Full Transcript for Muscle Talk! Will Derek Lunsford win the Olympia again?

got a little basset hound and a pickle, actually. 00:01:37.680 --> 00:01:39.359 So, yeah, one of these times. 00:01:39.599 --> 00:01:40.879 Basset hounds are fantastic. 00:01:41.040 --> 00:01:42.480 Those are the ones with the big ears. 00:01:42.719 --> 00:01:45.200 Yeah, Teresa, bring Dixie over here real quick. 00:01:45.359 --> 00:01:46.640 She can show her on the camera. 00:01:46.879 --> 00:01:47.519 Yeah, definitely. 00:01:47.599 --> 00:01:48.799 That's the dog's name, Dixie. 00:01:48.879 --> 00:01:49.760 That's the perfect name. 00:01:49.920 --> 00:01:50.959 Yeah, yeah. 00:01:51.120 --> 00:01:52.319 She's gonna bring her over here. 00:01:52.400 --> 00:01:53.200 She's a good girl. 00:01:53.359 --> 00:01:53.840 All right, good. 00:01:54.159 --> 00:01:55.519 We have uh then we have Mr. 00:01:55.680 --> 00:01:56.239 Bo over there. 00:01:56.319 --> 00:02:00.159 But yeah, man, um, I'm definitely a huge dog person if she comes right here. 00:02:00.400 --> 00:02:01.680 Okay, well, let me let's see Dixie. 00:02:02.480 --> 00:02:03.359 We're gonna see Dixie. 00:02:03.519 --> 00:02:04.239 No, bring her over here. 00:02:04.319 --> 00:02:04.799 Bring her back. 00:02:05.200 --> 00:02:05.680 No, no, wrap. 00:02:05.760 --> 00:02:06.640 I gotta see her face. 00:02:06.959 --> 00:02:07.359 Oh shit. 00:02:08.719 --> 00:02:12.319 Uh she's adorable. 00:02:12.639 --> 00:02:13.680 Oh my god. 00:02:14.879 --> 00:02:16.639 That is fantastic. 00:02:16.960 --> 00:02:18.319 Uh she's beautiful. 00:02:18.560 --> 00:02:19.120 Hi, by the way. 00:02:20.240 --> 00:02:23.039 He's an ice, man. 00:02:23.199 --> 00:02:23.840 I love her. 00:02:24.080 --> 00:02:26.719 Uh so yeah, I'm a I'm a dog person through and through. 00:02:26.800 --> 00:02:28.800 I'll I'll never have less than two dogs. 00:02:29.120 --> 00:02:29.680 Hell no. 00:02:30.159 --> 00:02:34.080 I actually want I actually want a bigger house and a bigger yard, so I can get a third, to be honest with you. 00:02:34.319 --> 00:02:34.719 Really? 00:02:34.879 --> 00:02:36.080 Yeah, I just love those. 00:02:36.479 --> 00:02:38.400 Yeah, I I totally feel that, man. 00:02:38.560 --> 00:02:40.800 So the other, let's see, what other announcements do we have? 00:02:40.879 --> 00:02:44.000 Okay, the other announcement is I have a Patreon channel. 00:02:44.159 --> 00:02:51.360 So in the Patreon channel, you're gonna get a lot of cont well, you're gonna get all content that you're not gonna be able to get on YouTube or Spotify or Rumble. 00:02:51.919 --> 00:02:53.120 Uh, where else do I? 00:02:53.280 --> 00:02:56.000 I have YouTube, Spotify, Rumble, Apple iTunes. 00:02:56.159 --> 00:02:57.919 Yeah, you're not gonna get any other content. 00:02:58.000 --> 00:03:07.360 You're gonna get me in the gym, working out, uh uh weight training tips, uh, just behind the scenes stuff. 00:03:07.520 --> 00:03:22.560 You I I actually have, you know what I put up when I first started my old channel during COVID, me and my friends from work would do this thing called Guy Talk on Friday nights, and we would just drink and get drunk and then fucking and then fucking and talk shit. 00:03:22.639 --> 00:03:24.879 And I I've had that in the vault for years. 00:03:24.960 --> 00:03:28.800 So that's on Patreon now, and it's it's hilarious. 00:03:29.120 --> 00:03:32.400 So you go to Patreon, the link is it will be in the description. 00:03:32.560 --> 00:03:39.919 The my website is in the description, and you you'll get uh it's uh I think it's ten dollars, yeah, ten dollars a month. 00:03:40.080 --> 00:03:49.439 Um, obviously, uh my sponsor is Vintage Muscle, uh um Equomas, which is what I'm using right now, and Uranaball is what I'm using right now. 00:03:49.759 --> 00:03:52.159 Um vintage muscle.com. 00:03:52.319 --> 00:03:54.319 They have a lot of drops and whatnot. 00:03:54.560 --> 00:03:55.919 Did you ever hear of these things? 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All right. 00:05:11.120 --> 00:05:12.560 We're waiting for Chris. 00:05:12.720 --> 00:05:14.399 Masara, hopefully he shows up. 00:05:14.480 --> 00:05:16.160 But until then, it's me and you. 00:05:16.399 --> 00:05:18.560 So let's just jump into topic at hand. 00:05:19.600 --> 00:05:21.360 Did you see Samson in Germany? 00:05:21.439 --> 00:05:22.879 No, I did a wrap-up of it. 00:05:23.120 --> 00:05:23.360 Yeah. 00:05:23.519 --> 00:05:23.839 Okay. 00:05:24.319 --> 00:05:33.120 I did a wrap-up of it because I had actually had I had Aaron Berg on, who's a bodybuilder and comedian, with us on Monday, uh with me and Lee. 00:05:33.199 --> 00:05:39.199 So we weren't going to be able to talk about bodybuilding because Aaron's a comic, so we were just having fun bullshitting. 00:05:39.439 --> 00:05:45.600 And then um Lee is actually traveling right now as we speak to California from Australia to California. 00:05:45.759 --> 00:05:46.959 So he's going to be all over the states. 00:05:47.120 --> 00:05:47.920 He'll be at the Olympia. 00:05:48.000 --> 00:05:50.480 So we wasn't be able to come on today. 00:05:50.639 --> 00:05:53.759 But did you see Samson at uh Germany? 00:05:54.000 --> 00:05:55.120 Yep, I did see Samson. 00:05:55.439 --> 00:05:56.160 I think the whole world did. 00:05:56.240 --> 00:05:58.240 If you didn't, you're living up meet the rock, but yeah, right. 00:05:58.480 --> 00:05:58.720 Exactly. 00:05:58.959 --> 00:05:59.759 I definitely saw him. 00:05:59.839 --> 00:06:00.720 So what did you think? 00:06:00.800 --> 00:06:01.279 What did you think? 00:06:01.439 --> 00:06:02.720 Oh, want me want me to say first? 00:06:03.040 --> 00:06:05.439 Yeah, you start the one because I want to hear your what you thought. 00:06:05.600 --> 00:06:08.319 Uh clearly he as soon as he walked out, he won. 00:06:08.399 --> 00:06:09.519 I mean, that goes without saying. 00:06:09.759 --> 00:06:11.120 He was obviously two weeks out. 00:06:11.199 --> 00:06:15.680 He was he was sweating, so he probably just, you know, did he probably just showed up. 00:06:15.759 --> 00:06:20.959 You know, he probably didn't do a diuretic, he probably didn't cut his water, he probably, you know, uh didn't cob up. 00:06:21.120 --> 00:06:22.959 He he knew that he could just take that. 00:06:23.120 --> 00:06:27.360 Um, and basically, I I I I took it as a couple of things. 00:06:27.439 --> 00:06:32.079 I took it as him as a as a warning call to all the all the bodybuilders in in the Olympia. 00:06:32.240 --> 00:06:38.560 And and it's uh uh you know, a pr it was a practice run for him, which I thought was a good idea. 00:06:38.720 --> 00:06:41.279 I always think it's a good idea because you never know. 00:06:41.360 --> 00:06:43.600 Like last year he missed the mark a little bit, you know what I mean? 00:06:43.680 --> 00:06:47.040 But the year before he did France and then he he won the Olympia. 00:06:47.360 --> 00:06:49.439 Now he uh he came in. 00:06:50.959 --> 00:06:51.600 What's up, Chris? 00:06:51.680 --> 00:06:52.720 What's up, dude? 00:06:53.920 --> 00:06:56.240 So we're just talking about Samson in Germany, man. 00:06:56.480 --> 00:06:56.800 Yes. 00:06:57.920 --> 00:06:59.839 So uh he came out. 00:07:00.079 --> 00:07:02.399 Clearly, he was sweating, so he was uh two weeks out. 00:07:02.879 --> 00:07:05.439 You know, uh uh he looked massive. 00:07:05.600 --> 00:07:15.279 I mean, in that lineup, he just in that lineup, I mean, uh with the exception of Regan, everybody else was like tier two, tier three bodybuilders, you know, and even Regan was like light years away. 00:07:15.600 --> 00:07:16.720 But here's the thing. 00:07:16.879 --> 00:07:23.839 Um it's still I'm not it's still any man's game. 00:07:24.399 --> 00:07:26.959 Because if you're who what show did did Nick do this year? 00:07:27.120 --> 00:07:27.519 Tampa? 00:07:27.920 --> 00:07:28.160 Tampa. 00:07:28.959 --> 00:07:37.199 Yeah, when Tam when he came out in Tampa, uh it was a different it was it was a different type of wow factor, especially from the back. 00:07:37.839 --> 00:08:19.360 I mean he was his Nick's rear double buy was just fucking insane, and his side shots were insane and even though uh Samson had more of a wow factor with his size and shape, um when it comes to conditioning and those rear shots and even some of the side shots, if and to me, to me, and then Matt, I'll we'll go to you, but to me, if I'm Nick, Derek, and maybe even Andrew Jack, even if I'm Martin, because Martin did beat Samson in Prague last year, and hopefully Martin comes in good shape and he you know he learns from his lesson. 00:08:19.920 --> 00:08:21.360 I I'm not that worried. 00:08:21.680 --> 00:08:22.800 I'm not that worried. 00:08:23.600 --> 00:08:25.279 You know, uh what do you think, Matt? 00:08:25.360 --> 00:08:25.839 Go ahead. 00:08:26.399 --> 00:08:29.680 All right, so we'll we'll touch base on how I thought he looked at Germany. 00:08:29.759 --> 00:08:32.080 I mean, I nothing that I didn't expect, right? 00:08:32.159 --> 00:08:35.840 Obviously, we knew he was gonna destroy everybody, and that's how good Samson is. 00:08:35.919 --> 00:08:39.519 He's gonna walk out, he's gonna kill everyone when he's at you know, one of those shows. 00:08:39.759 --> 00:08:41.759 Period, Point Blanc, Poor Regan got killed. 00:08:41.840 --> 00:08:42.720 It is what it is, right? 00:08:42.879 --> 00:08:48.559 Yeah, now when you compare him to the top dogs, he's not gonna fare well with them. 00:08:48.639 --> 00:08:49.679 And I gotta be honest, man. 00:08:49.919 --> 00:08:51.919 People say it can't it's anybody's game this year. 00:08:52.159 --> 00:08:53.279 I mean, we talked about it before. 00:08:53.360 --> 00:08:53.919 I disagree. 00:08:54.000 --> 00:08:56.480 I think it's one person's show to lose, and that's Derek. 00:08:56.559 --> 00:08:59.360 I think he's gonna come and sweep the, I think it's not even gonna be close. 00:08:59.600 --> 00:09:01.360 But let's talk about Samson. 00:09:01.440

