Full Transcript for Remembering and Embodying Your Divine Self with Jennifer Spor

00:02:29.400 --> 00:02:32.800 always say purpose with a capital P, because it's something 35 00:02:32.919 --> 00:02:37.120 that I believe we all know what it is inside 36 00:02:37.120 --> 00:02:39.479 of us, and we're all here to discover it. We're 37 00:02:39.520 --> 00:02:43.879 striving to reach that point. But I find that if 38 00:02:43.879 --> 00:02:48.960 we're coming from a place of triggering or fear, it's 39 00:02:49.080 --> 00:02:52.520 just not going to unfold. It just won't. So the 40 00:02:52.560 --> 00:02:55.199 first step really is doing the inner work. So that 41 00:02:55.280 --> 00:02:59.199 you can do your purpose from a pure, intentional place. 42 00:02:59.840 --> 00:03:02.360 That's what she's going to talk about. She's also going 43 00:03:02.400 --> 00:03:06.879 to talk about what she refers to as her over soul, 44 00:03:07.240 --> 00:03:09.639 and I'll have her explain what that means in case 45 00:03:10.120 --> 00:03:14.039 people out there don't know. And she's devoted to the 46 00:03:14.120 --> 00:03:19.719 lived realization of divine design in physical form. I love 47 00:03:19.759 --> 00:03:24.240 that phrase. It's perfect. She works with women, and I'm 48 00:03:24.280 --> 00:03:26.639 going to find out why that is. I can pretty 49 00:03:26.680 --> 00:03:31.680 much tell, but I'll ask. She works with women who 50 00:03:31.719 --> 00:03:35.479 are no longer seeking awakening as a method, but are 51 00:03:35.560 --> 00:03:39.560 ready to inhabit who they already are. In other words, 52 00:03:39.719 --> 00:03:41.840 we're awake, and what do we do with it? 53 00:03:44.080 --> 00:03:44.120 She? 54 00:03:44.919 --> 00:03:45.039 Uh? 55 00:03:45.159 --> 00:03:48.960 What else about her? She helps people to tangibly live, lead, 56 00:03:49.039 --> 00:03:53.560 and create from inner authority, coherence and truth. Rather than 57 00:03:53.639 --> 00:03:58.360 teaching systems or guiding others through stages of initiation or 58 00:03:58.400 --> 00:04:03.840 dealing with their inner stuff. Jennifer's work functions through presence 59 00:04:03.960 --> 00:04:06.439 and resonance, and she does all kinds of things that 60 00:04:06.479 --> 00:04:09.719 she's going to explain. And one of the things that 61 00:04:10.000 --> 00:04:12.840 she reminds all of us about, and I just have 62 00:04:12.879 --> 00:04:15.680 to say it in the beginning, she reminds us that 63 00:04:15.759 --> 00:04:20.639 we have all been sent here to remember, return and 64 00:04:20.759 --> 00:04:26.560 embody who we truly are, an anchor spiritual realization into 65 00:04:26.600 --> 00:04:31.000 a tangible, embodied life. In other words, we just can't 66 00:04:31.040 --> 00:04:35.319 sit around on the mountaintop anymore her navel. We got 67 00:04:35.319 --> 00:04:40.160 to do something with it, especially now, really now, So welcome, Jennifer. 68 00:04:40.160 --> 00:04:42.480 I'm so honored to have you here. 69 00:04:43.120 --> 00:04:46.680 Royce, thank you so much. I am super grateful to 70 00:04:46.759 --> 00:04:49.879 be here, and thank you just so much for the 71 00:04:49.920 --> 00:04:50.759 warm welcome. 72 00:04:51.439 --> 00:04:53.439 Oh gosh, well you deserve it. 73 00:04:55.160 --> 00:04:55.240 So. 74 00:04:55.480 --> 00:04:59.240 First of all, I always like to have my guests 75 00:04:59.639 --> 00:05:01.759 give us a little bit of their background. How did 76 00:05:01.759 --> 00:05:05.199 you get started in this what's your story? How did 77 00:05:05.240 --> 00:05:06.720 it unfold in your life? 78 00:05:07.439 --> 00:05:07.839 Yeah? 79 00:05:07.920 --> 00:05:11.600 Absolutely so, like so many others of us, right, I 80 00:05:11.639 --> 00:05:14.240 had a whole of our life before this one. 81 00:05:14.920 --> 00:05:15.959 I have been. 82 00:05:16.000 --> 00:05:20.720 Focused on this work full time for about ten years now. 83 00:05:21.199 --> 00:05:26.240 I've been consciously focused on my own journey of evolution here, 84 00:05:26.360 --> 00:05:32.519 for gosh, probably closer to seventeen years now. So before 85 00:05:33.160 --> 00:05:38.360 I got in to this work, I worked in the 86 00:05:38.360 --> 00:05:43.279 retail industry for gosh, probably I mean over twenty three years, 87 00:05:43.360 --> 00:05:49.519 probably closer to twenty four years, and I loved what 88 00:05:49.639 --> 00:05:54.000 I did for a long time, and I was one 89 00:05:54.000 --> 00:05:58.040 of those people who I started out as a sales 90 00:05:58.079 --> 00:06:03.040 associate at nineteen. You know, I had a very conscious 91 00:06:03.279 --> 00:06:07.279 conversation with myself at the age of nineteen because when 92 00:06:07.360 --> 00:06:09.639 I was a little girl and pretty much growing up 93 00:06:09.680 --> 00:06:11.839 as a kid, I always wanted to be a teacher, 94 00:06:12.720 --> 00:06:16.680 and I was on my own, and I thought, you 95 00:06:16.720 --> 00:06:19.879 know what, do I want to pay all the money 96 00:06:19.920 --> 00:06:21.800 that I'm going to have to pay and go into 97 00:06:21.839 --> 00:06:27.879 debt and go to college and pursue traditional academia, or I. 98 00:06:28.000 --> 00:06:31.040 Just started this great job that I'm really loving and 99 00:06:31.399 --> 00:06:32.480 am I going to follow that? 100 00:06:32.839 --> 00:06:35.839 And so even at the age of nineteen, right I was, 101 00:06:36.040 --> 00:06:38.279 I was like, I'm going to, you know, see where 102 00:06:38.319 --> 00:06:43.079 this retail thing goes, so, you know, toward the end 103 00:06:43.079 --> 00:06:46.519 of my career, so basically, I worked my way up, 104 00:06:47.000 --> 00:06:49.519 really enjoyed what I was doing for a long time, 105 00:06:49.879 --> 00:06:52.399 and toward the end of my career before I began 106 00:06:52.439 --> 00:06:57.160 to transition into this work, I was a director of 107 00:06:57.240 --> 00:07:00.319 store operations for a large retail company at the time, 108 00:07:00.360 --> 00:07:03.319

and I oversaw probably about twelve hundred stores. 109 00:07:04.480 --> 00:07:05.720 So I had a. 110 00:07:05.680 --> 00:07:10.120 Really fulfilling career and what happened was I reached the 111 00:07:10.199 --> 00:07:12.959 place where there were no boxes. 112 00:07:13.040 --> 00:07:15.759 There were no more boxes to check off the list. 113 00:07:15.920 --> 00:07:16.160 Right. 114 00:07:16.879 --> 00:07:22.240 I was in my mid to late thirties, and there 115 00:07:22.240 --> 00:07:26.240 were no more promotions. There wasn't anything else that I 116 00:07:26.279 --> 00:07:29.759 felt like I had yet to have experienced. And that's 117 00:07:29.800 --> 00:07:32.279 really when I like to say, the fog was starting 118 00:07:32.319 --> 00:07:35.199 to lift, you know, because I had checked off the 119 00:07:35.240 --> 00:07:39.040 boxes of what traditional society tells us we need to 120 00:07:39.160 --> 00:07:45.959 follow this chronological path and path right to achieve success. 121 00:07:46.639 --> 00:07:51.759 And so I really just started contemplating, you know, what 122 00:07:51.839 --> 00:07:54.480 was next for me When I thought there wouldn't be 123 00:07:54.560 --> 00:07:55.279 anything else. 124 00:07:55.360 --> 00:07:58.199 I thought I would be at that job and that 125 00:07:58.279 --> 00:07:58.800 I would. 126 00:07:58.680 --> 00:08:02.959 Retire, and important to mention, I am you know gen X, Right. 