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WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.100 --> 00:00:01.960 This episode is presented by Vauxhall. 2 00:00:02.319 --> 00:00:06.650 So Josh, News UK have voted the new Vauxhall Frontera 3 00:00:07.169 --> 00:00:09.509 as the value car of the year 2025. 4 00:00:09.509 --> 00:00:10.550 Rightly so. 5 00:00:10.710 --> 00:00:11.869 Do you know why I can say that, Rob? 6 00:00:11.970 --> 00:00:12.189 Why? 7 00:00:12.589 --> 00:00:14.130 And you know this, I've test driven one. 8 00:00:14.199 --> 00:00:16.039 Oh yeah, and I've been test passenger. 9 00:00:16.059 --> 00:00:20.859 I got to drive the Frontera. Thoughts? A, the tech 10 00:00:20.899 --> 00:00:23.410 was so good, right, that it was just simple and. 11 00:00:23.679 --> 00:00:24.260 I felt like it. 12 00:00:24.260 --> 00:00:26.440 Was my car the moment we were moving. 13 00:00:26.699 --> 00:00:26.960 Yeah? 14 00:00:27.199 --> 00:00:28.359 We had loads of boot room. 15 00:00:28.410 --> 00:00:28.929 You saw that. 16 00:00:29.010 --> 00:00:30.250 Oh, I had a little peek in the back. 17 00:00:30.449 --> 00:00:32.310 I was thinking, this is perfect for a family. It 18 00:00:32.350 --> 00:00:33.710 was spacious. 19 00:00:34.149 --> 00:00:35.490 It was easy to use. 20 00:00:35.509 --> 00:00:37.070 And do you know what as well? No offence. I 21 00:00:37.109 --> 00:00:38.070 wasn't too near you. 22 00:00:38.090 --> 00:00:38.149 No. 23 00:00:38.469 --> 00:00:39.049 No, exactly. 24 00:00:39.070 --> 00:00:40.770 There's so much space in the front. I didn't feel 25 00:00:40.789 --> 00:00:44.060 like I was touching you. I couldn't smell you. It 26 00:00:44.100 --> 00:00:44.539 was great. 27 00:00:44.759 --> 00:00:48.100 It's available in electric. It's available in petrol hybrid. The 28 00:00:48.179 --> 00:00:51.990 electric is cheaper. It is available from... £ 23, 995. Ah, that 29 00:00:52.049 --> 00:00:54.170 sounds like. 30 00:00:54.310 --> 00:00:55.009 Value to me, Josh. 31 00:00:55.189 --> 00:00:55.990 That's great value. 32 00:00:56.070 --> 00:00:56.990 Great value, top value. 33 00:00:57.270 --> 00:00:59.750 Do what I did, Rob. Test drive the new Vauxhall 34 00:00:59.770 --> 00:01:04.170 Frontera today. Discover more by searching Vauxhall Frontera online. 35 00:01:07.760 --> 00:01:09.760 Hello, you're listening to Parenting Hell with. 36 00:01:10.040 --> 00:01:13.359 Rosie, can you say Josh Widdicombe? 37 00:01:14.099 --> 00:01:15.099 Josh Widdicombe. 38 00:01:15.540 --> 00:01:17.359 And can you say Rob Beckett? 39 00:01:18.019 --> 00:01:19.280 Rob Beckett. 40 00:01:19.549 --> 00:01:24.030 Good girl. Do it again. She wants to do it again. 41 00:01:24.069 --> 00:01:26.890 No chance. Gone. Sent. Yeah. 42 00:01:27.269 --> 00:01:31.120 This is my 36-month-old Rosie saying your names. 43 00:01:31.459 --> 00:01:31.739 Three. 44 00:01:32.079 --> 00:01:32.239 Yep. 45 00:01:32.560 --> 00:01:34.099 I started listening only in. 46 00:01:34.079 --> 00:01:35.159 July this year. 47 00:01:35.739 --> 00:01:36.000 What? 48 00:01:37.140 --> 00:01:39.409 Michael, get us another fucking clip from someone who cares. 49 00:01:40.620 --> 00:01:41.700 No, no, she does care. 50 00:01:42.019 --> 00:01:42.180 No. 51 00:01:42.200 --> 00:01:45.780 She's not refused to listen for five years. She's just failed. 52 00:01:45.980 --> 00:01:47.819 Sally, what is your effing problem? 53 00:01:47.840 --> 00:01:49.939 You've got to understand, Josh, we live in a world 54 00:01:49.969 --> 00:01:52.670 where not everyone knows about Josh Willicam, okay? And they're 55 00:01:52.689 --> 00:01:53.290 coming to you fresh. 56 00:01:53.310 --> 00:01:55.420 I refuse to believe that. Everyone's made their mind up, 57 00:01:55.469 --> 00:01:56.129 good or bad. 58 00:01:56.549 --> 00:01:58.530 I love listening to the pod while out walking with 59 00:01:58.650 --> 00:02:01.650 Alice in a pram or our dog, Kevin. My partner 60 00:02:01.670 --> 00:02:03.129 always takes the piss out of me when he sees 61 00:02:03.170 --> 00:02:05.170 me listening to the pod as it makes me laugh 62 00:02:05.230 --> 00:02:07.109 out loud and I just look like a weirdo chuckling 63 00:02:07.129 --> 00:02:09.289 to myself. See the couples that I get. 64 00:02:09.169 --> 00:02:10.229 Coming to my show. Why take the piss out of. 65 00:02:11.979 --> 00:02:13.639 His wife enjoying herself. 66 00:02:13.800 --> 00:02:15.340 Yeah. He's jealous. 67 00:02:15.659 --> 00:02:17.819 Men that she finds funnier than her own husband. 68 00:02:17.879 --> 00:02:21.240 He's just annoyed that she's got men inside her ears 69 00:02:21.780 --> 00:02:24.800 making her giggle. And he don't like it. His ego 70 00:02:24.840 --> 00:02:25.259 can't take it. 71 00:02:25.280 --> 00:02:25.460 Yeah. 72 00:02:25.639 --> 00:02:28.500 Thank you for being mint company on my walks. Keep 73 00:02:28.539 --> 00:02:30.400 it sexy and relatable, Sally from Manchester. 74 00:02:30.460 --> 00:02:33.120 I've got nothing against anyone inside Lou's ears. 75 00:02:33.560 --> 00:02:36.199 She's also called Sally Walsh. 76 00:02:36.479 --> 00:02:36.879 So. 77 00:02:37.180 --> 00:02:37.860 Sally Walsh. 78 00:02:38.219 --> 00:02:39.280 It fits with today's guest. 79 00:02:39.400 --> 00:02:39.960 Sean Walsh. 80 00:02:40.039 --> 00:02:40.520 Sean Walsh. 81 00:02:40.949 --> 00:02:42.939 The repeat, the second, the sequel. 82 00:02:43.280 --> 00:02:43.639 The sequel. 83 00:02:43.659 --> 00:02:44.219 He was on before? 84 00:02:44.520 --> 00:02:48.159 He was on before. It's third time. Wow. 85 00:02:48.180 --> 00:02:49.520 So he's got two kids now. 86 00:02:50.020 --> 00:02:50.460 Yeah. 87 00:02:50.500 --> 00:02:51.919 Has he been on with a second? 88 00:02:52.180 --> 00:02:52.979 Can't remember. We'll find out. 89 00:02:53.060 --> 00:02:55.539 We'll find out. But he's got two under two, and 90 00:02:55.599 --> 00:02:56.590 I know how bad that is. 91 00:02:57.150 --> 00:02:57.530 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 92 00:02:57.539 --> 00:03:00.889 And he messaged me a few days ago saying how 93 00:03:01.009

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--> 00:03:01.590 he's struggling. 94 00:03:02.030 --> 00:03:03.849 Well, that's good. That's what we want to hear. 95 00:03:04.150 --> 00:03:05.650 I think he's going to come in stressed, and it's 96 00:03:05.669 --> 00:03:08.069 going to be perfect. And his tour's starting soon, so 97 00:03:08.090 --> 00:03:08.870 he's going to be vulnerable. 98 00:03:09.319 --> 00:03:11.030 Yeah, yeah. So should we really twist the knife? 99 00:03:11.039 --> 00:03:12.150 Yeah, let's try and get him crying. 100 00:03:12.169 --> 00:03:13.389 Yeah, yeah. 101 00:03:13.449 --> 00:03:14.110 But this is the challenge. 102 00:03:14.129 --> 00:03:15.610 Click it up for Insta. Yeah, yeah. 103 00:03:16.409 --> 00:03:17.669 And watch the clicks roll in. 104 00:03:17.729 --> 00:03:21.210 Yeah, but we really want to get him crying on Insta. 105 00:03:21.610 --> 00:03:23.889 but we're not allowed to talk about anything that's gone on. 106 00:03:23.909 --> 00:03:25.770 We want a new thing to get him crying about. 107 00:03:25.870 --> 00:03:26.189 Okay. 108 00:03:26.409 --> 00:03:27.550 Let's see. I don't actually want him to cry. 109 00:03:27.610 --> 00:03:28.530 I feel really bad, actually. 110 00:03:28.550 --> 00:03:29.990 No, I'd feel awkward. It'd be horrible. 111 00:03:30.009 --> 00:03:32.030 How would you feel if our guest cried? I'd feel 112 00:03:32.250 --> 00:03:33.259 so awkward. 113 00:03:33.340 --> 00:03:36.060 Yeah, and I'd feel bad because I'd feel like... Oh, God. 114 00:03:36.219 --> 00:03:38.139 And then what do you do? Does Stephen Bartlett give 115 00:03:38.159 --> 00:03:40.219 them a tissue or something? 116 00:03:40.639 --> 00:03:44.120 Let's be honest today. We're sat... In a small room, 117 00:03:44.199 --> 00:03:46.680 no disrespect to the room, in Spotify. Yeah, we want 118 00:03:46.759 --> 00:03:49.819 no disrespect to the room. And, like, there's someone crying 119 00:03:49.870 --> 00:03:53.330 there who's only here to promote a tour, and suddenly 120 00:03:53.349 --> 00:03:55.889 they're crying, as if that's going to sell any tickets. 121 00:03:56.310 --> 00:03:57.210 To a comedy show. 122 00:03:57.289 --> 00:03:58.229 To a comedy show. 123 00:03:58.509 --> 00:03:59.990 I'm going to come and see your show. I saw 124 00:04:00.009 --> 00:04:01.250 you being really sad. 125 00:04:00.949 --> 00:04:03.310 On a podcast. Yeah, let's not get him crying. No, 126 00:04:03.349 --> 00:04:03.569 he won't. 127 00:04:03.620 --> 00:04:05.300 Let's take that back. He's not going to cry. We'll 128 00:04:05.319 --> 00:04:05.599 be all right. 129 00:04:05.919 --> 00:04:06.240 Here he is. 130 00:04:09.990 --> 00:04:12.389 No, so talk us through this. Because actually, we've spoke 131 00:04:12.430 --> 00:04:16.490 about the shoe trainer before. As dads, they're important. 132 00:04:16.610 --> 00:04:18.029 I don't believe in the shoe trainer. 133 00:04:18.730 --> 00:04:21.310 But I don't know why, despite wearing the shoe. 134 00:04:21.329 --> 00:04:25.329 So Sean's come