--> 00:09:04.960 I do think he put on a lot more size, way bigger, way more full. 00:09:05.200 --> 00:09:07.600 The water thing, man, people are hammering them about that. 00:09:07.679 --> 00:09:09.679 Guys, listen, he's just walking on stage. 00:09:09.759 --> 00:09:12.559 He's gonna be watery, like he's not dropping his water. 00:09:12.639 --> 00:09:14.960 He just he just walked on stage and have a good day. 00:09:15.120 --> 00:09:21.200 So you can have it with a grain of uh put it with a grain of salt, but to me, everyone was talking about how big Samson was. 00:09:21.279 --> 00:09:23.279 He's 320, he's this big monster guy. 00:09:23.440 --> 00:09:31.919 At the end of the day, he still needs to do some work, he still has to grow a little more back tissue, a little more hamstring tissue to compete with like Derek and Nick. 00:09:32.000 --> 00:09:34.720 Honestly, I think Nick from the back is gonna sweep him, it's not even gonna be close. 00:09:35.120 --> 00:09:37.679 But then you turn him around and Samson will hold his weight. 00:09:37.759 --> 00:09:44.080 But I think when it comes down to like Nick and really Nick specifically, or not Nenick, but Derek specifically, Derek's sweeping, man. 00:09:44.240 --> 00:09:45.200 No one's even on his level. 00:09:45.519 --> 00:09:46.399 Good, uh, Chris. 00:09:46.480 --> 00:09:47.279 What do you think? 00:09:47.840 --> 00:09:50.480 When it comes to that comparison, I don't know. 00:09:51.039 --> 00:09:52.000 Well, did you see him in Germany? 00:09:52.159 --> 00:09:52.799 You watched the show? 00:09:53.039 --> 00:09:53.759 Yeah, I watched it. 00:09:54.080 --> 00:09:56.720 Okay, um, what did you think of him in Germany? 00:09:57.120 --> 00:10:04.399 So when I saw him in Germany, the first thing I thought was, man, like he looks like a Mr. 00:10:04.480 --> 00:10:05.039 Olympia. 00:10:05.360 --> 00:10:06.720 Like, when when we think of uh Mr. 00:10:06.799 --> 00:10:10.159 Olympia, we think of like this guy who's big and he's jacked, he's round and everything. 00:10:10.240 --> 00:10:12.000 So, like, I mean, I was wowed. 00:10:12.080 --> 00:10:14.720 I think that he's a a freak of a bodybuilder. 00:10:14.960 --> 00:10:20.799 Um now, like what you said before about how he just walked on stage, I think so too. 00:10:20.960 --> 00:10:25.440 I I don't think that he really fully conditioned himself or dried out or anything for that. 00:10:25.519 --> 00:10:29.120 And I don't think that's gonna be I think we're gonna see a different Samson when it comes to the Olympia. 00:10:29.200 --> 00:10:29.440 Yeah. 00:10:29.840 --> 00:10:31.679 So I think we're all excited for that. 00:10:31.919 --> 00:10:38.879 When it comes to Samson versus Derek, I mean I don't know why people keep writing Derek off. 00:10:38.960 --> 00:10:40.320 Like it, like he's not Mr. 00:10:40.480 --> 00:10:43.279 Olympia, like he's got the least amount of flaws on stage. 00:10:43.440 --> 00:10:47.039 You know, when you look at Samson, you know, he's got

all the size in the world. 00:10:47.200 --> 00:10:52.639 He's um I the only thing I'll disagree with Matt on is that he needs to grow more. 00:10:52.720 --> 00:10:55.360 I don't think if he adds any more tissue, he's not gonna help him, though. 00:10:55.519 --> 00:11:04.559 Because he just when you when you've already grown and and like lost lines in your back or your hamstrings or whatever it is, you're not gonna gain them ever again. 00:11:04.720 --> 00:11:07.200 So this is this is the best Samson that we're gonna see. 00:11:07.519 --> 00:11:07.759 I agree. 00:11:08.080 --> 00:11:11.919 Um you know, so obviously if he comes in tighter, that's what we need to see. 00:11:12.000 --> 00:11:13.759 But he's already said like that's not his game. 00:11:13.840 --> 00:11:17.440 He's not gonna try to come in condition, or not, not not come in. 00:11:17.840 --> 00:11:18.960 Let me just rephrase that. 00:11:19.039 --> 00:11:25.840 He didn't say he's not gonna come in condition, he's just not gonna play that game when you have something like Derek, someone like Derek up there and everything. 00:11:26.159 --> 00:11:27.840 So I mean, I don't know. 00:11:28.080 --> 00:11:30.799 It's it's really gonna be apples and oranges completely up there. 00:11:31.039 --> 00:11:47.200 Yeah, and he I heat that next level can that that insane conditioning that you know, Nick Walker, uh Derek from the back, Bronny Coleman, fucking insane, ridiculous conditioning. 00:11:47.360 --> 00:11:48.960 Samson is never gonna get. 00:11:49.120 --> 00:11:50.240 I think Chris is right. 00:11:50.399 --> 00:11:54.080 I think this is the best Samson you're gonna see as far as size and structure. 00:11:54.480 --> 00:11:56.480 Um, it's I want to say this though. 00:11:57.279 --> 00:12:02.720 Like, I don't think he has body fat, like maybe he has a little bit there, but like it's not like he's fat. 00:12:02.879 --> 00:12:04.240 Like, this is what I'm trying to say. 00:12:04.320 --> 00:12:11.519 When these guys grow at that rate, like, and it's not like they can help themselves, like they just walk, like I'm sure that he just walks in the gym and gets bigger. 00:12:11.679 --> 00:12:14.720 Like, I've seen his workouts, and I don't want to say like he doesn't train hard. 00:12:14.799 --> 00:12:19.120 Obviously, he trains hard, but it's just literally anything he does, he gets bigger. 00:12:19.279 --> 00:12:22.080 So when you're growing at that rate, you're probably gonna lose some size. 00:12:22.240 --> 00:12:25.360 You're not not that you're not you're probably gonna lose some lines. 00:12:25.679 --> 00:12:32.000 So genetically, if you don't have that, those deep, deep cut lines, it's like they're not gonna just appear out of nowhere. 00:12:32.240 --> 00:12:33.279 Yeah, I think you're right. 00:12:33.440 --> 00:12:36.960 I think uh I think you're a hundred percent right. 00:12:37.039 --> 00:12:50.559 I think it is that uh is a is a it is a genetic issue where the next level conditioning that insane conditioning, the Phil Heath conditioning, that he's just not gonna be able to gain. 00:12:50.720 --> 00:12:51.840 It's just not gonna happen. 00:12:52.159 --> 00:12:54.559 Um, you gotta think Phil Heath had the best of everything. 00:12:54.639 --> 00:12:59.759 He was black and he was white, so he had like that white guy hardness, he's got the black guy roundness. 00:13:00.720 --> 00:13:02.080 Let's call spade a spade. 00:13:02.159 --> 00:13:03.279 Like, you know, he was literally poked. 00:13:03.440 --> 00:13:04.320 He was like no pun intended. 00:13:05.039 --> 00:13:05.440 Same thing. 00:13:05.519 --> 00:13:08.799 Half you think Kevin Lagorney was what half Italian, half black? 00:13:08.960 --> 00:13:12.559 Like, come on, you know, like let me ask you guys something. 00:13:12.639 --> 00:13:14.879 I'm I mean, I know we and Nick talked about this before, right? 00:13:15.039 --> 00:13:17.039 I mean, I've never been on the Samson hype train. 00:13:17.120 --> 00:13:21.120 I feel like in 2024, when he was getting some momentum, he when he won the Mr. 00:13:21.279 --> 00:13:24.320 Olympia, guys, uh Derek was completely off. 00:13:24.480 --> 00:13:28.480 Like he was off, he wasn't even the same fucking Derek we saw the year before, right? 00:13:28.639 --> 00:13:33.200 And then he came back the next year and he was the Derek that we've all seen, and Samson tried to play that strike game. 00:13:33.279 --> 00:13:34.720 And I agree with Chris, I guess. 00:13:34.799 --> 00:13:40.000 I mean, I just but I feel like it's if you don't got a back and you can't get that condition, there's you're missing two of the things. 00:13:40.080 --> 00:13:42.639 He's not fully field and he doesn't have a back, he ain't winning the Mr. 00:13:42.720 --> 00:13:43.200 Olympia, bro. 00:13:43.360 --> 00:13:44.399 At least that's what I yeah. 00:13:44.639 --> 00:13:46.559 I kind of unless somebody's off, unless somebody's off. 00:13:46.639 --> 00:13:47.120 Like it's not. 00:13:47.840 --> 00:13:48.639 I agree with you, Matt. 00:13:48.720 --> 00:14:01.120 And the the reason why I think the majority of people don't like Derek is I think people have a very difficult time, and not that I think, I know people have a very difficult time separating their emotion from a reasonable point of view. 00:14:01.279 --> 00:14:03.200 And people just don't like Derek. 00:14:03.360 --> 00:14:04.320 Don't ask me why. 00:14:04.480 --> 00:14:06.399 I don't know why people don't like Derek. 00:14:06.480 --> 00:14:09.840 And and I think Derek finally embraced that because he's playing the villain. 00:14:10.080 --> 00:14:12.159 I think that is a good card to play. 00:14:12.399 --> 00:14:16.960 Before that, when he was like really trying to make people love him and like him, it just wasn't working. 00:14:17.120 --> 00:14:20.399 I like the idea that he's playing the villain and basically saying nobody's gonna beat me. 00:14:20.480 --> 00:14:23.279 That's he's doing the uh the um the Floyd Mayweather

thing. 00:14:23.360 --> 00:14:29.919 Now, and I do think listen, uh here's the difference as far as I could see with Derek and Samson. 00:14:30.000 --> 00:14:31.279 Derek's 32. 00:14:32.399 --> 00:14:35.120 And he still has plenty of time to get better. 00:14:35.519 --> 00:14:38.799 I think we're gonna see a better version of Derek than we did last year. 00:14:40.000 --> 00:14:43.440 And Samson is I think he's around 40 at this point. 00:14:44.480 --> 00:14:44.720 Right? 00:14:44.799 --> 00:14:47.360 I think he's a problem, yeah, he's around 40 at this point. 00:14:48.000 --> 00:14:54.720 And I think we have seen I think Samson is definitely gonna be in the top three. 00:14:54.799 --> 00:14:55.840 That goes without saying. 00:14:56.639 --> 00:15:01.039 But I I'm not the door's not shut. 00:15:01.120 --> 00:15:02.000 And I think you're right. 00:15:02.159 --> 00:15:07.360 I think uh to to be the champion, you gotta beat the champion, and you're gonna have to beat Derek. 00:15:07.440 --> 00:15:15.600 And Derek's not Derek learned from 2024, and Asito knows him very well at this point. 00:15:15.919 --> 00:15:17.440 And I think it's who happens. 00:15:18.080 --> 00:15:24.320 Yeah, and I mean I'm pretty sure we're gonna see a Derek that is even better than the Derek we saw last year. 00:15:24.639 --> 00:15:29.039 Um I'm excited to see Nick in the mix because Nick was way off last year. 00:15:29.120 --> 00:15:30.799 He wasn't there in 2024. 00:15:30.960 --> 00:15:37.519 He came out in Tampa, his his condition, his, his, he's able to be able to control his waist. 00:15:37.600 --> 00:15:40.000 He seems to be getting better with the details. 00:15:40.240 --> 00:15:42.240 His details are incredible. 00:15:42.480 --> 00:15:45.039 He's he's his transitions are better. 00:15:45.279 --> 00:15:51.360 Um, so I'm really, really excited to see how Nick plays a role in this. 00:15:51.440 --> 00:15:52.720 What do you think, Chris? 00:15:52.879 --> 00:16:00.720 I I mean, so uh as you're talking, all I'm thinking about is as a bodybuilder, what how do you lose? 00:16:00.879 --> 00:16:02.240 You lose by flaws, okay? 00:16:02.320 --> 00:16:04.240 At that level, everyone's amazing, right? 00:16:04.320 --> 00:16:06.639 So you have to look at who has the least amount of flaws. 00:16:06.960 --> 00:16:20.799 And I'm just thinking, I just watched the uh the battle of of Derek versus Nick, and something that I I just couldn't believe watching was just Derek couldn't not not that he couldn't control his midsection, he just couldn't flex his abs, like they weren't there. 00:16:20.879 --> 00:16:22.559 It was just like a mushmash in the middle. 00:16:22.639 --> 00:16:24.399 So it was like distracting, you know. 00:16:24.559 --> 00:16:32.960 So it's like, let's if you start listing out flaws, you're like, okay, so Derek's abs are quite weak, and he has weak biceps in reality. 00:16:33.120 --> 00:16:41.679 Yeah, if he over diets, his legs get a little wonky looking, like they they they're they're still big, but there's no they lose fullness, you know, right there. 00:16:41.759 --> 00:16:44.879 So okay, so those are three things that could go wrong, right? 00:16:45.120 --> 00:16:52.639 Um, but he's not gonna change his biceps and and his abs, he's got a very, very tight waist when he vacuums, but abdominal thigh, he's gonna lose that pose pretty much. 00:16:52.799 --> 00:16:53.120 Yeah, yeah. 00:16:53.279 --> 00:16:54.720 And then it's like, okay, go to Samson. 00:16:54.799 --> 00:16:59.279 Okay, conditioning, he's a little bit washed out, doesn't have the deep lines. 00:16:59.519 --> 00:17:08.480 Um, if he tries to come in can even more condition, he might look a little bit flat because being full at that size is gonna take more than a week to fill him out. 00:17:08.559 --> 00:17:11.440 It's not like some NPC competitor that you can fill out on Thursday and Friday. 00:17:11.519 --> 00:17:13.440 He needs to fill out. 00:17:13.759 --> 00:17:20.400 So, like, okay, so if he tries to come in condition, he'll look flat and he doesn't already have the lines the other guy does. 00:17:20.559 --> 00:17:21.519 Let's look at Andrew Jack. 00:17:21.759 --> 00:17:33.519 Andrew Jack has very long limbs, he already doesn't have very diced up hamstrings, and his back is a little bit, I don't want to say weak, but it's not like that as 3D as someone like Derek or Nick. 00:17:33.680 --> 00:17:43.519 So you look at him like, okay, so if he like pulls his elbow too far back, you got they're looking at tiny little things up on stage at this point when it comes to a lot of it's posing or little things you might do wrong. 00:17:43.759 --> 00:17:50.240 So you look at Andrew, like, okay, if he pulls his elbow a little bit too far back, maybe there's a space there, makes himself look a little bit small from the side. 00:17:50.400 --> 00:17:54.160 Um, and doesn't have those diced up like hamstrings and stuff. 00:17:54.400 --> 00:18:01.839 Moving on to um Nick, obviously the stomach, but like he's been keeping it in control, but we gotta call it what it is. 00:18:01.920 --> 00:18:05.039 If he lets that stomach relax at any point, they're looking for it. 00:18:05.440 --> 00:18:21.119 Honestly, like I hate to be like you know, on the Nick train all the time, but like I think they're giving way too much shit because even Andrew, when he was relaxing at the Arnold this year, uh this past year, like he was he had a round stomach, so it's like okay, so it doesn't matter for him. 00:18:21.279 --> 00:18:30.640 Yeah, so they all really do, you know, because you can't it's just controlling it, you know, it's just controlling this past show, though. 00:18:30.720 --> 00:18:34.079 Like, I I was getting a little bit like, come on, guys, like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:18:34.319 --> 00:18:38.000 I mean, nothing like back in the day, you know what I'm saying? 00:18:38.160 --> 00:18:43.519 No, not like Phil Heath back in the day, like bumping up Bananzer and Louis

