Full Transcript for The Most Powerful PT TED-Style Talks You’ll Hear This Year (CSM 2026 Preview)

what 00:03:10.743 --> 00:03:13.305 they learned from it and how they grew. 00:03:13.465 --> 00:03:16.106 And it was organic and real. 00:03:16.266 --> 00:03:17.046 And I thought, wow, 00:03:17.228 --> 00:03:18.168 I want to be a part of this 00:03:18.207 --> 00:03:18.487 group. 00:03:18.889 --> 00:03:19.808 These are my people. 00:03:20.429 --> 00:03:22.390 And I ended up joining the committee. 00:03:22.971 --> 00:03:25.072 And I'm the current chair of the LAMP 00:03:25.111 --> 00:03:26.393 Leadership Committee. 00:03:26.893 --> 00:03:27.973 I teach the curriculum. 00:03:28.771 --> 00:03:30.673 And for the last three years, 00:03:30.954 --> 00:03:32.835 I've actually gotten up there, 00:03:34.876 --> 00:03:36.837 butterflies in the stomach, 00:03:37.777 --> 00:03:38.838 full convention hall, 00:03:39.079 --> 00:03:41.381 and talked about some of the things I've 00:03:41.420 --> 00:03:42.181 learned as a leader. 00:03:42.401 --> 00:03:43.681 And like you said, 00:03:43.701 --> 00:03:44.582 these aren't the things you're going to 00:03:44.622 --> 00:03:45.843 learn in a course. 00:03:46.264 --> 00:03:48.765 There are things like making choices of 00:03:48.806 --> 00:03:51.366 how to figure out your work-life balance, 00:03:51.987 --> 00:03:53.449 how to be a lifelong learner, 00:03:53.829 --> 00:03:56.030 how to make sure that you have the 00:03:56.069 --> 00:03:56.811 capacity 00:03:57.608 --> 00:04:00.669 to support others and yourself as you go 00:04:00.688 --> 00:04:01.789 through this journey. 00:04:02.810 --> 00:04:05.450 The exciting thing this year is this we've 00:04:05.491 --> 00:04:07.051 had ten years. 00:04:07.151 --> 00:04:09.332 This is the tenth year of these TED 00:04:09.372 --> 00:04:10.073 style talks. 00:04:10.133 --> 00:04:12.854 And I can tell you every year we 00:04:12.873 --> 00:04:15.895 have a huge convention room and it's full 00:04:16.274 --> 00:04:18.076 and we usually go to an overflow room 00:04:18.115 --> 00:04:19.596 where they put us up on a screen. 00:04:20.437 --> 00:04:22.358 These are stories that people want to 00:04:22.478 --> 00:04:22.838 hear. 00:04:23.803 --> 00:04:25.444 We always have a long line of people 00:04:25.483 --> 00:04:26.805 to end asking questions, 00:04:26.865 --> 00:04:28.045 wanting to know more. 00:04:29.004 --> 00:04:31.966 It's just it's real life as we all 00:04:32.005 --> 00:04:32.286 live it. 00:04:32.305 --> 00:04:36.747 So is the hardest part picking which 00:04:36.766 --> 00:04:38.487 stories because you can't put a hundred 00:04:38.528 --> 00:04:40.327 stories on there is one of the hardest 00:04:40.367 --> 00:04:42.148 parts of that committee saying you're 00:04:42.168 --> 00:04:43.209 getting the nod this year. 00:04:43.249 --> 00:04:44.449 We're going to leave off to, you know, 00:04:44.468 --> 00:04:45.488 we're going to leave off some great. 00:04:45.569 --> 00:04:47.410 Yeah, it's tough picking it. 00:04:47.670 --> 00:04:48.230 And yeah. 00:04:48.714 --> 00:04:50.755 The exciting thing is we're in LAMP 00:04:50.776 --> 00:04:51.137 leadership, 00:04:51.156 --> 00:04:52.798 we're kicking off a new board 00:04:52.817 --> 00:04:55.619 certification and part of earning the 00:04:55.658 --> 00:04:57.740 certification is you have to put together 00:04:57.821 --> 00:05:00.242 one of these talks and we're naming them 00:05:00.322 --> 00:05:02.644 torch talks, you know, we're LAMP, get it? 00:05:04.745 --> 00:05:06.805 And so we're going to have a whole 00:05:06.966 --> 00:05:09.247 repository of these talks and we're going 00:05:09.267 --> 00:05:11.649 to be able to have more choice of 00:05:11.689 --> 00:05:13.029 who to put up there. 00:05:13.069 --> 00:05:15.291 We've had excellent people for ten years, 00:05:15.372 --> 00:05:16.612 but it's going to get a little harder 00:05:16.673 --> 00:05:16.833 now. 00:05:17.283 --> 00:05:19.365 And you've been recording all or most of 00:05:19.384 --> 00:05:19.886 these, right? 00:05:20.886 --> 00:05:24.367 They've been recorded at CSM on demand, 00:05:24.968 --> 00:05:27.269 but we have not been recording beyond 00:05:27.310 --> 00:05:27.509 that. 00:05:27.569 --> 00:05:29.851 We're going to start doing that through 00:05:29.872 --> 00:05:31.392 the recordings of the Torch Talks. 00:05:31.721 --> 00:05:32.762 These kids today, 00:05:32.841 --> 00:05:34.322 they don't know what a box set is, 00:05:34.343 --> 00:05:35.202 but I got to be honest, 00:05:35.244 --> 00:05:36.363 if you start recording, 00:05:36.423 --> 00:05:38.346 you could have a LAMP box set. 00:05:38.725 --> 00:05:40.007 I don't want to skip past this. 00:05:40.367 --> 00:05:42.148 My show touches a bunch of random people. 00:05:42.288 --> 00:05:44.209 I have no idea how you find me. 00:05:44.730 --> 00:05:45.271 Real quick, 00:05:45.350 --> 00:05:46.271 I don't want to make it a plug 00:05:46.290 --> 00:05:47.572 for LAMP, but plug LAMP. 00:05:47.951 --> 00:05:49.353 People might have heard of it or maybe 00:05:49.413 --> 00:05:49.713 never. 00:05:50.274 --> 00:05:52.336 What is LAMP? 00:05:53.216 --> 00:05:55.257 It's funny that we still call it CSM, 00:05:55.338 --> 00:05:56.678 Combined Section Meetings, 00:05:56.718 --> 00:05:58.519 because we are now all academies. 00:05:59.351 --> 00:06:01.434 And the Academy of Leadership and 00:06:01.473 --> 00:06:03.675 Innovation is our academy. 00:06:04.036 --> 00:06:05.937 You can be in academies that are all 00:06:05.976 --> 00:06:06.838 clinically driven. 00:06:07.358 --> 00:06:10.040 This is the academy for everything else. 00:06:10.880 --> 00:06:12.562 The Academy of Leadership and Innovation 00:06:12.762 --> 00:06:14.624 is where you go if you want to 00:06:14.644 --> 00:06:16.665 be part of the leadership committee or the 00:06:16.745 --> 00:06:17.245 management. 00:06:17.305 --> 00:06:19.088 LAMP is leadership and management 00:06:19.127 --> 00:06:19.848 together. 00:06:20.389 --> 00:06:21.810 It doesn't matter whether you have the 00:06:21.889 -->

00:06:23.310 title, the actual, 00:06:23.350 --> 00:06:25.132 we call it the big L title of 00:06:25.271 --> 00:06:26.632 director, manager, whatever, 00:06:26.774 --> 00:06:27.834 or if you are what we call the 00:06:27.874 --> 00:06:28.595 little L leader. 00:06:29.218 --> 00:06:32.600 Anyone in physical therapy, PTA, PT, 00:06:32.641 --> 00:06:33.822 you are a leader. 00:06:33.963 --> 00:06:35.684 You're asking patients to do some funny 00:06:35.723 --> 00:06:36.144 things. 00:06:36.524 --> 00:06:38.726 You're asking their families to do some 00:06:38.747 --> 00:06:39.228 funny things. 00:06:39.267 --> 00:06:40.108 You really are a leader. 00:06:40.509 --> 00:06:42.411 So we have curriculum for you. 00:06:43.050 --> 00:06:45.334 And then the other parts of the Academy 00:06:45.374 --> 00:06:46.875 of Leadership and Innovation are things 00:06:46.894 --> 00:06:50.699 like global health, PT Proud, 00:06:51.639 --> 00:06:53.781 the Technopalooza group is in there. 00:06:54.249 --> 00:06:56.951 So it's really all of those areas that 00:06:57.151 --> 00:06:59.935 aren't directly a specific clinical 00:06:59.975 --> 00:07:00.596 practice. 00:07:01.336 --> 00:07:02.177 So yeah, 00:07:02.377 --> 00:07:04.720 please go to our website and look at 00:07:04.779 --> 00:07:05.841 everything that's there. 00:07:06.682 --> 00:07:09.043 It's really a robust group of individuals 00:07:09.064 --> 00:07:11.005 that are very passionate about what we do. 00:07:11.026 --> 00:07:11.786 I got called, 00:07:11.826 --> 00:07:13.187 I got yelled at by someone. 00:07:13.206 --> 00:07:14.327 I won't say who, because I was like, 00:07:14.387 --> 00:07:16.550 it sounds like, and it's bad marketing, 00:07:16.569 --> 00:07:17.971 but it solves the answer, which is, 00:07:18.312 --> 00:07:20.233 it sounds like the junk drawer for PT. 00:07:20.673 --> 00:07:21.995 But the funny part about the junk drawer 00:07:22.035 --> 00:07:23.134 is that's where all the good stuff is. 00:07:23.194 --> 00:07:25.596 You can't, you need, you know, 00:07:25.617 --> 00:07:27.139 you've got the right tool. 00:07:27.298 --> 00:07:28.439 It's in that drawer. 