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Speaker 1: Today. It's Friday, June second, twenty twenty three.
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Speaker 2: Coming up on Roland Martin Unfiltered, streaming live on the Blackstar Network. Live from Atlanta. Vice President Kamala Haara's details how the Body administration is combating housing bias. We will talk to the nation's top black real estate organization about this huge problem with discrimination in housing. Also, we now have a new debt First of all, the debt ceiling has been signed into law. President Biden will be speaking.
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Speaker 1: In about an hour.
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Speaker 2: We'll tell you exactly what is happening with that. Also, new job support came out today showing a robust economy. All this talk about the recession is not the case, but lack of employment did go up. We'll talk to an economists to explain why that happened.
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Speaker 2: Republicans love to say that there's no systemic racism in America, yet we continue to see systemic racism in the housing industry. The BIDE administration is trying to tackle that. Vice President Kama Harris on Thursday held a call with various news media outlet talking.
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Speaker 1: About these new rules.
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Speaker 2: She announced that financial institutions must ensure that their appraisal algorithms are not biased and do not produce low valuations for homes owned by people of color. The administration is also released in guidance to make it easier for consumers to appeal what they suspect to be biased valuations.
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Speaker 1: Harris noted that only about.
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Speaker 2: Five percent of home appraises or people of color, and shared the administration hopes to grow through training opportunities for groups unrepresented in the industry.
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Speaker 1: The move is part of an effort to ensure fail.
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Speaker 2: Algorithms and increase transparency for home valuations. Harris described home ownership as one of the ways for American families to build wealth. Joining us right now as Antoine Thomson Permanet, Director the National Association of Real Estate Brookers. So actually, so for we'll pull them up later. We pull up my panel right now. Michael m Hotep host the African History Network show out of Detroit. Matt Manning, civil rights attorney out of Corpus Christie doctor, Avis Jones de Weaver, political analysts out of National Harbor, Maryland. Matt, I want to start with you what I did this show with Patrick Bett. David this key claims as independent, but he's hardcore conservative out of Florida, and.
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Speaker 1: Systemic bias came up.
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Speaker 2: I talked about, you know, these home appraisals, and he's like, oh no, I believe that. Well, his his team was very slow and pulled the data up, so I said, find, I'll do it. So I pulled up the New York Times report with the Biden administration detailed using Census data, the racism in home appraisals. I mean they literally looked at the data and said, Okay, what are the appraisals in this census track compared to this one. And then he tried to say, want to believe it. I'm like, oh, so I give you the proof. Now you don't believe it. Well, this right here is.
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Speaker 1: A kind of proof.
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Speaker 2: We're talking about African Americans are being negatively impacted when we talk about these algorithms, and what happens is these folks are praising the homes of black folks and others at a much lower value. And then what happens is you're trying to resell your home and you can't. If you do, you're showing at a lower price, and so therefore you're not maximizing your profit. That continues to be racism in the housing industry.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, it absolutely does.
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Speaker 9: And you have to be just completely you know, blind, or have amnesia to not realize that. Every few years, a story comes out, and they're largely anecdotal, but a story comes out about a family who got a bad appraisal. Black family usually is a bad appraisal, and then they hide their race and then the appraisal is considerably higher.
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Speaker 8: Right.
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Speaker 9: So, from just an easy demonstrable standpoint, you see that this happens because we see stories about it continuously and we know that it happens, and I'm glad that the Biden administration is addressing this. What I am concerned about, and I'm hoping that your guest will clarify for me, is how they intend to cure the algorithm process, because what concerns me is if the information that goes in is inherently flawed, then it will come out with flawed results. And presumably they have some control for that, but that would be my concern. You know, if you're looking at communities that have been historically undervalue, then putting that data in is presumably going to skew the data. But outside of that curative question, I'm glad to hear this because, as we know, home ownership is by far the primary vehicle for not only generational wealth, but for people of all colors to build wealth. So the idea that we are systemic,
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systemically being discriminated against in the values of our homes purely because of race and purely because of you know, discrimination is a horrible thing and literally take money out of people's pockets. So I'm glad that the administration sees this as a priority and is addressing it, you know, And what's.
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Speaker 1: Interesting here again, Michael.
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Speaker 2: Republicans want to deny this reality. You can have numerous stories where black homeowners say, oh, white appraiser came in and value the home at this, and then we took all the black pictures down, we stripped in all this blackness, and we had some white friends welcome. Then all of a sudden, it's valued one hundred and two or three hundred thousand dollars higher.
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Speaker 10: Hello, yeah, Roland, I've dealt with people like that.
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Speaker 11: I've been on panels with black conservatives as well, more like grifters, because we've always had black conservatives, but most of the time they made sense. Historically, we had Craig the Louse here on this show and Recee COVID and I dealt with him from Project twenty one. So these black conservatives parrot talking points from white conservatives. They cannot admit systemic racism exists because if they admit that systemic racism exists, then they will be tasked to provide policies to address systemic racism. They don't have policies to address systemic racism because it's not in the black conservatives advantage, is not in their best interest to address it because the people who are paying them benefit from systemic racism.
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Speaker 10: Racism is systemic by nature.
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Speaker 11: Racism is a system of advantage and privilege distributed based upon race. So they'll say that they believe that racism exists, but they'll believe racism exists, but they don't believe systemic racism exists.
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Speaker 10: That's a lot.
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Speaker 11: Ninety seven percent of Homer praisers are white. Black Conservatives don't want to address that because then they'll be forced to do something about it.
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Speaker 10: So the bid the Harris administration.
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Speaker 11: Actually, President Joe Biden back June one, twenty one, one hundredth anniversary of the commemoration of the TUSA Race Masker, when he was down in Tulsa, he announced initiatives of by the Harris administration to address systemic racism when it comes to home values, things of this nature. Okay, so this is a continuation of this. This is definitely needed. And all those simple Simon Asids out there who talk about the Vice President Kamala Harris isn't doing anything. The buying Harris administration isn't doing anything. Compare this to what Republicans are doing because they don't want to even acknowledge that this problem exists.
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Speaker 2: Do we have Antoine Thompson there all right, So we're having some technical issues there, you know, you know, on this front. And again when we talk about the wealth gap, we talk about the lack of wealth. This right here, Matt, is a perfect example. When our homes are selling for less twenty thirty fifty one hundred, two hundred thousand dollars, that's money we can't invest, that's money we can't buy other things.
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Speaker 9: Yeah, you're exactly right, and it's especially impactful because it's not some nebulous men by which discrimination is occurring.
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Speaker 1: Right.
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Speaker 9: It puts a dollar value on that we are one hundred thousand dollars less up essentially than we would be if we sold our house if the appraisal were appropriate. And that's particularly true as we talk in the national zeitgeist about you know, people in the younger generations on being unable to buy homes. So the idea that families are investing in homes and want the latitude to move once they sell a home and are getting disadvantage purely because of how they look, and that's taking away from their ability to buy a new home and or to invest. To your point is especially problematic, and I think it's good in framing the discrimination issue because it's not purely a question of what is the mental anguish worth or what is the emotional toll of this worth. It's literally, we are down two hundred thousand dollars where we should be up two hundred thousand dollars because of the appraisal. And I think that's helpful for framing the issue and also for people seeing the gravity of the issue, understanding how important the home ownership is to the building of wealth.
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Speaker 2: And I just get a kick out of these people, Michael, who act as if, oh, we're just making these things up and it's really no big deal. But the reality is the one area where most Americans have been able to generate wealth, it is through home ownership.
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Speaker 1: And when and.
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Speaker 2: When you look at African Americans, we've never hit fifty percent of home ownership in this country. And so even when we do own homes, we still are having to deal with Jim.
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Speaker 10: Crow Well absolutely Roland.
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Speaker 11: And once again this goes back to my premise, is not in Republican's interests to admit that this problem exists, because then they would have to deal with a history of laws and policies that create that now distributed wealth and pound resources into the hands of Europeans right now.
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Speaker 10: You know, the Brookings Institute in the past few.
