Full Transcript for Girl, Interrupted (25th anniversary)

00:03:42.360 --> 00:03:43.759 Oh no, I didn't. Don't think so. No. 74 00:03:43.879 --> 00:03:46.919 I think it's like ten years oldish. It's the same thing. 75 00:03:47.479 --> 00:03:49.840 A girl, maybe a couple. I think it's just her. 76 00:03:49.960 --> 00:03:52.120 I think she's alone, if I remember correctly. But it's 77 00:03:52.319 --> 00:03:55.039 the campus is shut down for Thanksgiving break, so it's 78 00:03:55.080 --> 00:03:58.680 not Christmas, that's Thanksgiving. But oh my god, Rudy, add 79 00:03:58.680 --> 00:03:59.879 that to your list. I think I found it on 80 00:03:59.919 --> 00:04:05.360 YouTube a few years ago. It is so scary, so intense, Christy. 81 00:04:05.639 --> 00:04:06.319 Check it out, all right? 82 00:04:06.400 --> 00:04:08.840 Yeah? Thanks? Many more Thanksgiving movies too, at least horror one. 83 00:04:08.960 --> 00:04:11.759 So yeah, right, yeah, we need more Thanksgiving horror for sure, 84 00:04:11.840 --> 00:04:13.360 or at least I need to discover it more. I 85 00:04:13.400 --> 00:04:17.240 know again they're out there, it's just so few. Yeah, yeah, totally, 86 00:04:17.399 --> 00:04:19.040 But anyway, we are not talking about, well, we are 87 00:04:19.160 --> 00:04:20.879 kind of talking about I mean, this movie kind of 88 00:04:20.959 --> 00:04:23.560 takes a turn. As you know, we just rewatched it. 89 00:04:23.920 --> 00:04:25.959 This movie takes a turn towards the end, and it 90 00:04:26.040 --> 00:04:29.160 kind of does become a horror movie in these tunnels, 91 00:04:29.560 --> 00:04:32.879 the under the institution that they're in. So I guess 92 00:04:32.879 --> 00:04:34.959 it all kind of makes sense. But before we nerd 93 00:04:34.959 --> 00:04:37.680 out about girl interrupted, Rudy tell us about you. I 94 00:04:37.720 --> 00:04:42.199 know you write movie reviews for local news, right newspapers 95 00:04:42.240 --> 00:04:42.759 and things. 96 00:04:43.480 --> 00:04:46.160 Yeah, so started at the end of the past summer, 97 00:04:46.360 --> 00:04:48.959 I started writing movie reviews for the Lamott Weekly. 98 00:04:49.040 --> 00:04:50.920 It's a local paper here in Portland, Oregon. 99 00:04:51.360 --> 00:04:53.600 I have a friend who's like an editor or assistant editor, 100 00:04:53.720 --> 00:04:55.399 and he asked me if I would be interested in 101 00:04:55.439 --> 00:04:58.399 trying our doing some submissions and seeing if his editor 102 00:04:58.879 --> 00:05:01.000 wanted to bring me on. So every now and then 103 00:05:01.000 --> 00:05:02.959 I'll pitch some movies that I want to see. It's 104 00:05:03.040 --> 00:05:04.279 usually poor ones I want to. 105 00:05:04.279 --> 00:05:06.759 Do, but nice. But it's been a lot of fun. 106 00:05:06.920 --> 00:05:08.600 And I've done non horror as well. 107 00:05:08.639 --> 00:05:12.199 And I've also covered a recent we had documentary here 108 00:05:12.600 --> 00:05:16.040 last fall. It was a queer documentary that focuses on 109 00:05:16.079 --> 00:05:19.519 like local stories our local We focus on some of 110 00:05:19.519 --> 00:05:22.639 the local ones, but they are worldwide docks and stuff, 111 00:05:22.720 --> 00:05:24.560 so I covered that and that was that was a 112 00:05:24.680 --> 00:05:26.000 bigger piece and that was a lot of fun. 113 00:05:26.519 --> 00:05:28.720 Nice Rudy, I love that. So do you do you 114 00:05:28.839 --> 00:05:30.600 Is that like your normal like day job. Do you 115 00:05:30.639 --> 00:05:32.360 do a lot of writing for work or is this 116 00:05:32.399 --> 00:05:33.399 sort of like a side. 117 00:05:33.160 --> 00:05:35.600 Oh, this is just fun. I used to write, like 118 00:05:35.720 --> 00:05:39.399 for school and stuff, but my day job is very boring. 119 00:05:39.439 --> 00:05:42.279 It's just like I'm a fraud investigator for financial firms, 120 00:05:42.279 --> 00:05:43.160 so it's flowed. 121 00:05:43.639 --> 00:05:46.480 Ooh, that's spicy, and I don't think that's boring. Is 122 00:05:46.480 --> 00:05:46.920 it boring? 123 00:05:47.959 --> 00:05:50.639 Sometimes there's every every now and then there's outliers where 124 00:05:51.040 --> 00:05:54.120 things can get really exciting because you catch things, but 125 00:05:54.160 --> 00:05:56.639 most of the time it's just pretty like kind of boring. 126 00:05:57.000 --> 00:05:59.160 Well that's good then that at least you then can 127 00:05:59.319 --> 00:06:01.040 you know, do the right gigs on the side to 128 00:06:01.079 --> 00:06:03.759 kind of keep that side of your brain going and yeah, 129 00:06:03.879 --> 00:06:05.680 nerd out and everything that way right. 130 00:06:05.839 --> 00:06:09.240 Definitely to keep my my brain working or thinking. 131 00:06:09.319 --> 00:06:11.079 Yeah, and that way you get to you get to 132 00:06:11.120 --> 00:06:12.959 express all your love for these movies because you're a 133 00:06:12.959 --> 00:06:15.120 big movie fan like I am like, I mean, I 134 00:06:15.160 --> 00:06:17.319 feel like, have you been watching movies since you were 135 00:06:17.319 --> 00:06:17.680 a kid? 136 00:06:18.480 --> 00:06:20.839 Oh yeah, like yeah all the time? 137 00:06:21.279 --> 00:06:23.360 Like right, And my my aunt was the one who 138 00:06:23.399 --> 00:06:26.360 got me into scary movies, so horror, she's what was, 139 00:06:26.480 --> 00:06:29.079 you know, watching my sisters? She's like, you know, let 140 00:06:29.120 --> 00:06:30.600 me let me watch them with her when I was 141 00:06:30.600 --> 00:06:33.360 not supposed to. But so I blame her for all 142 00:06:33.399 --> 00:06:34.279 that she knows it. 143 00:06:34.360 --> 00:06:36.959 That's amazing. I love it. Yeah, I love hearing you know, 144 00:06:37.040 --> 00:06:40.279 like my dad did not care about what about ratings? 145 00:06:40.279 --> 00:06:42.319 Who cares? Righted, r It's just a movie, Like he 146 00:06:42.399 --> 00:06:47.759 introduced me to some amazing, very adult, scary, disturbing stuff. 147 00:06:47.800

--> 00:06:50.279 So yeah, we have to appreciate those family members that 148 00:06:50.399 --> 00:06:52.240 just didn't care. Whatever, it's not a big deal, right 149 00:06:52.439 --> 00:06:54.600 And speaking of horror, Actually, Rudy, I saw your post. 150 00:06:54.759 --> 00:06:57.720 I saw that beautiful four k uh you have you 151 00:06:57.759 --> 00:06:59.560 just bought up the faculty? Did you watch it? How 152 00:06:59.560 --> 00:07:00.000 does it look? 153 00:07:00.120 --> 00:07:02.879 I haven't watched it yet because it came in Friday 154 00:07:03.000 --> 00:07:06.040 and by this stuff going on, so I will watch it. 155 00:07:06.319 --> 00:07:08.879 Yeah, I love that one. I mean that whole era 156 00:07:09.040 --> 00:07:11.240 late nineties. That was ninety eight, this is ninety nine. 157 00:07:11.279 --> 00:07:13.600 I mean like late nineties. God, it was just so 158 00:07:14.360 --> 00:07:17.439 everything looked so good. Everyone looked pretty good. I mean, 159 00:07:17.480 --> 00:07:20.399 Angelina's bangs they're given actually some gale weathers. I never 160 00:07:20.399 --> 00:07:23.160 really thought about that until this latest rewatch. Was like, okay, 161 00:07:23.480 --> 00:07:27.319 winter of two thousand, we were getting some real blunt, 162 00:07:27.519 --> 00:07:30.399 you know, scary bangs. But yeah, I love the faculty 163 00:07:30.480 --> 00:07:32.160 so much. I saw your post and I was like, yes, 164 00:07:32.360 --> 00:07:34.720 good for you. And that just came to four K. Right, 165 00:07:34.720 --> 00:07:39.399 that's a new discs Yeah right, yeah, like in the 166 00:07:39.399 --> 00:07:40.079 whole yea. 167 00:07:40.040 --> 00:07:41.560 I was of the price to drop, but it went 168 00:07:41.680 --> 00:07:43.639 up and then it dropped again, so I'm just gonna 169 00:07:43.639 --> 00:07:44.680 buy it, Like I can't wait. 170 00:07:45.759 --> 00:07:47.759 I know, yeah, how much are four ks? 171 00:07:47.800 --> 00:07:47.959 Now? 172 00:07:48.000 --> 00:07:49.120 I haven't bought a four k just. 173 00:07:49.360 --> 00:07:53.240 While sometimes it's like twenty five to thirty five forty bucks, 174 00:07:53.439 --> 00:07:56.519 this was it was like thirty eight, but it lived 175 00:07:56.560 --> 00:07:58.439 like forty four, and I was like, oh, I thought 176 00:07:58.439 --> 00:08:00.399 I was gonna go down, yeah down. 177 00:08:00.439 --> 00:08:01.079 I ordered it. 178 00:08:01.439 --> 00:08:04.160 Oh God, I got the substance. I got the substance 179 00:08:04.160 --> 00:08:06.240 four K for twenty four dollars. So it's like it 180 00:08:06.240 --> 00:08:06.920 just depends here. 181 00:08:07.279 --> 00:08:09.720 Yeah, that's so strange. I guess it really depends on 182 00:08:10.040 --> 00:08:12.480 the amount that's available maybe you know, I don't know. Yeah, 183 00:08:12.519 --> 00:08:14.399 but wow, the Substance. So you have that on four K. 184 00:08:15.040 --> 00:08:16.519 It's delayed, but it's on the way. 185 00:08:16.839 --> 00:08:18.639 Oh it's on the way. Oh my gosh. I think 186 00:08:18.639 --> 00:08:20.319 I'm gonna rewatch it. I have a screener because I'm 187 00:08:20.319 --> 00:08:23.120 in the you know, the Indie Spirit Awards. They do 188 00:08:23.160 --> 00:08:25.480 them every year. It's film independent. I'm I've been a 189 00:08:25.519 --> 00:08:28.000 member of them for a while and anyone should if 190 00:08:28.000 --> 00:08:30.480 you love indie movies, and you get to vote for 191 00:08:30.519 --> 00:08:32.480 the awards. But I have a screener of the Substance, 192 00:08:32.480 --> 00:08:33.879 and I think I want to watch it again before 193 00:08:34.320 --> 00:08:37.639 before it expires, because what I'm just so it's so 194 00:08:37.879 --> 00:08:40.720 fun and exciting that like it's getting so much love. 195 00:08:40.919 --> 00:08:43.320 You know, I'm happy for it. It was like I 196 00:08:43.600 --> 00:08:45.399 went in blind when I saw it, and so it 197 00:08:45.480 --> 00:08:48.480 was a great, just a fun watch. I gave it 198 00:08:48.559 --> 00:08:50.120 my highest rating last year for the Paper. 199 00:08:50.279 --> 00:08:52.399 So oh good. Yeah you wrote about that. Yeah, tell 200 00:08:52.480 --> 00:08:55.000 us real quick, because I know we can read your 201 00:08:55.000 --> 00:08:57.679 reviews online at least like some of them. Right, do 202 00:08:57.720 --> 00:08:59.799 you have another review coming soon for the Paper? Is 203 00:08:59.840 --> 00:09:01.039 a thing we can look forward. 204 00:09:00.840 --> 00:09:03.759 To it's it's like the Shipwreck one, the shipwreck horror movie. 205 00:09:03.840 --> 00:09:09.320 I'm oh, oh, the damned. Yeah I came out. 206 00:09:09.480 --> 00:09:12.600 I know that came out a few a month or 207 00:09:12.639 --> 00:09:15.559 so ago. Okay, the Damned I missed that one. Was 208 00:09:15.600 --> 00:09:16.120 it any good? 209 00:09:17.000 --> 00:09:17.639 I liked it? 210 00:09:17.919 --> 00:09:21.639 Okay, it's like it's like nineteenth century icelandic core. 211 00:09:21.720 --> 00:09:24.279 It's like set in Iceland. Oh, there was a lot 212 00:09:24.320 --> 00:09:25.679 of It was a really good one. I liked it. 213 00:09:25.679 --> 00:09:28.679 It's pretty cool, creepy. I love a good ninety minute 214 00:09:28.720 --> 00:09:29.440 movie these days. 215 00:09:29.600 --> 00:09:33.519 Oh yeah, I actually just today saw Presence. Speaking of horror, 216 00:09:33.559 --> 00:09:36.200 I saw that yesterday. Oh you saw it yesterday? All right, Well, 217 00:09:36.200 --> 00:09:38.639 we won't spoil it for anyone, but what did you think? 218 00:09:39.039 --> 00:09:41.799 Did you like? I really liked it. The third act 219 00:09:41.960 --> 00:09:42.720 was wild. 220 00:09:43.000 --> 00:09:44.759 I want to rewatch it someday and just kind of 221 00:09:44.799 --> 00:09:47.159 let it all wash over me again, you know. 222 00:09:47.639 --> 00:09:48.840 Yeah, I can't wait for me watch it. 223 00:09:49.320

--> 00:09:52.720 Yeah yeah, but anyway, Okay, enough of today, everyone, enough 224 00:09:52.720 --> 00:09:55.600 of horror. We are now going to a different kind, 225 00:09:55.639 --> 00:09:57.840 like I said, a different kind of horror, going to 226 00:09:57.960 --> 00:10:01.320 the sixties, where you know, women already were having a 227 00:10:01.320 --> 00:10:05.399 tough time, but especially women dealing with various you know, 228 00:10:05.559 --> 00:10:09.639 mental illnesses, various issues, and also just issues with the world, 229 00:10:09.840 --> 00:10:12.360 you know, calling them crazy women. So we're gonna, like 230 00:10:12.399 --> 00:10:13.919 nerd out here, We're going to go back in time. 231 00:10:14.240 --> 00:10:16.080 We're not going all the way to the sixties. We're 232 00:10:16.080 --> 00:10:18.840 going back to nineteen ninety nine, two thousand, when Girl 233 00:10:18.919 --> 00:10:22.480 Interrupted came out for its twenty fifth anniversary. Everybody, It 234 00:10:22.799 --> 00:10:26.240 came out in limited theaters December twenty first, ninety nine, 235 00:10:26.320 --> 00:10:28.679 right before the year ended. But I called this a 236 00:10:28.759 --> 00:10:31.600 January movie because Rudy, just so you know, when things 237 00:10:31.639 --> 00:10:33.519 go wide, I always think like, well, that's when most 238 00:10:33.519 --> 00:10:35.399 people were able to see it, So let's just you know, 239 00:10:35.480 --> 00:10:37.559 talk about it when it went wide. So it went 240 00:10:37.600 --> 00:10:40.679 wide January fourteenth, two thousand, and I saw this in 241 00:10:40.720 --> 00:10:41.039 the theater. 242 00:10:41.159 --> 00:10:42.919 Did you see in the theater, Rudy, I did not. 243 00:10:43.519 --> 00:10:45.600 Okay, you caught it later, you think maybe on TV 244 00:10:45.720 --> 00:10:46.840 or you rented it or something. 245 00:10:47.320 --> 00:10:51.039 I remember stocking the tapes at Blockbuster as I worked there, 246 00:10:51.159 --> 00:10:53.639 so I heard the whole shelf, the whole shelf of 247 00:10:53.879 --> 00:10:57.480 their faces, and Angelina added it the original post you 248 00:10:57.480 --> 00:10:58.000 didn't have her on. 249 00:10:58.039 --> 00:10:59.360 It was just in a writer's face. 250 00:10:59.399 --> 00:11:02.279 So when they did the tapes or the release, they 251 00:11:02.279 --> 00:11:04.759 put the Angeline on the cover. So I remember walking 252 00:11:05.200 --> 00:11:10.480 walking the wall and seeing wan On's face with Angelina. 253 00:11:10.879 --> 00:11:13.120 Yes, I know it's that interesting because you're so right. 254 00:11:13.159 --> 00:11:17.000 The original poster was almost kind of like Scream in 255 00:11:17.039 --> 00:11:20.840 a way where it's just huge Winona's wide eyes, her face. 256 00:11:21.200 --> 00:11:24.639 But yeah, because Angelina was getting so much buzz, rightfully, 257 00:11:24.679 --> 00:11:27.759 So she's amazing in this movie. And I'm sure by 258 00:11:27.759 --> 00:11:31.200 the time it came to Blockbuster, I think Angelina had 259 00:11:31.200 --> 00:11:33.559 already probably won the Oscar, right because back then movies 260 00:11:33.559 --> 00:11:36.679 didn't you know, come out that way for her home 261 00:11:36.759 --> 00:11:39.240 video until at least six months later, right. 262 00:11:39.440 --> 00:11:41.840 Yeah, I think it either she was either nominated or 263 00:11:41.879 --> 00:11:43.559 she had won, because I think we we're seeing like 264 00:11:43.960 --> 00:11:45.399 the logo the Oscar on it. 265 00:11:45.639 --> 00:11:45.879 Right. 266 00:11:46.080 --> 00:11:50.039 In nineteen sixty nine, the wild Ones went to Woodstock, 267 00:11:51.399 --> 00:11:53.360 the Unlucky Ones went to war. 268 00:11:53.840 --> 00:11:56.399 There's something happened in Yeah, but. 269 00:11:56.399 --> 00:11:58.639 If you didn't know where you were going, you have. 270 00:11:58.679 --> 00:12:01.039 The distinction of being the only seeing you not going 271 00:12:01.080 --> 00:12:01.759 on to college. 272 00:12:01.879 --> 00:12:02.720 I don't have a plan. 273 00:12:02.960 --> 00:12:04.440 I just don't want to end up. 274 00:12:04.360 --> 00:12:09.200 Like my mother, who's they said you to Claymore The best. 275 00:12:08.879 --> 00:12:10.919 Place in the world for someone like you is less 276 00:12:10.919 --> 00:12:11.799 than a half an hour. 277 00:12:11.639 --> 00:12:14.840 For my heart. Welcome to claim wossann Wow, how long 278 00:12:14.879 --> 00:12:15.919 did you work at Blockbuster? 279 00:12:16.519 --> 00:12:17.279 For a few years? 280 00:12:17.559 --> 00:12:19.360 It was fun. I made some good friends. I'm still 281 00:12:19.360 --> 00:12:23.360 friends with them today. It was just like it was retail, 282 00:12:23.440 --> 00:12:25.440 you know it. You had a good issue bad. I 283 00:12:25.440 --> 00:12:27.279 always had to work Friday and Saturday nights. 284 00:12:27.080 --> 00:12:31.600 So oh busy nights. Yeah, so there goes your social life, right, 285 00:12:31.840 --> 00:12:35.559 But I I wish I could go back in time. 286 00:12:35.600 --> 00:12:37.840 I mean, in nineteen ninety nine, I was too young 287 00:12:38.279 --> 00:12:40.759 to have a job. I was turning thirteen in two thousand, 288 00:12:41.200 --> 00:12:44.279 so I couldn't work at Blockbuster yet and then, but 289 00:12:44.320 --> 00:12:45.759 I could have worked there later. And I don't know 290 00:12:45.759 --> 00:12:47.399 why I didn't, because they didn't really go out of 291 00:12:47.399 --> 00:12:51.200 business until well, like I guess, like later in the 292 00:12:51.200 --> 00:12:55.120 two thousands, I think. Right. Yeah, So, man, I'm like 293 00:12:55.200 --> 00:12:57.600 living vicariously through you right now, looking at the walls, 294 00:12:58.200 --> 00:13:01.120 browsing the aisles. That's so. So you're there working and 295 00:13:01.120 --> 00:13:03.960 you're like, Okay, the second girl interrupted comes

