Full Transcript for Magical Rewind: Tangled: Before Ever After

00:05:40 Speaker 1: That's a great name. 00:05:41 Speaker 2: My mom's Camillia Kathleen and she goes by Kathy. 00:05:43 Speaker 1: That's a great name. So then I'd be Alan in your family. Okay. Oh, I love Alan for you. I'd be Alan. 00:05:51 Speaker 2: Sometimes you have an Alan. 00:05:52 Speaker 1: Do I? You're a star, yes. When you hate a movie, that might be Alice. Because I throw a wrench into everything and I'm Alan Wrench. Okay. And then when you start to annoy me from now on... You're going to be Miss McIntyre. 00:06:04 Speaker 2: Oh, I mean, that's an honor. 00:06:07 Speaker 1: Well, welcome back to Magical Rewind, the show that makes you want to grab your friends, your PJs, and your popcorn and go back to a time when all the houses were smart that waved tsunamis. And Sabrina's name was still Sabrina. I'm Wilford L. 00:06:19 Speaker 2: And I'm Reba Lundberg. 00:06:21 Speaker 1: Reba Lundberg. No, that sounds terrible. 00:06:24 Speaker 2: It sounds great. 00:06:25 Speaker 1: There you go. So it is time to tap into some modern-day Disney Channel synergy. Synergy. gonna do that every time with a dcom slash sequel slash piece of ancillary content slash backdoor pilot slash slash slash slash it is 2017's animated tangled before ever after so were you a big fan of that we've talked about this you love the 2010 tangled. 00:06:48 Speaker 2: Right tangled is one of monroe's favorite movies so but monroe and i sat down last night we did the whole thing popcorn ledger got popcorn whatever And did the whole thing. And it was, I'm telling you, I have almost zero Sabrina C's because I was just like loving this moment and going, this is the job that I have right now. Are you kidding me? Monroe had some comments. And so my Sabrina C's are Monroe's comments. 00:07:16 Speaker 1: Okay, fair enough. I think we should also change it to Reba's rewatch. No, no. Instead of Sabrina C's, it's Reba watches. 00:07:24 Speaker 2: No, Reba would not like that at all. 00:07:29 Speaker 1: As everybody knows, by the way, I have not seen Tangled. But this DCOM acts as a sequel to the original in-theaters Tangled film and takes place between that story and the animated short Tangled Ever After that aired before the 3D theatrical release of Beauty and the Beast. I know that one. Then on Disney Channel for the premiere of Princess and the Frog, which I also haven't seen. Then on the Diamond Edition, Cinderella Blu-ray as a bonus feature. Yikes! And this is a great example of Disney being Disney. They are so good at pushing their properties, mixing them up for promotion. Just a great marketing company. Always has been. 00:08:00 Speaker 2: Always the perfect timing. 00:08:01 Speaker 1: Always will be. Yep. They know what they're doing. That's why they're Disney. It premiered on the channel March 10th, 2017. And more importantly, was a vehicle to release two new songs, Life After Happily Ever After and Wind Beneath My Wings. I'm kidding. It's Wind In My Hair. Both of these songs

were from the legendary EGOT winner Alan Menken and the impressive Glenn Slater, the songwriters for the original film. A quick lesson here on Menken. He has won, this is insane, eight Oscars, a Tony Award, 11 Grammys, seven Golden Globes, and a Daytime Emmy. He is just one of 22 people that have won an EGOT. You know him from absolute classics like The Little Mermaid, Beauty and the Beast, Aladdin, Pocahontas, Little Shop of Horrors, Newsies, and Enchanted, to name just a few. Ann Slater is a frequent Mencken collaborator, say that five times fast, who also worked with Andrew Lloyd Webber and has been nominated for three Tonys for the Broadway versions of Little Mermaid, Sister Act, and School of Rock. Quite the team. 00:08:59 Speaker 2: Jesus. 00:09:00 Speaker 1: It's like Simon and Garfunkel if they were both Simons. This, I'm kidding, Garfunkel was awesome. This was the fourth animated feature DCOM, joining Kim Possible, so the drama, KP! The Proud Family movies, and the Phineas and Ferb movie, but it was the first ever to be based on a Walt Disney Studios film. Getting the original cast to return was obviously quite the achievement, and we'll get into that, but first, like I said, this DCOM ended up acting as a pilot for the Disney Channel TV show Tangled the Series, then later called Rapunzel's Tangled Adventure. It's a real who's on first type of situation here. What's on second? I don't know who's on third. If you don't know, you know. This DCOM was the introduction for the show and was a big deal for the channel. The resulting show would go on to air for three seasons from 2017 to 2020, clocking in 60 episodes, and we'll get into that, but I believe the person who directed that is a very close friend of mine. This DCOM got a rather positive reception. People loved returning to the Tangled universe, and the premiere brought in almost 3 million viewers, and it was nominated for three Annie Awards. Those are animation awards, by the way, not just awards given out by the little orphan Annie. The sun will come out. Sorry. Worth mentioning also, the original Tangled pitch was from legendary Disney animator and director Glenn Keane. And it spent six years in production, racking up an estimated cost of $ 260 million. 00:10:23 Speaker 2: Can you tell me, in the realm of like, is six years for a production like this, does that make sense? Or is it like, oh, they hit some bumps? 00:10:31 Speaker 3: Both. 00:10:32 Speaker 2: Give me some intel on that. 00:10:33 Speaker 1: Yeah, both. I mean, again, animation is always going to take longer. Every time you watch an animated whatever. Right. Let's say you're watching an animated television show that was recorded in the booth a year before you see it. But I mean, they're also talking about from pitching to then developing the story to outlining to script to recording to casting to animating to blah, blah, blah. So six years is a long time, but four isn't kind of out of the realm. So six years is a bit long, but it's not like, oh, my God, this is crazy. What's more crazy is the $ 260 million budget making it the most expensive animated feature film ever. ever top gun was not $ 260 million. So again, it shows you original, the last one that just came out wasn't $ 260 million. So again, it's one of the most expensive films in general ever made was the, was the original tangled animated animated movie, which is incredible. Do you want to see more animated decoms? I know they're now focused on music oriented live action, but I I'm a massive animation fan. So I want to see more. I do. 00:11:35 Speaker 2: Absolutely. 00:11:36 Speaker 1: Take like, there should be, this is no joke. They talk about synergy. It's one of those things where I would do a high school musical cartoon. I would do a camp rock cartoon. I would do, they already have descendants. I think they have zombies. They do have zombies. 00:11:50 Speaker 2: Monroe loves the zombies. 