Full Transcript for S04 EP30: James Bay

Favourite is 84 00:03:31.129 --> 00:03:34.680 an underwhelming celeb spot, which is a great celeb spot, 85 00:03:34.719 --> 00:03:37.819 but Torquay's an underwhelming place to have spotted Favourite. Do 86 00:03:37.840 --> 00:03:38.659 you know what I mean? 87 00:03:38.680 --> 00:03:42.580 Yeah, yeah, exactly. Totally good work. But yeah, big celebrities 88 00:03:42.919 --> 00:03:46.099 in tiny places or small celebrities. in very impressive places. 89 00:03:46.139 --> 00:03:48.689 That's what we're looking for. In profile, not height. 90 00:03:48.710 --> 00:03:50.990 Yeah, in profile. We don't want Richard Osman in a 91 00:03:51.009 --> 00:03:52.789 model village. That's not what we're looking for. 92 00:03:53.090 --> 00:03:56.139 Greg Davies in Tinkerton. Is Tinkerton a place? I imagine 93 00:03:56.180 --> 00:03:57.099 it is near you, isn't it? 94 00:03:57.219 --> 00:03:59.919 It probably is, yeah. Susan Calman at the Burj Khalifa. 95 00:03:59.960 --> 00:04:06.479 LAUGHTER Anyway, anyway, moving on. 96 00:04:06.639 --> 00:04:08.159 Yes. Moving on. 97 00:04:08.379 --> 00:04:09.599 Do you want an Instagram message? 98 00:04:09.960 --> 00:04:10.240 Yeah. 99 00:04:10.759 --> 00:04:12.930 Here we go. Hello, I'm a long-time fan of the 100 00:04:12.939 --> 00:04:14.469 podcast and everything you say. 101 00:04:14.490 --> 00:04:16.370 I'm still thinking about celebrities. 102 00:04:16.430 --> 00:04:19.810 It's impossible not to think of celebrities in big places 103 00:04:19.889 --> 00:04:20.910 or vice versa. 104 00:04:21.149 --> 00:04:21.370 Yeah. 105 00:04:21.810 --> 00:04:23.269 Pudgy the dog up the millennium eye. 106 00:04:23.949 --> 00:04:27.480 Oh, my God. Pudgy the dog up the millennium eye. 107 00:04:27.500 --> 00:04:31.040 That is the most naughtiest reference. Patsy the dog's been 108 00:04:31.079 --> 00:04:34.600 dead ten years. The London Eye. The Millennium Eye, did 109 00:04:34.620 --> 00:04:35.100 you call it? 110 00:04:35.120 --> 00:04:36.399 Yeah, I know. 111 00:04:36.500 --> 00:04:41.290 It's the Millennium Wheel. It's the London Eye. oh my 112 00:04:41.329 --> 00:04:44.410 god anyway to make josh feel better here's a tired 113 00:04:44.449 --> 00:04:47.290 story from my husband when our first time when my 114 00:04:47.329 --> 00:04:49.699 first child was a few months old i took him 115 00:04:49.879 --> 00:04:51.939 to stay at my mum's for the weekend to give 116 00:04:52.379 --> 00:04:55.980 my husband a child free night out of his mates 117 00:04:56.019 --> 00:04:58.029 in crystal palace where we lived at the time and 118 00:04:58.069 --> 00:05:01.149 occasionally would see josh at the sangebury's Where's this? 119 00:05:01.230 --> 00:05:04.569 Crystal Palace? Why would I be in Sainsbury's in Crystal Palace? 120 00:05:04.920 --> 00:05:06.180 That's definitely not me, is it? 121 00:05:06.180 --> 00:05:08.300 Yeah, it's a big Sainsbury's as well. So, Josh Whittaker 122 00:05:08.339 --> 00:05:13.600 in Sainsbury's, Crystal Palace. LAUGHTER So anyway, they're out and 123 00:05:13.639 --> 00:05:15.540 about in Crystal Palace. Went out with his mates for 124 00:05:15.560 --> 00:05:17.779 the first time since becoming a dad. He was so 125 00:05:17.899 --> 00:05:20.339 tired that he fell asleep in the pub early on 126 00:05:20.399 --> 00:05:23.100 in the night just after a couple of drinks. The 127 00:05:23.160 --> 00:05:25.370 bar staff told his friends that he had to leave 128 00:05:25.449 --> 00:05:27.949 as he was too drunk. But they managed to persuade 129 00:05:28.290 --> 00:05:31.149 them that he was merely the dad of a newborn. 