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content that some viewers may find offensive. The views and
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Hey! A triple feature! Three films up on the screen!
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One's a little heavy, one's a little sleek, and one's
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just caught between. We'll laugh and cry and overanalyze. Dig
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through spleens with wide, wild eyes. Grab some popcorn, take
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your seat. Three times the fun, three times the treats.
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Hey!
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A triple feature!
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That's what we're here to do!
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That's what we're here to do! Buckle up!
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Lights go down!
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And we'll watch them all with you!
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I'm the host.
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I'm the captain.
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Tonight.
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I am joined by Robert Winfrey. Say hello, Robert.
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Hello, Robert.
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Very good. Tonight on Triple Feature, it's a grab bag
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of streaming releases from the month of October. Matchbox the movie,
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Animals and Sacrifice. First, Mattel continues its cinematic expansion with Matchbox,
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an Apple TV action adventure produced by Skydance and directed
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by extraction filmmaker Sam Hargrave. John Cena headlines this toy-inspired
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espionage thriller, which earned largely negative reviews, go figure, despite
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praise for its stunt work. Next, Ben Affleck returns to
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the director's chair with Netflix's Animals, produced through Artist Equity.
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Co-starring Kerry Washington, the kidnapping thriller reunites Affleck with his
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crime drama Roots. Don't forget your roots and don't forget
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your socks. but received harsh criticism for its screenplay and
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uneven execution. I am noticing a pattern. Finally, Athena director,
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Roman Garvis, Garvis, Gavris, deliver a sacrifice and independently financed
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pathology infused satire starring Chris Evans and Anya Taylor joy
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filmed on challenging European locations. This provocative production divided critics
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with this collision of environmental extremism, celebrity culture, and absurdist violence. Well, Robert,
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How much did you hate me for making you watch
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these movies this weekend?
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Kind of a lot, actually, when it was all getting done.
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Oh, well, you know what? I've never asked of this before,
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but just tell me. Tell me why you hated me
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so much.
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Because these all suck. And you could have chosen otherwise. Hmm.
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I accept that the schedule as far as major releases,
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we are constrained and we've made our own bed as
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far as what we do on Damn You Hollywood.
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I get it.
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Sometimes, yep, that's a big old pile of crap and
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we're just going to have to walk on by it
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and through it and under it, over it and around it.
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We understand. Then you occasionally say, hey, there's no major release,
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so I want to do a triple feature. And I,
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being a fool... Just say, okay, sounds good. What's on
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your mind? And you say, well, here's this thing that
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came out that I was, you know, if it had
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been a proper release, maybe we would have checked it out.
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And then I trust the, you know, LLM to cobble
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together two other things that are loosely similar, and that's
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what we're doing. And if I had had half an
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inkling of self-preservation, I would have looked at these three
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and gone... Tell it to come up with two better
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movies to go with Matchbox, because I know I'm not
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talking you out of that one.
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Yeah, honestly, this was motivated by scheduling. The animals and sacrifice.
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Fun fact, that's how these movies got made, too. Motivated
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by scheduling.
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They both came out in October, and I figured, well,
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I mean, a lot of the triple features that we
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do that are, like, streaming grab bags are whatever, like,
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the most recent ones that came out. You know, earlier
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in the year when we did the Wrecking Crew, the Rip,
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and the Roof Man. Aroo! I have a dog now. Roof.
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Okay. I connect. That's where we are tonight. Got it. Yes.
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It was because the Rip and Wrecking Crew came out
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around the same time when we did the Bluff.
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Mike and Nick and Nick and Alice and the ballerina movie. Again,
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they were they'd all come out within like six weeks
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of each other. So that's kind of what happens is
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basically there's a break in the schedule where there isn't
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a meaningful major release. I think before I think before
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Triple Feature became a thing, we probably would have done Wildwood.
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tonight uh which i didn't see over the weekend i'll
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talk about it towards the end of the show.
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I assume it's great because i'm yeah i haven't seen
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it yet i'm seeing it tomorrow before we review it but.
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i have passive aggressive with alexis i don't put animated
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features on my bet on my top 10 i can't
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not put wildwood in the top 10 this year yeah
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it's that's excellent um but anyway yeah so back to
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these um So, yeah, Matchbox the movie, that's been on
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the calendar now for a while. And it was one
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where it was like John Cena. It was a big,
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you know, it was another toy that got made into
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a movie. And I figured, yeah, I think if streaming
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wasn't really a thing right now, that would have been
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in theaters. Yeah.
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See, in a sane world, this goes straight to DVD.
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Well, that's the thing. Like, I think if you were
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making Matchbox the movie, the way they did like He-Man
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and Barbie, this would have been an entirely different movie.
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But because they know it's going straight to streaming, what
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do we got here? The other two, this was a,
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it was a blind thing. It was like, I kind
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of saw what they were and were like, yeah, this
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is fine. This'll do.
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It was not fine for the record. The narrator voice
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chimes in. Okay. Which it occurs to me, I can't
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make those references because you've never seen the rest of development. So.
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Let's get into Matchbox. By the way, I do enjoy
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this comment here. Somebody, we had barely been on within seconds,
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and this ADHD-riddled fucking autistic goes, now I get why
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no one is watching. This is boring. This, parentheses, boring.
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Mistin is there. But, you know, Barani's here, and that's
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all that matters.
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Actual understanding of the English language and whatnot is not
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high on the list of the, on the priorities of.
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The brain-rotted... According to TikTok, we're in a literacy crisis.
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So everything's a crisis these days.
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That's a little, that's roughly akin to Budweiser coming out
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and telling everyone, you know, alcoholism's on the rise. Indeed.
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All right.
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So we'll do this. We'll do this damn you Hollywood style.
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Matchbox the movie is a 2026 American action comedy film
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directed by Sam Hargrave and written by Dave Kogschel based
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on the toy brand Matchbox by Mattel. It stars John Cena,
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Jessica Biel. I didn't realize Jessica Biel was still making movies.
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Sam Richardson.
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Yeah, occasionally. The low-budget stuff.
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Sam Richardson, who's in fucking everything now. Arturo Castro and
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Teyana Paris. In the film, CIA spy Sean Walker reunites
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with his childhood friends, only to be drugged and kidnapped
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by a group looking for a nuclear warhead like you do.
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I don't know about you, Robert, but I'm constantly misplacing
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my nuclear warheads.
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I know you keep asking, you keep texting me at
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random hours and I'm keep having to tell you, like,
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I don't live in your state. I can't help you.
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The CIA, the CIA believes Walker and his friends stole
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the nuclear weapon. So the group decides to re-steal the
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bomb and clear their names like you do. Uh, this
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came out on Apple TV on October and I went
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straight to Apple TV on October 9th. Um, yeah. And by,
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by Gaffrey, it received, uh, uh, negative reviews from critics though.
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I think there's room to talk about that, and we
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will shortly. The only other thing I'll say is it
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did have an in-theater release date, a limited one, October
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5th at AMC Lincoln Square, and I'm guessing because they're
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looking for nominations for best stunts.
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Now that stunts are going to be a category, yeah, maybe,
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but I can't imagine what.
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That's the only thing.
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That's the only thing.
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Stunts and editing would be the only thing.
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The editing's not good enough.
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Again, they can make the argument, but why don't you
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go ahead and try to cry, sob, question your life
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decisions through this plot synopsis.
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I mean, you kind of just did give the plot.
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There's nothing more to it than what you said.
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You can want it. I can jump into the movie
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if you want.
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Yeah, I can be quick. So back in the 90s,
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you know, it's the 90s because of the soundtrack. 80s, 90s.
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The kids, we have a bunch of kids, the misfits,
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the hang around a garage. There's the girl who's going
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to grow up to be Jessica Biel. There's the other kids.
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One of them likes to play with the heavy equipment
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cars who grows up to drive heavy equipment. One of
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them likes to play with the helicopter, grows up to
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be a news broadcaster who also flies helicopters.
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You know, I played with Transformers when I was a kid.
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I didn't grow up to be the head of a
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headmaster Transformer. I feel like I got gypped.
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Whoever wrote this was not writing your life, I suppose.
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I suppose. Go on.
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And again, there's the girl who's going to be Jessica Biel,
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who likes cars that
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who has a crush on her. This is kind of
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the extent of it. Many years later, they're all grown up.
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John Cena is a spy. He steals a nuclear warhead.
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Take some time off. You just stole a nuke. And
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right about then, Jessica Biel's uncle died, and he was
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kind of a father figure to the whole group. So
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John Cena goes back for the funeral. The group reunites,
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they get drugged, they wake up in a plane, and
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there's Corey Stoll yelling angrily about how the nuclear warhead
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is now missing. And they, so John Cena, of course,
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frees himself, frees his friends, sort of crashes the plane,
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they go hang out in various locations around the Middle
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East and whatnot, because we're getting money to film some
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of these things here from the tourism board. Yeah. They
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find out that John Cena's handler is actually the one
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who stole the nuke and she's trying to set him
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up as the bad guy to false flag us into
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a war so she can be head of the CIA
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instead of Corey Stoll because he's just a bald white
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guy and we don't need any more of them. And
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she's a strong black woman.
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And all bald white guys are terrible and they should
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be taken away.
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And she's a strong black woman so she's never wrong. Yeah.
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And credit to this movie for having a villain who's
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a strong black woman and nobody complaining.
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I checked.
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If you watch my TikTok, I check in with Cat
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Williams to make sure that there's no cooning about and
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that he approves. And me and Cat Williams are like this, okay?
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And we check in with each other to make sure
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the culture.
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Is behaving itself. You're slightly more intelligible than he is
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on any given day.
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Slightly.
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So there's some shenanigans. There's a big set piece where
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they go get the nuke back. The villain dies. John
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Cena gets together with Jessica Biel at the end, and
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Bob's your uncle.
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All right. I really was. That was one of the
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first things I thought of. I watched this with my
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kids and my daughter's friend who she had over for
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the weekend. I had to be a parent of a sleepover.
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Scary stuff.
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Good times. Yeah. So you're staying outside the door with
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a shotgun.
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I was staying in my bedroom with a shotgun. It
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was in my mouth. Anywho.
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There's only two ways that goes. You either... nope, keep moving,
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or okay, we're done here.
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So the first thing I said was, I was like,
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you know, it was nice to see a movie where
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the villain is a black woman, and nicer that nobody
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seems to be, you know, going on a Twitter campaign
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to complain about it. Like, why, you know.
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Well, when Twitter discovers this movie actually exists, there will be,
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but until then, enjoy the peace and quiet.
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It's... It's funny that I'm making the Cat Williams because
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that was Thursday. When I was talking to Sean about
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Vampire in Brooklyn is when I brought up the Cat
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Williams thing with regard to Kadeem Hardison's performance in that.
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That's what led to the TikTok. But it's an example
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of how hypersensitive I've become to the hypersensitivity of the
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culture via social media, complaining about things endlessly. I think
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there was a recent thing I saw where... Oh, gosh. Um... Oh, yeah, like,
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for a couple of days I was seeing videos, like,
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they're trying to, they, the mysterious they, the infamous they,
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the they-they's, the they-them's are trying to cancel, uh, Metallica.
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More of the them's than the, more of them's than
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the they's, but yeah. Sure.
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Shirts and skins, crips and bloods, whatever, Islanders, Yankees, Islanders, Yankees. Sports! Islanders, Rangers, Yankees, Mets. Anywho, um,
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There was a whole thing about, like, I guess whoever
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opened Macklemore, I think it is, who opened it for
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Ed Sheeran, made some sort of fucking pro-Palestinian statement somewhere
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in the world.
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Oh, yeah, that whole thing.
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All right. To which James Hetfield, old man Hetfield, gets
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out there and says, hey, we're Metallica. We once covered
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a misfit song about killing your mom and fucking kids
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or vice versa. But we're old now and we don't
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do much of that sort of thing. And we're just
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here to entertain you and hope you have a good time.
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We're not like that Macklemore guy. And all of a sudden,
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I guess there's like an internet campaign to fucking tell.
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You how good Matchbox is. First of all, this happened
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a few weeks ago. And everyone who's ever seen Metallica
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roundly dunked on every one of these morons who's like,
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they need to take a stand. Like, no, they don't.
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They need to play their music. And that's all they've
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been doing for 40 years.
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However old the story is, my point is there's so
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much of this You know, there's two or three Sidney
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Sweeney controversies among. There's, you know, there's the occasional murderer
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where you let go free. There's always something going on
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in the culture. So I'm looking at Matchbox and I'm
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just like, oh, this one didn't bother anyone. We're safe.
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We can rest now, Tony. We can rest.
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It is easy to hide in obscurity.
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Anyway, what did I actually think about the movie? I'm
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a little disappointed. And hang on.
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Hang on, hang on, hang on. What were your expectations?
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That's what I was getting to. Let me say this.
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As a family-friendly action-adventure movie starring a traditional-looking hero, I
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thought this was adequate. We all had a good time
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watching it. My son, who is a little version of you,
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was like, this is kind of a pointless movie, but
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it wasn't unenjoyable. And he marched off with his nose
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in the air.
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The two girls were just like, this is fine. We're
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just happy to be here. And that was that. And
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that's about the appropriate response to Matchbox, the movie. Again,
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I watched it and I was like, this is perfectly
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well-written stupidity. This is about the tenor of silly action
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movie that I kind of expect. I guess what frustrated me, though,
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was I thought since Matchbox is a car toy, right?
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You buy individual cars or you buy play sets with
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ramps and stuff and you put the cars on them.
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And I know this because I did this with my
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son when he was a little kid. He had an
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entire collection of Hot Wheels and Matchbox toys and you
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would buy the accessories for them and you would race
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them around town. And when I was a kid, I
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also had these things like the little town play sets
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and you would go in and out of the garage
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and up and down the ramps and into the car wash.
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I like that toys back in my day were mostly
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about doing errands. I'm going to drive my car to
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the mechanic. I'm going to drive my car to the
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car wash. This is fun. I'm doing adulting as a child.
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then you just let the child's imagination do stuff. Now
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children have no imagination because they've outsourced it to the AI.
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So anyway, I'm looking at a movie called Matchbox the Movie,
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and my first thought, this is going to be like
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The Fast and the Furious or Gone in 60 Seconds
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or The Italian Job. You know, we're going to be
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doing a lot of fast cars and a lot of
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high-speed driving. And maybe we'll do a Fast and the
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Furious thing in Dubai where we drive from one building
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to another.
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They did not have the budget for even anything close
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to that.
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So maybe we'll do some fun stunts. And we're limited
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to four vehicles that represent, like, the kinds of vehicles
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you could get with Matchbox. You could get a race car.
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You could get a construction car, you could get a motorcycle,
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or you could get an aerial vehicle. And it's like,
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I understand they had to extend the brand outwards from cars,
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kind of like with Transformers, where we went beyond jets
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and cars. But I figured the movie would hyper-focus on
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the cars, because that's the selling point. The fact that
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we micro-focus on four types of vehicles... And then those
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four vehicles are our four protagonists' personalities. I was like,
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this is further dumb than I thought it would be.
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And this is the part that's disappointing. Again, I was
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expecting something like The Fast and the Furious, where there
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would be a lot of fast car driving and a
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lot of cars, and you don't get that. It's the
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kind of spy movie for kids that Dave Bautista was
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in a few years ago. Um, it's mostly... It's mostly, like,
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just a spy movie, and if you took the Matchbox
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stuff out of it, you would have lost nothing. Yep.
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And that's my biggest complaint about this movie, is.
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You wanted more product placement in your brand-sponsored movie?
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Well, you wouldn't do a Barbie movie and not feature, like...
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And just... You wouldn't... You wouldn't feature a Barbie movie,
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but it's, you know, but it's Zooey Deschanel and she's
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living with three guys. Like.
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They absolutely would, but.
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No, they wouldn't. This is my point. That was New Girl.
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They didn't call it Barbie. Like, don't call this Matchbox
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the movie when that's not really what you're doing. You're
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like forcefully inserting this thing there and then quickly, just
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as quickly forgetting about it. And then occasionally you say
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like the Matchbox gang. to remind people that this is
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Matchbox the movie, but this is no more Matchbox than,
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you know, than we are fucking the State of the
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Union address. It's like, yeah, it's people talking, but that's
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about the only similarity. Other than that, I mean, I'm
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sure you hated it and you're going to whip through
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your 20 grievances that you're going to nail to the
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church door. But, I mean, for me, it was like,
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This is meant for a wide audience. It met that criteria.
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It was meant for children and their parents to enjoy.
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It met that criteria. Everybody is giving their level best
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performance for the material that they're working with. So is
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it going to make my best of the year? No.
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Is it the worst thing I saw this year? No.