in, in the shoe trainer, and then said, 135 00:04:26.269 --> 00:04:27.810 I can see you're looking at these. 136 00:04:27.829 --> 00:04:29.610 I was worried about it. And neither of us were 137 00:04:29.629 --> 00:04:30.129 looking at them. 138 00:04:30.149 --> 00:04:32.829 What I was more concerned with, you've got like a 139 00:04:32.870 --> 00:04:36.230 smart shirt on a jumper and a baseball cap. Is 140 00:04:36.250 --> 00:04:38.610 that to avoid people recognising you? 141 00:04:38.629 --> 00:04:42.779 I'm a big deal in West London. Yeah, I have 142 00:04:42.800 --> 00:04:45.620 to have the cap down. No, it was raining. So 143 00:04:45.639 --> 00:04:48.860 the cap, it keeps the glasses dry, right? Oh, yeah, yeah. Glasses, people? 144 00:04:48.920 --> 00:04:52.740 Yeah, you're right. I thought there must be a reason. 145 00:04:53.730 --> 00:04:57.110 So you worried about the trainer show? Yeah, very much so. 146 00:04:57.129 --> 00:04:58.920 You look really well, though. Do I? 147 00:04:59.089 --> 00:05:00.750 I think you look really... I thought you were going 148 00:05:00.769 --> 00:05:02.709 to look more... I like that shirt. Your hair looks good. 149 00:05:03.500 --> 00:05:05.540 Glasses are great and you look quite healthy and the 150 00:05:05.579 --> 00:05:06.379 beard's on point. 151 00:05:06.500 --> 00:05:09.639 Okay. I think you look good. 152 00:05:09.670 --> 00:05:10.500 This is lovely. 153 00:05:10.610 --> 00:05:14.310 Thank you. Top up, head up. 154 00:05:15.029 --> 00:05:17.009 It's a shame we've done this in person on Zoom. 155 00:05:17.029 --> 00:05:21.449 You would have smashed it. 156 00:05:22.129 --> 00:05:23.790 Do you have, do you have, so this is to 157 00:05:23.810 --> 00:05:24.930 be more specific. No, I don't have trainer shoes. 158 00:05:24.990 --> 00:05:27.250 It's the smart, it's a brogue. I tell you why 159 00:05:27.269 --> 00:05:28.930 I don't have trainer shoes because I'm not a pundit 160 00:05:28.949 --> 00:05:29.730 on Football Focus. 161 00:05:32.089 --> 00:05:35.310 No, they're just trainers that are dark with. 162 00:05:34.910 --> 00:05:39.060 A white sole. These are brogues with a white trainer base. 163 00:05:39.120 --> 00:05:40.639 What do you call it? Sole. 164 00:05:40.860 --> 00:05:43.300 They are a smart shoe, but the sole is of 165 00:05:43.339 --> 00:05:44.699 a walking shoe trainer. 166 00:05:44.759 --> 00:05:46.540 Yes, but this is a white sole. This is a 167 00:05:46.540 --> 00:05:47.079 white sole. 168 00:05:47.259 --> 00:05:49.670 Is the sole actually bouncing soft like a trainer or 169 00:05:49.709 --> 00:05:51.029 is it just white like a trainer? 170 00:05:51.209 --> 00:05:51.269 No. 171 00:05:51.750 --> 00:05:54.819 No, it's a bit of bounce. That's why I've got it. 172 00:05:54.959 --> 00:05:58.139 Is this because you're kind of entering dad middle age? 173 00:05:58.819 --> 00:06:02.259 Do you reckon that's adjacent with lower back problems? Yes. 174 00:06:02.519 --> 00:06:03.879 I don't think it's the dad thing. I think it's 175 00:06:03.899 --> 00:06:05.839 just being older and your body can't take... Well, I 176 00:06:05.860 --> 00:06:06.459 got lower back. 177 00:06:06.379 --> 00:06:09.230 Problems when I had our second baby because he wouldn't 178 00:06:09.250 --> 00:06:13.029 be put down. So I was constantly... holding. 179 00:06:12.569 --> 00:06:15.810 And your arms are that weak all the pressure was 180 00:06:15.889 --> 00:06:16.850 on the lower back. 181 00:06:16.879 --> 00:06:19.300 It wasn't just that he wouldn't get put down he 182 00:06:19.319 --> 00:06:21.379 wouldn't sit that he wouldn't he wouldn't even let us 183 00:06:21.519 --> 00:06:26.379 sit so you're constantly stood and walking holding. 184 00:06:26.160 --> 00:06:29.490 Yes i can't now i i have to wear like 185 00:06:29.550 --> 00:06:32.310 a running trainer or something of a bit of bounce 186 00:06:32.350 --> 00:06:34.310 yes so when i have to wear shoes for anything 187 00:06:34.370 --> 00:06:38.500 like a smart gig or a corporate I'm a mess. 188 00:06:39.259 --> 00:06:41.800 A hard shoe sole. It's like walking on glass. 189 00:06:41.920 --> 00:06:45.079 I'm just like, this is not okay. You're like, why 190 00:06:45.100 --> 00:06:46.100 is anyone doing this? 191 00:06:46.160 --> 00:06:47.879 I've actually bought, and I sent you the link, I 192 00:06:47.920 --> 00:06:50.439 bought a pair of loafers when I was in Japan, 193 00:06:50.459 --> 00:06:54.980 because in Japan, ASICs now do smart shoes, but it 194 00:06:55.000 --> 00:06:57.430 hasn't got like the white thing on to show you. 195 00:06:57.639 --> 00:06:59.769 They're all black, so it looks like smart shoes, but 196 00:06:59.810 --> 00:07:00.410 with ASICs. 197 00:07:00.430 --> 00:07:01.050 Camouflage. 198 00:07:01.110 --> 00:07:01.569 Bounce. 199 00:07:01.769 --> 00:07:03.610 Kids used to get in trouble at school for wearing 200 00:07:03.649 --> 00:07:07.509 a black trainer. Like at secondary school, some kids would 201 00:07:07.529 --> 00:07:07.970 try and get. 202 00:07:07.930 --> 00:07:10.810 Away with a black train. Yes, you're right. It never 203 00:07:10.850 --> 00:07:13.189 pulled the wool over their head. The bubble gave it away. 204 00:07:15.879 --> 00:07:19.620 The lights on the bottom. I got told by, what 205 00:07:19.639 --> 00:07:22.040 did I see? I've seen them all, but I think 206 00:07:22.079 --> 00:07:24.800 it was the physio that said that what's happened is 207 00:07:25.399 --> 00:07:27.540 the reason I've got a bad lower back is because 208 00:07:27.560 --> 00:07:31.980 I have a flat left foot. So what's happened is 209 00:07:32.500 --> 00:07:35.649 my right knee, you start hearing this phrase, you've probably 210 00:07:35.689 --> 00:07:39.230 heard it used for yourselves, maybe overcompensating? 211 00:07:39.509 --> 00:07:43.779 Oh yeah, for my personality. I've been accused of that loads. 212 00:07:43.980 --> 00:07:45.000 He presents confident. 213 00:07:46.300 -->

00:07:50.740 I'm physically doing it. So the right knee had to 214 00:07:51.199 --> 00:07:55.139 compensate for the left foot. So the right knee went out, 215 00:07:55.180 --> 00:07:57.769 but it overcompensated. And then the left side of my 216 00:07:57.829 --> 00:08:01.649 hip had to compensate for my right knee. And that overcompensated, 217 00:08:01.670 --> 00:08:04.990 which has twisted my background. And the doctor, well, it 218 00:08:05.009 --> 00:08:07.129 was the doctor, the physio told me, and these were 219 00:08:07.149 --> 00:08:10.310 his exact words, that for my entire life, I've been 220 00:08:10.430 --> 00:08:15.879 facing the wrong way. LAUGHTER I don't know how you 221 00:08:15.939 --> 00:08:18.600 don't know that. I've been like a kind of toy 222 00:08:18.639 --> 00:08:21.439 figure that's not been straightened up after you've played with it. 223 00:08:21.620 --> 00:08:23.139 Is that why you walk back and forth on stage 224 00:08:23.180 --> 00:08:23.620 so much? 225 00:08:23.680 --> 00:08:25.879 Yes, exactly. To try and line up. 226 00:08:26.040 --> 00:08:28.689 Have you ever been to a chiropractor? Yes, I've been 227 00:08:28.709 --> 00:08:30.449 to them all. Yeah, so that helped me because I've 228 00:08:30.509 --> 00:08:33.690 got a hypermobile hip which then makes. 229 00:08:33.730 --> 00:08:35.750 Because it spreads out. See, which then does something else. 230 00:08:35.769 --> 00:08:37.509 Yeah, and then that does my lower back and that's 231 00:08:37.529 --> 00:08:39.070 why I have to wear special shoes as well. 232 00:08:39.100 --> 00:08:40.860 Have I told you that when I went to a hypnotherapist? 233 00:08:41.929 --> 00:08:45.830 So I went to a hypnotherapist for insomnia and halfway 234 00:08:45.929 --> 00:08:49.899 through he stopped because an eBay auction he was doing 235 00:08:50.019 --> 00:08:50.740 was finishing. 236 00:08:51.820 --> 00:08:54.779 No. And I was like, is this part of it? Like, 237 00:08:54.860 --> 00:08:57.539 is this part of what's happening to me? 238 00:08:57.559 --> 00:09:00.830 So he stopped, won an eBay auction and then resumed 239 00:09:00.850 --> 00:09:02.289 the kind of consultation. 240 00:09:02.509 --> 00:09:05.490 Did it fix it? No. No, okay. So eBay's not working. 241 00:09:05.529 --> 00:09:08.090 I find that insomnia, it's always more intriguing because if 242 00:09:08.110 --> 00:09:09.990 someone says they've got a bad back, I just take 243 00:09:10.009 --> 00:09:11.870 it as, oh, they've got a bad back. If someone goes, 244 00:09:11.889 --> 00:09:14.450 I've got insomnia, I just talk about how much you're sleeping. 245 00:09:14.730 --> 00:09:17.149 Premature ejaculation. All right, well, how quick. Yeah, I mean, 246 00:09:17.169 --> 00:09:17.659 there's always an. 247 00:09:17.700 --> 00:09:20.419 Extra follow-up question. 248 00:09:19.539 --> 00:09:22.460 Where you do a quick bit of comparison to diagnose yourself. 249 00:09:22.480 --> 00:09:25.279 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I didn't have insomnia. 250 00:09:25.299 --> 00:09:27.460 I was having a breakdown. Right, okay. 251 00:09:27.980 --> 00:09:29.080 That was a symptom, not the cause. 252 00:09:29.100 --> 00:09:32.730 It was a symptom, yeah. And I refused to accept the. 253 00:09:33.340 --> 00:09:35.750 Both therapists and doctors were making that clear to me, 254 00:09:35.779 --> 00:09:38.159 so I went to a hypnotherapist to try and prove 255 00:09:38.179 --> 00:09:39.570 that it was just insomnia. 256 00:09:40.409 --> 00:09:41.710 Yes, that's it. 257 00:09:41.870 --> 00:09:44.090 I don't know. I don't like your diagnosis. Dentist. I'm 258 00:09:44.110 --> 00:09:45.029 going to go to the dentist now. 259 00:09:45.090 --> 00:09:47.009 I'm going to go for a second opinion, and that's 260 00:09:47.029 --> 00:09:47.789 Paul McKenna. 261 00:09:47.809 --> 00:09:50.149 Third opinion. Oh, dear. 262 00:09:50.169 --> 00:09:51.610 Well, it's good to know that we're all old men 263 00:09:51.669 --> 00:09:52.370 in our. 264 00:09:52.210 --> 00:09:52.970 40s falling apart. 265 00:09:53.250 --> 00:09:54.649 So tell me about your children. 266 00:09:54.669 --> 00:09:57.769 Here we go. So last time there was one. Yeah. 267 00:09:57.929 --> 00:10:00.940 Now there's two. As you both know, everyone... There's a 268 00:10:00.940 --> 00:10:04.340 third on the way. Oh, God, no. Jesus wept. 269 00:10:04.899 --> 00:10:06.379 Be aware that if you do have a third child, 270 00:10:06.419 --> 00:10:07.080 they will hear that. 271 00:10:09.700 --> 00:10:11.480 Come on, guys. Please. 272 00:10:12.700 --> 00:10:13.679 Three is mad, isn't it? 273 00:10:14.299 --> 00:10:18.360 That's insanity. Are we all staying here at two? Oh, yeah. 274 00:10:18.379 --> 00:10:20.350 The only way that we go three is some sort 275 00:10:20.370 --> 00:10:21.149 of problem. 276 00:10:21.710 --> 00:10:24.470 Yeah. Like a different man getting involved. 277 00:10:24.490 --> 00:10:25.490 Yeah, Lou Essex with another man. 278 00:10:26.269 --> 00:10:32.100 Lou Essex. Yeah. But so the jump from, you know, 279 00:10:32.120 --> 00:10:34.440 this is standard now. The jump from one to two 280 00:10:34.539 --> 00:10:36.620 is it's not just one to two. It's kind of 281 00:10:36.720 --> 00:10:38.940 one times. Yes. Isn't it? 282 00:10:39.779 --> 00:10:42.220 You're there quite. There's a was it two year age 283 00:10:42.259 --> 00:10:44.639 gap bang on to your pretty, pretty much two under 284 00:10:44.679 --> 00:10:45.879 two when your baby arrived. 285 00:10:45.940 --> 00:10:49.590 Yeah. He's he's eight months. She's about to turn three. 286 00:10:50.419 --> 00:10:50.950 So it's a bit over? 287 00:10:51.350 --> 00:10:52.309 Yeah, a bit over, but. 288 00:10:52.750 --> 00:10:55.529 Yeah. It's a lot, isn't it? Yes. I'm tired. 289 00:10:55.610 --> 00:10:57.769 Talk to me about your last night. Well, let me 290 00:10:57.830 --> 00:11:01.090 tell you... Last night? Well, like, talk to me... Well, 291 00:11:01.230 -->

00:11:02.009 let me just tell you. 292 00:11:02.029 --> 00:11:05.409 What happened? Because you might have forgotten the levels of exhaustion. 293 00:11:05.450 --> 00:11:08.570 Are you still exhausted? Or have you got through this? Well, 294 00:11:08.710 --> 00:11:10.049 not since I went to the hypnotist. 295 00:11:11.090 --> 00:11:13.110 His strike rate's phenomenal. 296 00:11:15.090 --> 00:11:19.019 Also, I've got a rave flyer that he bought for £ 12. 297 00:11:18.840 --> 00:11:21.840 50 for me. That's what he was buying on eBay. Unbelievable. 298 00:11:22.039 --> 00:11:23.440 An old rave flyer. 299 00:11:23.860 --> 00:11:25.779 Oh, my God. This is fucking lunatic. 300 00:11:25.799 --> 00:11:26.480 Yeah, exactly. 301 00:11:26.519 --> 00:11:27.980 This wasn't in London. Was this in London? 302 00:11:28.279 --> 00:11:29.500 Yeah, of course it was in London. 303 00:11:29.539 --> 00:11:30.700 Where did you find him? 304 00:11:31.840 --> 00:11:32.659 Online. 305 00:11:33.059 --> 00:11:33.240 Yeah. 306 00:11:33.320 --> 00:11:35.000 You Googled the hypnotist. 307 00:11:35.539 --> 00:11:36.450 Hypnotherapist. 308 00:11:36.769 --> 00:11:38.169 And how many did you scroll down? 309 00:11:39.850 --> 00:11:41.250 Well, no, I didn't bother scrolling down. 310 00:11:41.269 --> 00:11:42.210 The sponsored. 311 00:11:42.309 --> 00:11:42.990 Yeah, the sponsored. 312 00:11:44.490 --> 00:11:49.450 I turned up early and he said, of course you're early. Insomniacs, 313 00:11:49.809 --> 00:11:53.269 early because they want to be cured. Smoking, always late 314 00:11:53.289 --> 00:11:54.250 because they don't want to be cured. 315 00:11:54.820 --> 00:11:56.600 That's a good, that's a good line. 316 00:11:56.659 --> 00:11:59.320 Yeah, good line, good line. He knows that as well. Yeah. 317 00:12:00.039 --> 00:12:01.639 And you hear that and then you leave and you 318 00:12:01.700 --> 00:12:03.649 hear him say that to the next person and so on. 319 00:12:03.679 --> 00:12:05.019 And you feel good because like, yeah, I'm one of 320 00:12:05.039 --> 00:12:05.720 the ones that won it. 321 00:12:05.919 --> 00:12:07.240 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. 322 00:12:07.259 --> 00:12:09.940 I bet he doesn't say that to the smokers. And 323 00:12:09.960 --> 00:12:12.590 he had like loads of, lighters on his wall where 324 00:12:12.610 --> 00:12:14.070 people had handed in their lighters. 325 00:12:14.370 --> 00:12:18.549 Sorry, Josh, we've invited Sean on to talk about his 326 00:12:18.629 --> 00:12:21.600 children and his tour. We're now just listening to you talk. 327 00:12:21.480 --> 00:12:24.419 About your therapy. It was West London. You like West London. 328 00:12:24.480 --> 00:12:25.399 I do like West London. 329 00:12:25.419 --> 00:12:30.340 This is the most mental power play. Sean's exhausted. He's 330 00:12:30.379 --> 00:12:31.440 got another talk show to wrap up. 331 00:12:31.450 --> 00:12:31.830 I am exhausted. 332 00:12:31.919 --> 00:12:33.169 And you've brought him in

