Full Transcript for S2 Episode 8: Welcome to Tasmania + HOTR Chat

with Barry on it. 00:02:06.959 --> 00:02:08.080 I thought I didn't think that was a thing. 00:02:08.240 --> 00:02:08.479 Yeah? 00:02:09.360 --> 00:02:09.840 Barry made? 00:02:10.159 --> 00:02:13.840 We're just gonna go row, we're just gonna row Barry right to the death. 00:02:14.000 --> 00:02:14.639 Yep, yep. 00:02:14.800 --> 00:02:15.759 Oh my god, Stewart. 00:02:15.919 --> 00:02:20.800 So we have a lot to get through in this podcast in very limited time because Ant, you need to get on the water in a bit over half an hour's time. 00:02:20.960 --> 00:02:24.800 Uh so we'll try our best to keep ourselves on track. 00:02:24.879 --> 00:02:41.120 We've first we're gonna go through the APS and the AAGPS Heads of the River from in Victoria and New South Wales, some great racing at both of those events on the aforementioned Lake uh Nagambi and the Sydney 2000 Olympic venue uh of the Sydney International Regatta Centre. 00:02:41.280 --> 00:02:50.240 Uh and uh hopefully we've learnt a little bit that can uh we can glean some information from ahead of racing uh in the schools championships later on this week. 00:02:50.400 --> 00:02:58.639 We do have also a lot to get through in terms of some previews and some first initial thoughts of what we're gonna see over the first couple of days of racing here at the Australian Rowing Championships. 00:02:58.800 --> 00:03:01.599 But first, we're gonna have a quick word from our sponsor, WingTech Racing. 00:03:01.919 --> 00:03:06.240 Rowing Down Under season two is proudly sponsored by WinTech Racing Australia. 00:03:06.479 --> 00:03:14.240 Wintech Racing have established themselves as the world's largest and foremost sustainable boat builder, producing over 2,000 shells annually. 00:03:14.400 --> 00:03:23.039 They're dedicated to promoting the growth of rowing by making it easier and more affordable to buy boats featuring cutting-edge technology that improve performance at all levels. 00:03:23.360 --> 00:03:28.800 Now, this is the part of the spiel where we're supposed to throw superfluous words at you like best, fastest, ultimate. 00:03:28.960 --> 00:03:33.919 But Wintech Australia are better served by real words like authentic, character, and service. 00:03:34.159 --> 00:03:38.960 Because what Wintech stands for is genuine and built upon the very best people and practices. 00:03:39.280 --> 00:03:50.000 Wintech's unwavering commitment to sustainability, affordability, and innovation drive them to propel the sport of rowing into a more inclusive and exciting future where your excellence will know no boundaries. 00:03:50.240 --> 00:03:55.680 Learn more about how you can get a fair price and an unfair advantage at Wintechracing.com.au. 00:03:56.400 --> 00:04:00.879 Alright, let's get into things, and we'll start with the AAEPS Head of the River. 00:04:00.960 --> 00:04:04.719 And so we had Girls First Date and Boys First Date Racing. 00:04:04.800 --> 00:04:11.919 Uh I don't know what you've got off on your phone in front

of you right now, but uh let's go to the girls' racing first, because it was actually uh a pretty cracking display, wasn't it? 00:04:12.159 --> 00:04:19.920 It was amazing, so there was only 1.1 seconds between first and second, and first was Geelong Grammar, the girls from Geelong Grammar, and second was Wesley College. 00:04:20.079 --> 00:04:20.959 It was a cracking race. 00:04:21.120 --> 00:04:24.160 I wasn't actually there on the day, but I've got to review some of the footage. 00:04:24.399 --> 00:04:28.319 The atmosphere was amazing, the sound amazing. 00:04:28.480 --> 00:04:30.480 So really good effort from those girls. 00:04:30.720 --> 00:04:36.240 And then Scotch getting the win over Melbourne Grammar School by 2.9 seconds. 00:04:36.480 --> 00:04:39.600 Uh I really thought Melbourne would be able to like just get it in there. 00:04:39.680 --> 00:04:45.360 They've been training pretty hard all season, and they've also just delayed a little bit their entry into some of the regattas. 00:04:45.439 --> 00:04:53.439 Like Scotch really jumped on at first and displayed their strength early on, whereas I thought felt the Melbourne grammar crew was a bit more secretive throughout the season. 00:04:53.680 --> 00:04:56.000 Um I I did think they'd be a bit closer as well. 00:04:56.079 --> 00:05:05.040 And they they gave them a good run in the first half of the race, but I just especially you know some slightly tougher conditions in your Gamby than you get at your circle or at Barrington on a good day. 00:05:05.199 --> 00:05:08.160 Um I I don't is there any stopping Scotch? 00:05:08.480 --> 00:05:10.240 Uh we don't think we get too ahead of ourselves. 00:05:10.399 --> 00:05:10.720 You know what? 00:05:10.800 --> 00:05:13.040 I'm always gonna back a Victorian school in. 00:05:13.360 --> 00:05:21.040 And they do ro they are strong boys, and their techniques yeah, and their technique, as we've spoken about previously, does suit that crew. 00:05:21.439 --> 00:05:24.720 I think if there's weather, I'm gonna call Scotch. 