127 00:08:03.040 --> 00:08:06.360 So I come from a generation where we're taught to 128 00:08:06.639 --> 00:08:10.519 believe that staying in the same career and job for 129 00:08:10.639 --> 00:08:13.680 most of your life is what you need to do. 130 00:08:14.439 --> 00:08:18.480 And so that and of itself was a huge kind 131 00:08:18.480 --> 00:08:23.079 of revelatory thing, because it's like when you don't think 132 00:08:23.360 --> 00:08:25.800 that there's going to be anything else, than what else 133 00:08:25.920 --> 00:08:32.720 is there? So the gateway to opening myself up to 134 00:08:32.840 --> 00:08:37.440 this awakening and to everything that I ended up experiencing 135 00:08:38.039 --> 00:08:46.279 after that was really due to meditation. So I had 136 00:08:46.320 --> 00:08:48.559 to say, it's another story and of itself, but I've 137 00:08:48.600 --> 00:08:50.639 always been very sensitive. 138 00:08:50.840 --> 00:08:52.120 Okay, and. 139 00:08:53.840 --> 00:08:57.879 I felt guided to meditation. It felt really natural to 140 00:08:58.000 --> 00:09:02.039 do it, and it was really committing to a daily, 141 00:09:02.360 --> 00:09:06.279 seven day a week practice was really the key to 142 00:09:06.919 --> 00:09:12.519 unlocking everything. It really brought me in deeper connection with 143 00:09:12.639 --> 00:09:17.039 the truth of who I was and to really figure 144 00:09:17.080 --> 00:09:20.679 out what I was being called to. And I want 145 00:09:20.679 --> 00:09:25.759 to say that, you know, I didn't meditate one day 146 00:09:25.759 --> 00:09:28.320 and it came to me this whole life that I 147 00:09:28.360 --> 00:09:31.080 was living, and so I took action. It didn't exactly 148 00:09:31.200 --> 00:09:34.240 unfold like that, so to continue on right I was 149 00:09:34.360 --> 00:09:40.039 meditating for a few months feeling stronger and stronger feelings around, Wow, 150 00:09:40.200 --> 00:09:43.399 this life I'm in right now is not for me anymore. 151 00:09:43.679 --> 00:09:47.440 And despite those feelings, I did not take action at 152 00:09:47.480 --> 00:09:56.120 the time because of fear. I was questioning myself around, well, 153 00:09:56.320 --> 00:09:59.480 I have this established career, what would happen if I 154 00:09:59.600 --> 00:10:03.480 left it? And how would I make money? And all 155 00:10:03.559 --> 00:10:07.279 of the things that come from being conditioned in the 156 00:10:07.360 --> 00:10:10.840 societal programming that you can only achieve success in your 157 00:10:10.879 --> 00:10:11.759 life in. 158 00:10:11.519 --> 00:10:12.240 A certain way. 159 00:10:12.600 --> 00:10:16.600 And I also didn't follow the traditional path of academia either. 160 00:10:17.639 --> 00:10:20.480 I didn't have a college degree, so all of those 161 00:10:20.639 --> 00:10:23.279 questions came up, you know, where else would I go? 162 00:10:23.840 --> 00:10:27.200 So I didn't take action, and it was probably another 163 00:10:27.360 --> 00:10:31.039 year year and a half passed, and then my mother 164 00:10:31.559 --> 00:10:35.399 at the time was diagnosed with terminal cancer. And at 165 00:10:35.399 --> 00:10:38.159 the time I was living in the Northeast and she 166 00:10:39.039 --> 00:10:43.039 was living in Idaho, And so during that time, I 167 00:10:43.120 --> 00:10:48.759 was flying back and forth a lot, trying to manage 168 00:10:48.799 --> 00:10:53.080 this career that I was in a high level leadership role, 169 00:10:53.399 --> 00:10:55.159 and it took up a lot of my time and 170 00:10:55.279 --> 00:11:01.279 energy quite franquently and managing that and trying to be 171 00:11:01.360 --> 00:11:04.440 helpful for my family and to spend time with my mom. 172 00:11:05.000 --> 00:11:07.840 And there was this one profound moment that. 173 00:11:07.840 --> 00:11:11.039 I remember as clearly as if it were yesterday, where 174 00:11:11.159 --> 00:11:15.720 I was in Idaho in her apartment. It was just 175 00:11:15.759 --> 00:11:18.960 a few days before she transitioned, and I was sitting 176 00:11:19.039 --> 00:11:24.559 next to her bedside, and my phone started, you know, ringing, 177 00:11:24.759 --> 00:11:29.480 blowing up, going whatever about an issue that was happening, 178 00:11:29.559 --> 00:11:31.720 a fire that needed to be put out in that 179 00:11:31.799 --> 00:11:35.480 now moment with my work, and I remember very clearly 180 00:11:36.240 --> 00:11:39.960 observing that that was happening, looking at my phone, looking 181 00:11:40.000 --> 00:11:42.960

at that, and then looking over at my mom, knowing 182 00:11:43.000 --> 00:11:46.399 that this was probably going to be the last visit, 183 00:11:47.399 --> 00:11:51.039 the last time that I would see her before she passed. 184 00:11:51.080 --> 00:11:56.519 And it was in that moment something clicked and I 185 00:11:56.600 --> 00:12:00.240 decided I was done. I made a vow to myself 186 00:12:00.240 --> 00:12:03.360 in that moment that I had absolutely no idea what 187 00:12:03.559 --> 00:12:05.840 was going to come next. I didn't have any answers 188 00:12:05.840 --> 00:12:08.039 to all the questions I've been asking myself. 189 00:12:08.480 --> 00:12:11.159 All I knew is that I couldn't be where I 190 00:12:11.360 --> 00:12:12.240 was anymore. 191 00:12:12.679 --> 00:12:18.159 That my that inner knowing it was such a strong, 192 00:12:18.440 --> 00:12:24.440 palpable feeling that I just had to move on, And 193 00:12:25.120 --> 00:12:28.480 that was that was the moment. And it wasn't like 194 00:12:28.919 --> 00:12:31.279 I had everything all figured out. 195 00:12:31.320 --> 00:12:34.080 I had nothing figured out. I ended up. 196 00:12:36.799 --> 00:12:42.000 Voluntarily stepping down from my role and I stayed on 197 00:12:42.960 --> 00:12:47.240 with because at the time, listen, at the time, I 198 00:12:47.320 --> 00:12:48.279 wasn't wanting. 199 00:12:48.000 --> 00:12:48.879 To quit my job. 200 00:12:48.960 --> 00:12:52.159 Okay, All I knew is that I couldn't live my 201 00:12:52.240 --> 00:12:55.720 life the same way that I had been and back then, 202 00:12:56.200 --> 00:13:00.960 remote working wasn't a thing, wasn't a culture. So I 203 00:13:01.000 --> 00:13:03.240 had to make a decision, and at the time, I 204 00:13:03.320 --> 00:13:06.279 wanted to move back out to Idaho after my mom 205 00:13:06.399 --> 00:13:09.360 passed to be closer to my family. At the time, 206 00:13:09.399 --> 00:13:12.799 I still had grandparents and I have a younger sister 207 00:13:13.200 --> 00:13:16.600 that lives out here. So I had to make a decision, 208 00:13:16.919 --> 00:13:19.720 and I made the decision that if it came down 209 00:13:19.759 --> 00:13:22.840 to that, then I was going to choose to move 210 00:13:23.679 --> 00:13:24.480 to be closer. 211 00:13:25.240 --> 00:13:26.559 So I did that. 212 00:13:26.679 --> 00:13:30.840 I did stay on with my company for a short 213 00:13:30.840 --> 00:13:35.840 time after that in a consulting capacity, essentially just to 214 00:13:35.879 --> 00:13:38.720 support in wrapping up projects where I had been a 215 00:13:38.759 --> 00:13:39.960 stakeholder before. 216 00:13:40.080 --> 00:13:40.240 Right. 217 00:13:42.320 --> 00:13:45.279 But what ended up happening is, at first I thought, oh, 218 00:13:45.360 --> 00:13:48.080 maybe I just need to get a job with a 219 00:13:48.120 --> 00:13:51.120 new company, right because I had been with my current 220 00:13:51.159 --> 00:13:54.440 company for like sixteen years, maybe that's the answer. 