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Well, on, I need to interrupt you. You were shy.
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Oh my gosh.
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Becoming an actor actually changes like who I am at
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as an individual. My first few audition experiences would I
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would like go to the audition. There were multiple where
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I went to the audition and you can back in
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the day, we did it in real life. Sometimes now
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it's just through tape, but you can hear the other
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people doing things like acting. And there was like a
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horror movie I was auditioning for, and you had to
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like peek through a hole and then the monster grabs
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your eye and rip your eyeball out, so then you
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have to like scream on the floor and roll around
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in agony.
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And I was like, oh, I can't do that.
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I will feel so like self conscious and I'll just
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feel dumb, and so I left.
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Welcome friends, I am so grateful that you're here today
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with me on Quick Before You Forget, which is a
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personal development podcast about building your unreal life from the
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ground up using music, mindset, and movement to remember who
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you are while becoming who you want to be today.
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I am here, I am honored. I am hyped to
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welcome Brent Bailey, who you may recognize and Know and
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love as Chris k from Target. But there's a lot
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more to the story. Born in Tucson and raised between
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Texas and Arizona, Brent Bailey came to Hollywood with intention,
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armed with a master's in business and a long game
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mindset to go along with it. You've seen him more
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time than you realize, from nearly one hundred and fifty
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commercials for brands like Herts, Clorox, and Shell, to stand
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out roles in film and television, including LBJ, The Idea
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of You, and The Lincoln Lawyer. Brent's here today because
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his career sits at the intersection of creativity, reinvention, and
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staying power, and we're talking about what it really takes
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to evolve, stay grounded, and keep building when the path
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is not linear. Brent, welcome to Quick before you forget,
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Thank you.
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Wow, that was an amazing intro.
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Thank you so thank you. I appreciate it. So today
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we're here to talk through your story, past, present and future.
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So first let's go back. What is a childhood memory
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that you have that shaped who you are today?
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Oh my gosh, we're starting just with the heavy question
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that's tough to.
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Like narrow it down to one.
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I mean, obviously I think not to be like cheesy,
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but my watching my parents and like their relationship and
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how they treated other people, I think shaped me as
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an individual for life. They were just always such good
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people that treated everybody kindly. My dad was an incredibly
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hard worker that started as like a tire tech at
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Discount Tire and then worked.
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His way up to senior vice president.
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So I was just kind of taught from a young
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age that work ethic and.
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Being nice to people is just kind of common sense.
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And so thankfully that carried on.
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What is something you said your parents? Your dad worked
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hard and he had you know, what lessons did you
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learn from that effort that he put in when you
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were watching him as a say, you were a twelve
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year old boy watching your dad do the hard work.
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What what's your takeaway from that?
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I think it was a couple of things.
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I Mean, one of the things that I think I
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learned quickly was that nothing comes easy. If you want something,
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you have to, you know, really go for it.
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If you if you go.
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Half asked on it, then the chances are you're Brian
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not going to succeed. And I think that's something a
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lot of us do is we don't ever fully commit
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to something, so that way, if you do somehow fail,
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you have an excuse because you can be like, well,
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I didn't I didn't fully try. So I almost think
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we do that as like a built in insurance. But
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then I think the other side of it is just
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seeing what you want. I saw what he wanted. I
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knew he wanted more success. I knew he wanted a
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better life for us, and so I think, you know,
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kind of like the law of attraction, where he like
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visualized where he wanted to be.
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In ten years and set goals.
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And that taught me very much at an early age,
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especially when I started acting like I made goals every
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year of like all right, this year, I want to
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try to get a co star and a national commercial,
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and like next year I want to get this, and
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then to go with those goals, then you set up
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your plan. I was like, so I need to take
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acting classes, I need some great hedge scots, I need
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to network and get a great manager an agent. And
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so I think just watching him build his career and
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also watching my mom gave me all the tools that
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I needed to try to, you know, make my own success.
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So I heard you set some goals and that there's
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this thing about goals. We have this this idea and
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that we're working towards something and that's really special. And
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life happens like stuff happens, and their setbacks and their
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struggle on your way to those goals. So, as you've
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been working through what it looks like to do the
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hard work and to set the goals and work toward them,
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what is a setback that you saw as something that
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happened for you rather than to you.
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I mean, I think you.
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Know, obviously in this business, and I think in life
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in general for everybody, if there's always going to be setbacks.
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If you somehow have the absolute gift that you try
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something and it just happens easy and nothing goes wrong,
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then congratulations, that's incredible. I almost think that's a bad
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thing because with all the setbacks and with all the failures,
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you learn so much and you grow and evolve, and
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then when you actually get to where you wanted to be,
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or at least in a place where you're getting closer
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to where you want to be, because I feel like
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that goalpost is always moving, I don't I think Matthew
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McConaughey says it in a speech like you never actually
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arrive at your goal and you're done. The goalpost keeps moving.
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So I think if you get there too easily, it
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starts to become very easy to take it for granted
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and to not really appreciate it as much rather than
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if you have to work hard than when you do
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get there, you're so much more excited. And I think
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for me, there's there's been lots of them. I mean,
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in this business, there's constant rejection. I mean, everybody does
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get to see that. I'm so grateful that I do
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work very often, but for every job that people see
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me on, I probably got fifty no's somewhere else. It's
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a tough town, it's a tough business. It has an
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immense amount of hurdles, and it's basically I've signed up
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for a career with constant rejection and always being told
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like you don't have enough, and you're like, all right, see,
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you just keep pushing forward.
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So part of what I'm talking through on this podcast
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is how to work with your mindset and how to
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train your mind to work through those kinds of things.
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And in the career you're in you said, like, the
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rejection is real, and it happens, and it's just part
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of it. But how do you, like, how do you
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do that? Tell? Like, for for everyday people that don't
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act and aren't necessarily facing that kind of reject on
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a daily basis, we could learn from how resilient somebody
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that does acting and has to work through all that rejection,
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how that resilience comes to life in what you do
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and how you practice that every day. So if you
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had to back up and kind of, you know, thirty
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thousand foot level, tell a friend who you know just
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got rejected and isn't as used to it as you
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might be, what kind of tools do you use in
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your head to work through those those rejections that you're
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at a level where it's just kind of something you
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can work with.
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I mean, I think the harder part of that because
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it's a whole other obstacle.
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But you have to be happy with your life. You
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have to be happy with who you are as a person.
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You have to surround yourself with like friends and family
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or a partner that you really enjoy spending time with.
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And then there's other areas, especially when it comes to acting, finances, like,
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you have to be smart with your finances. When you
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do get that job where you make some money, people
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have a tendency to like up their lifestyle and go
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buy like a fancy car or something that like Listen,
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You'll obviously celebrate your wins, but if you increase your
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spending so quickly and you don't sustain that working, now
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you're in this crisis mode of oh my gosh, every
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no seems so much worse because I don't know if
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I'm going to be able to pay my rent this month.
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So I think for me that was where the masters
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and business came in handy is I was always really
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smart financially, so that way the pressure of making money
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wasn't as big of a deal. And then I'm also
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just so grateful that I'm happy in life and I'm
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so happy with my girlfriend.
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We have a wonderful dog.
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My parents are amazing, So it makes the nose on
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the career not as terrible because they don't. My career
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doesn't define me. It's just something I really enjoyed doing.
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And I also don't take it as like a personal
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ego ahead and I think there's enough work to go around,
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and I go Okay, great, I didn't get that, but
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somebody else is so excited because they just got that job,
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and then on the next one it'll be my turn.
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And like we don't always have to win everything, we
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can share. So I think I just make my mentality
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that it's good for somebody else and they're really happy.
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Which makes me happy.
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And that even though you're going to get a hundred no's,
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when you get that one, yes, it's still going to
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feel awesome.
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That is so true and that is such an abundant
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way to think about it, just thinking as it benefits
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other folks and not you know, there's somebody out there
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that's having the best day of their life every single
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day you're having a bad one, and isn't that something
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to be grateful for? Actually? And all through all happens
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through a village too. You said, you know you're you're
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the people that you surround yourself with matter and they
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all play into your story. So thank you for sharing that.
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You did mention learning from setbacks, and that makes me
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wonder and I kind of almost want to double click
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there on what is a set Can you walk us
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through a setback that you've had, specifically that you learned
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like a replicable lesson from for people.
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I mean, yeah, it's a great question. Uh.
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I think the hard part with this business too is
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there's so many different avenues you can go. So there
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is like the commercial world, there's you know, TV and film,
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there's theater, there's like.
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Soap operas, like there's there's so many different.
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Routes that you can go that kind of shape your
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career in a different way. And I have been so
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lucky to do both, but I have done so many
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commercials that sometimes people do go, oh, you're You're just
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the commercial guy. And I did have an agent way
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back in the day where I was testing for a
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soap opera, but the money was, unfortunately, and it'd be
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so much less than I was making with doing both
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TV and film and commercial, and so I passed on it.
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And because of that, I got dropped by the agent.
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And I was totally blindsided by that and I didn't
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see it coming. But that that did kind of just
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teach me that I have to make sure that I
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communicate that like my overall goals, how this is going
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to benefit both parties and all.
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So it did make me.
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Rethink things a little bit in the sense of like
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what do I want, Like, do I just want to
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do commercials forever? Do I want to go do more film?
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Do I like just doing TV movies? And so it
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kind of just gives you a moment to check in
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and say where am I at now? Where do I
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want to be in the future, and then you can
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kind of go from there. And I think you almost
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need those little setbacks to remind you, like, hey, I
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need to check in with myself and just make sure
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I'm okay with this path I'm on, so that you
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don't end up, you know, fifty years down the road
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and be like, oh man, I should have thought.
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About that earlier. So I think that's where the benefits.
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Of the the either like reminders or setbacks have been
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for me, is just to put myself in check and
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make sure I'm still doing what I want to do.
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So let's talk the wins then, because you said, you know,
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we've talked about like the not so fun parts. What's
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been a really fun, exciting moment that you celebrated a
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win I've had?
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want to sound cheesy, but I've had so many wins.
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I playing Santa, even like some people hate some people
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love it. It was like one of the most fun
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jobs I've ever had because I don't I'm typically more
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of like a straight actor. I just kind of play
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myself and with with Chris, I got to be this
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character and I got to have so much fun, and
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I got to play with so many of the people
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on set with improv like it was just an absolute blast,
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more than I think I even realized it would be.
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in and like meeting you, it's all such a wonderful experience.
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So that would just be one example.
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But like you know, I just worked with Tom Brady,
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who doesn't want to meet Tom Brady.
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That guy is incredible, and.
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like it's weird to be sharing a room with you,
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or when I I mean, it's I guess it's always
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like people motivated, Like I loved working with Anne Hathaway.
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I got to do that movie LBJ with Rob Reiner,
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who unfortunately has passed away, and that is like a
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moment that I extremely cherish because I'm so lucky to
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have been able to not only met him, but to
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like have spent time with him and been directed by him.
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My The wins, I think, gratefully and thankfully have continued,
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and I don't know why they've decided to let me
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keep working so much, but I'm very excited about it.
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We all are. So you go to see you how
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to keep going? Goodness, gracious, you said something that is
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my love language, which is people. You said, you know,
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the thing that makes you enjoy celebrating the wins is
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the people. And that brings me back to a more
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of a reflective place where I want to know who
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is a person, a transition figure in your life for good,
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somebody that you learned a lesson from, or somebody that
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believed in you or saw you or made you feel
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seen when you needed it. Who really changed your life
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in the trajectory of your life.
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I think it's you know, it's obviously a ton of people,
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my parents being the biggest ones. And then if you're
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just going into actually like the career, it's usually just
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my friends that I'm so rounded by, or people that
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I look up to, maybe I don't even know them
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like I see Glenn Powell lately, and I have so
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much respect for him and I am like such a
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big fan rooting for his career even though he doesn't
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know who I am. But there's like so many people
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where I'm like, oh, or like Ashton Kutcher, like he's
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got a new show coming out, and I saw the
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billboard and I was like, yes, this guy's making a
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Like not that he needs a comeback, he's like a
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multi billionaire from being a genius entrepreneur, But it's those
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kind of things where I think I have like my
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role models, I guess is a better way to say that.
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And then also like I've got an acting coach named
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John Rosenfeld who is like such a big supporter who
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makes me want to try harder, like always keeps pushing me,
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and then watching the people in class like when they win,
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it makes me want.
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To try harder. So I think it all sort.
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Of revolves around the community of watching everybody else succeed,
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which makes me excited and then is also trying hard
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to keep up with all of that.
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That's you said something really cool there about being a fan.
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So I have this this image of being a fangirl
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in my head where I tend to fan girl over
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things that I care about, over things that I love,
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over music and songs and different books that I love.
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And I do that because I know what it takes
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to create something, and it takes a lot of emotional energy,
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and I want to share something that brings me that
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kind of peace and happiness and joy with whoever will
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have it. Right. So what you said about fanning over,
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I think you said Ashton Kutcher was one of them,
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and it just I feel seen in that, and I
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wanted to say thank you because it's we think we
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think about transition figures as people, you know, like your parents,
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and that's that's an obvious choice, or you know, maybe
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a teacher or something. But you don't always get to
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meet the people that inspire you. And it's it's cool
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when you get to call them out and something like
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this and say, yes, this, this person's doing something really cool.
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And you know, I think being a fangirl is a
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superpower because I think that the people that find way
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is to elevate and spotlight the hard work and energy
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and effort that's going on behind the scenes with because yes,
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like you said, Ashton's done a lot of amazing things
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and he's made some good impact in the world, and
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he's a genius, you know, creative person, and you know,
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he's a human being and it's in a lot of
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effort and a lot of energy and a lot of
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soul goes into that stuff. So whether or not they
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ever know that the that they have impacted us, it's
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cool to have just to think about. You know, a star,
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a Chris k a Target Santa is just like Tai Schmidt,
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who looks up to people and is inspired by people
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that you know, we don't always get to meet. It's
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just it's cool and I look up to you and
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I'm inspired by you, and I'm grateful for the chance
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to even talk with you today, which honestly feels unreal
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to me, and yet here we are and I'm just
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so grateful. So let's go back. It's just I'm just
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having so much fun, So thank you. I I want
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to go back to the the question I had about
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the version of you in the past. You know, we
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talked about the childhood memory, and I want to know, like,
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because you've lived this life that's very exciting, and you know,
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there's been there's been good, there's been bad, But what
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would you if you could, if you had the chance
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to go back and talk to your twenty two year
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old self, what would you say.
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That's such an interesting age you picked, because that's exactly
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when I became an actor, was at twenty two. So
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I mean, I think, well, that's so hard because part
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of me wants to go back and be like, hey,
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don't worry, it's all going to work out. But I
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almost wonder if that would be detrimental, because I think
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part of the not knowing makes me try so much harder.
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I almost feel like if you the tough part about
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like knowing the future is you can almost become complacent
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or you can do things now because you have that
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information that actually alters your path. So I don't know
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that I would say anything. I think I would just
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want to go back and observe and be like, man,
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who was I back then because it was so long ago,
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and be more of a fly on the wall. I
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mean obviously i'd be like, hey, buy some bitcoin, but.
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Make different investments.
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Right. Well, then again, even if I did that, like that,
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that changes everything. I mean, that's the whole like butterfly effect,
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So that'd be tough. I think I would if I
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could go back and like see my prior self. I
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know this isn't even the question, but I've altered it.
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But I think I would just go back and observe
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and just like really appreciate where I was then, because
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then it would make me appreciate where I am now
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even more.
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That is not an answer I expected at all, and
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I'm so grateful for it, Like honestly, like you just
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want to see it, you just want to live it again, honestly,
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And that's that's amazing to me from a.
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Place I've always listen, everybody's different. Anytime anybody's ever got
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been like, hey, what.
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Would you go back and change?
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I always go nothing, because if I go back and
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change something, what's the goal. I'm so happy right now.
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What if what I change now makes it where I'm
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not happy? And like, I don't think I'm going to
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be happier because of something I've changed in the past,
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because it's shaped to a m.
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As an individual, and it's brought me to the exact point.
