Full Transcript for NFL Week 9 Reactions: Packers-Patriots, Raiders-49ers and more

Then, of course, they gave up a stupid easy field goal with like 30 seconds left in the first half. But then they're hanging in there. Two incredible drives. in the second half. They intercept Bo Nix in the red zone, 14 plays, 86-yard drive, six minutes. Panthers have fourth and one from the Broncos. Oh, no, no, that's not it. That was in the first half. I'm talking about in the second half. Brilliant Bryce Young drive, like 60 yards, six minutes. puts him up 14-13. But dude, that second drive, 12 plays, 87 yards, seven minutes, that interception in the end zone is the flukiest play of the day. Do you know what I'm talking about? Do you remember it? Have you wiped it from your memory? 00:07:48 Speaker 2: No, that one I remember forever. But that's also just, Like I say, you can get really upset about this stuff, but you have to laugh it off. What got me more upset was it's another week that we lose a bet to a missed field goal. Like these kickers, man. Last week we lost Simon Says, which was the Minnesota Vikings, on a kicker. Same thing here. Their kicker in Denver hits both their field goals. Our kicker misses one. We lose by five. And it's like that three changed the whole game. This 14-point swing you're talking about changed the whole game, obviously. Bryce is driving to take an eight-point lead. feel like they're gonna get it like the whole momentum has totally gone their way like you said flukius fingertip flip up in the air guy picks it off heads up play by the db and respect about nicks because he got that ball and drove 80 yards down the field scored a touchdown and that really did change the game so um yeah brutal someone had a lot of money in this one it just did not go away and bryce did everything he could in his power to get us there but the kicker man you have one job i'm happy he made three extra points that's great but Between 40 and 49 yards, it should be automatic for the most part when it's nice conditions. And that kicker missed it. And it kind of changed the whole thing at the end of the game where they're having to go for it, be more risky. And, yeah, Bryce took a bad sack, got strip sacked, and that was all she wrote. So I don't know about you, but we still believed. Like we had the ball back into the game. 00:09:08 Speaker 1: I totally believed. 00:09:09 Speaker 2: Bryce is going to get us there. And that was just such a soul crusher to start the 1 p.m.s where it's like, oh, God. Oh, and two with them and the Jets to start the day. Here we go. So that's always tough to start the 1 p.m. 00:09:21 Speaker 1: The interception, it wasn't even off the guy's fingertips. He was lying on his back. The ball hit his forearm and bounced up. And the guy in the Broncos caught it with his fingertips right before it hit the ground. And what was frustrating for that was the Panthers could have been rushing like. There were enough people on the Broncos side of the ball saying, throw the flag, throw the flag to Sean Payton. But the Panthers took their own sweet time to get the playoff. They didn't rush to the line of scrimmage. And Sean Payton had all this time for his team to review it and then throw the challenge flag. If the Panthers had gone a little bit faster, they might not lose the ball on that play, but I don't think they were sort of aware enough of the situation to go quickly. Cause yeah, that one, I think that was also, uh, their kickers first field goal miss of the season. He might've been 13 for 13. He had missed four extra points, but I think this was his first field goal miss of the season. Before we get to the next really terrible game, I need to tell you about this new prediction market called Polymarket. It's the best new way to trade in sports. In the past, if you wanted action on the game, you'd put some money in. 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That included pick six, I think on the second play of the second half, three turnovers inside 49ers territory. Two of those turnovers were at the freaking goal line. If there was ever a game that we had no business being in, yet we entirely should have covered, this was the game. 00:12:12 Speaker 2: A little bit of it. We had the bad Kirk game. That's what we always talk about, though. This is the fear when we bet this Raiders team. If Kirk doesn't play to the highest standard, we get burned here. And like you said, they had the opportunities. There was a ton of openings in the passing game this game. Obviously, the run game was a total zero for the Raiders. They couldn't get anything. Washington had six carries for minus three yards. 00:12:34 Speaker 1: Jesus. 00:12:35 Speaker 2: What a day at work. Just brutal. Obviously, you said that. That pick six to start the second half, we both knew it's over. We had a little bit of a glimmer of hope because, you know, they're driving. It's 28-17. And like you said, they get a catch at the one, going in for a touchdown. It gets punched out. And, I mean, you saw it across the league today, man. The punch outs, we've seen it this season.