221 00:13:55.240 --> 00:13:56.399 So I was still. 222 00:13:56.159 --> 00:14:00.320 Living in a bit of denial, you know, like my 223 00:14:00.399 --> 00:14:07.080 way along into my purpose into this. But so I 224 00:14:07.120 --> 00:14:12.200 actually even did a few interviews for positions where I 225 00:14:12.240 --> 00:14:15.519 should have been a shoe in, right, But each time 226 00:14:17.000 --> 00:14:19.759 interviews went amazing, but there was always kind of some 227 00:14:20.000 --> 00:14:24.279 strange anomaly that would happen that would end up it 228 00:14:24.360 --> 00:14:27.200 not being the right fit. And so after a couple 229 00:14:27.240 --> 00:14:30.399 of those I started to get the message. You know, 230 00:14:31.039 --> 00:14:35.039 I meant to pursue something else. So I went again 231 00:14:35.120 --> 00:14:39.720 into another deep season of reflection. You know what am 232 00:14:39.960 --> 00:14:43.559 I truly feeling called to do? If I could wake 233 00:14:43.679 --> 00:14:48.559 up every day and commit myself to a path that 234 00:14:48.679 --> 00:14:51.240 my whole heart was invested in, you know what would 235 00:14:51.240 --> 00:14:51.840 that look like? 236 00:14:52.639 --> 00:14:53.960 And so I did that. 237 00:14:54.679 --> 00:14:59.879 And I at the time decided that I wanted to 238 00:15:00.080 --> 00:15:03.120 to start my own business. I wanted to be a 239 00:15:03.200 --> 00:15:06.919 coach at the time, and I wanted to work with 240 00:15:07.080 --> 00:15:11.360 other women who were just a few steps behind me 241 00:15:11.480 --> 00:15:16.159 on the journey, right, who essentially were me, who were 242 00:15:17.519 --> 00:15:22.240 in these leadership roles with their life out of balance 243 00:15:22.639 --> 00:15:30.440 right over, committed, tired, starting to feel burnout, starting to 244 00:15:30.480 --> 00:15:33.399 feel like, you know what else is next, because this 245 00:15:33.480 --> 00:15:36.720 is not it anymore. Those were the women that I 246 00:15:36.799 --> 00:15:41.919 initially started working with. And that's really how the transition happened. 247 00:15:41.960 --> 00:15:46.360 So I had no idea what was going to happen 248 00:15:46.440 --> 00:15:49.279 when I made that decision by my mom's bedside, but 249 00:15:49.559 --> 00:15:54.440 I just did. And it really required me to anchor 250 00:15:54.519 --> 00:15:59.480 myself in the day to day of my life at 251 00:15:59.480 --> 00:16:02.919 that point, right to make those decisions as they were 252 00:16:02.919 --> 00:16:06.440 coming along. Something else I feel guided to share about 253 00:16:06.440 --> 00:16:07.759 this story is that. 254 00:16:10.279 --> 00:16:11.480 Is the story. 255 00:16:11.159 --> 00:16:15.440 About my husband because at the time I was single, 256 00:16:15.639 --> 00:16:20.720 you know, but before any of this even surfaced. 257 00:16:20.159 --> 00:16:21.039 In my life. 258 00:16:22.759 -->

00:16:26.320 I but at a time where I knew I was 259 00:16:26.360 --> 00:16:29.960 starting to feel like I needed to make a big change. 260 00:16:30.600 --> 00:16:34.639 I used to pray to God every day before I 261 00:16:34.679 --> 00:16:39.120 would go to work, you know, for me to wake 262 00:16:39.200 --> 00:16:43.960 up and live my life doing the work that I 263 00:16:44.000 --> 00:16:46.320 of my dreams, and to also. 264 00:16:47.759 --> 00:16:51.320 Have a partner, a life partner. Okay. I prayed for 265 00:16:51.360 --> 00:16:52.240 that every day. 266 00:16:52.679 --> 00:16:56.600 After I moved out to Idaho, when I was still 267 00:16:57.039 --> 00:16:59.720 very much in a space of transition figuring out what 268 00:16:59.720 --> 00:17:02.879 I would truly being called to dedicate my life to, 269 00:17:05.039 --> 00:17:09.440 I reconnected with someone that I had dated in high 270 00:17:09.480 --> 00:17:13.799 school in Idaho before I moved, when I was like sixteen. 271 00:17:14.240 --> 00:17:14.640 Okay. 272 00:17:15.240 --> 00:17:20.839 It was very synchronistic how we reconnected. I was literally 273 00:17:21.680 --> 00:17:26.240 in my little apartment in Idaho by myself, you know, 274 00:17:27.200 --> 00:17:30.640 feeling sick, right, I was sick with something, and I 275 00:17:30.839 --> 00:17:33.960 was on Facebook, you know, and I was like, oh, 276 00:17:34.799 --> 00:17:39.240 his name literally popped into my awareness and I had 277 00:17:39.279 --> 00:17:43.680 not been in touch with him at all, and I thought, oh, 278 00:17:43.799 --> 00:17:48.200 I wonder what he's up to and I so I thought, oh, 279 00:17:48.240 --> 00:17:50.200 I wonder what he's up to. I'm going to type 280 00:17:50.200 --> 00:17:52.160 his name in and see if he has a profile 281 00:17:52.279 --> 00:17:55.119 in here. I typed his name in, it popped up. 282 00:17:56.000 --> 00:17:59.160 I had no agenda at the moment. I was just curious, 283 00:17:59.279 --> 00:18:01.200 right because I'm like, I kind of can't really do 284 00:18:01.319 --> 00:18:05.440 much because I'm not feeling good. So it turns out 285 00:18:05.559 --> 00:18:10.559 he had been married but was divorced, had three grown children, 286 00:18:11.319 --> 00:18:13.720 and so I thought, you know, what, what the heck, 287 00:18:13.799 --> 00:18:16.440 I'm just gonna message him and just say, hey, blast 288 00:18:16.480 --> 00:18:18.519 from the mass, you know, like, what have you been 289 00:18:18.599 --> 00:18:23.359 up to? I did that, and we were messaging back 290 00:18:23.400 --> 00:18:27.319 and forth, just you know, catching up essentially for a 291 00:18:27.359 --> 00:18:31.000 few days. We met up in person, and the rest 292 00:18:31.119 --> 00:18:36.279 is history. We started dating and got married almost three 293 00:18:36.359 --> 00:18:42.400 years later, and then that's it. So it's a really 294 00:18:42.440 --> 00:18:49.119 good example in terms of the importance of our willingness 295 00:18:49.160 --> 00:18:52.799 to make a decision about something that we don't have 296 00:18:52.839 --> 00:18:56.319 to have all of the answers. We just have to 297 00:18:56.440 --> 00:19:00.319 honor what we're feeling called to, and then every thing 298 00:19:00.440 --> 00:19:04.200 else unfolds. I mean, if you would have told me 299 00:19:04.400 --> 00:19:07.480 that things were going to that my prayers were going 300 00:19:07.519 --> 00:19:08.839 to be answered. 301 00:19:08.440 --> 00:19:09.519 In the way that they were. 302 00:19:10.519 --> 00:19:13.319 My human mind at the time would not have been 303 00:19:13.359 --> 00:19:15.599 able to comprehend that at all. 304 00:19:17.519 --> 00:19:17.880 Yeah. 305 00:19:18.000 --> 00:19:21.759 It's always amazing to me when you just know something 306 00:19:22.000 --> 00:19:25.640 and there's no logic behind it, and you take action, 307 00:19:26.640 --> 00:19:30.519 terrified taking action, but it all makes sense, it all 308 00:19:30.519 --> 00:19:31.240 comes together. 