Full Transcript for It's Something Unpredictable, But in the End Set Hike!

know, it's it is interesting, Panda, and we know despite your surname, you're a well-known xenophobe, and you know, you're an America first guy. 00:04:06.159 --> 00:04:16.480 So how do you feel about the you know, Secret Eye International NFL and us becoming us being the shield, becoming a worldwide product? 00:04:16.480 --> 00:04:18.399 Good, bad, indifferent. 00:04:18.399 --> 00:04:20.399 I mean, I disagree with what you just said. 00:04:20.399 --> 00:04:22.480 I love the world, I love to travel the world. 00:04:22.480 --> 00:04:25.439 It's a world, you know, but but good humor there. 00:04:25.439 --> 00:04:28.720 I I I think it's cool. 00:04:28.720 --> 00:04:29.120 Yeah. 00:04:29.120 --> 00:04:30.000 I think it's cool. 00:04:30.000 --> 00:04:31.120 What a great word to use. 00:04:31.120 --> 00:04:35.680 I think, yeah, I mean the game of football, it's yeah, it's it's I enjoy it as a fan. 00:04:35.680 --> 00:04:38.480 You know, like I still remember when they played in Brazil. 00:04:38.480 --> 00:04:41.439 I I the London London games are always good. 00:04:41.439 --> 00:04:47.600 So I think Yeah, I think it's good for as a fan, I think it's great to have the international games. 00:04:47.600 --> 00:04:53.360 And I'm I I know the international fans really play fantasy football and enjoy it. 00:04:53.360 --> 00:04:54.800 So I think it's a good thing. 00:04:54.800 --> 00:04:58.079 I for the players, it's probably tough, you know, being away from the family. 00:04:58.079 --> 00:05:04.959 And I know that comes with, you know, challenges, but but overall, I think there's a lot of net positives from it. 00:05:05.199 --> 00:05:06.000 Well, yeah, I agree. 00:05:06.000 --> 00:05:14.240 I think for the fans, like the US fans of teams, it's definitely tough because obviously if this game was played at one o'clock their time, we were talking a very late game here in the US. 00:05:14.240 --> 00:05:16.879 We we all know the ultimate goal here for Goodell. 00:05:16.879 --> 00:05:28.959 It's to make teams that play international against those other national teams and then have this World Super Bowl where you're gonna have some international conference that plays against a US conference for the actual championship, right? 00:05:28.959 --> 00:05:30.240 Isn't that how this is gonna work? 00:05:30.639 --> 00:05:48.240 I think that, and I don't want to sound too cynical, but I think that all they care about is the welfare of their fans, and they'll, you know, excuse any amount of profit or money making for the quality of the product and the safety of the players is clearly the number one thing. 00:05:48.240 --> 00:05:50.079 I think we can all agree on that. 00:05:50.079 --> 00:05:55.120 You know, we these players, their bodies love traveling high distances. 00:05:55.120 --> 00:06:00.480 You know, it there's nothing better for your body than sitting in a cramped airplane for 14 and a half hours. 00:06:00.480 --> 00:06:02.879 That's just that's just normal physics. 00:06:02.879 --> 00:06:05.519 Yeah, I mean, like I said, that's some of the challenges. 00:06:05.519 --> 00:06:14.240 Yeah, but uh, but it's great to see, you know, the rest like it's it's great to expand it to outside the United States. 00:06:14.560 --> 00:06:19.360 I mean, but didn't we talk did we discuss how the teams have taken two different approaches to this game? 00:06:19.360 --> 00:06:22.160 I did that about 300 seconds ago. 00:06:22.160 --> 00:06:24.639 But let's let's get into that a little further, I guess. 00:06:24.639 --> 00:06:26.639 I mean how would you what would you prefer? 00:06:26.639 --> 00:06:37.920 What would would you rather be the team that shows up right before the game, or would you rather be the team that came early and developed like a uh use to the time that they're in the new the new time zone? 00:06:38.319 --> 00:06:42.000 I find it to be a philosophical question and one that I'd be glad to answer. 00:06:42.000 --> 00:06:46.399 And what I would tell you is that it depends on what type of student you are. 00:06:46.399 --> 00:06:57.920 Are you the person who gets the book report done a week early and you know is able to, you know, do the goody two-shoes thing, or are you the guy who crams everything in within the last, you know, in the last four hours? 00:06:57.920 --> 00:06:59.519 You know, are you a crammer? 00:06:59.519 --> 00:07:05.279 Or are you I don't have another rhyme for crammer for the more forward-focused, right? 00:07:05.279 --> 00:07:06.959 So that's that's what it is, right? 00:07:06.959 --> 00:07:09.360 The LA Rams are cramming for the test. 00:07:09.360 --> 00:07:10.800 The Niners are studying. 00:07:10.800 --> 00:07:12.000 Nope, wrong, bam. 00:07:12.639 --> 00:07:16.800 The problem here is when you do that, you don't have to do anything after that. 00:07:16.800 --> 00:07:21.040 Like this is it, you get there, you get there early, okay, great, but you still have to play the game. 00:07:21.040 --> 00:07:27.519 If you hand it, if you finish your test or you finish your report right before its due date, there's nothing to do after the due date. 00:07:27.519 --> 00:07:29.439 In this respect, you all have to play the game. 00:07:29.439 --> 00:07:32.959 So these players are all jet lagged that just got there, whereas the other players that aren't. 00:07:33.199 --> 00:07:37.600 Well, with all due respect, the metaphor goes well beyond your comprehension. 00:07:37.600 --> 00:07:42.639 And what what it is is the concept that the test is getting to the game, right? 00:07:42.639 --> 00:07:47.920 One person, their test, they decided to take it early and be, you know, forward thinking. 00:07:47.920 --> 00:07:53.040 The other person's like, you know, F it, I'm just gonna go down there and we're gonna figure it out and we're gonna go in, go out. 00:07:53.040 --> 00:07:57.439 And, you know, I both you can get an A both ways. 00:07:57.439 --> 00:07:58.160 You really can. 00:07:58.160 --> 00:08:02.399 I I actually

think it's more I don't I don't think it's gonna show one thing or another. 00:08:02.399 --> 00:08:06.079 I don't necessarily think one team gets a major benefit than the other. 00:08:06.319 --> 00:08:06.959 But we'll find out. 00:08:06.959 --> 00:08:13.920 I I'm sure what's the over-under on the uh amount of times the announcers blame jet lag for the number of false starts tonight? 00:08:13.920 --> 00:08:15.199 Uh six. 00:08:15.199 --> 00:08:15.920 Six, yeah. 00:08:16.079 --> 00:08:16.639 I think it's six. 00:08:16.639 --> 00:08:17.199 What do you think? 00:08:17.199 --> 00:08:18.480 I'll take the over on six. 00:08:18.480 --> 00:08:19.279 I'm not sure. 00:08:19.279 --> 00:08:19.600 Yeah. 00:08:19.600 --> 00:08:23.920 Now, do you know what that what the international unit of time is? 00:08:23.920 --> 00:08:25.839 The international unit. 00:08:25.839 --> 00:08:27.040 It's the second. 00:08:27.040 --> 00:08:28.639 Yeah, that makes sense. 00:08:28.639 --> 00:08:32.080 So do you know what a second, you know, what it is? 00:08:32.480 --> 00:08:33.679 Would you like to explain that, I guess? 00:08:33.840 --> 00:08:34.720 I can I can Google it. 00:08:34.720 --> 00:08:36.720 I I would love for you to correct me. 00:08:36.720 --> 00:08:46.320 But I believe it's I believe a second is defined as the duration of a certain number of vibrations of the cesium atom is what they decided. 00:08:46.320 --> 00:08:49.360 And I just am curious who was like, you know what? 00:08:49.360 --> 00:08:52.080 I want this atom to be what a second is. 00:08:52.080 --> 00:08:56.559 Because if nobody agrees on what a second is, then we have no sense of time, right? 00:08:56.559 --> 00:08:59.600 Time is like, we're all just agreeing about time. 00:08:59.600 --> 00:09:01.279 We could make it up if we went. 00:09:01.279 --> 00:09:02.159 You know what I mean? 00:09:02.159 --> 00:09:04.639 Isn't it such a crazy concept? 00:09:04.639 --> 00:09:05.519 Yeah. 00:09:05.519 --> 00:09:08.000 Like I could just make up a day. 00:09:08.000 --> 00:09:09.279 I could I could call today. 00:09:09.279 --> 00:09:10.720 What like let's say we've already done this. 00:09:10.720 --> 00:09:14.399 Let's say, for example, today is Thursday. 00:09:14.399 --> 00:09:16.480 Let's say it's, you know, by the command. 00:09:16.480 --> 00:09:24.480 I could turn it in, I could change it to raspberry lime day, you know, and I could just have a different flavor for every day and just say that. 00:09:24.480 --> 00:09:26.320 And would I would I be wrong? 00:09:26.320 --> 00:09:29.360 But you would still have to agree on the second, right? 00:09:29.360 --> 00:09:30.000 Like it's a good thing. 00:09:30.000 --> 00:09:30.799 Well, that's a good question. 00:09:31.120 --> 00:09:33.840 You need to you need to make a defined like baseline for everybody. 00:09:33.840 --> 00:09:36.639 And the problem is you need to redefine this for everybody. 00:09:36.639 --> 00:09:39.360 So everyone has to agree to the new unit of whatever.

00:09:39.759 --> 00:09:44.000 The reason I bring this up is because the theme of this podcast is time. 00:09:44.000 --> 00:09:45.919 I think I've developed it pretty well. 00:09:45.919 --> 00:09:52.799 And I believe that there was one vibration of the cesium atom that led to a Michigan win and a Western Michigan loss. 00:09:52.799 --> 00:10:01.840 And, you know, I think if the classic meme, I I think the thing that I enjoyed the most was the person who was like, Welcome to Michigan, set your clock back one second. 00:10:01.840 --> 00:10:04.000 Yeah, it's pretty good. 00:10:04.000 --> 00:10:06.399 But yeah, so what did you think? 00:10:06.399 --> 00:10:07.360 Did you follow now? 00:10:07.360 --> 00:10:09.759 You're a college football guy too, right, Panda? 00:10:09.759 --> 00:10:11.679 Yeah, I this year for sure. 00:10:11.679 --> 00:10:13.360 Yeah, I've gotten really much more into it. 00:10:13.360 --> 00:10:18.159 Did you were you watching the Michigan Western Michigan or did you yeah, I didn't watch it live actually. 00:10:18.159 --> 00:10:20.720 I caught I caught the caught it after the fact. 00:10:20.720 --> 00:10:22.639 Yeah, I didn't see it live. 00:10:22.639 --> 00:10:24.639 I was like following it on my phone. 00:10:24.639 --> 00:10:28.000 Not watching it, like through and then like we were texting, yeah. 00:10:28.000 --> 00:10:31.440 I I forget where I was that night, but but yeah, I remember hearing about it. 00:10:31.440 --> 00:10:40.000 And then I think Turtle, our listener, Turtle said something like, Wow, that was like bull that you know, that was a bullshit call or some bs call. 00:10:40.000 --> 00:10:40.960 Well, yeah, sorry. 00:10:40.960 --> 00:10:41.759 Terrible. 00:10:41.759 --> 00:10:42.080 Sorry, folks. 00:10:42.080 --> 00:10:42.879 We'll edit that out. 00:10:42.879 --> 00:10:43.759 Yeah, yeah. 00:10:43.759 --> 00:10:50.399 And so then I was like, you know, whenever you hear someone say controversial call, like you have a tendency to you want to see what the heck they're talking about. 00:10:50.399 --> 00:10:55.759 So then I saw it and yeah, immediately I was like kind of like really mad at Michigan. 00:10:55.759 --> 00:10:57.519 I mean, I don't like Michigan to begin with. 00:10:57.519 --> 00:10:57.759 Yeah. 00:10:57.759 --> 00:11:06.799 I just think they're very like cocky and yeah, just I don't like their just their their attitude, you know, when it comes to their fandom. 00:11:06.799 --> 00:11:13.759 But like they always try to say that Michigan M is this like work like logo that people should like worship or something, you know. 00:11:13.759 --> 00:11:14.080 Yeah. 00:11:14.080 --> 00:11:16.080 Compared to like the Dallas Cowboy logo. 00:11:16.080 --> 00:11:16.720 It's kind of stupid. 00:11:16.720 --> 00:11:19.039 I mean, I mean the play itself though, Panda. 00:11:19.039 --> 00:11:21.039 Yeah, you I'm sure you watched the replays, right? 00:11:21.039 --> 00:11:21.679 Yeah, yeah. 00:11:21.679 --> 00:11:23.600 Do you think

