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Speaker 1: Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King. I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your favorite shows from the Real Housewives of Atlanta, New Jersey, and my own creation, the Love and Marriage franchise and Bell Collective. Every episode, we recap reality television from the Real Housewives franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset. in addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or scripted as well. All right, so Claudia Blue, Dominique Dustin, the time has come to talk about the Real Housewives of Potomac. The girls are on a cast trip, and one of the biggest things that came out of this trip is what is going on between Stacey and Wendy's friendship. So, The ladies are having lunch and Stacey gets questioned about her involvement in telling Tia what her husband Rob was doing in the dating apps and how she told her on camera. Giselle and Ashley felt that Stacey was messy for mentioning it on camera because they thought they were friends. And Giselle said, y'all know that my, you know, hands to the cross is for mentioning things on my podcast, and Stacey gets a pass. At this point, Wendy decides to interject to repeat exactly verbatim what Stacey said to Tia about how you said some very unfortunate things about my husband. Now is the time that I unfortunately have to tell you things about yours. From there, the ladies felt that Stacey was in the wrong, so much so that Stacey even checked Wendy about this. And Wendy said in her defense, hey, I just told the truth and I don't see why you're mad. Dustin, was Wendy wrong for repeating what Stacey said? And is Giselle right that Stacey should have told Tia this off camera?
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Speaker 2: Giselle got on my nerves so goddamn bad this whole entire episode. Being flat out mean and hateful to Stacey, starting shit, causing problems.
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Speaker 3: Turning nothing into something, that was pissing me off.
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Speaker 2: For Giselle to get up there and try to create some false equivalency between the conversation that Stacey had with Tia and Wendy and what she carried her ass down to the iHeart Studios and did, Black Effect Studios and did with Robin on her podcast, those are two completely different situations with two completely different intentions. Giselle was so careless and casual about with the information that she used it as a joke before we even knew what was going on. She used that during filming on the show to tell a joke and her audience didn't even have a reference for it. They didn't even know what she was talking about. That's how much she don't give a fuck. Stacey brought it to Tia, told her to her face. Those are two totally different situations that everybody hates.
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Speaker 3: Stacey's shit is tired at this point.
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Speaker 2: And you can tell Stacey's getting tired of it too because her patience is thinning with these people.
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Speaker 3: On this show. As evidenced by her pulling Wendy to the
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side immediately. And letting her know.
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Speaker 2: I'm so disappointed in you. Because Wendy you didn't do anything to help Stacey. And Giselle was literally. Targeting Stacey the entire episode. Gonna tell Tia. She wasn't doing that to be nice. Well what was Giselle's intention. In talking shit about Tia's situation. To everybody and on the show.
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Speaker 3: To Robin. To the audience. To all of them. That's tired. It's a false equivalency. I'm tired at this point. Weren't they on episode five? Yes.
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Speaker 2: I'm tired at this point. The everybody hates Stacey shit is getting very old. And I'm going to tell you this too. Courtney tried to pull a fast one at the end and loop back into the conversation about Stacey growing up as a Jehovah's Witness, which she mentioned herself in her interview with you, Carlos. She told everybody that situation, talked at length about her relationship with her mother, about her experience growing up. That's not a secret, nor is it this dark, shady situation that the Courtney lady is trying to make it by bringing it up, talking about, did she escape her mother and escape a cult?
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Speaker 3: That's not cool. I didn't like the way that that made me feel.
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Speaker 2: It took me right back to the season when NECA was on the show and.
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Speaker 3: She talked that shit. You feel me, Blue?
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Speaker 2: She talked that shit about Wendy's mama. It took us right back to that bullshit, and we don't like that. And if anybody needs to be surveilled to see if they're a religious zealot, a person who is who is going too far with the religious shit is Courtney sending out false flag warnings online and shit. Fear mongering people telling people to get supplies and shit like that is a little bit more concerning than how Stacey may or may not have had an experience growing up with her mama. I didn't like that shit. I didn't like Gisele pulling everybody to the side and really gunning for Stacey like that.
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Speaker 3: I didn't like it.
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Speaker 2: And I can't wait until we get that scene that was in the trailer when Stacey says what she says to Gisele.
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Speaker 3: I can't wait.
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Speaker 4: Call her the B words.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I'll go next. I will say this. Y'all know I'll go up for Gisele. I will be very honest. Gisele annoyed me in this episode as well. I love Gisele. This, it was, it was too, too much.
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Speaker 4: Right.
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Speaker 5: Right.