Marbury saying all the shit in the world. 00:18:43.599 --> 00:18:48.720 I have yeah, I'm just saying, yeah, I agree with that one. 00:18:48.960 --> 00:18:51.599 They're really do uh penalizing people for it now, 100%. 00:18:51.920 --> 00:19:02.559 You can't be looking 300 pounds, 250 to 300 pounds, whatever, on stage, shredded, and and and not have some type of distention because you're gonna have to eat to put to keep that size on it. 00:19:02.640 --> 00:19:08.480 It just comes down to being able to uh control that I disagree, John. 00:19:08.640 --> 00:19:12.720 Like really, I'm I'm 280 plus right now, not even trying. 00:19:12.880 --> 00:19:16.720 And when I'm when I am heavier, I mean I'm eating a lot of food. 00:19:16.799 --> 00:19:19.440 All I do all day long is suck in my stomach and keep it tight. 00:19:19.519 --> 00:19:26.880 Yeah, I do feel like it's it's not something that you you have to just do on stage, it's something you have to do all year long. 00:19:27.119 --> 00:19:30.559 You have to be diligent on it all the time, you know. 00:19:30.640 --> 00:19:35.279 Like, and and actually, Samson to his credit, actually says that he pulls a vacuum. 00:19:35.599 --> 00:19:36.720 The guy pulls a vacuum on stage. 00:19:36.960 --> 00:19:38.400 No, he has a very good stomach control. 00:19:38.480 --> 00:19:39.119 That's what I'm saying. 00:19:39.200 --> 00:19:39.839 It can be done. 00:19:39.920 --> 00:19:46.559 And look at Nick, obviously, it can be done because he got better, his way basically got smaller, so you can do it, you know. 00:19:46.799 --> 00:19:48.640 And so let's go to Matt. 00:19:48.720 --> 00:19:52.640 Let's talk about Andrew Jack for a second because uh Chris brought up a very good point. 00:19:53.440 --> 00:19:59.839 When you look at Samson, Samson's uh one thing that you have Samson is probably the best poser on stage. 00:19:59.920 --> 00:20:08.319 The guy is a phenomenal poser, his transitions he knows how to how to show his strengths, he knows how to hide his weaknesses, he has great ab control. 00:20:08.480 --> 00:20:10.480 The guy really knows what he's doing on stage. 00:20:10.880 --> 00:20:14.880 Andrew Jacked is a decent poser, he's getting better and better. 00:20:15.279 --> 00:20:20.799 We saw an amazing Andrew Jacked at uh Arnold this year. 00:20:20.960 --> 00:20:28.960 The and if if Andrew comes in like he did at the Arnold, is it a problem for everybody? 00:20:29.039 --> 00:20:30.480 What how do you look at it, Matt? 00:20:30.720 --> 00:20:31.200 All right, man. 00:20:31.279 --> 00:20:32.400 So I gotta be honest, right? 00:20:32.480 --> 00:20:38.880 I have been neg like talking, not say negatively, but I've been a hard critic of Samson and Andrew, right? 00:20:38.960 --> 00:20:43.200 But I gotta say, man, when he walked out and he won the Arnold this past year, he looked phenomenal. 00:20:43.359 --> 00:20:52.240 I mean, it actually gave me chills a little bit because I'm like, damn, okay, he okay, so I have this bet going on with one of the local coaches with Big Serb that Andrew Jackwood never won the Olympia. 00:20:52.319 --> 00:20:54.559 We made this bet three years ago, and I bet him a thousand dollars. 00:20:54.640 --> 00:21:04.400 And I on my podcast that isn't so that's how I mean obviously there's a little bit of uh worry there for me now because you see him walk out and you're like, dude, how does this guy lose, right? 00:21:04.480 --> 00:21:04.960 Like he really does. 00:21:05.359 --> 00:21:06.240 Yeah, but Nick should have beat him. 00:21:06.400 --> 00:21:07.519 Nick should beat him at the Arnold. 00:21:07.680 --> 00:21:08.000 I don't care. 00:21:08.319 --> 00:21:08.960 Hey, I I agree. 00:21:09.039 --> 00:21:10.799 I think that's it. 00:21:10.960 --> 00:21:12.480 A lot of people believe that, yes. 00:21:12.720 --> 00:21:20.240 I agree, but I do think there's extra eyes on you when you're when you're a big fan, and a lot of people are talking about you, and like kind of like what Samson was in 2024. 00:21:20.400 --> 00:21:22.400 Everybody, bro, everyone was like, Yeah, Samson's gonna win. 00:21:22.880 --> 00:21:24.240 So when he comes out, all eyes on him. 00:21:24.319 --> 00:21:29.920 So I feel like going into the Arnold, everyone was saying, at least what I what I remember is everyone was talking about that about Andrew. 00:21:30.079 --> 00:21:34.559 And if you're looking pose for pose, I agree, but uh, I mean, I think Nick is better now. 00:21:34.640 --> 00:21:36.559 I think he's better now than he was with the Arnold. 00:21:36.720 --> 00:21:37.680 Honestly, I think he is. 00:21:37.839 --> 00:21:41.279 Yeah, and I don't I don't see and I would love to tell. 00:21:41.440 --> 00:21:43.759 I don't know, have you done an Olympic prediction video yet or no? 00:21:44.000 --> 00:21:46.880 No, I haven't done no, you should definitely do one of those. 00:21:47.039 --> 00:21:50.400 But if I had to say, guys, I think that Nick is gonna be Andrew this year. 00:21:50.480 --> 00:21:56.000 I think Nick is gonna be Samson, and I personally think that's gonna be between Derek and Nick, and I think Derek is gonna edge him out. 00:21:56.079 --> 00:21:59.759 So it's a very good possibility because I I can. 00:22:00.720 --> 00:22:01.440 I agree. 00:22:01.599 --> 00:22:02.400 I I really do. 00:22:02.480 --> 00:22:06.960 I was saying I've been contemplating, I've been contemplating for a while now. 00:22:07.039 --> 00:22:13.920 And seeing Nick at Tampa and seeing Nick almost beat Andrew Jack at the Arnold, and a lot of people thought he should have won. 00:22:14.000 --> 00:22:16.799 I'm saying to myself, this kid just get kid. 00:22:16.880 --> 00:22:17.359 He's a man. 00:22:17.519 --> 00:22:20.400 This guy gets better and better and better. 00:22:21.279 --> 00:22:23.920 And he has lights out shots. 00:22:24.000 --> 00:22:26.720 He's the only one that could really hang with Derek. 00:22:27.839 --> 00:22:28.960 How do you see the shots? 00:22:29.359 --> 00:22:30.160

Not even hauling. 00:22:30.400 --> 00:22:32.319 He is the only one that can hang with Derek in the back. 00:22:32.400 --> 00:22:32.720 That's it. 00:22:32.799 --> 00:22:33.039 That's right. 00:22:33.119 --> 00:22:33.279 Yeah. 00:22:33.440 --> 00:22:33.599 Good. 00:22:33.920 --> 00:22:36.559 No, like I remember like that's that's like Derek's shot back there. 00:22:36.640 --> 00:22:40.000 But like I was just what I was just watching the video and I sent it to Andrea. 00:22:40.160 --> 00:22:44.240 And and Andrea, my wife, has, I swear to God, one of the best eyes out there. 00:22:44.319 --> 00:22:45.680 She really does haul every show. 00:22:46.000 --> 00:22:48.720 And even when I'm wrong, she's like, nope, they won because of this, this, and this. 00:22:48.799 --> 00:22:49.519 I'm like, damn. 00:22:49.599 --> 00:22:50.400 She's right. 00:22:50.640 --> 00:22:57.839 And we were watching that comparison, and I mean, I'm like, I'm just watching Nick smoke him on multiple poses, and then you turn around to the back. 00:22:57.920 --> 00:22:59.200 I'm like, all right, this one's gonna be hard. 00:22:59.279 --> 00:23:01.039 And then smoke them on both back poses. 00:23:01.119 --> 00:23:05.519 I'm like, damn, because top to bottom, Nick has the biceps, he's got the back. 00:23:05.599 --> 00:23:06.799 The hamstrings are crazy. 00:23:06.960 --> 00:23:07.599 Insane. 00:23:07.920 --> 00:23:10.559 You can stick your hand between his hamstrings, they're so deep cut. 00:23:10.640 --> 00:23:12.319 It's like, dude, yeah, how do you deny that? 00:23:12.400 --> 00:23:14.160 You know, like you're 100% right. 00:23:14.240 --> 00:23:22.880 The problem is that just rewarding aesthetics more than they're rewarding freakiness, and that's why I think they gave it to Andrew. 00:23:23.039 --> 00:23:27.839 Um, and I don't, you know, uh, that's that might be the issue at the Olympia. 00:23:27.920 --> 00:23:35.920 We have to see, but I I just you know, Nick comes out, like when Nick came out in Tampa, I was like, Jesus Christ. 00:23:36.160 --> 00:23:40.319 When when I don't even think he was 100%, I think he was like 85, 95. 00:23:40.640 --> 00:23:41.359 Oh, yeah, oh 100. 00:23:42.079 --> 00:23:42.880 I I I agree. 00:23:42.960 --> 00:23:49.279 And when when Samson came out in Germany, he obviously was the best one on stage. 00:23:50.799 --> 00:23:52.720 The sweating bothered me a little bit. 00:23:52.960 --> 00:23:53.680 I'm not gonna lie. 00:23:53.759 --> 00:24:01.920 The sweating bothered me a little bit because I look at it, I understand that he just jumped in the show as a sweating as a practice run. 00:24:02.079 --> 00:24:12.000 I get it, but the thing is, it's it just seems like when you're sweating on stage, it just it just seems like a sign of uh neglect. 00:24:12.480 --> 00:24:25.680 Of course, you know, that's you know, I'll say this though, you know, I I agree to an extent, but at the same time, like knowing he went in at 70, 75, like it was like almost like a guest posing for him. 00:24:25.839 --> 00:24:26.559 Yeah, exactly. 00:24:26.799 --> 00:24:28.160 You don't know how hot it is back there. 00:24:28.240 --> 00:24:34.880 I mean, like the one show I did uh two years ago, the promoter literally came back and said, Hey guys, I'm sorry, it's super hot. 00:24:34.960 --> 00:24:36.000 And I was like, Okay, whatever. 00:24:36.079 --> 00:24:37.759 And I was pumping up, I'm like, Oh, it's okay. 00:24:37.920 --> 00:24:41.839 The moment I walked like right to go up on stage, was like, Why the hell is it so hot? 00:24:42.079 --> 00:24:44.960 Like, I was like, and I was dry, and I was like, dude, what the heck? 00:24:45.039 --> 00:24:48.160 And I'm like having to you know pat myself down, make sure I'm good. 00:24:48.240 --> 00:25:02.480 So, like, you don't know, it could have been like crazy hot up there, but then again, the other guys weren't sweating like him, but also they were looking at like their almost like their little Olympia, you know, like everyone was trying to bring it, and then Samson came in just to fuck shit up, you know. 00:25:02.640 --> 00:25:03.359 Yeah, he really did. 00:25:03.440 --> 00:25:04.960 It was yeah, it was unbelievable. 00:25:05.039 --> 00:25:06.960 There's always some freak who ruins it for everybody. 00:25:07.200 --> 00:25:14.720 I gotta, I gotta admit that you know, I'm a huge fan of Samson, and I have the ability to like to like separate my emotion from my reason. 00:25:14.960 --> 00:25:16.799 I don't know why most a lot of people can't do that. 00:25:16.880 --> 00:25:20.559 Like, if people just fucking hate you, they just want you to lose and they don't want to hear it. 00:25:20.640 --> 00:25:21.279 I don't know why. 00:25:21.680 --> 00:25:26.000 I am my two favorite bodybuilders are Nick and Samson. 00:25:26.240 --> 00:25:32.079 And I can I could watch them on stage and I can go, okay, he should win, you know, whatever, so on and so forth. 00:25:32.160 --> 00:25:32.880 But a lot of people can't. 00:25:33.039 --> 00:25:35.279 It's very difficult for them to remove emotion. 00:25:35.440 --> 00:25:43.279 Now, the one guy I dislike, but if he doesn't drop the ball, could definitely break the top five again, is Martin. 00:25:43.440 --> 00:25:47.440 Matt, do you think he is going to fucking um bro? 00:25:47.519 --> 00:25:48.720 I'll tell you right now, man. 00:25:48.799 --> 00:25:51.599 If Martin is 100%, Martin's getting third, man. 00:25:51.759 --> 00:25:52.559 I don't know, man. 00:25:52.720 --> 00:25:58.799 He's if he's 100% Martin, he's getting third because he's not missing a single body part. 00:25:58.880 --> 00:26:03.039 If he comes in peeled and he doesn't miss the mark on conditioning, Samson ain't touching him. 00:26:03.200 --> 00:26:06.559 Sorry, unless it's I hate to say politics, but like everyone loves Samson. 00:26:06.640 --> 00:26:11.440 But if it's just based on strictly bodybuilding, he's gonna edge out Samson and he'll be Andrew Jack. 00:26:11.599 --> 00:26:15.039