309 00:19:31.759 --> 00:19:36.880 Yeah, yeah, yeah, and yes, that was definitely a very 310 00:19:36.920 --> 00:19:42.920 catalyzing time in my life. And it also, although as 311 00:19:43.000 --> 00:19:45.799 profound as it was, right, it was also the beginning 312 00:19:46.079 --> 00:19:50.359 of all other journey that I would embark upon, right 313 00:19:51.759 --> 00:19:54.960 because yeah, I even thought it myself. You know, I've 314 00:19:55.000 --> 00:20:01.039 been in this leadership role. I've achieved so much. You know, 315 00:20:01.480 --> 00:20:07.359 I am starting an online business, no sweat right, Well, now, 316 00:20:09.160 --> 00:20:14.559 a lot of my real world experience has certainly been 317 00:20:14.599 --> 00:20:21.119 a contribution right to my work. And being visible in 318 00:20:21.160 --> 00:20:23.759 the way that you need to be visible when you 319 00:20:23.920 --> 00:20:26.279 know you have a mission, you know you have a 320 00:20:26.359 --> 00:20:29.279 purpose that you're here to fulfill, is a whole other 321 00:20:30.279 --> 00:20:33.359 layer of allowing yourself to be seen in the world. 322 00:20:35.079 --> 00:20:41.200 Yes, definitely, it's interesting as you're talking and thinking and 323 00:20:41.240 --> 00:20:44.039 this is something that I've had to learn. I'm sure 324 00:20:44.079 --> 00:20:47.680 you've had to learn it, and maybe our viewers are 325 00:20:47.720 --> 00:20:52.559 still learning it. But when you get those the sense 326 00:20:52.599 --> 00:20:55.160 that you need to take action, or you need to 327 00:20:55.240 --> 00:20:58.440 quit your job, or you need to message your friend 328 00:20:58.559 --> 00:21:01.599 on Facebook, and you I don't take that action, it's 329 00:21:01.640 --> 00:21:06.839 almost like everything falls apart and or everything gets even 330 00:21:07.279 --> 00:21:09.680 louder to get you to take that action. Do you 331 00:21:09.720 --> 00:21:10.759 find that

to be true? 332 00:21:13.359 --> 00:21:13.680 Yes? 333 00:21:13.880 --> 00:21:18.119 And you can feel that, you can feel the resistance 334 00:21:19.319 --> 00:21:22.599 in your body right when you know you're being called 335 00:21:22.640 --> 00:21:26.640 to do something, and you may have even already made 336 00:21:26.720 --> 00:21:31.599 the decision internally, but you're just still choosing not to 337 00:21:31.640 --> 00:21:34.839 take action on it for a lot of reasons, right 338 00:21:35.480 --> 00:21:38.480 And in the moment, you know, coming back to my husband, 339 00:21:38.680 --> 00:21:42.759 in the moment that his name popped into my awareness, 340 00:21:43.039 --> 00:21:46.440 I had no agenda. I wasn't wondering anything. I was 341 00:21:46.480 --> 00:21:50.200 just truly in a space of that's interesting that his 342 00:21:50.319 --> 00:21:53.519 name comes into my awareness after all this time, and 343 00:21:53.839 --> 00:21:55.920 you know what, let's check it out. 344 00:21:56.000 --> 00:21:57.839 Let's see if he has a profile. 345 00:21:57.960 --> 00:21:59.759 Let's just see what he's been up to for the 346 00:21:59.759 --> 00:22:04.039 lot twenty five years sudly, you know, however long it was. 347 00:22:04.680 --> 00:22:08.240 And so it's really which I've talked about lots of 348 00:22:08.279 --> 00:22:14.119 times as well, is cultivating the qualities of both humility 349 00:22:14.279 --> 00:22:19.880 and curiosity on this journey is so important, right, because 350 00:22:19.880 --> 00:22:27.200 it's that curiosity and that willingness to move forward into 351 00:22:27.240 --> 00:22:33.880 a space right knowing that you don't feel equipped. It's 352 00:22:34.160 --> 00:22:39.559 it really is so fundamental to our ability to evolve. 353 00:22:40.519 --> 00:22:44.640 Yeah. Yeah, I find a lot of times when I 354 00:22:44.680 --> 00:22:46.440 work with people and they're having some kind of a 355 00:22:46.519 --> 00:22:51.319 physical issue going on, and we take a deeper spiritual 356 00:22:51.359 --> 00:22:53.960 look at it, it's because they're not doing what they 357 00:22:54.000 --> 00:22:59.440 know they're supposed to be doing, even saying hey, because. 358 00:23:00.319 --> 00:23:07.039 Yeah, absolutely, I mean, our resistance definitely manifests itself in 359 00:23:07.079 --> 00:23:11.680 the physical. Absolutely, And as much as I going back 360 00:23:11.720 --> 00:23:16.160 to my prior career, as much as I genuinely loved 361 00:23:16.920 --> 00:23:21.599 that work for so long, there was also a lot 362 00:23:21.599 --> 00:23:26.200 of stress, a lot of you know, stress that was 363 00:23:27.039 --> 00:23:32.359 stored in my body from pushing myself to work longer hours, 364 00:23:32.400 --> 00:23:36.240 more than my body wanted me to work. There were 365 00:23:36.240 --> 00:23:39.039 still just a lot of things I was doing that 366 00:23:39.079 --> 00:23:44.720 were in direct resistance to how I wanted to live 367 00:23:45.279 --> 00:23:45.839 day to day. 368 00:23:46.599 --> 00:23:52.759 M Yeah, well, this is something that I mentioned earlier 369 00:23:52.799 --> 00:23:58.480 before we were on and you had somewhere I had 370 00:23:58.559 --> 00:24:01.480 read that you experience and dark knight of the soul? 371 00:24:04.240 --> 00:24:07.880 How did that lead you to deeper levels of awareness 372 00:24:08.000 --> 00:24:10.119 or even lead you into what you're doing? Because I 373 00:24:10.160 --> 00:24:14.359 find that, you know, as I always say it, whatever 374 00:24:14.400 --> 00:24:16.640 it takes to get us to do what we're supposed 375 00:24:16.680 --> 00:24:18.400 to do, or to get us to change, or to 376 00:24:18.440 --> 00:24:21.279 get us to get to the truth, and dark knights 377 00:24:21.319 --> 00:24:24.839 of the soul oftentimes are what it takes. So tell 378 00:24:24.920 --> 00:24:27.640 us about what happened with you with that. 379 00:24:28.480 --> 00:24:32.960 Yeah, So to explain more about, you know, in my 380 00:24:33.039 --> 00:24:36.960 own experience and that of supporting other clients, how these 381 00:24:37.119 --> 00:24:42.680 dark nights of the soul happen? You know, we are 382 00:24:43.400 --> 00:24:46.359 I mentioned earlier on in the conversation about how I 383 00:24:46.400 --> 00:24:48.720 had checked off all the boxes off the list of 384 00:24:48.720 --> 00:24:52.680 what traditional society tells us it means to achieve success. Well, 385 00:24:53.759 --> 00:24:56.119 what happens with a dark knight of the soul is 386 00:24:56.160 --> 00:25:01.599 that you're so deeply conditioned to believe that life is 387 00:25:01.720 --> 00:25:02.319 lived a. 388 00:25:02.240 --> 00:25:05.240 Certain way, right, and then when. 389 00:25:05.039 --> 00:25:07.960 You make a decision such as the one I did 390 00:25:08.400 --> 00:25:12.960 to make that leap of faith, while you suddenly find 391 00:25:13.000 --> 00:25:18.359 yourself in a space in your life that is uncharted 392 00:25:18.440 --> 00:25:25.599 for you because everything your entire life that you've thought 393 00:25:25.720 --> 00:25:28.680 that it took to live your life, to take care 394 00:25:28.759 --> 00:25:31.920 of yourself to achieve success. 395 00:25:32.400 --> 00:25:33.599 Kind of goes out the window. 396 00:25:35.279 --> 00:25:40.079 Yes, because we live in a world that, while there 397 00:25:40.200 --> 00:25:43.519 is more awareness right that there's more to life or 398 00:25:43.559 --> 00:25:47.200 whatever than there has been in ever in years past, 399 00:25:47.759 --> 00:25:51.519 we still live in a society that very much conditions 400 00:25:51.640 --> 00:25:54.759 us to go outside of ourself for answers. And so 401 00:25:54.880 --> 00:25:57.680 when you find yourself in a space where you've taken 402 00:25:57.720 --> 00:26:00.079 a leap of faith and you don't have all the answer, 403 00:26:00.400 --> 00:26:04.799 but you can't use what you know in terms of your.