here, I'm 296 00:13:04.159 --> 00:13:06.080 snatching a copy for myself. Right. 297 00:13:06.480 --> 00:13:08.720 We got five free rentals a week, so oh, good 298 00:13:08.759 --> 00:13:11.840 a week. Yeah, but they were free. If they were late, 299 00:13:11.840 --> 00:13:12.440 we got fees. 300 00:13:12.879 --> 00:13:15.559 Oh okay, good, Hey, you gotta follow the rules. You're 301 00:13:15.639 --> 00:13:19.240 not any more special than others. Right, wow, but five 302 00:13:19.279 --> 00:13:23.039 free rentals a week, Good job, Rudy, that's a good perk. 303 00:13:23.360 --> 00:13:25.399 I thought you're gonna say five a month, which still 304 00:13:25.480 --> 00:13:29.720 feels pretty decent. Wow, all right, blockbuster. See they don't 305 00:13:29.720 --> 00:13:31.600 make them like they used to. All right, well, okay, everybody, 306 00:13:31.639 --> 00:13:33.960 let's let's rewind. I'm gonna set the scene for you, Rudy. 307 00:13:34.000 --> 00:13:36.879 This is what was going on in January two thousand, 308 00:13:37.000 --> 00:13:40.200 so of course, everybody, we had just survived y two k. 309 00:13:40.519 --> 00:13:43.879 Remember that everyone was nervous about like New Year's Eve, 310 00:13:44.360 --> 00:13:47.320 the clocks are gonna reset and things are gonna I 311 00:13:47.360 --> 00:13:51.519 don't know the technological yes, guy did exactly. Things are 312 00:13:51.519 --> 00:13:53.960 gonna like short circuit and no one's gonna be able 313 00:13:54.000 --> 00:13:56.639 to communicate. Nah, we survived. It was all good right. 314 00:13:57.440 --> 00:14:00.600 On the music side, What a Girl Wants the One 315 00:14:00.600 --> 00:14:03.480 and Only ex Tina was the top song number one song. 316 00:14:04.399 --> 00:14:06.399 I love that song. I mean that album, that first 317 00:14:06.440 --> 00:14:12.039 album from Christina amazing. Oh yeah, oh yeah, I remember 318 00:14:12.120 --> 00:14:14.799 I also had a cassette tape This is so old 319 00:14:14.840 --> 00:14:18.559 of It was the single for Ganina Bottle so oh yeah, 320 00:14:18.639 --> 00:14:21.480 big Christina fan. She was like on top of the 321 00:14:21.480 --> 00:14:25.480 world with that album. Other top songs that were in 322 00:14:25.519 --> 00:14:27.159 the top ten. That just made me laugh, and I 323 00:14:27.399 --> 00:14:30.000 thought this could be fun. I knew I loved you 324 00:14:30.080 --> 00:14:37.279 from Savage Garden. I knew I loved right uh so catchy, 325 00:14:37.360 --> 00:14:39.919 not not really good. I loved Savage Garden for a 326 00:14:39.960 --> 00:14:42.879 bit there, but you know, just that really brought me 327 00:14:42.960 --> 00:14:46.679 back right. And then another good ballad, Whitney Houston's My 328 00:14:46.799 --> 00:14:49.799 Love is Your Love? Oh, I forget about that one. 329 00:14:49.840 --> 00:14:58.039 Sometimes will be right back. Those were some popular songs 330 00:14:58.240 --> 00:15:01.679 on the TV side. Usually January isn't like a

big 331 00:15:01.799 --> 00:15:04.200 TV month, especially back then when we were only watching 332 00:15:04.440 --> 00:15:08.279 really just broadcast, you know, networks. But Malcolm in the 333 00:15:08.320 --> 00:15:10.919 Middle had just premiered on Fox. Thought that was funny. 334 00:15:10.960 --> 00:15:12.879 That was when we were starting to learn who Brian 335 00:15:12.960 --> 00:15:15.799 Cranston was. You know, now he's this megastar, but back 336 00:15:15.840 --> 00:15:18.000 then we didn't really know who he was, right, And 337 00:15:18.440 --> 00:15:21.120 I never really watched this. I kind of forgot about it, 338 00:15:21.159 --> 00:15:23.000 and I realized, I guess I never watched that show, 339 00:15:23.320 --> 00:15:26.320 but saved by the bell. The New Class had just 340 00:15:26.399 --> 00:15:28.320 come to an end. I guess I didn't watch it 341 00:15:28.320 --> 00:15:31.759 because the original cast was so amazing that, like, who 342 00:15:31.799 --> 00:15:35.200 needs to see a spinoff with just Screech in like 343 00:15:35.240 --> 00:15:40.440 a supporting role right from yep he was still around. Yeah, 344 00:15:40.440 --> 00:15:43.080 but like newcast. I'm surprised. Actually I saw I was 345 00:15:43.080 --> 00:15:45.600 reading that like lasted six or seven seasons. I did 346 00:15:45.639 --> 00:15:47.639 not watch any of that. I must have just been like, 347 00:15:48.159 --> 00:15:49.759 did you. 348 00:15:49.120 --> 00:15:52.159 No if I watched anything? I saw clips like right right? 349 00:15:52.240 --> 00:15:55.279 Yeah? I think like even as kids, you know, we 350 00:15:55.279 --> 00:15:57.679 are already just like whatever, like old news. 351 00:15:57.720 --> 00:15:57.919 Right. 352 00:15:58.200 --> 00:15:59.799 So that was on the TV side and on the 353 00:15:59.840 --> 00:16:02.879 move beside. Other popular movies along with Girl Interrupted were 354 00:16:03.960 --> 00:16:07.919 Next Friday, the sequel to Friday Stuart Little, directed by 355 00:16:07.919 --> 00:16:12.120 the One and Only m Night Shyamalan, Crazy The Hurricane, Yeah, 356 00:16:12.120 --> 00:16:16.080 isn't that crazy? The Hurricane with Denzel Washington, The Green Mile, 357 00:16:16.320 --> 00:16:20.799 Tom Hanks, Galaxy Quest Sigourney, Tim Allen, and the talented 358 00:16:20.840 --> 00:16:23.440 mister Ripley, Matt Damon, Gwyneth Jude. I mean, we had 359 00:16:23.440 --> 00:16:25.799 some a good, a good kind of variety of all 360 00:16:25.840 --> 00:16:27.360 sorts of things. What do you what do you think 361 00:16:27.399 --> 00:16:29.399 of when you hear some of those movies, some good ones, 362 00:16:29.720 --> 00:16:31.360 some okay ones, some you know. 363 00:16:32.120 --> 00:16:32.440 Good ones. 364 00:16:32.559 --> 00:16:35.200 Definitely said the Hurricane, I was like, which, what was 365 00:16:35.240 --> 00:16:37.480 that about? Then I remember the Washington and then the 366 00:16:37.519 --> 00:16:39.320 tapes at Blockbuster and we had

a whole wall. We 367 00:16:39.360 --> 00:16:41.639 had a whole wall because it was so popular and 368 00:16:41.639 --> 00:16:44.240 it was always rented out. And then Gog's Quest is 369 00:16:44.240 --> 00:16:44.799 a good one. 370 00:16:45.120 --> 00:16:47.480 Oh yeah, I gotta think they got a recent steel 371 00:16:47.519 --> 00:16:48.519 book or four K, but. 372 00:16:48.639 --> 00:16:51.120 I think they did too, You're right, Yeah, I haven't 373 00:16:51.159 --> 00:16:54.200 seen that. That's another one, and even the talented mister Ripley. 374 00:16:54.519 --> 00:16:56.519 I mean, I remember it so well and it's so good, 375 00:16:56.519 --> 00:16:59.519 but I haven't really watched some of those movies in years. 376 00:17:00.000 --> 00:17:02.879 Any Quest was so fun, and I forgot how hot 377 00:17:03.360 --> 00:17:10.680 Sigourney there Ie. She is total babe, absolutely and she's 378 00:17:10.680 --> 00:17:13.119 I love her so much so and also just perfect 379 00:17:13.119 --> 00:17:14.799 casting for her to do that movie. I mean, I 380 00:17:14.839 --> 00:17:16.839 really have to rewatch that. And I know Sam rockwell 381 00:17:16.880 --> 00:17:20.000 before he was like super huge, you know, was in 382 00:17:20.039 --> 00:17:24.200 that so justin long You're right, You're right, yeah talking 383 00:17:24.240 --> 00:17:27.480 about it. I think I think I did see that too. 384 00:17:27.519 --> 00:17:28.039 I forgot it. 385 00:17:29.000 --> 00:17:31.880 Yeah, absolutely, I know, so we got some good ones, 386 00:17:31.880 --> 00:17:34.279 for sure. I guess I'm puzzled as to why it 387 00:17:34.359 --> 00:17:36.000 is I have to be in a mental institution. 388 00:17:36.279 --> 00:17:36.920 Call me a can. 389 00:17:37.119 --> 00:17:40.599 Okay, you're a can. You've chased a bottle of aspron 390 00:17:40.759 --> 00:17:46.119 with the bottle of vuk. I had a headache. Incomes 391 00:17:46.119 --> 00:17:49.039 Girl Interrupted, Like we said, in a few theaters at 392 00:17:49.039 --> 00:17:52.240 the end of December. Now in like probably close to 393 00:17:52.240 --> 00:17:54.799 two thousand theaters in January. This is the time when 394 00:17:54.799 --> 00:17:57.039 I throw it over to my guest, in your own words, 395 00:17:57.039 --> 00:17:59.000 and it does not need to be long. Give me 396 00:17:59.039 --> 00:18:01.519 a brief, little summary in your own words. What is 397 00:18:01.559 --> 00:18:03.720 Girl Interrupted about. It can be a little logline, it 398 00:18:03.759 --> 00:18:05.079 can be a little whatever you want. 399 00:18:05.440 --> 00:18:09.279 What is it, Girl Interpreter to me is the story 400 00:18:09.279 --> 00:18:13.160 of a woman that are a person who isn't ready 401 00:18:13.240 --> 00:18:16.480 to accept the consequence of her actions and has to 402 00:18:16.519 --> 00:18:20.720 like figure herself out, and she does that by leaning 403 00:18:20.759 --> 00:18:24.480 on the most lean, unexpected people, like the people she's 404 00:18:24.480 --> 00:18:26.319 in there with as far and also the staff. So 405 00:18:26.359 --> 00:18:29.279 she just has to find herself and navigate who who 406 00:18:29.400 --> 00:18:31.559 she's going to be here, what what her impacts, what 407 00:18:31.599 --> 00:18:35.000 she did to herself as far as like she's lost, 408 00:18:35.680 --> 00:18:36.759 and she's totally lost. 409 00:18:36.960 --> 00:18:38.200 She needs help. 410 00:18:38.279 --> 00:18:42.480 In finding the path to accepting herself and learning to 411 00:18:42.480 --> 00:18:43.200 love herself again. 412 00:18:43.759 --> 00:18:47.200 Mm hmm, oh beautiful. Oh my gosh. Yes, run of 413 00:18:47.200 --> 00:18:49.559 applause for Rudy. Let's get that on the back of 414 00:18:49.599 --> 00:18:53.920 the four K you know, DVD cover. Yeah, totally. And 415 00:18:53.960 --> 00:18:57.599 it's it's funny actually because I kind of forgot how 416 00:18:57.680 --> 00:19:02.160 young Susanna is. She's like eighteen nineteen, Like she's not 417 00:19:02.240 --> 00:19:04.839 going to college, Like she's like a high school graduate. 418 00:19:05.240 --> 00:19:07.119 So yeah, she's got so much growing up to do 419 00:19:07.160 --> 00:19:08.799 in a short amount of time, you know what I mean. 420 00:19:09.680 --> 00:19:11.880 Definitely, I remember like the scene where she's talking to 421 00:19:11.920 --> 00:19:13.759 her guidance counselor about like she's like the only one 422 00:19:13.799 --> 00:19:16.039 not going to college, but she was a writer, you know, 423 00:19:16.039 --> 00:19:17.359 so that I was like, oh, that's why I run. 424 00:19:17.400 --> 00:19:21.000 Oh, she's a child, like she's barely leaving school totally. 425 00:19:21.200 --> 00:19:24.759 Yeah, And so do you think because she's still a child, 426 00:19:25.160 --> 00:19:27.599 do you think she like now that we've rewatched it 427 00:19:27.640 --> 00:19:29.000 for the first time in a long time. For me, 428 00:19:29.599 --> 00:19:32.359 now that we've watched it, is, is she actually like 429 00:19:32.640 --> 00:19:35.720 mentally ill, mentally unstable, whatever you want to call it, 430 00:19:35.880 --> 00:19:38.839 or is she just being like a dumb kid and 431 00:19:39.000 --> 00:19:41.400 just needs a little bit of like tough love. What 432 00:19:41.440 --> 00:19:41.920 do you think? 433 00:19:43.119 --> 00:19:43.279 You know? 434 00:19:43.319 --> 00:19:45.480 I was, I was I was imagining that, like why 435 00:19:45.559 --> 00:19:47.920 was she in this institution with all these people that 436 00:19:47.960 --> 00:19:51.640 were all obviously had issues of themselves, right, And I 437 00:19:51.680 --> 00:19:53.960 was even I was like, wow, like did she did 438 00:19:53.960 --> 00:19:56.240 they just chuck her in there because their parents don't 439 00:19:56.240 --> 00:19:58.759 want to deal with it, because parents were more concerned 440 00:19:58.759 --> 00:20:01.079 about their image with their friends and the the

community 441 00:20:01.119 --> 00:20:04.880 around them. So with their daughter, you know, self harming 442 00:20:04.920 --> 00:20:06.960 herself and they didn't want they didn't want to deal 443 00:20:07.000 --> 00:20:08.200 with they didn't want to talk to her about it. 444 00:20:08.240 --> 00:20:10.799 So this kind of just pushed her into this facility. 445 00:20:11.559 --> 00:20:13.200 I really just thought she was just a person that 446 00:20:13.279 --> 00:20:16.880 made a mistake. You know, I had a hard time 447 00:20:17.839 --> 00:20:20.480 and she did something an extreme. I just thought that 448 00:20:20.480 --> 00:20:22.720 maybe just like maybe going to counseling would have been fine, 449 00:20:23.240 --> 00:20:26.319 not blocking her up in an institution for eighteen months 450 00:20:26.680 --> 00:20:27.319 to kind of like. 451 00:20:27.480 --> 00:20:29.640 Sold out her stuff. But so that was a bit 452 00:20:29.640 --> 00:20:31.119 of a bit of extreme for her parents to do. 453 00:20:31.680 --> 00:20:34.960 I agree, Yeah, because especially and like in the beginning, 454 00:20:35.000 --> 00:20:37.519 you know, when we're meeting her and like she's smoking, 455 00:20:37.599 --> 00:20:41.079 and and we learned what she did right the line. 456 00:20:41.119 --> 00:20:43.079 You know, you swallowed a bottle of a bottle of 457 00:20:43.119 --> 00:20:45.079 aspirin with a bottle of vodka something like that, right, 458 00:20:45.119 --> 00:20:49.000 and she says I had a headache, right, so badass. 459 00:20:49.160 --> 00:20:53.559 But like the therapist, whoever psychiatrist? You know this doctor 460 00:20:53.559 --> 00:20:56.680 who's saying that to her, I forgot, but like he's 461 00:20:56.759 --> 00:20:58.680 just a family friend. He even says like, well, I 462 00:20:58.680 --> 00:21:01.680 don't really do this anymore. It's like, wait, okay, she 463 00:21:01.680 --> 00:21:03.720 should talk to someone who does this, you know, who 464 00:21:03.839 --> 00:21:06.599 is still licensed. And maybe all she needs is, yeah, 465 00:21:06.680 --> 00:21:08.480 just like a weekly session with someone. I don't know 466 00:21:08.480 --> 00:21:11.400 if she needs to like be locked away, like like 467 00:21:11.480 --> 00:21:16.240 exactly how you said, with women who have real you know, problems, 468 00:21:16.359 --> 00:21:19.519 real trauma to work through. I mean you got Elizabeth 469 00:21:19.559 --> 00:21:23.559 Moss with the burns, you got, I mean obviously Angelina, Lisa, 470 00:21:23.599 --> 00:21:28.359 you have Daisy, Oh my gosh, Brittany Murphy, Oh my god, 471 00:21:28.640 --> 00:21:32.799 Brittany amazing work. But like you have some real, you know, 472 00:21:33.000 --> 00:21:36.200 dark stuff. And like even even Susanne is kind of 473 00:21:36.240 --> 00:21:36.920 like why am I here? 474 00:21:37.279 --> 00:21:40.720 You know, like her parents never came to visit her. 475 00:21:40.920 --> 00:21:44.200 I never come to visit I know that Joanna

