Full Transcript for Devin Haney Talks Canelo vs Crawford Superfight, Ryan Garcia Drama & Making the Shakur Fight Reality

but I got the bad rap for it, and but it's just it's part of it. What what what can you do? 00:04:58 Speaker 3: Yeah that, Paul, I don't understand. 00:04:59 Speaker 1: I don't understand how people talking about you when you since you was a teenager, wanted to fight the best and that's all you ever did. That's crazy to me. But I think that, oh I don't know how you feel. I think, and this is what a lot of people say, is that people don't like your father. Yeah, people don't like your father, and that spills over unto you. 00:05:19 Speaker 3: Do you think So. 00:05:20 Speaker 4: I hear that, I hear that. I don't know. I don't know. I can't. 00:05:24 Speaker 2: I can't really decipher it too if it's you know, I just know they don't like me. I can't really say, oh, well, they don't come up to me and say, oh, yeah, well I don't. I like, I don't like your father, but I like you like you know, I don't think they show the hate towards me. 00:05:36 Speaker 4: So it is what it is. 00:05:37 Speaker 2: We package deal disposed to my pops, made me, made me the man that I am today, So how could I be like, oh, well, y'all hate him, so now y'all hate me, But just a. 00:05:46 Speaker 4: Moment ago, y'all y'all, y'all loved me and him. So it's like, yeah, I mean, it reminds me of like Danny Girl seeing his pops. He says, no matter what, this is a package deal, right, showing pared his father. 00:05:56 Speaker 2: But they hate they hate most fathers. I mean that that's supported And you know they're in their career. They hate Ta Femo's dad. They schofield. 00:06:04 Speaker 4: It's kind of where the dad is present and then the picture and you gotta prothero with him. But has your father Bill ever says something that he was like, damn, I wish you would have said that. 00:06:13 Speaker 2: There had to be something that stands out. You might have called him like pops, like you're tripping. We had a genuine relationship, so we don't. We don't agree on everything, and that's okay. 00:06:23 Speaker 3: You know. 00:06:23 Speaker 2: I may say something he don't agree with. He may see something I don't agree with. We never show the world that. But we don't agree on everything. 00:06:29 Speaker 4: Yeah, but you're the fighter, right, so he's speaking for you in most cases. But there has to be something that you wish he could have taken back. 00:06:38 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, like I said, we don't agree on everything, you know, but sometimes sometimes like he say something, I'd be like, why would you say that? 00:06:44 Speaker 4: Like I don't and I don't. 00:06:46 Speaker 2: That's not that's not what I don't want to put I don't. I don't want that narrative out there right right and here, you know whatever. 00:06:51 Speaker 4: Most of the time when they say my bad yeah, huh, what do you ever say, like my bad dad, I want to. 00:06:55 Speaker 1: For of course, of course, are you really the boss like he says, but he's the dad. 00:07:02 Speaker 3: It's hard for the son to be the

boss. 00:07:05 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I mean he's a he's a he's a dad, he's a dad at home. But when it comes to the business, yeah, it's my business, it's our business. 00:07:13 Speaker 4: But you're the guy that went to Australia, you did what you did with Camp Boss. 00:07:19 Speaker 2: You know, you're the guy that beat Loner after the Ryan fight. 00:07:23 Speaker 4: Is there somebody that either you respected in the sport, you admired, or maybe you were friends with that turned it back on you? And like I'm talking about a specific person. 00:07:33 Speaker 2: A specific person that turned it back on me and. 00:07:36 Speaker 4: You were surprised and you don't f it anymore. 00:07:39 Speaker 2: At the top of my head, I know it was a lot of It was a lot of people, like a lot of people. At first. Yeah, it was friends, people, people in the boxing industry that you know, I thought they was like that was cool whatever. They showed that they really had hate for me. But I can't think of a specific person. But I can't say and like we're not friends or not nothing like that, but I did one person I didn't that. I thought it washed it on me and didn't shoot on me. I was surprised with your cor he didn't like, he didn't shoop on me. 00:08:10 Speaker 4: So I was like, and you would have expected that fromhim, Yeah, I would have. I would have of all people, I would have definitely expected him to shoot on me. I expected to take the ship on me. Like that's that's just you know. 00:08:22 Speaker 1: It was like, yeah, but that night in New York, congratulations on that victory. But that night in New York, was he yelling to help you or to give you advice or something like that from the outside, because I saw. 00:08:34 Speaker 4: Him yelling in New York in the Times Square Found Square Mirors. 00:08:40 Speaker 1: So you couldn't hear because everybody was like Ryan was like, I could hear everything. 00:08:44 Speaker 3: I could hear everything. Richardson was saying. I could hear everything. 00:08:47 Speaker 1: So you didn't hear Chaquur or anybody in particular, maybe even Richardson Hitchins Nah say. 00:08:52 Speaker 2: Something I didn't. 00:08:52 Speaker 4: I didn't hear. 00:08:53 Speaker 2: I didn't hear Richardson, but I saw him. So when I when I walked in the ring, I winked at him. I remember that Yeah. 00:09:00 Speaker 3: That wow to say what, I don't even know. 00:09:02 Speaker 2: I've seen him, Like I seen him. He was he was sitting right next to my corner, So i've seen him. I've seen Schrekour, I've seen a lot of people. But I couldn't hear I couldn't hear I see, like, I couldn't hear him. 00:09:13 Speaker 4: There was something going on on the inn, like a narrative of that image, that video image of you and your pops sending the rinks, that kind of laughing at Ryan's uh decision. Now, we don't know when that clip was taken. We don't know if it was before during the fight, but that's the way they painted it, like, oh Dad is laughing at Ryan losing. But then people in the comments saying, well, why is he so happy? It's not like his performance was great, Like did you did you see that narrative? 