Full Transcript for Black and White

like, Yeah, they're shooting down at the wall. 00:03:44.800 --> 00:03:46.719 And it's just like he's like, who are they shooting? 00:03:46.879 --> 00:03:48.080 And it's like, no, no, no, no. 00:03:48.240 --> 00:03:52.719 It's like they're shooting like a film, and it's like he goes down there and he recognizes uh crazy. 00:03:52.960 --> 00:03:56.159 Like uh he recognizes that director, uh what is his name? 00:03:56.319 --> 00:03:58.000 Um Brett Ratner. 00:03:58.240 --> 00:04:02.639 Okay, he recognizes Brett Ratner because Brett Ratner had already directed a couple of their videos. 00:04:02.719 --> 00:04:02.879 Okay. 00:04:03.039 --> 00:04:07.199 But during that talk where he's like, you know, talking about it's like you need me for four days. 00:04:07.680 --> 00:04:11.039 I'm from Miami, but you you know, I'll make it Hollywood, I'll make you Hollywood. 00:04:11.840 --> 00:04:15.360 So a big thing about this movie is like there are a bunch of cancelled people in this movie. 00:04:15.520 --> 00:04:18.639 That is and so like Brett Ratner, super canceled. 00:04:18.879 --> 00:04:19.279 Damn. 00:04:19.519 --> 00:04:23.759 And here's the thing, it's like um in 2017, he was super meatooed. 00:04:24.000 --> 00:04:34.000 Like there were so many women that would just like it, it's like every star from his movies, like uh he would just threaten to get rid of them and uh like uh uh unless they were to you know cooperate. 00:04:34.240 --> 00:04:34.800 That is wow. 00:04:35.040 --> 00:04:39.680 And so I'm imagining that same talk they just gave me, it's like you need me because I can give you the sex factor. 00:04:39.839 --> 00:04:44.319 And it's like that's the same thing he would do to like just coerce women into bed. 00:04:44.480 --> 00:04:45.360 So he's a monster. 00:04:45.600 --> 00:04:53.360 Fun fact uh, you know, I work in hip hop and stuff like that, and we've had Method Man teach at my rap school. 00:04:53.759 --> 00:04:58.240 So we sat in class with Method Man online, and uh that was really interesting. 00:04:58.319 --> 00:05:00.399 We've had uh Was he wearing a bucket hat? 00:05:00.560 --> 00:05:01.600 He was not wearing a bucket hat. 00:05:02.319 --> 00:05:03.759 He's the only one who can really pull it off. 00:05:04.000 --> 00:05:07.199 Everyone keeps trying to do it, everyone keeps trying to do radicals again, yeah. 00:05:07.279 --> 00:05:09.759 And it's like, no, Method Man always had that and it worked. 00:05:09.839 --> 00:05:14.720 Uh we also had Inspector Deck at the class when he was here in the film. 00:05:15.199 --> 00:05:23.360 It okay, so we're we're uh we're talking about the the just the the shit, we're talking about the members of the Wu Tang clan that are in this movie. 00:05:23.519 --> 00:05:23.680 Yeah. 00:05:23.839 --> 00:05:26.399 Have you thought why is the RISA not in this movie? 00:05:26.639 --> 00:05:27.680 That is a good question. 00:05:28.160 --> 00:05:28.879 That is a good question. 00:05:29.360 --> 00:05:30.959 He has a career in film now, right? 00:05:31.040 --> 00:05:31.199 Right? 00:05:31.360 --> 00:05:31.920 Yeah, yeah. 00:05:32.000 --> 00:05:33.680 That's that is a good question. 00:05:33.920 --> 00:05:35.759 Uh who know, he might have been traveling or something. 00:05:36.000 --> 00:05:36.319 Well too. 00:05:36.560 --> 00:05:36.879 Who knows? 00:05:37.120 --> 00:05:39.600 I I I I asked that question, it's a little loaded, alright? 00:05:39.680 --> 00:05:43.759 The reason he's not in this movie is the probably the reason that it exists. 00:05:44.160 --> 00:05:44.480 Okay. 00:05:44.800 --> 00:05:45.839 And uh hear me out. 00:05:45.920 --> 00:05:50.639 Um, so um in the end of 1998, he puts out Bobby Digital in stereo. 00:05:50.800 --> 00:05:50.959 Right. 00:05:51.120 --> 00:05:52.319 And so he'd been working on that. 00:05:52.399 --> 00:05:55.519 He'd been working on actually like playing instruments instead of sampling and stuff. 00:05:55.600 --> 00:05:55.759 Uh-huh. 00:05:55.839 --> 00:05:59.199 And Raekwon right now is recording his second solo album. 00:05:59.360 --> 00:05:59.600 Right. 00:05:59.759 --> 00:06:00.000 Right. 00:06:00.079 --> 00:06:02.800 And none of it has any production by the RISA. 00:06:03.120 --> 00:06:03.279 Okay. 00:06:03.439 --> 00:06:05.040 And the first album was all by the RISA. 00:06:05.439 --> 00:06:12.480 And so now I'm thinking about that first album, it also was like chapters or like um uh scenes in a movie. 00:06:12.720 --> 00:06:13.600 It was cinematic. 00:06:13.759 --> 00:06:14.000 Right. 00:06:14.160 --> 00:06:19.199 And Jim Jarmish, who's uh you know, like a great director, he's what do you call it, working on a script. 00:06:19.279 --> 00:06:25.920 It's got Forrest uh Whitaker, and it's gonna be Ghost Dog, Way at the Samurai, and he's listening to a lot of Wu-Tang because he's getting inspired by it. 00:06:26.079 --> 00:06:29.199 And he goes and asks the Riza, hey, would you like to make a soundtrack for me? 00:06:29.439 --> 00:06:29.680 Yes. 00:06:29.920 --> 00:06:31.279 And so he's doing that. 00:06:31.360 --> 00:06:36.079 And imagine if you're Rae Kwan and you're just like Which is a phenomenal soundtrack, by the way. 00:06:36.319 --> 00:06:38.560 Yes, it's Ghost Dog, right? 00:06:38.800 --> 00:06:42.240 Yes, it's it's it's an amazing soundtrack, and there's hey shit. 00:06:42.319 --> 00:06:43.839 I did a lot of research on that too. 00:06:43.920 --> 00:06:44.000 Yeah. 00:06:44.160 --> 00:06:47.680 But uh shit, man, even like his Blade Trinity soundtrack is crazy. 00:06:47.759 --> 00:06:58.959 It's like that movie sucks, but it's like it rocks, you know, and so it's like I don't know, you're just being a bombarded with like, man, this is it's like it's really a beaten killer, and it's like, you know, just uh I don't know, Wesley Snipes can do no wrong. 00:06:59.120 --> 00:07:07.439 Yeah but uh like so now I'm thinking about it, your your your Raekwon, uh the reason is not helping you on your next album, and now he's

like, I'm doing movies. 00:07:07.600 --> 00:07:09.839 You gotta be like, oh shit, I should be doing movies. 00:07:10.000 --> 00:07:10.160 Right. 00:07:10.319 --> 00:07:14.800 You know, it's like and everyone in Wu Tang right now, they're diversifying. 00:07:14.959 --> 00:07:20.720 So um, like um uh in October of uh 99, there's the uh the PS1 game. 00:07:21.839 --> 00:07:24.399 Yes, trying to think what it's called, but I remember playing it. 00:07:24.480 --> 00:07:27.279 Um, it will be rectified shortly. 00:07:27.600 --> 00:07:33.920 There is another powerful discipline, that of Wu Tang, the sole master of his ancient art, is a sin. 00:07:34.560 --> 00:07:38.319 But now I have found my old friend once again, hiding like a skin. 00:07:38.800 --> 00:07:42.639 Wu Tang uh um Way of Shaolin or something. 00:07:42.879 --> 00:07:43.279 Okay, okay. 00:07:43.519 --> 00:07:53.759 And uh um like uh just uh during the time everyone's uh doing something else, and so Power, uh who like really not not even Rest in peace, by the way, but it's recently passed away. 00:07:54.000 --> 00:07:54.240 Really? 00:07:54.319 --> 00:07:54.720 Oh man. 00:07:55.040 --> 00:07:59.439 Yeah, power passed away, man, the uh just a few months ago, actually. 00:07:59.600 --> 00:08:10.240 Yeah, okay, real bummer because now what I'm thinking about saying is um he um gets the uh the the rights to put Wu-Tang into like clothing, right? 00:08:10.399 --> 00:08:13.120 And so he he's like woo wear is a big part of it. 00:08:13.199 --> 00:08:16.319 Like um yeah they're they're getting like deals to like be in Macy's and stuff. 00:08:16.959 --> 00:08:19.120 And with that, I used to sell woo-ware. 00:08:19.199 --> 00:08:19.439 What? 00:08:19.600 --> 00:08:21.360 Yeah, I used to sell woo-ware for sure. 00:08:21.600 --> 00:08:22.879 Okay, you're dating yourself a little bit. 00:08:23.040 --> 00:08:24.639 Yeah, I swear to God, you know. 00:08:24.800 --> 00:08:27.199 I used to sell woo-ware at the mall, bro. 00:08:27.360 --> 00:08:27.680 Yeah. 00:08:28.079 --> 00:08:33.200 Because he makes all of those uh like like business uh connections when he's he's doing that. 00:08:33.440 --> 00:08:37.919 They start introducing him to directors, and he meets this dude named James Tobak who makes this movie. 00:08:38.080 --> 00:08:38.399 Wow. 00:08:38.639 --> 00:08:43.679 And so I'm guessing Powers like going to Requa and it's like, dude, I gotta see a director, let's make a movie. 00:08:44.399 --> 00:08:46.639 They don't even have to have a script or anything like that. 00:08:46.799 --> 00:08:50.399 It just it it uh it also, you guys, I like the way you guys dress. 00:08:50.480 --> 00:08:51.679 Why don't you dress the way you are? 00:08:51.759 --> 00:08:56.720 It's like this this movie, it it it's super simple for for a guy to make, plus he had the access to them. 00:08:56.960 --> 00:09:01.519 Right, and like uh just that we we discussed, it looks horrible. 00:09:01.679 --> 00:09:05.200 Like uh just uh like