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Speaker 1: I like when Giselle's warranted for being messy and it's funny. You know, all of us actually were very honest, as we always are, about Giselle being very mean to Angel Massey last season. It was like, this ain't even fun, messy. You know, this picking on Stacey is not going to end well for these girls. I don't know why they're doing it. I'm actually surprised that they didn't learn their lesson based on the cover of Vulture magazine. that Stacey covered. Stacey was awarded the reality star of last year by me. Stacey is that girl. And I will say that I do think there's some envy going on there. I love Dr. Wendy a whole lot.
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Speaker 5: Y'all know I do.
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Speaker 1: While I don't think Dr. Wendy was wrong for repeating something that Stacey did say from a semantics standpoint, I think timing is everything. And if you see one of your homegirls getting targeted as her friend, you need to defend her in the sense. And she did when she said, well, you know, Stacey actually did it this way. So Wendy's defense, she did have a defense for her. But I think Wendy needs to know if you're going to be this girl's friend, don't say things that could be used against her. And I think Stacey was right in terms of feeling that kind of way. And I will say this. This is the problem with reality TV in 2026. Why the fuck are we talking about what should not be said on camera that is actually happening in this woman's life? This is the reason why reality TV sucks nowadays. It's the reason why we can spend an hour and 20 minutes on Love and Marriage Huntsville and we give other shows 20 because these are real stuff that we really want to see. Why is it that these are bad women... I'm sorry, why is Stacey a bad person for telling Tia what happened in her reality? That shit baffled me. Is the reason why these shows don't grow, is the reason why these shows get stifled, because we want real reality. Why is Stacey the bad guy for something that Rob did? And yes, Tia did say, leave Stacey alone. Rob did it. And I get all that. But in the same breath, Tia said, well, I appreciate you for, you know, having me find out about in the car and not in front of my children. Listen, y'all could use that children word as a way for us to be like, ooh, hands off. It doesn't work for me. Shout out to Fajan Apollo, Candy and Todd at Mama Joy's, NeNe Leakes and Greg Leakes, Cynthia Bailey and Peter Thomas, Ashley Darby and Michael Darby. Hello. Kansas Dilla Bassett and Chris Bassett, Juan Dixon and Robin Dixon. Shout out to the people who signed on to do a reality show and they lived their reality. This shit annoys the fuck out of me. And that entire dialogue should have never even happened at all.
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Speaker 3: Yep.
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Speaker 1: Claudia Jordan.
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Speaker 6: Oh. I had to watch that scene a couple of times. I was a little confused. I'm like, wait, who's friends with who? Wait, wait, you are her friend or you're not your friend? Wait, okay, then she's saying this. I was like, I would have been mad at a few of them. Like, okay, if I was Stacey, I mean, if I was Tia, I would feel a way about Stacey not picking up the phone and telling me to my face, right? I mean, telling me off camera. I get that. But then I also get that it's a reality show. It's like everyone's not playing by the same rules, which makes it so fucking frustrating. Because when Stacey drops the bomb on camera, there's an issue
there. But then Tia won't have a conversation with her husband on camera. So we're missing all of that context. So it's like half the people are playing the game correctly. Half the people are playing the game and half the people are not. And it is annoying. It is annoying.
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Speaker 5: So.
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Speaker 6: I don't know, man.
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Speaker 3: Yes, you do.
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Speaker 6: Everyone needs to earn their check. And earn their check with the same rules. Because that's why the scene was so confusing to me. It really was. And it really got on my nerves. Whose friends are who, for real? Who do you think is the realest, closest friends?
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Speaker 5: Giselle and Robin.
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Speaker 6: Okay, besides Giselle. And then even there's some shit there. But Giselle and Robin. And that's it, right?
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Speaker 3: That's it.
