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you later. Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: Jeez, that's dark. Eftn Chism: So that that popped in my head. I was like, I can't go out right now. Franz: What do you do in that case? Like, does the restaurant comp everyone's meal? And like, you gotta get everyone out of there? Like, I don't I'm just being serious. Like, I've never been in a situation like that. Eftn Chism: I have no idea. I have no idea. Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: I I am CPR certified, so it would have went down different if I was there. Mark Wahlberg. I had to get it done for coaching. It was required. Eftn Chism: I need to get that done. That's that's yeah, I I think that Franz: Are we coaching again this year, Mike? Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: Yeah, I got asked back. They said Eftn Chism: Go. Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: we really like you in the developmental league. We're gonna need you back. Franz: Wow. You're the Adam Equate of CM hockey. Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: I just had to fill out we have like I don't I don't wanna c call it orientation or something, but some like coaches meeting or something coming up and we had to fill out this like this it it it the best way I could describe it, it was an online course that you had to fill out like the reason you coach, what kind of coach you are, what kind of person you are. what you like look forward to and like teaching the kids and everything. And I was just like thinking, like, do all coaches have to do that now? Like what it it just seems so different from like when even we were in high school, you know? Like there I Eftn Chism: Just Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: feel like there's so many more rules and hoops to jump through and everything. Like I don't know, it just it just seems different. Did your guys' coaches ever have to do like something like that? Franz: Not that I know of. I know like like I think it's crazy you gotta get like USA hockey certified to coach in like youth hockey and stuff. I think that's nuts. But Eftn Chism: I don't I don't I don't I don't dislike that rule. just because I think there's a lot of idiots out there that like it Franz: True. Eftn Chism: might deter them from coaching. I think my biggest Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: Mm-hmm. Eftn Chism: thing is you have to wear a helmet on the ice, like or adults. You can you you can buzz out there a little bit. Franz: No, no, B camp. I'm on I'm on the other side. If I'm coaching like little kids, a bucket's on. They're d buzzing around the ice. I've seen like come like clip the back of your skates. You go down, you crack your bean, like I'm putting a bucket on when when there's little kids on the ice for sure. Eftn Chism: Speaking of cracked beans, Brock Faber. That is a Franz: I know. Eftn Chism: crazy situation. Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: Certified cracked bean. Eftn Chism: Yeah, and I I heard the Minnesota Wild aren't even telling the whole story on it. I guess it's worse than they even anticipated. Franz: Well he went back out on the

ice. Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: What's the what's the advantage of not telling the full story? Eftn Chism: I have no idea. No idea. Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: Privacy for him, maybe? Eftn Chism: Yeah, maybe. But that's that's a scary situation. That's Franz: I'm well I mean he's kinda nails though. He was like back out on the ice and his skull was just fractured. Eftn Chism: Which is even scarier. Maybe that's why they're maybe that's why they're they're not being upfront about it because they're they're kind of liable in that situation. They didn't have the they didn't Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: Yeah. They don't want to get sued. Right. Franz: No, true. Eftn Chism: they didn't pull out the blue tent. Franz: Well, also remember it was the Minnesota Wild like medical staff with the McAvoy thing in the Four Nations and the shoulder. So I don't know, maybe like they're they're just the JV staff or something, they clearly not upper echelon. Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: That's a good point, Dave. I didn't even connect that. Eftn Chism: What do you got like Franz: Yeah. Eftn Chism: a gnarly infection, right? Franz: Yeah, like like Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: He almost died. Franz: it's like life threatening. Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: They had to put him at at Mass General for like three nights. I could've just completely made that that timeline up. But he wa he Franz: No, he was there for a couple of nights. Eftn Chism: No I no, that sounds like Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: he was doing some overnights at Mass General for sure. Got infected. Eftn Chism: Was that the was that the time that was like the situation where his kid was in the hospital at the same time? Right? Wasn't that? Okay. Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: I think it was com compounding events. Like I think it happened. Like he got hit with a shot. Yeah. Eftn Chism: no, that was the teeth the the teeth. The the the leaven missing missing teeth. Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: Yeah. That happened. Franz: That poor guy had a hell of a year. Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: The his kid got sick and then he got the arm thing. And then I think his kid got sick again, like just what a terrible year. Eftn Chism: My God. Franz: Just dog Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: Nail gun. Franz: shit. Eftn Chism: Nail gun. Franz: Yeah, I feel bad. Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: We're big we're big Chucky Mac fans. Looking forward to him getting back on the ice, honestly. Franz: By God, do they need him back? Eftn Chism: Yeah, they're Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: I I g kind of a hot take here for you guys. I mean, they're keeping their heads above water without Five hundred right now. Five hundred well, yeah, five hundred. I mean Eftn Chism: I don't disagree with that. I don't disagree with that. Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: could be in worse places. Franz: I mean you do what you gotta do. Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: I was looking at the standings before too, because when I feel like

when Bruins Nation woke up this morning it was pretty doom and gloom. as we do. we like to call in, you know, call off the season. early and you know, try to throw sweaters on the ice by game five. But what if I told you that the bees are actually in third place, tied for third place in the league right now? What would you say to that? Eftn Chism: Take that any day of the week. Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: Granted it's tied with thirteen other teams, but Franz: Who cares? Eftn Chism: That's okay. Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: with they don't ask how, they ask how many. So I mean we could Eftn Chism: We could be the Flyers. The Flyers are off to an abysmal start. Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: we could be the Leafs, we could be the Flyers. Eftn Chism: Gonna be the Leafs. And they're and the the Leafs are already, already putting the pressure on Gavin McKenna, the optional skate. Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: Crazy. Crazy. Franz: And and Kuzmenko or whatever the hell is no Marchenko, the Oko Oko's whatever. Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: That's B Cam's boy. Franz: Yeah. They said he's good, not great. The guy's played three Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: Yeah. Franz: games. Eftn Chism: Yeah, th Dave, you you made such a good point on the last podcast about the media component of him going there. I it's something that I didn't really put two and two together until you said it. He's in for one. Franz: Dude, watch how fast he checks out. Eftn Chism: Holy cow. And they paid Franz: I mean he's making fifteen sheets a year next year though. So like I you you can put up with some nonsense for fifteen sheets. Eftn Chism: Yeah. But I mean that was I mean, Gavin McKenna's eighteen years old. And you know that you know that podcast guy like Sid Sis Cesario or something? He Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: Yeah. Eftn Chism: was laying into McKenna. He's like Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: Crazy. Eftn Chism: he's like he's like you're he's like you're eighteen Franz: Keyboard warrior. Eftn Chism: years old and you and you need you you you're worrying about your body? You're eighteen years old. Get out there. It they are already unraveling. They're unraveling Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: Crazy. He looks like a street meat vendor too, the guy making these comments. Eftn Chism: He does. He they are unraveling by the minute right now, and it's unbelievable to watch. Franz: Like it it breaks my brain. Like what do you expect of I mean, let's let let's call us Bait a Spade, like Boston sports fans are still like few cards short of a full deck, like we listen to Felger and Maz and those clowns like consistently and just hear the horrible takes they have. But like the Leafs fans are on a whole nother level. Eftn Chism: These are independent podcasts that we're talking about, though. Felgar and Mass are doing a job. Although although Franz: True, yeah. Eftn Chism: annoying, like this guy Sid has his own production. Like he's just doing this on his own volition. No one's given him the script and saying, hey, flip out on McKenna. Like, they are genuinely mad about him skipping an optional skate. It is it is unbelievably hilarious Franz: It's like who cares? Eftn Chism: to watch because they're gonna like they're gonna they're gonna burn this kid. In his first year. Because I was thinking the other night watching Hagins play. Hagens is nineteen years old. And he and I know there's a lot of chatter about his game. I like what I see. I I I gotta be honest with you. I like what I see. He's quick, he's fast, he's making quick decisions. he's confident with the puck. He's on the power play, which is not an easy spot to be in your first year at nineteen. And I'm sure you I don't know if you guys turned the game off last night. He's getting a little chippy out there. I love it. Giving a couple shots, letting people know he's there, not one to fuck with. I really like what I see in the first four games. Franz: yeah, a hundred percent. Like I think we need to understand that this is his first cup of tea, like cup of coffee on the NHL. And it's we're not gonna see the James Hagens that was running hockey for like the last year, two years, whatever it is. It's gonna take a bit of a learning curve and he's gonna get some matchups or whatever, but I mean w you can't be disappointed in And how he's shown up the first four games. Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: No, absolutely. And Franz: At all. Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: I don't I don't know if so obviously we watched the Ottawa game. If you're listening, was two nights ago, but for us it was last night. he had a horrible turnover and it led directly to a go like a laughable turnover. but one thing I liked was, you know, as w Bees fans, we're hardwired to kind of think All right, see ya, buddy. Like, enjoy the bench the rest of the game. Like, maybe see you down in Providence for a couple days. He was right back out there the next shift. Like, he did not miss any ice time or anything. And even after the game, Marco was talking to the media and he said, you know, I I can't get mad at James for that. Like he he's a kid, he's gonna make those mistakes. It's about how he responds. And he talked more so about like his leaders on the team and they have to pull their weight and like they have to be there for James to pick him up and everything. So I just thought it was kind of crazy to see. but really spoke to like how Marco is trying to develop the kids and everything and give them a longer leash. And it's just something that we're not accustomed to see seeing as Bees fans. But I I loved it. I loved what Marco had to say to the media. Franz: Hey, I'm I'm all here for that. Honestly, it's on it's a it's breath of fresh air, if we're being realistic, right? Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: Hundred percent. Franz: Because that's how these guys like, yes, NHL is not a developmental league. You'll hear that on every podcast by every coach ever, right now, but it you need to make

mistakes. And a guy who plays that style is going to take chances and there's going to kind of be, I'm not gonna call them hope hockey plays, but like softer plays that he's just gonna have to kind of work out of his game. Right. Like those are gonna have to be hard plays. Like he should like that puck should have gone in, should have got deep, right? Soft little back hit and ends up going down the other way, whatever. But I mean, for hit Marco to kind of put the onus on the leaders and like possi even coming out saying, like, I need to be better and start like driving and like taking accountability, like it's kind of where we need to be at this stage. Eftn Chism: Mm-hmm. Yeah. I I I Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: Yeah. And it he dude, Hagen's is gonna be so much better for that too. Like you hear we're not we're not crossing sports here 'cause we're a Bruins podcast, but you hear Vrabel talk about it all the time when when young guys make mistakes, it's like they're gonna get better from this. They're just gonna learn and and keep doing the right things and get those habits out and practice and just be better. So I think it's it's great that he he's getting sent right back out there, his opportunities aren't getting cut and his leash is pretty long. Franz: Well, and we're kind of bearing the lead too here. We're jumping around a little bit. Like, so we're four games in. Two they beat the Rangers 3 0. Then a nice win in Winnipeg. Haggins gets on the board for first NHL goal. Great to see. Kind of a gritty win, right? Battling back. And then a tough game against the wild. I mean, except for Mikey D, like he looked good in that man. Like like that was a bright spot there. And then obviously the Sentins game last night dropping it four one back to back games four one. So like Eftn Chism: Damn. Franz: Again, five hundred two and two, but like there were some bright spots, right? As long as we don't go streaking too far one way and too far the other way, similar to kind of last year. Like there were some bright spots. And I wanted to get your guys' take on on on Mikey D between the pipes, because if he wasn't in between the pipes that game, that game could have been easily eight to one. Eftn Chism: Well, I I mean the the score wasn't an accurate depiction of the actual game itself. Mike and I talked about it on Sunday at your house. I th I actually thought the Bruins played a fairly good game. I I don't think it was it wasn't a four to one game. I d DPHO played really well. And but on the other side, Wallstead, the goalie for Minnesota played spectacular. I mean that game could have Franz: The wall of St. Paul. Eftn Chism: that g that game could have been tied up very easily. I mean the Spurgeon goal coming down the wing, I think just I think it was Maybe like screened a little bit, wasn't anticipating going that short side high. But I mean, like that that game, five on five, they actually looked pretty well, pretty good and they they matched their speed. And I was thinking to myself, this is a good test for them to to see one of the better teams in the league and see how they they match up early on in the season. And I think it was one of those games where they walk away and they're like, Okay, we can compete with teams like the Minnesota Wilds because the next time they see them, if they see them again this year, I think it's gonna be a different game. And I I Quinn side note, Quinn Hughes is a problem. He's a complete issue. he Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: Disgusting. Franz: Major issue. Eftn Chism: he he just every time he touches the puck, there's a scoring opportunity. He gets it in the offensive zone. He did you see him make Hagans almost go like full 200 feet into the boards on a quick little That's a welcome to the NHL moment. Franz: Haggins is still sliding. He slid all the way back to Boston for for the game against Ottawa. Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: Yeah. Eftn Chism: That's that was that was hard to watch, but I I get why it happened. that would happen with like ninety nine percent of NHL players on that move. But wasn't I wasn't super upset about that Minnesota Wild game. And even even the game last night, yeah, they the the power play, we can get into that later on. But outside of those the couple mistakes off the get off the rip, they it was a up and down game. Ottawa's not that good. And they played well five on five. They just make stupid mistakes and they have to pay for them. And if they don't put the puck in the net and match the scoring then We're gonna get blown out some of these games. Franz: I had some crazy thoughts watching that Ottawa game, other w like other than wanting to throw up with like the lack of effort kind of from the get go. Could you see Timmy Stew in a Bruins jersey? Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: Well yes. He's German. Franz: Doss Bruant. Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: The Luftwaffe. The Boston Luftwaffe. Eftn Chism: Yeah, they're not gonna they're not like that, so Franz: Like, I don't know, I was getting some crazy thoughts. Eftn Chism: He's not going anywhere. Franz: Hello. Eftn Chism: He's not built anywhere. No chance. They they have some dudes on that team. Not gonna lie. I mean, they got Shabbat, they got Pinto, they him. that that that kid holiday Franz: Sanderson, who was out. Eftn Chism: Holiday, that huge forward thirty four, he's a rookie or or just maybe one year in, nasty. Franz: They had that rookie D who looked good too, who was running that power play. the Russian kid. I d I don't remember his name. Eftn Chism: okay. Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: They also had a huge defenseman, number thirty something, wearing the forty five hundred. He looks like he's been in the league Eftn Chism: Thirty three. Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: for he he looks like Franz: that Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: he's been in the league for twenty five years. Eftn Chism: Yeah. Franz: That guy drives me nuts for some reason. He was on Gavin

