that list. 00:12:20.879 --> 00:12:22.399 Like I don't give a shit about seed oils. 00:12:22.559 --> 00:12:24.480 Alcohol, yeah, I can agree with you on that one. 00:12:24.559 --> 00:12:26.559 And that's, again, another episode, another day. 00:12:26.720 --> 00:12:29.039 Gluten, I don't think that's a problem for everyone. 00:12:29.200 --> 00:12:33.200 And yet, these are the things that we are told make such a difference in our health. 00:12:33.360 --> 00:12:36.480 But when you do it, are you feeling any better? 00:12:36.720 --> 00:12:37.759 You're not, right? 00:12:37.840 --> 00:12:38.240 You're not. 00:12:38.399 --> 00:12:41.840 This client thinks her tiredness is just because she's worked hard. 00:12:42.000 --> 00:12:44.799 She thinks her cycle is irregular because of perimenopause. 00:12:44.879 --> 00:12:48.559 She thinks her anxiety is just personality and stress. 00:12:48.879 --> 00:13:00.960 She has been so successfully sold the idea that more restriction equals more health, that she cannot see what her own body is telling her because the loudest people in her ear

have a financial incentive to keep her afraid. 00:13:01.200 --> 00:13:13.200 The supplement companies, the detox programs, the influencer with the affiliate code affiliate code, the next protocol, the next elimination diet, the next thing to add to the list of foods she's afraid of. 00:13:13.440 --> 00:13:16.960 And I know that this could easily put me in that category, right? 00:13:17.120 --> 00:13:21.360 I do work and sell things that fall into these categories as well. 00:13:21.440 --> 00:13:32.639 And so I get why it is so confusing to try to tell someone like myself who has a more balanced approach and who really does operate with the science in mind at all times. 00:13:32.879 --> 00:13:39.600 How do you tell the difference between someone like me when you come across me on the internet and someone else who's telling you to avoid seed oils? 00:13:39.679 --> 00:13:41.120 Like, how do you know who's right? 00:13:41.279 --> 00:13:42.399 And I think that just takes time. 00:13:42.559 --> 00:13:50.799 I think it just takes listening to multiple of us and takes time to discern some information and then like have a conversation with me. 00:13:50.960 --> 00:14:11.759 I guarantee, I mean, that's why I started this podcast up again, because when you hear longer form content from any one of these people and you hear how they talk and what they talk about and how they teach, I think that's a telltale sign on whether or not they're blowing smoke or whether or not they really have data to support the foundation that they are teaching and what they're recommending and what they're doing. 00:14:12.000 --> 00:14:22.559 Lots of people can scream at you from a grocery store aisle and be completely uneducated, but sound very convincing because they know marketing, not because they know nutrition science. 00:14:23.279 --> 00:14:26.639 There is a quieter voice that this client can't hear. 00:14:26.960 --> 00:14:40.399 The one that's been gently saying, please eat a sandwich, or please eat something that you enjoy, because that voice doesn't have a podcast, doesn't have a megaphone, doesn't have the internet to be screaming loudly. 00:14:40.639 --> 00:14:43.679 So here's the part that breaks my heart a little a lot. 00:14:44.320 --> 00:14:48.799 When this woman becomes my client, the behaviors are usually pretty fixable. 00:14:48.960 --> 00:15:03.039 She'll add the foods back, she'll eat the carbs, she'll start eating more variety, her labs will start moving, her cycle starts to return, her energy comes back, the data shows up, but the anxiety doesn't go away that fast. 00:15:03.440 --> 00:15:06.159 She'll eat the bread and feel her stomach clench. 00:15:06.320 --> 00:15:09.440 She'll add the fruit back to her breakfast and lie awake at 2 a.m. 00:15:09.600 --> 00:15:11.039 wondering if I'm wrong. 00:15:11.279 --> 00:15:17.039 She'll see another video on Instagram telling her something I said is dangerous, and she'll send me a screenshot at 11 p.m. 00:15:17.279 -->