visually, it does not look uh like well made. 00:09:05.279 --> 00:09:10.320 But uh like uh to pull this off, especially when you probably only had to shoot for less than three weeks. 00:09:10.480 --> 00:09:24.399 Yeah, it's like uh you could brag about everyone who's in this movie because he picked, I'd say like people that will have careers, and also people just like we can just talk about it, but like uh some of the celebrities in this, they will, you know, just they'll have staying power. 00:09:24.559 --> 00:09:24.960 Yeah. 00:09:25.360 --> 00:09:28.080 And like this movie has three Academy Award winners in it. 00:09:28.240 --> 00:09:31.840 It's such a random mix of actors and just people in general. 00:09:32.000 --> 00:09:39.759 Like to have Raquan in the same movie as Elijah Wood! Like, how random, you know? 00:09:40.080 --> 00:09:41.440 How random is that? 00:09:41.600 --> 00:09:44.240 And then uh who is this uh what was it? 00:09:44.320 --> 00:09:45.600 The uh Brooke Shields? 00:09:45.679 --> 00:09:50.240 It's Brooke Shields uh wearing like these the rattiest dreads. 00:09:50.480 --> 00:09:58.799 With dreads, and and she's she's walking around with a little camera, and like every time they cut to her footage, you're like, oh, you could never use that in a fucking documentary. 00:09:59.279 --> 00:10:03.440 Why is she even shooting a documentary like that didn't go anywhere, really? 00:10:03.759 --> 00:10:18.720 And and so for for him, uh for her and Robert Down Jr., it does seem like they exist to shoehorn this idea that uh, you know, uh like white people are consuming hip-hop and like uh it it's it's such a different message that we kind of currently have. 00:10:19.039 --> 00:10:26.159 Because like uh over the past decade, it's really been that white people are stealing, you know, uh culture and you know tradition. 00:10:26.320 --> 00:10:30.799 And whereas before it it was black people are corrupting the white people with their hippety hop music. 00:10:30.960 --> 00:10:31.200 That's right. 00:10:31.360 --> 00:10:38.799 And uh, you know, just uh it it it it it's changed so much, and maybe actually we're changing back radically where it's just you know diversity's a bad thing. 00:10:39.120 --> 00:11:02.159 You know, I well who knows, man, but you know, but white folks, young white suburban kids are the biggest consumers of hip hop music and purchasers of hip-hop music, you know, and like if you go to like um you know, I've been to a bunch of Wu-Tang shows and stuff like that, and they have a bunch of white fans, man. 00:11:02.240 --> 00:11:12.159 You know, they have everyone loves the Wu, but um white folks are notoriously some of the biggest financial supporters of rap music, you know. 00:11:12.559 --> 00:11:19.360 And and uh here's the thing, also if the Rizer were in this, he'd be kind of like put coming this message, it's like, who do you think buys our records is making us rich? 00:11:19.519 --> 00:11:22.159 All right, it's like we're mainstream now, we're in a video game, man. 00:11:22.240 --> 00:11:22.480 Yeah, yeah. 00:11:22.639 --> 00:11:25.679 It's like you think a lot of you know, just uh kids in the hood got PlayStations, yeah. 00:11:25.840 --> 00:11:29.039 All right, it's like we are doing this to you know to make money off of these people. 00:11:29.200 --> 00:11:33.120 They're they're buying it good, you know, and like uh also we're Wu Tang. 00:11:33.279 --> 00:11:36.559 It's like we're inspired by just uh like Kung Fu movies. 00:11:36.639 --> 00:11:52.559 Yeah, and it I I always do kind of think the reason probably they have such a uh I not as a white following, is they were also very relatable in that like uh really I especially especially for the resident, it's like man, he's the nerdiest dude, who's the coolest guy, right? 00:11:52.720 --> 00:12:08.960 Like, you know, just he he like you know absorbs other cultures, but also just uh like I I would say it's like uh as soon as they renamed themselves and they found like you know, just uh like I don't know their their clan, but their little tribe, it's like it gave them identity and like you know, so like that gave them power. 00:12:09.120 --> 00:12:12.480 Before that, they were just you know being bullied around the neighborhood and stuff, you know. 00:12:12.559 --> 00:12:21.519 And actually, so Raekwon and Ghostface are the only two people I would say in the group that would uh I don't know, scare me a little bit, you know, because of like you know, because of their affiliations. 00:12:21.679 --> 00:12:24.960 The rest of them, I gotta say, it's like you know, they were they were a bunch of nerds to me. 00:12:25.120 --> 00:12:25.519 Right, right. 00:12:26.080 --> 00:12:26.559 Yeah, that's right. 00:12:26.639 --> 00:12:29.039 Ghostface did make a little cameo in the film too. 00:12:30.080 --> 00:12:33.200 And then you hear one of the kids say, Oh, is that Ghostface killer? 00:12:34.480 --> 00:12:36.879 Okay, right now we're kind of noticing the skyline. 00:12:36.960 --> 00:12:38.559 Yeah, you you kind of saw it. 00:12:38.639 --> 00:12:45.679 It's like uh they didn't know that uh the Twin Towers were gonna be good dropping in two years, so like you don't even like uh like drop like focus on any of them. 00:12:45.840 --> 00:12:48.480 Yeah, like this movie is true, and also like I said, 25 years. 00:12:48.559 --> 00:12:52.000 No one tried to reclaim this movie as like, oh, we didn't know how good we had it. 00:12:52.159 --> 00:12:56.879 This movie's just yeah, no one I have not heard anyone talk about this movie at all. 00:12:57.039 --> 00:13:00.159 You know, it's uh it's a conundrum, you know. 00:13:00.240 --> 00:13:14.159 This this film, I feel like there are some nuances that they were starting to scratch the surface of, but it's almost like there was so much going on, they didn't have a real chance to get deep enough into some things. 00:13:14.240 --> 00:13:30.000 Like the concept of like these white kids wanting to

like be black or be a part of black culture, and and they were, you know, the girl was like trying to speak like Ebonic, so to speak, or you know, um, she was like, I was at the library, like to her dad, you know what I'm saying? 00:13:30.159 --> 00:13:40.000 While they're eating quail, you know, she's like, I was at the library, and like with her gold tooth in her front, and like it's like wow, this is this is really interesting. 00:13:40.159 --> 00:13:48.240 And I thought that that part of it, this this like exploration of white kids wanting to be black, was pretty interesting. 00:13:48.399 --> 00:14:02.080 But then at the same time, when you hear Rae Kwan practicing his lyrics, it was about like the lyrics were about like really him trying to get out of the hood and get his life right, so to speak, right? 00:14:02.240 --> 00:14:15.360 So you have that juxtaposition of the white kids kind of glorifying hood culture, quote unquote, and then the people from the hood, you know, speaking on like you know I'm saying trying to get out and shit, you know? 00:14:15.600 --> 00:14:19.840 So I I wish they would have explored that a little bit further. 00:14:20.080 --> 00:14:24.320 Um, and I like I was like, yo, they're on, they're kind of onto something right now, you know? 00:14:24.559 --> 00:14:36.559 But then it just took a turn with like now there's you know, this guy has to throw the basketball game, and then this lady with her random documentary, and then Ben Stiller's uh trying to get out of his trouble. 00:14:36.639 --> 00:14:39.360 Like that was all of that was pretty wild, but yeah. 00:14:39.679 --> 00:14:44.399 I think you kind of said it's like if they had picked one, if they had picked one thing to pursue, yeah. 00:14:46.080 --> 00:14:50.080 But because there's too much shit going on, you but it's like neither of them have a message. 00:14:50.159 --> 00:14:55.919 It's also strange how all these people in a giant city can run into each other, yeah, for sure. 00:14:56.159 --> 00:14:59.679 Like it just uh d get rid of like the class discrepancy. 00:14:59.759 --> 00:15:05.519 It's like it's it it's it's weirder that like you know when they go to the party, it's like, oh my god, every person I've met in this movie is here. 00:15:05.759 --> 00:15:07.360 Yeah, and is that Mike Tyson? 00:15:07.519 --> 00:15:09.039 Yeah, Mike Tyson. 00:15:10.240 --> 00:15:15.039 Randomly, and he's just looking out the window like I'm having a peaceful moment here, you know. 00:15:15.120 --> 00:15:16.240 Like, leave me alone. 00:15:16.480 --> 00:15:20.080 And then the dude's husband, uh, what is it, home uh homegirl's husband. 00:15:20.240 --> 00:15:21.200 Yeah, Robert Downey Jr. 00:15:21.519 --> 00:15:22.559 Robert Downey Jr. 00:15:22.720 --> 00:15:25.200 is hitting on Mike Tyson, which is crazy. 00:15:25.440 --> 00:15:27.039 Okay, let's let's go in that order. 00:15:27.200 --> 00:15:35.039 Robert Downey Jr., um, this year, 1999, uh later on the year, he gets arrested