Mackenna's Optional Sk8: He he was driving me nuts too. I don't Eftn Chism: Yeah. Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: know why. He's just getting in the way of everything. you just eat Franz: He just like has that look, you just wanna punch him in the face. Like for w Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: your lunch though. Franz: whatever reason. Eftn Chism: I'm I'm Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: I do wanna I wanna go back to sorry, B Cam, the D Pietro at Minnesota. tough spot for him to get put in as well. Like second night of the back to back, Winnipeg, tough game, OT the night before, and then Minnesota, like eight PM start, not a usual start time. Minnesota's a wagon, like that's tough. And then they just go and take penalties too and just Kinda hang him out to dry it. Not ideal for the team to play in front of him, but I'm in encouraged by by what we saw though. I I think if he gets probably thirty-five to thirty-eight starts this year, they're gonna be in good shape. Eftn Chism: And shout out Zodorov 2,000 Pimps. Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: Huge. Huge for piss and Eftn Chism: Great. I love it. Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: vinegar. Haven't seen much piss and vinegar talk this this year. Eftn Chism: Yeah. I know I I he even said he had a long quote after the game yesterday 'cause I watched up until the final period because Hagen's potted one like fifteen to go in the third and they had a little Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: Uh-huh. Eftn Chism: bit of momentum. I I was thinking maybe a comeback, but Zodorov was talking a lot about just like getting back to being physical and whatnot. And he he was running around like a maniac at the end of the game. He put cousins so f so fast into the boards. that I thought he was gonna be like spatula it off there. and then he threw the the quick little jab at him too on the ground. It was so good. Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: The the punch was all time. It looked like a video game. Franz: Unbelievable clip. Eftn Chism: And and like Hagen's is getting into it with I think it was Zetterberg, whatever his name is. There was a there was a lot of little Zetlit, yeah. Franz: Is that Ireland? Eftn Chism: there there was a lot of little scrums. I I am still always stunned when other teams challenge Jano and or Zodorov. Those are Maybe two of the top five guys you just are not messing with. The number one guy is that guy, Tyrell Bauer, out in Winnipeg. Holy cow. Can Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: my God. Franz: That's a dude. Eftn Chism: he chuck them? So I those are those are there's some guys in the list that you're like, hey, they're out in the ice, just be kind of aware that they're out there. And I I would put Zanorov and Jano in that category because a couple of guys were maybe going to answer the bell to Janot. I don't maybe they don't, maybe they're not aware. But he'll knock your block off quickly. Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: Seriously. Franz: That's it, yeah, that's a dude you don't want to mess with. I mean, the bees have some meat. Like we said it last year, and we'll say like kind of return to the same group, like they have some meat you don't want to mess around with. Eftn Chism: Yeah. Franz: Like dudes aren't afraid to chuck up and down the lineup. And speaking Eftn Chism: No. Franz: speaking of up and down the lineup and ins and outs, we're talking about guys getting another chance. When Pachra took that penalty last night on the PK, our group text went off. See ya, Potzi. See ya, have fun and improv. I feel bad for this kid, honestly, but like w where do we go from here? 'Cause this is another prime example of so like we praise the Bruins, but then we kinda have to knock him, right? Jim like Jimmy Higgins, horrible turnover, throw him back out there, right? Like kind of feed him, but he's I would say he's a different pedigree than Pacha, right? You got Pacha playing fourth line minutes, like with a couple of grind shows and like dudes who are good at their job. Like how how do you accurately assess how he's gonna stack up? Like you got to pull Elias out and put him in that spot and see how he does, right? Like you you need you're not putting him in a position to be successful to best use his skill set, in my opinion. I could be way off, but like call me crazy, call me like you guys got to help me out on this one. Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: Yeah. Eftn Chism: I don't yeah, I'm I'm not entirely sure. I I still have a my gut feeling is still that he's gonna get traded. I I I don't really see him fitting into this lineup. He's not gonna fare well on the fourth line. although Jano Jano looks really good from what he is on this team. He he has that skill. And I mean Caslick leads the team in points right now. So those two are those two are pulling their Franz: Nick Nicholas. Eftn Chism: their weight right now, literally and figuratively. And but He's not the he's not the best option for center there. I think we can all agree there. I I'm really still surprised by the whole Easy Mont thing. I maybe I'm watching a different game. I I really like Easy Mont's game, but they just don't see it. So what's the option? Is it you just slide Corale back in there? I j I think we're all in agreement that that's not the best decision. Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: Yeah, and I don't think the Bees know what they want Potra to be. Because that it's a great point, Dave. Take Elias out and slide him in there, but they'll never do that. And I mean I called into ninety eighty five the hockey show to explain my disdain for Sean Corale and how I've had enough. Because he he literally I think it was not the Rangers game. Who'd they play after the Rangers? The Winnipeg game. came over the blue line and it looked like he was playing like it in at Brocktrink at eleven PM on a Wednesday night and with the men's league shot. It was nuts. Completely nuts. And I like, what do you do with him? I he shouldn't be on the fourth line. Corale shouldn't, Pachra shouldn't be

there either. Like they they don't know what to do with that spot. And it's an important spot 'cause your wingers are absolutely showing up and and bringing it every single night. So I don't know what they do at that spot, but yeah. Franz: Well then sorry Mike to cut you off there, but like on all Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: I was done. Franz: right, I'll carry on. but like put Elias in that spot. Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: I actually think he would be good there. He's slow. He's slow enough. Franz: No, like he's sl but he's serviceable, he can dish the Eftn Chism: He's not gonna like that. Franz: puck, like have those guys be dogs, he hangs out in the high slot, like pick it off here or there, like cash in on a c couple of Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: Or just just be responsible in the D zone too. Like he he's Elias is responsible in the D zone. Franz: Like, I don't know why they're so hell bent on having him be the one C on this team. Like, I d I j I just don't see it. Like, there's no effort watching him skate, watching him on the power play, like you just want to rip your eyes out. I don't know. Like maybe Eftn Chism: Why is he? Franz: maybe we're being too hard on this. This guy's in the NHL, obviously. He's he he's earned the right to be there and everything, but like maybe we're just being like too hard, too biased, but I don't know, man. Eftn Chism: I mean if we're staying on that same category, I feel really bad, but I I don't know how you consistently play Hampus Linholm thir twenty minutes a night. I don't I don't I don't know how you do it. I don't really know what the other option is. That's the other thing. So he's obviously gonna stay in the lineup. But he had a bath salts game on site. That was complete bath salts. there was a couple of plays where you can see it in his game where the panic button kind of sets in and all the limbs just kind of wiggle around and he starts Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: He hits all the buttons. Eftn Chism: falling Yeah, it's like he's falling into people and I did you did you see the play behind the net when Swaman stopped the puck and he came back to corral it and he threw it somehow into the guy that was coming. And then he was also part of the other behind the net play where he just couldn't get it up the wall. They came around, they scored from there. He had he had a really, really, really tough game. And He's an assistant captain. He's part of the leadership crew. He's making he he's making fairly good money comparative compared to what the the cap is going to be and growing, whatever. But there's got to be something wrong. There has to be a lingering injury, something that's not right. He he's he even his decision making is a little tentative. And I feel bad because I I like I like Campus Lindholm. I just don't know what you do. Can't be on the power play either. Cannot be on the. Franz: cannot be on the power play. You know what you do? You do what you do with the other Linho. You either slide him down or pull him out. Cause you got Brunei, you got Laura. I I thought Brune in his debut look he just he looked good. He just needs a little more confidence, I think, and that's gonna come with time. Like he looked Eftn Chism: Played well. Franz: a little shaky in in certain times handling the puck. But overall I thought he looked good. You have him run a power play, not Hampus, because that's what that kid does. And you Either slide Hampus down or pull him out and you have you have Lorai, you have Zodorov and you have Brunei on the left side, then you have McAvoy, Borgan and Clifton on the right. And that and that's what you roll with. Eftn Chism: I I I I've been impressed by Borgan. to the extent of that he just kind of makes the simple plays, never really out of position. Yeah, Franz: To what you need. Eftn Chism: I think he's been great. D Cor definitely is is a little scary. There's a lot of hope passes out there that don't really go anywhere. the power play breakout, they g just they gotta get rid of it. Franz: Abysmal. Eftn Chism: They have to get rid of it. They don't that That play was designed for Patrick Kane. We don't have Patrick Kane. So we need to find another option. And I'm a big chip in and go get a guy. I I know that's you I know you want to possess the puck and you want control of it, whatever. I think you just get repetition in there. Just keep firing it back there and put pressure on them. Two, three guys on the puck, come out with it. Everything's broken. You don't have you don't get time to people to to set up their PK. I that's how I think they should run it. They're never gonna run it that way, ever. so I Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: Okay. Eftn Chism: I'll let you guys jump in on the power play as a whole, but I I know that that's a sensitive subject for all Bruins Nation right now. It's it's crazy to watch. Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: It it dude, it's it's really terrible. It really is. It's awful to watch. That specific play, Low Rye was rushing up, and I think because he's so big and I mean he's not it's not like he's a slow player, but when he got to the blue line and he did his C curl to pass it back, it looked like a battleship turning and it was just so slow. And so telegraphed, I wanted to just rip my eyeballs out and throw them at the TV. It was awful to watch. But yeah, the power play has just been terrible. And one bright spot that that I think I saw from it was Freddie Brunei on it when when it was kind of garbage time and they let him out there. I I really like how he handles the puck. Like the way he passes, it it's you can see like just in his movement that he's got some good touch on it, you know? Like he's got some good skill there. And it's I I thought he had a great debut overall. Again, team kinda didn't show up for him like, you know, same thing they they did for DPHR, where they just kind of went I was gonna use a word, but I'm not gonna use the word. they just went cockeyed

and started getting a bunch of penalties and it just again hung the rest of the guys out to dry. So I'd like to see these guys get a better shake at it, you know, when everybody comes to play, not just not just the newbies. Franz: Yeah. And I don't know, maybe the shortened preseason has something to do with it where guys are still getting the kinks out and everything, right? It's it's it's new to everyone, Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: Probably. Franz: not to make excuses or what have you. And you gotta think, right, like spotter's a a PP guy. He's gotta have something up his sleeve, mix up some units, right? It's still early. We're not Toronto fans, we're not Toronto media. We're not gonna hit the panic button just yet, right? Like ill come, it's just ugly. And it's just growing pains, right? Where you get a new look, you get a guy like Peterka who I really like the kid's game. Like he's looked awesome. And Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: Wheels. Franz: what a massive upgrade, in my opinion, from Ardwoodson, right? And Eftn Chism: Yeah. Franz: and like a a little more finish on Peterka, in my opinion. Just a little more, right? Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: You mean chairman? Franz: A little more German in my opinion. And man, right. Like he's had a couple opportunities too that he could have just bared down and buried. Could have changed a couple outcomes, right? Great fit in the lineup. Great, great fit. Eftn Chism: But you can't remove him with Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: No complaints. Eftn Chism: pasta. They have Franz: No. Eftn Chism: to play together. They play well together. They they think the same way. You can't I'm not a big proponent of shuffling the lines mid game. I don't like it. You never really create the chemistry. I you have to leave those two together. Those are your two best players, bar none. And then a guy that's playing a little hide and seek right now is is our boy Koudini. a little slow to the jump right now. I I'm still confident he'll get out there, but Franz: He's looked good though, he's consistent. Like you know what you're gonna get out of that guy. Eftn Chism: Yeah, he's not he's not making he's not making dumb plays, which is like part of the major part of the issue, but he's definitely playing a little hide and seek right now. And I j I just wanna see he he's like a big piece of this pie that we need to go if we if we wanna make the playoffs. Franz: Yeah. Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: He's not alone either with with the hide and seek game. I mean, you got some of your big dogs too. You got Sokka, who's it's a contract year for him. So, you Eftn Chism: Yes. Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: know, I I was tweeting early on like he had six grade A's, all for six on grade A's through three games. didn't really capture how many he had last night, but you got Zaka with Burger, Geeky, Burger, a couple good chances too, Houdini. Middlestad is just burgers across the board. He's he looks like Buffalo Middlestad. I don't know what's going on with him. But yeah, we've they they they got some some room to grow. Eftn Chism: Don't I don't mind I don't mind his game. I don't mind his game. I burgers is tough through four games. Even just a secondary would be nice. I I'm I'm still a little stunned by Geeky's game. I think he's still trying to play like a different type of game than what got him to the last two seasons. not really moving his feet as much. That's what I just keep seeing. Franz: Yep. Seems like he lost a step. Eftn Chism: Yeah, I don't I but I I think that he just needs to be put in the right situation. Put speed around him, let him get into the soft areas and just let him shoot the puck. He's got a heavy shot. He he's ripped iron twice now in four games. so I I I think he just needs to be with the right guys, and they're not doing Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: Gut reaction for you guys. How old is Morgan Geeky without looking? Eftn Chism: I think it's like twenty-eight, twenty-seven. Franz: I would say twenty nine. Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: Yeah. And he's twenty eight. So spot on for you guys. how about I want to ask you guys another what's your worry meter for someone who's not putting up that many points? Newly named captain David Posternock, zero goals, two assists. I thought last night would have been the Eftn Chism: I know. Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: game. He he he he pots one. put a little DraftKings Franz: I'm not worried. Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: wager on it. I'm not worried either, but I mean, let's go, buddy. Fucking bury one. Eftn Chism: I know. I know. It's tough it's tough. 'Cause like he he is playing although the score b the score sheet isn't showing he is playing well, but he he's definitely more pass first than I've ever seen him ever. Franz: There are a few opportunities where he's he's dished it and it's like, dude, rip the pill. Eftn Chism: Yeah. I I and Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: Mm-hmm. Eftn Chism: not not the same player, but there was a play I th either last night or the game before. Clifton was Broadway. Broadway with no one in front of him and he he opted for the for the the side the side pass to postor off the dot. tough to watch. It was it was tough to watch. I I actually do think Clifton's Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: Yeah. Eftn Chism: I actually think Clifton's been playing well. so I Franz: I agree. Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: He's he's dude, he's been logging some serious ice time too. Yeah. Eftn Chism: Yeah. He's been playing well. So I'm not gonna give any grip to him. I I understand his thought process in that moment, but he yeah, a hundred percent. Franz: You'd probably also defer to pasta if he was I yeah. Eftn Chism: I want him to rip the biscuit though. I want people to have the confidence to like if they have an open lane, shoot the puck. But I think Pasta will get going. I just think that they need to just settle on on shuffling the lines. I understand last night was a shit show. Got

it, whatever, but Just leave the lines, build some chemistry. Let let's let's play it out all three periods. Let's see how that they end up. After that we can shuffle, but just take a breath. Take a beat. Franz: Do we hammer Pasta any time goal scorer for the neck like for the foreseeable future? Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: I I think you just keep stacking it, right? Like l Eftn Chism: I know. Yep. Yep. Franz: You have to. Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: literally the what's the Mark Wahlberg movie, The Gambler or something, where he just keeps he just keeps stacking his losses. I think it's like Gambling Man or something. He's putting like five Eftn Chism: Yeah, I know which one you're talking about. Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: hundred thousand dollars on like black and it wins and he's like, I gotta do a million. I don't know what it is, but I maybe we do maybe we have to do that with pasta. Franz: Like w we have to keep parlaying it and just keep hammering it. Because it's he's Eftn Chism: Yeah. Franz: he's gonna break the dam. Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: Eventually. Eftn Chism: How quickly do you see Lach Mellas getting called up to slide slide in on that fourth line spot? Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: Not quick, in my Eftn Chism: No. Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: opinion. Franz: I just don't know what you do, right? Like is it this like what happens with Patra, Corale? Like maybe an injury gets called up, you know? That's the thing. Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: How long of a runway do we have for Patra? How many games does he get, do you think? Franz: Ten. Eftn Chism: Yeah. I don't know. I f I feel really Franz: Got reaction ten. Eftn Chism: b I feel really bad for that kid. Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: When he got the penalty th like you could just see the look on his face. Like he knew. It's like he knew I'm I'm going to Shanghai to play the Shanghai Chinese Tigers. Eftn Chism: And it it wasn't even a tr it wasn't even a trip either. The guy just kinda ate shit. He didn't even didn't even really touch his skate. So I felt bad for him. they killed off the Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: Yeah. Eftn Chism: the the pelicill and but thought we were getting some momentum. Judd was Judd was losing his mind on the broadcast, but Franz: Judd had me the other day calling during the wild game. He he was losing a he wa he had a senile moment. He was calling Koudini Caprizov going down the wing. I was like, not that the bee's got Caprizov. This is unbelievable. I was Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: I was getting so confused about that. Franz: like, What the he I was like, God, I didn't take a gummy or anything tonight. Like, what's going on? Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: I thought my TV was on a delay. Eftn Chism: Ha ha. Hmm. Franz: I was like, we're like, I'm pretty good watching this game right now. I don't know what's good. but I mean the bees coming up here. Today's the sixth, eighth, tenth, thirteenth, sixteenth. The mammoth, the flyers, the sharks, and the ducks coming up here. They're kind of in the meat grinder. I'm excited Eftn Chism: And Franz: to watch the mammoth play. Eftn Chism: are they already out west? Franz: they are the thirteenth and the sixteenth. The thirteenth boys against the sharks. Ten thirty PM Eftn Chism: Hell yeah, let's go. Let's go. Get those ten PM games going. Franz: ten thirty. Not a I'd love to watch that game, but there's a zero percent Eftn Chism: No chance. Franz: chance that's happening. Eftn Chism: No chance. I won't even catch a man. Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: Hell no. That's good for them though Franz: Zero point zero percent chance. Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: to to get out west and have like a fun road trip like that early in the year. Like I feel like that's always good for the team. Eftn Chism: They'll they'll keep coming. The West Coast Road trips are not they're not just w once or twice a year. They're like eight times a year. I guarantee by Thanksgiving they're already back out west. Already. Franz: W well, you say a fun road trip. The sharks are nasty and the ducks are good too. These aren't like, we're gonna go to the West Coast, sit on the beach, drink some beers and hang out. Like these teams are back. Eftn Chism: I want them to go out though. I I play guilty, have a couple of pops. Yeah, like do they have Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: They're gonna do that. They're gonna do that. Franz: They have to though, yeah. Eftn Chism: to they have to have some team building exercises to get this this train rolling here because I mean I Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: Hundred percent. Eftn Chism: I I'll t I'll take two and two on this road trip. No questions asked. Franz: Hundo well, they're home for the next two, then then they're on the road. So yeah. Same here. Eftn Chism: Yeah, I'm sorry, over the next four. I'm I'm I'm okay with two and two. The Mamm Mammoth are gonna be a brutal game. sh I don't I don't know what's going on Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: JJ Perk at the revenge game. Eftn Chism: JJ Perturker Revenge game. I don't know what's going on with Selbrini. He was out last game with a little upper Franz: Upper body, right? Eftn Chism: body. so I don't know what's going on there. The Ducks, I I agree with you, the Ducks are are a challenge. That's that's gonna be a tough game. And Philly, I just hope they can hang on with this this shitty stretch that they got going on. And so we can grab a quick win and just get it in and out. But they're they're a good team as well. Franz: For a matinee though, it it's also a matinee against Philly. One PM, you gotta hammer the bees. Eftn Chism: Yeah, they're great in matinees. Franz: You gotta hammer the beats. I thought a lock tonight and I'm sweating it out a little bit. Utah, New Jersey, under over five and a half. Eftn Chism: What do we got for a score here? Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: What do you ice people? Franz: It's two one right now, Utah. I took the over. Five and a

half Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: You the ice people? Eftn Chism: Did you take the under? Franz: for those two? Kidding? Probably could have sprinkled some other skin around. Anyways, not the derail. Eftn Chism: No, the other thing I wanted to to say, did you guys see the reception that Larkin got? Franz: Yes. Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: Mm-hmm. Franz: I I think he deserves it. Do I think the Osama bin Larkin T shirts are warranted? Probably. Eftn Chism: That's or just Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: I Eftn Chism: a right. Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: I do. I do. I respect Eftn Chism: I think that's right. Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: it. I respect I respect what the what the good people of Detroit are doing. Eftn Chism: I don't at all. I think that's a r I think that's a ridiculous t-shirt. I think that's an absolutely ridiculous t shirt. Franz: Insane T. Insane. Kinda hilarious. Kinda hilarious. Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: I respect it. If my buddy wore if that happened to us and my buddy was wearing that shirt, I would be all I would be like, yes. Good for Eftn Chism: I would disavow. Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: you. Franz: I just think like he's done so much for the Red Wings, and they've done nothing in return for him. Eftn Chism: They've done nothing. Dude, Franz: And that like Eftn Chism: they haven't made the playoffs since he was nineteen years old. Twenty fifteen, twenty Franz: It's not Eftn Chism: sixteen. You guys were like sophomores in college. Or no freshmen. Franz: Nuts. Eftn Chism: No, I was a Franz: Yeah. Eftn Chism: freshman. Franz: Yeah. Crazy. See, Eftn Chism: And I'm ancient. Franz: so the thing is though, right? Like, why are they dragging this on? And like Halibuck, why are they dragging this on? Just trade these guys. Eftn Chism: Just make the trade. Franz: Just do it. Like they're making way more of a story than it is. Just move on. Eftn Chism: I'm very surprised by hellbuck. That that's like a line. It's a line on the sand. Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: But I feel I I feel like it's already it's already such a huge story though. So it's like, why why would you sacrifice the return that you're gonna get for a marquee player just so that a story stops? Like if I'm that GM, you're GMing for your job, like I I would rather them just hang out. See you later. Franz: There was an all time tweet, it was like Connor Halibuck spotted playing beer league in Michigan and it was like him sitting on the couch like three hundred pounds, like just drinking beers and eating wings. It was like the end of the clip of dodgeball when Ben Stiller was like fat and he like big tents just hanging out. Eftn Chism: Yeah, he's he's in one. Franz: It was like his face over it, I was pissing my pants laughing, it was unbelievable. Eftn Chism: Well, he gave them fair Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: Chuck Norris. Eftn Chism: warning. Like in the summertime, being like, hey, trying to get traded, did nothing about it. The the the crazy thing about the whole Red Wings thing too is that Horkov stepped into that interim GM spot. Is he the one that chips off Flarkin and Edvidson and gets rid of them? And Holy Cow. Franz: What a sh sandwich he inherited, huh? Poor guy. Eftn Chism: Yeys are plan. Just no bueno. I I don't know what's going on with Edwardson. I was looking into his match sheet because he could still be matched right now, which is crazy. And it looks like it would cost two first because he falls right into like that 8.4, 9.9 per year. Franz: Done. Eftn Chism: I know. I my the the thing that sucks is the Bruins just have an influx of lefty defensemen. They need right-hand defensemen. We can make obviously Ed Vincent work. I'm not saying that. No, no, Franz: Caps going up, wave hampus. Do something. Eftn Chism: you can't are you gonna waive someone from the the the leadership group? I I don't think they're gonna do that. Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: The leadership group. Eftn Chism: All we ever hear about is the leadership. Franz: True. They love talking about the leadership group in Boston. We got a good leadership group. Eftn Chism: They love the leadership group, dude. They love it. How many assistant captains do they have now? Franz: Fifteen, everyone's gotten A. Eftn Chism: Holy cow. Did you see Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: I liked what Gener had the A. Eftn Chism: Yeah, I think he had it last night, right? Franz: Yeah. Yeah, one guy I I don't want I'm not I'm we're not here to kick people when they're down. One Eftn Chism: Now Franz: guy I was surprised to kind of see his start and we sang his praises a lot last year. And he I don't know, it just looked a little out of per place as is Jonathan Aspro. Like, I don't know. Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: He sucked. Franz: I d yeah, it's just a tough start for the guy, you know. And last year, like he looked so good, his speed was great, his skating was awesome. Like his skating has just looked a little off. And if he can just be consistent again, like he's solid and like some of the fans hate him and like they think he's trash. Like I I don't think that's accurate. Like Eftn Chism: I mean the there were people calling for S Steve Spot's job after last night. You can't wa I I Franz: Shocker. Eftn Chism: I like Steve Spott. Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: I'm ready for Steve Spot to go after what I've been seeing the first four games. can Eftn Chism: Yeah, the power play is Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: s color me one of those people. Franz: You are the problem. Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: And color me w color me one of those people saying Aspiro sucks. His sister did do forty five pull ups last year during the siblings trip, which is pretty insane. But Franz: Fridge, many fridge. Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: mini fridge, yeah. But he looks absolutely terrible. I don't th as long as Brunei's in the lineup, I don't think Aspiro should should be back in. Franz: I do agree. I do think Brunei is a lot better than

Ashbro. Two different players though, honestly. Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: Two different players, yeah, I agree. I actually think I don't y I don't know. They get they they gotta do something. Franz: I do think Laura and Brune are I do think Laura and Brune are two similar players for you to have them paired up together on the back end. Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: I I agree. Eftn Chism: Yeah. Franz: I mean to each their own, I guess. So like w what do you do there? just kind of a head scratcher, so I don't know, we'll have to see when when Chucky comes back, which thank God he's coming back soon, right? Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: Mm-hmm. Franz: It'll be interesting to see. I think it'll be a whole different dynamic with the power play and the back end and how everything's gonna start flowing, kinda obviously run through him again, which will be nice to have him him back in the line up here. Eftn Chism: also a Vechkin final season. No real surprise Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: Yeah. Eftn Chism: there. No real surprise. Franz: No, I got a question for you guys. growing up it always felt like there was a divide, right? Ovechkin, Crosby. What side were you guys on? Eftn Chism: I was an Ovechkin guy, but I didn't like I wasn't I wasn't like only rooting for him. I th I I think that we just got so lucky that we got both of them at the same time. So cool. Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: So I was no Vechkin guy until probably like senior year of high school, and then I was turning into a Crosby guy. So I kind of flip-flopped. Eftn Chism: What about you, David? Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: And now I just I I enjoy them both. Franz: I was like, I couldn't I don't know, there's something about Ovechkin that just drove me nuts. I was just like the biggest Crosby fan. Like had had the jersey, the whole nine, and then I don't know, as like Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: Jose. Franz: as Ovi got older and like he won the cup, I was like, man, like it's kind like he's just a kind of a complete unit and like an animal. And I was like, I I can like get behind this. Like now I'm indifferent, but growing up all over Crosby. All over it. Eftn Chism: He's closing out on 1800 points. He'll most Franz: Not Eftn Chism: likely hit it this year. I think he's like 80 away. I saw Rovechkin his rookie year in Washington playing silver sticks. We went to a Capitals practice, and everyone was foaming at the mouth trying to get an autograph from this guy. My entire team was there, and I brought the picture, like framed everything, gray sharpie, ready to rock. and I just was in the wrong spot and I looked down and he's in just a singular jock strap outside the locker room and he's signing my brother Brett's picture. And Yeah, it Franz: With his cheeks hanging out. Eftn Chism: was just straps. It's just kind of brutal. Brutal timing, but Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: So the Bees used to always open up against the Caps for I feel like probably like ten years in a row.