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Speaker 11: Years came up with this study that shows that African Americans homes are valued at forty eight thousand dollars less than comparable white homes that accumulates to one hundred and fifty six billion.
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Speaker 10: Dollars in less value than our homes.
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Speaker 3: Have.
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Speaker 10: This negatively impacts of generational wealth.
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Speaker 11: When you look at the GI Bill nineteen forty four, signing the law by President Roosevelt, the GI Bill is one of those bills in the
twentieth century that drastically maldistributed wealth pound resources because white veterans were able to get La lunchance loans to buy homes, go to college, and start businesses, whereas African Americans were disproportionately discriminated when it took advantage of taking advantage of the benefits that one we earned by serving in the military, serving in World War two and.
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Speaker 10: Two are taxpayer dollars were paying for.
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Speaker 11: But when you try to address things like this, then you have somebody like a Senator to Tam Scott who says that America is not a racist country. And when he made that statement, everybody needs to look at what his next statement was. His next statement was, and I'm paraphrasing, it's wrong to have race based policies or policies that addressed that discrimination. He's talking about reparations, he's talking about dealing with things like critical race theory, etc.
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Speaker 10: Okay, so this is the playbook Republicans.
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Speaker 1: All right, folks, welcome back.
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Speaker 2: Joining us right now is Antoine Thompson, former head of the Top of Black real estate group National Association of Real Estate Brokers ed Twine, So, uh, you know your thoughts on this announcement by Vice President Kamala Harris what the Body administration is doing when it comes to combating housing discrimination in the algorithms.
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Speaker 8: First, thank you for having me. Yes, it's desperately needed.
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Speaker 19: I think it's the biases with the algorithms has been a big issue for many years. But I wanted to understand that it's one of many things that needs to happen to deal with the biases and the appraisal industry.
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Speaker 1: You know, you just share with should we share, folks with?
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Speaker 2: What what y'all have seen?
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Speaker 1: What you had to contend with when we.
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Speaker 2: Talk about how homes are valued and how black people and other people of color are negative, negatively impacted by lower valuations.
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Speaker 19: Yeah, it's it's it's it's really heartbreaking. I had I've been a real estate twelve years. I also used to run the Black real Estate Group, and I can tell you that firsthand of people.
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Speaker 8: I had a guy in.
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Speaker 19: Buffalo where I'm Trump, but I live in Upper Martin, Maryland, and he had to he he had an appraisal when when they thought it was a black person owning it. It came in one hundred thousand dollars one hundred and fifty thousand dollars lower.
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Speaker 8: And he was a real it was a real estate investment.
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Speaker 19: Right, and everything around him was doubling in value in terms of multi unit dwellings, you know, apartment building. He had a white guy. I told him to have a white guy go and be there for the next appraisal.
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Speaker 1: He did it.
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Speaker 8: He did, value doubled, and he was happy. I tried to get in.
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Speaker 19: A follow complaint, but he was afraid to do that. He didn't want all the press and heat on him for that.
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Speaker 8: And that often happens. There are more black people that experienced this. We know that something is not right. We hear about the stories.
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Speaker 19: We know about our houses that are building on one side of the town. Go right across the Saint One Street and the same house is worth more. Same thing in Prince George's County living Prince George County, Maryland, compared to Montgomery County, Maryland, same home, same builder.
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Speaker 8: It's almost two hundred thousand.
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Speaker 19: Dollars difference in value, and that robs families of wealth. That's lessening the opportunity of people to be able to invest in their retirement to invest in small businesses into as one great media moguls said, you know, no home, no loan, because.
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Speaker 8: You need a loan, you need a home for collateral.
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Speaker 19: That's your number one way for collateral for your business.
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Speaker 8: So it's really important.
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Speaker 19: And I think that the algorithm that's been an issue not only for appraisals, but it's also been a big problem for mortgage lending because, believe it or not, they use algorithms when they're doing credit underwriting as well, not just for their.
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Speaker 2: Process questions for our guests beat you first.
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Speaker 9: Yeah, so Antwine, thank you for explaining that. The question that I have is how do they go about curing the algorithm process. So in terms of the data, what is your understanding on how they will make sure that the data that's going in provides good data coming out, Because my concern is if the data is skewed in terms of you know, depressed values artificially, right, then theoretically if it goes into the algorithm, then you're just going to get bad results.
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Speaker 10: What's your understanding of how we intend to fix that?
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Speaker 19: So you know, part of part of the challenge that you have is in your right on if garbage going in is garbage going out, We're going to have to really have a redo of the data that they're currently using, the models that they're using. UH and the vice present absolutely correct the industry. It's it's only gotten more difficult for African Americans to be successful in.
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Speaker 8: The appraisal industry.
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Speaker 19: But because of the escalating prices of the type of escalating prices of mortgage rate, a lot of black and white people are fleeing the industry over the last year. So even with the things they're trying to do, I would say two things that we need to let Number one is we not only we need good data going in, but the current data that they're using, not just the algorithms. The ones that are writing the programs you don't have. You probably don't have a lot of blacks that are writing the programs for these companies, for the main companies that are doing the writing the systems.
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Speaker 8: That that's really important making sure that there's an equity lens of that.
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Speaker 19: And then also the ones who are on the front when we talk about reporting those appraisers.
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Speaker 8: They look at the data that they have in front of them.
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Speaker 19: And then they make a judgment, right, they make a judgment, and oftentimes that judgment is like really really subjective, and that's a big part of the problem that no one wants to talk about. The same mission true when you go on through the mortgage problems, everyone
tries to say, oh, well, the mortgage process is not biased.
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Speaker 8: Well, there's underwriting criteria that's used.
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Speaker 19: And then first the computer does this due diligence on credit scoring, which.
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Speaker 8: That whole model of algorithms is bad.
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Speaker 19: Then once you go to the underwriting fit that is very subjective. And then on top of that you have the appraiser, which is also very very biased.
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Speaker 8: So just the gogorithms.
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Speaker 19: Alone will not fix the problem, but that is a bold step in the right direction.
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Speaker 11: Michael Hey Antoine, when we hear stories dealing with African Americans who had white people sitting as the homeowners and their home value shoots up one hundred fifty thousand, and stories that I read dealing with this, we see that about ninety seven percent.
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Speaker 10: Of home appraisers are white.
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Speaker 11: Okay, one, can you explain briefly why this is into what can be done to diversify the homer praises? Getting more African Americans into the business of being home appraisers.
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Speaker 19: Yeah, you know, the the that's industry.
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Speaker 8: It breaks your It breaks my heart.
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Speaker 19: It makes me so angry when you I could tell you probably at least fifty stories of people.
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Speaker 8: That this has happened to.
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Speaker 19: I can ever tell you my own story of when I bought my last house I live in when a black mortgage loan officer and I was running a black real estate group and been in real estate at that point ten years, told me they wanted my rental record. And I'm so like almost one hundred houses at that point, and and they wanted my rental record. I told them, you know, kick rock and I went one another lender and my and my job had a relationship with these so they wanted my rental history from my from my mortgage. So on the flip side in terms of appraisal appraisal process, you.
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Speaker 8: Know, they what we need to do to fix it? One, Uh, We've got to start our kids younger. We got to market. We have to market this to people, helping them.
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Speaker 19: Understand we for people to start more appraisal companies.
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Speaker 8: We need to get scholarships for people to do that. We've got to treat it as a big priority. We're lacking black appraisers.
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Speaker 19: We're lacking in black underwriters as well, so we're losing.
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Speaker 8: On both sides.
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Speaker 19: Even the whole model system of how you get paid to be an appraiser, to get to be a mortgage loan officer, both of those put our black communities at a significant disadvantage, and so it's hard to keep people in the appraisal industry.
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Speaker 8: That's the way they get paid.
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Speaker 19: The current values of most black properties around the country. H it makes it very challenging to get black people in the industry because it's a you know, if you don't work, you don't eat business, right, and it requires a lot of schooling. It only added more and more and more requirements on in many of the markets to be an appraiser.