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It was a bland vanilla children's spy movie with some
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cars and one, count them, one good car sequence, which
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you have to wait for the entire... This is the
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Surf Dracula thing, where instead of peppering the movie with... Like,
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the way a Mission Impossible movie has set pieces along
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the way that escalate, we're doing a car thing here
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and a helicopter thing here, and then, you know, and
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over here we're going to chase a submarine with a jet.
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You know... that just escalates to like insanity. This, it's
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just fighting, fighting, fighting, fighting, fighting, spy stuff, pretty gowns,
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nice suits. And then finally at the very end of
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the movie, a big ass highway chase scene, which the
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highway chase scene I thought was fun. And I think
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it was well executed. And it's the only, it is
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the only excellent thing in the movie is, and if
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you're going to remember any of it at all, and
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I'm sure you won't, it's the only thing that is
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remarkably memorable in the movie. Got thoughts?
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Yeah, this sucks.
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All right, everybody. Good night.
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Hang on. John Cena is, you know, a mostly competent
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lead for this kind of thing, but he's not going
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to do anything interesting or
special or memorable or Anything
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above competent. I'm with you that like the whole gimmick of, man,
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this is, these are the toys we played with. So
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naturally we grew up to be similar to have these
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be parts of our lives and personalities. And no God,
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this is like Saturday morning cartoon level writing, not even
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good Saturday morning cartoons.
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I know it'd be good to your mother.
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The plot, such as it is, is like if you
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took a generic Fast and the Furious movie with true lies,
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stripped out everything that makes either of those potentially interesting,
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put it in a blender and told an AI to
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recombine it, you'd probably get about this. The stunt work
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is solid. Not great, but solid. The big highway chase
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at the end is fine, but By that point, you're
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just so bored with the entire proposition that you don't
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actually care that you've reached the part of the movie
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that's fine. Yeah. It meanders. There's not much of a plot.
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There's not much of a story. There's no emotional arcs
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to be had in any sort of meaningful capacity.
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I mean, John Cena's arc is he learns to trust
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his friends. Because you see, his emotional injury at the
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beginning of the movie was he didn't have enough courage
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to ask a pretty girl out And then his father
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moved him away from home. So he learned that he
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must always be alone, like Batman.
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Because I'm sure nothing happened to the 12-year-old in the
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intervening couple of decades between we had to move, sorry,
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and now I am the wounded spy.
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Is that what happened to you, Robert? Every move was
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a wound, and now you feel like you must walk
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the earth alone like Bruce Banner so that no one
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may ever know about the Hulk inside you.
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I mean, there's a real argument to be made about
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the nature of relocating that many times, but no.
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Let me complete the sentence for you. No, you asshole.
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I don't need to interrelate with anybody yet.
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No.
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In the sense that it contributes to the tapestry of
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experiences that help make up the individual that I am
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sure but.
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Let's put it this way if they were going to
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attach that much weight to it we needed more than
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a cut you know than a flash.
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Forward like his like they have to move because his
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mom dies or something like no no his dad got
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a new job no no like if you wanted to
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make it that serious again that's what you have to
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do it's not just I got a better job or
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move into a bigger house in a better neighborhood Be happy.
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Is there a reason why this handsome, felt this handsome
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child couldn't make new friends? Like, and then we moved,
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and we moved to this neighborhood and I was, and
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they all, they said I was ugly is what happened.
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And I had no friends and the girls wouldn't like me.
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And like, fuck, what happened to you?
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Yeah. So none of that really.
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So he has to come home and learn to trust
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his friends was the end of that sentence.
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Yeah. Jessica Biel's probably a little bit too close to
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the girl boss archetype in this one. Which is a shame,
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because she didn't need to be that, but.
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Why they introduced her as somebody who races cars and
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then abandoned it, I have no idea.
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I don't know either, and she's, like, constantly getting her way,
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and there's at least three scenes where everyone else talks
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about how great she is, and this is the things that...
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These are the things that, like, okay, we're checking out
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of this, because no. No. No, it's not very good.
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It's not really worth your time. It's maybe passably acceptable
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second screen viewing or background noise while you're doing something
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of significantly more.
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Well, I actually want to argue with you about that
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because I actually don't think this is a good second
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screen viewing. This isn't explaining the plot to you constantly.
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Like you actually have to pay attention to this movie.
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I'm just very used... Maybe this is just me. I'm
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used to my background noise or second screen stuff not
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doing what Netflix does. And I just accept that if
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I miss something, I miss something. I can change. I
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can go back. I can watch. Okay. If you're one
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of the people who just can't... I don't know if
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you can say can't multitask, but who, even if you
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were just watching the movie, still need the plot explained
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00:26:57.799 --> 00:27:00.490
to you every 20 seconds because your brain is dead...
478
00:27:01.829 --> 00:27:03.269
then there's no helping you to begin with.
479
00:27:06.950 --> 00:27:08.809
There's no point in belaboring this. Is there anything else
480
00:27:08.829 --> 00:27:09.529
about Matchbox?
481
00:27:11.769 --> 00:27:13.609
It's not very good.
482
00:27:15.029 --> 00:27:18.049
Honestly, if they were going to do this movie, this
483
00:27:18.109 --> 00:27:19.869
is the wrong movie to make. They should have done
484
00:27:19.950 --> 00:27:23.970
something like The Italian Job, Gone in 60 Seconds, any
485
00:27:24.269 --> 00:27:31.390
one of the four, five, or six of the... Five, six,
486
00:27:31.430 --> 00:27:35.730
seven of the Fast and the Furious movies. Wacky Races.
487
00:27:36.509 --> 00:27:39.170
You know, something like that. Like, this needed to be
488
00:27:39.359 --> 00:27:43.559
filled with cars driving around a lot. This was the
489
00:27:43.720 --> 00:27:44.500
wrong movie to make.
490
00:27:45.839 --> 00:27:47.940
I don't disagree with you. But I was always a
491
00:27:47.960 --> 00:27:49.599
Hot Wheels guy, not a Matchbox guy.
492
00:27:49.619 --> 00:27:52.700
What the fuck was the difference? That they just sold cars?
493
00:27:53.470 --> 00:27:53.849
I don't know.
494
00:27:54.509 --> 00:27:56.950
Like, it's just two brands of the same deal.
495
00:27:57.650 --> 00:27:59.109
Pretty much, yeah. Yeah.
496
00:27:59.980 --> 00:28:01.059
The Islanders and the Rangers.
497
00:28:01.579 --> 00:28:06.000
Those are pretty close to the same thing.
498
00:28:06.019 --> 00:28:08.109
I'm going to start annoying the New York fans.
499
00:28:08.680 --> 00:28:10.990
We don't have any New York fans.
500
00:28:13.289 --> 00:28:19.519
Alright, let's get into Animals. The Animals. This is an
501
00:28:19.559 --> 00:28:20.099
interesting one.
502
00:28:20.579 --> 00:28:22.599
This is the worst movie of these three, by the way.
503
00:28:23.339 --> 00:28:26.900
Animals is a 2026 American crime
thriller film. Directed by
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00:28:26.960 --> 00:28:31.799
Ben Affleck and written by Affleck, Conroe, McIntyre, and Billy Ray.
505
00:28:32.119 --> 00:28:37.660
It stars Affleck, Kerry Washington, Gillian Anderson, Adriana Paz, Ray Fisher,
506
00:28:38.289 --> 00:28:44.150
with Luis Gerardo Mendez and Steven Yun. It is about
507
00:28:44.170 --> 00:28:48.710
a wealthy mayoral candidate, Mark Kimball, who finds themselves unearthing
508
00:28:48.750 --> 00:28:51.890
dark secrets when they go to extreme measures to pay
509
00:28:51.910 --> 00:28:57.960
their kidnapped son's ransom. Released in October, received generally negative reviews.
510
00:28:59.460 --> 00:29:01.509
This doesn't look like it was released in theaters ever,
511
00:29:01.549 --> 00:29:04.849
thank God. All right, so go ahead, Robert, see if
512
00:29:04.890 --> 00:29:07.509
you can find your way through this morass of a plot.
513
00:29:08.970 --> 00:29:15.049
Yeah, we're following Ben Affleck, who is an independent candidate
514
00:29:15.130 --> 00:29:21.609
for the mayor of Los Angeles. He is... Self-funding this,
515
00:29:21.950 --> 00:29:25.569
and it's starting to become a strain because running for
516
00:29:25.609 --> 00:29:27.900
public office is expensive, and if you don't have one
517
00:29:27.920 --> 00:29:30.539
of the two major political parties here in the United
518
00:29:30.579 --> 00:29:34.799
States at your back, then it's really.
519
00:29:34.940 --> 00:29:36.289
Can I put something up screen for one second?
520
00:29:36.369 --> 00:29:39.190
I know what you're going to put up there. No, don't. Okay.
521
00:29:39.269 --> 00:29:39.970
Just ignore.
522
00:29:40.029 --> 00:29:40.099
It.
523
00:29:40.190 --> 00:29:40.619
Okay.
524
00:29:40.670 --> 00:29:42.390
That is not behavior that should be rewarded.
525
00:29:43.279 --> 00:29:46.759
You got it. Moving on.
526
00:29:46.799 --> 00:29:49.440
So he's married to Kerry Washington. They have a kid.
527
00:29:49.480 --> 00:29:52.059
She's having an affair like you do. He's stressed out
528
00:29:52.099 --> 00:29:55.660
because he's running for office and the election's coming up
529
00:29:55.700 --> 00:30:00.299
and it's close, but he's behind. And Steven Yeun is
530
00:30:00.319 --> 00:30:07.460
his campaign advisor. And then on Halloween, because it was
531
00:30:07.500 --> 00:30:11.700
released in October, they get a message from someone saying,
532
00:30:11.740 --> 00:30:13.220
I have kidnapped your child.
533
00:30:13.619 --> 00:30:15.380
Yes, technically now this is a Halloween movie.
534
00:30:17.299 --> 00:30:22.619
Technically, yes. And I want $ 7 million. And eventually the
535
00:30:22.640 --> 00:30:26.109
kid wanders home going, what's going on? And they go, ha,
536
00:30:26.609 --> 00:30:29.720
you don't have our kid. And the kidnapper goes, oh, crap,
537
00:30:29.740 --> 00:30:33.920
what kid do I have? And it turns out he
538
00:30:34.039 --> 00:30:38.940
accidentally stole the kid of their nanny slash grounds nanny
539
00:30:38.980 --> 00:30:46.309
and groundskeeper who are, you know, immigrants because immigrants in
540
00:30:46.329 --> 00:30:49.430
Los Angeles, you get it? Immigrants, Los Angeles, whole thing.
541
00:30:50.769 --> 00:30:53.049
And I don't understand. Please take the next hour and
542
00:30:53.069 --> 00:30:54.049
explain it to me.
543
00:30:54.390 --> 00:30:58.170
Let's not. And they've called Gillian Anderson because she's kind
544
00:30:58.210 --> 00:31:02.910
of a political fixer. And we spend way too long
545
00:31:02.950 --> 00:31:05.490
debating what to do and arguing about how we approach
546
00:31:05.539 --> 00:31:09.380
these things. And eventually they decide, fine, we will pay you.
547
00:31:09.400 --> 00:31:12.500
And their secrets come out to each other. Him that
548
00:31:12.519 --> 00:31:15.460
he's over leveraged their finances and her that she's having
549
00:31:15.500 --> 00:31:19.400
an affair. And you know the movie decided that Ben
550
00:31:19.480 --> 00:31:21.700
Affleck's crime is the much more severe one of the
551
00:31:21.740 --> 00:31:25.690
two with how the characters react to everything. Mm-hmm. Because
552
00:31:25.869 --> 00:31:30.450
infidelity is nothing in this day and age. Kerry Washington
553
00:31:30.490 --> 00:31:32.509
is a strong black woman. She should be allowed to
554
00:31:33.650 --> 00:31:39.680
sow her wild oats. And inevitably, the kidnappers die in
555
00:31:39.740 --> 00:31:41.759
a shootout in the Los Angeles River. We have one
556
00:31:41.799 --> 00:31:44.480
of the single worst instances of CGI and editing I've
557
00:31:44.519 --> 00:31:47.809
ever seen when the Kidnappers kick the kid down the
558
00:31:48.029 --> 00:31:55.470
side of the embankment in the wagon. It's comical. I
559
00:31:55.519 --> 00:31:58.039
don't know how he gets launched. The CGI blob is
560
00:31:58.140 --> 00:32:04.279
launched and Ben Affleck catches him. Again, the kidnappers are killed,
561
00:32:04.460 --> 00:32:08.569
as is Gillian Anderson, which makes life easier for... Ben Affleck,
562
00:32:08.589 --> 00:32:10.650
because she's the one who organized this, and she was
563
00:32:10.690 --> 00:32:13.849
going to be able to then blackmail him into doing things.
564
00:32:14.009 --> 00:32:16.390
His political aspirations continued to climb all the way to
565
00:32:16.410 --> 00:32:22.549
the White House, you understand. The White House. So they
566
00:32:22.589 --> 00:32:24.609
wind up breaking the news that a lot of this happened.
567
00:32:24.650 --> 00:32:27.130
They tell the story where Ben Affleck's the hero. The
568
00:32:27.170 --> 00:32:29.099
immigrants get the money that was going to be used
569
00:32:29.130 --> 00:32:31.380
to pay off the kidnappers, and they return to Mexico,
570
00:32:31.400 --> 00:32:33.259
because nothing bad can happen to you in Mexico with
571
00:32:33.259 --> 00:32:38.769
$ 7 million in unmarked bills. And Ben Affleck is elected
572
00:32:38.809 -->
00:32:42.849
and starts exploring running for the presidency. And this is
573
00:32:42.930 --> 00:32:47.210
where we end. This is not a good movie.
574
00:32:48.970 --> 00:32:51.240
Yeah, this is supposed to be one of those old
575
00:32:51.319 --> 00:32:59.200
school boilerplate dramas. Everything is high tension. It's kind of
576
00:32:59.720 --> 00:33:06.660
shot like a play. There's very few different It's mostly
577
00:33:06.880 --> 00:33:08.660
in the house, and it's a lot of people just
578
00:33:08.720 --> 00:33:12.200
talking to each other. But emotions are running high, and
579
00:33:12.240 --> 00:33:15.930
everything's getting intense. That's the whole movie.
580
00:33:16.490 --> 00:33:19.450
It sure would have been nice if they acted like that.
581
00:33:22.650 --> 00:33:23.890
I mean, look, I'm not going to say I love
582
00:33:23.910 --> 00:33:26.119
this movie. It's not the worst thing I've seen. It's
583
00:33:26.130 --> 00:33:29.740
not the best. It's just kind of like, all right.
584
00:33:32.759 --> 00:33:37.809
It's a very Netflix-y movie. Oh, yes. Where Netflix really
585
00:33:37.849 --> 00:33:43.640
does specialize in the minimal location, bunch of people talking
586
00:33:44.299 --> 00:33:46.680
kind of a thing. And sometimes it works and sometimes
587
00:33:46.720 --> 00:33:54.940
it doesn't. This is one of those where I can
588
00:33:54.980 --> 00:33:59.369
kind of see when they were writing this, what Ben
589
00:33:59.410 --> 00:34:02.769
Affleck was wanting to talk about. He's wanting to talk
590
00:34:02.809 --> 00:34:06.450
about the uncomfortable positions you have to put yourself in
591
00:34:06.650 --> 00:34:10.150
as you try to achieve power in this country, that
592
00:34:10.170 --> 00:34:14.030
there's always going to be people like once, once you
593
00:34:14.070 --> 00:34:17.300
put yourself out there, whether as celebrity or as politician
594
00:34:17.440 --> 00:34:20.420
or as athlete, there'll always be willing people willing to
595
00:34:20.460 --> 00:34:23.559
take a shot at you to extract something from you.
596
00:34:23.579 --> 00:34:28.760
I think he also through the Kerry Washington character also
597
00:34:28.800 --> 00:34:33.130
talks about how in order to achieve greatness in this world,
598
00:34:33.690 --> 00:34:36.590
sacrifices have to be made and some people can't handle
599
00:34:36.650 --> 00:34:40.039
the weight of the sacrifice. So, like, maybe you're not
600
00:34:40.639 --> 00:34:43.159
around as much of your family as you should be.
601
00:34:43.639 --> 00:34:46.420
Maybe you're inviting too much of the media into your
602
00:34:46.460 --> 00:34:49.099
life more than they should be. I mean, you know,
603
00:34:49.300 --> 00:34:51.519
this sort of thing came up with the Carter daughters.
604
00:34:52.179 --> 00:34:55.380
This poor Chelsea Clinton was, like, abused by the press.