and now he's. 333 00:12:33.110 --> 00:12:34.690 Got a nod. It's our fourth interview of the day. 334 00:12:35.009 --> 00:12:37.570 I know. I can't believe you're on your fourth. I'm 335 00:12:37.590 --> 00:12:41.529 getting the dregs. The absolute. You are like, both of you, 336 00:12:41.610 --> 00:12:43.840 low on battery. No, I'm full of beans. 337 00:12:43.860 --> 00:12:44.820 No, good, good. 338 00:12:44.899 --> 00:12:47.759 No, I am. I am. I was in Kennington recently 339 00:12:48.200 --> 00:12:50.500 and I had had no sleep because of the kids. 340 00:12:50.539 --> 00:12:52.659 Have you ever been at this point... I was walking 341 00:12:52.679 --> 00:12:54.500 down the street on the pavement and I noticed that 342 00:12:54.549 --> 00:12:57.789 it was clear. No people, no bins, no lampposts. And 343 00:12:57.830 --> 00:12:59.509 I thought, I'm going for it. And I did it 344 00:12:59.789 --> 00:13:02.559 with my eyes shut. And that's where I got my nap. 345 00:13:02.620 --> 00:13:06.259 I was walking with my eyes closed. I'm trying to 346 00:13:06.279 --> 00:13:11.529 combine walking and sleeping. Amazing. To try and make myself 347 00:13:11.549 --> 00:13:14.809 kind of active sleepwalk from destinations. 348 00:13:15.190 --> 00:13:17.870 In answer to your question, we're not as tired as 349 00:13:18.129 --> 00:13:19.649 we were when they were there. 350 00:13:19.700 --> 00:13:22.820 When I have a bad night, when something happens, like 351 00:13:22.960 --> 00:13:25.279 I get back late from a tour show and then I. 352 00:13:25.279 --> 00:13:28.340 Have to get up, I go, oh, this is what 353 00:13:28.379 --> 00:13:28.960 it felt like. 354 00:13:29.259 --> 00:13:31.409 You get little flashbacks to it when you've got it 355 00:13:31.419 --> 00:13:31.870 every day. 356 00:13:32.090 --> 00:13:33.690 So what have I got to look forward to? Does 357 00:13:33.710 --> 00:13:35.830 it get easier? This fucking mess. Yeah. 358 00:13:38.080 --> 00:13:40.720 He's in the clear. You're looking at a man on 359 00:13:40.799 --> 00:13:41.500 Easy Street. 360 00:13:41.519 --> 00:13:48.570 Don't move three hours from your studio. That's my take. 361 00:13:48.610 --> 00:13:53.870 That's the lesson there. 362 00:13:53.909 --> 00:13:55.690 The clouds will clear in about two years. 363 00:13:55.990 --> 00:13:58.789 Two years. That's what I've got to look forward to. 364 00:13:59.500 --> 00:14:03.279 How is Christmas? Because Christmas is tough with kids that 365 00:14:03.299 --> 00:14:03.899 don't care. 366 00:14:04.519 --> 00:14:05.360 No, no, no, no. 367 00:14:05.399 --> 00:14:06.759 Wilder's about to turn three. 368 00:14:06.779 --> 00:14:10.519 No, no, no, but like one young kid that doesn't care. 369 00:14:10.659 --> 00:14:13.980 I don't think... Our Christmas wasn't tough. I've never been 370 00:14:14.000 --> 00:14:14.759 a Christmas guy. 371 00:14:14.779 --> 00:14:14.840 No. 372 00:14:15.659 --> 00:14:20.710 Because, as you both know, my dad was into heroin. Yeah. But, 373 00:14:20.759 --> 00:14:24.019 of course, what that means is that Christmas isn't... It's 374 00:14:24.059 --> 00:14:26.820 not necessarily a priority in the Walsh household. 375 00:14:26.860 --> 00:14:28.870 Is it nice, though, for you? Because in a way, 376 00:14:29.019 --> 00:14:32.269 as a parent, the pressure's off because you're already offering 377 00:14:32.289 --> 00:14:35.629 a much calmer household than what you experienced. 378 00:14:36.149 --> 00:14:39.370 Oh, no, because I think... No, you're quite calm on heroin. 379 00:14:40.669 --> 00:14:42.639 I'll give you an example. I don't know the high, 380 00:14:42.759 --> 00:14:48.320 but me and my brother were playing FIFA on the PS1. 381 00:14:48.759 --> 00:14:54.500 So 32-bit. Remember those graphics? And my dad, he was 382 00:14:54.519 --> 00:14:57.240 sat there in the living room smoking heroin whilst we 383 00:14:57.259 --> 00:15:01.419 were playing this. And he thought, genuinely, hand on heart, 384 00:15:01.539 --> 00:15:04.519 he thought he was watching Match of the Day. That's 385 00:15:04.559 --> 00:15:06.440 how off his nut he was. He thought a 32-bit... 386 00:15:08.480 --> 00:15:10.899 playstation one feta was match of the day i. 387 00:15:11.559 --> 00:15:13.419 Thought this was match of the day i no wonder 388 00:15:13.440 --> 00:15:17.470 i was confused because it was qpr versus qpr it 389 00:15:17.490 --> 00:15:21.590 was 90s before half time nine bicycle kicks i'm outside 390 00:15:21.610 --> 00:15:26.610 the box impressive game so what's his role. 391 00:15:26.389 --> 00:15:29.570 Now oh my god my dad is i love my 392 00:15:29.610 --> 00:15:31.870 dad and you know but he's obviously scorched his brain 393 00:15:31.889 --> 00:15:33.779 for god's sake he's in his he's in his 70s 394 00:15:33.789 --> 00:15:36.850 but you know He got my daughter's, God bless him. 395 00:15:37.330 --> 00:15:40.779 He got his, and my brain, unfortunately, you know, I mean, 396 00:15:40.799 --> 00:15:43.299 he's my dad. So there are things that are being 397 00:15:43.340 --> 00:15:47.019 passed down. He got my daughter's name right for the 398 00:15:47.100 --> 00:15:50.000 first time a couple of weeks ago. Oh, really? 399 00:15:50.019 --> 00:15:51.559 You know, that's nearly. 400 00:15:51.179 --> 00:15:54.360 Three years in and wilder. You got it. Well done. 401 00:15:54.580 --> 00:15:56.720 And one of the, I can only remember one of 402 00:15:56.820 --> 00:15:58.059 the guesses up until that point. 403 00:15:58.080 --> 00:15:59.320 See, what I thought you was going to say when 404 00:15:59.360 --> 00:16:00.940 you said my dad got, I thought he was going 405 00:16:00.980 --> 00:16:02.559 to tell us about a Christmas present, but you were 406 00:16:02.580 --> 00:16:04.639 talking about got the name right. 407 00:16:05.000 --> 00:16:06.259 Yeah, exactly. 408 00:16:06.340 --> 00:16:08.200 He got a little outfit that was a bit young 409 00:16:08.240 --> 00:16:12.490 for it, didn't

fit. No, no, we're up to name. Exactly. 410 00:16:12.830 --> 00:16:15.509 I'm not even sure he knows about Our son? Yeah, 411 00:16:15.529 --> 00:16:18.009 did you know there's two yet? I'm really not sure. 412 00:16:18.350 --> 00:16:20.750 One of the guesses he had for my daughter's name 413 00:16:20.769 --> 00:16:21.070 was Weetabix. 414 00:16:21.090 --> 00:16:21.909 Do you mind talking about this? 415 00:16:21.929 --> 00:16:24.389 Not at all. It's all fine. And, you know, it's 416 00:16:24.429 --> 00:16:27.029 my life. Yes, of course. That's the thing. It's my normal. 417 00:16:27.049 --> 00:16:29.690 You know, we all know that. So, I mean, one 418 00:16:29.730 --> 00:16:33.429 guess for my daughter's name was Weetabix. How's Weetabix? Dad, 419 00:16:33.450 --> 00:16:37.529 that's obviously... Come on, mate. That's mental. Wheat is not 420 00:16:37.549 --> 00:16:38.389 a wheat biscuit, is she? 421 00:16:38.409 --> 00:16:40.750 Heroin can't have the whole blame for that. Exactly. 422 00:16:40.769 --> 00:16:41.710 Do you know what I mean? 423 00:16:41.789 --> 00:16:44.350 Even heroin's going, come on, let me have a break. 424 00:16:46.289 --> 00:16:49.970 Exactly. So, yeah, there is that kind of those blotches. 425 00:16:50.129 --> 00:16:52.549 But what I was going to say was it means 426 00:16:52.610 --> 00:16:56.460 that those kind of more traditional, what are they, values 427 00:16:56.480 --> 00:17:00.899 that you get as a family, we didn't necessarily have those. So, 428 00:17:00.960 --> 00:17:03.759 you know, Christmas wasn't a big thing in my house. 429 00:17:03.799 --> 00:17:05.359 So have you. 430 00:17:05.200 --> 00:17:08.690 Been liberated by that or have you gone towards it now? 431 00:17:08.710 --> 00:17:12.509 Because you didn't have that. Are you strong on, like, 432 00:17:12.710 --> 00:17:13.990 Christmas and birthdays? 433 00:17:14.440 --> 00:17:16.660 I don't know if I'm strong on it, but I've really, 434 00:17:17.140 --> 00:17:20.269 since having Wilder, I've only first been aware of the 435 00:17:20.309 --> 00:17:23.789 appreciation for it. I've only just begun to find the 436 00:17:23.829 --> 00:17:27.049 kind of beauty in the lights at Oxford Street. I 437 00:17:27.150 --> 00:17:31.309 now like it. It now does symbolise something. It does 438 00:17:31.390 --> 00:17:37.460 symbolise family. So she's turning three. She was aware of Christmas. 439 00:17:37.480 --> 00:17:39.319 She was aware of Santa Claus. and to watch her 440 00:17:39.380 --> 00:17:43.069 excited for something, and getting to... I mean, you must 441 00:17:43.109 --> 00:17:44.970 have gone over this. You must go over this every year. 442 00:17:45.210 --> 00:17:48.670 But getting to use Santa as a means to get 443 00:17:48.750 --> 00:17:49.609 her to behave. 444 00:17:49.769 --> 00:17:51.950 No, I would never do that, no. 445 00:17:51.990 --> 00:17:52.289 Come on. 446 00:17:52.750 --> 00:17:54.930 No, we're against that on this podcast, aren't we, Rob? 447 00:17:55.190 --> 00:17:57.839 Well, it is frowned upon in the parents'... No, I'm joking! 448 00:18:01.069 --> 00:18:02.890 Have you done the thing where you're on the phone 449 00:18:02.930 --> 00:18:07.450 to him? No. I've got Santa's number. Oh, absolutely right. 450 00:18:07.519 --> 00:18:10.180 I'm on the phone to Santa. No, no, you're not 451 00:18:10.200 --> 00:18:12.500 getting the... Yeah, the Elsa dress. Cancel it. 452 00:18:12.779 --> 00:18:13.779 Would you do that in front of her? 453 00:18:14.200 --> 00:18:14.960 Absolutely. 454 00:18:15.160 --> 00:18:16.380 Oh, that is a bit strong, though. 455 00:18:17.710 --> 00:18:21.150 Not too heavy. Is that too heavy? God, yeah, in 2020. 456 00:18:21.150 --> 00:18:23.509 And what would she be doing at that point? Eating 457 00:18:23.529 --> 00:18:27.309 a second biscuit? It would be like she might have 458 00:18:27.690 --> 00:18:29.750 tugged Mildred's hair. Mildred's my dog. 459 00:18:30.569 --> 00:18:32.529 Oh, something she knows she really shouldn't be doing. 460 00:18:32.630 --> 00:18:32.910 Exactly. 461 00:18:32.930 --> 00:18:33.789 And it is quite, yeah. 462 00:18:33.809 --> 00:18:35.970 And then you want the apology, make sure you apologise 463 00:18:36.009 --> 00:18:36.450 to Mildred. 464 00:18:36.529 --> 00:18:39.549 I'm not apologising to Mildred! Oh, and then Santa helps 465 00:18:39.569 --> 00:18:40.630 with the apology. 466 00:18:40.809 --> 00:18:42.470 I'd say there is an argument that you're making a 467 00:18:42.470 --> 00:18:43.609 child apologise. 468 00:18:43.190 --> 00:18:43.589 To a dog. 469 00:18:43.809 --> 00:18:45.990 Well, apparently Lucy's making... So who's the mad one there? 470 00:18:46.490 --> 00:18:50.250 And then you're phoning... Spoiler alert, an invisible man. 471 00:18:51.869 --> 00:18:54.849 Now, does your partner, Grace, lead more of the... Because 472 00:18:54.890 --> 00:18:56.490 I imagine she had a bit more of a traditional 473 00:18:56.529 --> 00:18:58.029 upbringing with Christmas. 474 00:18:58.170 --> 00:18:58.609 Yes, very much so. 475 00:18:58.630 --> 00:19:01.029 Will she introduce stuff that you'll go, well, we don't 476 00:19:01.049 --> 00:19:03.529 need to do that, what's that? And then as you 477 00:19:04.069 --> 00:19:05.589 enjoy it with her, you go, oh, I can see 478 00:19:05.670 --> 00:19:08.269 why people like this at Christmas and that sort of family, 479 00:19:08.329 --> 00:19:10.430 any sort of family traditions. Because I remember when I 480 00:19:10.470 --> 00:19:12.730 used to put stuff out for Father Christmas on our 481 00:19:12.769 --> 00:19:16.559 front doorstep because we didn't have a chimney. We lived 482 00:19:16.579 --> 00:19:17.819 in a terraced house. We used to live in the 483 00:19:17.839 --> 00:19:20.779 front doorstep. So then, like, when I was with Lou 484 00:19:20.799 --> 00:19:21.700 and the kids, I was like, right, let's go and 485 00:19:21.720 --> 00:19:22.700 put it on the front doorstep. She went, what are 486