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Speaker 8: So it's very discouraging for blacks who go into the industry.
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Speaker 1: Okay, thank you, all right, and Twine, we surely appreciate it.
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Speaker 8: Thanks a lot, thank you, Thank you.
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Speaker 2: All right, folks, we've talked about these hair issues in this country when black people are being targeted, well, a Louisiana principle is literally trying to defend.
00:28:59
Speaker 1: You need the black seventh grade. Check this out.
00:29:04
Speaker 2: She told this young young man if his decision to braid his hair meant he was trying to quote be a gangster going to Ashby Thorn, Doctor Angela that of Calvrey Baptistuse. Calvary Baptists, a private school in Sly Deal asked her son Dayla about his hairstyle. Ashley and her husband Damon, met with Messman the next day you discussed he had said. During the meeting, mess Been told the parents she had some concerns. Quote I've never had a student weather braids like that. I've had teachers personally come to me and ask about his hair and what I thought about it. I've seen children grow up in this school, and I've seen them change. So I was just checking to see where we are. I just wanted to see his heart. Our culture is changing. Little boys used to have regular little haircuts. I'm seeing a lot of young people listening to a lot of rappers, pushing for.
00:29:57
Speaker 1: Drugs and doing things opposite of Christ. Oh.
00:30:03
Speaker 2: So in a second, we're going to talk to Ashley Thorne about this, My goodness, what the hell, Matt.
00:30:13
Speaker 8: Well.
00:30:16
Speaker 9: What I find particularly insidious about this is that she was trying to almost encapsulate these respectability politics and from a standpoint of, like, I really care about this child, I'm worried about you rather than my discrimination and prejudices on display. And it's Louisiana. I mean, there are a lot of black people in Louisiana. Braids are very common hairstyle. So to think that that is somehow tantamount to be in a gangster and to have the audacity to ask this kid that and put him in a position where he has to advocate for himself for his hairstyle and his culture is just disgusting to me. And it's especially disgusting that it comes from the same kind of thing.
00:30:55
Speaker 10: That we see white people do.
00:30:56
Speaker 9: Just like the sheriff of Myke County, he's always talking about a refer going back to Mayberry, right, and this erstwhile time loss in society where everybody was living in Pleasantville and that one never existed and two dog whistles, not black people, and that's what happened in this instance. And it's just disgusting, and I hope that this family considers a Title six lawsuit if this school is receiving federal funding, because there's entirely too much information about this for you to continue making comments like this, particularly to a young child.
00:31:30
Speaker 2: Kellyb Cathedrals right now. Communications strateg is, Kelly, I'm tripping on.
00:31:37
Speaker 1: I was just concerned. I had concern about him. Where are we going with this?
00:31:45
Speaker 18: Yeah, it's unfortunately not news to me that white people don't understand black hair.
00:31:54
Speaker 7: Three.
00:31:54
Speaker 16: That is four of the five.
00:31:56
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Oh, I was hearing backing.
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Speaker 18: Yeah, it's it's it's unfortunate that, like Matt said, this was kind of wrapped in this very much care and concern and that uh, backhanded compliments, passive aggressiveness and the like. But also considering, if I'm reading correctly, this is coming from a private Christian school, it is deeply rooted in Eurocentricity, specifically Eurocentric Christianity.
00:32:30
Speaker 7: As if Jesus' hair wasn't like wool and probably was braided too.
00:32:37
Speaker 18: You know, people don't really think about that, and I don't understand how when you have biblical stories about how Samson's strength came from his hair, and how you have, you know, almost tenets of how to not cut.
00:32:52
Speaker 7: Your hair.
00:32:55
Speaker 18: For that to be ignored for the sake of Eurocentricity is is incredibly hypocritical, but it's also very on brand for American Christianity.
00:33:10
Speaker 1: It's all to me, this is called nut case Landmichael.
00:33:15
Speaker 10: Roland.
00:33:15
Speaker 23: There's there's so many things wrong with this story. Okay. First of all, she says that she sees rappers pushing drug dealing and all type of negative things like this, But she doesn't call out the right white corporations that paid the rappers to push drug dealings.
00:33:32
Speaker 10: She doesn't talk about that. She talks about.
00:33:35
Speaker 11: His uh, his his his braids, his actions that are not christ like. As Kelly was saying, when we talk about Yeshua, it's more likely that his hair was in locks or in braids than it was straight or blonde. And then you know, she talks about how concerned she is and she's seen children change and things of this nature. Well, maybe if you have more black history in this school, maybe if you have more history dealing with the contributions that African Americans made to society, maybe they wouldn't have those problems of them changing for the negative, et cetera. So, you know, these are these microaggressions dog slash dog whistles that we have to deal with on a daily basis. Man, So hopefully, hopefully these parents are able to come to some type of reconciliation, and there also needs to be some cultural bias training instituted at that school as well.
00:34:35
Speaker 2: Ashley and Damon Thorne join us right now. Glad to have both of them here. Ashley, I'll start with you. I'm just I mean, first of all, describe the reaction of the two of you sitting there listening to this white woman say these things like like your child just lost his mind and is going off the deep end because he got braids.
00:35:03
Speaker 8: Right.
00:35:04
Speaker 24: Of course, in the beginning, you know, I was angry, you know, hearing that come from my son because he was confused, he didn't understand why he was being questioned in the first place about braids. So of course, sitting in that office with her and hearing the things that.
00:35:21
Speaker 5: Were irrelevant to what we were there about, it got to the point where it was more funny.
00:35:26
Speaker 24: I couldn't be angry because she was so ignorant to the fact that she didn't think she said anything wrong.
00:35:37
Speaker 2: I'm struck by this whole I'm struck, damon, I'm struck by this whole deal, Like.
00:35:44
Speaker 1: Like he's going through some kind of crisis. I mean, is this I just want to make sure is everything okay? Is he losing it? Like, like, what the hell?
00:35:56
Speaker 8: It's crazy. So, so my son, he's into an enemy. You know, he knows nothing about.
00:36:01
Speaker 25: Gangster or anything like that. So when she asked him that, he was like he didn't know what she was talking about. So when he comes to us now, we have to explain to him, you know why, like you know, oh, there's nothing wrong with your hair, son, there's nothing wrong when you didn't do anything wrong.
00:36:20
Speaker 8: I just have to explain to you this how people, you.
00:36:22
Speaker 25: Know, people view certain things in this nature when they're closed minded, you know that they're not even open to anything.
00:36:31
Speaker 8: During our recording we recorded the.
00:36:32
Speaker 5: Interview, I mean, it's it's crazy.
00:36:36
Speaker 26: When I was trying to let her know how long braids been around since before Christ and how it was used as an art form, and she just started talking about rappers instantly, and I was like, what are you talking about, ma'am?
00:36:53
Speaker 24: We're talking about It was a bunch of irrelevant situations that she brought up that had absolutely nothing to do with our son. We even asked her several times like okay, but was this to have to do with Dalen?
00:37:07
Speaker 5: And she's like, oh, Damon is so sweet, he's so.
00:37:10
Speaker 24: Respectful, which we were like, exactly, you didn't see a change in his behavior. You didn't see a change in his attitude. You only saw his hair change. And we're asking her, so why would you question if that's not a problem.
00:37:24
Speaker 5: Oh no, the braves are fine. So we were confused.
00:37:28
Speaker 24: She couldn't give us a straight answer, and at that point I guess like she told us shrugging and saying, oh, all I can do is apologize, And of course that's that's not enough.
00:37:39
Speaker 5: That's not enough.
00:37:43
Speaker 2: So, first of all, the decision for him to change his hairstyle, was it yours or did he say, you know what wants some braids?
00:37:52
Speaker 27: He had been asking, Yeah, he's been actual would change his hairstyle.
00:37:56
Speaker 25: He had worn his hair just kind of like mine.
00:37:58
Speaker 8: For a long long time, so he just wanted to change it.