605
00:34:56.010 --> 00:34:59.489
You know, the Obamas specifically kept their daughters away from
606
00:34:59.530 --> 00:35:04.019
the press and it was a very, very meticulously kept
607
00:35:04.099 --> 00:35:06.920
veneer so that nobody could see anything else about those
608
00:35:06.980 --> 00:35:09.420
kids that the obamas didn't want them to see i
609
00:35:09.559 --> 00:35:12.039
don't remember what happened with bush's kids that that's how
610
00:35:12.179 --> 00:35:15.159
like it was like like poor chelsea clinton was like
611
00:35:15.820 --> 00:35:20.539
the warning uh label for like what not to do
612
00:35:21.340 --> 00:35:24.590
um and so i think like i think after that
613
00:35:24.750 --> 00:35:25.849
you know bush.
614
00:35:25.630 --> 00:35:27.969
Well in the case of hw bush's kids grew up
615
00:35:27.989 --> 00:35:29.650
to be politicians well.
616
00:35:29.550 --> 00:35:33.690
I was talking about w um My point is, like...
617
00:35:35.489 --> 00:35:37.869
I think Ben Affleck was trying to explore all those things,
618
00:35:37.949 --> 00:35:40.630
but he also has to tell the story, so... And
619
00:35:40.650 --> 00:35:43.730
I think that's, like, the biggest problem with animals for me, is...
620
00:35:43.550 --> 00:35:47.019
I think all of those things are worth talking about.
621
00:35:47.840 --> 00:35:51.840
You probably didn't need the ransom plot. You especially didn't
622
00:35:51.880 --> 00:35:56.340
need the ransom plot of your gardener, your illegal alien gardener,
623
00:35:57.039 --> 00:36:02.090
and his wife, who, like... Kerry Washington's like weirdly attached to.
624
00:36:03.179 --> 00:36:07.119
Yeah. That was a really, the irony of like Kerry
625
00:36:07.179 --> 00:36:09.340
Washington being attached to them when she doesn't even speak
626
00:36:09.400 --> 00:36:15.219
Spanish and Mark and Ben Affleck's character is pretty fluent. Um, yeah,
627
00:36:15.699 --> 00:36:17.929
it's a bad decision.
628
00:36:20.010 --> 00:36:24.150
So like, I think the subject matter is worthy. I
629
00:36:25.429 --> 00:36:30.659
think the execution is really poor. Um, better version of
630
00:36:30.719 --> 00:36:32.420
what they were trying to do here is the very
631
00:36:32.480 --> 00:36:38.440
first episode, the very first season of Black Mirror, where....
632
00:36:39.429 --> 00:36:41.989
The first one of theater? Yeah.
633
00:36:43.170 --> 00:36:46.349
You know, I have kidnapped so-and-so, and if you don't
634
00:36:46.409 --> 00:36:48.449
fuck a pig on live television, I'm gonna, you know,
635
00:36:48.489 --> 00:36:50.010
I'm gonna start sending her back to you in pieces.
636
00:36:51.090 --> 00:36:53.489
And because technology is what it is, they can't find
637
00:36:53.530 --> 00:36:55.989
the person, and then, like, the Prime Minister doesn't know
638
00:36:56.010 --> 00:36:59.019
what to do with himself. And finally ends up just
639
00:36:59.420 --> 00:37:02.199
fucking the pig and they let her go and they
640
00:37:02.219 --> 00:37:04.489
never did anything to her. You know?
641
00:37:04.550 --> 00:37:07.829
And I
think he's actually released before he, yeah.
642
00:37:08.510 --> 00:37:10.289
But I want to say like, like the perpetrator actually
643
00:37:10.309 --> 00:37:11.969
like kills himself. Cause like the point of it was
644
00:37:12.010 --> 00:37:13.469
to see if he could think, do it or whatever.
645
00:37:14.170 --> 00:37:14.650
Yeah.
646
00:37:14.710 --> 00:37:19.679
Um, my point being that like, there wasn't, this has
647
00:37:19.699 --> 00:37:27.250
been dealt with better other ways. Um, So then you
648
00:37:27.289 --> 00:37:29.489
flop the needle on this. You're like, well, what if
649
00:37:29.530 --> 00:37:33.150
you just focus on it's a kidnapping plot with very famous,
650
00:37:33.349 --> 00:37:34.150
important people.
651
00:37:34.630 --> 00:37:37.070
Oh, we can talk for ages about how this is
652
00:37:37.110 --> 00:37:38.630
a bad kidnapping story.
653
00:37:39.130 --> 00:37:41.469
Well, that's my point. It's like, okay, but then you
654
00:37:41.510 --> 00:37:45.329
really have nothing. The only reason why you have something
655
00:37:46.590 --> 00:37:50.309
in this movie is the stuff with Kerry Washington and
656
00:37:50.429 --> 00:37:53.650
Ben Affleck and her cheating is something to talk about.
657
00:37:53.829 --> 00:37:56.519
It's a very real thing. And I think there's a
658
00:37:56.539 --> 00:37:58.679
movie to be made out of that. The stuff about
659
00:37:59.400 --> 00:38:03.420
wanting to be mayor and then president and how that
660
00:38:03.460 --> 00:38:05.559
affects your family and how that affects you and the
661
00:38:05.599 --> 00:38:08.489
kind of person it turns you into, I think there's
662
00:38:08.550 --> 00:38:13.650
something to talk about there. But if you start to
663
00:38:13.690 --> 00:38:15.690
talk about the actual action of the movie, which is
664
00:38:15.730 --> 00:38:19.349
this kidnapping plot, the kidnapping plot's stupid. And then they
665
00:38:19.409 --> 00:38:25.159
introduce the female version of fucking... Harvey Keitel from Reservoir Dogs,
666
00:38:25.179 --> 00:38:29.960
you know, so in walks the wolf. And because Gillian
667
00:38:30.099 --> 00:38:34.239
Anderson was told to play this character like she's dead, like,
668
00:38:34.389 --> 00:38:40.030
there's nothing there either. Like, what she's doing is not virtuous.
669
00:38:40.989 --> 00:38:41.769
Not even close.
670
00:38:42.130 --> 00:38:44.429
She's like, I'll save you, but then I own your soul.
671
00:38:44.530 --> 00:38:48.590
That needs to be dastardly. That needed to be malevolent.
672
00:38:49.110 --> 00:38:51.369
And she just kind of plays it like, alright, it's
673
00:38:51.389 --> 00:38:54.230
a This is a Tuesday. This is what I do.
674
00:38:55.469 --> 00:38:56.989
And you're going to do it because everybody does it.
675
00:38:57.650 --> 00:39:03.400
And there's no problem here. There's no drama. This is
676
00:39:03.480 --> 00:39:12.659
a weirdly artificially tense movie. All the tension is... All
677
00:39:12.679 --> 00:39:15.769
the tension in any movie is manufactured. That's the nature
678
00:39:15.789 --> 00:39:20.050
of creating fiction. So when I say this is very artificial...
679
00:39:20.159 --> 00:39:24.739
There's no naturally occurring tension based on anything you, the viewer,
680
00:39:24.780 --> 00:39:28.280
have to worry about going on in Animals. It's all, like,
681
00:39:28.320 --> 00:39:29.460
it's tense because we said it's tense.
682
00:39:29.920 --> 00:39:35.059
Yeah, and I'm like, this is just... The movie, like, yes,
683
00:39:35.119 --> 00:39:38.409
this is a tense scene. Really? Because you've not earned that,
684
00:39:38.449 --> 00:39:40.389
and nothing about what's going on says that it is.
685
00:39:40.809 --> 00:39:44.210
And then, like, Steven Yeun's character, you know, if you're
686
00:39:44.230 --> 00:39:47.619
going to make him very, like, wag the dog-ish... If
687
00:39:47.699 --> 00:39:49.659
you're going to make him De Niro's character from Wag
688
00:39:49.679 --> 00:39:55.440
the Dog, or Michael J. Fox's character from Spin City,
689
00:39:56.360 --> 00:40:00.659
then he needs to also be slimy. This is one
690
00:40:00.679 --> 00:40:04.440
of those movies where there needed to be no likable people.
691
00:40:04.960 --> 00:40:08.860
Except for maybe Ben Affleck, or then there's nobody to
692
00:40:08.909 --> 00:40:09.280
root for.
693
00:40:09.699 --> 00:40:14.309
Well, there's something to be said for... The problem is, look,
694
00:40:14.349 --> 00:40:17.320
if we're just going to talk about the kidnapping... component
695
00:40:17.340 --> 00:40:28.150
of this there's about three good kidnapping movies and one
696
00:40:28.170 --> 00:40:31.559
of them stars mel gibson in the 90s it's called
697
00:40:31.619 --> 00:40:38.079
ransom it's a surprisingly deep cast actually you have gibson
698
00:40:38.119 --> 00:40:41.519
and gary sinise and donnie walberg and a handful of
699
00:40:41.559 --> 00:40:46.719
other people And the other is probably Proof of Life
700
00:40:46.760 --> 00:40:49.699
with Russell Crowe and Meg Ryan, which is a different
701
00:40:49.719 --> 00:40:53.269
kind of kidnapping. That's somewhere in South America. I want
702
00:40:53.289 --> 00:40:56.250
to say Columbia, but don't quote me. And the guerrillas
703
00:40:56.269 --> 00:41:00.710
kidnap Americans there all the time. So much so that
704
00:41:00.769 --> 00:41:03.179
kidnapping is part of a business. It's a whole thing. Anyway,
705
00:41:04.539 --> 00:41:08.119
one of the things that those stories do fundamentally understand,
706
00:41:08.139 --> 00:41:12.739
to one degree or another, they fumble the ball in
707
00:41:12.760 --> 00:41:16.829
different places. But what's going on with the kidnappers is
708
00:41:16.869 --> 00:41:22.469
an important component of what makes these stories tick. This
709
00:41:22.550 --> 00:41:26.460
movie never puts us over there, never introduces us to
710
00:41:26.500 --> 00:41:29.739
the kidnappers, never
shows us what's going on over there.
711
00:41:29.860 --> 00:41:36.389
And if you choose not to do that, that can
712
00:41:36.449 --> 00:41:38.570
be made to work in your favor, to be very clear.
713
00:41:39.900 --> 00:41:42.059
But you have to be a lot defter with what
714
00:41:42.099 --> 00:41:45.000
you're doing than this, where they don't have the narrative
715
00:41:45.039 --> 00:41:49.820
momentum or the story to support it. This is a
716
00:41:49.889 --> 00:41:52.150
better episode of television, if you're going to do it
717
00:41:52.190 --> 00:41:56.710
in this perspective, than it is a 90-minute movie, or
718
00:41:56.750 --> 00:41:57.849
however long this thing was.
719
00:41:57.869 --> 00:42:00.570
I was going to say, the West Wing handled this
720
00:42:00.630 --> 00:42:01.639
very same thing better.
721
00:42:01.659 --> 00:42:07.480
Yeah. Yeah. And that's kind of where this movie winds
722
00:42:07.539 --> 00:42:10.849
up falling flat is there's nothing here really worth engaging with.
723
00:42:10.869 --> 00:42:14.789
There's nothing here to draw you in. The performances are
724
00:42:14.809 --> 00:42:17.730
a little uneven, very up and down in ways that
725
00:42:17.750 --> 00:42:22.289
you wouldn't necessarily expect. You don't get invested in the
726
00:42:22.650 --> 00:42:26.769
kidnapping plot. You don't get invested in Ben Affleck's ambitions.
727
00:42:26.789 --> 00:42:30.710
You don't get invested in anything. It's just a sequence
728
00:42:30.750 --> 00:42:35.090
of events. Hmm. frequently that barely connect to each other
729
00:42:35.130 --> 00:42:36.570
in any sort of real capacity.
730
00:42:37.070 --> 00:42:39.070
Like if I was sitting down with Ben Affleck and
731
00:42:39.090 --> 00:42:40.929
he was pitching me this movie, I'd be like, can
732
00:42:40.969 --> 00:42:45.190
you just write about your frustrations with politicians and famous
733
00:42:45.230 --> 00:42:50.699
people and, you know, feeling you can be extracted from
734
00:42:50.820 --> 00:42:53.380
any person at any time, especially with the way technology is.
735
00:42:53.699 --> 00:42:56.239
Just write that movie. Don't worry about the, don't do
736
00:42:56.280 --> 00:42:59.119
the kidnapping stuff. Just write that movie. And then if
737
00:42:59.139 --> 00:43:02.139
there's nothing else compelling about what you've written here, then
738
00:43:02.219 --> 00:43:06.110
we can kind of tack on something else. Maybe it's
739
00:43:06.130 --> 00:43:12.030
a kidnapping plot. Maybe it's something else. But I think
740
00:43:12.050 --> 00:43:14.519
this movie suffers from a lack of cohesion.
741
00:43:14.539 --> 00:43:16.480
Oh, yeah.
742
00:43:17.519 --> 00:43:21.340
And from somebody... I don't think the strands are very
743
00:43:21.380 --> 00:43:22.059
well integrated.
744
00:43:23.230 --> 00:43:24.750
Not even close. I mean, you can even see it
745
00:43:24.809 --> 00:43:27.510
under your little box there. The tagline for this is
746
00:43:27.570 --> 00:43:30.369
power can't protect you, but Ben Affleck's not a powerful
747
00:43:30.429 --> 00:43:34.199
person in the movie. He's running for office, and he's
748
00:43:34.239 --> 00:43:38.059
independently wealthy. But he's never established to be a person
749
00:43:38.119 --> 00:43:42.139
of prior political power. He's not a corrupt mob boss.
750
00:43:42.159 --> 00:43:45.039
He's not anything like that. He's just a dude who's
751
00:43:45.059 --> 00:43:45.940
a successful lawyer.
752
00:43:46.239 --> 00:43:48.090
Yeah, I think he's just a lawyer. So he has
753
00:43:48.110 --> 00:43:49.530
a lot of money, and he's throwing a lot of
754
00:43:49.570 --> 00:43:52.300
his money into this campaign. or I think he's running
755
00:43:52.360 --> 00:43:53.139
as an independent.
756
00:43:53.539 --> 00:43:55.460
Yeah. Like that's the other thing is like, Oh, we
757
00:43:55.500 --> 00:43:57.800
don't want to try and say he's from one political
758
00:43:57.860 --> 00:44:00.139
party or the other that may get part of the
759
00:44:00.219 --> 00:44:01.760
audience to not tune in to begin with.
760
00:44:02.800 --> 00:44:05.769
Well, again, you can, you can talk about what it's
761
00:44:05.789 --> 00:44:06.989
like to run as an independent.
762
00:44:07.889 --> 00:44:10.849
That's a very interesting concept for a movie. And it's
763
00:44:10.869 --> 00:44:12.170
not enough. It's nowhere here.
764
00:44:12.730 --> 00:44:15.670
Like the Ross Perot story is actually really interesting.
765
00:44:15.690 --> 00:44:16.050
Oh yeah.
766
00:44:16.070 --> 00:44:18.739
You know, the stuff that like Ralph Nader went through
767
00:44:18.909 --> 00:44:24.969
as a green party candidate was interesting. you know, Schwarzenegger running,
768
00:44:25.090 --> 00:44:27.010
he ran as a Republican, but he, you know, but
769
00:44:27.050 --> 00:44:30.760
he came out of nowhere basically and ran on the,
770
00:44:30.820 --> 00:44:38.639
the recall election in California. Like Jesse Ventura actually is
771
00:44:38.679 --> 00:44:42.139
probably the best example of this. Jesse Ventura ran as
772
00:44:42.179 --> 00:44:44.340
an independent. He was the mayor of Brooklyn park. And
773
00:44:44.360 --> 00:44:45.980
then he ran for governor of Minnesota.
774
00:44:46.719 --> 00:44:48.619
Yeah. He, and the crazy thing about that is like,
775
00:44:49.239 --> 00:44:50.920
if you listen to him talk about the strategy when
776
00:44:50.940 --> 00:44:54.840
he's lucid enough to do so, he didn't announce that
777
00:44:54.880 --> 00:44:58.139
he was running because normally people announce at the very
778
00:44:58.179 --> 00:45:01.090
beginning of what would be the campaign. And then you
779
00:45:01.110 --> 00:45:06.250
spend all your time building. He announced like at the
780
00:45:06.309 --> 00:45:10.489
very last minute you could announce after the other two
781
00:45:10.530 --> 00:45:12.230
had kind of beat each other up for a while.
782
00:45:12.250 --> 00:45:14.010
And he said,
Hey, by the way, if you don't
783
00:45:14.030 --> 00:45:18.079
like those two right here, and Minnesota went, you know what?
784
00:45:18.260 --> 00:45:18.639
Why not?
785
00:45:19.849 --> 00:45:26.030
Yes, they voted none of the above. But that's my point. Like,
786
00:45:26.050 --> 00:45:28.610
you could have really drawn from the Jesse Ventura campaign
787
00:45:28.630 --> 00:45:31.010
because Jesse Ventura talked about how when you're running for
788
00:45:31.050 --> 00:45:34.340
an independent, nobody wants to ever give you money because
789
00:45:34.380 --> 00:45:37.320
a lot of the money stuff is entrenched to the
790
00:45:37.360 --> 00:45:39.940
two parties. Like, there's a lot of talk on TikTok
791
00:45:39.980 --> 00:45:41.699
right now about, like, why do we have the two-party system?