00:11:51 Speaker 1: Yeah, of course. So I would do, I would do stuff like that all the time. 00:11:54 Speaker 2: Okay. 00:11:55 Speaker 1: But anyway, did you know that Tangled, that this existed before we watched? 00:11:59 Speaker 2: I did not. 00:12:00 Speaker 1: I obviously did not know anything about this, but. You out there in podcast land can watch Tangled before, ever, after, right now on the Disney +, right alongside all the Tangled content we've been talking about. And you can do it now, before or after we recap the movie. It's up to you entirely. But I will let you know this. We were recently informed that a man named Steve Sasparoon has been watching the movies before listening to the podcast, and he's developed some pretty nasty side effects. So we're legally required to now say if you watch the movie first. 00:12:30 Speaker 2: I thought that was actually real. 00:12:31 Speaker 1: No. You could encounter itchy, rash, stuffy nose, depression, migraines, belly laughs, or an unexpected connection to the song Smooth Criminal. 00:12:39 Speaker 2: Sorry, Steve. 00:12:39 Speaker 1: It's all right. Now, great, let's get that out of the way and let your hair down, and we'll listen to the synopsis. As Rapunzel prepares for her coronation as Princess of Corona, which I thought was just a princess of a beer company, but it turns out it's not, one unforgettable situation will change her hair once again. Early thoughts, what did you think of the movie, Sabrina? 00:12:59 Speaker 2: I had The best time with my kids last night watching this. And I'm going to leave it at that. 00:13:06 Speaker 1: Okay, good. Yeah, I liked it. I'm a sucker for animation. You are. I liked this style of animation. I liked everything. The movie was directed by Stephen Sandoval and Tom Caulfield. Sandoval came from the TV side, directing and producing shows like Drawn Together, Futurama, and Rick and Morty. And he'd go on to work on Tangled, the TV series. Caulfield, on the other hand, hadn't directed much, but he worked in the art

department on tons of Disney straight-to-video sequels, like The Jungle Book 2, Lilo and Stitch 2, Stitch Has a Glitch, Bambi 2, and recently Netflix's Maya and the Three. As I mentioned before, there's lots of big names here. It is stacked with some actors you know all about, so we're not going to linger long. Pop star-turned-actress Mandy Moore returns as the voice of Rapunzel. Moore broke out in the TRL days of MTV as a singer and has since been on movies like A Walk to Remember and The Breadwinner, but is probably best known for her time on the TV show This Is Us. Zachary Levi voices Eugene. Levi first broke out on the TV show Chuck as Chuck. He also played Shazam in the superhero movie Shazam and has been seen in the Marvelous Mrs. Maisel, the Thor movies, and Spy Kids Armageddon. And then we have Julie Bowen, who I just love so much, who voices Queen Ariana. She is the mom on Modern Family and has been in a whole bunch of other stuff. Jeffrey Tambor is Big Nose. Tambor is a longtime character actor in comedy, best known as George Bluth Sr. on Arrested Development and Mora on Transparent. Sean Hayes plays Pete the Guard. He's one-third of the podcast smart list these days and a major force on Broadway, but he's best known as Jack McFarlane on Will & Grace. Then we have Laura Benati as the voice of Lady Kane. She is a five-time Tony Award-winning actress from musicals like Gypsy, Swing, Nine, and Women on the Verge of a Nervous Breakdown. 00:14:40 Speaker 2: Oh, and I have like a comment about that. Why was she not singing? 00:14:46 Speaker 1: We'll get into the singing because that's one of the things I didn't like. And finally, just wanted to point out my pal Dietrich Bader. As Stan the Guard, he's most recognizable from the Drew Carey show and movies like Office Space and Napoleon Dynamite, but is a voice acting legend from projects like Ice Age, The Simpsons, South Park, Penguins of Madagascar, and batman so i've worked with him many many many many many times known him for years uh speaking of which by the way we talked about who directed the film but the people who get very little recognition are there's a second director who's directs the actual voice actors not anything visual and that is my very close friend mary elizabeth mcglynn go check out everything mary's done she is a stud of a voiceover director she is also My Dungeons and Dragons wife. So she is the Zara to my cash. It is a movie. It's a sequel. It's a TV show pilot. But how long is it? At Magical Rewind, it's 90 minutes or die. Every good story can be told in exactly an hour and a half. So let's see where this one lands. Oh, wait for this one, people. Tangled Before Ever After is... 55 minutes. Wow. We're breaking records here, people. Insanely short. This couldn't even be considered a movie if it went to the theaters. 00:15:56 Speaker 2: I didn't even believe it was a decom when our producers brought us to this. 00:16:00 Speaker 1: I have to say I was excited when I saw it

was 55 minutes. I'm going to be totally honest with you. I've been watching a lot of stuff for work lately. And when I paused it, I was like, it's 55 minutes. 00:16:08 Speaker 2: I know. 00:16:09 Speaker 1: It was great. When it comes to the script, it's all based on the original film from Dan Fogelman, one of Hollywood's most in-demand writers. He was the creator of This Is Us and the newer show Paradise. He also wrote Cars, Cars 2, Bolt, Crazy Stupid Love, and will forever work in this business. Hit us up, Dan. We want to talk to you. This DCOM, however, was written by Jace Ritchie or Rishi. I don't know how you pronounce it. Jace is a veteran animated writer on shows like 2012's TV version of Ninja Turtles. Never played a turtle. Teen Titans Go, wrote for that show, Batman, Caped and Creator, and he'd write basically every episode of Rapunzel's Tangled Up Adventure, which of course adds up. So, everybody, let's get this coronation started in the recap of Tangled Before Ever After. Here we go. Eugene narrates over picture book style illustrations, which really is a visual vibe of the whole movie. He catches us up on what went down in Tangled, which thank God, because I never saw it. And he says, this is the story of how I died and went to heaven. The kingdom of Corona, to be exact. Once upon a time, a single drop of sunlight fell from the heavens. And now he promises a rapid fire shorthand of the story. The sun drop created a golden flower with healing powers. Creepy old mother Gothel sang a song to said flower to regain her youth. Yada, yada, yada. The queen got sick. Flower healed the queen. Queen gave birth to Rapunzel, who was born with the flower's magical healing powers. And everything was all flying lanterns and cheering subjects until Gothel stole the princess Alan. Yeah, exactly. Alan, if you will. Alan, if you will. Chimes in and tells him to focus. Eugene continues, so the beautiful young maiden, that's you, and the handsome rogue, that's me, made a deal. We followed some lanterns. I saved you from Gothel. You saved me from death. And then you got arguably the world's most dramatic haircut. And then that's when Rapunzel jumps in again. And then I was reunited with my long lost family. But that's where our new story began. Six months have passed and it's finally time for her princess coronation. Eugene and her wedding day was the biggest adventure they would ever face ever. But first, we're going to get this story. That's when we cut to Rapunzel and Eugene on horses galloping through the forest. It's a good way to see how good animation is, is how well they do the animals. And the horses looked great. They're outnumbered by scary guards on horses falling close behind. She tells Eugene she'll meet up at the wall, and they split up. They both run into obstacles like a bunny crossing and low-hanging logs, but overcome them like champs. They make it to the castle wall, and Rapunzel with a little frog named Pascal, who doesn't look like a