there was a second left? 00:11:23.600 --> 00:11:30.320 I mean, if you're watching the TV broadcast, like there it was c the ball was in the air and it was 0.00. 00:11:30.320 --> 00:11:32.240 Yeah, I mean the dude's a snapshot. 00:11:32.240 --> 00:11:33.600 What's what's the quarterback's name? 00:11:33.600 --> 00:11:36.639 He's like a very disappointment everyone's like fully in this court. 00:11:36.639 --> 00:11:38.080 Underwood, that's it. 00:11:38.080 --> 00:11:45.039 He he lets the ball go at three seconds, and it's a I don't know, 35, 40 yard pass. 00:11:45.039 --> 00:11:48.159 I mean I mean it that like go into the physics of it. 00:11:48.159 --> 00:11:48.960 Yeah, yeah. 00:11:48.960 --> 00:11:51.840 Per the T the TV broadcast, it was zero. 00:11:51.840 --> 00:11:52.639 The game was over. 00:11:52.639 --> 00:11:54.159 Yeah, it was the ball was in the air. 00:11:54.159 --> 00:11:59.120 If I were Western Michigan and I were that coach, I would not have lined up for that last play. 00:11:59.120 --> 00:12:00.799 Just say we won. 00:12:00.799 --> 00:12:02.799 Like, just don't even line up for it. 00:12:02.799 --> 00:12:03.360 Yeah. 00:12:03.360 --> 00:12:03.600 Yeah. 00:12:03.840 --> 00:12:05.200 What would have happened if that happened? 00:12:05.440 --> 00:12:06.399 I mean, maybe they didn't know. 00:12:06.399 --> 00:12:08.080 Like, because you assume it did get reviewed. 00:12:08.080 --> 00:12:15.840 It did get reviewed, and then like I just I don't know if they knew it at the time that it was what if you just walked off the field and you're like, dude, we're good. 00:12:15.840 --> 00:12:16.480 We just won. 00:12:16.480 --> 00:12:17.440 Like, what would happen? 00:12:17.440 --> 00:12:20.320 Well, you would lose the game, like turn on the rules. 00:12:20.320 --> 00:12:20.480 Yeah. 00:12:20.480 --> 00:12:20.879 Yeah. 00:12:20.879 --> 00:12:24.080 But you could be like, it there was no time left, you know, and and put it in display. 00:12:24.080 --> 00:12:24.960 Just appeal it. 00:12:24.960 --> 00:12:25.440 Yeah. 00:12:25.440 --> 00:12:30.480 I mean, it was kind of stupid because I think at first, like, the Mac like didn't they like support it at first? 00:12:30.480 --> 00:12:31.840 Like they were like, congrats. 00:12:31.840 --> 00:12:40.159 And then then like a few days later, I guess that people were saying like lawyers definitely got involved, like, and they were they came up with this like crafted message that it was wrong. 00:12:40.159 --> 00:12:40.720 Yeah. 00:12:40.720 --> 00:12:41.039 Yeah. 00:12:41.039 --> 00:12:43.759 I mean, it just showed I think that's still did that ever get results. 00:12:43.759 --> 00:12:44.559 Like they appealed it. 00:12:44.559 --> 00:12:45.919 Oh, I think that's interesting. 00:12:45.919 --> 00:12:48.159 I think this is going to be in the courts for decades. 00:12:48.159 --> 00:12:50.320 Uh, you know, it's gonna be a long time. 00:12:50.320 --> 00:12:53.120 Yeah, this one second's gonna last a long time. 00:12:53.120 --> 00:12:54.000 Yeah. 00:12:54.000 --> 00:12:54.480 Yeah. 00:12:54.480 --> 00:12:56.399 No, that was tough to tough to watch. 00:12:56.399 --> 00:12:57.279 You know, tough to watch. 00:12:57.279 --> 00:12:58.320 Painful. 00:12:58.320 --> 00:13:02.159 Yeah, they basically said there was another clock that was the the real clock. 00:13:02.159 --> 00:13:03.759 That's my question for you, Panda. 00:13:03.759 --> 00:13:06.480 You bring up the best point, and you always do this. 00:13:06.480 --> 00:13:06.799 Yeah. 00:13:06.799 --> 00:13:08.799 Where is the secret clock? 00:13:08.799 --> 00:13:11.440 Where like do they ref? 00:13:11.440 --> 00:13:12.639 Was it in like a drawer? 00:13:12.639 --> 00:13:15.919 Like they just like, we're like, oh, whoops, we forgot to put this out. 00:13:15.919 --> 00:13:19.039 There's like a replay guy upstairs, and they're like, all right, get the secret clock. 00:13:19.039 --> 00:13:22.720 And and you know, like it's like brought to you by DraftKings, right? 00:13:22.720 --> 00:13:24.480 They're like, this is the gambling clock. 00:13:24.480 --> 00:13:25.120 Yeah, yeah. 00:13:25.120 --> 00:13:26.639 Oh, he has one more second. 00:13:26.639 --> 00:13:30.000 So I mean, it is amazing that they also scored on the last play. 00:13:30.000 --> 00:13:31.840 Like, you know, like I mean, I hate that. 00:13:31.840 --> 00:13:33.440 I mean, yeah, that's true, right? 00:13:33.440 --> 00:13:35.200 You still have to make the miracle play. 00:13:35.200 --> 00:13:37.120 Yeah, but come on, right? 00:13:37.120 --> 00:13:40.000 Like, act like you've been there before, Michigan. 00:13:40.000 --> 00:13:40.720 Yeah, yeah. 00:13:40.720 --> 00:13:42.159 Yeah, it's a bad look for Michigan. 00:13:42.159 --> 00:13:44.720 Yeah, did you upstormed the field as a Michigan fan? 00:13:44.720 --> 00:13:48.320 Because I'll be honest, in college, I would probably would have been dumb enough to do that too, right? 00:13:48.320 --> 00:13:50.080 You'd just be excited for the win. 00:13:50.080 --> 00:13:51.120 Yeah, yeah. 00:13:51.120 --> 00:13:57.840 I mean, yeah, like if all your friends like that would take uh a lot of awareness and courage to just be like, you know what? 00:13:57.840 --> 00:13:59.360 I'm gonna back off and go home. 00:13:59.360 --> 00:14:05.120 Yeah, like you would probably we weren't aware or brave growing up, especially, you know. 00:14:05.120 --> 00:14:10.720 I mean, we were I think maybe I would I would have celebrated with a couple DP does and you know. 00:14:10.720 --> 00:14:14.639 Yeah, we were confused and not brave, basically. 00:14:14.639 --> 00:14:14.960 Yeah. 00:14:14.960 --> 00:14:17.360 Confused and we scared. 00:14:17.360 --> 00:14:20.559 And we just followed, we followed whatever the crowd did. 00:14:20.559 --> 00:14:21.759 But now we're different. 00:14:21.759 --> 00:14:23.279 We've grown and become stronger. 00:14:23.279 --> 00:14:24.639 Now we've done something unique. 00:14:24.639 --> 00:14:26.639 We've

started our own podcast. 00:14:26.639 --> 00:14:28.639 That's like one of the most unique games. 00:14:28.639 --> 00:14:30.960 I I think it's we talk about time. 00:14:30.960 --> 00:14:32.960 Yeah, we talk about time and sports. 00:14:32.960 --> 00:14:38.320 I mean, I we chose the most esoteric sport to be our main sport, which is football. 00:14:38.320 --> 00:14:40.240 So it's it's pretty wonderful. 00:14:40.240 --> 00:14:42.159 But but no, that's a great intro. 00:14:42.159 --> 00:14:46.399 Yeah, I mean, congrats to Western Michigan on we we we believe you did win that game. 00:14:46.399 --> 00:14:51.279 We actually, as a as a podcast, we acknowledge that as a Western Michigan win. 00:14:51.279 --> 00:14:53.840 We're gonna call Michigan 0 and 1. 00:14:53.840 --> 00:14:54.159 Yeah. 00:14:54.159 --> 00:14:55.039 Michigan's gonna be. 00:14:57.120 --> 00:14:59.360 Yeah, I mean, I'm not a college guy, but I'll go along with that. 00:14:59.360 --> 00:15:00.559 Well, you have the spreadsheet. 00:15:00.639 --> 00:15:01.200 You're in charge of it. 00:15:01.200 --> 00:15:02.159 Yeah, so I'm in. 00:15:02.159 --> 00:15:05.039 It's a zero, then a one, not a one, then a zero, okay? 00:15:05.039 --> 00:15:06.480 Yeah, that's how that scored. 00:15:06.480 --> 00:15:08.639 That's how the records work in college. 00:15:08.639 --> 00:15:09.120 Yeah. 00:15:09.120 --> 00:15:10.240 There's no tying in college. 00:15:10.240 --> 00:15:11.519 There's no tying in college. 00:15:11.519 --> 00:15:12.159 Oh, okay. 00:15:12.159 --> 00:15:18.240 Yeah, and like we're kind of since we're on the topic of time, we're kind of following like chronological here. 00:15:18.240 --> 00:15:24.159 So so on what on Wednesday night we had we had the Patriots Seahawks game, AJ Brown. 00:15:24.159 --> 00:15:24.639 We did. 00:15:24.639 --> 00:15:26.639 AJ Brown's out like three to six weeks. 00:15:26.639 --> 00:15:27.759 He got hurt. 00:15:27.759 --> 00:15:29.279 Seahawks won. 00:15:29.279 --> 00:15:32.399 Thursday, we have the game in Australia, 49ers, Rams. 00:15:32.399 --> 00:15:33.039 Melbourne. 00:15:33.039 --> 00:15:35.759 For college football fans, Saturday. 00:15:35.759 --> 00:15:39.440 You know, there's still a lot of lopsided games, but there is a huge college game that's gonna be. 00:15:39.440 --> 00:15:42.559 I believe it would be the buckeyes versus the long horns. 00:15:42.559 --> 00:15:47.200 So it's it's a it's a cattle against uh what like what is a buckeye? 00:15:47.200 --> 00:15:48.559 It's some sort of flower, right? 00:15:48.559 --> 00:15:50.639 It's a yeah, it's like a yeah. 00:15:50.639 --> 00:15:52.240 Yeah, I don't know what a buckeye is. 00:15:52.240 --> 00:15:52.879 That's a good question. 00:15:52.879 --> 00:15:53.360 Yeah. 00:15:53.360 --> 00:15:54.879 Um it'll be exciting. 00:15:54.879 --> 00:15:56.240 That'd be that'll be a big game. 00:15:56.240 --> 00:15:58.159 Both quarterbacks are like top top tier. 00:15:58.159 --> 00:16:00.320 One's Manning for Texas. 00:16:00.320 --> 00:16:01.519 Archie Manning. 00:16:01.519 --> 00:16:02.320 Archie, yeah, yeah. 00:16:02.320 --> 00:16:06.159 And then uh the Ohio State quarterback, he was like a Heisman candidate last year. 00:16:06.159 --> 00:16:07.120 Was he now? 00:16:07.120 --> 00:16:11.120 And they have a top wide receiver, of course, these Buckeye wide receivers, you know. 00:16:11.120 --> 00:16:13.039 I think there was a big game. 00:16:13.039 --> 00:16:16.399 Yeah, one former Buckeye receiver had quite the game last night. 00:16:16.399 --> 00:16:18.320 That would be JSN, right? 00:16:18.320 --> 00:16:18.799 Yeah, yeah. 00:16:18.799 --> 00:16:19.600 He won that single. 00:16:19.600 --> 00:16:22.639 I mean, he literally put on the cape and won that game. 00:16:22.639 --> 00:16:23.039 Yeah. 00:16:23.039 --> 00:16:27.120 Now I and Darnold got hurt, Drew Locke. 00:16:27.120 --> 00:16:31.919 I personally I have mixed feelings about AJ Brown leaving. 00:16:31.919 --> 00:16:33.200 I I've struggled with it. 00:16:33.200 --> 00:16:33.679 Yeah. 00:16:33.679 --> 00:16:35.600 I I hate the Patriots, right? 00:16:35.600 --> 00:16:37.759 Like that that's not news to anybody. 00:16:37.759 --> 00:16:43.519 Yeah and so I was kind of hate watching, but then when AJ went down and was grabbing his ankle, like that's no good. 00:16:43.519 --> 00:16:44.480 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:16:44.480 --> 00:16:46.159 Like I You don't like to see that. 00:16:46.159 --> 00:16:47.679 You don't like to see that, right? 00:16:47.679 --> 00:16:53.360 I and even even the Patriots, like, you don't want to you never want to win on that type of thing. 00:16:53.360 --> 00:16:55.440 But yeah, I mean it's it's very interesting. 00:16:55.440 --> 00:17:01.279 The Patriots offense, it does does AJ Brown, is it, is it the I guess it doesn't fit. 00:17:01.279 --> 00:17:06.799 You know, Bill Simmons always has the classic theory that would be the Patrick Ewing theory, right? 00:17:06.799 --> 00:17:11.920 That some like one of the arguably greatest players within the league can actually hold you back. 00:17:11.920 --> 00:17:17.359 In fact, right now we could argue that Miles Garrett is like the Patrick Ewing of the NFL. 00:17:17.359 --> 00:17:18.319 But I digress. 00:17:18.319 --> 00:17:29.119 Essentially, I'm saying, you know, does AJ Brown, does his presence and his gravity on an offensive play, like on the field, does that mess up the rest of your offense currently? 00:17:29.119 --> 00:17:30.640 Yeah, I mean it could. 00:17:30.640 --> 00:17:39.039 Like you there was like, you know, I I was even watching, like, I was wondering if May was trying to kind of try to force the ball to AJ because you, you know, he'll get upset if he doesn't get the ball. 00:17:39.039 --> 00:17:43.920 Yeah, I mean, they but they also need time to develop, you know, to get like chemistry together. 00:17:43.920 --> 00:17:46.640 So I so I I I still think I mean we'll see. 00:17:46.640 --> 00:17:49.920 I mean, May a lot of people say

Drake May is overrated. 00:17:49.920 --> 00:17:53.039 You know, he threw some bad, I mean, he made a really bad pass at the end there. 00:17:53.039 --> 00:17:56.480 They could have settled for the field goal to tie it up, but that was just a bad pass. 00:17:56.480 --> 00:17:57.680 But but yeah, we'll see. 00:17:57.680 --> 00:17:59.119 Yeah, I'm I'm with you on AJ. 00:17:59.119 --> 00:18:00.400 You don't like to see him get hurt. 00:18:00.400 --> 00:18:09.359 There is a part of our hearts that I think we'll always love and appreciate AJ Brown, one of the great, greatest wide receivers to ever put on the Eagles green. 00:18:09.359 --> 00:18:17.519 But the way he there is a also a I think a feeling of like betrayal that we feel with AJ Brown about the Eagles, at least I do. 00:18:17.519 --> 00:18:19.759 So it's yeah, it's somewhere in the middle. 00:18:19.759 --> 00:18:21.279 It's it's like this weird thing. 00:18:21.279 --> 00:18:27.359 And I think that and I s yeah, sorry, like before the game they did a segment with him and Drake May. 00:18:27.359 --> 00:18:38.000 Like they they were basically trying to like show like project that they're like best friends, and like it was it just like kind of made me sick, like even watching that, because I'm like I felt bad for Jalen Hurts. 00:18:38.000 --> 00:18:50.960 You know, I don't know all the details of what went sour in that relationship, but but yeah, I was just like that's like that's annoying that he's acting like Drake May is like the greatest guy ever, and like really you know, definitely disrespected Jalen Hurts in a sense, you know. 00:18:50.960 --> 00:18:55.759 Yeah, and and I I don't think it is a coincidence that he took number one. 00:18:55.759 --> 00:18:57.200 Um you know what I mean? 00:18:57.200 --> 00:19:01.759 There's like this bad it they really are like kind of like you know, in a feud almost. 00:19:01.759 --> 00:19:08.079 It's like maybe they were so close as friends that then you know it became like that that friction got a little too hot. 00:19:08.079 --> 00:19:08.720 Yeah. 00:19:08.720 --> 00:19:19.279 Yeah, I mean there you we could talk all podcasts about it, but I I mean I think with Saint Kwan's success was part of it, but but you know, like the the the big thing here is it's it's week one. 00:19:19.279 --> 00:19:23.839 This is the first time we're ever doing said hike podcast before week one of the Eagles. 00:19:23.839 --> 00:19:25.599 So this is super exciting night for us. 00:19:25.599 --> 00:19:27.200 It's pretty special too, right? 00:19:27.200 --> 00:19:29.279 Yeah, every podcast is special. 00:19:29.279 --> 00:19:33.519 This one's particularly but this one's the special special most special. 00:19:33.519 --> 00:19:34.079 Yeah. 00:19:34.079 --> 00:19:34.640 Yeah. 00:19:34.640 --> 00:19:40.079 This one's very special, and we wanted to really like celebrate this moment in a sense. 00:19:40.079 --> 00:19:44.720 Week one, Eagles were very excited for the season. 00:19:44.720