00:05:24.800 --> 00:05:25.600 Like they will get it. 00:05:25.839 --> 00:05:31.680 If it's a really flat, fair, even conditions, I would be less, I'd be a bit more hesitant. 00:05:32.000 --> 00:05:58.720 My my my caveat on that is if there is a massive roaring uh tailwind, which occasionally we do get in the afternoons, I could that could play into the hands of some of the other uh say smaller, they're none of them are small boys, but um, you know, uh you know two of the two of the New South Wales crews um or Xavier or Belvin Graham could play into their hands a little bit as a big tailwind, just because I think Scotch's big advantage lies in the slower conditions, but they're quick everywhere. 00:05:58.800 --> 00:06:03.120 And you know, they won at uh New South Wales State Champs in fairly neutral sort of conditions. 00:06:04.160 --> 00:06:05.360 I think they still look the favourite. 00:06:06.639 --> 00:06:12.800 I I think they're the favourites, but I don't think it's like last year where Riverview were such dominant favourites. 00:06:13.360 --> 00:06:20.000 This year I think you've got about four or five schools that you know definitely in with a chance of podium uh potential. 00:06:20.319 --> 00:06:32.639 It'll be between we'll get to the New South Wales GPS uh in a minute, but uh Scotch will definitely be the favourites from New South Wales along with um that Melbourne grammar crew, and we'll see how they all pan out. 00:06:32.720 --> 00:06:39.920 And then the um the other interstates where we've got the Southport School from Queensland and also uh Prince Alfred College from South Australia. 00:06:40.240 --> 00:06:44.480 Yeah, I I don't I think it's it'll be a New South Wales or a Victorian winner. 00:06:44.639 --> 00:06:48.079 Um I don't i it's hard to say because we don't know about Prince Alfred College. 00:06:48.160 --> 00:06:52.480 They haven't faced up against anyone, and they could, you know, we can't glean times off Westlakes. 00:06:52.720 --> 00:06:55.839 Um so you know, could throw up a surprise for sure. 00:06:56.079 --> 00:07:02.399 But last year, when I wrote my sort of spiel for what you say as a crew comes over the line for national championships, I wrote one. 00:07:02.480 --> 00:07:03.360 I wrote one for review. 00:07:03.439 --> 00:07:05.519 I didn't write one for anyone else because I wasn't I knew that. 00:07:05.600 --> 00:07:06.480 You can't do that this year. 00:07:06.720 --> 00:07:08.079 This year, you I'm not gonna be there. 00:07:08.160 --> 00:07:15.360 You're gonna have to do what I did for the school girl late last year, which is I had to write five little end of race spills, uh, which uh uh enjoy that. 00:07:15.439 --> 00:07:18.879 Um I'm more than happy to help with any of the Victorian crews, just letting you know, Chris. 00:07:19.360 --> 00:07:20.480 Of course, of course, of course. 00:07:20.720 --> 00:07:23.839 Um AAGPS Head of the River. 00:07:24.079 --> 00:07:24.560 Wow. 00:07:24.800 --> 00:07:28.480 What uh firstly, I had a great experience. 00:07:28.560 --> 00:07:30.160 That's the first time I've called that race. 00:07:30.240 --> 00:07:33.360 Um it's probably the most watched rowing race almost in the world. 00:07:33.600 --> 00:07:35.600 Over 100,000 people tuning in to watch that race. 00:07:35.680 --> 00:07:36.560 It's insane. 00:07:36.720 --> 00:07:39.439 Um the crowds are next level. 00:07:39.519 --> 00:07:41.920 Um, although the APS crowds look fantastic as well. 00:07:42.240 --> 00:07:45.439 I dare say there may have been more people at the end, it would it would have been a similar number. 00:07:45.600 --> 00:07:48.560 Um, but all those school boys there, it obviously means so much. 00:07:48.879 --> 00:07:51.839 Um Shaw with their first win since 2019. 00:07:51.920 --> 00:08:09.360 I like the parallel with Shaw and Pimble being those two North Shore Sydney schools that have been so dominant over the last you know 30, 40, 50 years,

and uh but both of them not having a win for six or seven years, uh, or seven or eight years, and uh both of them getting back on top this year, and that's a great um little storyline that we've seen. 00:08:09.439 --> 00:08:12.720 It was very close, 0.04 of a second, the closest ever. 00:08:13.600 --> 00:08:18.240 Uh and I would like to clear up some things that happened with the timing afterwards. 00:08:18.399 --> 00:08:28.639 Um so uh without going too deep into it, uh the buttons were pressed not at the same time, which they should have just been pressed at the same time, so it comes up as a photo finish. 00:08:28.959 --> 00:08:35.039 So the unoffit the word unofficial disappeared off the results and it had reverview in front of Shaw. 00:08:35.120 --> 00:08:41.840 Uh it didn't say photo finish, even though Stephen Cruit was very dutifully going through the photo finish at the time, but I didn't know that in the commentary box. 00:08:42.159 --> 00:08:44.879 So as far as I knew, Riverview had won. 00:08:44.960 --> 00:08:51.279 I did call Shaw across the line, I did call it correctly, but then a couple minutes later it said reverview, the word unofficial went away. 00:08:52.000 --> 00:08:58.480 And then we had to change it back, and there was some very uh there's a bit of confusion going around and um some slightly stressed out people wondering who had won it. 00:08:58.559 --> 00:09:02.000 Um GPS did a good job of handling all that and it was all fine in the end. 00:09:02.080 --> 00:09:08.159 Uh but it's worthwhile pointing out as well, Chris, like 0.04 in an eight is not even the width of the bow number. 