00:09:39 Speaker 2: I mean when I was like laughing at it because it was just like damn, like fuck, Rian, fucking up? Yeah, you're sucking up? Like our fight was already signed for it, we was getting crazy money for it, so it was like fuck, Like it was. 00:09:53 Speaker 4: So what about watching the fight, Like at what point did you start to getting nervous, like, man, the bag is slipping away. 00:09:58 Speaker 2: Well, I don't know what a round I came in, but I want to say, like I came like maybe halfway through the fight, so I didn't really know exactly. Yeah, I was, I was. I was in the I was in the dressing room getting getting dressed, changing clothes and stuff like that, so I didn't get a chance to seeing like the beginning part of the fight. But I knew that he got dropped, So I wasn't really keeping keeping up with the rounds like that. But everybody was telling me that he was that he was down, that he was down. I was hoping for something big. I was hoping for a knockout. 00:10:22 Speaker 4: Yeah. 00:10:23 Speaker 3: I was hoping to sell the fight. 00:10:25 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I want to sell the fight for us to fight, right, But I'm just saying that makes it for better, for a better fight for you with him. 00:10:33 Speaker 2: Our fight was already signed and money was already signed for yeah. 00:10:37 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, So did you go back and watch the fight? His fight? 00:10:41 Speaker 2: His fight? After all? So you didn't never even watch the full fight? 00:10:45 Speaker 3: No, I mean it was no point, no point, now, you know what I'm saying. 00:10:47 Speaker 4: But like I guess, like as a fight fan, like how did what happened with him getting knocked down? Why didn't he turn the fight around? Like, you know, are you a fight fan? Like do you like watching? Yeah, no, I watched. I watched fights, but I don't watch a lot of like new fights. I never like really watch like like new fights unless I'm fighting somebody and I watch, like, you know, their recent fights and stuff like that. But is there anybody that you like today, this current current fighters that watch. 00:11:11 Speaker 2: It's a lot. It's a lot of fighters I like. 00:11:13 Speaker 4: I like anyway. 00:11:14 Speaker 2: I like Ben Rodriguez, I like David Morrell. I think that's good. I think that's good. Bena videz man, it's it's I watched. I like to watch anybody though. I'll watch a shr court fight. I'll watch a tank fight. You know, like I'm not just like, oh yeah, I hate those guys. I would never watch I would never watch their fights. You know, Like that's how that's how you get better. You got you gotta keep up with your peers. You gotta watch everybody. So if if and if and if I'm like if I'm around my homies and friends, family, whatever, and they put on the tank fight I watch it. They put on a shr court fight. I watch it.

00:11:46 Speaker 4: I'm not like, it's not like, oh, don't play their fights in my house and shit like that. Well, being there, you brought up take, I mean as well ask you. I asked everybody here about the Roach fight and how you saw the fight. And obviously it's clear that the niche of knock down and know that fight is a little old. But I haven't spoken to you. Do you feel like most people felt that Roach won the fight? Yeah? 00:12:06 Speaker 2: I did feel like I did feel like Roach one I watched it live. 00:12:09 Speaker 4: I didn't. 00:12:09 Speaker 2: I haven't went back to watch that fight, just like really watch every round by round by round scored from from from just the eye tests of looking at it. I did think that that Roach won. 00:12:20 Speaker 1: Now you know, we were talking about you versus whole Grade and you destroyed him, you know, but then against Ramrige, you was more defensive. Yeah, you know, and your father was saying something like, I didn't want to get hit with no left hook. We're gonna show them that if we don't want to get hit, we don't get hit. Is that the Devin Haney that's going to be moving forward? Even though what I said to a lot of people. I said, he did his end of the bargain, he won, so he could have that mega fight. Yeah, of course No, But is that the Devin Hany we're gonna see moving forward, because you know, you get a lot of I. 00:12:49 Speaker 2: Mean, every fight is different. I've shown that every fighting. They see you, they see me step to a guy, they see me box, they see me do different a guy like woman, Chinko fart, totally different fight. I like, program a different fight. Yeah, so every every fighter is different, but you cannot fight everybody. Every fighter the same. So that was that was That was the game plan against Ramirez. Now Brian dormand the world will see what game plan I used for that fight. 00:13:17 Speaker 4: Do you feel after watching the Rameras fight do you feel like you could have done more offensively? Like was it because of the long laying off the last fight? Did you feel like you was a little too jittery early? No? 00:13:28 Speaker 2: I did what I wanted to do. 00:13:29 Speaker 1: What did you think about the commentators what they were saying about you? 00:13:32 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I didn't like that. I didn't like the commentary, but it is what it is. I never liked the commentary for my fights too. Yeah, I like p I like program. I like program. 00:13:46 Speaker 4: But but if you go watch it, if you go watch the Loana fight, they like, they was like, it wasn't good commentary to me. 00:13:52 Speaker 2: They was like, I lost some Yeah, yeah it was a loon, but I never be. I don't be. I'm not gonna say that. Yeah, we're here. 00:14:05 Speaker 3: One statement out of character. Ain't bad. No, no, correct, it's good, it's good. 00:14:13 Speaker 4: What what's the first thing that Turkey and this team said to you after. 00:14:16 Speaker 3: Ryan lost's next? 00:14:19 Speaker 4: What's