--> 00:19:49.359 They're playing the Washington, some call them the Commanders, we call them the Clarendons this week. 00:19:49.359 --> 00:19:58.799 And we have a special highly respected guest joining us, and we're very excited to have him join. 00:19:58.799 --> 00:19:59.519 Him. 00:19:59.519 --> 00:20:00.319 Who is it? 00:20:00.319 --> 00:20:05.680 It is not it's a very well respected guest. 00:20:05.680 --> 00:20:07.680 Who did the marketing department get this time? 00:20:07.680 --> 00:20:09.039 Panda famous. 00:20:09.039 --> 00:20:12.880 We watched him for pretty much all our lives and read his articles. 00:20:12.880 --> 00:20:18.160 Lesbow and Philadelphia Daily News and Philadelphia Inquirer Eagles writer. 00:20:18.160 --> 00:20:18.640 Whoa. 00:20:18.640 --> 00:20:19.759 Fantastic. 00:20:19.759 --> 00:20:20.000 Yeah. 00:20:20.000 --> 00:20:20.799 I'm excited. 00:20:20.799 --> 00:20:23.200 Let's see if we can get us on here, folks. 00:20:23.200 --> 00:20:24.400 Let's get him. 00:20:24.400 --> 00:20:25.759 It's ringing. 00:20:25.759 --> 00:20:26.240 Yeah. 00:20:26.240 --> 00:20:27.920 Sed Ike. 00:20:27.920 --> 00:20:28.799 Oh. 00:20:28.799 --> 00:20:29.440 Uh-oh. 00:20:29.440 --> 00:20:32.079 It's that third ring, you always get nervous. 00:20:32.079 --> 00:20:34.160 A fourth ring. 00:20:34.160 --> 00:20:35.119 Uh-oh. 00:20:35.119 --> 00:20:37.039 The media folks. 00:20:37.039 --> 00:20:38.720 We're hanging in there. 00:20:41.680 --> 00:20:42.480 I'll listen to it. 00:20:43.920 --> 00:20:44.400 All right. 00:20:44.400 --> 00:20:48.079 Well, well, we folks, we're gonna hang in there. 00:20:48.079 --> 00:20:51.599 We're having some technical difficulties, indifference of the guests. 00:20:51.599 --> 00:20:54.559 Uh very common in our line of work. 00:20:54.559 --> 00:20:59.680 Our producer is on strike, so we currently don't have anyone who can call while we're doing that. 00:20:59.680 --> 00:21:01.599 Hand to dandy sweating bullets. 00:21:01.599 --> 00:21:03.759 We'll we'll no, it's all good. 00:21:03.759 --> 00:21:04.400 That yeah. 00:21:04.400 --> 00:21:08.480 I know Les mentioned he's going to he was at the Phillies game today. 00:21:08.480 --> 00:21:10.319 Stat boy was at the Phillies game. 00:21:10.319 --> 00:21:17.039 So, you know, I know we had a long everyone uh had a long day, but but yeah, maybe we'll I'll I'll see what I can do to maybe have him stop. 00:21:17.039 --> 00:21:20.640 100% we won't worry about that, but I'll tell you what. 00:21:20.640 --> 00:21:24.000 But yeah, week one, what are your thoughts on on that? 00:21:24.000 --> 00:21:27.920 I think that week one is the first week, and I think that's very good. 00:21:27.920 --> 00:21:33.599 It's it's a valuable thing because if there's no week one, you never get to the Super Bowl. 00:21:33.599 --> 00:21:44.480 I feel like the Eagles currently are in a situation where everyone everyone's kind of giving this vibe of well, the defense is going to be fantastic. 00:21:44.480 -->

00:21:47.759 We have you we're gonna kind of lean on them. 00:21:47.759 --> 00:21:59.440 And I think uh there is some lopsided nature to the defensive side, but I actually think it manion might be able to put something together here, and I think the running game, if if we're healthy, could be. 00:21:59.440 --> 00:22:01.920 Vastly better than it was before. 00:22:01.920 --> 00:22:02.559 Yeah. 00:22:02.559 --> 00:22:04.079 No, I totally agree. 00:22:04.079 --> 00:22:04.559 Yeah. 00:22:04.559 --> 00:22:14.960 That's and I think it's important for us to figure out exactly where Mannion's going to be because I think it's a point of contention with us here in the podcast. 00:22:14.960 --> 00:22:15.839 Manion. 00:22:15.839 --> 00:22:16.240 Alright. 00:22:16.240 --> 00:22:16.640 Yeah. 00:22:16.640 --> 00:22:17.039 Maybe. 00:22:17.039 --> 00:22:18.799 Oh, I'm sorry. 00:22:18.799 --> 00:22:22.000 Do we I I I received our on the department? 00:22:22.000 --> 00:22:22.319 Yes. 00:22:22.319 --> 00:22:23.359 What were the names again? 00:22:23.359 --> 00:22:24.079 Randy and Doug. 00:22:24.079 --> 00:22:25.200 Yeah, Randy and Doug. 00:22:25.200 --> 00:22:26.400 Yeah, they all right. 00:22:26.400 --> 00:22:26.720 Go ahead. 00:22:26.720 --> 00:22:28.960 They said Les is available, so we should have a lot of things. 00:22:28.960 --> 00:22:29.599 Fantastic. 00:22:29.599 --> 00:22:30.400 Let's get it. 00:22:30.400 --> 00:22:32.559 Let's let's check our phone lines. 00:22:32.559 --> 00:22:35.440 I will not finish that thought because I lost it. 00:22:35.440 --> 00:22:37.599 But let's see if we can get LB on the phone. 00:22:37.599 --> 00:22:38.160 Yeah. 00:22:38.160 --> 00:22:40.000 That's what his friend's called. 00:22:40.000 --> 00:22:40.319 All right. 00:22:40.319 --> 00:22:41.759 He gave us the green light. 00:22:41.759 --> 00:22:42.079 All right. 00:22:42.079 --> 00:22:42.640 Here we go. 00:22:42.640 --> 00:22:43.920 Had to call the bat phone. 00:22:43.920 --> 00:22:44.640 Yeah. 00:22:44.960 --> 00:22:45.839 Hello, Dick. 00:22:45.839 --> 00:22:47.279 Hi, Les. 00:22:47.279 --> 00:22:48.079 This is Dr. 00:22:48.079 --> 00:22:49.839 Tad on the Seth Hug Podcast. 00:22:49.839 --> 00:22:50.720 How are you? 00:22:50.720 --> 00:22:51.680 Just great. 00:22:51.680 --> 00:22:52.880 I'm very sorry. 00:22:52.880 --> 00:22:54.640 I did not hear the phone. 00:22:54.640 --> 00:22:58.079 I have the phone on silent and I didn't realize you had called. 00:22:58.319 --> 00:23:00.160 Oh, that's not a problem at all. 00:23:00.160 --> 00:23:03.279 Let us first say it is an honor to have some of your time. 00:23:03.279 --> 00:23:09.039 You know, I I've been a big fan of the Daily News, Daily News Live, the Inquirer. 00:23:09.039 --> 00:23:17.680 It's it's just a wonderful thing for you to be able to just spend a little time with us because we're we're just chatting about the Eagles this year and what your thoughts. 00:23:18.160 --> 00:23:19.119 Sure, that's great. 00:23:19.119 --> 00:23:21.920 I'm I'm honored that you want to talk to me. 00:23:21.920 --> 00:23:26.880 I'm not exactly in the middle of everything right now, but I certainly have opinions. 00:23:27.200 --> 00:23:28.160 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:23:28.160 --> 00:23:32.799 Panda Dan here, Flez, thank you so much for uh joining, like Dr. 00:23:32.799 --> 00:23:33.599 Tat said. 00:23:33.599 --> 00:23:39.200 Yeah, you I mean the timing's perfect too for you know week one year, season opener. 00:23:39.200 --> 00:23:40.960 I guess just a start. 00:23:40.960 --> 00:23:43.039 Yeah, like what are your thoughts? 00:23:43.039 --> 00:23:45.200 I would say like for the season, you know. 00:23:45.200 --> 00:23:52.480 I'm just thinking we're we're here in year six of Siriani and Hertz as the full time, you know, if Hertz is the full-time starter. 00:23:52.480 --> 00:23:56.000 You know, it's like I'm like, is this a Super Bowl contender? 00:23:56.000 --> 00:23:57.279 Is it a playoff team? 00:23:57.279 --> 00:24:01.759 And then I even hear some people say that it's not a, you know, they they might miss the playoffs. 00:24:01.759 --> 00:24:07.119 So kind of where are you on that spectrum of where you think the Eagles are at this moment in time? 00:24:07.599 --> 00:24:13.599 Well, certainly in terms of talent, the Eagles have the talent to be a Super Bowl contender. 00:24:13.599 --> 00:24:25.279 I think if there's any uncertainty, it has to do with the fact that they're going to a completely different offensive system than they've ever run before for everybody. 00:24:25.279 --> 00:24:30.160 If the offensive everything has changed for the offensive line, everything has changed for the quarterback. 00:24:30.160 --> 00:24:35.519 They they've lost AJ Brown, who was their top passing game weapon. 00:24:35.519 --> 00:24:43.039 So I think there's a lot there's a lot offensively to be to be shown here, but there's certainly still a lot of talent. 00:24:43.039 --> 00:24:51.279 If the offensive line is healthy, yeah, it should be a productive offense, assuming that the new offensive coordinator knows what he's doing. 00:24:51.279 --> 00:24:54.720 And everybody knows the defense is the defense. 00:24:54.720 --> 00:24:56.240 You know, it's Vic Fangio. 00:24:56.240 --> 00:25:00.079 Every year that he's been here, it's been a very, very good defense. 00:25:00.079 --> 00:25:05.039 It even if it's not the very best you ever saw, it's it's good, you know. 00:25:05.039 --> 00:25:13.599 Uh so yeah, they're they're contenders, but it's a tough div it's tough not a tough division, but a tough conference. 00:25:13.599 --> 00:25:17.680 I'm watching right now the Rams and the 49ers from Melbourne. 00:25:17.680 --> 00:25:28.559 Yeah, and the Rams are supposedly a super team after you know acquiring Miles Garrett and Trent McDuffie and people like that, and and even getting Aaron Donald out of retirement. 00:25:28.640 --> 00:25:28.960 Yeah. 00:25:29.119 --> 00:25:34.799 So, you know, nothing is assured for the

Eagles, but certainly they're they're a strong contender. 00:25:35.119 --> 00:25:40.400 Leslie like the I uh I can't think of a better person less than to you to talk about. 00:25:40.400 --> 00:25:50.160 Now, I I believe maybe in the Eagles history and Eagles or uh Packers' former quarterback coach may have become an important factor in the Eagles history. 00:25:50.160 --> 00:25:51.839 Uh there was this guy named Andy. 00:25:51.839 --> 00:25:53.200 I I can't remember what was it? 00:25:53.200 --> 00:25:54.000 Andy Reid. 00:25:54.000 --> 00:25:54.799 That's it. 00:25:54.799 --> 00:25:59.519 So, you know, I actually think about this a lot that there may be some analogies here. 00:25:59.519 --> 00:26:08.319 You know, I wonder if you feel that there's some parallels where, you know, you had that vaunted Jim Johnson defense, which is almost uh the yin to the yang of Fangio, right? 00:26:08.319 --> 00:26:15.839 That was just Jim Johnson would just absolutely just blitz people to heck, and he had the back, you know, the secondary to back it up. 00:26:15.839 --> 00:26:20.720 You know, do you feel like Mannion could have a similar impact the way Andy Reed did early in his career? 00:26:21.119 --> 00:26:22.480 Yeah, that is a good parallel. 00:26:22.480 --> 00:26:22.960 You're right. 00:26:22.960 --> 00:26:38.240 I mean, they're very different in that Andy Reed never played in the NFL, but he had been a coach for a while, even though if he hadn't been a coordinator or a head coach, he had been coaching in the league for a few teams, you know, and and several years. 00:26:38.240 --> 00:26:41.440 Sean Mannion was playing just a couple years ago. 00:26:41.440 --> 00:26:56.720 He's a very inexperienced coach, but he also knows an awful lot about offense systems, and you know, he seems like a really sharp guy, and yeah, I think they're pretty confident he can do this. 00:26:56.720 --> 00:27:03.359 But you're right, the those teams, the early Andy Reed teams, I started covering the Eagles in 2002. 00:27:03.359 --> 00:27:08.720 So it wasn't like the first year of Andy, it was like the third year of Andy, I guess, or fourth. 00:27:08.720 --> 00:27:20.559 And those early teams didn't have a lot of offensive talent other than Donovan McNabb and a pretty good offensive line, and maybe Deuce Staley. 00:27:20.559 --> 00:27:24.079 But they had a great defense, and that was a bit of a shame. 00:27:24.079 --> 00:27:29.200 I think if they'd had a little more offensive talent, they would have won a Super Bowl. 00:27:29.200 --> 00:27:51.759 But the window for the defense kind of closed a little early for them, you know, before McNabb was really everything he could be, and before they had the great talent around him that you know, and it but you know, the they obviously lost the Super Bowl in in 2005, just barely by three points. 00:27:51.759 --> 00:28:01.599 And then they had that year in 2008 where Deshaun Jackson was a rookie and he was incredible, and you know, they were

the offense was good enough that year. 00:28:01.759 --> 00:28:04.240 Yeah, NFC Championship that year to win. 00:28:04.480 --> 00:28:15.839 But the defense by that time, that was actually the year that Jim Johnson became ill and was by the playoffs, he was coaching from a mobile scooter, you know, dying of cancer. 00:28:15.839 --> 00:28:19.519 And, you know, the defense wasn't wasn't good enough by then. 00:28:19.519 --> 00:28:22.240 It had lost a lot of of talent. 00:28:22.240 --> 00:28:26.000 It's really hard to marry these things up in the NFL. 00:28:26.000 --> 00:28:28.160 You're spending money somewhere. 00:28:28.160 --> 00:28:32.799 And if you're spending it on your defense, maybe you're not spending it on your offense. 00:28:32.799 --> 00:28:42.160 And if you're spending it on your offense, maybe you're not, you know, maybe your defense isn't really doesn't have a lot of veteran all pros uh on it. 00:28:42.160 --> 00:28:44.319 Uh it's a tricky thing to get right. 00:28:44.319 --> 00:28:44.960 Oh yeah. 00:28:45.119 --> 00:28:47.359 Um Hey Les, I just I want to jump in real quick. 00:28:47.359 --> 00:28:49.119 I I'm stat boy over here on this team. 00:28:49.119 --> 00:28:56.720 I I tend to just help out with some just fact-checking, but I I'm just impressed by all the encyclopedia knowledge that you retain for the Eagles history. 00:28:56.720 --> 00:28:59.359 I mean, I'm sitting here and just being like, oh man, I remember that, remember that. 00:28:59.359 --> 00:29:08.319 So hearing you recall that is amazing, and and listening to your voice, basically you're your speaking of your your articles that you've written are is fantastic. 00:29:08.319 --> 00:29:20.319 But I guess the the one piece I wanted to bring up there was that like Sean Mannion right now, I know he's been talking about him and his being kind of a useful coach right now from an offensive corner standpoint, but what I mean, do you see him similar to in the ways of like Kellen Moore? 00:29:20.319 --> 00:29:24.480 Because Kellen Moore was a former player and it's a 38-year-old head coach now. 00:29:24.480 --> 00:29:28.319 So are we just kind of like doing the same thing with with like a Kellen Moore? 00:29:28.319 --> 00:29:30.160 I'll sign up for the two-year cycle, right? 00:29:30.319 --> 00:29:31.759 We're on the good part of the cycle, Les. 00:29:31.759 --> 00:29:32.880 This is the Super Bowl year. 00:29:32.880 --> 00:29:34.720 It seems to work for our coach. 00:29:34.720 --> 00:29:37.279 Why don't we why don't we figure I'll stick in this cycle forever? 00:29:37.279 --> 00:29:38.720 Yeah, I'll be honest with you. 00:29:39.519 --> 00:29:41.759 Yeah, well, there are a lot of similarities. 00:29:41.759 --> 00:29:45.680 Same deal, backup quarterback, you know, really smart. 00:29:45.680 --> 00:29:49.200 But Kellen Moore had been a coach a little longer with the Eagles. 00:29:49.200 --> 00:29:56.880 Also, the biggest difference is they didn't really change the offense that much when they went to Kellen Moore. 00:29:56.880 --> 00:30:02.240 I mean, it's been there's a lot said about oh, they have a different offensive coordinator every year. 00:30:02.240 --> 00:30:18.079 But it until now, it's always the offense they were running, and the different coordinators would put a different bin on it every time, you know, and and with Moore, that was the year they got Saquon Barkley and they figured out the bye week. 00:30:18.079 --> 00:30:19.119 They were two in two. 00:30:19.119 --> 00:30:25.440 They went to the bye week and figured out that, hey, you know, we have a great offensive line, we have Saquon Barkley. 00:30:25.440 --> 00:30:27.440 Maybe we should be a running team. 00:30:27.599 --> 00:30:28.559 And they did that. 00:30:28.559 --> 00:30:31.680 And Ciriani shaved his head at that time, too, right? 00:30:31.680 --> 00:30:32.160 Yeah. 00:30:32.160 --> 00:30:37.599 Yeah, it was like it was like De Niro in Taxi, uh, you know, taxi drive driveway. 00:30:37.599 --> 00:30:43.680 It was pretty pretty graphic, but fortunately, I don't think any any homicides have been confirmed during that time. 00:30:43.680 --> 00:30:52.799 But I think Les, another good point you make is, yeah, perhaps the the departure of Stoutland may be a bigger change than what we'll see. 00:30:52.799 --> 00:30:56.559 And, you know, I I think I'm a, you know, I'm a I have a background. 00:30:56.559 --> 00:31:05.279 I I played some college ball and I was I was trained under kind of the zone schemes like Shanahan-esque acolyte over at Syracuse. 00:31:05.279 --> 00:31:08.240 And I I I'm a big believer in zone blocking. 00:31:08.240 --> 00:31:14.880 It's something where, you know, you hear Lane, you hear Jordan, you hear all the O linemen saying, hey, the rules get a lot simpler, man. 00:31:14.880 --> 00:31:19.119 I go to this space, whatever jersey that's not my colors in that space, I hit it. 00:31:19.119 --> 00:31:26.640 And it'll be interesting to see how Saquon can maybe do the kind of run to the run to the uh stretch zone and make that cut. 00:31:26.640 --> 00:31:29.920 And I think Saquon would be really well managed for that. 00:31:30.240 --> 00:31:31.440 That's a very good point. 00:31:31.440 --> 00:31:33.599 And you illustrated it very well. 00:31:33.599 --> 00:31:36.559 My only qualm, well, I have two qualms with this. 00:31:36.559 --> 00:31:41.599 One is Stoutland is probably the best position coach in Eagles history. 00:31:41.599 --> 00:31:43.440 Yeah, oh, totally agree. 00:31:43.440 --> 00:31:48.880 I mean, they sold those Stoutland University shirts and sweatshirts and things, you know, for a reason. 00:31:48.880 --> 00:31:49.359 Yeah. 00:31:49.359 --> 00:31:53.920 So you're losing something there, particularly in terms of player development. 00:31:53.920 --> 00:31:54.720 You know? 00:31:54.720 --> 00:32:06.640 But the other thing is all these guys that they have were acquired, drafted, signed, to play Stoutland's style. 00:32:06.640 -->