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So for me, I'm like, no, I've learned from everything,
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whether good or bad, and some of it's been hard,
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but like that's what life is.
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If you skip all the hard stuff.
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I don't even feel like you get to become like
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a full individual, right, So I always just say nothing.
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I take all of it for what it was, and
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this whole life is an experience. And if I'm happy now,
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then great. If I did start changing the answer and
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saying there's something I would want to change, then I
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think it would make me check in more with my
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current self and say, what's wrong, what's wrong? Why aren't
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you happy? Why do you need to change something from
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the past. And at that point then it's like, well,
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then why worry about the past. Change something now so
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that in ten years you can be like, man, I'm
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glad I made that change because now I'm so much happier.
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Speaking of your present self, I wanted to talk with
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you about the opportunity that we're going to make up.
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It's like we're playing pretend here. So think about in
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this present moment, because we are grateful for what we
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have present moment, what one message would you communicate to
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the world if you had a megaphone and you knew
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that everybody was listening.
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Oh gosh, so many things.
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I feel like we overcomplicate this, which is causing like
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the divide that we have, and I feel like if
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we could just take it back to the basic principles
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of like be nice, Like I wish we could go
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back to like if you don't have anything nice to say,
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say nothing at all.
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Amen were just the people.
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Didn't feel like I feel like there's there's there's three sides,
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even though that makes no sense. There's like one extreme,
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the other extreme, and then there's this huge population that
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I think is actually living in the middle, and everybody's
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just so scared to say anything because they don't want
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to get in trouble, they don't want to get canceled, they.
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Don't want to get judged by both of the extremes.
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And but I do think the majority of the people
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really do live in the middle, where we are just
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human beings that want the best for everybody.
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And I think that's.
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Getting a little bit overshadowed, unfortunately by terrible things that
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are happening in the world, but also just by people
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that are enjoying making things into massive fights. And so
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I wish we could all just drop our guards a bit,
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like our defenses, and be like, hey, we all agree
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we want this place to be better. Let's figure out
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how to do it instead of fighting, because when has
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it ever resulted in like.
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A positive outcome with fighting?
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It just I mean, I get that sometimes you have
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to yell at people, but at the same time, we've
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just stopped listening.
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Everybody just yells at everybody else.
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Nobody listens anymore, and I think more people agree than
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we realize on being good humans. So I hope we
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can find our way back to that. And unfortunately, as
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much as social media and the internet has brought so
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many wonderful opportunities, it's also created this this like echo
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chamber and also the ability for so many fake things
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to be put out that just reinforce whatever stance you've
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taken in Like it's almost designed to make you angrier
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and to make you more upset with the world.
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And it's tough. We're in a weird spot. I fear
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for the future.
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My girlfriend I even talk about this with like having
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a kid, Like I would love to have a kid.
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I think we will, but I'm terrified of like what
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that future world looks like.
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I'm hoping that's just something.
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Every generation goes through, Like my parents hopefully felt that
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way too.
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It is you should ask your parents, Yeah, I'll ask
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them might be surprised by the answer, honestly, So you
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said something about listening, and you know that that makes
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me want to double down on that because I think
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a lot of us have a lot to say, and
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I really want this, this podcast even to be a
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platform for people to share their stories. But how do
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you become a better listener? Like, how do we collectively
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be better listeners for for people?
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I mean, I think first of all, and I'm a
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relatively stubborn person, but part of it is like dropping
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our egos and like just hearing the people like we
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don't I don't know.
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Why anybody thinks that.
490
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I think there's like nine billion people on the planet
491
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or something. I don't know why anybody thinks we're all
492
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going to agree on everything or anything for that matter.
493
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But I do think that we all are built with
494
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like basic fundamental principles on like how to live and
495
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what is right and what is wrong. So if we
496
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can just get past you totally agreeing with everything I'm
497
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saying and just get on that baseline of like let's
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all be kind, then I think that's a good start.
499
00:23:31.240 --> 00:23:33.559
But there's this thing called.
500
00:23:33.400 --> 00:23:36.319
A confirmation bias, and so like you decide on what
501
00:23:36.359 --> 00:23:38.160
you've decided, and then you just go search the internet
502
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to find something that backs up your view and you're like, yeah,
503
00:23:40.440 --> 00:23:43.319
that's so easy to do, but maybe just think of
504
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things from another person's perspective, like step outside of your
505
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shoes for a second. Yeah, I don't know, I don't
506
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know what the solution is. I think a lot of
507
00:23:51.680 --> 00:23:53.920
people are trying to find the solution to this and
508
00:23:55.200 --> 00:23:58.759
it's tough, but yeah, I think, you know, asking questions,
509
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doing things like this, watching interviews, reading books, learning different perspectives,
510
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studying different religions, like opening your mind to a world
511
00:24:07.400 --> 00:24:10.119
outside of your own just so you can better understand
512
00:24:10.200 --> 00:24:10.759
somebody else.
513
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Seems to be like the good start.
514
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But I understand we're all busy and everybody's got things
515
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to do, and it's tough.
516
00:24:18.519 --> 00:24:21.079
It is, but it doesn't have to be because every
517
00:24:21.720 --> 00:24:23.279
one of us gets to choose every day, right, we
518
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get we get to choose, We get to honestly, sometimes
519
00:24:26.680 --> 00:24:29.720
just close your mouth, count to ten, let the other
520
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person finish what they're saying. You know, it's it's not
521
00:24:32.880 --> 00:24:37.960
rocket science. That feels it feels so ethereal sometimes, but really, honestly.
522
00:24:37.559 --> 00:24:40.000
It's not and I get in trouble over this a
523
00:24:40.000 --> 00:24:42.720
lot because I was obviously gone to therapy. I think
524
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therapy should That's probably a dangerous thing to say, but
525
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I think therapy should basically be required at some point
526
00:24:47.079 --> 00:24:49.839
in your life because it's it's just a good idea.
527
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To have like a sounding board, have a professional to
528
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talk to.
529
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We all have moments of crisis and like chaos, so
530
00:24:54.960 --> 00:24:57.160
it's never a bad idea and.
531
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I hate that it's like this. Luckily it's gotten better.
532
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I think I was a kid.
533
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I was even afraid to tell my parents that I
534
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went to therapy because I thought that meant that I
535
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was there's something was wrong with.
536
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Me, And I was like, no, I just needed to talk.
537
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Like I think, first of all, as much as we
538
00:25:10.559 --> 00:25:12.440
need to listen, I do think we need people to
539
00:25:12.440 --> 00:25:13.920
be able to talk, because I think that's where these
540
00:25:13.960 --> 00:25:16.880
outbursts and like these rage incidents happen.
541
00:25:17.759 --> 00:25:20.279
But I, oh, gosh, now where was I going on this?
542
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Oh?
543
00:25:21.039 --> 00:25:24.079
So sometimes I have learned because I do this to
544
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myself even if I'm having a bad day. I call
545
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it like putting things into perspective, but there's another word
546
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for it, where it's like invalidating your feelings. But I'm like, listen, yes,
547
00:25:34.480 --> 00:25:37.200
it like at such a bummer. You got rear ended today.
548
00:25:37.319 --> 00:25:41.400
Somebody else's parents died today, or somebody else's lost a child,
549
00:25:41.880 --> 00:25:44.799
or in another country, somebody just got bombed. Like, we
550
00:25:44.880 --> 00:25:47.839
got to put things into perspective, because it's so easy
551
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to go doom and gloom on your own life. But
552
00:25:50.519 --> 00:25:52.559
if you put things into like a macro, you're like,
553
00:25:52.640 --> 00:25:56.640
oh my gosh, my problems are so small, and especially
554
00:25:56.720 --> 00:25:58.640
with me being in Los Angeles and being an actor,
555
00:25:59.599 --> 00:26:03.240
like you boohoo, you like you lost a job somebody
556
00:26:03.240 --> 00:26:05.400
else like you can't get down on that stuff.
557
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And I know that that's sort of dangerous, but.
558
00:26:08.000 --> 00:26:10.559
That's how I usually get past most things, as I
559
00:26:10.640 --> 00:26:13.359
just go to like, even is my worst day is
560
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still better than somebody else's best day.
561
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And I think that has helped me a lot. But yeah,
562
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I don't know. I think it's tricky.
563
00:26:21.559 --> 00:26:25.799
We can validate the feeling without diminishing it, right, you can.
564
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You can feel the feelings and work through that without
565
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having it be you know, not as you know apples
566
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and oranges situation, but you know, it reminds me of
567
00:26:36.000 --> 00:26:39.480
we I broke my phone in August, and it was
568
00:26:39.799 --> 00:26:42.880
I was so sad. I was. I was heart broken
569
00:26:43.279 --> 00:26:45.920
because I dropped my phone in the hot tub and
570
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you know, first world problems first of all. But then
571
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also a month later, our house flooded and like we
572
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had four inches of water in our basement and we
573
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ended up having about sixty thousand dollars worth of damage
574
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to our house. And I'll tell you, did that shift
575
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my perspective about my broken phone?
576
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Right?
577
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Yes? Yes, in real time, I thought, gee, I thought
578
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I had it so hard having that little phone be broken,
579
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when really, like the you know, might now my house
580
00:27:14.799 --> 00:27:17.640
is still and you know, we're still in transition, because
581
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that's what you do. You work through it and you
582
00:27:20.359 --> 00:27:24.720
find a way. But it's fascinating perspective matters, and that
583
00:27:24.720 --> 00:27:26.839
that's a that's a very good that's a very good
584
00:27:27.440 --> 00:27:29.440
piece of advice for people. Just to keep in mind.
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You know your your you said your worst day, you
586
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know your best day, worst day. That that line you
587
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said was very good. So I'll have to go back
588
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and clip that line because that was awesome. So thank you.
589
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I'm wondering to take it to a little bit of
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a happier place. I'm wondering, what is something unreal that's
591
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happened to you or for you, or you know in
592
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your life, Like walk me through an unreal moment and
593
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what you gained or learned or benefited from it.
594
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I mean, I think the fact that I'm even here
595
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to talk to you and that I am an actor
596
00:28:01.640 --> 00:28:04.319
is an unreal moment for me because I had no
597
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intentions of being an actor. I was a very, very
598
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shy computer nerd, and that's what I went to school for.
599
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I was a computer programmer.
600
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I was, well, I need to interrupt you. You were shy.
601
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Oh my gosh.
602
00:28:18.279 --> 00:28:20.559
Becoming an actor actually changed like who I am as
603
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an individual. My first few audition experiences would I would
604
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like go to the audition. There were multiple where I
605
00:28:27.799 --> 00:28:29.519
went to the audition and you can back in the day,
606
00:28:29.559 --> 00:28:30.519
we did it in real life.
607
00:28:30.559 --> 00:28:33.039
Sometimes now it's just through tape, but you can hear
608
00:28:33.119 --> 00:28:35.480
the other people doing things like acting.
609
00:28:36.400 --> 00:28:38.880
And there was like a horror movie I was auditioning for,
610
00:28:39.000 --> 00:28:40.920
and you had to like peek through a hole and
611
00:28:40.920 --> 00:28:43.200
then the monster grabs your eye and rip your eyeball out,
612
00:28:43.240 --> 00:28:44.799
so then you have to like scream on the floor
613
00:28:44.799 --> 00:28:47.039
and like roll around in agony, and I was like, oh,
614
00:28:47.079 --> 00:28:50.000
I can't do that. I will feel so like self
615
00:28:50.039 --> 00:28:52.160
conscious and I'll just feel dumb, and so I left.
616
00:28:53.440 --> 00:28:55.880
I would not like if I was out at a
617
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bar or something. I didn't talk to people. I had
618
00:28:58.400 --> 00:29:00.319
like a very very small group of friends.
619
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In high school. I just was very introverted.
620
00:29:02.960 --> 00:29:08.359
I kept myself and I had no real social skills
621
00:29:09.119 --> 00:29:11.240
other than like, you know, if my parents' friends came over.
622
00:29:11.319 --> 00:29:14.960
I was very polite and respectful. But when I switched
623
00:29:14.960 --> 00:29:19.000
into being an actor, it like shifted my entire personality
624
00:29:19.039 --> 00:29:21.519
into a different person, and it gave me so much
625
00:29:21.599 --> 00:29:23.720
freedom to like have so much more fun and be
626
00:29:24.359 --> 00:29:27.519
more myself as opposed to like this little shell of
627
00:29:27.559 --> 00:29:30.880
a person. So I think that is like my biggest
628
00:29:31.079 --> 00:29:33.720
change in my life that I'm so grateful for, because
629
00:29:33.759 --> 00:29:35.839
I think I'm so much happier now as this human
630
00:29:35.839 --> 00:29:37.200
being than I was as the.
631
00:29:37.160 --> 00:29:39.839
Previous How did you break through being shy? Though?
632
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Like?
633
00:29:40.079 --> 00:29:42.200
What how did you make that change?
634
00:29:42.720 --> 00:29:43.119
Doing it?
635
00:29:43.359 --> 00:29:43.440
You?
636
00:29:43.559 --> 00:29:43.680
Just?
637
00:29:43.799 --> 00:29:47.039
I mean it's like like there's even there's like UCB,
638
00:29:47.160 --> 00:29:48.839
which is an improv school here, and.
639
00:29:48.759 --> 00:29:50.599
Then there's like you know, stand up comedians and everything,
640
00:29:50.640 --> 00:29:52.640
so you I think it's called flappers.
641
00:29:52.720 --> 00:29:55.519
So they take business people and regular people that don't
642
00:29:55.519 --> 00:29:57.640
want to be actors and they tell them to take
643
00:29:57.640 --> 00:29:59.960
these classes because it like puts you in a really
644
00:30:00.000 --> 00:30:03.839
the uncomfortable situation and it makes you grow. And either
645
00:30:03.920 --> 00:30:05.960
I guess you quit the class and you decide to
646
00:30:05.960 --> 00:30:07.720
go back to who you were, or you're like, oh,
647
00:30:07.839 --> 00:30:10.119
like it like sort of demystifies, it makes it a
648
00:30:10.200 --> 00:30:13.359
lot less scary, and it also teaches you some tools
649
00:30:13.400 --> 00:30:15.519
on how to talk, how to how to carry on
650
00:30:15.559 --> 00:30:18.759
a conversation, like how to yes and and so it
651
00:30:18.759 --> 00:30:19.759
gives you more skills.
652
00:30:19.759 --> 00:30:21.599
And I think that's like how I.
653
00:30:21.640 --> 00:30:26.279
Became less shy was by continuously going out and talking
654
00:30:26.279 --> 00:30:29.200
to people and doing these auditions and taking classes and
655
00:30:29.240 --> 00:30:31.359
just learning to be more comfortable with myself.
656
00:30:31.839 --> 00:30:34.680
So that's that's powerful, Like that is I just need
657
00:30:34.680 --> 00:30:38.079
to respect, Like hello, that is an incredible thing that
658
00:30:38.119 --> 00:30:40.920
a lot of people can't do. And it's because it's hard.
659
00:30:40.960 --> 00:30:43.640
It's because it's uncomfortable. It's because you're walking through the
660
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mud and you're on the floor screaming about an eyeball
661
00:30:46.440 --> 00:30:50.480
getting ripped out or whatever. That's funny, Like.
662
00:30:50.480 --> 00:30:51.079
Back in the day.
663
00:30:51.119 --> 00:30:52.680
That's like when I mean when I was a kid,
664
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like that's what you didd you may you played pretend
665
00:30:55.400 --> 00:30:57.799
like right run around the backyard, like thinking that we
666
00:30:57.799 --> 00:31:00.960
were like teenage mutant ninja turtles and like ridiculous, which
667
00:31:01.000 --> 00:31:04.440
as adults we've now been taught to be like, that's silly.
668
00:31:04.599 --> 00:31:06.799
Don't do that, like people are gonna think you're crazy.
669
00:31:07.119 --> 00:31:08.759
But back in the day, you didn't worry about that,
670
00:31:08.839 --> 00:31:12.079
And so it's almost like weirdly bringing your your mind
671
00:31:12.119 --> 00:31:15.799
back to like a childlike type of play and like fun.
