Full Transcript for S2E50-ReRun-REWATCH07-PT01-Chikhai Bardo

being the writer on this episode. 67 00:03:57.759 --> 00:04:00.879 The name of our director, Jessica Lee Guy should sound 68 00:04:01.000 --> 00:04:04.400 very familiar to you. She is the visionary cinematographer who 69 00:04:04.439 --> 00:04:07.240 has made Severance such a visual treat throughout the last 70 00:04:07.319 --> 00:04:10.680 season and a half. This is her first ever directing assignment. 71 00:04:10.840 --> 00:04:13.960 Directing seems like it would be a natural progression in 72 00:04:14.000 --> 00:04:17.240 her career, but Jessica fought getting here at every turn. 73 00:04:17.519 --> 00:04:20.680 Fate stepped in at several points to guide her. Jessica 74 00:04:20.920 --> 00:04:24.040 or JLG, first worked with Ben Stiller on the twenty 75 00:04:24.040 --> 00:04:27.439 eighteen TV mini series Escape at Dana Mora. It also 76 00:04:27.639 --> 00:04:31.000 starred Patricia Arquette. I watched the summer of twenty twenty 77 00:04:31.000 --> 00:04:34.600 two just after starting work on this podcast. It is 78 00:04:34.800 --> 00:04:37.480 very entertaining and well done. Check it out if you 79 00:04:37.480 --> 00:04:40.240 get a chance Escape at Dana Mora streams for free 80 00:04:40.279 --> 00:04:44.279 with a subscription to either Paramount Plus or Netflix. When 81 00:04:44.439 --> 00:04:47.959 Severance landed on Ben's desk at Red Hour, he recognized 82 00:04:48.000 --> 00:04:51.439 the need for a visionary cinematographer. His first call was 83 00:04:51.480 --> 00:04:54.439 to Jessica. After reading the available scripts and show treatment, 84 00:04:54.560 --> 00:04:58.600 she declined JLG loves to work with natural light. She 85 00:04:58.720 --> 00:05:02.279 likes to shoot outside and during the day. Most of 86 00:05:02.480 --> 00:05:06.759 Severance happens inside when we aren't down on the severed floor. 87 00:05:06.879 --> 00:05:10.160 The Oudi world is both night and winter. Since the 88 00:05:10.199 --> 00:05:13.160 outside world is cold and dark, everyone pretty much stays 89 00:05:13.240 --> 00:05:17.839 inside after hours too. This whole Severance situation was Jlg's 90 00:05:17.959 --> 00:05:21.399 nightmare as a cinematographer. It took a lot of convincing 91 00:05:21.439 --> 00:05:24.120 on the part of Ben Stiller to get her to agree. 92 00:05:24.279 --> 00:05:27.319 As we discussed in season one, she also found photo 93 00:05:27.360 --> 00:05:31.600 books depicting interesting shots of modern office settings. These photos 94 00:05:31.639 --> 00:05:34.800 inspired Jessica to make the look of Severance something really 95 00:05:34.920 --> 00:05:38.680 interesting and uniquely her own, even though it was almost 96 00:05:38.879 --> 00:05:41.959 entirely an inside shoot. She dug into the project with 97 00:05:42.120 --> 00:05:46.519 enthusiasm and the backing of lead director and executive producers Stiller. 98 00:05:46.959 --> 00:05:50.920 After a season of White hallways. Jessica was done with 99 00:05:51.000 --> 00:05:54.959 the whole inside shooting thing. Sure it was artistically stimulating 100 00:05:55.079 --> 00:05:57.639 and a challenge, but she felt she'd done everything she 101 00:05:57.680 --> 00:06:00.160 could with the severed floor environment. She told and then 102 00:06:00.279 --> 00:06:03.079 she would be quitting severance at the end of season one. 103 00:06:03.399 --> 00:06:08.199 Ben's response was basically no. He tried to entice her 104 00:06:08.240 --> 00:06:10.439 with a big carrot. If you come back for season two, 105 00:06:10.639 --> 00:06:14.560 you can direct an episode. Jlg is a cinematographer, and 106 00:06:14.639 --> 00:06:18.120 a very successful one, but that wasn't always the dream. 107 00:06:18.279 --> 00:06:20.639 When she first attended film school, she was there to 108 00:06:20.759 --> 00:06:23.959 be a director. Before she could get too deeply into 109 00:06:24.000 --> 00:06:28.680 the directing curriculum, cinematography got her attention. She changed course 110 00:06:28.720 --> 00:06:33.319 professionally and has always worked as a cinematographer. Her desire 111 00:06:33.439 --> 00:06:36.439 to direct came flooding back when Ben handed her the 112 00:06:36.439 --> 00:06:38.959 outline of the second season. She read it during a 113 00:06:38.959 --> 00:06:42.639 plane ride. The seventh episode. This one really stood out, 114 00:06:42.759 --> 00:06:45.000 she said. It spoke to her close friends had just 115 00:06:45.120 --> 00:06:49.120 experienced the stress of the IVF procedure and the heartbreak 116 00:06:49.160 --> 00:06:51.839 of a miscarriage. Ganya said she knew she could tell 117 00:06:51.879 --> 00:06:55.199 this story with the sensitivity and respect it required. As 118 00:06:55.240 --> 00:06:58.319 she said in an interview about the episode. Quote, I 119 00:06:58.360 --> 00:07:00.360 wanted to make sure a woman was going going to 120 00:07:00.439 --> 00:07:03.480 tell this story because it's the first time in Severance 121 00:07:03.519 --> 00:07:07.399 where we're fully in a female perspective. The episode is 122 00:07:07.600 --> 00:07:10.920 Jemma's episode. I wanted to accompany her through that story, 123 00:07:10.959 --> 00:07:14.360 and I felt like I was suited to tell it. Unquote. 124 00:07:14.399 --> 00:07:17.040 After not wanting to take the cinematographer job in the 125 00:07:17.040 --> 00:07:19.759 first place, then preparing to quit after the first season, 126 00:07:19.920 --> 00:07:23.560 JLG grudgingly agreed to come back for another season of Severance. 127 00:07:23.680 --> 00:07:26.360 She would sign on for the entire season a cinematographer, 128 00:07:26.519 --> 00:07:29.639 but the chance to direct this episode was what really 129 00:07:29.639 --> 00:07:32.639 brought her back. Did she make the right choice even 130 00:07:32.680 --> 00:07:35.000 though she fought it at every turn? Did fate take 131 00:07:35.040 --> 00:07:38.920 her to the right place in her life and career? Oh? Yeah. 132

00:07:39.040 --> 00:07:41.319 Not only was this episode Harold, it is one of 133 00:07:41.399 --> 00:07:43.680 the best of the season, it was also described by 134 00:07:43.720 --> 00:07:47.439 a number of noted television reviewers as possibly being one 135 00:07:47.439 --> 00:07:51.720 of the best episodes of television ever made. Ever, it 136 00:07:51.759 --> 00:07:55.120 is truly incredible. No surprise. At the time of this recording, 137 00:07:55.120 --> 00:07:58.399 the Emmy Awards nominations were just announced. For twenty twenty five, 138 00:07:58.680 --> 00:08:02.319 Severance picked up a feel leading twenty seven nominations. One 139 00:08:02.319 --> 00:08:04.480 of those, and one that is considered to shoe in, 140 00:08:04.720 --> 00:08:07.959 is for Jessica Lyganie as Best Director for the episode 141 00:08:08.040 --> 00:08:10.839 Cheek I Bardo. She's even going up against friend and 142 00:08:10.920 --> 00:08:14.079 mentor Ben Stiller in the same category for his work 143 00:08:14.079 --> 00:08:17.759 on the episode Cole Harbor. The rookie. Jessica is heavily 144 00:08:17.879 --> 00:08:21.160 favored to win. And if that's not enough winning for you, 145 00:08:21.240 --> 00:08:23.879 how about this. J lg is the first woman to 146 00:08:24.000 --> 00:08:28.600 ever be nominated for both Best Cinematography and Best Director 147 00:08:28.639 --> 00:08:32.080 for a Drama Series in the same year. Her cinematography 148 00:08:32.159 --> 00:08:35.440 nomination is for the episode Hello mis Kobel. She did 149 00:08:35.440 --> 00:08:39.440 act as her own cinematographer on this episode as well. 150 00:08:39.720 --> 00:08:42.120 After all of the hype, you'd figure nothing can live 151 00:08:42.240 --> 00:08:45.559 up to that, right, I don't agree. I consider this 152 00:08:45.639 --> 00:08:48.559 episode to be just as good as everyone says it is. 153 00:08:48.720 --> 00:08:51.480 It's a standout for the season and the series. It 154 00:08:51.679 --> 00:08:54.519 just might be my favorite of all time. Volunteer Research 155 00:08:54.519 --> 00:08:57.639 of NNP still considers the finale of season one as 156 00:08:57.720 --> 00:09:00.159 his favorite ep of the series, but he's got this 157 00:09:00.200 --> 00:09:03.240 one listed is a very close second. So if you're ready, Refiner, 158 00:09:03.360 --> 00:09:07.799 it's time to open the incredibly cool file called Cheekai Bardo. 159 00:09:09.080 --> 00:09:11.720 We open on the back of a woman's head. She's 160 00:09:11.840 --> 00:09:15.039 walking briskly through a college campus. We're following along with 161 00:09:15.080 --> 00:09:18.080 a handheld shot. The woman is Deechin Lockman, playing the 162 00:09:18.159 --> 00:09:21.399 character of Gemma. We never get a last name, just Gemma. 163 00:09:21.600 --> 00:09:24.039 The campus is supposed to be Gan's College in the 164 00:09:24.080 --> 00:09:28.519 state or province or territory of Pe, where she works 165 00:09:28.559 --> 00:09:31.679 as

a professor of Russian lit. The campus is actually 166 00:09:31.679 --> 00:09:34.600 the Nassau Community College in Garden City, Long Island. It 167 00:09:34.679 --> 00:09:37.360 was built in the nineteen sixties and seventies, so it 168 00:09:37.440 --> 00:09:41.399 features a great mix of brutalist and mid century architecture. 169 00:09:41.559 --> 00:09:44.879 It's a perfect match for everything else in Pe. We 170 00:09:44.919 --> 00:09:47.840 reverse to Jemma's face. She pushes back a lock of 171 00:09:47.919 --> 00:09:50.759 black hair. This is a professor, but she has a 172 00:09:50.799 --> 00:09:53.919 youthful look about her. She almost blends in with the students. 173 00:09:54.000 --> 00:09:56.519 Gemma has an expression that says she might be a 174 00:09:56.559 --> 00:10:00.399 bit overworked. This episode is going to be very Gemma heavy. 175 00:10:00.559 --> 00:10:02.679 We see her in flashbacks as her love affair with 176 00:10:02.759 --> 00:10:05.879 Mark Scout Rose. Plus, we're going to see her extensively 177 00:10:06.000 --> 00:10:09.639 down on the testing floor Deechen Lackman is everywhere in 178 00:10:09.679 --> 00:10:12.519 this episode, which was a total shock when she found out. 179 00:10:12.759 --> 00:10:15.559 She told Vulture. As the s two scripts started coming in, 180 00:10:15.720 --> 00:10:19.600 she was getting concerned. Mss Casey slish. Gemma was appearing 181 00:10:19.600 --> 00:10:22.440 in almost every episode, but not for more than a 182 00:10:22.480 --> 00:10:26.600 flash or a frame. She didn't have any lines. Deechen 183 00:10:26.720 --> 00:10:30.159 was thinking, did I do something wrong? Then Dan Erickson 184 00:10:30.240 --> 00:10:32.360 let her know how the Gemma's story was going to 185 00:10:32.399 --> 00:10:34.720 play out at the end of the season. Deechin said 186 00:10:34.720 --> 00:10:37.679 this sudden reversal of fortune was exciting, but at the 187 00:10:37.720 --> 00:10:40.200 same time a lot of pressure. She didn't want to 188 00:10:40.240 --> 00:10:43.600 let severans fans down. Meeting Gemma is something we've been 189 00:10:43.679 --> 00:10:46.840 building to for a long time. We know so much 190 00:10:46.879 --> 00:10:49.720 about her, but most of it has come through Mark's 191 00:10:49.759 --> 00:10:52.799 recall of their relationship. This is the first time we've 192 00:10:52.840 --> 00:10:55.879 had a chance to see Gemma on her own without 193 00:10:55.879 --> 00:10:59.840 the rose colored filter of Mark's memory. Speaking of rose 194 00:11:00.039 --> 00:11:03.200 colored filter, are you noticing a different quality to these 195 00:11:03.200 --> 00:11:06.759 shots when compared to the rest of the series. Hopefully 196 00:11:06.799 --> 00:11:09.679 you are, because a lot of time, effort, and budget 197 00:11:09.799 --> 00:11:13.080 was expended getting this look. These flashback scenes are being 198 00:11:13.120 --> 00:11:16.200 shot on film. Most TV productions. Even a lot of 199 00:11:16.240 --> 00:11:19.840 movie productions have made the move to high quality digital 200 00:11:19.960 --> 00:11:24.279 video for primary shooting. Film is quickly becoming a relic 201 00:11:24.320 --> 00:11:27.399 of the past. We'll get into the differences between film 202 00:11:27.480 --> 00:11:30.120 and video in just a minute. Right now, you need 203 00:11:30.159 --> 00:11:33.240 to grab another cup of coffee. Refiner Severed will be 204 00:11:33.480 --> 00:11:39.600 right back. Hey, this is Ben Stiller. Thanks for listening 205 00:11:39.600 --> 00:11:44.600 to Severed, the Ultimate Severance Podcast. For nearly one hundred years, 206 00:11:44.639 --> 00:11:47.279 the movies and a lot of TV shows were shot 207 00:11:47.480 --> 00:11:50.919 on film. In the early aughts, high quality digital video 208 00:11:51.000 --> 00:11:54.960 became a serious quality contender. Once directors and camera people 209 00:11:55.000 --> 00:11:58.039 were convinced of the quality and reliability of digital, a 210 00:11:58.080 --> 00:12:01.559 lot of productions moved away from film. There are a 211 00:12:01.639 --> 00:12:05.519 lot of negatives pun intended to shooting on film. First 212 00:12:05.519 --> 00:12:09.559 and foremost, film is expensive. It's not just an upfront 213 00:12:09.559 --> 00:12:12.799 cost either. Digital cameras can be expensive, but they're a 214 00:12:12.919 --> 00:12:17.240 one time cost. Stock and processing fees pile up for 215 00:12:17.480 --> 00:12:21.480 every minute shot on film. It's also hard to work with. 216 00:12:21.639 --> 00:12:23.200 You can run out of a film reel in the 217 00:12:23.200 --> 00:12:25.679 middle of a take. You can't see what you've shot 218 00:12:25.720 --> 00:12:28.919 on film until it's been processed. Anyone with knowledge of 219 00:12:28.960 --> 00:12:32.879 the cinematography of film is almost considered a high priest 220 00:12:32.919 --> 00:12:37.159 in the black arts. Yes, film does look cool and nostalgic, 221 00:12:37.240 --> 00:12:40.480 but the long list of negatives outweighs the positives. For 222 00:12:40.559 --> 00:12:43.879 most productions, there is a graininess and warmth to film. 223 00:12:44.000 --> 00:12:47.360 Some directors claim you can't duplicate on video, even with 224 00:12:47.639 --> 00:12:51.360 filters and enhancements. All of Severin's who shot on high 225 00:12:51.440 --> 00:12:55.000 quality digital video cameras. It's all we've been looking at 226 00:12:55.039 --> 00:12:58.360 for fifteen episodes. Now. I think throwing film into the 227 00:12:58.360 --> 00:13:01.360 mix for the flashbacks was a great choice. It does 228 00:13:01.440 --> 00:13:04.519 give us this nostalgic look at the happy couple, kind 229 00:13:04.519 --> 00:13:07.720 of like home movies. An aerial overview of the quad 230 00:13:07.759 --> 00:13:11.080 shows us how busy the Gan's college campus is. The 231 00:13:11.200 --> 00:13:14.840 drone shot also acts as a transition into the library. 232