00:32:12.960 The pin pull, the duo, you know, the upfront, the inside zone kind of stuff. 00:32:12.960 --> 00:32:19.119 You wouldn't draft Landon Dickerson in the second round to play this system. 00:32:19.119 --> 00:32:19.839 Yeah. 00:32:19.839 --> 00:32:20.640 Great point. 00:32:20.640 --> 00:32:25.200 I mean, he runs, I don't know what he runs, but it's like a 5'2 40 or something. 00:32:25.200 --> 00:32:27.839 You know, I mean, he's not he's not a guy. 00:32:27.839 --> 00:32:31.599 I mean, Elaine Johnson is a unicorn. 00:32:31.599 --> 00:32:32.640 He can do anything. 00:32:32.640 --> 00:32:34.160 I mean, he's so athletic. 00:32:34.160 --> 00:32:34.480 Yeah. 00:32:34.480 --> 00:32:38.000 He's the best offensive lineman ever. 00:32:38.000 --> 00:32:41.680 You know, he was the fourth overall pick in the draft. 00:32:41.680 --> 00:32:47.200 Sure, you can you can run outside zone with him, even at age 36. 00:32:47.200 --> 00:32:53.440 But I don't know, you know, that you can that you're gonna be successful with some of these guys. 00:32:53.440 --> 00:32:59.440 Fred Johnson is their top swing tackle, you know, the guy who's gonna come in if either of the tackles get hurt. 00:32:59.440 --> 00:33:03.200 Fred's not an outside zone, and he had a bad training camp. 00:33:03.200 --> 00:33:07.519 You know, I mean, he's a big, powerful guy who doesn't move very well. 00:33:07.519 --> 00:33:09.920 And this is not that kind of system. 00:33:09.920 --> 00:33:20.240 You know, I this system maybe guys like Willie Lampkin maybe are a little more, you know, of what the system requires. 00:33:20.240 --> 00:33:20.799 I don't know. 00:33:20.799 --> 00:33:22.799 I mean, I never played any of this song. 00:33:23.039 --> 00:33:24.880 Oh no, you just said Willie Lampkin. 00:33:25.200 --> 00:33:27.599 Yeah, you just hit. 00:33:27.599 --> 00:33:38.079 I mean, i i I was a fan as a child of the Pee-wee Herman show, and you know, everyone go crazy with a special word, but Willie Lampkin is someone on this podcast that I've been singing his praises for a long time. 00:33:38.079 --> 00:33:42.640 He actually was a Ram initially, and we poached him from the practice squad. 00:33:42.640 --> 00:33:51.519 I thought both he and Mark Lell were like really some of the bright spots of a very rather dismal, you know, offensive output this preseason. 00:33:51.519 --> 00:33:59.200 And so I I'd be very interested to see if the opportunity presents itself, whether or not either of those two would go in. 00:33:59.200 --> 00:34:01.440 But you know, I think you have to have some constant too. 00:34:01.440 --> 00:34:03.440 You have to have some consternation with that, right, Les? 00:34:03.440 --> 00:34:14.320 I mean, when you're that green, I mean, i it's it's one thing in the preseason, but man, when you're going against Dexter Lawrence, who I guess he's a Bengle now, but you know, the big names in on the defensive line. 00:34:14.320 --> 00:34:14.800 Yeah. 00:34:15.039 --> 00:34:18.480 Yeah, I

think Lambton has to play center in real games. 00:34:18.480 --> 00:34:25.599 I mean, I know they used him at guard some in the preseason, but I don't see him playing guard, you know, in the regular season. 00:34:25.599 --> 00:34:26.079 Agreed. 00:34:26.079 --> 00:34:30.639 I mean, maybe I'm wrong, but I think you can be a center and be really small. 00:34:30.639 --> 00:34:32.800 He's he's like 280. 00:34:32.800 --> 00:34:35.760 I guess he whatever his height is, 5'10, 5'11. 00:34:35.760 --> 00:34:40.800 Jason Kelsey, who I'm watching right now on a commercial on the on the game. 00:34:40.800 --> 00:34:52.559 When Jason Kelsey showed up with the Eagles as a sixth-round pick, a converted linebacker from Cincinnati, he wa he was taller than William Apkin, but he weighed about 280. 00:34:52.559 --> 00:34:55.440 He wasn't, you know, he wasn't very big. 00:34:55.440 --> 00:35:07.519 You can get away with having a small center unless he's playing like a gigantic new nose-tackle who's incredibly, you know, powerful and and overwhelming. 00:35:07.519 --> 00:35:11.599 You could certainly have a small center, but I don't know about guard. 00:35:11.599 --> 00:35:13.920 I don't know you can have a guy that size playing guard. 00:35:13.920 --> 00:35:14.960 Maybe you can. 00:35:14.960 --> 00:35:15.599 I don't know. 00:35:15.599 --> 00:35:18.159 But uh it it doesn't seem likely to me. 00:35:18.480 --> 00:35:18.880 Yeah. 00:35:18.880 --> 00:35:19.360 Yeah. 00:35:19.360 --> 00:35:19.920 Yeah. 00:35:19.920 --> 00:35:21.760 I mean, staying on the offense. 00:35:21.760 --> 00:35:25.920 I mean, yeah, so like I'm trying to envision how this the season might go. 00:35:25.920 --> 00:35:32.559 I'm I'm really hoping that you know Saquon and the offensive line can regain that form of the Super Bowl year. 00:35:32.559 --> 00:35:37.920 I'm really excited for Devontae Smith to be the number one and a team captain this year. 00:35:37.920 --> 00:35:46.639 I did want to get your thoughts, Les, on where where I'm kind of thinking how it might go is that second passing option behind Devante. 00:35:46.639 --> 00:35:54.000 Like it could either be Lemon, it could be Dontavian Wicks, it could be, and then we still got Dallas Goddard as well. 00:35:54.000 --> 00:35:54.480 Right. 00:35:54.480 --> 00:35:54.719 Yeah. 00:35:54.719 --> 00:36:00.559 Um obviously I think they were hoping Eli Stowers would be, you know, in that discussion too. 00:36:00.559 --> 00:36:09.039 But but yeah, just wanted to get your thoughts on yeah, like in order for us to be a Super Bowl contender, we will need a a good second passing option. 00:36:09.039 --> 00:36:09.920 No doubt. 00:36:10.239 --> 00:36:10.880 Absolutely. 00:36:10.880 --> 00:36:19.679 And I think even though I don't fault the Eagles for the whole AJ Brown thing, I think that was all AJ Brown's doing. 00:36:19.679 --> 00:36:20.079 Yeah. 00:36:20.079 --> 00:36:25.440 It's a huge, it's a huge uh thing to take away, you know? 00:36:25.440 --> 00:36:26.719 I mean, it really is. 00:36:26.719 --> 00:36:36.320 And it didn't help at all that Lemon missed so much time and was really rusty when he finally got in that last preseason game. 00:36:36.320 --> 00:36:41.119 I can't imagine that guy's really ready to make much of a contribution right now. 00:36:41.119 --> 00:36:46.559 I think it's gonna have to be Wicks and Goddard, you know, other than Smith. 00:36:46.559 --> 00:36:50.320 And I think you're gonna see him run the ball a lot, at least in week one. 00:36:50.320 --> 00:36:58.559 You're facing a defense that you ought to be able to do that against, and a team that's probably not gonna score a whole lot of points against you. 00:36:58.559 --> 00:37:05.840 I I would think they'd be you know, Lemon eventually, but right now, no. 00:37:05.840 --> 00:37:12.159 And even when Lemon gets going, he's never gonna physically be AJ Brown. 00:37:12.159 --> 00:37:26.000 And Devontae, as great a receiver as he is, and I love the guy, and I you know, I was there the night that he was drafted in Cleveland, and I went to his hometown in Louisiana and did a story when he was a rookie. 00:37:26.000 --> 00:37:28.480 But he's physically, he's not A.J. 00:37:28.480 --> 00:37:29.199 Brown either. 00:37:29.199 --> 00:37:41.039 You know, I mean, that the guy that can just outphysical the defense and get a jump ball, you know, anytime you want, I it's it's it's awful to lose that. 00:37:41.039 --> 00:37:41.760 It really is. 00:37:41.760 --> 00:37:42.639 It's tough. 00:37:42.639 --> 00:37:44.880 It's gonna be very, very tough. 00:37:44.880 --> 00:37:48.880 And it's not gonna be you're gonna feel that loss. 00:37:48.880 --> 00:37:54.400 You know, it's not gonna be like, oh, you know, we who even remembers that they had AJ Grapp. 00:37:54.400 --> 00:37:56.239 I mean, it's not gonna be like that. 00:37:56.559 --> 00:37:56.960 Yeah. 00:37:56.960 --> 00:37:57.599 Yeah. 00:37:57.599 --> 00:38:00.400 Yeah, I think with Wicks himself, I mean, just the player. 00:38:00.400 --> 00:38:05.119 I mean, I watched a little bit of him in Green Bay, and I think he has the capability of separating really well. 00:38:05.119 --> 00:38:07.920 I think he can find open space on the field and get open. 00:38:07.920 --> 00:38:10.400 The problem with him is making the catch. 00:38:10.400 --> 00:38:12.400 And I feel like that's where we'll feel it, right? 00:38:12.400 --> 00:38:24.400 We'll we'll have this situation where we, oh, he's open, we got it, and then he drops it almost like an Al Nelson Aguilar situation where, you know, it should have been caught, and it's like now we're we're remembering what AJ would have done there in that situation. 00:38:24.719 --> 00:38:26.159 Yeah, that's a killer too. 00:38:26.159 --> 00:38:36.639 You know, if you watched that game last night, Romeo Dobbs, uh the one drop he had right before an interception probably changed the game. 00:38:36.639 --> 00:38:37.519 You know? 00:38:37.519 --> 00:38:40.719 I

mean, you can say, well, that happens to everybody. 00:38:40.719 --> 00:38:45.360 He was trying to run with it before he caught it, and then it does, but it changed the game. 00:38:45.360 --> 00:38:46.239 It really did. 00:38:46.239 --> 00:38:46.559 Right. 00:38:46.559 --> 00:38:54.239 He's probably you know, had more to do with the team losing than almost anything else that happened other than that final play at the very end. 00:38:54.239 --> 00:38:57.440 But you know, it you can't have that. 00:38:57.440 --> 00:39:05.360 You just unless your margin for error is is huge, you know, that's that's gonna be a problem. 00:39:05.760 --> 00:39:06.559 Yeah, yeah. 00:39:06.559 --> 00:39:07.280 But yeah. 00:39:07.280 --> 00:39:12.159 But it's a great opportunity for them for Wicks, Goddard, so we're super excited about that. 00:39:12.159 --> 00:39:14.239 How about one question on the defense, too? 00:39:14.239 --> 00:39:17.360 Obviously, so many stars, so much talent, like you said. 00:39:17.360 --> 00:39:21.199 One guy I've been hearing a lot of hype about is Jelix Hunt. 00:39:21.199 --> 00:39:25.840 Do you think do you think he could emerge as like a real leader on the defense this year? 00:39:26.159 --> 00:39:27.760 It sure looks like it, guys. 00:39:27.760 --> 00:39:40.800 I mean, I don't know, but I I love he had a great year last year, uh kind of under the radar, kind of building his the deal with him is so he was a safety at Cornell. 00:39:40.800 --> 00:39:42.880 Yeah, that's crazy. 00:39:42.880 --> 00:39:43.840 It's incredible. 00:39:43.840 --> 00:39:47.199 Uh and he hasn't really played edge rusher that long. 00:39:47.199 --> 00:39:54.079 And he at a very high level, you know, and he really needed the work and the coaching and all that stuff. 00:39:54.079 --> 00:39:56.639 But I think there's a lot to be developed there. 00:39:56.639 --> 00:40:03.760 You know, I think there's an incredible amount of talent that can, you know, that they can tap into. 00:40:03.760 --> 00:40:10.320 And that I I really think he's gonna be he's gonna be very, very prominent this year, and they're gonna need him to be. 00:40:10.320 --> 00:40:16.960 You know, their edge rush last year wasn't great, wasn't as good as it was the uh the Super Bowl year. 00:40:16.960 --> 00:40:18.320 And they were very lucky. 00:40:18.320 --> 00:40:21.840 They got Jalen Phillips during the season, and he helped quite a bit. 00:40:21.840 --> 00:40:22.480 Yeah. 00:40:22.480 --> 00:40:29.440 But he's gone, and the guy that they signed to replace him, we don't know when he's gonna play. 00:40:29.440 --> 00:40:33.360 I can't imagine it'll be this week, even though they're trying to be cagey about that. 00:40:33.360 --> 00:40:39.360 So they're getting the Jalex Hunt to have a huge year, I think, to be to be really great. 00:40:39.360 --> 00:40:46.239 I mean, not to be okay, but to be really great, they're gonna need double-digit sacks from a guy like that, probably. 00:40:46.559 --> 00:40:47.119 Well, that's a lot. 00:40:47.119 --> 00:40:56.159 Now, Les, when I when I squint my eyes and I look at Jalex Hunt playing, I sometimes I think about a fifth round pick out of Cincinnati uh by the name of Trent Cole. 00:40:56.159 --> 00:41:00.960 I mean, I think he really I mean, that might be the ceiling for this guy, which would be stupendous, right? 00:41:00.960 --> 00:41:01.519 I'll take that. 00:41:01.679 --> 00:41:02.960 I mean it sure would. 00:41:02.960 --> 00:41:03.360 Yeah. 00:41:03.360 --> 00:41:07.840 It was unfortunate for Trent that he never played on a great team, you know. 00:41:07.840 --> 00:41:18.239 His career was spent late Andy Reid and early Chip Kelly, you know, before Doug Peterson came on board and before they started going to the Super Bowl again. 00:41:18.239 --> 00:41:24.559 Trent kind of gets lost in the people don't talk about Trent a whole lot, but that was a great player, it really was. 00:41:24.559 --> 00:41:26.800 And that's a good that's a good pull. 00:41:26.800 --> 00:41:28.159 I think, yeah. 00:41:28.159 --> 00:41:37.519 I think Trent wasn't a big guy, which is why he was drafted in the fifth round, you know, and but he had that incredible quickness and that intensity. 00:41:37.519 --> 00:41:43.440 He did that his his eyes were just like uh, you know, this is a guy who's crazy, you know. 00:41:43.760 --> 00:41:45.360 I mean his eyes actually looked really good too. 00:41:45.360 --> 00:41:46.960 If you actually looked at it, it's just go eyes. 00:41:46.960 --> 00:41:47.760 Yeah, yeah. 00:41:47.920 --> 00:41:52.239 He it it's just I I I find that it's just been well it's really cool. 00:41:52.239 --> 00:41:56.480 And I I think you were you've been able to see uh the ebb and flow of the Eagles. 00:41:56.480 --> 00:42:00.239 And I think once Andy Reid came in, it it really changed. 00:42:00.239 --> 00:42:03.039 Uh and I think in concert with Jeffrey Laurie, right? 00:42:03.039 --> 00:42:08.000 The the Eagles became a far different team than they were back in the early 90s, right? 00:42:08.000 --> 00:42:13.599 You know, you did have uh the great Ray Rhodes, gangrene, and I think were you in Charlotte at that time, Les? 00:42:13.599 --> 00:42:16.159 I or where when did you get to the city of Philadelphia? 00:42:16.159 --> 00:42:19.039 I know you covered the Sixers and the uh Flyers as well. 00:42:19.360 --> 00:42:20.639 Yeah, mostly Flyers. 00:42:20.639 --> 00:42:23.199 I uh we moved to Philly in '83, actually. 00:42:23.199 --> 00:42:24.079 Oh yes. 00:42:24.079 --> 00:42:24.639 Wow. 00:42:24.639 --> 00:42:25.519 That's a good year. 00:42:25.519 --> 00:42:27.360 Yeah, I was in Charlotte before that. 00:42:27.360 --> 00:42:28.079 Yeah. 00:42:28.079 --> 00:42:37.519 But I was I was a copy editor at the Daily News for a while, you know, writing headlines and reading really good writing, which helped me quite a bit. 00:42:37.519 --> 00:42:48.079 Reading Mark Wicker and Stan Hockman and Rich Hoffman and some of the best,