Because exactly with what Chris said, it's the least amount of flaws, right? 00:26:15.119 --> 00:26:18.480 When you look at Martin, every single shot he does, guys, is lights out. 00:26:18.559 --> 00:26:25.440 Literally almost everyone, everyone, most muscular, absent thighs, fucking side chest, side tricep, back double, back last break. 00:26:25.519 --> 00:26:28.160 The guy's a monster, so I'm a big Martin fan for sure. 00:26:28.559 --> 00:26:34.720 I think the problem is the problem is like someone like Andrew can come in 85 or 90 percent to look amazing. 00:26:36.240 --> 00:26:39.359 Martin has to come in like 95 to 100, yeah. 00:26:39.519 --> 00:26:47.200 And let's be honest, like a lot of bodybuilders they only come in 100 one one show their entire career, and that might have been prog for Martin. 00:26:47.279 --> 00:26:48.240 You know, that was prog, right? 00:26:48.319 --> 00:26:49.680 Where he beat Samson, yeah, yeah. 00:26:49.920 --> 00:26:51.279 Like that might have been his 100. 00:26:51.519 --> 00:26:52.160 We don't we don't know. 00:26:52.240 --> 00:26:56.079 I'm just gonna at the Olympia, right? 00:26:56.480 --> 00:26:58.480 No, was it fourth or was it the year before? 00:26:58.799 --> 00:26:59.440 No, it was the year before. 00:27:00.240 --> 00:27:03.920 Yeah, because he got fifth and then Nick got sixth, yeah, right, right, right, right. 00:27:04.160 --> 00:27:09.920 So, like what I'm saying is like like Martin is one of those guys where like if he doesn't come in 100, he comes in 80. 00:27:10.079 --> 00:27:10.559 You know what I mean? 00:27:11.279 --> 00:27:12.480 Like it's kind of hit or miss. 00:27:12.559 --> 00:27:13.759 And yeah, Andrew came in fourth. 00:27:14.319 --> 00:27:22.960 Maybe they get over that, but you know, most guys you the reason why you we look back at like Dexter Jackson is because he came in 90 to 95 every single show. 00:27:23.680 --> 00:27:24.400 Oh, it's unbelievable. 00:27:24.559 --> 00:27:27.359 Same thing with Phil, always 90 to 95, 90 to 95. 00:27:27.680 --> 00:27:28.480 He didn't have to be 100. 00:27:28.720 --> 00:27:32.240 There, he was right there consistently, and then it was every year. 00:27:32.319 --> 00:27:36.880 Look at Jay Cutler, Jay Cutler even says 2001 and 2009, that was it for him. 00:27:37.039 --> 00:27:40.400 Yeah, you know, like I'm not gonna lie, just real quick about Dexter, man. 00:27:40.480 --> 00:27:40.880 Do you guys remember? 00:27:40.960 --> 00:27:44.960 I think it was 2000, and I want to say it was 16 or 15. 00:27:45.039 --> 00:27:47.119 Don't what was Phil's last Olympia? 00:27:47.359 --> 00:27:47.920 16? 00:27:48.160 --> 00:27:48.799 18, I think. 00:27:48.880 --> 00:27:49.920 It was like was it 18? 00:27:50.319 --> 00:27:52.000 No, I mean like when he won't third. 00:27:52.079 --> 00:27:52.559 When did he win? 00:27:53.119 --> 00:27:54.160 Yeah, yeah, like 16, I think. 00:27:54.319 --> 00:27:55.279 I think 16, right? 00:27:55.359 --> 00:27:56.000 Okay, so 15. 00:27:56.079 --> 00:27:57.039 Remember when Dexter got second? 00:27:58.079 --> 00:27:58.960 Yes, dude. 00:27:59.039 --> 00:28:01.519 Yes, I I actually could have had him winning that show. 00:28:01.599 --> 00:28:04.880 Dexter is the only man I've ever seen that got better in his career. 00:28:04.960 --> 00:28:08.160 That was the best Dexter Jackson we've ever seen when he burst to a heat that night. 00:28:08.319 --> 00:28:11.119 Dexter, I would not have been mad if it went to Dexter that day. 00:28:11.279 --> 00:28:15.519 Dexter on the fucking, you know, the uh the Mount Rushmore bodybuilding, you know. 00:28:15.839 --> 00:28:16.960 You're never gonna see another Dexter. 00:28:17.200 --> 00:28:19.519 I love that he went pro with like 120 pounds, too. 00:28:19.680 --> 00:28:21.920 You know, everyone's always like, Oh, yeah, it was unbelievable. 00:28:23.039 --> 00:28:24.319 I read an article, dude. 00:28:24.400 --> 00:28:24.880 Everyone's wrong. 00:28:25.039 --> 00:28:26.559 Yeah, you're right, you're 100% right. 00:28:26.720 --> 00:28:36.799 I read an article, um, because there was there was a period where he was off, if you remember, and then he had a resurgence, and he went to Farrah, right? 00:28:37.119 --> 00:28:40.640 And I think it was I think it was Muscular Development Magazine. 00:28:40.960 --> 00:28:48.240 And the article was basically like before he went to Farrah, Dexter would do uh three meals a day with two shakes, yeah. 00:28:48.480 --> 00:28:55.440 And then he went to Farrah and Farah had him change those shakes to meals, and all of a sudden, he's fucking battling for Mr. 00:28:55.519 --> 00:29:01.599 Olympia in in uh in 2015 again or 16, whatever it was when he was it was unbelievable. 00:29:01.680 --> 00:29:14.720 I mean look, there might be bodybuilders that are bigger or better on stage, but as far as consistency wins, uh I'm fucking acting like a professional. 00:29:17.680 --> 00:29:18.480 Right, yeah. 00:29:18.720 --> 00:29:22.720 But okay, so uh Martin, I think yes, I agree. 00:29:22.799 --> 00:29:28.480 If Martin comes in and like he did last year and last year's Olympia in Prague, I believe he's gonna break the top five. 00:29:28.559 --> 00:29:29.599 I I truly believe that. 00:29:29.680 --> 00:29:32.720 I think that guy is incredibly gifted bodybuilder. 00:29:32.880 --> 00:29:35.359 I just, you know, I would just potty's out, right? 00:29:35.519 --> 00:29:36.000 Hottie's out. 00:29:36.720 --> 00:29:37.279 Hotdy's out. 00:29:37.359 --> 00:29:37.519 Yeah. 00:29:37.839 --> 00:29:47.680 Now we got we got guys that are getting older and always break the top ten or break the top five, and they might get knocked out because there's new blood coming up, right? 00:29:47.759 --> 00:29:50.480 So you got guys like Bonack and you got guys like Brandon. 00:29:50.799 --> 00:29:52.240 Brandon Curry, yeah. 00:29:52.559 --> 00:29:53.920 He looks sick this year. 00:29:54.160 --> 00:29:55.440 He does, yeah. 00:29:55.920 --> 00:30:04.720