00:19:22.720 --> 00:19:23.619 you putting the fucking doorstep for? 487 00:19:23.920 --> 00:19:25.430 Right, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because that's what you do it. 488 00:19:31.940 --> 00:19:35.589 Are you as loud and frenetic at home with your 489 00:19:35.619 --> 00:19:38.289 children or are you a calmer presence than when you're 490 00:19:38.410 --> 00:19:39.130 with me and Rob? 491 00:19:40.289 --> 00:19:44.710 I think I'm very soft with what's happened. I don't 492 00:19:44.759 --> 00:19:47.380 know if you guys had this. Grace has kind of 493 00:19:47.579 --> 00:19:51.460 had to take kind of main lead with, casper our 494 00:19:51.500 --> 00:19:55.460 son and so at that point when that happened i 495 00:19:55.500 --> 00:19:58.339 then got more time yeah with wilder with wilder we 496 00:19:58.380 --> 00:20:03.369 go on with it was shredded wheat absolutely we shred it. 497 00:20:05.420 --> 00:20:06.759 He could do cereal for hours. 498 00:20:06.799 --> 00:20:07.359 Yeah. 499 00:20:07.380 --> 00:20:10.359 That's his ballpark. He'll start whipping out ones you forgot about. 500 00:20:10.380 --> 00:20:11.940 Professor Wheat O's will come up in a minute. 501 00:20:13.099 --> 00:20:20.690 Bicycles or the astronaut? Yeah, yeah. Captain Rick. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, 502 00:20:20.710 --> 00:20:24.369 you've got more Tyler Wilder. So, I think I'm probably, 503 00:20:24.390 --> 00:20:28.390 I don't know. They're so sweet and so cute that 504 00:20:28.529 --> 00:20:30.339 I'm a lot softer. Yeah. 505 00:20:30.380 --> 00:20:32.319 Yeah, but you are like, you're at work and you're 506 00:20:32.339 --> 00:20:33.940 on a podcast before. If you come in and be 507 00:20:33.980 --> 00:20:38.509 in That is your energy on stuff. I'm not constantly 508 00:20:38.529 --> 00:20:41.369 cracking jokes with the kids. Well, actually, I'm quite a bit. 509 00:20:42.130 --> 00:20:44.549 We go on like Daddy Day. We have Daddy Day 510 00:20:44.589 --> 00:20:45.869 where I take Wilder out. 511 00:20:46.089 --> 00:20:47.430 What do you do on a Daddy Day? 512 00:20:47.509 --> 00:20:49.670 Well, the last Daddy Day we went to, because she 513 00:20:49.720 --> 00:20:52.880 had had the Peppa Pig. She's not been to QPR yet. 514 00:20:53.019 --> 00:20:55.759 Because she had the Peppa Pig Goes to London book. Yeah. 515 00:20:55.819 --> 00:20:57.890 And Big Ben was on that. So I thought it'd 516 00:20:57.910 --> 00:20:59.940 be fun to show her the things in the Peppa 517 00:20:59.980 --> 00:21:04.349 Pig book and take her on the boat, the boat 518 00:21:04.410 --> 00:21:05.029 on the Thames. 519 00:21:05.309 --> 00:21:07.029 Have you seen there's a Peppa Pig tour bus you 520 00:21:07.049 --> 00:21:08.130 can do where you have afternoon tea? 521 00:21:08.650 --> 00:21:11.470 I mean, that sounds incredible. Yeah, so it's like a little. 522 00:21:11.319 --> 00:21:13.380 Peppa Pig-themed bus and there's an afternoon tea and there's like. 523 00:21:13.460 --> 00:21:13.880 Have you done this? 524

00:21:13.900 --> 00:21:15.759 Yeah, there's a little video. We did it together one 525 00:21:15.799 --> 00:21:18.339 Christmas and there's little videos where it tells you. 526 00:21:18.480 --> 00:21:20.880 You'd enjoy it, sure. Do you enjoy that kind of... 527 00:21:20.940 --> 00:21:24.240 Do you enjoy kids' entertainment stuff? That's my favourite thing 528 00:21:24.279 --> 00:21:27.049 in the world. That's the stuff that you don't... Before 529 00:21:27.069 --> 00:21:30.210 you've had kids, you don't really... You're not really aware 530 00:21:30.250 --> 00:21:31.470 of this world that's about to open. 531 00:21:31.490 --> 00:21:32.829 If you didn't have kids and you wanted to go 532 00:21:32.849 --> 00:21:34.750 on a tour bus to listen to a cartoon pig 533 00:21:34.789 --> 00:21:38.180 and eat a sandwich, you'd get sectioned. But that's amazing. 534 00:21:38.200 --> 00:21:39.440 If she loves Peppa Pig, she'll love that. 535 00:21:40.099 --> 00:21:43.240 She'll be like, yeah, I'll check that out. And so, yeah, 536 00:21:43.500 --> 00:21:46.420 those days, and they bring out a version. What they 537 00:21:46.460 --> 00:21:50.900 do is they connect you with your childhood, I think. Yes. 538 00:21:51.460 --> 00:21:54.220 So well, and it's beautiful to be kind of taken 539 00:21:54.259 --> 00:21:55.019 back in time. 540 00:21:55.039 --> 00:21:57.039 And are you going to take them to QPR? 541 00:21:57.460 --> 00:22:01.660 Grace wants me to take Wilder to QPR now. I 542 00:22:01.680 --> 00:22:03.720 think she'd be quite scared by how I get. 543 00:22:03.880 --> 00:22:05.440 Yeah, but you won't be the same person. 544 00:22:06.240 --> 00:22:08.019 But I like to be that. I like to be that. 545 00:22:08.680 --> 00:22:10.799 You've got to learn to hide who you are for 546 00:22:10.819 --> 00:22:11.480 your children, Sean. 547 00:22:12.240 --> 00:22:15.700 That's what it is, isn't it? Yeah. That's what parenting is. Lino! 548 00:22:15.940 --> 00:22:16.849 Lino! 549 00:22:16.960 --> 00:22:20.609 Exactly. Fucking push up! We'll go and see Big Ben. 550 00:22:20.490 --> 00:22:21.609 In a minute. Move! 551 00:22:22.190 --> 00:22:24.869 What I'm always shouting is, which is why I sound mad. 552 00:22:24.930 --> 00:22:28.250 I've never heard anyone else shout this. Why are you walking? 553 00:22:30.410 --> 00:22:34.269 I hate watching football players walk run we've got to 554 00:22:34.309 --> 00:22:36.289 throw in run. 555 00:22:39.289 --> 00:22:42.730 But yes so if you shout keep your power walking 556 00:22:42.750 --> 00:22:44.740 to do a throw in you shout while you're walking. 557 00:22:44.839 --> 00:22:49.980 If we're 1-0 down yes absolutely drives me mad. 558 00:22:50.079 --> 00:22:51.779 Yeah, don't take her yet. 559 00:22:51.839 --> 00:22:55.549 Yeah, don't take her yet. Exactly, don't take her yet. 560 00:22:55.569 --> 00:22:59.769 The day after, you just see Wilder running everywhere. Yeah, exactly. 561 00:22:59.789 --> 00:23:00.970 Just in case Daddy sees me walk. 562 00:23:01.609 --> 00:23:03.509 But I have questions for you because I don't... A 563 00:23:03.549 --> 00:23:06.089 lot of my friends... Whoa, whoa, whoa. That's not how 564 00:23:06.109 --> 00:23:09.279 the podcast works. Because I need... I don't have many... 565 00:23:09.779 --> 00:23:13.279 I don't socialise with many friends that have children. And also, 566 00:23:13.559 --> 00:23:16.759 having kids means I don't socialise much. You guys are 567 00:23:16.799 --> 00:23:21.839 at work. I'm actually meeting mates. My whole social life 568 00:23:21.900 --> 00:23:25.740 now is work-based. Yeah. Well, I think that what happens is, 569 00:23:26.009 --> 00:23:28.549 and this is probably a kind of combination between. 570 00:23:28.569 --> 00:23:32.759 Also, you don't drink anymore. And you're not comfortable in 571 00:23:32.779 --> 00:23:33.980 yourself when you're not drinking. 572 00:23:34.200 --> 00:23:35.940 So how are you going to go out anyway? 573 00:23:35.960 --> 00:23:38.329 Sorry, are you having a conversation with yourself? 574 00:23:38.710 --> 00:23:43.990 Well, basically, not far off. But I was quite lucky, actually. 575 00:23:44.210 --> 00:23:46.789 I think I was lucky in that when I became 576 00:23:46.829 --> 00:23:50.799 a parent for the first time with Wilder, that my life... Did, 577 00:23:50.900 --> 00:23:53.319 all right, okay, we're being kept up during the night. 578 00:23:53.559 --> 00:23:55.140 And all right, you don't just kind of get to 579 00:23:55.180 --> 00:23:58.170 nap and turn on the telly. But it wasn't like 580 00:23:58.309 --> 00:24:00.490 suddenly my kind of world, as I knew it, had 581 00:24:00.509 --> 00:24:02.430 been pulled away from me. I didn't go to the 582 00:24:02.470 --> 00:24:06.710 pub anyway. I didn't see anyone. So it wasn't this 583 00:24:06.769 --> 00:24:10.289 total shift. It was just children entered the world. 584 00:24:10.490 --> 00:24:13.730 Yeah, but you'd done a self-imposed sort of less going out. 585 00:24:13.750 --> 00:24:15.599 Because most people have kids, they stop going out as 586 00:24:15.630 --> 00:24:17.420 much and it gets a bit less crazy. But you'd 587 00:24:17.440 --> 00:24:18.099 already done that yourself. 588 00:24:18.200 --> 00:24:19.779 I wish I'd done it in the order you did. 589 00:24:20.759 --> 00:24:22.660 Because I had a couple of years of overlap where 590 00:24:22.680 --> 00:24:23.680 I hadn't made my peace. 591 00:24:23.799 --> 00:24:26.920 I mean, doing... I can't... You know, I've not. 592 00:24:26.960 --> 00:24:28.609 Not where I was going out all the time. But 593 00:24:28.630 --> 00:24:31.309 what I mean is where the thought was there, but 594 00:24:31.349 --> 00:24:31.970 now it's not. 595 00:24:32.150 --> 00:24:34.730 But you two must have, at some point, as, of course, 596 00:24:34.769 --> 00:24:37.170 many of the listeners have parented, hung over. 597 00:24:37.289 --> 00:24:37.789 Still do. 598 00:24:37.869 --> 00:24:45.369 Like you

pussies. That is unfathomable. I can't imagine. That's like... 599 00:24:45.170 --> 00:24:47.269 How many years since you had a drink? I think six. 600 00:24:48.089 --> 00:24:50.470 Or something like that. Often people want to know why 601 00:24:50.799 --> 00:24:52.819 you've not. It's always they want to know why. And 602 00:24:52.859 --> 00:24:55.839 I think it's only ever two reasons. You're boring or 603 00:24:55.859 --> 00:24:59.559 you're too much fun. It's basically alcohol never really agreed 604 00:24:59.599 --> 00:25:02.089 with me or I fucked a badger. And it's one 605 00:25:02.150 --> 00:25:04.410 of those two. And I'll let you guess which one 606 00:25:04.470 --> 00:25:07.470 I am. Yes, exactly. But yeah, so no drinking. And 607 00:25:07.509 --> 00:25:09.990 I think I'm quite pleased about that because obviously with 608 00:25:10.009 --> 00:25:15.039 my dad's addiction and then cutting out alcohol, I'm hoping... 609 00:25:15.160 --> 00:25:17.720 We don't know. You know, the results are yet to 610 00:25:17.759 --> 00:25:20.480 come in. But you're hoping that your Julian Dean, who's 611 00:25:20.519 --> 00:25:22.680 been on the pod, he once said this. I'm using 612 00:25:22.720 --> 00:25:26.059 this from him. I loved it. It's cutting that circuit 613 00:25:26.460 --> 00:25:28.460 and trying to do as much as you can to 614 00:25:28.960 --> 00:25:31.579 cut that circuit of the effects that having an addict 615 00:25:31.619 --> 00:25:32.420 parent has. 616 00:25:32.460 --> 00:25:33.599 Yes, of course. 617 00:25:34.000 --> 00:25:35.740 And so you've never parented hungover? 618 00:25:35.799 --> 00:25:41.460 Never parented hungover. Yeah. I just can't imagine that. No. No. 619 00:25:41.970 --> 00:25:43.150 Does she not drink either? 620 00:25:43.190 --> 00:25:43.890 Not really. 621 00:25:43.910 --> 00:25:46.500 She does drink, but no. Not really. 622 00:25:47.220 --> 00:25:48.980 I did the school run after that night at the 623 00:25:49.079 --> 00:25:51.740 Euros when I was down an alley. No, you didn't! 624 00:25:52.339 --> 00:25:54.099 You weren't hungover, you were still drunk. 625 00:25:54.140 --> 00:25:56.180 That morning was the most famous I've ever been. I 626 00:25:56.180 --> 00:26:01.799 was stopping fucking traffic. Because I went mentally viral, England 627 00:26:01.839 --> 00:26:04.220 had won, and I went on Zoe Ball's show and 628 00:26:04.259 --> 00:26:06.440 Chris Evans' show, then did the school run, still steaming. 629 00:26:06.460 --> 00:26:09.240 That is absolutely phenomenal. 630 00:26:09.259 --> 00:26:11.809 The teachers were like, oh, people shouting chicken man at 631 00:26:11.829 --> 00:26:14.329 me out the window of the car. Shit! 632 00:26:16.369 --> 00:26:19.829 That's what you were known for that's fantastic but yeah 633 00:26:19.869 --> 00:26:22.349 it is awful and I've stopped drinking now I would 634 00:26:22.390 --> 00:26:25.680 only have two or three drinks max and then I'm 635 00:26:25.859 --> 00:26:28.140