yeah. 00:42:48.079 --> 00:42:54.480 So but and I started covering the Flyers in '89, and I covered them until 2002. 00:42:54.480 --> 00:42:56.639 I the whole Eric Lindras era. 00:42:56.639 --> 00:42:58.079 I covered the Flyers. 00:42:58.079 --> 00:43:04.800 But I paid attention to the Eagles, obviously, you can't be in Philadelphia and not know what's going on with the Eagles. 00:43:04.800 --> 00:43:07.920 Yeah, it's you're right, though. 00:43:07.920 --> 00:43:15.599 This century is so different for young people who become Eagles fans. 00:43:15.599 --> 00:43:20.880 They have no idea what I think being an Eagles fan was like for so many years. 00:43:20.880 --> 00:43:26.239 And even before I moved here, you know, the there was so little. 00:43:26.239 --> 00:43:28.960 The Eagles never had good ownership. 00:43:28.960 --> 00:43:30.960 They never had their own building. 00:43:30.960 --> 00:43:41.760 It was they won the NFL championship in 1948 and 49, and the team was sold between those two seats. 00:43:41.760 --> 00:43:43.360 That's a wild fact. 00:43:43.360 --> 00:43:44.239 That is strange. 00:43:44.239 --> 00:43:45.440 I mean, that speaks volume. 00:43:45.440 --> 00:43:50.079 No, I mean, it was just never a stable, solid organization. 00:43:50.079 --> 00:43:55.199 Leonard Toase tried to move the team to Arizona, almost did. 00:43:55.199 --> 00:43:56.159 Yeah. 00:43:56.159 --> 00:43:59.440 You know, it was just always. 00:43:59.440 --> 00:44:05.360 kind of like a bad organization that occasionally had good teams, you know? 00:44:05.360 --> 00:44:05.920 Yeah. 00:44:05.920 --> 00:44:09.440 And so Lurie bought the team and things changed. 00:44:09.440 --> 00:44:14.400 And it took a little while for things to really develop. 00:44:14.400 --> 00:44:27.360 But you know, this century has been so much better than anything that ever happened before in terms of consistent winning and you know expectations from year to year. 00:44:27.360 --> 00:44:31.280 Yeah, they don't win every year, obviously, but they win games every year. 00:44:31.280 --> 00:44:35.440 They're never they're almost never a terrible team, you know. 00:44:35.760 --> 00:44:36.079 Yeah. 00:44:36.480 --> 00:44:38.400 Yeah, Les, you bring up a great point. 00:44:38.400 --> 00:44:43.440 I have a seven-year-old son, and so he's he's really just always known as you know playoff run. 00:44:43.440 --> 00:44:48.480 And we were talking about the record for the season and I told my son his name's Tommy. 00:44:48.480 --> 00:44:51.760 I told him, you know, they I think they're going to go 11 and 6. 00:44:51.760 --> 00:44:53.920 And he was like 11 and 6. 00:44:53.920 --> 00:45:04.480 And you know, I mean they're just I'll take that you know the the child has seen three 14 and three seasons in seven, you know, uh of 40% of his life. 00:45:04.480 --> 00:45:06.960 So I I think we have enjoyed it. 00:45:07.199 --> 00:45:07.440 Yeah. 00:45:07.440 --> 00:45:13.599 40 years ago if you told an Eagles fan they were going to win 11 games in the season, they would have been ecstatic. 00:45:13.599 --> 00:45:16.320 You know it was it was pretty grim. 00:45:16.639 --> 00:45:19.199 Yeah they'd say I'd I'm smoking what you're going to smoke, man. 00:45:19.199 --> 00:45:21.519 That's because that was not what was coming. 00:45:21.519 --> 00:45:25.519 But but yeah so uh thanks again for taking the time with us last year. 00:45:25.519 --> 00:45:27.519 What are your thoughts on the overall season? 00:45:27.920 --> 00:45:32.880 You know I think uh we'll see what this offense does and we'll see if they're healthy. 00:45:32.880 --> 00:45:46.159 The O-line if the O-line stays healthy and this offense and the offensive coordinator you know aren't terrible it'll they'll win the East again even though I think Dallas is going to be good this year. 00:45:46.159 --> 00:45:46.400 Yeah. 00:45:46.400 --> 00:45:50.159 I don't think the commanders of the Giants are going to be really good. 00:45:50.159 --> 00:45:53.360 You know they might be mediocre but they're not going to be good. 00:45:53.360 --> 00:46:01.360 I think they win the division and we'll see what happens after that in the playoffs with all these teams like the Rams that are supposed to be great. 00:46:01.360 --> 00:46:14.159 You know we'll see if they get sometimes you I know from my years of covering the Flyers, you know, you get to the playoffs and you're thinking oh you can't get past this team and then that team loses to somebody else. 00:46:14.159 --> 00:46:19.760 And you're like, oh well they could have gotten past that team actually because they wouldn't have played them. 00:46:19.760 --> 00:46:20.800 Yeah that's true. 00:46:20.800 --> 00:46:26.960 You know I mean you don't know what the Rams that they're going to play the Rams in the playoffs or that the Rams are going to be healthy. 00:46:26.960 --> 00:46:38.639 You know Matthew Stafford's 37 years old who knows you know but I think the Eagles will have a good year I think 11 or 12 wins and I think we'll just see what happens when they get to January. 00:46:39.119 --> 00:46:39.599 Yep. 00:46:39.920 --> 00:46:43.280 So Les I know we're kind of I know we're we really appreciate your time tonight. 00:46:43.280 --> 00:46:46.800 We don't want to be spent we could spend all night talking yet honestly it's been so fun. 00:46:46.800 --> 00:46:47.280 Yeah. 00:46:47.280 --> 00:46:47.599 Yeah. 00:46:47.599 --> 00:46:57.039 But I mean one of the questions I really wanted to ask myself I know some breaking news came out recently that uh Sean Marion uh will be in the booth for this game. 00:46:57.039 --> 00:47:03.360 And I think a lot of our internal discussions with amongst the team here is, you know, what what kind of uh coaching do you like? 00:47:03.360 --> 00:47:05.440 Do you like being the booth or rather be on the sideline? 00:47:05.440 --> 00:47:06.800 And I know you're a press box guy. 00:47:06.800 --> 00:47:08.239 You know you you wrote from the press box.

00:47:08.480 --> 00:47:15.679 Yeah I never well I you know early in my career in Charlotte I covered a semi trade team. 00:47:15.679 --> 00:47:24.480 It was really a lot of fun and some of the a lot of the players actually played in the USFL after they played for that team but I was on the sideline a lot. 00:47:24.480 --> 00:47:27.360 And the thing that I learned is you can't see a damn thing. 00:47:27.360 --> 00:47:29.119 That's a great point. 00:47:29.119 --> 00:47:43.599 I mean you get a very good feel for what people are thinking and what they're you know the emotions and the hitting and and things like that but you can't see much from the field level at all. 00:47:43.599 --> 00:47:59.039 And I think as a first time play caller probably it will benefit him to be up high he he loses that visceral you know walk up to Jalen Hurts and you know look him in the eye kind of thing. 00:47:59.039 --> 00:48:35.679 But he's got to be able to see what the defense is doing and I know they have tablets now and all that stuff but I would rather be watching this unfold myself if I were him you know at least in the early going who knows I mean there's no rule that says he can't switch it up if he if he wants to you know but I I kind of think maybe upstairs is a cleaner way to do it in the early going less chaotic less prone to you know screwing up real bad if that makes any sense. 00:48:35.679 --> 00:48:36.320 Right. 00:48:36.719 --> 00:48:38.079 No I totally I totally agree. 00:48:38.800 --> 00:48:41.199 For the record you sound like you're a pro booth. 00:48:41.199 --> 00:48:44.400 He's pro early booth until he gets his feet on the ground. 00:48:44.880 --> 00:48:58.559 But really but I think I think you especially if you're inexperienced at this which he is extremely but I think you like I said you get a better view of everything. 00:48:58.559 --> 00:49:10.480 You have a clearer picture of exactly what's happening out there who's not getting what block and you know why the the the shift in the defense is causing so much problems. 00:49:10.480 --> 00:49:16.719 Rather than having someone relay this information to you you're seeing it with your own eyes you know it's true. 00:49:16.719 --> 00:49:19.599 And there might come a time when you don't need that information. 00:49:19.599 --> 00:49:20.159 Right. 00:49:20.159 --> 00:49:24.320 Yeah but first week sure you know do that. 00:49:24.639 --> 00:49:29.679 Yeah I mean I think you know the first game's home right so I think you're describing all the tactical advantages of that. 00:49:29.679 --> 00:49:39.679 Me personally just knowing Philadelphia fans I think it's beneficial to be in the booth because when you make a terrible 32 call and it goes wrong, you're not going to get destroyed by the fans terrific. 00:49:40.639 --> 00:49:46.079 Do you guys less do you think the coaching booth and maybe the press box too do they have battery resistant windows? 00:49:46.400 --> 00:50:01.519 Is that is that something that's

been developed Oh God probably so yeah but it's interesting one thing though in the press box and I think this is probably true in the coaching booth you don't really hear the crowd like you do if you're in the crowd. 00:50:01.519 --> 00:50:07.119 You know you're kind of isolated a little bit and for a coach that's probably good. 00:50:07.119 --> 00:50:22.079 For a writer it was a little bit frustrating sometimes because I'd have to I'd see on social media that fans were yelling something or you know there was a certain reaction to something and I couldn't really tell you know that's great. 00:50:22.400 --> 00:50:27.599 Yeah it's great to get insight from that like your life experience being in the press box. 00:50:27.599 --> 00:50:28.480 That's very cool. 00:50:28.480 --> 00:50:52.639 Just one last question related to that Les like just from a career perspective do you have like like I'm sure a lot of our listeners are like in admiration that you got to work at Eagles games like in the sports industry like do you have any advice for Mobile I guess either young writers like even if someone like realizes they have a real skill at writing like w what would be your advice to I know that I know the industry's changing. 00:50:52.639 --> 00:50:54.480 How do we beat out the robots less? 00:50:55.920 --> 00:51:01.679 We need the future less boned I am so I wish I could give you a better answer. 00:51:01.679 --> 00:51:33.440 Yeah honest to God when I I was an English major in college and I got a a a job working in the sports department of the Charlotte paper when I was a sophomore you know just kind of t answering the phone and stuff like that and I was I really liked it and I wanted to do it and there was no thought whatsoever that this job would ever disappear or become endangered you know it it it was this was how people knew about stuff. 00:51:33.440 --> 00:51:36.159 You know it's not like that now. 00:51:36.159 --> 00:51:37.440 It's so different. 00:51:37.440 --> 00:51:46.239 And writing isn't really treasured I don't think or really you know I don't think it's hard to it's it's hard to build value as a writer. 00:51:46.239 --> 00:52:01.280 It's all about like what you guys do, like podcasting or you know having outrageous things which is not at all what I mean there's nothing wrong with podcasting but I wanted to make a living as a writer. 00:52:01.280 --> 00:52:05.280 You know, I was an English major I wasn't a great athlete or anything. 00:52:05.280 --> 00:52:11.280 I just wanted to make a living writing somehow and I didn't know how to become a famous novelist or anything. 00:52:11.280 --> 00:52:16.639 So this seemed like a good alternative but I don't know that you can do that anymore. 00:52:16.639 --> 00:52:22.239 I don't people who really make a good living writing it's rare. 00:52:22.239 --> 00:52:30.400 It's so rare and I don't want to discourage anybody but it it's I don't want to say it's impossible but it's improbable at this point. 00:52:30.400 --> 00:52:43.920 You know you have to be a media conglomerate of some sort you know with TikTok and and other you know things that you have going to get noticed and to get hired. 00:52:43.920 --> 00:52:48.880 I don't think employers really treasure you know good writing. 00:52:48.880 --> 00:52:52.320 I don't think people pay for good writing you know on the internet. 00:52:52.320 --> 00:52:53.679 It I hate it. 00:52:53.760 --> 00:53:10.400 I it's it's off yeah that that's terrible I mean I think you know looking at just your past and when you retired you know you really kind of mentioned you know you you're all about like writing as the sports like you you encourage to create a voice and then in your sense you were more whimsical and sarcastic in some ways. 00:53:10.400 --> 00:53:32.880 And you know maybe we've gotten better at getting information and and being able to you know tell that information out in like a very direct way but the story that goes along with that that is something that you know is individualized and I think that's where you know for us here at this podcast we grew up in an era of football that we listened to you and we really enjoyed what you were telling as a story that really got us to love the Eagles. 00:53:32.960 --> 00:53:45.760 So it's such a hard time right now because it's so access is so curtailed to you know especially anything that isn't a press conference. 00:53:45.760 --> 00:53:49.519 It's very hard to get any sort of time alone with anybody. 00:53:49.519 --> 00:53:59.199 I like to write about people and what what people are what the writers are now being pushed into is well you don't have the access to people. 00:53:59.199 --> 00:54:18.239 So what you have is a lot of technology so you can write about you know film breakdowns and you can write about you know the McVeigh Shanahan system and you can write about whambox and yeah which is fine but that's not at all what I would say. 00:54:18.239 --> 00:54:20.880 I would have a hard time. 00:54:20.880 --> 00:54:24.000 That's uh I'm not an X and O person. 00:54:24.000 --> 00:54:29.039 I didn't play at any kind of level you know I I just I'm not that guy. 00:54:29.039 --> 00:54:34.320 You know and I think that's that's kind of where the the business is going. 00:54:34.320 --> 00:54:41.599 He's saying you know here's a screenshot of why this play didn't work, you know, that kind of stuff. 00:54:41.599 --> 00:54:45.039 And I God bless the people that can do that. 00:54:45.039 --> 00:54:47.039 That's not what I do. 00:54:47.679 --> 00:54:58.880 Yeah well Les we we listen to you and I think we thank you for all the special stories that you gave us and and we grew up learning and reading from you and and the rest of the Daily News and Inquire folks. 00:54:58.880 --> 00:55:04.800 So again thanks for your time and I I hope you have a good rest of your evening and I hope you watch the rest of this Melbourne game. 00:55:04.960 --> 00:55:11.760 We'll see uh what