kurns Man. 476 00:21:44.279 --> 00:21:45.720 She looked so good in this movie. Did you ever 477 00:21:45.720 --> 00:21:46.960 see Growing Pains the show? 478 00:21:47.039 --> 00:21:49.039 Yeah, yeah, she's familiar to me. I don't look her 479 00:21:49.400 --> 00:21:52.240 quick like the familiar face and so right, that makes sense. 480 00:21:52.319 --> 00:21:54.839 Look, she looks the exact same from from her Growing 481 00:21:54.839 --> 00:21:57.240 Pains days, like you know, ten years prior. So yeah, 482 00:21:57.240 --> 00:21:59.200 she doesn't have much to do. But yeah, you're so right. 483 00:21:59.400 --> 00:22:02.000 They are so focused on image and the parties and 484 00:22:02.480 --> 00:22:04.680 all that that, like they they won't even be seen 485 00:22:04.720 --> 00:22:07.599 at the at what is it, Claymore, you know, at 486 00:22:07.599 --> 00:22:10.920 the hospital so dark, so twist it. They'll give her 487 00:22:10.960 --> 00:22:12.279 a call, but that's it, you know. 488 00:22:12.839 --> 00:22:16.160 Yeah, And it was thirty minutes away, so it wasn't close, 489 00:22:16.240 --> 00:22:17.759 but it wasn't far, not at all. 490 00:22:18.400 --> 00:22:20.079 But they didn't even visit. So that was like a 491 00:22:20.079 --> 00:22:21.519 big red flag, right. 492 00:22:21.839 --> 00:22:23.880 I know, if I was Whoopy, I'd be like, okay, girl, 493 00:22:23.920 --> 00:22:26.119 you need a new set of parents. Let's let's get 494 00:22:26.160 --> 00:22:26.920 you somewhere else. 495 00:22:27.559 --> 00:22:30.640 Oh I love it. I know she pulled up I saw. 496 00:22:30.680 --> 00:22:32.079 I'm like, oh, yeah, she's in this movie. 497 00:22:32.200 --> 00:22:34.359 Yeah, she's kind of She's just waiting there for the 498 00:22:34.400 --> 00:22:37.400 cab to arrive, you know, yeah, Oh she's really fun. 499 00:22:37.440 --> 00:22:40.480 Well wildered out about all these great women, these great 500 00:22:40.519 --> 00:22:42.519 actors that be sweets. 501 00:22:42.599 --> 00:22:43.720 Oh I don't, I don't need them. 502 00:22:43.799 --> 00:22:48.920 I'm going to have a problem. Look at me. I'll 503 00:22:49.000 --> 00:22:52.160 just kind of tell everyone where our key players were 504 00:22:52.480 --> 00:22:55.559 and how this movie started. Okay, so obviously based on 505 00:22:55.559 --> 00:22:59.799 a book by the real Susanna Cason, right, and although 506 00:22:59.880 --> 00:23:02.359 she apparently maybe you saw this too, Apparently she was 507 00:23:02.400 --> 00:23:04.559 one of the film's main detractors where I guess she 508 00:23:04.640 --> 00:23:08.039 did not love some of the embellishments, Like I guess 509 00:23:08.599 --> 00:23:12.519 Susannah and Lisa never did escape, you know, the hospital 510 00:23:12.599 --> 00:23:14.440 and go to Daisy's house. I guess that was all 511 00:23:14.480 --> 00:23:17.240 made up apparently, but a lot of it was based 512 00:23:17.240 --> 00:23:18.920 on her book. But I guess she was really upset 513 00:23:18.960 --> 00:23:21.960 that they took a lot of you know, fictional twists 514 00:23:21.960 --> 00:23:24.440 and turns that were not real. But what was real 515 00:23:24.599 --> 00:23:28.200 was Susannah really did, you know, have a whole bunch 516 00:23:28.240 --> 00:23:30.759 of aspirin and try to drink herself to death at 517 00:23:30.799 --> 00:23:34.200 a very young age. So at least the beginning is real, right, 518 00:23:34.599 --> 00:23:37.000 and so you might have seen this. To Rudy that 519 00:23:37.039 --> 00:23:39.240 Winona Ryder like was a big not only is she 520 00:23:39.279 --> 00:23:42.240 in it, she produced it. You know, she partnered with 521 00:23:42.240 --> 00:23:44.960 a producer named Douglas Wick. She got the rights to 522 00:23:45.039 --> 00:23:49.359 the book after you know, some kind of rights, you know, battles. 523 00:23:49.680 --> 00:23:52.359 She got it with with Columbia Pictures, and they developed 524 00:23:52.359 --> 00:23:54.759 it for her to star, of course, and so then 525 00:23:54.799 --> 00:23:57.319 it took a few years some different scripts trying to 526 00:23:57.359 --> 00:23:59.279 find the right kind of script for this, and so 527 00:23:59.279 --> 00:24:01.920 I'm sure it was to adapt all this stuff. And 528 00:24:01.960 --> 00:24:04.759 I love the back and forth. We don't see it 529 00:24:04.799 --> 00:24:07.559 like in the last half, but the first half. I 530 00:24:07.599 --> 00:24:11.400 love the cutting between like present and past, and you know, 531 00:24:11.519 --> 00:24:14.279 a door opens and in someone's apartment, I think it's 532 00:24:14.359 --> 00:24:16.599 Jared Leto's apartment, and then you see like one of 533 00:24:16.640 --> 00:24:20.279 the nurses saying checks Like, I loved all that interweaving 534 00:24:20.400 --> 00:24:22.240 of like past and present. Did you like that? 535 00:24:22.799 --> 00:24:23.119 I did? 536 00:24:23.400 --> 00:24:25.880 I know, Yeah, that part it just kind of made 537 00:24:25.920 --> 00:24:27.920 it wasn't confusing like some movies will do that and 538 00:24:27.960 --> 00:24:29.640 it can be a little jarring, but this one kind 539 00:24:29.680 --> 00:24:32.480 of made sense because you're you're going through her lens 540 00:24:32.720 --> 00:24:34.759 and so you're seeing what you're kind of seeing what 541 00:24:34.799 --> 00:24:37.000 she's going through as far as what she's remembering because 542 00:24:37.000 --> 00:24:39.400 she's in Klaymoark, so she's probably writing in her book 543 00:24:39.480 --> 00:24:41.319 or thinking about stuff while she's in her room. So 544 00:24:41.319 --> 00:24:44.240 she's having these images and her memories. And then then 545 00:24:44.279 --> 00:24:45.839 reality comes in and it's like, Hi, by the way, 546 00:24:46.000 --> 00:24:46.880 you're still in here. 547 00:24:47.319 --> 00:24:50.559 Right, yeah, I think, And it's so seamless, and the 548 00:24:50.640 --> 00:24:52.440 camera just kind of turns and

it's like, oh, we're 549 00:24:52.440 --> 00:24:54.759 back here. I kind of missed some of that in 550 00:24:54.799 --> 00:24:57.640 the later half, but then I remembered, Well, she's getting better, 551 00:24:57.759 --> 00:25:00.640 you know. And she even says, you know, doctors, She's like, 552 00:25:00.680 --> 00:25:03.359 I'm getting better, you know. So naturally we wouldn't be 553 00:25:03.480 --> 00:25:06.440 so kind of all over the place, so it makes sense. 554 00:25:06.759 --> 00:25:11.079 But so yeah, so incomes so writer gets a writer, 555 00:25:11.200 --> 00:25:14.640 director James Mangold, to come in and he co wrote 556 00:25:14.680 --> 00:25:17.039 the script with a writer named Lisa Lumer. He directed 557 00:25:17.039 --> 00:25:18.960 it How funny. He's having a moment right now with 558 00:25:20.200 --> 00:25:22.640 a complete unknown, the Bob Dylan movie he directed that. 559 00:25:22.720 --> 00:25:23.319 Have you seen that? 560 00:25:23.680 --> 00:25:24.359 I've heard you think? 561 00:25:24.359 --> 00:25:27.400 My friends recently saw I haven't yet, but they said 562 00:25:27.400 --> 00:25:28.480 it was really really good. 563 00:25:28.559 --> 00:25:31.279 They thought, really, okay, there's something about that. I'm just 564 00:25:31.759 --> 00:25:32.720 I don't know why I'm like. 565 00:25:32.759 --> 00:25:38.559 Not, yeah, but they're saying that the we're talking about Oscars, 566 00:25:38.559 --> 00:25:40.720 and so they were saying that the nominations were justify 567 00:25:40.759 --> 00:25:43.000 as far as like, well, ok they saw all. 568 00:25:42.960 --> 00:25:44.920 Right, yeah, because it got a good amount, I know, 569 00:25:45.000 --> 00:25:48.480 like obviously Timmy and the actress, the supporting actress Monica, 570 00:25:48.759 --> 00:25:52.720 and then Edward Norton got Yeah. 571 00:25:52.960 --> 00:25:55.359 My friend was saying that he was really good. He's 572 00:25:55.359 --> 00:25:56.759 always really good in the movies he's in. 573 00:25:57.160 --> 00:25:59.640 Oh yeah, yeah, he never does a bad job. But yeah, 574 00:25:59.680 --> 00:26:01.960 that it just sort of not that it surprised me. 575 00:26:02.039 --> 00:26:04.079 I knew it was coming, but I'm just like, wow, Okay, 576 00:26:04.119 --> 00:26:06.799 this movie, I guess, really is a major contender, you know, 577 00:26:06.839 --> 00:26:09.000 and now with all these nods for sure. Yeah, so 578 00:26:09.160 --> 00:26:12.920 he's having a moment. But he had previously directed a Copland, 579 00:26:12.960 --> 00:26:15.400 which I never saw. But again going back to Blockbuster, 580 00:26:15.680 --> 00:26:18.559 I remember seeing the the vhs there on the wall 581 00:26:18.599 --> 00:26:20.400 and I was like, ooh, so that's just alone looking 582 00:26:20.480 --> 00:26:24.759 very right, Harvey Kaitel. I think so Copland and he 583 00:26:25.240 --> 00:26:28.160 his directorial debut. His feature debut was a film called 584 00:26:28.519 --> 00:26:33.440 Heavy with liv Tyler and an after named Pruett Taylor Vince, 585 00:26:33.480 --> 00:26:36.519 who then re teamed with James Mangold a couple of 586 00:26:36.680 --> 00:26:39.240 years after this in a great horror movie Identity. 587 00:26:39.359 --> 00:26:41.680 Do you remember Identity? 588 00:26:41.960 --> 00:26:44.440 Yeah, I forgot James Mangold did that. He does all 589 00:26:44.480 --> 00:26:47.519 sorts of genres. It's pretty impressive. But yeah, I love Identity. 590 00:26:47.559 --> 00:26:48.880 I haven't seen that one in a long time. At 591 00:26:48.880 --> 00:26:51.960 the Motel Rainy, Yeah, yeah, I love. 592 00:26:52.160 --> 00:26:54.920 I remember record or Morning was cast in that and 593 00:26:55.200 --> 00:26:58.000 I saw a little crush on her and so she 594 00:26:58.079 --> 00:26:59.240 was in a so I really wanted to see it, 595 00:26:59.279 --> 00:27:01.319 you know, because you know, yeah, so I remember I 596 00:27:01.319 --> 00:27:03.559 hadn't seen it in a while though it's been a while. 597 00:27:04.039 --> 00:27:06.920 Yeah, So that's James man Gold. Let's move over real quick. 598 00:27:06.960 --> 00:27:09.599 We'll just talk about our like lead ladies. We'll talk 599 00:27:09.640 --> 00:27:12.279 more about the all the other supporting ladies, but at 600 00:27:12.400 --> 00:27:15.960 least our leads. Going back to Wanona, she was previously 601 00:27:16.000 --> 00:27:17.920 in just up in like in the year or two 602 00:27:18.079 --> 00:27:20.680 right before this Celebrity, which was a fun one with 603 00:27:20.799 --> 00:27:30.319 I think was that a Woody Allen movie? I think so, yeah, Leola, yeah, right, 604 00:27:30.400 --> 00:27:32.440 all the faces exactly. Yes, So she was in that 605 00:27:33.000 --> 00:27:37.039 and also, I mean just two years prior Alien Resurrection. 606 00:27:37.359 --> 00:27:40.119 Going back to Sigourney, so this was an interesting time 607 00:27:40.119 --> 00:27:42.440 for Winona. She was already nominated for an Oscar and 608 00:27:42.440 --> 00:27:44.240 Little Women, which I just talked about. So this is 609 00:27:44.240 --> 00:27:47.799 like Winona month on the podcast. So yeah, this was 610 00:27:47.839 --> 00:27:50.000 a couple of years after that. She's trying some different 611 00:27:50.039 --> 00:27:54.480 things action, like more gritty, gritty kind of drama like this. 612 00:27:54.599 --> 00:27:57.880 So yeah, she's doing some cool stuff. Moving over to 613 00:27:58.039 --> 00:28:00.440 the Great Angelina, who, like we were saying, won the 614 00:28:00.519 --> 00:28:04.279 Oscar for this supporting role. And I mean remember Rudy 615 00:28:04.279 --> 00:28:06.400 when she won. That was the infamous night where she 616 00:28:06.480 --> 00:28:07.039 kissed her. 617 00:28:06.920 --> 00:28:10.640 Brother, I remember that, right, and she looked. 618 00:28:10.519 --> 00:28:13.599 Very very pale, very black hair. I don't know why 619 00:28:13.680 --> 00:28:15.400 she looked like that.

Maybe she was getting ready to 620 00:28:15.440 --> 00:28:19.799 shoot Lara Croft tomb Raider or maybe something else in between, 621 00:28:20.039 --> 00:28:21.319 I forget, But. 622 00:28:21.799 --> 00:28:24.960 Yeah, it was just another Sunday for her, right, She's 623 00:28:25.000 --> 00:28:28.079 just like, I'm gonna go We're gonna wear dark clob 624 00:28:28.119 --> 00:28:28.559 black clothes. 625 00:28:28.559 --> 00:28:30.079 I'm gonna make out with him. We're fine. 626 00:28:30.440 --> 00:28:33.359 Yeah, We're just like two vampires, just like you know 627 00:28:33.480 --> 00:28:34.359 here at the Oscars. 628 00:28:34.440 --> 00:28:34.599 Right. 629 00:28:34.839 --> 00:28:37.240 Yeah, So that was a big moment for her in 630 00:28:37.559 --> 00:28:40.640 multiple ways. But so she had just previously done the 631 00:28:40.640 --> 00:28:43.720 Bone collector. I remember that. I really like that one. Yeah, 632 00:28:43.799 --> 00:28:46.599 I have the old DVD somewhere Henzel. 633 00:28:46.880 --> 00:28:47.079 Right. 634 00:28:47.480 --> 00:28:49.079 She was also in a movie I love, even though 635 00:28:49.079 --> 00:28:50.440 it might not be great. I don't know if it's 636 00:28:50.440 --> 00:28:53.640 aged well, but a movie one of those many movies 637 00:28:53.680 --> 00:28:57.279 we've seen with like a big cast interwoven stories playing 638 00:28:57.359 --> 00:29:00.519 by Heart where it's her and the cutest Ryan Phillippy 639 00:29:00.599 --> 00:29:01.240 with blue hair. 640 00:29:01.839 --> 00:29:03.920 Right, that was like that movie I love. 641 00:29:04.000 --> 00:29:06.039 I know. I'm so glad you love it too. 642 00:29:06.119 --> 00:29:07.920 I have it on DVD, And then I bought the 643 00:29:07.920 --> 00:29:11.839 Blu ray because that ray I came out for No, 644 00:29:11.960 --> 00:29:13.720 it's a very small run, but I remember I got 645 00:29:13.759 --> 00:29:15.720 for like twenty five bucks. But now it's like six 646 00:29:15.799 --> 00:29:19.359 years more. But I love to come the soundtrack somewhere 647 00:29:19.400 --> 00:29:19.799 over here. 648 00:29:20.240 --> 00:29:22.480 I'm so glad you love the soundtrack too. Yes, I 649 00:29:22.519 --> 00:29:25.000 have a song that is the weirdest song, drinking in 650 00:29:25.160 --> 00:29:28.839 La that I'm pretty sure is h huh yes, yes, yes, yes, 651 00:29:28.880 --> 00:29:31.559 oh my god, you're speaking my language. Yes, I think 652 00:29:31.559 --> 00:29:33.759 that opens the movie if I remember correctly, I'm pretty 653 00:29:33.759 --> 00:29:37.039 sure that starts like the opening credits. But yeah, such 654 00:29:37.039 --> 00:29:40.720 a cute Angelina and Ryan and like Gillian Anderson and 655 00:29:40.839 --> 00:29:43.759 oh my gosh, everyone Jenna Rowlands, I mean everyone said 656 00:29:46.279 --> 00:29:50.559 he was an R right, yeah, Anthony Edwards, thank you, yes, yes, yes, yes, 657 00:29:50.640 --> 00:29:53.279 uh huh. And I think also John Stewart before he was. 658