There's been a lot of it. But today felt especially fumbly. There was just so many fumbles. Yeah, it was. It's like every time they were cutting around, especially on the red zone, it was like you're going from a fumble to a fumble to a fumble. So, yeah, this game– you know, we talked going into it, the fear of Purdy having a kind of type of game he could have. And even if it wasn't his best day at the biggest moments, he used his legs when he needed to. And on third downs, he had a couple of huge pickups, like third and 14. I remember this one played six of them and picking up. It's like, Oh my God, you can't give up these easy ones. Raiders. They're just so bad. So yeah, tough, tough one. Like them and the jets played them cause they're 10 and a half. And both totally irrelevant that as you could be. And, that was a theme for me today. Like I had a great number on the saints two and a half and that lost a thousand different ways. And it's like, yeah, you can only, you can be upset about it. Like you just said, everything that could have gone against us in this game really did. Especially, I don't know if we'll talk about the Rams, Washington game, that game had the Rams go for four for four and fourth downs. Like if you're on the commander side, it just isn't your day. Like the other team is just getting so lucky and they're breaking all the odds. And, That's what it felt like here where every time we got a break on the Raiders side, like a Purdy threw a bad pick, Kirk just did nothing with her. If they got all the way down to the one, they fumbled at the one. It just never got our way. So even the kick return, the kick return broke it. The guy grabbed the end of his jersey by just the string of his jersey and stopped before returning it. So every little thing just didn't break our way through. And yeah, it's tough where you look back at this and it's like you said, you look back and you're like, man, there's other games we probably should have played. Why did we get so obsessed with this Raiders side? But It was just such a big number and such a favorable matchup. 00:14:36 Speaker 1: It was the numbers. I mean, I feel like the game that we would have put in is the Colts. We'll get to that game in a second. Let's finish up with Seattle. Seattle, we had taken, they had played Arizona. The line was eight and a half. We played eight and a half. We had played 10.5 earlier in the week. I actually played 6.5 when Seattle was down 3-0. Even this one almost went against us in the final minutes of the game. But I am proud of us that we did not waver when it was going to be Drew Locke. Because Drew Locke has been good. The numbers shouldn't have moved from It had gotten up, I think, to 12.5 with Sam Darnold. And then when he was announced, it got down to 8.5. Feels like it was too much. I'm glad we stuck with it on this one because it played the way we thought it was, which was this defense is just going to be too good for Gardner Minshew. And that's basically how it played out. 00:15:51 Speaker 2: Yeah, all in the defense just needed somewhat of an offense. And luckily, we got an offense for one quarter. Second quarter, they got us 14 points. that was it. Like that was the weirdest part was that second half. Like you said, we were there for the, the backdoor was there at a hundred different points for that Cardinals team. Even, you know, us sitting there watching them. I think they got down to like the two or the three with Trey McBride and luckily Seattle's defense had a couple of stops there and that, you know, saved us the cover. So yeah, look at this matchup, obviously, you know, a bunch of people who listen to the show, they had bet the 11 and a half, they bet the 12 and, we both said we were happy with every number we got on them, and we didn't view the Drew Locke as that much of a step down. It's obviously somewhat of a step down, clearly, but even in this game, Drew Locke, he looked really good, and then whatever happened, whether he took a hit or whatever, he just did not want to throw the ball anymore in the field. Yeah, this is going to be the question with Seattle going forward. We know how great their defense is. They've been inconsistent offensively, and they said Drew Locke might be playing again next week for Seattle, so what does that mean? But Yeah, like you said, I'm happy we dug in on this one and we never really wavered. Really trusted the Seattle defense. And yeah, the type of game that, I mean, they were begging, Minshew was begging to give away this game and throw bad passes. And like you said, the Seahawks could never pull away. They had the one good quarter. So it shouldn't have been a sweat. It was a sweat before it came on the air. And we were just, thank God, sitting here one and three rather than over four. 00:17:23 Speaker 1: Drew Locke, who knows what's going to happen next week, right? He went back in. But he already has the tendonitis in the elbow, which didn't seem to affect him that much. There were a couple of drives in that second quarter, especially the final drive where he was sort of unleashed. Drew Locke, they got rolling. They converted a third down. All of a sudden, Drew Locke hits JSN, JSN in a very tight window. JSN gets to the sideline, gains a lot of yards after. And then Drew Locke threw just a bullet to A.J. Barner into the end zone. And he looked great in that second quarter. On that drive specifically, the defense was playing so angry and hitting so hard. And that last drive, they got helped by, I think, a phantom pass interference on a play where the Seahawks actually intercepted the ball. But I will be curious to see what happened with Drew Locke because He was injured in the game. He couldn't tell if it was a hip or something or an oblique, but he was definitely limping. And they had Jalen Milrow warming up. So we'll see what happens next week. I don't know if we know right now. Could be tricky. Could be tricky for the Seattle Seahawks.