next? They were like, well, that. 00:14:21 Speaker 2: Ain't gonna it ain't gonna be him, but it's somebody else. They're like, they're like, well maybe we do to fem they just they they're they're always like, all right, what's next? 00:14:29 Speaker 4: Like they make adjustments. 00:14:31 Speaker 2: So and that's why when the world was talking about this Tom and Jerry ship, right that's like a big thing right now, Turkey has not never told me one thing about Tom and Jerry. 00:14:41 Speaker 4: Never said nothing about. 00:14:41 Speaker 3: It too much. He never said nothing. 00:14:44 Speaker 2: The same day that Turkey came out with this Tom and Jerry comment, I was talking to him that same day right before he said that, and we were talking about I think Brian Norman. 00:14:54 Speaker 1: I think the Brian Norman fight. That comment came from William's skull. But people, all the people are adding it to you had nothing to do with you with William's skull. Now, people do feel like you move too much against Rameraz. But when you talk about Tom and Jerry, obviously it's that William Skull fight where it's no offense. 00:15:12 Speaker 2: You watch that, Yeah, I watched it. 00:15:13 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:15:14 Speaker 4: So did they ever present the Ryan fight like it's still being a possibility for sure? 00:15:20 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like how what does that look like? 00:15:22 Speaker 3: Like? 00:15:22 Speaker 2: What does he have to go out and beat somebody else? 00:15:27 Speaker 4: Try to rebuild them like tune up fights and stuff like that, and then they want to do that. 00:15:31 Speaker 2: They still want to do that rematch. 00:15:32 Speaker 3: So what happened with to to your female fight? I mean, is it just he didn't like the money or no? 00:15:37 Speaker 2: So I signed my part of it. I agreed on everything and the money everything. They were like, Oh, he's gonna sign it tonight. He's eating They were like, Oh, he's eating dinner with his family in the praying, then he's gonna sign it. Whatever. So that was like nighttime. They're like, by the morning time we gonna have it and then in the morning time it was something different. It was like it just kept being different excuses and then then he's just they're like he said, he said, and he said, that's not the fight he wants. 00:16:01 Speaker 4: So what what he What people are saying was that he wanted the same money that he was asking for to fight Jeron Boots and to fight you. 00:16:09 Speaker 2: Is that the truth? 00:16:11 Speaker 4: Like supposedly they offered them a certain amount of money to fight you, and he said, no, I want the same thing you won't give me for Boots. No, he agreed on the money. 00:16:18 Speaker 3: He agreed on them. 00:16:19 Speaker 4: He agreed on the money. 00:16:20 Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's interesting. And you physically, I don't know what his number was. 00:16:26 Speaker 4: That's not my business. 00:16:27 Speaker 2: I don't even ask what they get. 00:16:29 Speaker 4: No, I don't care. 00:16:29 Speaker 2: I don't I don't care as long as my part, I don't care. I don't care that you. 00:16:35 Speaker 4: Always complained about that, like I fight, Like how fight is always worrying about what the other guy's got. 00:16:39 Speaker 3: If your person is what you wanted, to worry. 00:16:41 Speaker 4: About what you get, if your number is, if you genuine like your number, that's your number. It shouldn't matter. 00:16:46 Speaker 2: But what was that number? Because to be I'm known. 00:16:50 Speaker 3: To be the pocket watcher here right on this show. But what give me a ballpark? 00:16:54 Speaker 2: Figure? 00:16:54 Speaker 4: What was that number? Again? 00:16:57 Speaker 3: Was more than it was good? It was good? 00:16:59 Speaker 4: Good? 00:17:00 Speaker 2: Yeah, tell her, I'll take that. 00:17:03 Speaker 3: Yeah, that ain't bad. That's a nice ballpark, that's an arena. 00:17:07 Speaker 4: So did But but what good all my fights is more than ten millions? So okay, Oh so that ain't saying nothing said? Was it less than twenty? 00:17:18 Speaker 2: Alright? Look, let's move on. So what about Pops? Did he after the Romeros fight? Did he have any complaints? 00:17:26 Speaker 4: No? 00:17:27 Speaker 2: Nothing, He was like, did a good job? So though yeah, you know, yeah he was, Yeah he was. He was happy to I mean, because that's what we went in there to do. I executed the game plan. 00:17:36 Speaker 4: And first they say, oh, he get hit with hooks, he get hit with hooks. And then I go in there. 00:17:40 Speaker 2: I don't get hit with no hooks before but progress fight, they should I get here with left hands, like I'm progres gonna hit me with a million left hands. 00:17:46 Speaker 4: I get him with left hands. 00:17:47 Speaker 3: I go in there. 00:17:48 Speaker 2: I don't get here with no left hands. So it's like they're gonna say something regardless. 00:17:52 Speaker 4: Did Rameras have any power, like when he landed in shots. Honestly, no, no, no, honestly he did. I didn't feel any power. 00:18:00 Speaker 2: Not saying that he didn't. He didn't really land flush on me, but like on the arms and stuff like that, I didn't. 00:18:05 Speaker 4: I didn't feel anything. 00:18:06 Speaker 3: So did a little bit want to turn it up because of that? 00:18:09 Speaker 4: Yeah? For sure? For sure, for sure. 00:18:12 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, after the fight, I was I'm not gonna lie. I to upset with myself a little bitause I'm like, fuck, I wish I could have just because I knew that I knew that I could have did more. I knew that I knew that I could have did more, but I just wanted to execute the game plan. I didn't want to. I want to go in there and uh, you know, make it easy night. 00:18:29 Speaker 3: See. 00:18:30 Speaker 1: I know that that's your real game plan. I know somebody that you sparred with and they said that's how he trained. He wanted to fight that particular fight. He could do other things, but that's but the commentator is