What young guy do you think has the best possibility of knocking one of those guys out to move up in his Tony Burton? 00:30:04.880 --> 00:30:05.279 Yeah, Chris. 00:30:05.440 --> 00:30:07.440 Well, I think he beat him last year, though, right? 00:30:07.759 --> 00:30:10.480 He beat both Brandon and he beat William last year. 00:30:10.640 --> 00:30:10.960 Yeah. 00:30:11.119 --> 00:30:12.720 Um, who's the one guy? 00:30:12.799 --> 00:30:14.079 His name's like something. 00:30:14.319 --> 00:30:15.599 God, man, he's a freak. 00:30:15.680 --> 00:30:16.880 He's the only one that impresses me. 00:30:16.960 --> 00:30:19.599 I brought him up last podcast, Damian Kuffel. 00:30:19.680 --> 00:30:20.640 I think his name is. 00:30:20.880 --> 00:30:21.680 Is that his name? 00:30:21.839 --> 00:30:23.359 Damien Kuffel or something like that. 00:30:23.599 --> 00:30:24.960 Yeah, the Polish guy, yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:30:25.279 --> 00:30:26.240 He's a fucking freak, dude. 00:30:26.319 --> 00:30:27.839 Like, he didn't do so well. 00:30:27.920 --> 00:30:28.799 He actually just competed. 00:30:29.440 --> 00:30:30.000 Yeah, yeah. 00:30:30.400 --> 00:30:31.279 I like his look. 00:30:31.359 --> 00:30:31.839 I like his look. 00:30:31.920 --> 00:30:33.759 I feel like give him another year. 00:30:34.000 --> 00:30:42.319 Yeah, he's there are definitely young guys out there that are kind of like where Tonyo and Mike Krizzo were two years ago, right? 00:30:42.400 --> 00:30:44.079 And Damien's one of those guys. 00:30:44.240 --> 00:30:51.519 But I think Tonyo is probably gonna be the guy that could break the top six uh this year. 00:30:51.920 --> 00:30:52.880 He's gonna be six. 00:30:53.200 --> 00:30:54.720 And I think he's so good. 00:30:54.880 --> 00:30:56.480 And I think he's a great physique. 00:30:56.720 --> 00:31:02.240 I think he has the ability to possibly see in the top ten, Jordan, Jordan Hutchinson. 00:31:02.319 --> 00:31:03.599 You think Jordan will be in the top ten. 00:31:03.839 --> 00:31:08.559 See, it's it's very difficult from it's a very good possibility, right? 00:31:08.640 --> 00:31:15.759 I think Jordan, you know, like I mean, he's he's new blood and he's got great conditioning, he's got a great relationship with his coach, which is big. 00:31:15.920 --> 00:31:22.319 Yeah, you know, like he trusts his coach, and and like whatever they've been doing, he's just keeps getting better and better and better. 00:31:22.400 --> 00:31:27.920 He he did have that one show where he was a little bit off, they corrected it, gave him some McDonald's, and he was good to go. 00:31:28.079 --> 00:31:30.000 Yeah, what do you think, Matt? 00:31:30.319 --> 00:31:35.680 So he says Jordan is Damien, or I mean, I think we're we're talking about Jordan, right? 00:31:35.839 --> 00:31:36.480 Yeah, yeah. 00:31:36.559 --> 00:31:43.680 I mean, basically any young bodybuilder you think that's gonna come up and really like a like a dog horse that is gonna create damage. 00:31:44.000 --> 00:31:44.880 So here's the thing. 00:31:45.119 --> 00:31:48.000 I I love Regan's physique so much. 00:31:48.319 --> 00:31:50.880 He just has never really gotten shape in his entire life. 00:31:50.960 --> 00:31:54.000 And guys, like I said, I've seen him in Atlanta fucking point blank. 00:31:54.079 --> 00:31:54.720 He was so off. 00:31:54.799 --> 00:31:56.240 And there's nothing you're gonna do the next week. 00:31:56.319 --> 00:32:02.079 He was better the next week he dropped water, but dude, if he digs deep and he comes in fully peeled, I think he could do it. 00:32:02.160 --> 00:32:07.200 I mean, even though I know he's been beaten, I but still I think Regan's a great competitor from the back, he's phenomenal. 00:32:07.440 --> 00:32:10.799 I think Jordan's Austria package, but better. 00:32:10.880 --> 00:32:12.640 We need to see better to be to be. 00:32:13.200 --> 00:32:15.359 I think I think that was the best package I've ever seen. 00:32:15.440 --> 00:32:19.839 I I think maybe I'm wrong, but I think because that was definitely the hardest I've seen him in a long time. 00:32:20.240 --> 00:32:21.359 Who's that regan? 00:32:21.599 --> 00:32:22.319 Yeah, yeah. 00:32:22.720 --> 00:32:24.000 I like Mohammed Fuda. 00:32:24.240 --> 00:32:24.799 How is he looking? 00:32:24.880 --> 00:32:26.079 Have anyone seen pictures of him? 00:32:26.240 --> 00:32:27.519 Yeah, I just uh yeah. 00:32:27.599 --> 00:32:41.119 I mean, I I get I know Mo Fuda took uh Detroit, but I think one guy that nobody's talking about, and I think it's playing to his to his advantage, and who has a really big point to prove, I think is Tabani. 00:32:42.000 --> 00:32:47.519 I think uh I think Tabani and Milos have uh a point to prove. 00:32:47.839 --> 00:32:49.759 Milos is uh is retired. 00:32:50.000 --> 00:32:51.119 I thought he was different. 00:32:51.839 --> 00:32:52.640 No, I'm just kidding. 00:32:52.799 --> 00:32:54.880 Milos was fucking around. 00:32:55.440 --> 00:32:56.480 I'm like, damn, I didn't hear that. 00:32:56.559 --> 00:32:57.680 That would have been breaking news, bro. 00:32:57.759 --> 00:32:58.559 I didn't hear that. 00:32:58.960 --> 00:33:04.480 Because if you remember when um when Tabani beat James, Tabani was a little off. 00:33:04.559 --> 00:33:06.240 A lot of people thought James won. 00:33:06.480 --> 00:33:19.119 Um but and then Milos had that big debate with Lee Priest, and I think both of those guys, because I think Tabani had such a difficult time uh this year getting the visas and being able to compete. 00:33:19.359 --> 00:33:26.240 Um people really thought James Hollings had a lot of people thought James should have won, even though even though a lot of people thought Tabani should have won as well. 00:33:26.400 --> 00:33:30.000 And then last year he showed up at the Olympia and dropped the ball. 00:33:30.240 --> 00:33:33.599 I think Tabani is looking to prove a point this year. 00:33:33.759 --> 00:33:38.400 And I I think uh I think Tabani and Milos are

both trying to uh gonna prove a point this year. 00:33:38.480 --> 00:33:40.000 I think you're gonna see a really good Tabani. 00:33:40.160 --> 00:33:41.359 Chris, what do you think? 00:33:42.319 --> 00:33:43.440 I don't know. 00:33:43.680 --> 00:33:49.279 Uh I I I mean he looked he looked pretty good in China, but like it wasn't anything like crazy. 00:33:49.759 --> 00:33:56.240 Yeah, no, but uh what that's what I'm trying to say is he had a very difficult time getting that visa to go to China. 00:33:56.480 --> 00:34:01.119 Now he's been in the States for the last two weeks with Milos, right? 00:34:01.519 --> 00:34:06.400 Yeah, maybe that'll make it like I just I I I he hasn't really been on my radar to be honest. 00:34:06.640 --> 00:34:12.960 I mean he's a great body, but I mean it's he has nothing to lose now, like just go for it, you know. 00:34:13.039 --> 00:34:16.639 Like he he he knows that he has to be conditioned, he's got very round muscles. 00:34:16.880 --> 00:34:19.440 Um, he's definitely not the biggest guy up there. 00:34:19.519 --> 00:34:23.760 He's got great delts and everything, great, you know, most muscular, very complete and everything. 00:34:23.920 --> 00:34:33.440 But I think when you're standing next to some of these guys who just have way less flaws and more size, it's very hard to get yourself up there. 00:34:33.599 --> 00:34:34.079 I don't know. 00:34:34.639 --> 00:34:36.559 But you never know. 00:34:37.039 --> 00:34:39.360 Matt, what do you think about Tabani in that situation? 00:34:39.599 --> 00:34:41.039 Yeah, I think Berous is a beast. 00:34:41.119 --> 00:34:42.239 I just don't think he's okay. 00:34:42.320 --> 00:34:44.480 Here's the thing he all these guys are good, man. 00:34:44.559 --> 00:34:47.599 All of all of these guys deserve to be there, the best Spider-Boos in the world. 00:34:47.679 --> 00:34:52.159 But if we're really nitpicking and we're talking about top 10, I think he could sneak in the top 10. 00:34:52.239 --> 00:34:58.880 I think if he's 100% nailed, but I I don't think he's gonna get more than like seventh or eighth, eighth max. 00:34:58.960 --> 00:35:04.320 You know, I just don't think so because like what Chris said, he's good, but he's not great and he's missing some legs, I think. 00:35:04.400 --> 00:35:07.280 If he filled out his legs a little bit more, I think he's also a little older. 00:35:07.360 --> 00:35:08.400 I mean, I'm not mistaken. 00:35:08.480 --> 00:35:10.079 I think he's I think he's a little bit older. 00:35:10.159 --> 00:35:15.280 So I don't know if he's gonna be able to fill out his legs enough to beat like Crizzo or beat like Tonyo, you know. 00:35:15.360 --> 00:35:17.519 I just I think he will be in that mix, though. 00:35:17.599 --> 00:35:18.960 He will be in that second call out. 00:35:19.440 --> 00:35:21.519 Um, I think Brandon's gonna be in that second call out. 00:35:21.760 --> 00:35:26.079 And here's the thing is they're not gonna not give Brandon and William the second

call out. 00:35:26.320 --> 00:35:30.000 I'm telling you right now, it doesn't matter how they look, they're just not gonna put in a Mr. 00:35:30.159 --> 00:35:31.280 Olympia out like that. 00:35:31.360 --> 00:35:34.239 And we kind of touched like on this in the last podcast with you guys. 00:35:34.480 --> 00:35:40.079 When was the last time you seen an Olympia champion competing as long as like after you've lost like a couple times? 00:35:40.239 --> 00:35:41.920 Usually usually when you lose they're out. 00:35:42.320 --> 00:35:45.039 Brandon just doesn't fucking stop like Dexter, you know? 00:35:45.280 --> 00:35:49.039 And Brandon, yeah, but here's the thing is Dexter was always in the top three, top four. 00:35:49.199 --> 00:35:56.000 Always, yeah, you know, and Brandon look Brandon looked great this year at um at the um Arnold UK. 00:35:56.159 --> 00:36:05.360 Yeah, he came in second to uh to to Andrew Jack, and that's when I completely embarrassed myself with Akeem Williams when you were there, Chris. 00:36:06.320 --> 00:36:07.519 Did you see that episode? 00:36:07.679 --> 00:36:08.320 Did you see that? 00:36:08.480 --> 00:36:09.199 Did you hear that? 00:36:09.920 --> 00:36:10.960 Oh my god, it was so funny. 00:36:11.039 --> 00:36:13.440 It's like, oh yeah, after these, everyone else looked like shit. 00:36:13.599 --> 00:36:15.039 He's like, I was in that show. 00:36:15.840 --> 00:36:16.960 No, yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:36:17.519 --> 00:36:20.079 Wait, so you were on with Akeem and Akeem was in that show? 00:36:20.159 --> 00:36:20.960 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:36:22.719 --> 00:36:26.559 Well, I I apologized to him like 10 times, even uh texted him and apologized to him. 00:36:26.719 --> 00:36:31.840 Because what happened was if you remember that show was Andrew Jack, Brandon, and Patrick Moore. 00:36:32.239 --> 00:36:34.719 And I said, after those three, we were talking about that show. 00:36:34.800 --> 00:36:37.840 I was like, after those three, the rest of the show was shit. 00:36:38.000 --> 00:36:38.559 Oh my god. 00:36:38.800 --> 00:36:43.280 And Akeem was like, you know, I was in that show and I was like, oh my fucking God. 00:36:43.440 --> 00:36:47.280 You know, I've been in I've been embarrassed to even ask him to come back. 00:36:47.679 --> 00:36:48.639 I believe it, man. 00:36:48.719 --> 00:36:49.199 I believe it. 00:36:49.280 --> 00:36:49.920 But listen to this. 00:36:50.000 --> 00:36:56.000 So I'm in I'm in I've been in that situation, but I'm a nationals and I'm sitting there and I'm watching Sebastian Chris when he did his first national show. 00:36:56.159 --> 00:37:00.400 And um, and I'm looking at this guy, and his coach is sitting behind me, and I'm like, dude, look at this agent. 00:37:00.480 --> 00:37:03.119 I'm like, he's got good legs, but like besides that, he's like, he's shit. 00:37:03.199 --> 00:37:04.320 Like he doesn't really have anything else. 00:37:04.480 --> 00:37:07.440 And I'm saying this out loud, and the coach is sitting right behind me. 00:37:07.679 --> 00:37:10.000 And he hits me, he's like, hey, that's an athlete. 00:37:10.079 --> 00:37:12.079 I'm like, oh man, I know this coach. 00:37:12.159 --> 00:37:14.000 And I'm like, dude, I'm like, he looks incredible. 00:37:14.159 --> 00:37:17.119 It's hard, man, because when we criticize like that, we don't mean it. 00:37:17.199 --> 00:37:18.880 We're just we're just fucking talking shit. 00:37:19.039 --> 00:37:19.760 We're just saying fun. 00:37:20.880 --> 00:37:22.960 We're just saying we're looking objectively, you know. 00:37:23.199 --> 00:37:35.440 Yeah, it's I've been I made sure to clip that and fucking put it on Instagram and TikTok and Facebook, and then I actually titled it uh open mouth insert foot. 00:37:35.599 --> 00:37:40.480 Uh you know, because and then I and I I've been embarrassed to ask Akeem to come back because of that. 00:37:40.559 --> 00:37:42.000 I was so fucked up. 00:37:42.239 --> 00:37:46.239 You know, uh look, you know, look, uh I'm gonna be a little honest here. 00:37:46.400 --> 00:37:48.480 I I've known Akeem for a very long time. 00:37:48.639 --> 00:37:49.920 He lives in Jersey. 00:37:50.159 --> 00:37:59.199 Um, he's a great guy, but there are certain bodybuilders that you know might need to look at themselves and go, you know, I've been competing for a long time. 00:37:59.599 --> 00:38:00.559 I won a lot of shows. 00:38:00.639 --> 00:38:02.159 I think he's won seven shows. 00:38:02.639 --> 00:38:05.119 I've been, you know, top ten in the Olympia. 00:38:05.920 --> 00:38:08.480 Maybe it's time to bow out gracefully. 00:38:09.199 --> 00:38:11.920 You know, I usually they don't know who they are, though. 00:38:12.159 --> 00:38:16.800 That's the thing is there some for some bodybuilders, man, there is no what's next for them. 00:38:17.039 --> 00:38:17.599 You know what I'm saying? 00:38:17.679 --> 00:38:22.480 Like it's hard to get back to normal society, it's hard to get back to because when you live, breed like Kai Green. 00:38:22.559 --> 00:38:27.440 I mean, I don't know how he did what he did because he's one of the most successful bodybuilders of all time, honestly. 00:38:27.679 --> 00:38:32.400 Um, and it's hard to make that that switch, and he's probably struggled with that, you know. 00:38:33.119 --> 00:38:40.639 Like you don't want to be Justin Rodriguez, you don't want to be the guy that's still competing and nobody's even talking about you. 00:38:40.880 --> 00:38:50.639 You know your stock is down when no when body when nobody's talking about when nobody is talking about you in bodybuilding and you're competing, your stock has dropped tremendously. 00:38:50.880 --> 00:38:54.480 And justin's talking about Brandon too, a little bit, you know. 00:38:54.719 --> 00:39:05.119 Well, well, Brandon was everybody was talking about Brandon during when he came in second to um in on in the Arnold UK, and then even in Pittsburgh, he had a good showing, and he only died it for like three