404 00:26:04.720 --> 00:26:07.440 Ability to problem solve right to come up. 405 00:26:07.319 --> 00:26:13.160 With those answers, it stirs up all of your resistance 406 00:26:13.200 --> 00:26:18.839 and it also stirs up any past trauma that you've 407 00:26:18.920 --> 00:26:22.279 experienced as well, experiences in your life where you've just 408 00:26:22.359 --> 00:26:26.519 kind of pushed them down because again you've been taught 409 00:26:26.519 --> 00:26:28.319 that vulnerability. 410 00:26:27.839 --> 00:26:32.119 Is weakness both. 411 00:26:32.759 --> 00:26:38.640 You know, all humans experienced that, right, But for me, 412 00:26:38.839 --> 00:26:45.039 as a woman specifically having been someone who worked their 413 00:26:45.039 --> 00:26:48.960 way up and achieved a certain level of success. 414 00:26:48.559 --> 00:26:49.759 In their career. 415 00:26:50.920 --> 00:26:54.920 In there at like thirty two years old, I had 416 00:26:55.079 --> 00:26:58.880 a cheat, you know, held an executive position not only 417 00:26:58.920 --> 00:27:01.240 as young as I was one of the only women 418 00:27:01.799 --> 00:27:06.480 at the time, and so getting used to feeling like 419 00:27:06.559 --> 00:27:09.960 you always have to prove yourself right, and then finding 420 00:27:10.000 --> 00:27:12.799 yourself in a space where it's like, okay, I have 421 00:27:12.839 --> 00:27:15.400 to throw everything about how I've lived and what I 422 00:27:15.440 --> 00:27:17.720 thought I needed to do to take care of myself 423 00:27:17.799 --> 00:27:19.160 and evolve out the window. 424 00:27:21.079 --> 00:27:26.920 You naturally question yourself because it's like. 425 00:27:26.920 --> 00:27:29.599 Well, how do I make money? 426 00:27:29.680 --> 00:27:32.039 Now? What am I being called to? 427 00:27:32.240 --> 00:27:36.440 So you essentially just get into this very dark space 428 00:27:36.880 --> 00:27:42.720 where you're questioning yourself and you're just not knowing right 429 00:27:42.759 --> 00:27:46.720 where to go, and that can bring up a very 430 00:27:47.079 --> 00:27:53.640 dark season. It can bring up depression, It can lead 431 00:27:53.720 --> 00:27:59.720 you to question your very existence, you know, And that's 432 00:27:59.759 --> 00:28:04.039 really what a dark night of the soul is. 433 00:28:04.599 --> 00:28:06.880 You're having this very deep. 434 00:28:08.160 --> 00:28:11.559 Awakening and it's not even just an awakening, it is 435 00:28:11.640 --> 00:28:17.759 a remembrance because you are starting to remember the truth 436 00:28:18.960 --> 00:28:22.519 of who you are, that there's a greater purpose for you, 437 00:28:22.599 --> 00:28:26.119 whatever that is that you're being called to. And so 438 00:28:26.200 --> 00:28:28.400 it's really the dark night of the soul is really 439 00:28:28.440 --> 00:28:32.400 that season where you're in that space of deep awakening, 440 00:28:32.480 --> 00:28:37.319 deep remembering your questioning how you've lived your life, how 441 00:28:37.359 --> 00:28:41.319 to move forward in a way that you're honoring yourself 442 00:28:41.400 --> 00:28:45.279 and your truth moving forward. And so what got me 443 00:28:45.359 --> 00:28:49.400 through that? And there's been a couple of them after that, 444 00:28:49.640 --> 00:28:54.039 you know, after the first one, as I continued to evolve. 445 00:28:54.119 --> 00:28:58.880 But what has always? What has always? 446 00:29:00.200 --> 00:29:02.839 I want to reword this to say, you know, I've 447 00:29:02.839 --> 00:29:07.319 always stayed no matter what the season, I've always stayed. 448 00:29:09.119 --> 00:29:12.640 And the reason why I've always stayed is because I've 449 00:29:12.680 --> 00:29:13.759 always brought. 450 00:29:13.519 --> 00:29:15.599 Myself back to center. 451 00:29:15.880 --> 00:29:19.680 I've always brought myself back to no matter what is 452 00:29:19.720 --> 00:29:23.400 happening in my external reality right now, no matter how 453 00:29:23.480 --> 00:29:27.200 much I'm questioning myself or how I'm feeling, I know 454 00:29:28.319 --> 00:29:32.559 that there's something greater. I know I'm being called to something. 455 00:29:33.200 --> 00:29:35.480 And then later on in the journey, right I know 456 00:29:35.680 --> 00:29:39.680 when I'm being called too. That has always kept me 457 00:29:40.160 --> 00:29:41.240 very grounded. 458 00:29:43.720 --> 00:29:51.920 Yeah, that's great. So I know that in the intro 459 00:29:52.160 --> 00:29:56.319 I said that you talk about oversoul. Can you kind 460 00:29:56.359 --> 00:29:59.119 of give an idea of what that means to you? 461 00:29:59.279 --> 00:30:02.759 Is that you're hirer self? Is that your spirit over 462 00:30:02.799 --> 00:30:05.119 soul is a word that people may not understand. 463 00:30:05.920 --> 00:30:10.519 Yeah, oversaul isn't a term that is as widely used. 464 00:30:11.720 --> 00:30:12.680 Your over soul. 465 00:30:13.839 --> 00:30:17.960 So everyone at this point is probably heard of living 466 00:30:18.079 --> 00:30:21.599 soul lead, right, living from your soul, Okay, and then 467 00:30:21.640 --> 00:30:23.119 there's your oversaul. 468 00:30:24.599 --> 00:30:26.279 Our over soul is our. 469 00:30:26.200 --> 00:30:31.599 Primordial being, our i Am, which you've probably heard the 470 00:30:31.720 --> 00:30:32.440 term of right. 471 00:30:33.920 --> 00:30:35.799 Our over soul is the. 472 00:30:35.680 --> 00:30:43.680 Overarching essence of our collective existence. Living soul lead or 473 00:30:43.759 --> 00:30:48.960 when you hear the reference to soul, your soul as 474 00:30:48.960 --> 00:30:53.039 it relates to your current incarnation here is a fragment 475 00:30:53.200 --> 00:30:59.400 of your oversaul. So your over soul transcends incarnations, lifetimes, 476 00:30:59.680 --> 00:31:04.839 all of your experiences. 477 00:31:04.880 --> 00:31:05.279 And so. 478 00:31:07.680 --> 00:31:12.119 There's a difference between

living soul lead and living as 479 00:31:12.240 --> 00:31:13.160 your over soul. 480 00:31:13.680 --> 00:31:13.960 Right. 481 00:31:14.440 --> 00:31:18.960 So living soul lead looks like you might channel your 482 00:31:19.000 --> 00:31:22.599 highest self, or you might tune in on something right 483 00:31:22.640 --> 00:31:28.079 and then take steps on your journey in alignment with that. 484 00:31:29.839 --> 00:31:34.920 When you're living as your over soul in your body, 485 00:31:35.680 --> 00:31:38.880 you're no longer channeling or tuning in because you're living 486 00:31:38.960 --> 00:31:41.759 as that version of yourself. You're living as your I 487 00:31:41.839 --> 00:31:47.200 Am twenty four to seven. And every decision you make, 488 00:31:47.359 --> 00:31:50.440 every conversation you have, all that you do and who 489 00:31:50.480 --> 00:31:56.759 you are is an expression of that in this human life. 490 00:31:57.359 --> 00:32:00.000 So when you live as your over. 491 00:32:02.440 --> 00:32:06.759 The doubts on your journey, the questioning right, the push 492 00:32:06.799 --> 00:32:14.839 and pull of isolating yourself, it all dissolves because you're 493 00:32:15.039 --> 00:32:19.680 truly living in your body expressed as the truth of 494 00:32:20.200 --> 00:32:28.200 who you are. That is typically if someone is hearing 495 00:32:28.240 --> 00:32:32.839 this for the first time, it can feel kind. 496 00:32:32.640 --> 00:32:37.039 Of like, you know, I need to marinate. 497 00:32:38.960 --> 00:32:45.400 For a while, right, But that is that is true embodiment. 498 00:32:45.599 --> 00:32:48.720 You know a lot of people talk about embodiment, teach 499 00:32:48.759 --> 00:32:52.720 about embodiment, but a lot of that is in concept. 