00:15:18.559 asking if she should be worried. 00:15:18.720 --> 00:15:26.159 We will have just had a conversation about why she shouldn't be worried, and the next loud voice on the internet will undo it in three seconds. 00:15:26.320 --> 00:15:28.639 And again, this is not her fault. 00:15:28.799 --> 00:15:29.440 I get it. 00:15:29.600 --> 00:15:36.159 And that's why I am so grateful when this client does start working with me, because she can send me that screenshot. 00:15:36.320 --> 00:15:38.320 She can look to me for reassurance. 00:15:38.480 --> 00:15:39.440 This is the work. 00:15:39.600 --> 00:15:42.799 And this is why my long-term clients are long-term. 00:15:42.960 --> 00:15:54.000 Not because the plan is complicated, not because there's some ongoing protocol I'm milking them on, but because the behaviors are easier to change than the wiring underneath the behaviors. 00:15:54.159 --> 00:16:14.559 And the wiring takes time and reassurance and her body proving over and over again that it's safe, that she can eat the bread and her body holds, that she can eat at a restaurant with seed oils and her sleep is fine, that she can take the rest day and not gain 10 pounds, that she can stop the supplement for a month and not collapse. 00:16:14.879 --> 00:16:20.399 That repeated experience of safety in her own body is what eventually rewires it. 00:16:20.480 --> 00:16:22.000 And that only comes with time. 00:16:22.159 --> 00:16:23.919 There is no shortcut for it. 00:16:24.080 --> 00:16:26.000 It takes as long as it takes. 00:16:26.240 --> 00:16:33.759 My job is to keep providing the data and the reassurance and the steady, unflinching voice that says, you're going to be okay. 00:16:34.000 --> 00:16:36.399 Your body is doing what it's supposed to do. 00:16:36.559 --> 00:16:42.080 You can trust this over and over again until her nervous system finally believes me. 00:16:42.240 --> 00:16:49.600 This is why it is so powerful to have a coach in your corner and a practitioner in your corner who understands human behavior. 00:16:49.759 --> 00:17:03.919 This is where my background in psychology, my two degrees in psychology, really changes our clients' ability to achieve long-term success, to not have to jump to another solution after working with myself and my team. 00:17:04.079 --> 00:17:05.200 It's slow work. 00:17:05.359 --> 00:17:07.119 It's emotional work for sure. 00:17:07.279 --> 00:17:09.759 It is one of the most rewarding things that I do, though. 00:17:09.839 --> 00:17:18.960 And I am absolutely happy to be a broken record on repeat for my clients to remind them of the things that they need every single day if I have to. 00:17:19.119 --> 00:17:21.839 I want to come back to something I said earlier because it matters. 00:17:22.079 --> 00:17:25.200 The gray is harder to live in than the black or white. 00:17:25.359 --> 00:17:26.160 It really is. 00:17:26.319 --> 00:17:30.000 Black or white feels safe because the rules are clear. 00:17:30.160 --> 00:17:32.559 The gray asks you to use judgment. 00:17:32.640 --> 00:17:35.440 The gray asks you to trust yourself, like I said earlier. 00:17:35.599 --> 00:17:45.920 The gray asks you to look at the whole picture, your sleep, your stress, your phase of life, your specific labs, your real situation, and you have to make a call. 00:17:46.240 --> 00:17:49.359 But the gray is also where life actually happens. 00:17:49.519 --> 00:17:54.000 The gray is where you can have the sourdough at your friend's house and not lose your mind about it. 00:17:54.240 --> 00:18:02.000 The gray is where you eat the seed oil and the restaurant meal, and your body handles it just fine because it has the raw materials it needs to do that. 00:18:02.240 --> 00:18:08.799 The gray is where you have a cycle that responds to your life instead of being held in place by extreme rigidity. 00:18:09.039 --> 00:18:17.119 The gray is where you have a body that can flex, that handles stress and travel and a busy week and a few drinks at a wedding without falling apart. 00:18:17.279 --> 00:18:25.920 The gray is the goal, not the rigid version, not the version where you control everything you eat because controlling food is the one thing you can control. 