792
00:45:41.719 --> 00:45:42.039
It's dumb.
793
00:45:44.059 --> 00:45:47.769
The reality is that system became– first of all, there's
794
00:45:47.809 --> 00:45:49.670
nowhere in the Constitution that says there can only be
795
00:45:49.710 --> 00:45:53.849
two political parties. We have an adversarial system, which means
796
00:45:53.889 --> 00:46:01.030
more than one. What really solidified the entrenchment of Democrat
797
00:46:01.050 --> 00:46:06.260
and Republican was first-past-the-poll voting, which I forget which amendment
798
00:46:06.280 --> 00:46:10.360
that is, but– If you understand, like, political theory and
799
00:46:10.380 --> 00:46:12.760
what goes on, that's what really made it to be. Nope,
800
00:46:13.000 --> 00:46:14.500
it's two. That's it. That's all we get.
801
00:46:15.099 --> 00:46:17.280
If you talk to people who run as independents and,
802
00:46:17.500 --> 00:46:20.360
you know, people who run, frankly, as Republican or Democrats,
803
00:46:21.619 --> 00:46:25.269
there's more to running than just putting your name, getting
804
00:46:25.289 --> 00:46:27.170
your name on a ballot and going out there and
805
00:46:27.190 --> 00:46:30.409
making campaign speeches and, you know, shaking babies and kissing moms.
806
00:46:32.110 --> 00:46:33.710
Fundraising is its own skill.
807
00:46:34.369 --> 00:46:35.570
There's a machine behind.
808
00:46:36.130 --> 00:46:36.369
Oh, yeah.
809
00:46:36.969 --> 00:46:39.070
Behind them in a very entrenched machine. Like, you know,
810
00:46:39.570 --> 00:46:41.650
there's a lot of talk about, we got to pull
811
00:46:41.670 --> 00:46:44.989
the money out of, out of politics, which is laughable.
812
00:46:46.050 --> 00:46:48.860
Um, it would be nice, but there's no way to
813
00:46:48.940 --> 00:46:51.380
do it. This is one of those things like we
814
00:46:51.400 --> 00:46:53.260
need to get so much of this out of politics.
815
00:46:53.280 --> 00:46:57.550
Like guys, it would be nice if there, if there
816
00:46:57.570 --> 00:47:01.929
was not like lobbyists and have an outsized, uh, influence. I,
817
00:47:01.949 --> 00:47:05.219
I agree, but, there's no mechanism for doing it.
818
00:47:05.489 --> 00:47:05.730
Yeah.
819
00:47:05.969 --> 00:47:07.730
And you don't know what it would look like afterwards.
820
00:47:08.110 --> 00:47:10.829
Like we've tried doing campaign finance reform. It doesn't not,
821
00:47:12.809 --> 00:47:15.530
it ends up running against the first amendment. There's huge
822
00:47:15.570 --> 00:47:17.719
problems with it. And I don't think anybody really wants it.
823
00:47:18.179 --> 00:47:20.360
You know, we're both doing so well on this podcast
824
00:47:20.409 --> 00:47:24.340
and I quit the coughing. I don't know if there's
825
00:47:24.360 --> 00:47:25.650
a lot of people in Washington that really want it.
826
00:47:25.679 --> 00:47:28.159
I mean, Oh, no one in Washington wants it. They
827
00:47:28.199 --> 00:47:29.380
all benefit from it. Yeah.
828
00:47:29.440 --> 00:47:32.889
Like they, Exactly. They all benefit from it, so there's
829
00:47:32.929 --> 00:47:36.590
no real appetite to try to change it. So again,
830
00:47:36.610 --> 00:47:39.449
if Ben Affleck wanted to talk about those things and
831
00:47:39.489 --> 00:47:42.360
talk about them, why do you need this stupid fucking plot?
832
00:47:43.119 --> 00:47:49.360
Because you could have done an exposure to a common
833
00:47:49.420 --> 00:47:54.070
person and their gripes differently than what you did here,
834
00:47:54.909 --> 00:47:55.489
to make your point.
835
00:47:56.280 --> 00:47:58.659
They don't even talk about the gripes of the kidnappers
836
00:47:58.719 --> 00:48:01.500
in this case. We never really get into what they're
837
00:48:01.699 --> 00:48:04.820
after or why they're doing what they're doing or whatnot.
838
00:48:04.840 --> 00:48:06.599
Why they targeted him especially.
839
00:48:07.280 --> 00:48:12.449
Yeah, there's so much unexplored territory there. And if your
840
00:48:12.530 --> 00:48:18.349
goal was instead to foster a general attitude of paranoia
841
00:48:18.449 --> 00:48:21.710
and you never know and the world's a crazy place
842
00:48:21.730 --> 00:48:25.269
full of random violence and you may never know, this
843
00:48:25.369 --> 00:48:28.510
is not structured and constructed in a way to get
844
00:48:28.570 --> 00:48:31.199
that message across in any way shape form or fashion.
845
00:48:31.099 --> 00:48:33.280
I kept waiting for that to be a revelation like
846
00:48:33.320 --> 00:48:36.800
the reason why they picked on him well they do
847
00:48:36.860 --> 00:48:40.260
say at the beginning like I think like some guys
848
00:48:40.280 --> 00:48:43.670
like retail outlets shut down they.
849
00:48:42.949 --> 00:48:46.070
Imply it but it's never like stated right.
850
00:48:45.750 --> 00:48:49.190
And then I don't I didn't see the connection to
851
00:48:49.210 --> 00:48:54.389
Ben Affleck either there was never one made yeah The
852
00:48:54.429 --> 00:48:58.170
implication is that somehow Ben Affleck's fault, the economy crashed
853
00:48:58.190 --> 00:49:02.440
and this guy lost his store. Except
that the movie
854
00:49:02.480 --> 00:49:04.679
doesn't do a good enough job of really explaining that,
855
00:49:05.400 --> 00:49:11.679
or explaining why that's the case. The kidnappers sort of
856
00:49:11.739 --> 00:49:16.730
infer it, because the movie just wants to deal with us. Also,
857
00:49:17.239 --> 00:49:19.900
you gotta narrow some of the subject matter down here
858
00:49:19.920 --> 00:49:23.679
because this movie wants to talk about you know the
859
00:49:23.719 --> 00:49:29.000
price of fame uh the price of political ambition immigration
860
00:49:29.019 --> 00:49:33.260
gun control like like the list of fucking things this
861
00:49:33.320 --> 00:49:35.989
movie like wanted to talk about like slow the like
862
00:49:36.389 --> 00:49:37.449
narrow that list.
863
00:49:37.230 --> 00:49:40.219
Down Somehow Ben Affleck got most of the way through
864
00:49:40.239 --> 00:49:42.380
the writing process and then went, oh, there's all these
865
00:49:42.420 --> 00:49:44.219
things I wish to whine about. Well, let's write a
866
00:49:44.280 --> 00:49:48.320
bedroom scene where I express to my wife all the
867
00:49:48.360 --> 00:49:50.360
things that I, as Ben Affleck, wish to talk about.
868
00:49:51.179 --> 00:49:57.400
Yeah. This was kind of background noise for me. I
869
00:49:57.739 --> 00:50:00.559
was playing a game on my phone almost the entire
870
00:50:00.579 --> 00:50:03.960
way through this movie. This was one of those where, well,
871
00:50:04.079 --> 00:50:05.280
I put it on the list, so I guess we're
872
00:50:05.300 --> 00:50:07.760
going to talk about it, but You know, that's why
873
00:50:07.780 --> 00:50:10.420
I'm not normally when you bitch and complain like my kids,
874
00:50:11.119 --> 00:50:13.099
I just roll my eyes and I think about my
875
00:50:13.119 --> 00:50:15.760
life decisions tonight. I'm like, yeah, this one's on me.
876
00:50:21.130 --> 00:50:22.329
So anything else?
877
00:50:23.610 --> 00:50:27.530
No, this movie, this might make it up. It's inept
878
00:50:27.570 --> 00:50:28.429
in so many ways.
879
00:50:28.849 --> 00:50:30.269
Oh, are you really going to put this on your
880
00:50:30.309 --> 00:50:30.809
bottom five?
881
00:50:31.210 --> 00:50:34.739
It might. I don't know for sure. I have my
882
00:50:34.780 --> 00:50:37.260
list of possibles. I haven't actually, like, whittled it down
883
00:50:37.300 --> 00:50:38.679
to five yet. Gotcha.
884
00:50:38.940 --> 00:50:39.980
All right, let's talk about.
885
00:50:40.000 --> 00:50:42.119
I've got Mark. There's a whole other month of crap
886
00:50:42.139 --> 00:50:43.889
that may, in fact, make the list.
887
00:50:43.989 --> 00:50:45.909
There's a good chance of Violent Night 2 is going
888
00:50:45.969 --> 00:50:49.110
on mine, having not even seen the... only seen the trailers.
889
00:50:51.070 --> 00:50:53.070
And then there's a small part of me, because I
890
00:50:53.090 --> 00:50:55.690
like to tweak the internet's nipples, that wants to put
891
00:50:55.730 --> 00:50:56.929
Doomsday on my bottom five.
892
00:50:57.710 --> 00:51:00.510
If you don't like it, then, like, look, I'm happy
893
00:51:00.530 --> 00:51:03.280
to throw it on mine if I think the movie sucks. Yeah, well.
894
00:51:03.820 --> 00:51:09.219
We'll make Alexis cry. Speaking of making Alexis cry, Sacrifice.
895
00:51:10.219 --> 00:51:15.000
This is one of those Megan deals where it hit
896
00:51:15.019 --> 00:51:18.559
the festival circuit last year, but it got released to
897
00:51:18.579 --> 00:51:22.300
the public this year. So technically, it's a 2025 movie,
898
00:51:22.340 --> 00:51:24.849
but it debuted in 2026.
899
00:51:24.849 --> 00:51:27.710
It also has the lowest score on Rotten Tomatoes of
900
00:51:27.750 --> 00:51:29.230
anything that made the festival circuit.
901
00:51:29.969 --> 00:51:35.460
Yeah. Sacrifice is a 2025 action-adventure No, it isn't. Comedy.
902
00:51:35.699 --> 00:51:35.900
No.
903
00:51:36.199 --> 00:51:40.809
Drama film. Directed by Romaine Gavris, who co-wrote it with
904
00:51:40.869 --> 00:51:44.630
Will Arbery. It's an ensemble cast that features Chris Evans,
905
00:51:44.869 --> 00:51:50.449
Anya Taylor-Joy, Vincent Cassell, Sam Richardson, again, John Malkovich, and
906
00:51:50.550 --> 00:51:54.179
Salma Hayek. The film had its world premiere in the
907
00:51:54.639 --> 00:51:58.440
special presentation section of the 2025 Toronto International Film Festival.
908
00:51:59.079 --> 00:52:02.320
On September 6, 2025, it was released on Netflix in
909
00:52:02.340 --> 00:52:06.489
the United States and France. on October 16th, 2026, and
910
00:52:06.550 --> 00:52:10.659
received mixed reviews from critics. Yeah, mixed is about right.
911
00:52:11.199 --> 00:52:12.920
It did do a little bit of box office, because
912
00:52:12.940 --> 00:52:15.059
I guess it was in theaters here, there, and everywhere.
913
00:52:15.079 --> 00:52:32.130
It made $ 453, 104. Um... It is one of the lowest
914
00:52:32.170 --> 00:52:33.929
rated films of the year to have fulfilled at fall
915
00:52:33.949 --> 00:52:42.730
film festivals. Fantastic. All right, Robert. This is one of those...
916
00:52:43.659 --> 00:52:45.900
It's not quite Triangle of Sadness for me, but we're
917
00:52:45.920 --> 00:52:47.360
going to end up having a fist fight. I can
918
00:52:47.400 --> 00:52:47.800
see it now.
919
00:52:48.719 --> 00:52:50.179
You like this that much, huh?
920
00:52:50.719 --> 00:52:52.579
It's not going on my top ten. I'm not going
921
00:52:52.599 --> 00:52:54.099
to gush about it the way I did Triangle of
922
00:52:54.119 --> 00:52:56.400
Sadness or some of the other really silly independent movies
923
00:52:56.440 --> 00:52:59.780
I've watched. But I didn't hate it. And of the three,
924
00:52:59.840 --> 00:53:00.460
this is my favorite.
925
00:53:03.190 --> 00:53:04.969
We're not going to fist fight as much as you think.
926
00:53:05.389 --> 00:53:10.090
Of these three, I didn't like this one, but bizarrely,
927
00:53:10.150 --> 00:53:12.090
I wound up respecting it a little bit by the end.
928
00:53:12.880 --> 00:53:16.480
That's where I'm landing. This was at least an interesting picture. Like,
929
00:53:16.659 --> 00:53:20.300
not quite something I've ever seen of this nature before.
930
00:53:20.860 --> 00:53:23.300
And at this point, as long as you're not continually
931
00:53:23.360 --> 00:53:26.280
feeding me the kind of gruel we got with Matchbox,
932
00:53:27.059 --> 00:53:27.800
I'll fucking take it.
933
00:53:30.179 --> 00:53:33.679
So this movie opens with Anya Taylor-Joy and a bunch
934
00:53:33.719 --> 00:53:38.639
of other fanatics, you know, 20-somethings burning a woman alive
935
00:53:38.760 --> 00:53:42.300
after getting a prophecy that they have to sacrifice people
936
00:53:42.320 --> 00:53:45.380
to a volcano to stop it from erupting and causing
937
00:53:45.420 --> 00:53:48.840
an extinction-level event. This is not just a volcano. This
938
00:53:48.880 --> 00:53:52.380
is like the volcano, the giant caldera that will wildly
939
00:53:52.440 --> 00:53:55.949
reshape the face of the planet. So they all gear
940
00:53:56.050 --> 00:53:58.869
up and get a bunch of weaponry, and they decide, well,
941
00:53:58.909 --> 00:54:02.050
there's a group of people nearby in Greece. We'll go
942
00:54:02.090 --> 00:54:08.789
find the people we need. So at an entirely up-its-own-ass
943
00:54:09.369 --> 00:54:12.550
kind of Hollywood gathering, we find the people we're going
944
00:54:12.570 --> 00:54:16.449
to wind up following. There's Vincent Cassell, who is... They're
945
00:54:16.489 --> 00:54:20.719
sort of standing for Elon Musk as the, like, rich weirdo.
946
00:54:22.860 --> 00:54:31.320
We have... Our primary lead is Chris Evans playing Chris Evans.
947
00:54:33.679 --> 00:54:35.940
He's awfully concerned about the environment.
948
00:54:37.280 --> 00:54:42.199
Well, sort of. He is a movie star who has
949
00:54:42.239 --> 00:54:45.670
had a few breakdowns, including publicly when he's been recorded
950
00:54:46.510 --> 00:54:48.670
with a flamethrower in the middle of the street at
951
00:54:48.690 --> 00:54:50.949
the premiere of one of his movies. I feel like
952
00:54:50.969 --> 00:54:52.789
they were trying to take a jab at Russell Crowe,
953
00:54:52.969 --> 00:54:54.110
but I couldn't swear to it.
954
00:54:55.570 --> 00:54:59.750
He's doing Robin Williams from, I think it's Reality What
955
00:54:59.769 --> 00:55:04.170
a Concept, where he's specifically, like, I think this is
956
00:55:04.369 --> 00:55:07.409
where he's doing the improv Shakespeare bit, and he starts
957
00:55:07.449 --> 00:55:11.050
talking about, like, you know, I wanted to do Death
958
00:55:11.070 --> 00:55:15.090
of a Salesman. They're making me do Mark and Mindy.
959
00:55:16.300 --> 00:55:18.840
He's doing this whole, like, I want to be a
960
00:55:18.880 --> 00:55:21.440
serious actor, and everything is shit, and I can't take
961
00:55:21.460 --> 00:55:23.079
any of it seriously. He's having one of those.
962
00:55:24.550 --> 00:55:27.309
How, like, everything is fake and nothing is real, and
963
00:55:27.349 --> 00:55:31.699
I'm one of these tortured actors, artistic types, obsessed with
964
00:55:31.780 --> 00:55:32.940
finding the real.
965
00:55:32.960 --> 00:55:37.119
I want my work to matter, goddammit.
966
00:55:38.280 --> 00:55:41.239
So he's there, he has a mild breakdown. Then the
967
00:55:41.280 --> 00:55:44.469
people attack. And they're like, okay, we need a couple
968
00:55:44.550 --> 00:55:48.449
of people to throw into the volcano. One, we need
969
00:55:48.469 --> 00:55:50.889
the person who my brother here falls in love with.