weeks or something like that. 00:39:05.199 --> 00:39:06.719 Like he just threw his hat in the ring in there. 00:39:07.280 --> 00:39:08.159 He looks good all year round. 00:39:08.239 --> 00:39:08.800 It's crazy. 00:39:08.960 --> 00:39:10.000 Yeah, yeah. 00:39:10.239 --> 00:39:13.440 But um, you know, I was gonna say that too. 00:39:13.519 --> 00:39:19.440 Like, you're you're talking about like the top ten, but like you're if you name off some names, you're already at like nine or ten now. 00:39:19.679 --> 00:39:20.719 Oh, yeah, we did this last time. 00:39:20.800 --> 00:39:21.360 Yeah, listen. 00:39:21.519 --> 00:39:24.239 You know, I've count them out, you're like, there's like no room. 00:39:24.639 --> 00:39:25.360 No, there really isn't. 00:39:25.599 --> 00:39:28.400 There's gonna be a lot of guys are going home disappointed. 00:39:28.639 --> 00:39:34.239 There's gonna be a lot of guys that first of all, there's gonna be first of all, if you're on the Olympia stage, you shouldn't be disappointed at all, right? 00:39:34.400 --> 00:39:45.519 Especially the guys that have finally made it, like the Mofut is and the um the fucking Russian dude and the Polish guy we were talking about before, they should be very happy that they're on stage. 00:39:45.679 --> 00:39:50.079 And they're they're and in they are incredible athletes and incredible bodybuilders. 00:39:50.159 --> 00:39:53.840 It's just that when you get to the Olympia, it's a different ball game, man. 00:39:53.920 --> 00:39:55.519 It's a totally different world. 00:39:55.679 --> 00:40:02.880 So, yeah, I mean, when you really break it down, you got, you know, if Hadi was in the show, you wouldn't have nobody would be breaking the top 10. 00:40:02.960 --> 00:40:14.400 Because when you really break it down, you got you got Derek, you got Nick, you got Andrew, you got Samson, you got uh Tonio, you got Martin, you got Chriso, you got Brandon, you got Bonack. 00:40:14.639 --> 00:40:21.920 And I don't want to get rid of Brandon and Bonack because they've been breaking the top 10 for the last decade, right? 00:40:22.400 --> 00:40:28.639 And so you got one guy left, and it's gonna be it's gonna be a battle. 00:40:28.719 --> 00:40:29.519 It really is, you know. 00:40:29.599 --> 00:40:32.000 It really people think bodybuilding is dead, and it's so stupid. 00:40:32.719 --> 00:40:33.599 I'm pull over that shit. 00:40:33.679 --> 00:40:34.639 It is not then like bro. 00:40:34.800 --> 00:40:40.239 Bodybuilding is not dead, and you look at the guys, yeah, you look at the guys who are quite like okay. 00:40:40.320 --> 00:40:48.480 So I'm just gonna Andrew, Andrea, uh Andrea Presti, uh Damian Cuffle, Mo Fuda, Sas Harati, Leandro Perez. 00:40:48.719 --> 00:40:49.360 I love Sas. 00:40:49.519 --> 00:40:51.280 He he's his conditioning's so awesome. 00:40:51.360 --> 00:40:52.159 Like, yeah, absolutely. 00:40:52.559 --> 00:40:54.000 I love him every single show. 00:40:54.239 --> 00:40:55.360 He just needs a break, bro. 00:40:55.440 --> 00:40:56.880 Like, God, that guy's a savage. 00:40:56.960 --> 00:40:58.559 I mean, how many shows has he done this year? 00:40:58.639 --> 00:40:59.360 Like 15? 00:40:59.599 --> 00:41:01.840 Yeah, he does not he does not stop. 00:41:02.000 --> 00:41:02.559 He doesn't stop. 00:41:03.760 --> 00:41:06.079 I think just gotta look at a guy like that genetically. 00:41:06.320 --> 00:41:08.400 He does not have to even try hard to get shredded. 00:41:08.480 --> 00:41:09.599 Like, yeah, I mean, I don't know. 00:41:09.760 --> 00:41:16.320 I haven't talked to him about it, but I'm just saying, like, you that's such a genetic gift to be able to even have those lines be that shredded. 00:41:16.400 --> 00:41:17.440 Yeah, Chris, do you remember? 00:41:19.039 --> 00:41:22.800 Do you guys remember when he first hit the stage like a few like it was like maybe five, six years ago? 00:41:22.880 --> 00:41:23.840 I don't know, maybe something like that. 00:41:24.000 --> 00:41:25.760 And he got second at like two shows. 00:41:25.920 --> 00:41:26.400 Remember that? 00:41:26.480 --> 00:41:28.079 He didn't qualify the Philimpia that year. 00:41:28.159 --> 00:41:32.239 When I seen him walk out for that, I was like, dude, this guy's gonna be something fucking crazy. 00:41:32.320 --> 00:41:33.840 Yeah, and I don't know what's happened to him since then. 00:41:33.920 --> 00:41:35.679 Obviously, I've been following his career the past couple years. 00:41:36.000 --> 00:41:42.559 I don't remember why he stopped competing, but he came back last year, and I became a huge fan of him last year because he did not quit. 00:41:42.719 --> 00:41:44.079 Yeah, you remember he didn't quit. 00:41:44.159 --> 00:41:45.599 Um, you guys kind of look like John. 00:41:46.400 --> 00:41:49.599 Say what same you guys kind of look alike, got the same haircut and everything. 00:41:49.760 --> 00:41:50.960 He is a very handsome guy. 00:41:51.119 --> 00:41:51.920 Thank you very much. 00:41:52.960 --> 00:41:58.320 So let's, you know, we're not even talking about um uh quit and a riah, right? 00:41:58.480 --> 00:41:59.440 He's another guy. 00:41:59.519 --> 00:42:08.480 Um Edward Carbo, Jordan Hutchinson, we got uh Beirus Tabani, James Hollings at Patrick Moore, Regan Grimes. 00:42:08.639 --> 00:42:12.559 Look, dude, this it's it's stacked, it's stacked. 00:42:12.639 --> 00:42:14.400 This year is let me ask you guys something. 00:42:14.480 --> 00:42:16.159 This is a fun question, okay? 00:42:16.480 --> 00:42:21.199 Let's just say Keon Pearson is like I'm jumping in the open. 00:42:21.599 --> 00:42:22.320 Where does he place? 00:42:22.719 --> 00:42:23.440 He gets crushed. 00:42:24.400 --> 00:42:25.519 I think it's uh sixth. 00:42:26.159 --> 00:42:28.719 Yeah, I I think he gets you think he gets crushed? 00:42:28.960 --> 00:42:30.000 I don't think he gets crushed. 00:42:30.159 --> 00:42:35.440 I think he's I think he's down at the end of the uh end of the eighth, ninth, tenth. 00:42:35.679

--> 00:42:39.119 I don't think he could beat Chriso or uh or Tonyo. 00:42:39.840 --> 00:42:42.480 Because we saw him, he tried doing the open last year, remember? 00:42:42.880 --> 00:42:44.079 Didn't Chris a beat him? 00:42:44.480 --> 00:42:44.880 Yeah. 00:42:45.199 --> 00:42:45.679 Did he? 00:42:45.920 --> 00:42:55.440 I'm pretty sure at the show that uh but he didn't not that he didn't do well, but he did do an open show last year after um after the Olympia. 00:42:55.519 --> 00:42:56.320 I don't remember what show it was. 00:42:56.400 --> 00:42:57.599 It might have been Prague, actually. 00:42:57.760 --> 00:43:00.079 Yeah, um wait, talking about fun stuff. 00:43:00.159 --> 00:43:05.280 I just want to bring this up because I know Matt does those strength, the squeeze testing on okay. 00:43:05.519 --> 00:43:09.840 So what's the average strength of like a strong guy, like 120 to 150? 00:43:10.239 --> 00:43:13.920 I think for somebody like us, we better be at like 140 minimum. 00:43:14.079 --> 00:43:15.920 All right, well explain what this is. 00:43:16.079 --> 00:43:17.679 Explain right now that I'm 200. 00:43:17.760 --> 00:43:19.599 I I got pretty strong forearms, okay? 00:43:19.760 --> 00:43:25.199 Wow, and uh and then Chris with like 220 or 240 or some shit. 00:43:25.440 --> 00:43:26.000 Is it good? 00:43:26.079 --> 00:43:26.480 Is good. 00:43:26.639 --> 00:43:27.440 Did you see him though? 00:43:27.519 --> 00:43:49.760 He was like this, he didn't even like try, he was just like explain what explain what this is because if I don't know what it is, then the majority of the audience publishes a little metal device and you squeeze it, you know, and most guys will stick their arms straight, or they'll they'll maybe bend their arm, but you really want to stick straight, and it tells you how many, uh, how much PSI, like pounds, square inch, yeah. 00:43:50.000 --> 00:43:50.159 Okay. 00:43:50.880 --> 00:43:56.960 So like the average gym goer is gonna be like 120 to 130, who's like a pretty strong looking guy, right? 00:43:57.119 --> 00:43:59.760 Good power lifters, maybe like 170, 180. 00:44:00.400 --> 00:44:04.239 I I get a pretty strong grip, so I got to 200, but it took me a couple tries. 00:44:04.320 --> 00:44:04.480 Yeah. 00:44:04.559 --> 00:44:08.000 And then he doesn't even try and he's like dude 20 or 230 is crazy. 00:44:08.159 --> 00:44:09.119 Yeah, those those eastern. 00:44:09.760 --> 00:44:10.800 So it looks just like this. 00:44:11.039 --> 00:44:12.000 Ah, okay. 00:44:12.480 --> 00:44:14.000 You just pull and then it has a number. 00:44:14.239 --> 00:44:14.800 Oh, okay. 00:44:14.880 --> 00:44:15.039 Okay. 00:44:15.199 --> 00:44:15.360 Yeah. 00:44:15.519 --> 00:44:20.559 That Eastern the Eastern European athletes, they're just fucking strong as hell. 00:44:20.800 --> 00:44:37.119 Those Ukrainian, Russian, you know, um, Chechnyan, those those, you know, those guys are just like, that's why they all they all come from either Eastern Europe or