comes of it well good luck to you guys thank you very much for uh calling me and uh take care. 00:55:12.079 --> 00:56:01.280 All right yeah thank you so much take care les bowen everyone what wow I mean he that was awesome you want to talk about time we we told him we you know we were hoping to get 20 out of him I think we got like 21 and a half yeah we we we stretched I think we got an extra second we might have gotten that extra second what what a great conver I mean that is just so cool to talk with someone talking all night man I would have yeah maybe we'll give a call of the future over I I love and you can tell and and it's funny his Instagram always talks about him being you know jokingly a recovering southerner and just the the the pace and that that his the way he speaks it's just like he's just such the ultimate sports enthusiast it was great it's so cool to hear like you we've heard that unique voice over the years. 00:56:01.280 --> 00:56:15.840 I'm sure a lot of our listeners would watch daily news live with Michael Barkin and that show was awesome and Leslie Bellin was always one of our one of my favorites and then like Riff Hall we started talking and we realized all three of us really liked Marcus Hayes. 00:56:15.840 --> 00:56:33.519 Yep yeah we're not going to have Marcus Hayes he was a contrarian which I really enjoyed that's that's part of it that's honestly where you look at it but what a special time that was great we didn't kick it off for week one I mean I'm expecting we get that level of guest every single week. 00:56:33.519 --> 00:56:46.239 Yeah that was we had great guests and yeah that is was I I really I truly enjoyed that and I hope our listeners did and what a great you know time to have him on for Eagles see home opener season opener. 00:56:46.239 --> 00:57:01.840 Well let's let's just let's delve into that real quick right let's let's burrow in let's get into the Washington Clarendon Clarendon okay at 425 That's what what time zone? 00:57:01.840 --> 00:57:02.719 Eastern time. 00:57:02.719 --> 00:57:45.760 Okay so in Melbourne and in Melbourne if you're watching it will be it'll probably be like six in the morning 12 a.m yeah well what 1235 a m probably I think it'll be six twenty five a m 625 a mundy correct wow so they're gonna be watching back in time from yeah statboy will figure it out yeah they're three in the morning three in the morning that's tough all right so we were right between both you and I yeah yeah and yeah so it it's yeah so it's a division game it's a huge game now are you going to the game I'm going to the game you're going to the what are we wearing Dan What are we wearing Dan I haven't you know I did buy a jersey this the you know I tried to buy like one see one jersey. 00:57:45.760 --> 00:57:55.199 Okay wait let's guess who we bought let's guess it was it an Eagles player yes okay so an Eagles player I'm gonna guess the color first what do you think the color is still I think it's green. 00:57:55.199 --> 00:57:56.159 Is it green? 00:57:56.159 --> 00:57:59.039 No is it black? 00:57:59.039 --> 00:58:00.480 No is it white? 00:58:00.480 --> 00:58:11.199 Yes all right good so we got third time unique with the white all right all right all right but this is like 20 questions from the EOS number so there was some thought that went into why I would choose this play. 00:58:11.199 --> 00:58:12.239 Is it thought about it? 00:58:12.320 --> 00:58:17.920 Is it a prime number is the player's number prime is the player on your fantasy team. 00:58:18.079 --> 00:58:30.880 Is the player on your fantasy team okay that doesn't help anybody I don't think he has wicks I think he's a player okay so it's a non-prime number white Eagles jersey is he current he's on the team this year. 00:58:30.880 --> 00:59:01.519 Yep okay offense offensive side offense okay it's on offense white jersey non-prime number non prime so one two he put thought into this three five seven nine none of those correct I think it's Devontae Smith I mean that is it six what does Statboy say he then I think I think it's probably yeah maybe maybe it's Hollywood Brown. 00:59:01.599 --> 00:59:24.559 He likes Hollywood Brown he's been talking about him I'm glad he made the team no way he's number zero which is a is that a prime number debatable depends who you ask I don't know yeah maybe it's inlignment nah he's not alignment you already have a Saquon jersey right it's Devontae's fit I don't know I think it's Devontae because he's sitting here waiting for me to give him a wrong answer too yeah what is it? 00:59:25.519 --> 00:59:29.679 I mean I know that it's kind of it's AJ Brown Lane Johns Lane Johns? 00:59:29.679 --> 00:59:49.039 Oh like they make my end of the last design good for you Pam and you know all the Johnson talk you're gonna have to put some weight on to fit into it so you're gonna be walking around your the back of your jersey is going to say Johnson you're gonna be strutting around stand tall you always stand tall in a Johnson uniform. 00:59:49.039 --> 00:59:56.880 Just make sure the number's correct not the not the Fred Johnson number the the lane Johnson number did you pick a Johnson jersey out in a neural 65. 00:59:56.880 --> 01:00:43.280 65 so 65's a great number it is not a prime number I mean he's yeah yeah he's the greatest eagle of all time I'm delighted that you got that jersey I did not expect that panda that's wonderful yeah okay so you're on your white you know your white long Johnson jersey you we obviously a cologne is is ready at the ready the next thing goes the cologne right so yeah did you buy a new bottle of cologne yeah do you get a new cologne I'm in the process yeah I'm a little behind on that I apologize but I I have polo too damn the game is Sunday yeah I'm out of the Chanel I'm gonna wear the polo blue I got a nice stock of that okay and then I'm in the process of getting I'm gonna change it up this year I'll probably either get YSL Eve Saint Lon

Scott to ask a question. 01:00:43.280 --> 01:01:19.039 Your life is being defined during the spelling that was my word it was I remember and then trouble finding it Dior I think I'm gonna get to I have like a couple gift cards so you it seems like you're going French with this with the clone I believe so yeah I think they're both French Trayvon okay so we've got a clone so you're gonna be I'm also going yeah so I'm going to Penn State Temple on Saturday at the link that's how we're talking so I'm saying I'm sitting in like section 129 I think it's it's one of the end zones is that near your seats or is that the opposite it's literally the opposite side so one day I'll be on one end zone the next day I'll be on the other side okay are we going meat pie? 01:01:19.039 --> 01:01:44.000 Yeah I mean definitely yeah yeah yeah are there new menu items of interest did they tell you as a he hasn't been there yet right to realize these after he's been there there's something called email that they could have you know there's communication was that like literally the headline of the season is hey we have new meat pies this year I mean that's there new meat pies I don't I don't know if that in the email yeah I mean a sausage roll, a meat pie. 01:01:44.239 --> 01:01:52.559 They probably do have like a new one some sort of some sort of Frankfurter perhaps so question is had they done that in the past have they introduced new flavors because did they have the cheese? 01:01:54.320 --> 01:02:21.440 Yeah you're right yeah that was the new one yeah so maybe there is a new meat piece the lamb and rosemary is like the staple you know that's what is that what you're gonna get next to me in the yeah I'll probably get that yeah yeah now one of our one of our listeners shout out LD she gave us really she gifted an article to us you know Les Bone would be so happy if we were able to read I I don't know if you guys did the homework which was reading that article it was the Australian meat pie competition. 01:02:21.440 --> 01:02:30.880 Yeah oh yes yes and I she also goes to Cornell similar to JDX Hunt but it's not docs fully LD Yeah that's okay. 01:02:30.880 --> 01:02:40.960 But it was interesting to me because the the the judging they have different flavors like smoked wallaby have you ever eaten I didn't even know you're allowed to eat wallaby. 01:02:40.960 --> 01:02:52.400 You are because wallaby I think of Rocco's modern life was my favorite Nickelodeon yes that was a fantastic so I guess you can eat wallaby do you think it tastes good wallaby yeah if they're making meat pies out of it and they're not making it out of something you don't want to eat. 01:02:52.400 --> 01:03:18.079 I'll be honest with you I think when you pie something when you put something in a pie it doesn't have to be doesn't have to taste good because you're surrounding it by like a delicious um outer shell right isn't that how pies work no uh yeah I I we'd have to bring up the definition of a pie yeah so so you feel you honestly feel that the in part of a pie is critical to the success of the pie. 01:03:18.079 --> 01:03:23.440 If you pulled the meat feature out of the said pie, it you want to enjoy it. 01:03:23.440 --> 01:03:30.559 Yeah I mean if you just throw like a sauce and some potatoes you can throw almost any meat no one eats a nothing meat pie. 01:03:30.559 --> 01:03:32.400 They're called like mince pies. 01:03:32.400 --> 01:03:34.880 There's all kinds of different pies what do you put in a mince pie? 01:03:34.880 --> 01:03:41.119 I I don't know I think that's meat that's minced up yeah exactly a meat a shepherd's pie or like a pot chicken pot pie. 01:03:41.119 --> 01:03:47.679 Those are like meat is there a meat free pie actually I'll save this for a later episode future guest. 01:03:47.679 --> 01:04:10.400 Oh here we go oh no fantastic all right so the Washington Clarendons against the Philadelphia Eagles yeah the spread's five and a half tell me the odds yeah what are we I think we're looking at when you think Washington Clarendons like so Jaden Daniels I think of a hotel he kind of had a bad summer though he got kind of ridiculed on social media for some stupid things about LSU. 01:04:10.400 --> 01:04:22.800 He was mad that someone's wearing number five I think so my prediction is that the Philadelphia Eagles are going to win the game and they are going to cover the spread but it's going to be a low scoring game. 01:04:22.800 --> 01:04:26.000 I'm taking the under I believe is what is it 30 38? 01:04:26.800 --> 01:04:28.159 No it's 44 and a half. 01:04:28.400 --> 01:04:45.039 44 now I'm still taking the under we are going to win this game the Eagles are going to win 17 to three it's gonna be a dominant game just nice clean dominant three points that's not a dominant offensive performance that's scary. 01:04:45.039 --> 01:04:56.400 No it doesn't matter because they're not going to score they're not gonna move at all this offensive line is going to be completely outmatched by the Eagles front nothing make an ab boy like that channel 17 three folks you heard it here. 01:04:56.400 --> 01:04:57.679 How about you Panda? 01:04:57.920 --> 01:05:06.320 I'm gonna go 2314 2314 over win cover in the spread stat boy? 01:05:06.320 --> 01:05:14.960 Yeah I feel like we're in the 20s score wise I think we're gonna try to like run the score up a little bit show that we are offense is going to click this season get people excited for it. 01:05:14.960 --> 01:05:23.840 You know, you know Manyan man he's gonna want to show that he deserves this OC job and we learned that the tactical advantage of being in the booth here is going to be on display. 01:05:23.840 --> 01:05:29.280 So yeah I think I think 28 I think Clarendons they have some offensive weapons. 01:05:29.280 --> 01:05:34.800 I think they're gonna have two touchdowns even though I think their defense is good. 01:05:34.800 --> 01:05:36.079 Yeah so 28-14. 01:05:36.400 --> 01:05:47.199 So

you're taking the under and you're taking yeah yeah they're but you but we all have them covering and I think that's the way to go I I'm telling you this offensive line for the Clarendons is about as bad as it gets. 01:05:47.440 --> 01:05:51.119 Well they lost their best one right they lost Thompson for his life. 01:05:51.119 --> 01:05:57.119 Which he usually does well at but it's a matter of he's gonna be running into some really good defensive players on the Eagles. 01:05:57.440 --> 01:05:58.320 I I sure think so. 01:05:58.320 --> 01:06:00.800 Yeah gonna be in the booth Swiss manion. 01:06:00.800 --> 01:06:02.960 I I would just as Staff Boy was talking about. 01:06:02.960 --> 01:06:04.480 It's funny you should ask the grizz. 01:06:04.480 --> 01:06:05.519 Like, where's the grizz getting? 01:06:05.519 --> 01:06:08.480 Well, you gotta keep the grizz on the on the ground floor, right? 01:06:08.719 --> 01:06:09.760 Well, Vic is upstairs, right? 01:06:10.079 --> 01:06:10.719 Vic is upstairs. 01:06:10.719 --> 01:06:11.679 Vic, Vic, I'm sorry. 01:06:11.679 --> 01:06:14.239 I wonder if they'll be in booths right next to it. 01:06:14.239 --> 01:06:16.960 Like will they like look at each other during the game and give a high five. 01:06:16.960 --> 01:06:17.280 Yeah. 01:06:17.280 --> 01:06:20.480 There's no way Vic high fives me. 01:06:20.480 --> 01:06:21.440 Like, no. 01:06:21.440 --> 01:06:25.119 I I like to think that uh Victor just rolling meatfalls or something like that. 01:06:25.119 --> 01:06:39.679 Like when Victory When Vic goes to the booth, I like to think there's like four like coaching assistants that like hold him up on like, you know, like like a Egyptian pharaoh like bed that they just carry him onto his seat and then he uh he just sits down and starts just coaching. 01:06:39.679 --> 01:06:40.079 Yeah. 01:06:40.480 --> 01:06:41.760 He's like, that guy, what's that guy? 01:06:41.760 --> 01:06:42.480 What an entrance. 01:06:42.719 --> 01:06:42.880 Good. 01:06:42.880 --> 01:06:44.639 But Mannion, yeah. 01:06:44.639 --> 01:06:46.000 Yeah, I wonder who's in the booth. 01:06:46.000 --> 01:06:47.280 Like or Mahaffe. 01:06:47.280 --> 01:06:48.719 Mahaffey Mahaffey. 01:06:48.719 --> 01:06:49.519 Maha Mahaffey. 01:06:49.519 --> 01:06:52.320 Manion had a press conference today, and he was talking about Mahaffe. 01:06:52.320 --> 01:06:55.199 Like he said like he taught him a lot about the running game and stuff. 01:06:55.199 --> 01:06:55.679 Yeah. 01:06:55.679 --> 01:06:57.280 So you think Mahaffey will will be. 01:06:57.280 --> 01:06:59.840 Yeah, who are like his guys? 01:06:59.840 --> 01:07:00.559 Like, you know. 01:07:00.559 --> 01:07:01.920 I think you keep Grizz on the ground. 01:07:01.920 --> 01:07:04.079 Manion's gonna be like, hey, I'm going up to the booth. 01:07:04.079 --> 01:07:06.159 Like, hey Grizz, why don't you come up with me or something? 01:07:06.480 --> 01:07:10.320 You think Grizz goes up, or do you think Grizz probably hanging out