done just because I like that little giddy feeling but 636 00:26:28.200 --> 00:26:29.579 anything beyond that just. 637 00:26:29.400 --> 00:26:34.420 I find it wild when you see parents that properly 638 00:26:34.460 --> 00:26:37.630 go out all I can think is how are you 639 00:26:37.930 --> 00:26:40.759 dealing with the next day? I'm not judging them. I'm thinking, 640 00:26:40.779 --> 00:26:41.940 I can't do that. 641 00:26:41.980 --> 00:26:43.279 No, no, no, absolutely. 642 00:26:43.299 --> 00:26:44.859 Like, I wish I could. 643 00:26:44.900 --> 00:26:46.299 Have done that. Well, the answer is though, isn't it? 644 00:26:46.299 --> 00:26:50.009 It's like, if you go from drunk to hungover to like, 645 00:26:50.269 --> 00:26:53.509 recovered to drunk again, you're never truly sober. 646 00:26:53.930 --> 00:26:56.250 In yourself that's the cycle I lived in since I 647 00:26:56.289 --> 00:26:56.490 was 17. 648 00:26:56.450 --> 00:26:59.950 Any chance where you have to think or look internally 649 00:27:00.259 --> 00:27:01.900 you can cover that up with I'll get a pizza 650 00:27:01.920 --> 00:27:04.599 because I'm hungover I'm feeling better now I'll have a. 651 00:27:04.559 --> 00:27:06.839 Drink and you're back in again that's it and let's 652 00:27:06.900 --> 00:27:10.980 be honest you know me well enough for this to 653 00:27:11.019 --> 00:27:14.109 be known as the case life is hard enough without 654 00:27:14.210 --> 00:27:18.349 me being hungover I struggle anyway I don't know if 655 00:27:18.390 --> 00:27:19.930 you saw my Instagram. 656 00:27:19.890 --> 00:27:21.650 But yesterday he woke up. 657 00:27:26.170 --> 00:27:31.089 Is this meant to be helping me sell tickets? 658 00:27:31.349 --> 00:27:33.779 He's come out on fire today, old Josh. Shoes off, 659 00:27:33.839 --> 00:27:34.779 big gulp, off he goes. 660 00:27:36.200 --> 00:27:37.539 Well, I just went to the wrong venue again. 661 00:27:38.039 --> 00:27:38.720 Yesterday? 662 00:27:38.799 --> 00:27:41.980 Oh, God. For the third time? If it's even the third, 663 00:27:42.000 --> 00:27:42.619 it's probably fourth. 664 00:27:42.640 --> 00:27:43.069 Where did you go? 665 00:27:43.180 --> 00:27:43.599 What? 666 00:27:43.660 --> 00:27:45.950 Well, can I just say, in my defence, so I 667 00:27:46.049 --> 00:27:49.049 once went to Hereford instead of Hertford. I once went 668 00:27:49.089 --> 00:27:51.130 to the wrong, is it Newport? I once went to 669 00:27:51.150 --> 00:27:54.940 the wrong Newport. Yesterday, in my defence... It wasn't because 670 00:27:54.980 --> 00:27:58.569 I got the names of the towns confused. I'd got 671 00:27:58.650 --> 00:28:01.869 days confused. And I thought yesterday was Tuesday. So just 672 00:28:01.910 --> 00:28:04.269 in case you thought I was an idiot. So you're 673 00:28:04.309 --> 00:28:06.230 going tonight to the place you meant to be going 674 00:28:06.250 --> 00:28:08.589 last night? Yeah, the barman will recognise me. It's through there, 675 00:28:08.630 --> 00:28:10.269 isn't it, the comedy? And he went, it's tomorrow, isn't it? 676 00:28:10.490 --> 00:28:12.599 And straight away, you know, and you know immediately. And 677 00:28:12.660 --> 00:28:15.359 I went, yep, see you tomorrow. Just walked straight out. 678 00:28:15.380 --> 00:28:18.440 Just doing a recce. Everything seems to be going up 679 00:28:18.480 --> 00:28:19.240 for tomorrow. 680 00:28:19.539 --> 00:28:20.980 You know me, always has to get prepared. 681 00:28:21.240 --> 00:28:21.420 Yeah. 682 00:28:22.410 --> 00:28:24.099 So what questions have you got now? Because I was 683 00:28:24.119 --> 00:28:26.140 speaking to you and Grace about holidays and stuff like that. 684 00:28:26.200 --> 00:28:29.539 Well, sleeping. So what we do, and I don't know 685 00:28:29.599 --> 00:28:32.759 if this is odd. I actually said to Grace, should 686 00:28:32.779 --> 00:28:35.559 I keep this to myself? And she said, no, they'll 687 00:28:35.599 --> 00:28:37.539 do it. And she thinks you might have done this. 688 00:28:38.220 --> 00:28:40.859 But I, Grace... Upside down like a bat. 689 00:28:42.000 --> 00:28:47.279 It's the only way he gets off. He swings up 690 00:28:47.299 --> 00:28:49.980 the hypnotist. 691 00:28:50.519 --> 00:28:54.849 Grace is in bed with Casper. in our room it's 692 00:28:54.869 --> 00:28:57.150 not in my room because I'm never there because I'm 693 00:28:57.390 --> 00:28:59.710 in Wilder's bed with Wilder yeah yeah that's basically our 694 00:28:59.730 --> 00:29:04.299 situation yeah right is that how abnormal normal is that 695 00:29:04.440 --> 00:29:07.240 I don't really know but I like it and that's 696 00:29:07.279 --> 00:29:07.940 what we do. 697 00:29:07.880 --> 00:29:11.700 Well that's the thing I tell myself stuff like and 698 00:29:11.920 --> 00:29:15.130 I do believe this at the moment my son's in bed. 699 00:29:15.009 --> 00:29:17.210 With Rose and my daughter's. 700 00:29:16.890 --> 00:29:19.529 In bed with me on the floor next to the 701 00:29:19.569 --> 00:29:21.369 bed so we're all in the same room what okay. 702 00:29:24.049 --> 00:29:24.849 Okay, yeah. 703 00:29:25.230 --> 00:29:26.730 Now you thought you were going to be the weird one. 704 00:29:26.910 --> 00:29:28.170 Why are you on the. 705 00:29:28.630 --> 00:29:29.640 Because we've got mattresses. 706 00:29:29.660 --> 00:29:30.829 But you've got other bedrooms. 707 00:29:30.829 --> 00:29:31.079 Yeah. 708 00:29:31.079 --> 00:29:32.970 So the only place he can sleep is on the 709 00:29:32.970 --> 00:29:34.009 floor of his bedroom. 710 00:29:34.009 --> 00:29:34.680 Jesus Christ. 711 00:29:34.680 --> 00:29:35.170 Like a dog. 712 00:29:35.170 --> 00:29:36.309 Like a dog. 713 00:29:36.549 --> 00:29:41.619 His dog's got a better bed than you. Can I 714 00:29:41.660 --> 00:29:43.440 throw my hat in the ring here on this? 715 00:29:43.579 --> 00:29:44.359 Yes, definitely. 716 00:29:44.400 --> 00:29:47.079 Now, so I think that when you've got an

eight-month-old 717 00:29:47.099 --> 00:29:49.640 baby kind of thing, and it's been a baby, there's 718 00:29:49.660 --> 00:29:51.160 that period where it needs to be with the mum 719 00:29:51.180 --> 00:29:52.140 if you're doing breastfeeding. 720 00:29:52.180 --> 00:29:56.819 Yes, it's all about breastfeeding. Oh, I should say, this 721 00:29:56.859 --> 00:29:59.900 hasn't always been the case. We've reverted back to it 722 00:29:59.940 --> 00:30:01.700 in the last year. Because you've been moving. 723 00:30:01.509 --> 00:30:01.980 Houses and stuff. 724 00:30:02.009 --> 00:30:03.029 Because we've been moving houses and stuff. 725 00:30:03.089 --> 00:30:03.549 But I think. 726 00:30:03.569 --> 00:30:03.650 So. 727 00:30:03.630 --> 00:30:06.410 Basically, there's no point you coming in the middle of 728 00:30:06.430 --> 00:30:07.789 the night and disrupting all that. So you might as 729 00:30:07.809 --> 00:30:10.069 well just get in with Wilder. Like what you're doing. 730 00:30:10.089 --> 00:30:12.750 That's how I think it naturally happened. As I started going, 731 00:30:13.170 --> 00:30:16.150 I can't be bothered to wake up and go in there. Exactly. 732 00:30:16.170 --> 00:30:18.470 I might as well just stay there. Totally. Have you got. 733 00:30:18.670 --> 00:30:20.339 Are they going to have to share when they. 734 00:30:20.680 --> 00:30:21.200 Initially. 735 00:30:21.460 --> 00:30:23.799 Yeah, so there'll be a point, though, where you have to... 736 00:30:24.859 --> 00:30:27.490 From eight months or older, whenever it is, move... your 737 00:30:27.549 --> 00:30:30.230 son into another room yes and eventually you'll probably get 738 00:30:30.250 --> 00:30:32.950 back into your bed and they'll be in the room 739 00:30:32.990 --> 00:30:36.109 together but I would say Josh's situation at the moment 740 00:30:36.549 --> 00:30:40.490 wasn't always the case but has basically descended into slight chaos. 741 00:30:40.269 --> 00:30:41.849 Because of circumstance and now they. 742 00:30:41.769 --> 00:30:43.549 Can't get back into the right bedrooms because they're getting 743 00:30:43.569 --> 00:30:47.109 the other bedrooms done but now the standard is. 744 00:30:47.710 --> 00:30:50.670 Well my son would describe it as his room yeah 745 00:30:50.690 --> 00:30:55.799 yeah yeah that's it he's three four four But I 746 00:30:55.920 --> 00:31:00.009 love it. Yeah, that's the thing. And it won't last forever. 747 00:31:00.210 --> 00:31:02.309 This is the thing. Or what if it does? Or 748 00:31:02.329 --> 00:31:03.990 what if it does? 749 00:31:04.049 --> 00:31:08.660 That's the worry, isn't it? What if it does? 750 00:31:10.000 --> 00:31:13.279 But I remember going to go and sleep in the 751 00:31:13.319 --> 00:31:16.309 main bed and then just having that feeling of, but 752 00:31:16.349 --> 00:31:20.569 she's not going to be that small forever. I've got 753 00:31:20.630 --> 00:31:23.170 to use this now. I've got to use this moment now. 754 00:31:23.410 --> 00:31:25.250 No, I think it's all a little bit whatever works 755 00:31:25.269 --> 00:31:28.509 for the house. Our kids go a bit to sleep 756 00:31:28.549 --> 00:31:30.390 in their room, but then the youngest one kept doing 757 00:31:30.410 --> 00:31:32.190 these night terrors, so she comes in quite a lot. 758 00:31:32.490 --> 00:31:33.670 So then what will happen is she'll come in the 759 00:31:33.690 --> 00:31:35.009 middle of the night and either get in with us 760 00:31:35.269 --> 00:31:36.789 or one of us will get out and get in 761 00:31:36.809 --> 00:31:39.029 bed with her. And do that. So it's like she'll 762 00:31:39.049 --> 00:31:40.710 go to her own bed at night, but then she 763 00:31:40.750 --> 00:31:43.109 wakes up at night a bit scared. She'll come to us. 764 00:31:43.369 --> 00:31:43.589 Yes. 765 00:31:43.670 --> 00:31:45.069 And rather than just going, you've got to go back 766 00:31:45.089 --> 00:31:46.049 in your room. You've got, we just go, I'll just 767 00:31:46.069 --> 00:31:48.089 get in and do it that way. So everyone's got 768 00:31:48.109 --> 00:31:50.880 a different, but, but that they used to go sleep 769 00:31:50.910 --> 00:31:52.680 in their own beds and not bother us at all, 770 00:31:53.160 --> 00:31:55.940 all night from the ages of sort of like four 771 00:31:55.980 --> 00:31:56.559 and six. 772 00:31:57.099 --> 00:31:57.779 Yeah. Onwards. 773 00:31:57.799 --> 00:31:59.779 But then all of a sudden it's shifted again. 774 00:31:59.920 --> 00:32:01.119 So it's constantly. You just never know. 775 00:32:01.779 --> 00:32:04.039 And also I think people just get hung up on 776 00:32:04.099 --> 00:32:04.900 stuff a lot. 777 00:32:05.440 --> 00:32:08.200 Yeah, but I would say in your situation, it's mad 778 00:32:08.240 --> 00:32:11.200 to sleep on the floor when there are a number 779 00:32:11.220 --> 00:32:12.849 of other bedrooms. That's what I think is mad. 780 00:32:12.859 --> 00:32:14.900 Well, the other bedrooms have been done up. You're doing 781 00:32:14.980 --> 00:32:17.019 all right, mate. You don't need to be on the floor. 782 00:32:17.059 --> 00:32:17.819 You're doing all right. 783 00:32:17.839 --> 00:32:19.460 You can even get a spare bed. It's a lovely 784 00:32:19.480 --> 00:32:20.359 squidgy mattress. 785 00:32:20.420 --> 00:32:21.559 It's a lovely squidgy mattress. 786 00:32:21.740 --> 00:32:23.420 No, but I would say that I think it's fine 787 00:32:23.460 --> 00:32:24.740 to sit, but I think you could just be in 788 00:32:24.769 --> 00:32:25.369 a bed with her. 789 00:32:25.720 --> 00:32:26.190 Possibly. 790 00:32:26.529 --> 00:32:28.990 He's just slept on the floor every night for months. 791 00:32:29.380 --> 00:32:32.089 Look what he's so tired. He's living on the floor, mate. 792 00:32:32.109 --> 00:32:34.329 That's why I don't have hotels. I'm getting the consequences 793 00:32:34.390 --> 00:32:34.529 of it. 794 00:32:34.549 --> 00:32:35.230 I can't really adapt. 795 00:32:35.289 -->