00:13:15.039 --> 00:13:18.919 There's a cut to bearded history professor Mark Scout flipping 233 00:13:18.960 --> 00:13:22.360 through some papers. Would you check that facial hair? Adam 234 00:13:22.399 --> 00:13:24.600 Scott said the hair on his head was pretty much 235 00:13:24.639 --> 00:13:28.720 always his throughout these flashbacks, the facial hair was almost 236 00:13:28.759 --> 00:13:32.000 always phony. Adam can grow a nice beard and quickly, 237 00:13:32.039 --> 00:13:34.440 but not so fast as to have one ready for 238 00:13:34.600 --> 00:13:37.879 each of these various flashback scenes. The faux hair he's 239 00:13:37.919 --> 00:13:41.799 wearing was created by Academy Award winning makeup artist Judy Chen. 240 00:13:42.240 --> 00:13:46.080 How good is this fake beard? Detchen Lackman shot with 241 00:13:46.120 --> 00:13:49.320 Adam all day for these scenes and never knew it 242 00:13:49.480 --> 00:13:53.200 wasn't real. It's not a hair appliance that get stuck 243 00:13:53.240 --> 00:13:55.559 on his face. We'll see some of those with doctor 244 00:13:55.600 --> 00:13:57.960 Mauer down on the testing floor. What Judy did for 245 00:13:58.039 --> 00:14:01.360 Mark is a far more tedious price, says. Each hair 246 00:14:01.639 --> 00:14:05.279 was added to Adam's face individually. You've got to stick 247 00:14:05.320 --> 00:14:07.799 them on one at a time in order to achieve 248 00:14:07.879 --> 00:14:11.000 that realistic look. Mark has the cap of a red 249 00:14:11.039 --> 00:14:13.240 pen in his mouth as he shuffles through a huge 250 00:14:13.240 --> 00:14:15.679 pile of loose paper. The long shot gives us a 251 00:14:15.679 --> 00:14:18.879 better idea what's going on here. The Gan's College Library 252 00:14:18.919 --> 00:14:21.879 has been turned into a blood drive donation area. A 253 00:14:21.960 --> 00:14:24.639 line of chase recliners has been set up to make 254 00:14:24.679 --> 00:14:27.480 donations comfortable. The woman we met on the quad is 255 00:14:27.519 --> 00:14:30.320 being set up in the chase right next to Mark. 256 00:14:30.480 --> 00:14:33.840 As Mark continues shuffling papers, he does a double take. 257 00:14:34.000 --> 00:14:36.840 The studious professor Scout has just noticed the woman in 258 00:14:36.919 --> 00:14:42.360 the seat next to him is very attractive, thanks and polite. 259 00:14:42.759 --> 00:14:44.879 There's a cut to a wide shot of the room. 260 00:14:44.960 --> 00:14:47.000 The up angle allows us to see the banner in 261 00:14:47.039 --> 00:14:50.600 the rafters. It says donate blood in large letters. Next 262 00:14:50.639 --> 00:14:53.840 to that it says Gan's College Annual Blood Drive. See 263 00:14:53.840 --> 00:14:56.960 the white haired male blood drive worker in the background. 264 00:14:57.080 --> 00:14:59.519 None of our blood drive folks is officially listed in 265 00:14:59.559 --> 00:15:03.080 the cat but Daniel Siffiletti has added himself to the 266 00:15:03.120 --> 00:15:06.440

cast list as an uncredited blood drive worker, and I 267 00:15:06.480 --> 00:15:09.879 think that's him. Out of curiosity, I clicked on Daniel's 268 00:15:09.919 --> 00:15:13.759 name to see his IMDb profile. Sometimes background people like 269 00:15:13.799 --> 00:15:17.159 this will have other recognizable roles in their resume. I'm 270 00:15:17.200 --> 00:15:20.360 glad I checked on Daniel because he has the most 271 00:15:20.480 --> 00:15:24.799 bizarre IMDb listing of any performer I think I've ever seen. 272 00:15:25.120 --> 00:15:28.440 Daniel lists twenty six credits dating back to two thousand 273 00:15:28.480 --> 00:15:31.639 and five, where he was an uncredited refugee in the 274 00:15:31.679 --> 00:15:34.600 Tom Cruise remake of War of the Worlds. Although he's 275 00:15:34.639 --> 00:15:38.039 been doing this for twenty years, most of Daniel's credits 276 00:15:38.039 --> 00:15:42.080 are from twenty twenty four and twenty five. Every credit 277 00:15:42.120 --> 00:15:46.240 on Daniel's profile except for one, is shown as uncredited. 278 00:15:46.320 --> 00:15:48.600 He was identified as a juror in a twenty twenty 279 00:15:48.600 --> 00:15:51.600 four episode of the series Kill or Be Killed. Aside 280 00:15:51.600 --> 00:15:55.360 from that, Daniel is showing twenty five entries for performances 281 00:15:55.399 --> 00:15:58.080 in movies and TV shows where he was not in 282 00:15:58.120 --> 00:16:01.519 the official cast list but did appear as an extra. 283 00:16:01.840 --> 00:16:06.559 In Daniel's bio, he acknowledges he is a background character actor. 284 00:16:06.919 --> 00:16:09.679 It's his thing. He claims to love blending into the 285 00:16:09.679 --> 00:16:14.279 background and creating authentic characters. I say, go, Daniel, we 286 00:16:14.360 --> 00:16:17.159 need background players just as much as we need stars. 287 00:16:17.480 --> 00:16:20.759 The bearded and disarming doctor Scout can't help but try 288 00:16:20.799 --> 00:16:23.879 to strike up a conversation with the lovely woman sitting 289 00:16:23.879 --> 00:16:24.480 next to him. 290 00:16:24.559 --> 00:16:26.039 What do you get there? 291 00:16:26.320 --> 00:16:29.000 So maybe he's not the most silver tongue devil, but 292 00:16:29.000 --> 00:16:31.759 I give him credit for being brave enough to say anything. 293 00:16:31.960 --> 00:16:35.639 She is gorgeous, so he wasn't strong out of the gate. 294 00:16:35.759 --> 00:16:39.120 It sounds like Mark had to get some conversational momentum going. 295 00:16:39.360 --> 00:16:42.879 He tries again, Sorry, what do you got there? Really? 296 00:16:43.159 --> 00:16:46.759 That's your second attempt. Thankfully, Jemma is not annoyed by 297 00:16:46.759 --> 00:16:49.840 this somewhat shy gentleman who is also giving blood. How 298 00:16:49.879 --> 00:16:52.080 creepy could he be he's a blood donor. 299 00:16:52.879 --> 00:16:57.519 Themes of religious conversion in Tulsoy's The Death of Yvan Jet. 300 00:16:57.559 -->

00:17:00.919 Something light for the beach. Mark is pretty with his comeback. 301 00:17:01.000 --> 00:17:03.080 Oh my god, spoiler please. 302 00:17:03.039 --> 00:17:05.119 I guess when it comes to the charm he needed 303 00:17:05.119 --> 00:17:08.160 to get warmed up the title Jemma mentioned. The Death 304 00:17:08.160 --> 00:17:11.640 of Ivan Ilyitch is a novel by Russian author Leo Tolstoy. 305 00:17:11.839 --> 00:17:16.039 It's considered a masterpiece of Tolstoy's later fiction. It's also 306 00:17:16.079 --> 00:17:19.559 considered one of the finest examples of a novella ever written. 307 00:17:19.799 --> 00:17:23.000 He wrote it in eighteen eighty six, shortly after he 308 00:17:23.079 --> 00:17:26.559 had experienced a religious conversion. In nineteen ninety seven, the 309 00:17:26.599 --> 00:17:31.039 psychologist Mark Friedman offered an observation regarding Ivan Ilyitch. This 310 00:17:31.200 --> 00:17:34.079 is a different Mark Friedman than the one who wrote 311 00:17:34.160 --> 00:17:37.240 the episode. This one spells his name with an ee R. 312 00:17:37.359 --> 00:17:42.160 Scriptwriter uses ie so anyway, ee Friedman said, the Death 313 00:17:42.200 --> 00:17:45.799 of Ivan Ilioch quote is about the consequences of living 314 00:17:45.839 --> 00:17:49.319 without meaning, that is, without a true and abiding connection 315 00:17:49.599 --> 00:17:52.640 to one's life. Interesting that someone who is about to 316 00:17:52.640 --> 00:17:55.599 be taken so far out of her life is reading 317 00:17:55.640 --> 00:17:58.440 about this book. It was creaky at first, but Mark 318 00:17:58.519 --> 00:18:02.279 may have successfully launched conversation with this lovely woman. 319 00:18:02.440 --> 00:18:03.079 What about you? 320 00:18:03.160 --> 00:18:04.359 Mark fumbles a bit. 321 00:18:04.720 --> 00:18:06.039 Oh god, this is a real treat. 322 00:18:06.160 --> 00:18:08.720 He's flipping through papers, trying to get to the title 323 00:18:08.759 --> 00:18:10.160 page of a student's theme. 324 00:18:10.119 --> 00:18:14.799 All quiet on the Western blunt drug use by enlisted 325 00:18:14.839 --> 00:18:16.319 soldiers during World War One. 326 00:18:16.480 --> 00:18:18.720 Gemma smiles. She tells him to stop it. 327 00:18:18.839 --> 00:18:20.079 No, that's what it is. 328 00:18:20.200 --> 00:18:22.440 It is pretty funny. What a great way to tie 329 00:18:22.480 --> 00:18:24.759 your personal hobbies into your history assignment. 330 00:18:24.839 --> 00:18:27.119 It's a genius. You should flunk every other child. 331 00:18:27.160 --> 00:18:28.000 I couldn't agree more. 332 00:18:28.799 --> 00:18:31.039 They both have a laugh and pause for a deeper 333 00:18:31.079 --> 00:18:34.480 look at each other. It's like Mark just truly noticed her. 334 00:18:34.720 --> 00:18:38.240 Patron refiner kat R pointed out here that Mark fell 335 00:18:38.319 --> 00:18:40.839 back on his standard opening question. 336 00:18:40.640 --> 00:18:41.759 I'm sorry, who

are you? 337 00:18:42.119 --> 00:18:44.400 Yeah? And what's your phone number? And where do you live? 338 00:18:44.480 --> 00:18:46.480 And whatever other information I can get out of you 339 00:18:46.519 --> 00:18:49.400 while you are still in this flirty good mood. She's 340 00:18:49.640 --> 00:18:53.960 not super forthcoming with the deats, Gemma, but hey, it's 341 00:18:53.960 --> 00:18:56.640 a start. She offers a hand, but Mark is tied 342 00:18:56.720 --> 00:18:59.519 up with the blood paraphernalia as he tries to free 343 00:18:59.519 --> 00:19:03.000 at least one of his hands. Notice his watch. Mark 344 00:19:03.119 --> 00:19:06.079 wears his watch on his right hand because he is 345 00:19:06.240 --> 00:19:09.200 a lefty. Mark is a lefty because the actor Adam 346 00:19:09.240 --> 00:19:12.559 Scott is naturally left handed. Oh and a quick aside, 347 00:19:12.640 --> 00:19:15.920 did you know there's a world class golfer also named 348 00:19:16.000 --> 00:19:19.240 Adam Scott? I did not. When I asked Google if 349 00:19:19.240 --> 00:19:21.559 Adam Scott was left handed, I was told he plays 350 00:19:21.559 --> 00:19:24.240 golf left handed, even though he is naturally right handed. 351 00:19:24.400 --> 00:19:27.319 This left me confused. What do I care how Adam 352 00:19:27.440 --> 00:19:30.480 golf's I couldn't get the answer I was wanting until 353 00:19:30.480 --> 00:19:34.599 I amended my search to specify the actor Adam Scott 354 00:19:34.799 --> 00:19:38.759 volunteer research of NYP and I are also both left handed. 355 00:19:38.880 --> 00:19:41.680 We discussed this wearing your watch on the other hand thing. 356 00:19:41.839 --> 00:19:44.240 Then he said someone told him in high school that's 357 00:19:44.279 --> 00:19:47.119 how left handed people do it, so he started wearing 358 00:19:47.160 --> 00:19:50.480 his watch on his non dominant hand. Adam Scott must 359 00:19:50.480 --> 00:19:52.799 have been given the same kind of watch wearing advice. 360 00:19:53.079 --> 00:19:55.720 I never had anyone tell me, so I continued wearing 361 00:19:55.759 --> 00:19:59.720 my wristwatch on my left wrist, where it's easiest to use. 362 00:20:00.119 --> 00:20:03.680 You might not realize it, but almost all wristwatches are 363 00:20:03.680 --> 00:20:06.440 made for right handed people. The stem is always on 364 00:20:06.480 --> 00:20:08.680 the right side, like a lot of people. Since I 365 00:20:08.720 --> 00:20:11.839 started carrying my phone with me everywhere, I don't wear 366 00:20:11.920 --> 00:20:15.319 a wristwatch anymore. I haven't for years. Finny's the same way. 367 00:20:15.519 --> 00:20:19.400 Since wristwatches are an important part of a severed worker's wardrobe, 368 00:20:19.519 --> 00:20:22.000 Adam has chosen to wear Mark's watch the way it 369 00:20:22.039 --> 00:20:26.440 feels most natural for his leftiness on his non dominant wrist. 370 00:20:26.720 --> 00:20:29.240 Mark finally frees himself enough to shake hands.