970
00:55:51.460 --> 00:55:53.940
And the awkward brother Don, your Taylor Joy, looks around
971
00:55:54.000 --> 00:55:56.739
and goes, you, you're good enough. They grab a woman.
972
00:55:56.800 --> 00:55:59.019
Come here, pretty lady. And like King Kong, he grabs
973
00:55:59.059 --> 00:56:00.030
her and climbs up.
974
00:56:00.659 --> 00:56:05.989
They grab Vincent Cassell because they grab Vincent Cassell.
975
00:56:06.030 --> 00:56:07.769
He's a bald white guy. We've already been over this.
976
00:56:07.929 --> 00:56:11.530
That's true. That's very true. He's either like Jeff. He's
977
00:56:11.570 --> 00:56:17.050
more Jeff Bezos than he is Elon Musk in this movie. Yeah.
978
00:56:17.110 --> 00:56:19.230
He's married to Selma Hayek. So she's in this movie
979
00:56:19.250 --> 00:56:23.289
for like five minutes. And then they grab Chris Evans
980
00:56:23.389 --> 00:56:25.619
to be the one who chooses to throw himself into
981
00:56:25.639 --> 00:56:29.340
the volcano when it's all said and done. And they escape.
982
00:56:30.090 --> 00:56:32.289
There's a bit of a chase. Not much of a chase.
983
00:56:32.329 --> 00:56:35.860
Bit of a chase. Then the woman they kidnap winds
984
00:56:35.949 --> 00:56:38.869
up killing the guy who was responsible for kidnapping her
985
00:56:38.909 --> 00:56:40.889
after he confesses that he's in love with his sister
986
00:56:40.949 --> 00:56:44.329
and not her. And before he dies, he tells his sister, yeah,
987
00:56:44.409 --> 00:56:46.769
I didn't love the person that you brought, and I'm
988
00:56:46.809 --> 00:56:49.449
supposed to sacrifice the person I love, and that's you.
989
00:56:50.070 --> 00:56:53.170
Everyone goes, ew, incest, but also weird movie, so okay.
990
00:56:53.989 --> 00:56:54.670
No, it's French.
991
00:56:56.510 --> 00:57:01.010
French, Greek, somewhere in that vicinity. Yeah. So she's like, yeah,
992
00:57:01.489 --> 00:57:03.469
Anya Taylor-Joy is like, okay, I can go along with this.
993
00:57:04.190 --> 00:57:05.909
So they resume marching to the volcano. We get a
994
00:57:05.949 --> 00:57:08.550
little bit of backstory. These are like the offspring of
995
00:57:08.590 --> 00:57:13.230
a couple of crazy doomsday preppers who got religious about
996
00:57:13.269
--> 00:57:18.000
the volcanoes. They saw one too many Werner Herzog movies
997
00:57:18.059 --> 00:57:24.480
on the topic. And they're marching to the volcano. The
998
00:57:25.039 --> 00:57:27.719
crazy old man in this case is John Malkovich who
999
00:57:27.780 --> 00:57:31.250
kidnaps both Chris Evans and Anya Taylor-Joy to try and
1000
00:57:31.289 --> 00:57:32.550
yell some sense into his daughter.
1001
00:57:33.469 --> 00:57:35.610
He has the best line. He was like, because you're
1002
00:57:35.630 --> 00:57:36.090
an idiot.
1003
00:57:37.949 --> 00:57:41.030
Yeah, he's like, look, I know that there's a problem.
1004
00:57:41.070 --> 00:57:43.369
I know the thing's going to explode. I'm a genius,
1005
00:57:43.409 --> 00:57:46.210
and I've calculated when this volcano erupts all the bad
1006
00:57:46.250 --> 00:57:49.070
things that are going to happen. You're the idiot thinking
1007
00:57:49.110 --> 00:57:51.349
throwing a human being into the volcano is going to
1008
00:57:51.429 --> 00:57:52.309
change anything.
1009
00:57:53.090 --> 00:57:55.809
Yeah, that was... I legit laughed out loud when he
1010
00:57:55.849 --> 00:57:56.730
said you're an idiot.
1011
00:57:57.949 --> 00:58:04.170
Best line delivery all year, pretty much. Um... They wind up...
1012
00:58:04.840 --> 00:58:07.909
He winds up dying in the end. All of our
1013
00:58:07.949 --> 00:58:10.349
relevant players get to the rim of the volcano. A
1014
00:58:10.369 --> 00:58:13.150
bunch of people throw Vincent Cassell in. They throw Anya
1015
00:58:13.190 --> 00:58:17.059
Taylor-Joy in. And then Chris Evans looking around going, you
1016
00:58:17.099 --> 00:58:20.780
know what? The crazy blonde who just got thrown into
1017
00:58:20.800 --> 00:58:22.760
the volcano was correct. This is the only thing that's
1018
00:58:22.820 --> 00:58:25.300
real in the world. And he throws himself into the
1019
00:58:25.360 --> 00:58:27.860
volcano and the volcano stops erupting and the credits roll.
1020
00:58:31.090 --> 00:58:34.989
Um... I like weirdo indie pictures. This is kind of
1021
00:58:35.030 --> 00:58:36.110
a weirdo indie picture.
1022
00:58:36.570 --> 00:58:37.440
Very much so.
1023
00:58:39.360 --> 00:58:44.480
This is very performance driven. This speaks to fanaticism. A
1024
00:58:47.380 --> 00:58:49.980
real anxiety in the world that people have about the
1025
00:58:50.000 --> 00:58:54.360
doomsday clock. Something that we've talked about on here before.
1026
00:58:56.130 --> 00:58:59.289
Something me and Jesse have talked about. There's a real
1027
00:58:59.349 --> 00:59:05.119
anxiety that You know, in terms of maintaining human civilization,
1028
00:59:05.139 --> 00:59:08.070
not whether or not the planet will survive. The planet
1029
00:59:08.090 --> 00:59:08.710
will be just fine.
1030
00:59:09.699 --> 00:59:12.599
The planet's a big hunk of rock. It takes a
1031
00:59:12.659 --> 00:59:14.059
lot to destroy it.
1032
00:59:15.000 --> 00:59:20.420
But human civilization is maybe not as strong as we
1033
00:59:20.440 --> 00:59:23.159
think it is. And, you know, you knock a couple
1034
00:59:23.199 --> 00:59:25.710
of dominoes over and the whole thing collapses. And there's
1035
00:59:25.730 --> 00:59:29.610
some real anxiety about people about that. about climate change,
1036
00:59:29.750 --> 00:59:34.320
about the ozone layer. I think it's fine now, but
1037
00:59:34.940 --> 00:59:36.960
for a while there, it was a real concern.
1038
00:59:36.980 --> 00:59:38.639
When you and I were kids, it was all about
1039
00:59:38.659 --> 00:59:39.639
the ozone layer.
1040
00:59:40.400 --> 00:59:41.400
I haven't heard about that in a while.
1041
00:59:42.460 --> 00:59:45.369
Again, it kind of got fixed, and nobody wants to
1042
00:59:45.429 --> 00:59:49.250
actually credit the fact that we fixed a lot of
1043
00:59:49.269 --> 00:59:52.869
these problems once they were brought to our attention. They
1044
00:59:52.889 --> 00:59:54.250
just have to move on to the next thing we
1045
00:59:54.269 --> 00:59:55.070
have to panic about.
1046
00:59:55.489 --> 00:59:57.909
There's the amount of diseases coming out of the Amazon
1047
00:59:57.929 --> 01:00:00.130
and all of that. And so there's all of these
1048
01:00:00.250 --> 01:00:04.130
different conversations happening that cause people to have a bit
1049
01:00:04.170 --> 01:00:08.000
of anxiety about the end of human civilization. And why
1050
01:00:08.039 --> 01:00:10.599
are people worried about human civilization rule? Because they're humans
1051
01:00:10.679 --> 01:00:14.239
and they don't want to die. So this movie speaks
1052
01:00:14.300 --> 01:00:19.000
to that. I think it also speaks to another anxiety
1053
01:00:19.019 --> 01:00:22.710
that people deal with. And that is, you know, the
1054
01:00:22.730 --> 01:00:25.989
meaning of life. Now, Maybe this isn't something that you
1055
01:00:26.010 --> 01:00:28.909
struggle with because you are devoutly religious and God bless
1056
01:00:28.929 --> 01:00:31.769
you for it. I'm not even about to approach making
1057
01:00:31.809 --> 01:00:36.010
fun of you for that. But people who do not
1058
01:00:36.150 --> 01:00:42.380
have something that they are, something outside of themselves, bigger
1059
01:00:42.409 --> 01:00:49.780
than themselves to devote themselves to, find themselves struggling. You know,
1060
01:00:49.820 --> 01:00:51.119
they don't know what it's all about. And that's kind
1061
01:00:51.139 --> 01:00:53.820
of Chris Evans' old bit. is I have fame, I
1062
01:00:53.860 --> 01:00:57.019
have fortune, people love me, I'm handsome, I'm successful at movies,
1063
01:00:58.219 --> 01:01:04.519
I don't feel fulfilled. So there's a deep dissatisfaction that
1064
01:01:04.539 --> 01:01:06.889
people go through, even when they're successful. And you don't
1065
01:01:06.909 --> 01:01:08.599
have to be a rich, famous actor to go through it.
1066
01:01:08.630 --> 01:01:11.050
These people go through it, you know, we're
just talking
1067
01:01:11.070 --> 01:01:13.769
about Kerry Washington, who is deeply unfulfilled in her marriage.
1068
01:01:14.550 --> 01:01:17.750
There's a zillion Kerry Washingtons out there. You know, there's
1069
01:01:17.769 --> 01:01:21.659
people whose political ambitions, like, it's never enough. Like, I
1070
01:01:21.699 --> 01:01:23.320
go and I do these things and I feel like
1071
01:01:23.340 --> 01:01:25.099
I'm going to be fulfilled. And I just have this
1072
01:01:25.119 --> 01:01:28.440
hole inside of me that I can't stop beating. And
1073
01:01:28.460 --> 01:01:29.980
so there's Chris Evans. Like, I don't know what to
1074
01:01:30.000 --> 01:01:34.320
do with myself. Like, it's all bullshit. And then he's like.
1075
01:01:34.380 --> 01:01:38.159
And to assuage himself, he engages in silly performative BS
1076
01:01:38.219 --> 01:01:42.769
as well. So... His character being just this grating hypocrite
1077
01:01:42.809 --> 01:01:43.630
is kind of genius.
1078
01:01:44.130 --> 01:01:47.679
Yeah. One of the things I... I struggle with the movie.
1079
01:01:48.219 --> 01:01:51.239
I struggle with anything that's nihilistic because nihilism is a
1080
01:01:51.260 --> 01:01:56.929
dead end. So, like, the movie having your lead character
1081
01:01:56.969 --> 01:02:02.849
struggling with fulfillment and joy, deciding, you know, being convinced
1082
01:02:02.889 --> 01:02:05.219
by the pretty girl that the only thing worth doing
1083
01:02:05.260 --> 01:02:15.519
is killing yourself. I struggle with the movie telling me that.
1084
01:02:16.269 --> 01:02:19.670
Whether or not it wants people to follow that, I
1085
01:02:19.829 --> 01:02:24.389
can't really tell. But the fact that the movie says
1086
01:02:24.489 --> 01:02:33.659
it bothers me deeply. Again, I think Anya Taylor-Joy actually
1087
01:02:33.699 --> 01:02:37.179
has a more interesting story because hers is one of
1088
01:02:37.239 --> 01:02:40.800
fanaticism and then realizing that you've devoted yourself to a
1089
01:02:40.840 --> 01:02:44.599
cause that is bullshit. And then what did we do
1090
01:02:44.659 --> 01:02:50.320
all of this for? I think it speaks to, again, religion,
1091
01:02:51.659 --> 01:02:58.559
institutional structures where you become a good worker, a good follower,
1092
01:02:58.599 --> 01:03:01.820
a good devotee, and then you realize it's all bullshit
1093
01:03:01.840 --> 01:03:07.050
being run by Wizard of Oz-type characters, just con artists.
1094
01:03:07.769 --> 01:03:09.829
And it's like, what the fuck was my life all
1095
01:03:09.869 --> 01:03:14.889
about then? And then her not wanting to be thrown
1096
01:03:14.909 --> 01:03:20.039
into the volcano. So, like, I like the movie because
1097
01:03:20.079 --> 01:03:22.420
it's interesting. I like the movie because it's talking about
1098
01:03:22.480 --> 01:03:25.440
things that I think are important and that are worth discussing.
1099
01:03:25.920 --> 01:03:28.500
I think it's got pretty actors who give great performances.
1100
01:03:32.079 --> 01:03:35.619
It's okay. Like I said, it's not quite as absurd
1101
01:03:35.679 --> 01:03:38.489
as Triangle of Sadness, so for me then it's not
1102
01:03:38.510 --> 01:03:41.409
quite as good because this needed to be sillier than
1103
01:03:41.449 --> 01:03:47.449
it was. The John Malkovich stuff was fun. but it
1104
01:03:47.570 --> 01:03:51.400
kind of was like a detour that went nowhere. It
1105
01:03:51.440 --> 01:03:53.300
just gives us a little bit more insight into On
1106
01:03:53.340 --> 01:03:56.139
Your Tale of Joy, and it gives John Malkovich an
1107
01:03:56.179 --> 01:03:58.079
opportunity to say the funniest thing I've heard all year.
1108
01:04:01.309 --> 01:04:04.949
Outside of that, the locations I thought were interesting. Not
1109
01:04:04.989 --> 01:04:09.170
necessarily the top of the volcano parts. That looked like Mordor. Well,
1110
01:04:09.190 --> 01:04:13.010
I mean, the fact that the Hollywood... The party, where
1111
01:04:13.030 --> 01:04:14.610
they are at the party. Oh, sure.
1112
01:04:14.699 --> 01:04:16.760
They went into a marble quarry and they all decided
1113
01:04:16.800 --> 01:04:17.860
to commemorate the time.
1114
01:04:19.860 --> 01:04:21.320
You know, I wasn't going to make that.
1115
01:04:21.380 --> 01:04:22.159
Adrian Brody.
1116
01:04:22.179 --> 01:04:23.980
God damn it. I wasn't going to make that joke.
1117
01:04:25.119 --> 01:04:25.800
I was.
1118
01:04:26.820 --> 01:04:28.860
But yeah, like the marble quarry is pretty looking. It's
1119
01:04:28.889 --> 01:04:32.480
a very, it's a very interesting looking set. So that's it.
1120
01:04:32.489 --> 01:04:35.590
This is kind of my thoughts about Sacrifice. Of the three,
1121
01:04:35.630 --> 01:04:38.050
this is the one I most enjoyed watching because it's
1122
01:04:38.070 --> 01:04:40.449
a really interesting film. I just don't know if I
1123
01:04:40.530 --> 01:04:43.110
agree with what I think the message was. Your thoughts?
1124
01:04:45.369 --> 01:04:47.170
I didn't quite get the nihilism out of this that
1125
01:04:47.210 --> 01:04:49.300
you did, but I see where you're coming from with it.
1126
01:04:51.840 --> 01:04:57.360
I kind of just wound up... Giant chunks of this
1127
01:04:57.400 --> 01:05:00.000
movie want to point and laugh at the Hollywood machine
1128
01:05:00.039 --> 01:05:03.070
and its faux... It's like faux outrage and its faux
1129
01:05:03.110 --> 01:05:06.969
sincerity about the urgency of current things.
1130
01:05:07.340 --> 01:05:09.659
Yes, if you were mad at all the celebrity singing
1131
01:05:09.719 --> 01:05:12.219
imagined during COVID, this is the movie for you.
1132
01:05:13.119 --> 01:05:15.820
My problem is, like, at the same time, it's too
1133
01:05:15.929 --> 01:05:18.230
self-important to actually, like, go all the way with that
1134
01:05:18.269 --> 01:05:19.010
kind of farce.
1135
01:05:19.690 --> 01:05:19.869
Mm-hmm.
1136
01:05:20.889 -->
01:05:23.409
Because it thinks it's pointing out some... It thinks it's
1137
01:05:23.469 --> 01:05:25.610
pointing this out and that it's brave for pointing this out,
1138
01:05:25.650 --> 01:05:28.039
so it winds up being a bit too self-serious to actually, like,
1139
01:05:28.099 --> 01:05:29.059
lean into the satire.
1140
01:05:29.079 --> 01:05:30.420
Mm-hmm.
1141
01:05:31.579 --> 01:05:33.699
And I think that's a mistake because that's the strongest
1142
01:05:33.719 --> 01:05:36.719
stuff in the movie is... We have to do something.