672
00:31:16.480 --> 00:31:19.319
But obviously you do it in the appropriate times. You
673
00:31:19.319 --> 00:31:21.799
don't do it in the busy subway in New York
674
00:31:21.880 --> 00:31:22.240
or something.
675
00:31:22.559 --> 00:31:25.400
I go play teenage mutant Ninja Turtles. That sounds so fun,
676
00:31:25.799 --> 00:31:26.079
I know.
677
00:31:26.200 --> 00:31:29.079
I briefly watched I think it was the third where
678
00:31:29.079 --> 00:31:31.359
they like travel through time like came on TV the
679
00:31:31.359 --> 00:31:32.920
other day and I watched it for a minute, and
680
00:31:32.960 --> 00:31:36.839
I also thought, like these whatever because I think it's
681
00:31:36.880 --> 00:31:39.720
like an animatronic head with a guy inside, but somebody
682
00:31:39.720 --> 00:31:42.319
else controls the head and possibly I think the voice.
683
00:31:42.319 --> 00:31:44.839
And I was like, this was so far beyond its
684
00:31:44.880 --> 00:31:46.880
time and so much better than most of the CGI.
685
00:31:47.079 --> 00:31:50.000
I wish we could go back to, like the practical effects.
686
00:31:50.319 --> 00:31:52.000
There's so much I wish we could go back to,
687
00:31:52.240 --> 00:31:55.200
but we can't. But one thing we can go back
688
00:31:55.200 --> 00:31:58.759
to because I took you off course, was your unreal moment.
689
00:31:59.079 --> 00:32:01.839
You know, I was we feared off talking about how
690
00:32:01.839 --> 00:32:04.319
to get through the shyness and the awkwardness and that stuff,
691
00:32:04.359 --> 00:32:07.119
which is important for people to know. But also I
692
00:32:07.200 --> 00:32:09.480
cut you off, and I made a promise to myself.
693
00:32:09.480 --> 00:32:11.160
I wasn't going to do that, but here we are,
694
00:32:11.319 --> 00:32:14.240
so tell me go back to your unreal moment.
695
00:32:14.880 --> 00:32:16.000
I think, But I think that was.
696
00:32:16.039 --> 00:32:17.640
I think we were still in the same world, because
697
00:32:17.680 --> 00:32:19.400
I think my unreal moment is the.
698
00:32:19.400 --> 00:32:21.240
Day I walked out of.
699
00:32:21.160 --> 00:32:24.880
My job that I was very comfortable in and decided
700
00:32:24.920 --> 00:32:27.119
to move to Los Angeles to sleep on my buddy's couch.
701
00:32:27.759 --> 00:32:32.160
And like what that did for my life, I don't
702
00:32:32.200 --> 00:32:34.839
even know today, because even when I go back and
703
00:32:34.839 --> 00:32:37.519
think about that, I'm like, wow, that was a bold move.
704
00:32:38.640 --> 00:32:41.119
Like I owned a house in Arizona, I had I
705
00:32:41.160 --> 00:32:43.599
had just gotten a new job, like two months prior
706
00:32:43.640 --> 00:32:46.359
that I had fought so hard to get. I just
707
00:32:46.400 --> 00:32:49.480
finished grad school and I was like, what, like, what
708
00:32:49.599 --> 00:32:50.799
a crazy thing to do?
709
00:32:51.000 --> 00:32:53.160
And I think, as much as it's gonna this is
710
00:32:53.160 --> 00:32:53.960
gonna sound bad.
711
00:32:54.000 --> 00:32:55.920
And I guess, weirdly, this is one of those setbacks
712
00:32:55.920 --> 00:32:57.079
you were talking about earlier.
713
00:32:57.519 --> 00:32:59.680
There was a girl that I had been dating.
714
00:32:59.440 --> 00:33:02.839
Off and on all through high school and we were
715
00:33:02.920 --> 00:33:07.400
off and she got pregnant with another guy and that
716
00:33:07.519 --> 00:33:09.079
like destroyed me.
717
00:33:09.359 --> 00:33:12.359
And so I was like, I need to leave the state.
718
00:33:12.960 --> 00:33:15.000
And so because I needed to leave the state, my
719
00:33:15.000 --> 00:33:16.759
buddy was in LA and he was an actor, and
720
00:33:16.799 --> 00:33:18.880
I was like, I've always been curious, but I've never
721
00:33:18.920 --> 00:33:19.759
actually thought I could.
722
00:33:20.279 --> 00:33:22.839
But I think I just wanted to get out of Arizona.
723
00:33:22.599 --> 00:33:26.359
So bad that that because of that, that's why I
724
00:33:26.400 --> 00:33:28.799
ended up going so Weirdly, that was like an awful
725
00:33:28.839 --> 00:33:32.200
moment in my life that pivoted my life into a
726
00:33:32.359 --> 00:33:34.880
place that I'm at now, which is I'm so grateful
727
00:33:34.920 --> 00:33:37.480
for So I guess that's that's probably a better example
728
00:33:37.519 --> 00:33:39.640
of something bad that's happened, that's that's ended up turning
729
00:33:39.640 --> 00:33:40.240
out really good.
730
00:33:40.440 --> 00:33:43.279
Well, you turned pain into purpose and that is a
731
00:33:43.480 --> 00:33:46.559
that is a beautiful thing that you know, you found
732
00:33:46.599 --> 00:33:49.279
you found your way too in a time when you
733
00:33:49.319 --> 00:33:51.079
could have it was like a sink or swim moment
734
00:33:51.279 --> 00:33:55.240
and you you know, you fully removed yourself from the
735
00:33:55.240 --> 00:33:59.759
situation and dumped in another lake. So that's impressive.
736
00:34:00.720 --> 00:34:02.960
Luckily this like wasn't like filled with piranhas and it
737
00:34:03.000 --> 00:34:03.720
turned out fine.
738
00:34:03.799 --> 00:34:05.319
But yeah, it was scary.
739
00:34:05.680 --> 00:34:08.199
You never know, and that's that's a possibility too, right,
740
00:34:09.480 --> 00:34:11.000
And we learned, We learned from all of it. So
741
00:34:11.679 --> 00:34:14.199
I we've talked a lot about mindset and and what
742
00:34:14.199 --> 00:34:16.519
we learned from experience and what we learn from people.
743
00:34:17.000 --> 00:34:19.079
I want to talk a little bit about music because
744
00:34:19.159 --> 00:34:22.159
music is music reaches I think it was in Stranger
745
00:34:22.199 --> 00:34:25.239
Things the last season there was a line about how
746
00:34:25.320 --> 00:34:29.760
music reaches parts of your brain that words can't, and
747
00:34:29.800 --> 00:34:32.800
I just it's so true because there's lyrics and then
748
00:34:32.840 --> 00:34:35.440
there's like just the physicality of the beats and the
749
00:34:35.679 --> 00:34:38.639
rhythm and all of that that is just so restorative
750
00:34:38.679 --> 00:34:41.360
for so many people. So I want to know that
751
00:34:41.920 --> 00:34:44.440
there's there's a couple of different levels of this. There's
752
00:34:44.480 --> 00:34:47.000
this the songs that you that you turn to and
753
00:34:47.199 --> 00:34:49.239
in hard times, and there's the songs that you turn
754
00:34:49.320 --> 00:34:51.400
to to cheer yourself up. And then there's the songs
755
00:34:51.400 --> 00:34:55.159
that you you kind of happy, they're they're they're like
756
00:34:55.159 --> 00:34:58.559
the happy moment times you you take this wherever you
757
00:34:58.559 --> 00:35:00.880
want to go. But I'm I'm I'm I really want
758
00:35:00.920 --> 00:35:04.559
to put together a little you know, what is Brent
759
00:35:04.599 --> 00:35:09.639
Bailey's playlist for the song of survival? What's Brent Bailey's
760
00:35:09.639 --> 00:35:13.280
playlist for a moment when things are rough? You know?
761
00:35:13.440 --> 00:35:15.960
And then what's what's another one where like when things
762
00:35:16.000 --> 00:35:17.280
are good and you're celebrating.
763
00:35:19.159 --> 00:35:20.239
Don't hate me?
764
00:35:20.440 --> 00:35:23.679
But I I am so not picky when it comes
765
00:35:23.719 --> 00:35:24.199
to music.
766
00:35:25.000 --> 00:35:26.960
I don't have like I could not hate you.
767
00:35:27.760 --> 00:35:30.800
Oh that's good news. Yeah, I don't have to go
768
00:35:30.880 --> 00:35:31.440
to songs.
769
00:35:31.559 --> 00:35:35.199
I'm definitely probably a crazy person and the type that
770
00:35:35.320 --> 00:35:37.679
just like when I get in the car, now it's
771
00:35:37.960 --> 00:35:40.280
I've evolved a bit, so my car actually has car plays,
772
00:35:40.280 --> 00:35:42.880
So now I go to Spotify, but I just say,
773
00:35:42.920 --> 00:35:45.400
like play classic rock, and then it just plays. And
774
00:35:45.760 --> 00:35:48.800
since now there's no ads, I don't ever change the channel.
775
00:35:48.800 --> 00:35:49.480
It just goes.
776
00:35:50.079 --> 00:35:51.599
Back in the day, I would turn on the radio
777
00:35:51.760 --> 00:35:55.039
and I would just let it play until an AD
778
00:35:55.079 --> 00:35:56.760
came on, and then I would change the station and
779
00:35:56.760 --> 00:35:59.119
I would just go to another one. I'm so easy
780
00:35:59.119 --> 00:36:01.840
when it comes to music, but I also and this
781
00:36:01.920 --> 00:36:05.760
drives my girlfriend crazy. I don't need anything. I don't
782
00:36:05.800 --> 00:36:08.559
need noises. So sometimes I'm just in utter silence. And
783
00:36:08.559 --> 00:36:11.719
sometimes I'll drive, like a six hour drive in silence,
784
00:36:12.760 --> 00:36:13.960
and I sort of love it.
785
00:36:14.000 --> 00:36:16.199
I love just like the peace and quiet.
786
00:36:16.559 --> 00:36:18.480
Sometimes I'll have the radio just a little bit on,
787
00:36:18.599 --> 00:36:20.480
so it's like very faint, and she's like, if you
788
00:36:20.519 --> 00:36:22.480
can't hear that, I either need you to turn it
789
00:36:22.559 --> 00:36:26.239
up or turn it off. But yeah, I don't know
790
00:36:26.280 --> 00:36:28.639
what my answer would be to those I love music.
791
00:36:29.840 --> 00:36:33.400
I have a really weird skill where I won't even
792
00:36:33.400 --> 00:36:35.320
know the artist or the name of the song, but
793
00:36:35.360 --> 00:36:37.440
I can tell you exactly what movie it played in
794
00:36:37.519 --> 00:36:39.960
at what point in the movie, And I don't.
795
00:36:39.760 --> 00:36:40.880
Know why that is.
796
00:36:41.000 --> 00:36:44.000
I can be like, oh, yeah, this was in wedding Crashers,
797
00:36:44.320 --> 00:36:46.679
but I couldn't tell you who sings it, or what
798
00:36:46.719 --> 00:36:49.119
the song is or the words of the song. And
799
00:36:49.320 --> 00:36:53.159
I don't know why my brain can make that association
800
00:36:53.320 --> 00:36:54.199
so quickly.
801
00:36:55.519 --> 00:36:55.760
Past.
802
00:36:57.119 --> 00:37:02.119
Yeah, it's a weird little party trick. I suppose, Yeah,
803
00:37:02.199 --> 00:37:03.599
I could. I have no idea.
804
00:37:03.960 --> 00:37:06.239
I err on the side of your girlfriend. I like
805
00:37:06.760 --> 00:37:09.079
the noise. I like a little bit of I actually
806
00:37:09.119 --> 00:37:13.320
soundtrack my life, so I tend to have different music
807
00:37:14.280 --> 00:37:15.320
literally like a playlist.
808
00:37:15.440 --> 00:37:15.639
Yeah.
809
00:37:15.639 --> 00:37:18.559
I got into writing roller coasters in the last couple
810
00:37:18.559 --> 00:37:21.280
of years and I have done fifty of them in
811
00:37:21.320 --> 00:37:25.239
two years, and every single roller people and I can't.
812
00:37:25.519 --> 00:37:27.920
I can't. I shouldn't probably have my aarpods in because like,
813
00:37:28.000 --> 00:37:30.559
if it were to fly out, it would probably hurt somebody.
814
00:37:30.599 --> 00:37:33.079
But I always have an air pod in and I
815
00:37:33.159 --> 00:37:35.599
usually play a specific song depending on the day and
816
00:37:35.639 --> 00:37:37.519
whatever else. And it said, this is weird thing, but
817
00:37:37.599 --> 00:37:40.400
it helps ground me when I'm doing something scary because
818
00:37:40.400 --> 00:37:43.000
I hated roller coasters. It was twenty twenty three. I
819
00:37:43.000 --> 00:37:45.840
did my very first one at Dollywood and I thought
820
00:37:45.880 --> 00:37:47.679
I was going to die. Like it was called Thunderhead
821
00:37:47.719 --> 00:37:49.280
and you should, oh my gosh, I should show you
822
00:37:49.280 --> 00:37:51.400
the picture. It's I'll put the picture in the show
823
00:37:51.440 --> 00:37:54.480
notes because it's that funny. But I have it's helped
824
00:37:54.519 --> 00:37:58.559
me work through fear, and music has actually, like somehow
825
00:37:58.639 --> 00:38:01.159
soundtracking on the role or coasters has its just been
826
00:38:01.159 --> 00:38:03.480
this very healing and restorative thing for me. But also
827
00:38:03.559 --> 00:38:07.840
live music. I just I feel, you know, when music, movement,
828
00:38:07.920 --> 00:38:11.599
and mindset come together, my soul feels at peace, and
829
00:38:11.639 --> 00:38:14.639
my body is not at peace. My body is doing
830
00:38:14.679 --> 00:38:17.280
things that I don't understand how it's possible. Like I
831
00:38:17.400 --> 00:38:20.920
was at a concert in November and the jumping that happens,
832
00:38:20.960 --> 00:38:23.199
I'm like, how I'm not I'm not a suit I
833
00:38:23.440 --> 00:38:25.159
try to be fit, I try to stay healthy, but
834
00:38:25.199 --> 00:38:27.920
I'm not like a super active human. So the amount
835
00:38:27.920 --> 00:38:33.320
of the jumping something to see. But your answer is fine,
836
00:38:33.320 --> 00:38:36.840
and it's interesting to me that there are that you
837
00:38:36.920 --> 00:38:38.880
are the second human I've talked to today and my
838
00:38:38.960 --> 00:38:41.760
husband falls into this category two where you just you
839
00:38:41.840 --> 00:38:44.719
do just like the peace and there's nothing, there's nothing
840
00:38:44.719 --> 00:38:47.400
wrong with that. You just like the stillness and and
841
00:38:47.480 --> 00:38:50.639
being honestly being present in the moment. And we could
842
00:38:50.679 --> 00:38:53.039
we could, truly like we could use more of that.
843
00:38:53.159 --> 00:38:55.239
So you don't have to apologize, and I wouldn't hate
844
00:38:55.280 --> 00:38:57.039
you for that answer. That's a very good answer. So
845
00:38:57.800 --> 00:39:02.159
and more of us need to find comfort in inside,
846
00:39:02.480 --> 00:39:04.719
you know, we don't need to always have that noise.
847
00:39:05.320 --> 00:39:06.599
I love my favorite noises.
848
00:39:06.639 --> 00:39:09.320
Are this gonna sound so dumb, but like I love
849
00:39:09.360 --> 00:39:13.440
the sound of like car tires on gravel. And I
850
00:39:13.480 --> 00:39:15.159
love the sound of like if we go camping, like
851
00:39:15.199 --> 00:39:17.840
the sound of the fire, like those sounds that I
852
00:39:17.960 --> 00:39:18.719
really really like.
853
00:39:19.000 --> 00:39:21.400
That does not sound what what word did you use?