371 00:20:29.599 --> 00:20:29.839 Mark. 372 00:20:31.799 --> 00:20:33.640 Nice to meet you, Mark, you too. 373 00:20:34.119 --> 00:20:37.880 Wow, this is going very well. They are both all smiles. 374 00:20:38.119 --> 00:20:40.920 As the introductions continue. There's a cut to close up. 375 00:20:41.039 --> 00:20:43.759 We're looking at one of the small plastic hoses delivering 376 00:20:43.799 --> 00:20:46.559 blood to the vacutainers. This hose is snaking over a 377 00:20:46.640 --> 00:20:49.440 round chrome piece of equipment. A RAQ focus brings this 378 00:20:49.519 --> 00:20:52.559 chrome piece into view. On the side. Stamped into the 379 00:20:52.559 --> 00:20:56.359 metal is a droplet. It's clearly the same droplet we 380 00:20:56.400 --> 00:21:00.480 see in the Lumen logo. This means Lumen made this equipment. 381 00:21:00.759 --> 00:21:03.680 Just making the stuff isn't a problem, but a lot 382 00:21:03.720 --> 00:21:06.000 of viewers had the sense this was a blood drive 383 00:21:06.079 --> 00:21:09.079 being run by Luman. If Luman is using the blood 384 00:21:09.119 --> 00:21:12.039 drive as a cover for their own purposes. It becomes 385 00:21:12.119 --> 00:21:16.319 far more nefarious. Is Luman searching for someone specific to 386 00:21:16.519 --> 00:21:20.480 use in their testing? Could they be reviewing blood samples 387 00:21:20.480 --> 00:21:24.920 in a search for their perfect testing floor subject or subjects. 388 00:21:25.200 --> 00:21:28.200 We're never told for certain how Gemma was selected, or 389 00:21:28.279 --> 00:21:30.920 if she was the only one selected for whatever it 390 00:21:30.960 --> 00:21:33.880 is that's happening to her. That's why this blood screening 391 00:21:33.920 --> 00:21:36.279 and what it means is still a hot topic with 392 00:21:36.359 --> 00:21:38.599 a lot of people. There's a hard cut to a white, 393 00:21:38.720 --> 00:21:42.000 nondescript frame. The camera starts a pan to the right. 394 00:21:42.240 --> 00:21:45.400 Blurred out stray hairs become visible from the right of frame. 395 00:21:45.599 --> 00:21:48.200 They allow for a sense of movement in the pan. Finally, 396 00:21:48.200 --> 00:21:52.039 we're looking at someone's eyes. It's Gemma, but not the happy, 397 00:21:52.160 --> 00:21:55.039 relaxed Gemma we just met at the library. This Gemma 398 00:21:55.240 --> 00:21:58.759 is haunted and depressed. Her eyes are fixed and staring. 399 00:21:59.119 --> 00:22:01.039 We crossed as own to a close up of a 400 00:22:01.079 --> 00:22:04.319 hand inserting a blood collection needle into somebody's arm. This 401 00:22:04.480 --> 00:22:07.839 shot got dinged in the goose section of IMDb. According 402 00:22:07.880 --> 00:22:10.680 to the post, that needle isn't merely far enough into 403 00:22:10.720 --> 00:22:14.039 her arm. A continuing cross dissolve takes us from blood 404 00:22:14.039 --> 00:22:16.839 flowing through another piece of tubing, much like what we 405 00:22:16.920 --> 00:22:19.799 saw during the blood drive. Revealed to the left of frame. 406 00:22:19.839 --> 00:22:23.160 As the camera continues to pan, we see Gemma seated 407 00:22:23.200 --> 00:22:25.839 in a chair. This is not care free Gemma of 408 00:22:25.880 --> 00:22:29.079 the Gang's campus. This Gemma is docile in a mint 409 00:22:29.079 --> 00:22:32.599 green body suit. Her eyes are fixed and staring. Everything 410 00:22:32.640 --> 00:22:35.920 about her expression and body language says this is a 411 00:22:35.960 --> 00:22:39.039 person who has lost hope. She's sitting in a chair 412 00:22:39.079 --> 00:22:41.960 in an exam room on the testing floor. You'd think 413 00:22:42.000 --> 00:22:45.480 something as simple as this lounge suit Gemma's wearing would 414 00:22:45.480 --> 00:22:49.119 be an easy get for wardrobe. Right, Oh if only 415 00:22:49.400 --> 00:22:52.359 Alice b, the head tailor on Severance, explained it's the 416 00:22:52.440 --> 00:22:56.240 simple costumes that are the hardest. Alice's job is to 417 00:22:56.279 --> 00:22:59.400 take the designs created by Sarah Edwards and turn them 418 00:22:59.440 --> 00:23:03.200 into reaction. Alice says, these simple outfits don't leave any 419 00:23:03.319 --> 00:23:06.160 room for error. You can't cover up a mistake with 420 00:23:06.200 --> 00:23:09.079 a bow or a belt. Gemma's mint green lounge suit 421 00:23:09.119 --> 00:23:12.160 is a great example. Getting it to this casually elegant 422 00:23:12.200 --> 00:23:15.519 state was a huge job. This suit started out as 423 00:23:15.720 --> 00:23:18.440 undyed virgin wool. It was sent out to be dyed 424 00:23:18.519 --> 00:23:22.440 mint green. That dye job did not produce the desired results. 425 00:23:22.559 --> 00:23:26.160 Alice turned to their in house aging and dying expert, Catalina. 426 00:23:26.279 --> 00:23:31.160 It are all day. Catalina's listed crew job is ager slashder. 427 00:23:31.440 --> 00:23:34.680 She found the right color for the fabric and redyed it. 428 00:23:34.920 --> 00:23:37.920 Then it was set out to be manufactured. What came 429 00:23:38.000 --> 00:23:41.440 back was too big and shapeless. Alice said, it most 430 00:23:41.440 --> 00:23:45.160 certainly did not exude a severance vibe. I don't know 431 00:23:45.200 --> 00:23:48.079 why they waste time with these outside vendors. They wind 432 00:23:48.160 --> 00:23:51.880 up redoing everything in house. Anyway, Alice took the incorrectly 433 00:23:51.960 --> 00:23:54.839 sized suit apart, reblocked it on a dress form, and 434 00:23:55.039 --> 00:23:58.759 made it what costume designer Sarah Edwards had intended all along. 435 00:23:59.039 --> 00:24:01.519 Alice said it took a couple of fittings with Deechin, 436 00:24:01.720 --> 00:24:05.119 but since Jemma spends so much camera time in this suit, 437 00:24:05.279 --> 00:24:08.000 getting it to fit perfectly was worth it. As the 438 00:24:08.039 --> 00:24:10.400 camera pans further to the left, we can see a 439

00:24:10.480 --> 00:24:14.559 nurse tending to Jemma. She's collecting blood samples. Whatever is 440 00:24:14.680 --> 00:24:18.000 happening with Jemma and her interaction with the testing floor. 441 00:24:18.240 --> 00:24:22.880 The measurable results of this interaction are somehow contained in 442 00:24:23.039 --> 00:24:26.640 her blood. Well, talk more about blood retrieval and meeting 443 00:24:26.680 --> 00:24:29.759 our testing floor nurse in just a minute. Refiner, right now, 444 00:24:29.839 --> 00:24:32.599 you need to go wash your hands. Severed will be 445 00:24:32.839 --> 00:24:36.559 right back. Hi. 446 00:24:36.680 --> 00:24:40.480 I'm Adam Scott. I play mark s on Severance, which 447 00:24:40.759 --> 00:24:44.160 you likely already know since you're listening to sever the 448 00:24:44.319 --> 00:24:45.960 Ultimate Severance Podcast. 449 00:24:47.839 --> 00:24:51.519 Let's talk blood collection, shall we? Volunteer researcher Vinnie P 450 00:24:51.680 --> 00:24:53.839 and I both knew we were out of our element 451 00:24:53.880 --> 00:24:57.559 when it came to proper methodology for blood collection. Vinnie 452 00:24:57.640 --> 00:25:01.519 consulted nurse refiner Carrie Age for some According to Nurse Kerry, 453 00:25:01.640 --> 00:25:05.079 our testing floor nurse here is not doing much right 454 00:25:05.240 --> 00:25:09.319 according to AMA guidelines. With all the hand sanitizer bottles 455 00:25:09.359 --> 00:25:11.759 lined up outside O and D, you'd think they could 456 00:25:11.799 --> 00:25:15.160 do a little hand hygiene before blood collection. Nope, none 457 00:25:15.160 --> 00:25:17.759 that we could see. At least. Nurse Carrey also would 458 00:25:17.799 --> 00:25:20.240 like to see some gloves on our testing floor nurse's 459 00:25:20.319 --> 00:25:23.759 bare hands. Contrary to what you might consider logical, these 460 00:25:23.799 --> 00:25:27.000 gloves do not need to be sterile. They only need 461 00:25:27.039 --> 00:25:30.559 to provide a barrier between patient and nurse. After retrieving 462 00:25:30.559 --> 00:25:33.079 the sample, the needle should go in a sharp's collection bin, 463 00:25:33.279 --> 00:25:36.640 and of course more hand hygiene. Nurse Carey says those 464 00:25:36.720 --> 00:25:40.200 clear vials that collect the blood are called blood collection 465 00:25:40.400 --> 00:25:44.240 tubes or other generic names. The receiver the blood collection 466 00:25:44.319 --> 00:25:48.480 tube is inserted into is called a vacutainer. Surprisingly, the 467 00:25:48.559 --> 00:25:52.400 vacutainer we're seeing on screen is not a lumin branded item. 468 00:25:52.599 --> 00:25:56.200 It was produced by the Becton Dickinson medical device company. 469 00:25:56.319 --> 00:25:59.720 You can see the BD on the side of the vacutainer. Becton, 470 00:25:59.720 --> 00:26:02.759 dick and Sin has been producing medical equipment in Franklin Lakes, 471 00:26:02.799 --> 00:26:07.440 New Jersey since eighteen ninety seven. The vacutainers usually contain 472 00:26:07.599 --> 00:26:11.119 a preservative. Also, in a real hospital, the colored bands 473 00:26:11.119 --> 00:26:14.400 on the collection tubes have meaning. Different tubes are used 474 00:26:14.400 --> 00:26:17.640 for different procedures or tests. There's an over the shoulder 475 00:26:17.680 --> 00:26:20.319 shot that allows us to see the face of Gemma's 476 00:26:20.400 --> 00:26:25.160 nurse clearly for the first time. This is legendary actress, singer, comedian, 477 00:26:25.359 --> 00:26:29.400 and author Sandra Bernhardt. Ms Bernhard just turned seventy years 478 00:26:29.400 --> 00:26:31.799 old in June of twenty twenty five. She's had an 479 00:26:31.839 --> 00:26:34.920 amazing career with one hundred and one credits that covered 480 00:26:34.960 --> 00:26:38.359 dozens of episodes of TV. Her first television appearance was 481 00:26:38.400 --> 00:26:42.640 as an uncredited extra in nineteen seventy seven's Richard Pryor Show. 482 00:26:42.920 --> 00:26:46.160 Most of Sandrew's performance credits are on TV, but for me, 483 00:26:46.440 --> 00:26:49.559 her signature role was in the nineteen eighty two movie 484 00:26:49.799 --> 00:26:53.480 King of Comedy. Deechin Lackman said Sandra on set was 485 00:26:53.480 --> 00:26:56.720 a calming presence. She brought incredible warmth to the role, 486 00:26:57.000 --> 00:27:00.880 even though she was playing both Captor and gold Titchen 487 00:27:00.960 --> 00:27:04.440 said there was almost a motherly field to miss Bernard's performance, 488 00:27:04.599 --> 00:27:07.680 even though it's cold, controlled and oppressive down there on 489 00:27:07.799 --> 00:27:13.559 the testing floor, Where did you go? Jemma blinks as 490 00:27:13.599 --> 00:27:16.039 though she's waking up. She looks over at her nurse 491 00:27:16.079 --> 00:27:18.920 and gives her a wan smile. The scene dissolves to 492 00:27:18.960 --> 00:27:22.559 a flashback. Gemma is recalling an intimate moment with doctor Scout. 493 00:27:22.680 --> 00:27:26.079 It's a lazy morning in bed. There's a bridge transition 494 00:27:26.200 --> 00:27:29.200 here that draws us into another timeline. We see a 495 00:27:29.200 --> 00:27:32.319 close up of Jemma's eyes, then there's a closeup of 496 00:27:32.440 --> 00:27:35.839 Mark's eyes. There's a transition in the closeup of Mark's 497 00:27:35.839 --> 00:27:38.920 eyes changes. Now there's a light shining in one of 498 00:27:38.920 --> 00:27:42.160 his eyes. It scans off the eyeball, then back the 499 00:27:42.359 --> 00:27:45.440 cut to a wide shot reveals Regaby, Devon, and Mark 500 00:27:45.680 --> 00:27:49.240 in Mark's living room. Regaby and Devn have somehow wrestled 501 00:27:49.279 --> 00:27:53.440 an unconscious Mark up onto his sad orange couch. We've 502 00:27:53.640 --> 00:27:57.119 now visited the three timelines we'll be following in this episode. 503 00:27:57.160 --> 00:27:59.920 We're tracking the Mark and Gemma love affair