for violating probation, and that leads to him cleaning up. 00:15:35.200 --> 00:15:38.480 So Tony Stark and everything, it comes because of this year. 00:15:38.799 --> 00:15:40.559 So it's like this is his rock bottom. 00:15:40.639 --> 00:15:43.279 He's so high during this movie he doesn't remember making it. 00:15:43.600 --> 00:15:44.639 Wow, really? 00:15:44.879 --> 00:15:47.840 Yeah, he he he like he's been asked about it, doesn't remember making it. 00:15:48.000 --> 00:15:48.720 That is so funny. 00:15:48.960 --> 00:15:58.240 During the Mike Tyson scene, he's in character when he's trying to hit on him, and uh like uh the the the crew had to push him away and like you know, just uh because they were worried Mike was actually gonna hit him. 00:15:58.399 --> 00:15:58.879 All right. 00:15:59.200 --> 00:16:02.639 Now, okay, also the reason they might be scared of Mike Tyson, okay. 00:16:03.759 --> 00:16:04.639 Go ahead, go ahead, go ahead. 00:16:04.720 --> 00:16:05.919 So the 90s were bad for him. 00:16:06.080 --> 00:16:06.240 Yeah. 00:16:06.399 --> 00:16:10.799 Like in 92, he's convicted of rape, and that's like that's that's prison time, yeah. 00:16:11.679 --> 00:16:18.000 And so in 95 he gets released and he's trying to like rehabilitate his image, and then in 97 he bites off of Ander Holyfield's Peter. 00:16:18.639 --> 00:16:20.240 They even reference that part in the film. 00:16:20.720 --> 00:16:27.039 But I I think also it was probably in uh like uh it was in so many rap like songs, yeah. 00:16:27.200 --> 00:16:29.679 Just be it's like what rhymes with air, everything. 00:16:29.919 --> 00:16:30.639 Yes, exactly. 00:16:30.879 --> 00:16:32.000 What rhymes with Holyfield? 00:16:32.080 --> 00:16:32.799 Yeah, everything. 00:16:34.000 --> 00:16:42.320 But yeah, so like uh um this is night uh this is '99, the beginning of the year, he gets thrown in jail again for beating up two motorists in like a road rage incident. 00:16:42.480 --> 00:16:42.799 Oh my god. 00:16:42.960 --> 00:16:52.240 And during that time, his security had like had to stop him from doing it, and uh like uh because he's punching them, they end up like uh in court, like you know, testifying against him. 00:16:52.399 --> 00:16:52.879 Oh my goodness. 00:16:53.039 --> 00:16:53.600 Which is amazing. 00:16:53.679 --> 00:16:56.879 Yeah, and also because I want to say this man is uncancelable, right? 00:16:57.039 --> 00:17:01.519 You know, it's like how many controversies can you have before they're just like a survivor, man? 00:17:01.600 --> 00:17:02.960 You know, he's a survivor. 00:17:03.440 --> 00:17:04.160 He's in this movie. 00:17:04.240 --> 00:17:05.519 I think he's really good in it. 00:17:05.680 --> 00:17:06.640 Yeah, he's actually great. 00:17:06.960 --> 00:17:12.160 And the part when he's giving power advice on what to do with this guy who's like snitching on him is. 00:17:12.480 --> 00:17:16.720 But I I think he's got the the quote where it's like, I've made too many mistakes to be a wise man. 00:17:17.039 --> 00:17:17.680 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:17:17.920 --> 00:17:18.559 That's awesome. 00:17:18.640 --> 00:17:24.960 Yeah, like uh it's like didn't you know that like uh they didn't go around, it's like okay, here's your here's your little script, like trying to remember the words. 00:17:25.039 --> 00:17:27.839 Because I doubt he could have done that if it wasn't actually sincere. 00:17:28.319 --> 00:17:31.680 And he, you know, he was speaking so poetically too in the in it. 00:17:31.759 --> 00:17:34.720 And uh I like I like Mike Tyson's role in this. 00:17:35.039 --> 00:17:36.079 You know, I can't believe it. 00:17:36.160 --> 00:17:39.920 We're gonna giving like real compliments to him, but yeah, yeah, he was a good performance. 00:17:40.079 --> 00:17:43.839 He did like it actually it it's a a full decade before the hangover. 00:17:44.000 --> 00:17:44.240 Uh-huh. 00:17:44.319 --> 00:17:48.559 Like uh Decover uh the Decover the Hangovers in uh 2009. 00:17:48.799 --> 00:18:00.880 So he like he I don't know, like uh after that he gets a full like uh like an image like rehab, and like I think he makes so much money off of like that, like he just uh the royalties from how big that was. 00:18:00.960 --> 00:18:09.759 Yeah, and then they get you for the sequels, and like I'm sure with that it's just uh an easy couple million dollars because right now he is broke because of all of the controversy trouble. 00:18:09.920 --> 00:18:10.319 Oh, really? 00:18:10.480 --> 00:18:16.160 Yeah, like um because of all uh the trouble he was getting in there, um uh Nevada wouldn't let him fight. 00:18:16.319 --> 00:18:21.279 So he he couldn't fight in Vegas, and uh like um I think it was also had the ear thing going on. 00:18:21.359 --> 00:18:23.039 Wow, but that was great for ratings, you know. 00:18:23.200 --> 00:18:23.839 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:18:24.000 --> 00:18:27.680 Oh wait, you're talking about when during this era this era of the film. 00:18:27.920 --> 00:18:28.160 Okay, okay. 00:18:28.559 --> 00:18:31.599 And uh he he retires in like uh 2003. 00:18:31.920 --> 00:18:34.720 So like he only has a good four years left. 00:18:35.039 --> 00:18:36.640 And he looks like he's also in great shape. 00:18:36.799 --> 00:18:54.000 Yeah, it's it's it's a stranger thing because um like uh we do know because we know how how time goes, eventually, face tattoo, you know, a couple other like you know, uh like bigger snafuos and stuff like that, but uh just uh like no complaints with his performance in this movie. 00:18:54.240 --> 00:18:54.960 Nah, he did great. 00:18:55.039 --> 00:19:00.240 I thought it was a great random that he was in it, but he did a great job, I thought. 00:19:00.480 --> 00:19:02.960 Well, just I think everyone's random that they're in this movie. 00:19:03.039 --> 00:19:13.920 Like, but but also I I think it's not hard to convince someone to do it if they don't have to memorize lines, they don't have to change their clothes,

they don't have to, you know, like uh I'm certain also there was a big old apology after Robert Downey Jr. 00:19:14.079 --> 00:19:20.400 was like, you know, just let me get some of that Tyson, you know, just like it was uh it the balls of that bandico in there. 00:19:21.039 --> 00:19:24.000 He said, I had a dream that you you were holding me. 00:19:24.640 --> 00:19:27.599 Robert Downey says to Tyson, that was so funny. 00:19:28.160 --> 00:19:30.400 Better the freak out uh by the by the cap. 00:19:30.640 --> 00:19:34.000 I'm gay, yeah, and then he's gay, yeah. 00:19:34.319 --> 00:19:40.160 That was like, you know, and then to be he's married to uh uh Brookshiro, right? 00:19:40.640 --> 00:19:48.079 And then like everyone knows he's gay, but she doesn't know he's gay, or like what you've gotta be in denial of some kind, yeah. 00:19:48.319 --> 00:19:51.920 Like maybe when they met, and it's like he's so flamboyant you'll never understand. 00:19:52.960 --> 00:19:56.079 And you see them, that's not a real couple. 00:19:56.319 --> 00:19:59.680 There's no way she might also be like a full three inches taller than him, man. 00:19:59.759 --> 00:20:06.559 Like it's like I'd be like short king, get that because also she is gorgeous in the movie, yeah, but it's like she's a walking red flag. 00:20:07.519 --> 00:20:09.119 Like the the the hair and everything. 00:20:09.200 --> 00:20:13.200 She's the one who should be asking herself why she's being like uh really influenced by black culture. 00:20:13.359 --> 00:20:13.680 Yeah, right? 00:20:13.920 --> 00:20:20.880 Like she she's up, like not to say she's studying these kids, but the kids are just consuming, and like whatever would be cool at the time. 00:20:20.960 --> 00:20:25.759 I I just say if it were maybe a decade earlier, they'd be wearing jeans and like listening to grunge, maybe. 00:20:25.920 --> 00:20:26.240 Who knows? 00:20:26.400 --> 00:20:27.599 Yeah, yeah. 00:20:27.920 --> 00:20:29.599 But how random, you know. 00:20:29.839 --> 00:20:39.599 There was some other things about this, like the the basketball player being bribed to throw the game, and then that ends up being this whole weird story. 00:20:39.839 --> 00:20:44.960 It's interesting too because uh Ben Sealer is like uh appearing to be either a bookie or a guy who's gambling. 00:20:45.039 --> 00:20:45.119 Right. 00:20:45.279 --> 00:20:54.000 And right now we have a different conversation about that because gambling's all over the goddamn place, and we're just supposed to hope that no one's gonna be influenced by this, you know. 00:20:54.319 --> 00:21:10.319 It's uh I I I don't know, it's uh it's like it's strangely still relevant, which is always just the thing that's like uh I'm guessing also because it's like it's based in NYU for like education, the idea that you know, just we still put so much money into like athletics, and I mean what do they get out of it? 00:21:10.400 --> 00:21:14.480 Like uh That's right, yeah, and so he's actually he's

not an idiot for taking the back. 00:21:15.039 --> 00:21:17.839 You know, like uh it just it was an opportunity, an unfair one. 00:21:17.920 --> 00:21:22.799 He's being targeted, yeah, which we later find out, but also everyone knows each other in this town. 00:21:22.960 --> 00:21:26.079 Apparently, New York's like the size of I don't know, can of Teo? 00:21:26.319 --> 00:21:28.000 Yeah, Sullivan Park. 00:21:28.240 --> 00:21:33.680 Yeah, seriously, it's like you know, every other building's a dispensary, or I I don't know what they do there. 00:21:34.640 --> 00:21:37.599 Can you name the three Academy Award winners in this movie? 00:21:37.839 --> 00:21:41.920 Well, probably I'm I'm gonna guess Elijah Wood. 00:21:42.240 --> 00:21:42.480 No. 00:21:42.799 --> 00:21:43.759 He hasn't won anything? 00:21:44.079 --> 00:21:44.480 I know. 00:21:44.799 --> 00:21:44.960 What? 00:21:45.200 --> 00:21:48.000 I know I know what about Robert Downey Jr. 00:21:48.240 --> 00:21:49.599 Okay, uh Robert Downey Jr. 00:21:49.759 --> 00:21:53.440 recently won uh a supporting actor for um uh Oppenheimer. 00:21:53.599 --> 00:21:54.559 Uh Brooke Shields. 00:21:54.720 --> 00:21:57.440 Nope, no Academy won anything. 00:21:58.960 --> 00:21:59.279 Uh 00:22:01.440 --> 00:22:11.279 The most random people that are in this movie turned out to get both of the so two of them best supporting, one of them has a best uh like male lead. 00:22:11.759 --> 00:22:14.000 I am I am bamboozled. 00:22:14.400 --> 00:22:15.119 I had no idea. 00:22:15.920 --> 00:22:21.599 I wouldn't have guessed it either, but fucking Jared Leto has an Academy Award for supporting actors for a Dallas Buyers Club. 00:22:21.759 --> 00:22:22.079 That's right. 00:22:22.319 --> 00:22:26.480 In this movie, he's like that bleach blonde fuck boy from Fight Club. 00:22:26.559 --> 00:22:26.720 Yeah. 00:22:27.039 --> 00:22:28.880 It's like he has that same look, and he's he's in this. 00:22:29.279 --> 00:22:32.640 Wait, is Jared Leto the one who shoots the basketball player? 00:22:32.880 --> 00:22:34.960 No, Jared Leto is the professor. 00:22:35.200 --> 00:22:36.240 Oh, that's right. 00:22:36.960 --> 00:22:42.079 He's in the movie for two minutes, two minutes of actual screen time. 00:22:42.319 --> 00:22:45.440 He's the in the credits, he hooks up with Robert Duty Jr. 00:22:45.519 --> 00:22:46.559 and they walk away like they're happy. 00:22:47.519 --> 00:22:48.559 And then six months later. 00:22:50.960 --> 00:22:55.839 It's like for a second, when he was in the classroom, he was like the Michelle Pfeiffer in Dangerous Minds. 00:22:56.079 --> 00:22:56.240 Kind of. 00:22:56.559 --> 00:22:57.119 You know what I'm saying? 00:22:57.599 --> 00:22:59.519 And I was like, wow, this is profound and shit. 00:22:59.680 --> 00:23:03.359 And then he ends up just being just a random like dude, you know? 00:23:03.519 --> 00:23:03.839 Yeah. 00:23:04.079 --> 00:23:08.160 Okay, so but so like uh and then the final one is Michael B. 00:23:08.240 --> 00:23:08.559 Jordan. 00:23:08.799 --> 00:23:09.759 There is a young Michael B. 00:23:09.839 --> 00:23:10.319 Jordan in the city. 00:23:11.119 --> 00:23:11.839 I didn't even notice him. 00:23:11.920 --> 00:23:14.400 He's one of the kids having cereal with Raekwon. 00:23:14.720 --> 00:23:16.160 Oh shoot. 00:23:16.640 --> 00:23:17.680 I didn't even notice him in this. 00:23:18.799 --> 00:23:19.599 His first role. 00:23:19.680 --> 00:23:30.160 So here's the thing: if the director, James Tobak, who um he was the um the white guy who ran the um recording studio, yeah, the one that didn't want them to go, like that's the director. 00:23:30.319 --> 00:23:30.559 Yeah. 00:23:30.720 --> 00:23:35.680 If he wanted to take credit for all three of those dudes' careers, he could probably do it. 00:23:35.839 --> 00:23:40.160 Just be like, I saw it, I knew like I knew those guys were gonna be big, I put them in my movie. 00:23:40.240 --> 00:23:41.440 Y'all thought I was an idiot. 00:23:41.599 --> 00:23:42.240 Yeah, right. 00:23:42.400 --> 00:23:44.400 I I didn't even realize that was Michael B. 00:23:44.559 --> 00:23:45.279 Jordan in this thing. 00:23:45.599 --> 00:23:50.000 Well, and uh like um uh for him, it does start a bunch of child actor stuff. 00:23:50.079 --> 00:23:56.000 Like he he does have uh like you know, he does a lot of TV, and then uh like uh just it he does find his boys in the book. 00:23:56.480 --> 00:23:58.240 So he was in the fruity pebbles scene. 00:23:58.400 --> 00:24:04.240 Yes, it was a box of fruit like Raekwon, like they they like the woo is in there eat your fruity pebbles. 00:24:04.319 --> 00:24:05.039 That is pretty wild. 00:24:05.200 --> 00:24:09.440 And so then you also wonder it's like uh how do you like uh go for like a casting call? 00:24:09.519 --> 00:24:12.319 Because also, the can you imagine the casting call for this movie? 00:24:12.400 --> 00:24:13.680 Did they say no to anyone? 00:24:14.000 --> 00:24:17.200 Probably not, or it's just like everyone who showed up, it's like we're gonna make this movie happen. 00:24:17.440 --> 00:24:34.319 Yeah, but uh, but uh to put that in context, because I just uh said that um uh so uh Proto Baggins, Elijah Wood, Derek Zoolander, uh Ben Stiller, and Cypher from the Matrix, Joe Pantaleano, so Joey Pants, whom I love in for one scene because he has to be the district attorney. 00:24:34.400 --> 00:24:36.400 Yeah, which that's the biggest plot hole. 00:24:36.559 --> 00:24:43.200 Biggest plot hole is that this the the son of the district attorney is like obsessed with the the black dudes is turf. 00:24:43.440 --> 00:24:43.759 Exactly. 00:24:44.079 --> 00:25:00.079 Like, and like you know, just uh you're right, not an acting black, being a criminal because apparently that's what has been sold in the in this like culturally, but uh it's like but no uh Michael Morbius, Iron Man, and Adonis Creed, all of those have act like Oscars. 00:25:00.160 --> 00:25:01.039 That's insane.