00:09:08.559 --> 00:09:10.799 If anyone wants to see it, I've got the photo finish, uh photo. 00:09:11.039 --> 00:09:13.120 It is it's the bow ball skill. 00:09:13.360 --> 00:09:17.360 It is the bow ball in it, and it I thought it was really well called across the line. 00:09:17.600 --> 00:09:23.600 It is tricky because you are trying to sit there and you want to give the most accurate things when you're in the combox as well. 00:09:24.240 --> 00:09:33.440 Um, and so you know, we've it happened to us all, it just really tough when it's one of the biggest races in Australian rowing. 00:09:33.600 --> 00:09:44.559 But um, no, and I mean it sets both Shaw, Shaw and Riverview will both be better for the run because anytime you've got that level of side by side, because it wasn't that Shaw got out to an early lead, was it? 00:09:44.720 --> 00:09:46.799 It was that the lead changed. 00:09:46.960 --> 00:09:54.879 Yeah, and and we've seen so many times throughout the season between those two crews of we haven't seen one goes out faster and the other one's been reeling them in all throughout the season. 00:09:55.039 --> 00:09:58.799 We haven't seen you know, one crew has a sprint finish and the other one's been holding them off. 00:09:59.279 --> 00:10:02.080 It's the way that the race has unfolded has been different every single week. 00:10:02.240 --> 00:10:03.039 And it was different again. 00:10:03.279 --> 00:10:13.600 Review went out fast, they found that like top end bit of speed that they've been looking for, and uh then Shaw really mature, came through through the you know, the the first bit of the last 500. 00:10:13.679 --> 00:10:15.039 I threw you looked down and out. 00:10:15.120 --> 00:10:22.000 Like Shaw had the momentum, they had probably half a length, almost half the boat length, and I thought, cool, this is it, they're gonna walk away with this here, and it's gonna be Shaw. 00:10:22.240 --> 00:10:24.000 And oh my lord, St. 00:10:24.159 --> 00:10:30.879 Ignatius came home like it, and they didn't like watching the footage back, like they didn't look like it. 00:10:31.039 --> 00:10:34.720 You couldn't look like they were overrating to try and you couldn't pin up where the speed was coming from. 00:10:34.799 --> 00:10:36.960 It just they just motion. 00:10:37.759 --> 00:10:43.279 It was just uh there's just a mongrel there, and those boys wanted, you know, two boys back from last year, a came to go back to back. 00:10:43.440 --> 00:10:48.879 Um, and you know, they were their bow ball was ahead a couple of times in the last two strokes, it was you know, swapping every stroke. 00:10:48.960 --> 00:10:50.399 Um, and it was short. 00:10:50.480 --> 00:10:57.919 I don't want to use the word luck because Shaw have you know won the majority of the races all season and they've um done very well to put themselves in that position, but what an incredible race. 00:10:58.000 --> 00:11:03.759 Um and I I we can only hope that we're gonna get something similar again here uh on the waters of Black Barrington, can't we? 00:11:04.000 --> 00:11:04.720 For sure, for sure. 00:11:04.799 --> 00:11:07.039 And I even reckon in the in the cockpit. 00:11:07.200 --> 00:11:07.919 For sure. 00:11:08.240 --> 00:11:08.720 For sure. 00:11:09.279 --> 00:11:10.000 You heard it here first. 00:11:10.080 --> 00:11:11.440 Ant is tipping Shaw for the Bennington. 00:11:11.679 --> 00:11:13.840 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. 00:11:14.000 --> 00:11:15.440 Redact, redact, redact. 00:11:15.759 --> 00:11:16.399 No, no. 00:11:16.559 --> 00:11:20.879 But I don't think I think there will be close racing across all of the school school kid events. 00:11:21.200 --> 00:11:25.360 Like there are just we were talking, we've been banging on about this the last three episodes. 00:11:25.519 --> 00:11:28.000 The quality of school kid rowing is insane right now. 00:11:28.159 --> 00:11:28.879 It's great. 00:11:29.039 --> 00:11:31.840 Even Pimble, I reckon, could take on a lot of those open eights. 00:11:32.159 --> 00:11:36.320 Yeah, well they have they have they've taken on two competitive open eights and they've won. 00:11:36.399 --> 00:11:43.679 Um we haven't really mentioned, we did mention the other day um while we're still just still still just on the school's uh Scotch Open, the locals here in Tassie. 00:11:43.759 -->