from the path. 504 00:28:00.200 --> 00:28:03.000 We're watching Devon and Regabi, who are tending to an 505 00:28:03.079 --> 00:28:06.240 unconscious Mark in his living room in the present. Finally, 506 00:28:06.279 --> 00:28:11.000 there's the Testing Floor Gemma timeline. It's taking place somewhere 507 00:28:11.000 --> 00:28:14.559 between after the car accident and current time, although it 508 00:28:14.640 --> 00:28:17.759 seems to be loaded towards more recent events. Both the 509 00:28:17.839 --> 00:28:21.359 love affair and Testing Floor timelines take jumps forward from 510 00:28:21.359 --> 00:28:24.279 one major event to the next. Devin is standing behind 511 00:28:24.279 --> 00:28:27.359 the couch, looking worried. Regabi is kneeling down next to 512 00:28:27.440 --> 00:28:30.599 Mark with a small flashlight. She's checking from Mark's pupil 513 00:28:30.640 --> 00:28:34.759 reaction to light oa with no vital signs and no 514 00:28:34.960 --> 00:28:37.759 other way to monitor how he's doing. I don't know 515 00:28:37.839 --> 00:28:40.440 if she can really make that statement with confidence. He 516 00:28:40.519 --> 00:28:42.240 does not look good and. 517 00:28:42.279 --> 00:28:44.240 There might be some deficits. 518 00:28:44.079 --> 00:28:46.240 Which is just below. He's not gonna make it on 519 00:28:46.279 --> 00:28:48.000 the top ten list of things you don't want to 520 00:28:48.039 --> 00:28:49.000 hear from your doctor. 521 00:28:49.200 --> 00:28:50.680 Hopefully nothing long term. 522 00:28:50.720 --> 00:28:54.119 Hopefully. Devin is curious about something and I have the 523 00:28:54.119 --> 00:28:54.799 same question. 524 00:28:55.000 --> 00:28:55.720 Are you a doctor? 525 00:28:56.119 --> 00:28:59.559 Yeah, Asaul, what exactly are you? You seem to know 526 00:28:59.640 --> 00:29:01.519 what you're doing doing with a severance chip, but I'm 527 00:29:01.559 --> 00:29:05.839 worried about your overall patient care regimen. Jamming large needles 528 00:29:05.880 --> 00:29:09.200 into the brain freehand, doing brain surgery in a dirty 529 00:29:09.240 --> 00:29:12.079 and poorly lit basement, none of it, screams I'm a 530 00:29:12.119 --> 00:29:15.079 doctor who knows what I'm doing, So how about it? Regaby? 531 00:29:15.240 --> 00:29:17.920 We know you're some kind of severance chip engineer, but 532 00:29:18.400 --> 00:29:22.039 are you a doctor? She doesn't answer. This causes me 533 00:29:22.160 --> 00:29:25.279 great concern. She silently holds up one finger. 534 00:29:25.359 --> 00:29:26.440 Do we need an ambulance? 535 00:29:26.640 --> 00:29:30.720 Regaby doesn't answer. She does like to play the silent sage. 536 00:29:30.960 --> 00:29:33.640 Devon isn't putting up with her mystical behavior. 537 00:29:33.799 --> 00:29:35.559 Can you answer one of my questions? Please? 538 00:29:35.680 --> 00:29:38.880 Devin asks again, if they need an ambulance. I like 539 00:29:38.960 --> 00:29:42.279 Devon's instincts. It's time for medical professionals who don't measure 540 00:29:42.319 --> 00:29:46.079 the tempers to step in. Although this is Keir. Who 541 00:29:46.119 --> 00:29:49.319 knows what brand of medicine they practice around here. Regabi 542 00:29:49.440 --> 00:29:53.119 not surprisingly says no to the ambulance. She probably doesn't 543 00:29:53.160 --> 00:29:55.000 want to raise a red flag for anyone who might 544 00:29:55.039 --> 00:29:58.000 be watching. I think it would be hard to explain 545 00:29:58.119 --> 00:30:01.039 to an ambulance crew what's going going on with Mark. 546 00:30:01.119 --> 00:30:02.400 He's going to sleep for a while. 547 00:30:02.599 --> 00:30:04.440 Oh, come on, I could have told you that. 548 00:30:04.799 --> 00:30:05.640 Okay, how long? 549 00:30:05.880 --> 00:30:08.200 Yeah, let's get some detail here. How long will he 550 00:30:08.319 --> 00:30:08.759 be out? 551 00:30:08.960 --> 00:30:09.599 Hard to say? 552 00:30:09.759 --> 00:30:13.559 Regaby can be maddening sometimes she's like a magic eight ball. 553 00:30:13.799 --> 00:30:15.039 Is it going to rain today? 554 00:30:15.200 --> 00:30:15.759 Hard to say? 555 00:30:15.960 --> 00:30:18.880 Regaby says they're going to need some equipment from downstairs. 556 00:30:18.960 --> 00:30:19.720 Are you clumsy? 557 00:30:19.799 --> 00:30:22.319 Devin wants to know why this weird and mystical person 558 00:30:22.400 --> 00:30:24.279 has equipment in Mark's basement. 559 00:30:24.400 --> 00:30:25.720 Your brother's reintegrating. 560 00:30:25.920 --> 00:30:28.119 This is news to Devin. Last she knew he was 561 00:30:28.160 --> 00:30:31.039 trying to blind himself with a floodlight. No, he's not. 562 00:30:31.359 --> 00:30:34.160 Her reaction is exactly why Mark failed to mention it 563 00:30:34.240 --> 00:30:37.759 on the phone yesterday or was that this morning? Devin 564 00:30:37.960 --> 00:30:41.200 is adamant about putting a stop to this reintegration nonsense. 565 00:30:41.319 --> 00:30:44.759 She acknowledges Regaby is probably a lot smarter than she is. 566 00:30:44.920 --> 00:30:47.279 But she wants to make something very clear here. 567 00:30:47.359 --> 00:30:49.759 If you give one solitary thought to messing with my 568 00:30:49.839 --> 00:30:52.400 brother again, I will throw you off a fucking bridge. 569 00:30:52.480 --> 00:30:56.519 That was pretty clear. Regabby grimaces a bit at this statement. 570 00:30:56.119 --> 00:30:57.519 Devan, we don't do that again. 571 00:30:57.599 --> 00:31:00.839 I don't think again. Is the worry? What she's done 572 00:31:00.960 --> 00:31:04.200 already should be your concern. This also seems to be 573 00:31:04.240 --> 00:31:05.079 Regabby's thought. 574 00:31:05.160 --> 00:31:06.079 Well, disgust it later. 575 00:31:06.759 --> 00:31:09.640 No, it's settled, fucking law, lady, Okay. 576 00:31:09.400 --> 00:31:11.039 As Devin made herself quite. 577 00:31:10.920 --> 00:31:13.400 Clear, just accept it the end. 578 00:31:13.720 --> 00:31:16.119

I'm really surprised these two are taking the time to 579 00:31:16.359 --> 00:31:20.839 argue over Mark's unconscious body. That's what he wants, Devin says, No, 580 00:31:21.079 --> 00:31:23.799 what he really wants is to know whether Gemma's alive 581 00:31:24.039 --> 00:31:26.759 or not. He doesn't want somebody taking an egg beater. 582 00:31:26.759 --> 00:31:29.279 He to his brain. Oh, hey, would you listen to that. 583 00:31:29.440 --> 00:31:31.720 I'm doing my own egg references. I may have been 584 00:31:31.759 --> 00:31:35.000 hanging around lumin too long. Regabby cuts off Devin's statement 585 00:31:35.000 --> 00:31:37.119 about whether Gemma is alive or not. 586 00:31:37.319 --> 00:31:37.680 She is. 587 00:31:38.039 --> 00:31:39.599 This causes Devon to. 588 00:31:39.640 --> 00:31:41.160 Pause, Please don't mess with me. 589 00:31:41.319 --> 00:31:44.000 Oh she's not. I've seen her Gemma is alive and 590 00:31:44.039 --> 00:31:47.119 she's down on the testing floor. Gobby says it again 591 00:31:47.160 --> 00:31:48.079 with conviction. 592 00:31:48.000 --> 00:31:49.920 She is alive. 593 00:31:50.200 --> 00:31:53.559 Regabby is done with this conversation. She abruptly heads off 594 00:31:53.559 --> 00:31:55.960 to the basement to retrieve her equipment. Devin is left 595 00:31:55.960 --> 00:31:58.759 standing by the said orange couch, wondering if she should 596 00:31:58.759 --> 00:32:02.119 be trusting this woman with her brother's life. She's also 597 00:32:02.160 --> 00:32:05.480 wondering if she should believe that Gemma is alive. Devon 598 00:32:05.599 --> 00:32:07.319 is forced to take a knee under the weight of 599 00:32:07.319 --> 00:32:09.559 it all. We kiss Black that are launched into the 600 00:32:09.680 --> 00:32:14.000 extra wag animation with Theodore Shapiro theme music Enjoy Refiner. 601 00:32:14.119 --> 00:32:29.559 We'll check back in with Gemma on the other side. 602 00:32:30.319 --> 00:32:32.559 Coming up from Black after the opening credits, we see 603 00:32:32.559 --> 00:32:35.640 a hand holding an infrared thermometer. This is our testing 604 00:32:35.720 --> 00:32:40.559 floor nurse using a Conair Infrared forehead Thermometer Model ITH 605 00:32:40.720 --> 00:32:44.440 ninety one. There are a lot of infrared thermometers out there. 606 00:32:44.480 --> 00:32:47.759 Most of them have a triggered gun look to them. Also, 607 00:32:47.920 --> 00:32:51.160 they aren't just for health issues. Infrared thermometers can monitor 608 00:32:51.200 --> 00:32:54.279 everything from engine manifold tempts to a fry pan on 609 00:32:54.319 --> 00:32:57.400 the stove. Many of them are industrial with holsters and 610 00:32:57.480 --> 00:33:01.000 soft cases designed to prevent breakage. This one works the 611 00:33:01.039 --> 00:33:03.839 same as those others, but it's been made specifically for 612 00:33:03.960 --> 00:33:06.680 use on a patient's forehead. It also has a large, 613 00:33:06.720 --> 00:33:10.359 oversized LED

