Full Transcript for #368 That episode where we just ship open source

00:04:19.380 --> 00:04:24.120 So anyway, it's, it's really easy to debug print, which is good. 00:04:24.120 --> 00:04:25.580 And it's, it's a little friction. 00:04:25.580 --> 00:04:26.420 It's easy to add. 00:04:26.420 --> 00:04:34.400 Snoop is a, is a interesting, cool toolkit that he talks about for helping to see what's going on within your code. 00:04:34.400 --> 00:04:35.320 At each step. 00:04:35.320 --> 00:04:37.380 It's pretty cool tool as well. 00:04:37.380 --> 00:04:39.660 Let's just quickly go through some of the other two. 00:04:39.660 --> 00:04:42.760 That's, those are the two like printing logging sort of things. 00:04:42.760 --> 00:04:44.620 There's also ice cream that he mentions. 00:04:44.620 --> 00:04:48.060 And there's debuggers. 00:04:48.060 --> 00:04:59.400 So talking about debuggers, this is not, interestingly, he doesn't mention like IDEs, which that's what I usually, usually reach for is like either a PyCharm or VS Code debugger. 00:04:59.400 --> 00:05:02.960 But sometimes you don't have access to those. 00:05:03.100 --> 00:05:05.520 If you've like, if you're SSH into something or whatever. 00:05:05.520 --> 00:05:09.000 So invoking, being able to use PDB. 00:05:09.000 --> 00:05:12.000 I think he talks about PDB, which is the Python debugger. 00:05:12.000 --> 00:05:20.160 I, I learned how to actually had learned how to do this mostly just to talk about using PDB with pytest for the book. 00:05:20.160 --> 00:05:26.780 And now I use it once in a while because sometimes it's, it's, it's even more convenient, especially when using PDB with talks. 00:05:26.780 --> 00:05:27.280 It's great. 00:05:27.280 --> 00:05:31.800 So PDB, IPDB, which is an interactive REPL sort of thing. 00:05:31.800 --> 00:05:37.280 PUDB, which is kind of like a, it got panels and stuff. 00:05:37.280 --> 00:05:38.720 It's a nice terminal UI. 00:05:38.720 --> 00:05:42.480 Web PDB, which the same thing within a browser. 00:05:42.480 --> 00:05:43.320 It's kind of nice. 00:05:43.660 --> 00:05:47.340 Bird's eye is something I hadn't seen before, which is kind of cool talking about bird's eye. 00:05:47.340 --> 00:05:54.600 It has these kind of neat diagrams with like boxes around stuff as things change. 00:05:54.600 --> 00:05:56.820 It's a interesting interface. 00:05:57.080 --> 00:05:58.300 It's pretty, yeah. 00:05:58.300 --> 00:05:59.000 Yeah. 00:05:59.000 --> 00:06:03.460 I don't know if it's for me, but if it resonates with you, that's great. 00:06:03.460 --> 00:06:06.180 It might be worth trying on a, on a project. 00:06:06.180 --> 00:06:07.360 Kind of neat. 00:06:07.360 --> 00:06:11.480 Anyway, and then a quick shout out to some Django tools. 00:06:11.480 --> 00:06:20.620 So if you're, if you're debugging Django, there's the debug Django tool, the Django debug toolbar and a, an extension for VS Code called Colo. 00:06:20.620 --> 00:06:29.320 So anyway, some great advice about debugging specifically Python, but really kind of a lot of this advice applies to

everything. 00:06:29.320 --> 00:06:30.360 So nice. 00:06:30.360 --> 00:06:33.100 And kind of nice that there's a newsletter around that. 00:06:33.100 --> 00:06:34.600 Yeah, it is a nice newsletter. 00:06:34.600 --> 00:06:40.080 There's something kind of good about permanency of written stuff rather than, I mean, what we do is great. 00:06:40.080 --> 00:06:45.460 And I think it connects with a lot of people, but it's, it's harder to go back to it and like search it. 00:06:45.460 --> 00:06:56.380 So, yeah, and I kind of like the idea of, I know that a lot of newsletter, newsletters, software like Substack and things like that can keep it around for you in medium. 00:06:56.380 --> 00:07:04.360 But I like the idea of somebody doing a newsletter and putting the newsletter things on blog posts at the same time for people to reach out to. 00:07:04.360 --> 00:07:05.200 So neat. 00:07:05.200 --> 00:07:06.780 I might have more to say about that later. 00:07:07.980 --> 00:07:13.580 But I also have something to say about what you just pointed out, what you just talked about. 00:07:13.580 --> 00:07:16.380 And I have just done a new project. 00:07:16.380 --> 00:07:18.600 I have some things that I've been working on. 00:07:18.600 --> 00:07:26.520 You know, I already talked about the leave in the cloud and the interview with Mark Persinovich and how that inspired me to kind of rethink how our infrastructure goes. 00:07:26.520 --> 00:07:28.640 And it is just paying so many dividends. 00:07:28.640 --> 00:07:31.120 I'm going to talk about it in some interesting ways. 00:07:31.320 --> 00:07:36.020 And as part of that, I've had to write a little bit of new software and I'm like, I need some logging. 00:07:36.020 --> 00:07:37.860 I'm going to try Log Guru. 00:07:37.860 --> 00:07:38.740 Log Guru? 00:07:38.740 --> 00:07:39.500 No, no. 00:07:39.500 --> 00:07:40.660 The G is combined. 00:07:40.660 --> 00:07:43.640 And wow, is this a nice piece of logging software. 00:07:43.640 --> 00:07:48.440 So what I would suggest, Brian, if you're feeling the print coming on, if you're like, oh, I'm going to print this. 00:07:48.440 --> 00:07:51.260 I'm going to print my way to this bug solving this problem. 00:07:51.580 --> 00:07:54.640 Maybe consider Log Guru-ing your way. 00:07:54.640 --> 00:07:59.800 You just create the Log Guru thing and you can say use color and all of that. 00:07:59.800 --> 00:08:02.960 And it will also do print statements just to sys out, right? 00:08:02.960 --> 00:08:09.460 But you can see like right here on their homepage, it says like how to do like color and stuff like that. 00:08:09.460 --> 00:08:16.960 And then if you just logger.info or whatever, it'll print it out, but way more structured and with color. 