00:29:53.200 --> 00:29:56.000 Like yeah, like cute and. 659 00:29:56.079 --> 00:29:58.920 Right doing like what he does that we know him for. 660 00:29:59.200 --> 00:30:01.599 You know, he actually act going back to the faculty 661 00:30:01.640 --> 00:30:04.400 as well, he was in that, right, So playing by 662 00:30:04.400 --> 00:30:07.240 her and she also of course really I mean we 663 00:30:07.240 --> 00:30:09.839 were just talking about hackers on Instagram. She was in that, 664 00:30:09.880 --> 00:30:13.200 of course. But right before this, about a year before, 665 00:30:13.240 --> 00:30:16.359 she was in that big TV movie that really got 666 00:30:16.359 --> 00:30:21.200 her major Gia. Remember Gia. Yes, that was a big deal. 667 00:30:21.240 --> 00:30:24.359 And it makes total sense for her to be chosen 668 00:30:24.400 --> 00:30:27.640 to play this role because I mean seeing her in Gia, 669 00:30:27.720 --> 00:30:32.240 all that fire and sexiness and just like all the complications, 670 00:30:32.240 --> 00:30:34.519 it makes total sense for her to play Lisa, you know, 671 00:30:34.720 --> 00:30:42.440 like no brainer eyes and low's increasingly to the ear. 672 00:30:42.599 --> 00:30:44.480 Weasa think she's hot because she's a social fath. 673 00:30:46.119 --> 00:30:46.960 I'm a social math. 674 00:30:47.519 --> 00:30:49.720 No, you're gay. So those are our two leads, and 675 00:30:49.880 --> 00:30:51.720 I'll just wrap it up here with Whoopee, going back 676 00:30:51.720 --> 00:30:53.720 to good old Whoopee, who I love in this movie. 677 00:30:53.759 --> 00:30:56.839 She says so much on her face. You know, she 678 00:30:56.839 --> 00:30:59.079 doesn't have to say anything with her mouth, but her 679 00:30:59.119 --> 00:31:01.920 eyes just when she just glaring at them or just 680 00:31:01.960 --> 00:31:04.480 looking sadly or you know, like I'm just like I 681 00:31:04.640 --> 00:31:08.000 love her, like she's such a motherly figure, but she's 682 00:31:08.079 --> 00:31:11.000 not at all like warm. She's still got that cold like. 683 00:31:11.240 --> 00:31:12.640 Yeah, it doesn't work, you know. 684 00:31:12.920 --> 00:31:15.480 Yeah, you can tell she cares about them, you know, 685 00:31:15.559 --> 00:31:17.640 she really wants the best for them, but she has 686 00:31:17.720 --> 00:31:20.079 to be She knows she can't be their friend. She 687 00:31:20.160 --> 00:31:22.680 needs to be someone that they can respect and go to. 688 00:31:22.880 --> 00:31:25.079 But she's not gonna let not be their friends. She 689 00:31:25.079 --> 00:31:27.200 can't be, you know, she shouldn't allow herself to be that. 690 00:31:27.279 --> 00:31:28.359 But yeah, I love. 691 00:31:28.279 --> 00:31:30.400 Seeing her in the movie and love that you I 692 00:31:30.440 --> 00:31:33.759 was gonna be walked away for you know, for self care. 693 00:31:34.039 --> 00:31:37.079 I would want to be in the care of Woodby right. 694 00:31:37.440 --> 00:31:38.279 Me to. 695 00:31:39.680 --> 00:31:42.599 Sounds great, Like I would be like, teach me everything, 696 00:31:42.759 --> 00:31:46.039 like tell me your whole story, right everything. I know, 697 00:31:46.240 --> 00:31:47.720 I'd be like, it's all right, you can watch me 698 00:31:47.759 --> 00:31:50.839 shave my legs, like let's chat girl, right, But I 699 00:31:50.880 --> 00:31:53.359 know Winona Susannah did not like that at all, Right, 700 00:31:53.799 --> 00:31:57.119 But so when Whoopee was just in before this The 701 00:31:57.160 --> 00:31:59.319 Deep End of the Ocean, completely forgot. She's in that 702 00:31:59.319 --> 00:32:02.640 movie with Michelle Fighter maybe Treat Williams. 703 00:32:03.079 --> 00:32:06.079 I think she loses her child. 704 00:32:06.480 --> 00:32:08.079 Yeah, like I think she loses her child and then 705 00:32:08.160 --> 00:32:11.119 years later he comes back. I believe it's foggy, might have. 706 00:32:11.240 --> 00:32:13.960 I might have only seen it once back then, you know, 707 00:32:14.000 --> 00:32:17.160 but I just remember the poster is like Michelle hugging 708 00:32:17.480 --> 00:32:20.200 like a young man, a you know, older boy. So 709 00:32:20.240 --> 00:32:22.599 Whoopy was supporting in that. She was in How Stella 710 00:32:22.680 --> 00:32:25.000 Got her Groove Back with Angela Bassett, that of course 711 00:32:25.119 --> 00:32:28.480 was a big thing. And she had also just done 712 00:32:28.759 --> 00:32:31.079 the Alice in Wonderland TV movie. I think it was 713 00:32:31.240 --> 00:32:33.480 for NBC where she played the cheshire Cat, which I 714 00:32:33.519 --> 00:32:35.279 remember at that time. I was like, oh my god, 715 00:32:35.400 --> 00:32:37.599 that makes great sense. I gotta watch Whoopee in this 716 00:32:37.720 --> 00:32:40.279 TV movie. Back then, when you know, all the networks 717 00:32:40.279 --> 00:32:42.720 would do like two or three night like TV movies, 718 00:32:42.720 --> 00:32:45.359 I kind of miss those, you know, miniseries, I guess, 719 00:32:45.400 --> 00:32:48.279 you know. So that's where I'll leave off. But we 720 00:32:48.319 --> 00:32:50.839 have many more people will talk about as we nerd out. 721 00:32:50.839 --> 00:32:54.640 But Rudy tell me, you know, why when I asked you, 722 00:32:54.680 --> 00:32:56.960 would you want to talk about Girl Interrupted, why'd you 723 00:32:57.000 --> 00:32:57.480 say yes? 724 00:32:58.519 --> 00:33:00.359 I think it's because I had to see in a 725 00:33:00.359 --> 00:33:03.440 while on a gaming opportunity to revisit it. Yeah, and 726 00:33:03.519 --> 00:33:05.920 I just know that I love the cast, you know. 727 00:33:06.039 --> 00:33:08.319 I was like, okay, I could revisit this, you know, 728 00:33:08.319 --> 00:33:12.039 see a Brittny Murphy performance essentially early and so again 729 00:33:12.279 --> 00:33:13.680 I was reminded what he was in it, but I 730 00:33:13.720 --> 00:33:15.119 just knew Jered Leta was in it, So I just 731

00:33:15.160 --> 00:33:16.400 wanted to check it out again. 732 00:33:16.440 --> 00:33:19.279 And I'm like, why not revisit it with the purpose 733 00:33:19.599 --> 00:33:21.880 to discuss it? You know? It's fun. 734 00:33:22.319 --> 00:33:24.519 Yeah, I love that. I'm so glad you're here. And yeah, 735 00:33:24.680 --> 00:33:26.759 even with Jared Little like I mean, for me, the 736 00:33:26.799 --> 00:33:31.160 whole cast is great. I don't think there's one week person, right, 737 00:33:31.240 --> 00:33:34.119 I mean, I think everyone is perfectly cast. And we 738 00:33:34.119 --> 00:33:37.279 have Clea Duval who's great and especially back then, was 739 00:33:37.319 --> 00:33:41.640 really you know on movies right, so young that yeah, 740 00:33:41.720 --> 00:33:43.960 and like Elizabeth Moss I was reading was only fifteen. 741 00:33:44.240 --> 00:33:45.720 I mean, it's it's kind of hard to tell because 742 00:33:45.720 --> 00:33:48.640 of course with her with her makeup, her her burn scars, 743 00:33:48.680 --> 00:33:51.200 but and she's playing young but I didn't realize she 744 00:33:51.279 --> 00:33:53.880 was that young in real life, you know. And even 745 00:33:53.960 --> 00:33:58.319 like Angela Bettis, she's got great sassy energy. And it's 746 00:33:58.359 --> 00:34:01.319 funny to see Jeffrey Tambour like, I'm just so used 747 00:34:01.319 --> 00:34:04.039 to what he looks like now, or at least in 748 00:34:04.079 --> 00:34:07.079 the last few years with that show Transparent, right, that like, 749 00:34:07.119 --> 00:34:08.960 oh I forgot he was like a little bit pudgier, 750 00:34:09.079 --> 00:34:10.840 you know, like he had a round her face and 751 00:34:11.440 --> 00:34:14.280 you know, so I just think the whole cast overall 752 00:34:14.760 --> 00:34:15.960 really really. 753 00:34:18.000 --> 00:34:21.800 Yeah, yes, didn't have much and she had some key parts, 754 00:34:21.840 --> 00:34:24.400 but she didn't have a lot, but she but she 755 00:34:24.440 --> 00:34:27.199 was effective when she was then because she just nice 756 00:34:27.199 --> 00:34:29.159 to hear a voice he heard talk, you know, Oh 757 00:34:29.199 --> 00:34:30.119 my Gordeous, it's. 758 00:34:30.079 --> 00:34:32.840 So soothing, absolutely, and you know what I love. She's 759 00:34:32.880 --> 00:34:35.760 like the head doctor, right, doctor Wicks, right, And I 760 00:34:35.800 --> 00:34:39.360 just love how she's there managing people's health and she's 761 00:34:39.360 --> 00:34:40.760 smoking inside and I'm just. 762 00:34:40.719 --> 00:34:43.480 Like so much in the movie everybody so. 763 00:34:43.400 --> 00:34:45.880 Much everyone's smoking. I know, but you would think, like, okay, 764 00:34:45.880 --> 00:34:48.480 maybe at least the one of the main doctors wouldn't 765 00:34:48.480 --> 00:34:49.920 do that, but no, everyone was right. 766 00:34:50.239 --> 00:34:55.079 Yes, when she wh when his character got to the 767 00:34:55.119 --> 00:34:58.039 facility

and they were talking about doctor Wicks. She kept 768 00:34:58.079 --> 00:35:01.079 referring at first then being made and they work, and 769 00:35:01.119 --> 00:35:04.039 that corrects her like, no, that's the female. And so 770 00:35:04.880 --> 00:35:07.119 it kind of made me think about like the timeframe, 771 00:35:07.199 --> 00:35:09.480 you know, they just didn't you know, the time when 772 00:35:09.559 --> 00:35:12.440 we said in so absolutely she assumed that B, a 773 00:35:12.519 --> 00:35:15.000 male doctor would be ahead of the absolutely. 774 00:35:15.360 --> 00:35:18.199 Yeah for sure. Yeah. I think that's a great way 775 00:35:18.679 --> 00:35:21.280 to talk about that time without it being like a 776 00:35:21.320 --> 00:35:24.119 full on conversation. It's just an assumption and a quick 777 00:35:24.159 --> 00:35:26.360 correction and she's like, oh, you know, and we move on. 778 00:35:26.800 --> 00:35:30.400 But yeah, at that time, you know, sixties, women still 779 00:35:30.519 --> 00:35:33.559 kind of were only seen as doing certain things, capable 780 00:35:33.599 --> 00:35:37.159 of only certain things, right, Yeah. And also it's just 781 00:35:37.239 --> 00:35:41.239 great how she how Vanessa Redgrave just naturally is, and 782 00:35:41.320 --> 00:35:45.079 how she's directed. She's so still, so calm, and of 783 00:35:45.079 --> 00:35:49.559 course that kind of makes Susannah even more like tightly wound, 784 00:35:49.760 --> 00:35:52.639 you know, and like, am I crazy? Am I saying? 785 00:35:52.679 --> 00:35:52.880 You know? 786 00:35:53.039 --> 00:35:55.840 So there there scenes together are fun, but like you said, 787 00:35:55.840 --> 00:35:59.480 there aren't many, but some good tensions, some good opposites, 788 00:36:00.039 --> 00:36:02.360 and like when Ona's freaking out and Vanessa's just there 789 00:36:02.400 --> 00:36:04.199 like well, do you see. 790 00:36:04.039 --> 00:36:05.519 Like later in the movie, towards the end, when she 791 00:36:05.599 --> 00:36:07.480 meets up with her again and she's progressed and gotten 792 00:36:07.519 --> 00:36:11.079 better like that, it's shifted like there wasn't that much 793 00:36:11.159 --> 00:36:13.400 tension between them or they weren't doing that. It's like 794 00:36:13.440 --> 00:36:15.639 the stand offishness they were. She was more receptive of 795 00:36:15.679 --> 00:36:18.039 each other, speaking and talking yep, yep. 796 00:36:18.079 --> 00:36:20.360 And there's such a lightness on them both, you know, 797 00:36:20.440 --> 00:36:23.679 even Vanessa. They're just kind of literally just chatting and 798 00:36:24.199 --> 00:36:26.480 kind of smiling. Their eyes are a little brighter, right, 799 00:36:26.559 --> 00:36:28.800 it's not so combative. Yeah, it's nice for sure. 800 00:36:29.000 --> 00:36:32.199 Is there something about sex lifts your feelings of despair? 801 00:36:32.440 --> 00:36:36.039 Have you ever had sex? And yeah, Jared Letto, I 802 00:36:36.119 -->

00:36:38.519 know he's it's you know, there are rumors about him. 803 00:36:38.519 --> 00:36:40.840 He's kind of problematic, I guess now, you know, there's 804 00:36:40.880 --> 00:36:44.039 there's some stories. But yeah, wow, I just have to say, like, 805 00:36:44.480 --> 00:36:46.119 oh my god. Every time I see him in these 806 00:36:46.119 --> 00:36:48.480 old movies, I mean, he still looks good, but especially 807 00:36:48.559 --> 00:36:50.760 at this era, I'm like, God, what a babe. I 808 00:36:50.760 --> 00:36:54.079 Mean he doesn't have much to do either, but his scenes, man, 809 00:36:54.199 --> 00:36:56.880 he just he just grabs my attention, you know. 810 00:36:57.719 --> 00:37:00.440 Very very cute, very cute beard. 811 00:37:01.159 --> 00:37:03.960 Yes, those beautiful eyes that and like, oh my god, 812 00:37:04.000 --> 00:37:06.559 I think you know at this time, I was not 813 00:37:06.679 --> 00:37:09.119 yet thirteen. How old were you at this time. 814 00:37:09.400 --> 00:37:11.239 In ninety nine eighteen? 815 00:37:12.039 --> 00:37:14.320 You were eighteen? Wow, oh my god, what a time. 816 00:37:14.440 --> 00:37:16.920 That must have been so cool. So yeah, like I 817 00:37:17.440 --> 00:37:20.719 you know, wasn't out definitely at that age, but like 818 00:37:20.760 --> 00:37:23.360 seeing Jared leto and like Winona like kind of getting 819 00:37:23.360 --> 00:37:25.639 it on a little bit in her bed and like shirt, 820 00:37:25.679 --> 00:37:27.719 so I was just like, wow, I remember like. 821 00:37:28.199 --> 00:37:30.639 Like Whoopy walks in, Yes, I thought she was gonna 822 00:37:30.679 --> 00:37:32.719 kick him out, but she's just like you have crowns, 823 00:37:32.719 --> 00:37:33.639 people just go for a walk. 824 00:37:34.079 --> 00:37:36.480 Yes, I love that. I love that. And again that's 825 00:37:36.480 --> 00:37:39.400 why we love Whoopy. What is Whoopy's name in this movie? 826 00:37:39.400 --> 00:37:43.599 Why do I not remember it? Her character's name? Oh Valerie. 827 00:37:43.639 --> 00:37:47.199 It's Valerie. Yep, love it. Yeah, Valerie, You're sorry because 828 00:37:47.199 --> 00:37:48.960 we think because we've seen her get mad. You know, 829 00:37:49.039 --> 00:37:53.320 she's she swings that door open, I think to yell 830 00:37:53.360 --> 00:37:56.719 at Susannah at one point when they like drug one 831 00:37:56.760 --> 00:37:59.519 of the nurses. I'm pretty sure yeah, because when Nona's 832 00:37:59.679 --> 00:38:02.280 that's that's one of my favorite scenes when they're singing Downtown, 833 00:38:02.880 --> 00:38:07.719 right and and Winona, Susannah makes out with the night nurse, 834 00:38:07.760 --> 00:38:09.000 the guy right. 835 00:38:09.239 --> 00:38:12.519 And he was so cute. He was so cute, so sweet. 836 00:38:13.559 --> 00:38:15.360 He had a crush on her. And also like, you 837 00:38:15.400 --> 00:38:19.079 know what's really sweet also is they're like two lonely people. 838 00:38:19.119 --> 00:38:21.199 I got the vibe that he also was kind of lonely, 839 00:38:21.320 --> 00:38:23.960 you know. So it's so sweet. And then they fall 840 00:38:23.960 --> 00:38:26.679 asleep like in the hallway. And then when Valerie walks 841 00:38:26.679 --> 00:38:30.159 in and again like whoopee is just such a great performer. 842 00:38:30.239 --> 00:38:32.800 Her eyes, right, she just looks at them, and that's 843 00:38:32.800 --> 00:38:35.239 when we see Susannah like wake up and run to 844 00:38:35.280 --> 00:38:38.119 her room. And then Valerie's swinging that door open. I'm 845 00:38:38.119 --> 00:38:39.719 writing you up, I'm sick of this shit, you know. 846 00:38:39.760 --> 00:38:42.960 So we've seen her get angry, you know. But yeah, 847 00:38:43.000 --> 00:38:45.679 I love seeing Jared Letton and she's like, oh, take 848 00:38:45.679 --> 00:38:48.880 a walk, right, And also that's that was aweso. I 849 00:38:48.920 --> 00:38:51.000 just think the script is pretty great because they're able 850 00:38:51.039 --> 00:38:55.480 to inject issues of the time without it distracting from 851 00:38:55.880 --> 00:38:59.519 Susannah's main story and main day to day right, because 852 00:38:59.519 --> 00:39:01.960 then Jared leto I forget his name. 853 00:39:01.880 --> 00:39:03.280 Toby I think Tobias. 854 00:39:03.960 --> 00:39:07.559 Tobias, Yeah, he just got drafted and he's trying to flee, 855 00:39:07.639 --> 00:39:09.719 and he wants to flee with her, you know, and 856 00:39:10.119 --> 00:39:12.400 go to Canada, and she actually says, no, I have 857 00:39:12.480 --> 00:39:16.039 friends here, and he's like, are you actually crazy? Right? 858 00:39:16.639 --> 00:39:20.039 And yeah, I was watching that scene and he was like, 859 00:39:20.119 --> 00:39:21.519 I'm going to get you out of here. Let's us go, 860 00:39:21.760 --> 00:39:24.360 and she notes her friends. He speaks down to her 861 00:39:24.400 --> 00:39:26.440 about that. But I think that was the turning point 862 00:39:26.719 --> 00:39:29.599 where she acknowledges that she actually has problems that she 863 00:39:29.679 --> 00:39:32.280 needs to work on and that's why she chooses to stay. Yeah, 864 00:39:32.320 --> 00:39:34.039 that's where I think the turning point kind of is 865 00:39:34.079 --> 00:39:37.400 she's just like, wait a minute, I'm not I'm well, 866 00:39:37.719 --> 00:39:38.280 I need help. 867 00:39:39.239 --> 00:39:41.920 I love that well said. Yeah, that's a turning point 868 00:39:41.960 --> 00:39:44.599 for her where she's actually showing maturity because she could 869 00:39:44.639 --> 00:39:47.679 have totally run off with him, but she's starting to 870 00:39:47.719 --> 00:39:50.840 realize maybe she is hearing what the doctors are saying. 871 00:39:50.880 --> 00:39:52.760 She's like, wait, I think actually I do need to 872 00:39:52.760 --> 00:39:55.159 stay because I do have to sort things out, because 873 00:39:55.199 --> 00:39:57.320 you know, she ain't sorting