500 00:32:54.440 --> 00:32:59.079 Yeah, this is lived reality. You know. 501 00:32:59.599 --> 00:33:03.599 There is there's no separate mission, there is no separate business, 502 00:33:03.759 --> 00:33:08.079 there is no here are my relationships, here's my purpose, 503 00:33:08.720 --> 00:33:12.720 It's all one. 504 00:33:13.000 --> 00:33:15.480 I know the truth of who I am. I know 505 00:33:15.519 --> 00:33:16.559 what I'm here to do. 506 00:33:17.319 --> 00:33:20.119 And I wake up every day and go to bed 507 00:33:20.160 --> 00:33:25.079 every night with that at the forefront of my awareness always. 508 00:33:25.799 --> 00:33:29.400 It transcends meditation. Like I said, it's not tuning in, 509 00:33:29.480 --> 00:33:30.440 it's not channeling. 510 00:33:31.680 --> 00:33:32.640 It's who I am. 511 00:33:34.200 --> 00:33:39.359 All the time. So I would love to hear more 512 00:33:39.400 --> 00:33:43.559 about how you help people get there, you know, how 513 00:33:43.599 --> 00:33:45.680 does that happen? We do need to take a bit 514 00:33:45.680 --> 00:33:49.279 of a break, So hold that thought and we'll be 515 00:33:49.359 --> 00:33:52.319 right back. 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549 00:36:14.599 --> 00:36:16.119 and bananas? 550 00:36:17.480 --> 00:36:20.800 Support the Feeding America nationwide network of food banks to 551 00:36:20.880 --> 00:36:24.000 help provide meals to those in need. Join us at 552 00:36:24.000 --> 00:36:25.440 Feeding America dot org. 553 00:36:31.800 --> 00:36:34.920 Welcome back. I'm talking with Jennifer Spore and we were 554 00:36:35.000 --> 00:36:38.000 just talking about oversoul and I think your definition of 555 00:36:38.039 --> 00:36:41.440 it is really perfect, but as you said, it might 556 00:36:41.480 --> 00:36:47.000 be a little bit hard to understand. Yes, definitely, but 557 00:36:47.039 --> 00:36:49.920 I think it's great. So tell us, because I know 558 00:36:49.960 --> 00:36:53.760 you work with people to help them access it or 559 00:36:54.159 --> 00:36:58.159 live from it or experience it. Tell us what that 560 00:36:58.239 --> 00:36:58.679 looks like. 561 00:36:59.320 --> 00:37:04.880 Yes, absolutely, thank you. And so I work with mission 562 00:37:04.920 --> 00:37:11.360 led women, And earlier you did mention something about you 563 00:37:11.400 --> 00:37:14.440 know why I work with women and I have worked 564 00:37:14.480 --> 00:37:17.880 with men in the past. I just find that organically 565 00:37:19.239 --> 00:37:25.159 I tend to attract women, and it makes logical sense 566 00:37:25.239 --> 00:37:30.800 because you know, our higher calling right our mission here, 567 00:37:30.840 --> 00:37:35.440 our purpose here is always directly connected with our own 568 00:37:35.800 --> 00:37:43.760 lived experience, and so I tend to attract people who are, 569 00:37:43.960 --> 00:37:47.079 you know, on a similar path. So anyway to move forward, 570 00:37:47.719 --> 00:37:50.320 I work with women who are mission led, who are 571 00:37:50.320 --> 00:37:53.679 already leading, who are already putting themselves out in the world, 572 00:37:55.199 --> 00:37:57.960 who are already living soul led, who already know the 573 00:37:58.000 --> 00:38:02.960 truth of who they are, but they're experiencing a level 574 00:38:03.320 --> 00:38:09.920 of instability and delay essentially in fully bringing into physical 575 00:38:10.039 --> 00:38:14.239 form the life that they know that they're here for 576 00:38:14.559 --> 00:38:19.000 and that they're ready to live. They're already living that 577 00:38:19.239 --> 00:38:25.519 higher calling, but they're experiencing some push and pull right 578 00:38:25.639 --> 00:38:30.039 like they and a couple of ways that that may 579 00:38:30.119 --> 00:38:37.079 show up in the physical is their visibility is inconsistent, right, Like, 580 00:38:37.239 --> 00:38:42.000 they're authentic in their work and what they're pursuing in 581 00:38:42.039 --> 00:38:46.760 the world, but they may be showing up only when 582 00:38:46.840 --> 00:38:54.199 they feel inspired. And inspiration is certainly profound and it's 583 00:38:54.239 --> 00:38:59.280 a fundamental part

of the journey. But when you're here 584 00:38:59.679 --> 00:39:04.559 to fulfill a purpose, to fulfill a mission that you 585 00:39:04.599 --> 00:39:11.039 innately feel called to, it's very important to have structures 586 00:39:11.079 --> 00:39:16.519 in place, right that support that. So these women are 587 00:39:16.719 --> 00:39:23.840 not showing up consistently, and they may be feeling wobbly 588 00:39:24.119 --> 00:39:29.760 in their foundation on their journey because they're putting themselves 589 00:39:29.840 --> 00:39:32.760 out there, and if they're not feeling like they're getting 590 00:39:32.800 --> 00:39:36.840 an immediate return in the physical they keep moving and 591 00:39:36.920 --> 00:39:43.360 shifting to offering something else or questioning themselves, right, like. 592 00:39:43.960 --> 00:39:45.599 Am I supposed to be doing this? 593 00:39:45.880 --> 00:39:50.960 Because I'm not getting the results that I feel like 594 00:39:51.199 --> 00:39:56.159 I should be experiencing from dedicating my life right authentically 595 00:39:57.000 --> 00:40:01.840 to this path. The reason why all this is happening 596 00:40:02.679 --> 00:40:08.480 is because they are still living in an element of 597 00:40:08.559 --> 00:40:14.719 separation consciousness. So they're living soul lad right, They're tuning 598 00:40:14.800 --> 00:40:17.880 into themselves. They know the truth of who they are, 599 00:40:18.639 --> 00:40:22.840 and they're following that guidance, and. 600 00:40:24.320 --> 00:40:25.480 They're still. 601 00:40:27.519 --> 00:40:31.360 Treating certain relationships in their lives and aspects of their 602 00:40:31.400 --> 00:40:36.280 lives like it's different, like it's outside of that. And 603 00:40:36.360 --> 00:40:41.920 so that is really what causes that instability or that 604 00:40:42.039 --> 00:40:46.800 feeling kind of wobbily. And so the work that I 605 00:40:47.000 --> 00:40:53.960 do introducing them to physically embodying that truth of who 606 00:40:53.960 --> 00:40:57.400 they are. They're over soul through their day to day living, 607 00:40:57.599 --> 00:41:02.840 not just their mission or or their purpose, right, it 608 00:41:03.079 --> 00:41:04.519 dissolves all of that. 609 00:41:06.199 --> 00:41:06.920 When they. 610 00:41:08.559 --> 00:41:14.800 Start palpably feeling physically in the cells of their body, 611 00:41:14.960 --> 00:41:19.000 the truth of who they are that changes, right, because 612 00:41:19.000 --> 00:41:23.280 you're living in a constant state of knowing, not just 613 00:41:23.559 --> 00:41:28.280 knowing when you meditate, not just knowing when you intentionally 614 00:41:29.280 --> 00:41:36.079 tune in. And so that is really the core of 615 00:41:36.639 --> 00:41:42.239 the work that I do, and it is a combination, 616 00:41:42.440 --> 00:41:47.960 it's not a specific modality. And I work primarily. I 617 00:41:49.039 --> 00:41:53.880 do offer group temples on occasion. I primarily work