00:07:28.860 --> 00:07:31.021 yeah junk drawer is not a great marketing 00:07:31.060 --> 00:07:32.322 term as a marketing guy would tell you 00:07:32.341 --> 00:07:34.262 don't use that but that's the vibe we'll 00:07:34.283 --> 00:07:35.624 figure out what it is all right so 00:07:35.684 --> 00:07:39.786 now we understand which academy uh this is 00:07:39.826 --> 00:07:41.887 gonna fall under for people who don't know 00:07:42.408 --> 00:07:44.250 uh i explain it it's one big circus 00:07:44.290 --> 00:07:46.050 with eighteen circuses underneath it 00:07:46.091 --> 00:07:47.692 you're one of the eighteen circuses who 00:07:47.711 --> 00:07:49.033 gets to play in this and i'm the 00:07:49.072 --> 00:07:49.473 ringleader 00:07:49.872 --> 00:07:50.793 You're the ringleader of that. 00:07:50.834 --> 00:07:52.735 You're the PT Barnum of the land. 00:07:52.754 --> 00:07:53.456 I like it. 00:07:53.596 --> 00:07:55.416 Circus in the circus of CSM, 00:07:55.677 --> 00:07:58.098 right down the street from Disney World, 00:07:58.119 --> 00:07:59.800 which is another circus with circuses in 00:07:59.961 --> 00:08:00.040 it. 00:08:00.081 --> 00:08:01.461 It's just all circuses all the way down. 00:08:01.482 --> 00:08:01.982 I love it. 00:08:02.002 --> 00:08:03.382 So I'm going to put you back in 00:08:03.423 --> 00:08:04.004 the green room. 00:08:04.064 --> 00:08:04.423 Thank you. 00:08:04.444 --> 00:08:06.084 We're going to bring you back at the 00:08:06.185 --> 00:08:06.425 end. 00:08:06.786 --> 00:08:08.127 But now it's time to, 00:08:08.547 --> 00:08:09.408 we're going to tease. 00:08:09.608 --> 00:08:11.069 We're going to give the movie trailer 00:08:11.108 --> 00:08:12.649 version of this. 00:08:12.670 --> 00:08:13.930 So Susan, we'll bring you right back. 00:08:13.951 --> 00:08:14.911 And let's bring in Lori. 00:08:14.971 --> 00:08:16.333 Lori, welcome to the podcast here. 00:08:17.540 --> 00:08:18.300 How are you doing? 00:08:18.341 --> 00:08:19.622 Thank you for having us. 00:08:19.983 --> 00:08:21.644 Let's get the nuts and bolts here. 00:08:21.685 --> 00:08:23.086 What's your superhero backstory? 00:08:23.125 --> 00:08:25.548 Just give me where in the profession you 00:08:25.588 --> 00:08:26.249 practice. 00:08:26.470 --> 00:08:27.930 Give us the back of the baseball card, 00:08:27.990 --> 00:08:28.591 the demographic. 00:08:29.483 --> 00:08:31.264 i need to be wearing my cape for 00:08:31.305 --> 00:08:34.508 that but my superhero backstory is that 00:08:34.528 --> 00:08:37.211 i'm not at all a superhero i started 00:08:37.311 --> 00:08:39.232 mpt many years ago i'm not going to 00:08:39.293 --> 00:08:43.496 divulge that but i actually was more 00:08:43.557 --> 00:08:45.278 interested in leadership i always saw 00:08:45.318 --> 00:08:47.321 patients but i was much more interested in 00:08:47.360 --> 00:08:49.102 building a team and leadership 00:08:49.783 --> 00:08:51.585 That's actually how I got involved with it 00:08:51.605 --> 00:08:54.207 was used to be HPA health policy and 00:08:54.227 --> 00:08:55.188 administration. 00:08:55.649 --> 00:08:56.269 And, you know, 00:08:56.450 --> 00:08:58.292 I belonged at the time to acute care 00:08:58.312 --> 00:09:00.274 and orthopedics and I was working in both 00:09:00.313 --> 00:09:00.734 things, 00:09:01.254 --> 00:09:03.216 but they didn't answer my questions. 00:09:03.616 --> 00:09:05.839 So this section at the time was, 00:09:06.539 --> 00:09:08.361 was more, you know, 00:09:08.402 --> 00:09:11.424 it gave me more than the other sections, 00:09:11.465 --> 00:09:13.807 the other that became academies that 00:09:14.389 --> 00:09:16.610 talked about the body or the facility you 00:09:16.650 --> 00:09:18.552 worked or the age of your patients. 00:09:18.572 --> 00:09:18.832 You know, 00:09:18.893 --> 00:09:20.495 I wanted to know how to

deal with 00:09:20.595 --> 00:09:22.697 issues that were day to day from a 00:09:22.798 --> 00:09:24.418 leadership standpoint, you know. 00:09:25.179 --> 00:09:27.480 performance improvement issues and 00:09:27.581 --> 00:09:29.422 employee engagement and all of that. 00:09:29.481 --> 00:09:31.442 And so that's how I found HPA and 00:09:31.482 --> 00:09:32.283 we've evolved. 00:09:32.783 --> 00:09:34.804 Then we became the catalyst, which is, 00:09:34.845 --> 00:09:36.625 by the way, one of my favorite words. 00:09:37.658 --> 00:09:39.679 I'm in a doctoral program right now, 00:09:39.740 --> 00:09:42.140 and they asked about my teaching metaphor, 00:09:42.181 --> 00:09:43.400 and I said catalyst. 00:09:43.441 --> 00:09:45.042 That was the first thing that came to 00:09:45.081 --> 00:09:45.481 my mind. 00:09:45.881 --> 00:09:46.942 So I really like that. 00:09:47.243 --> 00:09:49.123 So I love your analogy of junk drawer, 00:09:49.482 --> 00:09:51.504 but I spend most of my time telling 00:09:51.524 --> 00:09:53.044 my husband where things are, 00:09:53.144 --> 00:09:54.764 and one of the things I have to 00:09:54.804 --> 00:09:55.966 do is tell him where they are in 00:09:55.985 --> 00:09:56.586 the junk drawer. 00:09:57.066 --> 00:09:59.107 So I would prefer something like 00:09:59.707 --> 00:10:01.269 incubator, 00:10:01.369 --> 00:10:04.211 somewhere where we're incubating ideas and 00:10:04.251 --> 00:10:04.772 all of that. 00:10:04.812 --> 00:10:07.274 And we've done that in terms of many 00:10:07.313 --> 00:10:08.355 people come to us 00:10:09.522 --> 00:10:13.065 to grow themselves like PT Proud, 00:10:13.125 --> 00:10:17.168 like Beyond Clinical and all that. 00:10:17.187 --> 00:10:20.070 And then they go on to do amazing 00:10:20.129 --> 00:10:20.610 things. 00:10:21.431 --> 00:10:24.192 And then I actually got laid off and 00:10:24.293 --> 00:10:26.774 ended up going from place to place, 00:10:26.955 --> 00:10:27.955 all in leadership, 00:10:28.296 --> 00:10:30.517 totally outside the realm of PT. 00:10:30.918 --> 00:10:32.418 The last thing I did was I ran 00:10:32.458 --> 00:10:34.259 an accountable care organization. 00:10:35.304 --> 00:10:36.765 That was very interesting. 00:10:36.905 --> 00:10:38.967 And I don't know why more PTs aren't 00:10:39.008 --> 00:10:41.009 involved in running health care 00:10:41.049 --> 00:10:41.909 organizations. 00:10:43.110 --> 00:10:45.212 And I like the fact that you went 00:10:45.293 --> 00:10:47.875 outside to hopefully bring some of that 00:10:48.034 --> 00:10:51.017 information back inside. 00:10:51.057 --> 00:10:52.138 So that's a snapshot. 00:10:52.177 --> 00:10:53.899 We can't tell everybody's complete story. 00:10:54.976 --> 00:10:56.937 But that we understand sort of a little 00:10:56.957 --> 00:10:57.738 bit about who you are. 00:10:58.118 --> 00:10:59.278 Now, what are we getting to? 00:10:59.577 --> 00:11:01.158 What do you get to stand on stage? 00:11:01.198 --> 00:11:03.458 Give us sort of the movie trailer version 00:11:03.538 --> 00:11:03.958 or, you know, 00:11:04.220 --> 00:11:05.379 this is the time to tease. 00:11:05.460 --> 00:11:06.220 This is the teaser. 00:11:06.879 --> 00:11:08.441 Lori, what do you got for us? 00:11:08.480 --> 00:11:08.701 Well, 00:11:08.760 --> 00:11:11.501 I love listening to people's stories. 00:11:11.682 --> 00:11:12.601 And that's, I think, 00:11:12.621 --> 00:11:14.981 what I liked and why I continued having 00:11:15.022 --> 00:11:16.822 a little hand in patient care. 00:11:17.375 --> 00:11:19.975 is I love to hear people's stories. 00:11:20.436 --> 00:11:22.096 And one of the things I think is 00:11:22.317 --> 00:11:24.197 sometimes what I would hear is the 00:11:24.238 --> 00:11:26.339 subjective is what they tell you and the 00:11:26.399 --> 00:11:28.379 objective is what you find. 00:11:29.059 --> 00:11:30.760 I don't see it that way at all. 00:11:31.301 --> 00:11:34.302 I think that patients have very objective 00:11:34.361 --> 00:11:35.923 things to tell us about their lived 00:11:35.982 --> 00:11:36.984 experiences. 00:11:37.663 --> 00:11:39.764 And those things have changed my life. 00:11:40.544 --> 00:11:42.548 They've stuck with me, as you've said. 00:11:42.947 --> 00:11:45.029 So I'm sharing some stories, 00:11:45.870 --> 00:11:48.254 starting with stories of people that I 00:11:48.313 --> 00:11:49.936 interviewed for my MPH, 00:11:51.116 --> 00:11:53.480 particularly a Navajo woman and her 00:11:53.519 --> 00:11:55.361 feelings about her diabetes, 00:11:55.782 --> 00:11:57.583 and then the people I interviewed for my 00:11:57.624 --> 00:11:59.206 qualitative experience. 00:12:00.005 --> 00:12:01.486 interviewing that I did, 00:12:01.626 --> 00:12:04.908 and then just also relating it to how 00:12:04.947 --> 00:12:06.908 we tell stories as leaders. 00:12:08.049 --> 00:12:10.610 There's a lot of leadership conferences 00:12:10.691 --> 00:12:13.971 and trainings where we present leaders as 00:12:13.991 --> 00:12:16.893 that superhero when we know they're not 00:12:16.952 --> 00:12:19.934 superheroes at all and we want to know 00:12:20.774 --> 00:12:21.654 more about them. 00:12:21.715 --> 00:12:23.296 And what are we doing as leaders? 00:12:23.316 --> 00:12:25.437 What kind of story are we sharing? 00:12:26.342 --> 00:12:28.624 And I guess what I like about all 00:12:28.663 --> 00:12:33.184 of that is, you know, we're scientists, 00:12:33.205 --> 00:12:34.885 so we're very based on the facts. 00:12:35.546 --> 00:12:38.307 But facts and truth are oftentimes 00:12:38.407 --> 00:12:43.008 repurposed for the benefit of the people 00:12:43.048 --> 00:12:44.008 who hold the power. 00:12:44.087 --> 00:12:46.729 And so I like the stories of people 00:12:46.769 --> 00:12:48.528 that we have maybe not heard in the 00:12:48.568 --> 00:12:50.250 history books and things like that. 00:12:50.836 --> 00:12:52.535 and what we maybe haven't heard from 00:12:52.576 --> 00:12:54.576 leaders, kind of