they come from, you know, the Polish guys, or they or they come from like uh, you know, the Slavic countries, or they or they come from uh Greenland. 00:44:37.199 --> 00:44:40.000 They're all just fucking freaks, you know. 00:44:40.960 --> 00:44:42.000 I want to bring this up too. 00:44:42.079 --> 00:44:43.760 Um, have you guys seen the guy Piot? 00:44:44.079 --> 00:44:46.239 He's a Polish guy, he's a classic guy. 00:44:46.400 --> 00:44:48.239 Uh I seen a picture of it. 00:44:48.480 --> 00:44:53.679 His name is it's like Peter, but it's P I O T or P-I-O-T-R. 00:44:54.000 --> 00:44:55.119 Should we uh look him up? 00:44:55.280 --> 00:44:56.079 Yeah, look him up. 00:44:56.239 --> 00:44:58.239 It's it's just right, P-I-O-T. 00:44:59.840 --> 00:45:00.079 I don't know. 00:45:00.159 --> 00:45:09.440 I was I was uh surfing around on my on my uh I was surfing around on my uh on the web before you guys came up, so I don't know what's gonna oh shit. 00:45:10.000 --> 00:45:12.239 Yeah, that's what we're looking for right there. 00:45:13.199 --> 00:45:20.159 So this guy goes to the lair and he like walks around shredded and he's still like 20 pounds above stage weight. 00:45:20.800 --> 00:45:21.599 So what are you looking at? 00:45:21.679 --> 00:45:22.719 What are you looking at, bro? 00:45:22.800 --> 00:45:23.760 You want me to go back? 00:45:23.920 --> 00:45:25.280 Yeah, go back, please. 00:45:25.519 --> 00:45:28.400 Look like that lady had two of your bald heads on her chest. 00:45:28.559 --> 00:45:29.119 Yeah, exactly. 00:45:29.280 --> 00:45:30.320 What the hell was her name? 00:45:30.400 --> 00:45:31.679 I looked her up purposely. 00:45:32.239 --> 00:45:33.760 But look up P-I-O-T. 00:45:34.000 --> 00:45:34.559 There we go. 00:45:34.639 --> 00:45:36.000 Yeah, that's what we're looking at. 00:45:36.239 --> 00:45:36.719 There we go. 00:45:36.800 --> 00:45:36.960 All right. 00:45:37.119 --> 00:45:38.960 So now we're now we're talking about something way different. 00:45:39.199 --> 00:45:40.639 We're off bodybuilding for a second, folks. 00:45:42.639 --> 00:45:43.760 No, she was on my show. 00:45:43.840 --> 00:45:46.960 She's a she's uh she's uh she's an adult entertainer. 00:45:47.119 --> 00:45:49.280 She's actually on my show, my other channel twice. 00:45:49.519 --> 00:45:50.880 Oh no, yeah, it's huge. 00:45:51.039 --> 00:45:54.880 I do feel like anytime you see a woman with a bunch of makeup on, it's probably a dude, you know what I mean? 00:45:55.039 --> 00:45:58.719 Dude, it's so isn't that crazy that in 2026 we actually have to consider that, yeah. 00:45:59.199 --> 00:46:07.920 No, she's just she's just an uh an elderly uh adult entertainer who um has had a lot of work done, you know. 00:46:08.159 --> 00:46:10.639 Have you seen those videos, Matt, of the lady boys? 00:46:10.719 --> 00:46:13.360 And they're like, No, lady boy, and they to show their weird. 00:46:13.920 --> 00:46:15.679 No, no, I'm not saying that. 00:46:15.760 --> 00:46:17.119 Have you

seen the one that were like, Do you want to? 00:46:17.360 --> 00:46:18.559 It was like a hug or a kiss. 00:46:18.639 --> 00:46:19.599 This girl, the boy. 00:46:19.760 --> 00:46:22.960 Oh, yeah, looks like a girl, goes up to people and like, hey, do you want to hug or kiss? 00:46:23.039 --> 00:46:26.880 And like they always say kiss, and then they kiss, and he's like, Hey, and then she'll say something. 00:46:27.199 --> 00:46:28.480 Oh my god, it's funny. 00:46:28.639 --> 00:46:30.480 What's uh what's the guy's name, Chris? 00:46:30.800 --> 00:46:32.559 Type in P-I-O-T. 00:46:32.960 --> 00:46:34.000 Should come up. 00:46:35.360 --> 00:46:38.000 Uh this dude, yeah. 00:46:38.719 --> 00:46:42.960 So this guy's in classic, and I hope to god that he's look at this picture of him. 00:46:43.199 --> 00:46:45.280 Oh, yeah, he's like 20 years old, right? 00:46:45.679 --> 00:46:48.079 He looks like he's a freaking person, bro. 00:46:48.320 --> 00:46:49.119 How old is he? 00:46:49.199 --> 00:46:50.079 He's like 21, right? 00:46:50.239 --> 00:46:51.760 Have you seen 21? 00:46:51.840 --> 00:46:52.719 He's in his 20s, though. 00:46:53.039 --> 00:46:54.880 Jesus Christ, who is this guy? 00:46:55.199 --> 00:46:55.920 Exactly. 00:46:56.159 --> 00:47:00.000 He's going, he's he's a few weeks out from the Olympia and everything, and he goes to the lair. 00:47:00.079 --> 00:47:01.519 And I see him in person every day. 00:47:01.679 --> 00:47:05.119 Obviously, he's not quite, you know, he's not gonna be the size of open yet. 00:47:05.360 --> 00:47:06.639 Um god damn. 00:47:06.800 --> 00:47:11.760 I wish these guys would all just get bigger and go open because like come on, like they will hold himself back. 00:47:11.920 --> 00:47:13.199 He looks insane. 00:47:14.079 --> 00:47:15.280 Look at this picture uh down. 00:47:15.679 --> 00:47:17.119 Holy shit. 00:47:18.400 --> 00:47:19.519 You know what I think, man? 00:47:19.599 --> 00:47:22.320 I think in the next which one's such a gentleman. 00:47:22.559 --> 00:47:26.239 I think in the next five to six years, we're gonna see a lot of these classic guys switching over, dude. 00:47:26.400 --> 00:47:27.760 Yeah, it's gonna be really competitive. 00:47:28.000 --> 00:47:28.719 I think so too. 00:47:28.800 --> 00:47:30.320 This is uh I'm dropping down to classic. 00:47:30.400 --> 00:47:32.239 I'm gonna lose 100 pounds right now. 00:47:32.800 --> 00:47:34.639 Yeah, yeah, you would have to. 00:47:35.119 --> 00:47:36.960 I got the vacuum, so we're good to go. 00:47:37.119 --> 00:47:43.519 Yeah, if if I had if I they when I competed, they didn't have classic, otherwise I would have fucking did classic. 00:47:43.760 --> 00:47:45.519 Get rid of classic, make everyone be open. 00:47:45.840 --> 00:47:46.639 I'm an old bastard. 00:47:46.880 --> 00:47:47.840 Be a real man. 00:47:48.800 --> 00:47:57.519 Uh everyone talks about how unhealthy open is, but then like, okay, if you're like three percent body fat, 20 pounds over your stage weight,

and then you gotta kill yourself to get down. 00:47:57.599 --> 00:47:58.639 Like, how healthy is that? 00:47:58.800 --> 00:48:00.880 Like, I just I'm tired of hearing that shit. 00:48:01.119 --> 00:48:02.159 It's all unhealthy, you know. 00:48:02.239 --> 00:48:02.639 It really is. 00:48:02.800 --> 00:48:08.639 Like, well, you know, a lot of um don't tell me they don't have to do as much drugs, they're doing the same fucking amount of drugs. 00:48:08.880 --> 00:48:09.360 I know they are. 00:48:09.440 --> 00:48:10.159 I'm a coach. 00:48:10.800 --> 00:48:11.440 Exactly, yeah. 00:48:11.599 --> 00:48:12.880 So I don't want to hear this shit. 00:48:12.960 --> 00:48:16.079 Like, you know, you know, look, look, I I get it. 00:48:16.159 --> 00:48:28.960 There's a lot of stress on your heart and your organs and whatnot, but um, you know, it's uh I know that you take as long as you take morphogen supplements, code CMass, you'll be totally fine. 00:48:29.280 --> 00:48:30.480 Actually, don't listen to him. 00:48:30.559 --> 00:48:32.559 You gotta do code warrior actually for morphogen. 00:48:33.119 --> 00:48:35.840 No, you gotta go to code priest and go to Nutrafit. 00:48:36.079 --> 00:48:36.880 That's what you gotta do. 00:48:36.960 --> 00:48:38.159 You guys are bro. 00:48:38.400 --> 00:48:43.119 For some reason, I thought the morphogen stopped my like they give me a little a little package every month, right? 00:48:43.199 --> 00:48:44.719 That I'm allowed to use on their store, right? 00:48:44.800 --> 00:48:47.039 So I forgot obviously even getting one, bro. 00:48:47.119 --> 00:48:50.320 I just looked, I have like two grand worth of gift cards from them. 00:48:50.480 --> 00:48:55.760 And I think I think right now I got like 700 bucks because I was so snoped up from that's where I'm at. 00:48:55.840 --> 00:48:56.559 I don't even use it anymore. 00:48:56.639 --> 00:48:57.760 I have so much of that product. 00:48:57.840 --> 00:48:58.079 Really? 00:48:58.239 --> 00:49:01.519 I'm gonna go, I actually gotta place my order tonight because I I need a bunch of subs. 00:49:01.840 --> 00:49:13.360 It's funny that it's funny that you said that because I got a friend, I gave a friend of mine at work up uh pre-workout, because I have crucifix, I have two bottles of Kroba, um, and then uh uh same thing. 00:49:13.519 --> 00:49:19.119 They just, you know, I I they send me stuff all the time, but um the vintage muscle thing, same same shit. 00:49:19.199 --> 00:49:22.480 I got I I have like six of these fucking things, you know. 00:49:22.639 --> 00:49:31.280 So but um this stuff is actually really good for guys who uh especially guys like over 40 who don't want to use TRT. 00:49:31.360 --> 00:49:34.400 The vintage muscle is actually a really good uh option. 00:49:34.719 --> 00:49:35.199 Which is fine. 00:49:35.440 --> 00:49:37.119 Um, what the hell else do we have to talk about? 00:49:37.599 --> 00:49:39.679 I want to say this though, like it's just so funny. 00:49:39.760 -->

00:49:42.480 Like, you know, me and me and Matt have talked about this before. 00:49:42.639 --> 00:49:49.280 Like, you know, nowadays, well, it's weird, it's like hit or miss, but like it's like finally like bodybuilders are taking care of their health, some of them anyway. 00:49:49.360 --> 00:49:51.840 Yeah, they're like starting to give a shit, take supplements and everything. 00:49:51.920 --> 00:49:59.119 Like for the longest time, everyone's like, Oh no, I'm not gonna take supplements, and everyone took supplements, and it's like, oh no, I'm only gonna take peptides, not gonna take supplements. 00:49:59.920 --> 00:50:04.000 But you know, like if you know what you're doing, you're you're gonna take your health supplements. 00:50:04.079 --> 00:50:12.400 But one thing I want to say is this is my hot take, and people are gonna think I'm crazy for this, but I think one of the biggest gimmicks out there is gut health shit. 00:50:12.559 --> 00:50:27.679 Because if you just eat fucking healthy food and stop eating burgers and bullshit all on your diet and like junk food and fucking protein pancakes and protein this and all this bullshit that everyone's gonna make protein donuts and all if you stop eating that shit, you're not gonna have any gut health issues. 00:50:27.760 --> 00:50:34.400 And I have all you know, so many of my clients they come to me and they're like, Oh, you know, but I always get constipated, I always get this issue before the show, or all this stuff. 00:50:34.480 --> 00:50:36.000 I'm like, You're you're gonna be fine, trust me. 00:50:36.079 --> 00:50:37.119 Like, what are you gonna do for it? 00:50:37.199 --> 00:50:39.599 I'm like, nothing, you're just gonna eat fucking healthy food, right? 00:50:40.159 --> 00:50:41.360 It's gonna go down, and you're gonna be fine. 00:50:41.519 --> 00:50:43.280 You know, of course, I'm fine. 00:50:43.519 --> 00:50:46.719 I don't have to eat like 17 different kimchi and all this stuff. 00:50:46.960 --> 00:50:48.480 How do you feel about cleanses? 00:50:48.960 --> 00:50:51.039 Uh it's a load of bullshit. 00:50:51.119 --> 00:50:53.599 Every single liver cleanses and stomach cleanses. 00:50:53.920 --> 00:50:57.599 If someone do one of those teas or cleanses, they always get constipated afterwards, they're all fucked up. 00:50:57.679 --> 00:50:57.760 Really? 00:50:58.000 --> 00:50:59.280 Because you're washing out all the good stuff. 00:50:59.360 --> 00:51:01.280 Just just eat food, you'll be fine. 00:51:01.440 --> 00:51:04.559 Like, yeah, I'm not I am not a gut health coach, everyone. 00:51:04.639 --> 00:51:07.280 I am not that, but none of my clients have gut problems. 00:51:07.360 --> 00:51:11.280 I don't know what that means, but I just give them real food. 00:51:11.360 --> 00:51:11.599 That's it. 00:51:11.760 --> 00:51:25.360 No, Chris, I I have to agree with you because as I'm getting older, the uh um the more I go off my diet, and usually a lot of times I don't go off my diet, I just eat more, you know, the more my stomach gets uh distended. 00:51:25.519 --> 00:51:30.559 But then in you know the springtime or the summertime when I'm like, okay, I gotta get back in shape. 00:51:30.719 --> 00:51:34.800 When I clean up my diet and it's really like it goes right back down. 00:51:35.199 --> 00:51:41.440 Not like it was when I, you know, when I was competing 10 or 15 years ago, but it goes right back down. 00:51:41.519 --> 00:51:43.760 I have abs, my my stomach is flat. 00:51:44.000 --> 00:51:46.719 So yeah, I have a week in Mexico eating. 00:51:46.880 --> 00:51:49.199 I mean, they say the food America is bad. 00:51:49.280 --> 00:51:50.320 I I mean maybe it is. 00:51:50.480 --> 00:51:56.239 I just spent a week in Mexico drinking and eating tacos and all this shit, and I didn't gain a fucking pound. 00:51:56.400 --> 00:51:57.039 I was fine. 00:51:57.199 --> 00:51:59.440 I barely even worked out, worked out 20 minutes a day. 00:51:59.599 --> 00:52:02.559 Um it was those Mexican mojitos, they really cleansed me out. 00:52:02.639 --> 00:52:03.440 I was doing fine. 00:52:03.519 --> 00:52:06.559 Yeah, those are the only liver cleanse you gotta do. 00:52:06.800 --> 00:52:07.119 Yes. 00:52:07.360 --> 00:52:07.760 Mexico. 00:52:09.039 --> 00:52:12.800 If you eat healthy all the time, you eat a little bit bad, you you know, you don't want to be. 00:52:12.880 --> 00:52:20.000 I I tell people this you don't want to be like a Formula One car that if you do the slightest wrong thing, you just explode and you die. 00:52:20.159 --> 00:52:21.840 You know, you want to be like a trophy truck. 00:52:21.920 --> 00:52:31.199 If you if you're gonna be able to take a little, you know, eat a little bit off plan, or if I'm gonna give someone maybe a burger or something like that, and you go back on plan, you should be fine. 00:52:31.280 --> 00:52:33.599 You should be able to veer off right here and then come right back. 00:52:33.679 --> 00:52:39.199 But if you're constantly doing everything, taking every gut health supplement you possibly can, you're just making yourself weak. 00:52:39.440 --> 00:52:44.320 You know, that's why I say when women do too much stuff for their skin, they're gonna get more pimples. 00:52:44.559 --> 00:52:55.519 Um, Chris is now a married man, and that's why he hasn't been on the show in a while because he was in Mexico getting married and did a uh honeymoon at the same time. 00:52:55.679 --> 00:52:58.400 And it looks like you had a really good, uh, a really good time. 00:52:58.480 --> 00:53:00.400 I was checking out the pictures on Instagram. 00:53:00.639 --> 00:53:01.840 Congratulations, by the way. 00:53:02.320 --> 00:53:03.360 Where was that, Chris? 00:53:03.840 --> 00:53:04.480 What's that? 00:53:04.639 --> 00:53:05.280 When was that? 00:53:05.440 --> 00:53:06.239 Well, you weren't invited. 00:53:06.320 --> 00:53:06.480 Stop. 00:53:06.800 --> 00:53:07.519 I'm married on the third. 00:53:07.760 --> 00:53:09.360 Nobody oh wow, damn.