frog at all, I'm sorry, looks like a... like a salamander-y toad, like one of those chameleons that lick their eyes. It looks like one of those. They make it to the castle wall, the Pascal on her shoulder, and she climbs up the wall with the help of her horse. She looks out at the view just as Eugene flies off his horse and lands on the top of the wall next to her. He tells Rapunzel that she may think she won, but his hair is longer than hers now, so they gotta factor in wind resistance. Rapunzel laughs and wonders if he's ever seen anything so beautiful. He looks right at her and says, yes, he has, which is just awesome. They're about to kiss, but the guards finally catch up. Everyone seems relieved. The game's over, Your Highness. The welcoming ceremony is about to begin. They were just playing cops and robbers, apparently, with security guards. And with that, they're off to make her an official princess. Rapunzel challenges Eugene to race back to the castle, and we get our movie title with a montage and our first song. Life After Happily Ever After from Rapunzel. It's all about the struggles to adjust to a rigid royal life, high expectations, and busy coronation preparations. Here's the problem I had with it, and it had nothing to do with the song itself. At least at the beginning. all of the other characters, their mouths, they're singing, but her character was not. Her voice was singing everything, but every other character came in and was singing. So part of the time, they'd be on her, and her character wasn't singing, and then other characters come in singing, and then they'd cut back to her, and she'd be singing. And so it was like, wait, is she singing the song? Is the song just going on in the background? What's actually happening? So that was one of my problems. I was like, which one is this? 00:20:18 Speaker 2: There was like no choice made. 00:20:20 Speaker 1: Right. Yeah, yeah. Pick a lane. 00:20:20 Speaker 2: Which lane are we going in right now? 00:20:22 Speaker 1: Exactly. Pick a lane. I did. So that was one little issue I had. But I liked the song. Yeah, I liked the song. 00:20:27 Speaker 2: And especially as like a girl mom and who also knows Tangled of like this– Journey that this character's already been in. It was a great song. I thought it was so good. 00:20:38 Speaker 1: Yeah, I liked it too. 00:20:39 Speaker 2: Monroe was just like, she looked up to me and went, I love this song, mommy. And I was like, me too, girl. I am here. 00:20:46 Speaker 1: I agree. Cause it was, this was such a Disney song. Like it was a perfect Disney song. Inside the castle, we meet Cassandra who is helping Rapunzel and her king dad get ready for the big welcoming ceremony. The king says this is just the start and Rapunzel needs to try and start acting like a princess. And that is the great Clancy Brown, who is the voice of her dad. He's just the best. 00:21:07 Speaker 2: That's what I'm looking for right now, today. 00:21:10 Speaker 1: Okay. 00:21:10 Speaker 2: Okay, so Clancy Brown was. 00:21:12 Speaker 1: Clancy Brown, who arguably he's been in a thousand things, but arguably the greatest thing he's ever been in, he was the Kurgan in the main bad guy in... Oh, now, of course, I'm blanking on the name. Sorry, in Highlander, the original Highlander. But, I mean, he's the bad, the terrible guard in Shawshank Redemption. I mean, he's been in a thousand things. So he's not only a phenomenal actor, but a great guy. I've worked with him for years. I've done 10, 15. He's an amazing actor. 00:21:37 Speaker 2: Please pause and tell me, because you told me all your friends worked in this. So I need to know. 00:21:43 Speaker 1: When you look at the list of the cast, it was all my friends. I mean, 80% of the people in this movie were at my party. So you talk to a bunch of these people. Now I'm pissed. You talk to a bunch of these people. 00:21:55 Speaker 2: I was chatting everyone up. 00:21:56 Speaker 1: The ones that weren't there were invited and couldn't come. Like Mary and Steve Bloom, the director. They moved to Hawaii. So they wrote Going Gotham. So we're not going to be in L.A. But they were invited. I think Kari Wahlgren was in this. So you look at the list of people. It's like these are all my friends. 00:22:13 Speaker 2: But I had no idea because it's the voice actor. 00:22:16 Speaker 1: Part of it. This is what we do. We keep to ourselves. She knows how important this is to her dad. She won't just be representing herself and the family, but all of Corona. Rapunzel asks if she'll have any downtime soon, and her dad promises she'll adjust, especially because her pal Eugene seems to be adjusting just fine. And that's when we cut to Eugene getting ready, singing all about his new splendid life of royalty and how he'll propose to her. He thinks they really are living the happily ever after dream, but Rapunzel isn't so sure. Is this really happily ever after? The song ends, and she gives herself a pep talk in the mirror, and we already talked about how much we like the song. Out in the kingdom, a young boy is hanging up Rapunzel coronation posters when a rat grabs it and drags it into the sewer for a mysterious unseen woman named Lady Kane. We hear a man's voice ask what it is and she replies, time to pay our respects to our beloved royals. Then she lights the paper on fire. We are back at the castle. It's the welcome ceremony. A big prelude to the coronation. Rapunzel is out on the balcony watching everyone arrive while her secret future husband watches from the crowd. The family eventually moves down to the front of the castle to greet the visitors. Rapunzel greets Dame Van Hoskins of Rochester with a fierce bear hug, which is not very princess-like. She also is not wearing any shoes and calls a general named James Jimmy. The woman is acting like an animal with zero social status. Later that night, Rapunzel is sitting in a small docked boat when Eugene arrives to see how she's doing.