obviously don't know that, so they're thinking, oh, Okay, he's still shell. 00:18:44 Speaker 3: Shot or whatever. You know, So. 00:18:47 Speaker 4: Does that motivate you now? But if I'm so said, I gotta fight different than that. If I'm so shell shot, then why don't find a guy like Brian Norman? Why would I fight him? That? 00:18:58 Speaker 2: I was just about to bring up he got some pop, he's. 00:19:01 Speaker 4: A he's the biggest puncher at one forty seven? Right, yes, right, So why would I go Why would I go fight him? That's the thing. 00:19:07 Speaker 3: People don't know you. They don't know you always the guy that's going after the best fighters. 00:19:11 Speaker 4: Does that motivate you? That that you that you don't get the credit for all you've done or the negative press? Is that kind of motivated? They give the credit to who did they? Who really gets all the credit? 00:19:24 Speaker 3: That's a fact. 00:19:25 Speaker 1: No matter how guy like got all the credit in the world. I don't think you got all the credit. Well, okay, you're naming white fight guys. 00:19:35 Speaker 2: You know, guy like they, guy like anyway gets the credit. 00:19:39 Speaker 1: They still they still get they talk to you know, he's he's ducking tank. 00:19:44 Speaker 2: Now. 00:19:44 Speaker 4: Meanwhile, I don't want to make but I'm just saying race pointing out the obvious. Certain fighters get more in love than others. Even in the commentary. I'm not throwing them shots at anybody, but but you hear it, you hear the noise. 00:19:58 Speaker 3: What do you think of Brian Norman as a fighter? 00:20:00 Speaker 4: Like? 00:20:00 Speaker 3: Rate him from one to ten at least? It's hard. 00:20:03 Speaker 2: It's hard for me to really rate him because I don't know any of the guys he beat. Right there, you go like, truthfully, I don't know. I don't know them. They got the guy you fought last, I never heard of them. I didn't I didn't know. I'm I know everybody. I'm a fighter, I know everybody, and I'm actually watched boxes. But the last guy I did, I genuinely did not know who he was. 00:20:23 Speaker 1: So you're saying in the eye test, what does the eye test tell you that he's good? Or it's just maybe it's his opponents. 00:20:28 Speaker 2: I think that you put chief people in with those guys, chief people will do the same thing. You put anybody in there with those same guys, You're gonna do the same thing. I never heard of any of these guys, right right. 00:20:41 Speaker 4: So I've been doing this. 00:20:42 Speaker 2: I've been doing this at the highest level for for how long? I I just don't know the guys that he's beat. When did that fight start materializing? Like when it was it? Like as soon as you saw him, like, yeah, yeah, I want to fight him. Yeah no, I mean I want to fight the best fighters in the world. So it's like, all right, tif to t If you won't fight, don't want to, who's. 00:21:02 Speaker 4: The next guy? 00:21:02 Speaker 2: Would you have four Boots in

that present? 00:21:05 Speaker 3: Yeah? 00:21:05 Speaker 4: No. 00:21:05 Speaker 2: They asked us, They said, would you are you guys open to doing a Boots fight? I said one hundred percent at one forty seven. Boots's team came back with they wanted to do it at one fifty two. One fifty two. 00:21:16 Speaker 4: I've never even fight at one forty seven. Yeah, I said, no, if he come down at one forty seven, we can do the fight. 00:21:21 Speaker 2: Okay, So you were willing to fight on Boots for that? Yeah, you gonna you could? You could ask Mike Coppenter, ask Turkey a La Chic, you can ask ish you guys, any of them. I said, yeah, let's do it one forty seven. 00:21:33 Speaker 3: We can. 00:21:33 Speaker 4: We can make we can make the fight happen. But I'm not gonna I can't. I'm not gonna go to one fifty two. Fucking boosts. At the end of the day, you know, Butts is a good fighter, But who is he? 00:21:41 Speaker 2: You know he's Yeah, he's not He's not a Canalo. So you're not going up to take that rest for that fight. 00:21:47 Speaker 4: Yes, so at one forty seven, I mean, if you go out and bring Brian Norman, what's what's the big fight at one forty seven and you're no, I gotta start with this one. I gotta get past this one first. He my main focus right now. He is the best guy at one forty seven. 00:22:01 Speaker 1: Right now, is your players to stay at one forty seven and try to be undisputed? 00:22:04 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, for sure. I don't really know what the landscape looks like right now. What was it like because Boots vacated two belts so I don't know really really how Or you just want big names? Yeah yeah, yeah, big names, big money. 00:22:20 Speaker 3: Does it matter to you now? 00:22:21 Speaker 4: Like at one point the belts and being undisputed meant something. It means something the old fighters, right, But it seems like now you're at the level of your career where you're thinking about, I'm here to make the most money possible. 00:22:33 Speaker 2: I told my dad this. I was like, damn, I fucking forgot that it was even for a title because I look at I'm looking at the person the name. I'm looking at that, right, So I forgot it was even for a belt. 00:22:43 Speaker 3: So the purse, yeah yeah, not the person, the person the purse. 00:22:51 Speaker 2: So it was like, yeah, so my main thing is that is the person the name, looking at that specific person. But the bell time. It would be a dream come true if I became understand at one forty seven. But like I said, I don't know exactly how the bells is gonna play out. I was where you know, it might be a lot, might be. 00:23:10 Speaker 4: You know, we're talking about persons, and you've always been a flashy guy. Right, Look, you gotta protect on uh, you spend money on cars. You're getting older now, right, and obviously boxing doesn't last forever. Yeah, for sure. 00:23:24 Speaker 2: What do you think is the smartest thing you've done with your earnings save that? My dad call? My dad taught me cash is king. As long as you got cash, you got right. But have you made investments like me? My possibly did some real estate, real estate plays, stuff like that. But man, cash is king. When you go look in the bank, you got X. 00:23:43 Speaker 4: Y and Z. 00:23:44 Speaker 3: You know it's there. 