00:11:50.480 Uh we did mention on the podcast the other day, they were 0.02 of a second off the national record at the head of the at the head of the river. 00:11:50.559 --> 00:11:52.960 They were very comfortable, so they're 15 seconds clear of the field. 00:11:53.200 --> 00:11:54.320 Yes, it's at Barrington. 00:11:54.399 --> 00:11:59.919 Yes, it's hard to sort of compare times and things, but I think they're someone that we should watch out for in the school girl eight. 00:12:00.240 --> 00:12:02.320 That record time was set here at Lake Barrington last year. 00:12:04.159 --> 00:12:13.200 So it's um I mean I I was having a look at the trophies yesterday when I came down, and I think there's been might have been the Hutchins School has won the School Girl Eights back in the late 90s. 00:12:13.360 --> 00:12:15.279 So I'm not really counting out. 00:12:17.279 --> 00:12:22.960 Um uh Hutchins were the first winners of the Barrington Cup in the uh 1960s as well. 00:12:23.279 --> 00:12:23.519 There we go. 00:12:23.919 --> 00:12:24.559 First and second winners. 00:12:24.960 --> 00:12:28.000 I'm not counting out it would be such a popular win, wouldn't it? 00:12:28.240 --> 00:12:28.559 Down here. 00:12:28.879 --> 00:12:39.759 Insane for a Tasmanian school to win either of the school eights, it would I I think we'll we'll see the banks lined, thronging with people on Sunday. 00:12:39.919 --> 00:12:43.600 And if they won that, my word, would that be an achievement? 00:12:43.759 --> 00:12:44.080 Yeah. 00:12:44.399 --> 00:12:48.399 Speaking of the banks lined with people, um, let's sort of move on to this week. 00:12:48.639 --> 00:12:58.480 And uh we were just saying as we walked in this morning, uh some changes just around the event area this year, and um new big screens, big screens moved. 00:12:58.720 --> 00:12:59.519 There's a stage. 00:12:59.679 --> 00:13:08.960 Everyone everyone's been moved a little bit closer to the finish line, which I think Stuart, we remarked a few times last year, we feel very isolated when we spend our whole day up here at the media centre and in the uh in the town. 00:13:09.039 --> 00:13:12.000 And what what are your thoughts on uh on how it's everything's all set up this year? 00:13:12.240 --> 00:13:15.120 So this is my second time as a oh hi Lizzie over the speaker. 00:13:15.360 --> 00:13:18.960 Yeah, we're gonna have a little bit of background noise from Lizzie as the uh the racing finally gets underway. 00:13:19.360 --> 00:13:20.080 But you have to bear with us. 00:13:20.399 --> 00:13:23.360 Like just from an athlete perspective, everything is a lot more condensed, so it's easy to walk. 00:13:23.519 --> 00:13:29.840 Because I found myself last year, I felt like I was just walking amazing lengths across the boat park and the athlete precinct. 00:13:30.240 --> 00:13:33.840 But I kind of like the way that they've structured the the stalls. 00:13:33.919 --> 00:13:42.240 So you've got all the shopping, classic me thinking about

shopping, here in this like little bar kind of cutesy area, and then you've got all the boat stuff with the boats, which makes a lot of sense. 00:13:42.480 --> 00:13:50.799 Yeah, it's it's the there's the athlete area and there's a spectator area, and they're they're a bit separate, but it's also if you're spending your day watching, you're all everyone's down this end. 00:13:50.879 --> 00:13:52.960 I think it's going to lead to a better atmosphere come the end of the week. 00:13:53.039 --> 00:13:58.559 Already, like, you know, there's more people in bean bags and chairs and stuff in front of the uh in front of the big screen. 00:13:58.639 --> 00:14:01.600 I love that you can see the big screen from the row union marquee, Stuart. 00:14:02.080 --> 00:14:05.200 Yes, you can watch, and there'll be a lot of people that'll be watching that. 00:14:05.279 --> 00:14:12.080 So last year I was in the row union marquee for the interstate races after the para races, and you couldn't see what was going on. 00:14:12.559 --> 00:14:13.200 On official business. 00:14:13.360 --> 00:14:14.720 On official business, yes. 00:14:14.879 --> 00:14:20.639 I was I was sampling local wares, and um yeah, you just couldn't see exactly what was going on. 00:14:20.720 --> 00:14:30.559 So trying to work out off those tiny little screens, and when you're my size, which is five foot seven and a pair of Tom Cruise heels, it's really, really hard to see over the heads of rowers. 00:14:30.720 --> 00:14:33.360 Are you gonna put it on a Tom Cruise run later? 00:14:34.159 --> 00:14:37.840 Well then you're a very vertically challenged podcast. 00:14:38.720 --> 00:14:42.000 Um fantastic. 00:14:42.159 --> 00:14:44.879 Um so plan for the week in terms of podcasting. 00:14:44.960 --> 00:14:46.799 We'll have a Thursday and a Friday podcast for you. 00:14:46.879 --> 00:14:56.240 On Saturday, we'll have our big preview of all the uh the interstate and schools races, and we'll have a Black Monday podcast uh on Monday with uh all the wrap-up and all the sawheads uh post-Australian Rowing Championships. 00:14:56.320 --> 00:15:01.440 So I want to ask you to, for the first few days of racing, is there anything having a look at how the draw is sort of unfolding? 00:15:01.600 --> 00:15:08.399 Um anything uh that you guys are wanting to keep your keep an eye out on um across these sort of early rounds and into the small boats? 00:15:08.639 --> 00:15:12.480 Look, I think with the small boats, I think it's amazingly open. 00:15:12.639 --> 00:15:23.759 Um the one that I'd like to point out in the under-17 women's single skulls, Ayla Drury from a Willembar, she was third in the under-19s at New South Wales Championships. 