00:08:17.060 --> 00:08:21.180 And then if there's an exception, you're going to like say print E or the exception. 00:08:21.180 --> 00:08:29.100 You could just say logger.exception and it will create the traceback showing the local variables at every step. 00:08:29.100 --> 00:08:34.460 So instead of having to jump into the debugger, you can just print your way to like, oh, here's the entire call stack and all the values. 00:08:34.460 --> 00:08:35.360 That's pretty cool. 00:08:35.360 --> 00:08:37.440 I super, super recommend it. 00:08:37.440 --> 00:08:38.500 I've been using Log Book. 00:08:38.500 --> 00:08:40.240 I'm a Log Guru fan. 00:08:40.240 --> 00:08:46.200 I'm resisting the urge to go and rewrite all my logging for all of my things because it's not that productive. 00:08:46.520 --> 00:08:47.740 But boy, my logging look cool. 00:08:47.740 --> 00:08:49.900 All right. 00:08:49.900 --> 00:08:51.000 That's not what I want to talk about. 00:08:51.000 --> 00:08:54.220 But I want to talk about things that were kind of inspired by that. 00:08:54.220 --> 00:08:56.580 So first, I want to talk about Umami. 00:08:56.580 --> 00:09:00.720 And this has a Python loopback really, really quickly here. 00:09:00.720 --> 00:09:03.420 But let's start from the outside in. 00:09:03.420 --> 00:09:03.720 Okay? 00:09:03.720 --> 00:09:04.380 Okay. 00:09:04.380 --> 00:09:12.800 So Brian, I set up Umami at umami.is, which is like Google Analytics, but not evil. 00:09:12.800 --> 00:09:13.740 That's awesome, right? 00:09:14.020 --> 00:09:16.460 So the idea is it's privacy preserving. 00:09:16.460 --> 00:09:20.360 It is GDPR and CCPA compliant. 00:09:20.360 --> 00:09:21.620 It's open source. 00:09:21.620 --> 00:09:24.420 And you can buy it as a service. 00:09:24.420 --> 00:09:24.780 Right? 00:09:24.780 --> 00:09:25.800 I can go over here and say pricing. 00:09:25.800 --> 00:09:31.280 For nine bucks, some period, I will get some number of websites. 00:09:31.280 --> 00:09:35.740 And it'll give me, you know, analytics like Google Analytics for my site. 00:09:35.740 --> 00:09:36.240 Right? 00:09:36.240 --> 00:09:37.120 That's pretty cool. 00:09:37.120 --> 00:09:37.920 Yeah. 00:09:37.960 --> 00:09:39.020 But what's better. 00:09:39.020 --> 00:09:42.800 The problem with that is it's still third-party JavaScript. 00:09:42.800 --> 00:09:45.880 Even if they don't use cookies, but it's still third-party JavaScript. 00:09:45.880 --> 00:09:51.400 And by way of that, it gets blocked a lot, especially by the developer crowd. 00:09:51.400 --> 00:09:51.920 Right? 00:09:51.920 --> 00:09:53.800 And I'm not, that's not a criticism. 00:09:53.800 --> 00:09:55.860 I'm like on the high end of blocking. 00:09:55.860 --> 00:09:56.160 Right? 00:09:56.160 --> 00:09:58.480 Like, I'm like, no, no, we're not doing this. 00:09:58.560 --> 00:10:00.300 No, you don't need this kind of stuff. 00:10:00.300 --> 00:10:00.540 Right? 00:10:00.540 --> 00:10:05.960 But if you run it on your own infrastructure, under your own domain, the app is doing nothing 00:10:05.960 --> 00:10:06.840 nefarious. 00:10:06.840 --> 00:10:10.180 It's talking to itself for some things and it's going back and talking to itself for other 00:10:10.180 --> 00:10:10.700 forward

tracking. 00:10:10.700 --> 00:10:16.780 So this is really, really easy to run under Docker as a multi-tier Docker app on your own 00:10:16.780 --> 00:10:18.020 domain, which is what I'm doing. 00:10:18.020 --> 00:10:23.080 And so now I can have some really nice insights into what are happening on Pythonbytes.fm, 00:10:23.080 --> 00:10:29.420 the courses, all that, without sharing any data with anyone ever and without being blocked 00:10:29.420 --> 00:10:33.700 because it's just code running on our own server, just like everything else on the website. 00:10:33.700 --> 00:10:34.440 That's cool. 00:10:34.440 --> 00:10:35.040 Awesome. 00:10:35.040 --> 00:10:35.260 Right? 00:10:35.260 --> 00:10:37.460 The problem is if you go over here and you're like, awesome. 00:10:37.460 --> 00:10:37.700 Okay. 00:10:37.700 --> 00:10:38.220 Developers. 00:10:38.220 --> 00:10:38.700 This is me. 00:10:38.700 --> 00:10:39.220 I'm a developer. 00:10:39.220 --> 00:10:39.800 Let's go. 00:10:39.800 --> 00:10:40.600 Let's take me to the docs. 00:10:40.600 --> 00:10:41.860 And cool. 00:10:41.860 --> 00:10:44.760 Look, there's an API section at the end down here. 00:10:44.760 --> 00:10:45.560 Okay. 00:10:45.560 --> 00:10:46.900 And now look, there's an API client. 00:10:46.900 --> 00:10:47.780 I don't want to write code. 00:10:47.880 --> 00:10:48.520 That's great. 00:10:48.520 --> 00:10:50.840 NPM install API client. 00:10:50.840 --> 00:10:53.340 Oh, crap. 00:10:53.340 --> 00:10:59.140 The only API client for Umami is JavaScript or TypeScript. 00:10:59.140 --> 00:10:59.500 I don't know. 00:10:59.500 --> 00:10:59.960 It doesn't matter. 00:10:59.960 --> 00:11:00.800 It runs in JavaScript. 00:11:00.800 --> 00:11:01.960 It's not Python, right? 00:11:01.960 --> 00:11:02.780 Actually, TypeScript. 00:11:02.780 --> 00:11:04.740 This whole app is basically TypeScript, right? 00:11:04.740 --> 00:11:06.940 That was until this week. 00:11:06.940 --> 00:11:13.960 So some guy down here named Michael released this thing called Umami-Analytics, put it on 00:11:13.960 --> 00:11:15.920 PyPI, go over to the homepage. 00:11:16.740 --> 00:11:19.320 And you can see it talks about how it works. 00:11:19.320 --> 00:11:23.880 Basically, one of the things that's really nice about Umami over certain other systems, 00:11:23.880 --> 00:11:30.040 like plausible.io is one that has been thrown around in the same space and it's similar, 00:11:30.040 --> 00:11:36.160 is that with Umami, you can send custom events that have nothing to do with direct web actions. 00:11:36.640 --> 00:11:43.200 So for example, suppose somebody signs up for an account and then opts into your newsletter. 