00:32:37.250 I can't believe it. I can't really adapt to the 796 00:32:37.289 --> 00:32:38.589 hotel room bed. 797 00:32:38.609 --> 00:32:39.410 Because he's on a bed. 798 00:32:39.430 --> 00:32:42.740 It feels a little higher. Did you put this mattress 799 00:32:42.799 --> 00:32:43.380 on the floor? 800 00:32:43.599 --> 00:32:52.579 Any space in the lobby? And now for a special 801 00:32:52.619 --> 00:32:54.960 part of today's show, what age should you be left at? 802 00:32:54.980 --> 00:32:56.140 And it's brought to you by Monzo. 803 00:32:56.460 --> 00:32:59.319 Yes, basically, we're going to discuss what age kids should 804 00:32:59.359 --> 00:33:02.000 be left to get on with things themselves. 805 00:33:02.240 --> 00:33:05.519 Monzo helps give kids a safer step into independence with money, 806 00:33:05.880 --> 00:33:09.119 setting goals, budgeting and spending while parents still have oversight. 807 00:33:09.279 --> 00:33:11.819 So that part feels covered. But what about the other stuff? Like, 808 00:33:11.859 --> 00:33:13.640 can they use a toaster, for example? 809 00:33:13.829 --> 00:33:16.289 Or have their own phone? That's a very picky one. 810 00:33:16.430 --> 00:33:19.309 Now, Josh, what age are you going to let your kids... 811 00:33:19.690 --> 00:33:21.150 Go out of the house on their own to the 812 00:33:21.190 --> 00:33:21.910 local shop. 813 00:33:22.269 --> 00:33:24.589 Well, we've been discussing this, Rob. 814 00:33:24.849 --> 00:33:26.869 I've been talking about, like, she's got other friends who 815 00:33:26.890 --> 00:33:29.549 live nearby who walk past our house to go to school. 816 00:33:30.029 --> 00:33:30.269 Yeah. 817 00:33:30.470 --> 00:33:32.490 And what age are we going to send them to school? 818 00:33:32.529 --> 00:33:35.309 I reckon at about 10, they will walk as a 819 00:33:35.369 --> 00:33:37.390 group to school, kind of picking up people on the 820 00:33:37.430 --> 00:33:38.170 way like a bus. 821 00:33:38.859 --> 00:33:41.420 Yeah, see, that's hard for us because they're in a village. 822 00:33:41.539 --> 00:33:43.559 We let the kids go to the neighbour to get 823 00:33:43.619 --> 00:33:44.480 parcels on their own. 824 00:33:44.769 --> 00:33:47.390 What about if you went to a shop and you 825 00:33:47.549 --> 00:33:49.490 were like, oh, there's no parking or something? 826 00:33:50.430 --> 00:33:52.279 Could you just go in and get, you know, a 827 00:33:52.619 --> 00:33:53.160 pint of milk? 828 00:33:53.559 --> 00:33:55.400 I'd probably, the eight-year-old and 10-year-old, I'd send them in 829 00:33:55.440 --> 00:33:57.960 together to a garage to buy something with cash if 830 00:33:58.000 --> 00:34:00.539 I'm parked outside the garage. If I'm in a restaurant, 831 00:34:00.619 --> 00:34:02.349 I could let them go to the toilet on their own. 832 00:34:02.529 --> 00:34:05.430 Yeah. Give me another one. Give me another one to 833 00:34:05.490 --> 00:34:05.970 test the age. 834 00:34:07.700 --> 00:34:07.980 Oven. 835 00:34:08.619 --> 00:34:11.420 I think they could do that now, my daughter, but 836 00:34:11.480 --> 00:34:13.539 she doesn't. But I think she could easily. 837 00:34:13.559 --> 00:34:15.800 They both make me scrambled eggs. They can do that 838 00:34:16.219 --> 00:34:18.659 on their own. What age were you allowed to go 839 00:34:18.719 --> 00:34:19.179 to school? 840 00:34:19.570 --> 00:34:21.690 It was a driving thing. But then at 11, I 841 00:34:22.869 --> 00:34:24.389 got the bus and I'd walk to the bus stop 842 00:34:24.429 --> 00:34:26.130 on my own. So 11. 843 00:34:26.130 --> 00:34:28.010 I think that's the secondary school is the one, isn't it? 844 00:34:28.230 --> 00:34:31.429 Well, here's the thing on the other side. Yeah. My son... 845 00:34:32.269 --> 00:34:34.849 I don't want to swear on it. Wiped his own 846 00:34:35.369 --> 00:34:37.429 bum the other day. Yeah. 847 00:34:37.949 --> 00:34:39.800 Because he's four. Part of me is like, well, that 848 00:34:39.880 --> 00:34:43.119 is good. But how good is the job he's done? 849 00:34:43.139 --> 00:34:44.000 Do you know what I mean? 850 00:34:44.360 --> 00:34:46.559 Do your kids use toaster? Do they do their own toaster? 851 00:34:46.579 --> 00:34:47.800 Do they do their own breakfast yet? 852 00:34:48.199 --> 00:34:54.050 No, because... He doesn't. Obviously. Yeah, obviously. And I end 853 00:34:54.110 --> 00:34:55.809 up doing it, but they could do it. Do you 854 00:34:55.829 --> 00:34:57.130 know what I mean? My daughter could. 855 00:34:57.409 --> 00:35:00.789 She doesn't have toast, though. I've got into a pancake situation. 856 00:35:00.809 --> 00:35:01.690 Do yours do their own? 857 00:35:01.829 --> 00:35:04.110 They'll make their own breakfast. So they'll get their cereal 858 00:35:04.210 --> 00:35:06.250 out and milk and bowl and spoon. Or they'll make 859 00:35:06.269 --> 00:35:08.769 their own toast and butter it. And they can make 860 00:35:08.869 --> 00:35:11.449 eggs if they want to make eggs. Lou makes the pancakes, 861 00:35:11.690 --> 00:35:13.389 the mix. But I think we get to the point 862 00:35:13.409 --> 00:35:15.300 where they could make their own pancakes. I wouldn't want 863 00:35:15.320 --> 00:35:17.480 them using a hot pan without us downstairs. 864 00:35:17.960 --> 00:35:19.159 No, exactly, Rob. 865 00:35:19.420 --> 00:35:20.480 Toaster's all right without us. 866 00:35:20.500 --> 00:35:21.039 Do you know what? 867 00:35:21.300 --> 00:35:23.780 If you want a kid to help, my daughter's got 868 00:35:23.820 --> 00:35:27.219 very into, in the morning, she's done a checklist, which 869 00:35:27.260 --> 00:35:30.019 we go through, and it kind of empowers her to 870 00:35:30.039 --> 00:35:31.719 be part of it rather than me just telling her 871 00:35:31.760 --> 00:35:32.360 the next. 872 00:35:32.179 --> 00:35:33.320 Thing, if you know what I mean. 873 00:35:33.780 --> 00:35:33.980 Yeah. 874 00:35:34.340 --> 00:35:36.599 And they do really want to do these

things. 875 00:35:36.960 --> 00:35:39.820 That's the thing. We presume they're resistant. Oh, will someone 876 00:35:39.840 --> 00:35:43.070 do everything for me? But the truth is they enjoy it. 877 00:35:43.570 --> 00:35:45.750 The feeling grown up of it. We're the problem. 878 00:35:46.030 --> 00:35:48.050 We're the problem. We do too much for them. 879 00:35:48.329 --> 00:35:50.530 Do you know what would really help on that, Rob? What? 880 00:35:51.150 --> 00:35:51.909 A Monzo card. 881 00:35:51.929 --> 00:35:53.329 Because that empowers them. 882 00:35:53.570 --> 00:35:55.469 Then they can just go out and pay for breakfast. 883 00:35:56.010 --> 00:35:56.449 Exactly. 884 00:35:56.489 --> 00:35:59.849 They can go out and have avocado on toast. Would 885 00:35:59.869 --> 00:36:00.969 you let them pack the bags for. 886 00:36:00.909 --> 00:36:01.489 The holiday, Rob? 887 00:36:01.809 --> 00:36:03.969 Not the whole holiday. Maybe hand luggage. 888 00:36:04.409 --> 00:36:06.809 Hand luggage. Yeah, I think that's fair. I think that's good. 889 00:36:06.829 --> 00:36:08.340 But then if you'd let them, they'll just pack like 890 00:36:08.340 --> 00:36:11.320 20 teddies. Because they're not practical. 891 00:36:11.360 --> 00:36:14.489 They're not going to go, I do need some factor 50. 892 00:36:14.489 --> 00:36:14.710 Yeah. 893 00:36:15.769 --> 00:36:18.030 Yeah, I do need an extra swimming costume because if 894 00:36:18.050 --> 00:36:19.250 that one's wet, I don't want to put that one 895 00:36:19.289 --> 00:36:19.690 back on. 896 00:36:19.989 --> 00:36:22.809 There you have it. Monzo helps take care of the 897 00:36:22.849 --> 00:36:24.880 money stuff and we'll take care of the rest. 898 00:36:25.079 --> 00:36:28.880 Monzo's award-winning account for under-16s. Download your new favourite bank. 899 00:36:29.079 --> 00:36:32.099 For children aged 6 to 15, parents or guardian account 900 00:36:32.159 --> 00:36:38.679 needed first. UK residents only. T's and C's apply. What's 901 00:36:38.719 --> 00:36:40.619 your views on like kids TV and stuff? 902 00:36:40.840 --> 00:36:43.280 Oh, well kids TV. So obviously all I've got is, 903 00:36:43.920 --> 00:36:46.539 so Casper's just getting into, I'm back on Miss Rachel 904 00:36:46.570 --> 00:36:48.969 because Casper's now started with Miss Rachel. 905 00:36:48.989 --> 00:36:50.820 I miss Miss Rachel. It was more tumble for us. 906 00:36:51.230 --> 00:36:56.449 Oh really? Saviors. These people are saviors. Yeah. Casper's, you know, 907 00:36:56.510 --> 00:36:57.389 I just go, Miss Rachel. 908 00:36:57.409 --> 00:36:59.130 Do you let him have a screen or is it 909 00:36:59.159 --> 00:36:59.929 just on the big telly? 910 00:37:00.059 --> 00:37:00.360 No. 911 00:37:00.420 --> 00:37:03.000 Well, see, this is, I'm very jealous about this. We 912 00:37:03.059 --> 00:37:06.800 came in slightly too late after they'd kind of, after 913 00:37:06.840 --> 00:37:09.829 the discussion about how iPads were bad for you. Yeah. 914 00:37:10.010 --> 00:37:13.030 Had come out. So we were too late. I would now, 915 00:37:13.110 --> 00:37:15.329 if I was giving them the iPad, be aware of 916 00:37:15.389 --> 00:37:19.710 the discussion that screens are bad and time should be limited. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 917 00:37:19.769 --> 00:37:21.389 So I'm gutted that I missed, because there was the 918 00:37:21.409 --> 00:37:23.690 bit when the iPads were new. Parents were just slinging 919 00:37:23.730 --> 00:37:24.409 them at their kids. 920 00:37:24.489 --> 00:37:25.349 Oh, so you don't have. 921 00:37:25.650 --> 00:37:27.730 We don't, so we don't. But the TV is doing 922 00:37:27.769 --> 00:37:28.030 all the. 923 00:37:28.190 --> 00:37:32.030 Can I ask with that, is there ones you like 924 00:37:32.050 --> 00:37:32.969 and ones you don't like? 925 00:37:33.349 --> 00:37:35.110 Well, Bluey. We all like Bluey. 926 00:37:35.130 --> 00:37:36.130 Yeah, we love Bluey. 927 00:37:36.150 --> 00:37:39.590 15-minute episodes, you know, small, short, it's like crack. You 928 00:37:39.610 --> 00:37:41.750 start getting into them You get that little circle at 929 00:37:41.769 --> 00:37:43.369 the end, you know, the corner, it says like 11 930 00:37:43.369 --> 00:37:46.960 seconds left or next episode, sat there, skip. Last week, 931 00:37:47.099 --> 00:37:50.150 I watched eight episodes in a row, forgot to pick 932 00:37:50.210 --> 00:37:55.860 Wilder up from nursery. On your own? I'm kidding. You 933 00:37:57.219 --> 00:38:02.739 can't trick him like that in his state. I bought that. Yeah, no. So, no, Bluey, 934 00:38:02.760 --> 00:38:03.019 like Bluey. 935 00:38:03.039 --> 00:38:04.960 We used to come home from the school run and Mr. 936 00:38:04.980 --> 00:38:07.389 Tumble would be on for about an hour. And I'm like, 937 00:38:07.429 --> 00:38:08.110 why is he still on? 938 00:38:08.389 --> 00:38:11.269 Well, this is the thing, isn't it? Because Generation Alpha? 939 00:38:11.989 --> 00:38:12.630 I don't know. 940 00:38:12.670 --> 00:38:15.769 Yeah, right. The one after the Gen Z. Them. Yeah. 941 00:38:16.050 --> 00:38:17.869 What's that generation that all slept with their dad until 942 00:38:17.889 --> 00:38:18.670 they were 25? 943 00:38:18.670 --> 00:38:18.849 Yeah. 944 00:38:18.989 --> 00:38:25.070 Yeah. The generation below our generation. They're Gen Z. Are 945 00:38:25.130 --> 00:38:26.650 obsessed with generations. 946 00:38:28.030 --> 00:38:29.900 It's young and old, guys. 947 00:38:29.960 --> 00:38:32.559 It's just young and old. I'm just not interested. 948 00:38:32.599 --> 00:38:33.159 No, it's not. 949 00:38:33.460 --> 00:38:37.519 People are so interested in generations. I'm not interested in what. 950 00:38:37.699 --> 00:38:41.190 There's young and old. The difference in gen that is up. 951 00:38:41.329 --> 00:38:43.849 We're old, but we're not old old. Yeah, we're middle aged. Yeah, 952 00:38:43.869 --> 00:38:45.250 but we're not like, what's my mum and dad? 953