their backstories. 00:12:55.076 --> 00:12:56.836 So it's a very brief, you know, 00:12:56.856 --> 00:12:57.278 it's brief. 00:12:57.317 --> 00:12:58.798 I'm going to try not to talk too 00:12:58.857 --> 00:12:59.217 long, 00:12:59.758 --> 00:13:01.278 but those are the things that I want 00:13:01.318 --> 00:13:03.778 to share my experiences and how they 00:13:03.818 --> 00:13:05.019 changed my life. 00:13:06.259 --> 00:13:06.700 Perfect. 00:13:06.980 --> 00:13:07.340 Excellent. 00:13:07.679 --> 00:13:09.640 Who's the right person to be in the 00:13:09.681 --> 00:13:10.760 room for your talk? 00:13:10.780 --> 00:13:11.921 I'm going to ask this to all six 00:13:11.941 --> 00:13:13.160 guests that I talked to today. 00:13:13.201 --> 00:13:13.922 Who's the right, who were, 00:13:14.162 --> 00:13:15.741 who were you hoping was in the audience? 00:13:16.903 --> 00:13:19.988 That actually not just people who are the 00:13:20.008 --> 00:13:21.048 big L leaders, 00:13:21.129 --> 00:13:24.914 but the I actually think anybody because I 00:13:24.955 --> 00:13:27.879 think the way we interact with patients, 00:13:27.938 --> 00:13:29.782 if you're a therapist who has a small 00:13:29.822 --> 00:13:32.326 practice or you're on staff in some place. 00:13:32.586 --> 00:13:34.447 healthcare organization, 00:13:35.386 --> 00:13:38.048 I think that you have the opportunity to 00:13:38.187 --> 00:13:41.210 really listen to lived experiences and 00:13:41.909 --> 00:13:43.770 guide your practice that way. 00:13:43.890 --> 00:13:45.831 So I wouldn't say there's anyone, 00:13:45.912 --> 00:13:47.552 I hope there's no one that this wouldn't 00:13:47.572 --> 00:13:48.712 be useful for. 00:13:50.293 --> 00:13:53.195 But I do think it may be interesting 00:13:53.235 --> 00:13:54.075 to leaders, 00:13:54.115 --> 00:13:55.995 people who have been out for a while, 00:13:56.056 --> 00:13:57.777 who maybe have listened to a 00:14:01.419 --> 00:14:03.389 Hopefully there will be leaders in the 00:14:03.429 --> 00:14:04.215 room for that. 00:14:05.256 --> 00:14:07.057 Um, but I think anyone, 00:14:07.217 --> 00:14:09.859 I really think anyone would be interested. 00:14:09.938 --> 00:14:11.340 I would hope they'd be interested. 00:14:11.919 --> 00:14:13.240 The last thing I'm going to say is 00:14:13.360 --> 00:14:14.400 we have, 00:14:14.581 --> 00:14:16.822 we spend a lot of time with patients. 00:14:16.842 --> 00:14:17.023 I mean, 00:14:17.182 --> 00:14:18.903 we all know what it's like to be 00:14:19.524 --> 00:14:22.544 a primary care physician and you just get 00:14:22.585 --> 00:14:23.625 like five seconds. 00:14:24.086 --> 00:14:26.067 We still spend a lot of time with 00:14:26.106 --> 00:14:26.527 people. 00:14:26.986 --> 00:14:30.369 And so we really have a moment to 00:14:30.548 --> 00:14:33.190 hear what's really going on in their lives 00:14:33.230 --> 00:14:34.311 and it can affect. 00:14:34.946 --> 00:14:35.666 how we, 00:14:35.765 --> 00:14:37.927 it affected me when

I heard the stories, 00:14:37.986 --> 00:14:40.126 how I decided to guide my practice. 00:14:41.207 --> 00:14:41.508 Perfect. 00:14:41.528 --> 00:14:41.727 All right. 00:14:41.748 --> 00:14:42.528 I'm going to put you back in the 00:14:42.567 --> 00:14:43.567 green room and I'm going to bring in 00:14:43.628 --> 00:14:45.969 our next guest, the next, uh, Ted style, 00:14:46.688 --> 00:14:48.269 uh, speaker, Jennifer Green Wilson, 00:14:48.288 --> 00:14:49.730 Jennifer, uh, welcome. 00:14:49.750 --> 00:14:50.370 Congrats. 00:14:50.450 --> 00:14:51.169 Can't wait. 00:14:51.190 --> 00:14:52.910 Uh, just for context for everybody, 00:14:53.311 --> 00:14:54.910 what's your superhero backstory sort of 00:14:54.951 --> 00:14:55.750 paint a picture for us. 00:14:56.250 --> 00:14:56.812 Okay. 00:14:56.912 --> 00:14:59.652 So I actually am a Canadian trained 00:14:59.672 --> 00:15:00.653 physiotherapist, 00:15:00.692 --> 00:15:01.852 but I've practiced my 00:15:02.457 --> 00:15:04.337 whole professional life in the United 00:15:04.378 --> 00:15:04.859 States. 00:15:04.879 --> 00:15:07.619 And, uh, my, uh, 00:15:08.019 --> 00:15:10.720 probably biggest thing I would say that 00:15:10.779 --> 00:15:13.600 I'm really proud of is I'm a 00:15:13.760 --> 00:15:17.241 transformational leader and I had the 00:15:17.361 --> 00:15:20.923 opportunity, the pleasure to actually, uh, 00:15:20.962 --> 00:15:23.202 develop our initial, uh, 00:15:23.383 --> 00:15:26.423 lamp leadership curriculum way back when. 00:15:27.304 --> 00:15:29.804 And so I'm just so thrilled to be 00:15:29.924 --> 00:15:32.686 back actively involved with this team of 00:15:33.025 --> 00:15:33.745 superheroes. 00:15:34.505 --> 00:15:36.106 So, uh, 00:15:36.126 --> 00:15:37.447 I don't want to skip past a term 00:15:37.486 --> 00:15:38.746 cause you brought something up that I've 00:15:38.787 --> 00:15:39.466 heard before, 00:15:39.586 --> 00:15:40.567 but I don't know if I'd be able 00:15:40.606 --> 00:15:41.287 to define it. 00:15:41.746 --> 00:15:42.467 I don't need, you know, 00:15:42.508 --> 00:15:43.488 the Webster's dictionary. 00:15:44.168 --> 00:15:46.408 How would you describe a transformational 00:15:46.467 --> 00:15:46.707 leader? 00:15:46.847 --> 00:15:47.989 What does that mean? 00:15:48.048 --> 00:15:50.149 Why was that different than a leader? 00:15:50.208 --> 00:15:53.349 So a transformational leader is someone 00:15:53.408 --> 00:15:56.470 who is absolutely passionate about 00:15:57.081 --> 00:16:01.225 change and innovation and how you can 00:16:01.264 --> 00:16:04.267 transform is it's all hands on deck. 00:16:04.966 --> 00:16:06.408 And so the leader, 00:16:06.467 --> 00:16:09.289 the person who's inspiring the masses 00:16:10.289 --> 00:16:13.412 facilitates the process in such a way that 00:16:13.852 --> 00:16:16.514 people who are also leading the followers 00:16:17.254 --> 00:16:18.775 are growing and developing, 00:16:19.096 --> 00:16:22.097 developing at the same time that the 00:16:22.158 --> 00:16:23.958 person who's facilitating and leading. 00:16:24.383 --> 00:16:26.903 So everybody is growing and everybody is 00:16:26.964 --> 00:16:29.044 changing and change happens. 00:16:29.125 --> 00:16:31.004 It's really exciting to see. 00:16:32.025 --> 00:16:34.546 They sound like a fun person to work 00:16:34.625 --> 00:16:36.547 with or for or around. 00:16:37.027 --> 00:16:37.767 That sounds like, I mean, 00:16:38.106 --> 00:16:38.967 I'm listening to this going, 00:16:39.447 --> 00:16:40.447 show me one of those. 00:16:41.288 --> 00:16:41.769 I'll work with you. 00:16:41.788 --> 00:16:43.668 Like that sounds like a thing to do. 00:16:44.309 --> 00:16:44.649 Yeah. 00:16:44.669 --> 00:16:45.129 So Jimmy, 00:16:45.149 --> 00:16:47.250 I'll tell you a small story that I 00:16:47.289 --> 00:16:48.510 had the chance to 00:16:49.421 --> 00:16:51.962 experience, transformational leadership. 00:16:52.062 --> 00:16:53.345 And I actually learned about 00:16:53.404 --> 00:16:55.846 transformational leadership from physical 00:16:55.886 --> 00:16:56.866 therapy students. 00:16:57.587 --> 00:17:01.191 And when I changed how I facilitated their 00:17:01.230 --> 00:17:02.251 learning experience, 00:17:02.672 --> 00:17:06.275 they became more fully engaged and most 00:17:06.315 --> 00:17:06.796 dreaded. 00:17:06.816 --> 00:17:08.616 So I taught the business of physical 00:17:08.636 --> 00:17:09.397 therapy class. 00:17:09.897 --> 00:17:13.340 So the most dreaded class became their 00:17:13.461 --> 00:17:15.383 most exciting class. 00:17:15.682 --> 00:17:16.384 How'd you do that? 00:17:16.993 --> 00:17:17.413 Well, 00:17:17.493 --> 00:17:20.476 that is another talk that we can have. 00:17:20.496 --> 00:17:22.657 I always even want more. 00:17:22.678 --> 00:17:24.838 We call that a front tease in radio. 00:17:25.439 --> 00:17:26.660 I'll give you a little kudos being 00:17:26.700 --> 00:17:27.740 involved with LAMP. 00:17:27.800 --> 00:17:29.981 I've been in this profession for ten years 00:17:30.001 --> 00:17:30.803 since I graduated, 00:17:30.843 --> 00:17:32.044 obviously three years before that. 00:17:32.644 --> 00:17:35.185 I don't think I've ever heard anybody not 00:17:35.266 --> 00:17:36.547 speak highly of LAMP. 00:17:37.207 --> 00:17:39.087 Every time it gets brought up in a 00:17:39.147 --> 00:17:42.049 happy hour or on a stage, 00:17:42.069 --> 00:17:43.371 people are always selling LAMP, 00:17:43.530 --> 00:17:46.513 and they're not even – 00:17:45.509 --> 00:17:46.609 not leader they're not selling it they're 00:17:46.650 --> 00:17:48.550 like i went through this you should do 00:17:48.570 --> 00:17:50.151 this like they're really just telling 00:17:50.171 --> 00:17:51.551 people to come along with them so kudos 00:17:51.571 --> 00:17:54.112 yeah and so i think it's really important 00:17:54.132 --> 00:17:57.173 to honor our past honor our present and 00:17:57.252 --> 00:18:00.074 honor our future because we've had