00:18:44 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just thought it was serious because they literally had him do nothing the second half. They just didn't want him taking any type of hits. And it's like something must be wrong here because– They're so scared to pull him out of the game because they don't trust their third stringer. And they just don't want him to take hits right now. It was just a terrifying position to be in with our minus eight and a half on that Seattle team. 00:19:03 Speaker 1: Terrible. One of the other games we thought about putting in Detroit at Miami, Miami closed at six and a half. Bummer for anyone who was back in the Dolphins, including us, because they actually played great in this game and they held Detroit through most of the game. It was terrible. Another situation where Detroit, at the end of the game, found a way to score a touchdown with Jameer Gibbs just doing shifty things. But kudos to Miami. They continue to play really hard. Their effort is always apparent. They just didn't have it today. And kudos to the Lions because their defense did not have a lot of guys. And if they, maybe if they're playing anyone else, it might've been worse. You just, the dolphins aren't talented enough. And it just, today is when it got us. We've been wondering if it would get us today. It got us, but we did not put them in the contest. 00:19:59 Speaker 2: Yeah. Sickening did not cover this one where the lines having to go every trick in the book, like golf, having a terrible game. I think they had kicked four field goals. They were four for four on fourth downs, and that's what this came– the cover came down to that. Four for four on fourth downs. They were three of 12 on third downs. So, you know, Miami did their job on third down, but that four for four just totally killed us. And the fake punt. It was just– and I love that they did a fake punt back to them. Miami did their own fake punt, which is just– that game had it all. And unfortunately, that was one of those games where I was locked in on it, just like the Saints. I watched every minute. just hating it where it's like oh my god miami you have so many opportunities here and they just could not capitalize on and yeah their defense did what we thought they're going to do they showed up but really hard just thought with the injury especially the secondary of detroit malik willis be able to pass the ball better and just he wasn't i think he was like a 50 completion percentage yeah it's terrible they just could not push the ball downfield which meant the defense could step up and i think gordon couldn't get anything going on the wrong game and Yeah, like I talked about, I'm just too close to Miami. So glad we avoided it for the contest because I would have totally owned this one where it just felt like from the start of the second half, everything that was going right for Miami in the first half offensively just was not going their way. They just were able to keep the ball away from Goff, and Goff could never get into a rhythm. He kind of got into one in the second half. Even the run game got better in the second half. I think first half, they're basically averaging two yards per carry. Detroit, they ended up averaging like three or almost four yards per carry. in the second half, which totally shifted the game with games. And, uh, yeah, it's a double digit win, but didn't feel that way. Someone watching that game, like they won by 10, but it felt like it was much, much closer in many ways. Just that fourth quarter, Miami, everything broke the opposite way for them where everything kind of went right for Detroit. So yeah, brutal, no cover. 00:21:45 Speaker 1: Brutal, just brutal. Uh, I want to talk about one more brutal one before we get to the game that we probably should have put in, uh, We got to talk about the Saints. I mean, that game, dude, the Saints could never pull away in that game. And it felt like they were making Shador look so bad. And they just kept making the same mistakes over and over. The Saints did. And then in overtime, they let Shador go down the freaking field. And like, they can't tackle Harold Fannin Jr. And he runs in for the touchdown. That blows the cover for like... everybody because they ended up going for two and not getting it. So the saints win by one. 00:22:33 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:22:34 Speaker 2: Another game, just like the Raiders, two games I bet on both happened to have guys fumble at the one yard line and Jordan Tyson, first catch of his career gets punched out at the one yard