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Speaker 5: Well, here's the thing. Stacey was a friend and Stacey's finding out in real time how jealous people are. So here's the thing about the threads that are interesting. When that episode came out, remember, Carlos, on that episode I said, and when Stacey said, I'm sorry for what, I mean, I'm happy you're sorry for what you said about my husband because I'm about to be sorry for what I'm about to say about yours. We all said she ate. Stacey was on your show. She was on covers of magazines. She was applauded all over TikTok for showmanship. I actually am calling bullshit on Wendy, because it's not what you say, it's not what you say, it's how you say it. Sometimes it's not even what you say or how you say it, it's why you said it. I'm actually calling bullshit on Wendy, right? Because sometimes the biggest manipulators say everything pleasant, and they're still manipulators. What I saw happen was Stacey is being applauded for showmanship. She's being applauded for having these one-liners and these zingers and people making fun of her for smelling. Let's all raise our hands and lift our armpits. Stacey, whatever you do, she's Teflon. Wendy rehearses her lines like Eminem in 50 Mile. What is it, 8 Mile? 8 Mile. Wendy's like Issa Rae in front of the damn thingy like, yeah, I'm going to go like this. She memorizes. She works really hard to be a contrived version of what Stacey naturally is. And what really kind of gives me the ick right now on Wendy. Wendy, I'm calling bullshit. You know I always have your back. Not this time. I don't care if you took that money. I do care about you doing this. There was a moment where she realized that Stacey had gained grace from Tia. Everybody on here, we're all very blunt people, right? You got a Pisces, two Aries, Libra, Taurus. We're all very blunt people. There are certain things we say rah-rah on here that somebody who doesn't know us might think we're being rude and we're about to fight the whole time we're having a kiki. There are norms in relationships. What Wendy saw was Tia, who used to be offended by everything Stacey says, is now used to the way Stacey talks. She's used to her performance and her showmanship, and she trusted her heart. We're having a moment where Tia is saying, you know what, Stacey? Thank you. Because you could have done it worse. Wendy doesn't like Stacey getting grace. Wendy likes Stacey being at the bottom of the barrel and her being Stacey's only friend. Be careful of someone who has your back when you are hated but can't let you be loved.
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Speaker 3: There are friends who only.
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Speaker 5: Have your back when you are downtrodden and the minute you up now they resent you because you don't know your place anymore. So I think it's bullshit that Wendy said that because semantics aside, because semantics tends to be your badge of honor when compassion has left the fucking room. You're seeing your friend in the middle of this fisticuff and you're adding fire to it and then pretending you're trying to take out the fire that you started unnecessarily. I don't think Wendy realizes how jealous she is of Stacey. And here's the thing, if you watch Real Housewives of New York, I know all four of us, I think maybe Dustin and Carlos watch it. When Jaisal was almost bullied and ended up being the people's champ, the following season Some of the girls tried to be her friend, but a part of them couldn't get over it and they bullied her even harder. I'm not gonna use the B word now, but whenever the girl who is the butt of the joke becomes the fan favorite, they always do this to her. This is good old fashioned envy and jealousy. Wendy, it didn't look good on Karen towards you and it doesn't look good on you towards Stacey. I'm calling bullshit, Wendy. I love you, but I'm calling bullshit.
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Speaker 1: Dominique Morgan.
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Speaker 7: You know, I look at this from a different perspective I, out of everyone on this show.
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Speaker 4: I love Monique.
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Speaker 5: I am a Monique fan.
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Speaker 7: I am a Monique fan when she left that show and I love Candace. So I know that's like complicated.
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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying? I know that's complicated, right? I'm also like, I'm also really cool with Tamar and really cool with K.
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Speaker 5: Michelle.
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Speaker 4: Like I hold the things, right? So Monique being.
00:14:01
Speaker 1: Back actually made me excited because I.
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Speaker 4: Feel like she is the one that keeps it real.
00:14:05
Speaker 5: On a.
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Speaker 7: From a cultural standpoint, what I see when I watch this episode was like, have you ever been cooking and you know you should throw everything in the pot away, but you just keep adding water or you just keep.
00:14:19
Speaker 4: Adding components trying to make it poppable? When no, bitch, put it in the trash.
00:14:23
Speaker 1: Start over.
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Speaker 3: Start over.
00:14:24
Speaker 1: And I don't know if it's the whole series or just this season, y'all got too many ingredients and y'all keep adding shit.
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Speaker 4: Because
Monique is over in the corner giving her guru shit.
00:14:35
Speaker 1: All the ahas she's had post-divorce.
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Speaker 4: All that's happening. And I'm like, that's interesting, but that's not this show.
00:14:41
Speaker 5: Why am I.
00:14:42
Speaker 4: If I was on the bus, I'd be like... Sister, I need you to shut the fuck up because we here.
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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?
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Speaker 7: So I was like, well, what is this? Then we get to the table. Again, Monique is bringing some real conversation. Like, I love when Monique was like, hey, we're picking up the slack for these men. Like, why are we doing this?
00:15:00
Speaker 5: But I.
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Speaker 4: Feel like they're all trying to.
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Speaker 7: This should have been the season when everybody figured out how to have a conversation about what Wendy was navigating and Karen navigating.
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Speaker 4: They should have been anchored and built around it.
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Speaker 7: And y'all are suffering because y'all are letting them skirt around it and y'all are trying to add these incongruent things. Mind you, and y'all fucked up by letting Kourtney go online and speak in tongues. Now I know she's not oily and I'm not standing for any of it.
00:15:28
Speaker 5: And a Camry.
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Speaker 3: Dominique, you got me about two minutes.