00:18:26.240 --> 00:18:32.319 The gray is where your body is robust enough to handle real life and you are free enough to live it. 00:18:32.559 --> 00:18:33.920 I know that's harder. 00:18:34.079 --> 00:18:36.160 I know that's scarier in the short term. 00:18:36.400 --> 00:18:43.200 I know it would be easier if I just gave you a list of forbidden foods and wrote you a meal plan and you stayed inside the lines. 00:18:43.359 --> 00:18:45.920 Plenty of practitioners will give you that list. 00:18:46.079 --> 00:18:53.680 They will give you the certainty and they will not give you your life back because that list isn't actually what's wrong with you. 00:18:53.920 --> 00:18:54.240 Okay? 00:18:54.640 --> 00:19:16.640 So if you heard yourself in any of this, if the woman I described at the top of this episode sounded a little too familiar, if your grocery list has been shrinking for years, if you feel a flicker of fear when someone offers you something you didn't plan to eat, if you've quietly wondered whether all of this is helping or whether it might secretly be hurting you, I want you to hear me. 00:19:16.960 --> 00:19:18.079 You are not alone. 00:19:18.240 --> 00:19:19.920 You didn't do this to yourself. 00:19:20.160 --> 00:19:26.880 You are a smart, capable woman who took the message you were given, which is like, take charge of your health, right? 00:19:27.039 --> 00:19:30.400 And you tried to do it perfectly because that's what we do, right? 00:19:30.720 --> 00:19:32.480 We are high achievers. 00:19:33.279 --> 00:19:36.400 We want to do this right, and we are gonna go do the damn thing. 00:19:36.559 --> 00:19:39.839 We're not waiting for anybody else to give us permission, right? 00:19:39.920 --> 00:19:45.119 The wellness industry handed

you the wrong tools, though, and didn't tell you when to put them down. 00:19:45.359 --> 00:19:46.799 That's not your failure. 00:19:46.960 --> 00:19:49.359 That's the system you were operating in. 00:19:49.599 --> 00:19:51.920 And the way out is not another elimination. 00:19:52.079 --> 00:19:53.359 It's not another protocol. 00:19:53.440 --> 00:19:55.839 It's not figuring out the next thing to remove. 00:19:56.079 --> 00:20:06.400 The way out is slowly with support, with data, with someone who will keep telling you you're going to be okay until your body finally agrees, adding things back. 00:20:06.559 --> 00:20:07.839 We have to add things back. 00:20:08.000 --> 00:20:10.000 Now, do I have elimination protocols? 00:20:10.160 --> 00:20:10.799 Absolutely. 00:20:10.960 --> 00:20:12.400 They are so short term, though. 00:20:12.559 --> 00:20:13.680 Absolutely so short term. 00:20:13.759 --> 00:20:17.440 And I'm so clear with my clients that this is not how we are eating long term. 00:20:17.680 --> 00:20:22.880 This is specifically really only comes into play with certain gut pathogens that I find on testing. 00:20:23.039 --> 00:20:24.880 We're going to be eating more, not less. 00:20:25.039 --> 00:20:25.359 Okay. 00:20:25.519 --> 00:20:27.359 We're going to be trusting more, not less. 00:20:27.519 --> 00:20:30.480 We are going to be living life more, not less. 00:20:30.720 --> 00:20:42.480 If that's where you are, if you're at the point of quietly suspecting that you've been trying to fix your body with tools that are actually making you worse or just not helping at all, I want you to take one specific next step. 00:20:42.720 --> 00:20:46.319 Head to Instagram and DM me the word FM Labs. 00:20:46.400 --> 00:20:48.480 My handle is Simply Healthy Wellness. 00:20:48.640 --> 00:20:51.680 When you DM me FM Labs, we start a real conversation. 00:20:51.920 --> 00:20:52.799 Not a sales pitch. 00:20:52.960 --> 00:20:54.160 I don't lead with a package. 00:20:54.319 --> 00:20:56.160 I lead with what's actually going on for you. 00:20:56.240 --> 00:20:58.160 And then I tell you what I would look at first. 00:20:58.319 --> 00:20:59.839 Sometimes that means labs. 00:21:00.000 --> 00:21:01.680 Sometimes it means something smaller. 