line of Cleveland. You know, Cleveland can do anything. I think they punted the ball and I think the saints fumbled that as well. Like something else happened bizarre like that. That's how they got their first points of the game. The saints, dominated this game in every way and i can't believe i didn't cover this game this number got up to four and a half by kickoff and i have i had so much money at two and a half i i'd won like i'd won and i'd lost like it was just dead from the get-go that cleveland chador would take just a hammer to the face and someone complete a third and 14 pass down yes it was insane it really was just one of those games and it all came down to them going for two. Cause I really do think if they just went for the tie, the saints go down the field, kick a field goal. And I would have covered that number. Cause it just Cleveland defense. You saw in the overtime, they were, they were done. And we talk all the time though. That's something to remember for whoever Cleveland plays next week and the saints, like those overtime games, it does matter. And so as a full quarter Cleveland left in the game. And you saw that last play to the tight end fan. Yeah. They were exhausted. They had nothing left in their legs. You just, threw those guys off of him and just took it the way. So, yeah, Shador, man, crazy game. I had no faith in him, thought this was going to be easy, easy money, and it looked that way at the

start. But that fourth quarter, whatever that Watson magic is, he rubbed it off on him. And, my God, I can't believe they scored that touchdown overtime. Crazy. So, yeah, Browns, man, I don't know what to say about them. They keep fighting and keep fighting to the end of these games, and they have a lot of luck. But they're a tough out. They really are. 00:24:17 Speaker 1: Well, it's going to be interesting next week when they host the Houston Texans and there looks like three and a half point, four and a half point home underdogs in week 10 with Deshaun Watson hosting the Houston Texans. Like, come on, man. The game that we probably should have put in, I'm not sure, but we probably maybe would have taken out the Jets. Maybe we would have taken out the Raiders. I'm not quite sure. but we should have put Indy in. Pretty fun game, actually. Like the Colts were just so aggressive on defense. And I think in the end it burned them. But let's talk about the final four minutes, 27 seconds in this game. The Colts, the Cowboys fumble in the Colts red zone. The Colts fumble in the Cowboys red zone. The Cowboys punt. The Colts get a field goal. Brandon Aubrey misses a field goal. The Colts get a field goal to take the lead. And in the final minute, the Cowboys get a touchdown to win the game. It's like nobody wanted to win this game. Everyone was going out of their way to find ways to to lose this game in spectacular fashion. It ended on a Daniel Jones interception, by the way. 00:25:51 Speaker 2: Yeah, this was a true, true hate watch. Like I hated honestly, every minute of this game watching it, it was fun to win at the end, but I just, the whole time I was like, why did I tell people that listen to our show to bet on this cold steam? It's, it's such an awful experience. And like I said, this type of thing, we can bet this and we don't have to bet them again now for a bunch of weeks. If we don't need to, they just, I just knew that number was inflated, and little did we know it was only by half a point. Got really lucky. But to me, this sums up this team in Indiana. They punt with a minute left in that first half and allowed Dak to drive the field and score a touchdown within 30 seconds. 00:26:29 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:26:30 Speaker 2: How is that possible? You're punting from your own 40. You give the ball to Dak, and he's able to get down the field in 30 seconds and score the touchdown. It's like this Colts team. is so terrible. Like you said, they played so hard. They were hitting so hard. Super aggressive, but Sauce, you gave up this pick for him. Just every little clip I see of him, he just is horrible. Like, they needed a big completion. Yeah. Into the third receiver, and he's burning Sauce. 