00:15:23.919 --> 00:15:25.279 They won the under-17s. 00:15:25.600 --> 00:15:30.159 As an under-17, she's been picked in the Queensland Bicentennial Cup squad. 00:15:30.240 --> 00:15:33.360 That's under-21s as a 16-year-old. 00:15:33.840 --> 00:15:36.159 This girl is amazingly quick. 00:15:36.399 --> 00:15:41.440 So I'll be curious to see how she goes here at the Australian Rowing Championships. 00:15:41.519 --> 00:15:47.039 But certainly all of the open skulls and pairs events I think are really, really open. 00:15:48.000 --> 00:15:53.519 Um, I reckon UQ for a lot of the under-23 events will go quite strong, just having a look at some of the names. 00:15:53.679 --> 00:15:58.320 More so in the sweep events than the sculling, but I definitely back a lot of those UQ crews. 00:15:58.639 --> 00:16:07.120 And then in the lighties, I think the boys from Victoria, um, Carl and Tom Hastings and in that lightweight pair will definitely I I expect them to dominate. 00:16:07.519 --> 00:16:08.639 Victoria and inverted commas. 00:16:08.879 --> 00:16:10.720 Victoria and we won't mention it. 00:16:10.960 --> 00:16:11.440 We won't mention it. 00:16:11.519 --> 00:16:12.480 I mean, what are we mentioning the day? 00:16:12.960 --> 00:16:13.840 We can we talk about it later? 00:16:14.000 --> 00:16:14.480 No, no, no. 00:16:14.720 --> 00:16:20.960 I reckon those boys from Victoria who also will be making an appearance in the Penrith Cup will be a strong performance. 00:16:21.200 --> 00:16:27.519 Um in the lightweight girls, I've noticed that Alex Moylin has returned, and so has Hannah Tippett, which is great to see. 00:16:27.679 --> 00:16:43.200 So uh Alex came second in that event last year, and I think she'd be well placed to pick up the gold this year, particularly since those two girls, those two ANU girls who you know quite well, Stu, uh came second by such a small margin at Royal Women's Henley in the lightweight double. 00:16:43.279 --> 00:16:44.399 So they are some of my favourites. 00:16:44.799 --> 00:16:48.159 That was the rest of the day at Henley Women's that uh was was an absolute cracker. 00:16:48.320 --> 00:16:53.039 They were you know they were very gracious in defeat, they were very disappointed to lose to uh to Birmingham. 00:16:53.200 --> 00:16:56.879 Um but uh that was they were way more gracious than I would have been in that scenario. 00:16:57.679 --> 00:16:59.440 I can't imagine you losing graciously. 00:16:59.759 --> 00:17:01.519 Me chucking my toys out of the cot? 00:17:01.759 --> 00:17:02.080 No. 00:17:02.720 --> 00:17:06.000 We look forward to that at about what is it, 2.15 this afternoon. 00:17:06.400 --> 00:17:10.720 Yeah, so if you listen to this early on, please uh what is it 2.15 or 315? 00:17:10.960 --> 00:17:15.839 3.15, maybe 3.45 because we've had a half an hour delay, we're told due to a bound number admin issue. 00:17:16.000 --> 00:17:20.640 Um but uh Stu and I will be commentating and in the open lightweight women's single scale. 00:17:20.880 --> 00:17:21.599 Please be nice to me. 00:17:21.759 --> 00:17:22.480 Please pray for me. 00:17:22.559 --> 00:17:25.200 Oh what oh we've got the new the FISA rules being applied. 00:17:25.440 --> 00:17:26.480 Oh yes, let's talk about that. 00:17:26.799 --> 00:17:27.359

Let's talk about that. 00:17:27.440 --> 00:17:28.160 That's really important. 00:17:28.559 --> 00:17:31.279 So yeah, so it's so particularly for the open events. 00:17:31.759 --> 00:17:33.839 It's only the open event, correct? 00:17:34.079 --> 00:17:34.319 Yes, yes. 00:17:35.039 --> 00:17:38.160 The open women's double is still got repercharges for some reason. 00:17:38.799 --> 00:17:38.960 Okay. 00:17:39.200 --> 00:17:39.920 There might be a reason. 00:17:40.480 --> 00:17:45.599 But it is with the with the feed the new world rowing rules basically where it is based on the heat. 00:17:45.680 --> 00:17:51.759 So all of the heats will have some jeopardy to them because you can miss out on the A final with a couple of bad strokes. 00:17:51.920 --> 00:17:56.960 So it's uh so I think in a couple of them it's the fastest and then the next four fastest. 00:17:57.279 --> 00:18:00.720 Uh the two it'll be the heat winners, the winners, and then next four, yeah. 00:18:01.119 --> 00:18:01.759 The next four fastest. 00:18:03.119 --> 00:18:03.759 That must be a few. 00:18:03.920 --> 00:18:05.680 Well, it it depends on how many heats there are. 00:18:06.000 --> 00:18:08.799 So sometimes it'll be first and second, we'll go directly through. 00:18:09.279 --> 00:18:12.880 We saw this at the world championship, we saw it in the international stage last year. 00:18:12.960 --> 00:18:14.640 I saw it at the world championships. 00:18:14.960 --> 00:18:24.319 Um I know for the Australian women's four, uh, there was a really tight finish in for third and fourth, which meant that basically in the second heat, you had to finish first or second to go through. 