Rapunzel wonders if this is what he dreamed it would be, and he says she is the dream. As long as she's with him, the answer is yes, and I thought that was very sweet. He asks if she feels the same way, and she says, of course, she loves him with all of her heart. He tells her no one is expecting her to take all this in overnight, but he's been all over the world, and nothing is better than this. The castle, the friends, the family, and each other. They're about to kiss again and are interrupted again, this time by Cassandra scaring Eugene into the water and telling her to head inside. The next morning in the village, a trumpet player makes a big announcement. Princess Rapunzel has arrived to spend the day in town. This is when Rapunzel appears and waves to the town people, but the guards block her, swatting away hands. They smash her in between all of them. It was very funny and very cute. Someone nearby is juggling fire, so some overprotective guard dumps water on him to put the fire out. Some little girls are braiding each other's hair, and Rapunzel runs over to say hi, but the guard once again ruins the day by blocking her. Someone tries to hand Rapunzel a cupcake, but another guard sticks his finger in it and Tess tastes it for poison, which is just gross. This is not how she thought it would be. Rapunzel is now sitting on the edge of her bed, and Cassandra asks, Big day on the town? Wasn't all you hoped it'd be? Rapunzel calls it interesting, but wishes her dad would let her see the real world. Cassandra says maybe she could sneak her out, but then a messenger knocks on the door. The royal banquet is ready to receive the princess now. Cassandra encourages Rapunzel to cheer up. Maybe her dad got someone to chew her food for her. We're now at the banquet, which, God, I love a good banquet. Buffet's my favorite food. People are seated at a long table, and we see Eugene, who secretly pulls out the engagement ring, looks at it, then puts it back in his pocket. Just before a child splashes food on his face, he's surrounded by babies, a decision made by Cassandra and her seating chart. Rapunzel is sitting with her parents, and the king asks why she's so upset. She can do whatever she wants, but he didn't say anything about a battalion tagging along. Right on cue, Eugene gets up for an announcement. He asks the princess to join him and grabs her hand. He says there's no better way to celebrate his love than this, then gets down on one knee and proposes. Oh, that's my awe. Everyone is in absolute shock. He tells her from the moment she knocked him out with the frying pan, he was in love. And he wants to spend the rest of his life with her in the kingdom of Corona. Rapunzel immediately questions staying in this castle forever and starts to have what can only be considered a panic attack. She always feels watched. She always feels trapped. And she doesn't know if this is life for her. And with that, she tells Eugene she loves him, but she can't. Not now. Harsh. Getting turned down for proposing must suck. Yeah, that must suck. She says she needs some air and leaves. Back in Rapunzel's bedroom, Cassandra sits on the edge of the bed while Rapunzel paces. She loves Eugene and she wants to marry him someday, but not like this. She needs to get out and clear her head without a fleet of guards. And so Cassandra says, say no more. We're now in Cassandra's room. She opens her closet and reveals a bunch of knives and swords. When your dad is the captain of the guards, you tend to collect stuff. Rapunzel pulls a hooded cloak and tells Froggy Pascal to stay behind. It's not a frog. And make sure no one realizes she's gone. It's now a bit later. Eugene tries to enter Rapunzel's room, but the guards have orders to not let anyone inside. Eugene decides to trade his shoes to the guards for a chance to enter her now dark room. Eugene calls out her name as Pascal the Frog. Pascal? Pasquale? It's not a frog! Hides behind the dressing screen, putting on a fake puppet show of Rapunzel by using a light from the candle. It's very impressive, and of course, Eugene falls for it, thinking it's her. He apologizes for putting her on the spot. He just wants to marry her, and he loves her. He knows she's not ready to say it back yet, but they have something amazing, and tonight he tried to keep it that way and thought that's what she wanted. But maybe he guessed he was wrong. He tells her just to say something, anything, because of course the fake Pascal is not speaking. Then her head falls off. Eugene gasps and realizes it's just Pascal pretending to be her. He wants to know where she went, because if the king finds out, they're all going to be in some serious trouble. Eugene and Pascal walk out of the room to fix the situation. We're now in a castle cell. Four guys sit in front of a sign that reads Apple Pies. One of the thugs says, all right, you got us down here. What's this plan of yours? We see it's the guy who was with Lady Kane earlier. His name is Pocket. He says it was her plan that 18 years ago, the princess was taken from Corona, and it was because of her that the king unfairly cracked down on all those he considered undesirable, which is all of them. Pocket continues, Lady Kane promises to not only make everyone rich, but she's offering the opportunity to exact revenge on the king and his precious little princess. So who's in? We're now somewhere hidden in the castle. Cassandra reveals a hidden fireplace and Rapunzel yells, is that a secret passage? And Cassandra sarcastically says, well, it was before you announced it to the entire castle. And when she turns around, Rapunzel has already crawled through. Elsewhere in the castle, Eugene is looking for Rapunzel, calling out her name, opening doors. The king is confused. Why is he doing this, and where is Rapunzel? Eugene covers for her, saying she's in a room, and the king is happy about that because he needs to talk to her. A now panicked Eugene stops him.