00:11:43.200 --> 00:11:44.320 You just talked about newsletters. 00:11:44.320 --> 00:11:45.980 And then that's a double opt-in. 00:11:45.980 --> 00:11:50.360 So they get an email, which then goes back to some other place where they actually say, 00:11:50.360 --> 00:11:52.600 yes, I really, really do want to get this. 00:11:52.600 --> 00:11:55.500 It'd be cool if you could know, okay, that happened, right? 00:11:55.500 --> 00:12:02.420 And so the whole point of this Python library is to add Python-based events to your analytics 00:12:02.420 --> 00:12:04.960 on top of just what the JavaScript is like. 00:12:04.960 --> 00:12:07.860 You're on this page and then you went to that page and you came from this place and you're 00:12:07.860 --> 00:12:08.360 on this browser. 00:12:08.760 --> 00:12:13.980 It'll let you send in things like somebody bought a course, somebody confirmed their email 00:12:13.980 --> 00:12:18.160 address, somebody logged in with the mobile app for the first time. 00:12:18.160 --> 00:12:23.200 Like all of these things that have no straight HTML JavaScript experience, you can just pump 00:12:23.200 --> 00:12:25.280 those in right alongside all of your other analytics. 00:12:25.280 --> 00:12:30.920 Still all privacy preserving, not sharing data with anybody, no retargeting, no cookies, none 00:12:30.920 --> 00:12:31.440 of that crap. 00:12:31.440 --> 00:12:34.200 Just, I want to view into what's happening in my app. 00:12:34.200 --> 00:12:36.380 So this thing lets you add a custom event. 00:12:36.660 --> 00:12:39.060 And also you can like register multiple sites. 00:12:39.060 --> 00:12:40.620 You can list them out. 00:12:40.620 --> 00:12:46.620 It has both synchronous and asynchronous programming models based on Pydantic and HTTPX. 00:12:46.620 --> 00:12:48.620 And yeah, super easy to use. 00:12:48.620 --> 00:12:49.400 Very cool. 00:12:49.400 --> 00:12:50.020 Isn't that neat? 00:12:50.020 --> 00:12:50.540 Yeah. 00:12:50.540 --> 00:12:56.160 So recommend Umami, but one of the problems with Umami is there's not really a great client 00:12:56.160 --> 00:12:57.020 to like round that out. 00:12:57.020 --> 00:12:58.880 So check out the one that I created. 00:12:58.880 --> 00:12:59.440 Nice. 00:12:59.440 --> 00:13:01.020 This is going to be a theme this week. 00:13:01.020 --> 00:13:04.380 So apparently we didn't plan this. 00:13:04.380 --> 00:13:05.080 Like, no. 00:13:05.080 --> 00:13:05.680 Yeah. 00:13:06.100 --> 00:13:08.760 If we did, we would have both worn blue shirts. 00:13:08.760 --> 00:13:09.460 Oh, wait. 00:13:09.460 --> 00:13:10.580 We're both wearing blue shirts. 00:13:10.580 --> 00:13:11.840 We are wearing blue shirts. 00:13:11.840 --> 00:13:13.040 Oh, my tent is off though. 00:13:13.040 --> 00:13:14.360 All right. 00:13:14.360 --> 00:13:15.020 Over to you. 00:13:15.020 --> 00:13:21.340 I had an extra from the last one because there was a link from Eunice that about fstrings.help, 00:13:21.340 --> 00:13:24.040 which I think I've seen before, but I kind of forgot about. 00:13:24.040 --> 00:13:29.920 But just looks like a Jupyter notebook about fstrings, which is okay. 00:13:30.160 --> 00:13:31.860 Well, I'll have a link in the show notes. 00:13:31.860 --> 00:13:34.620 I wanted to mention that. 00:13:35.080 --> 00:13:38.200 So I did an open source thing

also. 00:13:38.200 --> 00:13:44.260 So I released a thing called pytest Suite Timeout. 00:13:44.260 --> 00:13:47.680 And there's a little, I guess, a story around it. 00:13:47.680 --> 00:13:53.000 So what happened was I recorded an episode of Python Test about repeating tests. 00:13:53.420 --> 00:13:56.680 And I noted that pytest Repeat doesn't have a timeout. 00:13:56.680 --> 00:13:59.240 But pytest Flake Finder does have a timeout. 00:13:59.240 --> 00:14:02.380 And it'd be kind of neat if repeat had a timeout also. 00:14:02.900 --> 00:14:07.020 And by timeout, I mean, there's like the entire suite. 00:14:07.020 --> 00:14:10.720 So if I want to say like, hey, I want to run like, I have an example. 00:14:10.720 --> 00:14:16.140 I want to run my suite like a thousand times or a test a thousand times because I'm looking 00:14:16.140 --> 00:14:18.280 for flaky behavior or something. 00:14:18.280 --> 00:14:21.440 But I want to make sure that it only runs like 10 minutes. 00:14:21.440 --> 00:14:24.480 Then I want, that's the behavior I wanted. 00:14:24.480 --> 00:14:28.840 Like the entire suite, not individual tests, but the entire suite to only be like 10 minutes 00:14:28.840 --> 00:14:29.900 or an hour or whatever. 00:14:29.900 --> 00:14:32.000 That's the behavior I want. 00:14:32.000 --> 00:14:33.640 And I couldn't figure it out. 00:14:33.640 --> 00:14:35.960 And so I wrote this. 00:14:35.960 --> 00:14:39.160 Now, it could have been in pytest Repeat. 00:14:39.160 --> 00:14:44.480 But while I was thinking about it, I thought, well, I have other times where like I've got 00:14:44.480 --> 00:14:49.160 parameterized tests that are like big lists, like 20 different waveforms or something that 00:14:49.160 --> 00:14:50.220 I'm passing through something. 00:14:50.220 --> 00:14:54.120 And sometimes I don't really know how long those are going to take. 00:14:54.120 --> 00:14:58.100 It'd be kind of nice to be able to say, hey, I want to make sure that the whole suite isn't 00:14:58.100 --> 00:14:59.420 longer than so much. 00:14:59.420 --> 00:15:02.440 So I made it its own plugin. 00:15:02.440 --> 00:15:03.620 So here it is. 00:15:03.620 --> 00:15:04.820 pytest Sweet Timeout. 00:15:04.820 --> 00:15:07.080 You just pass it a flag. 00:15:07.080 --> 00:15:10.200 It's still, I just sort of did this a couple of days ago. 00:15:10.200 --> 00:15:12.840 And I think there might be bugs in it. 00:15:12.840 --> 00:15:15.380 So I guess don't put it in production yet. 00:15:15.380 --> 00:15:17.300 That's why I never did. 00:15:17.300 --> 00:15:17.720 Well, production. 