00:25:01.279 --> 00:25:03.599 Yo, can I mention one hilarious thing? 00:25:04.160 --> 00:25:04.640 Please, please do. 00:25:04.960 --> 00:25:06.480 Going back to the fruity pebbles. 00:25:06.799 --> 00:25:14.400 Uh power comes out in these like baggy white socks, like walking across the kitchen with his socks. 00:25:14.480 --> 00:25:17.200 I was like, yo, who did the wardrobe and this shit? 00:25:17.279 --> 00:25:19.680 Like they they didn't he probably did. 00:25:19.839 --> 00:25:24.799 He's just like, of course, we're all gonna wear our woo-wear, we're gonna show it up, and people are gonna be like, Where'd it get that? 00:25:24.960 --> 00:25:29.920 And it's like, yo, bro, you had on just some white socks, like, man, that was so funny. 00:25:30.160 --> 00:25:31.599 Okay, so this is uh funny. 00:25:31.680 --> 00:25:37.279 Um uh I I I've watched this movie a little too much because I also watched it with the the director's commentary. 00:25:37.359 --> 00:25:47.440 Yeah, and so the Tobak, when he was talking about um uh when Method Man rolled up and uh like and like it came out for that one just very improvised scene, right? 00:25:47.599 --> 00:25:55.759 Um, because him and power were beefing at the time, because he didn't like woo-ware, he was like, This is cheap, it it like you know, it it lowers our our our value. 00:25:55.839 --> 00:26:01.759 Like, I don't want to cop it, I don't want to wear it, and then like yeah, old dirty bastard being like, I'm making old, you know, old dirty clothes. 00:26:01.920 --> 00:26:08.640 Yeah, just like uh everyone's just like you know, because everyone's diversifying, and power did did good by business-wise, all on that. 00:26:08.720 --> 00:26:11.200 But as soon as like Mathe Man gets out, power fucks off. 00:26:11.440 --> 00:26:13.759 It's just like I'm not gonna talk to him, he's gonna ruin the shit. 00:26:13.839 --> 00:26:14.240 Like the shit. 00:26:15.200 --> 00:26:24.640 So like I uh I I love this little, I don't know, like schisms that are that are forming inside of Wu Tang, but it's also just because success has made them less connected to one another. 00:26:24.880 --> 00:26:35.839 I'm guessing what uh especially when they're in like in the basement in uh in Stanton Island, they're just you know, like uh we have to, you know, we have to work together to get this to come out, and then they all do their solo projects. 00:26:35.920 --> 00:26:38.559 They all you know, I don't know, everyone wants to be a businessman. 00:26:38.640 --> 00:26:40.480 You can't be rapping when you're uh in your 60s. 00:26:40.880 --> 00:26:41.599 It's tough, man. 00:26:41.680 --> 00:26:43.200 You gotta figure that out, you know. 00:26:43.440 --> 00:26:45.279 Method talk about diversifying. 00:26:45.359 --> 00:26:48.799 Like right now, Method Man has definitely been doing a lot of stuff, man. 00:26:49.119 --> 00:26:53.039 You see him like uh taking pictures at uh the Jets games, I think it is. 00:26:53.279 --> 00:26:53.519 Really?

00:26:54.319 --> 00:26:56.400 With the big ass lens, like a sports photographer. 00:26:56.720 --> 00:26:57.359 Okay, that's awesome. 00:26:57.839 --> 00:27:04.160 He has all types of merch and brands and Okay, we're also talking about like um this is a bad movie that Method Man is in. 00:27:04.319 --> 00:27:06.240 Method Man's in a lot of bad movies, yeah. 00:27:06.720 --> 00:27:09.599 But like you cannot hold that against him for anything, man. 00:27:09.680 --> 00:27:15.519 Like, I was I was trying to think, like, if we just list bad movies in, man, like he's definitely in a scary movie. 00:27:15.680 --> 00:27:19.839 He's uh he's definitely in soul plane, like you know, just how high? 00:27:19.920 --> 00:27:29.279 I wouldn't say that's not a bad movie, but it's it's also just it's like obviously he's not the creator of the crop or so, but this might be a dark spot on his history. 00:27:30.000 --> 00:27:30.960 Why the hell was I in that? 00:27:31.279 --> 00:27:32.960 Accidentally in the movie, though. 00:27:33.039 --> 00:27:37.440 I thought it was interesting too when they go to the wall and met the man that says Wu Tang. 00:27:37.519 --> 00:27:39.200 He was like, Wu Tang, you know? 00:27:39.440 --> 00:27:48.640 And I was like, yo, they're not like I didn't know if they were supposed to be Wu Tang in the film, like they were playing similar type characters, right? 00:27:49.039 --> 00:27:52.319 But I thought that was interesting that he shouted out the name of the crew. 00:27:52.640 --> 00:27:59.759 Well, you know, it's so I I know um like uh Raekwon, they give him a different name and they're like referring to him as something else, but he's very much being himself. 00:28:00.240 --> 00:28:00.960 Yes, definitely. 00:28:01.200 --> 00:28:04.400 It's like um also I'm kind of glad that that's the uh that's the case. 00:28:04.480 --> 00:28:06.880 I'm glad they don't have to act like you know other people. 00:28:07.039 --> 00:28:16.160 It it it's it's interesting, they achieve success through hip-hop, but they don't want to continue to do that, or like it if they want to, it's uh it's purely for an artistic type. 00:28:16.240 --> 00:28:20.000 Uh like uh uh let's use like a current example. 00:28:20.160 --> 00:28:27.359 Um uh right now, if uh if you want to have a career in anything else, you start in hip-hop, and this is like a very big white cultural appropriation thing. 00:28:27.599 --> 00:28:31.680 So I'll think um post Malone, Jelly Roll, shoot man kid rock. 00:28:31.759 --> 00:28:33.200 All right, like uh guess what you do? 00:28:33.279 --> 00:28:38.160 You start off in hip-hop because it's popular, you make a name for yourself, and then you segue into a country career. 00:28:38.720 --> 00:28:39.279 Yeah, exactly. 00:28:39.599 --> 00:28:43.680 And and so it's like that is that is culture appropriation, that is using black people. 00:28:44.160 --> 00:28:45.519 Well, you that is earned. 00:28:45.599 --> 00:28:56.079 Okay, it's it's different when it's a it's it's different when a kid likes something from a different culture, it's a different thing to uh make success off of it and then wildly change because you were never really that. 00:28:56.240 --> 00:28:56.720 Exactly. 00:28:56.960 --> 00:28:57.599 There you go. 00:28:57.839 --> 00:29:14.319 Even but even like someone like Kanye West, right, who has admitted, yo, I I I I was never really a backpacker, backpack rapper, but I I embodied that to get this fan base, you know, and then he broke off to do what the things that he would do. 00:29:14.880 --> 00:29:21.039 If you were honest, I think he probably wanted uh like he would have been cool actually having like a band like Portiset or something like that. 00:29:21.200 --> 00:29:22.720 He could have he would have loved that. 00:29:22.799 --> 00:29:27.359 Yeah, like uh he was he would have been the drummer just to do it in NPC, and uh like that's the thing. 00:29:27.440 --> 00:29:29.839 Also, I have all my heroes let me down. 00:29:30.000 --> 00:29:32.319 Like it's like Kanye West is a hero of mine. 00:29:32.480 --> 00:29:32.880 Wow, okay. 00:29:33.279 --> 00:29:35.839 So like that's it, it is embarrassing to have that. 00:29:35.920 --> 00:29:52.480 But like we're if we're gonna make a list of uh of like uh rappers that act now, the biggest one I can think of too is common, because I remember seeing on Chappelle Show Common Sense and Kanye West, and they were uh performing live the food, and I'm suddenly like, oh my god, I love this. 00:29:52.640 --> 00:29:53.119 What is this? 00:29:53.200 --> 00:30:00.480 Yes and uh like it's just uh it's like a childhood memory of just like uh-oh, like uh it's kind of like out trying a food, and it's like, well, that's my favorite thing. 00:30:00.559 --> 00:30:02.880 Yeah, it's like and it's like it got me hooked. 00:30:03.200 --> 00:30:04.640 That was a great performance they put on. 00:30:04.960 --> 00:30:15.519 And so I'm just like uh uh it's like when you see your hero that young too, and like it kind of turns out, yeah, just uh like it he really wanted to, you know, I don't know, not even be the star, just not be clowned on. 00:30:15.599 --> 00:30:15.839 Yeah, yeah. 00:30:16.240 --> 00:30:17.680 It seems everyone did that. 00:30:17.839 --> 00:30:29.200 Uh and so the uh it's the reason I know about the the Riz, uh I like the producers uh uh really that uh I don't know the are usually the backbone behind really the especially the your mega groups and stuff like that. 00:30:29.359 --> 00:30:34.160 It's it's why it's like if you're looking up anything besides uh you know um controversies in Dr. 00:30:34.319 --> 00:30:36.240 Trey's you know Wikipedia, it's like God he's awesome. 00:30:36.319 --> 00:30:36.400 Right. 00:30:36.640 --> 00:31:00.640 But uh it's like you know, then then it's like the personal stuff that'd be like nah, but like uh, you know, I I don't know, anytime uh you know I I found out somebody was good or like with a sampler, I'm like, oh