anything out with him on 874 00:39:57.360 --> 00:39:57.719 the road. 875 00:39:57.920 --> 00:40:02.559 No way, right, No, it's no way. Sound mental health stuff. 876 00:40:02.559 --> 00:40:06.519 She started other things. Yeah, yeah, I forgot to mention 877 00:40:06.599 --> 00:40:08.480 that a line early on in the movie when she's 878 00:40:08.519 --> 00:40:10.760 speaking or when the writer's doing like the overvoice, and 879 00:40:10.800 --> 00:40:13.360 she says, like a lion, similar to like those who 880 00:40:13.400 --> 00:40:16.480 steal when they have the money. And when she said that, 881 00:40:16.559 --> 00:40:18.719 I was like, two years later in real time, she 882 00:40:18.719 --> 00:40:23.519 gets caught for ceiling. That was a whole two years later. Wow. Wow, 883 00:40:23.960 --> 00:40:26.000 I heard that. I was like, wait a minute, okay. 884 00:40:25.679 --> 00:40:29.960 For good thinking, good catch. I missed that one. Wow. Yeah, 885 00:40:30.000 --> 00:40:33.280 I know that. And that then started her pretty long, 886 00:40:33.480 --> 00:40:35.920 you know, strange kind of stretch in her career. But 887 00:40:35.920 --> 00:40:37.159 thank god we got her back. 888 00:40:37.039 --> 00:40:38.960 Right and she says she's back on her feet. 889 00:40:38.960 --> 00:40:41.000 She got totally back on her feet, and she's she's 890 00:40:41.159 --> 00:40:44.039 doing great things, of course, But yeah, I forgot that 891 00:40:44.119 --> 00:40:47.599 was only two years after this. Man, it really, I mean, 892 00:40:47.639 --> 00:40:49.880 it makes total sense. She was one of the busiest 893 00:40:50.000 --> 00:40:52.960 actors for the longest time, I mean, all throughout the nineties. 894 00:40:53.119 --> 00:40:54.920 And the thing was, I've been reading about that she 895 00:40:55.079 --> 00:40:58.400 was prescribed medication by a doctor who shouldn't have prescribed 896 00:40:58.400 --> 00:41:01.280 her medication, so that was kind of like impacted. And 897 00:41:01.320 --> 00:41:03.000 she's also was going through things too. And I think 898 00:41:03.519 --> 00:41:05.760 when she did all the community service and she paid 899 00:41:05.800 --> 00:41:08.519 back the fees, I think they reduced the you know, 900 00:41:08.599 --> 00:41:11.760 the charge to misdemeanor from felany to misdemeanor because I 901 00:41:11.760 --> 00:41:13.559 also acknowledged that the medication she was on at the 902 00:41:13.559 --> 00:41:15.199 time shouldn't have prescribed herself. 903 00:41:15.320 --> 00:41:15.719 Wow. 904 00:41:16.239 --> 00:41:16.960 Oh god. 905 00:41:17.360 --> 00:41:20.760 Well, honestly, thank god she survived because we you know, 906 00:41:20.760 --> 00:41:23.760 we hear these stories of celebrities getting their meds from 907 00:41:23.800 --> 00:41:25.880 people that shouldn't be giving them or whatever, and then 908 00:41:26.159 --> 00:41:28.119 drugs and all of a sudden, then some of them 909 00:41:28.360 --> 00:41:31.920 I don't wake up right exactly. Wow, Yeah, so interesting, 910 00:41:32.199 --> 00:41:35.159 a real life girl interrupted situation for her. But yeah, 911 00:41:35.199 --> 00:41:37.159 she's our girl. Love her so much. She's so good 912 00:41:37.159 --> 00:41:39.320 in this movie. I know Angelina got like all the 913 00:41:39.360 --> 00:41:42.440 attention rightfully, so, but I think Wenona's great. 914 00:41:42.599 --> 00:41:46.360 I think she amazing, right, But she was just like 915 00:41:46.400 --> 00:41:48.599 her she emotions on her face, you know, you like 916 00:41:49.199 --> 00:41:53.199 I was invested in her, you know, shows up like 917 00:41:53.280 --> 00:41:56.000 when the first scene, when I remember we're watching, I 918 00:41:56.039 --> 00:41:59.159 was like, she's going to steal every single scene she's 919 00:41:59.199 --> 00:42:00.599 in because she's just so good. 920 00:42:00.920 --> 00:42:01.280 Yeah. 921 00:42:01.440 --> 00:42:03.840 Yeah, And that's the thing. She's not like it's not 922 00:42:03.920 --> 00:42:05.960 like when an actor is just chewing the scenery and 923 00:42:06.079 --> 00:42:09.280 just taking up so much space. No, like she she's 924 00:42:09.360 --> 00:42:12.320 just so committed in the role. And I think also 925 00:42:12.400 --> 00:42:15.239 Angelina at that time and maybe even still now is 926 00:42:15.280 --> 00:42:18.360 probably intimidating. I know you probably saw a couple. I 927 00:42:18.360 --> 00:42:20.800 think it was earlier this but like last year, Elizabeth 928 00:42:20.840 --> 00:42:23.960 Moss was on Kelly Rippa's podcast and did say, like, 929 00:42:24.079 --> 00:42:28.400 because of the on screen character drama there really kind 930 00:42:28.440 --> 00:42:31.360 of was like, you know, on set like you were 931 00:42:31.400 --> 00:42:34.159 either team Angelina or team Winona. Like they did not 932 00:42:34.400 --> 00:42:36.440 really get along that well. They were not really friends, 933 00:42:36.440 --> 00:42:39.920 which is a bummer because I guess Winona really thought like, yeah, 934 00:42:39.920 --> 00:42:43.559 we're gonna be great friends. But Angelina was so super committed. 935 00:42:43.599 --> 00:42:47.800 Maybe a little method being in Lisa's shoes that like, no, 936 00:42:47.960 --> 00:42:50.320 when the cameras weren't rolling, like, they did not speak, 937 00:42:50.320 --> 00:42:53.440 which is a bummer, but obviously it worked, you know, 938 00:42:53.880 --> 00:42:55.239 made the movie good. Right. 939 00:42:55.840 --> 00:42:59.119 Maybe maybe she just wanted to focus focus on the 940 00:42:59.159 --> 00:43:01.079 role itself and not like distracted, and I mean she 941 00:43:01.119 --> 00:43:04.559 needed to have that bearer between them. But then impact 942 00:43:04.639 --> 00:43:06.400 things too, you know, especially when you're like trying to 943 00:43:06.599 --> 00:43:08.760 work with somebody and you're thinking, like, we're just going 944 00:43:08.800 --> 00:43:10.039 to get

your job, like, oh, when I'm trying to 945 00:43:10.079 --> 00:43:12.239 make friends here, you know, yea friendly and then it 946 00:43:12.239 --> 00:43:13.840 doesn't happen, bummed out. 947 00:43:13.760 --> 00:43:16.159 Like yeah, oh totally, you're like, all right, well, definitely 948 00:43:16.280 --> 00:43:18.280 not gonna be friends with her, Okay, got it. Who 949 00:43:18.320 --> 00:43:19.679 I'm gonna hang out with? Who I'm gonna have lunch 950 00:43:19.719 --> 00:43:20.119 with today? 951 00:43:20.239 --> 00:43:20.440 Right? 952 00:43:20.840 --> 00:43:24.280 Yeah, but obviously it worked because yeah, you're sorry. Just 953 00:43:24.320 --> 00:43:28.800 the way Angelina moves and her looks like she's so 954 00:43:29.280 --> 00:43:33.960 she's intimidating, Like for half the movie, I'm like, oh god, 955 00:43:34.000 --> 00:43:36.559 she makes me nervous. And Winona therefore is also so 956 00:43:36.679 --> 00:43:39.800 good because she is us squirming and like kind of 957 00:43:39.800 --> 00:43:41.320 looking at it like, you know, doesn't want to make 958 00:43:41.360 --> 00:43:44.519 it too obvious that she's nervous. Right, Their tension is 959 00:43:44.559 --> 00:43:47.880 so good, and then when they become tight, it's actually 960 00:43:48.000 --> 00:43:50.519 like so much fun. Like the movie, even though it 961 00:43:50.519 --> 00:43:54.480 gets very dark and there's dark moments throughout. I kind 962 00:43:54.519 --> 00:43:57.800 of have my memories at first are, oh my god, 963 00:43:57.840 --> 00:43:59.800 that's such a fun movie, which is kind of twisted 964 00:44:00.679 --> 00:44:02.960 because they're such a fun team. When things are going well, 965 00:44:03.320 --> 00:44:06.440 you know, hey, rewinders. I'm pausing my chat with Rudy 966 00:44:06.559 --> 00:44:09.199 just for a second to introduce another friend of mine 967 00:44:09.239 --> 00:44:13.719 who also loves Girl Interrupted. Here's artist and movie fan 968 00:44:14.039 --> 00:44:16.239 totor Iliev with his thoughts. 969 00:44:16.599 --> 00:44:19.440 Hey, guys, this is total from Sophia Bulgaria better known 970 00:44:19.519 --> 00:44:23.639 as Ilia f illustration on Instagram and Blue Sky. I'm 971 00:44:23.920 --> 00:44:29.280 beyond excited to talk about Girl Interrupted. Back in nineteen 972 00:44:29.360 --> 00:44:31.320 ninety nine, when I first saw the movie, I was 973 00:44:31.440 --> 00:44:33.880 thirteen years old. I think I've seen it a couple 974 00:44:33.960 --> 00:44:37.599 of times afterwards, haven't seen it for at least fifteen years, 975 00:44:37.679 --> 00:44:43.199 though I remember. The story was heavy, interesting, thought provoking. 976 00:44:44.039 --> 00:44:48.320 The cast is beyond amazing. Angelina Jolie win on a Rider, 977 00:44:48.679 --> 00:44:54.920 Claire Juval, Britney Murphy. That's more than enough for anyone 978 00:44:55.039 --> 00:44:59.719 to give this movie a rewatch or just see it 979 00:44:59.800 --> 00:45:02.800 for the first time. If you like the One Flew 980 00:45:02.840 --> 00:45:05.719 Over the Coopoo's Nest, either the book or the movie, 981 00:45:06.159 --> 00:45:08.440 there's a pretty good chance you enjoyed this one as well. 982 00:45:08.480 --> 00:45:11.280 There's lots of parallels to be found. The subject matter 983 00:45:11.400 --> 00:45:15.760 is it's not an easy one. It's about mental health, 984 00:45:16.000 --> 00:45:21.880 it's about female relationships, It's about Angelina and Julie, her performance, 985 00:45:22.119 --> 00:45:25.360 her hair, it kind of reminds me of Gil Weathers 986 00:45:25.360 --> 00:45:28.480 from Scream three. But I think it was that time 987 00:45:28.559 --> 00:45:32.239 when this fringe was kind of popular. And yeah, thanks 988 00:45:32.239 --> 00:45:38.599 for reminding me about that movie. 989 00:45:39.079 --> 00:45:43.000 Well, I think you know, listen how much Flip Cream 990 00:45:43.199 --> 00:45:52.039 Cherry and I love the ice cream parlor scene so much. 991 00:45:52.119 --> 00:45:55.320 That's right when Value takes the girls out, and like 992 00:45:55.519 --> 00:45:58.360 Lisa's flirting with the ice cream guy and you know 993 00:45:58.639 --> 00:46:02.079 the one the one patient is saying like pemmermint dick 994 00:46:02.280 --> 00:46:06.199 and stuff, you know, and then Susannah sees the wife 995 00:46:06.320 --> 00:46:09.480 of the professor or the teacher. I guess you know 996 00:46:10.039 --> 00:46:13.079 that I completely forgot about that whole well one of 997 00:46:13.119 --> 00:46:13.719 the subplot. 998 00:46:14.079 --> 00:46:16.400 Yeah, because he's when she goes to the again early movie, 999 00:46:16.480 --> 00:46:18.480 the party that she gets to she's late to, and 1000 00:46:18.519 --> 00:46:20.199 then and you see him. As soon as she looked 1001 00:46:20.199 --> 00:46:21.320 at him, I was like, oh no, this. 1002 00:46:22.800 --> 00:46:25.320 Happened. And then he seemed trying to create connect with 1003 00:46:25.360 --> 00:46:25.679 her and she. 1004 00:46:27.119 --> 00:46:30.320 I know, I know, but you know, and again I 1005 00:46:30.320 --> 00:46:32.800 think I know this movie you know, isn't perfect, and 1006 00:46:32.880 --> 00:46:35.119 some critics didn't like it, but like, I don't know, 1007 00:46:35.159 --> 00:46:37.360 the second she looks at that teacher at the party, 1008 00:46:37.440 --> 00:46:41.159 and like just the way they're directed, Like immediately I'm like, oh, 1009 00:46:41.199 --> 00:46:43.639 like you just feel the electricity. And then yeah, he's 1010 00:46:43.679 --> 00:46:46.480 there at her door and she's saying no, like you know, 1011 00:46:46.800 --> 00:46:51.679 what are you doing? Yeah? Really great flashbacks to what 1012 00:46:51.800 --> 00:46:55.840 went on. And then now here is his wife and 1013 00:46:55.880 --> 00:46:58.639 we assume I guess daughter, right, Katie Stricken, who then 1014 00:46:59.440 --> 00:46:59.599 was like. 1015 00:46:59.599 --> 00:47:01.639

A like a friend from school that she had talked 1016 00:47:01.679 --> 00:47:02.039 about them. 1017 00:47:02.159 --> 00:47:06.119 Oh yeah that's right, yes, yeah, same age. Yeah. Oh 1018 00:47:06.119 --> 00:47:08.480 my gosh. But I just love that scene because that 1019 00:47:08.519 --> 00:47:11.840 woman I forget her character's name, but and now I'm 1020 00:47:11.880 --> 00:47:14.639 forgetting her her the actor's name. But she's great. She's 1021 00:47:14.679 --> 00:47:17.599 done so much Mary kay Place. I think she's just so. 1022 00:47:17.800 --> 00:47:20.719 She's looking at Winona and she is just so upset, 1023 00:47:20.760 --> 00:47:23.239 comes over to the table, and I just love how 1024 00:47:23.440 --> 00:47:27.280 all these crazy girls just start going off, you know. 1025 00:47:27.320 --> 00:47:30.960 I think Angela Bettis is barking, and I think Daisy 1026 00:47:31.199 --> 00:47:34.599 Brittany Murphy doesn't. She's like, get the thing out of 1027 00:47:34.639 --> 00:47:36.760 my face or whatever. Right, It's just I love when 1028 00:47:36.760 --> 00:47:38.840 they just get unhinged and scare them away, I think. 1029 00:47:38.760 --> 00:47:41.079 And they back her up, you know, I guess they're 1030 00:47:41.119 --> 00:47:44.159 all together because she's they see her being attacked, attacked 1031 00:47:44.159 --> 00:47:46.719 by this woman, you know, and she's kind of cowering, 1032 00:47:46.760 --> 00:47:48.079 and the rest of them kind of like join up 1033 00:47:48.119 --> 00:47:49.039 and you know, help her out. 1034 00:47:49.400 --> 00:47:53.239 To you, they're helping her kind of you know, see 1035 00:47:53.239 --> 00:47:55.239 what it's like to have a voice, you know, something 1036 00:47:55.440 --> 00:47:57.679 she you know, was lost and doesn't really know how 1037 00:47:57.679 --> 00:48:00.800 to like properly get her thoughts out, you communicate. So 1038 00:48:00.840 --> 00:48:03.639 now here she is seeing a very extreme version. But yeah, 1039 00:48:03.639 --> 00:48:05.280 she's got back up, which is so fun. 1040 00:48:06.400 --> 00:48:09.079 When she when they get there, she sees them, she's 1041 00:48:09.199 --> 00:48:11.559 hiding behind Angelia. She's like she's embarrassed, you know, she's 1042 00:48:11.760 --> 00:48:14.000 cowing away. So then when you know, when then they 1043 00:48:14.039 --> 00:48:16.800 spot her, so she like realizes that these are her friends, 1044 00:48:16.840 --> 00:48:17.639 they're helping her out. 1045 00:48:17.760 --> 00:48:19.480 Then she kind of like stands up a little bit 1046 00:48:19.480 --> 00:48:22.440 more straight, you know. And yes, I appreciated what they 1047 00:48:22.480 --> 00:48:22.920 did for her. 1048 00:48:23.199 --> 00:48:25.559 Oh Also, I just have to say, this rewatch was 1049 00:48:25.559 --> 00:48:27.480 the first time I've seen it in a long time. 1050 00:48:27.800 --> 00:48:29.559 So I realized I don't think I ever knew what 1051 00:48:29.559 --> 00:48:34.000 a rim