readout, which is great for low light situations 614 00:33:10.440 --> 00:33:13.640 like in patient rooms. This is a commercially available product, 615 00:33:13.720 --> 00:33:16.720 rated for both home and professional use. You can find 616 00:33:16.720 --> 00:33:19.599 the Conair ITH ninety one on eBay for anywhere from 617 00:33:19.599 --> 00:33:22.519 ten to fifteen dollars. It may be out of production 618 00:33:22.680 --> 00:33:25.920 because I could not find this particular model on Amazon. 619 00:33:26.119 --> 00:33:27.759 I did find the same unit on a couple of 620 00:33:27.759 --> 00:33:31.680 medical equipment specialty sites for as much as fifty dollars each. 621 00:33:31.960 --> 00:33:34.279 The Home Shopping Network had a two pack of this 622 00:33:34.359 --> 00:33:37.559 item for ninety dollars, so forty five dollars each. Beware 623 00:33:37.599 --> 00:33:39.599 if you're shopping for one of these things, don't get 624 00:33:39.680 --> 00:33:43.720 ripped off. Gemma is registering a low but acceptable ninety 625 00:33:43.759 --> 00:33:47.000 seven point six degrees fahrenheit. The old ninety eight point 626 00:33:47.000 --> 00:33:50.920 six degrees standard for human temperature is no longer the benchmark. 627 00:33:51.039 --> 00:33:53.160 The ninety eight point six number was set by a 628 00:33:53.200 --> 00:33:56.640 German physician all the way back in eighteen fifty one. 629 00:33:56.920 --> 00:34:00.599 It's an average he developed based on hundreds of patient measurements. 630 00:34:00.720 --> 00:34:04.000 These days, doctors say humans are cooling down. Thanks to 631 00:34:04.079 --> 00:34:06.720 various factors. We have less inflammation in our bodies than 632 00:34:06.720 --> 00:34:10.159 ever in history. This translates to lower body temperatures. The 633 00:34:10.360 --> 00:34:13.599 commonly accepted range for a healthy human temperature is now 634 00:34:13.760 --> 00:34:16.519 ninety seven point two degrees on the low end, up 635 00:34:16.519 --> 00:34:19.360 to ninety eight point four degrees on the high end. 636 00:34:19.440 --> 00:34:22.440 The old ninety eight point six standard is now a 637 00:34:22.480 --> 00:34:26.000 low grade fever. More close ups. The nurse opens a drawer, 638 00:34:26.039 --> 00:34:30.360 revealing a white stethoscope and a white sphigmomanometer. The close 639 00:34:30.440 --> 00:34:32.960 up on the blood pressure gage reveals a lumin logo. 640 00:34:33.079 --> 00:34:35.960 Of course, it looks like we're in an exam room. 641 00:34:36.119 --> 00:34:39.440 On the testing floor. Gemma moves over to the scale. 642 00:34:39.480 --> 00:34:42.000 She's standing with her back to the camera. As she's weighed, 643 00:34:42.079 --> 00:34:44.079 we can see a couple of eye charts on the 644 00:34:44.199 --> 00:34:46.960 wall to the right of the scale. The one on 645 00:34:47.039 --> 00:34:49.519 the left looks like what you'd expect to find in 646 00:34:49.559 --> 00:34:52.559 an optometrous office. It has the big E on top 647 00:34:52.679 --> 00:34:57.079 than FP than TZ. The one on the right is 648 00:34:57.320 --> 00:35:00.400 new to me. The big E chart is called a 649 00:35:00.480 --> 00:35:03.559 Snellen chart. They've been used by eye doctors since Dutch 650 00:35:03.599 --> 00:35:08.039 eye doctor Hermann Snellen invented this chart in eighteen sixty two. 651 00:35:08.360 --> 00:35:11.039 Patients read the chart from twenty feet away. If you 652 00:35:11.039 --> 00:35:13.760 can read the chart clearly down to the twenty line, 653 00:35:14.000 --> 00:35:17.320 this means you have perfect twenty twenty vision. Outside of 654 00:35:17.360 --> 00:35:20.440 the US, it's known as six to six vision because 655 00:35:20.480 --> 00:35:23.760 the equivalent distance is six meters. The chart to the 656 00:35:23.840 --> 00:35:27.360 right of the big E chart doesn't have any letters 657 00:35:27.440 --> 00:35:30.599 on it. It's laid out like a standard Snellen chart, 658 00:35:30.639 --> 00:35:33.880 but instead of letters, this one contains the silhouette of 659 00:35:33.920 --> 00:35:37.800 a baby goat at each spot where you'd find a letter. 660 00:35:37.960 --> 00:35:40.800 As you move down the chart, the goats get smaller. 661 00:35:41.000 --> 00:35:43.599 The goats are all rotated, with their legs pointing in 662 00:35:43.679 --> 00:35:47.440 different directions. Volunteer research of NNYP and I were stumped 663 00:35:47.480 --> 00:35:51.400 by this goat chart, but patron refiner William A recognized 664 00:35:51.440 --> 00:35:54.000 it right off. This goat chart is a riff on 665 00:35:54.079 --> 00:35:58.239 another Snellen chart. He called it the Tumbling E. Snellen's 666 00:35:58.280 --> 00:36:01.320 version turns the legs of the big E in different directions, 667 00:36:01.519 --> 00:36:03.599 and they get smaller as you go down the chart. 668 00:36:03.760 --> 00:36:06.880 He created this alternate charts to small children or illiterate 669 00:36:06.960 --> 00:36:10.159 adults could be tested. The patient doesn't even need to 670 00:36:10.199 --> 00:36:13.079 know left versus right. They could just point in the 671 00:36:13.079 --> 00:36:16.079 direction each letter is facing. The chart test isn't about 672 00:36:16.079 --> 00:36:18.880 whether you know the alphabet, It's about whether you can see. 673 00:36:18.920 --> 00:36:21.239 In Snellen's time, he would have dealt with a lot 674 00:36:21.239 --> 00:36:24.199 of illiterate patients. I'm guessing this lumin variation of the 675 00:36:24.199 --> 00:36:27.280 tumbling each chart exists because many of those folks we 676 00:36:27.360 --> 00:36:30.440 met working in the goat department are illiterate. This does 677 00:36:30.559 --> 00:36:33.039 raise the question, when are any of the goat people 678 00:36:33.119 --> 00:36:36.760 making their way to this exam room. This ritual of 679 00:36:36.800 --> 00:36:40.360 examination continues, a drawer is opened and close up inside 680 00:36:40.400

--> 00:36:43.800 this drawer is a lumin specific creation. This is a 681 00:36:43.960 --> 00:36:46.400 woe meter. You will not find a woe meter for 682 00:36:46.440 --> 00:36:48.800 sale at your local Walgreens or right Aid. Neither will 683 00:36:48.840 --> 00:36:52.920 you encounter any health professionals in any hospital or clinic 684 00:36:53.039 --> 00:36:56.239 who have access to a woe meter. We'll discuss how 685 00:36:56.239 --> 00:36:58.440 you create a piece of medical equipment out of thin 686 00:36:58.519 --> 00:37:00.400 air in just a moment. Right now, now here's a 687 00:37:00.440 --> 00:37:03.559 vending machine. Token refiner severed will be right back. 688 00:37:06.800 --> 00:37:10.760 This is Mark Geller kier Egan on Severance. When I 689 00:37:10.800 --> 00:37:14.480 want to hear the latest details about the company I founded, 690 00:37:14.960 --> 00:37:18.599 I listened to Severed, the Ultimate Severance Podcast. 691 00:37:20.400 --> 00:37:22.840 So how does one go about creating a piece of 692 00:37:22.880 --> 00:37:27.079 medical equipment that doesn't exist? This is where professionalism meets magic. 693 00:37:27.159 --> 00:37:29.880 Production designer Jeremy Hindle called in Catherine Miller and her 694 00:37:29.920 --> 00:37:32.760 props team to make this thing a reality. First up 695 00:37:32.920 --> 00:37:35.280 meet with the creative team and production crew, it was 696 00:37:35.400 --> 00:37:39.400 necessary to determine just what a woe meter does. They 697 00:37:39.440 --> 00:37:41.719 were also wanting a rough description of what it should 698 00:37:41.760 --> 00:37:44.840 look like. Also, this one is really important. How is 699 00:37:44.880 --> 00:37:47.760 the woe meter going to be used on camera? If 700 00:37:47.800 --> 00:37:50.519 it really has to do something that's quite a bit 701 00:37:50.519 --> 00:37:53.400 different than leaving one sitting on a shelf. After pinning 702 00:37:53.440 --> 00:37:55.599 down the creatives on a look for the woe meter, 703 00:37:55.840 --> 00:37:58.559 it was time to turn those descriptions over to Severance 704 00:37:58.639 --> 00:38:03.159 concept artist Eric Felberg. Eric created some cool looking woe 705 00:38:03.159 --> 00:38:06.199 meter designs. Once they were approved by the creative team, 706 00:38:06.360 --> 00:38:10.719 those designs were handed over to specialty fabrication house Make three. 707 00:38:11.159 --> 00:38:15.199 Make three took Felberg's illustrations and translated them to CAD 708 00:38:15.280 --> 00:38:18.559 and three D modeling. Programs. What Make three fabricated is 709 00:38:18.599 --> 00:38:22.639 this gorgeous, sleek, retro looking medical device. The main body 710 00:38:22.719 --> 00:38:26.400 was milled out of aluminum. The side caps are solid titanium. 711 00:38:26.440 --> 00:38:31.119 This unit was designed for precision and flexibility. It really 712 00:38:31.199 --> 00:38:34.360 does register things with the needles and count things with 713 00:38:34.400 --> 00:38:37.440 the LEDs. The functions are wireless, so the woe meter 714 00:38:37.559 --> 00:38:40.480 can be activated remotely when it's on camera. It has 715 00:38:40.519 --> 00:38:44.360 a seven segment vintage LED display. There are even multiple 716 00:38:44.400 --> 00:38:47.960 custom programmed motion options for the needles, depending on what 717 00:38:48.039 --> 00:38:50.280 you want them to do during a scene. A performer 718 00:38:50.320 --> 00:38:53.320 really can turn it on and off. Every knob and 719 00:38:53.400 --> 00:38:56.360 switch is functional. They all have a retro cool look 720 00:38:56.440 --> 00:38:59.519 because the knobs and switches were salvaged from an eighties 721 00:38:59.599 --> 00:39:03.039 era in naugraa four D audio recorder. I take a 722 00:39:03.159 --> 00:39:06.800 fence at a description calling this recorder vintage. I remember 723 00:39:06.840 --> 00:39:09.559 reading reviews of this thing in stereo magazines when it 724 00:39:09.599 --> 00:39:13.039 first came out. The original version of the lumin woe 725 00:39:13.079 --> 00:39:17.440 meter produced by Make three included a clear anodized aluminum finish. 726 00:39:17.639 --> 00:39:21.719 Shortly before delivery, director Jessica Iganie decided this needed to 727 00:39:21.840 --> 00:39:24.800 be changed so it would blend with the esthetic of 728 00:39:24.840 --> 00:39:27.880 the testing floor. She wanted a uniform look for the 729 00:39:27.920 --> 00:39:31.800 device in light green. Of course, Make three powder coated 730 00:39:31.840 --> 00:39:35.400 the entire shell and sides to match the production aesthetic. 731 00:39:35.840 --> 00:39:40.320 Just how insanely detailed is Make three When it comes 732 00:39:40.360 --> 00:39:45.599 to on screen fabrication, they should probably be committed. For example, 733 00:39:45.639 --> 00:39:48.440 inside this Woe meter there's a small circuit board will 734 00:39:48.599 --> 00:39:51.559 never see. Printed on the circuit board is a lumen 735 00:39:51.599 --> 00:39:55.920 logo along with the words Woe Meter and Severance Season two. 736 00:39:56.280 --> 00:39:59.480 If it didn't say Severance Season two on it, this 737 00:39:59.599 --> 00:40:03.920 device would really confuse future archaeologists. Hopefully they'll figure out 738 00:40:03.960 --> 00:40:06.519 it was created for a TV show. I'm curious as 739 00:40:06.559 --> 00:40:09.360 to why Woe is the temper that seems to get 740 00:40:09.440 --> 00:40:12.079 all the attention here. We're looking at a Woe meter. 741 00:40:12.320 --> 00:40:15.559 We've been to Woe's hollow, we even met Woe herself 742 00:40:15.559 --> 00:40:19.840 in Earth's dream. Where is the frolic meter? Where's dread 743 00:40:19.920 --> 00:40:23.480 point or the malice lagoon? Woe seems to be somehow 744 00:40:23.480 --> 00:40:26.920 more important than the other tempers. I wonder if this 745 00:40:27.079 --> 00:40:30.800 is intentional or just a coincidence. Jemma

is handed the 746 00:40:30.840 --> 00:40:34.519 two sensors used by the Woe meter. They look like smooth, 747 00:40:34.559 --> 00:40:37.480 greenish rocks about four inches across. One is held in 748 00:40:37.480 --> 00:40:40.440 each hand. During the test, the nurse is quizzing Gemma 749 00:40:40.559 --> 00:40:46.480 as we watch the woe meter get fired up today. Yes, Wow, 750 00:40:46.519 --> 00:40:48.480 doesn't that thing look cool on camera? 751 00:40:48.800 --> 00:40:49.840 Then you're reading. 752 00:40:51.360 --> 00:40:52.239 Fifty pages? 753 00:40:53.000 --> 00:40:55.679 What is she reading? The books in her apartment seem 754 00:40:55.719 --> 00:40:58.480 to be titles from her old life. Maybe she's being 755 00:40:58.519 --> 00:41:01.000 forced to read the handbook. There's a great two shot 756 00:41:01.039 --> 00:41:03.519 of Gemma and her nurse In the background. You can 757 00:41:03.559 --> 00:41:06.239 see the sink and vanity in this exam room. Check 758 00:41:06.280 --> 00:41:09.400 the white sink and fixtures, which fit in beautifully with 759 00:41:09.480 --> 00:41:13.480 the white countertops and drawers. The nurse continues. 760 00:41:12.880 --> 00:41:14.840 Her quiz calistatics. 761 00:41:16.119 --> 00:41:19.159 Yes, they do keep Jemma busy down here on the 762 00:41:19.199 --> 00:41:22.360 testing floor, don't they. The nurse dials up the intensity 763 00:41:22.440 --> 00:41:25.159 of the questions. I know this because the shot goes 764 00:41:25.159 --> 00:41:27.679 in tighter on her face as she asks them. We 765 00:41:27.760 --> 00:41:30.679 get theoretical if you were caught in a mud slide, 766 00:41:31.079 --> 00:41:36.119 would you be more afraid of suffocating for drowning? First 767 00:41:36.119 --> 00:41:38.239 time I heard this, I thought, aren't they kind of 768 00:41:38.280 --> 00:41:40.639 the same thing. I did a bit of research to 769 00:41:40.719 --> 00:41:44.159 parse out the differences. It's a Venn diagram. All drownings 770 00:41:44.159 --> 00:41:48.360 are suffocations, but not all suffocations are drownings. Both kill 771 00:41:48.400 --> 00:41:50.880 you by cutting off your oxygen supply. In the case 772 00:41:50.920 --> 00:41:53.880 of suffocation, this could be due to anything, whether you're 773 00:41:54.000 --> 00:41:56.639 strangled by an enemy or you get your head stuck 774 00:41:56.679 --> 00:41:59.000 in a dry cleaning bag. If you die due to 775 00:41:59.079 --> 00:42:02.280 a lack of oxygen, that is suffocation. If you die 776 00:42:02.400 --> 00:42:05.159 due to a lack of oxygen caused by inhaling water 777 00:42:05.480 --> 00:42:08.599 or being submerged in water, that's a special type of 778 00:42:08.599 --> 00:42:12.719 suffocation called drowning. What is the importance? A lot of 779 00:42:12.800 --> 00:42:15.719 viewers thought this question referenced the trials of Helena and 780 00:42:15.760 --> 00:42:19.480 Helly R. When she attempted suicide by hanging, that was suffocation. 781 00:42:19.679 --> 00:42:22.079 When she was attacked by IRV at woes Hollow, that 782 00:42:22.480 --> 00:42:26.280 was drowning. Why these questions apply to Jemma is a mystery. 783 00:42:26.440 --> 00:42:29.239 Some theorists believe the term cold harbor, used for both 784 00:42:29.280 --> 00:42:32.719 the filename and the room, was alluding to death. The 785 00:42:32.719 --> 00:42:36.360 theories say these questions about death were narrowing down what 786 00:42:36.400 --> 00:42:39.960 would actually happen to Gemma When she entered the cold 787 00:42:40.000 --> 00:42:44.199 Harbor room. Gemma pauses briefly. Her reaction indicates she may 788 00:42:44.239 --> 00:42:48.599 have heard this question before drowning. The nerves is watching 789 00:42:48.679 --> 00:42:51.440 the woe meter. Drowning elicits a big movement out of 790 00:42:51.440 --> 00:42:54.440 the needles. It also looks like she pegged intensity on 791 00:42:54.480 --> 00:42:56.719 the left side. In the wide shot, we can see 792 00:42:56.719 --> 00:42:58.840 a couple of cool pieces of set deck. Here in 793 00:42:58.880 --> 00:43:00.880 this exam room a nurse who is sitting in a 794 00:43:00.920 --> 00:43:04.760 vintage Siemens seronas wovel chair. This heavy duty unit was 795 00:43:04.760 --> 00:43:07.719 built in West Germany. It was designed specifically for the 796 00:43:07.760 --> 00:43:12.159 medical profession starting back in the nineteen sixties. It's extremely rugged, 797 00:43:12.199 --> 00:43:15.719 with a steel frame and five swivel casters in the base. 798 00:43:15.960 --> 00:43:18.320 You can still find these in use and clinics in 799 00:43:18.400 --> 00:43:22.039 the US. The website mid Age Vintage lists a beige 800 00:43:22.119 --> 00:43:24.639 version of this chair in good condition, priced at nine 801 00:43:24.760 --> 00:43:27.679 hundred and fifty dollars. Jemma is sitting in our first 802 00:43:27.679 --> 00:43:31.800 piece from Deeter Rams. Rams was a famously influential German 803 00:43:31.880 --> 00:43:36.280 industrial designer. He's credited with leading consumer products company Braun 804 00:43:36.400 --> 00:43:39.400 to the forefront of cutting edge electronics design in the 805 00:43:39.480 --> 00:43:41.559 nineteen sixties. We're going to see one of his most 806 00:43:41.559 --> 00:43:44.840 famous pieces, a wall mounted stereo system. When we get 807 00:43:44.880 --> 00:43:48.079 to Jemma's apartment. Rams would become head of design at 808 00:43:48.119 --> 00:43:51.360 Braun starting in nineteen sixty one. He held this position 809 00:43:51.480 --> 00:43:54.280 until he retired in nineteen ninety seven at the age 810 00:43:54.280 --> 00:43:57.679 of sixty five. And yes, Rams is still alive at 811 00:43:57.679 --> 00:44:01.239 the time of this recording, He's currently ninety three years old. 812 00:44:01.400 --> 00:44:04.440 Based on Gerald Luss and Dieter Rams, it sounds like 813 00:44:04.519 --> 00:44:09.119 designers lived some long lives. Rams