00:15:17.720 --> 00:15:18.420 Yeah. 00:15:18.420 --> 00:15:24.960 It's a little lower bar for test production rather than I took down the website. 00:15:25.140 --> 00:15:29.120 It just took down CI/CD is possibly what you might take down, which is still a problem. 00:15:29.120 --> 00:15:29.820 Yeah. 00:15:29.820 --> 00:15:33.100 Well, I think I just ran across this morning. 00:15:33.100 --> 00:15:33.900 I was playing with it. 00:15:33.900 --> 00:15:36.740 At least one use case, the word doesn't actually time out. 00:15:36.740 --> 00:15:41.400 But so that's the behavior when it fails is it won't time out. 00:15:41.660 --> 00:15:44.160 But we'll work with it and fix it. 00:15:44.160 --> 00:15:45.040 That's super cool. 00:15:45.040 --> 00:15:47.840 One of the, I announced it on Mastodon. 00:15:47.840 --> 00:15:52.440 And Mike Felder said, that's pretty cool. 00:15:52.440 --> 00:15:55.560 But have you tried pytest-Timeout? 00:15:55.560 --> 00:15:58.060 Which, yeah, there's another one called Timeout. 00:15:58.060 --> 00:16:00.660 And it seems like that should be like what I want. 00:16:00.660 --> 00:16:04.860 It's just the timeout is the pytest timeout is per test. 00:16:04.860 --> 00:16:11.660 It just makes sure that individual tests themselves don't run longer than a certain amount. 00:16:11.660 --> 00:16:15.280 And this is kind of like, you should know this, right? 00:16:15.280 --> 00:16:17.580 Probably about how long your tests run. 00:16:17.580 --> 00:16:21.580 But there's, it's Python and software. 00:16:21.580 --> 00:16:26.240 So sometimes infinite loops happen or some use case that you never break out of. 00:16:26.240 --> 00:16:35.800 And also, like, just the fact that it's taking way longer than it should might be something you want to trigger as an error, right? 00:16:35.800 --> 00:16:47.120 Like, if for some reason you want to talk to a database or an API directly and you're not stubbing it out, if those things are down, it could take 20 seconds for them to say, nope, every single time. 00:16:47.120 --> 00:16:51.060 And you might want to say, if this ever takes more than five seconds, something's wrong and just kill it. 00:16:51.060 --> 00:16:51.860 You know what I mean? 00:16:51.860 --> 00:16:52.320 Right? 00:16:52.320 --> 00:16:54.320 Like, I think that would even be reasonable. 00:16:54.760 --> 00:17:00.320 Yeah, so that's the idea around pytest timeout is if it takes longer than a certain amount, attempts to kill it. 00:17:00.320 --> 00:17:00.860 And it does. 00:17:00.860 --> 00:17:06.080 It does, like, SIG events and stuff to try to kill the process that's taking too long. 00:17:06.080 --> 00:17:06.980 Excellent. 00:17:06.980 --> 00:17:09.880 Whereas the new one, sweet timeout, is nice. 00:17:09.880 --> 00:17:11.340 It won't kill anything. 00:17:11.340 --> 00:17:14.460 But it also, it won't stop, something like that. 00:17:14.460 --> 00:17:19.700 But it'll just, between tests, say, hey, this is taking kind of too long. 00:17:19.700 --> 00:17:20.600 Let's stop now. 00:17:21.040 --> 00:17:22.000 Okay. 00:17:22.000 --> 00:17:25.880 Well, you might not want to SIG kill either. 00:17:25.880 --> 00:17:34.620 Because what if it's going to put something in a database, do some stuff, and then take it back out or make a file change and then clean up the temporary files or, you know, whatever, right? 00:17:35.560 --> 00:17:36.000 Yeah.

00:17:36.000 --> 00:17:40.720 The other part of this, though, is I think it's too nice so far. 00:17:40.720 --> 00:17:44.360 It doesn't throw any exceptions or errors or anything. 00:17:44.360 --> 00:17:46.300 It just stops the counting. 00:17:46.500 --> 00:17:54.060 So if you normally, like, in this example, if I had 1,000 and I only get through, like, 150, it just stops, passes everything. 00:17:54.060 --> 00:17:56.680 But it only ran 150 instead of 1,000. 00:17:56.680 --> 00:18:02.420 I'm trying to figure out a way to, like, alert the user a little bit more that there's something wrong. 00:18:02.420 --> 00:18:04.560 So we'll see. 00:18:04.560 --> 00:18:07.160 It'll grow a little bit after this. 00:18:07.540 --> 00:18:07.620 Cool. 00:18:07.620 --> 00:18:08.500 Oh, excellent. 00:18:08.500 --> 00:18:09.260 Excellent. 00:18:09.260 --> 00:18:12.800 This is a crazy episode of where it's just we all created a bunch of things. 00:18:12.800 --> 00:18:14.500 So let's go back to things we created, huh? 00:18:14.500 --> 00:18:15.040 Okay. 00:18:15.040 --> 00:18:15.200 Next one. 00:18:15.200 --> 00:18:19.640 This one is also a thing I didn't create, but outside in again. 00:18:20.000 --> 00:18:22.920 So I've been using MailChimp for years. 00:18:22.920 --> 00:18:32.480 And when I first started using MailChimp, you know, MailChimp is I want to let you subscribe to my newsletter and put you into groups so that if I only want to talk to the Talk Python people, I can send that message. 00:18:32.480 --> 00:18:35.500 If I only want to talk to the Python Bytes people, I can send that message, right? 00:18:35.500 --> 00:18:40.400 And the price has just been going up and up and up, like hundreds of $100 this month. 00:18:40.400 --> 00:18:41.500 The next one, then another $100. 00:18:41.500 --> 00:18:43.620 You're like, what is going on with these people? 00:18:43.620 --> 00:18:44.740 You know, Intuit bought it. 00:18:44.740 --> 00:18:50.080 And it used to be like kind of a cute little company, and now it's just an accounting firm grinding its users. 00:18:50.080 --> 00:18:51.680 And I kind of don't want anything else to do with it. 00:18:51.680 --> 00:19:00.380 And I would much prefer to not share all of the people, customers, people who just want to subscribe their data with a third party either, right? 