00:38:02
Speaker 5: So we actually and he saw other kids at the school with brace.
00:38:05
Speaker 8: I'm right, So he was just like, can I wear my head, different weight.
00:38:12
Speaker 27: I did, and you know, he was excited about it, and then went to school the.
00:38:16
Speaker 7: Very next day and then this
happened.
00:38:18
Speaker 1: So yeah, and really what this is. I mean, we've seen we've seen these things before. We've seen uh. I'll tell you.
00:38:29
Speaker 2: I remember when I was the Dallas Mavericks had a media day, uh, and I remember we were sitting at the tables of the journalists and this white this white male journalist start talking about how Alan Iverson was a thug. And I was like, the hell are you talking about? And he was talking about his hair. I said, well, Cherokee park Cherke, I got Cherokee Parks who played for Mavericks. His ass wore a mullet. I said, well, what the hell wrong on his head? And I jammed him up and I told him, I said, see, I said, first of all, and so I mean, I start pressing his ass and so and so he realized that, oh I stepped in it.
00:39:10
Speaker 1: And I said, let me tell you something. I said, this is what y'all white boys do.
00:39:13
Speaker 2: I said, y'all white boys get together and y'all make these statements, and y'all write these stories and then you discuss it on sports talk radio. I said, then all of a sudden, that then becomes the narrative all around the country. And what you're seeing, and what you're seeing is in this principle's mind the moment she see braids, she's thinking, oh my god, that's a thug, that's a gangster.
00:39:38
Speaker 10: Instantly, instantly.
00:39:40
Speaker 24: And I asked her, I said, is that protocol to ask every student that comes in with braids? Is that protocol to ask them that? And she's like, oh no, So I'm like, okay, well again.
00:39:50
Speaker 5: Why did you ask my son?
00:39:52
Speaker 24: You know, my son he had the first thing, Like I said, initially, it was anger. Of course, when he came that day, we talked to him about it, and I just kind of wanted to.
00:40:03
Speaker 5: See how he felt.
00:40:04
Speaker 24: And he was confused, and I asked him, you know, well, what did your friends say, because of course he's pulled aside by the principal. Of course they're gonna wonder, oh, what happened why she pulled you to a side?
00:40:15
Speaker 5: Well, he told them, and I said, well what did they say?
00:40:18
Speaker 24: And of course one of his fellow students said that was racist?
00:40:23
Speaker 5: And I said, well, how did you feel?
00:40:24
Speaker 24: He said? I agreed, and I said, you have every right to feel that way. And I asked him was he offended? And he said yes, And I told him he has every right to feel that way.
00:40:33
Speaker 2: Also, were so have y'all taken this thing higher to the school board, to board trustees of what's next for you?
00:40:45
Speaker 27: So actually someone suggested we seek some type of legal consul because on the recording she I mean, we never even brought up race now.
00:40:56
Speaker 1: One time, and she did.
00:40:58
Speaker 25: She started talking about black people and rappers and all this other stuff. And we were like, ma'am, what are you talking about. We're talking about my son, right.
00:41:08
Speaker 24: And she brought she brought up sagging paints.
00:41:13
Speaker 8: Up sagging pants.
00:41:14
Speaker 5: It's all these stereotypes.
00:41:15
Speaker 8: My son doesn't say at all.
00:41:17
Speaker 27: If you see him, he actually wears his parents a little too high.
00:41:21
Speaker 4: That his very pleas, you know.
00:41:23
Speaker 1: So it's so funny.
00:41:24
Speaker 8: I had to start bringing up this stuff like and I was just like.
00:41:27
Speaker 10: You know, and I told her, I did. I told her, I said.
00:41:29
Speaker 25: Ma'am, you know, I wish you would open up your mind a little more.
00:41:33
Speaker 8: Apparently you know, you lack.
00:41:35
Speaker 25: Some kind of cultural shaming, right or something, because you know, this is nothing for you to be feeling however you feel about it. This is nothing for you to be feeling that way. My son has braids, that's it, right, you know. And it's funny because you know how many you know, kids that have shot up these schools.
00:41:55
Speaker 8: How many of them have braids? You know?
00:41:58
Speaker 25: Like, are you offended by the other hamst Houser, as she called it, the regular cuts.
00:42:04
Speaker 24: When she's like, yeah, I'm used to kids with the normal, regular haircuts, and again that doesn't describe our son. So we're seeking legal counsel.
00:42:17
Speaker 5: We have yet find somebody.
00:42:21
Speaker 24: We're looking for legal counsel, which is why we haven't released the recording because we want to make sure we do this correctly. It's a private school, so of course there are steps, but this particular board that they have, it seems that they.
00:42:38
Speaker 5: Stand with her want to talk about it, so we're trying to.
00:42:42
Speaker 24: I don't want to let this be swept under the rug because she's comfortable with doing this. She's done it before, same kind of situation, and I guess she gives them this.
00:42:53
Speaker 5: Will I apologize, you know, and.
00:42:56
Speaker 24: That's supposed to be it. I don't think we should sweep it's under the rug. She's done it too many times.
00:43:02
Speaker 5: She doesn't need to be in any authority over children.
00:43:06
Speaker 25: It should always be consequences for everyone's actions, especially those in high authority, like that you're the principal.
00:43:14
Speaker 8: Of the school, so you have to leave by example.
00:43:16
Speaker 7: And I don't want to just bring about awareness.
00:43:18
Speaker 25: I want to actually do something to actually create some type of change, whether it's you know, her losing her job or she needs to understand that there's consequences.
00:43:28
Speaker 8: For her actions.
00:43:29
Speaker 25: You're not allowed to go around action kids a twelve year old if their hairstyle, I don't know, insinuating it something gangst her or something negative about it, and then goes on to say, oh.
00:43:43
Speaker 1: Well, how you wear your hair and your
clothes reflects God.
00:43:50
Speaker 7: His head, like.
00:43:51
Speaker 25: There's something wrong with what he's doing and he's done nothing wrong.
00:43:57
Speaker 2: I'm all right, folks, look keeps abreast of what happens, and good luck in your battle.
00:44:02
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Speaker 1: Landey Bush has been missing for Minneapolis since April thirtieth.
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Speaker 1: Well.
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Speaker 2: A third police officer, Nathan Woodyard, is said to be tried in September. A Missouri judge agrees to keep court documents sealed in the Ralph y'arl case because of threats against Andrew Lester, the white man who is being charged with shooting the Black team. Lester's lawyers asked Clay County Judge Lewis Angles to seal court records because Lester has had to relocate three times since last month's shooting.
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Speaker 1: The judge express concerned that not sealing the documents could.
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Speaker 2: Also lead to witness intimidation, which could influence the case outcome. Lester has pleaded not guilty to charges of assault in the first degree an armed criminal action in the case remains out of out of custody after posting a twenty.
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Speaker 1: Thousand dollars bond.
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00:48:20
Speaker 1: Penny was charged last month, and the death of Jordan.
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00:50:42
Speaker 1: Hey, what's up y'all? Devon Franklin, It is always a pleasure to be in the house. You are watching Rose Martin Unfiltered. Stay right now, all right, folks. Momentarily President Joe Biden.
00:50:58
Speaker 2: Is gonna be speaking from the Oval Office about the debt Silly Agreement that he has signed into law. The House of course passed and the Senate passes this week as well. It allows for the United States to continue to borrow, making sure you're not going to see the economy tank. Also, it's been a good day for the bid administration because the new job numbers came out showing more and more jobs being added at a higher rate that people actually expected. This, of course is critical because again all these dooms doom series, they'd be like, oh God, recession, resession, recession, but it's not happening. And so three and thirty nine thousand jobs were created in the month of May. Now, black unemployment did increase, and so we originally had doctor Cecilia Rous, who's the former head of the White House Council of Economic Advisors, booked on the show. But because we've both talked to her right now, because Biden is going to be talking momentarily, so Control is going to let me know when he goes up, and so that's why we so we're probably talking to her on Monday.
00:52:03
Speaker 1: So here's President Joe Bidam of the Old Office.