00:18:24.559 --> 00:18:26.880 Australia led early, drop back a bit. 00:18:26.960 --> 00:18:29.920 It it just felt like they were a little bit frenetic, and that was it. 00:18:30.079 --> 00:18:35.359 They could no longer win a medal because they were straight through to the B-final after one race. 00:18:35.519 --> 00:18:46.720 So that in itself is going to mean that um every single heat in these open events, apart from the women's stubble, is going to have a a level of jeopardy. 00:18:46.880 --> 00:18:49.359 You have to row right towards the line. 00:18:49.440 --> 00:18:54.160 It's no saving energy because you've got to confirm that you are one of the next quickest through. 00:18:54.240 --> 00:18:56.400 And I think that is going to add something. 00:18:56.880 --> 00:19:00.079 So yeah, it I sometimes Monday can be a little bit boring. 00:19:03.119 --> 00:19:07.599 Now that you're saying all this out loud, and as an athlete that we'll be rowing under that, it's kind of scary. 00:19:07.759 --> 00:19:13.039 Yeah, we're gonna get an update on uh how it actually feels to have that jeopardy uh later on in the week from Ant. 00:19:13.119 --> 00:19:15.279 But uh we do mic up with Ant. 00:19:16.000 --> 00:19:16.960 I would allow it. 00:19:17.119 --> 00:19:17.759 I would allow it. 00:19:18.000 --> 00:19:22.799 So we're gonna get a

straight line from the commentary box into the boat and uh at the 750. 00:19:22.960 --> 00:19:24.640 Ant, you realise you're not gonna make the A final. 00:19:24.799 --> 00:19:25.440 How do you feel? 00:19:25.759 --> 00:19:27.519 Don't tell me that now. 00:19:28.480 --> 00:19:35.599 I I think we'd have to have the bleep, the dump button, and the BMA, the BMA guys work hard enough. 00:19:35.680 --> 00:19:37.759 I don't think we'd do make any extra work for them. 00:19:37.920 --> 00:19:39.359 Uh at that stage of the regatta. 00:19:39.519 --> 00:19:43.759 I think we're gonna have some racing reasonably so well, half an hour delay, so I think we're still 20 minutes away from racing. 00:19:43.839 --> 00:19:48.640 We've got another few minutes uh to fill on uh on the podcast and a couple more things that I want to have a chat about. 00:19:48.799 --> 00:19:49.599 Open events. 00:19:49.759 --> 00:19:52.559 So last year we didn't see too many of our top athletes here. 00:19:52.640 --> 00:19:59.839 There was uh a bout of the spicy cough going around at uh the the training centre, and uh, I think maybe it wasn't a compulsory selection event. 00:20:00.000 --> 00:20:01.200 I don't know, it was a bit messy last year. 00:20:01.359 --> 00:20:04.000 Anyway, we've got pretty much everyone back uh this year. 00:20:04.960 --> 00:20:05.680 Singles. 00:20:06.240 --> 00:20:17.920 Uh I am gonna say I'd really like to see Cormac win the men's single because he's won uh eight national championships in singles, including the Interstate, but never the open men's single for the Dr. 00:20:18.000 --> 00:20:19.519 Stephen Hinchy Memorial Trophy. 00:20:19.599 --> 00:20:22.400 Um and I think this might be his year, thoughts? 00:20:23.119 --> 00:20:25.039 No, he's he's definitely the favourite for it. 00:20:25.119 --> 00:20:41.599 We saw him at ACT Championships, uh, which was the NTC plus uh Cormac Kendy Leverett, who as we continually mentioned the Queenslander rowing for Sydney Rowing Club and training out of the ACT high performance programme because let's let's not make anything simple in rowing. 00:20:41.759 --> 00:20:44.400 Um but he he is the favourite uh homie. 00:20:44.880 --> 00:20:46.880 It'll be interesting to see the South Australians. 00:20:46.960 --> 00:20:48.960 Mitch Reinhardt uh won last year. 00:20:49.359 --> 00:20:50.319 Oscar McGinnis won last year. 00:20:50.640 --> 00:20:53.680 Oscar McGuinness, sorry, uh Mitch Reinhardt was well up there as well. 00:20:53.920 --> 00:20:57.599 So you know whether or not how they go again this year. 00:20:57.839 --> 00:21:10.559 Um I think at the women's side, Tara Rigney is back, and I would still have her as the favourite because she's still blisteringly quick, even though she's not directly in the National Training Centre, I believe. 00:21:10.960 --> 00:21:13.279 We haven't seen as much of her this year as we did last year. 00:21:13.519 --> 00:21:17.519 She wasn't at uh New South Wales Championships, but um yeah, I think she's still gonna be right up there. 00:21:17.599 --> 00:21:23.359 I don't really see anyone else um being able to challenge her in in the single skull. 00:21:23.599 --> 00:21:28.640 Um Ant, any thoughts on the open events apart from the open Lighty Women single? 00:21:30.480 --> 00:21:39.359 Um I think we well, no, actually, I've been watching more the under-23s, so I think I think I I'd largely agree with everything Stu kind of just said there. 00:21:39.680 --> 00:21:43.680 Uh it'd be interesting to see what Olivia Yates from Tassie will do in the under 23 scores. 00:21:44.000 --> 00:21:45.119 Yeah, she's on home water and I know. 00:21:45.279 --> 00:21:50.799 Jarrenzo and Olivia Yates as well, who uh does a little bit of writing for the catch and oh and does some racing previews as well. 00:21:50.880 --> 00:21:51.359 Does a very good job. 00:21:51.680 --> 00:21:55.200 It'll be interesting because her and I think she's rolling again in the open double with Alana. 00:21:55.759 --> 00:21:57.440 So uh open or under 23. 