00:38:45.949 --> 00:38:46.090 Oh. 954 00:38:46.110 --> 00:38:46.690 They're boomers, aren't they? 955 00:38:46.730 --> 00:38:48.070 No, but we can't be in the same group as them. 956 00:38:48.090 --> 00:38:49.159 Have you seen what we're old? 957 00:38:49.170 --> 00:38:50.860 We're middle-aged. They're old. 958 00:38:50.880 --> 00:38:51.980 We're middle-aged. 959 00:38:52.000 --> 00:38:54.159 There was no generations when we were kids. I'm so 960 00:38:54.239 --> 00:38:56.849 happy you've said this. I absolutely agree. They're obsessed with it, 961 00:38:56.860 --> 00:38:57.199 young people. 962 00:38:57.219 --> 00:38:57.800 Gen Z, millennial. 963 00:38:57.900 --> 00:39:02.420 Okay, boomer. No, okay, old person. Yes. All right? Yeah. 964 00:39:02.800 --> 00:39:03.929 Do you know what? I think you've dragged me in. 965 00:39:04.320 --> 00:39:05.429 Yeah, thank you very much. 966 00:39:05.510 --> 00:39:10.769 So young, we're going children, young people, middle-aged, old. Dead. 967 00:39:10.789 --> 00:39:11.010 Dead. 968 00:39:11.670 --> 00:39:13.269 Yeah, but what's that? You know that about. 969 00:39:13.469 --> 00:39:14.449 Generation dead. 970 00:39:14.630 --> 00:39:16.599 And then there's Gen Z or whatever they're called. The 971 00:39:16.659 --> 00:39:20.179 younger generation, they'll tell you what all the different generations 972 00:39:20.239 --> 00:39:23.539 are like and then they'll end by blaming you for 973 00:39:23.559 --> 00:39:25.230 the fact that they can't afford a house. 974 00:39:25.409 --> 00:39:25.909 Yeah. 975 00:39:26.389 --> 00:39:29.369 Absolute torture. I didn't make this decision. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 976 00:39:29.530 --> 00:39:29.980 It is all. 977 00:39:30.260 --> 00:39:33.420 for you and I agree but there was no decision 978 00:39:33.480 --> 00:39:36.159 within our generation where we went should we fuck over 979 00:39:36.179 --> 00:39:36.679 the next. 980 00:39:36.500 --> 00:39:38.239 Generation I'm sorry it can't be my fault people can't 981 00:39:38.260 --> 00:39:41.300 afford a house I know But also... What have I done? 982 00:39:41.510 --> 00:39:46.429 I started with fuck all. And also, these are the 983 00:39:46.449 --> 00:39:47.090 things you read. 984 00:39:47.269 --> 00:39:50.010 I think there's a difference between what you read about 985 00:39:50.349 --> 00:39:52.659 and what you see out there in the world. You 986 00:39:52.679 --> 00:39:55.159 go to High Street on Friday night, everyone looks like 987 00:39:55.179 --> 00:39:57.559 they're having a great time. There are people in their 988 00:39:57.579 --> 00:39:59.980 20s outside Witherspoon's going, I wish I could afford a house. 989 00:40:00.260 --> 00:40:01.980 They're having a wonderful time. 990 00:40:02.219 --> 00:40:03.409 So have you all turned into Clarkson? 991 00:40:03.739 --> 00:40:08.739 LAUGHTER But what I was going to say is that, 992 00:40:08.780 --> 00:40:13.860 so these kids, children, they're brought up with on-demand television, YouTube, 993 00:40:13.900 --> 00:40:16.500 and this is not what we had. So they have 994 00:40:16.679 --> 00:40:20.510 everything instantly just at their hands. Whereas we had a 995 00:40:20.550 --> 00:40:24.949 window of three to five to watch children's programmes, 3pm 996 00:40:24.989 --> 00:40:26.829 to 5pm. And basically, if you miss that, you're watching 997 00:40:26.849 --> 00:40:29.110 Panorama with your dad. Yeah, that was it. 998 00:40:29.210 --> 00:40:29.949 Heartbeat. 999 00:40:30.050 --> 00:40:31.190 Yeah, heartbeat, exactly. 1000 00:40:31.880 --> 00:40:34.400 But do you think that was more shared viewing? Because 1001 00:40:34.420 --> 00:40:36.699 I was thinking this the other day. My kids are 1002 00:40:36.719 --> 00:40:39.349 watching TV and I was trying not to look at 1003 00:40:39.389 --> 00:40:41.210 my phone and I was thinking, Josh. 1004 00:40:41.710 --> 00:40:44.230 I've bought, sorry to cut you off there. I've bought 1005 00:40:44.849 --> 00:40:47.449 to try and combat phone addiction. I've bought, there's an 1006 00:40:47.530 --> 00:40:51.559 app called Opal, right? About 80 quid. That app stops 1007 00:40:51.599 --> 00:40:53.989 you from using your phone. I bought a lockbox, which 1008 00:40:54.010 --> 00:40:55.130 you put your phone in when you get home. Oh, 1009 00:40:55.150 --> 00:40:56.869 that's mental, the box. And I bought a thing called Brick. 1010 00:40:56.929 --> 00:40:59.449 I've got Brick. I still use Brick. I've spent over 1011 00:40:59.449 --> 00:41:02.530 200 quid on Brick. Trying to combat. You've almost got 1012 00:41:02.570 --> 00:41:05.869 a wall. I've got devices to stop me from using devices. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1013 00:41:05.969 --> 00:41:07.849 I've lost it. And what's your screen time? 1014 00:41:08.349 --> 00:41:10.289 It'll just be what? It won't change. Seven hours. 1015 00:41:10.329 --> 00:41:11.670 Because I won't put my phone in the box. 1016 00:41:12.030 --> 00:41:13.949 And I won't use the Brick. The box is mental. 1017 00:41:13.969 --> 00:41:17.000 I just scroll. I don't look. Doom scroll. Just doom scroll. 1018 00:41:17.159 --> 00:41:18.780 My phone addiction is so bad, I was staying at 1019 00:41:18.800 --> 00:41:21.219 a hotel and I went to charge my phone. And 1020 00:41:21.239 --> 00:41:23.010 there was no plug socket next to the bed. You 1021 00:41:23.030 --> 00:41:26.210 know that? I had to sleep on the desk. Another joke, Josh. 1022 00:41:28.750 --> 00:41:29.429 I don't know, yeah. 1023 00:41:29.449 --> 00:41:32.670 I don't know. What? Bloody hell, is this short or right? 1024 00:41:32.909 --> 00:41:34.679 Can we get a drum bit? I might need a drum. 1025 00:41:35.960 --> 00:41:38.880 There we go. That's right, it's not real. But yeah, no, 1026 00:41:38.900 --> 00:41:41.039 it is bad. Hence all of these devices. So you're 1027 00:41:41.079 --> 00:41:42.699 trying to watch a children's programme and not look at 1028 00:41:42.719 --> 00:41:43.079 your phone. 1029 00:41:43.199 --> 00:41:45.059

This is how obsessed he is with his screen time. 1030 00:41:45.139 --> 00:41:47.349 If he's driving somewhere, because it comes up in your sat-nav, 1031 00:41:47.369 --> 00:41:49.909 you know the sat-nav goes on your car. He's turning 1032 00:41:49.949 --> 00:41:50.530 his sat-nav off. 1033 00:41:50.550 --> 00:41:51.570 Yeah, the apple carve thing. 1034 00:41:51.610 --> 00:41:54.340 Yeah, but he's turning his sat-nav off for the last 1035 00:41:54.340 --> 00:41:56.619 10 miles because he knows the route to make sure 1036 00:41:56.639 --> 00:41:57.119 his screen time's good. 1037 00:41:57.139 --> 00:41:57.809 To save screen time. 1038 00:41:58.320 --> 00:42:00.880 Because it's so you it's charging me screen time for 1039 00:42:00.920 --> 00:42:03.300 sat nav it's so unfair that is so you do 1040 00:42:03.320 --> 00:42:06.159 you want to know something else so brick right it 1041 00:42:06.199 --> 00:42:08.360 gets rid of all your time wasting apps are you 1042 00:42:08.480 --> 00:42:10.880 using brick yeah i am using brick but this is 1043 00:42:10.920 --> 00:42:12.239 how i ended up do you. 1044 00:42:12.179 --> 00:42:14.780 Know what brick is so we've got the exact same 1045 00:42:14.820 --> 00:42:16.400 screen time so i don't know what he's using it 1046 00:42:16.460 --> 00:42:17.739 for yeah but this is. 1047 00:42:17.599 --> 00:42:19.599 What happens i've got rid of all the time wasting 1048 00:42:19.659 --> 00:42:21.639 apps so i've got like i only got like calls 1049 00:42:21.699 --> 00:42:24.230 and uber and stuff on it okay and so then 1050 00:42:24.250 --> 00:42:26.929 i find myself sitting waiting for a train or whatever 1051 00:42:26.949 --> 00:42:27.969 and i'm. 1052 00:42:27.929 --> 00:42:30.530 Like I wonder who I've called recently. And I'm just 1053 00:42:30.610 --> 00:42:36.139 reading the boring apps now. Yes, right. I wonder what 1054 00:42:36.219 --> 00:42:38.480 cities have got Uber. Why don't I search? 1055 00:42:38.780 --> 00:42:40.460 I remember when you used to go for a shit, 1056 00:42:40.679 --> 00:42:41.860 I'd read the back of shampoo bottles. 1057 00:42:41.900 --> 00:42:43.260 Yeah, of course. Something. 1058 00:42:43.800 --> 00:42:44.460 Something. 1059 00:42:44.800 --> 00:42:48.119 My phone died from Leeds. Died at the beginning of 1060 00:42:48.139 --> 00:42:51.639 the train journey. And I thought, I can't do this 1061 00:42:51.699 --> 00:42:55.159 train journey just with my mind. So what did you do? 1062 00:42:55.300 --> 00:42:57.639 Did you go off? No, I went down the carriage 1063 00:42:57.659 --> 00:42:59.590 to ask if I could borrow someone's charger. Yeah, I've 1064 00:42:59.610 --> 00:43:02.250 done that. Like a crackhead. Yeah. Basically go, excuse me, 1065 00:43:02.289 --> 00:43:04.889 ladies and gentlemen, sorry to bother you. I can see 1066 00:43:04.909 --> 00:43:07.269 you're all just trying to enjoy your journey. I don't 1067 00:43:07.289 --> 00:43:10.570 need the charger for the entire trip. About 40%

will do. 1068 00:43:10.829 --> 00:43:11.909 That's how bad. 1069 00:43:11.929 --> 00:43:13.550 You remember that one? Was that from one of your 1070 00:43:13.570 --> 00:43:16.329 daddy days out when you were a kid? 1071 00:43:16.510 --> 00:43:17.349 So you're on tour, Sean? 1072 00:43:17.710 --> 00:43:19.570 I am on tour. Thank you. Tell me about your tour. 1073 00:43:19.710 --> 00:43:20.750 It's called This Is Torture. 1074 00:43:21.329 --> 00:43:22.010 I'll go through the dates. 1075 00:43:22.070 --> 00:43:25.150 Is it spelt tour as in torture? No. Should I 1076 00:43:25.170 --> 00:43:27.710 have done that? No. No, thank you. I don't think 1077 00:43:27.750 --> 00:43:31.550 it's a good idea. It's called This Is Torture. And yeah, 1078 00:43:31.739 --> 00:43:33.840 it's a spring tour. Very much looking forward to it. 1079 00:43:33.840 --> 00:43:34.340 I mean, it's more. 1080 00:43:34.400 --> 00:43:35.300 Best time to go on tour. 1081 00:43:35.599 --> 00:43:35.940 Spring. 1082 00:43:36.079 --> 00:43:39.360 Well, yeah, because as it moves on, it gets brighter 1083 00:43:39.400 --> 00:43:40.619 and lighter and warmer. 1084 00:43:40.639 --> 00:43:42.900 Yes. Oh, do you know what, though? I quite like 1085 00:43:42.940 --> 00:43:45.260 the autumn tour because then... Has it? 1086 00:43:45.900 --> 00:43:48.780 I'm just trying to get a bit of positivity. I'm 1087 00:43:48.840 --> 00:43:52.900 saying I'm positive about autumn. You don't have to just 1088 00:43:52.920 --> 00:43:55.260 be so edgy all the time. You can just join in. Yeah. 1089 00:43:55.519 --> 00:43:58.119 All right. Pro autumn. Here we go. Here he is. 1090 00:43:58.199 --> 00:44:00.010 I like it when the Christmas decks go up and 1091 00:44:00.070 --> 00:44:03.030 you're touring around and you're looking at the programme, seeing 1092 00:44:03.050 --> 00:44:05.210 who's in the panto. And there's that excitement of the 1093 00:44:05.289 --> 00:44:05.809 autumn tour. 1094 00:44:06.079 --> 00:44:08.500 You're looking at the programme to see who's doing panzer 1095 00:44:08.519 --> 00:44:11.929 because you've used brick on your phone. So you're having 1096 00:44:11.969 --> 00:44:15.150 to pick up the leaflet on the phone. But yeah, 1097 00:44:15.170 --> 00:44:17.110 it's called This Is Torture and it's basically, I mean, 1098 00:44:17.130 --> 00:44:19.150 you know, it's kind of, I suppose it's, as with 1099 00:44:19.210 --> 00:44:19.809 all of us, isn't it? 1100 00:44:19.829 --> 00:44:20.360 It's more of. 1101 00:44:21.110 --> 00:44:24.469 The same. You know, you get to use... What's quite 1102 00:44:24.510 --> 00:44:27.530 nice is most people go to therapy and they pay 1103 00:44:27.570 --> 00:44:30.679 their therapist to listen to them. But I've worked so 1104 00:44:30.719 --> 00:44:33.559 that people pay to listen to me talk about my problems. 1105 00:44:33.679 --> 00:44:35.360 So is there a theme to this or is it 1106 00:44:35.380 --> 00:44:37.659 just all the funniest stand-up you've got

in the last. 1107 00:44:37.519 --> 00:44:39.530 Year or so? Yeah, I mean, there's not a theme 1108 00:44:39.570 --> 00:44:41.829 and I've not even tried to kind of contrive one. 1109 00:44:41.869 --> 00:44:44.690 But I think there is a kind of crossroads where 1110 00:44:45.110 --> 00:44:47.789 you are at 40 and you do have two kids... 1111 00:44:48.280 --> 00:44:50.949 And so your life has changed probably more than it 1112 00:44:51.010 --> 00:44:52.230 ever has done since you began. 1113 00:44:52.309 --> 00:44:53.889 It's the busiest your life will ever be. 1114 00:44:54.329 --> 00:44:54.610 Yes. 1115 00:44:54.630 --> 00:44:55.210 In this moment. 1116 00:44:55.230 --> 00:44:57.719 And it's the most, it's the most it's going to, 1117 00:44:57.820 --> 00:44:59.800 I think anyway, we'll see, but it's like the most 1118 00:44:59.840 --> 00:45:03.550 it's going to. It's the most it's going to transform. 1119 00:45:03.610 --> 00:45:06.889 So you're coming at life, I think, from a slight... 1120 00:45:06.730 --> 00:45:09.550 I'm making it sound much more profound than it is. 1121 00:45:09.590 --> 00:45:12.929 But you are coming at life from an angle that 1122 00:45:12.949 --> 00:45:14.690 you wouldn't have been coming at it from. So I 1123 00:45:14.730 --> 00:45:18.409 talk about the concept of knowing who you are. you 1124 00:45:18.429 --> 00:45:20.190 know you have kids you've got to have some now 1125 00:45:20.210 --> 00:45:22.579 you've got to have some sort of concrete idea of 1126 00:45:22.599 --> 00:45:23.860 who you are. 1127 00:45:23.780 --> 00:45:26.159 And what your morals and what's your idea of that 1128 00:45:26.219 --> 00:45:27.619 thing because your kids are going to come and ask. 1129 00:45:27.619 --> 00:45:30.980 Absolutely and so it's talking about kind of grasping that 1130 00:45:31.000 --> 00:45:33.079 exactly who is it I am and then of course 1131 00:45:33.139 --> 00:45:35.099 who you are most of the time depends on what 1132 00:45:35.239 --> 00:45:36.519 mood you're in and. 1133 00:45:36.460 --> 00:45:37.949 Is it true that you end by at the end 1134 00:45:37.969 --> 00:45:40.090 going and I am Sean. 1135 00:45:39.889 --> 00:45:44.889 Moore yes who I am that's who I am no 1136 00:45:44.929 --> 00:45:47.349 it's actually wrong you're close it's I am human. 1137 00:45:48.800 --> 00:45:50.019 I don't know if he jokes with her or not. 1138 00:45:50.039 --> 00:45:53.739 You call me now. I think you've always been an 1139 00:45:53.760 --> 00:45:57.119 incredible stand-up, but you were almost a little bit not 1140 00:45:57.380 --> 00:46:00.130 old enough. You were brilliant when you were younger, but 1141 00:46:00.150 --> 00:46:02.710 you'd moan about things and be angry and passionate about 1142 00:46:02.750 --> 00:46:04.789 stuff that was a bit more like, you know when 1143 00:46:04.809 --> 00:46:07.650 you're getting a round of Jäger bombs and there'll be 1144 00:46:07.650 --> 00:46:09.550 40 people in the audience going, yeah, it's