so many 00:18:00.114 --> 00:18:03.414 people over so many years decades that 00:18:03.454 --> 00:18:05.474 have contributed to this space in this 00:18:05.494 --> 00:18:08.415 conversation and so i think you know we've 00:18:08.435 --> 00:18:10.297 been able to make some of these things 00:18:10.356 --> 00:18:11.277 come alive 00:18:11.965 --> 00:18:14.166 and really powerful because of the 00:18:14.186 --> 00:18:15.428 foundation that we've had. 00:18:15.488 --> 00:18:16.929 And so, you know, I just, 00:18:17.068 --> 00:18:19.029 I think we need to acknowledge everybody 00:18:19.130 --> 00:18:21.852 who's being part of this and now Academy. 00:18:21.951 --> 00:18:23.792 All right. 00:18:23.833 --> 00:18:25.253 So give us a little front tease. 00:18:25.334 --> 00:18:25.794 What are we taught? 00:18:25.814 --> 00:18:26.954 What do you get to talk about this 00:18:26.994 --> 00:18:28.756 year at CSM when we go to the 00:18:29.056 --> 00:18:29.556 left coast? 00:18:30.215 --> 00:18:32.518 So, um, I'm going to talk about, 00:18:32.657 --> 00:18:36.299 it's all about passion and, 00:18:36.584 --> 00:18:39.105 That's what leadership is to me at this 00:18:39.144 --> 00:18:39.444 point. 00:18:39.505 --> 00:18:42.046 And I also want to thank the team 00:18:42.185 --> 00:18:43.886 that this is going to be my first 00:18:44.086 --> 00:18:46.607 TED style talk that I've given, 00:18:46.728 --> 00:18:48.407 although I've been involved in LAMP 00:18:48.428 --> 00:18:50.348 leadership for almost two decades. 00:18:50.368 --> 00:18:51.469 So I'm really, really, 00:18:51.528 --> 00:18:54.029 really thrilled to be part of the team. 00:18:54.509 --> 00:18:56.171 And so I have a few things, 00:18:56.230 --> 00:18:58.031 maybe three things that I'd like to share. 00:18:58.192 --> 00:19:01.232 So we all have those tap on the 00:19:01.272 --> 00:19:04.453 shoulder moments when doors and windows 00:19:04.614 --> 00:19:04.894 open. 00:19:05.645 --> 00:19:07.626 And we don't know why they're there. 00:19:08.188 --> 00:19:09.848 And we don't know why we're really being 00:19:09.909 --> 00:19:10.950 tapped on the shoulder. 00:19:11.369 --> 00:19:13.211 But if we pay attention and listen to 00:19:13.250 --> 00:19:16.534 those and go through the doors or climb 00:19:16.554 --> 00:19:17.473 through the windows, 00:19:17.933 --> 00:19:20.375 our journeys and our paths can take us 00:19:20.997 --> 00:19:22.037 in ways, 00:19:22.136 --> 00:19:24.659 in directions that we never thought that 00:19:24.739 --> 00:19:25.940 we could or should. 00:19:26.740 --> 00:19:29.041 And so part of that experience, 00:19:29.102 --> 00:19:31.144 especially with discovering sort of this 00:19:31.243 --> 00:19:33.224 personal leadership, self-leadership, 00:19:33.803 --> 00:19:35.844 So it really, the messages, 00:19:36.164 --> 00:19:39.606 all of us in physical therapy can display 00:19:39.767 --> 00:19:43.028 our leadership and we can lead wherever we 00:19:43.088 --> 00:19:45.130 are at any moment in time. 00:19:45.190 --> 00:19:45.971 And we need that. 00:19:46.030 --> 00:19:48.571 There's such a call for that in healthcare 00:19:48.592 --> 00:19:49.252 at this point. 00:19:49.732 --> 00:19:52.214 And what I discovered was having the 00:19:52.335 --> 00:19:55.616 opportunity to reframe leadership as 00:19:55.717 --> 00:19:57.938 personal leadership, self-leadership, 00:19:58.018 --> 00:19:59.799 meaning all of us can do that, 00:19:59.940 --> 00:20:00.460 be that. 00:20:01.680 --> 00:20:03.181 That's where I found my passion. 00:20:03.281 --> 00:20:06.023 And so I've spent, as I mentioned, 00:20:06.104 --> 00:20:08.404 almost two decades pounding the pavement, 00:20:08.806 --> 00:20:11.067 trying to really build the passion in 00:20:11.247 --> 00:20:15.009 others for this idea and this concept. 00:20:15.510 --> 00:20:17.652 And change requires leadership. 00:20:17.672 --> 00:20:19.173 So going back to transformational 00:20:19.192 --> 00:20:19.693 leadership, 00:20:20.554 --> 00:20:22.855 if we spark leadership at all levels, 00:20:23.276 --> 00:20:26.618 then we can be more influential in 00:20:26.659 --> 00:20:28.039 facilitating that change. 00:20:28.722 --> 00:20:29.742 And so passion, 00:20:29.923 --> 00:20:31.923 the last thing I will say is passion 00:20:32.443 --> 00:20:35.224 is an emotion and emotional intelligence 00:20:35.265 --> 00:20:37.005 is a big part of leadership. 00:20:37.444 --> 00:20:39.586 And so it was so great to be 00:20:39.746 --> 00:20:42.266 able to really hone in on our passion 00:20:42.726 --> 00:20:44.007 and our emotions. 00:20:44.386 --> 00:20:48.428 And that's the fuel that inspires us to 00:20:48.508 --> 00:20:49.347 lead that change. 00:20:50.711 --> 00:20:52.372 Drop the mic, walk off stage, right? 00:20:53.012 --> 00:20:54.794 I'll give you the last thing I'm asking 00:20:54.814 --> 00:20:55.173 each guest. 00:20:56.174 --> 00:20:57.496 Who are the types of people that you 00:20:57.536 --> 00:20:58.717 hope are in the audience? 00:20:58.836 --> 00:21:00.798 And it could be a demographic answer, 00:21:00.818 --> 00:21:01.419 a psychographic. 00:21:02.078 --> 00:21:03.220 Who are you hoping, right? 00:21:03.240 --> 00:21:04.280 Because a lot of these talks, 00:21:04.340 --> 00:21:06.242 I always say, get your flowers, 00:21:06.282 --> 00:21:07.063 get on stage. 00:21:08.064 --> 00:21:10.506 You'll stand there above your colleagues 00:21:10.546 --> 00:21:11.646 for your fifteen minutes of fame. 00:21:12.326 --> 00:21:14.288 I don't know anybody who does that without 00:21:14.328 --> 00:21:14.729 thinking, 00:21:15.148 --> 00:21:17.010 I hope someone steals these ideas or these 00:21:17.090 --> 00:21:18.291 motions and goes and does things. 00:21:18.551 --> 00:21:20.493 Who do you hope is in the audience 00:21:20.513 --> 00:21:21.375 while you're talking? 00:21:22.035 --> 00:21:24.696 Absolutely everyone, 00:21:24.897 --> 00:21:27.180 and that includes our students. 00:21:27.259 --> 00:21:30.662 I

know we have thousands of students that 00:21:30.722 --> 00:21:31.884 come to CSM, 00:21:32.364 --> 00:21:34.685 and we absolutely want to make sure that 00:21:34.746 --> 00:21:38.648 students feel welcome and they're included 00:21:38.909 --> 00:21:40.671 because they're just beginning. 00:21:41.222 --> 00:21:42.462 their leadership journeys, 00:21:42.563 --> 00:21:45.605 and we absolutely need them in order to 00:21:45.664 --> 00:21:49.326 push our profession even further. 00:21:49.465 --> 00:21:49.865 Excellent. 00:21:49.925 --> 00:21:50.586 All right, Jennifer, 00:21:50.625 --> 00:21:51.527 go back to the green room. 00:21:51.547 --> 00:21:52.606 We'll talk to you in just a little 00:21:52.626 --> 00:21:52.807 bit. 00:21:52.826 --> 00:21:54.407 We bring on no stranger to the show 00:21:54.468 --> 00:21:54.788 back. 00:21:55.248 --> 00:21:55.667 I don't know, 00:21:55.708 --> 00:21:57.167 half a dozen times on the program. 00:21:57.588 --> 00:21:58.249 Sean Bagney. 00:21:58.269 --> 00:21:59.028 Sean, welcome back, man. 00:21:59.048 --> 00:22:00.430 Thank you. 00:22:00.529 --> 00:22:01.390 Are you talking to me yet? 00:22:02.050 --> 00:22:02.230 No, 00:22:02.651 --> 00:22:03.692 because you always have something good to 00:22:03.731 --> 00:22:03.912 say. 00:22:04.092 --> 00:22:05.912 But I'm going to ask you just reframe 00:22:05.932 --> 00:22:08.272 for the audience what you get to do 00:22:08.333 --> 00:22:09.732 in this pretty cool profession of ours, 00:22:09.792 --> 00:22:10.814 just like your superhero. 00:22:11.854 --> 00:22:13.594 Yeah, there is no superhero. 00:22:13.634 --> 00:22:15.055 But what I get to do is I 00:22:15.075 --> 00:22:17.336 get to help found a company called 00:22:17.375 --> 00:22:18.756 Rehabilitation Performance Institute. 00:22:19.215 --> 00:22:21.596 We have fifteen outpatient physical 00:22:21.616 --> 00:22:23.877 therapy clinics now in the Midwest, 00:22:23.978 --> 00:22:25.298 Indiana, Kentucky and Illinois. 00:22:26.518 --> 00:22:28.398 And we're founded on the fact that health 00:22:28.419 --> 00:22:31.500 care sucks and physical therapy can be the 00:22:31.539 --> 00:22:31.839 change. 00:22:32.693 --> 00:22:34.654 And so that's been my journey. 