1143
01:05:36.760 --> 01:05:39.199
And then someone shows up and says, okay, here's a
1144
01:05:39.219 --> 01:05:47.610
thing you can do. And they all go, how about not? Like,
1145
01:05:47.780 --> 01:05:51.030
we have to stop the volcano from erupting. Well, what
1146
01:05:51.050 --> 01:05:53.360
can we do? Well, you can throw yourself into it.
1147
01:05:53.429 --> 01:05:57.929
Can I give you a check? Like, what do you
1148
01:05:57.949 --> 01:05:59.949
mean I have to suffer personally? What do you mean
1149
01:06:00.010 --> 01:06:02.730
I have to give up something to try and do anything? No. No.
1150
01:06:03.460 --> 01:06:07.010
I'm important. I'm rich. I'm a celebrity. I'm a whatever.
1151
01:06:07.030 --> 01:06:11.829
I don't think there's particularly anything interesting or deep about death.
1152
01:06:13.829 --> 01:06:17.889
And death is such an intrinsic part of like cult behavior.
1153
01:06:19.090 --> 01:06:25.260
And there's a lot of flowery discussion full of therapy
1154
01:06:25.280 --> 01:06:28.739
speak about the nature of death and what it means
1155
01:06:29.280 --> 01:06:32.090
to us living here and I'm willing to just accept
1156
01:06:32.190 --> 01:06:34.110
death as one of those things that makes life precious
1157
01:06:34.190 --> 01:06:36.809
and leave it alone. I don't need to examine it
1158
01:06:36.869 --> 01:06:40.969
any more than that. And like this movie desperately wants
1159
01:06:41.030 --> 01:06:41.510
to do that.
1160
01:06:42.750 --> 01:06:44.829
It's weird. Cause it kind of, it does, but it
1161
01:06:44.889 --> 01:06:47.670
doesn't know what it wants to talk about with relationship
1162
01:06:47.710 --> 01:06:53.340
to death. It's more trying to get it like, again,
1163
01:06:53.380 --> 01:06:58.139
like the nature of sacrifice for something that is of
1164
01:06:58.219 --> 01:07:03.050
supreme importance is And a bunch of people who give
1165
01:07:03.110 --> 01:07:06.099
lip service to the notion, but don't actually care anything
1166
01:07:06.139 --> 01:07:09.300
about what it actually takes to affect change or to
1167
01:07:09.360 --> 01:07:14.480
do anything. Right. And that's, again, I think that's behavior
1168
01:07:14.539 --> 01:07:17.500
in a worldview worthy of scorn and derision and being
1169
01:07:17.539 --> 01:07:20.940
called out and castigated like this. But I think the
1170
01:07:20.980 --> 01:07:24.010
movie itself is, again, a little too self-important about, look
1171
01:07:24.030 --> 01:07:27.110
at us being brave and calling out the hypocrisy to...
1172
01:07:28.659 --> 01:07:30.719
actually be effective in most of those respects.
1173
01:07:31.059 --> 01:07:33.820
When I got in a fight last year with the
1174
01:07:33.900 --> 01:07:36.820
online communists, you know, and their whole thing was like,
1175
01:07:37.059 --> 01:07:41.380
seize the means of production. If you get past the
1176
01:07:41.420 --> 01:07:44.659
silliness of that antiquated statement, a lot of what they
1177
01:07:44.719 --> 01:07:47.019
wanted was to just see the entire system as it
1178
01:07:47.059 --> 01:07:52.570
currently operates being torn down and changed so that people
1179
01:07:52.650 --> 01:08:00.030
aren't suffering. And they can say that Somewhat. I'm helping
1180
01:08:00.070 --> 01:08:00.909
a lot here with that.
1181
01:08:01.179 --> 01:08:05.039
You're giving them way too much grace.
1182
01:08:05.539 --> 01:08:07.380
But they don't have any concrete plans for how you
1183
01:08:07.400 --> 01:08:13.579
would actually execute that plan. After you've burnt the system down,
1184
01:08:13.679 --> 01:08:17.670
after you've taken out the leaders, you've cleaned out Washington,
1185
01:08:18.010 --> 01:08:21.489
you've killed all the billionaires, you've eaten the rich, what
1186
01:08:21.510 --> 01:08:24.590
does day two look like? Who's in charge? How are
1187
01:08:24.630 --> 01:08:27.930
we keeping people from being taken advantage of by ruffians
1188
01:08:27.989 --> 01:08:30.449
and barbarians that are going to come up from the
1189
01:08:30.489 --> 01:08:35.250
woodwork because the institution's gone that kept those people in place.
1190
01:08:35.750 --> 01:08:37.409
They don't have an answer for that because they've never
1191
01:08:37.449 --> 01:08:39.090
thought that deeply about it and they all like to
1192
01:08:39.109 --> 01:08:41.750
put their head in the sand about what happens every
1193
01:08:41.810 --> 01:08:45.500
time right but every single time it's joseph stalin or
1194
01:08:45.539 --> 01:08:48.000
chairman mao these are your choices guys.
1195
01:08:48.039 --> 01:08:50.619
But that's my frustration with this movie is this movie's
1196
01:08:50.659 --> 01:08:54.050
just like Burn it all. You know, if Chris Evans
1197
01:08:54.100 --> 01:08:57.789
is a metaphor, like a living, walking, breathing metaphor for
1198
01:08:58.210 --> 01:09:03.359
fresh with the, with institutions and lip service and all
1199
01:09:03.380 --> 01:09:05.859
of that, and him throwing himself in the volcano is
1200
01:09:05.899 --> 01:09:09.359
symbolic of burn it all down. Then they don't ever
1201
01:09:09.479 --> 01:09:12.880
give you anything more than that. And I'm sorry, you
1202
01:09:12.920 --> 01:09:15.560
have to have more than burn it all down. It works.
1203
01:09:15.619 --> 01:09:18.470
If you're a professional wrestler, kinda, it doesn't really work
1204
01:09:18.529 -->
01:09:23.840
as a political, uh, It just doesn't. Like, everybody likes
1205
01:09:23.880 --> 01:09:29.899
to take the laziest, low-hanging fruit approach to radical change,
1206
01:09:29.979 --> 01:09:33.960
political revolution, all of that. But nobody ever thinks it through.
1207
01:09:34.399 --> 01:09:39.159
Either because they can't or because they... It's not fun.
1208
01:09:39.479 --> 01:09:42.659
It's not fun to do... It's fun to throw the
1209
01:09:42.680 --> 01:09:44.600
party and destroy the house. It's not fun to clean
1210
01:09:44.619 --> 01:09:45.680
the party up afterwards.
1211
01:09:46.140 --> 01:09:46.439
Yeah.
1212
01:09:48.000 --> 01:09:48.159
But.
1213
01:09:48.909 --> 01:09:51.510
you have to clean the house up afterwards or there
1214
01:09:51.569 --> 01:09:56.029
is no house anymore. Your party, you know, destroyed the house.
1215
01:09:56.760 --> 01:09:59.060
So now you're just in the street to carry this
1216
01:09:59.100 --> 01:10:02.859
tortured metaphor even further. And I'm over here going, no, no, no, no.
1217
01:10:03.279 --> 01:10:05.439
Before we throw the party, what's the plan to clean
1218
01:10:05.479 --> 01:10:08.460
the house? And nobody wants to talk about that second part.
1219
01:10:08.720 --> 01:10:11.449
God knows this movie doesn't. That's my great frustration with it.
1220
01:10:14.159 --> 01:10:14.779
But I cut you off.
1221
01:10:15.340 --> 01:10:20.699
No, I don't disagree. Um, I think the interest, if
1222
01:10:20.720 --> 01:10:22.699
there was something that I wish would have explored a
1223
01:10:22.720 --> 01:10:25.460
little more, it actually is the John Malkovich character because
1224
01:10:26.359 --> 01:10:28.859
when he confronts Anya Taylor-Joy, she's happy to tell him like,
1225
01:10:28.899 --> 01:10:32.659
you know, you actually believed everything that I believed until
1226
01:10:34.359 --> 01:10:36.039
it came down that, by the way, this is going
1227
01:10:36.060 --> 01:10:41.689
to cost you personally. And suddenly you abandoned that and
1228
01:10:41.729 --> 01:10:44.029
you are trying to adopt a new worldview that just
1229
01:10:44.210 --> 01:10:50.239
asks less of you. And that relationship and that dynamic,
1230
01:10:50.279 --> 01:10:53.890
I think, is the more interesting and the more cutting one.
1231
01:10:54.869 --> 01:10:56.689
The number of people in the world who just were
1232
01:10:56.729 --> 01:10:59.890
happy to adopt. Yeah, sure, we need to do something
1233
01:10:59.909 --> 01:11:03.149
about climate change. Okay, please stop with the private jets. No,
1234
01:11:03.430 --> 01:11:08.359
I will not fly commercial. We have to do something about,
1235
01:11:09.100 --> 01:11:14.949
you know, exploited child labor in Africa. Great, quit buying smartphones. No.
1236
01:11:16.739 --> 01:11:22.430
We have to do something about anything. And they're happy
1237
01:11:22.449 --> 01:11:24.310
to say this is a problem. We need to fix it.
1238
01:11:24.750 --> 01:11:29.890
Do you remember Al Gore's carbon fucking thing that he
1239
01:11:29.909 --> 01:11:35.210
was doing where it was carbon offsets or offshoots? Oh, yeah.
1240
01:11:35.550 --> 01:11:38.470
Where I wasn't willing to make any personal sacrifices, but
1241
01:11:38.510 --> 01:11:44.430
I'm selling this other thing that will somehow affect climate
1242
01:11:44.449 --> 01:11:48.079
change positively. What a scam that was.
1243
01:11:49.220 --> 01:11:59.789
Of course it was. It's Al Gore. And that dynamic
1244
01:11:59.810 --> 01:12:02.470
I find more interesting because Anya Taylor-Joy is still a
1245
01:12:02.510 --> 01:12:05.069
believer in all of this. And she's like, you were
1246
01:12:05.109 --> 01:12:08.229
a believer too. What happened? Oh, suddenly you might have
1247
01:12:08.270 --> 01:12:11.420
to sacrifice. You might have to suffer. And now you're like, please,
1248
01:12:11.460 --> 01:12:17.029
where's the science? Now you're just retreating from one ideology
1249
01:12:17.090 --> 01:12:20.829
to another. Desperately trying to save your own ass.
1250
01:12:21.069 --> 01:12:23.729
So a little ways back, Jesse and I reviewed SLC Punk.
1251
01:12:24.470 --> 01:12:25.020
And a lot of.
1252
01:12:25.649 --> 01:12:29.090
Deconstructed.
1253
01:12:29.109 --> 01:12:32.840
A lot of what this movie talks about was the
1254
01:12:32.850 --> 01:12:34.579
same kind of stuff that came up in SLC Punk.
1255
01:12:35.000 --> 01:12:40.319
At what point does all of your nihilism and your
1256
01:12:40.600 --> 01:12:46.119
wanting to tear down institutions get us to any kind
1257
01:12:46.159 --> 01:12:48.960
of progression. It's not. You're just dancing in a circle.
1258
01:12:49.939 --> 01:12:56.550
You're just putting off adulthood. You're putting off responsibility. That's
1259
01:12:56.590 --> 01:13:00.189
all you're really effectively doing here. My big problem with
1260
01:13:00.229 --> 01:13:03.939
a lot of these leftist movements is you're not serious
1261
01:13:03.979 --> 01:13:10.399
people making serious plans with serious ideas about how this
1262
01:13:10.439 --> 01:13:13.939
world will work. it's either pie in the sky or
1263
01:13:14.020 --> 01:13:16.819
it's just, we're going to dance all night and party
1264
01:13:16.859 --> 01:13:19.399
every day. Um, that's frustrating.
1265
01:13:19.420 --> 01:13:22.340
But everyone can become an artist, Mark. Sure.
1266
01:13:23.000 --> 01:13:27.010
Um, but I, but again, so like, and you will be.
1267
01:13:26.909 --> 01:13:31.250
The community YouTuber instead of going into the mines, you morons.
1268
01:13:32.109 --> 01:13:33.890
So on your tail of joy is like frustration with
1269
01:13:33.909 --> 01:13:36.090
John Malkovich. And then her like decision, like, I don't
1270
01:13:36.130 --> 01:13:38.989
really want to be thrown into a fucking volcano. This
1271
01:13:39.060 --> 01:13:42.810
is a pointless gesture. That means nothing. And I was like, yeah, that, Okay.
1272
01:13:44.130 --> 01:13:47.550
Which gets undermined by Chris Evans then jumping into the volcano.
1273
01:13:48.289 --> 01:13:51.310
Well, it's one of the... I was waiting for the
1274
01:13:51.409 --> 01:13:53.189
end of this to see if anything interesting was going
1275
01:13:53.210 --> 01:13:57.550
to come out of it because Anya Taylor-Joy does question everything,
1276
01:13:57.590 --> 01:13:59.430
but then to the very end, she's like, you know what?
1277
01:14:00.989 --> 01:14:03.220
She just chooses to go through with it anyway because
1278
01:14:03.229 --> 01:14:07.020
she chooses to believe. And whether that's futile or not,
1279
01:14:07.079 --> 01:14:12.010
I suppose is a little bit up to interpretation. And then, yeah,
1280
01:14:12.050 --> 01:14:14.590
Chris Evans is like, you know what? The artificiality of
1281
01:14:15.189 --> 01:14:18.409
my previous existence was not worth it. And if my
1282
01:14:18.470 --> 01:14:21.789
sacrifice leads to the volcano not erupting, then it will
1283
01:14:21.829 --> 01:14:27.590
have been worth something. And I really wanted this movie
1284
01:14:27.609 --> 01:14:31.869
to end with the volcano erupting. Yeah. If you want
1285
01:14:31.890 --> 01:14:37.520
to talk, that's the nihilistic ending. What else could we
1286
01:14:37.539 --> 01:14:39.979
have done? We did everything we could and then everything
1287
01:14:40.020 --> 01:14:40.720
blew up anyway.
1288
01:14:41.010 --> 01:14:42.689
You know, a movie does a better job of what
1289
01:14:42.710 --> 01:14:44.130
this movie is trying to do. Don't look up.
1290
01:14:45.609 --> 01:14:49.250
A bit, yeah. Only a bit, though. That movie annoyed me. Sure.
1291
01:14:49.890 --> 01:14:51.710
You don't love Adam McKay. I get that.
1292
01:14:54.149 --> 01:14:56.859
I'm closer. That's closer to a coin flip than me.
1293
01:14:56.899 --> 01:14:58.659
Just like not been like Aaron Sorkin.
1294
01:14:58.939 --> 01:15:02.439
But it's like every week with Aaron Sorkin.
1295
01:15:03.039 --> 01:15:05.880
I'm just reaching for a relevantly recent.
1296
01:15:05.899 --> 01:15:08.939
Adam McKay's frustration with why don't you listen to smart people?
1297
01:15:10.430 --> 01:15:14.859
I think cut closer to the point than this one does. Yeah.
1298
01:15:14.920 --> 01:15:15.859
That, that I agree with.
1299
01:15:15.880 --> 01:15:19.359
So anything else about sacrifice?
1300
01:15:20.060 --> 01:15:23.579
Again, of the three, like it's just weird enough. And
1301
01:15:23.600 --> 01:15:27.310
that much as I didn't necessarily like it by the
1302
01:15:27.409 --> 01:15:30.069
end of the movie, I wound up respecting it and
1303
01:15:30.109 --> 01:15:33.600
its respect. I respect it being weird and I respect it,
1304
01:15:33.609 --> 01:15:35.050
you know, kind of going for some of the stuff
1305
01:15:35.069 --> 01:15:41.210
that it does. But it's largely buoyed up because I
1306
01:15:41.270 --> 01:15:44.729
watched Animals and Matchbox after it and went, you know what?
1307
01:15:44.810 --> 01:15:48.029
By comparison, maybe not quite as bad.
1308
01:15:48.510 --> 01:15:51.210
I watched it in reverse order. I watched Matchbox, then Animals,
1309
01:15:51.289 --> 01:15:52.189
then Sacrifice.
1310
01:15:53.210 --> 01:15:56.430
Same. So you felt even better about it than I
1311
01:15:56.470 --> 01:16:00.729
did because you were coming from the worst stuff. I
1312
01:16:00.770 --> 01:16:02.369
think the other thing that's going to hurt this when
1313
01:16:02.409 --> 01:16:04.510
it's all said and done, there's a giant chunk of
1314
01:16:04.550 --> 01:16:07.569
this that is too close thematically and whatnot to Digger.
1315
01:16:08.180 --> 01:16:09.720
And Digger just does a lot of it better.
1316
01:16:09.739 --> 01:16:15.600
It's weird that, like, Digger and Sacrifice are, you know,
1317
01:16:16.159 --> 01:16:18.680
at least available to the vast majority of people around
1318
01:16:18.739 --> 01:16:23.130
the same time. Like, there's this, like, swell of dissatisfaction
1319
01:16:23.649 --> 01:16:26.619
in Hollywood, and I'm just so unsympathetic towards it.