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Speaker 4: If you remember last episode when we talked about her incongruent things, I was like, you know what, I'm going to hold space. I sent Carlos that video on Instagram. I said, oh, I'm done. She's not oily. I know tongues when I see it.
00:15:43
Speaker 3: Check, please.
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Speaker 4: And so for me, it's just like, y'all had this table and it just was a fool.
00:15:51
Speaker 1: This is Reality with the King and I'm Carlos King.
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Speaker 3: Let's get back into the show.
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Speaker 7: Karen, I think that Stacey knows who Stacey is and she's not going to teeter and totter. And I think more than bullying... They don't like a bitch who can't be molded. That part. And so y'all keep bringing. But the problem is the producers, the people who are leading this, y'all keep bringing in new anchors.
00:16:18
Speaker 4: And you haven't told the old anchors that you're trying to find their replacement.
00:16:21
Speaker 3: My God.
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Speaker 1: And so these anchors butt heads. And then y'all are not cleaning the canvas. So again, you have a big pile of goulash. that's salty as hell, that's got her olives in it and all this other shit. Why are olives in the goulash.
00:16:35
Speaker 4: When it just needs to be some motherfucking noodles and some beef and some sauce?
00:16:40
Speaker 1: So with that being said, Pat, first of all, that was good. You brought up Monique. What did y'all think about the conversation Monique had with Karen in terms of Dustin's best friend, Cookie? Hey, Cookie, I know you're watching.
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Speaker 5: No way.
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Speaker 1: I can't. Monique feels like, look, Karen, is this a
real friendship, right? Are we really friends because you're hanging out with my ex? You're hanging out with Cookie. Cookie talks about you behind your back, allegedly. Cookie has since posted that that's not true. You know, Karen said, look, Ray. Karen, I love you.
00:17:20
Speaker 5: Bullshit.
00:17:21
Speaker 1: Ray and Chris are friends. And everyone's like, we have never seen them hang out. I don't even think the Black Bill Gates leave the house. I don't think the Black Bill Gates.
00:17:32
Speaker 5: Does Ray know this?
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Speaker 4: Okay?
00:17:34
Speaker 1: The Black Bill Gates don't leave the gated community, honey. I don't think the Black Bill Gates even leaves the motherfucking living room.
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Speaker 4: So the idea.
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Speaker 1: that y'all are at Luenell's comedy show and the black girl gets in with you but Cookie is and Chris is there who's Chris with so anyways in Monique's defense she has every right to be concerned about like are we friends yes you're going through something but I was too but I do feel like you're hanging out with two people who I feel like aren't the kindest to me and Karen decided to pretty much say girl I've got my own shit going on Claudia what were you thinking about all of that is Monique I'm justified for feeling the way she does. She is.
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Speaker 6: But like I said, I'm confused. If these are friendships, I'd want no more of these friends. Like who is a friend on this show? And that's why I love, I love Robin being back. I'm loving her because she needs to be the only one that is thinking like how I am. Like I could never call any of these. No one's acting like a friend on this show. Everyone's violating. They're all doing things. Like several of them are doing things that are violating what a real friend would do. A real friend, contract or not. Listen, me and Cynthia Bailey are on Housewives of Atlanta together. If we ever did that again, I'm not going to wait till cameras are up. I'm going to give you a heads up and I'm going to tell you on camera, right? Like, they're doing so many violations of real friendship. Like, some of them are trying to be reality stars, and some of them are trying to be friends, but then the other person they're in a scene with, they're not trying to be a friend. It is jacked up. And like y'all said, the friendship, where? So Karen don't give a damn. I don't think Karen's anyone's friend. I'm sorry.
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Speaker 3: I really don't.
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Speaker 6: I really don't think she's anyone's friend on that show. I think none of them are. And in real life, it would be almost like, yo, you hanging with a bitch that's like straight dragging me all the time. And then are you going to just blow it off with a fake ass excuse while my husband and they hang out? It is insane to me. But these girls work for their checks. It's very entertaining, but it's not realistic to me at all. I have never been in a friend circle. Have y'all been in a friend circle like this ever in your lives?
00:19:47
Speaker 3: Hell no.
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Speaker 7: The friends girls are treacherous, honey. I had a bitch try to put me in prison, so bitch, I don't even want.
00:19:53
Speaker 6: To have that.
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Speaker 1: Oh my God.
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Speaker 6: I'm so glad that Robin is here to call it out, and I think we're going to get more and more of that. Even her own friend Giselle.
00:20:02
Speaker 5: Yeah.
00:20:04
Speaker 1: Blue, your thoughts?