He can't go see her, but then realizes how shady that sounded and changes his tune. Okay, yeah, you can go see her. He can do whatever he wants. He's the king. But she did say she needed some time alone, and he was just trying to respect that. The king agrees. Maybe she does need some time to herself. Eugene tries to bring up the proposal, but the king suggests they talk about that way later. And God, I could just I just want Clancy Brown to do everything in voice in my house just so I can just listen to Clancy talk all the time. You know, he's great. 00:29:04 Speaker 2: It was so good. 00:29:05 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was great. We're now out in the town. Rapunzel and Cassandra are sneaking around, barely avoiding the nightly patrol. Just in time, Rapunzel and Cassandra's horses show up and they all cross the lake on a boat. While in the castle, Rapunzel's parents are sitting in their room talking about their daughter's struggles. The queen says, and this is where I'm so glad that Julie Bowen started to talk because until this scene, her mom didn't say anything. And I was like, did they not cast the mother? Like I thought, oh my, are they just going to have her mom next door? But I, yeah, I thought for some reason I was like, why is the mom not speaking? Did they not cast her? They're just going to have her there quiet the whole time. So when she started talking, I was like, oh, thank God. And it's Julie Bowen. So I was like, okay, good. 00:29:40 Speaker 2: Yeah, but they also were not big characters in any way. 00:29:45 Speaker 1: Right, right. The queen says she needs some space, but her dad insists he must prepare her to be queen one day. Then he has a flashback to when she was kidnapped and he quickly locks the balcony doors to protect her, which was just such a sad scene. Yeah. Out in the woods, Rapunzel starts singing a song called The Wind in My Hair while running through waterfalls and befriending some wolves. This song is about Rapunzel's desire for freedom and adventure before settling down. By the way, this song does later become the opening theme for the TV series. So did we like this song? Does this seem like this is a good theme song? I liked it. I think I liked the first one better. I thought the first one was more Disney than this one, but I still liked it. That first one is so... And maybe it's the visuals of walking through the village and everybody. It's so Disney that it just gives you that vibe. Once the song ends, they've reached a bridge, but Max, Rapunzel's horse, refuses to cross over. He senses something is wrong. Rapunzel lets the horses stay behind while the girls cross over by themselves, even though she has no idea why they traveled all this way. Cassandra promises it's better for Rapunzel to see for herself and then reveals some sort of spikes. Rapunzel's impressed by their beauty, but has no clue what they are. Cassandra says she doesn't know, but they appeared a year ago and they're unbreakable. She even uses a sword

to try to chop them, but nothing happens, which I thought was weird. I was like, I get what you're doing, but now you don't have a sword. Cass also notes that this is where they found the miracle flower that saved her mom. Rapunzel touches one of the spikes and it explodes, forcing Rapunzel and Cass to go flying. Rapunzel shakes herself off and notices she now has a blonde glowing strand of hair. Uh-oh. Then a bunch of menacing spikes start sprouting up. The girls run. Cassandra yells at Rapunzel to not even look back, but as they make it to the horses, she notices her hair is growing at a rapid speed, and it's all blonde again. With spikes popping up everywhere, the bridge is about to collapse, and the now incredibly long hair of Rapunzel gets caught on the bridge itself. Cass tries to help, but she is stuck, all while the bridge is falling apart around them, and more spikes are popping up everywhere. And then just when all else seems doomed... Boom! Max the horse jumps across the bridge and releases her hair just in time. And I was like, if they sacrifice this horse, I'm shutting this off. 00:31:51 Speaker 2: He's like my favorite character in these movies, by the way. You have to see the first one to understand. He has so much sass and he's so good. 00:31:59 Speaker 1: I gotta see it. Yeah, because I gotta see this guy. The girls now stand on the only remaining and very small piece of the bridge and even that's about to fall. Max and Rapunzel jump across and land safely on the other side while Cass grabs onto Rapunzel's hair and lifts herself up the cliffside. But now there's an even bigger problem. How is Rapunzel going to explain 70 feet of blonde hair to her dad? It's now daytime and they race back to the castle only to find extra security around the perimeter because of the coronation. And this is just my story, where my story goes, my head. Why can't you tell your dad you woke up and you had 70 feet of blonde hair again? Like, you don't know how it happened either. Like, I don't know what happened either, dad. 00:32:37 Speaker 2: You have to understand, too, she's not seen her dad. until like three or four months prior to this. 00:32:43 Speaker 1: Six months, yeah. 00:32:44 Speaker 2: She's not comfortable saying like, I screwed up. 00:32:47 Speaker 1: I didn't do that. 00:32:48 Speaker 2: Like this is not the relationship that they have. 00:32:51 Speaker 1: Right, right, right. Gotcha. But it's still. It's your dad. Just lie. You can't. 00:32:58 Speaker 2: She's got 70 feet. 00:32:59 Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. No, but just lie and say, I woke up and I don't know why this, I don't know how this happened. Maybe it has something to do with my coronation day. Maybe something's going on, but I went to bed last night with short hair. I woke up. It looks like this, Pop. I have no idea what the hell's going on. Easy. Boom. Lie your way out of it. They need to find another way inside. So Max releases some guards from their duty and enters

Rapunzel's room while her and Cass climb her hair and enter through a window. Rapunzel immediately wants Cassandra to cut her hair, but when she tries, the scissors break. The hair has never been this strong, so they try again, but nothing. They're using swords, machetes, knives. The hair looks like those rocks that they were just running from, those spikes. It is completely unbreakable. Crazy. Yeah, nuts. And that's when Eugene knocks on the door. Cass tells Rapunzel that Eugene can't see her or know anything about last night, or else the king will take her off princess detail and they'll never see each other again. So Rapunzel agrees to keep it secret just as Eugene barges in and sees the blonde hair Urwer. He freaks out a little and wants to know how this happened, but she just thanks him for understanding. Then her mom, the queen, tries to enter, but Pascal closes the door. By the way, I think you can open the door if it's just being held closed by a frog. And it's not a frog. And Rapunzel says she's brushing her teeth. Her mom and dad want her to join them for breakfast on the terrace, but Rapunzel says there's a lot to do to get ready. Her mom reveals they have something very important to tell her and that her dad has been waiting all night. Rapunzel asks him for a minute and has no idea how she's going to cut her hair before the coronation in just two hours, but Cassandra has an idea. A little later, during breakfast on the terrace, we see Rapunzel has