00:23:45 Speaker 2: You lose, you can't lose. You ain't making no wrong decisions. 00:23:49 Speaker 4: But I'm pretty sure that you you got tons of people in your aird told about you got to make your money. 00:23:53 Speaker 2: Work for you. 00:23:54 Speaker 3: That's what we've done. 00:23:55 Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's what I want to make. 00:23:56 Speaker 4: I want. I want to make smart moves. I want to, you know, make sure that is right and right now is still making a ton of money. 00:24:03 Speaker 2: I want to keep you going, still keep spending something. I want to let it just keep piling up. I want to just you know, obviously I want I want to invest in everything, and I want to do the right thing with it. And I want to I really want to do the right thing with it, with it, so you don't want to spend it and tell us the right thing. So right now, I'm just gonna let it keep piling up. Looking at it, looking at how often. 00:24:23 Speaker 3: Do you shut up? How often do you go a live every day? 00:24:26 Speaker 4: Every day? 00:24:27 Speaker 3: Makes so it's still. 00:24:27 Speaker 2: There every day. 00:24:28 Speaker 4: But do you have anybody around you that has like a debit card access to that money or you're the only one that is access to your money because you have a look at it like. 00:24:37 Speaker 3: That, it's not a bigger balance in there. What's spending this, who's spending this? 00:24:42 Speaker 2: So all right, So let's just. 00:24:44 Speaker 4: Say I got I got people looking at my money right now. 00:24:47 Speaker 2: That's you know, with binoculars, trying to trying to get some trying to get some old money in something. 00:24:52 Speaker 4: So monoculars though, so they fall away getting close to what's the dumbest thing you ever spend money on that you regret? 00:24:58 Speaker 2: There has to be something card cars? Yeah, the drop value, like yeah, I always say like, I'm not buying no more cars that and then I get another one. What's the lad was the last car? 00:25:10 Speaker 4: My last My last car was my four by four My brother is four by four g Wagon. 00:25:14 Speaker 2: But it's just too much money. I'm tired of spending money on cars, and I own all my cars. 00:25:19 Speaker 4: I don't, so why not least though after three years, get rid of and not spend all that bread. Yeah, I don't know. 00:25:24 Speaker 2: Is that gonna be a new thing? Maybe you gonna lease? 00:25:26 Speaker 4: Yeah? 00:25:27 Speaker 2: Maybe maybe I don't got I don't got like, I don't got no credit. I don't got like, I don't got bad credit. 00:25:32 Speaker 4: I don't. 00:25:32 Speaker 2: I don't got credit like, so's just like just give me the car. 00:25:36 Speaker

4: But I don't. 00:25:37 Speaker 2: It's not smart. 00:25:38 Speaker 4: I don't. I don't. 00:25:38 Speaker 2: I don't I don't want to keep doing that. 00:25:40 Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely got to drive one card to tell how many cars do you have? 00:25:44 Speaker 4: Too many? Too many? And too many? 00:25:46 Speaker 3: Do you even know? 00:25:47 Speaker 4: Too many? Do you try to sell some of them because you know I'm so some, I'm so some like some like like my car got he's my friend too, so he tells me like, oh, this car is gonna drop in value, so you should get rid of it, dump it before or dumping for to get over this many miles stuff like that. Has any of your boys come up to You're like, yo, Dad, you don't even drive this car on one man? 00:26:05 Speaker 2: Like, you know, can I get the keys? No, you ain't got friends that car. 00:26:11 Speaker 4: Let's talk about the biggest fight of the year in my opinion, coming up in September, right, Canelo Bud. Yeah. People are just talking about the size, right, That's why it's going to be too tough. When you look at those two guys in stature, right, they don't look that difference in size, and Canelo is a small guy for one sixty eight. Yeah, but as long as arms, how does that matchup look to you? 00:26:32 Speaker 2: I think it's a good matchup. It's a fight that we all been wanting to see. Bud has the skills, he got the discipline iq to win, but Canelo has all that with the size. So I think it's a good fighter. I'm happy that Bud got to fight. My dad was the one that told him that he should take the fight. I mean, yeah, yeah, but I don't know if you'll see yeah, obviously now what came out and said that my dad was the one that that told him to fight Canelo a long time ago. Really, so yeah, he's in a private conversation just what he told me, man, the fight for you is Canelo. And and Budd looked at my dad like like, you're like, man, but that was here, Yeah, no, it's here now. So I think it's I think it's a good fight for boxing because Dad picking Bud of course, of course, yeah, and I'm picking Bud too. But will it be easy times? No, But if anybody could do it, I think budget You think he should hang it up after that? What else? 00:27:30 Speaker 3: What else? 00:27:30 Speaker 2: What else is there to do? 00:27:31 Speaker 3: Right? 00:27:31 Speaker 4: Yeah? 00:27:32 Speaker 2: And it's a big money fight if he wins, if he wins or loses, what else is it to do? He's been understrated twice twas two weight classes. What he defended it? 00:27:43 Speaker 4: What like? 00:27:44 Speaker 2: What what work can he does he need to do? 00:27:47 Speaker 3: Do you think that about yourself as well? 00:27:49 Speaker 1: Because you said I don't know the landscape at one forty seven and Brian Norman is the biggest name. 00:27:54 Speaker 3: T O might move up there. But if he don't, what else is there for you? 00:28:00 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm young, and they make new guys every day, make them every day? No, they do, they make new I mean Brian Norman right two years ago? Did we we have been talking about Brian Norman right now? 00:28:13 Speaker 3: No, that's true. 00:28:14 Speaker 2: He's a new guy's he came out of nowhere. Honestly, I haven't even knew Brian nor for that long. I didn't even I didn't know. 00:28:19 Speaker 4: I didn't know. 00:28:20 Speaker 2: I didn't know about him. But he's younger than me. So this is a guy that he's a new guy. This is the first guy wild I thought that was young, that was younger than me, because you always the younger. 