design edict was less 814 00:44:09.440 --> 00:44:12.800 but better Deeter Rams, who's had a significant influence on 815 00:44:12.880 --> 00:44:17.199 modern design as well as twentieth century esthetics and culture. 816 00:44:17.519 --> 00:44:20.159 The chair Gem is sitting in is called the six 817 00:44:20.320 --> 00:44:23.960 twenty chair program. Rams was thirty years old when he 818 00:44:24.039 --> 00:44:27.079 designed this chair in nineteen sixty two. It's made using 819 00:44:27.119 --> 00:44:31.159 a combination of traditional upholstery materials and techniques married together 820 00:44:31.360 --> 00:44:34.480 with what we're pioneering materials at the time. This is 821 00:44:34.519 --> 00:44:38.000 a chair without compromise. It was designed to be incredibly 822 00:44:38.039 --> 00:44:41.840 comfortable and so durable it will outlast its owner. Instead 823 00:44:41.840 --> 00:44:44.280 of foam, the material in the seat pads is a 824 00:44:44.320 --> 00:44:47.960 type of shredded coconut husk that's been used for centuries. 825 00:44:48.079 --> 00:44:51.239 This material is so durable and long lasting. It's the 826 00:44:51.280 --> 00:44:54.360 same stuff they use in the storage of spent nuclear 827 00:44:54.440 --> 00:44:57.920 fuel rods. Rams actually has three of these chairs in 828 00:44:58.039 --> 00:45:01.039 his home in Cronberg, Germany. It is a two seater, 829 00:45:01.079 --> 00:45:04.119 which is really just two of the six twenties joined together. 830 00:45:04.320 --> 00:45:07.559 The chair was made to be modular. One high end 831 00:45:07.599 --> 00:45:10.320 furniture dealer called it a lego kit for grown ups. 832 00:45:10.559 --> 00:45:13.840 A three seater six to twenty program sofa is just 833 00:45:14.000 --> 00:45:17.599 three of the six twenty chairs joined together. They're elegantly 834 00:45:17.679 --> 00:45:21.320 designed so you can unbolt arms and add seats easily. 835 00:45:21.559 --> 00:45:24.800 Since the six twenty is so modular, it's easy to 836 00:45:24.880 --> 00:45:28.760 move in and out of places like upstairs apartments. Vitsu 837 00:45:28.920 --> 00:45:33.000 Furniture has reintroduced the original nineteen sixty two design of 838 00:45:33.079 --> 00:45:36.079 the six twenty. They also have parts and pieces for 839 00:45:36.280 --> 00:45:39.559 six twenty program chair owners. Since this chair is a 840 00:45:39.599 --> 00:45:42.639 significant investment that can easily last fifty years or more, 841 00:45:42.880 --> 00:45:45.800 it's important to be able to get parts or replace 842 00:45:46.000 --> 00:45:48.920 upholstery if you'd like to purchase a new six to 843 00:45:49.000 --> 00:45:52.239 twenty program chair of your very own. Vitsu has the 844 00:45:52.320 --> 00:45:56.440 original nineteen sixty two design available starting at three three 845 00:45:56.559 --> 00:46:01.840 hundred and forty dollars per unit. Gemma is passive and compliant. 846 00:46:01.960 --> 00:46:04.559 The nurse juts down some notes on a chart. 847 00:46:04.719 --> 00:46:05.880 How many rooms today? 848 00:46:06.199 --> 00:46:09.760 We don't know what she's asking here just yet, six 849 00:46:10.320 --> 00:46:13.559 we're going to discover. Gemma's days are filled with visits 850 00:46:13.599 --> 00:46:16.400 to various rooms on the testing floor. Each one of 851 00:46:16.480 --> 00:46:19.679 these rooms includes a severed barrier at the entrance. Gemma 852 00:46:19.719 --> 00:46:22.400 has been outfitted with what can only be described as 853 00:46:22.440 --> 00:46:25.320 a hybrid severance chip. When she passes through one of 854 00:46:25.360 --> 00:46:28.199 the doorway barriers, she has switched over to an any 855 00:46:28.360 --> 00:46:32.239 that exists for that room only. This chip is like 856 00:46:32.400 --> 00:46:36.159 nothing we've ever seen before, but it builds on technology 857 00:46:36.199 --> 00:46:39.599 we're already familiar with. After hearing the room count j Gemma 858 00:46:39.840 --> 00:46:42.440 sighs and gets out of the six twenty chair. The 859 00:46:42.559 --> 00:46:45.199 exam room is part of a living space. Gemma walks 860 00:46:45.239 --> 00:46:48.400 past a vanity, a built in twin bed, a shower, 861 00:46:48.559 --> 00:46:51.440 and various cabinet and shelving units. This appears to be 862 00:46:51.679 --> 00:46:55.119 what Gemma calls home. Gemma steps to a back wall 863 00:46:55.199 --> 00:46:58.599 and opens a closet door. A red sleeveless dress is 864 00:46:58.599 --> 00:47:02.039 hanging there. Shoes, a blackwig, a purse, and other accessories 865 00:47:02.039 --> 00:47:04.559 designed to finish the look are sitting on a shelf. 866 00:47:04.599 --> 00:47:07.639 Below the dress. We get a glimpse of another piece 867 00:47:07.760 --> 00:47:10.679 of set deck in this shot with the closet. This 868 00:47:10.880 --> 00:47:13.599 item caused a lot of people to lose their minds. 869 00:47:13.880 --> 00:47:16.320 It's the round piece with the mirror on top of it, 870 00:47:16.400 --> 00:47:19.159 sitting just right of the center of frame. That's the 871 00:47:19.280 --> 00:47:24.159 Dilly Dally vanity, designed by Luigi Massoni for Italian furniture 872 00:47:24.199 --> 00:47:28.480 brand Pultrona Frau. That Dilly Dally is highly prized by 873 00:47:28.519 --> 00:47:32.280 collectors because it offers a unique level of functionality in 874 00:47:32.360 --> 00:47:36.360 a compact and cool design. The barrel shaped Dilly Dally 875 00:47:36.480 --> 00:47:39.559 includes a built in chair with leather upholstery. That table 876 00:47:39.559 --> 00:47:42.880 and chair fit together elegantly to create a unique space 877 00:47:42.920 --> 00:47:47.039 saving design. Both chair and vanity include casters so you 878 00:47:47.039 --> 00:47:50.039 can roll the unit into position before using it. There's 879 00:47:50.119 --> 00:47:52.960 storage under the folded down mirror. If you'd like to 880 00:47:53.000 --> 00:47:55.519 add the Dilly

Dally to your bedroom or dressing room, 881 00:47:55.679 --> 00:47:59.880 get ready to pay for it. Design enthusiasts love these things, 882 00:48:00.000 --> 00:48:02.760 and the demand drives up the price. A used one 883 00:48:02.800 --> 00:48:06.039 in good condition is currently being offered by interior design 884 00:48:06.119 --> 00:48:10.159 reseller cherish dot com for eleven thousand, five hundred and 885 00:48:10.280 --> 00:48:14.199 ninety four dollars. Cherish knows the market. They'd never ask 886 00:48:14.320 --> 00:48:16.519 that price if they didn't think they could get it. 887 00:48:16.760 --> 00:48:20.440 The shot reverses to Jemma's face. She is expressionless at 888 00:48:20.480 --> 00:48:23.920 first while looking at the red dress, than under her breath. 889 00:48:24.800 --> 00:48:25.119 Shit. 890 00:48:26.280 --> 00:48:28.400 The first time we all saw this episode, we had 891 00:48:28.400 --> 00:48:32.159 no idea why she'd have this reaction to this outfit. 892 00:48:32.360 --> 00:48:34.320 Now that we've seen how the testing floor works, it's 893 00:48:34.320 --> 00:48:37.719 more understandable. She knows what outfit goes with what room. 894 00:48:37.960 --> 00:48:40.719 Some rooms on this floor have a specific outfit she's 895 00:48:40.760 --> 00:48:44.039 expected to wear when she enters the room. She has 896 00:48:44.199 --> 00:48:46.639 no idea what goes on in the room, but she 897 00:48:46.760 --> 00:48:49.480 knows how she feels after she gets out. This red 898 00:48:49.519 --> 00:48:52.519 dress is her Wellington outfit. I don't want to spoil 899 00:48:52.559 --> 00:48:55.679 the surprise, but Wellington is no fun. I'll tell you 900 00:48:55.719 --> 00:48:57.559 more about it when we get there. We cut to 901 00:48:57.599 --> 00:49:01.039 Gemma's kitchenette slice living room space. Look on the wall 902 00:49:01.119 --> 00:49:03.960 to the right during the establishing shot. That is a 903 00:49:04.039 --> 00:49:07.960 Deeter Rams design for a very cool wall mounted stereo system. 904 00:49:08.079 --> 00:49:09.960 We'll see it again a little later in the day. 905 00:49:10.079 --> 00:49:12.400 We can talk about it then. Right now, I'd rather 906 00:49:12.480 --> 00:49:15.280 get out to the rooms We've got six to get 907 00:49:15.280 --> 00:49:18.320 to today. Jemma, now dressed in the outfit from the closet, 908 00:49:18.480 --> 00:49:20.920 enters the room from the far door. She looks like 909 00:49:20.960 --> 00:49:24.480 a stereotypical housewife from the nineteen sixties who is heading 910 00:49:24.519 --> 00:49:27.559 out to run some errands. Her expression is just as 911 00:49:27.599 --> 00:49:30.960 grim as when she first found the dress. She's in 912 00:49:31.039 --> 00:49:34.400 every piece of the closet outfit, including the black wig 913 00:49:34.559 --> 00:49:37.559 and small purse over her left shoulder. Jemma stops at 914 00:49:37.599 --> 00:49:40.119 the exit door. Pushing a button on a control panel 915