854
00:39:21.440 --> 00:39:22.880
That that sounds amazing?
855
00:39:23.360 --> 00:39:24.000
Okay, good?
856
00:39:24.599 --> 00:39:25.920
Yeah, I don't know if those are called like just
857
00:39:25.960 --> 00:39:29.559
ambient sounds, I guess. But the waves, like if we
858
00:39:29.639 --> 00:39:31.800
ever get a place, like we go to Cabo a
859
00:39:31.840 --> 00:39:33.719
lot and we'll get a place on the beach, like
860
00:39:33.800 --> 00:39:35.599
I love sleeping with the door open so you can
861
00:39:35.639 --> 00:39:36.280
hear the waves.
862
00:39:36.360 --> 00:39:37.719
Like I like those types of sounds.
863
00:39:37.800 --> 00:39:40.440
Nature sounds too, like you're you're grounded in nature, and
864
00:39:40.719 --> 00:39:44.920
that's again a healing and restorative sound that you're you know,
865
00:39:45.159 --> 00:39:48.119
feeling peaced by that. That that's good. That's a good thing.
866
00:39:48.400 --> 00:39:53.280
So so to get to we've talked a little past,
867
00:39:53.880 --> 00:39:56.480
talked a little present, Let's talk a little future. This
868
00:39:56.559 --> 00:39:59.559
is hard, this is a harder one. But my thought is,
869
00:39:59.760 --> 00:40:02.519
you know, I have so much respect for a man
870
00:40:02.559 --> 00:40:05.599
who's passed away. His name was Dave Hollis, and he
871
00:40:06.119 --> 00:40:10.079
had in his book he wrote about his eightieth birthday
872
00:40:10.599 --> 00:40:12.599
and what he wanted that to look like and how
873
00:40:12.639 --> 00:40:15.320
he wanted the people he wanted there and the legacy
874
00:40:15.360 --> 00:40:18.880
that he wanted to leave, and this sad thing happened
875
00:40:18.920 --> 00:40:23.199
where he passed away and then suddenly abruptly, and it
876
00:40:23.239 --> 00:40:27.559
happened maybe two years ago, but he passed away, and
877
00:40:27.559 --> 00:40:29.239
then a bunch of us got on a zoom call.
878
00:40:29.280 --> 00:40:31.719
It was about two hundred people from all kinds of
879
00:40:31.760 --> 00:40:34.400
walks of life, and we had this like kind of
880
00:40:34.400 --> 00:40:38.400
like memorial service tribute to him, and everybody said the
881
00:40:38.519 --> 00:40:42.199
kindest things, and I just wished, I just wish that
882
00:40:42.239 --> 00:40:44.079
he could have heard, like I wished he could have
883
00:40:44.119 --> 00:40:47.119
been there. And of course, you know, I have faith
884
00:40:47.119 --> 00:40:49.079
and I believe that he was there in his way,
885
00:40:49.360 --> 00:40:51.840
but we need to say more of it out loud
886
00:40:51.920 --> 00:40:54.440
before it's too late. And I feel this way about
887
00:40:54.480 --> 00:40:56.199
the people we care about, but I also feel it
888
00:40:56.199 --> 00:40:58.760
about ourselves because I'm a huge believer and advocate for
889
00:40:58.800 --> 00:41:03.199
self love and the importance of really just it's not
890
00:41:03.280 --> 00:41:05.960
self serving to love on yourself like you need you
891
00:41:06.079 --> 00:41:08.440
need that because then the more you love on yourself,
892
00:41:08.480 --> 00:41:11.320
it just overflows into the world around you. So my
893
00:41:11.760 --> 00:41:16.519
eighty year old birthday situation for you, if you're sitting
894
00:41:16.559 --> 00:41:18.880
there with you know, your friends and family on your
895
00:41:18.920 --> 00:41:21.840
eightieth birthday? What do you want them to be saying
896
00:41:23.960 --> 00:41:26.440
about me or about you or in the room or
897
00:41:26.480 --> 00:41:28.400
how the everything about it? What do you want to
898
00:41:28.400 --> 00:41:30.239
look like? What do you want to sound like? And
899
00:41:30.280 --> 00:41:31.679
what do you want what do you want them to
900
00:41:31.679 --> 00:41:32.519
say about you?
901
00:41:36.400 --> 00:41:39.400
When I'm eighty, so we're talking thirty eight years from now.
902
00:41:39.440 --> 00:41:43.159
Don't do the math all reasons like you're sending a
903
00:41:43.199 --> 00:41:44.840
time clock on yourself. Don't do that.
904
00:41:45.320 --> 00:41:47.159
Well, I was just thinking like if I'm eighty, like
905
00:41:47.320 --> 00:41:48.719
if I do have a kid in the next couple years,
906
00:41:48.719 --> 00:41:51.639
and I'm probably sitting in front of like a thirty
907
00:41:51.679 --> 00:41:54.960
six year old small version of me, So I weirdly
908
00:41:54.960 --> 00:41:56.800
would want more of the attention to be on him
909
00:41:56.840 --> 00:41:59.480
and what or her and what they want to accomplish
910
00:41:59.480 --> 00:42:04.320
in their life. I think I would want It's interesting
911
00:42:04.320 --> 00:42:06.320
because I'm thinking, like, well, who's gonna be there that's
912
00:42:06.360 --> 00:42:08.280
talking about me, that doesn't already know me, that we
913
00:42:08.320 --> 00:42:12.760
haven't like you know, my hopefully wife at the time. Unfortunately,
914
00:42:12.800 --> 00:42:14.719
like my parents would be passed away, so it'd be
915
00:42:14.800 --> 00:42:16.679
like friends that would have been on this journey with me.
916
00:42:16.760 --> 00:42:18.280
I think they wanted to be like, man, you had
917
00:42:18.320 --> 00:42:20.199
a really cool career. You got to do a lot
918
00:42:20.239 --> 00:42:21.320
of cool things in life.
919
00:42:21.679 --> 00:42:24.559
And I would hope that whoever my child is would
920
00:42:24.599 --> 00:42:27.719
be like, there's this really cool video. I don't know
921
00:42:27.719 --> 00:42:31.840
if you've seen it, Jackie Chan watching clips of all
922
00:42:31.880 --> 00:42:33.519
of his work with his daughter.
923
00:42:34.519 --> 00:42:36.519
And then I'm writing it down. We're gonna we're gonna link.
924
00:42:36.559 --> 00:42:38.480
Then the show notes to Jackie.
925
00:42:38.920 --> 00:42:41.800
Who can watch it without crying, you're a superhero, because.
926
00:42:42.199 --> 00:42:44.440
She's all like not only like in awe, and like
927
00:42:44.800 --> 00:42:47.400
thinks he's so cool. But then she says like, didn't
928
00:42:47.400 --> 00:42:49.480
it hurt? And then he says, like so much, and
929
00:42:49.480 --> 00:42:50.760
then they both start crying.
930
00:42:51.519 --> 00:42:51.639
Uh.
931
00:42:52.199 --> 00:42:53.760
I don't know. It's such a way I could cry
932
00:42:53.840 --> 00:42:55.199
right now. It's such like a.
933
00:42:55.159 --> 00:42:58.559
Weird emotional video that it like that. I think is
934
00:42:58.639 --> 00:43:01.199
so cool to have somebody that looks up to you
935
00:43:01.239 --> 00:43:03.760
and respects you so much. That is, you know, your
936
00:43:03.880 --> 00:43:06.480
child thinking that what you did in your life not
937
00:43:06.559 --> 00:43:08.840
only was like cool, but it meant something, it mattered,
938
00:43:09.039 --> 00:43:14.480
Like that's I think the ultimate goal. But I think
939
00:43:14.519 --> 00:43:16.800
as long as I'm happy with how my life went
940
00:43:16.840 --> 00:43:18.800
too when I turn eighty, that that'll be enough. I
941
00:43:18.800 --> 00:43:22.360
don't need somebody else to tell me that it was
942
00:43:22.559 --> 00:43:25.159
it was all worthwhile, but I think that would be fun.
943
00:43:27.199 --> 00:43:31.639
Love it, so tell me. The whole purpose of having
944
00:43:31.719 --> 00:43:35.480
guests on here, Brent is particularly the first few. So
945
00:43:35.880 --> 00:43:37.559
you are one of the very first few people that
946
00:43:37.599 --> 00:43:41.280
I've so honored and so grateful to join me today.
947
00:43:41.280 --> 00:43:43.519
You said it was unreal coming on and talking to me.
948
00:43:43.639 --> 00:43:46.400
It is unreal having you here. So I am so
949
00:43:46.440 --> 00:43:49.760
grateful for you and for your belief and your investment
950
00:43:49.800 --> 00:43:53.519
of your time and energy and thoughts into this whole
951
00:43:53.519 --> 00:43:56.719
thing today. So as as this is my thank you, honestly,
952
00:43:56.719 --> 00:43:59.199
this whole episode is my thank you to you for
953
00:43:59.679 --> 00:44:02.239
just being honestly more of a transition figure in my
954
00:44:02.280 --> 00:44:04.679
life than you're aware of. So I wanted to give
955
00:44:04.719 --> 00:44:08.239
you as part of that, just a platform and a
956
00:44:08.280 --> 00:44:12.119
moment to say what's going on, like, what's coming? What
957
00:44:12.159 --> 00:44:14.760
should we be aware of? Where can people find you?
958
00:44:14.800 --> 00:44:17.079
Where can people follow you? Where can people cheer you on?
959
00:44:17.719 --> 00:44:20.280
Just walk us through what's next? For Brent.
960
00:44:21.760 --> 00:44:22.760
That's a great question.
961
00:44:22.880 --> 00:44:26.639
I you know, in my career you never really know
962
00:44:26.840 --> 00:44:27.599
what's next.
963
00:44:27.719 --> 00:44:29.599
You know what you've done.
964
00:44:29.719 --> 00:44:31.679
So I shot a couple movies back in twenty twenty
965
00:44:31.679 --> 00:44:34.000
two that are coming out this year. One of them
966
00:44:34.039 --> 00:44:36.960
is called The Huntsman. It comes out on February tenth
967
00:44:37.079 --> 00:44:39.320
on demand and digital. And then I have another movie
968
00:44:39.320 --> 00:44:41.119
called Dead of Night, which I honestly have no idea
969
00:44:41.320 --> 00:44:43.199
where it's going to be, but it's coming out sometime
970
00:44:43.239 --> 00:44:46.760
this year. And then I have a really good feeling
971
00:44:46.840 --> 00:44:49.840
about this year. I think not only just for me,
972
00:44:49.920 --> 00:44:52.599
but I think for my friends and the people that
973
00:44:52.599 --> 00:44:54.519
I'm close with, and I think the business in general
974
00:44:54.559 --> 00:44:56.400
and hopefully for all of humanity.
975
00:44:56.800 --> 00:44:58.119
But I think it's going to.
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Be a great year. I've been meeting tomorrow which could
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lead to some new movies. I have a couple different
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things lined up that maybe would get me involved in
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the business in a little bit of a different way
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as more of like an investor too.
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So I think there's a lot of doors that are opening, and.
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I do feel like I'm at this really cool point
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in my career where i think there is going to
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be a big shift and so I'm excited for what
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that is.
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But if you do want to follow along and.
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See if it turns out the way I think it is,
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I really am only active on Instagram, and it's just
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my name at Brent m Bailey because my name is
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Brent Michael Bailey. I'm not very active on there, so
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if you're looking for somebody that posts a lot, I
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don't do it very much. But I try to post
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when it matters. I just don't post about like my
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basic life every day because I as much as maybe
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it would be interesting, I feel like I don't think
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it's interesting, and so I don't do it. And I
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also just don't like to have to like have my
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phone out all the time. I like to live in
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the moment, So there won't be a lot, but there
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will be highlights and it'll tell you where you can
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see things that I'm doing. And yeah, I think that's
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it as far as like professional stuff goes. I'm sure
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there'll be more commercials. Fingers crossed. Chris gets to come
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back for year three, but I have no idea if
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it will or won't.
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Yeah, that's it.
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Thank you for that, and thank you for being here. Honestly,
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I think that the the last thing that I want
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to ask is is very open ended. So take it,
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take it for what you want. But what did I
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not ask that you would want? To share.
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Oh gosh, nothing pops like directly into my mind.
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Uh No, I think you did a great job.
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I think I think we talked about this a little
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bit in like the email before, about like planning what
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we're going to talk about versus not planning, and I love.
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The I mean, obviously you have to have some kind
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of plan.
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I have done these before where the person like clearly
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doesn't even know who I am, and you're like, oh, oh,
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this is this is this is going to be that
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kind of interview. So I think like research and preparations
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obviously very important, but I like having like a loose
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guideline or outline of what we're going to do and
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then just seem kind of where it flows because I
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think it makes it more authentic and then you don't
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get like pre prepared answers. So yeah, as far as
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like what else you could have asked, I have no idea.
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Yeah.
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Then I think usually when people go to like what
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can I ask that I haven't asked, it always like
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tends to lean towards like favorites.
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And I'm a terrible person at favorites, Like what's your
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favorite food? And you're like, I don't know, like it
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depends on what I'm in the mood for that night.
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I really do want to know your favorite food, though.
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I'm so bad at favorites.
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Like I think if if you were like, hey, gun
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to your head this you have to choose.
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A meal, We're not doing that. How about it? You
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have to have like a favorite candy or a favorite beverage,
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or a favorite comfort food or.
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Buts that her mom taught to her that we have
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every Thanksgiving and Christmas, and they're so good.
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Apparently back in the day they used to have a
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farm and.
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They would get like fresh eggs, and so the noodles,
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because there's eggs in them, obviously that those would turn
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out like a really beautiful like yellow eat orange color.
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And now, unfortunately, I guess that color doesn't exist anymore
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unless you get a product called like happy eggs, and
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so now she has to add food coloring to make
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it look the same. But it's like that with like
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some mashed potatoes is definitely a comfort food. But if
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I had to go, like I want something that I
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really really really want, I think I would go like
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surf and turf, like a really good steak, and like
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lobster and scallops.
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But I'm so Benny Hannah is one of my favorite restaurants.
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There's something about the whole experience with like the tepping
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table and like the volcano and like the beating heart
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that it gets me every time. If you ever asked
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me to go to Benny Hanna, I would be like,
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where where we go?
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Win?
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Let's I will be there at the Encino one or
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the Santa Monica on which what are we going to?
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We're going to the Milwaukee one when you're in.
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Milwaukee, Milwaukee want a pretty good one?
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I haven't been that. I will go with you when
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you're here. So that's the plan.
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You've never been to any huh ever ever? Oh man, I.
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Mean listen, you're gonna have an upset stomach because it's
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just part of Benny hotapp But it's really good.
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It's so worth it.
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Oh my gosh.
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On that note, Brent Dailey, thank you for being here today.
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If you're seeing this, you're my friend. Thank you for
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being here. I really appreciate that you took time out
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of your day to spend with Lollo me. I would
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love to hear from you. I actually don't. This part
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is uncomfortable for me. Just just talking like this is
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uncomfortable for me somehow more so than this, But that's
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I've practiced that I have the TikTok and I do
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the things, and this is harder. So please talk to me,
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find me on social tell me what you thought, tell
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me what you think, tell me what questions you have
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or what guests you want to see. I want this
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to feel like you're part of this, because you are.
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You mean something to me and I'm so grateful. So
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if you would be so kind as to go and
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give me a review and some stars and just let
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me know what you're thinking, I would really appreciate it.
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And I'd love to see you back here any time.
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To help you remember who you are while you build
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who you're meant to be. Quick before you forget
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Well, on, I need to interrupt you. You were shy.
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Oh my gosh.
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Becoming an actor actually changes like who I am at
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as an individual. My first few audition experiences would I
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would like go to the audition. There were multiple where
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I went to the audition and you can back in
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the day, we did it in real life. Sometimes now
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it's just through tape, but you can hear the other
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people doing things like acting. And there was like a
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horror movie I was auditioning for, and you had to
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like peek through a hole and then the monster grabs
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your eye and rip your eyeball out, so then you
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have to like scream on the floor and roll around
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in agony.