And I think back in this was either two thousand ten or two thousand nine, maybe. I went to one of the opening games and as I was walking up to my seats at like we were touching the ceiling, Donald Brashier got into a fight right out the face off. And then the next play, Ovi was like coming down the half wall and Chara lifted his stick. Det twigged him went into like the last row of the Loge. It was unbelievable. Eftn Chism: Yes. Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: Guy caught the stick. They were like, Yeah. They made him give the stick back though. Isn't that kind of nuts? Eftn Chism: Did them? Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: Yeah. Franz: Really? Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: Yeah. This was before the cap went up though. The cap was like four million bucks for the team. Franz: What do you guys had 24 sticks for the whole season? The Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: They couldn't afford Franz: CCM rep had to cut him off. What do you guys make of Jack Hughes' Sally of him just throwing the stick into the stands after he scores? Now I think it's unbelievable. It's unbelievable. Eftn Chism: yeah, it's crazy. Dude McKinnon McKin McKinnon said the other day on like an interview that he goes to like over Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: Fantastic. Eftn Chism: what is it over four hundred sticks in a year? Franz: It's ludicrous. Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: That's belligerent. Eftn Chism: And the and the reporter was like, Are you are you lying to us? He goes, I literally have no reason to lie to you guys. Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: Ha ha. Eftn Chism: It's like, why would I lie to you? Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: That's a crazy question. Well are you lying? Eftn Chism: I yeah, I yeah, he's like, Why would I ever be lying about that? Franz: That's their follow up. Four hundred is insane if that's an accurate stat. Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: That is insane. Eftn Chism: Yeah, I mean, dude, these guys are they're they're busting through a couple pairs of skates, right? Three, four pairs of skates a year. Sticks just I mean Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: I guess if you're prac like if you're practicing if you're on the ice, let's see, how long is the season? It's eight months. So if you're Eftn Chism: Yeah. Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: on the ice, you know, pretty much Franz: Almost every day. Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: almost every day, a few off days here and there, like you're using a new stick for practice, probably two in a game, right? So I guess it makes sense. Franz: And that guy shoots the piss Eftn Chism: Yeah. Franz: out of the puck too. He definitely beats Eftn Chism: Well you th Franz: the wheels off his sticks. Eftn Chism: there's there's a major difference between a brand new hockey stick and one that's been used. The pop in it is Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: Mm-hmm. Eftn Chism: insane. So like obviously you're in the NHL, I'd I'd like a brand new stick probably every period, if I'm being completely honest with you. If I'm if I'm that good, wouldn't mind one new every single period. Franz: You're not bartering with Ed Seney and like the stick room being like, dude, like there's a chip in the blade. Can I please get a new one? Like this stick is just done. Like you just have teed Eftn Chism: That was that was an ins Franz: up. Eftn Chism: that was an insane process. Bartering with your bunch. Franz: 'Cause like po it's like pulling teeth. I'll trade you this one. It's like half broken. Can't please just get another stick. Thanks, coach. Appreciate it. Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: Shout out my cousin Morgan. She is a Saina's ladyhawk. Ice hockey player. Eftn Chism: Let's go. Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: Saine's Ice Franz: Go Morgan. Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: Ice Ladyhawk. Franz: Let's go. Big shout out there. BKM, what what do you got for housekeeping here for the boys? Eftn Chism: Not a whole ton. A lot of it was just around the Ovechkin news, the Larkin news. yeah, I I think this the stretch of game is gonna be really big. I I always give like first fifteen games of the year to to get a pulse on what this team's gonna be. even if they're eight and seven at that point, seven and eight, I'm still still hanging on. Like that's not really big worrisome for me. They just can't go like four and eleven. That would be That'd be detrimental. So that's that's all I'm really keeping an eye on here. I the goaltending I think is gonna be our anchor again. And we need it to be our anchor. So we we can't have swim and lose trust in our decor that quickly and lose trust in our power play too, where he's maybe able to catch his breath for a minute after seeing 40 a night. So I they just need to shape up a little bit. Franz: Agreed. I think the I forget who said it. It could have been Posta or someone, but like you mentioned, like I don't know, you said like the first 15 games, a feel out period. There I feel like they almost lose that leeway this year because it's the same systems, mad basically the same lineup coming back, right? Minus like two or three, plus or minus two or three dudes, right? You almost kind of lose that freedom to kind of blame that on systems or trying something new, right? Like they had that last year. So now it's like, how do how do they get familiar with like the one or two edit the three key additions? And then you're down your best defenseman and probably second, third best player on the team. How do you figure that situation out and then string together some points? Because all the other teams are figuring out. They're fumbling around. And if you can separate and get some points now, early, like Mike, what'd you say? There's a thirteen way tie for second or third place in the league? Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: Or third, yeah. Franz: Like you gotta find a way to separate, you know. And these next four games are pretty big. Eftn Chism: Yeah. Franz: Kind of looking looking down the line. You don't wanna be sitting here in in in March be like, damn, we