hidden all of her hair in this ridiculous, huge, large, heavy Marie Antoinette wig, which an earlier royal had told her was the bigger the wig, the higher the royalty. Her dad knows everything, is so new and different than what she's used to. He knows she wishes he would just get out of her hair. Hmm. But she's going to be queen one day, and this world can be evil and dangerous. It's his job to protect Corona, and one day it will be her responsibility too. But that's many years away, and she needs to trust that he can keep danger away. His efforts may seem strict or even unfair, but he's willing to reconsider those methods. She says she can work with that and then heads off to get ready. Later in the castle, Cass is sewing a dress for Rapunzel, and Eugene is pacing back and forth, keeping himself busy by whistling Ode to Joy. But then he cracks. What is going on? He knows Cassandra doesn't like him for Rapunzel and she admits she doesn't like him for anyone. He just wants what's best for Rapunzel and Cassandra is unimpressed with him, calling him selfish before she eventually leaves the room. We're back in Rapunzel's bedroom, still in that big, huge wig. Her mom walks in and gives her a gift. It's her journal from before she met the king. She was just like Rapunzel and she eventually found her own way. Rapunzel will be queen one day and she'll get to decide what kind of queen she'll be. No one can tell her how to make that decision. Rapunzel's mom tells her to find a way to fill those pages,

but says, be safe, be smart, and above all, be true to yourself. Very good words of wisdom. And now it's time for the big coronation. In a back room, Cass tells Rapunzel to relax. Everything will be fine. But while they're waiting, Pocket and his evil henchmen are in a nearby cell plotting out their revenge. Pocket tells his crew not to worry. Lady Kane will be there to free him. She does not disappoint. Just then, Rapunzel enters the ceremony and fumbles just a little bit along the way, obviously trying to balance that massive wig on her head. One woman stands next to Eugene, calls it embarrassing, and leaves. We follow her down the hallway. She opens a map and shyly asks the guard if they can help her. She must have taken a wrong turn somewhere. One guard offers to guide her, but then she attacks him. It must be, that's right, it's bad lady Kane. She knocks them out and finds Pocket and the henchman's jail cell key and As a guard tries to stop her, once again they're freed. It's now seven against one, so the guard just drops his sword. It's actually not a sword. It was a halibard. It's the big staff with the thing. 00:36:44 Speaker 3: Anyway. 00:36:45 Speaker 2: Okay. 00:36:46 Speaker 1: It's not a halibard. We're back at the coronation. The ceremony has begun. Pascal sees a guard enter and lock the door, so he motions to Cass. Something might be up. She sees another man posing as a guard and tells Pascal to go get Maxx. She then motions to Eugene, who immediately recognizes the fake guard. Just then a voice yells, attention, please. And Eugene recognizes this is the evil Lady Kane. She enters with her posse and everyone screams and scatters. Then they try to escape, but the doors are locked. The king demands they release his guests, but Lady Kane says this is all Rapunzel's fault. She says after her untimely disappearance, her father locked up every criminal in the kingdom, including a simple petty thief, her father. She watched him get thrown into a cage and and hauled off like some animal, never to be seen again. So she thought she'd come back and return the favor. She instructs the men to load all of the guests and the king and queen into a caged train car, which appears. Rapunzel watches all this unfold, and just as they're about to leave, she apologizes to her dad. She can't just stay put. With that, she removes the wig, revealing her 70 feet of hair and demanding everyone be let go. Rapunzel throws her hair at the cage and breaks open the door. This obviously does not sit well with the bad lady Kane, and she starts getting pretty angry. Rapunzel replies, good, because I'm just getting started. The king can't believe his daughter's hair, but Rapunzel's focused on saving everyone's life. Thanks, dad. She runs off and says they'll talk about it later. Eugene and Cass help fight off the evil men while guards are trying to break through the door. Rapunzel uses her hair to save the guests and even uses a frying pan to knock someone out. A reference to her original meet cute with Eugene. Meet cute frying pan. It's a new one. Eugene is in full battle mode as is Cass, still fighting off Lady Kane, who is eventually cornered. By the way, these were great animated fight scenes. They looked really cool together. Flipping around and everything was pretty awesome. Lady Kane isn't concerned, promising that Rapunzel has no idea who she's dealing with. She breaks away and heads for the door, promising she'll be back. But just then, Max and the guards break down the door and they all land squashing Lady Kane. I'm like, wow, they just showed a murder. It's like, yeah, she looked like she died. Everyone cheers, of course, as the bad guys are all arrested and taken away. The queen embraces Rapunzel. She's so thankful that she's safe. Her dad watches on, and he's looking very angry. Once everyone leaves, Rapunzel tries to explain everything to him. She did sneak out, touched a mysterious rock, and that's what caused her hair to return. She knows he's angry, but she's okay. He then gets very serious. He loves her so much. The night she was taken, a part of him died. The best part of him. For 18 long and agonizing years, he swore that if she ever returned, he would never let anything like that happen to her again. And now that her hair has returned, the very reason she was snatched away from him in the first place, he's left with no choice but to exercise his martial right as king to forbid her from leaving the walls of the kingdom without his consent rapunzel tells him there's so much more to her than he thinks then runs out crying and i'd be like dude i just spent 18 years my life in a tower i'm not doing it again. 00:39:38 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah how do you not see that how do you not understand that i. 00:39:42 Speaker 1: Know In Rapunzel's bedroom, Eugene knocks on the door and offers her a cupcake. He apologizes for putting her on the spot with that proposal. She admits storming out of the room wasn't the best reaction, duh, and apologizes too. He doesn't know why she said no, but promises he'll do everything he can until he does, which was a great line. Rapunzel thanks him and asks him to promise her one thing, that he'll be patient with her. He says, absolutely. And then they finally kiss. He leaves her to sing Wind in My Hair again while looking out the window and on her balcony, the title reappears and that's our move. Oh, wait, it's not over. We see some gloves push some bushes off to the side, revealing some more magical stones. And then our movie ends. Sabrina, can we do some real reviews? 00:40:29 Speaker 2: Absolutely. We got a five star. 00:40:32 Speaker 1: Yeah, it is. 00:40:34 Speaker 2: Look, I know I'm not the target audience, but let's appreciate the 2D animation in this current economy. I find this very watchable and recommend this to everyone. Much better than anything on YouTube, like Salish Matter or Matter and Rebecca Romolo. 00:40:57 Speaker 1: I don't know what those are.