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Speaker 5: I can't believe that Robin is one of my top three faves this season. We're in the upside down. We are in the upside down. And I don't know what is... I am caping for Robin Dixon in the year 2026. And, you know, we got a blue tsunami. What is this life, right? I will say this. Two things about Karen. Number one, the magic is gone. Something happened.
00:20:29
Speaker 3: I agree.
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Speaker 5: The magic is gone, Karen. I'm so sorry. I gave you several episodes. I'm going to have to release you.
00:20:36
Speaker 1: Release them.
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Speaker 5: I'm going to have to pull a Destiny and release you, baby. Because there was a thing that you had. It was like a rocket. And something happened and you can't get it back. And you've been trying to start that car for about three or four, if not five months now. We're going to have to call AARP, not AARP. What is it? Triple A, my bad. Wrong, wrong acronym.
00:20:54
Speaker 4: I said Triple A, my bad.
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Speaker 1: Them two. I'm applauding you, but I said Triple A.
00:21:01
Speaker 6: My sister-in-law is the CEO of AARP.
00:21:04
Speaker 5: Okay, but Karen, I didn't mean that, sis. I didn't mean that. I'm not going to A-shame you.
00:21:07
Speaker 1: Triple A, okay.
00:21:09
Speaker 5: Remember me different. Remember me different. Because the magic is gone. The only thing that I will give Karen sincere gratitude for is that at what point I realized Karen mentioned our point from last week about what Ray said. Rather than play victim, she said he's just worried basically that the healed me won't choose him. I really, really love that rather than take it personal and internalize it and play victim, like a lot of people do on these shows, she actually showed him grace and said, I can see it from his perspective. That's probably the most... Objective, I've seen Karen a while. But Karen, the magic is gone. I actually agree with Dominique that this is like when you make salty pasta water and you just keep on adding pasta. Now it's mushy and crunchy simultaneously.
00:21:48
Speaker 4: What is it?
00:21:49
Speaker 5: Is it porridge? Is it rice? And the thing about this messed up couscous that we have is there is going to be a moment when they're going to look around and realize some people want to be stars and some people want to maintain friendships. I will say this about Stacey and Tia. Tia was her opp. me making peace with my op is not a real friendship that I have to call you.
00:22:10
Speaker 3: That promise is so
fraudulent to me.
00:22:12
Speaker 5: If you were my op and you're trying to get in my good graces, I don't.
00:22:14
Speaker 4: Owe you a call.
00:22:15
Speaker 5: We're not even friends. We're trying to learn how to trust each other, right? So in real friendship, absolutely. But if you're an op who is trying to find a way to reconnect with me so we can do scenes together, I'm going to give you the most Erica Kane moment of, I know you're apologizing. That line was spectacular. I'm so sorry. Stacey, don't you dare apologize for one of the best moments of a lackluster season.
00:22:35
Speaker 4: Ashley Darby... Why is Ashley there?
00:22:38
Speaker 5: Why is she there?
00:22:39
Speaker 4: And is it, she got a, she don't know no black men?
00:22:43
Speaker 5: Monique is talking to herself and Ashley just keeps on walking around with white people making them plates. Like, it's really, she's going to have a fish fry for her white family. Monique is talking to herself in the crystals staring at the wall. This feels like we are in some weird, like, Ryan Murphy coven clusterfuck. It's, it's, I'm sorry, the heels have eyes. It's very bizarre. This season, I might call it. Carlos, I don't think this is it. I don't think they're going to be able to establish a season. Call your friends and say that the panel done voted and they might need to start over.
00:23:13
Speaker 6: It's crazy how fine Black people are.
00:23:16
Speaker 7: They need somebody in production who understands how sobriety changes a person at a nuclear level. Because there's three comments were put up from YouTube.
00:23:26
Speaker 4: One, someone saying, you know, my girl can have a bad season. And she's having one. She's checked out.
00:23:33
Speaker 7: I want to offer this may be who she is sober. And that's not a negative.
00:23:39
Speaker 3: No, it's okay.
00:23:40
Speaker 4: I want to say that.
00:23:42
Speaker 7: If you think there's some malaise when it comes to her looking at her husband of all this time, what does it look like in this culture, right? Because as much as we have superstars.
00:23:56
Speaker 4: Maybe Atlanta... can.
00:23:58
Speaker 7: Be pieced out with these individual superstars, but these other franchises, it's the synergy of the women. And if she's a grand dame, as they say, what is this with one of the pieces, what's with the nucleus different? And so I hope production, and again, I mentioned this last episode, whoever is her safety team, Karen, who is sober Karen that still gets to be the reality star?
00:24:25
Speaker 4: But can show up.