00:21:57.519 --> 00:21:59.839 I think she's in the under 23 double with Alana, so it'll be good. 00:22:00.240 --> 00:22:03.680 Interesting to see how they got those guys go, but I largely agree with everything Stu said. 00:22:04.079 --> 00:22:04.319 Yeah. 00:22:04.480 --> 00:22:04.880 Very good. 00:22:05.519 --> 00:22:05.680 Right. 00:22:09.359 --> 00:22:10.640 Open Women's Pair. 00:22:10.720 --> 00:22:27.039 There's one interesting combination, Stu, that uh of uh Lucy Stefan with uh a new member, an import to the Australian National University boat club, who who who would Australian National University would never do such a thing as uh import someone from beyond the borders of the Australian Capital Territory. 00:22:27.200 --> 00:22:28.480 But uh tell me about that one. 00:22:28.720 --> 00:22:33.920 Yeah, Camilla Kralakate, uh she finished fourth for Lithuania in the women's pairs at Paris. 00:22:34.160 --> 00:22:47.039 So it was I and it wasn't until actually I saw one of the JRM previews that I realized, because obviously I'll go through the ANU guys, I'm a member of the ANU boat club, I'll go through all the entries and then go, who is Kralakate? 00:22:47.440 --> 00:22:51.119 And then had a look, and somebody mentioned, yeah, she'd rode for Lithuania. 00:22:51.359 --> 00:22:56.480 So her and Lucy Stefan in the pairs, I think it's gonna be a beautiful team up from us. 00:22:57.200 --> 00:23:00.799 It's gonna be a fascinating sort of run that one. 00:23:00.960 --> 00:23:10.400 So I think Camilla's moved down to I think she's living in Canberra at least for a little while, or she's come down to visit something like that. 00:23:10.559 --> 00:23:13.200 So it's it's great to see her in ANU colours. 00:23:13.359 --> 00:23:18.000 Um as you say, we don't very often get international rowers for us. 00:23:18.079 --> 00:23:24.960 I think Caleb Antill is probably the most famous one that we've had out of ANU, and Kat Ross, um, the former

world champion in the PR2s. 00:23:25.599 --> 00:23:29.200 So it's it's gonna be really fascinating to see how they go. 00:23:29.440 --> 00:23:37.599 Um you know, we know that Lucy Stefan is just a human cheat code when it comes to a rowing boat. 00:23:37.839 --> 00:23:43.839 And whether or not, you know, how much the two of them have been number one, how much have they been training together? 00:23:44.720 --> 00:23:47.119 And then also how much have they been training in general? 00:23:47.440 --> 00:23:51.920 Well, yeah, Lucy's been in South Australia, so I can't I can't imagine they have. 00:23:52.319 --> 00:23:53.920 I actually wonder if they've got a scratch combo. 00:23:54.240 --> 00:23:57.359 Probably just doing a couple training rows here at Nationals and just winning it. 00:23:57.599 --> 00:23:59.200 I've done that before, won a national title. 00:23:59.839 --> 00:24:00.240 All the best do. 00:24:00.559 --> 00:24:09.200 The other the other interesting one for that event is uh uh Caitlin McMurris Barrett and Isabella Scammel uh in the pair going up against then all the NTC athletes. 00:24:09.279 --> 00:24:12.720 So I think that is gonna be the open women's pair is gonna be a fascinating one to watch. 00:24:12.799 --> 00:24:15.279 I can't remember what the trophy's called, but it's a good one. 00:24:15.440 --> 00:24:16.079 It's a big trophy. 00:24:16.400 --> 00:24:17.680 Is it the Sarah Tate trophy? 00:24:17.920 --> 00:24:19.039 It is, and it's big. 00:24:19.279 --> 00:24:20.559 Uh it's a good looking one. 00:24:20.880 --> 00:24:24.000 Um and then in the men's pairs, something very similar. 00:24:24.160 --> 00:24:25.279 Yeah, it's the swan on it. 00:24:25.440 --> 00:24:26.720 It's the swan on it, yeah, yeah. 00:24:26.960 --> 00:24:37.200 Um and then the men's pairs, uh kind of similar with Patty Holt and Rowan Lavery, aren't training out of the center full time um up against sort of all the some of the NTC pairs. 00:24:37.279 --> 00:24:40.079 Although I've noticed like three of them have scratched the NTC pairs. 00:24:40.559 --> 00:24:46.720 Um uh so I don't won't uh claim to know what's going on, but yeah, a few of them have have scratched. 00:24:46.799 --> 00:24:55.759 So I think the open events this year, they aren't just an NTC whitewash, and they aren't just uh free-for-all because there's no NTC people here. 00:24:56.160 --> 00:25:03.279 And I think the level of the people who aren't at the centres is pretty high, and uh, I think we're gonna see some really good racing in those in those those events. 00:25:03.519 --> 00:25:10.400 Well, you mentioned Scammel and McManus Barrett, and I think they they are so close to national team selection. 00:25:10.559 --> 00:25:12.160 If it's not this year, it'll be next year. 00:25:12.400 --> 00:25:14.720 I think if they if they want it, they they could be in it. 00:25:14.799 --> 00:25:14.960 Yeah. 00:25:15.359 --> 00:25:20.799 Yeah, and again, I will point out that Caitlin McManus Barrett has been training out of Canberra for a very long time. 00:25:21.039 --> 00:25:38.240 And she actually coached a um uh young fella down in Canberra uh with an intellectual impairment, and was she so she'd go out in regattas with Cormac Hay uh with Cormac Hayes and they'd actually follow him down the course so he could get a race and sort of make sure of it. 00:25:38.319 --> 00:25:47.119 So I've always been for both Cormac and for Caitlin really, really impressed with their commitment to um helping young Cameron out and great to see. 00:25:47.359 --> 00:25:47.920 Fantastic. 