or something? 01:07:10.639 --> 01:07:13.039 But he also kept saying Grizz is a ground floor dude. 01:07:13.039 --> 01:07:14.960 Grizzly is a lizard list. 01:07:14.960 --> 01:07:17.360 Oh he's from you put Grizz as well. 01:07:17.360 --> 01:07:18.719 Grizz has to be around. 01:07:18.719 --> 01:07:24.719 Well Manion kept saying part of why he felt good about going to the booth is he was like, I got a lot of great coaches that'll be down on the field. 01:07:24.719 --> 01:07:28.719 Like so like he felt like there's guys that'll be like good vibes guys down. 01:07:28.719 --> 01:07:32.639 He he he mentioned Parks Frazier, he's like quarterback's coach. 01:07:32.639 --> 01:07:41.039 But yeah, that's why he was trying to like understand like who who's gonna be up there with him, who who who are these great guys on the field that he's talking about. 01:07:41.039 --> 01:07:44.320 You know, I mean it's probably like Brayden behalf and Coop Cooper. 01:07:44.320 --> 01:07:52.800 Let me just say I hope the booth is a temporary thing, and I think Les very appropriately told us, like, you know, the the newbies, they go in the booth. 01:07:52.800 --> 01:07:55.760 I think you have to be very young or very old to go booth. 01:07:55.760 --> 01:07:57.199 The rest of the time you gotta sit there. 01:07:57.199 --> 01:07:58.079 Now he's not wrong. 01:07:58.079 --> 01:08:06.400 Like when you're on the sidelines, like I remember being on the sidelines, you spent the whole time just looking at the screen because you wouldn't you wouldn't be able to see anything otherwise, especially if you're sitting down. 01:08:06.400 --> 01:08:09.360 And us linemen, we got tired very quickly, so we sat down. 01:08:09.360 --> 01:08:16.079 So when you like when you played, was your let's say your O-line coach and your OC, were they booth or field guys? 01:08:16.079 --> 01:08:18.159 So I had three of each. 01:08:18.159 --> 01:08:29.199 So I I had a bit of m of a mix, but my probably my favorite my favorite OC and O-line coach combo, we did it, they were both sideline guys. 01:08:29.199 --> 01:08:36.720 We did have the booth guy, and and typically, like, you know, it it's funny, Hertz gave this quote about using the red phone. 01:08:36.720 --> 01:08:43.279 Like, we used to have the same type of phone thing, and I used to have to talk to the first OC I had, and he'd be like, What are you seeing down there? 01:08:43.279 --> 01:08:45.279 I'm like, I don't know, what are you seeing up there? 01:08:45.279 --> 01:08:53.600 And I used to get always pissed because like, you know, he'd be like asking me things, and it's like, well, you already know the answer to the question, but you know, it was funny. 01:08:53.600 --> 01:08:55.359 Like, I I'll be curious to see. 01:08:55.359 --> 01:09:03.680 I would pay good money, like if there was a way, and I I'm sure in future iterations of the NFL, you're gonna be able to like listen in on those phone calls like briefly. 01:09:03.680 --> 01:09:10.079 Like, what do you think Banion's saying to Jalen if the first three plays is a three and out, you know, and the and the red phone rings? 01:09:10.079 --> 01:09:11.359 What is Jalen saying? 01:09:11.359 --> 01:09:13.520 Manion doesn't seem like a hothead. 01:09:13.520 --> 01:09:16.399 Like, I don't think he's gonna like I think he's just gonna be like, what went wrong? 01:09:16.399 --> 01:09:20.000 Like, stay calm and just be like, what what caused that or something? 01:09:20.000 --> 01:09:20.239 You know. 01:09:20.239 --> 01:09:22.000 That sounds boring though. 01:09:22.000 --> 01:09:23.199 I feel like it's gonna be much more. 01:09:23.199 --> 01:09:25.439 Like if it were Vic, I think Vic would be like, What the hell are you saying? 01:09:25.439 --> 01:09:26.319 Like he would get mad. 01:09:26.319 --> 01:09:27.680 He said something funny today. 01:09:27.680 --> 01:09:31.279 Vic be like, that's your last chance at a meatball this week, queer. 01:09:31.279 --> 01:09:32.399 Just clicks off. 01:09:32.399 --> 01:09:34.560 He's just so brutally honest, Vic. 01:09:34.560 --> 01:09:41.119 He said something today where he was like the guy was just kind of shocked that he he like when he critiques people, he's just like, nah, he's not there yet. 01:09:41.119 --> 01:09:42.319 Like he doesn't know what he's doing. 01:09:42.319 --> 01:09:43.680 You know, it's like hilarious. 01:09:43.680 --> 01:09:44.880 He's brutally honest. 01:09:44.880 --> 01:09:45.279 I love it. 01:09:45.279 --> 01:09:49.840 I bet I bet if he and if if he and Manion are in the same booth, he's like, Man, that sucks, Sean. 01:09:49.840 --> 01:09:51.119 Do something better. 01:09:51.119 --> 01:09:53.760 He's like, I'll just keep it as a three-point game. 01:09:53.760 --> 01:09:55.840 Yeah, no, I'm excited. 01:09:55.840 --> 01:09:59.199 So I I think we have our we should, you know, Staff Boyd this year. 01:09:59.199 --> 01:10:04.000 We should write down our predictions or have the AI or overlords keep it until we take it. 01:10:05.039 --> 01:10:07.279 The game for everyone here or who we predicted the first time. 01:10:07.439 --> 01:10:10.399 Just our guys, like uh like all three of us, and let's see who's the closest. 01:10:10.399 --> 01:10:13.600 And whoever's the closest gets to gets the I don't know. 01:10:13.600 --> 01:10:15.279 We'll we'll get some sort of prize. 01:10:15.279 --> 01:10:15.680 Yeah. 01:10:15.680 --> 01:10:17.279 I think it'll be a Macy's gift card. 01:10:17.279 --> 01:10:17.840 A ten dollar. 01:10:17.840 --> 01:10:22.560 I will get whoever's the winner, a ten dollar Macy's gift card, and it we'll do that every week. 01:10:22.560 --> 01:10:26.720 And then at the end of the year, we'll buy the nicest cologne for Dan possible. 01:10:26.720 --> 01:10:32.880 Yeah, Macy's had their earnings call recently and they like yesterday, I think, and they like they're like crushing it. 01:10:32.880 --> 01:10:33.600 It's kind of crazy. 01:10:33.600 --> 01:10:34.640 Yeah, you're pretty

awesome. 01:10:34.640 --> 01:10:36.479 Did you use the gift card we gave you? 01:10:36.479 --> 01:10:42.000 I've I've re- I've re-gifted that actually back to you a couple of times, but then you keep giving it back to me. 01:10:42.000 --> 01:10:42.720 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 01:10:42.720 --> 01:10:46.640 In fact, if you win this first week, I'm gonna that'll be headed your way. 01:10:46.640 --> 01:10:48.319 Well, congrats to Macy's. 01:10:48.319 --> 01:10:50.159 They're they're one of they are a sponsor too. 01:10:50.159 --> 01:10:51.760 So shout out to Macy's. 01:10:51.760 --> 01:10:52.159 Yeah. 01:10:52.159 --> 01:10:56.800 They even asked, they were trying to do like a segment that like for our podcast this season. 01:10:56.800 --> 01:10:59.279 They wanted to do like the Macy's player of the week or something. 01:10:59.279 --> 01:11:01.199 But we just said like we don't got time to do it. 01:11:01.199 --> 01:11:01.920 Wow. 01:11:01.920 --> 01:11:03.199 We were thinking about doing that. 01:11:03.199 --> 01:11:05.199 Like we support them, but we're you know, that come on. 01:11:05.199 --> 01:11:05.600 Yeah. 01:11:05.600 --> 01:11:09.119 I mean we're we're seeing each other, but we're not you know we we like each other. 01:11:09.119 --> 01:11:10.640 It's like meeting the parents or something. 01:11:10.640 --> 01:11:13.279 Yeah, we like each other, but we don't like like each other. 01:11:13.279 --> 01:11:13.760 You know what I mean? 01:11:13.760 --> 01:11:14.560 Yeah. 01:11:14.560 --> 01:11:14.880 Yeah. 01:11:14.880 --> 01:11:19.039 I think we have time for one email or voicemail. 01:11:19.039 --> 01:11:20.720 Make it good, staff boy. 01:11:21.039 --> 01:11:21.279 All right. 01:11:21.279 --> 01:11:24.960 So we we don't have we have one voicemail, but I'm saving it for next week. 01:11:26.720 --> 01:11:29.680 South Carolina South Carolina or whoever that unknown person is. 01:11:29.680 --> 01:11:31.520 Oh, yes, we will call one of these weeks to. 01:11:31.520 --> 01:11:32.640 Oh, yeah, 100%. 01:11:33.600 --> 01:11:35.760 One eye Joe, I believe, is his uh his name. 01:11:35.760 --> 01:11:36.319 He's gone by. 01:11:36.319 --> 01:11:37.279 Yeah, something like that. 01:11:37.279 --> 01:11:38.000 He was talking about that. 01:11:38.000 --> 01:11:38.880 It was something that's right. 01:11:39.760 --> 01:11:40.079 Yeah, yeah. 01:11:40.079 --> 01:11:42.560 And here's that iHop when he called or something. 01:11:42.560 --> 01:11:42.960 Yeah. 01:11:43.199 --> 01:11:43.600 We love it. 01:11:43.600 --> 01:11:44.560 Yeah, that guy was great. 01:11:44.560 --> 01:11:49.680 So I but we could go to the say the Slayer sound-off piece here because she had a couple sound-offs. 01:11:49.680 --> 01:11:52.880 So, you know, she was very active over a couple couple days here. 01:11:52.880 --> 01:12:04.880 The one post that she shared with us was a post of Miles Garrett being taught by this I don't know who this guy was, but he's teaching Myes Garrett how to hit harder, like tackle people harder. 01:12:04.880 --> 01:12:06.800 And he looks vicious. 01:12:06.800 --> 01:12:09.039 I I don't know if this is good or bad for us. 01:12:09.039 --> 01:12:16.319 I mean, maybe hopefully he gets himself hurt more easily this way, but he Miles Garrett looks uh I'm God fearing of him at this point. 01:12:16.319 --> 01:12:18.479 He looks he looks very scary in his new technique. 01:12:18.479 --> 01:12:19.920 That's what Slayer say? 01:12:19.920 --> 01:12:21.359 No, she just said this is nuts. 01:12:21.359 --> 01:12:27.359 You know, you're you're almost have to register your hands as weapons kind of thing. 01:12:27.359 --> 01:12:28.479 Like it's that serious. 01:12:31.119 --> 01:12:34.479 He's the best D lineman in the in the league. 01:12:34.479 --> 01:12:38.000 He's also a huge Halloween enthusiast, if you didn't know. 01:12:38.000 --> 01:12:39.840 He loves Halloween. 01:12:39.840 --> 01:12:42.319 So I could see Miles Garrett just going off. 01:12:42.319 --> 01:12:46.239 And I I this is he probably looks at this Rams team and he's like, Man, this is my year. 01:12:46.239 --> 01:12:47.199 This is my year. 01:12:47.199 --> 01:12:56.800 Yeah, he's a he's a phenomenal player and definite hall of famer and makes the season scarier that but the Eagles well we'll get to that when we play the Rams. 01:12:56.800 --> 01:12:57.600 But yeah, we played the biggest. 01:13:00.560 --> 01:13:00.640 Yeah. 01:13:00.640 --> 01:13:02.960 So another another uh Slayer sound off. 01:13:02.960 --> 01:13:04.720 We just had our fantasy draft, right? 01:13:04.720 --> 01:13:08.239 Our our uh we are sponsors the league. 01:13:08.239 --> 01:13:10.640 Yeah, yeah, or our Zulu Nation fantasy football access. 01:13:11.600 --> 01:13:14.399 Ice Cown Pete uh for having some folks. 01:13:14.399 --> 01:13:15.920 Yeah, you have to do it. 01:13:15.920 --> 01:13:16.960 You weren't invited. 01:13:16.960 --> 01:13:18.239 No, I was not. 01:13:18.239 --> 01:13:18.800 That's right. 01:13:18.960 --> 01:13:19.359 But that's fine. 01:13:19.359 --> 01:13:24.720 But yeah, we had our first uh we had our draft or our 20th season, and that led Slayer to give us a little sound off. 01:13:24.720 --> 01:13:30.000 Apparently, there is a league that is 35 years old and it helps them keep their friend group together. 01:13:30.000 --> 01:13:31.840 So I think we're on the right path here, gentlemen. 01:13:31.840 --> 01:13:35.039 I mean, we we're 20th season, we got 15 more to get to that level. 01:13:35.039 --> 01:13:37.840 But you know, we got another 15 more years together, at least. 01:13:37.840 --> 01:13:39.119 That's what I'm hoping. 01:13:39.199 --> 01:13:41.840 I I I actually am gonna time out at 35. 01:13:41.840 --> 01:13:43.760 That's so that's very that's very tough. 01:13:44.000 --> 01:13:46.399 So that's when we have our children taking over our team. 01:13:46.399 --> 01:13:53.520 Our so do you think we'll really be able to like in the NFL, like the you know, you've grown your