00:28:29 Speaker 4: Probably like ever, I know fighters never answered this question like straight, But do you have a quota like on? All right, I want to make this much amount of money before I hang them up or I want to be this age. 00:28:43 Speaker 2: I don't want to fight past this age? What what's your quoter? 00:28:46 Speaker 4: Not money? 00:28:46 Speaker 2: Because I'm not chasing money, right, you know, you know, a love bless me? Money, money come to me? I like, I don't even like I just be chilling plays and everything come to me like money. I got a lot of problems. 00:29:00 Speaker 4: Money not one of them. 00:29:00 Speaker 2: So I'm not money. 00:29:01 Speaker 3: Show up today. Now that he's had money, you can't you can't force it. 00:29:06 Speaker 4: It just comes. 00:29:07 Speaker 3: He's got to sit back, Okay, welcome. 00:29:13 Speaker 2: Of age. Nah, I mean I got a long way to go. I don't I don't even want to talk about that. I know, but everybody says that, right, but don't say that. 00:29:22 Speaker 3: I know some guys don't. 00:29:23 Speaker 4: Most guys let boxing retire him? Yeah right, And but so G is only one of the few. Right But j Ward that left on his terms, that hasn't come back. 00:29:33 Speaker 2: And let boxing returning because they chasing money. They they they're they're they have a money PROBM so they following the money. You know what I'm saying. But luckily I'm good, So I'm not doing that, you know. So, but I love the sport. When I'm not boxing, I'm I don't know what I'm doing. What are you doing. I don't know, I don't ain't nothing, it. 00:29:51 Speaker 4: Ain't nothing to do with so you. 00:29:52 Speaker 1: But you have Devin Hanny Promotions, Yeah, you think you'll be involved as a promoter or No, I don't know. 00:30:00 Speaker 2: I don't really want to be honestly, Honestly, I don't really want to be a promoter, Like I don't I don't know. 00:30:06 Speaker 4: I don't know when it's when it's when it's all said, And. 00:30:08 Speaker 2: I don't think I want to be a promoter. I want to promote myself. 00:30:13 Speaker 4: But it's just like I wasted so much money on promoter fighters helping fighters, and just like. 00:30:22 Speaker 2: It just being like a money pit for me. Like it's just it's so long to you see money. I mean you see money from fighters, and it's just I made a lot of Like that's probably the worst investment I made was spending money on fighters. So you have

spent money on fighters, Yeah, No, I've built a lot of fighters and I just got the shorten of the stick. So where it's just like I'm not really interested in really doing it. 00:30:46 Speaker 4: Because Eddie Hunter said that one time where he's like, you know a lot of these fighters call themselves promoters, but they're not putting up no money, but like they're not. They just got their name on the banner. So you actually spent money as a promoter. I spent a lot of money, spent a lot of money. I built a lot of fighters, helped a lot of fighters, and which is one of the biggest disappointments in that regard. 00:31:07 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I mean because I always help fighters that I actually, like, you don't care about. 00:31:13 Speaker 4: I'm not. I don't know. 00:31:15 Speaker 2: So it's like I don't just like go scout fighters whatever. It be like somebody that I know and I want to help them out, like, you know, I see they having a tough time, I want to help them out stuff like that. So and then I never I never reached the Yeah, yeah, I never get no benefits. 00:31:30 Speaker 4: From so any of them, did you dirty? Like go somewhere else. 00:31:33 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna say that. I'm not gonna say that. I mean, it has happened, Yeah, it has happened. But everything happens for a reason. I mean, I'm blessed that where I'm able to still be keep fighting and still keep doing this at the highest level, and you know, receiving the benefits from what I'm actually doing myself. But it's just it's just a money pit for me. Man. 00:31:56 Speaker 1: You know one time was I was in Arizona and I was back stage and I think it was Truck that was about to fight something happened with his opponent and you were there, and you was like, get them on the phone. 00:32:07 Speaker 3: I'll pay for it right now. Yeah, I'll give them the money right now. You experienced that a lot in this game. 00:32:13 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, for sure. But that's just my character too, because I like to I like to help people. So yeah, I mean I've helped a lot of fighters. Even I still help fighters. Regret helping anybody like like somebody, because if I helped them, they needed me, So I helped them. 00:32:32 Speaker 3: That's good. You think you spent over a million dollars on other fighters? 00:32:35 Speaker 2: Not a million dollars, but I definitely spent a lot of my would I couldn't gage it. I couldn't gage I didn't, man, I didn't fighters. 00:32:45 Speaker 3: I think Floyd's Floyd. 00:32:47 Speaker 4: I think he kind of fucked me up with this because I didn't seen him by fighters watches and stuff cards that I didn't. I didn't all. 00:32:52 Speaker 2: I didn't did all that for fighters, And uh, you want and done them. Yeah, where I just didn't do it the right way. I always like did it on some like love and like you know, more like handshake. 00:33:04 Speaker 4: Deal rather than rather than just because because I had genuine, genuine love for these guys and it just didn't work out for me. 00:33:11 Speaker 3: So it's just like, so what about the young fighters you still have? Like you, No, for sure some really good fighters. That's really good. 00:33:19 Speaker 4: Okay. 00:33:19 Speaker 2: So when I say I wouldn't no more new fighters, I mean obviously guys that I'm already in bad weight. I'm not gonna just turn my back on I'm not gonna turn my back on it, but no more new fighters. You got it? 00:33:29 Speaker 4: So you say you don't know what to do like outside the box, and it's been your life right since a little little kid. Do you ever struggle with that? Like, man, when I when I'm done with this sport, like what am I gonna do with my time? 00:33:41 Speaker 1: No? 00:33:42 Speaker 2: I mean I don't strug. 