00:52:07
Speaker 6: She sup we're over the Democrats and Republican can no longer work together. But I refuse to believe that because America can never give into that way of thinking. The only way American democracy can function is through compromise and consensus. And that's what I work to do as your president, you know, to forge bipartisan agreement whereas possible and where it's needed. I've signed more than three hundred and fifty bipartisan laws thus far in two and a half years, including the historic law that rebuilding America so that we can rank number one in the world in infrastructure instead of what we're ranked now number thirteen.
00:52:46
Speaker 14: In the world.
00:52:47
Speaker 6: Another historic law rebuilding our manufacturing base so that we'll lead the world once again and making semiconductor chips so much more, and so many more, and so many were sophisticated ones. And now I'm bipartisan budget agreement. This is vital because it's essential to the progress we've made over the last few years, is keeping full faith and credit of the United States of America and passing a budget that continues to grow our economy and reflects.
00:53:16
Speaker 14: Our values as a nation.
00:53:18
Speaker 6: That's why I'm speaking tonight to report on the crisis of vertic and what we're doing to protect the America's future. Passing this budget agreement was critical. The stakes could not have been higher if we had failed to reach an agreement on the budget. There were extreme voices threatening to take America for the first time in our two hundred and forty seven year history, into default on our national debt.
00:53:43
Speaker 14: Nothing.
00:53:43
Speaker 6: Nothing would have been more irresponsible, Nothing would have been more catastrophic. Our economy would have been thrown in a recession. Retirement accounts from millions of Americans would have been decimated, eight million Americans would have lost their jobs. Default would have been have destroyed our nation's credit rating, which would have made everything from mortgages to car loans to funding for the government much more expensive.
00:54:10
Speaker 14: And we were taking years to climb out of that hole.
00:54:14
Speaker 6: And America's standing as the most trusted, reliable financial partner in the world would have been shattered. So it was critical to reach an agreement, and it's very good news for the American people. No one got everything they wanted, but the American people got what they needed. We averted an economic crisis, an economic collapse. We're cutting spending and bringing the deficits down at the same time, we're protecting important priorities from social security, to Medicare, to medicaid to veterans, to our transformational investments in infrastructure and clean energy. I want to commend Speaker McCarthy. You know he and I, we and our teams, we were able to get along and get things done. We were straightforward to phone number, completely honest with another, respectful with one another. Both sides operated in good faith. Both sides kept their word. And I also want to command other congressional leaders. House Minority Leader Jeffries, Senate Majority Leader of Schumer, Senate Minority Leader McConnell. They acted responsibly and put the good of the country ahead of politics. The final vote in both chambers was overwhelming, far more bipartisan than anyone thought was possible. So I want to thank the members of Congress voted at the pass this agreement, which I'm going to sign tomorrow and become the law.
00:55:38
Speaker 14: So here's what the deal does.
00:55:40
Speaker 6: First, it cut spending and over the next ten years, the deficit will be cut by more than one trillion dollars, and that will be on top of the record one point seven trillion one point seven trillion dollars. I already cut the deficit of my first two years in office, and it's clear we're all on a much more fiscally responsible course than the one I inherited when I took office four years ago.
00:56:04
Speaker 14: When I came to.
00:56:05
Speaker 6: Office, the deficit had increased every year the previous four years, and nearly eight trillion dollars would added to the national debt in the last administration. And now we're turning things around, and that's good for America. You know, my dad used to have an expression. He said, Joey, don't tell me what your value is. Show me your budget. I'll tell you what you value. That's at the heart of this debate. What do we value protecting seniors. You may remember during my State of the Union address there were spirit There was a spirit exchange between me and a few Republicans spontaneously occurring on the floor of the House Representatives. I was pointing out there for years some of them were putting forward proposals to cut Social Security, Medicare, and some of them that I took exception, and they said very loudly that that wasn't true. So I asked them on the floor at that night, I said, ask them a simple question. Will you agree not to cut Social Security, not to cut Medicare. Would they agree to protect these essential programs? There are a lifeline for millions of Americans, programs that these Americans have been paying into every single paycheck they've earned since they started working.
00:57:16
Speaker 14: And that provides so much peace of mind.
00:57:19
Speaker 6: With the bright lights and cameras on those three Republicans who were protesting, they agreed, They said they wouldn't cut it. That's how we protected Social Security, Medicare from the beginning and from it being cut period.
00:57:34
Speaker 14: Health Care was another priority for men, top priority.
00:57:37
Speaker 6: I made it clear from the outset I would not agreed to any cuts in Medicaid, another essential lifeline from millions of Americans, including children in poverty, the elderly and nursing homes, and Americans living with disabilities. The original House Republican proposal would have cut health care for up to twenty one million Americans on Medicaid, and I said no, And Medicare is protected, and so are millions of people most in need. Look, I long believe that the only one truly sacred obligation that the government has is to pare those we send in the harms way and care for them and their families when they come home and when they don't come home. That's why my last budget provided VA hospitals with additional funding for more doctors, nurses, and equipment to accommodate the needs of veterans and more appointments. The House Republican plan would have met thirty fewer million VA healthcare visits for our veterans.
00:58:40
Speaker 14: We didn't let that happen.
00:58:42
Speaker 6: In addition, this bill fully funds the Biparson Packdack, the most significant lawn in decades for veterans exposed a toxic burn pits and for their families. Expands access to those veterans and their families to healthcare and to disability benefits. Look, we're investing in America and our people and in our future. We've created over thirteen million new jobs, nearly eight hundred thousand manufacturing jobs. Where is it written in America can't lead the world again in manufacturing. Unemployment is at three point seven percent, more Americans are working today than ever in the history of this country, and inflation has dropped ten straight months in a row.
00:59:28
Speaker 14: In this debate, I refuse to put what was.
00:59:31
Speaker 6: Responsible for all this economic progress on the chopping block. This bipartisan agreement protects the law that will help us build the best infrastructure in the world. Fully protects the Chips and Science Act, which is going to bring key parts of our supply chain to America, so I need to rely on others like semiconductors, those tiny computer chips smaller than the tip of your finger that affect nearly everything we rely on, from cell phones to building on on bills, the most sophisticated weapons systems.
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Speaker 14: Done so much more.
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Speaker 6: We protected another law that I passed and signed last year that finally beat big farm, which I've been trying to do for over thirty years. It finally gives Medicare the power to negotiate lower drug prices, just like the.
01:00:18
Speaker 14: VA has been able to do for veterans.
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Speaker 6: This law has already dramatically cut the cost of insulin for seniors from as much as four hundred dollars a month to just thirty five dollars a month for insulin. Negotiating lower drug prices not only saves seniors a lot of money, it saves the country a lot of money.
01:00:37
Speaker 14: One hundred and sixty billion.
01:00:39
Speaker 6: Dollars that's not having to be paid out because drug prices are more rational. We pay the highest drug prices of any industrial.
01:00:47
Speaker 14: Nation in the world. And it's just the beginning. You know.
01:00:51
Speaker 6: We also protected the most significant breakthrough ever ever in dealing with existential threat of climate change today, and and.
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Speaker 14: Solar power is cheaper than fossil fuel.
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Speaker 6: Since I've been in office, clean energy and advanced manufacturing have brought in four one hundred and seventy billion dollars in private investments. It's going to create thousands of jobs, good paying jobs, all across this country and help the environment at the same time. Remember, at the beginning of this debate, some of our Republican college are determined to cut the clean energy investments. I said, no, we kept them all, and there's so much more to do. We're going to do even more to reduce the deficit. We need to control spending if we're going to do that, But we also have to raise revenue and go after tax cheats and make sure everybody's paying their fair share. No one, I promise, no one making less than four hundred thousand dollars a year will pay a penny more.
01:01:54
Speaker 14: In federal taxes. But like most of you at home, I know the federal tax system isn't fair.