should have grabbed those points against Ottawa or Philly or the West Coast swing. We could have grabbed a couple points, you know. Eftn Chism: Agreed. Absolutely agree. I the I guess the other thing I had was the the prospects. Dean Pot. I know they played N T D P and they put they put the absolute brakes on him. But Patrick, right off the bat, good for the confidence. N T D P seemingly was not great this year. Ten one is Franz: Look like boy like men playing boys, those clips. Eftn Chism: Well, I mean, so Snake played against AD N T D P this I don't know, six, seven, eight years ago, whatever it was. And he was he said that Jack Hughes was the best player he's ever touched the ice against. And he was on N T D P at that time. I think he was sixteen or seventeen years old. so either NT no either guys aren't going N T N T D P anymore or BC's that good. I'm hoping that BC's not that good. Franz: BC's that good. Eftn Chism: I was kinda hoping for that not to be the case, but good for Dean Pot. I saw Zellers got a quick one on the power play. Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: Good good power play goal. Eftn Chism: Yep. That was that was good to see. Gronwald picking up right where he left off, plus four, four apples. another lefty defenseman. But yes, Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: See I was gonna say, is he a lefty? Shit. Eftn Chism: yeah. Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: We they just friggin' love lefty defensemens. There must Eftn Chism: I don't is there a shortage of right-handed defensemen? Because like I was Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: be. Eftn Chism: there was there was some scuttle that Edmonton was eyeing like a young center and light bulb went off, Patra. And I was like, ooh, maybe we can finagle right-handed defenseman. I just went through their their decor. They got two or three of them, and it's Bouchard, Connor Murphy, and the guy that was on the Bruins a couple of years ago. is it Biega? I forget his last name, but he he was he was he's the other right in right in adventure. So that that's not gonna work. Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: Yeah. Franz: All set. Eftn Chism: yeah. Franz: one one more stick tap here, some clicks. Hanson Native, Billy Sweezy got the C for the baby bees. So Eftn Chism: So that Frab. Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: Archbishop Williams. Franz: shout shout out ninety six bandits. What a crew that was. Eftn Chism: Is that your squad? Franz: yeah. The old the O'Brien twins. We hit we had we had quite the crew. Eftn Chism: Do you guys make it to the queue? Franz: No, if that was before my time, I was cheeks. I don't know if they went to the queue. Eftn Chism: My team went to the queue. That's why I was asking. Franz: yeah, big time. We're Middlesex Islanders. Eftn Chism: Yeah, we just we I don't top in the league and we we're able to go and Franz: Is that good? Eftn Chism: I don't know, it's the best Pee Wee tournament in the country, so Franz: Do you guys get worked? Eftn Chism: one and one. Kind of a brutal bracket. Winners we won our first game, then you get like six days off. And then you play in the rink with the roller coaster that goes above you in the mall. Have you ever seen that rink? Franz: yeah. Eftn Chism: It's insane. And Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: Isn't that the brick? Eftn Chism: No, that's that's the Q. I'm unless unless the brick is in the same spot as the Q. Franz: The brick is in Edmonton, I think. Eftn Chism: okay. but yeah, you get a couple days off and then you play your next game. If you lose you're out. But if you lose your first game, you go the losers bragging you in the next one, you're you're still going. So just kind of a brutal setup, but one on one. Franz: Seems like a waste of time. Eftn Chism: Yeah. I mean it it's it's nice to have the opportunity. I j it's sucks that sucks that your team just couldn't couldn't pull together. Mine mine was able to. Franz: It is what it is. Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: And look where it brought us. Eftn Chism: Right to save seats. Franz: I'll play men's league. Well boys, and any last thoughts before we wrap here? Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: Yeah, I got a couple. We went the entire episode without mentioning our boy Franzi Minton, another member of the leadership group, who we love. We do love Franzi. Really, really, really friggin' nice goal against the Rangers. a little quieter last couple games, but so responsible on his own end. Two hundred foot player. he should be one C. If he's if he's not gonna be one C in fifteen games, he'll be give him like twenty more games and and he'll be one C a hundred percent. He Elias can't even hold this jock. It's so good. Franz: Agreed. Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: We we we were all we were never more right on any take than we were about Transi. Eftn Chism: He is he's everything that we hoped him to be. And he's like I just want him I want him more confident with the puck. Like I want him to make that extra move. Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: Mm-hmm. Eftn Chism: I want him to hold on to it for an extra second. Franz: I'll I'm always pumping up Jimmy too. Like he's Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: Yeah. Yeah. Franz: his biggest fan. Like that's unbelievable to see. Like these two are gonna be dynamite for a while. Leadership. Eftn Chism: That's what the leadership group does. The leadership group. Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: The leadership group. He also he's only 22. Franzi's 22. Jimmy Boy's 19. another quick note too. Jimmy Hagen plus 2,000 to win the Calder right now. He is also currently tied for first in NHL rookies for goals. So, you know, again, Eftn Chism: He missed he missed the second Franz: Good value. Eftn Chism: one last night by inches. So he could have easily Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: He did. He did. So might want to sprinkle some of that. Porter Martone is the favorite to win Calder. he's tied with Gabin McKenna both at plus two eighty, but Gabin McKenna's not gonna win it. I'll tell you that right now. And Eftn Chism: Gavin McKenna's p those two are plus two eighty. Holy shit. Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: Yeah. Ivan Stenberg is plus five hundred. That's some some value. Eftn Chism: Is he on is he sharks? Franz: That's a dark horse. Yeah. Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: Yeah. He he's the he's the winger that's listed at like five eleven, but he's no taller than I am. So he's like five ten. Eftn Chism: Have you seen Franz: Got great. Eftn Chism: have you seen how brutal the Blackhawks are? Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: Terrible. Eftn Chism: Dude, Franz: Horrible. Eftn Chism: it is like it's groundhog day in Chicago again. They they can't Franz: Like they're right back to square one. Eftn Chism: I know they're out with they're out without Bedard, but that defenseman that they d drafted Leshnov from I think it's from Michigan State. Franz: You have to fire those scouts. Eftn Chism: Holy shit. He is he's like he I don't even know if he knows where he is. Franz: He also looks like he's thirty six. Mm thirty six, forties, forty Eftn Chism: He did you see the clip did you see the clip of Franz: six. Eftn Chism: Did you see the clip of him in practice? Like just running into people without the pot? What is he doing? Franz: Not a clue. Eftn Chism: god, that's bad. He's like a s I think he's second overall. Brutal. Franz: Yeah. Nuts. What a world. Well, boys, what a rip. Back to our regular scheduled programming. Thank you to Pin Golf. The best monster out there. Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: Thank you, Pengolf. Franz: and we will catch y'all after the next handful of games here. Go bees. Eftn Chism: Awesome. See you boys. Gavin Mackenna's Optional Sk8: Peace.