00:19:00.380 --> 00:19:03.260 So I went on, I think I talked about this before. 00:19:03.260 --> 00:19:08.320 Remember I talked about the 10 different options that people had sent out of possible newsletter places? 00:19:08.320 --> 00:19:08.720 Yeah. 00:19:08.720 --> 00:19:13.660 I wish I remember who told me on Mastodon, but somebody said, well, there's these five open source ones. 00:19:13.660 --> 00:19:14.480 I'm like, wait a minute. 00:19:14.820 --> 00:19:15.800 Okay, that's interesting. 00:19:15.800 --> 00:19:20.620 And so after a bunch of research, I decided to turn on ListMonk. 00:19:20.620 --> 00:19:25.700 And ListMonk is written in Go, and it's an open source. 00:19:25.700 --> 00:19:27.400 There's not even a SaaS version. 00:19:27.400 --> 00:19:31.440 It's just self-hosted version of basically MailChimp, right? 00:19:31.440 --> 00:19:32.780 You can have different lists. 00:19:32.780 --> 00:19:33.880 People can subscribe to them. 00:19:33.880 --> 00:19:34.660 You can put them into groups. 00:19:34.660 --> 00:19:36.460 You send them emails, all that kind of stuff, right? 00:19:36.460 --> 00:19:36.860 Yeah. 00:19:36.860 --> 00:19:43.380 So again, because I have all this cool Docker infrastructure stuff set up now, it was super easy to just move that over 00:19:43.380 --> 00:19:45.380 and run that in Docker, right? 00:19:45.500 --> 00:19:46.400 Just like you, Mom. 00:19:46.400 --> 00:19:48.580 You're like, okay, how do I talk to it? 00:19:48.580 --> 00:19:50.860 There's not even an official API client. 00:19:50.860 --> 00:19:53.020 The ones you find are like, well, here's one for PHP. 00:19:53.020 --> 00:19:58.380 There's actually several for Python, but they're really bad and they don't work. 00:19:58.600 --> 00:19:59.620 I mean, really bad. 00:19:59.620 --> 00:20:07.740 So some of them, for example, are just, they look at the Swagger docs or the open API docs and they're just auto-generated. 00:20:07.740 --> 00:20:12.280 But somehow it's like stuck in time, auto-generated on an old version that doesn't work anymore. 00:20:12.280 --> 00:20:12.700 I don't know. 00:20:12.700 --> 00:20:14.800 It's like even the auto-generated one doesn't work. 00:20:14.800 --> 00:20:18.280 I'm like, ah, man, I really need this even more than the umami thing. 00:20:18.280 --> 00:20:20.260 I need code to be written. 00:20:20.500 --> 00:20:26.060 So like someone creates an account when they buy a course and they say, yes, I want to be, you know, I ask them, do you want to be in the middle of this? 00:20:26.060 --> 00:20:26.820 Yes, I want to be there. 00:20:26.820 --> 00:20:28.100 How do I make that happen? 00:20:28.100 --> 00:20:28.460 Right? 00:20:28.460 --> 00:20:30.020 Well, Python, of course. 00:20:30.020 --> 00:20:38.940 So over the next project, ListMonk email app API client for Python or just pip install ListMonk. 00:20:39.180 --> 00:20:41.320 So over here, this is the next one. 00:20:41.320 --> 00:20:42.460 Super nice. 00:20:42.460 --> 00:20:44.880 You can add a subscriber, get details about them. 00:20:44.880 --> 00:20:52.800 One of the things that's cool in ListMonk is there's a arbitrary JSON Python dictionary type thing associated with each user. 00:20:52.800 --> 00:20:55.360 So whatever data you want to put in there, you can. 00:20:55.360 --> 00:20:56.660 And with this thing, you can manage it. 00:20:56.660 --> 00:21:03.120 Like, for example, if one thing that's common is you have a rating or things along those lines or actions. 00:21:03.120 --> 00:21:06.040 So you can put that into the user as part of their user record. 00:21:06.040 --> 00:21:07.580 So you can manage it with that. 00:21:07.660 -->

00:21:11.820 You can search them, check the health of your self-hosted thing, segment on your list. 00:21:11.820 --> 00:21:14.100 Obviously, you've got to unsubscribe and delete users. 00:21:14.100 --> 00:21:15.940 You can even send transactional emails. 00:21:15.940 --> 00:21:18.140 So super, super cool stuff. 00:21:18.140 --> 00:21:27.160 Again, one more nice open source thing that's not, you know, some big, super expensive privacy questionable SaaS service. 00:21:27.160 --> 00:21:29.520 And instead, running good over here. 00:21:29.520 --> 00:21:30.520 It does take a little bit of work. 00:21:30.520 --> 00:21:32.700 Umami is like perfect. 00:21:33.260 --> 00:21:38.060 This is a little clunky in some little edge cases, but it's still quite nice. 00:21:38.060 --> 00:21:39.580 So that's the next project. 00:21:39.580 --> 00:21:42.180 Also available on PyPI today. 00:21:42.180 --> 00:21:43.380 Nice. 00:21:43.380 --> 00:21:45.420 Well, that's it for our items. 00:21:45.420 --> 00:21:46.520 Cool. 00:21:46.520 --> 00:21:50.580 Between all these things, we can help people write one, a little bit better test. 00:21:50.700 --> 00:21:57.580 And two, depend a little bit less on just giving up a little bit of privacy to trade it in convenience. 00:21:57.580 --> 00:21:59.540 Like Google Analytics, for example. 00:21:59.540 --> 00:22:02.140 Or to a lesser degree, some of these mail platforms. 00:22:02.140 --> 00:22:02.720 Yeah. 00:22:02.720 --> 00:22:03.200 Yeah. 00:22:03.200 --> 00:22:04.560 And save some money while you're at it. 00:22:04.560 --> 00:22:04.960 All right. 00:22:05.180 --> 00:22:10.900 Well, normally we would jump into some extras and I don't have any extras this week. 00:22:10.900 --> 00:22:12.340 So do you have any extras? 00:22:12.340 --> 00:22:14.060 I do have extras. 00:22:14.060 --> 00:22:15.480 Well, let's see what have I got here. 00:22:15.480 --> 00:22:16.540 Yeah. 00:22:16.540 --> 00:22:16.740 Okay. 00:22:16.740 --> 00:22:19.840 So the first one is if I'm running self-hosting these things, right? 00:22:19.840 --> 00:22:21.160 I'm running them in a Docker cluster. 00:22:21.160 --> 00:22:28.140 So it's really easy to basically just do a Docker pull, restart, you know, relaunch the app. 00:22:28.140 --> 00:22:28.900 Off it goes. 00:22:28.900 --> 00:22:29.360 Right. 00:22:29.360 --> 00:22:30.060 So that's awesome. 00:22:30.060 --> 00:22:32.940 That's one of the reasons I'm willing to run like you, mommy. 00:22:32.940 --> 00:22:37.440 Rather than like I have a server and all these database things that get a patch and whatever. 00:22:37.440 --> 00:22:37.700 Right. 00:22:37.700 --> 00:22:42.140 Just literally one command to manage like 15 multi-tier apps. 00:22:42.140 --> 00:22:42.620 It's awesome. 00:22:42.620 --> 00:22:44.700 But how do you know when there's a new one? 00:22:44.700 --> 00:22:45.100 Right. 00:22:45.100 --> 00:22:47.140 Obviously, you could just set it up to just do it continuously. 00:22:47.440 --> 00:22:52.020 But what I