00:22:34.695 --> 00:22:36.896 And my journey has been don't accept 00:22:37.518 --> 00:22:39.699 status quo and don't accept what other 00:22:39.719 --> 00:22:42.020 people tell you and find your way. 00:22:42.040 --> 00:22:43.642 And that's what I want to talk about 00:22:43.801 --> 00:22:44.622 during my TED talk. 00:22:45.143 --> 00:22:45.663 Is that your talk? 00:22:45.682 --> 00:22:46.703 I mean, you've been physically, you know, 00:22:46.844 --> 00:22:48.204 healthcare sucks and we can fix it. 00:22:48.464 --> 00:22:49.905 Hopefully it's healthcare sucks and this 00:22:49.945 --> 00:22:51.086 is what we can do about it, right? 00:22:51.126 --> 00:22:51.788 What are we looking at? 00:22:51.807 --> 00:22:52.867 Yeah, well, 00:22:53.008 --> 00:22:54.308 it's actually more about the personal 00:22:54.568 --> 00:22:55.970 aspect of what my journey has been. 00:22:57.191 --> 00:23:01.153 Like how I've had to evolve from being 00:23:01.394 --> 00:23:01.413 a... 00:23:03.633 --> 00:23:05.895 someone that enjoyed just taking on every 00:23:05.996 --> 00:23:08.417 aspect of patient care and excited at that 00:23:08.878 --> 00:23:10.760 to really like how we make change on 00:23:11.461 --> 00:23:14.944 a grander stage by no longer doing that 00:23:15.065 --> 00:23:15.486 one-on-one, 00:23:15.546 --> 00:23:18.087 but multiplication and coaching and how 00:23:18.107 --> 00:23:20.109 much harder of a journey that is, 00:23:20.550 --> 00:23:23.213 but how much more rewarding it is when 00:23:23.554 --> 00:23:25.415 we're able to multiply our effect. 00:23:25.756 --> 00:23:26.096 Love that. 00:23:26.613 --> 00:23:27.772 Uh, who, 00:23:28.053 --> 00:23:30.173 since you went so quick through these two 00:23:30.213 --> 00:23:30.534 questions, 00:23:30.554 --> 00:23:31.375 I want to give you a little extra 00:23:31.434 --> 00:23:31.934 time, right? 00:23:32.755 --> 00:23:34.796 Who do you hope the audience and what 00:23:34.836 --> 00:23:35.955 do you hope they do? 00:23:36.296 --> 00:23:36.836 Like what would, 00:23:37.155 --> 00:23:38.136 let me ask you this different way. 00:23:38.317 --> 00:23:39.277 Who do you hope is in the audience 00:23:39.557 --> 00:23:42.038 and what would success look like to you 00:23:42.738 --> 00:23:43.538 a year, three, 00:23:43.637 --> 00:23:46.398 five from now hearing back from those 00:23:46.459 --> 00:23:49.160 people who are in the audience? 00:23:49.240 --> 00:23:49.559 Yeah. 00:23:49.660 --> 00:23:51.441 So who I want in the audience are 00:23:51.480 --> 00:23:54.041 PTAs and VTAs that are passionate about 00:23:54.182 --> 00:23:54.481 like 00:23:55.415 --> 00:23:57.096 making a change in what we do as 00:23:57.116 --> 00:23:57.617 a profession, 00:23:58.357 --> 00:24:00.700 but might not be comfortable in taking on 00:24:00.740 --> 00:24:01.980 that responsibility themselves. 00:24:03.761 --> 00:24:05.962 As we start doing that, 00:24:06.564 --> 00:24:08.384 that's how we become better. 00:24:08.885 --> 00:24:12.288 We have such a connection with our 00:24:12.307 --> 00:24:14.769 patients and our ability to make them 00:24:14.829 --> 00:24:15.190 better. 00:24:16.050 --> 00:24:18.132 And we do a really crappy job of 00:24:18.152 --> 00:24:20.913 taking the accolades for that. 00:24:22.674 --> 00:24:23.875 I want people to understand, like, 00:24:24.416 --> 00:24:26.077 We can change lives. 00:24:26.518 --> 00:24:29.359 We can be the musculoskeletal experts in 00:24:29.380 --> 00:24:31.060 the communities and we can take on that 00:24:31.101 --> 00:24:33.981 responsibility, but it's a responsibility. 00:24:34.383 --> 00:24:35.222 So we have to do that. 00:24:35.262 --> 00:24:36.443 And part of that is being true to 00:24:36.483 --> 00:24:37.084 ourselves and, 00:24:37.804 -->

00:24:39.565 and making sure that we are expanding 00:24:39.585 --> 00:24:39.846 that. 00:24:39.925 --> 00:24:42.467 And so the more PTs and PTAs that 00:24:42.487 --> 00:24:44.347 are willing to take on that risk of 00:24:44.407 --> 00:24:47.589 like being audacious in their career. 00:24:47.630 --> 00:24:48.630 And it doesn't mean you have to be 00:24:48.650 --> 00:24:48.951 an owner. 00:24:49.490 --> 00:24:51.031 It means you're willing to own your 00:24:51.071 --> 00:24:53.272 career, people that will take that on. 00:24:53.832 --> 00:24:55.452 Success for me is seeing more of those 00:24:55.913 --> 00:24:56.673 three to five years, 00:24:56.713 --> 00:24:58.775 people who are willing to fight insurance 00:24:58.835 --> 00:24:59.255 companies, 00:24:59.695 --> 00:25:02.116 people who are willing to not accept that 00:25:02.176 --> 00:25:04.259 I need to see seventy four patients in 00:25:04.318 --> 00:25:06.460 a day because, you know, 00:25:06.599 --> 00:25:07.800 we need to do two hundred percent 00:25:07.840 --> 00:25:08.381 productivity. 00:25:08.401 --> 00:25:09.821 Sure. 00:25:09.862 --> 00:25:12.844 But caring for what you do and doing 00:25:13.503 --> 00:25:14.484 what you're passionate about. 00:25:15.151 --> 00:25:16.612 were really close because you know this 00:25:16.711 --> 00:25:18.632 csm is going to be next to disneyland 00:25:18.912 --> 00:25:21.633 in california and you said with great 00:25:21.673 --> 00:25:23.374 responsibility and i was ready for like 00:25:23.574 --> 00:25:24.994 you drop a spider-man line right with 00:25:25.035 --> 00:25:26.055 great power comes with great 00:25:26.174 --> 00:25:28.195 responsibility and i was waiting for that 00:25:28.236 --> 00:25:30.656 to come up you know um that's a 00:25:30.696 --> 00:25:33.117 great great thing and i will drop this 00:25:33.178 --> 00:25:35.238 one little thing there will be a quote 00:25:36.118 --> 00:25:39.819 in mine from uh when i think the 00:25:39.839 --> 00:25:42.060 best writers all time lynn manuel 00:25:42.864 --> 00:25:43.243 Miranda. 00:25:43.463 --> 00:25:44.944 And so you'll just have to hear that. 00:25:44.964 --> 00:25:46.086 All right. 00:25:46.326 --> 00:25:47.846 All right. 00:25:47.886 --> 00:25:48.467 Back to the green room. 00:25:48.487 --> 00:25:49.807 We'll bring you back for your parting shot 00:25:49.827 --> 00:25:50.588 in just a little bit. 00:25:51.509 --> 00:25:51.990 John Corcoran. 00:25:52.029 --> 00:25:53.609 John, welcome to the podcast. 00:25:54.290 --> 00:25:55.432 Thanks, Jimmy. 00:25:55.471 --> 00:25:56.291 Let's set the stage. 00:25:56.791 --> 00:25:57.932 How do you describe if someone were to 00:25:57.972 --> 00:25:58.553 say, hey, you know, 00:25:58.973 --> 00:26:00.173 where where are you from? 00:26:00.253 --> 00:26:01.755 Not geographically necessarily, 00:26:01.795 --> 00:26:02.875 but from this profession. 00:26:03.256 --> 00:26:04.156 What's your what's your back of the 00:26:04.176 --> 00:26:05.076 baseball card look like? 00:26:05.478 --> 00:26:06.897 Yeah, I started. 00:26:06.917 --> 00:26:07.798 Excuse me. 00:26:07.858 --> 00:26:10.340 I started as a musician before I became 00:26:10.381 --> 00:26:10.681 a P.T., 00:26:11.618 --> 00:26:14.821 you play i played drums mostly and i 00:26:15.301 --> 00:26:17.403 uh when i was on stage as drums 00:26:17.423 --> 00:26:19.625 but i wrote songs guitar and i still 00:26:19.665 --> 00:26:21.867 do it as a hobby heck yeah i 00:26:21.887 --> 00:26:23.328 just couldn't make it as a living but 00:26:23.568 --> 00:26:25.810 it was such a great um time in 00:26:25.830 --> 00:26:27.492 my life so i still do it as 00:26:27.512 --> 00:26:32.017 a hobby excellent my plan b uh pt 00:26:32.076 --> 00:26:33.718 and and you know it turned out to 00:26:33.758 --> 00:26:36.519 be an amazing plan b i'm now gone 00:26:36.539 --> 00:26:38.281 through every profession 00:26:39.729 --> 00:26:40.950 every job in PT, 00:26:40.970 --> 00:26:43.211 and now I'm the director of rehab at 00:26:43.352 --> 00:26:44.913 NYU Rusk Rehabilitation. 00:26:45.614 --> 00:26:47.234 So it's been a long journey from a 00:26:47.775 --> 00:26:50.916 homeless musician to now the director of a 00:26:50.936 --> 00:26:52.739 large academic program, 00:26:52.759 --> 00:26:56.821 which was really a fun journey. 00:26:56.842 --> 00:26:58.021 And I think in a lot of the 00:26:58.041 --> 00:26:59.804 TED Talks, I talked about that. 00:27:00.023 --> 00:27:01.944 I've done them literally ten years. 00:27:01.984 --> 00:27:03.125 I know it's a ten-year mark. 00:27:03.961 --> 00:27:05.082 And I've done it ten times, 00:27:05.122 --> 00:27:06.482 and one of the talks I gave was, 00:27:06.502 --> 00:27:07.303 you know, 00:27:07.343 --> 00:27:09.623 some of the things as a musician that 00:27:09.682 --> 00:27:10.864 I see in PT. 00:27:10.884 --> 00:27:11.344 You know, 00:27:11.364 --> 00:27:12.663 you wouldn't think there's a lot of 00:27:13.703 --> 00:27:14.403 overlap there, 00:27:14.423 --> 00:27:17.565 but definitely some things I learned from 00:27:18.164 --> 00:27:21.425 different careers that do carry over. 00:27:22.046 --> 00:27:22.425 Yeah. 00:27:22.486 --> 00:27:23.865 Oh, you're just down the Hudson from me, 00:27:24.086 --> 00:27:25.646 and I'm up near West Point. 00:27:26.811 --> 00:27:29.034 So what's a lesson, what's a, 00:27:29.554 --> 00:27:32.676 an approach because you are a musician, 00:27:32.737 --> 00:27:34.557 whether you're doing that for a living, 00:27:34.597 --> 00:27:35.959 you can't, you know, 00:27:35.979 --> 00:27:37.760 you can take the guy out of the 00:27:37.780 --> 00:27:39.001 club or off the stage, 00:27:39.041 --> 00:27:41.103 but you can't change that mentality. 00:27:41.804 --> 00:27:42.765 So what are, 00:27:42.785 --> 00:27:44.605 what is a lesson or a skillset or 00:27:44.705 --> 00:27:46.267 a lens that you look at the world, 00:27:46.307 --> 00:27:48.128 no matter where you are from that 00:27:48.148 --> 00:27:48.608