job was. Because when Lisa says to the wife, like, okay, 1052 00:48:34.000 --> 00:48:35.960 she gave him a rim job, so what I'm like, 1053 00:48:36.280 --> 00:48:39.639 oh wait, what what? I was like, Oh that went 1054 00:48:39.679 --> 00:48:41.000 over my head back in the day. 1055 00:48:40.960 --> 00:48:44.039 I didn't my time. Yes, And now I'm like, did 1056 00:48:44.039 --> 00:48:45.320 she mean it? Did she really do that? 1057 00:48:45.559 --> 00:48:47.400 I know, I know that's the thing with Lisa, you 1058 00:48:47.480 --> 00:48:50.000 never know. So I'm like, wait, is that like a 1059 00:48:50.159 --> 00:48:52.000 sick joke for Lisa say. 1060 00:48:52.159 --> 00:48:54.159 She didn't like question or she didn't challenge and be like, hey, 1061 00:48:54.159 --> 00:48:56.159 I didn't do that. I did this, but oh I 1062 00:48:55.920 --> 00:48:57.840 know out there ether so. 1063 00:48:58.000 --> 00:49:00.800 I know you're right. Susannah wasn't like what are you saying? 1064 00:49:00.840 --> 00:49:03.760 She was just like, right, so what is that? No? 1065 00:49:04.079 --> 00:49:07.960 She knew it was apparently whoa teacher student doing some 1066 00:49:07.960 --> 00:49:13.000 some stuff together. I was like, oh, I guess, yes, 1067 00:49:13.800 --> 00:49:17.639 A plus yes, so just I know. I mean, geez, 1068 00:49:17.719 --> 00:49:20.400 that's commitment. So yeah, there you go girl. So I 1069 00:49:20.440 --> 00:49:23.079 just had to mention that because whoa. My younger brain 1070 00:49:23.559 --> 00:49:27.119 never heard that ever, And when I paused it, rewound 1071 00:49:27.199 --> 00:49:29.920 it and wrote it down like, okay, star rim job, 1072 00:49:30.000 --> 00:49:35.000 mu's talk about that. But but no. What's also so 1073 00:49:35.159 --> 00:49:39.039 interesting about that scene is right after that the fun part. 1074 00:49:39.159 --> 00:49:42.519 Then it's like because then Valerie is so pissed at 1075 00:49:42.519 --> 00:49:46.320 their behavior and she focuses that on Lisa. So it's 1076 00:49:46.400 --> 00:49:49.920 kind of like showing how even though Lisa was supporting 1077 00:49:50.039 --> 00:49:54.159 her new friend, she's constantly the bad girl, you know. 1078 00:49:54.320 --> 00:49:56.239 And she even kind of says that later on, you know, 1079 00:49:56.280 --> 00:49:58.280 that great line she says, I'm playing the villain just 1080 00:49:58.320 --> 00:49:59.800 like you want a baby or something like that, and 1081 00:49:59.840 --> 00:50:03.920 the tunnels right to Susannah. So like, poor Lisa, even 1082 00:50:03.960 --> 00:50:07.000 when she has great intentions and she's being super supportive, 1083 00:50:07.039 --> 00:50:11.239 actually yeah, it's it's not working out, and it's thrown 1084 00:50:11.280 --> 00:50:14.000 back in her face and she's chastised, and I really 1085 00:50:14.000 --> 00:50:15.039 feel for her, you know. 1086 00:50:15.480 --> 00:50:17.360 But I think that she knew that she would get 1087 00:50:17.360

--> 00:50:21.000 in trouble. Yeah, and she I think she maybe maybe 1088 00:50:21.000 --> 00:50:24.360 stepped in and did that so so wonder I didn't 1089 00:50:24.400 --> 00:50:25.400 have to do it to get in trouble. 1090 00:50:25.440 --> 00:50:27.440 So she knew that get in trouble all the time. 1091 00:50:28.039 --> 00:50:28.880 I playing the villain. 1092 00:50:29.039 --> 00:50:31.599 So if I step up and get have their ramifications 1093 00:50:31.599 --> 00:50:33.440 for it, it doesn't matter anymore to me at least, 1094 00:50:33.440 --> 00:50:34.039 So good point. 1095 00:50:34.079 --> 00:50:35.639 I think I think that's why she kind of did it. 1096 00:50:36.079 --> 00:50:38.760 Yeah, good point. Yeah, it's sort of like an acceptance 1097 00:50:38.800 --> 00:50:41.519 of like, this is it for me? You know, which 1098 00:50:41.559 --> 00:50:45.199 is a bummer. It's sad for sure, you know, but 1099 00:50:45.199 --> 00:50:48.840 but then great tension. But yeah, I mean another very 1100 00:50:48.880 --> 00:50:51.480 memorable scene. I know we're going to get dark here, 1101 00:50:51.519 --> 00:50:55.679 but when when the girls do somewhat very easily, it 1102 00:50:55.760 --> 00:50:59.079 seems escape the hospital, I guess through the tunnels, the 1103 00:50:59.360 --> 00:51:01.679 you know, the undergrad on hallways. They're just like running 1104 00:51:01.679 --> 00:51:04.679 out at night, and they hitchhiked their way to Daisy's 1105 00:51:04.719 --> 00:51:08.280 house because Daisy got out, Right, we've already seen all 1106 00:51:08.280 --> 00:51:11.159 the chickens under the bed. What were you thinking with 1107 00:51:11.199 --> 00:51:14.039 all these old, smelly chickens under Daisy's bed? 1108 00:51:14.320 --> 00:51:14.519 You know? 1109 00:51:14.639 --> 00:51:16.960 I was confused, and so when I at the time 1110 00:51:17.079 --> 00:51:18.960 and then was what we watched it watching Okay, but 1111 00:51:19.199 --> 00:51:21.159 we're gonna explain this better to me, I understand it more. 1112 00:51:21.440 --> 00:51:24.840 But it just felt like I'm like I thought, I thought. 1113 00:51:24.639 --> 00:51:26.480 Maybe she was billamic or had it at eating and 1114 00:51:26.559 --> 00:51:29.280 eating problem, that's why she was maybe eating and perjury. 1115 00:51:29.360 --> 00:51:32.360 But she was just eating them and not throwing them out. Yeah, yeah, 1116 00:51:33.039 --> 00:51:34.719 so I didn't understand. I think it was just like 1117 00:51:34.719 --> 00:51:35.880 she just didn't want to get rid of them. And 1118 00:51:35.880 --> 00:51:38.159 then she said that line like she has to keep 1119 00:51:38.199 --> 00:51:39.480 five and then I have to throw them out. 1120 00:51:39.679 --> 00:51:43.280 Yes, well, yes, that line. It's hard because like maybe it. 1121 00:51:43.159 --> 00:51:46.800 Was just just to have from her father. Maybe it 1122 00:51:46.840 --> 00:51:48.320 was just a way of a tie to him and 1123 00:51:48.360 --> 00:51:50.440

she just didn't want to like abandon it or give 1124 00:51:50.480 --> 00:51:50.800 it away. 1125 00:51:50.800 --> 00:51:53.639 But definitely kind of just very weird. 1126 00:51:54.000 --> 00:51:56.000 Yeah, very weird. And you you bring up a great 1127 00:51:56.000 --> 00:51:57.679 point because I was the same way for a while. 1128 00:51:57.719 --> 00:51:59.599 I thought like, oh, yeah, she's got an eating disorder. 1129 00:52:00.079 --> 00:52:02.199 And maybe she does, because you know she only she 1130 00:52:02.280 --> 00:52:04.599 says something in that same scene, you know, before she 1131 00:52:04.679 --> 00:52:07.039 says like once I get five value makes me throw 1132 00:52:07.039 --> 00:52:10.639 them away. Before that, she says something along the lines 1133 00:52:10.679 --> 00:52:13.840 of like listen, like you guys like to like shit 1134 00:52:13.960 --> 00:52:16.599 in private, and like, you know, I like to eat 1135 00:52:16.599 --> 00:52:19.440 in private. I like to be private, like with the 1136 00:52:19.480 --> 00:52:22.159 food going in rather than going out, So like when 1137 00:52:22.159 --> 00:52:24.760 you're all at the cafeteria, I want to eat privately. 1138 00:52:25.000 --> 00:52:27.039 So that is, in a way, I guess a bit 1139 00:52:27.079 --> 00:52:29.199 of an eating disorder. But you're right, we don't actually 1140 00:52:29.199 --> 00:52:33.760 have proof that she is bulliemic or something. It's just 1141 00:52:33.840 --> 00:52:37.199 more of like food hoarding. It's like holding onto yeah, 1142 00:52:37.280 --> 00:52:41.679 like what daddy gave you, like these prized chickens for 1143 00:52:41.760 --> 00:52:44.559 his daughter, so she's it's almost more going back to 1144 00:52:45.159 --> 00:52:49.199 the very strange, inappropriate relationship she has with dad rather 1145 00:52:49.280 --> 00:52:52.480 than with food itself, if that makes sense. 1146 00:52:52.559 --> 00:52:52.679 Right. 1147 00:52:53.280 --> 00:52:56.719 It's a gift from her dad and a gift, right, 1148 00:52:57.239 --> 00:53:00.559 it's leftover chickens under her bed, and it's funny. 1149 00:53:00.599 --> 00:53:03.079 I had completely forgotten and then she does it. I 1150 00:53:03.119 --> 00:53:07.639 think maybe twice. She says I'm gonna you know, I'm 1151 00:53:07.639 --> 00:53:09.800 getting out soon and my dad's getting me an apartment 1152 00:53:09.840 --> 00:53:12.920 with an Eden chicken. And I think Susanna even says, 1153 00:53:12.920 --> 00:53:16.159 I think you mean eating kitchen, right, and I had 1154 00:53:16.199 --> 00:53:18.280 never caught that before. I think it happens twice. But 1155 00:53:18.360 --> 00:53:20.559 I just love how Brittany Murphy. I love how she 1156 00:53:20.599 --> 00:53:24.760 delivers this. But Daisy loves saying asshole. That's what I said, asshole. 1157 00:53:25.199 --> 00:53:29.760 You know, like it's so sassy. It's like, calm down, okay, right, 1158 00:53:30.119 --> 00:53:31.599 She's so angry. 1159 00:53:31.719 --> 00:53:37.280 She was very fun she flip being angry. 1160 00:53:37.480 --> 00:53:39.119 Oh yeah, and you know I was reading and maybe 1161 00:53:39.119 --> 00:53:42.280 you saw this too. I saw, okay, a couple casting things. 1162 00:53:42.400 --> 00:53:47.159 Since this cast is so good Lee, Sobieski, apparently you 1163 00:53:47.239 --> 00:53:49.079 never know I read this on the internet. So who knows, 1164 00:53:49.079 --> 00:53:52.400 but leely Sobieski signed on to play Daisy but dropped 1165 00:53:52.400 --> 00:53:55.800 out just weeks before filming because she was doing Joan 1166 00:53:55.800 --> 00:53:57.519 of Arc, which I think was a TV movie if 1167 00:53:57.519 --> 00:54:00.280 I remember correctly. But so, okay, Daisy was going to 1168 00:54:00.320 --> 00:54:02.920 be very different. I cannot imagine anyone but Brittany Murphy 1169 00:54:02.920 --> 00:54:06.800 playing that role. You know that, Yeah, that I feel 1170 00:54:06.800 --> 00:54:10.000 like would be a very different Sassy because Brittany just 1171 00:54:10.079 --> 00:54:13.360 has that kind of like her eyes twitch a little bit, 1172 00:54:13.440 --> 00:54:17.639 like she just looks so pent up and leally, especially 1173 00:54:17.639 --> 00:54:21.079 at this time, just seems so kind of cool, like 1174 00:54:21.239 --> 00:54:25.719 more more a quieter rage. So I can't really picture that. 1175 00:54:26.079 --> 00:54:29.760 Parker Posey turned down the role of Lisa crazy. I 1176 00:54:30.760 --> 00:54:33.559 I couldn't see Parker Posey being in this movie, although 1177 00:54:33.840 --> 00:54:35.920 I feel like she'd be a little bit older than everyone, 1178 00:54:35.960 --> 00:54:37.440 but maybe not right. 1179 00:54:37.719 --> 00:54:38.280 I thought you said that. 1180 00:54:38.280 --> 00:54:39.559 I thought maybe she was going to be like a. 1181 00:54:41.920 --> 00:54:44.960 Like Valerie or something, you know, like the nurse who 1182 00:54:45.320 --> 00:54:49.480 checks and the pills. Yes, but like, yeah, I just 1183 00:54:49.519 --> 00:54:51.840 love that one nurse who said Susanna ca Sin. She 1184 00:54:51.880 --> 00:54:53.679 has like an accent. I think she's like Irish or 1185 00:54:53.679 --> 00:54:56.000 something like that always is in my in my head 1186 00:54:56.320 --> 00:54:58.880 when they do that the pills. But yes, so Parker 1187 00:54:58.920 --> 00:55:01.880 Posey was going to be in it, so bisky. James 1188 00:55:01.920 --> 00:55:04.960 Mangold also met with Courtney Love to discuss the role 1189 00:55:04.960 --> 00:55:08.599 of Lisa, which makes perfect sense. Totally see that as 1190 00:55:08.639 --> 00:55:12.400 well as Alanis Morissett. She was apparently in the mix 1191 00:55:12.440 --> 00:55:14.920 for a role which would have been very interesting. I 1192 00:55:14.920 --> 00:55:17.239 think it would have been distracting because no one, in 1193 00:55:17.239 --> 00:55:21.119 my opinion, is like distracting. No one's like taking your

1194 00:55:21.159 --> 00:55:24.159 eyes away more than they should. But I feel like 1195 00:55:24.280 --> 00:55:27.119 just knowing, like Alanis Morissett is acting in a movie, 1196 00:55:27.119 --> 00:55:29.320 I think that maybe would have been a little distracting. 1197 00:55:28.960 --> 00:55:31.280 You know, distracting. Corny would have been distracted just because 1198 00:55:31.280 --> 00:55:33.920 like there's this, yeah stars, they're rock stars. 1199 00:55:34.039 --> 00:55:36.519 Yeah, so it's like, you know, we already have Onona, 1200 00:55:36.559 --> 00:55:40.320 who's our star? Angelina was on the Rise? Whoopi's a star, 1201 00:55:40.440 --> 00:55:42.559 you know, But like then if you have like, yeah, 1202 00:55:42.599 --> 00:55:44.440 a rock star in there, it's like whoa, Okay, this 1203 00:55:44.559 --> 00:55:48.119 is you know. But apparently other names, especially at the time, 1204 00:55:48.159 --> 00:55:52.079 makes sense. Reese Witherspoon and Christina Ricci, Katie Holmes, Kate Hudson, 1205 00:55:52.559 --> 00:55:55.960 Rose McGowan, They apparently all auditioned, and I saw online 1206 00:55:56.039 --> 00:55:58.440 Rose McGowan had even said, quote, it's the only decent 1207 00:55:58.440 --> 00:56:00.840 thing out there that doesn't involve taking your clothes off, 1208 00:56:01.599 --> 00:56:02.519 So there you go. 1209 00:56:02.599 --> 00:56:04.480 I believe she would say that, Yeah. 1210 00:56:04.159 --> 00:56:06.400 Right, absolutely, that feels right. Yeah, but so I just 1211 00:56:06.440 --> 00:56:08.599 had to bring that up about Daisy. But so, yeah, 1212 00:56:08.599 --> 00:56:12.320 they they flee the the institution and they're hitchhiking and 1213 00:56:12.320 --> 00:56:14.880 stealing money from guys and all that, and they make 1214 00:56:15.000 --> 00:56:18.159 their way to Daisy's apartment. I forget how they knew 1215 00:56:18.159 --> 00:56:21.400 the address. I guess they got it from the files. 1216 00:56:21.639 --> 00:56:24.880 I think that must have been how because remember they 1217 00:56:24.960 --> 00:56:26.639 like break into their files, which is kind of a 1218 00:56:26.679 --> 00:56:31.639 fun scene. Mal oh maybe it was mail, Yeah, maybe 1219 00:56:31.639 --> 00:56:34.000 something they must have found out some way. But so 1220 00:56:34.039 --> 00:56:38.159 they're there, and that's when the movie starts to become 1221 00:56:39.000 --> 00:56:42.280 kind of horrific. Like you can feel like the lighting 1222 00:56:42.360 --> 00:56:46.159 is different. We're now like not, it's almost it's kind 1223 00:56:46.159 --> 00:56:49.760 of crazy, how like even though the institution is not home, 1224 00:56:50.239 --> 00:56:53.559 the hospital is not a nice place. It's almost kind 1225 00:56:53.559 --> 00:56:55.079 of like I think when we get to Daisy's house, 1226 00:56:55.079 --> 00:56:56.719 I'm like, oh no, no, bring me back to the hospital, 1227 00:56:56.880 --> 00:56:58.559 Like that's the safe place, you know what I mean. 1228 00:56:58.960 --> 00:57:03.679 It's very dark there, like a little an easy feeling, 1229 00:57:05.400 --> 00:57:07.280 just because at this point you kind of know what's 1230 00:57:07.320 --> 00:57:10.039 going on with her home life, with her with her dad. Yes, 1231 00:57:10.239 --> 00:57:13.119 so just going there knowing that this is more. This 1232 00:57:13.239 --> 00:57:17.440 is just another cage for her, you know, hemore. And 1233 00:57:17.480 --> 00:57:20.039 now he's push her in this apartment that she's wanting, 1234 00:57:20.280 --> 00:57:21.800 and she's you know, she's not leaving that place. 1235 00:57:21.800 --> 00:57:22.199 She's staying. 1236 00:57:22.239 --> 00:57:25.880 Oh, you're so right, You're so right. It's another cage 1237 00:57:25.880 --> 00:57:27.679 for her. Yeah, she's not leaving. She might go for 1238 00:57:27.719 --> 00:57:30.639 a walk, but she's no Daddy's gonna pick up and 1239 00:57:30.719 --> 00:57:33.719 drive her anywhere seeds to go. So yeah, there's like 1240 00:57:33.760 --> 00:57:36.639 an immediate darkness. She and Lisa don't get along. Of 1241 00:57:36.679 --> 00:57:39.079 course we had, you know, the whole fighting earlier with 1242 00:57:39.119 --> 00:57:41.599 the valuume and the Teddy Bear and all that stuff 1243 00:57:41.599 --> 00:57:44.920 that she has because she's hooked on valium and oh 1244 00:57:45.119 --> 00:57:48.039 they're fighting. This scene, Oh my god, it's so memorable. 1245 00:57:48.039 --> 00:57:51.119 It's it's awful. And I just remember when Nona telling 1246 00:57:51.159 --> 00:57:54.760 Lisa shut the fuck up, like it's getting so bad, right, 1247 00:57:55.199 --> 00:57:58.079 And this is where Lisa tells us like we kind 1248 00:57:58.079 --> 00:58:02.400 of now have confirmation like yeah, like daddy is doing 1249 00:58:02.440 --> 00:58:04.000 things to you and you like it. 1250 00:58:04.079 --> 00:58:06.800 Oh, it's so oh my god, Rudy, that's super ugh. 1251 00:58:06.920 --> 00:58:09.079 Oh it's hard. It's hard to watch. I mean, yes, 1252 00:58:09.880 --> 00:58:10.159 m m. 1253 00:58:10.360 --> 00:58:13.239 And they're all so good. I mean it's mostly between 1254 00:58:13.559 --> 00:58:16.079 Angelina and Brittany. But the way Brittany is on the 1255 00:58:16.119 --> 00:58:21.280 stairs just feeling like shit, but also so badly trying 1256 00:58:21.320 --> 00:58:26.159 to stay cool and proud. Oh my gosh, it's so bleak. 1257 00:58:26.360 --> 00:58:28.679 Well because she's convinced herself that she's doing well, like 1258 00:58:28.760 --> 00:58:32.280 she's she has she wants, you know, she's just a home. 1259 00:58:32.320 --> 00:58:34.800 They're jealous of her, so she's has been fed this 1260 00:58:34.880 --> 00:58:37.320 and she believes it, you know. And I think that's 1261 00:58:37.360 --> 00:58:39.480 why Angelia is just so upset with her, because she's 1262 00:58:39.559 --> 00:58:41.639 just like, you need we see all we see this 1263 00:58:41.760