franchise and you you pass it down to your 100%? 01:13:53.920 --> 01:13:54.159 Yeah, yeah. 01:13:54.159 --> 01:13:54.560 Yeah. 01:13:54.720 --> 01:13:55.920 So this league will go beyond us. 01:13:55.920 --> 01:13:56.560 Generations. 01:13:56.720 --> 01:13:58.159 Yeah, that's a generational foundation. 01:13:58.159 --> 01:14:02.560 Tat Nation will be we we're we're very similar, unfortunately, to the Jets. 01:14:02.560 --> 01:14:09.119 So I'm kind of like Woody Johnson and I'm getting this, I'm I'm heading handing Tiger Tat some some very interesting goods. 01:14:09.439 --> 01:14:09.680 I like it. 01:14:09.680 --> 01:14:17.359 Yeah, I think Computer Scott was a big fan of relegation, and the only way we can do that is if you expand the league, and if we expand the league, we need more people, and those weak people are our own. 01:14:18.399 --> 01:14:25.840 So so we're you know, it it would be nice, Dan, if you sired a couple of kids so that they can become the new panda, the young pandas. 01:14:26.079 --> 01:14:26.319 Yes. 01:14:26.880 --> 01:14:27.920 What's a baby panda called? 01:14:27.920 --> 01:14:28.880 Does it have an interval? 01:14:29.039 --> 01:14:30.079 Does a baby panda have a name? 01:14:30.399 --> 01:14:32.319 That's a couple baby panda, right? 01:14:32.319 --> 01:14:35.840 Like a pandette or a pen pin. 01:14:35.840 --> 01:14:37.920 We played this game. 01:14:37.920 --> 01:14:38.560 It's called a cub. 01:14:38.560 --> 01:14:39.359 Prince Panda. 01:14:39.359 --> 01:14:40.800 It's just a cub. 01:14:40.800 --> 01:14:42.560 What? 01:14:42.960 --> 01:14:44.640 A bear's oh, a cub. 01:14:44.640 --> 01:14:45.199 A cub. 01:14:45.199 --> 01:14:46.640 So yeah, looking for some cubs. 01:14:46.640 --> 01:14:46.880 Yeah. 01:14:46.880 --> 01:14:47.199 Okay. 01:14:47.199 --> 01:14:51.840 And then the last sound off piece here, and it kind of actually fit well with what we were talking about earlier. 01:14:51.840 --> 01:14:53.199 We're just oblivious to it. 01:14:53.199 --> 01:14:55.439 There are new food options at the link this season. 01:14:55.439 --> 01:14:56.479 Sure, of course there are. 01:14:56.479 --> 01:14:57.119 Yeah. 01:14:57.119 --> 01:15:00.560 The specific things, uh, a tush-push tater. 01:15:00.560 --> 01:15:03.840 It looks like a baked potato that's cut open with a bunch of good stuff. 01:15:03.840 --> 01:15:07.600 Um, they have Kool-Aid glazed chicken wings. 01:15:07.600 --> 01:15:08.880 Would you try those? 01:15:08.880 --> 01:15:09.359 Wow. 01:15:09.359 --> 01:15:09.840 Hmm. 01:15:09.840 --> 01:15:10.159 Yeah. 01:15:10.159 --> 01:15:11.199 Do you like Kool-Aid? 01:15:11.199 --> 01:15:12.000 Next. 01:15:12.000 --> 01:15:13.199 Yeah, I like Kool-Aid. 01:15:13.359 --> 01:15:13.439 Yeah. 01:15:13.439 --> 01:15:14.560 Uh not on my chicken wings. 01:15:14.560 --> 01:15:15.680 I'm I'm intrigued. 01:15:15.680 --> 01:15:16.800 I'm thinking I might eat those. 01:15:16.800 --> 01:15:18.239 That wouldn't taste good on a chicken wing. 01:15:18.479 --> 01:15:19.199 I think they would be good. 01:15:19.199 --> 01:15:21.199 I mean, you have like Coke flavored things, right? 01:15:21.199 --> 01:15:24.800 You have like coke, you have coke pulled pork and stuff, used Dr. 01:15:24.800 --> 01:15:26.159 Pepper or whatever on that stuff. 01:15:26.159 --> 01:15:27.439 I think it might be pretty good. 01:15:27.439 --> 01:15:32.239 And then the last one here is a South Philly special cheesesteak. 01:15:32.239 --> 01:15:33.600 Now, now I'm in on that. 01:15:33.600 --> 01:15:36.720 So the Philly special, but it's the South Philly special. 01:15:36.720 --> 01:15:37.039 Yeah. 01:15:37.039 --> 01:15:38.239 Is it a cheesesteak? 01:15:38.399 --> 01:15:38.880 And it's a cheesesteak. 01:15:39.600 --> 01:15:40.319 I don't know what the heck goes on. 01:15:40.720 --> 01:15:41.119 I'm getting that. 01:15:41.119 --> 01:15:42.800 I think there's more things besides that, too. 01:15:42.800 --> 01:15:44.479 So that's beautiful. 01:15:44.479 --> 01:15:47.920 And you guys gotta pick a game that, or you know, games that you're coming to. 01:15:47.920 --> 01:15:51.439 Well, can you can you correct us before we head out here? 01:15:51.680 --> 01:15:54.319 Oh, you have this is my favorite part of the night. 01:15:54.399 --> 01:15:54.560 Yeah. 01:15:54.800 --> 01:15:57.600 So we talked a little bit about the game in Melbourne. 01:15:57.600 --> 01:15:58.239 Melbourne. 01:15:58.239 --> 01:15:59.359 Melbourne. 01:15:59.359 --> 01:16:08.960 The funny thing is the the defensive coordinator for the uh 49ers, he was born on September 3rd, but they traveled earlier. 01:16:08.960 --> 01:16:21.199 So his birthday, his 50th birthday was on the third, but they started their flight on the Wednesday evening on the second, and they flew over the international dateline, which basically skipped his birthday. 01:16:22.720 --> 01:16:26.319 I was hoping he had double birthday, but that's when you come back, you would get the boy. 01:16:26.479 --> 01:16:29.920 I mean, does are you allowed to celebrate a birthday with your feet like not on ground? 01:16:30.159 --> 01:16:31.920 I consider him 49 for another year. 01:16:31.920 --> 01:16:32.640 Oh, yeah. 01:16:32.640 --> 01:16:34.640 So he has to relive this 50th year. 01:16:34.640 --> 01:16:36.640 If you miss the day, you don't get it. 01:16:36.640 --> 01:16:37.520 Like it's causes. 01:16:37.840 --> 01:16:39.359 So what about the people at the end of February? 01:16:39.359 --> 01:16:40.159 What what happens to them? 01:16:40.159 --> 01:16:41.840 Because every four years in a leapier, right? 01:16:42.000 --> 01:16:42.079 Yeah. 01:16:42.079 --> 01:16:43.760 So they're only, you know, I I know some. 01:16:43.760 --> 01:16:44.800 Quarter of their age? 01:16:44.800 --> 01:16:45.680 Much slower. 01:16:45.680 --> 01:16:50.880 Yeah, I I know I know two leapier people who are 11 and 12. 01:16:50.880 --> 01:16:51.279 Wow. 01:16:51.279 --> 01:16:52.720 You know, a little older than us.

01:16:52.720 --> 01:16:53.840 Interesting. 01:16:54.000 --> 01:16:54.239 Yeah. 01:16:54.239 --> 01:16:54.720 Okay. 01:16:54.720 --> 01:17:01.039 So the second piece here, I know we talked about the the unit of s of a second is the cesium atom, the frequency of. 01:17:01.039 --> 01:17:06.319 It's the isotrope cesium, the 133rd, which is the atomic mass of it, clearly. 01:17:06.319 --> 01:17:11.680 We talked about how, you know, if we could control the unit of time, how would we, you know, change it? 01:17:11.680 --> 01:17:15.920 Well, if we want to make the unit of time longer, we would have to figure out another atom to choose. 01:17:15.920 --> 01:17:19.520 So let's go with hydrogen one, the first isotrope of hydrogen. 01:17:19.520 --> 01:17:24.960 That will give you a frequency that is lower, which allows you to create the wavelength that is physically longer. 01:17:24.960 --> 01:17:34.880 So now you're looking at if you want to have the isolations of uh hydrogen one, you're actually gonna go six and a half times longer than the current unit of seconds. 01:17:34.880 --> 01:17:39.760 So basically it would take six seconds to equate to this new isotrope of hydrogen. 01:17:40.159 --> 01:17:41.439 Okay, and that sounds great to me. 01:17:41.439 --> 01:17:42.800 So I think we should start doing that. 01:17:42.800 --> 01:17:44.960 So if we want to change that, that's that's a good thing. 01:17:44.960 --> 01:17:55.439 Starting next week, we could so starting next week, the f uh a minute is actually for us will be sixty times, it'll be six minutes essentially, six and a half minutes for our minute. 01:17:55.439 --> 01:17:55.760 Yeah. 01:17:55.760 --> 01:17:56.960 Time's yours. 01:17:57.119 --> 01:17:57.439 Yeah. 01:17:57.439 --> 01:18:07.439 And then uh the number of seconds in the current units of uh of uh cesium is there's six hundred thousand four thousand six hundred four thousand eight hundred seconds in a week. 01:18:07.439 --> 01:18:08.399 That's nice. 01:18:08.399 --> 01:18:08.800 Yeah. 01:18:09.359 --> 01:18:09.439 Cool. 01:18:09.439 --> 01:18:10.800 And do you know what a jiffy is? 01:18:10.800 --> 01:18:12.000 That's actually a unit of time. 01:18:12.239 --> 01:18:13.039 A good old jiffy. 01:18:13.039 --> 01:18:14.720 Um one one hundredth of it. 01:18:14.720 --> 01:18:15.680 It's also a peanut butter. 01:18:15.680 --> 01:18:16.560 All right, next question. 01:18:16.560 --> 01:18:18.720 Which lies uh the buckeye, right? 01:18:18.720 --> 01:18:19.680 So what is the buckeye? 01:18:19.680 --> 01:18:25.760 It's a tree, it's a medium-sized tree in the soap berry family. 01:18:25.760 --> 01:18:26.239 Oh. 01:18:26.239 --> 01:18:28.560 It's the official state tree of Ohio. 01:18:28.560 --> 01:18:29.600 So a soap berry. 01:18:29.600 --> 01:18:31.760 And the buckeye is the nut of that. 01:18:31.760 --> 01:18:36.640 It's a glossy brown nut, and it has a a feature in it, a light tan patch in it. 01:18:36.640 --> 01:18:43.760 And you know, there's people that make these really delicious peanut butter chocolate desserts that are called the buckeyes, which essentially looks like that. 01:18:43.760 --> 01:18:45.920 So you gotta try them. 01:18:45.920 --> 01:18:48.640 And you know, Halloween's coming up, so we maybe maybe somebody will give out some of the things. 01:18:48.640 --> 01:18:50.399 I'll make some buckeyes for you, Dan. 01:18:50.399 --> 01:18:50.800 Yeah. 01:18:50.800 --> 01:18:51.920 I I'll do that for you. 01:18:52.239 --> 01:18:52.399 Yeah. 01:18:52.399 --> 01:18:54.960 I'm rooting for the longhorns in that game, there's that for eye. 01:18:54.960 --> 01:18:55.439 Oh, good. 01:18:55.439 --> 01:18:56.159 So you don't want the. 01:18:56.159 --> 01:18:59.119 But I think Ohio State You're not a shiny brown nut guy. 01:18:59.119 --> 01:19:04.399 I think the longhorns win that game, but I think the buckeyes win the national championship. 01:19:04.399 --> 01:19:10.239 You like your your horns long, your Johnson's white, and your your nuts shiny, brown nuts. 01:19:11.279 --> 01:19:14.399 RD department here had said, like, you guys I can't believe you guys messed it up. 01:19:14.399 --> 01:19:15.119 You said Randy? 01:19:15.119 --> 01:19:15.840 I don't think you're saying. 01:19:15.840 --> 01:19:16.800 Yeah, it's not Randy. 01:19:16.800 --> 01:19:17.279 It's Rob. 01:19:17.279 --> 01:19:19.039 Rob and Rob and Doug. 01:19:19.039 --> 01:19:20.079 Rob and Duck. 01:19:20.079 --> 01:19:20.720 Oh, my bad. 01:19:20.880 --> 01:19:21.760 I've been calling them Randy. 01:19:21.920 --> 01:19:23.680 Don't you guys sign these guys paychecks? 01:19:24.000 --> 01:19:25.520 It's good, it's good to keep them on their toes. 01:19:25.520 --> 01:19:31.840 Like sometimes there's people, you know, the people that work under you, if you change their name up, it's like if they don't correct you, it's weak. 01:19:31.840 --> 01:19:34.319 If they do correct you, like, who are they to correct you? 01:19:34.319 --> 01:19:36.239 You know, it's a minute to spell. 01:19:36.239 --> 01:19:37.920 You know, Randy, calm down. 01:19:38.239 --> 01:19:38.399 All right. 01:19:38.399 --> 01:19:39.119 Take it easy. 01:19:39.119 --> 01:19:40.720 I can hear him in the background getting mad. 01:19:40.720 --> 01:19:44.000 Oh, less amazing interview guy. 01:19:44.000 --> 01:19:44.159 Yeah. 01:19:44.159 --> 01:19:45.600 I just I'm just astounded. 01:19:45.600 --> 01:19:46.560 I can't correct anything. 01:19:46.560 --> 01:19:48.640 I'm actually more impressed that he was able to. 01:19:48.640 --> 01:19:52.960 So Landard Dickison, we talked a little about him and his 40 time, and he's like, oh yeah, he's like 5'2. 01:19:52.960 --> 01:19:53.760 That's true. 01:19:53.760 --> 01:19:57.039 Uh well, we all know that Landon, when he was drafted, he was injured, right? 01:19:57.039 --> 01:19:58.239 He had a hurt knee at the time. 01:19:58.239 --> 01:20:16.319 So Alabama didn't run in the the calm mind, but he did do it in high school, and his time in

high school was 5.28 cesium 133rd isotropes oscillations, which is also that's for our physicist listeners, but uh in you know, and anybody else who's listening, it's that's in seconds. 01:20:16.399 --> 01:20:20.079 So it's like 31 or 32 of our seconds. 01:20:20.079 --> 01:20:22.560 Yeah, if you want to if you want to change it up of set hikes. 01:20:22.560 --> 01:20:23.680 Nice. 01:20:23.680 --> 01:20:24.000 Yeah. 01:20:24.000 --> 01:20:25.840 I've seen faster 40s than that. 01:20:25.840 --> 01:20:27.199 But dude, but that's crazy. 01:20:27.199 --> 01:20:28.159 He was just right on that. 01:20:28.159 --> 01:20:30.000 I don't know how he retains that. 01:20:30.000 --> 01:20:31.760 Yeah, it's just it's just so cool, man. 01:20:31.760 --> 01:20:36.239 It was it was great, it was great to even the 1948 fact that he pulled out. 01:20:36.239 --> 01:20:36.880 That was awesome. 01:20:36.880 --> 01:20:39.439 I mean, that was like rapid. 01:20:39.439 --> 01:20:40.640 As as advertised. 01:20:40.640 --> 01:20:42.399 Thank you, Randy and Doug. 01:20:42.399 --> 01:20:46.960 This this is a time that it's finally here. 01:20:46.960 --> 01:20:48.479 It is finally here. 01:20:48.479 --> 01:20:49.279 I've been talking. 01:20:49.279 --> 01:20:53.920 I've been talking about this stupid roller coaster metaphor. 01:20:53.920 --> 01:20:54.800 You've been sick of it. 01:20:54.800 --> 01:20:55.680 Everybody has. 01:20:55.680 --> 01:20:58.000 It's really it honestly didn't make any sense. 01:20:58.000 --> 01:21:01.520 I mean, we tried to fill the time, like be like the season ended. 01:21:01.520 --> 01:21:03.119 We just did all this like weird stuff. 01:21:03.119 --> 01:21:04.159 The Olympics. 01:21:04.159 --> 01:21:11.680 I had to talk crap on Baltimore for like six weeks, and then I had to talk about, I don't know, we picked what Uruguay to do something. 01:21:11.680 --> 01:21:12.720 I don't even remember. 01:21:12.720 --> 01:21:15.119 Yeah, we were just talking about a bunch of nonsense. 01:21:15.920 --> 01:21:18.319 Then we had the World Cup that saved us for a little bit. 01:21:18.319 --> 01:21:20.960 And it did not, but horse racing. 01:21:21.279 --> 01:21:26.560 We we liked horses, World Cup, some golf, we had Double Winchester, which was really cool. 01:21:26.560 --> 01:21:28.159 We had great cop guests folks. 01:21:28.399 --> 01:21:31.279 We were forced to talk to random people that we've got. 01:21:31.279 --> 01:21:32.479 This is what I mean. 01:21:32.560 --> 01:21:34.880 We survived this is what you sign up for. 01:21:34.880 --> 01:21:43.520 Man, you know, it's one of those things where this is the time when you do you hop in with Seth because this is all the riot starts. 01:21:43.520 --> 01:21:49.279 This is when the cologne goes on, the Johnson stand tall, and we are here and ready, boys. 01:21:49.279 --> 01:21:49.760 Yeah. 01:21:49.760 --> 01:21:52.079 Let's so let's start the season right. 01:21:52.079 --> 01:21:52.960 Let's see. 01:21:52.960 --> 01:21:54.079 Here we go. 01:21:54.079 --> 01:21:56.720 Let's go. 01:21:57.600 --> 01:22:00.399 Thank you to us, but let's go first. 01:22:07.279 --> 01:22:08.960 Let's have a great deal. 01:22:13.439 --> 01:22:22.640 And watch our eagle spies, fly gold spike on the road to victory. 01:22:24.319 --> 01:22:28.239 Hey, oh, eagle gold spikes.