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And I was like, oh, I can't do that.
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I will feel so like self conscious and I'll just
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feel dumb, and so I left.
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Welcome friends, I am so grateful that you're here today
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with me on Quick Before You Forget, which is a
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personal development podcast about building your unreal life from the
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ground up using music, mindset, and movement to remember who
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you are while becoming who you want to be today.
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I am here, I am honored. I am hyped to
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welcome Brent Bailey, who you may recognize and Know and
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love as Chris k from Target. But there's a lot
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more to the story. Born in Tucson and raised between
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Texas and Arizona, Brent Bailey came to Hollywood with intention,
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armed with a master's in business and a long game
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mindset to go along with it. You've seen him more
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time than you realize, from nearly one hundred and fifty
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commercials for brands like Herts, Clorox, and Shell, to stand
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out roles in film and television, including LBJ, The Idea
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of You, and The Lincoln Lawyer. Brent's here today because
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his career sits at the intersection of creativity, reinvention, and
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staying power, and we're talking about what it really takes
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to evolve, stay grounded, and keep building when the path
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is not linear. Brent, welcome to Quick before you forget,
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Thank you.
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Wow, that was an amazing intro.
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Thank you so thank you. I appreciate it. So today
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we're here to talk through your story, past, present and future.
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So first let's go back. What is a childhood memory
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that you have that shaped who you are today?
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Oh my gosh, we're starting just with the heavy question
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that's tough to.
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Like narrow it down to one.
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I mean, obviously I think not to be like cheesy,
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but my watching my parents and like their relationship and
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how they treated other people, I think shaped me as
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an individual for life. They were just always such good
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people that treated everybody kindly. My dad was an incredibly
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hard worker that started as like a tire tech at
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Discount Tire and then worked.
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His way up to senior vice president.
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So I was just kind of taught from a young
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age that work ethic and.
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Being nice to people is just kind of common sense.
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And so thankfully that carried on.
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What is something you said your parents? Your dad worked
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hard and he had you know, what lessons did you
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learn from that effort that he put in when you
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were watching him as a say, you were a twelve
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year old boy watching your dad do the hard work.
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What what's your takeaway from that?
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I think it was a couple of things.
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I Mean, one of the things that I think I
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learned quickly was that nothing comes easy. If you want something,
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you have to, you know, really go for it.
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If you if you go.
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Half asked on it, then the chances are you're Brian
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not going to succeed. And I think that's something a
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lot of us do is we don't ever fully commit
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to something, so that way, if you do somehow fail,
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you have an excuse because you can be like, well,
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I didn't I didn't fully try. So I almost think
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we do that as like a built in insurance. But
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then I think the other side of it is just
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seeing what you want. I saw what he wanted. I
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knew he wanted more success. I knew he wanted a
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better life for us, and so I think, you know,
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kind of like the law of attraction, where he like
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visualized where he wanted to be.
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In ten years and set goals.
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And that taught me very much at an early age,
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especially when I started acting like I made goals every
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year of like all right, this year, I want to
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try to get a co star and a national commercial,
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and like next year I want to get this, and
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then to go with those goals, then you set up
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your plan. I was like, so I need to take
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acting classes, I need some great hedge scots, I need
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to network and get a great manager an agent. And
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so I think just watching him build his career and
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also watching my mom gave me all the tools that
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I needed to try to, you know, make my own success.
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So I heard you set some goals and that there's
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this thing about goals. We have this this idea and
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that we're working towards something and that's really special. And
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life happens like stuff happens, and their setbacks and their
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struggle on your way to those goals. So, as you've
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been working through what it looks like to do the
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hard work and to set the goals and work toward them,
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what is a setback that you saw as something that
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happened for you rather than to you.
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I mean, I think you.
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Know, obviously in this business, and I think in life
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in general for everybody, if there's always going to be setbacks.
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If you somehow have the absolute gift that you try
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something and it just happens easy and nothing goes wrong,
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then congratulations, that's incredible. I almost think that's a bad
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thing because with all the setbacks and with all the failures,
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you learn so much and you grow and evolve, and
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then when you actually get to where you wanted to be,
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or at least in a place where you're getting closer
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to where you want to be, because I feel like
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that goalpost is always moving, I don't I think Matthew
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McConaughey says it in a speech like you never actually
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arrive at your goal and you're done. The goalpost keeps moving.
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So I think if you get there too easily, it
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starts to become very easy to take it for granted
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and to not really appreciate it as much rather than
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if you have to work hard than when you do
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get there, you're so much more excited. And I think
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work very often, but for every job that people see
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a tough town, it's a tough business. It has an
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immense amount of hurdles, and it's basically I've signed up
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like you don't have enough, and you're like, all right, see,
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you just keep pushing forward.
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is how to work with your mindset and how to
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rejection is real, and it happens, and it's just part
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act and aren't necessarily facing that kind of reject on
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a daily basis, we could learn from how resilient somebody
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that does acting and has to work through all that rejection,
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how that resilience comes to life in what you do
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and how you practice that every day. So if you
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had to back up and kind of, you know, thirty
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thousand foot level, tell a friend who you know just
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got rejected and isn't as used to it as you
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it's a whole other obstacle.
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have to be happy with who you are as a person.
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you have to be smart with your finances. When you
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buy like a fancy car or something that like Listen,
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spending so quickly and you don't sustain that working, now
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you're in this crisis mode of oh my gosh, every
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no seems so much worse because I don't know if
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I'm going to be able to pay my rent this month.
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just so grateful that I'm happy in life and I'm
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so happy with my girlfriend.
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the career not as terrible because they don't. My career
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doesn't define me. It's just something I really enjoyed doing.
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ego ahead and I think there's enough work to go around,
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somebody else is so excited because they just got that job,
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and then on the next one it'll be my turn.
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that it's good for somebody else and they're really happy.
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Which makes me happy.
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when you get that one, yes, it's still going to
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That is so true and that is such an abundant
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way to think about it, just thinking as it benefits
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other folks and not you know, there's somebody out there
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that's having the best day of their life every single
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day you're having a bad one, and isn't that something
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to be grateful for? Actually? And all through all happens
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through a village too. You said, you know you're you're
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the people that you surround yourself with matter and they
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all play into your story. So thank you for sharing that.
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wonder and I kind of almost want to double click
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there on what is a set Can you walk us
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through a setback that you've had, specifically that you learned
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like a replicable lesson from for people.
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there's so many different avenues you can go. So there
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is like the commercial world, there's you know, TV and film,
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there's theater, there's like.
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career in a different way. And I have been so
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lucky to do both, but I have done so many
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commercials that sometimes people do go, oh, you're You're just
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the commercial guy. And I did have an agent way
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back in the day where I was testing for a
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soap opera, but the money was, unfortunately, and it'd be
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so much less than I was making with doing both
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TV and film and commercial, and so I passed on it.
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see it coming. But that that did kind of just
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teach me that I have to make sure that I
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communicate that like my overall goals, how this is going
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to benefit both parties and all.
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what do I want, Like, do I just want to
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do commercials forever? Do I want to go do more film?
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kind of just gives you a moment to check in
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kind of go from there. And I think you almost
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need those little setbacks to remind you, like, hey, I
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need to check in with myself and just make sure
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I'm okay with this path I'm on, so that you
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don't end up, you know, fifty years down the road
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for me, is just to put myself in check and
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make sure I'm still doing what I want to do.
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we've talked about like the not so fun parts. What's
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been a really fun, exciting moment that you celebrated a
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win I've had?
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want to sound cheesy, but I've had so many wins.
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I playing Santa, even like some people hate some people
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love it. It was like one of the most fun
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jobs I've ever had because I don't I'm typically more
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of like a straight actor. I just kind of play
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myself and with with Chris, I got to be this
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character and I got to have so much fun, and
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I got to play with so many of the people
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on set with improv like it was just an absolute blast,
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more than I think I even realized it would be.
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in and like meeting you, it's all such a wonderful experience.
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who doesn't want to meet Tom Brady.
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like it's weird to be sharing a room with you,
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like people motivated, Like I loved working with Anne Hathaway.
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who unfortunately has passed away, and that is like a
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moment that I extremely cherish because I'm so lucky to
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keep working so much, but I'm very excited about it.
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to keep going? Goodness, gracious, you said something that is
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my love language, which is people. You said, you know,
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the thing that makes you enjoy celebrating the wins is
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the people. And that brings me back to a more
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of a reflective place where I want to know who
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is a person, a transition figure in your life for good,
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somebody that you learned a lesson from, or somebody that
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believed in you or saw you or made you feel
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seen when you needed it. Who really changed your life
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in the trajectory of your life.
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my parents being the biggest ones. And then if you're
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just going into actually like the career, it's usually just
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my friends that I'm so rounded by, or people that
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I look up to, maybe I don't even know them
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like I see Glenn Powell lately, and I have so
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much respect for him and I am like such a
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big fan rooting for his career even though he doesn't
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know who I am. But there's like so many people
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where I'm like, oh, or like Ashton Kutcher, like he's
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got a new show coming out, and I saw the
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billboard and I was like, yes, this guy's making a
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multi billionaire from being a genius entrepreneur, But it's those
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kind of things where I think I have like my
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role models, I guess is a better way to say that.
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John Rosenfeld who is like such a big supporter who
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makes me want to try harder, like always keeps pushing me,
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it makes me want.
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which makes me excited and then is also trying hard
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to keep up with all of that.
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in my head where I tend to fan girl over
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things that I care about, over things that I love,
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over music and songs and different books that I love.
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to create something, and it takes a lot of emotional energy,
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and I want to share something that brings me that
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kind of peace and happiness and joy with whoever will
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have it. Right. So what you said about fanning over,
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I think you said Ashton Kutcher was one of them,
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and it just I feel seen in that, and I
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wanted to say thank you because it's we think we
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think about transition figures as people, you know, like your parents,
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a teacher or something. But you don't always get to
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meet the people that inspire you. And it's it's cool
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when you get to call them out and something like
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this and say, yes, this, this person's doing something really cool.
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superpower because I think that the people that find way
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is to elevate and spotlight the hard work and energy
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and effort that's going on behind the scenes with because yes,
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like you said, Ashton's done a lot of amazing things
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and he's made some good impact in the world, and
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he's a genius, you know, creative person, and you know,
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he's a human being and it's in a lot of
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effort and a lot of energy and a lot of
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soul goes into that stuff. So whether or not they
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ever know that the that they have impacted us, it's
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cool to have just to think about. You know, a star,
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a Chris k a Target Santa is just like Tai Schmidt,
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who looks up to people and is inspired by people
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that you know, we don't always get to meet. It's
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just it's cool and I look up to you and
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I'm inspired by you, and I'm grateful for the chance
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to even talk with you today, which honestly feels unreal
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to me, and yet here we are and I'm just
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so grateful. So let's go back. It's just I'm just
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having so much fun, So thank you. I I want
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to go back to the the question I had about
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the version of you in the past. You know, we
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talked about the childhood memory, and I want to know, like,
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because you've lived this life that's very exciting, and you know,
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there's been there's been good, there's been bad, But what
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would you if you could, if you had the chance
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to go back and talk to your twenty two year
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old self, what would you say.
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when I became an actor, was at twenty two. So
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of me wants to go back and be like, hey,
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don't worry, it's all going to work out. But I
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almost wonder if that would be detrimental, because I think
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part of the not knowing makes me try so much harder.
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I almost feel like if you the tough part about
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like knowing the future is you can almost become complacent
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or you can do things now because you have that
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information that actually alters your path. So I don't know
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that I would say anything. I think I would just
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want to go back and observe and be like, man,
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who was I back then because it was so long ago,
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and be more of a fly on the wall. I
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mean obviously i'd be like, hey, buy some bitcoin, but.
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Make different investments.
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Right. Well, then again, even if I did that, like that,
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that changes everything. I mean, that's the whole like butterfly effect,
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So that'd be tough. I think I would if I
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could go back and like see my prior self. I
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know this isn't even the question, but I've altered it.
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But I think I would just go back and observe
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and just like really appreciate where I was then, because
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then it would make me appreciate where I am now
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even more.
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That is not an answer I expected at all, and
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I'm so grateful for it, Like honestly, like you just
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want to see it, you just want to live it again, honestly,
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And that's that's amazing to me from a.
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Place I've always listen, everybody's different. Anytime anybody's ever got
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been like, hey, what.
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Would you go back and change?
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I always go nothing, because if I go back and
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change something, what's the goal. I'm so happy right now.
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What if what I change now makes it where I'm
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not happy? And like, I don't think I'm going to
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be happier because of something I've changed in the past,
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because it's shaped to a m.
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As an individual, and it's brought me to the exact point.
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So for me, I'm like, no, I've learned from everything,
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whether good or bad, and some of it's been hard,
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but like that's what life is.
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If you skip all the hard stuff.
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I don't even feel like you get to become like
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a full individual, right, So I always just say nothing.
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I take all of it for what it was, and
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this whole life is an experience. And if I'm happy now,
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then great. If I did start changing the answer and
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saying there's something I would want to change, then I
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think it would make me check in more with my
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current self and say, what's wrong, what's wrong? Why aren't
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you happy? Why do you need to change something from
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the past. And at that point then it's like, well,
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then why worry about the past. Change something now so
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that in ten years you can be like, man, I'm
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glad I made that change because now I'm so much happier.
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Speaking of your present self, I wanted to talk with
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you about the opportunity that we're going to make up.
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It's like we're playing pretend here. So think about in
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this present moment, because we are grateful for what we
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have present moment, what one message would you communicate to
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the world if you had a megaphone and you knew
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that everybody was listening.
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Oh gosh, so many things.
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I feel like we overcomplicate this, which is causing like
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the divide that we have, and I feel like if
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we could just take it back to the basic principles
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of like be nice, Like I wish we could go
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back to like if you don't have anything nice to say,
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say nothing at all.
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Amen were just the people.
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Didn't feel like I feel like there's there's there's three sides,
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even though that makes no sense. There's like one extreme,
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the other extreme, and then there's this huge population that
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I think is actually living in the middle, and everybody's
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just so scared to say anything because they don't want
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to get in trouble, they don't want to get canceled, they.
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Don't want to get judged by both of the extremes.
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And but I do think the majority of the people
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really do live in the middle, where we are just
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human beings that want the best for everybody.
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And I think that's.
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Getting a little bit overshadowed, unfortunately by terrible things that
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are happening in the world, but also just by people
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that are enjoying making things into massive fights. And so
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I wish we could all just drop our guards a bit,
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like our defenses, and be like, hey, we all agree
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we want this place to be better. Let's figure out
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how to do it instead of fighting, because when has
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it ever resulted in like.
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A positive outcome with fighting?
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It just I mean, I get that sometimes you have
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to yell at people, but at the same time, we've
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just stopped listening.
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Everybody just yells at everybody else.
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Nobody listens anymore, and I think more people agree than
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we realize on being good humans. So I hope we
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can find our way back to that. And unfortunately, as
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much as social media and the internet has brought so
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many wonderful opportunities, it's also created this this like echo
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chamber and also the ability for so many fake things
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to be put out that just reinforce whatever stance you've
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taken in Like it's almost designed to make you angrier
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and to make you more upset with the world.
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And it's tough. We're in a weird spot. I fear
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for the future.
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My girlfriend I even talk about this with like having
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a kid, Like I would love to have a kid.
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I think we will, but I'm terrified of like what
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that future world looks like.
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I'm hoping that's just something.
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Every generation goes through, Like my parents hopefully felt that
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way too.
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It is you should ask your parents, Yeah, I'll ask
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them might be surprised by the answer, honestly, So you
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said something about listening, and you know that that makes
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me want to double down on that because I think
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a lot of us have a lot to say, and
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I really want this, this podcast even to be a
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platform for people to share their stories. But how do
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you become a better listener? Like, how do we collectively
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be better listeners for for people?
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I mean, I think first of all, and I'm a
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relatively stubborn person, but part of it is like dropping
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our egos and like just hearing the people like we
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don't I don't know.