1320
01:16:27.289 --> 01:16:30.149
They fomented it themselves, and now they're convinced that they're
1321
01:16:30.170 --> 01:16:31.989
the ones who can be the arbiters of how we
1322
01:16:32.029 --> 01:16:34.170
talk about it, and it's pathetic.
1323
01:16:36.149 --> 01:16:38.760
Yeah, it's... I just keep thinking of the line from
1324
01:16:38.819 --> 01:16:41.050
Rick and Morty, like, your booze mean nothing, I've seen
1325
01:16:41.090 --> 01:16:41.619
what you cheer.
1326
01:16:42.510 --> 01:16:45.289
Yep, that is such a great line. Yeah.
1327
01:16:46.409 --> 01:16:52.529
Well, folks, that is our review of Da Animals. Da Animals.
1328
01:16:53.069 --> 01:17:00.020
Matchbox and Sacrifice. Tomorrow, if you're missing DMU Hollywood, it'll
1329
01:17:00.039 --> 01:17:03.460
be here tomorrow, but I won't be. Alexis will be
1330
01:17:03.539 --> 01:17:10.630
leading Robert and the Diva himself. Mr. Podcast. Mr. Don't
1331
01:17:10.670 --> 01:17:15.010
put the comments over my face. Mr. I have 20
1332
01:17:15.010 --> 01:17:17.720
bits I want to do and an impression and a
1333
01:17:17.720 --> 01:17:19.979
llama and pots and pans I want to bang together.
1334
01:17:20.000 --> 01:17:20.060
Mr.
1335
01:17:20.739 --> 01:17:25.500
I bring an audience, pay attention to me. Zach Strobel.
1336
01:17:26.500 --> 01:17:29.659
And they will be doing Oh Baby, It's a Wildwood.
1337
01:17:30.199 --> 01:17:32.550
Let me talk about that. Of the four things I
1338
01:17:32.590 --> 01:17:34.149
watched this weekend, that was the best.
1339
01:17:34.840 --> 01:17:37.600
Oh, Wildwood is, I haven't seen it yet, but I'm
1340
01:17:37.680 --> 01:17:39.520
almost certain it's going to be one of my 10 best.
1341
01:17:39.729 --> 01:17:41.630
So I've been complaining a lot on TikTok and it's
1342
01:17:41.649 --> 01:17:45.010
getting me a lot of views about the modern state
1343
01:17:45.029 -->
01:17:48.989
of fantasy and what a terrible place it's in. That
1344
01:17:49.310 --> 01:17:52.170
a lot of fantasy is hot garbage. It's a lot
1345
01:17:52.189 --> 01:17:55.640
of cookie cutter stuff. In case anyone's just like, oh,
1346
01:17:55.659 --> 01:17:57.399
you just don't like anything that's new. You know, go
1347
01:17:57.439 --> 01:18:00.939
back to your old 1970s, 1980s stuff. No, no, no.
1348
01:18:01.760 --> 01:18:02.180
Wildwood.
1349
01:18:02.819 --> 01:18:05.920
Wildwood was perfect. Wildwood is exactly what I want fantasy
1350
01:18:05.960 --> 01:18:08.899
to be. Like, it was... I was on the edge
1351
01:18:08.920 --> 01:18:10.520
of my seat, mostly because I didn't want to cough,
1352
01:18:10.560 --> 01:18:14.560
but I was actually really into the movie. It's the
1353
01:18:14.760 --> 01:18:18.100
perfect example. Like, it's definitely, like... And I know it's
1354
01:18:18.159 --> 01:18:21.390
an adaptation of a book, but... And I'm not entirely
1355
01:18:21.399 --> 01:18:24.069
sure how liberally the book takes from, like, Labyrinth and
1356
01:18:24.090 --> 01:18:27.170
The Wizard of Oz and Alice in Wonderland, but... Well,
1357
01:18:27.869 --> 01:18:28.449
it's the same.
1358
01:18:29.670 --> 01:18:32.390
I hesitate to say it this way, but... Mm-hmm. Like
1359
01:18:32.649 --> 01:18:37.970
Labyrinth and Alice in Wonderland, that is a subtype of story.
1360
01:18:38.989 --> 01:18:43.329
And it's almost its own archetype in some respects. So
1361
01:18:43.390 --> 01:18:45.109
it's within that genre.
1362
01:18:45.609 --> 01:18:48.270
Well, I don't want to take Alexis' thunder. I just
1363
01:18:48.289 --> 01:18:50.340
want to give my quick word on Wildwood. and then
1364
01:18:50.840 --> 01:18:52.640
you guys can have a full discussion about it tomorrow.
1365
01:18:54.619 --> 01:18:55.539
But yeah, I.
1366
01:18:57.750 --> 01:18:59.680
I couldn't think of a single thing wrong with it.
1367
01:18:59.850 --> 01:19:01.789
I enjoyed every single minute of it. I thought all
1368
01:19:01.810 --> 01:19:04.189
the voice work was good. I thought the stop motion...
1369
01:19:04.930 --> 01:19:07.590
If that doesn't win Best Animated Feature, I'll be surprised.
1370
01:19:09.489 --> 01:19:12.689
It is... One of the best movies of this year.
1371
01:19:12.729 --> 01:19:14.470
I can't say enough good things about it. I hope
1372
01:19:14.649 --> 01:19:17.970
you really enjoy it. I'm sure you, Zach, and Alexis
1373
01:19:17.989 --> 01:19:21.609
will have just the most positive speech conversation about it.
1374
01:19:21.689 --> 01:19:24.890
And really should. I'm not trying to be sarcastic. I
1375
01:19:26.770 --> 01:19:29.369
get on Alexis because I think she artificially praises things
1376
01:19:29.409 --> 01:19:32.680
because sometimes she's not the deepest of thinkers. But I
1377
01:19:32.720 --> 01:19:34.479
think here she's going to gush over this thing and
1378
01:19:34.500 --> 01:19:36.880
it's going to be well-deserved. So
have fun with that.
1379
01:19:38.479 --> 01:19:41.100
Yeah, that's what we'll be doing tomorrow, and I'm looking
1380
01:19:41.140 --> 01:19:42.220
forward to it. Yep.
1381
01:19:42.779 --> 01:19:47.090
Thursday, Jesse and I return to the studio. Since it's
1382
01:19:47.149 --> 01:19:49.869
Veterans Day coming up, I decided to take our Band
1383
01:19:49.909 --> 01:19:53.409
of Brothers Pacific and Masters of the Air reviews and
1384
01:19:53.470 --> 01:19:57.710
make a Sabaton-style appreciation of the military song called Tanks
1385
01:19:57.750 --> 01:19:58.289
for the Memories.
1386
01:19:59.810 --> 01:20:00.770
Even though they're not so good?
1387
01:20:01.859 --> 01:20:03.739
Well, you know, Jesse's the one that said it, and
1388
01:20:03.760 --> 01:20:05.100
I thought it was so funny, I stuck with it.
1389
01:20:05.460 --> 01:20:07.640
You just, you went with the pun. Okay. Yep.
1390
01:20:07.970 --> 01:20:10.109
Thanks for the memories. No one listens to my music anyway.
1391
01:20:10.130 --> 01:20:12.689
Who gives a fuck? Hey, I listen to your stuff.
1392
01:20:13.140 --> 01:20:16.500
That's true. Monday, we're back on DMU Hollywood on its
1393
01:20:16.539 --> 01:20:21.140
regular Monday's time slot with Godzilla. And then on Thursday
1394
01:20:21.260 --> 01:20:24.560
of next week, oh boy, Robert, I can't wait. It's
1395
01:20:24.619 --> 01:20:31.079
part one of two of our seafaring monster shark movie trilogies.
1396
01:20:31.659 --> 01:20:38.699
Triple features. We got the Bay Let me see what
1397
01:20:38.720 --> 01:20:43.220
I got here. We got The Bay, Deepwater, and Chum.
1398
01:20:43.239 --> 01:20:46.659
I've heard Chum is one of the worst movies of
1399
01:20:46.680 --> 01:20:48.420
the year, so I'm very excited about this.
1400
01:20:49.300 --> 01:20:50.520
I'm sure it is.
1401
01:20:51.279 --> 01:20:55.000
So, you wanted to review Deepwater, so I had to
1402
01:20:55.039 --> 01:20:56.159
build a triple feature around it.
1403
01:20:56.180 --> 01:20:58.920
You did not have to build a triple feature.
1404
01:20:59.239 --> 01:21:01.260
I had to build a triple feature. Why am I
1405
01:21:01.279 --> 01:21:05.000
supposed to just talk about Deepwater all willy-nilly and unstructured?
1406
01:21:07.189 --> 01:21:09.329
I mean, there's any number of ways we could have
1407
01:21:09.350 --> 01:21:10.029
approached it.
1408
01:21:11.529 --> 01:21:13.569
No, I suppose we could have done an on-trial, but
1409
01:21:13.590 --> 01:21:16.210
it would have been like five minutes. No, this is
1410
01:21:16.250 --> 01:21:16.649
much better.
1411
01:21:17.369 --> 01:21:20.350
I'm just saying, there's other ways we could have approached it.
1412
01:21:21.810 --> 01:21:22.880
You made this choice.
1413
01:21:23.489 --> 01:21:26.600
I did. I'm happy to... You like a nice, schlocky
1414
01:21:26.640 --> 01:21:30.239
shark movie. So three of them in a row should
1415
01:21:30.260 --> 01:21:33.500
be fantastic. This won't make you regretful of your life
1416
01:21:33.520 --> 01:21:34.520
decisions at all.
1417
01:21:34.539 --> 01:21:35.579
Uh-huh.
1418
01:21:37.680 --> 01:21:39.119
All right, that's what I got going on over here.
1419
01:21:39.159 --> 01:21:40.140
What do you got going on over there?
1420
01:21:40.899 --> 01:21:45.970
I cover mixed martial arts and professional wrestling over at 411mania. com.
1421
01:21:45.189 --> 01:21:48.010
They're going to be SmackDown on Fridays. I think they're
1422
01:21:48.050 --> 01:21:51.569
currently taping this episode, so spoilers should be out in
1423
01:21:51.590 --> 01:21:52.250
the near future.
1424
01:21:52.270 --> 01:21:55.380
Have they gone to Riyadh yet? Did they go early?
1425
01:21:56.539 --> 01:21:57.140
This Saturday.
1426
01:21:58.020 --> 01:22:01.159
I know it's this Saturday, but if they're taping now.
1427
01:22:03.439 --> 01:22:05.500
I'm wondering if they're making travel plans to go earlier,
1428
01:22:05.520 --> 01:22:07.010
seeing as it's not the safest trip right now.
1429
01:22:07.020 --> 01:22:11.859
Well, you know, flying from somewhere in the United States,
1430
01:22:13.979 --> 01:22:16.239
you would have to, like, leave either late Friday night
1431
01:22:16.260 --> 01:22:20.899
or early Saturday morning and then do the show Saturday. Like,
1432
01:22:21.220 --> 01:22:24.319
the travel's just not feasible for the Friday crew. Mm-hmm.
1433
01:22:26.449 --> 01:22:28.689
So maybe you get a couple of days off. Maybe
1434
01:22:28.710 --> 01:22:30.689
you just go over there later and suck up to
1435
01:22:30.729 --> 01:22:33.840
the bloodthirsty, murderous regime and try not to get shot
1436
01:22:33.880 --> 01:22:36.859
down by any of the number of the violent rebels.
1437
01:22:37.399 --> 01:22:39.920
It was nice of our president to not start another
1438
01:22:39.939 --> 01:22:42.020
war with Iran until after Ground Jewel.
1439
01:22:42.739 --> 01:22:44.460
I hope he starts it while they're over there, and
1440
01:22:44.479 --> 01:22:45.199
I hope they get bombed.
1441
01:22:46.060 --> 01:22:51.289
Robert, don't wish people death by bombing. What do the
1442
01:22:51.329 --> 01:22:52.529
pro wrestlers ever do to you?
1443
01:22:56.310 --> 01:22:56.789
Really?
1444
01:22:59.010 --> 01:23:02.170
You know, I say that, but I have a TikTok
1445
01:23:02.189 --> 01:23:06.609
coming up about Ted Lasso season four, Fuller House, and
1446
01:23:06.630 --> 01:23:11.270
The Mandalorian and Grogu that starts with, I'm tired of
1447
01:23:11.329 --> 01:23:14.029
television hurting me. So I take it back. I take
1448
01:23:14.069 --> 01:23:14.510
it all back.
1449
01:23:16.289 --> 01:23:18.699
Of all the genres that you could ask me, like, hey,
1450
01:23:18.750 --> 01:23:20.649
what did these people ever do to you? And you
1451
01:23:20.670 --> 01:23:22.109
chose pro wrestlers?
1452
01:23:24.130 --> 01:23:27.670
Yeah. In my defense, you would not have such a
1453
01:23:27.750 --> 01:23:29.710
long list of grievances that you
want to nail to
1454
01:23:29.729 --> 01:23:32.090
the church door had you not been paid to cover
1455
01:23:32.109 --> 01:23:35.670
it for the past 20 years. However long you've been
1456
01:23:35.710 --> 01:23:40.489
doing it. Paid. Here's your 40 shillings and a hay penny.
1457
01:23:40.510 --> 01:23:44.239
Yeah, that is now two months behind, so there's about
1458
01:23:44.279 --> 01:23:44.720
to be a.
1459
01:23:45.899 --> 01:23:47.180
A work stoppage you're going on strike?
1460
01:23:48.220 --> 01:23:50.140
Something. We'll see.
1461
01:23:51.079 --> 01:23:52.739
You know, those old gray mares ain't what they used
1462
01:23:52.779 --> 01:23:52.939
to be.
1463
01:23:53.399 --> 01:23:56.800
That is the truth. But also, like, professional wrestling is
1464
01:23:56.840 --> 01:23:59.979
a cesspool of the worst people in the world, and
1465
01:24:00.060 --> 01:24:01.079
pretty much always has been.
1466
01:24:01.100 --> 01:24:04.560
Okay, I feel like that's a strong statement, considering there's, like,
1467
01:24:04.960 --> 01:24:08.359
you know, gang violence and terrorists out there.
1468
01:24:08.560 --> 01:24:10.930
Oh, you want to go through the sheer number of
1469
01:24:11.029 --> 01:24:14.090
child predators that hit in the ranks of professional wrestlers
1470
01:24:14.149 --> 01:24:14.710
over the years?
1471
01:24:14.729 --> 01:24:16.789
No, I didn't mean to touch you in your no-no square.
1472
01:24:16.869 --> 01:24:18.189
Please just get on with your plugs.
1473
01:24:18.289 --> 01:24:20.210
Because it's a long-ass list if we want to go
1474
01:24:20.250 --> 01:24:20.560
down it.
1475
01:24:20.750 --> 01:24:22.609
I hear you, Martin Luther. Keep going.
1476
01:24:22.630 --> 01:24:22.810
Okay.
1477
01:24:26.800 --> 01:24:29.260
Everyone who heard me thinks I'm actually talking about Martin
1478
01:24:29.279 --> 01:24:32.329
Luther King. I'm referring to the real Martin Luther because
1479
01:24:32.369 --> 01:24:33.750
I keep doing the nailing to the.
1480
01:24:34.289 --> 01:24:35.170
No, I was with you.
1481
01:24:35.670 --> 01:24:37.829
I know you are, but the rest of the adults.
1482
01:24:37.850 --> 01:24:40.840
Hey, remember that time when Jerry Springer was the guest
1483
01:24:40.880 --> 01:24:42.000
host on Monday Night Raw?
1484
01:24:43.420 --> 01:24:45.319
I try to forget that era.
1485
01:24:45.340 --> 01:24:47.670
And they did the segment that was like a spoof
1486
01:24:47.750 --> 01:24:49.989
on his show, and Jerry Lawler was up there talking
1487
01:24:50.010 --> 01:24:53.050
about how he slept with Kelly Kelly, and Jerry Springer
1488
01:24:53.069 --> 01:24:54.590
looked him dead in the eye and said, isn't she
1489
01:24:54.609 --> 01:24:55.569
a little old for you?
1490
01:24:58.449 --> 01:24:59.050
Okay, Robert.
1491
01:25:00.670 --> 01:25:07.279
Rapists. So many rapists. You're a rapist. So I cover...
1492
01:25:08.260 --> 01:25:12.010
Mixed martial arts and professional wrestling. Smackdown on Friday. This
1493
01:25:12.060 --> 01:25:15.829
last Saturday, the UFC was on Halloween in the Apex
1494
01:25:16.430 --> 01:25:19.489
and featured the single, maybe the single worst stand-up I've
1495
01:25:19.529 --> 01:25:24.270
ever seen in my life. And Otto Moicano has the
1496
01:25:24.310 --> 01:25:28.170
back with a full body triangle locked in. And the
1497
01:25:28.210 --> 01:25:30.829
referee goes, you know what? How about we just restart
1498
01:25:30.869 --> 01:25:32.369
this on the feet?