00:26:53 Speaker 1: That was the game. Yeah, like, that was the end of the game. That was the play that put the Cowboys in a position to win the game. 00:26:59 Speaker 2: Yeah, we just had, like, another sneaky part of the reason I love this cold spot was just like, I knew Pickens probably wasn't going to play, and I knew Joey Porter Jr. wasn't going to play, and it's like, you're already such a bad team in Dallas. You can't afford to lose two of your five best players. Like that's what those guys are to that team. And I mean, the colds, Daniel Jones, we've talked about how bad he's been this year. I remember looking at his numbers at halftime. I'm just like, I can't believe we're in this game. We had to finish the game 20 for 34 for 180 yards, one touchdown, one pick. And like, we've talked about it. He is terrible. We just really didn't get anything on Jonathan Taylor. That really was a fluky game where every time we needed a turnover, yeah, bounce to go our way. We kind of had it with Colts there. So they're a team I'm definitely going to be eyeing up fading going forward because it's just the pros were all over them this week. The public was all over Dallas. And yeah, as a pro, I feel like we got very lucky that this came out our way. But I think you're going to feel the same way as me as somebody who had money in the Colts money line. It's like Colts should have won that game. Like they really let it get away, letting easy points come up at the end of the first half and let easy points end of the game. So yeah, this is a team that they fired the GM for good reason, but it's like, they still got a bunch of pieces to get rid of. Like Jonathan Taylor. I get the owners tied to this guy. If you can best, you can get a second round pick. You need to take it. You're not a year or two away. You watch this team. It's like, yeah, they need to tear this defense down. Then you rebuild this offensive line. You are two, three years away. Minimum. 00:28:22 Speaker 1: If you're the Colts, they need a new quarterback. They kind of need everything. 00:28:25 Speaker 2: Everything. 00:28:26 Speaker 1: That's what I mean. 00:28:27 Speaker 2: Just got to sell all the parts. 00:28:29 Speaker 1: Yeah. That as someone who had the Colts on the money line, That was as excruciating sort of as the Jets, as the Raiders. It just would have been a really nice payoff and would have countered all these other freaking losses on the day. We got to talk about any of the games you want to talk about? We got to talk about Sunday Night Football. uh we're invested on the bucks at six and a half um what is that line right now last i saw it was trending down um i'm seeing it. 00:29:16 Speaker 2: Has gone back up to six and a half. 00:29:18 Speaker 1: Yeah it's back at six and a half so. 00:29:20 Speaker 2: It's expected a ton of ton of people chasing i mean bears yeah really good team we just saw today like all these a lot of these dogs got beat up by better teams and think that's the way the public's going to sway but um yeah for games we regret i think we both agree regret not having houston right yeah we should have faded the chargers that was a bad miss we've about it. You said you bet it. I bet it. We wish we had put it in. Rams, I

wish I'd fought harder on that. It was just a situation where it's like we're still undervaluing this Rams team defensively just because getting– you saw it. Getting Myles Garrett back today. What do you have, two sacks? Just the total– Game changer. Anytime Jay and Dan should get outside the pocket, Miles is waiting for them. That Rams team, they're ugly. They win ugly ways. They're banged up, too. I think they said Puka got hurt at the end of the game. They just have some injuries, but they're just another team that just keeps finding a way to win. For me, my biggest regret is for sure not fighting hard enough to get Houston in. I just hate that Chargers team. They're so terrible. If they don't fire somebody to do something again, we do need to have a serious talk next week about just fading them once again. They're another team. They're pros. Keep betting them. That number was six. Got bet down to four, four and a half. And I keep asking these guys, who am I to judge? But why do you do this to yourself? You watch a minute of that game against Houston. The Chargers look so disinterested. It's just brutal. And they take Herbert out because Herbert got banged up. So, yeah, that's just– people have asked about it. That's the biggest regret this season. We've not been fading the Chargers. And they're a cash cow. They're 0-8-1 against the spread this season. 00:30:53 Speaker 1: Texans and Colts for sure. It would have been nice to have those in there. 