I want to learn about that guy because though they were hard to learn, like uh especially in a time without YouTube or like you know, just uh like you would get a you would get a booklet that told you how to do it, and it I don't know, just uh like it that's not conducive to learning in anything. 00:31:01.039 --> 00:31:02.160 Reading the booklet is different. 00:31:02.319 --> 00:31:04.880 That's a different, that's a whole different animal than the movie at today. 00:31:05.279 --> 00:31:09.039 Akai was made in Japan, so they would just do a very straight uh translation. 00:31:09.119 --> 00:31:12.160 They wouldn't try, you know, and like so the buttons didn't say the same thing. 00:31:12.240 --> 00:31:14.559 It's an execute, it says enter, you know. 00:31:15.119 --> 00:31:19.359 So I yo, the soundtrack on this movie though, pretty dope. 00:31:19.519 --> 00:31:20.720 Okay, uh pretty dope. 00:31:20.960 --> 00:31:30.799 Pretty dope soundtrack, but it's also um whenever we cut to a um uh like a white thing, they uh a white person's place, let's cut to some classical music playing in the background. 00:31:30.960 --> 00:31:33.440 So it's like these people are so white, they're from the past. 00:31:33.599 --> 00:31:34.400 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:31:34.559 --> 00:31:35.359 That's so funny. 00:31:35.519 --> 00:31:39.119 And also, it's just like just like the way her family like dresses in the beginning, too. 00:31:39.279 --> 00:31:49.920 It's like this this uh this family that they had to sit here for 10 minutes to shoot this thing, and like and it just it uh it probably took longer for them to get into their wardrobe than it did to take to shoot it. 00:31:50.000 --> 00:31:53.599 And uh, like uh you're uh definitely revit the soundtrack though. 00:31:53.759 --> 00:32:01.200 Um here's the thing had this uh uh I don't know, had this movie kind of done better, it probably would have been a better selling aspect of it. 00:32:01.519 --> 00:32:10.000 Because um this is a screen gens project and Sony has all the rights that so it would have been Sony like uh distribution, so it would have been everywhere in CD form. 00:32:10.160 --> 00:32:13.599 We would just know it's like what's black and white, it's like oh that's a movie exactly. 00:32:13.680 --> 00:32:23.200 It's like but the soundtrack's dope, and it's just like so they didn't even bother as soon as they were like this movie's you know difficult to uh to like you know to to deal with I or promote. 00:32:23.359 --> 00:32:25.920 It's like how do you promote this honestly? 00:32:26.079 --> 00:32:32.720 But it's tough, and especially with like a lot of the younger actors aren't who they are today, right? 00:32:32.799 --> 00:32:35.359 They didn't really have that name recognition, you know. 00:32:35.440 --> 00:32:38.319 So I imagine this must have been oh, okay. 00:32:38.559 --> 00:32:50.160 We're kind of watching the movie in the background, and here's Inspect the Deck right here, who uh he just dropped an album this year, by the way, um produced by uh someone that I know named P.A. 00:32:50.319 --> 00:32:50.640 Dre. 00:32:51.440 --> 00:32:53.359 And the album is pretty interesting too, man. 00:32:53.440 --> 00:33:01.279 So it's dope to see like Inspect the Deck in this, and you know, you've asked me to do to you know talk about it, and now like he just dropped an album. 00:33:01.440 --> 00:33:04.559 Oh, sticky fingers from Onyx is in the movie. 00:33:04.799 --> 00:33:08.160 They got Onyx in here, like at the party, right? 00:33:08.319 --> 00:33:09.200 Like, what? 00:33:10.960 --> 00:33:11.200 What? 00:33:11.440 --> 00:33:17.119 So so also uh just to just talk about like the uh like uh currently they're they're in this club. 00:33:17.279 --> 00:33:19.359 It what's with the Italians? 00:33:19.680 --> 00:33:21.440 Yeah, yeah, the mob bosses, right? 00:33:21.839 --> 00:33:26.000 Because they they they they came in and they um like they started some shit shit in the restaurant, I guess. 00:33:26.079 --> 00:33:31.680 And then like uh like uh uh uh organized crime comes in all shades in this movie, blacks and whites. 00:33:32.000 --> 00:33:32.559 So funny. 00:33:33.039 --> 00:33:34.240 And they're buddies too. 00:33:34.400 --> 00:33:37.599 They're like, oh, this is he's like uh power and the mob. 00:33:37.680 --> 00:33:38.880 They're like buddies, right? 00:33:39.039 --> 00:33:40.319 I bet you have to make connections. 00:33:40.400 --> 00:33:42.240 Yeah, it's just like he's just my dude in the hood. 00:33:42.319 --> 00:33:42.880 And guess what? 00:33:42.960 --> 00:33:50.400 Now he's moving up in the world exactly of the Italians, the uh guy who was like the like maitre D of the restaurant, Scott Conn. 00:33:50.720 --> 00:33:55.039 Um, and you shit, you you you probably know him because he acts in a bunch of stuff. 00:33:55.119 --> 00:33:58.240 He was in the uh the reboot of Hawaii 5-0 and stuff. 00:33:58.480 --> 00:34:01.119 Okay, he was in entourage and a bunch of uh a bunch of crap. 00:34:01.279 --> 00:34:08.880 But um, so like he's the next son of James Conn, and in '95, uh he's signed uh like a record deal, and he was in the band called Hooligans. 00:34:09.199 --> 00:34:09.440 Wow. 00:34:09.679 --> 00:34:12.480 W H O O L I G A S Y. 00:34:13.280 --> 00:34:13.679 All right. 00:34:13.840 --> 00:34:18.400 Now um in Hooligans is him and The Alchemist. 00:34:18.639 --> 00:34:19.119 What? 00:34:19.360 --> 00:34:20.880 The Alchemist started as a rapper. 00:34:21.280 --> 00:34:22.000 That's his first group. 00:34:22.159 --> 00:34:23.119 Yes, the Hooligans. 00:34:23.360 --> 00:34:27.280 And so uh him and and con they started as roadies for Cypress Hill and House of Pets. 00:34:27.519 --> 00:34:27.840 That's right. 00:34:27.920 --> 00:34:31.119 And eventually they're like, these guys are cool and they can, you know, they can rap producerly. 00:34:31.519 --> 00:34:39.920 And uh like uh just uh I remember like also uh um around this time it's like Alchemist produces