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Why anybody thinks that.
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I think there's like nine billion people on the planet
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or something. I don't know why anybody thinks we're all
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going to agree on everything or anything for that matter.
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But I do think that we all are built with
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like basic fundamental principles on like how to live and
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what is right and what is wrong. So if we
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can just get past you totally agreeing with everything I'm
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saying and just get on that baseline of like let's
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all be kind, then I think that's a good start.
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But there's this thing called.
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A confirmation bias, and so like you decide on what
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you've decided, and then you just go search the internet
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to find something that backs up your view and you're like, yeah,
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that's so easy to do, but maybe just think of
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things from another person's perspective, like step outside of your
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shoes for a second. Yeah, I don't know, I don't
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know what the solution is. I think a lot of
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people are trying to find the solution to this and
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it's tough, but yeah, I think, you know, asking questions,
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doing things like this, watching interviews, reading books, learning different perspectives,
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studying different religions, like opening your mind to a world
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outside of your own just so you can better understand
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somebody else.
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Seems to be like the good start.
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But I understand we're all busy and everybody's got things
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to do, and it's tough.
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It is, but it doesn't have to be because every
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one of us gets to choose every day, right, we
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get we get to choose, We get to honestly, sometimes
519
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just close your mouth, count to ten, let the other
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person finish what they're saying. You know, it's it's not
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rocket science. That feels it feels so ethereal sometimes, but really, honestly.
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It's not and I get in trouble over this a
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lot because I was obviously gone to therapy. I think
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therapy should That's probably a dangerous thing to say, but
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I think therapy should basically be required at some point
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in your life because it's it's just a good idea.
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To have like a sounding board, have a professional to
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talk to.
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We all have moments of crisis and like chaos, so
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it's never a bad idea and.
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I hate that it's like this. Luckily it's gotten better.
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I think I was a kid.
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I was even afraid to tell my parents that I
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went to therapy because I thought that meant that I
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was there's something was wrong with.
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Me, And I was like, no, I just needed to talk.
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Like I think, first of all, as much as we
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need to listen, I do think we need people to
539
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be able to talk, because I think that's where these
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outbursts and like these rage incidents happen.
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But I, oh, gosh, now where was I going on this?
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Oh?
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So sometimes I have learned because I do this to
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myself even if I'm having a bad day. I call
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it like putting things into perspective, but there's another word
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for it, where it's like invalidating your feelings. But I'm like, listen, yes,
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it like at such a bummer. You got rear ended today.
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Somebody else's parents died today, or somebody else's lost a child,
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or in another country, somebody just got bombed. Like, we
550
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got to put things into perspective, because it's so easy
551
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to go doom and gloom on your own life. But
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if you put things into like a macro, you're like,
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oh my gosh, my problems are so small, and especially
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with me being in Los Angeles and being an actor,
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like you boohoo, you like you lost a job somebody
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else like you can't get down on that stuff.
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And I know that that's sort of dangerous, but.
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That's how I usually get past most things, as I
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just go to like, even is my worst day is
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still better than somebody else's best day.
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And I think that has helped me a lot. But yeah,
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I don't know. I think it's tricky.
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We can validate the feeling without diminishing it, right, you can.
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You can feel the feelings and work through that without
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having it be you know, not as you know apples
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and oranges situation, but you know, it reminds me of
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we I broke my phone in August, and it was
568
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I was so sad. I was. I was heart broken
569
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because I dropped my phone in the hot tub and
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you know, first world problems first of all. But then
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also a month later, our house flooded and like we
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had four inches of water in our basement and we
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ended up having about sixty thousand dollars worth of damage
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to our house. And I'll tell you, did that shift
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my perspective about my broken phone?
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Right?
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Yes? Yes, in real time, I thought, gee, I thought
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I had it so hard having that little phone be broken,
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when really, like the you know, might now my house
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is still and you know, we're still in transition, because
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that's what you do. You work through it and you
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find a way. But it's fascinating perspective matters, and that
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that's a that's a very good that's a very good
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piece of advice for people. Just to keep in mind.
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You know your your you said your worst day, you
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know your best day, worst day. That that line you
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said was very good. So I'll have to go back
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and clip that line because that was awesome. So thank you.
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I'm wondering to take it to a little bit of
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a happier place. I'm wondering, what is something unreal that's
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happened to you or for you, or you know in
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your life, Like walk me through an unreal moment and
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what you gained or learned or benefited from it.
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I mean, I think the fact that I'm even here
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to talk to you and that I am an actor
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is an unreal moment for me because I had no
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intentions of being an actor. I was a very, very
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shy computer nerd, and that's what I went to school for.
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I was a computer programmer.
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I was, well, I need to interrupt you. You were shy.
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Oh my gosh.
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Becoming an actor actually changed like who I am as
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an individual. My first few audition experiences would I would
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like go to the audition. There were multiple where I
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went to the audition and you can back in the day,
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we did it in real life.
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Sometimes now it's just through tape, but you can hear
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the other people doing things like acting.
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And there was like a horror movie I was auditioning for,
610
00:28:39.000 --> 00:28:40.920
and you had to like peek through a hole and
611
00:28:40.920 --> 00:28:43.200
then the monster grabs your eye and rip your eyeball out,
612
00:28:43.240 --> 00:28:44.799
so then you have to like scream on the floor
613
00:28:44.799 --> 00:28:47.039
and like roll around in agony, and I was like, oh,
614
00:28:47.079 --> 00:28:50.000
I can't do that. I will feel so like self
615
00:28:50.039 --> 00:28:52.160
conscious and I'll just feel dumb, and so I left.
616
00:28:53.440 --> 00:28:55.880
I would not like if I was out at a
617
00:28:55.880 --> 00:28:58.359
bar or something. I didn't talk to people. I had
618
00:28:58.400 --> 00:29:00.319
like a very very small group of friends.
619
00:29:00.319 --> 00:29:02.599
In high school. I just was very introverted.
620
00:29:02.960 --> 00:29:08.359
I kept myself and I had no real social skills
621
00:29:09.119 --> 00:29:11.240
other than like, you know, if my parents' friends came over.
622
00:29:11.319 --> 00:29:14.960
I was very polite and respectful. But when I switched
623
00:29:14.960 --> 00:29:19.000
into being an actor, it like shifted my entire personality
624
00:29:19.039 --> 00:29:21.519
into a different person, and it gave me so much
625
00:29:21.599 --> 00:29:23.720
freedom to like have so much more fun and be
626
00:29:24.359 --> 00:29:27.519
more myself as opposed to like this little shell of
627
00:29:27.559 --> 00:29:30.880
a person. So I think that is like my biggest
628
00:29:31.079 --> 00:29:33.720
change in my life that I'm so grateful for, because
629
00:29:33.759 --> 00:29:35.839
I think I'm so much happier now as this human
630
00:29:35.839 --> 00:29:37.200
being than I was as the.
631
00:29:37.160 --> 00:29:39.839
Previous How did you break through being shy? Though?
632
00:29:39.920 --> 00:29:40.039
Like?
633
00:29:40.079 --> 00:29:42.200
What how did you make that change?
634
00:29:42.720 --> 00:29:43.119
Doing it?
635
00:29:43.359 --> 00:29:43.440
You?
636
00:29:43.559 --> 00:29:43.680
Just?
637
00:29:43.799 --> 00:29:47.039
I mean it's like like there's even there's like UCB,
638
00:29:47.160 --> 00:29:48.839
which is an improv school here, and.
639
00:29:48.759 --> 00:29:50.599
Then there's like you know, stand up comedians and everything,
640
00:29:50.640 --> 00:29:52.640
so you I think it's called flappers.
641
00:29:52.720 --> 00:29:55.519
So they take business people and regular people that don't
642
00:29:55.519 --> 00:29:57.640
want to be actors and they tell them to take
643
00:29:57.640 --> 00:29:59.960
these classes because it like puts you in a really
644
00:30:00.000 --> 00:30:03.839
the uncomfortable situation and it makes you grow. And either
645
00:30:03.920 --> 00:30:05.960
I guess you quit the class and you decide to
646
00:30:05.960 --> 00:30:07.720
go back to who you were, or you're like, oh,
647
00:30:07.839 --> 00:30:10.119
like it like sort of demystifies, it makes it a
648
00:30:10.200 --> 00:30:13.359
lot less scary, and it also teaches you some tools
649
00:30:13.400 --> 00:30:15.519
on how to talk, how to how to carry on
650
00:30:15.559 --> 00:30:18.759
a conversation, like how to yes and and so it
651
00:30:18.759 --> 00:30:19.759
gives you more skills.
652
00:30:19.759 --> 00:30:21.599
And I think that's like how I.
653
00:30:21.640 --> 00:30:26.279
Became less shy was by continuously going out and talking
654
00:30:26.279 --> 00:30:29.200
to people and doing these auditions and taking classes and
655
00:30:29.240 --> 00:30:31.359
just learning to be more comfortable with myself.
656
00:30:31.839 --> 00:30:34.680
So that's that's powerful, Like that is I just need
657
00:30:34.680 --> 00:30:38.079
to respect, Like hello, that is an incredible thing that
658
00:30:38.119 --> 00:30:40.920
a lot of people can't do. And it's because it's hard.
659
00:30:40.960 --> 00:30:43.640
It's because it's uncomfortable. It's because you're walking through the
660
00:30:43.720 --> 00:30:46.400
mud and you're on the floor screaming about an eyeball
661
00:30:46.440 --> 00:30:50.480
getting ripped out or whatever. That's funny, Like.
662
00:30:50.480 --> 00:30:51.079
Back in the day.
663
00:30:51.119 --> 00:30:52.680
That's like when I mean when I was a kid,
664
00:30:52.720 --> 00:30:55.240
like that's what you didd you may you played pretend
665
00:30:55.400 --> 00:30:57.799
like right run around the backyard, like thinking that we
666
00:30:57.799 --> 00:31:00.960
were like teenage mutant ninja turtles and like ridiculous, which
667
00:31:01.000 --> 00:31:04.440
as adults we've now been taught to be like, that's silly.
668
00:31:04.599 --> 00:31:06.799
Don't do that, like people are gonna think you're crazy.
669
00:31:07.119 --> 00:31:08.759
But back in the day, you didn't worry about that,
670
00:31:08.839 --> 00:31:12.079
And so it's almost like weirdly bringing your your mind
671
00:31:12.119 --> 00:31:15.799
back to like a childlike type of play and like fun.
672
00:31:16.480 --> 00:31:19.319
But obviously you do it in the appropriate times. You
673
00:31:19.319 --> 00:31:21.799
don't do it in the busy subway in New York
674
00:31:21.880 --> 00:31:22.240
or something.
675
00:31:22.559 --> 00:31:25.400
I go play teenage mutant Ninja Turtles. That sounds so fun,
676
00:31:25.799 --> 00:31:26.079
I know.
677
00:31:26.200 --> 00:31:29.079
I briefly watched I think it was the third where
678
00:31:29.079 --> 00:31:31.359
they like travel through time like came on TV the
679
00:31:31.359 --> 00:31:32.920
other day and I watched it for a minute, and
680
00:31:32.960 --> 00:31:36.839
I also thought, like these whatever because I think it's
681
00:31:36.880 --> 00:31:39.720
like an animatronic head with a guy inside, but somebody
682
00:31:39.720 --> 00:31:42.319
else controls the head and possibly I think the voice.
683
00:31:42.319 --> 00:31:44.839
And I was like, this was so far beyond its
684
00:31:44.880 --> 00:31:46.880
time and so much better than most of the CGI.
685
00:31:47.079 --> 00:31:50.000
I wish we could go back to, like the practical effects.
686
00:31:50.319 --> 00:31:52.000
There's so much I wish we could go back to,
687
00:31:52.240 --> 00:31:55.200
but we can't. But one thing we can go back
688
00:31:55.200 --> 00:31:58.759
to because I took you off course, was your unreal moment.
689
00:31:59.079 --> 00:32:01.839
You know, I was we feared off talking about how
690
00:32:01.839 --> 00:32:04.319
to get through the shyness and the awkwardness and that stuff,
691
00:32:04.359 --> 00:32:07.119
which is important for people to know. But also I
692
00:32:07.200 --> 00:32:09.480
cut you off, and I made a promise to myself.
693
00:32:09.480 --> 00:32:11.160
I wasn't going to do that, but here we are,
694
00:32:11.319 --> 00:32:14.240
so tell me go back to your unreal moment.
695
00:32:14.880 --> 00:32:16.000
I think, But I think that was.
696
00:32:16.039 --> 00:32:17.640
I think we were still in the same world, because
697
00:32:17.680 --> 00:32:19.400
I think my unreal moment is the.
698
00:32:19.400 --> 00:32:21.240
Day I walked out of.
699
00:32:21.160 --> 00:32:24.880
My job that I was very comfortable in and decided
700
00:32:24.920 --> 00:32:27.119
to move to Los Angeles to sleep on my buddy's couch.
701
00:32:27.759 --> 00:32:32.160
And like what that did for my life, I don't
702
00:32:32.200 --> 00:32:34.839
even know today, because even when I go back and
703
00:32:34.839 --> 00:32:37.519
think about that, I'm like, wow, that was a bold move.
704
00:32:38.640 --> 00:32:41.119
Like I owned a house in Arizona, I had I
705
00:32:41.160 --> 00:32:43.599
had just gotten a new job, like two months prior
706
00:32:43.640 --> 00:32:46.359
that I had fought so hard to get. I just
707
00:32:46.400 --> 00:32:49.480
finished grad school and I was like, what, like, what
708
00:32:49.599 --> 00:32:50.799
a crazy thing to do?
709
00:32:51.000 --> 00:32:53.160
And I think, as much as it's gonna this is
710
00:32:53.160 --> 00:32:53.960
gonna sound bad.
711
00:32:54.000 --> 00:32:55.920
And I guess, weirdly, this is one of those setbacks
712
00:32:55.920 --> 00:32:57.079
you were talking about earlier.
713
00:32:57.519 --> 00:32:59.680
There was a girl that I had been dating.
714
00:32:59.440 --> 00:33:02.839
Off and on all through high school and we were
715
00:33:02.920 --> 00:33:07.400
off and she got pregnant with another guy and that
716
00:33:07.519 --> 00:33:09.079
like destroyed me.
717
00:33:09.359 --> 00:33:12.359
And so I was like, I need to leave the state.
718
00:33:12.960 --> 00:33:15.000
And so because I needed to leave the state, my
719
00:33:15.000 --> 00:33:16.759
buddy was in LA and he was an actor, and
720
00:33:16.799 --> 00:33:18.880
I was like, I've always been curious, but I've never
721
00:33:18.920 --> 00:33:19.759
actually thought I could.
722
00:33:20.279 --> 00:33:22.839
But I think I just wanted to get out of Arizona.
723
00:33:22.599 --> 00:33:26.359
So bad that that because of that, that's why I
724
00:33:26.400 --> 00:33:28.799
ended up going so Weirdly, that was like an awful
725
00:33:28.839 --> 00:33:32.200
moment in my life that pivoted my life into a
726
00:33:32.359 --> 00:33:34.880
place that I'm at now, which is I'm so grateful
727
00:33:34.920 --> 00:33:37.480
for So I guess that's that's probably a better example
728
00:33:37.519 --> 00:33:39.640
of something bad that's happened, that's that's ended up turning
729
00:33:39.640 --> 00:33:40.240
out really good.
730
00:33:40.440 --> 00:33:43.279
Well, you turned pain into purpose and that is a
731
00:33:43.480 --> 00:33:46.559
that is a beautiful thing that you know, you found
732
00:33:46.599 --> 00:33:49.279
you found your way too in a time when you
733
00:33:49.319 --> 00:33:51.079
could have it was like a sink or swim moment
734
00:33:51.279 --> 00:33:55.240
and you you know, you fully removed yourself from the
735
00:33:55.240 --> 00:33:59.759
situation and dumped in another lake. So that's impressive.
736
00:34:00.720 --> 00:34:02.960
Luckily this like wasn't like filled with piranhas and it
737
00:34:03.000 --> 00:34:03.720
turned out fine.