00:49:40.239 --> 00:49:42.639 causes the door to pop open out in the hall. 916 00:49:42.800 --> 00:49:45.559 Her nurse is waiting for her as we move out 917 00:49:45.559 --> 00:49:48.679 into the hall. A big welcome to you, Refiner. This 918 00:49:48.719 --> 00:49:52.039 is our first time as viewers to be on the 919 00:49:52.079 --> 00:49:55.760 testing floor. This is an entirely new set. It had 920 00:49:55.800 --> 00:49:58.440 to be different than the Severed Floor, but it also 921 00:49:58.519 --> 00:50:01.679 had to retain the lumin esthetic. Jeremy Hindele knows a 922 00:50:01.719 --> 00:50:04.800 little something about creating lumen hallways. He did a pretty 923 00:50:04.840 --> 00:50:08.360 impressive job last season when he created the Severed Floor. 924 00:50:08.519 --> 00:50:11.320 It's no surprise he was instrumental in the creation of 925 00:50:11.360 --> 00:50:14.199 the testing floor. At first, there was a discussion about 926 00:50:14.239 --> 00:50:18.320 making this floor dark and dank. Upon further reflection, everyone 927 00:50:18.360 --> 00:50:21.039 came to their senses and realized Lumen would never do 928 00:50:21.400 --> 00:50:24.000 dark and dank. They like to make their hauls in 929 00:50:24.039 --> 00:50:27.239 common spaces look bright and clean. It tells the world 930 00:50:27.400 --> 00:50:31.559 everything is fine. The vibes might be dark and dank 931 00:50:31.679 --> 00:50:34.280 to the point of rot and evil, but the actual 932 00:50:34.320 --> 00:50:38.599 hallways are always polished, pristine, and brightly lit. Hindal and 933 00:50:38.639 --> 00:50:40.840 his crew had a blank canvas when it came to 934 00:50:40.960 --> 00:50:44.280 building the testing floor Gemmis Suite, which we just left. 935 00:50:44.440 --> 00:50:47.679 This hallway and the Allentown Room were all built on 936 00:50:47.760 --> 00:50:51.599 one twenty five thousand square foot soundstage. Three other testing 937 00:50:51.639 --> 00:50:55.880 floor rooms, the control room, the Dentis's office aka Wellington, 938 00:50:56.079 --> 00:50:59.519 and the Airplane Room or Drainsville, were built on a 939 00:50:59.599 --> 00:51:03.280 second twenty five thousand square foot stage. Extended hallways and 940 00:51:03.360 --> 00:51:07.280 additional rooms were added via CGI. You know what's really 941 00:51:07.320 --> 00:51:10.519 weird about this set, I'll tell you after you go 942 00:51:10.639 --> 00:51:13.760 wash your hands, refiner. Severed will be right back. 943 00:51:16.920 --> 00:51:22.440 Hello, Refiners, It's Mark keller ker Egan on Severance. Don't 944 00:51:22.480 --> 00:51:26.360 let your dreary, dead end job get you down. Do 945 00:51:26.480 --> 00:51:29.840 what I do for a workday, pick me up. Listen 946 00:51:29.880 --> 00:51:33.000 to Severed. The Ultimate Severance Podcast. 947 00:51:34.519 --> 00:51:38.480 Okay, so what is really weird about this set? Look up, 948 00:51:38.800 --> 00:51:41.960 see that ceiling. Normally you don't see ceilings on TV. 949 00:51:42.280 --> 00:51:45.719 Most television sound stages don't even make a provision for ceilings. 950 00:51:45.800 --> 00:51:48.840 Think about Jerry Seinfeld's apartment or Monica and Rachel's place 951 00:51:48.880 --> 00:51:52.480 on Friends. You've never seen a ceiling either place. The 952 00:51:52.719 --> 00:51:56.000 general consensus is if you don't see them, why build them. 953 00:51:56.119 --> 00:51:58.639 They also get in the way of the light grid. 954 00:51:58.840 --> 00:52:01.280 Jeremy Hindle told the hollywo Reporter he is a hard 955 00:52:01.360 --> 00:52:04.880 disagree when it comes to ceilings. He admits creating ceilings 956 00:52:04.920 --> 00:52:07.760 and a light grid is a bit of a fire hazard. Okay, 957 00:52:07.760 --> 00:52:10.840 it's a huge fire hazard, but Jeremy doesn't care. Hindal 958 00:52:10.920 --> 00:52:13.239 says the only way a room can be properly lit 959 00:52:13.480 --> 00:52:16.840 is if it has a ceiling. He attributes the very 960 00:52:16.840 --> 00:52:20.519 physical feeling of the show too ceilings. Ceilings can make 961 00:52:20.559 --> 00:52:23.480 a set feel like it's a real place. Ceilings also 962 00:52:23.480 --> 00:52:26.639 add to a feeling of claustrophobia in the series. This 963 00:52:26.800 --> 00:52:30.119 is another positive in Hindel's mind. Hindal is a big 964 00:52:30.199 --> 00:52:32.719 picture thinker when it comes to the design of the 965 00:52:32.760 --> 00:52:36.000 major sets. He says the testing floor is a prison 966 00:52:36.199 --> 00:52:40.159 slash medical facility. It was designed accordingly. He also refers 967 00:52:40.199 --> 00:52:42.599 to it as a kind of a spaceship, with hallways 968 00:52:42.639 --> 00:52:45.559 and rooms like what you'd find on the Enterprise or 969 00:52:45.639 --> 00:52:48.480 the Nostromo in the Alien movies. The white hallways and 970 00:52:48.599 --> 00:52:52.159 lighted low ceilings in Stanley Kubrick's Discovery One from two 971 00:52:52.239 --> 00:52:55.800 thousand and one, A Space Odyssey We're also a huge inspiration. 972 00:52:56.119 --> 00:52:58.960 Hindal has even said this whole set was intended to 973 00:52:59.000 --> 00:53:03.559 be very Kubrician as homage to the influential film director. 974 00:53:04.000 --> 00:53:06.400 You can see the aggressive angles in the hall as 975 00:53:06.480 --> 00:53:09.800 Gemma and her nurse walk away. These rooms were designed 976 00:53:09.920 --> 00:53:13.760 on a triangle. The doors don't lead squarely into the halls, 977 00:53:13.800 --> 00:53:17.159 they are intentionally at an angle. Even the fluorescent fixtures 978 00:53:17.159 --> 00:53:20.760 in the hallway intersection areas are angled to match the doors. 979 00:53:21.039 --> 00:53:23.960 As they're walking, we can see room names they pass by. 980 00:53:24.159 --> 00:53:27.199 Allan Town. This was the name of Mark's freshman Fluke file. 981 00:53:27.320 --> 00:53:29.679 It's the one that earned him a crystal

headcube. Also, 982 00:53:29.840 --> 00:53:32.639 it's not mentioned within the show, but Dan Erickson has 983 00:53:32.719 --> 00:53:36.119 mentioned Mark's style of refining on this first file changed 984 00:53:36.159 --> 00:53:39.639 the way MDR worked on future files. He didn't go 985 00:53:39.719 --> 00:53:43.000 into detail, but Mark's work was groundbreaking. We passed by 986 00:53:43.079 --> 00:53:46.880 a room named Cairns. We don't necessarily know about Cairns, 987 00:53:46.920 --> 00:53:48.920 but it is on the list as one of Mark's 988 00:53:48.920 --> 00:53:52.760 twenty four completed files. It was his eleventh finished file. 989 00:53:53.039 --> 00:53:55.599 As Gemma and her nurse turn another corner, you can 990 00:53:55.639 --> 00:53:59.440 see the very angled insets of each room this hallway, 991 00:53:59.519 --> 00:54:02.760 the second one they turn into, is only a stub. 992 00:54:02.920 --> 00:54:05.599 The extension to the hallway is being created via CGI. 993 00:54:05.920 --> 00:54:07.960 This is why the shot cuts in close on Gemma 994 00:54:08.159 --> 00:54:11.639 so we can transition to another section of real hallway. 995 00:54:11.840 --> 00:54:14.559 We passed by a room named Drainesville, which was marks 996 00:54:14.639 --> 00:54:18.280 twenty fourth completed file. We'll be visiting Drainesville with Jemma 997 00:54:18.320 --> 00:54:20.679 a little later in the episode. There's a glimpse of 998 00:54:20.719 --> 00:54:23.960 a room named Sienna. This was the first file Helly 999 00:54:24.000 --> 00:54:26.360 worked on as a new refiner. It's also the one 1000 00:54:26.400 --> 00:54:29.840 she completed when we saw the one hundred percent here animation. 1001 00:54:30.199 --> 00:54:33.559 It's basically the only file Helly's ever worked on. I'm 1002 00:54:33.599 --> 00:54:37.280 not sure why this completed file became a room. It's 1003 00:54:37.320 --> 00:54:40.599 not a part of Mark's list. There is some murkiness 1004 00:54:40.599 --> 00:54:45.000 as to what files become rooms and what rooms impact Gemma. 1005 00:54:45.159 --> 00:54:47.480 We never see her enter this Heena room, so maybe 1006 00:54:47.480 --> 00:54:50.000 it's not one she has to deal with. Could Helly 1007 00:54:50.000 --> 00:54:52.679 be working on rooms for someone else. We don't know 1008 00:54:52.760 --> 00:54:55.800 for certain that the other refiners aren't working on the 1009 00:54:55.800 --> 00:55:00.400 brains or psyches of other testing floor subjects. It's possible 1010 00:55:00.440 --> 00:55:03.800 there's a test subject down here somewhere who's visiting rooms 1011 00:55:03.840 --> 00:55:07.480 created by other refiners they pass by Loveland. It was 1012 00:55:07.519 --> 00:55:11.159 the eighteenth file Marks completed. Oh and a random bit 1013 00:55:11.159 --> 00:55:14.639 of trivia about Mark s the name Mark was selected 1014 00:55:14.679 --> 00:55:17.519 for the main character's name as an homage to Dan 1015 00:55:17.639 --> 00:55:21.760 Erickson's dad, Mark Erickson. That's right, three years and sixteen 1016 00:55:21.880 --> 00:55:25.440 episodes in, and there's still some new tidbit to throw 1017 00:55:25.480 --> 00:55:28.480 in about Mark. As Gemma continues down the hall, we 1018 00:55:28.519 --> 00:55:31.199 glimpse a room for Tumbwater. This was the file Dylan 1019 00:55:31.280 --> 00:55:33.199 g was working on when we first met him on 1020 00:55:33.199 --> 00:55:35.719 the Severed Floor. It's the one he was adamant about 1021 00:55:35.760 --> 00:55:39.159 completing when Helly r First joined the MDR crew. This 1022 00:55:39.320 --> 00:55:42.360 is another file that generated a room, but it doesn't 1023 00:55:42.400 --> 00:55:44.920 seem to be a room Jemma is forced to enter 1024 00:55:45.079 --> 00:55:48.679 based on what we'll see this episode, Gemma only enters 1025 00:55:48.840 --> 00:55:52.079 Mark created rooms. Gemma's nurse stops in front of the 1026 00:55:52.079 --> 00:55:55.840 Wellington room. Wellington was the twenty third file completed by 1027 00:55:55.880 --> 00:55:58.519 Mark s. Jemma steps up to the door, but with 1028 00:55:58.679 --> 00:56:02.679 some hesitation. This is Outygemma on this side of the door. 1029 00:56:02.840 --> 00:56:06.199 She has no idea what's really in this room, but 1030 00:56:06.280 --> 00:56:09.960 she does know how she feels when she leaves this room. 1031 00:56:10.119 --> 00:56:13.199 These thoughts appear to be causing her to hesitate at 1032 00:56:13.199 --> 00:56:17.239 the door. Jemma doesn't respond. She looks at the nurse 1033 00:56:17.280 --> 00:56:20.000 with a haunted expression. The nurse places her hand in 1034 00:56:20.039 --> 00:56:23.400 a biometric security device. There's one of these mounted next 1035 00:56:23.400 --> 00:56:26.079 to every door here on the testing floor. The function 1036 00:56:26.119 --> 00:56:29.320 of this device becomes very important in the finale. When 1037 00:56:29.360 --> 00:56:31.320 I first saw it in action, I thought they were 1038 00:56:31.400 --> 00:56:34.559 checking the user's handprint along with the blood draw. That 1039 00:56:34.880 --> 00:56:37.440 is not the case. The device is only using a 1040 00:56:37.440 --> 00:56:40.400 blood sample to identify the user. The handprint is there 1041 00:56:40.480 --> 00:56:43.679 to properly orient the user's hand for the blood test. 1042 00:56:43.840 --> 00:56:45.960 There's a slight needle prick to the middle finger and 1043 00:56:46.000 --> 00:56:48.679 a sample of blood is drawn for comparison to what's 1044 00:56:48.719 --> 00:56:51.639 on file. Blood and the use of blood is a 1045 00:56:51.760 --> 00:56:55.320 huge theme for this entire episode. We started the whole 1046 00:56:55.360 --> 00:56:58.599 thing with a blood drive at Gann's college. Jema's nurse 1047 00:56:58.639 --> 00:57:01.760 flinches as the device cause her blood. Her sample is 1048 00:57:01.800 --> 00:57:04.480 approved and the door opens. We're looking