--> 00:58:45.000 happening to you and you don't. Her frustration is taken 1264 00:58:45.079 --> 00:58:48.920 out on anger against tor, you know, because she's even 1265 00:58:48.920 --> 00:58:50.880 maybe because she loved claymore. She maybe she felt that 1266 00:58:50.880 --> 00:58:53.119 she was safer there than here, you know, because obviously 1267 00:58:53.119 --> 00:58:54.639 you see that her and being cut up more. 1268 00:58:55.079 --> 00:58:59.639 Right, So yeah, yeah, and you know it's interesting because 1269 00:58:59.639 --> 00:59:01.920 like I'm just thinking now this just popped into my head. 1270 00:59:01.960 --> 00:59:05.519 Like Lisa doesn't like liars, of course. So yeah, like 1271 00:59:05.519 --> 00:59:08.159 you're saying, like, hello, we see this, you don't or 1272 00:59:08.199 --> 00:59:11.360 you just refuse to or you really are thinking that 1273 00:59:11.400 --> 00:59:13.880 we can't see it, you idiot, right, So that's where 1274 00:59:13.920 --> 00:59:17.480 Lisa's coming from. But there's also definitely jealousy because Daisy 1275 00:59:17.519 --> 00:59:22.039 got out and Lisa. I think, whoopee. Valerie tells Susannah 1276 00:59:22.159 --> 00:59:24.559 maybe right after this because they they part ways. This 1277 00:59:24.679 --> 00:59:27.880 is too dark for Susannah to like stay with Lisa, right. 1278 00:59:28.239 --> 00:59:31.320 I think Valerie even says, like Lisa's been here like 1279 00:59:31.440 --> 00:59:34.079 off and on for like eight years. She's not going anywhere, 1280 00:59:34.159 --> 00:59:38.480 you know. So yeah, there's also definitely some resentment coming 1281 00:59:38.519 --> 00:59:42.199 out where Lisa is taking it out on this like TWRP, 1282 00:59:42.400 --> 00:59:46.599 this fool, this idiot. You know, how dare you get 1283 00:59:46.639 --> 00:59:48.519 lucky enough to get out? I need to get out, 1284 00:59:48.599 --> 00:59:55.679 you know. So there there's also that you're just jealous 1285 00:59:55.719 --> 00:59:59.519 Lisa because I got better. 1286 01:00:01.000 --> 01:00:04.639 Because I was released, because. 1287 01:00:04.400 --> 01:00:05.679 I have a chance. 1288 01:00:08.000 --> 01:00:08.880 And of life. 1289 01:00:11.559 --> 01:00:14.960 Didn't at least she because you're better, dazy, They just 1290 01:00:15.000 --> 01:00:18.760 gave up, just the blocking, the staging of like you know, 1291 01:00:19.039 --> 01:00:22.559 Angelina is sitting in the chair like hanging out and 1292 01:00:22.559 --> 01:00:25.599 and up on the stairs is so like even though 1293 01:00:25.840 --> 01:00:29.079 Brittany is like above her, it's like, no, Lisa's got 1294 01:00:29.119 --> 01:00:31.360 all the power from wherever she is. She can be 1295 01:00:31.480 --> 01:00:37.119 lower physically, but she's ruling you. You know, it really 1296 01:00:37.119 --> 01:00:40.679 turns the tides because up until that point, Susannah and 1297 01:00:40.800 --> 01:00:42.880 Lisa have, like we were just saying, have had some 1298 01:00:43.000 --> 01:00:46.920 nice moments. They're very much a unit. And now Susanna's 1299 01:00:46.960 --> 01:00:49.119 like this is going way too far. 1300 01:00:49.199 --> 01:00:52.280 Right, Yeah, when she screams at them to stop by 1301 01:00:52.360 --> 01:00:54.119 and she was like do what we would wanted to do. 1302 01:00:54.159 --> 01:00:56.559 We wanted to stop because we're because like you said, 1303 01:00:56.599 --> 01:00:58.960 this movie has the ties and those with it's not 1304 01:00:59.000 --> 01:01:00.920 that dark to mean, it's like has its moments. You know, 1305 01:01:00.920 --> 01:01:03.960 we're going through this journey with the Ariker's character and 1306 01:01:03.960 --> 01:01:06.119 we're like enjoying it having we're seeing like the rough 1307 01:01:06.119 --> 01:01:06.559 patches she. 1308 01:01:06.559 --> 01:01:08.000 Has along the way. But then we get to this 1309 01:01:08.079 --> 01:01:10.440 scene right and it's super dark. 1310 01:01:11.000 --> 01:01:14.679 It's like uneasy, and having watched it before, I knew 1311 01:01:14.719 --> 01:01:19.000 what was going to happen. Yes, this, all this that's 1312 01:01:19.039 --> 01:01:21.400 happening is going to build up to what's coming next. 1313 01:01:21.480 --> 01:01:24.000 Yeah, yeah, and even as it's even as this fight's 1314 01:01:24.039 --> 01:01:26.880 going on, and like as Brittany as a daisy goes 1315 01:01:26.920 --> 01:01:29.719 to bed, like you know, like if you saw this 1316 01:01:29.760 --> 01:01:31.920 for the first time, you feel it in your gut, 1317 01:01:32.000 --> 01:01:36.639 like ooh, that was a big twist and something bad 1318 01:01:36.719 --> 01:01:38.559 is going to happen, like it's just in the air. 1319 01:01:39.199 --> 01:01:43.119 And man, when the music keeps playing, you know, like Susannah, 1320 01:01:43.199 --> 01:01:46.800 everyone's awake and it's just the same song. And Lisa's 1321 01:01:46.840 --> 01:01:48.559 like in the kitchen hanging out right. I think she 1322 01:01:48.599 --> 01:01:51.599 really wants to make pancakes and she's like she's playing 1323 01:01:51.599 --> 01:01:56.320 that shit all goddamn morning. Susannah knows like, okay, that's weird, 1324 01:01:56.480 --> 01:01:58.360 and then she goes up those stairs and that's what 1325 01:01:58.440 --> 01:02:00.280 I'm like. It feels like a horror movie, like we 1326 01:02:00.360 --> 01:02:03.440 have switched. It's not really like drama, like you know, 1327 01:02:03.639 --> 01:02:05.519 kind of coming of age drama. It's not really kind 1328 01:02:05.559 --> 01:02:08.920 of like girls fun like you know, crazy girls getting along. 1329 01:02:08.960 --> 01:02:12.840 It's like, no, we are now in just devastation and 1330 01:02:13.239 --> 01:02:15.599 we know what we're gonna see. But still when she 1331 01:02:15.679 --> 01:02:18.159 opens that door and we just kind of see kind 1332 01:02:18.199 --> 01:02:21.400 of over the shoulder like hand, uh, you know, Daisy's

1333 01:02:21.400 --> 01:02:25.360 hand like hanging there, oh god, and how Susannah is 1334 01:02:25.360 --> 01:02:29.280 sick to her stomach. Belie is just there like hmm, like. 1335 01:02:29.400 --> 01:02:34.400 Ooh mm hmmm, and she, like Angela says, we just 1336 01:02:34.440 --> 01:02:35.079 call it hers. 1337 01:02:35.159 --> 01:02:37.760 I was like, oh, heartless. 1338 01:02:37.559 --> 01:02:40.760 Could you you at this point assume that Lucy has 1339 01:02:40.800 --> 01:02:45.280 seen this kind of She's seen people do this, maybe 1340 01:02:45.320 --> 01:02:48.280 at Claymore. Probably she's been around it, so she's a 1341 01:02:48.320 --> 01:02:52.639 little bit more used to it, unfortunately, And so that's 1342 01:02:52.679 --> 01:02:53.480 how I read the scene. 1343 01:02:53.800 --> 01:02:55.880 Yeah, oh yeah, that's a great point. Yeah, because she's 1344 01:02:55.920 --> 01:02:57.760 been there for a while. She's she might have even 1345 01:02:57.800 --> 01:03:00.239 seen this happen before even getting to Claymore when she 1346 01:03:00.280 --> 01:03:03.280 was younger, right, so she's seen some shit. So yeah. 1347 01:03:03.320 --> 01:03:07.480 And then also she's kind of enjoying that she had 1348 01:03:07.519 --> 01:03:09.559 the power over Daisy. You know. I think she even 1349 01:03:09.599 --> 01:03:11.840 says something like I didn't do that. I just like 1350 01:03:12.320 --> 01:03:14.400 told her the truth and we all knew that was 1351 01:03:14.440 --> 01:03:16.800 gonna happen anyway, you know, that was like her mentality, 1352 01:03:17.039 --> 01:03:20.920 And it's so sick, Rudy, how I forgot this shot. 1353 01:03:21.199 --> 01:03:24.440 Then we actually do see Britney Murphy there hanging in 1354 01:03:24.480 --> 01:03:28.320 the background as there as not they, but Lisa is 1355 01:03:28.400 --> 01:03:30.719 taking money out of her pockets and giving it to 1356 01:03:30.760 --> 01:03:34.239 Susannah and like, oh, it's just so dirty, it is 1357 01:03:34.280 --> 01:03:37.039 so wrong, and Lisa's not blinking an eye. Right, that 1358 01:03:37.199 --> 01:03:38.960 is a major turning point for all of us. I 1359 01:03:38.960 --> 01:03:41.079 feel like where it's like, oh, Okay, you were fun, 1360 01:03:41.800 --> 01:03:45.880 but no, you actually are messed up, you know. And 1361 01:03:45.920 --> 01:03:49.840 I forgot before this whole sequence it Actually I love it. 1362 01:03:49.840 --> 01:03:51.960 I remembered it so well. I remember the music, the score. 1363 01:03:52.880 --> 01:03:57.400 Lisa wakes Susannah up as they you know, right before 1364 01:03:57.599 --> 01:04:01.280 they flee the uh, the hospital, and she's got tears 1365 01:04:01.280 --> 01:04:04.119 in her eyes. She looks wacky. Do you remember that. 1366 01:04:04.159 --> 01:04:05.639 It's like a shot in the dark and she's like 1367 01:04:05.880 --> 01:04:08.039 you still want to go to Florida and like she's 1368 01:04:08.119 --> 01:04:11.480 like not all there, And that's really when, yeah, things 1369 01:04:11.480 --> 01:04:13.079 start to get spooky. And then and then they run 1370 01:04:13.119 --> 01:04:15.440 out there because she's she keeps calling at that moment, 1371 01:04:15.519 --> 01:04:21.039 she calls uh Susannah Jamie, who was Lisa's friend who 1372 01:04:21.079 --> 01:04:24.880 committed suicide before Susanna entered, Right, I forgot about that. 1373 01:04:25.360 --> 01:04:27.639 Actually, there was a line that she did. She killed 1374 01:04:27.639 --> 01:04:30.760 herself while when Lisa was gone because she missed her, right, 1375 01:04:30.760 --> 01:04:32.679 So I think Lisa and Lucy probably have had some 1376 01:04:32.719 --> 01:04:34.320 sort of guilt there for that as well. You think 1377 01:04:34.480 --> 01:04:36.880 that guilt would have made her not be but she was. 1378 01:04:37.280 --> 01:04:41.800 I know, Yeah, it drove her, drove her the other way. Yeah, 1379 01:04:41.880 --> 01:04:46.199 So that whole bit is very memorable, very dark. Oh 1380 01:04:46.239 --> 01:04:48.480 it's heavy, heavy, heavy, and we kind of don't get 1381 01:04:48.599 --> 01:04:51.159 lighter after that. Like it's then pretty heavy for the 1382 01:04:51.159 --> 01:04:54.119 most part. Like Susannah gets better. That's nice to see 1383 01:04:54.159 --> 01:04:57.280 her montage of like you know, and no one heard 1384 01:04:57.320 --> 01:05:00.960 from Lisa, but then Lisa comes back. They found her 1385 01:05:01.039 --> 01:05:04.719 and she's looking She's got like twitches, right, she's like 1386 01:05:04.800 --> 01:05:07.280 on something. Oh God, spooky. 1387 01:05:07.320 --> 01:05:11.000 I think I think it's part of all the withdrawals 1388 01:05:11.000 --> 01:05:13.159 from the medication that was keeping her hand right. 1389 01:05:13.440 --> 01:05:16.920 And I'm not having that impacted you know Crystal billity. 1390 01:05:16.800 --> 01:05:20.039 Yes, And also who knows, I mean a woman who 1391 01:05:20.079 --> 01:05:24.079 looks like her, you know, sexy, young, like voluptuous woman 1392 01:05:24.800 --> 01:05:27.280 hitch hiking like I don't like you. Also just think like, 1393 01:05:27.320 --> 01:05:30.760 oh God, like what happened to you after Susannah left you? 1394 01:05:30.760 --> 01:05:33.000 You know, you were helping each other out, but then 1395 01:05:33.000 --> 01:05:36.320 when you're solo, you're strong, Lisa, but you're not you know, 1396 01:05:36.519 --> 01:05:39.000 anyone could do anything to you, you know, so like, oh, 1397 01:05:39.079 --> 01:05:41.840 that's dark. And then of course they put Lisa in 1398 01:05:41.880 --> 01:05:44.679 that like private room where it's just the it's just 1399 01:05:44.719 --> 01:05:47.639 like the slot for your eyes, right, and she is 1400 01:05:47.760 --> 01:05:48.360 not all there. 1401 01:05:48.559 --> 01:05:51.320 Yeah, she's like she's like strapped to the bed, right. 1402 01:05:51.519 --> 01:05:55.119 Yeah, yeah, she's like totally And but

then then that 1403 01:05:55.159 --> 01:05:57.760 takes us to the big finale, which is I know, 1404 01:05:57.840 --> 01:06:00.760 some critics did not like it. They called it melodramatic. 1405 01:06:01.280 --> 01:06:03.360 It definitely feels different than the rest of the movie 1406 01:06:04.480 --> 01:06:08.159 where Lisa has gotten out and Susannah was kind of noticing. 1407 01:06:08.199 --> 01:06:11.719 You know, there's that one woman who's kind of lying 1408 01:06:11.760 --> 01:06:14.920 on the floor passing notes with Lisa in this kind 1409 01:06:14.920 --> 01:06:17.880 of like contained area, right, so like something's going on. 1410 01:06:17.920 --> 01:06:21.159 There's like a plan going on, and Susannah has Daisy's cat, 1411 01:06:21.960 --> 01:06:24.599 takes her medicine to fall asleep. It's her last night, right, 1412 01:06:24.920 --> 01:06:27.800 So of course it just feels so horror movie. It's like, okay, 1413 01:06:27.800 --> 01:06:29.719 it's your last night here, like you want to get 1414 01:06:29.719 --> 01:06:32.679 your rest. Oh it's not gonna be a RESTful night, right, 1415 01:06:33.000 --> 01:06:35.280 because she takes her pill, she shuts her eyes for 1416 01:06:35.320 --> 01:06:37.519 what seems like a second, she opens the cat's gone. 1417 01:06:38.039 --> 01:06:40.679 She like the place is like a ghost town, but 1418 01:06:40.800 --> 01:06:44.079 she hears like laughter in the distance, and Lisa has 1419 01:06:44.199 --> 01:06:49.559 basically rallied our main girls against Susannah by reading the 1420 01:06:49.679 --> 01:06:55.000 journal and it's just so mean girl, and oh my god, Rudy, 1421 01:06:55.079 --> 01:06:58.760 I forgot Then Angelina Joey pulls out like a syringe, 1422 01:06:58.800 --> 01:07:01.880 like a needle, like is she gonna hill Susannah? 1423 01:07:02.000 --> 01:07:05.079 Like it feels like that, you know, it was twisted. 1424 01:07:05.440 --> 01:07:07.519 It's twisted. Do you think it works or did it 1425 01:07:07.599 --> 01:07:09.519 go a little off the rails for you? What do 1426 01:07:09.559 --> 01:07:09.880 you think? 1427 01:07:10.559 --> 01:07:12.599 You know? It was? It was just it was just 1428 01:07:12.719 --> 01:07:13.039 I don't know. 1429 01:07:13.079 --> 01:07:15.679 I think I felt like jumping the shark a little bit, 1430 01:07:15.760 --> 01:07:19.119 try to like boost, you know, because it just would 1431 01:07:19.119 --> 01:07:23.119 have been I think if that scene was cut out, 1432 01:07:23.440 --> 01:07:25.239 like the movie still would have played fine. It just 1433 01:07:25.320 --> 01:07:27.119 kind of gave like an extra level of like why 1434 01:07:27.199 --> 01:07:30.599 do we need to make Lucy this even? You make 1435 01:07:30.599 --> 01:07:33.320 her even more of a trouble person to write her 1436 01:07:33.360 --> 01:07:36.679 this way because she's already in that room tied up, yeah, 1437 01:07:36.679 --> 01:07:40.280 you know, and it's just like why give this this extra. 1438 01:07:40.039 --> 01:07:44.480 Push to be mean? Right? Mean spirited and have all 1439 01:07:44.599 --> 01:07:49.199 her one of his friends, Susanna, right, Susannah, it's friends 1440 01:07:49.960 --> 01:07:51.119 go against her, you know. 1441 01:07:51.800 --> 01:07:53.920 Yeah that's a good point. Yeah, because we already have 1442 01:07:54.039 --> 01:07:56.880 just seen like Lisa do her damage, you know, like 1443 01:07:57.000 --> 01:08:00.239 she is a bad person, right, so yeah, now to 1444 01:08:00.360 --> 01:08:02.960 really make her this, you know. And it's in these 1445 01:08:03.400 --> 01:08:06.519 we're back in the creepy hallways, the tunnels this like, 1446 01:08:06.559 --> 01:08:10.320 you know, and it's and like literally Lisa is chasing Susannah, 1447 01:08:10.360 --> 01:08:12.880 you know, like she's walking after her, very like Michael Myers, 1448 01:08:13.360 --> 01:08:16.520 you know. Susannah hurts her hand on the door, which 1449 01:08:16.520 --> 01:08:19.039 I'm like, Okay, this is definitely feeling like like the 1450 01:08:19.079 --> 01:08:20.920 studio where someone was like, Okay, we need to really 1451 01:08:20.960 --> 01:08:22.119 like make it creepy. 1452 01:08:22.239 --> 01:08:24.680 You know. I can see that a little more action, 1453 01:08:25.279 --> 01:08:27.000 which I mean, here's the thing. 1454 01:08:27.159 --> 01:08:29.800 It works for me, but it's still I can tell 1455 01:08:29.840 --> 01:08:31.680 and I could tell even as a kid. I'm like, Okay, 1456 01:08:31.680 --> 01:08:34.560 this is different. Why does it feel like we're now 1457 01:08:34.600 --> 01:08:38.479 in a different like zone here, you know. So I 1458 01:08:38.520 --> 01:08:41.000 wonder if it could have been achieved just in a 1459 01:08:41.119 --> 01:08:44.760 less high stakes way with the needle and the screaming 1460 01:08:44.840 --> 01:08:46.520 and like you know, what if. 1461 01:08:47.199 --> 01:08:48.920 What if I guess it could have been toned down 1462 01:08:48.920 --> 01:08:49.359 a little bit. 1463 01:08:50.399 --> 01:08:52.119 I wonder if like it could have like what you're 1464 01:08:52.159 --> 01:08:55.880 saying is we almost didn't really need it. Maybe what 1465 01:08:56.000 --> 01:08:59.119 if like Lisa whispered to like her friends through the 1466 01:08:59.359 --> 01:09:02.239 under the you know door, like I know where her 1467 01:09:02.319 --> 01:09:04.720 journal is, Go get it, let's read it, And like 1468 01:09:04.720 --> 01:09:06.279 what if it's all just right there in the hallway, 1469 01:09:06.359 --> 01:09:09.479 Like that's still you know what I mean, that still 1470 01:09:09.520 --> 01:09:12.560 feels like a confrontations are exposed. 1471 01:09:12.800 --> 01:09:14.560 Yeah, she's gonna walk out of her room and then 1472 01:09:14.600 --> 01:09:17.439 saw them all by Lisa's door and then reading the 1473 01:09:17.479 --> 01:09:19.640 journal together and then she kind of at that moment 1474 01:09:19.640 -->