130 00:05:31.430 --> 00:05:33.250 And please, could they leave him for a bit to 131 00:05:33.290 --> 00:05:36.790 have a sleep, which they kindly did. hanging their josh 132 00:05:36.970 --> 00:05:40.370 owls sleep soundly for 11 hours every night and under 133 00:05:40.490 --> 00:05:42.750 and the sleep training is now a distant memory rebecca 134 00:05:42.810 --> 00:05:44.850 and russ evans well i'm all. 135 00:05:44.769 --> 00:05:46.860 Right now i'm not one to be complaining at the 136 00:05:46.879 --> 00:05:47.399 moment no. 137 00:05:47.319 --> 00:05:49.160 But your issue now is the movement of the child 138 00:05:49.199 --> 00:05:49.540 isn't it. 139 00:05:50.079 --> 00:05:52.540 Yeah it's actually the awaking time is the problem. 140 00:05:52.360 --> 00:05:53.620 Um it was quite a good one to come off 141 00:05:53.639 --> 00:05:55.480 the back of tom crane last week the sleep one 142 00:05:55.699 --> 00:05:57.959 if anyone's feeling tom crane's pain i've got another sleep 143 00:05:58.019 --> 00:06:00.079 one here we love your podcast listen every week the 144 00:06:00.120 --> 00:06:02.459 more tired than josh feature always gives us a giggle 145 00:06:02.500 --> 00:06:04.240 we have a two and a half year old who's 146 00:06:04.399 --> 00:06:07.699 never slept my husband is a police dog handler and 147 00:06:07.750 --> 00:06:10.149 his working dog lives at home with us i came 148 00:06:10.189 --> 00:06:12.610 down early one morning after ian had left for work 149 00:06:12.629 --> 00:06:15.149 to find a very baffled looking dog quick phone call 150 00:06:15.189 --> 00:06:17.910 later which went a little something like have you forgotten 151 00:06:17.970 --> 00:06:21.449 something him no it's liver and wire and as a 152 00:06:21.490 --> 00:06:24.810 waggy tail oh shit i'm on my way so he'd 153 00:06:24.850 --> 00:06:27.149 gone on a shift as a police dog handler without 154 00:06:27.170 --> 00:06:28.029 a police dog. 155 00:06:28.490 --> 00:06:29.370 Oh, my God. 156 00:06:29.689 --> 00:06:30.500 That is incredible. 157 00:06:30.540 --> 00:06:33.180 But he took the two-year-old who actually got let loose 158 00:06:33.240 --> 00:06:36.019 on a drug dealer and bit his arm and contained 159 00:06:36.060 --> 00:06:40.839 him until backup arrived. Thanks for the laughs and making 160 00:06:40.879 --> 00:06:42.939 us feel a bit more sane. Heather,

Ian and police 161 00:06:42.959 --> 00:06:45.689 dog Joe. No child, though. Didn't say. 162 00:06:45.709 --> 00:06:46.569 That's weird. 163 00:06:46.769 --> 00:06:50.269 So, Heather, Ian... And Police Dog Joe. No kid's name. 164 00:06:50.310 --> 00:06:51.949 No kid's name. But the dog got name checked. 165 00:06:52.009 --> 00:06:52.810 Well, maybe there's no kid. 166 00:06:52.990 --> 00:06:54.470 I don't know. I think we're getting bogged down by 167 00:06:54.490 --> 00:06:55.430 this for no reason, aren't we? 168 00:06:55.449 --> 00:06:56.569 Yeah, we don't need to get into it. 169 00:06:56.649 --> 00:06:56.870 Right. 170 00:06:57.100 --> 00:06:58.000 Should we get into James Bay? 171 00:06:58.319 --> 00:06:59.339 Yes. 172 00:06:59.579 --> 00:07:01.560 Really good interview, this. He's a very nice bloke, James Bay, 173 00:07:01.600 --> 00:07:01.980 isn't he? 174 00:07:02.060 --> 00:07:04.029 A lovely bloke. What a nice guy. 175 00:07:04.100 --> 00:07:08.870 Very, very open and very... He's very, like, tender, isn't he? 176 00:07:08.870 --> 00:07:11.009 Very emotional, like, really loves. 