01:02:00
Speaker 6: That's why I kept my commitment again that no one earning less than four hundred thousand dollars a year will pay a penny more in federal taxes. That's why last year I secured more funding to go, more IRS funding to go after wealthy tax cheats. The non partisan Congressional Budget Office, and it is nonpartisan, says that this bill will bring in one hundred and fifty billion dollars, and other outside.
01:02:25
Speaker 14: Experts expect that it would save as.
01:02:27
Speaker 6: Much as four hundred billion dollars because it's forcing people to pay their fair share. Republicans may not like it, but I'm going to make sure the wealthy pay their fair share. I'm also proposed to closing over a dozen special interest tax loopholes for big oil, crypto traders, hedge fund billionaires, saving taxpayers billions of dollars Republicans. Republicans defended every single one of these special interest loopholes, every single one. But I'm going to become I'm back, and with your help, I'm going to win. Right now, catch this right now. The average billionaire in America pays just eight percent in federal taxes. Eight percent teachers and firefighters pay more than that. That's why I propose the minimum tax for billionaires. Republicans are against it, but I'm going to keep fighting for it. No billionaires should pay less in federal taxes than the teachers or a firefighter.
01:03:27
Speaker 14: Look, let me close this.
01:03:30
Speaker 6: I know bipartnership is hard and unity is hard, but we can never stop trying because in moments like this one, the ones we just faced, where the American economy and the world economy is at the risk of collapsing, there's no other way, no matter how tough our politics cats. We need to see each others, not as adversaries, but as fellow Americans, treat each other with dignity and respect, to join forces as Americans, to stop showed, lower the temperature, and work together to pursue progress, secure prosperity, and keep the promise.
01:04:08
Speaker 14: Of America for everybody.
01:04:11
Speaker 6: As I've said in my inaugural address, without unity, there is no peace, only bitterness and fury, and we can never become that country. I can honestly say, I can honestly say to the other night that I've never been more optimistic about America's future.
01:04:31
Speaker 14: We just need to remember who we are.
01:04:33
Speaker 6: We are the United States of America, and there's nothing nothing we can't do when we do it together. Thank you all for listening, taking the time tonight to listen to me. Make God bless you all and make God protect our troops.
01:04:49
Speaker 14: Thank you.
01:04:52
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01:08:50
Speaker 2: All right, folks, welcome back to Rolling Martin don filter of the Black Star Network. Let's go right to my panel. We got Kelly Matt Michael Michael all start with you. Look by and purposely has not been taken a victory lap until after the Senate Act. It's very rare for presidents to give oval office addresses. Uh.
01:09:10
Speaker 1: This here clearly was his attempt to reframe this.
01:09:14
Speaker 2: Discussion and the tout how he's been able to actually get things done in a bipartisan way. You can look at the poll numbers, that's one thing, but he's racking up actual successes.
01:09:26
Speaker 10: He's racking up a whole lot of successes.
01:09:28
Speaker 11: This is just a continuation of the first two years of the Biden Harrison administration and this, this deal, this debt selling bill, could have been much worse when you look at what Republicans actually wanted. So he was able to masterfully negotiate this bill. Now McCarthy had to dance for the uh for the MAGA Republicans in the House of Representatives, but McCarthy already said defaulting on the debt is off the table. Okay, McCarthy wasn't going to let that happen. So there are some things in here that some of the progressives like some of the progressives and the House voted against it. The Fiscal Responsibility Act of twenty twenty three. You have the restarting of student loan payments. You have some people who will not be able to get SNAP funding things like this, but overall, it's going to be about seventy eight thousand more people per month who will qualify for SNAP benefits. So when we look at what Republicans were trying to we're trying to do. Just keep in mind that the difference between Kevin McCarthy being Speaker of the House and haw King Jeffrey's being the Speaker of the House was about seven thousand votes and a handful.
01:10:51
Speaker 10: Of districts that went for Republicans.
01:10:53
Speaker 11: Okay, so twenty twenty four, Democrats have to take back control of the House representatives and increase their lead and increase their margin in the Senate.
01:11:03
Speaker 1: M kelly, here's a deal, though, Biden, look play this thing smart.
01:11:07
Speaker 2: He knew the Republicans were not going to go for it, and so all he did was look at his Democratic numbers and say, I can bank those numbers. I was need to pick up a handful of Republicans. Boom, I got me a deal in the House. And that's what happened.
01:11:23
Speaker 7: That's exactly what happened.
01:11:24
Speaker 18: And I think it's you know, imperative for people to understand that bipartisan does not mean that all Republicans joined the Democrats for this deal. Like you said, you only need a handful of Republicans in order to push something through and in order for it to be considered bipartisan at all, and that's what Biden knows, and that's what Biden banks on, and that's what he did.
01:11:46
Speaker 7: So I applaud him.
01:11:47
Speaker 18: For understanding actual politics and you know he's an expert at it, and that he used that expertise in order to get.
01:11:55
Speaker 7: This deal done. Now a lot of people are saying, you know, I see the comments. You know how you mentioned how he.
01:12:02
Speaker 18: Has successes under his belt, and people are saying, well, how do you have successes but your approval rating is so low.
01:12:08
Speaker 7: Approval rating does not mean that you don't have any successes under your belt. Approval rating means that you don't know what those successes are as far as I'm concerned, And that goes.
01:12:16
Speaker 18: Back to the Biden administration's comms team and outreach not doing as great of a job as they could expressing exactly what Biden does for this country. So I think that with the proper outreach strategy on top of good policy and good lag going out, you know, not only will Biden's approval ratings go up, but Americans will actually understand what's going on and actually be pleased and not be relying on polls to decide who's approving and who's not.
01:12:50
Speaker 2: Well, here's the deal though, I mean the raality, Matt, what this White House has to do. They've got to learn to thok their like Trump did. He took for credit for crap he didn't even do. He was taking credit for bills and Obama signed, and so if for some reason Democrats don't like doing that, they think that looks like, oh, that's just a little too much.
01:13:15
Speaker 1: No, your job is to thump your chest, pound your chest, and it's like, yeah, we did it. I think about that scene.
01:13:22
Speaker 2: From Jungle Fever when when Wesley Schneip's playing Flipper was leaving, he was like, see that, that's.
01:13:31
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Speaker 2:
Sometimes, dog, you got to tell folks, yo, that's my shit.
01:13:40
Speaker 3: I did that.
01:13:42
Speaker 9: Roland, my brother, Thank you for giving me this question, because when I heard Biden speaking, I heard my name is Joseph R. Biden, and I'm running to be your president again in twenty twenty four.
01:13:52
Speaker 10: Let me tell you all the ways that I'm dope. Let me tell you all the ways the Republicans are messed up.
01:13:56
Speaker 9: Let me tell you about the cheeto in chief who left office with all these problems and how I'm fixing them.
01:14:01
Speaker 10: I thought this was real fireside chatty.
01:14:03
Speaker 9: It felt like FDR probably back in the thirties, where he's sitting and he starts talking about the debt ceiling, but then it goes into all these other issues where he wants to make it exceedingly clear to the American people that he's working on their behalf.
01:14:15
Speaker 10: And you know, look, the.
01:14:16
Speaker 9: Reality of it is you're talking politicians encapsulating things the way that they need to in order to garner support. But to your point, I think that this White House, as we've talked about many times on the show, needs to be better about this. And I think this was actually done in a very effective way. I think the pros that he chose was very unifying. I think the kind of tenor of what he talked about was coming together, especially on something like a debt ceiling, one where a lot of people don't fully understand what that means in practice, but just the idea that hey, I reached across the aisle, I called the people on the other.
01:14:49
Speaker 1: Side and make things work to your benefit.
01:14:52
Speaker 9: I think he was effective in that respect, and I think what we're seeing is that he's already starting to counter the Santists and the Republic and all this stuff that you know, we know is going to be on the far extreme. He's already shooting for that middle and Middle America in particular, to tell him, hey, I'm still your president, I'm still working for you, and I'm going to make sure there's a chicken in every pot in America.
01:15:14
Speaker 2: Look, this is campaign time, and again all of these people have been yelling and screaming, Michael, the economy is pulling.