at a close 1049 00:57:04.559 --> 00:57:07.280 up of Jemma's face as she passes through the door. 1050 00:57:07.519 --> 00:57:11.039 There's a Zalie effect and a ding. Gemma has most 1051 00:57:11.159 --> 00:57:15.440 definitely made a severance transition as she passed through the barrier. 1052 00:57:15.639 --> 00:57:19.199 Techen Lockman said her any transitions were more challenging than 1053 00:57:19.239 --> 00:57:21.880 the ones that happened on the elevator. She was usually 1054 00:57:21.960 --> 00:57:24.559 in motion when they would do the Zalie. She's right, 1055 00:57:24.599 --> 00:57:27.079 a Zali effect on a moving subject is much more 1056 00:57:27.119 --> 00:57:30.079 difficult to shoot than with someone who is standing still. 1057 00:57:30.440 --> 00:57:34.159 Jemma's hybrid severance chip has now accessed what we'll discover 1058 00:57:34.519 --> 00:57:38.360 is a unique Innie. This Inni only appears when she 1059 00:57:38.599 --> 00:57:42.280 enters the Wellington room. Each room Jemma enters causes her 1060 00:57:42.320 --> 00:57:46.960 to access a unique Inni who only exists within that room. 1061 00:57:47.199 --> 00:57:49.440 To this point in a series, we've seen that passing 1062 00:57:49.480 --> 00:57:53.400 through a severed barrier causes a switch to flip. I've 1063 00:57:53.480 --> 00:57:56.639 always considered it to be a very binary operation. The 1064 00:57:56.679 --> 00:57:59.360 only two options are OUTY an ANY. If you pass 1065 00:57:59.400 --> 00:58:02.239 through the barrier as an AUDI, you transition to your 1066 00:58:02.239 --> 00:58:05.719 ANY and vice versa, unless, of course, there's a Glasgow 1067 00:58:05.760 --> 00:58:09.079 block in place. This is not the case with Gemma's 1068 00:58:09.159 --> 00:58:13.199 hybrid chip. My theory is differences in frequencies or how 1069 00:58:13.239 --> 00:58:16.000 they access the different innis. I've always said the chip 1070 00:58:16.039 --> 00:58:18.760 is a switch accessed to via some sort of radio frequency. 1071 00:58:18.920 --> 00:58:21.800 In my head, I equate it to the limited broadcast 1072 00:58:21.960 --> 00:58:24.800 range of Bluetooth. If you were to take the broadcast 1073 00:58:24.920 --> 00:58:27.599 band of Bluetooth and break it up in various frequencies 1074 00:58:27.639 --> 00:58:32.079 over a range, you could access specific devices using the 1075 00:58:32.119 --> 00:58:35.280 discrete frequencies. It's like tuning in a radio station within 1076 00:58:35.320 --> 00:58:38.679 the FM band. Gemma is tuning in to her Wellington 1077 00:58:38.800 --> 00:58:42.199 INNI with the Wellington chip frequency. When she goes into 1078 00:58:42.199 --> 00:58:45.320 another room, the barriers are set to different frequencies which 1079 00:58:45.360 --> 00:58:49.039 have the ability to activate different innis. Whenever she leaves 1080 00:58:49.039 --> 00:58:51.599 a room, the chip is shut off and she accesses 1081 00:58:51.639 --> 00:58:54.559 her OUTI the same way a regular severed worker would. 1082 00:58:54.679 --> 00:58:58.920 This is just my theory, it's not confirmed. Anywhere Gemma 1083 00:58:59.000 --> 00:59:03.280 is Wellington Any is visibly not happy. She looks distressed 1084 00:59:03.320 --> 00:59:06.360 and hesitant as she enters the room. The shot reverses. 1085 00:59:06.400 --> 00:59:10.480 We're following Gemma's Wellington any into this room. A whistled 1086 00:59:10.519 --> 00:59:13.639 rendition of the wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald can be 1087 00:59:13.719 --> 00:59:21.320 heard echoing as she enters. Even the walls inside this 1088 00:59:21.519 --> 00:59:25.360 room are angled. Nothing is square and true here on 1089 00:59:25.400 --> 00:59:29.079 the testing floor Wellington, Gemma slowly approaches a dentis's chair. 1090 00:59:29.239 --> 00:59:32.920 Both the chair and the denis examination throne are upholstered 1091 00:59:32.960 --> 00:59:35.480 in a dusty rose color. The rest of the room 1092 00:59:35.599 --> 00:59:39.440 is surprise, Surprise, done all in white. There's something off 1093 00:59:39.559 --> 00:59:42.960 about this dentist's chair. As Jemma sits, it becomes more 1094 00:59:42.960 --> 00:59:46.639 obvious there aren't any arms on this chair. No arms 1095 00:59:46.679 --> 00:59:49.760 would make it uncomfortable. It would also mean Jemma doesn't 1096 00:59:49.760 --> 00:59:52.519 have anything to grab when she's in pain. I would 1097 00:59:52.519 --> 00:59:55.800 imagine that's why there aren't any arms. We can hear 1098 00:59:55.840 --> 00:59:58.440 the wheels of a cart grinding along the floor. This 1099 00:59:58.519 --> 01:00:01.159 is the continuation of the o d visit we saw 1100 01:00:01.239 --> 01:00:04.119 during the cold open of Trojan's horse entering the room 1101 01:00:04.440 --> 01:00:07.599 is the same man who collected those dental instruments that 1102 01:00:07.679 --> 01:00:10.239 had been created by Owen d This gives us a 1103 01:00:10.360 --> 01:00:14.400 very rough timeline for this scene. There she is, Oh, 1104 01:00:14.440 --> 01:00:17.840 this guy is creepy. This is the evil, scary and 1105 01:00:17.880 --> 01:00:21.599 a bit dumb Doctor Mauer being played by Robbie Benson. 1106 01:00:21.920 --> 01:00:25.000 I know Robbie Benson is beloved. How can he be 1107 01:00:25.119 --> 01:00:28.199 playing evil and scary? He was a floppy haired teen 1108 01:00:28.280 --> 01:00:31.079 heart throwback in the seventies with roles like Nick and 1109 01:00:31.159 --> 01:00:34.119 Ice Castles from nineteen seventy eight, where the title character 1110 01:00:34.199 --> 01:00:37.800 in odea Billy Joe from nineteen seventy six. These days, 1111 01:00:37.920 --> 01:00:41.440 he's matured into a much beloved adult performer. Robbie has 1112 01:00:41.440 --> 01:00:44.559 done voice work. He's also directed numerous episodes of TV, 1113 01:00:44.880 --> 01:00:49.039 including six episodes of Friends and twenty five episodes of Allen. 1114 01:00:49.320 -->

01:00:53.559 Robbie's a composer, a lyricist, a filmmaker, and a novelist. 1115 01:00:53.679 --> 01:00:58.039 This modern day renaissance man also has a robust theater career, 1116 01:00:58.119 --> 01:01:01.760 both as a performer and composed If that's not enough, 1117 01:01:02.039 --> 01:01:05.920 doctor Benson is a professor of film. One of Robbie's 1118 01:01:05.960 --> 01:01:09.039 most high profile performances as an adult was his voice 1119 01:01:09.039 --> 01:01:12.119 work as the Beast in Disney's animated Beauty and the 1120 01:01:12.159 --> 01:01:15.679 Beast from nineteen ninety one. Robbie has eighty two actor credits, 1121 01:01:15.719 --> 01:01:19.960 thirty two director credits, and sixteen soundtrack credits on his 1122 01:01:20.000 --> 01:01:23.639 IMDb profile. We'll get to enjoy Robbie's demented weirdness as 1123 01:01:23.719 --> 01:01:27.400 doctor Mauer for four episodes here in season two. As 1124 01:01:27.440 --> 01:01:30.360 with many of the names we encounter on severance, Maers 1125 01:01:30.480 --> 01:01:33.960 has meaning. Mauer is a German word which means bricklayer. 1126 01:01:34.159 --> 01:01:37.760 It can also reference the wall being built by a bricklayer. 1127 01:01:38.000 --> 01:01:41.480 The Berlin Wall was known as Berliner Mauer. They don't 1128 01:01:41.480 --> 01:01:44.440 explicitly explain, but I think it has something to do 1129 01:01:44.480 --> 01:01:48.440 with doctor Mauer laying the bricks of any Gemma's new personality. 1130 01:01:48.679 --> 01:01:52.320 Any Gemma is very meek. It's a departure from her 1131 01:01:52.360 --> 01:01:57.719 more self assured AUDI personae. Get a break, Remember the 1132 01:01:57.840 --> 01:02:02.880 perception of the Inny. Inny's experience in this room abruptly 1133 01:02:02.960 --> 01:02:06.800 stopped the last time Jemma exited. The Innie's consciousness picks 1134 01:02:06.920 --> 01:02:09.880 up without a break. When Jemma re enters the room, 1135 01:02:10.320 --> 01:02:14.440 just for a little while, she's calmly pleading surely someone 1136 01:02:14.480 --> 01:02:17.039 will let her have a bit of peace. It has 1137 01:02:17.119 --> 01:02:20.760 been six weeks, six real weeks. In actual time, sure, 1138 01:02:20.800 --> 01:02:24.719 but no time at all has passed for any Wellington. Gemma, 1139 01:02:24.960 --> 01:02:28.280 I was just here. Ah, honey, that may be true, 1140 01:02:28.280 --> 01:02:29.400 but he doesn't care. 1141 01:02:30.039 --> 01:02:33.280 I know. Nobody likes the dentist. 1142 01:02:33.679 --> 01:02:36.800 Especially when the primary aim of the dentist is torture. 1143 01:02:37.039 --> 01:02:40.440 He may be an evil torturer, but Mauer does like 1144 01:02:40.519 --> 01:02:42.000 to keep things chatty and light. 1145 01:02:42.239 --> 01:02:44.239 I should have been an accountant like my mom wanted. 1146 01:02:45.199 --> 01:02:49.800 Mauer's personality is entirely inconsistent with his role as torturer. 1147 01:02:50.000 --> 01:02:52.880 He

reminds me a lot of Michael Palin character from Brazil. 1148 01:02:53.159 --> 01:02:57.280 He was also an oddly bubbly person whose job involved torture, 1149 01:02:57.440 --> 01:03:00.960 even to the point of killing his clients. Our guffaws 1150 01:03:01.000 --> 01:03:04.679 at his little joke. Jemma does not smile. She continues 1151 01:03:04.719 --> 01:03:08.440 to look terrified. Please have a seat, he indicates the 1152 01:03:08.519 --> 01:03:11.840 dentist chair. Gemma slowly and hesitantly makes her way over 1153 01:03:12.000 --> 01:03:15.760 to the dentist chair. As Maur positions himself for his examination, 1154 01:03:16.079 --> 01:03:19.199 She's hugging her purse, not wanting to sit down. As 1155 01:03:19.199 --> 01:03:21.920 she lays back. Our turns on a head mounted light. 1156 01:03:23.119 --> 01:03:23.639 Excellent. 1157 01:03:25.159 --> 01:03:27.480 The lights in the room go off as he turns 1158 01:03:27.519 --> 01:03:31.599 on the big positionable overhead light. Let's see how we're 1159 01:03:31.639 --> 01:03:35.960 doing iny. Jemma is quietly panicking. She knows what's coming. 1160 01:03:36.079 --> 01:03:38.800 Jemma keeps her mouth closed with her head turned to 1161 01:03:38.840 --> 01:03:44.239 one side, folding wife Please, our's hand enters the frame 1162 01:03:44.320 --> 01:03:47.320 holding one of the sharp pick instruments. There's a close 1163 01:03:47.400 --> 01:03:51.039 up on Jemma's mouth. Then, thankfully, before we witness anything horrible, 1164 01:03:51.199 --> 01:03:54.480 another Zollie effect OUTI. Gemma is back in the hallway 1165 01:03:54.519 --> 01:03:57.519 with her nurse. She rubs her very sore jaw. 1166 01:03:57.960 --> 01:03:59.119 How long was I in there? 1167 01:04:00.960 --> 01:04:03.679 No wonder any Gemma was so terrified to have a 1168 01:04:03.719 --> 01:04:06.239 seat in the dentist's chair. The nurse heads down the 1169 01:04:06.280 --> 01:04:09.280 hall as Jemma follows. She pauses to again read the 1170 01:04:09.360 --> 01:04:11.519 name of the room which caused her mouth to hurt 1171 01:04:11.679 --> 01:04:15.400 so badly, Wellington. As the two continue down the hall, 1172 01:04:15.519 --> 01:04:18.159 we can see the room marked Roads. This is another 1173 01:04:18.199 --> 01:04:20.960 of Mark's twenty four completed rooms. This room was the 1174 01:04:21.039 --> 01:04:25.119 twenty second he completed. It was just before Wellington. Are 1175 01:04:25.159 --> 01:04:27.800 the rooms sitting in the same order as they were 1176 01:04:27.880 --> 01:04:30.840 created for these two? They appear to be as Gemma 1177 01:04:30.880 --> 01:04:32.800 and her nurse are making their way through the halls. 1178 01:04:32.960 --> 01:04:36.199 Jemma pauses, she's looking at something up ahead. When we're 1179 01:04:36.239 --> 01:04:39.039 given the chance to see what she's seeing, the camera 1180 01:04:39.199 --> 01:04:42.239 pans over the room. Name Cold Harbor. It's the name 1181 01:04:42.280 --> 01:04:44.679 of the finale episode and the name of the file 1182 01:04:44.880 --> 01:04:48.000 Mark is currently working on. It's the one Drummond is 1183 01:04:48.039 --> 01:04:51.119 obsessed with. The camera does a push in on the name, 1184 01:04:51.320 --> 01:04:54.360 leading us into a dissolve. The dissolve takes us back 1185 01:04:54.400 --> 01:04:57.559 to Mark's living room Audie. Mark is still unconscious on 1186 01:04:57.599 --> 01:05:00.840 the couch. His sister Devin and chip wrangler Regabi are 1187 01:05:00.880 --> 01:05:04.360 tending to him. Before we continue without e Mark's timeline, 1188 01:05:04.480 --> 01:05:07.000 It's time for us to take a break, Refiner. This 1189 01:05:07.159 --> 01:05:09.360 is the end of our work on this file for today. 1190 01:05:09.519 --> 01:05:11.880 We'll pick up again next time with Cheek I Bardo 1191 01:05:12.159 --> 01:05:14.639 Part two. For now, you can shut down the file 1192 01:05:14.679 --> 01:05:16.920 and prepare to depart for the day. You've done some 1193 01:05:17.000 --> 01:05:19.440 good work, Refiner. We're starting to gain a bit of 1194 01:05:19.519 --> 01:05:23.360 understanding about the testing floor. Sure, it's raising a lot 1195 01:05:23.360 --> 01:05:25.639 of new questions, but I love the fact we're moving 1196 01:05:25.679 --> 01:05:30.239 forward with at least some explanation regarding the whole refining process. 1197 01:05:30.440 --> 01:05:33.960 Quick reminder, before you leave, get to the Severed Patreon page. 1198 01:05:34.000 --> 01:05:37.119 Support the Severed podcast by pledging five dollars a month. 1199 01:05:37.199 --> 01:05:40.199 Signing up is easy. Go to patreon dot com slish 1200 01:05:40.360 --> 01:05:45.039 Severed Pod. That's patreon dot com slash Severed Pod. Patron 1201 01:05:45.079 --> 01:05:47.880 refiners have access to commercial free versions of the podcast, 1202 01:05:48.039 --> 01:05:50.559 and you get to proof it as I'm making it. 1203 01:05:50.719 --> 01:05:53.239 We'll talk more about Cheek i Bardo next time. We've 1204 01:05:53.239 --> 01:05:55.239 got a lot more to unpack down here on the 1205 01:05:55.280 --> 01:05:58.000 testing floor. We also need to figure out if Agabi 1206 01:05:58.119 --> 01:06:00.840 has fried Mark's brain or not. Make sure to join me. 1207 01:06:01.000 --> 01:06:03.360 Until then, it's time to shut down your workstation and 1208 01:06:03.400 --> 01:06:05.920 get to the elevator. Refiner. Thanks for being here, and 1209 01:06:05.960 --> 01:06:09.360 as always, as you're leaving, please stagger your exits. 1210 01:06:09.519 --> 01:06:13.639 You've been listening to Severed, the Ultimate Severance Podcast. 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