00:24:26
Speaker 7: And if you can't tap out, choose your sobriety over that, but she may never show up the way that people loved her for showing up. That may be a version of her that put her in prison.
00:24:38
Speaker 3: I respect that, right?
00:24:39
Speaker 2: I just know that when season one of Real Housewives of Potomac, Karen was not my favorite housewife on the cast. And then there was a shift and I started loving
Karen. So this is reminiscent of season one Karen for me. And I did not like that. So I don't like it now. Um, I'm glad Monique caught it to the forefront. I want a little bit more of Monique's spunk and fire that we love her for, especially in season five. I want the, I want the Monique that we love that was confident and a little bit more present than this friend of version of Monique that has showed up.
00:25:11
Speaker 6: It does feel like she's walking on eggshells. Like I don't want to go there all the way yet. Cause maybe I'm not so solidified. Like I used to, you know, like, like maybe that's it. It sucks. It sucks. That Karen is not, performing great sober because you ever have the friend that's fun to hang out with when they're drunk, but when they're sober, you're like, blah.
00:25:30
Speaker 5: That's like- Toxic can be sexy.
00:25:32
Speaker 6: That's the worst.
00:25:33
Speaker 5: It can be sexy. It can be fun and sexy to be toxic. You're absolutely correct.
00:25:36
Speaker 6: It is. Isn't that the worst when someone says, oh, I like drunk Claudia Bass. If I like drunk Dustin Bass, you'd be like, damn, like my regular personality ain't good enough. And then- Yeah.
00:25:44
Speaker 3: I'll take a shot and cuss their ass out. That's right.
00:25:48
Speaker 6: But Karen, it's so sad to watch. So like, look at her. She's more lethargic. She's falling asleep in scenes. You know what I'm saying?
00:25:55
Speaker 3: So are we. No, I'm just playing. But no, I'm not. I'm actually enjoying this season.
00:26:02
Speaker 2: I haven't really connected with Kourtney yet, but I'm enjoying this season so far I am. And I'm interested in this third season version of Stacey. This is Stacey's third season. We're getting to know her a little bit more.
00:26:13
Speaker 3: I'm loving that.
00:26:15
Speaker 5: I'm sad about Wendy because you know I had Wendy's back so hard I even you.
00:26:18
Speaker 3: Know we still got it she just had a bad you know.
00:26:21
Speaker 5: Moment but y'all told me that the way she talks that it doesn't get better right so based on what y'all told me I'm believing my co-host it don't feel like this gets course corrected please.
00:26:31
Speaker 1: Correct me if I'm wrong well her and Stacey allegedly allegedly based on what Giselle said in a recent interview Stacey and Wendy have a falling out our last topic let me run in a few minutes.
00:26:43
Speaker 3: Oh I gotta go too Bye, Claudia.
00:26:48
Speaker 6: What's the last question?
00:26:49
Speaker 1: Okay, I'll start with you first. The state of Ray and Karen's relationship. So Karen said that she and Ray, they don't want to throw in the towel just yet because of how long they've been married. And she also doesn't like him mentally. Karen says that Ray is used to taking care of her and she doesn't want that anymore. Where Robin also said that maybe Ray doesn't appreciate her being sober because she relied on him. Karen says she will take care of Ray for the rest of his life and jokes they should be used to seeing her in pain. Wishing me was sad because it goes to show you that. We talked about this with Marcel and Tisha. We got to, listen, married couples. I know you don't want to hear this. I'm going to say it. And I get I'm not married and I'm not straight.
00:27:44
Speaker 4: I get it.
00:27:44
Speaker 3: I'm going to say it anyway.
00:27:46
Speaker 1: So the fuck what? You don't know the covenant.
00:27:49
Speaker 3: Yeah.
00:27:50
Speaker 1: I was in a relationship for almost 20 years, child.
00:27:51
Speaker 4: I know a lot about relationships.
00:27:52
Speaker 1: But I will say this.
00:27:53
Speaker 5: Oh, you had a husband.
00:27:55
Speaker 1: Well, you know.
00:27:55
Speaker 5: Cool.
00:27:56
Speaker 1: So the thing is, you have to. It's the tism. I'm sorry.
00:28:02
Speaker 5: Go ahead.
00:28:02
Speaker 1: No. You have to be okay. with telling your partner at 70. Oh my God. Life goes on after 70. It was cold, shut up. Really?
00:28:17
Speaker 4: This is the last segment. Now we leave it. This is what I'm saying.
00:28:20
Speaker 1: Claudia, I know you got to run.
00:28:22
Speaker 4: Claudia, save yourself.
00:28:24
Speaker 1: Did Karen and Ray stay together for the sake of numerology?