01:15:25
Speaker 1: Aboor, We're having a recession. And look all these look I remember September they were yelling recession.
01:15:36
Speaker 10: I remember.
01:15:38
Speaker 2: Jamie Diamond, Jeff Bezos, all these people. Amazon, start laying people off, Facebook, start laying people off, everybody, all these tech companies they all were talking about. And then all of these companies were pulling their advertising. We have felt that impact as well, all these pulling their money left and right, saying you know, we have.
01:16:03
Speaker 1: To prepare for the recession. We're now in June. No recession.
01:16:11
Speaker 3: Right.
01:16:11
Speaker 11: So you have people like Jamie Diamond, you have people
like Jeff Bezos, but then you have the coup plotters over at Fox TV. Then you have the people like represent the Byron Donalds, who the Congressional Black Caucus didn't even want. Republican from Florida, who you've had here on the show. You kicked this behind when he was here on the show rolling. So you have those who are betting against America because they want the economy to fall out.
01:16:36
Speaker 10: These Republicans.
01:16:37
Speaker 11: What they wanted, what some of these Maca Republicans wanted to do, was to actually default on the debt, tank the economy and then blame Biden for tanking the economy so that Republicans can win back to White House in twenty twenty four.
01:16:50
Speaker 10: Is not going to work.
01:16:52
Speaker 11: You're part of this, you are cool plotter sympathizers, or you are part of the coup. And we have to keep asking the question, why do why do these people want the economy to feel Why don't they want the economy to grow, Why don't they want jobs to be created?
01:17:09
Speaker 10: So, once again, this is an example of how elections have.
01:17:13
Speaker 11: Consequences, and we need to vote these people out of power, make sure they stay out of power.
01:17:18
Speaker 2: But the thing here, Kelly, that we have to have to have to recognize again, they were all yelling the recession. I saw this clip earlier Maria bartar Ramo, who was just sick to her stomach. Also that punk ass Joe Kanca who's a commentator on the Fox News so called fake media analyst, that's what he is, and they were just like, well, you know, we're just so surprised, boy this, You know that they just keep the estimates, keep saying this, but then the reality comes out.
01:17:45
Speaker 1: But here's the deal, and then they try to cite the inflation.
01:17:48
Speaker 2: The reason inflation is still high because these companies are jacking up prices because they spear theft.
01:17:56
Speaker 31: It's greed.
01:17:57
Speaker 1: That's why inflation is still high.
01:18:01
Speaker 18: Well, not only that, but I think that the reason why Republicans are kind of spinning their wheels here is because they don't have a narrative if nothing is failing, right, their whole machine is rooted in fear and propaganda. And when you do not have a story that has a modicum of truth to that fear and propaganda, they don't have anything to build their lies upon except their own lies. And right now they don't have a new lie to tout. And that's the issue here. So the fact of the matter is whether there's a recession or not. Right now, we don't have one, so they don't have anything to build that fear off of. We got the job support today, jobs are going great. They can't use those numbers to push propaganda in fear because that's, you know, a check in the Democrat's column.
01:18:52
Speaker 7: So they're spinning their wheels because they don't have a process.
01:18:57
Speaker 18: They don't have a strategy outside of propaganda pushing fear and making MAGA supporters feel better about the crappy lives that they're living.
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01:23:27
Speaker 4: Now.
01:23:27
Speaker 1: Math is a critical area. We're seeing lower scores in.
01:23:33
Speaker 2: This country and so there's an effort to try to get those boosted. My next guest is the author of Building Brighter Kids from kindergarten to college. Founding the CEO of Building Brighter Kids, Betta Green Johnson, she created Confident Calculators Camp to help students learn the eight math skills that middle schools need to succeed in math and beyond.
01:23:55
Speaker 1: She joins us from Papano Beach of Florida.
01:23:57
Speaker 2: All Right, Vida, so as you're you're so what you like the super duperent math expert, and you could get kids excited about math?
01:24:06
Speaker 4: Really how absolutely absolutely? I am the master of middlers. So I get them excited about math. I get them excited about themselves. I teach them the importance of math. I show them how math plays a role in everything. Numbers are everywhere.
01:24:25
Speaker 14: That's just what I do.
01:24:27
Speaker 4: Magic and math.
01:24:28
Speaker 10: That's who I am.
01:24:31
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, but how because again I mean elis ca.
01:24:37
Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, let's talk about this. So basically, most students are missing quite a bit of learning from math. They miss a lot from year to year.
01:24:49
Speaker 16: So what I do.
01:24:50
Speaker 4: I have created Confident Calculators, which is a summer virtual math camp for students to help fill in those gaps. Because I believe that summer is the best time to learn. So we cover all of the basics that middle schoolers need in order to excel in math and to prepare them for algebra one.
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Speaker 2: All right, so we know COVID the last couple of years has really made things hard for kids in class, and so what top of acceleration needs to happen, because again we're seeing the net result of what happened when Brankley people were the kids were not going to school.
01:25:28
Speaker 1: We're not learning right, So.
01:25:30
Speaker 4: Really the key is to get back to the basics. So there are only four things you can do in math, ad subtract, multiply, and divide. We are strong in those areas. We're able to build a strong foundation that will allow us to catapult these kids into acceleration. What's happening is we kind of glossed over and kind of pushed under the rug the COVID situation. We put these kids back into the classroom and we just went on with the usual teaching and learning of math and reading and all the skills. But we have to get back to the basics, especially for our math students, because math is pivotal.
01:26:11
Speaker 10: So that whole.
01:26:12
Speaker 4: Pandemic those two years, two and a half years actually have set children back.
01:26:18
Speaker 1: So far.
01:26:19
Speaker 4: But we just and we can't just move ahead. We have to stop. We have to incorporate parents math at home numbers around us after school programs, and we have to fill in the gaps in the summer because children lose two and a half months of learning in the summer, so couple that with the COVID loss, they are farther and farther behind. So we've got to get back to the basics.
01:26:45
Speaker 1: All right, let's question from our panel.
01:26:48
Speaker 2: Let's see out of Michael, Matt and Kelly, who probably was the worst at math.
01:26:56
Speaker 9: Matt, well, you know, I didn't learn and chickens and horses and golds out in the country. Here's my question, Vita, my thirteen year old may indeed be in your program. So how does the program actually work in the summer, How involved is it in terms of daily meetings, and what does it look like kind of on the ground.
01:27:19
Speaker 4: Okay, Well, it is my belief that during the summer a child should spend at least one hour a day in math or covering their math skills. So I work with them an hour a day Monday through Thursday, and I give them the basic skills covering those eight subjects So the eight subjects are integers, exponents, solving equations, inequalities, building on the geometry skills, the substitution, the properties of math, those things that they need in order to build those skills each and every day, So with me by their side, in their face, virtual every day, I give them assessments. I give them a pre ass that's meant on each topic to find out where they are, and then I teach toward those missing gaps. And then I bring in my expertise as a math teacher for more than twenty years to fill in the gaps along the way for the
things I believe that they should know before they step into the next grade level or beyond. So it's a zoom call there. It's virtual. I communicate with them via email. I communicate with them via boxer that's a voice walk you talking, so they can ask me questions as they're doing the assignments that I give them. But I make it fun. So I incorporate music, dance, food, because everybody loves food and we can connect math to food. We will cover those things to make math connected, not just feeding them numbers. So a thirteen year old generally has an attention span of about fifteen to twenty minutes, so we'll transition between activities, they'll be able to work together, they'll have group work that have asynchronous and synchronous work, and so the basically virtual zoom conversations communication with parents as well. So we're incorporating the whole village in helping these children to bridge the gap between where they are and where they need to.
01:29:20
Speaker 1: Be, all right, Kelly, sure?
01:29:26
Speaker 7: So I see on your website that you actually teach children from k to twelve, if.
01:29:34
Speaker 18: I understand correctly, or even beyond grade twelve, even college students.