100% regret those. Before we get to our heroes and shames, do you want to talk about Buffalo, Minnesota? It's now at three. We know it's going to be Carson Wentz. We are both on the Vikings. I'm actually on the Vikings on the money line as well. Um, I think that, uh, I got some notes in here that bills have multiple people who are questionable, um, Dion Dawkins and Alec Anderson on the offensive line. I like being on the Vikings. We never really gave them serious consideration to put in the contest, but I would imagine that you were on the Vikings as well. 00:31:51 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's all about the number, though. If you could only get the three, I really wouldn't bet it. I would just pick to see how the game goes, right? Josh Allen gets the ball, drives the field, gets a touchdown. There you go. You get five and a half now, most likely on Minnesota. So that's one of the things. You can be patient. If you can't get the three and a half, which is the only way I'd bet Minnesota here, just because it is, at the end of the day, it's Josh Allen and you're backing Carson Wentz. And we're really, it's another game just like Seattle. We're backing the defense and we expect Carson to be able to take advantage of this Bill's secondary, but overall it's not a game i'm gonna force him like that we saw a couple games run run crazy numbers today like that eagle's gonna rain down to minus two or whatever it was on the giants same thing happens for the bills here if this ran down to minus two and a half i'd honestly

be tempted to play the bills so um people can really pick their poison here it's just heavily heavily pros versus just like tonight it's the pros are all over tampa public's all over the bear same with tomorrow night like this i talked to a bookmaker earlier he's like yeah our Biggest two-team teaser now after the 4 p.m. is going to be everyone on Chicago teased with the Bills. It's just everyone's doing it. It's a nice spot to be in need with the books, but we've seen it today. The public has had a lot of bounces go their way today, so hopefully it comes back around for us tonight. 00:33:06 Speaker 1: Speaking of, you just said something that made me think of J.J. McCarthy. Oh, the Eagles? J.J. McCarthy, I didn't even check his stats today. JJ McCarthy, 12 and 19 for 127 yards. The giants are magical. They're just freaking magical winning and covering. 00:33:26 Speaker 2: Well, James Winston came in and kind of fired their team up. It was crazy. Like JJ got hurt. James came when I think he was like six of nine or six of eight passing touchdown. Yeah. It totally sparked the team. It was a wild where like they were kind of dead, had no real emotion. Winston led that drive and their defense came out really fired up and I keep telling people, easiest bet you'll make all year, fading Eagles second half. They are now 0-9 against the spread in the second half. I know I say a lot of stupid shit, but my God, every week I'm begging you guys just to fade this Eagles team. They're so poorly coached. They make no adjustments, and every week they just open, drive, touchdown, and they do nothing the rest of the game. It feels like it's been that way now for three, four weeks ever since Jalen's got hurt. 0-9 against the spread second half. Sirianni now is an underdog as a Coach at home, he is 0 for 9 against the spread. 00:34:19 Speaker 1: Jesus. 00:34:22 Speaker 2: Or 0 for 9 straight up, 1 and 9 against the spread. 00:34:27 Speaker 1: Simon, who's your hero of the week? 00:34:29 Speaker 2: On a week like this, Chad, it is. 00:34:31 Speaker 1: There's no heroes. 00:34:33 Speaker 2: I would say that. 00:34:35 Speaker 1: Drew Locke, the Seattle defense. C.J. Stroud, the Texans defense. I don't know. 00:34:40 Speaker 2: I was just going to give it to Daniel Jones because he only threw one pick. And on a day like today, that's a hero enough for us. Daniel Jones, no one believed in him. We did, covered by half a point on the four and a half. So it's got to be Daniel Jones for me. That was just by far our ballsiest call this week, going out, staking our claim on this cold side. And it actually coming through was just a great feeling. 00:35:03 Speaker 1: I'll give it to Drew Locke. Drew Locke, who everyone thought was going to blow this game or at least not be able to cover this game. Bookmakers adjusted it by four points from what the line was when they thought Sam Darnold was playing. Drew Locke didn't throw picks. He didn't make mistakes. He had a fantastic scoring drive at the end of the first half that basically gave them the cover and then stayed in it after he was injured and kept control of the line of scrimmage and the game and the play calling. Great job. Great job, Drew Locke. Shame. 00:35:41 Speaker 2: Shame. 00:35:43 Speaker 1: Shame. I mean, there's so many, so many options to go around. Why don't you go first? 