177 00:07:11.050 --> 00:07:14.149 Musicians are more emotionally open than comedians, aren't they, right? Yeah, 178 00:07:14.170 --> 00:07:14.509 they are. 179 00:07:14.569 --> 00:07:17.610 And I remember I'm sort of like on one side 180 00:07:17.629 --> 00:07:19.410 of the sort of comedian fence and all my mates 181 00:07:19.430 --> 00:07:20.920 have grew up with. So like when you speak to 182 00:07:20.939 --> 00:07:23.459 somebody who's like really in touch with their emotions. But yeah, 183 00:07:23.480 --> 00:07:25.779 he loves his kid so much. And it's really sort 184 00:07:25.819 --> 00:07:28.120 of heartwarming to hear, isn't it, really? He's a nice bloke, 185 00:07:28.220 --> 00:07:32.319 old babe. James Bay. Oh, Jay Bay. Anyway, here's James Bay. 186 00:07:34.970 --> 00:07:37.350 James Bay, welcome to the podcast. How's it going? 187 00:07:37.370 --> 00:07:37.589 Good? 188 00:07:37.910 --> 00:07:38.170 Good. 189 00:07:38.569 --> 00:07:40.410 Thank you for having me. I don't listen to an 190 00:07:40.529 --> 00:07:43.250 awful lot of podcasts, but I've become... bit obsessed with 191 00:07:43.269 --> 00:07:44.149 this so i'm. 192 00:07:44.230 --> 00:07:46.889 I'm nervous oh oh thank you i thought i was 193 00:07:46.910 --> 00:07:48.670 just gonna say uh thank you for having me i 194 00:07:48.709 --> 00:07:49.470 don't listen. 195 00:07:49.329 --> 00:07:52.040 I'd have respected that as well maybe more maybe more 196 00:07:52.829 --> 00:07:53.199 what's this. 197 00:07:53.180 --> 00:07:56.459 About i haven't got kids but um no speaking. 198 00:07:56.259 --> 00:07:59.319 I've seen a guitar in in the background of josh's picture. 199 00:07:59.040 --> 00:08:01.540 So i'm ready yeah i've got an album out don't 200 00:08:01.560 --> 00:08:03.139 listen but let's plug let's let's. 201 00:08:03.040 --> 00:08:05.800 Do this here's the name of the album see you later. 202 00:08:06.970 --> 00:08:09.649 And what's the kid set up? You've got one child, James? 203 00:08:09.870 --> 00:08:12.550 I have one child. I'm six months into being a dad. 204 00:08:12.689 --> 00:08:17.759 Me and Lucy, my partner, are six months into life 205 00:08:17.800 --> 00:08:19.220 with little Ada, our daughter. 206 00:08:19.240 --> 00:08:20.600 Oh, that's a nice name. 207 00:08:20.839 --> 00:08:24.560 Thank you very much. It's lovely and wonderful and terrifying 208 00:08:24.889 --> 00:08:25.329 all at once. 209 00:08:25.750 --> 00:08:27.529 James, James, you sound quite broken. 210 00:08:27.550 --> 00:08:29.050 OK, all right. 211 00:08:29.110 --> 00:08:35.850 Is that fair? What a great start. LAUGHTER It's fun. 212 00:08:36.070 --> 00:08:38.529 It's the long list. It's always the list is the giveaway. 213 00:08:39.070 --> 00:08:40.990 How is the sleep though? Are you broken or not? 214 00:08:41.220 --> 00:08:41.960 Or is it just early? 215 00:08:42.169 --> 00:08:45.419 The sleep's okay. Um, actually we've been on a bit 216 00:08:45.440 --> 00:08:48.220 of a rollercoaster ride with sleep in the last six months. Um, 217 00:08:48.899 --> 00:08:52.820 and actually one of the most sort of normal scenarios 218 00:08:52.860 --> 00:08:55.629 is that we're all kind of up around about 7am, 219 00:08:55.669 --> 00:08:59.330 which feels pretty good in truth. A lot of the time, um, 220 00:08:59.860 --> 00:09:02.240 Ada's awake from sort of 5.30 and we're just sort 221 00:09:02.259 --> 00:09:05.470 of trying to make her wake at about 7 a.m. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 222 00:09:05.830 --> 00:09:09.509 But then yesterday, completely unexplained, I got up ready to 223 00:09:09.529 --> 00:09:12.429 go because I'm usually changing her nappy at like 7 a.m. 224 00:09:13.230 --> 00:09:16.100 And I went and I peeped in her eyes were 225 00:09:16.129 --> 00:09:18.539 shut and she just slept in till quarter past eight don't. 226 00:09:18.419 --> 00:09:22.500 Know why whoa I lay there wide awake yeah of 227 00:09:22.559 --> 00:09:25.480 course you can never take advantage of that situation. 228 00:09:25.360 --> 00:09:28.820 No not at all basically but um no it was 229 00:09:29.000 --> 00:09:33.279 so so sleep is okay um I think obviously you 230 00:09:33.299 --> 00:09:36.720 know at this point we've both just resigned to it 231 00:09:36.779 --> 00:09:40.149 being sometimes all over the place and just being able 232 00:09:40.169 --> 00:09:43.460 to roll with that we also had like We had 233 00:09:43.500 --> 00:09:45.580 that thing, I feel like it's actually kind of common 234 00:09:45.600 --> 00:09:50.039 that about eight weeks, lots of people's babies sometimes are 235 00:09:50.070 --> 00:09:51.519 sort of chilling out and getting into a little bit 236 00:09:51.570 --> 00:09:53.590 of their own little sort of sleep routine. And life 237 00:09:53.649 --> 00:09:55.929 goes from, especially I suppose with your first baby, it 238 00:09:55.950 --> 00:09:59.509 goes

from madness, complete madness, and like everything's brand new, 239 00:09:59.820 --> 00:10:02.620 to like a little bit of settling. And we thought 240 00:10:02.679 --> 00:10:06.049 by sort of Christmas, we'd like absolutely smashed it. 241 00:10:07.899 --> 00:10:08.679 You completed it. 242 00:10:09.059 --> 00:10:10.960 The naivety is through the roof. 243 00:10:11.000 --> 00:10:12.679 Yeah, I know. 244 00:10:12.899 --> 00:10:17.860 And then mid-January, first signs of teething, first bits of 245 00:10:17.940 --> 00:10:20.950 sleep aggression, Actually, and this is something I wanted to 246 00:10:21.029 --> 00:10:24.120 ask you about briefly. She's been going through, she's all 247 00:10:24.139 --> 00:10:26.659 right at the moment. She's all right now, but eczema arrived. 248 00:10:27.220 --> 00:10:30.179 Oh, really? Yeah, we're big on the eczema scene. We're 249 00:10:30.220 --> 00:10:31.679 big names on the eczema scene. 250 00:10:31.710 --> 00:10:33.289 You're a bit of a player on the eczema scene. 251 00:10:33.370 --> 00:10:35.110 Yeah, I'm big on the eczema scene. 252 00:10:35.169 --> 00:10:37.809 I'm a dairy intolerant guy. If you want anything on that, 253 00:10:37.990 --> 00:10:38.570 which can. 254 00:10:38.409 --> 00:10:41.110 Lead to eczema. It can be the same thing. Josh 255 00:10:41.149 --> 00:10:42.129 is your eczema guy. 256 00:10:42.370 --> 00:10:44.879 Can I just say, so we went through a bit 257 00:10:44.889 --> 00:10:46.639 of a rollercoaster with all of that and it threw 258 00:10:46.700 --> 00:10:49.639 sleep out the window from January till March. 259 00:10:50.039 --> 00:10:51.740 Have you been to the doctor about it? 260 00:10:52.080 --> 00:10:55.480 We've been the whole sort of gambit and we're in 261 00:10:55.500 --> 00:10:57.610 a much better place now. But can I sort of 262 00:10:57.629 --> 00:11:01.169 just say... that for all the wonderful things that libwives 263 00:11:01.210 --> 00:11:02.850 and everybody tell you to sort of help try and 264 00:11:02.889 --> 00:11:05.090 prepare you as your baby arrives, no one says a 265 00:11:05.110 --> 00:11:07.649 word about the potential of eczema. And it's like, I 266 00:11:07.690 --> 00:11:09.519 had no idea. I've just said it to you guys. 267 00:11:09.620 --> 00:11:10.559 And Josh particularly. 