background? 00:27:48.628 --> 00:27:50.351 You know, I, 00:27:50.431 --> 00:27:51.711 a lot of it to me, you know, 00:27:51.731 --> 00:27:53.353 everyone talks about active listening. 00:27:54.118 --> 00:27:55.920 And I think one of the reasons I've 00:27:56.180 --> 00:27:59.461 been successful in leadership is literally 00:27:59.641 --> 00:28:01.821 learning and knowing before I got into the 00:28:01.842 --> 00:28:03.541 profession how to listen. 00:28:04.001 --> 00:28:06.042 Not just the music, but, you know, 00:28:06.083 --> 00:28:08.243 listen to different parts of instruments, 00:28:08.344 --> 00:28:09.804 different arrangements. 00:28:10.345 --> 00:28:11.865 And I think, you know, 00:28:11.884 --> 00:28:12.925 when you connect with a patient, 00:28:12.945 --> 00:28:14.185 they could tell if you're listening. 00:28:15.071 --> 00:28:16.333 when you connect with your colleagues they 00:28:16.353 --> 00:28:17.854 can tell if you're really listening or 00:28:17.874 --> 00:28:20.055 you're off somewhere else and having that 00:28:20.115 --> 00:28:22.636 focus to really i think too to get 00:28:22.856 --> 00:28:25.038 really professional and an expert in an 00:28:25.159 --> 00:28:26.579 instrument you really got to learn to 00:28:26.640 --> 00:28:28.520 focus and a lot of people have trouble 00:28:28.540 --> 00:28:30.622 with that i i don't that's one i 00:28:30.642 --> 00:28:32.463 mean i have other other challenges like we 00:28:32.503 --> 00:28:34.224 all do but i can focus i can 00:28:34.305 --> 00:28:37.586 listen and patients and staff and my own 00:28:37.626 --> 00:28:40.128 staff i really feel they appreciate that 00:28:40.768 --> 00:28:41.008 Yeah. 00:28:41.028 --> 00:28:43.249 Why are these soft skills so damn hard? 00:28:43.348 --> 00:28:44.269 It's because they're skills. 00:28:44.369 --> 00:28:46.371 And if you don't work on them, 00:28:47.310 --> 00:28:48.811 they atrophy or you don't develop them 00:28:48.872 --> 00:28:49.071 ever. 00:28:49.112 --> 00:28:52.413 And if you do, magically, they get better. 00:28:52.453 --> 00:28:56.615 And a lot of things get simpler, 00:28:56.635 --> 00:28:57.195 not easier, 00:28:57.276 --> 00:29:00.076 simpler if communication is a skill or 00:29:00.096 --> 00:29:00.837 it's not a barrier. 00:29:01.397 --> 00:29:01.998 Absolutely. 00:29:02.798 --> 00:29:03.259 Yeah. 00:29:03.318 --> 00:29:03.519 All right. 00:29:03.538 --> 00:29:04.920 So what are you talking about this year? 00:29:04.940 --> 00:29:06.861 You're no stranger to this style of talk. 00:29:06.921 --> 00:29:07.621 What's the preview? 00:29:08.217 --> 00:29:10.298 The preview is the title of the talk 00:29:10.358 --> 00:29:12.859 is Survival, Life, and Leadership, 00:29:12.901 --> 00:29:14.761 which is this dramatic title, 00:29:15.162 --> 00:29:16.583 but it's really three parts. 00:29:16.742 --> 00:29:17.683 So survival, 00:29:18.404 --> 00:29:20.786 I talk about when I was a brand 00:29:20.806 --> 00:29:21.487 new PT, 00:29:21.846 --> 00:29:23.268 I was working during September 00:29:24.449 --> 00:29:27.352 And that was a very catastrophic time in 00:29:27.412 --> 00:29:29.515 our country and working in a clinic where 00:29:29.535 --> 00:29:32.458 we saw some survivors, a few survivors. 00:29:33.519 --> 00:29:36.241 Then also survivorship in terms of 00:29:36.261 --> 00:29:37.222 Hurricane Sandy, 00:29:37.242 --> 00:29:40.425 which came to the same medical center, 00:29:40.465 --> 00:29:41.166 working through that. 00:29:41.186 --> 00:29:42.607 That's a different style of leadership, 00:29:42.667 --> 00:29:44.750 working during catastrophic times. 00:29:46.086 --> 00:29:47.948 The second part of the talk has to 00:29:47.988 --> 00:29:49.969 do with life lessons. 00:29:50.690 --> 00:29:53.111 And working in an academic medical center, 00:29:53.131 --> 00:29:55.093 I've been privileged to work with some 00:29:55.192 --> 00:29:57.574 really, really interesting patients. 00:29:57.614 --> 00:29:58.755 Like, for example, 00:30:00.777 --> 00:30:03.759 twice I had separated conjoined twins that 00:30:03.798 --> 00:30:04.398 I work with. 00:30:05.480 --> 00:30:06.220 And what I learned, 00:30:06.420 --> 00:30:09.162 they both survived the surgery. 00:30:09.403 --> 00:30:11.084 And what I learned from them and their 00:30:11.124 --> 00:30:11.443 journey 00:30:12.000 --> 00:30:13.260 I talk a little bit about that. 00:30:13.780 --> 00:30:16.083 And then the last part, leadership. 00:30:17.084 --> 00:30:19.346 I've had many great mentors over the 00:30:19.385 --> 00:30:19.746 years, 00:30:20.507 --> 00:30:22.127 and some of the lessons that they've 00:30:22.167 --> 00:30:25.590 provided me have really transformed me 00:30:26.131 --> 00:30:27.972 both at work but outside, 00:30:28.053 --> 00:30:29.153 also my personal life. 00:30:29.193 --> 00:30:31.715 So I bring in a few anecdotes from 00:30:32.636 --> 00:30:32.876 that. 00:30:33.632 --> 00:30:33.951 Perfect. 00:30:33.971 --> 00:30:34.251 All right. 00:30:34.332 --> 00:30:35.592 And you've heard me ask the other guests 00:30:35.652 --> 00:30:35.811 too, 00:30:36.432 --> 00:30:37.813 who do you hope is in the audience? 00:30:37.833 --> 00:30:38.173 But really, 00:30:38.192 --> 00:30:39.472 I think I got better at asking the 00:30:39.492 --> 00:30:41.253 question, the more I asked, which is like, 00:30:41.273 --> 00:30:42.013 you know, who do you hope is there, 00:30:42.034 --> 00:30:42.594 but also like, 00:30:42.614 --> 00:30:44.614 what do you hope you hear about a 00:30:44.854 --> 00:30:46.394 year, three, five years later? 00:30:46.974 --> 00:30:47.555 You know, 00:30:47.595 --> 00:30:49.414 I would love to have a lot of 00:30:49.515 --> 00:30:50.276 students in there. 00:30:50.316 --> 00:30:51.695 And we tend to do at CSM, 00:30:51.776 --> 00:30:54.737 you know, coming from a music background, 00:30:54.997 --> 00:30:55.957 I'm not really proud of this, 00:30:55.977 --> 00:30:57.396 but I almost, you know, 00:30:57.436 -->

00:30:59.377 college wasn't really something I was 00:30:59.657 --> 00:31:00.298 going to do. 00:31:00.357 --> 00:31:01.538 And I I'm glad I did. 00:31:02.625 --> 00:31:04.105 having students there and saying, listen, 00:31:04.125 --> 00:31:05.405 if I can do this, you can, 00:31:05.826 --> 00:31:05.986 you know, 00:31:06.006 --> 00:31:07.546 if you're interested in this and you want 00:31:07.566 --> 00:31:08.486 to get into leadership, 00:31:08.806 --> 00:31:10.166 here's a guy who is, you know, 00:31:10.567 --> 00:31:12.666 driving around the country in a van with 00:31:12.747 --> 00:31:15.048 a band, you know, and now, um, 00:31:15.587 --> 00:31:15.827 you know, 00:31:15.887 --> 00:31:17.388 if you really want to get the leadership, 00:31:17.689 --> 00:31:18.469 I'm not, you know, 00:31:18.528 --> 00:31:20.269 that normal trajectory of it, 00:31:20.308 --> 00:31:21.569 but you can do it. 00:31:21.769 --> 00:31:23.250 And I think I can help students. 00:31:23.762 --> 00:31:26.028 who do have an interest in leadership from 00:31:26.067 --> 00:31:28.374 maybe a non-traditional pathway into it. 00:31:28.835 --> 00:31:32.363 I'd love to see that and talk to 00:31:32.403 --> 00:31:33.105 people like that. 00:31:33.492 --> 00:31:35.473 There's a lot more people than you think 00:31:35.534 --> 00:31:36.535 coming to this profession 00:31:36.595 --> 00:31:37.454 non-traditionally. 00:31:37.494 --> 00:31:38.596 I know we all, I mean, look, 00:31:38.756 --> 00:31:40.156 John and I, we're wearing the ties, man. 00:31:40.176 --> 00:31:41.057 We look all straight laced, 00:31:41.077 --> 00:31:42.357 but this guy's over here banging on the 00:31:42.397 --> 00:31:44.279 drums like in a former life, right? 00:31:44.339 --> 00:31:46.161 I was pushing play and talking into a 00:31:46.221 --> 00:31:48.442 microphone and you can learn a lot from 00:31:48.501 --> 00:31:49.262 those things. 00:31:49.343 --> 00:31:51.223 This is the different things that you 00:31:51.243 --> 00:31:52.704 didn't know could be valuable. 