for like evidence in uh like diluted peoples and stuff like that. 00:34:40.000 --> 00:34:41.280 So makes a name for himself. 00:34:41.519 --> 00:34:44.079 He also works at like a bunch of like games and stuff. 00:34:44.159 --> 00:34:49.840 So like in Grand The Thought of Five, if you get into a car, you can listen to a radio station that is just Alchemist beats. 00:34:50.079 --> 00:34:50.800 Wow, man. 00:34:50.960 --> 00:34:52.639 Yeah, Alchemist is dope. 00:34:52.880 --> 00:34:54.800 He's dope, but that's a crazy connection. 00:34:54.960 --> 00:34:59.119 Uh the Alchemist broke ribs and collapsed along when Eminem's tour bus flipped. 00:34:59.440 --> 00:34:59.920 What? 00:35:00.079 --> 00:35:06.320 Yeah, apparently they were on tour and like uh they hit some black ice and like uh you you're in the bus and no one's wearing seat belts. 00:35:06.480 --> 00:35:15.599 So just every person starts like rolling on the side and stuff, and like something lands on him, and just you know, you'd like uh he uh had to go to the air because he couldn't put any air in it. 00:35:16.000 --> 00:35:22.079 Crazy, just just nuts, and now I'm thinking about it, just uh so so uh Scott Conn probably could have been you know the next thing in hip hop. 00:35:22.480 --> 00:35:40.079 Instead, he's like, I'm gonna be an actor, and it's fine, you know, just uh um that being said, also uh we were gonna uh list uh like um uh being that like um uh we're saying that for white, say like people that started hip hop, you can choose a different genre to like graduate to. 00:35:40.159 --> 00:35:42.480 Yeah, it's a little different for black people, really. 00:35:42.559 --> 00:35:45.119 Like uh and so like uh I can say a couple examples. 00:35:45.199 --> 00:35:52.400 I would say like uh Beyonce going to country for an album is forgivable because she's kind of you know exhausted her acting career and stuff. 00:35:52.559 --> 00:35:53.119 Who is this? 00:35:53.360 --> 00:35:54.960 Beyonce, okay, possibly, yeah. 00:35:55.199 --> 00:35:59.360 And then for but she is from uh isn't she from uh Dallas? 00:35:59.599 --> 00:36:00.000 She is? 00:36:00.159 --> 00:36:02.480 Yeah, so that can be a country connection. 00:36:03.360 --> 00:36:05.280 I'm not uh not f sliding against that. 00:36:05.679 --> 00:36:07.440 Snoop Dogg also being Snoop Lion for an album. 00:36:07.760 --> 00:36:08.800 Snoop Lion is wild. 00:36:08.960 --> 00:36:10.079 That was out of pocket, but I think. 00:36:10.480 --> 00:36:15.360 It's also it's like, okay, so it's different for it's hard to jump to a you know different genre if you're going through this. 00:36:15.679 --> 00:36:17.199 They get a lot of criticism for that. 00:36:17.360 --> 00:36:24.000 Well, it's a uh yes, it's like if you're not gonna stick to your roots, then you know you've betrayed everyone who believed in you as uh as your story. 00:36:24.639 --> 00:36:34.000 But it's like that for that, I do think the uh it's far more likely if you're uh uh like uh a rapper or something like that, you will graduate to acting instead. 00:36:34.320 --> 00:36:39.920 Because it it really it's more consistent, less competitive right now, and also there's no record sales right now. 00:36:40.079 --> 00:36:40.320 Right. 00:36:40.559 --> 00:36:49.760 So like uh it's it would actually probably be easier to get you know uh a spot on a show than it would be to you know like you know put out an album that would that you would make money from. 00:36:50.000 --> 00:36:54.559 Like uh it's like also uh if you have like the best streaming song, you might not make any money off of it. 00:36:54.639 --> 00:36:54.880 Yeah. 00:36:55.280 --> 00:36:58.079 Well, you know, Nas, for example, right? 00:36:58.239 --> 00:37:09.920 Nas, he's diversified his his cat his uh his catalog, you know, he's he has mass appeal, um, he's behind different tech type companies and things like that. 00:37:10.079 --> 00:37:15.119 Nas is one of the people who I think has been able to diversify without much criticism. 00:37:15.679 --> 00:37:27.920 And uh, you know, some others, uh no names are coming to my mind right now, but to to break off from rap and then go to country is is uh it's uh that's a that's a wild one right there. 00:37:28.239 --> 00:37:38.079 Well and also uh is it uh country kind of your uh stripped down uh like uh version of rock, which uh really was stolen also from black people. 00:37:38.480 --> 00:37:40.960 So maybe it's not that wild of a joke. 00:37:41.199 --> 00:37:52.159 Yeah, no, no, it's it it I I I'm guessing it truly isn't because I'm also I'm thinking it's like they don't want banjos up there, they kind of want to rock out, but there's no there's no uh market for rock music right now, really. 00:37:52.320 --> 00:37:59.760 Like uh the market for rock music is classic, and so it's why the Rolling Stones can keep you know touring out there and selling you know tickets for like$50 a pop. 00:38:00.000 --> 00:38:02.719 Like it's you know, it wanna go see Big Jagger do satisfaction, right? 00:38:02.960 --> 00:38:13.920 You do whereas I I I don't know if uh like especially with the ticket uh master situation, I don't know if you could actually travel around and have like a regular audience, right? 00:38:14.079 --> 00:38:18.480 And so it's like you you actually want to like attract an older audience because they can pay for the tickets. 00:38:18.719 --> 00:38:19.280 There we go. 00:38:19.440 --> 00:38:20.320 They got the budget. 00:38:20.559 --> 00:38:23.440 Also, they're you know, they're probably not working uh you know the next morning. 00:38:23.599 --> 00:38:28.880 Uh like uh it's there's the thing, as soon as it became 30, suddenly I'm like, oh man, I can stay up till that late. 00:38:29.039 --> 00:38:29.840 Yeah, exactly. 00:38:30.000 --> 00:38:31.519 I'm trying to be home by 10, bro. 00:38:32.880 --> 00:38:35.920 I have things to do in the morning, just to eat, yeah. 00:38:36.000 --> 00:38:40.639 So uh uh let's get down to

actually like a a little bit of rating uh on this movie, right? 00:38:40.719 --> 00:38:46.800 So like uh I I do a one to ten rating, and my my thing is it's not whether or not this is a good movie or a bad movie. 00:38:46.880 --> 00:38:50.159 Okay, it's more of like one is I'm never gonna watch it again. 00:38:50.239 --> 00:38:59.280 And ten means I'm either gonna watch it or and so like uh there's degrees to it, but like uh am I gonna watch this again or am I gonna try to show it to somebody? 00:38:59.440 --> 00:39:05.280 Is there like uh culturally will this be relevant in any way that like I can I can see damn in the future? 00:39:06.320 --> 00:39:12.559 Because it is the weirdest movie, and like uh if if you bring it up in a conversation, no one's gonna know what you're talking about. 00:39:12.800 --> 00:39:16.000 And nobody that would be a weird reference, you know. 00:39:16.239 --> 00:39:24.239 Uh I would probably say I would probably so zero is like I would never watch it again, or one's like I would never watch it again. 00:39:25.360 --> 00:39:28.960 I'd probably be like, I'd probably hit it with a solid like three. 00:39:29.679 --> 00:39:31.599 I'd probably do like a three. 00:39:31.760 --> 00:39:36.000 Like, if I was teaching a class on diversity, shoot. 00:39:36.159 --> 00:39:38.800 This might actually I might show a clip. 00:39:38.880 --> 00:39:39.199 Uh-huh. 00:39:39.519 --> 00:39:40.639 Not the whole thing. 00:39:40.880 --> 00:39:41.679 You know what I mean? 00:39:41.840 --> 00:39:47.039 Like, I would show a clip, like, so we can talk about some of these ideas, you know? 00:39:47.280 --> 00:39:52.880 Um sociology class, uh, a little clip of it, right? 00:39:53.360 --> 00:39:57.039 Um, but am I gonna be like, you know what I really want to see again? 00:39:57.280 --> 00:39:57.840 Probably not. 00:39:58.480 --> 00:40:11.119 Probably I'm not gonna be like, out of all the movies in the world we could watch, this one probably will not come to mind unless I'm with a particular group of people and I'm like, yo, y'all wanna see something really weird? 00:40:11.840 --> 00:40:14.000 I got this film, you know. 00:40:14.159 --> 00:40:16.559 My guy, my guy Evan shared with me. 00:40:17.599 --> 00:40:20.239 You never heard of this shit before, you know? 00:40:20.400 --> 00:40:21.119 And guess what? 00:40:21.280 --> 00:40:23.519 Ben Stiller's in it with Rae Kwan. 00:40:24.800 --> 00:40:25.360 You know? 00:40:26.320 --> 00:40:27.679 Okay, um, uh, here's the thing. 00:40:27.840 --> 00:40:32.800 We are watching uh having the movie just rolling behind us, and uh we we did just uh have the murder go on. 00:40:32.880 --> 00:40:41.119 And it's the strangest thing where I can uh say I can't give advice to tall black men, but my thing is if a guy has a gun out of you, don't slowly amble towards them. 00:40:41.199 --> 00:40:41.840 Yeah, right. 00:40:42.159 --> 00:40:49.039 Just like making yourself target actually, just you know especially a sketchy little

white dude with a gun with a silencer on it, you know. 00:40:49.280 --> 00:40:52.800 Which is strange, like you know, just it doesn't seem to be tweaking, but he just can't stand straight. 00:40:52.880 --> 00:40:57.599 You know, just uh like that character is just uh a walking contradiction, you know. 00:40:58.239 --> 00:40:58.880 Yeah, for sure. 00:41:00.880 --> 00:41:10.320 The the guy that was like, I got arrested, you know, and he's like the basketball player, because he was, you know, he threw the game, he got caught gambling, or not gambling, but uh selling the game, right? 00:41:10.480 --> 00:41:11.360 Or throwing the game. 00:41:11.440 --> 00:41:14.559 And he's like, I got arrested, but like he didn't really get arrested. 00:41:14.639 --> 00:41:14.960 Uh uh. 00:41:15.360 --> 00:41:17.920 And he just Ben Stiller was just like, I'm a cop. 00:41:18.159 --> 00:41:19.599 Yeah, you're arrested, you know. 00:41:19.679 --> 00:41:24.320 But he didn't go to no police station, didn't get booked, didn't have to get, you know, look at that county. 00:41:26.079 --> 00:41:30.079 Nothing, you know, and all of a sudden he's like, you know, gonna throw his buddy under the bus. 00:41:30.239 --> 00:41:30.960 You know what I mean? 00:41:31.199 --> 00:41:33.199 So the all the women are taller than the men in this. 00:41:33.280 --> 00:41:33.760 It's crazy. 00:41:34.159 --> 00:41:34.559 That's true. 00:41:34.639 --> 00:41:36.079 That's another trend in the film. 00:41:36.559 --> 00:41:39.920 But how did Ben Stiller I'm calling him Ben Stiller? 00:41:40.159 --> 00:41:45.039 Like now he's date, like he was turns out he was dating it's Claudia Schiffer, isn't it? 00:41:45.440 --> 00:41:45.840 Yes! 00:41:46.159 --> 00:41:47.039 Oh my gosh. 00:41:49.039 --> 00:41:53.840 So she is the only one who needed uh like her lines to be written out because she could not improvise. 00:41:54.159 --> 00:41:54.400 Wow. 00:41:54.960 --> 00:42:03.519 It's also like for her, she's usually sitting down, like, you know, writing a dissertation and like you know, complaining that you know uh her boyfriend should be more assertive, yeah. 00:42:03.599 --> 00:42:06.079 And then she's manipulating, you know, Ray Kwan. 00:42:06.400 --> 00:42:11.920 And I don't know, now you have uh uh Ben Stiller who's pretty damn good looking in this, too, man. 00:42:12.000 --> 00:42:12.719 He's just so young. 00:42:12.960 --> 00:42:14.000 Ben Stiller, yeah, man. 00:42:14.159 --> 00:42:18.800 Look at him with his black shades on, looking like he's not especially as director. 00:42:18.880 --> 00:42:20.559 How doesn't he have an Academy Award or something? 00:42:20.639 --> 00:42:23.760 You know, like Ben Stiller needs an Oscar for something. 00:42:24.000 --> 00:42:26.639 He made the cable guy a couple years before this, all right? 00:42:26.719 --> 00:42:39.039 That as a director, man, like uh just uh But I can't, but like, even though he was kind of trying to play like a semi-serious role, it's a really funny