Salish Fatter and Rebecca Romolo. Okay. Yeah. 00:41:01 Speaker 2: Okay. Well. 00:41:02 Speaker 1: Thanks, Woodrulio. And I, of course, have the one star, which I love. And this is from Coco Gumball, which I don't even need to read what it is because that's like my favorite name, Coco Gumball. It's unbelievable how this sequel was even approved to go into production. I am okay with low-budget movies. I can even understand creators trying to save on CGI by creating animation that we used to see 20 years ago. But come on, the script? I think it was written in one weekend, and I doubt it was a long weekend. Completely toothless, zero humor, disappointed. So Woodruil thinks the animation cost less money, and Coco thinks it was more, and Woodruil hates those YouTube creators, and I don't know what's happening. I don't know. But we are, of course, now to Sabrina's favorite part of our story, of our wonderful podcast here, and that is our feature game. Who are we playing with today? 00:41:50 Speaker 3: You have Michaela. 00:41:52 Speaker 1: All right, Michaela. Well, today's game is called Going to Record Lengths. Rapunzel, as a cultural icon, has withstood the test of time, mostly as a reference for having very long hair. Well, that's, I think, kind of what she's known for. Some might even say world record hair. Oh, I see where this is going. We're going to be given a world record total for a living person. Okay, so it's for a living person. And we have to decide if the actual record is shorter or longer. Three out of five wins. Okay. Okay, I get what they're saying. Okay. So number one, longest fingernails. Longer or shorter than 33 feet? Shorter. Longer. 00:42:36 Speaker 3: Yes, longer, 42 feet, 10 inches. 00:42:39 Speaker 1: It's the guy from India, right? Who carries them in the bag that are all wrapped up. I've seen them. 00:42:43 Speaker 3: I've seen that one, but no, Diana Armstrong of Minnesota has not cut her nails since 1997 as a tribute to her late daughter. 00:42:51 Speaker 1: Wow. I thought it was that guy. Okay. Wow. Incredible. Largest shoe size. We all know it's a 10. And we just, we can just stick with that. No, larger or smaller than size 23. That can't be right. There's a size 23? I'm going to do shorter. I'm going to do shorter, too. Yeah, smaller. 00:43:17 Speaker 3: Larger, size 26. 00:43:20 Speaker 1: Oh, my God. 00:43:20 Speaker 3: Hernandez of Venezuela. 00:43:23 Speaker 1: Did they say how tall he is? 00:43:25 Speaker 3: No. I can look it up. 00:43:26 Speaker 2: How does he have shoes? Like, even, like, a girl. Like, I have a girlfriend who has a size 13. She has to get, like, most of her heels, like, specially ordered like how do you have. 00:43:36 Speaker 1: You might he must have I bet you there's two things I know but who pays for that he has to have his shoes made by somebody and his girlfriend is gorgeous those are the two things I'm convinced he's 7 foot 3 oh my god he's 7 foot 3 like. 00:43:51 Speaker 2: Who pays for that because like you're talking about like flip flops ugh so sad I'm so sad for him. 00:43:58 Speaker 1: How about the longest hair longer or shorter than 7 feet 7 inches longer I think Jensen's doing one of these things. Yeah, let's say longer. Longer. 00:44:07 Speaker 3: 8 feet 10 inches. Renew of India. She hasn't cut her hair since 2015. 00:44:13 Speaker 2: Anyone that has a weave in their hair, it comes from India. Those women have the most gorgeous hair. And they grow and grow. 00:44:23 Speaker 1: Here we go. Number three. Excuse me. Number four. Longest eyelash. Yikes. Longer or shorter than 9.5 inches. 00:44:33 Speaker 2: I'm going to do shorter. That's crazy. 00:44:36 Speaker 1: Longer. I mean shorter. Shorter. Shorter. 00:44:40 Speaker 3: Eight inches. 00:44:40 Speaker 1: That's so crazy. 00:44:41 Speaker 2: Don't you piggyback off me. You are a firm believer. If I say something, you do not go with. 00:44:47 Speaker 1: Eight inches is a lot. 00:44:49 Speaker 2: Eight inches is still wild. 00:44:51 Speaker 1: I know. Okay. The longest arm. Longer or shorter than six feet two inches. Oh, my God. I think it's longer. Shorter. If we're going to do 35 feet. 00:45:03 Speaker 2: Longer. 00:45:04 Speaker 1: Shorter. Longer. 00:45:06 Speaker 3: Eight feet, two and a half inches for one arm. Muhammad of Egypt. His sister has the all-female records for her arms, too. 00:45:14 Speaker 1: Oh, my God. So, is he over eight feet tall, or do they run on the ground? 00:45:21 Speaker 2: He's the one from the first one that says, like, you know, these people. Wow. It's wild. Like, could you imagine... More than 33 feet of nail? 00:45:34 Speaker 1: No. 00:45:35 Speaker 3: He's seven feet, so. 00:45:39 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:45:40 Speaker 3: Sorry. 00:45:40 Speaker 2: Yeah, but we have, like, NBA stars. And if they, like, continued to grow their nails, it'd be weird. 00:45:47 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know. That's nuts. Okay, well, thank you so much. I think we won, technically. Loving that. Thank you, Michaela. And, of course, can we do a Sabrina Seas, please? 00:46:02 Speaker 2: We absolutely can. And honestly, my Sabrina C's are from Monroe. So today is Monroe C's. And she looked at me about three or four minutes into it and looked up and we've got, like I said, I set it all out. We had blankets on top of the couch and extra pillows and popcorn. And we're just hanging out. We're in our jammies. About five, six minutes, we're all settled in. And she goes, it's okay, mommy. And I said, what's okay? And she goes, these are obviously different people. This is not the original. 00:46:39 Speaker 1: Oh, so she called it. 00:46:41 Speaker 2: And I said, what do you mean different people? I go, it's the same voice. And she goes, well, I don't know, but they're different. They're different. This is not the same. This is obviously not the same. It's okay. 00:46:52 Speaker 1: Don't tell Ledger. 00:46:54 Speaker 2: We don't want Ledger here. Will, she stumped me. I didn't know