00:31:52.805 --> 00:31:53.085 All right, John, 00:31:53.105 --> 00:31:53.964 I'm gonna put you back in the green 00:31:53.984 --> 00:31:54.086 room. 00:31:54.105 --> 00:31:55.526 We'll bring you back for your parting 00:31:55.546 --> 00:31:55.906 shot. 00:31:56.346 --> 00:31:57.528 No stranger to the show. 00:31:58.167 --> 00:31:59.868 Kristen Walls, there she is. 00:32:00.548 --> 00:32:02.269 Pivoting to the cell phone there, I see. 00:32:02.328 --> 00:32:03.549 Yeah, we had a little connection problem. 00:32:03.589 --> 00:32:04.990 Hi, Jimmy. 00:32:05.009 --> 00:32:06.250 I can't hear anything right now. 00:32:07.090 --> 00:32:07.931 Can't hear anything right now? 00:32:07.951 --> 00:32:08.510 All right. 00:32:08.550 --> 00:32:09.111 Well, 00:32:09.131 --> 00:32:11.412 Kristen comes to us because she's taught 00:32:11.471 --> 00:32:12.231 and led LAMP. 00:32:12.332 --> 00:32:13.492 I'll put you back in the green room, 00:32:13.532 --> 00:32:14.333 bring back Susan. 00:32:14.593 --> 00:32:16.452 Susan, this is called pivoting in LAMP. 00:32:16.472 --> 00:32:17.693 All right. 00:32:19.233 --> 00:32:20.335 What's Kristen's background? 00:32:20.355 --> 00:32:21.035 Do you know it? 00:32:21.055 --> 00:32:22.075 What do you know about Kristen's 00:32:22.095 --> 00:32:22.295 background? 00:32:22.315 --> 00:32:22.555 Oh, my gosh. 00:32:22.575 --> 00:32:25.236 Kristen is absolutely amazing. 00:32:25.722 --> 00:32:27.604 She is a physical therapist, 00:32:27.723 --> 00:32:29.825 worked with the OSU athletes. 00:32:30.305 --> 00:32:31.365 And I'm not going to say the word 00:32:31.505 --> 00:32:33.185 the in front of it, you know, 00:32:33.226 --> 00:32:36.567 because in the Big Ten around here, 00:32:36.606 --> 00:32:38.607 we say go Hoosiers and Boiler Up. 00:32:38.627 --> 00:32:38.708 Yeah. 00:32:38.728 --> 00:32:41.368 Congratulations, by the way. 00:32:41.828 --> 00:32:42.108 I know. 00:32:42.229 --> 00:32:42.509 Right. 00:32:42.548 --> 00:32:44.910 But I'm more of a Boilermaker. 00:32:45.230 --> 00:32:48.270 All right. 00:32:48.290 --> 00:32:49.191 So what do we want to talk about 00:32:49.211 --> 00:32:50.251 in terms of Kristen's talk? 00:32:50.551 --> 00:32:51.852 So Kristen, you know, 00:32:51.951 --> 00:32:53.313 I don't know what Kristen's talk is. 00:32:53.751 --> 00:32:57.473 I know Kristen has made several career 00:32:57.493 --> 00:32:59.555 moves from working with athletes to 00:32:59.595 --> 00:33:01.557 working in the clinic to running a clinic. 00:33:01.576 --> 00:33:06.398 She built an amazing performance center. 00:33:07.200 --> 00:33:09.421 She decided to pivot because she has two 00:33:09.461 --> 00:33:11.563 young, amazing, gorgeous girls. 00:33:12.182 --> 00:33:14.263 And so she pivoted to a whole different 00:33:14.384 --> 00:33:16.945 area of health care to be at home. 00:33:17.086 --> 00:33:19.446 And she does utilization review for 00:33:19.826 --> 00:33:20.708 insurance companies. 00:33:21.172 --> 00:33:23.333 which if someone's gonna review my chart 00:33:23.492 --> 00:33:24.613 and say how many visits I get, 00:33:24.873 --> 00:33:25.893 I want it to be Kristen. 00:33:27.153 --> 00:33:28.574 Oh, maybe she's coming back. 00:33:28.794 --> 00:33:29.834 Can you hear us now, Kristen? 00:33:29.854 --> 00:33:31.335 I can hear you. 00:33:32.474 --> 00:33:33.674 Could you hear everything I said? 00:33:33.714 --> 00:33:34.654 Was that pretty spot on? 00:33:34.674 --> 00:33:34.895 All right, 00:33:35.776 --> 00:33:36.875 I think we're a little bit delayed, 00:33:36.895 --> 00:33:38.957 but that's okay. 00:33:38.997 --> 00:33:39.336 Kristen, 00:33:39.356 --> 00:33:40.876 just give people the back of the baseball 00:33:40.916 --> 00:33:42.257 card, frame them up. 00:33:42.297 --> 00:33:43.117 Who do you get to be? 00:33:43.157 --> 00:33:46.999 Who are you in this profession? 00:33:47.098 --> 00:33:47.878 I can't hear you. 00:33:49.161 --> 00:33:50.942 right well story of my life

me talking 00:33:50.961 --> 00:33:52.442 and people not listening or not being able 00:33:52.461 --> 00:33:53.482 to hear me that's just really what it 00:33:53.502 --> 00:33:55.002 looks like all right let's bring all the 00:33:55.042 --> 00:33:57.304 guests back on and we'll go to green 00:33:57.344 --> 00:33:59.045 room this is called the pivot in uh 00:33:59.125 --> 00:34:02.246 in radio uh so parting shot uh we 00:34:02.286 --> 00:34:03.866 say parting shots brought to you by u.s 00:34:03.906 --> 00:34:05.647 physical therapy our friends a national 00:34:05.688 --> 00:34:07.748 network of clinics focused on developing 00:34:07.788 --> 00:34:09.728 clinicians not burning them out leadership 00:34:09.768 --> 00:34:11.269 tracks mentorship career growth 00:34:11.750 --> 00:34:13.471 and the stability to build your future in 00:34:13.490 --> 00:34:13.972 PT. 00:34:14.472 --> 00:34:15.753 If you want a place that supports you 00:34:15.793 --> 00:34:17.875 and how you want to practice, that's USPH. 00:34:17.994 --> 00:34:19.456 Find them at USPH.com. 00:34:19.916 --> 00:34:21.137 That's USPH.com. 00:34:21.157 --> 00:34:22.458 See how we just slipped the live reading 00:34:22.617 --> 00:34:23.518 in there as we're pivoting? 00:34:23.958 --> 00:34:25.199 Kristen, if you can hear us, 00:34:25.639 --> 00:34:26.400 give us a thumbs up. 00:34:26.460 --> 00:34:28.141 If not, we'll pivot to everybody else. 00:34:29.623 --> 00:34:31.224 Lori, let's go to your parting shot. 00:34:31.264 --> 00:34:32.885 What's the last thing you'd want the 00:34:33.005 --> 00:34:36.007 audience to leave thinking about? 00:34:36.027 --> 00:34:36.367 I can't. 00:34:36.487 --> 00:34:36.568 Yay! 00:34:42.096 --> 00:34:42.416 You know, 00:34:42.496 --> 00:34:44.538 I use a few quotes and one is 00:34:44.619 --> 00:34:46.280 psychologist Vivian Brewer. 00:34:46.400 --> 00:34:48.501 And she said that when people talk, 00:34:48.942 --> 00:34:50.603 the world gets constructed. 00:34:50.643 --> 00:34:51.483 And that's what we do. 00:34:51.543 --> 00:34:52.925 We talk with our patients, 00:34:52.965 --> 00:34:54.246 we talk with our team, 00:34:54.646 --> 00:34:56.128 we talk with other leaders. 00:34:56.588 --> 00:34:57.949 And I want everybody, 00:34:58.269 --> 00:35:01.172 students and people who work in clinical 00:35:01.192 --> 00:35:03.153 practice and leaders at different 00:35:03.875 --> 00:35:04.594 positions, 00:35:05.235 --> 00:35:07.257 just to understand they have a huge 00:35:07.438 --> 00:35:08.318 opportunity 00:35:09.119 --> 00:35:11.942 to with others construct the world that 00:35:11.981 --> 00:35:13.483 they want to see together. 00:35:14.423 --> 00:35:14.844 Love that. 00:35:14.963 --> 00:35:16.244 Good parting shot. 00:35:17.306 --> 00:35:17.686 Jennifer, 00:35:17.706 --> 00:35:18.907 we'll go parting shot next with you. 00:35:18.927 --> 00:35:19.849 What do you want to leave with the 00:35:19.889 --> 00:35:20.309 audience? 00:35:21.010 --> 00:35:23.351 So I just

want you to know that 00:35:23.572 --> 00:35:26.815 feeling passionate is fun. 00:35:27.635 --> 00:35:31.518 And I really want to help everybody or 00:35:31.559 --> 00:35:34.922 to ask them what their passion is, 00:35:34.961 --> 00:35:36.182 what they're passionate about. 00:35:36.811 --> 00:35:39.612 and really feel that and let that guide 00:35:39.652 --> 00:35:43.213 you in your professional leadership 00:35:43.293 --> 00:35:43.614 journey. 00:35:44.494 --> 00:35:45.014 Love it. 00:35:45.034 --> 00:35:46.315 Sean, you've done this before. 00:35:46.454 --> 00:35:47.735 No stranger to the parting shot. 00:35:47.755 --> 00:35:48.476 What do you want to leave with you? 00:35:48.496 --> 00:35:49.536 What's your mic drop moment? 00:35:51.556 --> 00:35:53.356 This is an opportunity for people to hear 00:35:53.416 --> 00:35:56.117 the stories of so many people that have 00:35:56.157 --> 00:35:57.498 affected the profession of physical 00:35:57.518 --> 00:35:57.938 therapy. 00:35:58.739 --> 00:36:01.880 And it's not an instantaneous moment 00:36:01.900 --> 00:36:02.480 you're looking at. 00:36:03.061 --> 00:36:04.081 This is generational. 00:36:04.625 --> 00:36:05.905 And we need people to take up the 00:36:05.925 --> 00:36:08.306 next generation and leave this profession 00:36:08.327 --> 00:36:10.108 where it needs to go. 00:36:10.168 --> 00:36:12.570 That with the voice and the beard sounds 00:36:12.630 --> 00:36:13.451 very serious. 00:36:13.510 --> 00:36:13.851 Good. 00:36:13.931 --> 00:36:14.391 All right, John, 00:36:14.411 --> 00:36:15.311 all the way from New York City, 00:36:15.331 --> 00:36:16.353 what's your parting shot today? 00:36:16.893 --> 00:36:19.775 Parting shot is these skills can be 00:36:19.835 --> 00:36:20.175 learned. 