01:29:39
Speaker 7: My question to you is, while that is incredible.
01:29:43
Speaker 18: Which age group or which grade cluster do you think, based off of what happened with COVID, needs the most help in this area and can you give us a success story within that age range to basically you know, sell your product, all right?
01:30:00
Speaker 4: Well, building brighter kids from kindergarten to college is the parent arm Confident Calculators. The focus is on the middle school child. So I bridged the fifth grader into middle school, and I reached forward to bridge the eighth grader into high school. So my target audience for Confident Calculators Camp is the middle school child. So the focus is to make sure that they have the skills that they need before they go into the beyond, before they step into the algebra one class. So my best success story, actually, I just got a text message from one of my parents who has a child who has never scored higher than a D in math, and she just sent me a message saying that he received a B in math this quarter and that she said, in capital letters, unprecedented. So I've worked with that child since March February, and so we closed out the quarter with a B in math and he received an eighty eight on his final exam, which covered the whole year. So I must say that middle school children, that's my jam. So while I do building brider kidsrom kindergarten to college, my target audience is the middle school child. I love them, and most people don't.
01:31:19
Speaker 7: Understand.
01:31:20
Speaker 11: Michael all right, Vida, Hey, you know this is something fantastic. And my mother was a math teacher in elementary school for decades, so this, you know, really hits home with me. Oftentimes, you may have parents who want to help children with math, but those parents may not have been good in math when they were children, and maybe there may be apprehension about helping the child and letting the child know that they don't know how to.
01:31:48
Speaker 10: Do certain math problems or deal with geometry. So how do you when you have a child that's in your summer camp?
01:31:55
Speaker 11: Is there anything to help incorporate the parents to try to like reinform worse at home what the child is learning during the summer camp.
01:32:03
Speaker 4: Absolutely. Parents will receive an email at the end of the lesson or the session each week. I call it pieces of the Pie PI for three point one four. They get the uses of the pie strategies. I give them resources. I connect them with online and other resources that they can use that they can use at home. There are apps on the phone that they can use. There are activities that they can do at home. It's not just the ooh scary math. Numbers and math are everywhere. So I give them strategies to help them help their children succeed.
01:32:41
Speaker 10: All right, thank you?
01:32:44
Speaker 1: All right? Where can people get more information on the virtual camp?
01:32:48
Speaker 4: They can go to Building writer kids dot com. They can also don't forget I forgot this. Get your free copy of Raising a Confident Calculator. It's an ebook where I if you strategies, tools and tips on raising your own confident calculator. Everything is found at building burner kits dot com and you can follow me across all social media at bill bright Kiss.
01:33:13
Speaker 1: All right, well, appreciate it, Thanks a lot, a lot.
01:33:15
Speaker 4: Thank you have a great one. Appreciate it.
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01:35:02
Speaker 1: We continue education matters, folks.
01:35:05
Speaker 2: Dozens of Mississippi schools remain under desegregation orders from the Department of Justice. On Thursday, a US Assistant Attorney General Christian Clark spoke to a small group in Holmes County Circuit Court Complex in Lexington, Mississippi, about the Justice Department examining the state school districts to ensure black students have equal access to educational programs.
01:35:30
Speaker 1: Clark told a small group.
01:35:31
Speaker 2: In our ongoing efforts to fulfill the promise of Brown v. Board of Education, we currently have thirty two open cases with school districts here in Mississippi, and in each of those cases, we are working to ensure that these districts comply with desegregation orders from courts.
01:35:45
Speaker 1: Mississippi Folks has.
01:35:46
Speaker 2: The highest percentage of black residents of any state in the US and has been home to legal fights over desegregation. In twenty seventeen, Mississippi Delta School District agreed to merge two high schools after nearly fifty years of litigation in which the communities sought to maintain historically black and white schools. Clark also stoff at Jackson State University for her two day Southern Civil Rights tour. See this is one of those things, Michael, that people don't understand, that they think that all twenty twenty three were long past that, the fact that you still are dealing with holding people accountable for Jim Crow era segregation, and we're twenty twenty.
01:36:25
Speaker 10: Three absolutely roland.
01:36:28
Speaker 11: And this is what a lot of black conservatives don't want to address because the white conservatives won't let them do it, because then you have to admit that systemic racisms exists, and then the next step would be, okay, so what are you going to do about it? They're not going to do anything about it, so they pretend like it doesn't exist. And it's important for us to understand, really what brown versus Board of Education was about. It wasn't about white African American children being able to sit next to white children in the schools so they can learn better. The real fight was, we want to equal funding for our schools, just like white children, white students have for their schools. The goal was not to send our children and have them bust into hostile territories in the hostile schools and deal with teachers that didn't like them. We wanted equal funding. So here this fight still continues, and this is really understanding racism, but it deals with the goal. It deals with the purpose of the Department of Justice when it was created in eighteen seventy during reconstruction, and it was primarily created to enforce the new rights that African Americans were given.
01:37:38
Speaker 1: Matt.
01:37:39
Speaker 2: This also explains to people again why it's important who wins the White House, but that's who controls the Department of Justice.
01:37:47
Speaker 9: That's correct, And it also explains to people that you know, a lot of times we only get the tip of the iceberg in terms of litigation and this impact. But what's important about Brown that people may not know is that it was actually litigated in two parts es since and the Supreme Court gave the edicts to these states to desegregate with quote all deliberate speed, and what we're seeing is, like, more than sixty years later, that speed has not.
01:38:09
Speaker 1: Been deliberate or there at all.
01:38:11
Speaker 9: I mean, the fact that in twenty seventeen you've got a Mississippi school district that is still actively fighting desegregating following you know, a litany of cases and decisions from years ago ordering them to do so shows you that there's one still a problem into a problem that needs to be addressed head on. So that's good that Kristin Clark and the Department of Justice are taking that.
01:38:34
Speaker 1: On head on.
01:38:35
Speaker 9: And in fact, my understanding is this is a part of a deep South tour that she's doing. So hopefully her team will continue to identify, you know, those issues that are persisting and continue going at them with all deliberate speed, because clearly these independent school districts have not done so, and we still have an issue many many years later, well after the Supreme Court has laid down the law pretty clearly in this respect.
01:38:59
Speaker 2: Well, let's keep going to the east to Florida, where in Miami, a federal judge has sentenced the first person who was charging connection with the assassination of a Haitian president, Juvenile Moiz.
01:39:12
Speaker 1: In twenty twenty.
01:39:13
Speaker 2: One, Haitian Chilean businessman Wheredolph Jar got life in prison for his role in helping Columbia mercenaries of Colombian mercenaries carry out the assassination.
01:39:26
Speaker 1: Jars the first person.
01:39:27
Speaker 2: To be convicted and sentences in what the US prosecutors described as a broad plot by conspirators in Haiti and Florida to reap lucrative contracts under a new administration once Moiz was out of the way. Jar had previously been a US government informant. He was convicted of drug trafficking a decade ago. In March, he pled guilty to conspiracy to commit murder or kidnapping outside the United States and to providing.
01:39:53
Speaker 1: Material support resulting in death.
01:39:56
Speaker 2: Ten other defendants are awaiting trial in the United States. And this is this is again, this is one of those reasons, Kelly, why why Haiti continues to be destabilized, Because those situations like.
01:40:08
Speaker 18: This absolutely, and I'm sure Michael has the entire history and head regarding how Haiti got to be where it is, but it really is unfortunate when you have these external powers
that be come into Haiti and destabilize for you know, a litany of purposes. But the fact of the matter is, you know, things like this happened there because of external forces.
01:40:37
Speaker 7: So I'm glad that justice in this respect has been served.
01:40:41
Speaker 18: But Haiti as well as the world, has a long way to go as far as stabilizing this country.
01:40:50
Speaker 30: Well.
01:40:50
Speaker 1: And again justice should be served.
01:40:53
Speaker 2: So hopefully we will see more prison centesis for those involved the assassination. That is it for us, Kelly, Matt mic Cost still appreciate you joining us on today's show.
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