00:33:43 Speaker 4: I don't think about that because I'm not like, I'm not gonna be done no time soon, and I don't want to put that in my head or think about, oh what I'm done. 00:33:50 Speaker 2: I feel like I can get fucked up right, boxing, your boxing career is gonna be shorter than your whole life. 00:33:57 Speaker 4: Yeah for sure. 00:33:58 Speaker 2: Right, so there has to be some sort of planning. All what what what do you like to do right now? Listen, growing up, I never had no plan. B. This is planning. 00:34:06 Speaker 3: This is executed. 00:34:08 Speaker 2: You have the highest stuff right now, saying I'm still with that mindset like this is working and this is what my this is my mindset. This is my mindset. Like so so all right, fun, I respect that. What what do you think you would be doing if this wasn't it? 00:34:23 Speaker 4: Like? 00:34:23 Speaker 2: Like what do you like? 00:34:24 Speaker 3: What are you into? 00:34:24 Speaker 1: What? 00:34:25 Speaker 2: What? 00:34:25 Speaker 4: What? Type of don't say on my own business? Everybody says that all the fighters like what what what? 00:34:29 Speaker 2: What do you actually like to do outside of make money? 00:34:33 Speaker 4: Make money? 00:34:34 Speaker 2: I love making money, we all do. I mean, there's some real estate with my dad. Would you word you ever train fighters? You like teaching the sport? Nah? No, I wouldn't want to. I wouldn't want to train fighters, but I wish he's doing the past with my brother, like just working with him and stuff like that. It was fun because I just love boxing, But I wouldn't want to do like training. 00:34:56 Speaker 4: Yeah, but like, because you're such a like technically sound high Q boxer. 00:35:01 Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure when you watch people, you're like, damn he doing this for him? I know he could do this right. You don't have ever urge to like want to share that knowledge. Yeah, no, for sure, but not just on some like just be like not to do it. 00:35:13 Speaker 4: Yeah. 00:35:13 Speaker 2: Yeah, I should just be obligated to do it. You know. 00:35:17 Speaker 1: We was talking to Roy Jones and and he was like, I need to open up like an auto mechanic shop because I see the things that guys are. 00:35:26

Speaker 3: Doing wrong and what they could do. Would you ever take him on to add to your camp as a trainer? 00:35:33 Speaker 2: He did say, you're one of the best fighters in the world today. 00:35:35 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:35:35 Speaker 4: I was working with Roy probably like two or three weeks ago. 00:35:39 Speaker 2: We was training. Yeah, really was training in Miami. Yeah, Miami. He came to see me in Miami and we was training. 00:35:47 Speaker 4: Yeah. I was that it was good. 00:35:49 Speaker 2: No, Roy used to train me when I was young, so I forget that. You train train with everybody. So yeah, Roy, he's he knows so much. And you'd be thinking that, like you think you know everything, and if Roy come in and you'll be like fuck, I've been doing everything wrong. 00:36:05 Speaker 3: This whole time. 00:36:06 Speaker 2: So no, I love Roy. 00:36:09 Speaker 4: Have you ever thought about one out of all of those trainers that you worked with, bringing him back into your sur coourse? 00:36:15 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm thinking about it. I'm thinking about it now. 00:36:17 Speaker 4: Well. 00:36:18 Speaker 2: Who it's just one guy, right, all right, give us his name, give us one day something. 00:36:27 Speaker 3: This is one guy. 00:36:27 Speaker 4: It's this one guy. 00:36:28 Speaker 2: I never trained with him though before. 00:36:29 Speaker 4: Okay, but we've been talking. 00:36:32 Speaker 2: Is he a known trainer? 00:36:33 Speaker 3: No, he's not. 00:36:34 Speaker 2: He's not a trainer. He's not a trainer. He's a fighter. Ah, he's a fighter. 00:36:37 Speaker 4: He's a fighter. 00:36:38 Speaker 2: But he's a known fighter. 00:36:39 Speaker 4: No, he's very known. He's very known. 00:36:42 Speaker 2: I mean you're not saying. 00:36:43 Speaker 4: That's not because I don't know. 00:36:44 Speaker 3: I don't know. 00:36:45 Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, no, no. 00:36:46 Speaker 2: I worked with Sugar Shane. No. 00:36:47 Speaker 4: But I feel like he's more of a trainer. This guy. We never seen him work with nobody. We seen him give pointers two people, but doesn't get tired or not. 00:36:55 Speaker 3: That's it. That's all I'm ask Is he retired. He's retired. 00:36:58 Speaker 2: Ward, he's ward. 00:37:02 Speaker 4: If somebody that's not a trader but you. But it's so smart in the ring who else? But Ward we're talking. We're talking, We're talking, we're talking. 00:37:12 Speaker 2: So I don't know. 00:37:13 Speaker 4: I don't want to say. 00:37:13 Speaker 2: I don't want to say if dra gonna train me or not. We just we we've been we've been talking, we've been talking about it. 00:37:20 Speaker 4: I don't know. 00:37:20 Speaker 2: We gotta get a gym and see if it, you know, if it works, if it works. I worked, I work with birds for a while when I was a kid. So does he remind you of I don't know. 00:37:31 Speaker 4: We haven't. 00:37:31 Speaker 2: We haven't really got in the gym yet to really see. That would be crazy, It would be it would be crazy. 00:37:38