realized is every GitHub repository, this has nothing to do with you, mommy. 00:22:52.020 --> 00:22:52.740 It's just an example. 00:22:52.740 --> 00:22:56.380 Every GitHub repository, if they use releases, right? 00:22:56.380 --> 00:23:03.520 If you go over here and you say like the releases, like I have a V0 1.10 for my you, mommy thing. 00:23:03.520 --> 00:23:04.940 And there's actually two of them. 00:23:04.940 --> 00:23:12.220 If you have that for any project, you can just go to the GitHub URL for the web, not the dot 00:23:12.220 --> 00:23:12.580 get thing. 00:23:12.580 --> 00:23:15.180 And just to slash releases dot Adam. 00:23:15.540 --> 00:23:20.000 And that's an RSS feed for the releases for any GitHub project, even if they don't have a blog. 00:23:20.000 --> 00:23:20.920 Wow. 00:23:20.920 --> 00:23:21.920 That's cool, right? 00:23:21.920 --> 00:23:22.720 Yeah. 00:23:22.720 --> 00:23:24.400 I can put this in Feedly then. 00:23:24.400 --> 00:23:25.000 Yes. 00:23:25.000 --> 00:23:26.360 I put it in Reader for me. 00:23:26.360 --> 00:23:29.980 And now I have Lismunk and you mommy and a few other things. 00:23:29.980 --> 00:23:34.040 And I'm like, if this gets changed, I probably want to just go take a little action on that real quick. 00:23:34.040 --> 00:23:35.520 And now it's in my RSS feed. 00:23:35.520 --> 00:23:36.760 That's pretty cool. 00:23:36.760 --> 00:23:37.240 Yeah. 00:23:37.240 --> 00:23:37.900 So very simple. 00:23:37.900 --> 00:23:40.640 Anyone can just watch whatever they want. 00:23:40.640 --> 00:23:42.400 Brian, we both tried to do this one. 00:23:42.400 --> 00:23:42.940 Yeah. 00:23:42.940 --> 00:23:43.640 Colo. 00:23:43.860 --> 00:23:45.080 You mentioned it in your article. 00:23:45.080 --> 00:23:50.100 I ran across this because I, sorry, I don't remember the last name, but I saw one of my 00:23:50.100 --> 00:23:51.560 Mastodon followers, Lily. 00:23:51.560 --> 00:23:56.980 She somehow interacted with me and her profile came by in my app. 00:23:56.980 --> 00:24:02.060 And I saw that she works on this thing called Colo, debugging for Django apps. 00:24:02.060 --> 00:24:02.860 I'm like, oh, that's interesting. 00:24:02.860 --> 00:24:03.400 What is this? 00:24:03.400 --> 00:24:04.960 So this is a thing that's in beta. 00:24:04.960 --> 00:24:10.300 It says, see everything happening in your running Django app. 00:24:10.380 --> 00:24:13.960 And they have a really nice design of their webpage here. 00:24:13.960 --> 00:24:16.720 So probably best to see visually. 00:24:16.720 --> 00:24:20.680 It says debug your Django app 10 times faster, get instant access, et cetera, et cetera. 00:24:20.680 --> 00:24:23.000 So this is a plugin or extension for VS Code. 00:24:23.000 --> 00:24:27.580 And it just has tons of information all available to you. 00:24:27.580 --> 00:24:30.640 So it has a tab or whatever the thing on the left is. 00:24:30.700 --> 00:24:40.400 You can see it as a plugin, and it shows you the request response, kind of like

dev tools 00:24:40.400 --> 00:24:41.140 in a web browser. 00:24:41.140 --> 00:24:48.760 So you can see headers, HTTP requests, responses as kind of a running history of the HTTP exchange 00:24:48.760 --> 00:24:50.900 your browser is having with your Django app. 00:24:50.900 --> 00:24:51.720 That's cool, right? 00:24:51.940 --> 00:24:57.480 And I think it's showing you, I'm not entirely sure, but I think it might be showing you even 00:24:57.480 --> 00:25:00.120 Python code, not just web things, right? 00:25:00.120 --> 00:25:05.460 It has local variables, arguments, and then it has even like this tree thing for visualizing 00:25:05.460 --> 00:25:06.660 code execution paths. 00:25:06.660 --> 00:25:08.300 So, yeah. 00:25:08.300 --> 00:25:11.680 So you click on the, sorry, you click on the request. 00:25:11.680 --> 00:25:15.260 It shows you the code, and then it actually shows you the local variables that were passed 00:25:15.260 --> 00:25:15.800 around as well. 00:25:15.800 --> 00:25:16.520 It's pretty neat. 00:25:16.840 --> 00:25:17.040 Yeah. 00:25:17.040 --> 00:25:22.240 I don't know that the tree, the visual thing is super pretty, but I don't know how full 00:25:22.240 --> 00:25:23.880 it is, but I haven't played with it yet. 00:25:23.880 --> 00:25:24.820 I agree with you. 00:25:24.820 --> 00:25:25.580 It's awesome. 00:25:25.580 --> 00:25:26.680 Wouldn't use it. 00:25:26.680 --> 00:25:30.560 Yeah. 00:25:30.560 --> 00:25:32.440 You can do, what is it? 00:25:32.440 --> 00:25:34.900 Inspect all the outbound HTTP requests made. 00:25:34.900 --> 00:25:35.740 That's kind of neat. 00:25:35.740 --> 00:25:41.000 And SQL queries, you can, it'll track all the SQL queries that were made. 00:25:41.000 --> 00:25:42.860 Really good for understanding what's happening. 00:25:42.860 --> 00:25:43.740 What's up, Brian? 00:25:43.740 --> 00:25:43.960 Good. 00:25:43.960 --> 00:25:46.700 No, it's just really nice because you never know when you're, 00:25:46.700 --> 00:25:50.300 queries get out of hand and you're making way more than you need to. 00:25:50.300 --> 00:25:51.020 Exactly. 