738
00:34:03.799 --> 00:34:05.319
But yeah, it was scary.
739
00:34:05.680 --> 00:34:08.199
You never know, and that's that's a possibility too, right,
740
00:34:09.480 --> 00:34:11.000
And we learned, We learned from all of it. So
741
00:34:11.679 --> 00:34:14.199
I we've talked a lot about mindset and and what
742
00:34:14.199 --> 00:34:16.519
we learned from experience and what we learn from people.
743
00:34:17.000 --> 00:34:19.079
I want to talk a little bit about music because
744
00:34:19.159 --> 00:34:22.159
music is music reaches I think it was in Stranger
745
00:34:22.199 --> 00:34:25.239
Things the last season there was a line about how
746
00:34:25.320 --> 00:34:29.760
music reaches parts of your brain that words can't, and
747
00:34:29.800 --> 00:34:32.800
I just it's so true because there's lyrics and then
748
00:34:32.840 --> 00:34:35.440
there's like just the physicality of the beats and the
749
00:34:35.679 --> 00:34:38.639
rhythm and all of that that is just so restorative
750
00:34:38.679 --> 00:34:41.360
for so many people. So I want to know that
751
00:34:41.920 --> 00:34:44.440
there's there's a couple of different levels of this. There's
752
00:34:44.480 --> 00:34:47.000
this the songs that you that you turn to and
753
00:34:47.199 --> 00:34:49.239
in hard times, and there's the songs that you turn
754
00:34:49.320 --> 00:34:51.400
to to cheer yourself up. And then there's the songs
755
00:34:51.400 --> 00:34:55.159
that you you kind of happy, they're they're they're like
756
00:34:55.159 --> 00:34:58.559
the happy moment times you you take this wherever you
757
00:34:58.559 --> 00:35:00.880
want to go. But I'm I'm I'm I really want
758
00:35:00.920 --> 00:35:04.559
to put together a little you know, what is Brent
759
00:35:04.599 --> 00:35:09.639
Bailey's playlist for the song of survival? What's Brent Bailey's
760
00:35:09.639 --> 00:35:13.280
playlist for a moment when things are rough? You know?
761
00:35:13.440 --> 00:35:15.960
And then what's what's another one where like when things
762
00:35:16.000 --> 00:35:17.280
are good and you're celebrating.
763
00:35:19.159 --> 00:35:20.239
Don't hate me?
764
00:35:20.440 --> 00:35:23.679
But I I am so not picky when it comes
765
00:35:23.719 --> 00:35:24.199
to music.
766
00:35:25.000 --> 00:35:26.960
I don't have like I could not hate you.
767
00:35:27.760 --> 00:35:30.800
Oh that's good news. Yeah, I don't have to go
768
00:35:30.880 --> 00:35:31.440
to songs.
769
00:35:31.559 --> 00:35:35.199
I'm definitely probably a crazy person and the type that
770
00:35:35.320 --> 00:35:37.679
just like when I get in the car, now it's
771
00:35:37.960 --> 00:35:40.280
I've evolved a bit, so my car actually has car plays,
772
00:35:40.280 --> 00:35:42.880
So now I go to Spotify, but I just say,
773
00:35:42.920 --> 00:35:45.400
like play classic rock, and then it just plays. And
774
00:35:45.760 --> 00:35:48.800
since now there's no ads, I don't ever change the channel.
775
00:35:48.800 --> 00:35:49.480
It just goes.
776
00:35:50.079 --> 00:35:51.599
Back in the day, I would turn on the radio
777
00:35:51.760 --> 00:35:55.039
and I would just let it play until an AD
778
00:35:55.079 --> 00:35:56.760
came on, and then I would change the station and
779
00:35:56.760 --> 00:35:59.119
I would just go to another one. I'm so easy
780
00:35:59.119 --> 00:36:01.840
when it comes to music, but I also and this
781
00:36:01.920 --> 00:36:05.760
drives my girlfriend crazy. I don't need anything. I don't
782
00:36:05.800 --> 00:36:08.559
need noises. So sometimes I'm just in utter silence. And
783
00:36:08.559 --> 00:36:11.719
sometimes I'll drive, like a six hour drive in silence,
784
00:36:12.760 --> 00:36:13.960
and I sort of love it.
785
00:36:14.000 --> 00:36:16.199
I love just like the peace and quiet.
786
00:36:16.559 --> 00:36:18.480
Sometimes I'll have the radio just a little bit on,
787
00:36:18.599 --> 00:36:20.480
so it's like very faint, and she's like, if you
788
00:36:20.519 --> 00:36:22.480
can't hear that, I either need you to turn it
789
00:36:22.559 --> 00:36:26.239
up or turn it off. But yeah, I don't know
790
00:36:26.280 --> 00:36:28.639
what my answer would be to those I love music.
791
00:36:29.840 --> 00:36:33.400
I have a really weird skill where I won't even
792
00:36:33.400 --> 00:36:35.320
know the artist or the name of the song, but
793
00:36:35.360 --> 00:36:37.440
I can tell you exactly what movie it played in
794
00:36:37.519 --> 00:36:39.960
at what point in the movie, And I don't.
795
00:36:39.760 --> 00:36:40.880
Know why that is.
796
00:36:41.000 --> 00:36:44.000
I can be like, oh, yeah, this was in wedding Crashers,
797
00:36:44.320 --> 00:36:46.679
but I couldn't tell you who sings it, or what
798
00:36:46.719 --> 00:36:49.119
the song is or the words of the song. And
799
00:36:49.320 --> 00:36:53.159
I don't know why my brain can make that association
800
00:36:53.320 --> 00:36:54.199
so quickly.
801
00:36:55.519 --> 00:36:55.760
Past.
802
00:36:57.119 --> 00:37:02.119
Yeah, it's a weird little party trick. I suppose, Yeah,
803
00:37:02.199 --> 00:37:03.599
I could. I have no idea.
804
00:37:03.960 --> 00:37:06.239
I err on the side of your girlfriend. I like
805
00:37:06.760 --> 00:37:09.079
the noise. I like a little bit of I actually
806
00:37:09.119 --> 00:37:13.320
soundtrack my life, so I tend to have different music
807
00:37:14.280 --> 00:37:15.320
literally like a playlist.
808
00:37:15.440 --> 00:37:15.639
Yeah.
809
00:37:15.639 --> 00:37:18.559
I got into writing roller coasters in the last couple
810
00:37:18.559 --> 00:37:21.280
of years and I have done fifty of them in
811
00:37:21.320 --> 00:37:25.239
two years, and every single roller people and I can't.
812
00:37:25.519 --> 00:37:27.920
I can't. I shouldn't probably have my aarpods in because like,
813
00:37:28.000 --> 00:37:30.559
if it were to fly out, it would probably hurt somebody.
814
00:37:30.599 --> 00:37:33.079
But I always have an air pod in and I
815
00:37:33.159 --> 00:37:35.599
usually play a specific song depending on the day and
816
00:37:35.639 --> 00:37:37.519
whatever else. And it said, this is weird thing, but
817
00:37:37.599 --> 00:37:40.400
it helps ground me when I'm doing something scary because
818
00:37:40.400 --> 00:37:43.000
I hated roller coasters. It was twenty twenty three. I
819
00:37:43.000 --> 00:37:45.840
did my very first one at Dollywood and I thought
820
00:37:45.880 --> 00:37:47.679
I was going to die. Like it was called Thunderhead
821
00:37:47.719 --> 00:37:49.280
and you should, oh my gosh, I should show you
822
00:37:49.280 --> 00:37:51.400
the picture. It's I'll put the picture in the show
823
00:37:51.440 --> 00:37:54.480
notes because it's that funny. But I have it's helped
824
00:37:54.519 --> 00:37:58.559
me work through fear, and music has actually, like somehow
825
00:37:58.639 --> 00:38:01.159
soundtracking on the role or coasters has its just been
826
00:38:01.159 --> 00:38:03.480
this very healing and restorative thing for me. But also
827
00:38:03.559 --> 00:38:07.840
live music. I just I feel, you know, when music, movement,
828
00:38:07.920 --> 00:38:11.599
and mindset come together, my soul feels at peace, and
829
00:38:11.639 --> 00:38:14.639
my body is not at peace. My body is doing
830
00:38:14.679 --> 00:38:17.280
things that I don't understand how it's possible. Like I
831
00:38:17.400 --> 00:38:20.920
was at a concert in November and the jumping that happens,
832
00:38:20.960 --> 00:38:23.199
I'm like, how I'm not I'm not a suit I
833
00:38:23.440 --> 00:38:25.159
try to be fit, I try to stay healthy, but
834
00:38:25.199 --> 00:38:27.920
I'm not like a super active human. So the amount
835
00:38:27.920 --> 00:38:33.320
of the jumping something to see. But your answer is fine,
836
00:38:33.320 --> 00:38:36.840
and it's interesting to me that there are that you
837
00:38:36.920 --> 00:38:38.880
are the second human I've talked to today and my
838
00:38:38.960 --> 00:38:41.760
husband falls into this category two where you just you
839
00:38:41.840 --> 00:38:44.719
do just like the peace and there's nothing, there's nothing
840
00:38:44.719 --> 00:38:47.400
wrong with that. You just like the stillness and and
841
00:38:47.480 --> 00:38:50.639
being honestly being present in the moment. And we could
842
00:38:50.679 --> 00:38:53.039
we could, truly like we could use more of that.
843
00:38:53.159 --> 00:38:55.239
So you don't have to apologize, and I wouldn't hate
844
00:38:55.280 --> 00:38:57.039
you for that answer. That's a very good answer. So
845
00:38:57.800 --> 00:39:02.159
and more of us need to find comfort in inside,
846
00:39:02.480 --> 00:39:04.719
you know, we don't need to always have that noise.
847
00:39:05.320 --> 00:39:06.599
I love my favorite noises.
848
00:39:06.639 --> 00:39:09.320
Are this gonna sound so dumb, but like I love
849
00:39:09.360 --> 00:39:13.440
the sound of like car tires on gravel. And I
850
00:39:13.480 --> 00:39:15.159
love the sound of like if we go camping, like
851
00:39:15.199 --> 00:39:17.840
the sound of the fire, like those sounds that I
852
00:39:17.960 --> 00:39:18.719
really really like.
853
00:39:19.000 --> 00:39:21.400
That does not sound what what word did you use?
854
00:39:21.440 --> 00:39:22.880
That that sounds amazing?
855
00:39:23.360 --> 00:39:24.000
Okay, good?
856
00:39:24.599 --> 00:39:25.920
Yeah, I don't know if those are called like just
857
00:39:25.960 --> 00:39:29.559
ambient sounds, I guess. But the waves, like if we
858
00:39:29.639 --> 00:39:31.800
ever get a place, like we go to Cabo a
859
00:39:31.840 --> 00:39:33.719
lot and we'll get a place on the beach, like
860
00:39:33.800 --> 00:39:35.599
I love sleeping with the door open so you can
861
00:39:35.639 --> 00:39:36.280
hear the waves.
862
00:39:36.360 --> 00:39:37.719
Like I like those types of sounds.
863
00:39:37.800 --> 00:39:40.440
Nature sounds too, like you're you're grounded in nature, and
864
00:39:40.719 --> 00:39:44.920
that's again a healing and restorative sound that you're you know,
865
00:39:45.159 --> 00:39:48.119
feeling peaced by that. That that's good. That's a good thing.
866
00:39:48.400 --> 00:39:53.280
So so to get to we've talked a little past,
867
00:39:53.880 --> 00:39:56.480
talked a little present, Let's talk a little future. This
868
00:39:56.559 --> 00:39:59.559
is hard, this is a harder one. But my thought is,
869
00:39:59.760 --> 00:40:02.519
you know, I have so much respect for a man
870
00:40:02.559 --> 00:40:05.599
who's passed away. His name was Dave Hollis, and he
871
00:40:06.119 --> 00:40:10.079
had in his book he wrote about his eightieth birthday
872
00:40:10.599 --> 00:40:12.599
and what he wanted that to look like and how
873
00:40:12.639 --> 00:40:15.320
he wanted the people he wanted there and the legacy
874
00:40:15.360 --> 00:40:18.880
that he wanted to leave, and this sad thing happened
875
00:40:18.920 --> 00:40:23.199
where he passed away and then suddenly abruptly, and it
876
00:40:23.239 --> 00:40:27.559
happened maybe two years ago, but he passed away, and
877
00:40:27.559 --> 00:40:29.239
then a bunch of us got on a zoom call.
878
00:40:29.280 --> 00:40:31.719
It was about two hundred people from all kinds of
879
00:40:31.760 --> 00:40:34.400
walks of life, and we had this like kind of
880
00:40:34.400 --> 00:40:38.400
like memorial service tribute to him, and everybody said the
881
00:40:38.519 --> 00:40:42.199
kindest things, and I just wished, I just wish that
882
00:40:42.239 --> 00:40:44.079
he could have heard, like I wished he could have
883
00:40:44.119 --> 00:40:47.119
been there. And of course, you know, I have faith
884
00:40:47.119 --> 00:40:49.079
and I believe that he was there in his way,
885
00:40:49.360 --> 00:40:51.840
but we need to say more of it out loud
886
00:40:51.920 --> 00:40:54.440
before it's too late. And I feel this way about
887
00:40:54.480 --> 00:40:56.199
the people we care about, but I also feel it
888
00:40:56.199 --> 00:40:58.760
about ourselves because I'm a huge believer and advocate for
889
00:40:58.800 --> 00:41:03.199
self love and the importance of really just it's not
890
00:41:03.280 --> 00:41:05.960
self serving to love on yourself like you need you
891
00:41:06.079 --> 00:41:08.440
need that because then the more you love on yourself,
892
00:41:08.480 --> 00:41:11.320
it just overflows into the world around you. So my
893
00:41:11.760 --> 00:41:16.519
eighty year old birthday situation for you, if you're sitting
894
00:41:16.559 --> 00:41:18.880
there with you know, your friends and family on your
895
00:41:18.920 --> 00:41:21.840
eightieth birthday? What do you want them to be saying
896
00:41:23.960 --> 00:41:26.440
about me or about you or in the room or
897
00:41:26.480 --> 00:41:28.400
how the everything about it? What do you want to
898
00:41:28.400 --> 00:41:30.239
look like? What do you want to sound like? And
899
00:41:30.280 --> 00:41:31.679
what do you want what do you want them to
900
00:41:31.679 --> 00:41:32.519
say about you?
901
00:41:36.400 --> 00:41:39.400
When I'm eighty, so we're talking thirty eight years from now.
902
00:41:39.440 --> 00:41:43.159
Don't do the math all reasons like you're sending a
903
00:41:43.199 --> 00:41:44.840
time clock on yourself. Don't do that.
904
00:41:45.320 --> 00:41:47.159
Well, I was just thinking like if I'm eighty, like
905
00:41:47.320 --> 00:41:48.719
if I do have a kid in the next couple years,
906
00:41:48.719 --> 00:41:51.639
and I'm probably sitting in front of like a thirty
907
00:41:51.679 --> 00:41:54.960
six year old small version of me, So I weirdly
908
00:41:54.960 --> 00:41:56.800
would want more of the attention to be on him
909
00:41:56.840 --> 00:41:59.480
and what or her and what they want to accomplish
910
00:41:59.480 --> 00:42:04.320
in their life. I think I would want It's interesting
911
00:42:04.320 --> 00:42:06.320
because I'm thinking, like, well, who's gonna be there that's
912
00:42:06.360 --> 00:42:08.280
talking about me, that doesn't already know me, that we
913
00:42:08.320 --> 00:42:12.760
haven't like you know, my hopefully wife at the time. Unfortunately,
914
00:42:12.800 --> 00:42:14.719
like my parents would be passed away, so it'd be
915
00:42:14.800 --> 00:42:16.679
like friends that would have been on this journey with me.
916
00:42:16.760 --> 00:42:18.280
I think they wanted to be like, man, you had
917
00:42:18.320 --> 00:42:20.199
a really cool career. You got to do a lot
918
00:42:20.239 --> 00:42:21.320
of cool things in life.