01:09:21.079 because then it because it does leads late in the 1475 01:09:21.119 --> 01:09:23.319 movie where she makes amends and tells them you know, 1476 01:09:23.479 --> 01:09:25.640 you know, even like to Chloe little Ball's character, like 1477 01:09:25.640 --> 01:09:27.520 you know, I didn't mean I wrote about you, And 1478 01:09:27.520 --> 01:09:28.600 she's like she's. 1479 01:09:28.439 --> 01:09:30.079 Like, yeah, you kind of did, but yeah, OK. 1480 01:09:30.239 --> 01:09:32.239 Yeah, yeah you're right, yeah, cause she's like, actually I 1481 01:09:32.239 --> 01:09:35.159 am a pathological hour. I like how during the big climax, 1482 01:09:35.479 --> 01:09:39.359 Clear says like something like did you really say that? 1483 01:09:39.439 --> 01:09:42.239 Like you need to erase that because my father is 1484 01:09:42.279 --> 01:09:45.079 the head of the CIA. You know, and she just 1485 01:09:45.079 --> 01:09:46.680 says it in such a great way where we all 1486 01:09:46.680 --> 01:09:49.399 know like, no, he's not, you're lying right now. But 1487 01:09:49.479 --> 01:09:51.399 she also, you know, much like a lot of them, 1488 01:09:51.399 --> 01:09:53.359 like she can't get out of her own way, like 1489 01:09:53.399 --> 01:09:55.920 she doesn't actually know what is real and what's not. 1490 01:09:56.119 --> 01:09:56.319 You know. 1491 01:09:57.039 --> 01:10:00.680 Yeah, the ending is definitely it ramps up at it nowhere. 1492 01:10:01.479 --> 01:10:04.039 I think I like it, but it just I don't know. 1493 01:10:04.119 --> 01:10:07.000 Seeing the needle, I had forgotten about that and seeing 1494 01:10:07.000 --> 01:10:09.720 that now just the other night, I'm like, Okay, that 1495 01:10:09.960 --> 01:10:11.960 is crazy. What are you gonna do with that? Are 1496 01:10:11.960 --> 01:10:14.199 you gonna like, okay, are you gonna kill her? Are 1497 01:10:14.199 --> 01:10:15.760 you gonna knock her out? And when you knock her out? 1498 01:10:15.800 --> 01:10:17.640 What are you gonna do to her? Like it's just 1499 01:10:18.079 --> 01:10:19.000 it's weird. It's weird. 1500 01:10:19.279 --> 01:10:21.319 She first wanted to scare her, but I mean, I. 1501 01:10:21.239 --> 01:10:26.319 Guess so, and then Lisa wants to once once Susannah 1502 01:10:26.359 --> 01:10:27.920 like really gets to her, and I love the way 1503 01:10:27.960 --> 01:10:33.079 we notice says your heart is cold, you know, but 1504 01:10:33.159 --> 01:10:36.479 she Susannah really gets under her skin. No one cares 1505 01:10:36.520 --> 01:10:40.720 if you die, Lisa, because you're dead already. Your heart 1506 01:10:41.079 --> 01:10:44.640 is cold. Like hearing that is like, oh you know 1507 01:10:44.720 --> 01:10:49.439 that stops Angelina from trying to attack Susannah, but then 1508 01:10:49.520 --> 01:10:52.199 she's trying to give herself the substance she's trying to, 1509 01:10:52.239 --> 01:10:54.479 like then use the needle on her, and it's like, oh, 1510 01:10:54.640 -->

01:10:56.920 I don't like this needle. I'm also just not a 1511 01:10:56.960 --> 01:10:59.760 needle person at all, so yeah, it just I'm like, 1512 01:11:00.279 --> 01:11:04.279 you know, so yeah. But then next day they all 1513 01:11:04.319 --> 01:11:08.159 wake up, Lisa's been restrained in bed, right, and Susannah 1514 01:11:08.199 --> 01:11:11.479 goes around hugging everyone, and everyone kind of quickly gets 1515 01:11:11.520 --> 01:11:14.079 over what just happened last night, you know, and they 1516 01:11:14.079 --> 01:11:17.159 say they're goodbyes. But at least Lisa and Susannah have 1517 01:11:17.680 --> 01:11:20.479 a nice moment, even though we know it's kind of 1518 01:11:20.479 --> 01:11:22.760 a lie. Like Susanna's like when you get out, like 1519 01:11:22.840 --> 01:11:24.960 come visit me that kind of stuff. 1520 01:11:25.039 --> 01:11:28.880 Is that when she's painting her nails? Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, 1521 01:11:28.920 --> 01:11:30.279 I like that. I mean I like that same. 1522 01:11:30.880 --> 01:11:31.159 Yeah. 1523 01:11:31.319 --> 01:11:33.279 It was nice even though, yeah, granted she knows she's 1524 01:11:33.319 --> 01:11:35.720 not getting out, but she it's nice to hear it. 1525 01:11:36.319 --> 01:11:39.840 Yeah, it's nice that even though literally Susannah was about 1526 01:11:39.880 --> 01:11:43.760 to possibly die a few hours prior, she's like, she 1527 01:11:44.000 --> 01:11:47.119 knows that Lisa can't help herself, and yeah, she has 1528 01:11:47.159 --> 01:11:49.520 this nice moment with the nail polish that I believe 1529 01:11:50.159 --> 01:11:53.520 Angela Betta says, I had to trade with a transvestite 1530 01:11:53.520 --> 01:11:56.000 in the men's ward for the nail polish, Like that 1531 01:11:56.239 --> 01:12:00.560 line is so sixties. But yeah, they have this week moment. 1532 01:12:00.560 --> 01:12:02.560 But yeah, they both know they're never going to see 1533 01:12:02.560 --> 01:12:04.199 each other again. And I think Winona even says in 1534 01:12:04.239 --> 01:12:06.680 her voiceover at the end, she's like, did any get out? 1535 01:12:07.079 --> 01:12:10.399 Did some stay forever? And it's like Lisa state forever. 1536 01:12:10.560 --> 01:12:12.600 You know, she might have gotten out, but she's gonna 1537 01:12:12.640 --> 01:12:15.479 come back or they're gonna find her and she's gonna Yeah. 1538 01:12:15.319 --> 01:12:17.680 She probably escaped a few times. You know. That was 1539 01:12:17.720 --> 01:12:19.760 her way out the tunnels to get out. That makes 1540 01:12:19.760 --> 01:12:20.800 sense how she got up so often. 1541 01:12:20.800 --> 01:12:22.600 She knew how to get out, but they never figured 1542 01:12:22.600 --> 01:12:24.039 out how to lock them up or seal the time. 1543 01:12:24.159 --> 01:12:27.760 No, right, it's like whoop. He wasn't like Susannah, how'd 1544 01:12:27.760 --> 01:12:29.680 you guys get out? You know, like there's no there's 1545 01:12:29.680 --> 01:12:32.560 no brief little discussion and like showing like chains on 1546 01:12:32.600 --> 01:12:34.880 a door or something, you know. But I do love 1547 01:12:34.880 --> 01:12:36.479 that they bowl down there. I'm like, Okay, there's a 1548 01:12:36.560 --> 01:12:41.880 random little bowling alley down underground of this institution. You know, 1549 01:12:41.960 --> 01:12:46.920 that's pretty fun. Just let's go. 1550 01:12:47.359 --> 01:12:50.479 It was just so fun to see the cast young 1551 01:12:50.960 --> 01:12:54.439 play these roles, you know, and having us seen them 1552 01:12:54.600 --> 01:12:56.960 their careers go up from this. 1553 01:12:57.119 --> 01:12:59.479 You know, it's amazing they've done so much since. 1554 01:12:59.479 --> 01:13:01.159 And that was just to kind of like go back 1555 01:13:01.199 --> 01:13:04.119 and and see them all as like babies. Like even, 1556 01:13:04.199 --> 01:13:06.119 like I said earlier, played the ball like she was 1557 01:13:06.199 --> 01:13:08.159 so young in this movie, uh huh. 1558 01:13:08.119 --> 01:13:10.520 You know, and now she's just like an amazing director. 1559 01:13:11.239 --> 01:13:13.760 Oh, I know, I love her. She's great and everything. 1560 01:13:13.840 --> 01:13:15.800 I loved her Inveep a few years ago. So did 1561 01:13:15.840 --> 01:13:19.600 you watch peep On? Oh yeah, so funny, so like Stoneface. 1562 01:13:19.680 --> 01:13:22.439 But yeah, Lisa Beach was the casting director for this, 1563 01:13:22.560 --> 01:13:25.079 and we you might know she did the first three 1564 01:13:25.119 --> 01:13:28.680 Scream films. She did a lot at this time. Great 1565 01:13:28.800 --> 01:13:31.279 casting director. She knows how to piece people together and 1566 01:13:31.279 --> 01:13:34.000 it makes sense, you know, knowing she casts Rose McGowan 1567 01:13:34.039 --> 01:13:35.840 and Scream. How Rose was in the mix for this, 1568 01:13:35.880 --> 01:13:40.199 Like she knows, right, she knows like good women especially 1569 01:13:40.239 --> 01:13:42.439 and the guys, you know, but like she knows how 1570 01:13:42.479 --> 01:13:45.640 to come up with a good you know sassy, you 1571 01:13:45.680 --> 01:13:48.920 know a group of women for sure, So yeah, great, 1572 01:13:48.960 --> 01:13:51.479 cast I agree. It's fun to rewatch this and see 1573 01:13:51.520 --> 01:13:54.760 where many of them were on the rise and just 1574 01:13:54.800 --> 01:13:57.359 to see like Winona, who was already top of the 1575 01:13:57.399 --> 01:14:00.399 world just in you know, back then and now she's 1576 01:14:00.399 --> 01:14:02.039 still top of the world, just in a different way, 1577 01:14:02.119 --> 01:14:04.640 you know. So yeah, And one thing I want to say, 1578 01:14:04.640 --> 01:14:06.840 I do love the line and I would say this often, 1579 01:14:07.000 --> 01:14:08.680 just like with friends, and I feel like it was 1580 01:14:08.680 --> 01:14:14.479 in the trailers when Jared Leto surprises uh Susannah at 1581

01:14:14.520 --> 01:14:16.720 the hospital and they have their little moment in the 1582 01:14:16.800 --> 01:14:20.840 room again, another nice moment, Lisa notices, and she then 1583 01:14:20.840 --> 01:14:23.520 sees the nurses going around to do checks, and Lisa's like, 1584 01:14:23.600 --> 01:14:25.600 I'm gonna like try to help my friend have a 1585 01:14:25.640 --> 01:14:28.960 private moment, right, And so she's distracting the nurse and 1586 01:14:29.119 --> 01:14:31.039 she starts to get angry and it's kind of an act. 1587 01:14:31.039 --> 01:14:33.199 And I love the line she takes the pen but 1588 01:14:33.439 --> 01:14:36.880 the pe stuff, how jim this in my order? Your 1589 01:14:36.880 --> 01:14:40.640 a order is in your chest? Good too, and then 1590 01:14:40.800 --> 01:14:43.239 click good to know. I would do that all the time. 1591 01:14:43.279 --> 01:14:45.199 I would take a pen in class, be like good 1592 01:14:45.239 --> 01:14:47.439 to know, Good to know, right, But that whole little 1593 01:14:47.479 --> 01:14:50.319 moment is it's just cute. You know, the reason why 1594 01:14:50.359 --> 01:14:53.000 she's doing it, how annoying she is, how they're like, 1595 01:14:53.079 --> 01:14:55.000 come on, Lisa, you know, like so that whole moment 1596 01:14:55.039 --> 01:14:56.520 I thought, I just wanted to shout out, that's a 1597 01:14:56.560 --> 01:14:58.720 that's a fun moment for sure, you know. And I 1598 01:14:58.720 --> 01:15:01.159 love also one other quote when I think it's the 1599 01:15:01.199 --> 01:15:04.439 same thing right before then, I just came to me, 1600 01:15:04.600 --> 01:15:07.039 I think, what was Elizabeth Moss's name, Polly? I think 1601 01:15:07.520 --> 01:15:11.159 she's on the ground trying to like listen to Wanona 1602 01:15:11.359 --> 01:15:14.760 and Jared leto right, and Lisa's in her chair and 1603 01:15:14.760 --> 01:15:17.560 she goes, what you do? Oh yeah, she calls her torch, 1604 01:15:17.600 --> 01:15:20.000 which is so sick. Oh my god, so sick. She goes, 1605 01:15:20.039 --> 01:15:22.760 what you doing nothing? Well, why don't you go to 1606 01:15:22.840 --> 01:15:25.520 your room and do nothing? I just love how she 1607 01:15:25.600 --> 01:15:29.600 says that. Love it, well, thank you, my friend. So yeah, 1608 01:15:30.039 --> 01:15:32.279 did you say so you wrote your review on the Damned? 1609 01:15:32.319 --> 01:15:34.319 Is that out yet? We can't read it? Right? 1610 01:15:34.560 --> 01:15:38.000 No, it's already okay. My Instagram is like it is 1611 01:15:38.079 --> 01:15:38.880 Rudy my name. 1612 01:15:38.960 --> 01:15:42.640 Yeah, I highlights that there's a section from my movie 1613 01:15:42.680 --> 01:15:45.199 reviews and Okay, good, So you just click on that 1614 01:15:45.279 --> 01:15:46.159 and it'll bring it up. 1615 01:15:46.239 --> 01:15:47.079 So perfect. 1616 01:15:47.239 --> 01:15:49.439 So we got to read more of Rudy's reviews. Everybody, 1617 01:15:49.680 --> 01:15:54.319 uncertainty about goals and a generally pessimistic attitude are often observed. 1618 01:15:55.560 --> 01:15:58.600 That's me, that's everybody. 1619 01:15:58.359 --> 01:16:00.479 And there you have it. That's what you have to 1620 01:16:00.520 --> 01:16:04.079 say about Girl Interrupted, which is the last nineteen ninety 1621 01:16:04.199 --> 01:16:07.079 nine Nish movie that I'll talk about for a while, 1622 01:16:07.159 --> 01:16:10.039 at least until twenty twenty nine if I'm still doing this. 1623 01:16:10.760 --> 01:16:13.680 Thanks so much to my great guest Rudy Valdez for 1624 01:16:13.800 --> 01:16:16.680 your thoughts and for your time, and thank you Todor 1625 01:16:16.760 --> 01:16:20.000 for your cameo. Give them both a follow on social 1626 01:16:20.119 --> 01:16:22.600 and check out what they're working on. Rudy is at 1627 01:16:22.760 --> 01:16:27.600 Oh It's Rudy, and Todor is at iliev Illustration. Thanks 1628 01:16:27.640 --> 01:16:30.239 all of you for listening, watching, and spreading the word 1629 01:16:30.239 --> 01:16:34.600 about this podcast. Thanks also Straw Media, Kyle Motsinger, Greg 1630 01:16:34.640 --> 01:16:37.560 Clements and Portland Media Center. And in the words of 1631 01:16:37.720 --> 01:16:39.239 Stern Valerie Owens 1632 01:16:39.800 --> 01:16:51.399 Remember me when you shave your legs