268 00:11:10.620 --> 00:11:14.360 It hasn't even come up on this podcast before. It's unspoken. 269 00:11:14.600 --> 00:11:18.500 You know, I've scoured your episodes looking for eczema. 270 00:11:19.500 --> 00:11:22.250 I'm an eczema virgin. I used to have eczema as 271 00:11:22.289 --> 00:11:24.470 a kid, but my kids don't really suffer with eczema. 272 00:11:24.610 --> 00:11:27.029 What's the eczema game? Talk me through it. What's going on? 273 00:11:27.230 --> 00:11:27.690 It just. 274 00:11:28.779 --> 00:11:32.039 sort of i suppose kind of just maybe you'll agree 275 00:11:32.059 --> 00:11:34.940 like it randomly reveals itself if it wants to yeah 276 00:11:35.419 --> 00:11:37.039 and then you've got the problem of sort of dealing 277 00:11:37.080 --> 00:11:38.950 with like a for us it was a tiny baby 278 00:11:38.990 --> 00:11:41.070 who you know she had she needed to sort of 279 00:11:41.110 --> 00:11:43.529 itch and this and that the other yeah actually um 280 00:11:43.909 --> 00:11:45.950 obviously you've got to keep baby's nails really short that's 281 00:11:46.009 --> 00:11:49.100 its own help Yeah. 282 00:11:49.340 --> 00:11:52.019 What's your technique? The clippers, or some people say bite them, 283 00:11:52.080 --> 00:11:53.080 which I think is madness. 284 00:11:53.279 --> 00:11:56.480 So far, the techniques that work best for me was 285 00:11:56.539 --> 00:11:57.190 let Lucy do it. 286 00:11:58.039 --> 00:11:59.399 Okay, fair enough. 287 00:12:00.539 --> 00:12:02.879 She's got brilliant little fingers that are just perfect and 288 00:12:02.899 --> 00:12:04.610 mine are like big sausage disaster. 289 00:12:04.750 --> 00:12:06.590 You do play guitar for a living, so there must 290 00:12:06.629 --> 00:12:07.429 be like. 291 00:12:09.389 --> 00:12:12.190 Big sausage disaster. 292 00:12:12.529 --> 00:12:14.710 I'm just not very intricate with my fingers, if I'm 293 00:12:14.730 --> 00:12:15.289 honest with you. 294 00:12:15.350 --> 00:12:17.669 Never been good with my hands. 295 00:12:18.129 --> 00:12:20.659 Lucy does a fantastic job of that. We heard about 296 00:12:20.679 --> 00:12:22.759 the biting thing. That was never going to happen. And 297 00:12:23.100 --> 00:12:26.080 I will say, because I've heard all sorts of different 298 00:12:26.100 --> 00:12:28.820 stories about people trying to cut their baby's nails. And 299 00:12:28.879 --> 00:12:31.799 Ada is typically... she sort of lies back like she's 300 00:12:31.840 --> 00:12:34.600 at the salon on Lucy's lap. And Lucy was originally 301 00:12:34.620 --> 00:12:36.860 sort of doing, like, clipping her nails while she was asleep. 302 00:12:36.919 --> 00:12:38.720 And she'll just gently come round and be like, oh, 303 00:12:38.740 --> 00:12:39.039 you all right? 304 00:12:39.440 --> 00:12:40.360 Nice, yeah, thank you. 305 00:12:40.399 --> 00:12:41.340 Yeah, just doing my nails. 306 00:12:41.360 --> 00:12:41.779 That's lovely. 307 00:12:42.440 --> 00:12:45.039 And there's no sort of big trouble with it. But 308 00:12:45.080 --> 00:12:46.659 it's still, they seem to grow back, like, in the 309 00:12:46.710 --> 00:12:47.250 next hour. 310 00:12:47.610 --> 00:12:49.649 Well, that is the thing with nails. They will grow back. 311 00:12:50.269 --> 00:12:51.830 Which is intense in itself. 312 00:12:53.529 --> 00:12:55.470 So you must have noticed that about your own nails, right? 313 00:12:55.610 --> 00:13:03.629 LAUGHTER Have you got that weird guitarist nails thing? When 314 00:13:03.669 --> 00:13:05.629 you meet someone who plays guitar where they've got one 315 00:13:05.690 --> 00:13:07.450 hand of long nails and one hand of short nails? 316