00:35:50 Speaker 2: I mean, I have to shame this Carolina kicker, Fitzgerald. Cost us a cover. I can't, I can't take the shame. Shame on these kickers, man. First missed kick of the year and just such a cost. You want to cost us a cover and But Dentry Carolina went. It was lined up perfectly. I'm going to win that game. And just the dynamic of being down five rather than three changes everything. 00:36:15 Speaker 1: I'm going to be very specific. And maybe he doesn't deserve to be shamed when the whole team really deserves to be shamed. But Raiders tight end Mike Mayer fumbled the ball at the goal line. . 00:36:31 Speaker 3: . 00:36:35 Speaker 1: got punched out by Fred Warner as he was about to cross the goal line. It would have made it 28-24, 49ers. Then I think it's the next series. The Raiders are at the goal line. He catches a touchdown pass. I think it would then be 35-24. I can't remember what the scenario was, but it was later. But it's the next series. He gets called for OPI. So two straight drives in a row where the Raiders are at the goal line and Mike Mayer finds a way to snatch defeat from the jaws of a touchdown. So, well, everybody on the Raiders deserves something. Kirk threw two picks. Brock Bowers fumbled the ball. Mike Mayer cost the team two touchdowns today. And that could have been the difference. So shame, shame, shame. What are we thinking for next week? I'll be honest. I jotted down a couple of notes. I barely looked because I'm still reeling from the early part of the day. 00:37:44 Speaker 2: One thing that I do is forgetting those that is behind and reaching forward to what's ahead. 00:37:55 Speaker 1: I think Jameis can inspire all of us today. The first game that stuck out to me, Simon, I mean, we talked about Houston and Cleveland a little bit. I'm not really ready to commit to the Browns yet. I thought Atlanta was interesting against Kansas. 00:38:09 Speaker 2: I knew this was going to be their first game. You had said, well, you're getting three and a half? Yep. Yeah, three and a half Atlanta. As soon as I saw that, I was like, Chad's going to find another way to try to fade Chiefs. Sure. I'm with you. It's a great number. Atlanta, we saw their game earlier today, right? Their defense couldn't stop a thing, but that's not who the Chiefs are. They can't push the ball downfield like we saw with the Bengals today. Yeah. I'm right there with you. That one jumped out. I mean, there's so many games this week that's like so gross that we're going to have to jump in on. The Colts are minus two and a half right now at home against Miami. 00:38:41

Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:38:41 Speaker 2: That one jumps out to me. That's like, you're having, you have under a field goal. I know how horrible the Colts are. We just talked about it, but that's too much. That should be three, three, three and a half is where I want to be. 00:38:51 Speaker 1: We just said we want to fade the Colts every week. 00:38:55 Speaker 2: That line is insane. Like that should be easily be three, three and a half. I can't believe the books have opened that two and a half. The Lions are two and a half at home against the Patriots. What is that line? Like, I get it. The Patriots are going to be better than they were today. That was an embarrassment by Vrabel's defenses. And I will be happy to back the Patriots at plus three, plus three and a half. But at two and a half opening line, I'm going to grab Detroit here every time. That's just way too much disrespect to how good Detroit's been and how good golf's been at home especially. It's just a bizarro line to hang that one. 00:39:29 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:39:30 Speaker 2: Brought up the Cleveland one. Like how do you not grab plus four and a half Cleveland? 00:39:33 Speaker 1: I know. 00:39:35 Speaker 2: Very bizarre line by the books. Like that feels a little bit like we don't know the drama going on behind the scenes. Cause it was weird today. Watson was like a healthy scratch. He apparently cleared concussion protocol. but they used Gabriel as the number two. I just thought whatever's going on, that's my only pause with the Browns. I don't know. There's something behind the scenes. I don't know why Watson didn't play today. If you clear concussion protocol, why would he not play? So maybe it's another injury we don't know about. So that's just what I'm going to bet very small compared to these other ones I'm talking about. Like I'll bet very little here into Cleveland. You know, another line that just doesn't make sense. Like it feels way too low. The Seahawks are minus three at Vegas. 