00:28:28
Speaker 5: Yes.
00:28:28
Speaker 3: Oh, Claudia.
00:28:31
Speaker 6: Dustin, I'm surprised at my fellow six-month relationship person. Like, you know, we only do six. But you're not.
00:28:38
Speaker 4: 70 yet, though.
00:28:38
Speaker 5: You can still get up.
00:28:39
Speaker 3: Right. That's the thing.
00:28:40
Speaker 6: Listen, just stay together for the insurance, the benefits. But Karen, you keep doing what you're doing out there outside. Ray, I don't know what you can work with at that age as far as like, you know what I'm saying? I don't know. Just keep doing what y'all doing for the look of it. And have your fun on the side. Because I'll be damned if I be miserable at 70 years old with the one person. Y'all ain't doing it no more like that. You're not. And Karen, I think Karen likes to have fun outside. I gots to go. Karen, keep having fun outside. And Ray, you should start having fun outside. Just stay together for the.
00:29:13
Speaker 3: Look of it.
00:29:14
Speaker 6: But that's about it. That's all I have for them. That's my advice.
00:29:16
Speaker 3: I love you, Claudia.
00:29:18
Speaker 4: Love you, Claudia.
00:29:18
Speaker 5: See you next time.
00:29:19
Speaker 1: Bye, y'all.
00:29:19
Speaker 3: Bye.
00:29:21
Speaker 6: Bye, y'all.
00:29:21
Speaker 4: Dustin, what are your thoughts?
00:29:23
Speaker 1: Should Ray and Karen stay together just because of the fact that they're both older now? She is 63. He's in his 70s.
00:29:32
Speaker 3: He's like 80, right? How many years older is he?
00:29:36
Speaker 5: Okay, you know what? We need to look this up.
00:29:37
Speaker 3: No, for real. Isn't he like 20 years older than you?
00:29:40
Speaker 5: Isn't he like 20 years older than her?
00:29:41
Speaker 4: They went from 60 to 112. How old is Ray? Raymond Huger.
00:29:44
Speaker 3: Raymond Huger.
00:29:45
Speaker 2: Listen, I really don't give a fuck what's going on with their relationship. I'm just going to be honest. I told y'all from the first episode, I could care less about Karen and Ray being in trouble. I don't believe it for one second. I just, no, I don't. I don't care about none of that. I'm happy that Karen is home. I'm happy that she's on track, appears to be, and professes to be on track with her sobriety. That's what I want for her. That's what I want to talk about when it comes to her. That's what I want to see from her. These Her and Race, that one scene of them having that conversation was sufficient for the entire season.
00:30:19
Speaker 3: We don't need no deep dive into their relationship. I don't care. They not breaking up. I did.
00:30:26
Speaker 2: See, shout out to our producer who just told us he's 79. I told y'all the nigga 80.
00:30:30
Speaker 3: Oh my God.
00:30:33
Speaker 4: He's a Libra. His birthday is October 17th, 1946. Oh, he's not going nowhere.
00:30:37
Speaker 5: He's a Libra?
00:30:38
Speaker 4: That's why he didn't know what he was going to do.
00:30:39
Speaker 5: He's a Libra.
00:30:39
Speaker 4: He ain't going nowhere. He's not leaving.
00:30:41
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's not leaving, Carlos. He's too confused to leave.
00:30:43
Speaker 4: No, no, look, look.
00:30:45
Speaker 5: He's a Libra.
00:30:45
Speaker 4: He ain't going nowhere.
00:30:46
Speaker 5: He's not going anywhere. That's why I'm saying he's not going anywhere. A Libra over 55 will find a corner and stay there until they die. Maybe they're together for life.
00:30:54
Speaker 4: And Karen's a Taurus.
00:30:56
Speaker 5: Oh, she not leaving him? As a Taurus who's been engaged to a Libra, she's not going, he not going. In fact, my first thought was, I got a couple exes if we made it to 70, I'd take care of them. Neither one of them is leaving. Oh, this is easy.
00:31:07
Speaker 1: Yeah.
00:31:07
Speaker 3: They're not leaving. Please. It's just more bullshit.
00:31:10
Speaker 2: Y'all remember when Karen said that, well, it was the way it affected my children.
00:31:14
Speaker 3: My children were smart. Her kids was like 30 and 20. Your children were like 35.
00:31:18
Speaker 2: It'd be shit like that. You know what I'm... So I think the exaggeration that we've seen... from Karen on multiple occasions. I think this is another example of that blowing up something full of hot air for the sake of the show.
00:31:30
Speaker 3: I'm over it.
00:31:31
Speaker 2: I want to see her argue with them, say hilarious insults, be funny in her confessionals.