00:13:07.529 --> 00:13:09.379 No, I don't go for it, personally. 317 00:13:09.529 --> 00:13:10.009 Oh, OK. 318 00:13:10.029 --> 00:13:11.940 I feel like, especially on electric guitar, you'll just snap 319 00:13:11.960 --> 00:13:12.450 your nails off. 320 00:13:12.620 --> 00:13:14.679 Right, yeah, yeah. It's creepy as well, isn't it? 321 00:13:14.700 --> 00:13:16.860 Yeah, I think it's just a pervert trying to... You know, 322 00:13:16.899 --> 00:13:19.320 like when cyclists shave their legs? You're like, you're only 323 00:13:19.860 --> 00:13:22.620 cycling so you can shave your legs. The legs was 324 00:13:22.659 --> 00:13:25.120 the first thought. That you wanted the nails so you 325 00:13:25.139 --> 00:13:25.679 got a guitar. 326 00:13:25.799 --> 00:13:27.730 Before you know it, you're boosting your way to seven 327 00:13:27.750 --> 00:13:28.710 Tour de France. 328 00:13:29.190 --> 00:13:29.330 Yeah. 329 00:13:30.179 --> 00:13:32.850 You're having a blood transfusion just because you wanted smooth legs. 330 00:13:33.350 --> 00:13:35.309 No one's going faster with the shape of the leg. 331 00:13:35.350 --> 00:13:37.549 No one's playing better guitar with a longer nail. Are 332 00:13:37.570 --> 00:13:37.990 they not? 333 00:13:38.049 --> 00:13:38.669 Is that right? 334 00:13:38.929 --> 00:13:42.500 Not really. But she's so, around this sort of extra 335 00:13:42.509 --> 00:13:44.539 time that, you know, lots of baby clothes in the 336 00:13:44.639 --> 00:13:46.120 early days have got the mitts on the end of 337 00:13:46.139 --> 00:13:50.220 the sleeve. Actually, that was all still too, like, abrasive. 338 00:13:50.649 --> 00:13:51.110 Oh, really? 339 00:13:51.190 --> 00:13:51.649 Oh, wow. 340 00:13:51.690 --> 00:13:53.990 You've had it worse than me. Well, than my daughter 341 00:13:54.289 --> 00:13:54.590 and me. 342 00:13:54.730 --> 00:13:57.870 As someone who's not experienced this. So where is the eczema? 343 00:13:57.909 --> 00:13:59.669 Is it all over the body or just the hands? 344 00:14:00.110 --> 00:14:02.549 I mean, when the doctor we talked to said it 345 00:14:02.610 --> 00:14:03.809 spreads like wildfire. 346 00:14:03.990 --> 00:14:06.309 Yeah, he's not done a great job there, has he? 347 00:14:06.490 --> 00:14:08.850 That was a slightly difficult moment. Otherwise, actually, I have 348 00:14:08.870 --> 00:14:10.289 to give it to him. He's done a fantastic job 349 00:14:10.330 --> 00:14:12.330 in sort of guiding us, but that was a low moment. 350 00:14:12.490 --> 00:14:14.120 What have you got? What are you putting on it? 351 00:14:15.289 --> 00:14:16.529 There's all various. 352 00:14:16.879 --> 00:14:19.179 We did WD-40 in the end. That was a weird one. 353 00:14:19.200 --> 00:14:19.679 Did you do that? 354 00:14:20.000 --> 00:14:20.200 No. What? 355 00:14:23.600 --> 00:14:25.179 I feel like I'm not hanging out with the bigger boys. 356 00:14:25.200 --> 00:14:27.679 We're talking about drugs and I'm like, yeah, yeah. I've 357 00:14:27.700 --> 00:14:31.600 done a big zoo. Yeah, mate. Love bifters. 358 00:14:31.620 --> 00:14:33.779 One of the really handy things was going, we had 359 00:14:33.799 --> 00:14:36.759 to find these, they were these silk mitts, which sounds well, 360 00:14:37.279 --> 00:14:40.600 it sounds really sort of bougie, but she, they've worked. 