role that he played. 00:42:39.119 --> 00:42:43.280 Like some of his lines and stuff, like the part where he was like, uh, I got the money. 00:42:43.360 --> 00:42:45.599 It's where's it out? 00:42:45.679 --> 00:42:46.639 You know, like where's the money? 00:42:46.719 --> 00:42:49.119 He doesn't it's in my underwear. 00:42:49.440 --> 00:42:50.639 He said, Well, give me the money. 00:42:50.719 --> 00:42:55.199 He's like, Well, well, come to the bathroom, and and you know, let's go to the bathroom, I'll give you the money there. 00:42:55.360 --> 00:42:57.760 Like, that was the most hilarious scene. 00:42:58.079 --> 00:43:00.880 I'm probably right around the like three, four, two. 00:43:01.039 --> 00:43:02.320 It's just like uh here's the thing. 00:43:02.400 --> 00:43:04.400 Um, it it's good that I watched this. 00:43:04.480 --> 00:43:11.119 I remember um catching a part of this on VH1 back in the day, and back in the day, meaning like, you know, oh six or something like that. 00:43:11.679 --> 00:43:14.000 And uh just back when there was music on that. 00:43:14.159 --> 00:43:17.679 And you know, just uh like uh and so I remember like, what the hell is this movie? 00:43:17.840 --> 00:43:22.960 And I I I didn't remember like you know, I hadn't like you know like you know pursued it or anything. 00:43:23.039 --> 00:43:30.159 Yeah, and then because of this show, because I'm to like you know, kind of in a completionist mood and you just you know listen to anything, this was the hardest one to track down. 00:43:30.320 --> 00:43:43.679 Wow, like um uh it it also uh I talked about this movie's orange, but like uh um this is the way it looked like in theaters, and like uh the the uh I I'm I was like worried when I sent you the version of it because it was like, man, this looks horrible. 00:43:43.760 --> 00:43:45.119 And then like I actually watch it. 00:43:45.199 --> 00:43:46.079 No, it looks the same. 00:43:46.239 --> 00:43:46.639 Yeah, yeah. 00:43:47.360 --> 00:43:48.079 That's crazy. 00:43:48.400 --> 00:43:51.280 You know, man, there's so much to say about this. 00:43:51.360 --> 00:43:57.519 That there's another thing, like at first I thought, wow, they're really stereotyping a lot of folks. 00:43:57.679 --> 00:43:59.599 Like they stereotype like the one. 00:44:00.239 --> 00:44:05.760 Be black, white kids, you know, like they stereotyped the rappers quite a bit. 00:44:05.920 --> 00:44:11.519 Maybe, maybe, you know, they made them like thugs and they're pulling out guns on people and stuff, right? 00:44:11.920 --> 00:44:16.800 But then at the same time, there was some breaking of stereotypes as well. 00:44:17.039 --> 00:44:29.760 You know, like they had the journalist for I forgot what magazine it was, but black journalist from this magazine that was talking to the DA, trying to get like a conversation with the DA or something like that. 00:44:30.400 --> 00:44:31.760 Interrupting him during lunch and that was a good one. 00:44:31.920 --> 00:44:33.119 Well, yeah, during lunch, right? 00:44:33.199 --> 00:44:59.840 And then you had um uh there was some you had the basketball player who you would think was gonna make the right choice and not sell his soul to the devil, so to speak, but then he does sell his soul to the devil, you know, ends up getting shot by a little white boy, you know, like that there was some, I I felt like they were trying to like bend some of the stereotypes a little bit. 00:45:00.639 --> 00:45:03.920 So he was the one really with the opportunity to do the right thing. 00:45:04.239 --> 00:45:04.639 Exactly. 00:45:04.960 --> 00:45:12.480 And it's also um in every story, it's like uh character has to deny like uh uh the adventure before deciding to go on it, you know. 00:45:12.639 --> 00:45:13.119 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:45:13.360 --> 00:45:14.960 And so it's like he kind of did that, you know. 00:45:15.039 --> 00:45:16.639 It's like it's like, no, I'm not gonna like do it. 00:45:16.719 --> 00:45:18.239 And then the second time it's yeah, I'll take the money. 00:45:18.320 --> 00:45:19.440 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:45:19.599 --> 00:45:23.920 I talked to my woman, she said I should make a decision, and it's like, and then it's like, oh, bad decision. 00:45:24.000 --> 00:45:27.280 Yeah, just it's like kind of like the point of no return. 00:45:27.440 --> 00:45:36.880 Um, like when you're talking about like the climax of a film or something, and it's like from this point on, things will never be the same, you know, and like so. 00:45:36.960 --> 00:45:44.320 When he took that money, you know, he he could have adverted all of the tragedy, but then the film would not have been as weird as it was. 00:45:44.400 --> 00:45:48.880 You know, he almost needed to do that so that all these things could unfold the way they did. 00:45:49.599 --> 00:45:57.519 If one thing about this movie, you probably could not have told if you predicted like five minutes into it where this is going, you probably are not gonna get it. 00:45:57.840 --> 00:45:59.119 No, yeah, that's one thing. 00:45:59.440 --> 00:46:00.960 It is devoid of anything traditional, right? 00:46:01.199 --> 00:46:04.639 Yeah, you cannot predict a lot of this stuff in this film, you know? 00:46:04.960 --> 00:46:17.679 Okay, also um uh the very, very, very strange um uh international threesome in the very beginning against a tree, which I I in the park, in the in broad daylight. 00:46:17.920 --> 00:46:23.679 In the freaking park, and it's like uh you're kind of like you're you're kind of shocked because you're like, does the movie look like this? 00:46:24.159 --> 00:46:36.639 It's like something wrong with my TV, and then it's like um uh a very strange dry humping type thing, as like, you know, and like uh just a weird kissing, as one dude's just off, like, you know, I guess standing guard. 00:46:36.719 --> 00:46:37.039 I don't know. 00:46:37.280 --> 00:46:37.599 Yeah, yeah. 00:46:38.079 --> 00:46:46.480 But uh that originally was supposed to be much

longer, and uh like uh originally when this is uh was rated, it was rated NC17. 00:46:46.719 --> 00:46:46.960 Wow. 00:46:47.360 --> 00:47:01.280 So there's a creepier aspect to it where um uh Bia Phillips, the uh like uh the I guess our main white lady protagonist, yes, um she uh like uh uh she's 19 when they're shooting this. 00:47:01.440 --> 00:47:01.599 Okay. 00:47:01.760 --> 00:47:04.480 But she's portraying someone who's probably younger because they're happy. 00:47:04.719 --> 00:47:05.599 Yeah, like high school or something. 00:47:05.840 --> 00:47:06.719 And so there's like an element. 00:47:08.960 --> 00:47:19.920 Yes, yeah, and also like uh believably, you know, it's like uh that girl probably will stay at that age for another like you know 10 years before you know just uh anything happens to her unless she has a horrible like you know, just drug problem. 00:47:20.079 --> 00:47:20.159 Right. 00:47:20.400 --> 00:47:24.320 So like that was the only reason that this would have actually been kind of a hard R. 00:47:24.400 --> 00:47:31.360 There's just like uh um some foul language in it, and like um even the uh the the gunshot, it's like uh uh uh you hear it, you don't really see it. 00:47:31.440 --> 00:47:33.199 There's no barely see some blood. 00:47:33.519 --> 00:47:40.079 If anything, what's kind of refreshing about watching a movie that's made around now is like it's not loaded with a bunch of bullshit visual effects, you know. 00:47:40.480 --> 00:47:40.880 That's right. 00:47:41.039 --> 00:47:41.599 That's true. 00:47:41.920 --> 00:47:51.599 Uh all these were actually shot on location, which is I say it's like um uh it looks bad despite being shot on location, but just a little bit of nipple action here. 00:47:51.679 --> 00:47:52.400 Yeah, no, you can't. 00:47:52.480 --> 00:47:59.039 You know what's crazy though too is um the most nudity was with the the DA son when he's like you know sleeping with those two ladies. 00:47:59.360 --> 00:48:00.000 Yes, exactly. 00:48:00.239 --> 00:48:02.159 That that is he's in a rap video. 00:48:02.239 --> 00:48:06.559 Yeah, you know, it's just I don't I a white boy and two black women right there. 00:48:06.639 --> 00:48:06.960 Yeah. 00:48:08.320 --> 00:48:10.079 Oh Oreo or no, he isn't Oreo. 00:48:10.480 --> 00:48:16.239 I was literally at I was watching this thinking, you know what, I'm gonna watch this at a coffee shop, right? 00:48:17.039 --> 00:48:21.440 I swear, and I have I have my headphones on, like I'm trying to, I'm trying to zone in. 00:48:21.519 --> 00:48:23.920 I'm like, man, I gotta lock in, I gotta watch this. 00:48:24.239 --> 00:48:29.039 First scene, you know, that you mentioned, you know, the these women, the threesome scene. 00:48:29.199 --> 00:48:31.440 I think it's on my laptop, huh? 00:48:31.679 --> 00:48:32.719 I think it's actually a foursome. 00:48:32.800 --> 00:48:33.920 I think the tree is involved. 00:48:34.159 --> 00:48:38.800 You know, it's like it's it's not consensual, but the tree has been pitched. 00:48:39.039 --> 00:48:43.840 You know, yeah, and I'm watching and I'm like, holy shit, what did that what did what did that even get me into? 00:48:43.920 --> 00:48:44.400 You know what I mean? 00:48:44.960 --> 00:48:49.760 And I'm watching this and people are walking by me and I'm like, oh shit, fast forward. 00:48:50.000 --> 00:48:56.559 You know, I had to skip through that because I was like, oh my god, I'm watching a porn in the coffee shop, like in public. 00:48:56.880 --> 00:49:05.039 And then um I was like, oh my god, I gotta, I gotta watch this on my cell phone or something, or like just so I fast-forwarded that part a little bit. 00:49:05.760 --> 00:49:09.440 Here's the thing, it'd be way worse if somebody's like, hey, are you watching black and white? 00:49:09.679 --> 00:49:10.960 What the fuck is wrong with you? 00:49:11.599 --> 00:49:12.000 Exactly. 00:49:12.239 --> 00:49:13.599 Watch porn like a regular person. 00:49:14.719 --> 00:49:16.719 It's like, you know, just am I supposed to jack it to this? 00:49:17.039 --> 00:49:24.159 And some friends, like, while I'm there, they came up to me, you know, and I'm here with my headphones like this, watching, and they're like, yo, what are you doing? 00:49:24.239 --> 00:49:25.920 You know, I'm like, yo, I gotta study up, man. 00:49:26.159 --> 00:49:26.960 I'm getting ready. 00:49:27.119 --> 00:49:28.320 I gotta watch this movie. 00:49:28.480 --> 00:49:29.440 And what movie is it? 00:49:29.519 --> 00:49:30.800 Oh, it's called Black and White. 00:49:30.960 --> 00:49:32.960 You've probably never heard of it, you know. 00:49:33.119 --> 00:49:36.320 Um, it has Method Man and uh Elijah Wood. 00:49:37.440 --> 00:49:39.760 Like it it's it it's it's so funny. 00:49:39.920 --> 00:49:41.440 Two years, and uh what do you call it? 00:49:41.519 --> 00:49:45.360 Elijah Wood will be in New Zealand, uh, you know, shooting three movies that will change his life forever. 00:49:45.440 --> 00:49:48.960 Yeah, however, it it it also probably typecasts him in in stuff, you know. 00:49:49.039 --> 00:49:51.920 Yeah, he's probably infantilized for his whole life. 00:49:52.079 --> 00:49:58.159 Well, and and right now he's kind of having a uh like a renaissance where he's playing the creepiest characters he can possibly be. 00:49:58.239 --> 00:49:58.400 Yeah. 00:49:58.559 --> 00:50:05.119 In the new Toxic Avenger, he plays like a uh I don't know, like a a hunchback who has like a uh a punk band. 00:50:05.199 --> 00:50:05.920 It's very interesting. 00:50:06.159 --> 00:50:06.400 Wow. 00:50:06.559 --> 00:50:08.559 But uh wait, he played the Toxic Avenger? 00:50:08.719 --> 00:50:10.880 No, um The Toxic Avenger is played by Peter Dinklage. 00:50:11.039 --> 00:50:13.920 Oh he is just a creepy little guy. 00:50:14.159 --> 00:50:14.960 Wow, okay. 00:50:15.039 --> 00:50:15.920 I gotta see this then. 00:50:16.000 --> 00:50:16.159 Okay. 00:50:16.320 --> 00:50:17.519 Oh, uh it was pretty good.