00:40:17 Speaker 1: Are you seeing three or three and a half? Okay, I see a three. 00:40:20 Speaker 2: Yeah, I see a three. I just feel like that's too low of a line to open with. We're talking like favorites I like to jump out. That's another one. Cowboys right now, they're four and a half point dogs at home against the 49ers. I'm going to throw a taste on it, but maybe we get to six. We don't know the injury on Pickens. We don't know what Joey Porter is going through. It's another line that can move, I think, in our favor. Just people are so disgusted with the Cowboys team, especially not covering today. They were a very big public side. So I think we'll be able to get a better number on that. All right, here's the true test, Chad. Monday Night Football, LA Chargers plus three and a half at the Ravens. 00:41:00 Speaker 1: I know. 00:41:01 Speaker 2: Are we going to put our money where our mouth is? I'm going to bet it now just in case Herbert's out. Like, to me, this is just a move I'm going to make just in case. Because if he is out. 00:41:12 Speaker 1: Because we're assuming Jacoby Brissett is going to be the starter. 00:41:15 Speaker 2: Yeah, but Brissett will play. Like, people I talk to for the Ravens, he will be playing this week. On the flip side, if Herbert's out, I know the Ravens are terrible. But, like, my God, the charges. What does this line go up to? Seven and a half? Even though it's Brissett? They have nothing. The only thing holding them even kind of together is the fact that they have Herbert back there. So. I just couldn't believe that number. They hung that number right away where I can buy out of that position later on if I need to, but right away, I'm going to grab that set in a Ravens team that, what are they on a three game, four game slide here? Like they're going to be super desperate at home here in this position against a Chargers team that we say every week, they just look like they've quit and they haven't fired the head coach. They've made no changes in that organization. They haven't traded anybody. So we hope they don't do that again, because that's another reason we want to keep fading this Chargers team. Nothing changes. Why would they change? So. Yeah, some really fun lines, honestly, next week that I'm really excited about. Usually, we just like a bunch of dogs, but there's some favorites I really like that pop out early in this week right now. 00:42:15 Speaker 1: The one thing we got to remember that Detroit game is in Munich. 00:42:20 Speaker 2: God damn. We're still in Munich? You're still in Spain? 00:42:23 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:42:25 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:42:26 Speaker 2: That's tough, then. Yeah, so I won't hammer that. I said I was going to. I just– I thought that was going to be golf at home against the bad New England team. 00:42:34 Speaker 4: I can't believe we're setting ourselves up to watch a Baltimore Chargers game on Monday Night Football instead of, you know. 00:42:46 Speaker 2: You don't have to watch it, brother. You can bet it and go about your life on Monday night. I don't know if I'm going to watch it. I'm just going to bet it. 00:42:55 Speaker 1: All right. 00:42:56 Speaker 2: But it's a tricky week. Like, Bengals are at home, minus three and a half to Pittsburgh. Or are we going to try to back Pittsburgh there? It's going to be really tricky lines this week coming up. 00:43:07 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. That's another game I looked at. I'm like, God, that feels like we want to be on Pittsburgh there. 00:43:14 Speaker 2: Why would we not backdoor that? That's such a tempting number. It's just interesting how the books have hung these early lines this week. They're tempting me with a lot of these lines. 00:43:25 Speaker 1: All right. Listen, we're one and three on the day in our contest. We're waiting on the Tampa Bay Buccaneers to try to cover against the juggernaut Chicago Bears. We will be back on Tuesday with our Week 10 betting preview. This has been Sharper Square presented by Polymarket. We're part of the Volume Podcast Network. Watch us on Sharper Square at YouTube. Like the video. Subscribe to the channel. Download us from Spotify, Apple Pods, wherever you get your pods. Rate, review, subscribe. Leave us five stars. Say whatever you want. Feedback is a gift until Tuesday. Love you. 00:44:05 Speaker 3: They are the monsters of the midway. 00:44:19 Speaker 2: The Chicago Bears.