00:53:09.519 --> 00:53:10.559 Okay, congrats, man. 00:53:10.639 --> 00:53:11.360 I did not know that. 00:53:11.519 --> 00:53:12.719 Wow, congrats, yeah, dude. 00:53:12.880 --> 00:53:14.079 Chris really doesn't like you that much. 00:53:14.159 --> 00:53:15.519 He didn't out of the loop, bro. 00:53:15.599 --> 00:53:17.039 I didn't get text, nothing, man. 00:53:17.440 --> 00:53:18.559 You're coming to the Olympia, right? 00:53:18.800 --> 00:53:19.679 Even I was invited. 00:53:20.000 --> 00:53:21.840 I was like, I was like, Chris, I can't come. 00:53:21.920 --> 00:53:23.280 I don't want to do that to Matt, you know. 00:53:23.440 --> 00:53:24.320 Yeah, no, I'm gonna see. 00:53:24.400 --> 00:53:27.519 Hey, you know, bro, get ready because you're gonna be doing this and you're gonna be in a video, buddy. 00:53:27.599 --> 00:53:28.559 You're going viral. 00:53:28.719 --> 00:53:29.440 So you're ready. 00:53:29.519 --> 00:53:30.880 You you think you're 200, man? 00:53:30.960 --> 00:53:31.760 We're gonna find out, okay? 00:53:31.840 --> 00:53:32.159 Let's see. 00:53:32.719 --> 00:53:40.480 Hey, so I did it on uh my old chiropractor, he was legitimately one of the strongest people I've ever met, and he was a big big time power lifter. 00:53:40.639 --> 00:53:47.280 He walks around like 300 pounds and he got to the limit, and he was above 200 pounds, and it took me like three tries, but I got it to 200. 00:53:47.360 --> 00:53:49.440 He had the metal one with all whatever it is. 00:53:49.599 --> 00:53:50.639 Was it black or was it so? 00:53:50.960 --> 00:53:52.400 He's like, Yeah, it's not even strong enough for me. 00:53:52.480 --> 00:53:53.360 I'm like, dude, what the hell? 00:53:53.440 --> 00:53:53.760 Was that black? 00:53:54.159 --> 00:53:55.599 That was 900 pounds with no straps. 00:53:55.679 --> 00:53:56.480 I'm like, what the fuck? 00:53:56.639 --> 00:54:00.960 Do you ever see the chiropractor on Instagram that only adjusts girls with giant tits? 00:54:02.239 --> 00:54:04.400 I swear to God, I'm not kidding. 00:54:04.559 --> 00:54:07.280 It comes up on my feet all the time for some strange reason. 00:54:07.360 --> 00:54:07.760 I can't. 00:54:08.559 --> 00:54:14.639 Andrea sent me a video of this guy who's doing like massages, but like he's like rubbing up when these girls' crotches and everything. 00:54:14.800 --> 00:54:17.199 I'm like, Yeah, if you ever went to this, I'd just murder the guys. 00:54:17.360 --> 00:54:19.039 Yeah, I would just got to not go there. 00:54:19.119 --> 00:54:21.679 Yeah, give me a table, I'll do a better job, trust me. 00:54:21.760 --> 00:54:23.039 So let's see my polices. 00:54:23.360 --> 00:54:25.599 So you're going to be at the Olympia, right, Chris? 00:54:25.840 --> 00:54:26.239 Yes. 00:54:26.400 --> 00:54:29.519 I my wife just randomly bought tickets a couple days ago. 00:54:30.000 --> 00:54:33.199 We weren't gonna go, we're just gonna do a watch party at my house, but then she's like, No, fuck it. 00:54:33.280 --> 00:54:34.960 We're you're a professional, you gotta be there. 00:54:35.119 --> 00:54:35.679 Uh, very nice. 00:54:35.760 --> 00:54:37.519 That's like that was actually a very good gift for her. 00:54:37.760 --> 00:54:43.440 Um, because I am I am gonna be live for both the uh pre-judging and the finals. 00:54:43.840 --> 00:54:45.760 I'll pull my phone out and bring me on. 00:54:46.079 --> 00:54:49.199 Give me the link and I'll I'll I'll I'll do it from my phone. 00:54:49.440 --> 00:54:50.639 All right, cool. 00:54:51.039 --> 00:54:52.719 And I'm inviting everybody. 00:54:52.880 --> 00:54:55.360 And if you can only come on for fucking 20 minutes, it's fine. 00:54:55.440 --> 00:54:56.960 If you want to stay for the whole thing, it's fine. 00:54:57.039 --> 00:54:58.079 I really don't care. 00:54:58.320 --> 00:55:00.320 Any everybody's invited. 00:55:00.639 --> 00:55:12.960 And now, of uh, before we got started, Chris, I was saying that I actually have a website now, so you can go and get your uh series and tell us bodybuilding foot fetish, what foot pictures is that where I can get my foot pictures on multiple. 00:55:14.559 --> 00:55:15.840 Do you know what foot pictures are? 00:55:17.280 --> 00:55:20.719 Foot pictures are the equivalent to Maxim Magazine. 00:55:21.679 --> 00:55:23.519 I do dick pics, bro. 00:55:23.840 --> 00:55:25.280 Yeah, you're not fucking around. 00:55:26.719 --> 00:55:40.800 No, but uh so you can get all your power, your uh shirts and uh merch and mugs and shaker cups, and also I started a Patreon so you could see uh all footage that you're not gonna be able to see on YouTube. 00:55:41.119 --> 00:55:45.440 It is ten dollars a month, and all the links are in the description below. 00:55:45.920 --> 00:55:50.000 So, Chris, what do you you what are you doing with yourself and what are you gonna plug now? 00:55:51.599 --> 00:55:53.280 All right, I'm gonna plug a few different things. 00:55:53.519 --> 00:55:53.920 Go ahead. 00:55:54.079 --> 00:55:58.480 Number one, Yankees are going to the postseason, they just locked it in. 00:55:58.639 --> 00:55:59.840 Giants won, Jets won. 00:55:59.920 --> 00:56:01.199 New York is in a good spot right now. 00:56:01.280 --> 00:56:02.480 So I gotta plug some other sports. 00:56:02.719 --> 00:56:05.920 Okay, it's gonna be it's good good week for good week for New York. 00:56:06.000 --> 00:56:11.119 But other than that, um, yeah, morphogen supplements, use code CMass or of course warrior. 00:56:11.280 --> 00:56:17.199 Um, and then obviously I got my in my uh YouTube as well, Anabolic Mafia, which Matt has been on. 00:56:17.440 --> 00:56:18.400 I gotta bring you on, John. 00:56:18.559 --> 00:56:19.519 We'll have a fun show. 00:56:19.679 --> 00:56:20.239 Yes, please. 00:56:20.400 --> 00:56:23.920 Um, and obviously Instagram iP Pro Christmas sorrow. 00:56:24.000 --> 00:56:25.039 Easy to find. 00:56:25.280 --> 00:56:26.400 And go ahead, Matt. 00:56:26.480 --> 00:56:27.440 One more time. 00:56:28.159 --> 00:56:28.800 All right, man. 00:56:28.960 --> 00:56:31.119 Yeah, so um I actually own coastal compounds. 00:56:31.199 --> 00:56:34.239 I don't know if you guys talk about peptides at all, but hit me up on there, guys. 00:56:34.320 --> 00:56:35.679 Hit shoot me a message directly. 00:56:35.760 --> 00:56:37.760 I'll love to help you guys out if you don't know about it. 00:56:37.840 --> 00:56:38.159 Whatever. 00:56:38.320 --> 00:56:38.800 Hit me up. 00:56:38.880 --> 00:56:40.159 Um, I coach full time. 00:56:40.239 --> 00:56:42.320 So if you guys ever are looking for coaching, let me know. 00:56:42.480 --> 00:56:45.440 Besides that, man, hey, morphogen supplements, code again. 00:56:45.599 --> 00:56:46.800 What's your what's your code, Chris? 00:56:46.960 --> 00:56:47.440 C Mass? 00:56:47.679 --> 00:56:48.159 CMAS. 00:56:48.480 --> 00:56:48.880 There you go. 00:56:49.039 --> 00:56:49.760 More warrior. 00:56:49.920 --> 00:56:52.480 Either one, because we love uh morphogen and they take care of us. 00:56:52.559 --> 00:56:53.360 So that's all we got. 00:56:53.519 --> 00:56:56.559 Hey, I want I want everyone to know that I taught Matt everything he knows. 00:56:56.880 --> 00:57:05.679 Listen, I want to let all y'all know that I actually taught Chris everything he knew back in the day because he trained like a bitch before he came with me. 00:57:05.920 --> 00:57:06.239 Okay. 00:57:07.280 --> 00:57:08.320 All right, gentlemen. 00:57:08.400 --> 00:57:10.639 Listen, thank you very much, both of you guys, for coming on. 00:57:10.719 --> 00:57:11.840 I really appreciate it. 00:57:12.079 --> 00:57:15.280 Um, I will be in touch with you guys uh soon, like I am always. 00:57:15.440 --> 00:57:17.280 So uh much love and respect to both of you. 00:57:17.360 --> 00:57:18.480 And Chris, congratulations. 00:57:18.559 --> 00:57:24.559 Tell your wife I said, congratulations, and uh give give Dixie a treat for me, uh Matt. 00:57:24.800 --> 00:57:25.280 We will do. 00:57:26.000 --> 00:57:28.000 And uh I will talk to you guys soon. 00:57:28.159 --> 00:57:28.639 Later. 00:57:28.800 --> 00:57:29.039 Yep. 00:57:29.199 --> 00:57:29.760 Later, guys. 00:57:30.000 --> 00:57:30.480 Later, bro.