00:25:51.020 --> 00:25:56.900 Especially in the ORM space, because it's so easy to do lazy loading and say, give me all 00:25:56.900 --> 00:25:58.480 the customers for each customer. 00:25:58.480 --> 00:26:00.400 Get me this thing about them. 00:26:00.400 --> 00:26:02.200 And that's a relationship. 00:26:02.200 --> 00:26:07.240 So every time through the loop, it's another database query, the so-called N plus one performance 00:26:07.240 --> 00:26:07.580 problem. 00:26:07.580 --> 00:26:07.800 Right. 00:26:07.800 --> 00:26:10.680 And you would just see like, whoa, the SQL thing is full. 00:26:10.680 --> 00:26:13.740 I thought there were like two or three requests and now it's just full. 00:26:13.740 --> 00:26:14.940 What is happening here? 00:26:14.940 --> 00:26:15.180 Right. 00:26:15.180 --> 00:26:16.240 So that's great. 00:26:16.620 --> 00:26:17.160 Yeah. 00:26:17.160 --> 00:26:17.480 Anyway. 00:26:17.480 --> 00:26:18.780 Ooh, background jobs. 00:26:18.780 --> 00:26:19.340 Yeah. 00:26:19.340 --> 00:26:21.500 Even contract your salary background tasks. 00:26:21.500 --> 00:26:22.640 So right now it's in beta. 00:26:22.640 --> 00:26:25.240 I'm pretty sure this is a thing that costs money at some point. 00:26:25.240 --> 00:26:26.540 Yeah. 00:26:26.540 --> 00:26:28.640 So if you VS Code, check this out. 00:26:28.640 --> 00:26:29.300 It's kind of interesting. 00:26:29.300 --> 00:26:30.340 Yeah, definitely. 00:26:30.340 --> 00:26:30.940 Neat. 00:26:30.940 --> 00:26:31.460 Neat. 00:26:31.460 --> 00:26:31.820 All right. 00:26:31.820 --> 00:26:37.900 Another thing that's cool is I've talked about warp before and I've been using warp at the 00:26:37.900 --> 00:26:38.760 terminal a lot. 00:26:38.760 --> 00:26:44.620 one of the drawbacks of warp for all of its beauty and cool features is that it doesn't, 00:26:44.620 --> 00:26:48.840 it only works on Mac for now, which is a limitation, let's call it. 00:26:48.840 --> 00:26:49.800 Not for me. 00:26:50.940 --> 00:26:51.760 For other people. 00:26:51.760 --> 00:26:53.500 Not for me, but for a good chunk. 00:26:53.500 --> 00:26:55.680 Now I say it's only somewhat of a limitation. 00:26:55.680 --> 00:27:02.840 So like on my Mac, if I SSH into my Docker cluster thing that I've been talking about, warp will 00:27:02.840 --> 00:27:08.280 like inject the warp behaviors into the Linux shell over there. 00:27:08.280 --> 00:27:11.900 So I get like end to end warp as a Mac user. 00:27:11.900 --> 00:27:17.220 But if I was actually a Linux user, I couldn't use warp because it's a Mac app until pretty 00:27:17.220 --> 00:27:17.660 much now. 00:27:17.660 --> 00:27:17.860 Right. 00:27:17.860 --> 00:27:20.720 So coming soon is warp on Linux. 00:27:20.720 --> 00:27:22.260 So people want to sign up for that. 00:27:22.260 --> 00:27:26.840 I put a link for in the Linux terminal signup page to get on the wait list. 00:27:26.840 --> 00:27:31.680 And warp is just a super neat way to work with, with your terminal. 00:27:31.680 --> 00:27:32.920 It's more like an editor. 00:27:32.920 --> 00:27:36.120 It's got AI built in, which most AI built in things I hate. 00:27:36.120 --> 00:27:36.960 They're really bad. 00:27:36.980 --> 00:27:39.200 But you can say things like just say hash. 00:27:39.200 --> 00:27:44.580 And then you'll say something like, you know, search this directory for all files with this 00:27:44.580 --> 00:27:46.500 pattern, except that directory. 00:27:46.500 --> 00:27:49.840 And then it'll go, here's the command that you type, you know, like that kind of it's 00:27:49.840 --> 00:27:52.800 because it's that kind of stuff that I'm like, what's the parameter to this? 00:27:52.800 --> 00:27:54.240 How do I grep that again? 00:27:54.240 --> 00:27:55.040 I don't have no idea. 00:27:55.040 --> 00:27:57.000 So anyway, it's pretty cool. 00:27:57.000 --> 00:27:58.780 I wonder if it's set up. 00:27:58.780 -->

00:28:04.280 I'm just curious if it's since they're doing different platforms, if they've got a UI layer 00:28:04.280 --> 00:28:05.600 and then a warp core. 00:28:06.140 --> 00:28:08.420 Oh my God, they probably do have a warp core. 00:28:08.420 --> 00:28:11.960 And if they didn't name it that they've really lost a chance here, right? 00:28:11.960 --> 00:28:13.100 Yeah, hopefully. 00:28:13.100 --> 00:28:15.500 So I talked about this before. 00:28:15.500 --> 00:28:21.480 I realized through search about two and a half years ago, something called BPytop. 00:28:21.700 --> 00:28:26.580 So BPytop is an awesome, if it gets too small, it thinks it's going to hide all of its graphics, 00:28:26.580 --> 00:28:30.120 way to look at how your server is going. 00:28:30.120 --> 00:28:34.820 And it is so neat the way that this app works. 00:28:34.820 --> 00:28:36.560 I definitely, let me just, I'll put it up. 00:28:36.780 --> 00:28:42.700 Here's the live running version of the one that I've been messing with lately. 00:28:42.700 --> 00:28:45.100 And Brian, you can see you've got your memory. 00:28:45.100 --> 00:28:47.420 There's not a whole lot of action going on right now. 00:28:47.420 --> 00:28:48.740 So it's kind of blank graphs. 00:28:48.740 --> 00:28:51.200 But like if the memory jumped up, you would see it go up. 00:28:51.240 --> 00:28:56.660 It shows you how much memory is free, how much is being used, how much of that is being cached. 00:28:56.660 --> 00:28:57.860 Disk activity. 00:28:57.860 --> 00:29:00.880 You can see the network traffic. 00:29:00.880 --> 00:29:03.820 The multiple, you know, it has four CPUs. 00:29:03.820 --> 00:29:07.760 And it shows you graphs for all four CPUs as well as like the combined. 00:29:08.320 --> 00:29:13.080 And I'm not going to show the processes because they might show command arguments that I don't 00:29:13.080 --> 00:29:13.160 know. 00:29:13.160 --> 00:29:13.740 I just don't want to share. 