361 00:14:40.620 --> 00:14:43.299 In fact, we found this like an independent, you know what? 362 00:14:43.340 --> 00:14:45.399 There'd be a great small business shout out. They're called 363 00:14:45.539 --> 00:14:47.419 scratch sleeves. Scratch sleeves. 364 00:14:47.440 --> 00:14:49.039 Scratch sleeves. Okay. 365 00:14:49.200 --> 00:14:50.240 For us, they've been brilliant. 366 00:14:50.399 --> 00:14:53.230 Also, basically, the X-Men was the baby would feel uncomfortable 367 00:14:53.250 --> 00:14:55.370 all the time, scratch it and make it worse and 368 00:14:55.429 --> 00:14:57.809 not sleep and whine and moan. 369 00:14:57.950 --> 00:15:00.850 Exactly. Worst case scenario, round the clock, we had to 370 00:15:00.870 --> 00:15:01.830 keep our hands out of her face. 371 00:15:02.070 --> 00:15:03.480 Oh, because she had it on her face? 372 00:15:03.799 --> 00:15:05.740 How do you keep our hands out of her face? 373 00:15:06.039 --> 00:15:06.720 By staying awake. 374 00:15:07.379 --> 00:15:10.480 Pad them away oh man alive. 375 00:15:10.279 --> 00:15:12.299 What the closest we've sort of had to that is 376 00:15:12.419 --> 00:15:15.759 um uh chicken pox my youngest got chicken pox really 377 00:15:15.820 --> 00:15:18.879 bad so again it's loads of like itchy lumps so 378 00:15:18.940 --> 00:15:21.019 that they're scratching all the time and you can't tell 379 00:15:21.340 --> 00:15:23.600 like a six one fold not to scratch and they're 380 00:15:23.620 --> 00:15:25.279 on their back if you had chicken pox the last 381 00:15:25.299 --> 00:15:26.340 thing you want to do is lay down. 382 00:15:26.240 --> 00:15:29.779 All day When yours had chicken pox, how young? 383 00:15:30.259 --> 00:15:32.100 Really young, actually. I can't quite remember, but she was 384 00:15:32.139 --> 00:15:34.740 like not, she was a baby, like probably six, seven 385 00:15:34.759 --> 00:15:36.980 months laying down. She wasn't walking or crying, but she, 386 00:15:37.179 --> 00:15:39.519 because my eldest, who was about three, got it and 387 00:15:39.539 --> 00:15:41.590 she had a couple, but she was honestly covered. She's 388 00:15:41.610 --> 00:15:45.470 still got little chicken pox scars that are slowly fading away, 389 00:15:45.490 --> 00:15:48.110 but it was really brutal. She was absolutely covered head 390 00:15:48.129 --> 00:15:49.210 to toe. It was disgusting. 391 00:15:49.409 --> 00:15:51.509 We had to get my daughter jabbed for chicken pox 392 00:15:51.610 --> 00:15:54.970 because me and my mum couldn't agree on whether I'd 393 00:15:55.029 --> 00:15:57.250 had it. And it's very dangerous for an adult. 394 00:15:57.289 -->

00:15:58.629 That's so mufty, Plymouth. 395 00:16:00.509 --> 00:16:02.029 I heard that it's dangerous for an adult. 396 00:16:02.549 --> 00:16:04.299 Yeah, so it's bad for an adult. So me and 397 00:16:04.320 --> 00:16:06.179 my daughter went for his and hers, his and hers. 398 00:16:06.460 --> 00:16:08.679 Daddy and daughter kind of chicken pox shots. 399 00:16:09.019 --> 00:16:11.440 We're having to have an injection because your nan is 400 00:16:11.519 --> 00:16:14.679 bad at admin. I hope that's what you told her. 401 00:16:14.710 --> 00:16:16.570 This is your nan's fault. When you cry, think of 402 00:16:16.610 --> 00:16:16.929 your nan. 403 00:16:16.950 --> 00:16:19.110 Well, she thought I hadn't, but I thought I had. 404 00:16:19.289 --> 00:16:19.929 So there we go. 405 00:16:19.950 --> 00:16:23.129 I don't know where measles and shingles come into this. 406 00:16:23.350 --> 00:16:25.809 Don't talk to me about mumps, mate. Don't talk to 407 00:16:25.830 --> 00:16:27.960 me about mumps. Have you had mumps? 