919
00:42:21.679 --> 00:42:24.559
And I would hope that whoever my child is would
920
00:42:24.599 --> 00:42:27.719
be like, there's this really cool video. I don't know
921
00:42:27.719 --> 00:42:31.840
if you've seen it, Jackie Chan watching clips of all
922
00:42:31.880 --> 00:42:33.519
of his work with his daughter.
923
00:42:34.519 --> 00:42:36.519
And then I'm writing it down. We're gonna we're gonna link.
924
00:42:36.559 --> 00:42:38.480
Then the show notes to Jackie.
925
00:42:38.920 --> 00:42:41.800
Who can watch it without crying, you're a superhero, because.
926
00:42:42.199 --> 00:42:44.440
She's all like not only like in awe, and like
927
00:42:44.800 --> 00:42:47.400
thinks he's so cool. But then she says like, didn't
928
00:42:47.400 --> 00:42:49.480
it hurt? And then he says, like so much, and
929
00:42:49.480 --> 00:42:50.760
then they both start crying.
930
00:42:51.519 --> 00:42:51.639
Uh.
931
00:42:52.199 --> 00:42:53.760
I don't know. It's such a way I could cry
932
00:42:53.840 --> 00:42:55.199
right now. It's such like a.
933
00:42:55.159 --> 00:42:58.559
Weird emotional video that it like that. I think is
934
00:42:58.639 --> 00:43:01.199
so cool to have somebody that looks up to you
935
00:43:01.239 --> 00:43:03.760
and respects you so much. That is, you know, your
936
00:43:03.880 --> 00:43:06.480
child thinking that what you did in your life not
937
00:43:06.559 --> 00:43:08.840
only was like cool, but it meant something, it mattered,
938
00:43:09.039 --> 00:43:14.480
Like that's I think the ultimate goal. But I think
939
00:43:14.519 --> 00:43:16.800
as long as I'm happy with how my life went
940
00:43:16.840 --> 00:43:18.800
too when I turn eighty, that that'll be enough. I
941
00:43:18.800 --> 00:43:22.360
don't need somebody else to tell me that it was
942
00:43:22.559 --> 00:43:25.159
it was all worthwhile, but I think that would be fun.
943
00:43:27.199 --> 00:43:31.639
Love it, so tell me. The whole purpose of having
944
00:43:31.719 --> 00:43:35.480
guests on here, Brent is particularly the first few. So
945
00:43:35.880 --> 00:43:37.559
you are one of the very first few people that
946
00:43:37.599 --> 00:43:41.280
I've so honored and so grateful to join me today.
947
00:43:41.280 --> 00:43:43.519
You said it was unreal coming on and talking to me.
948
00:43:43.639 --> 00:43:46.400
It is unreal having you here. So I am so
949
00:43:46.440 --> 00:43:49.760
grateful for you and for your belief and your investment
950
00:43:49.800 --> 00:43:53.519
of your time and energy and thoughts into this whole
951
00:43:53.519 --> 00:43:56.719
thing today. So as as this is my thank you, honestly,
952
00:43:56.719 --> 00:43:59.199
this whole episode is my thank you to you for
953
00:43:59.679 --> 00:44:02.239
just being honestly more of a transition figure in my
954
00:44:02.280 --> 00:44:04.679
life than you're aware of. So I wanted to give
955
00:44:04.719 --> 00:44:08.239
you as part of that, just a platform and a
956
00:44:08.280 --> 00:44:12.119
moment to say what's going on, like, what's coming? What
957
00:44:12.159 --> 00:44:14.760
should we be aware of? Where can people find you?
958
00:44:14.800 --> 00:44:17.079
Where can people follow you? Where can people cheer you on?
959
00:44:17.719 --> 00:44:20.280
Just walk us through what's next? For Brent.
960
00:44:21.760 --> 00:44:22.760
That's a great question.
961
00:44:22.880 --> 00:44:26.639
I you know, in my career you never really know
962
00:44:26.840 --> 00:44:27.599
what's next.
963
00:44:27.719 --> 00:44:29.599
You know what you've done.
964
00:44:29.719 --> 00:44:31.679
So I shot a couple movies back in twenty twenty
965
00:44:31.679 --> 00:44:34.000
two that are coming out this year. One of them
966
00:44:34.039 --> 00:44:36.960
is called The Huntsman. It comes out on February tenth
967
00:44:37.079 --> 00:44:39.320
on demand and digital. And then I have another movie
968
00:44:39.320 --> 00:44:41.119
called Dead of Night, which I honestly have no idea
969
00:44:41.320 --> 00:44:43.199
where it's going to be, but it's coming out sometime
970
00:44:43.239 --> 00:44:46.760
this year. And then I have a really good feeling
971
00:44:46.840 --> 00:44:49.840
about this year. I think not only just for me,
972
00:44:49.920 --> 00:44:52.599
but I think for my friends and the people that
973
00:44:52.599 --> 00:44:54.519
I'm close with, and I think the business in general
974
00:44:54.559 --> 00:44:56.400
and hopefully for all of humanity.
975
00:44:56.800 --> 00:44:58.119
But I think it's going to.
976
00:44:58.119 --> 00:45:02.559
Be a great year. I've been meeting tomorrow which could
977
00:45:02.679 --> 00:45:07.760
lead to some new movies. I have a couple different
978
00:45:07.800 --> 00:45:10.000
things lined up that maybe would get me involved in
979
00:45:10.039 --> 00:45:11.480
the business in a little bit of a different way
980
00:45:11.519 --> 00:45:13.679
as more of like an investor too.
981
00:45:13.760 --> 00:45:16.559
So I think there's a lot of doors that are opening, and.
982
00:45:16.519 --> 00:45:18.159
I do feel like I'm at this really cool point
983
00:45:18.159 --> 00:45:19.760
in my career where i think there is going to
984
00:45:19.800 --> 00:45:23.119
be a big shift and so I'm excited for what
985
00:45:23.239 --> 00:45:23.679
that is.
986
00:45:23.719 --> 00:45:25.639
But if you do want to follow along and.
987
00:45:25.679 --> 00:45:27.559
See if it turns out the way I think it is,
988
00:45:27.639 --> 00:45:31.000
I really am only active on Instagram, and it's just
989
00:45:31.119 --> 00:45:34.119
my name at Brent m Bailey because my name is
990
00:45:34.119 --> 00:45:37.679
Brent Michael Bailey. I'm not very active on there, so
991
00:45:37.679 --> 00:45:39.559
if you're looking for somebody that posts a lot, I
992
00:45:39.599 --> 00:45:42.000
don't do it very much. But I try to post
993
00:45:42.039 --> 00:45:44.159
when it matters. I just don't post about like my
994
00:45:44.239 --> 00:45:47.480
basic life every day because I as much as maybe
995
00:45:47.480 --> 00:45:49.320
it would be interesting, I feel like I don't think
996
00:45:49.320 --> 00:45:51.840
it's interesting, and so I don't do it. And I
997
00:45:51.920 --> 00:45:53.559
also just don't like to have to like have my
998
00:45:53.599 --> 00:45:55.239
phone out all the time. I like to live in
999
00:45:55.239 --> 00:45:56.920
the moment, So there won't be a lot, but there
1000
00:45:56.960 --> 00:45:58.639
will be highlights and it'll tell you where you can
1001
00:45:58.639 --> 00:46:02.400
see things that I'm doing. And yeah, I think that's
1002
00:46:02.480 --> 00:46:05.679
it as far as like professional stuff goes. I'm sure
1003
00:46:05.679 --> 00:46:09.119
there'll be more commercials. Fingers crossed. Chris gets to come
1004
00:46:09.199 --> 00:46:11.239
back for year three, but I have no idea if
1005
00:46:11.239 --> 00:46:11.960
it will or won't.
1006
00:46:12.800 --> 00:46:13.480
Yeah, that's it.
1007
00:46:14.360 --> 00:46:17.039
Thank you for that, and thank you for being here. Honestly,
1008
00:46:17.079 --> 00:46:19.840
I think that the the last thing that I want
1009
00:46:19.880 --> 00:46:22.119
to ask is is very open ended. So take it,
1010
00:46:22.480 --> 00:46:25.000
take it for what you want. But what did I
1011
00:46:25.039 --> 00:46:27.400
not ask that you would want? To share.
1012
00:46:29.480 --> 00:46:34.519
Oh gosh, nothing pops like directly into my mind.
1013
00:46:35.119 --> 00:46:38.639
Uh No, I think you did a great job.
1014
00:46:38.679 --> 00:46:40.920
I think I think we talked about this a little
1015
00:46:40.920 --> 00:46:42.880
bit in like the email before, about like planning what
1016
00:46:42.880 --> 00:46:45.079
we're going to talk about versus not planning, and I love.
1017
00:46:45.000 --> 00:46:47.480
The I mean, obviously you have to have some kind
1018
00:46:47.480 --> 00:46:47.760
of plan.
1019
00:46:47.800 --> 00:46:50.960
I have done these before where the person like clearly
1020
00:46:50.960 --> 00:46:53.360
doesn't even know who I am, and you're like, oh, oh,
1021
00:46:54.000 --> 00:46:55.840
this is this is this is going to be that
1022
00:46:55.960 --> 00:46:58.079
kind of interview. So I think like research and preparations
1023
00:46:58.119 --> 00:47:01.320
obviously very important, but I like having like a loose
1024
00:47:01.440 --> 00:47:03.320
guideline or outline of what we're going to do and
1025
00:47:03.360 --> 00:47:05.360
then just seem kind of where it flows because I
1026
00:47:05.400 --> 00:47:08.079
think it makes it more authentic and then you don't
1027
00:47:08.079 --> 00:47:13.159
get like pre prepared answers. So yeah, as far as
1028
00:47:13.199 --> 00:47:17.400
like what else you could have asked, I have no idea.
1029
00:47:17.800 --> 00:47:18.000
Yeah.
1030
00:47:18.199 --> 00:47:20.239
Then I think usually when people go to like what
1031
00:47:20.280 --> 00:47:22.119
can I ask that I haven't asked, it always like
1032
00:47:22.320 --> 00:47:23.880
tends to lean towards like favorites.
1033
00:47:23.920 --> 00:47:26.239
And I'm a terrible person at favorites, Like what's your
1034
00:47:26.239 --> 00:47:28.119
favorite food? And you're like, I don't know, like it
1035
00:47:28.119 --> 00:47:29.880
depends on what I'm in the mood for that night.
1036
00:47:30.360 --> 00:47:32.519
I really do want to know your favorite food, though.
1037
00:47:34.559 --> 00:47:36.000
I'm so bad at favorites.
1038
00:47:37.039 --> 00:47:38.760
Like I think if if you were like, hey, gun
1039
00:47:38.760 --> 00:47:40.440
to your head this you have to choose.
1040
00:47:40.239 --> 00:47:42.159
A meal, We're not doing that. How about it? You
1041
00:47:42.199 --> 00:47:44.880
have to have like a favorite candy or a favorite beverage,
1042
00:47:45.199 --> 00:47:48.960
or a favorite comfort food or.
1043
00:47:49.920 --> 00:47:54.320
Buts that her mom taught to her that we have
1044
00:47:54.519 --> 00:47:57.639
every Thanksgiving and Christmas, and they're so good.
1045
00:47:57.920 --> 00:48:00.760
Apparently back in the day they used to have a
1046
00:48:00.800 --> 00:48:01.119
farm and.
1047
00:48:01.119 --> 00:48:03.280
They would get like fresh eggs, and so the noodles,
1048
00:48:03.320 --> 00:48:05.519
because there's eggs in them, obviously that those would turn
1049
00:48:05.559 --> 00:48:08.079
out like a really beautiful like yellow eat orange color.
1050
00:48:08.440 --> 00:48:11.159
And now, unfortunately, I guess that color doesn't exist anymore
1051
00:48:11.199 --> 00:48:13.440
unless you get a product called like happy eggs, and
1052
00:48:13.480 --> 00:48:15.199
so now she has to add food coloring to make
1053
00:48:15.239 --> 00:48:17.480
it look the same. But it's like that with like
1054
00:48:17.519 --> 00:48:22.000
some mashed potatoes is definitely a comfort food. But if
1055
00:48:22.000 --> 00:48:23.400
I had to go, like I want something that I
1056
00:48:23.440 --> 00:48:24.960
really really really want, I think I would go like
1057
00:48:25.000 --> 00:48:27.519
surf and turf, like a really good steak, and like
1058
00:48:27.679 --> 00:48:29.159
lobster and scallops.
1059
00:48:29.599 --> 00:48:32.679
But I'm so Benny Hannah is one of my favorite restaurants.
1060
00:48:33.440 --> 00:48:35.599
There's something about the whole experience with like the tepping
1061
00:48:35.639 --> 00:48:39.199
table and like the volcano and like the beating heart
1062
00:48:39.760 --> 00:48:42.719
that it gets me every time. If you ever asked
1063
00:48:42.760 --> 00:48:43.960
me to go to Benny Hanna, I would be like,
1064
00:48:44.000 --> 00:48:44.800
where where we go?
1065
00:48:44.920 --> 00:48:45.079
Win?
1066
00:48:45.960 --> 00:48:47.840
Let's I will be there at the Encino one or
1067
00:48:47.840 --> 00:48:49.400
the Santa Monica on which what are we going to?
1068
00:48:50.000 --> 00:48:51.960
We're going to the Milwaukee one when you're in.
1069
00:48:51.920 --> 00:48:54.079
Milwaukee, Milwaukee want a pretty good one?
1070
00:48:54.480 --> 00:48:56.960
I haven't been that. I will go with you when
1071
00:48:56.960 --> 00:48:58.400
you're here. So that's the plan.
1072
00:48:59.000 --> 00:49:02.880
You've never been to any huh ever ever? Oh man, I.
1073
00:49:02.800 --> 00:49:06.119
Mean listen, you're gonna have an upset stomach because it's
1074
00:49:06.199 --> 00:49:08.519
just part of Benny hotapp But it's really good.
1075
00:49:09.239 --> 00:49:10.280
It's so worth it.
1076
00:49:12.239 --> 00:49:13.800
Oh my gosh.
1077
00:49:15.039 --> 00:49:18.239
On that note, Brent Dailey, thank you for being here today.
1078
00:49:19.719 --> 00:49:23.079
If you're seeing this, you're my friend. Thank you for
1079
00:49:23.119 --> 00:49:25.639
being here. I really appreciate that you took time out
1080
00:49:25.639 --> 00:49:29.639
of your day to spend with Lollo me. I would
1081
00:49:29.960 --> 00:49:34.280
love to hear from you. I actually don't. This part
1082
00:49:34.320 --> 00:49:36.599
is uncomfortable for me. Just just talking like this is
1083
00:49:36.679 --> 00:49:40.320
uncomfortable for me somehow more so than this, But that's
1084
00:49:40.639 --> 00:49:42.800
I've practiced that I have the TikTok and I do
1085
00:49:42.880 --> 00:49:46.119
the things, and this is harder. So please talk to me,
1086
00:49:46.719 --> 00:49:48.679
find me on social tell me what you thought, tell
1087
00:49:48.719 --> 00:49:51.079
me what you think, tell me what questions you have
1088
00:49:51.280 --> 00:49:53.519
or what guests you want to see. I want this
1089
00:49:53.639 --> 00:49:56.239
to feel like you're part of this, because you are.
1090
00:49:56.440 --> 00:49:58.960
You mean something to me and I'm so grateful. So
1091
00:49:59.360 --> 00:50:02.239
if you would be so kind as to go and
1092
00:50:02.800 --> 00:50:06.719
give me a review and some stars and just let
1093
00:50:06.760 --> 00:50:09.840
me know what you're thinking, I would really appreciate it.
1094
00:50:09.880 --> 00:50:12.840
And I'd love to see you back here any time.
1095
00:50:12.920 --> 00:50:16.440
To help you remember who you are while you build
1096
00:50:16.639 --> 00:50:19.920
who you're meant to be. Quick before you forget