funny, but 1145 00:46:10.090 --> 00:46:11.070 I'm not actually bothered about that. 1146 00:46:11.090 --> 00:46:13.659 But now you're talking about real-life things that really do 1147 00:46:13.719 --> 00:46:16.519 matter to people. Yeah, well, when I was doing all 1148 00:46:16.539 --> 00:46:19.920 that stuff, you don't really realise at the time, you've 1149 00:46:19.960 --> 00:46:24.019 got an hour of stand-up. And I was naive. I 1150 00:46:24.059 --> 00:46:27.760 didn't realise that if you spoke about alcohol and your 1151 00:46:27.780 --> 00:46:30.920 drinking habits for an hour in one show, then you 1152 00:46:30.960 --> 00:46:35.050 might get a reputation for someone that just spoke about alcohol. 1153 00:46:35.110 --> 00:46:38.670 Who knew? And I honestly just hadn't thought about the 1154 00:46:38.710 --> 00:46:42.309 kind of consequences. But precisely, that is how I lived 1155 00:46:42.369 --> 00:46:44.309 my life. And that is how a lot of people... 1156 00:46:44.130 --> 00:46:46.710 That's how my friends lived their life. So, you know, 1157 00:46:46.889 --> 00:46:49.269 now that I'm 40 and two kids and I don't drink, 1158 00:46:49.309 --> 00:46:51.469 I won't be talking about that. But I was... slightly 1159 00:46:51.530 --> 00:46:53.960 pretentious probably, but I always end up being pretentious when 1160 00:46:53.980 --> 00:46:56.320 talking about stand-up. I like to talk about, I think 1161 00:46:56.400 --> 00:46:59.139 I even kind of alluded to it earlier, is there'll 1162 00:46:59.159 --> 00:47:01.280 be comedians that talk about the world you read and 1163 00:47:01.300 --> 00:47:02.780 there are comedians that talk about the world you see. 1164 00:47:03.219 --> 00:47:05.340 And I just much prefer to talk about the world 1165 00:47:05.380 --> 00:47:07.130 in front of me, the world that I see. the 1166 00:47:07.150 --> 00:47:09.690 world that we experience. I find that, that to me 1167 00:47:09.750 --> 00:47:12.090 is where the funny is. That's what makes me laugh. 1168 00:47:12.239 --> 00:47:14.500 That is so spot on. And I didn't realise I 1169 00:47:14.519 --> 00:47:16.840 felt like that until you said it. So well done. 1170 00:47:17.000 --> 00:47:17.780 There you go. 1171 00:47:17.800 --> 00:47:21.039 That was the best thing that's happened on this episode. 1172 00:47:21.059 --> 00:47:22.010 Thanks to you. 1173 00:47:22.030 --> 00:47:23.530 You gave him a bit of space and he fucking 1174 00:47:23.610 --> 00:47:24.409 drilled it top corner. 1175 00:47:24.510 --> 00:47:28.510 My, my, my, my grace, grace, my missus, my grace, 1176 00:47:28.530 --> 00:47:29.210 my dear grace. 1177 00:47:30.230 --> 00:47:33.070 Shit, I'd say, well, fucking hell, you need her, don't you? 1178 00:47:33.489 --> 00:47:36.940 Absolutely. But I have to, because on my, I often, 1179 00:47:37.440 --> 00:47:39.619 as you know, I have a podcast called Oh My Dog. 1180 00:47:39.679 --> 00:47:41.780 I was about to ask for the other podcast promo. 1181 00:47:42.000 --> 00:47:43.739 Oh My Dog. Oh My Dog. And Class Clown. And 1182 00:47:43.780 --> 00:47:46.300 Class Clown, which you recently came on, and it was fantastic. 1183 00:47:46.380 --> 00:47:49.119 Grace is always having to correct me for things I've 1184 00:47:49.139 --> 00:47:51.909 said on Oh My Dog. So she wanted me to... 1185 00:47:52.329 --> 00:47:54.429 To actually just quickly mention, if I can, I know 1186 00:47:54.469 --> 00:47:59.449 we're short on time. Well, I mentioned the last time 1187 00:47:59.510 --> 00:48:02.030 I was here, I mentioned the breach birth, but it 1188 00:48:02.050 --> 00:48:05.510 was an emergency breach birth. And we didn't have that 1189 00:48:05.550 --> 00:48:08.659 with Casper. And so what happened was, I don't think 1190 00:48:09.039 --> 00:48:11.699 we were kind of entirely or certainly I wasn't entirely 1191 00:48:11.760 --> 00:48:16.039 aware of. the dangers of the emergency breech birth when 1192 00:48:16.059 --> 00:48:19.920 it was happening. Right. And actually Wilder's oxygen was cut off. Oh, God. 1193 00:48:19.960 --> 00:48:22.400 Jesus fucking Lord. And all the red levers were pulled. 1194 00:48:22.539 --> 00:48:24.719 And in my kind of naivety and probably in the 1195 00:48:24.739 --> 00:48:28.690 kind of adrenaline of the birth anyway, I... And thank God, 1196 00:48:28.769 --> 00:48:31.829 either was grace totally. You weren't aware of what? We 1197 00:48:31.849 --> 00:48:35.170 weren't really aware of the seriousness of what happened. And then... 1198 00:48:35.510 --> 00:48:39.789 When we had Casper and it was an entirely smooth birth. 1199 00:48:40.289 --> 00:48:42.989 It was only then that I realised how kind of 1200 00:48:43.050 --> 00:48:47.539 horrific that first birth was. And I'm just so blessed 1201 00:48:48.099 --> 00:48:51.099 that it happened that way round. Because I was completely 1202 00:48:51.179 --> 00:48:55.960 oblivious to how horrific and scary that actually was. This 1203 00:48:56.039 --> 00:48:59.360 terrible moment was happening in front of me. But luckily, 1204 00:48:59.440 --> 00:49:02.659 I had absolutely no idea. It was the most me thing. 1205 00:49:02.699 --> 00:49:04.139 And I told you I passed out, didn't I, the 1206 00:49:04.159 --> 00:49:04.659 first time round? 1207 00:49:04.929 --> 00:49:06.090 But there was none of that. Well, at least there's 1208 00:49:06.119 --> 00:49:07.070 a reason why you passed out. 1209 00:49:07.090 --> 00:49:09.590 It was horrendous. Yeah, it makes sense now. Yeah, exactly. 1210 00:49:09.650 --> 00:49:11.650 Right, I've got your tour dates here. Okay, here we go. 1211 00:49:11.710 --> 00:49:13.389 So we've got the Bury St Edmunds Apex. 1212 00:49:13.409 --> 00:49:18.190 Oh, the Apex. Do the cities, and I'll name the venues. Yeah, okay. 1213 00:49:18.230 --> 00:49:18.750 Here we go. 1214 00:49:18.769 --> 00:49:19.949 Have you heard of Leeds? 1215 00:49:21.039 --> 00:49:22.360 The City Varieties. 1216 00:49:22.900 --> 00:49:27.579

Musical. Hartford. Beam. Correct. Chorley. 1217 00:49:28.420 --> 00:49:29.099 Little Theatre. 1218 00:49:29.260 --> 00:49:29.559 Correct. 1219 00:49:29.920 --> 00:49:30.619 Basingstoke. 1220 00:49:31.440 --> 00:49:34.159 Anvil. Haymarket. Don't look at me. 1221 00:49:34.320 --> 00:49:34.800 Maidstone. 1222 00:49:35.579 --> 00:49:36.079 Hazlitt. 1223 00:49:36.119 --> 00:49:36.579 Correct. 1224 00:49:36.619 --> 00:49:42.739 Cambridge. Cambridge. Junction. Junction. Yep. Stamford. Corn Exchange. Correct. Sheffield. Classic. 1225 00:49:42.820 --> 00:49:48.690 I love the Stamford Corn Exchange. Sheffield. Oh. Crucible. Steamworks. 1226 00:49:49.090 --> 00:49:49.550 Taunton. 1227 00:49:49.849 --> 00:49:50.789 Brewhouse. Correct. 1228 00:49:51.050 --> 00:49:52.730 Swansea. You'll never know. 1229 00:49:52.769 --> 00:49:53.329 I don't know. 1230 00:49:53.369 --> 00:49:57.130 Taliesin. What the fuck's that? 1231 00:49:57.150 --> 00:49:57.710 I've got no idea. 1232 00:49:57.750 --> 00:49:58.409 Good luck getting there. 1233 00:49:58.630 --> 00:50:01.469 Yeah. Southend. Cliffs. 1234 00:50:01.889 --> 00:50:02.250 Palace. 1235 00:50:02.610 --> 00:50:05.550 Winchester. Don't know. Never been there. Theatre Royal. Yep. Brighton. 1236 00:50:06.480 --> 00:50:09.239 Court Exchange. Correct. Crewe. Oh, that is nice. 1237 00:50:09.519 --> 00:50:10.079 Lyceum. 1238 00:50:10.199 --> 00:50:10.400 Yep. 1239 00:50:10.699 --> 00:50:12.880 Coventry. It's not Coventry. 1240 00:50:13.000 --> 00:50:14.530 It's Warwick. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1241 00:50:14.929 --> 00:50:15.449 Folkestone. 1242 00:50:15.849 --> 00:50:16.449 Quarter House. 1243 00:50:17.269 --> 00:50:17.809 Yeah, Quarter House. 1244 00:50:17.829 --> 00:50:19.630 Lyme Regis. Don't know. No idea. 1245 00:50:19.750 --> 00:50:22.469 Marine Theatre. Fucking nightmare getting out of that. About an 1246 00:50:22.510 --> 00:50:23.650 hour of country lanes. 1247 00:50:23.969 --> 00:50:24.389 Okay. 1248 00:50:24.429 --> 00:50:24.909 Swindon. 1249 00:50:25.429 --> 00:50:32.929 Wyvern. Yep. Exeter. Northcote. Yep. Bristol. Bristol. Vic. Redgrove. Hull. 1250 00:50:33.489 --> 00:50:33.789 Truck. 1251 00:50:34.070 --> 00:50:35.849 Yeah. God, it's like doing You Bet. 1252 00:50:40.670 --> 00:50:41.309 Liverpool. 1253 00:50:41.889 --> 00:50:42.269 Don't know. 1254 00:50:42.369 --> 00:50:43.809 Epstein Theatre. That's got to be renamed. 1255 00:50:43.829 --> 00:50:51.849 Oh, no. What is that? I thought Colston Hall was bad. 1256 00:50:51.909 --> 00:50:52.389 Salford. 1257 00:50:52.929 --> 00:50:53.349 Lowry. 1258 00:50:53.570 --> 00:50:54.170 Northampton. 1259 00:50:54.449 --> 00:50:56.780 Correct. Derngate. Correct. 1260 00:50:56.800 --> 00:50:56.969 London. 1261 00:50:58.400 --> 00:50:59.599 Hack the Empire. Correct. Yes. 1262 00:50:59.880 --> 00:51:02.059 Well done. That's a great talk. You'll smash it, Sean. 1263 00:51:02.320 --> 00:51:04.320 Oh, yeah. Great fun. Thank you. 1264 00:51:04.460 --> 00:51:05.639 That takes you through to October. 1265 00:51:05.860 --> 00:51:06.139 Hang on. 1266 00:51:06.420 --> 00:51:06.639 No. 1267 00:51:07.179 --> 00:51:09.480 Yeah, there's a spring talk and then the London one's 1268 00:51:09.519 --> 00:51:10.619 in October and we'll see. 1269 00:51:10.659 --> 00:51:11.659 We'll probably put in more. 1270 00:51:11.500 --> 00:51:12.880 Dates before that and all of that. 1271 00:51:12.920 --> 00:51:13.619 That's all before June. 1272 00:51:13.639 --> 00:51:17.260 Lovely. Stuff. Thank you. Thanks so much. Thanks for having me. 1273 00:51:19.860 --> 00:51:20.420 Sean Walsh. 1274 00:51:21.039 --> 00:51:21.840 Love a bit of Sean Walsh. 1275 00:51:22.260 --> 00:51:23.119 Love a bit of Sean Walsh. 1276 00:51:23.179 --> 00:51:25.840 One of the best stand-ups in the country. I'm going 1277 00:51:25.860 --> 00:51:26.980 to go and see him in Folkestone, I think. 1278 00:51:27.320 --> 00:51:27.639 Are you? 1279 00:51:27.840 --> 00:51:30.000 My parents always go and see him. They live down there, 1280 00:51:30.019 --> 00:51:31.030 so I'm going to try and get to that one. 1281 00:51:31.429 --> 00:51:31.639 Good. 1282 00:51:32.130 --> 00:51:34.510 Go and see Sean Walsh. This is torture across the 1283 00:51:34.610 --> 00:51:35.210 UK now. 1284 00:51:35.769 --> 00:51:36.789 See you next week, Josh. Bye.

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