00:31:37
Speaker 3: I'm sick of her and Ray shit. That's just how I feel.
00:31:40
Speaker 7: I want to see Miss Thing leave an AA meeting. I want them engaged. Miss Thing, I want to know what you're going through. I want you to tell us, like, I want to see you in scenes with no makeup on.
00:31:52
Speaker 3: What is your skin?
00:31:53
Speaker 4: How is your skin?
00:31:54
Speaker 7: Give us the real of what you're going through. How is your body changing now that this, like, what do you need to go? I want you to go to some doctor's appointment. Let's bring on a health expert that talks.
00:32:04
Speaker 3: About what a woman needs.
00:32:06
Speaker 4: That's sap. The girls aren't trying to earn Emmys.
00:32:10
Speaker 3: That's the problem.
00:32:11
Speaker 7: Because you will give us a nasty story. Last but not least, I agree with don't go anywhere. I just wish in absence of sex, there was at least some friendship. And it feels like the friendship piece isn't there on top of the sex piece. But I hope they can find themselves there again. But absolutely, Ray, find somebody that can work your 80s.
00:32:35
Speaker 4: Get a nurse to do the hand jobs. A fierce hand job.
00:32:38
Speaker 5: A nurse does the hand job.
00:32:39
Speaker 1: That's all you need.
00:32:40
Speaker 4: Yeah, black man, go work your set.
00:32:43
Speaker 6: Absolutely.
00:32:43
Speaker 4: Or slick leg. Go ahead and slick leg, Karen. Karen, put your legs together and put a little back. Lean back there, girl. Let him go and have, let have. He ain't even got to go in the hole.
00:32:51
Speaker 5: Baby. Not a human Fifi. Dominique, just took a turn.
00:32:56
Speaker 4: In my young days, I got a lot of boys that went, girl, I really do have a coochie. It's tough. And you just gave them a little thought.
00:33:01
Speaker 1: Dominique!
00:33:02
Speaker 3: I can't.
00:33:03
Speaker 5: Karen, cut out that last part, Karen.
00:33:05
Speaker 4: Our sister is joking. Cut out that last part. And give him access.
00:33:11
Speaker 7: I would have told Kimmy the same thing if I would have been on this show a couple of years ago. Give him some thigh and some KY jelly and tell that negro.
00:33:20
Speaker 3: To go to bed, girl. No shame.
00:33:24
Speaker 5: I once had a man put in my belly button. I had to explain to him. He was losing it. I was like, have you done this before?
00:33:30
Speaker 1: Were you 12?
00:33:31
Speaker 4: We were young.
00:33:33
Speaker 5: We were in our teens.
00:33:36
Speaker 3: What'd you tell him? You missed.
00:33:38
Speaker 5: Yeah, I said wrong hole. And my voice was so deadpan, he sniffed it. Wrong hole. My belly button. Sorry, sorry, sorry. I missed y'all's statistics. Here's the thing. I would like them to have an arrangement.
00:33:53
Speaker 3: Quietly open.
00:33:54
Speaker 5: Yeah, I would love them to have an arrangement where he gets him somebody that she approves of. She can go back to the blue-eyed bandit, all these men that we've been talking about for years in Potomac that she's been going to the parties with. I would love them to have an arrangement because very much in the will and jade of it all, sometimes you meet someone who is a soulmate, who has expired or had their time with you romantically, but your spirit still sees them as family and kindred. And I wish in the English language we had a word for former spouses who are still family. The Scott Disick of it all, right? There are people in this world who, when the title you give them expires, the love for them doesn't, and it still makes sense for them to be in your tribe. And so, shout out to the gay community. We do this all the time. People got people that they call their sisters, who was originally their ex, right? All the time we do this shit. I really think that Ray needs to be, we call it a Caribbean divorce. In the Caribbean, everybody's divorced for 20 years, but nobody went to the judge and signed the paperwork. They need a Caribbean divorce, yeah.
00:34:52
Speaker 3: Amen.
00:34:54
Speaker 1: Karen, if you're listening, let us know your thoughts. All right, Raindrops. Claudia, thank you for joining us. Dominique, thank you for always being available to join us. My love, Blue and Dustin. Love you guys.
00:35:06
Speaker 3: I love you. I love working with y'all, man.
00:35:09
Speaker 4: You said what?
00:35:09
Speaker 3: I love working with y'all. Y'all niggas fun as hell, man.
00:35:12
Speaker 5: It really is.
00:35:13
Speaker 3: Love y'all. My sisters got down tonight. All three of them.
00:35:18
Speaker 5: All three of them.
00:35:19
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00:35:42
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