what to say. I was like, I don't know what to say. At this point, I went, okay, would you like some more popcorn maybe? Can I get you a juice? Would you like apple or pink lemonade? I was just, I don't know. By the way, this 60 minute for you, Will, it was a two hour event. 00:47:16 Speaker 1: I didn't want it. 00:47:18 Speaker 2: It was a two hour event. Now Monroe is invested and needs to like rewind. And she goes, no, is that the same horse? And I'm like, yes, it is, baby. Like, I mean, we just had this whole back and forth. And then she said at the end of the movie, that's it. And I said, well, you know, I go, you know, Uncle Will, who you don't really know. But he told me that this is like maybe like a series. And she goes, OK, that makes sense, because this is a terrible second movie. 00:47:45 Speaker 1: That's it. And I felt the same. 00:47:48 Speaker 2: I felt the same. But this was a pilot to become what? 00:47:52 Speaker 1: So this was a back. This was a backdoor pilot for the show. for the Tangled series, because they did 60 episodes of a series on Tangled. Okay. So this was a bridge between the original Tangled movie and the series Tangled. 00:48:04 Speaker 2: Okay. 00:48:05 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:48:05 Speaker 2: Like, I told her, I said, Uncle Will said there's more. I just don't know if it's happening right now. 00:48:10 Speaker 1: Oh, no, no, it's on. I think you can, it's already aired. Oh, perfect. So she can watch the whole series. 00:48:14 Speaker 2: She goes, Mommy, they didn't even get married. What's going on? 00:48:17 Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. She's got to watch it. 00:48:19 Speaker 2: She's such a girl. They didn't even get married. I didn't get the big wedding. So anyway. It was a fun watch for me. Like, really fun with the kids. And Ledger, actually, he's my little monster. And he actually sat through the whole thing. 00:48:35 Speaker 1: Oh, that's good. 00:48:36 Speaker 2: Nice. 00:48:37 Speaker 1: Well, let's see. We know they liked it. Let's see if you did, because now is going to come the time where we're scoring. We're going to score our wonderful DCOM this week, people. We've got our option. Let's do 1 to 10. Let's do 1 the least, 10 the most. Yeah, we'll do that. The options this week are 1 to 10 extremely short DCOMs. 1 to 10 white people problems. 00:48:57 Speaker 3: Okay. 00:48:57 Speaker 1: Shadow puppet shows. 1 to 10 apple pies. Apple misspelled. 1 to 10 friendly wolves. 1 to 10 frying pan meat cutes. And 1 to 10 fake out endings. I'd like to add 1 to 10 just lie to your dads. And I get to pick this week. And I'm going to pick one to ten. No, I'm going to go with extremely short decoms because they are really short. Yeah. And I went first last time. So tell me, what did you think of this? 00:49:26 Speaker 2: I liked it. It was a great night. This movie was a fun addition to the tangle that you know. I am doing eight extremely short decoms. 00:49:39 Speaker 1: I am exactly where you are, which is eight extremely short decoms. I felt exactly the way you did. It is an easy watch. It's a fun watch. The acting was great. I liked the songs. It was very Disney. And again, I might be biased for this movie because all my friends were in it, but I'm also biased for this movie because after all the stuff I've been watching, having something that was 55 minutes was pretty magical. So I was very, very. 00:50:05 Speaker 2: Happy with that. It was so easy. It's an easy watch. Like the storyline is easy to follow. It's all good. It's all good. Yeah, yeah. 00:50:14 Speaker 1: No, I couldn't agree with you more. It was fun. It made me want to, and I think this is, this should show you how much I like this movie. It made me want to go back and watch Tangle. So, I mean, that's, if I finished this and I didn't like it, I'd be like, I don't need to go back and watch this movie. But I do. I want to go back. But you don't have to wait for our next one. I'm kidding. You do. Our next recap, Sabrina, get ready. We've got a big one. It's time to jump into the 2003 theatrically released family comedy, the third film. Yes. Another reboot because it's been rebooted three times. It's Freaky Friday. 00:50:47 Speaker 3: Yes. 00:50:47 Speaker 1: The Jamie Lee Curtis, Lindsay Lohan version is currently available. 00:50:50 Speaker 2: On Disney +. We're jumping to the third one? 00:50:52 Speaker 1: Apparently. I haven't seen it. I haven't seen any of them. So this is, let's see how freaky this Friday is. I take that back. I think I saw the original one was What, the 60s or the 70s was the first freaking Friday, right? It's so good. 00:51:02 Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw that one. 00:51:03 Speaker 1: I saw that one as a kid. So I can't wait to see this one. I'm a big Jamie Lee Curtis fan. She's great, so I can't wait to watch it. It is right now available on Disney +, so feel free to be productive. Jump ahead, do your homework, people. And as always, make sure to subscribe to the dedicated Magical Rewind feed, and so you never miss anything, any of our interviews, any of that stuff, but also... Sabrina's incredible bonus show, Once Upon a Headline. All your Disney news is at Sabrina's fingertips. So go and listen to that. It is totally worth it. It is your weekly update on everything Disney related in the news. Thanks everybody for joining us. We'll talk to you next time. Bye.