with 618 00:41:53.960 --> 00:41:59.880 people privately because the journey of over soul embodiment is 619 00:42:00.280 --> 00:42:04.440 a very customized one, right, because everybody's I AM is 620 00:42:04.719 --> 00:42:11.840 unique and different, and so the path to reach that 621 00:42:12.000 --> 00:42:15.760 state is different for each woman as well. 622 00:42:18.400 --> 00:42:22.039 Can you give us a kind of a picture of 623 00:42:22.079 --> 00:42:25.159 what that looks like to help women get there. 624 00:42:25.760 --> 00:42:26.039 Yeah. 625 00:42:26.079 --> 00:42:32.400 Absolutely, So the space that I hold is a combination 626 00:42:32.920 --> 00:42:41.079 of channeling energetic, you know, channeling their oversaul energetic, it's 627 00:42:41.239 --> 00:42:49.519 energetic a kahok, and also somatic and structural. So I 628 00:42:50.159 --> 00:42:54.079 guide clients. I have a gift for when I'm in 629 00:42:54.159 --> 00:42:59.239 space with someone, I can immediately tune into what their 630 00:42:59.360 --> 00:43:05.400 highest path is in this life and where they're experiencing 631 00:43:05.559 --> 00:43:13.039 obstacles on that path, and so with their willingness right 632 00:43:13.320 --> 00:43:21.519 to participate in that shift, I guide them into learning 633 00:43:21.599 --> 00:43:29.239 how to feel in their bodies where those obstacles are, 634 00:43:30.599 --> 00:43:37.079 and how to thematically dissolve them so that they're creating 635 00:43:37.760 --> 00:43:45.679 space for their over soul to fully occupy their body. 636 00:43:46.880 --> 00:43:49.000 And then beyond that, right. 637 00:43:50.559 --> 00:43:54.000 When they begin to feel embodied, then it is supporting 638 00:43:54.039 --> 00:44:01.960 them and navigating structurally the changes that begin organically coming 639 00:44:02.000 --> 00:44:07.440 forward for these women to make, whether it's refining their 640 00:44:07.519 --> 00:44:10.960 offerings in their work and how they're showing up in 641 00:44:11.000 --> 00:44:18.639 their mission work, or changes in their relationships. Money is 642 00:44:18.679 --> 00:44:22.280 something that comes up often right because it's learning how 643 00:44:22.320 --> 00:44:29.039 to relate to creating resources and receiving resources in a 644 00:44:29.079 --> 00:44:32.760 different way from what they're used to. So despite the 645 00:44:32.760 --> 00:44:35.440 fact that there is so many of us out there right, 646 00:44:35.519 --> 00:44:39.760 women who have remembered, women who know the truth of 647 00:44:39.800 --> 00:44:42.719 who they are, and they are out there leading in 648 00:44:42.760 --> 00:44:43.239 the world. 649 00:44:43.760 --> 00:44:44.679 The number one. 650 00:44:44.639 --> 00:44:51.599 Challenge is that despite all of that, we can still 651 00:44:51.679 --> 00:44:57.920 find ourselves falling into this loop right of constructs around 652 00:44:57.960 --> 00:45:00.840 that there's a right way to show up or a

653 00:45:00.920 --> 00:45:06.079 right way to be in order to achieve to fulfill 654 00:45:06.199 --> 00:45:08.880 our higher calling in this life. 655 00:45:09.639 --> 00:45:14.480 So that is at a high level, the journey that 656 00:45:14.559 --> 00:45:16.360 I am supporting them through. 657 00:45:18.280 --> 00:45:23.559 And what about dealing with people's fears and programming and 658 00:45:24.360 --> 00:45:27.599 you know, belief that they don't deserve to do things? 659 00:45:27.639 --> 00:45:28.960 Do you assist people with that? 660 00:45:31.760 --> 00:45:36.960 So there are fears right that come up on this journey. 661 00:45:37.079 --> 00:45:43.400 These women are in a space where they've done a 662 00:45:43.440 --> 00:45:46.960 lot of that inner work already. So when there is 663 00:45:47.039 --> 00:45:50.440 a fear that comes up or something that comes up 664 00:45:50.440 --> 00:45:55.079 from their subconscious that they weren't aware of prior, we 665 00:45:55.599 --> 00:46:00.360 tend to move through that pretty quickly because I'm holding 666 00:46:00.400 --> 00:46:04.679 space for them to identify why that's coming forward, and 667 00:46:04.719 --> 00:46:10.320 there's already a willingness with them to release it. 668 00:46:13.119 --> 00:46:16.440 And how do you know if somebody is ready, you know, 669 00:46:16.559 --> 00:46:21.039 are you able to sense that intuitively or you know, 670 00:46:21.079 --> 00:46:23.360 I'm just imagining somebody coming to you and saying, I've 671 00:46:23.360 --> 00:46:26.039 done all this work, so I'm ready, but they really aren't, 672 00:46:26.480 --> 00:46:28.239 can you tell? Yeah? 673 00:46:28.280 --> 00:46:32.280 So I can immediately feel whether or not they're ready, 674 00:46:32.400 --> 00:46:36.039 absolutely when someone invites me into their field, right, I 675 00:46:36.079 --> 00:46:41.199 can feel that I only step into space with someone 676 00:46:41.480 --> 00:46:46.679 with their consent. Right, So I can immediately feel whether 677 00:46:47.119 --> 00:46:51.719 or not they're ready yet. Because yes, sometimes someone is 678 00:46:52.320 --> 00:46:58.519 not experiencing their life in the way that they desire, 679 00:46:59.000 --> 00:47:01.760 and they will say that they're ready because they're trying 680 00:47:01.800 --> 00:47:06.039 to force their own readiness, which I don't know about you, 681 00:47:06.079 --> 00:47:09.280 but I've been in that space too, right, I've been 682 00:47:09.320 --> 00:47:12.840 in the mental space of well, you know, based upon 683 00:47:13.000 --> 00:47:15.639 how many years I've been doing this and all of the. 684 00:47:15.719 --> 00:47:18.880 Things, like I should be ready, So yeah, I'm ready. Well, 685 00:47:18.880 --> 00:47:20.760 it doesn't always, you know, work like that. 686 00:47:21.360 --> 00:47:25.559 A sign that someone is truly ready, right, is in 687 00:47:25.599 --> 00:47:31.920 their willingness to participate, is in their willingness to move 688 00:47:31.960 --> 00:47:35.599 forward because they know they're ready. They and they also 689 00:47:35.719 --> 00:47:38.559 know that they don't have all of the answers, but 690 00:47:38.599 --> 00:47:43.079 they're still ready. So it really lies in a level 691 00:47:43.159 --> 00:47:46.800 of willingness to participate when you don't have all of 692 00:47:46.840 --> 00:47:50.599 the answers right, and to embrace all of the experiences 693 00:47:50.639 --> 00:47:52.800 that come forward. 694 00:47:53.840 --> 00:47:56.840 To aid you in truly. 695 00:47:56.920 --> 00:48:02.159 Experiencing evolution, sustainable evolution. 696 00:48:02.519 --> 00:48:03.320 On your journey. 697 00:48:03.719 --> 00:48:09.159 It's that and it's how quickly they make decisions. 698 00:48:10.719 --> 00:48:14.280 Right. So if someone is like, oh, this sounds. 699 00:48:13.920 --> 00:48:17.400 Great, but I you know, got to spend some time 700 00:48:17.519 --> 00:48:21.480 marinating in it, Like sometimes there is an element of that, 701 00:48:23.000 --> 00:48:28.320 and when you're truly ready, you already know, it just 702 00:48:28.440 --> 00:48:32.840 becomes You've already made the decision. Internally, it just becomes 703 00:48:33.599 --> 00:48:39.559 you your mind allowing you right to choose that. 704 00:48:39.760 --> 00:48:44.119 And sometimes we have to override the mind. Now, the 705 00:48:44.199 --> 00:48:47.880 human mind obviously serves the purpose, otherwise we wouldn't have it. 706 00:48:48.079 --> 00:48:50.519 The thing is is that when it comes to making 707 00:48:50.559 --> 00:48:56.440 these kinds of decisions for your journey, the mind isn't 708 00:48:56.800 --> 00:48:59.400 the main source that you want to look to to 709 00:48:59.519 --> 00:49:03.559 make better decision because the human mind can only support 710 00:49:03.639 --> 00:49:09.880 us in making decisions based upon our past experiences. So 711 00:49:10.000 --> 00:49:13.440 this is why so many people get stuck in that 712 00:49:13.559 --> 00:49:16.639 loop of kind of like being on the hamster wheel 713 00:49:16.760 --> 00:49:19.880 and running in place right because they keep defaulting to 714 00:49:19.960 --> 00:49:23.920 their mind to make all of decisions when it really 715 00:49:24.079 --> 00:49:29.480 comes from your heart, it really comes from your own 716 00:49:29.519 --> 00:49:32.840 inner knowing, and you're not going to have all of 717 00:49:32.880 --> 00:49:37.159 the answers. But once you're tapped into that inner knowing, 718 00:49:38.559 --> 00:49:42.119 you know whether something is true or not right, and 719 00:49:42.159 --> 00:49:44.519 if you're being called to it, then it's just like. 720 00:49:44.480 --> 00:49:47.440 Okay, I'm going to do it. I'm doing this. I 721 00:49:47.480 --> 00:49:50.760 have no idea what's gonna unvolved. I just know that 722 00:49:50.840 --> 00:49:51.800 I needed to go. 723 00:49:52.599 --> 00:49:54.920 Yeah, and it's so hard for