00:21:01.839 --> 00:21:04.799 Sometimes it means we agree this is not the right next step for you. 00:21:04.880 --> 00:21:06.880 And that's a totally fine answer. 00:21:07.119 --> 00:21:21.359 But if you've been in this loop for years, which I find 90% of women are these days, and you're finally hearing somebody name what's happening, and something in you is going, I need to actually look at this, then please DM me. 00:21:21.519 --> 00:21:22.880 That's how we start a conversation. 00:21:23.039 --> 00:21:24.160 That's how we get things going. 00:21:24.319 --> 00:21:27.519 The first thing you can do on your own is just eat breakfast, please. 00:21:27.680 --> 00:21:35.200 An actual breakfast with protein and carbs and fat, the kind of breakfast you've been afraid of, and notice you're gonna survive. 00:21:35.519 --> 00:21:37.440 You're gonna survive the breakfast. 00:21:37.599 --> 00:21:41.039 Your body is way more resilient than the internet has told you it is. 00:21:41.200 --> 00:21:41.519 Okay. 00:21:41.839 --> 00:21:42.960 Just let it show you. 00:21:43.119 --> 00:21:47.839 All right, before I let you go, let's get to this week's kick rocks segment. 00:21:48.079 --> 00:21:55.440 This week's kick rocks goes to the wellness influencers selling the next elimination diet to women who are already eating only six things. 00:21:55.680 --> 00:21:56.480 You know the type. 00:21:56.640 --> 00:22:03.200 The I cured my insert symptom here by removing insert ever-expanding list of foods, right? 00:22:03.440 --> 00:22:09.279 That content that ends in a course or a coaching link or a supplement affiliate thing. 00:22:09.440 --> 00:22:12.960 Every single video adds one more food to the danger list. 00:22:13.200 --> 00:22:14.160 Every single one. 00:22:14.319 --> 00:22:23.119 By the time you've followed three of these accounts for a year, the only thing you're allowed to eat is grass-fed beef and a single approved root vegetable, right? 00:22:23.359 --> 00:22:24.480 You know what I'm talking about. 00:22:24.720 --> 00:22:27.039 I know you are thinking about it right now. 00:22:27.359 --> 00:22:28.000 You've seen it. 00:22:28.160 --> 00:22:29.359 You've seen it on the internet. 00:22:29.680 --> 00:22:32.720 The women watching this content are not going to get healthier though, right? 00:22:32.799 --> 00:22:34.079 They are going to get more afraid. 00:22:34.240 --> 00:22:38.079 They're going to lose more variety, more pleasure, more cycles, more peace. 00:22:38.160 --> 00:22:44.240 And they are going to think that they're winning because they have a clean kitchen and a chronic illness that's getting worse. 00:22:44.559 --> 00:22:46.240 You can kick rocks, okay? 00:22:46.480 --> 00:22:52.160 Influencers, you can kick rocks with your$80 grass-fed liver supplement right into a lake. 00:22:53.440 --> 00:22:55.599 All right, that's the episode. 00:22:55.759 --> 00:22:57.680 This one had a lot of feelings in it for me. 00:22:57.759 --> 00:23:01.759 And if it stirred some up for you too, send it to a friend who might need it. 00:23:01.920 --> 00:23:07.519 There's a lot of women in this exact spot, and most of them are not going to find their way out without somebody naming it for them. 00:23:07.680 --> 00:23:10.880 I look forward to talking to you soon, and I'll catch you next time. 00:23:13.200 --> 00:23:14.960 Thanks so much for hanging out with me today. 00:23:15.039 --> 00:23:18.319 If this episode did something for you, because let's be honest, it definitely did. 00:23:18.480 --> 00:23:25.279 The best thing you can do is follow the show so you never miss one and send it to a woman in your life who needs to hear this information. 00:23:25.440 --> 00:23:29.920 If you've got a minute, a review helps more women find this in a sea of wellness noise. 00:23:30.000 --> 00:23:31.200 And come find me on Instagram. 00:23:31.279 --> 00:23:36.480 That's where I hang out between episodes, and where you can tell me what you want me to nerd out about next. 00:23:36.640 --> 00:23:39.599 Until then, eat first, drink your coffee, and take care of yourself. 00:23:40.000 --> 00:23:40.799 See you next time.