00:50:17.599 --> 00:50:21.199 It was on the shelf for several years because uh it couldn't pass a uh a rating. 00:50:21.280 --> 00:50:23.199 It would just uh they'd be like, it has to be X. 00:50:24.079 --> 00:50:24.960 This is messed up. 00:50:25.039 --> 00:50:27.840 Yeah, and uh like uh so uh it finally came out. 00:50:28.079 --> 00:50:29.360 Maybe you could watch on Hulu or something. 00:50:29.440 --> 00:50:33.840 It's just uh it I don't know, I would uh suggest people watch that. 00:50:34.000 --> 00:50:35.199 Maybe not watch black and white. 00:50:35.519 --> 00:50:42.639 But I also have a feeling there are people out there that watch this when it came out and they're like, God, is that movie just like does it exist? 00:50:42.800 --> 00:50:49.920 You know, just um there's this uh mini Ripperton song um called Inside Uh My Love. 00:50:50.320 --> 00:50:53.280 And uh it just uh I I I I had heard it when I was a child. 00:50:53.360 --> 00:51:02.000 I was like, that can't be a real song because it's the most innuendo-y thing of all time, you know, just uh and it's just like uh and then one day I heard it, I was like, oh no. 00:51:02.239 --> 00:51:05.360 And it's like that's that wasn't my imagination, that was real. 00:51:05.599 --> 00:51:21.360 And so like uh I'm I'm certain somebody has like just a traumatic memory of watching this, and then like could never find it again because I I I do think this is a this movie, it's kind of like the and I felt like when I made you watch it or uh sent it on to you and suggested it, it's it's like the the ring. 00:51:21.440 --> 00:51:24.000 Remember the the the the videotape that kills you? 00:51:24.079 --> 00:51:26.400 Yes, you know, it's like you put it in, the girl comes out of the TV. 00:51:26.480 --> 00:51:27.599 Yes, this is like that. 00:51:27.760 --> 00:51:28.000 Yes. 00:51:28.320 --> 00:51:29.280 I what is it? 00:51:29.360 --> 00:51:39.519 They don't sometimes like uh modern words give us something that we could actually like use well and uh crap, um explosive diarrhea parasite. 00:51:39.679 --> 00:51:40.000 There we go. 00:51:40.159 --> 00:51:45.599 It's like that might be perfectly used to describe this film, and it just did explosive diarrhea. 00:51:45.840 --> 00:51:54.320 I mean, and I didn't know we needed it, but you know, it just uh it it thank you so much for watching this damn movie, and also uh like uh helping me out with this episode. 00:51:54.559 --> 00:52:07.920 No, of course, it made it significantly easier than just you know, like it would have been so much uh what we say, Wu Tang history, and I'm I just uh not the type of person that can that can uh pull that out on like one episode for a podcast. 00:52:08.239 --> 00:52:10.320 Man, this was this is really fun, you know. 00:52:10.559 --> 00:52:20.639 Um I I didn't know that it was improvise, and that kind of makes me want to like give it some more points, maybe because there was some dialogue that was really entertaining. 00:52:20.800 --> 00:52:23.440 I thought Rayquan was pretty good in the film, you know. 00:52:23.760 --> 00:52:27.760 Well, and so it it's cast we can say it is cast well, yeah. 00:52:27.920 --> 00:52:32.880 And so like uh maybe maybe these people aren't aren't doing their best because they don't have the best material to be working with, right? 00:52:32.960 --> 00:52:35.679 It's like what are we there's like they were shooting in the dark almost, you know? 00:52:35.920 --> 00:52:37.199 And it's it's almost a shortcut. 00:52:37.360 --> 00:52:40.880 It's like you know, we're gonna cast Rayquan, and it's like, was he gonna be a tough dude? 00:52:40.960 --> 00:52:41.679 What do you think? 00:52:41.920 --> 00:52:44.320 You know, it's like is he gonna be the coolest guy ever? 00:52:44.480 --> 00:52:50.079 Yeah, and I just uh like I so I I I don't know, you you can give credit for for a lot of this movie. 00:52:50.159 --> 00:52:51.280 Like funny, man. 00:52:51.440 --> 00:52:52.559 Well, thanks for having me, bro. 00:52:52.800 --> 00:52:53.760 Also, it's an exercise. 00:52:53.840 --> 00:52:59.760 It would be fun to be like, you know, you you collect this amount of people, and it's like, okay, it doesn't matter in two weeks, we're done shooting. 00:53:00.239 --> 00:53:00.639 Yeah, right. 00:53:01.360 --> 00:53:02.239 Whatever happens, yeah. 00:53:02.320 --> 00:53:06.159 No, it's like you can't screw this up, but also I don't think like I think the ceiling is pretty low. 00:53:06.239 --> 00:53:10.880 So, you know, just uh like that thank you so much for for help helping me out on this. 00:53:10.960 --> 00:53:13.199 The next time I promise I'll have you on a better movie, all right? 00:53:13.440 --> 00:53:15.039 Yeah, I look forward to it, man. 00:53:15.199 --> 00:53:15.760 Let me know. 00:53:15.920 --> 00:53:26.320 Yo, but if you're somebody who is like a Wu Tang fanatic and you're trying to like consume and find things that they've been a part of, this is one you probably should want to check out. 00:53:26.480 --> 00:53:32.639 Just just just for the sake of knowing that you saw these cats and this random movie, you know, for sure. 00:53:33.039 --> 00:53:36.000 You'd just think maybe afterwards watch Ghost Dog Way of the samurai. 00:53:36.239 --> 00:53:40.960 Because uh like even the Rizza has like a little cameo performance where he comes in as a samurai. 00:53:41.039 --> 00:53:41.199 Yeah. 00:53:41.360 --> 00:53:44.400 It's like that's why I say sometimes the Rizza's kind of a nerd. 00:53:44.480 --> 00:53:46.639 It's like it's like he's definitely a nerd, man. 00:53:46.800 --> 00:53:47.679 He gotta be. 00:53:48.000 --> 00:53:49.039 He gotta be, man. 00:53:49.119 --> 00:54:01.039 I I've been I've been a huge fan of the Wu forever, and I know we're on our way out, but um, sometimes when I see the RISA today and I see some of his, you know, all due respect to the abbot, like some of his outfits and shit. 00:54:01.360 --> 00:54:03.599 I'm like, this guy is a nerd for sure. 00:54:03.920 --> 00:54:05.360 He's still a nerd, you know what I mean? 00:54:05.440 --> 00:54:08.079 A brilliant nerd, but yeah, man, love the RISA. 00:54:09.119 --> 00:54:13.119 At some point, your success allows you to be, you know, uh eccentric in that level. 00:54:13.280 --> 00:54:14.000 So exactly. 00:54:14.159 --> 00:54:15.519 Like he's earned it definitely. 00:54:16.239 --> 00:54:17.760 Rob, thank you so much for joining me. 00:54:17.840 --> 00:54:19.599 Everyone has been screaming the RISA. 00:54:19.840 --> 00:54:21.360 Yeah, there we go, man. 00:54:36.480 --> 00:54:42.719 If you'd like to hear more from Rob or need a lesson in song composition, I cannot suggest checking out Rap Seminar enough. 00:54:42.880 --> 00:54:50.480 The man is an educator, artist, activist, aggressive inline skater, and he did not need to do this, so I wanted to thank him. 00:54:50.800 --> 00:54:54.960 One final word of business I would like to introduce the concept of Londoning. 00:54:55.760 --> 00:55:02.079 This isn't official industry terminology, it's a phenomenon in Hollywood like the El Nino of casting. 00:55:02.320 --> 00:55:07.920 When actors choose multiple projects in the same year together, the namesake is for my favorite example. 00:55:08.320 --> 00:55:14.480 In 2004, Chris Evans, Jason Statham, and Jessica Beale shoot the action flick Cellular. 00:55:14.800 --> 00:55:17.840 And the cocaine bathroom drama London. 00:55:18.159 --> 00:55:26.800 Scott Kahn and William Lee Scott are in black and white, and they are both in Giovanni Borubisi's crew and gone in 60 seconds. 00:55:27.199 --> 00:55:30.159 Shot in 1999, released in 2000. 00:55:30.400 --> 00:55:38.639 For anyone interested, I do have to say, during my uh interview, I noticed my speech impediment was incredibly prevalent. 00:55:38.960 --> 00:55:45.679 I think far faster than I can speak, especially when I'm excited, and I had a great time talking about the strange movie with my friend. 00:55:45.920 --> 00:55:52.239 The next episode is Time Code, and it's also a Londoning situation, but you need to wait a week for that. 00:55:52.400 --> 00:55:53.840 So hit the trailer. 00:55:54.239 --> 00:55:55.920 I haven't had that before. 00:55:56.400 --> 00:55:57.519 I'm sorry, I'm late. 00:55:58.000 --> 00:55:59.280 You're a fool. 00:56:00.159 --> 00:56:00.480 That's it. 00:56:00.880 --> 00:56:01.519 That's the card. 00:56:02.159 --> 00:56:06.719 Otherwise, it's a professional. 00:56:25.599 --> 00:56:27.920 Technology has arrived. 00:56:29.519 --> 00:56:32.079 Digital video has arrived. 00:56:33.119 --> 00:56:40.559 For the first time a film shot in real time, it's time to move forward. 00:56:43.599 --> 00:56:46.559 My name is Evan Hughes, and thank you for listening to Screen Generation.