people to trust that. 724 00:49:54.960 --> 00:49:57.760 We're really not taught to trust intact. In fact, most 725 00:49:57.800 --> 00:50:00.840 of us were taught to not trust that trust logic, 726 00:50:01.519 --> 00:50:08.039 you know. Yeah, so that's an interesting challenge. Yeah, I 727 00:50:08.119 --> 00:50:11.760 was thinking back when you were talking about people taking action. 728 00:50:12.079 --> 00:50:16.760 I was thinking about how what happens when you don't 729 00:50:16.800 --> 00:50:19.519 take action? You know, we only have a few more minutes, 730 00:50:19.559 --> 00:50:21.440 but talk a little bit about that, because I find 731 00:50:21.480 --> 00:50:23.880 in my own life if I know something and I'm 732 00:50:23.920 --> 00:50:27.320 supposed to do something and I don't do it, everything 733 00:50:27.840 --> 00:50:31.039 goes amuck. It just freaks. 734 00:50:31.280 --> 00:50:33.599 Yeah, I mean the number one there are a lot 735 00:50:33.639 --> 00:50:38.280 of signs for that, right, But when you're not honoring yourself, 736 00:50:38.559 --> 00:50:45.039 honoring your truth. Things can feel hard, Yeah, I mean, 737 00:50:45.119 --> 00:50:49.480 other than the fact that you're not physically having the 738 00:50:49.599 --> 00:50:57.119 experience that you desire, right, things can feel hard. It 739 00:50:57.159 --> 00:50:59.599 can feel like there are more delays. 740 00:51:00.039 --> 00:51:02.960 In your life and. 741 00:51:04.599 --> 00:51:09.480 Which are basically a reflection of your own inner delay 742 00:51:09.519 --> 00:51:11.239 of not allowing. 743 00:51:10.800 --> 00:51:13.360 Yourself to choose. 744 00:51:13.760 --> 00:51:20.880 So yeah, I mean, and when you continue staying in 745 00:51:20.920 --> 00:51:28.119 that space of resistance, things can feel like they're escalating 746 00:51:29.239 --> 00:51:30.159 in not a good way. 747 00:51:30.800 --> 00:51:31.000 Yeah. 748 00:51:31.159 --> 00:51:31.400 Right. 749 00:51:33.119 --> 00:51:37.920 I was thinking even going deeper in terms of what's 750 00:51:37.960 --> 00:51:40.679 going on in the world and the planet and have 751 00:51:41.679 --> 00:51:46.119 that's such a reflection of us needing to be awakened 752 00:51:46.239 --> 00:51:48.519 and needing for us to do our purpose and needing 753 00:51:48.559 --> 00:51:53.199 to come from love and meaningful, purposeful action. What are 754 00:51:53.239 --> 00:51:56.599 your thoughts on what's being reflected to us in such 755 00:51:56.599 --> 00:51:58.039 a big way right now? 756 00:51:58.920 --> 00:52:03.000 We're essentially, as a collective, we're in the midst of 757 00:52:03.039 --> 00:52:06.000 a dark knight of the soul, a collective dark night 758 00:52:06.039 --> 00:52:11.280 of the soul. Yes, right, Because we've been pushing against 759 00:52:11.440 --> 00:52:15.760 the natural order of things for so long. That can 760 00:52:15.800 --> 00:52:19.960 only happen for so long before these foundations start to 761 00:52:21.960 --> 00:52:27.679 internally combust is basically what's happening. So, yeah, we're going 762 00:52:27.719 --> 00:52:30.280 through a collective dark night of the soul right now. 763 00:52:30.760 --> 00:52:32.960 And the question that comes up a lot is, well, 764 00:52:32.960 --> 00:52:35.760 how can I make a difference in this time? And 765 00:52:36.000 --> 00:52:40.320 the greatest difference that anyone can make is by starting 766 00:52:40.320 --> 00:52:44.519 with themselves and looking at am I living embodying in 767 00:52:44.559 --> 00:52:48.920 my truth? Am I choosing to honor in all of 768 00:52:48.960 --> 00:52:53.400 my day to day life decisions what I'm being called to? 769 00:52:54.760 --> 00:52:58.639 That is how each and every one of us makes 770 00:52:59.320 --> 00:53:00.760 the greater difference. 771 00:53:01.719 --> 00:53:07.760 Yeah. Absolutely, Yeah, and we've got to do it, guys, Yes. 772 00:53:08.519 --> 00:53:09.719 Keep going forward. 773 00:53:09.800 --> 00:53:13.559 You know, there's a quote that I share a lot 774 00:53:13.639 --> 00:53:16.920 because I feel like the essence of it is so 775 00:53:17.039 --> 00:53:19.960 embodied in what we're talking about here, which is a 776 00:53:20.079 --> 00:53:24.079 quote by Joan of Arc that says, I am not afraid. 777 00:53:24.320 --> 00:53:26.000 I was born to do this. 778 00:53:26.760 --> 00:53:27.079 Yeah. 779 00:53:27.800 --> 00:53:29.119 I mean, you feel. 780 00:53:28.840 --> 00:53:35.400 How foundational, how grounded that energy is. It's like I'm 781 00:53:35.400 --> 00:53:39.559 walking through the fire, I'm having all the experiences, and 782 00:53:39.639 --> 00:53:43.639 with all of the experiences that I'm having, I am 783 00:53:43.800 --> 00:53:48.800 unwavering and always anchored in who I am and choosing 784 00:53:49.599 --> 00:53:50.400 according to that. 785 00:53:51.079 --> 00:53:55.239 Yeah. Yeah, I take that quote a little bit further, 786 00:53:55.400 --> 00:53:59.960 which is I chose to be here because I'm strong 787 00:54:00.639 --> 00:54:03.960 and I'm necessary to be here in terms of bringing 788 00:54:04.000 --> 00:54:07.440 the love and awakening the love. It was a choice 789 00:54:07.559 --> 00:54:11.880 because I know I'm ready. So we have like one 790 00:54:11.920 --> 00:54:15.800 more minute, tell people have reached you and some offerings 791 00:54:15.800 --> 00:54:16.960 that you've got. 792 00:54:17.800 --> 00:54:21.480 Yeah, thank you so much. The best place to connect 793 00:54:21.519 --> 00:54:24.719 with me is my website Jennifer Spore dot com. So 794 00:54:24.800 --> 00:54:28.079 for those who are listening, it's j E N N 795 00:54:28.199 --> 00:54:31.480 I F E R S P O R dot com. 796 00:54:32.039 --> 00:54:34.119 And then I also have, which I think you're going 797 00:54:34.199 --> 00:54:37.320 to include in the show notes, the link to a 798 00:54:37.360 --> 00:54:40.639 free quiz, but it's not what you know to be 799 00:54:40.719 --> 00:54:44.280 a typical quiz. It's called the Scale of Sovereign Frequency 800 00:54:44.920 --> 00:54:48.079 and it's free and it really serves as a mirror 801 00:54:48.280 --> 00:54:54.519 for you to get clarity around how you're currently embodying 802 00:54:54.840 --> 00:54:57.920 that in our authority in your life, and the purpose 803 00:54:58.000 --> 00:55:01.920 of that is to provide you with that clarity so 804 00:55:01.960 --> 00:55:07.400 that you feel more grounded and centered in choosing your 805 00:55:07.440 --> 00:55:08.119 path forward. 806 00:55:08.679 --> 00:55:09.400 Yeah. 807 00:55:09.440 --> 00:55:12.079 And that's right on your website too, isn't it. 808 00:55:12.079 --> 00:55:14.719 It is as well, it's on my website under the 809 00:55:14.800 --> 00:55:16.159 Living Library. 810 00:55:16.960 --> 00:55:21.679 Okay, good, Well, this was really awesome thank you so much, 811 00:55:21.800 --> 00:55:28.079 keep up the good, amazing, important work. And yeah, everybody, 812 00:55:28.079 --> 00:55:32.119 wake up and let's get this planet where it should be, 813 00:55:32.159 --> 00:55:32.800 back to love. 814 00:55:33.519 --> 00:55:36.360 Yes, let's do it. And thank you so much for 815 00:55:36.400 --> 00:55:36.960 having me. 816 00:55:37.599 --> 00:55:40.800 Yes, thank you, and I will see everybody next week. 817 00:55:41.119 --> 00:56:41.480 Have a great weektah