Speaker 4: And I honestly, it came through a guy, somebody we know, mutual, Kevin Newman, and yeah, so they they like they talked about it, and I. 00:37:48 Speaker 2: Was like, you sure, Like you sure you're sure he would want to like work with me? 00:37:52 Speaker 4: He like, yeah, he said he would be open to it, like he wanted, you know, if I was interested. I was like, man, are you sure? Like, are you sure that? 00:37:59 Speaker 2: Like I never see them train nobody, but I never see So that's interesting. 00:38:03 Speaker 4: I think that dynamic in itself would be big news, right, and people would be so excited to see you back in the ring, just just for that, you know, because that would be crazy, that would all right before we get out of here, obviously you moving up and wait of course still at one thirty five, you can't you know, say your name without saying shakur to your female tank. Right, it's just is what it is. Is that fight going to ever happen whatever happened against you? 00:38:31 Speaker 2: And yeah, I think so. I think you can think will grow into whatever you mean. We all, we're all all of us is close to the same size, you know, we all we're all growing together. We're all like you know, getting bigger. Well so, and it's only so many guys, like y'all said, it's only so many guys that where we could make big money and people want to see the fights, which even though I know that they making new guys is guys like fucking Kermel Abdullah, all these guys wanna come up to so even they gonna be they're gonna be there too. But yeah, no, I think that a fight with Record is very much possible. Try we try to make it happen a while back, but you never know. I think that I think that it could still happen. 00:39:13 Speaker 4: What's one thing about Turkey Alaska is excellency that people be surprised about. I don't know. He good to me. 00:39:18 Speaker 2: All I can say is that he's grateful boxing. I think that I think that he's that he's grateful great for boxing, he's paying the fighter, she's making the best fights happen. 00:39:27 Speaker 4: I don't like. 00:39:27 Speaker 2: I think people like kind of like getting it. Like when he trolls, people don't really know that he's trolling. 00:39:32 Speaker 4: Like I've seen that the ring was really gonna get smaller. 00:39:36 Speaker 2: So yeah, they don't they don't they. I don't think they really understand it. But I think that he's he's grateful boxing. 00:39:44 Speaker 3: Now. 00:39:45 Speaker 2: I don't know about white. Yeah, that's why I don't know about that part. I don't know what it looks like. But you know, as long as the pay is right. 00:39:56 Speaker 4: What's the one thing before we get out of here that people have wrong about you? The general public, people that don't know you personally, that you've read on the internet. 00:40:03 Speaker 2: I don't know, because I really don't know what they really think about me. 00:40:07 Speaker 4: I really don't know. 00:40:08 Speaker 2: You

spend time on social media, I don't I don't know. 00:40:11 Speaker 4: I don't like reading the comments and looking for like, oh, if they liked me. 00:40:15 Speaker 2: If they don't, never did, because that I mean at a point, yeah, at a point a long time ago, well not that long ago, probably like three years ago. But I'm not listen. I'm not about to have my day fucked up. 00:40:31 Speaker 4: That Maden Maden, my girl mad just walking around. 00:40:40 Speaker 3: See this motherfucker? 00:40:41 Speaker 2: I responded to dudes. 00:40:43 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean yeah sometimes sometimes if I see it, I like dm somebody back, go say something, say something crazy back to them. 00:40:52 Speaker 2: But for the most part, I be trying. 00:40:53 Speaker 1: To have a roll up on somebody and then they switched their whole demeanor like oh it was tough all line. 00:40:58 Speaker 2: No, because I'm not will be one of those problems with nobody. 00:41:01 Speaker 4: But we're bringing a pull up back, so you might have to be on one of the episodes. Sure you ever watched the pull Yeah, we're gonna get that popping again. Your pops moved to New York. Have you ever thought about making that switch to New York? Nah? 00:41:14 Speaker 2: I like New York, but it's just tax is too high, That's what it is. So it's not that you like that that vegas heat, it's just no, I don't I don't live in Vegas. You don't you know? 00:41:23 Speaker 4: I live in I live in Miami. 00:41:25 Speaker 2: Oh, Miami, I live in Miami. Yeah. Oh so you're done in Vegas. Yeah, well I didn't know know that. 00:41:32 Speaker 1: I commend you all fighting a champion, going up to one forty seven and just fighting champion like this. 00:41:37 Speaker 4: This is what this is. 00:41:38 Speaker 2: This is my character. 00:41:39 Speaker 4: This is what I know that. 00:41:40 Speaker 2: You know, I don't know people for like they give me, they give me my credit and then they forget, then they give my credit. Well, with this one, you've showing anybody that you're willing to fight anybody. So let's se question that will they give me my credit after after I beat him? 00:41:52 Speaker 3: Nobody they're gonna say that he's fighting. You don't get the full credit. You don't get credit for. 00:41:57 Speaker 4: Some dot know what like can that'll be saying another That is when it's all said and done before he says, that's when they're gonna give you credit when it's all over. 00:42:04 Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, hopefully, hopefully, hopefully they give it to me. 00:42:09 Speaker 4: That's one there. 00:42:12 Speaker 3: I told you. I'm gonna have told set. 00:42:15 Speaker 2: Bill was here too. 00:42:17 Speaker 3: Yeah, bless you too, thank you, I saw your brother. Yeah, told you Are you in New York for real? 00:42:27 Speaker 4: It's the best, biggest, best city in the world that you still gotta pay a lot for taxes. 00:42:31 Speaker 2: He knows better. 00:42:32 Speaker 3: He makes it money. That's why I pay six figures. 00:42:34 Speaker 4: Not here, but I'm here represented only make a little bit for the cameras. 00:42:38 Speaker 1: I don't know. 00:42:38 Speaker 3: You live in good though, you live in Manhattan, You live in good credible. 00:42:43 Speaker 2: I came from things, that's right. 00:42:44 Speaker 4: God bless me so much. 00:42:46 Speaker 2: God bless and thank you for my son. 00:42:48 Speaker 3: Of course, Man, you love me, Man, I love it. I love love you man for real.