1499
01:25:33.109 --> 01:25:33.710
Oh, wonderful.
1500
01:25:35.489 --> 01:25:39.090
Yeah. You want details, listen to the 411 Grand and
1501
01:25:39.130 --> 01:25:43.760
Pound MMA podcast. This week is... This week lost its
1502
01:25:43.800 --> 01:25:47.539
main event. So now its headliner is Waldo Cortez Acosta
1503
01:25:47.579 --> 01:25:49.699
and Johnny Walker, and I don't know what I'm doing
1504
01:25:49.739 --> 01:25:50.199
with my life.
1505
01:25:51.829 --> 01:25:52.710
Wasting it, I would assume.
1506
01:25:53.590 --> 01:25:54.229
Probably.
1507
01:25:54.250 --> 01:25:56.770
Okay, at least you don't have kids yelling at you
1508
01:25:56.810 --> 01:26:00.199
every weekend. You know.
1509
01:26:01.340 --> 01:26:04.579
The dull silence and then having to watch what the
1510
01:26:04.659 --> 01:26:07.439
UFC has become for seven hours on a Saturday, I
1511
01:26:07.539 --> 01:26:12.399
would welcome the opportunity to expand my life with progeny
1512
01:26:12.430 --> 01:26:15.229
that would enrich it in all kinds of meaningful ways.
1513
01:26:16.170 --> 01:26:20.130
I'm at a Taco Bell with my daughter and her friend. Now,
1514
01:26:20.149 --> 01:26:21.649
she doesn't get to see this friend very often, so
1515
01:26:21.670 --> 01:26:25.689
this was a very special affair. And I won't even
1516
01:26:25.729 --> 01:26:29.649
get into the surrounding stuff about this, about how her parents...
1517
01:26:29.819 --> 01:26:32.619
Just let her get into a car of a strange
1518
01:26:32.640 --> 01:26:36.579
50-year-old without meeting me or exchanging any information. But that's okay.
1519
01:26:36.600 --> 01:26:40.760
My girlfriend said it was fine, Boomer. So it's fine, Boomer.
1520
01:26:40.800 --> 01:26:43.220
It's not fine. I'm with you on that one entirely,
1521
01:26:43.279 --> 01:26:43.939
by the way.
1522
01:26:44.020 --> 01:26:46.380
Let's skip all of that. Let's go straight to I
1523
01:26:46.439 --> 01:26:49.020
took this girl and my two kids to dinner. And
1524
01:26:49.050 --> 01:26:51.310
I'm sitting at the table. And they're talking about how
1525
01:26:51.550 --> 01:26:54.710
my daughter can't find a skirt because it's mixed in
1526
01:26:54.750 --> 01:26:57.560
with a bunch of her black T-shirts. And I go, well,
1527
01:26:57.600 --> 01:26:59.850
you should use some racial segregation and put the shirts
1528
01:26:59.909 --> 01:27:04.170
over here and the skirts over there. And because apparently
1529
01:27:04.229 --> 01:27:07.869
this Fabergé egg
of a child, a 15-year-old child, couldn't
1530
01:27:07.949 --> 01:27:11.859
stand to hear the words publicly said, racial segregation, from
1531
01:27:11.899 --> 01:27:14.680
her father who frequently makes jokes like that, I got
1532
01:27:14.819 --> 01:27:19.239
shushed repeatedly. So, never mind all that.
1533
01:27:19.260 --> 01:27:23.060
Yeah, that does sound pretty terrible.
1534
01:27:23.630 --> 01:27:23.909
Yeah. Yeah.
1535
01:27:25.119 --> 01:27:28.140
How dare you make a suggestion to fix the problem
1536
01:27:28.159 --> 01:27:29.640
that she's complaining about?
1537
01:27:29.760 --> 01:27:31.630
Yes, and I just used a silly word to do it,
1538
01:27:31.670 --> 01:27:34.289
but never mind all that.
1539
01:27:35.289 --> 01:27:39.430
You could have asked why her closet isn't an apartheid
1540
01:27:39.489 --> 01:27:41.630
state where all the different kinds are kept separate.
1541
01:27:42.229 --> 01:27:43.560
I'll keep that in my back pocket.
1542
01:27:43.960 --> 01:27:45.359
Use it next time. You're welcome.
1543
01:27:45.380 --> 01:27:46.220
Yeah, thanks.
1544
01:27:46.680 --> 01:27:47.939
And she'll ask what apartheid means.
1545
01:27:48.680 --> 01:27:51.100
I'm doing my TikTok on Sunday, and it was about
1546
01:27:51.140 --> 01:27:53.579
who gets to say what cooning is. And it was
1547
01:27:53.640 --> 01:27:57.619
my whole thing with Sean discussing Cat Williams. And my
1548
01:27:57.659 --> 01:28:00.789
son comes running out of the room. Father, no! I'm like,
1549
01:28:00.810 --> 01:28:05.510
what's wrong, son? He's like, you are an old white
1550
01:28:05.609 --> 01:28:09.289
guy with a long beard. You can't say cooning on TikTok.
1551
01:28:09.930 --> 01:28:13.800
And I was like, I'm fucking quoting Cat Williams. And
1552
01:28:13.819 --> 01:28:17.140
he was like, no! Like, no one will hear anything
1553
01:28:17.199 --> 01:28:19.659
else you said. They'll just have heard the word coonings.
1554
01:28:20.239 --> 01:28:23.119
I'm like, oh, my God, Jonas, calm the fuck down.
1555
01:28:23.819 --> 01:28:25.850
And I look over and I look at my daughter, who's,
1556
01:28:25.890 --> 01:28:28.109
you know, still repelled by the very.
1557
01:28:27.970 --> 01:28:29.810
Idea that I made a sheet and looking at you
1558
01:28:29.869 --> 01:28:32.329
like your head just rotated 360 degrees.
1559
01:28:32.569 --> 01:28:35.670
You know, just couldn't handle her father, you know, saying
1560
01:28:35.710 --> 01:28:39.470
get another another thing. And I'm like, what do you
1561
01:28:39.489 --> 01:28:39.949
mean another way?
1562
01:28:40.189 --> 01:28:42.010
Epithet in some capacity?
1563
01:28:42.130 --> 01:28:43.470
Look at her. And I'm just like, well, you got
1564
01:28:43.510 --> 01:28:46.449
comments too. And she's just like, you know, father, she
1565
01:28:46.640 --> 01:28:49.180
called me father with disdain in her voice. She said, father,
1566
01:28:52.880 --> 01:28:54.739
you're a grown ass man. If you want to say
1567
01:28:54.800 --> 01:28:56.859
a racial slur and get yourself fired, what am I
1568
01:28:56.880 --> 01:28:59.760
going to do to stop you? I could not have
1569
01:28:59.819 --> 01:29:02.779
dropped them off at their mother's fast enough.
1570
01:29:05.220 --> 01:29:06.939
That may be the worst thing you could have said.
1571
01:29:07.100 --> 01:29:09.779
I couldn't wait to drop you off at your mother's.
1572
01:29:10.159 --> 01:29:12.750
Normally, it's like 7 o'clock. I'm like, oh, I missed you.
1573
01:29:12.869 --> 01:29:13.869
It was 3 o'clock.
1574
01:29:13.890 --> 01:29:16.350
I'm like, get out.
1575
01:29:16.369 --> 01:29:17.069
Get out.
1576
01:29:17.130 --> 01:29:19.050
You're lucky I drove you to the driveway and didn't
1577
01:29:19.090 --> 01:29:21.010
just leave you on the side of the highway. Get out.
1578
01:29:21.649 --> 01:29:24.539
Yeah, I'll just drive past the back and you can
1579
01:29:24.640 --> 01:29:24.939
hop it.
1580
01:29:26.350 --> 01:29:29.289
I'll slow down to about 30 and you can tuck
1581
01:29:29.310 --> 01:29:30.170
your shoulder and roll.
1582
01:29:30.189 --> 01:29:32.100
Oh God, I'm such a monster when I just drive
1583
01:29:32.109 --> 01:29:33.939
into the fucking living room and let him out there.
1584
01:29:35.640 --> 01:29:36.939
Pull a Jamie Lee Curtis.
1585
01:29:37.720 --> 01:29:43.399
Yes. Coding! I just drive out again.
1586
01:29:44.560 --> 01:29:46.180
At which point someone else is going to wait. Did
1587
01:29:46.220 --> 01:29:48.279
you say that with a C or a G? Because
1588
01:29:48.300 --> 01:29:49.539
those mean very different things.
1589
01:29:50.119 --> 01:29:52.960
Oh God, I don't want to hear it. Two weeks ago,
1590
01:29:52.979 --> 01:29:56.409
we were at the movies and... My son's telling me something,
1591
01:29:56.449 --> 01:29:58.350
and I'm like, oh, they were LARPing at something or other.
1592
01:29:58.430 --> 01:30:00.789
I'm just like, I'm actually wrong. I told you this one.
1593
01:30:00.829 --> 01:30:03.470
He's like, LARPing means posing. And I'm like, I hate
1594
01:30:03.489 --> 01:30:05.609
this Orwellian newspeak you guys do.
1595
01:30:06.449 --> 01:30:08.439
I get why LARPing kind of made the jump into
1596
01:30:08.479 --> 01:30:09.380
meaning the same thing.
1597
01:30:09.960 --> 01:30:10.840
They're all idiots.
1598
01:30:11.760 --> 01:30:14.539
Well, that's a universal truth of everyone younger than you.
1599
01:30:15.060 --> 01:30:18.140
That was known by everyone older than you. Fair.
1600
01:30:18.500 --> 01:30:21.939
So now that I'm done venting about my children, let
1601
01:30:21.960 --> 01:30:22.779
me tell you.
1602
01:30:22.800 --> 01:30:23.840
Publicly on the internet.
1603
01:30:24.960 --> 01:30:26.659
A safe place publicly on the internet.
1604
01:30:26.699 --> 01:30:33.520
It really is. I heard unironically the appropriate counter to that.
1605
01:30:33.619 --> 01:30:39.819
The internet never forgets. If it's on the internet, it's forever. Yeah,
1606
01:30:39.859 --> 01:30:42.460
but attention is real finite and the internet's real big.
1607
01:30:42.960 --> 01:30:47.399
Yeah. By the way, this TikTok that was going to
1608
01:30:47.439 --> 01:30:49.239
get me banned from the internet and called of it
1609
01:30:50.439 --> 01:30:54.600
currently has a little less than 1,000 views. And something
1610
01:30:54.659 --> 01:30:57.770
like 100 likes or something like that. A lot of
1611
01:30:57.810 --> 01:30:59.909
black folks, by the way. So, you know.
1612
01:31:01.250 --> 01:31:04.350
That's because you don't patronize people on the internet. You
1613
01:31:04.390 --> 01:31:05.310
just speak your mind.
1614
01:31:05.569 --> 01:31:09.789
Right. And I have a small enough audience that actually listens. So,
1615
01:31:10.170 --> 01:31:13.270
you know. Whatever. He's 12. What the fuck does he know?
1616
01:31:14.520 --> 01:31:17.560
The TikTok algorithm.
1617
01:31:17.600 --> 01:31:17.920
Anyway.
1618
01:31:17.939 --> 01:31:20.380
Something else I was going to say to you before
1619
01:31:20.399 --> 01:31:26.789
we end the show tonight. Um. It escaped me. But yes,
1620
01:31:27.630 --> 01:31:33.630
that is our show. Oh, yeah. Okay, now I remember. So, like,
1621
01:31:34.229 --> 01:31:36.300
my friend was asking me how my weekend was, and
1622
01:31:36.350 --> 01:31:38.939
I said, you want to know how my mood is
1623
01:31:38.979 --> 01:31:40.800
this weekend after what I had to deal with with
1624
01:31:40.840 --> 01:31:44.659
my kids who don't stop complaining about me? The father
1625
01:31:44.699 --> 01:31:47.500
who loves them so much. I sent her the video
1626
01:31:48.279 --> 01:31:54.850
of Pappy from the Popeye movie singing about kids. You
1627
01:31:54.869 --> 01:31:57.130
give him candy. You give him toys. And what do
1628
01:31:57.149 --> 01:32:00.189
you get? You get a lot of noise. Na, na, na, na, na, na.
1629
01:32:00.409 --> 01:32:03.430
Papa don't know nothing. Ugh, children.
1630
01:32:03.829 --> 01:32:07.369
That's a glorious callback. I'm glad you made it.
1631
01:32:07.760 --> 01:32:11.680
All fucking day in my head. So, if you'd ever
1632
01:32:11.720 --> 01:32:13.640
like the thankless job of being a father, you can
1633
01:32:13.659 --> 01:32:15.199
have it for a day. Just for a day, though.
1634
01:32:15.300 --> 01:32:16.100
I'm going to want it back.
1635
01:32:16.539 --> 01:32:17.520
Look, I will have it.
1636
01:32:17.800 --> 01:32:18.720
Thankless as it is.
1637
01:32:20.659 --> 01:32:22.260
I'll worry about my own kids, not yours.
1638
01:32:22.279 --> 01:32:28.760
Okay, well. Like I said, you may buckle under the
1639
01:32:28.800 --> 01:32:31.510
dull silence of your household and the occasional having to
1640
01:32:31.590 --> 01:32:33.529
cover a UFC event, but at least you don't have
1641
01:32:33.550 --> 01:32:36.850
a 12-year-old stopping you from allegedly making an ass out
1642
01:32:36.869 --> 01:32:37.850
of yourself on the internet.
1643
01:32:38.989 --> 01:32:43.039
I will also have no problem dismissing the concerns of
1644
01:32:43.079 --> 01:32:46.100
a 12-year-old about what I'm going to do publicly.
1645
01:32:46.479 --> 01:32:48.489
It's the feather that's breaking the camel's back.
1646
01:32:49.069 --> 01:32:52.710
I'm sorry about that. The appropriate thing to do next
1647
01:32:52.750 --> 01:32:55.229
time he expresses himself that way is to just go,
1648
01:32:55.250 --> 01:32:56.789
you know what? I'm going to do it even more
1649
01:32:56.869 --> 01:33:00.229
in public when I'm out with you. Then the next
1650
01:33:00.300 --> 01:33:02.979
time you're at the Taco Bell, gather your children close
1651
01:33:03.020 --> 01:33:06.880
in your arms and loudly have the discussion about... Oh, no, no.
1652
01:33:06.880 --> 01:33:08.279
My next time I go to take the Taco Bell,
1653
01:33:08.319 --> 01:33:10.319
I'm going to have them sit at their own fucking chair.
1654
01:33:10.359 --> 01:33:13.390
I'm like, I'll be over here not offending anybody, you
1655
01:33:13.439 --> 01:33:14.270
pansy fucks.
1656
01:33:15.130 --> 01:33:15.630
So....
1657
01:33:16.899 --> 01:33:19.800
As I say loudly in the Taco Bell. Which, considering
1658
01:33:19.840 --> 01:33:21.619
the way the Taco Bells operate now, may not be
1659
01:33:21.659 --> 01:33:22.100
out of place.
1660
01:33:22.979 --> 01:33:26.159
No, I'm just going to say, you'd fit right in
1661
01:33:26.199 --> 01:33:27.880
with Taco Bell. If you want to make a scene,
1662
01:33:27.899 --> 01:33:28.779
you go to Wendy's.
1663
01:33:30.729 --> 01:33:32.810
Sir, this is a Wendy's. Calm yourself.
1664
01:33:33.369 --> 01:33:36.550
And if you ever get really fed up with them,
1665
01:33:36.569 --> 01:33:37.470
you go to Waffle House.
1666
01:33:38.409 --> 01:33:39.170
Just leave them there?
1667
01:33:39.890 --> 01:33:42.649
No, but then you have the discussion with them in
1668
01:33:42.689 --> 01:33:44.489
Waffle House, so you start a fight.
1669
01:33:45.069 --> 01:33:48.279
I see. All right, I think I'm done venting about
1670
01:33:48.300 --> 01:33:50.399
my children and safe space on the internet.
1671
01:33:51.609 --> 01:33:53.810
Well, I'm a safe space if the internet isn't, so.
1672
01:33:54.329 --> 01:33:58.529
Yes, indeedy. All right, so for Robert Winfrey, I'm sweaty
1673
01:33:58.550 --> 01:34:20.170
and coughing. Be well, be safe, and behave. Got to get,
1674
01:34:20.390 --> 01:34:23.170
got to get, got to, got to, got to get
1675
01:34:23.250 --> 01:34:23.569
money