00:29:13.740 --> 00:29:18.220 But it seems like it probably somehow could be a bad idea that I'm not aware of. 00:29:18.220 --> 00:29:20.060 But we'll learn later in a hard way. 00:29:20.060 --> 00:29:24.940 But isn't that an amazing way to just, this is over an SSH session. 00:29:24.940 --> 00:29:26.200 Oh, that's pretty cool. 00:29:26.200 --> 00:29:26.960 That's amazing. 00:29:26.960 --> 00:29:27.740 Yeah. 00:29:27.740 --> 00:29:28.980 And watch this. 00:29:28.980 --> 00:29:35.480 So if I just hit escape, you get even, it's like an old video game options with mouse support 00:29:35.480 --> 00:29:36.060 and everything. 00:29:36.060 --> 00:29:37.060 Oh, that's pretty cool. 00:29:37.060 --> 00:29:37.480 Yeah. 00:29:37.720 --> 00:29:44.900 So another thing to sort of announce here is there's bPyTop, which you can pipx install. 00:29:44.900 --> 00:29:49.380 But they've also, as part of this, released a bTop rewritten. 00:29:49.380 --> 00:29:51.120 And I think it must be C++. 00:29:51.120 --> 00:29:53.460 So anyway, that's cool, right? 00:29:53.460 --> 00:29:56.680 People can, I think that's supposed to be a little bit more high performance. 00:29:56.680 --> 00:30:00.080 Although to me, they kind of seem like the same type of thing. 00:30:00.080 --> 00:30:01.320 Anyway, really cool. 00:30:01.320 --> 00:30:06.580 If you've been using like Top or something like this, you know, there's a really much better 00:30:06.580 --> 00:30:08.800 way and glances is good. 00:30:08.800 --> 00:30:11.580 But bTop is the new, the new winner in my world here. 00:30:11.580 --> 00:30:16.260 And you know, those sort of graphs, even if you don't need them, you can have a second monitor 00:30:16.260 --> 00:30:17.340 and have one of those running. 00:30:17.340 --> 00:30:21.160 Everybody in your life will think you do something cooler than you actually do. 00:30:21.160 --> 00:30:21.640 Whoa. 00:30:21.640 --> 00:30:22.940 You're a hacker, aren't you? 00:30:22.940 --> 00:30:23.580 That's a terminal. 00:30:23.580 --> 00:30:25.960 Yeah, I am. 00:30:26.040 --> 00:30:26.160 Okay. 00:30:26.160 --> 00:30:26.700 Yeah. 00:30:26.700 --> 00:30:27.660 Don't cross me. 00:30:27.660 --> 00:30:28.660 Don't you cross me. 00:30:28.660 --> 00:30:29.060 All right. 00:30:29.060 --> 00:30:29.740 Nice. 00:30:29.740 --> 00:30:31.660 Right. 00:30:31.660 --> 00:30:33.100 I think that's our extras. 00:30:33.100 --> 00:30:34.780 It is. 00:30:34.780 --> 00:30:37.000 Chris Tyler, just real quick, has a recommendation. 00:30:37.000 --> 00:30:38.420 Switch to bottom. 00:30:38.760 --> 00:30:42.100 BTM, which is similar, but written in Rust and a little more performant. 00:30:42.100 --> 00:30:44.600 Also cross platform like BITOP. 00:30:44.600 --> 00:30:45.220 Hmm. 00:30:45.520 --> 00:30:45.840 Okay. 00:30:45.840 --> 00:30:49.220 Well, maybe, maybe that needs to be checked out as well. 00:30:49.220 --> 00:30:50.940 Maybe my time with BTOP was short. 00:30:50.940 --> 00:30:52.900 I'll be over to bottom before I know it. 00:30:52.900 --> 00:30:53.900 Top and bottom. 00:30:53.900 --> 00:30:54.960 That's just terrible. 00:30:54.960 --> 00:30:55.720 Yeah. 00:30:55.720 --> 00:30:56.260 These are funny. 00:30:56.260 --> 00:30:57.160 Yeah. 00:30:57.160 --> 00:30:57.800 Thanks, Christopher. 00:30:57.800 --> 00:30:58.200 All right. 00:30:58.540 --> 00:30:59.820 I think I'm ready for a joke. 00:30:59.820 --> 00:31:00.400 Yeah. 00:31:00.400 --> 00:31:05.660 I got something, you know, I've been talking about consolidating all these servers and running 00:31:05.660 --> 00:31:06.460 different things. 00:31:06.460 --> 00:31:10.100 We just talked about the monitoring your server and Docker. 00:31:10.100 --> 00:31:17.340 So I thought it might be fun to share this post on InfoSecExchange Mastodon from Jeff Hall. 00:31:17.340 --> 00:31:19.820 And it's got this, you described this for us, Brian. 00:31:19.820 --> 00:31:23.940 It's just a mess of cables coming out of the back of what? 00:31:23.940 --> 00:31:25.660 A bunch of, I don't know. 00:31:25.660 --> 00:31:26.760 Network equipment. 00:31:26.760 --> 00:31:27.220 Yeah. 00:31:27.820 --> 00:31:32.540 It's just like the world, you couldn't imagine a worse set of tangled wires. 00:31:32.540 --> 00:31:34.000 And they're dirty too, right? 00:31:34.000 --> 00:31:38.720 It's not just like, they're covered in all these routers and others. 00:31:38.720 --> 00:31:43.260 They're white, but they're most, they're significantly brown as well. 00:31:43.260 --> 00:31:45.920 With like a whole bunch of hubs hanging in between and stuff. 00:31:45.920 --> 00:31:46.320 Yeah. 00:31:46.320 --> 00:31:46.660 Yeah. 00:31:46.660 --> 00:31:51.000 And a lot of these pieces are just suspended by the wires and it just says the cloud. 00:31:51.000 --> 00:31:53.040 Yeah. 00:31:53.040 --> 00:31:54.520 Yeah. 00:31:54.520 --> 00:31:55.500 It's very nice. 00:31:55.500 --> 00:31:56.000 I love it. 00:31:56.000 --> 00:31:56.420 Yeah. 00:31:56.420 --> 00:31:57.300 That's very cool. 00:31:57.300 --> 00:31:57.820 So. 00:31:57.820 --> 00:31:58.220 Indeed. 00:31:58.220 --> 00:31:58.740 Funny. 00:31:58.740 --> 00:31:59.220 All right. 00:31:59.220 --> 00:32:01.180 Well, that's it for the show, I suppose. 00:32:01.180 --> 00:32:06.700 And, you know, we don't normally have a final call to action, but go check out your new Pi 00:32:06.700 --> 00:32:11.420 test thing, your timeout and check out some of these other self-hosted things. 00:32:11.420 --> 00:32:11.920 Yeah. 00:32:11.920 --> 00:32:11.960 Yeah. 00:32:11.960 --> 00:32:12.620 It's really cool. 00:32:12.620 --> 00:32:15.320 A lot of stuff people can adopt. 00:32:15.320 --> 00:32:16.060 And yeah. 00:32:16.060 --> 00:32:17.020 Thanks for being here. 00:32:17.020 --> 00:32:17.620 Thank you.