00:36:20.476 --> 00:36:22.257 A lot of people feel leadership is 00:36:22.317 --> 00:36:23.938 something people have or you don't. 00:36:24.706 --> 00:36:25.266 But guess what? 00:36:25.327 --> 00:36:27.327 You can learn it and you should come, 00:36:27.347 --> 00:36:29.367 get involved with LAMP, come to the talk. 00:36:30.007 --> 00:36:31.987 We're going to teach and we're also 00:36:32.027 --> 00:36:33.449 available to help you. 00:36:33.949 --> 00:36:35.768 Many students come out unprepared for 00:36:35.809 --> 00:36:37.248 leadership until recently. 00:36:38.449 --> 00:36:39.849 Jennifer's course, 00:36:40.190 --> 00:36:41.510 most students are scared of this, 00:36:41.969 --> 00:36:43.911 but we can help you and you can 00:36:43.951 --> 00:36:44.271 learn it. 00:36:45.490 --> 00:36:46.090 All right, Kristen, 00:36:46.110 --> 00:36:47.630 do we have the audio back together? 00:36:47.670 --> 00:36:49.592 How's that looking? 00:36:49.692 --> 00:36:50.291 I think so. 00:36:50.391 --> 00:36:50.992 Can you hear me? 00:36:51.971 --> 00:36:53.110 A little bit, you're a little delayed. 00:36:53.170 --> 00:36:53.492 Kristen, 00:36:53.512 --> 00:36:56.152 give people context real quick about who 00:36:56.172 --> 00:36:57.233 you are in the profession. 00:36:58.652 --> 00:36:59.092 Okay. 00:36:59.693 --> 00:37:00.934 I'm Kristen Walls. 00:37:01.534 --> 00:37:03.914 My background is I'm a residency trained 00:37:03.934 --> 00:37:04.755 sports PT, 00:37:05.115 --> 00:37:06.755 worked in collegiate athletics and 00:37:06.815 --> 00:37:07.976 outpatient ortho, 00:37:08.436 --> 00:37:10.597 and have now found my way into kind 00:37:10.657 --> 00:37:12.777 of non-clinical work on the utilization 00:37:12.838 --> 00:37:13.257 side. 00:37:15.018 --> 00:37:15.219 Yeah. 00:37:15.318 --> 00:37:17.480 And then I'm active in my state chapter 00:37:17.519 --> 00:37:18.059 in Ohio. 00:37:18.786 --> 00:37:20.487 And within the Academy of Leadership and 00:37:20.527 --> 00:37:22.128 Innovation with LAMP leadership, 00:37:22.507 --> 00:37:26.409 I'm also the education chair for the 00:37:26.429 --> 00:37:26.851 Academy. 00:37:26.911 --> 00:37:27.971 All right. 00:37:28.010 --> 00:37:29.092 What are you jumping on stage? 00:37:29.132 --> 00:37:29.871 What's the story? 00:37:29.952 --> 00:37:31.293 Here's your chance to sort of tease 00:37:31.353 --> 00:37:33.173 forward and put butts in seats coming up. 00:37:33.213 --> 00:37:35.175 And I'll give the details about when the 00:37:35.215 --> 00:37:36.135 session is all that. 00:37:36.175 --> 00:37:37.336 Focus on the story. 00:37:39.518 --> 00:37:40.117 Sure. 00:37:40.177 --> 00:37:40.318 Well, 00:37:40.338 --> 00:37:42.360 first I want to say congratulations on 00:37:42.400 --> 00:37:44.960 being the recipient of our LAMP Lighter 00:37:45.061 --> 00:37:47.422 Award for twenty twenty five, Jimmy. 00:37:47.483 --> 00:37:48.063 Big deal. 00:37:49.563 --> 00:37:51.443 Appreciate it. 00:37:51.483 --> 00:37:52.324 Yes. 00:37:52.344 --> 00:37:53.445 But my story, 00:37:54.385 --> 00:37:56.726 the one I gave in Boston was called 00:37:56.786 --> 00:37:57.608 Don't Shrink. 00:37:58.148 --> 00:38:00.009 So it was about kind of finding your 00:38:00.048 --> 00:38:01.650 purpose and moving towards 00:38:02.329 --> 00:38:03.110 self-leadership. 00:38:03.471 --> 00:38:05.452 And this is also a self-leadership story 00:38:05.512 --> 00:38:07.152 called You Matter Too. 00:38:07.992 --> 00:38:10.994 And it's kind of my exploration and 00:38:11.155 --> 00:38:13.235 finding myself after being 00:38:14.090 --> 00:38:15.851 lost in the role of being a physical 00:38:15.891 --> 00:38:18.333 therapist and forgetting myself along the 00:38:18.353 --> 00:38:20.954 way so that that self-abandonment that 00:38:21.016 --> 00:38:24.016 many of us feel um as providers and 00:38:24.077 --> 00:38:26.358 parents and the sandwich generation 00:38:26.398 --> 00:38:28.300 everything in between it's you know don't 00:38:28.320 --> 00:38:30.380 forget yourself along the way and care for 00:38:30.400 --> 00:38:33.043 yourself love it all right well you're no 00:38:33.063 --> 00:38:34.423 stranger to the show you know how we 00:38:34.463 --> 00:38:36.184 wrap up

what's the parting shot you'd want 00:38:36.224 --> 00:38:37.146 to leave with the audience 00:38:39.079 --> 00:38:39.719 Yeah. 00:38:39.739 --> 00:38:41.059 So every audience, 00:38:41.599 --> 00:38:43.300 I think anyone who's maybe feeling that 00:38:43.340 --> 00:38:45.121 should be coming to the TED Talks and 00:38:45.141 --> 00:38:46.862 maybe hearing this ten minute story just 00:38:46.902 --> 00:38:48.184 for inspiration and connection. 00:38:48.744 --> 00:38:51.485 But my big, you know, 00:38:51.505 --> 00:38:52.907 parting shot would be and I think it's 00:38:52.947 --> 00:38:54.987 kind of consistent for every podcast I've 00:38:55.007 --> 00:38:57.128 done with you is provide your wellness and 00:38:57.168 --> 00:38:59.751 professional sustainability has to be in 00:38:59.791 --> 00:39:01.711 the forefront and the leaders get to help 00:39:02.291 --> 00:39:03.972 drive that and be a part of that. 00:39:05.800 --> 00:39:08.463 So I would say let's make this a 00:39:08.503 --> 00:39:08.882 focus. 00:39:08.922 --> 00:39:10.744 Let's continue to keep our workforce 00:39:10.784 --> 00:39:13.146 together and healthy. 00:39:13.186 --> 00:39:13.726 Sounds great. 00:39:14.106 --> 00:39:14.507 Perfect. 00:39:14.586 --> 00:39:15.507 All right. 00:39:15.527 --> 00:39:16.429 No pressure, Susan, 00:39:16.449 --> 00:39:17.769 but you get to back clean up here 00:39:17.789 --> 00:39:18.570 with a parting shot. 00:39:18.590 --> 00:39:19.371 What do you want to leave with the 00:39:19.411 --> 00:39:20.592 audience as we wrap up? 00:39:21.492 --> 00:39:24.114 I would say this talk is amazing for 00:39:24.193 --> 00:39:27.257 anybody who's had any sort of 00:39:27.396 --> 00:39:30.579 uncomfortable feeling in their profession 00:39:30.639 --> 00:39:31.760 as a PT, right? 00:39:32.454 --> 00:39:33.835 all leave i've talked about the big l 00:39:33.876 --> 00:39:35.818 and the little l a lot of our 00:39:35.958 --> 00:39:38.820 ted style talks come from a place of 00:39:39.940 --> 00:39:41.061 of getting comfortable with the 00:39:41.121 --> 00:39:43.983 uncomfortable right of a time when you've 00:39:44.003 --> 00:39:46.045 had to grow a time of when you've 00:39:46.105 --> 00:39:49.708 had to figure something out and again when 00:39:49.768 --> 00:39:51.349 i went to my first one i got 00:39:51.369 --> 00:39:52.730 there and i thought oh my gosh i'm 00:39:52.769 --> 00:39:54.291 not the only one that went through 00:39:54.351 --> 00:39:56.432 something like that oh they went through 00:39:56.452 --> 00:39:58.193 that too and that's how they got through 00:39:58.273 --> 00:40:00.715 it um it's it's just 00:40:01.943 --> 00:40:05.485 It's an amazing way to connect with others 00:40:05.867 --> 00:40:07.527 who have gone through something similar. 00:40:07.588 --> 00:40:09.389 You may not connect with every single 00:40:09.449 --> 00:40:09.989 talk, 00:40:10.490 --> 00:40:12.373 but I guarantee if you are a physical 00:40:12.413 --> 00:40:16.456 therapist in any sort of practice or work, 00:40:17.376 --> 00:40:18.818 somebody is going to have something on 00:40:18.838 --> 00:40:20.320 that stage that you're going to connect 00:40:20.380 --> 00:40:22.822 with and feel better because of it. 00:40:22.842 --> 00:40:23.202 Yeah. 00:40:23.862 --> 00:40:25.204 And the funny part is just how it 00:40:25.224 --> 00:40:25.545 happens. 00:40:25.585 --> 00:40:26.806 The people who are in the audience in 00:40:26.826 --> 00:40:27.666 a couple of years, 00:40:28.990 --> 00:40:30.110 You're going to be telling one of those 00:40:30.150 --> 00:40:31.070 stories on stage. 00:40:31.452 --> 00:40:32.291 It's in the show notes, 00:40:32.311 --> 00:40:33.132 but I will say it here. 00:40:33.172 --> 00:40:34.351 The LAMP leadership style, 00:40:34.552 --> 00:40:35.391 TED style talks, 00:40:35.771 --> 00:40:38.172 shared lessons on leading within and 00:40:38.213 --> 00:40:38.813 leading others. 00:40:38.932 --> 00:40:40.313 Thursday, February twelfth. 00:40:40.393 --> 00:40:41.793 That's two o'clock p.m. 00:40:41.813 --> 00:40:42.753 to three thirty. 00:40:43.293 --> 00:40:45.253 Check your APTA app and check your 00:40:45.273 --> 00:40:46.655 programs at home. 00:40:46.954 --> 00:40:47.974 Hey, thanks for doing this. 00:40:48.195 --> 00:40:49.434 Congrats on a decade. 00:40:49.894 --> 00:40:51.775 Getting people together, you know, 00:40:51.936 --> 00:40:52.755 once is difficult. 00:40:52.795 --> 00:40:54.076 Never mind ten times in a row. 00:40:54.436 --> 00:40:56.277 So thanks so much for sharing here. 00:40:56.297 --> 00:40:57.376 And we'll see you guys in L.A. 00:41:01.898 --> 00:41:02.418 Thanks, Jimmy. 00:41:02.619 --> 00:41:03.400 See, Keith? 00:41:03.460 --> 00:41:04.219 We read the script. 00:41:04.300 --> 00:41:04.820 Happy now?