00:25:48.079 --> 00:25:52.480 I think uh we've waffled on for long enough for uh a bit of a Monday morning preview podcast. 00:25:52.640 --> 00:25:54.319 Ant has a session to go on. 00:25:54.559 --> 00:25:58.000 It's very competitive to get a uh a training bow number time slot here. 00:25:58.079 --> 00:25:58.880 You've got to be lined up. 00:26:01.279 --> 00:26:02.160 Did you see the line this morning? 00:26:02.319 --> 00:26:05.119 Yeah, but they put in like a million bookings for like people, these three people. 00:26:05.359 --> 00:26:06.000 New South Wales people. 00:26:06.079 --> 00:26:07.200 I I reckon I can tell you who it is. 00:26:07.599 --> 00:26:08.160 Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:26:09.279 --> 00:26:11.519 No names naming, but I'm definitely looking north at some people. 00:26:11.680 --> 00:26:12.319 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:26:12.400 --> 00:26:13.759 Yeah, thanks, Peter Warren. 00:26:14.000 --> 00:26:20.319 Um lovely guy, helps out everyone, but yes, we'll get we'll be first in line for that, those bow numbers usually. 00:26:20.559 --> 00:26:26.960 Um last thoughts on uh this beautiful venue and uh the racing that we're gonna see this week. 00:26:27.200 --> 00:26:36.079 I know we've touched on a lot of competitive people and people who are focusing on selection and things like that, but to everyone who is here who has the opportunity to just row, stop and enjoy where you are. 00:26:36.240 --> 00:26:44.240 Like stop and enjoy the amazing opportunity you've been presented with, and stop and enjoy the fact that this is really a once-in-a-lifetime kind of thing that you're doing. 00:26:44.319 --> 00:26:46.160 And just pat yourself on the back for being here. 00:26:46.400 --> 00:26:47.039 Yeah, absolutely. 00:26:47.359 --> 00:26:50.319 It's certainly the one race that I've done here in Nashville's in 2021. 00:26:50.480 --> 00:26:57.599 I didn't take time to enjoy it as much as I was commentating, and it was the only race I did, and it was a bit of a uh just general shit show of a weekend. 00:26:57.680 --> 00:27:00.319 Um, and don't need to dwell on that anymore. 00:27:00.400 --> 00:27:00.720 I'm over it. 00:27:00.799 --> 00:27:02.799 I promise I'm not still hung up and being disqualified. 00:27:02.960 --> 00:27:07.920 But uh I definitely didn't enjoy it as much as I as much as I should have. 00:27:08.160 --> 00:27:11.200 And uh yeah, it is just such a gorgeous place to row. 00:27:11.359 --> 00:27:17.359 The standard of the event that they've put on with you know all these spaces that we spoke about earlier, the standard of the competition this year is fantastic. 00:27:17.440 --> 00:27:20.720 So please take some time to really enjoy it and appreciate being here. 00:27:21.039 --> 00:27:29.039 And it Ant's exactly right, you know, it's um if you're at even if you're out the back or something like that, you're competing in the national titles. 00:27:29.200 --> 00:27:31.279 And I think people tend to forget that. 00:27:31.440 --> 00:27:36.799 So it's yeah, and if you're gonna compete in national titles, why not here? 00:27:37.279 --> 00:27:38.480 Yeah, exactly. 00:27:38.640 --> 00:27:41.599 And with that, we will let you go, Ant and Stu. 00:27:41.759 --> 00:27:44.720 We will get in the commentary box very shortly after I finished editing this one. 00:27:44.880 --> 00:27:45.759 Ant is gonna run away. 00:27:45.920 --> 00:27:46.640 Goodbye, Ant. 00:27:46.720 --> 00:27:47.359 Thank you for joining us. 00:27:47.440 --> 00:27:48.240 We'll see you on the water. 00:27:48.559 --> 00:27:48.880 We'll see you. 00:27:49.039 --> 00:27:53.119 She's actually gonna come back and commentate before she uh races after her pre-row. 00:27:53.440 --> 00:27:57.839 But with that, rowing down under season two is proudly sponsored by WinTech Racing Australia. 00:27:57.920 --> 00:28:04.640 WinTech Racing have established themselves as the world's largest and foremost sustainable boat builder, producing over 2,000 shells annually. 00:28:04.799 --> 00:28:12.559 They're dedicated to promoting the growth of rowing by making it easier and more affordable to buy boats featuring cutting-edge technology that improve performance at all levels. 00:28:12.720 --> 00:28:21.759 WinTech's unwavering commitment to sustainability, affordability, and innovation drive them to propel the sport of rowing into a more inclusive and exciting future where your excellence will know no boundaries. 00:28:21.920 --> 00:28:28.559 Wintech Racing Australia can be found at Origata New and are here at the National Championships here on Lake Barrington. 00:28:28.640 --> 00:28:30.319 Please make sure you go and stay good day. 00:28:30.559 --> 00:28:35.920 Learn more about how you can get a fair price and an unfair advantage at winteracing.com.au