408 00:16:27.980 --> 00:16:29.919 No, I haven't, no. My dad had mumps when he 409 00:16:29.960 --> 00:16:32.580 was tiny. So there's a picture of him, a little 410 00:16:32.600 --> 00:16:35.340 black and white picture from 100 years ago, pretty much. 411 00:16:35.879 --> 00:16:39.460 And he's this tiny little baby standing in the garden 412 00:16:39.500 --> 00:16:41.159 with a massive face. And he looks like one of 413 00:16:41.200 --> 00:16:42.820 those little... You know the footballers with. 414 00:16:42.740 --> 00:16:44.519 The big heads? The Corinthian figures? 415 00:16:44.679 --> 00:16:46.710 He's in a nappy and he looks exactly like one 416 00:16:46.769 --> 00:16:49.629 of those. LAUGHTER He's got a little smile on his face, 417 00:16:49.669 --> 00:16:51.169 but he says his memories of it were, it was 418 00:16:51.210 --> 00:16:55.029 absolutely horrible. So fingers crossed. We had, so sleep was 419 00:16:55.080 --> 00:16:56.820 sort of all over the place for a while. And 420 00:16:57.179 --> 00:17:01.080 I think that four month, five month regression thing was 421 00:17:01.159 --> 00:17:04.269 not great. But the teething thing was actually, she seemed 422 00:17:04.289 --> 00:17:07.150 to be, have like teething symptoms for. Oh mate. 423 00:17:07.549 --> 00:17:10.690 It takes forever to get those teeth out. 424 00:17:10.750 --> 00:17:13.250 Literally about five or six days ago, two have come through. 425 00:17:13.490 --> 00:17:16.430 Well, I don't want to pull rank here, but try 426 00:17:16.470 --> 00:17:21.759 teething with thoroughbreds when they've got these teeth. With your 427 00:17:21.799 --> 00:17:25.440 little normal-sized teeth, these big old chompers ploughing through their head. 428 00:17:26.099 --> 00:17:27.740 How big are the first set of a Beckett? 429 00:17:28.019 --> 00:17:31.140 Oh, absolute heavy duty. Well, the thing is, when a 430 00:17:31.180 --> 00:17:35.339 Beckett kid's teeth come out, you're basically going, are they 431 00:17:35.359 --> 00:17:36.619 going to get them or not? Do you know what 432 00:17:36.640 --> 00:17:38.089 I mean? You know, like some families got the ears 433 00:17:38.140 --> 00:17:40.650 or the nose or the chin or the dimples. It's 434 00:17:40.730 --> 00:17:42.569 all you ever get. And if you've got the Beckett teeth, 435 00:17:42.589 --> 00:17:44.849 you know, you've got them. They just never don't stop. 436 00:17:44.869 --> 00:17:45.490 Keep coming. 437 00:17:45.509 --> 00:17:47.869 Have your parents got the Beckett teeth? Well, not both 438 00:17:47.910 --> 00:17:48.990 of them. They're not Milhouse. 439 00:17:49.150 --> 00:17:52.089 No, my dad, they're from my dad's side. The Beckett's, 440 00:17:52.109 --> 00:17:54.140 the Beckett teeth. Yeah, he's got big Beckett teeth. My 441 00:17:54.200 --> 00:17:56.079 mum's got some more normal sized teeth. 442 00:17:56.119 --> 00:17:57.119 What about your brothers? 443 00:17:57.559 --> 00:17:59.640 Yeah, they've all got big Beckett teeth. But see, my 444 00:17:59.660 --> 00:18:02.200 brother Joe's got like a bigger mouth than me because 445 00:18:02.220 --> 00:18:04.349 he's like six foot two and he's bigger, but mine 446 00:18:04.420 --> 00:18:06.250 looks bigger because of the proportions. Yeah. 447 00:18:06.269 --> 00:18:08.490 Do they come through... So, A, this first teeth have 448 00:18:08.509 --> 00:18:11.710 come through so sharp. So, your girl has come through 449 00:18:11.730 --> 00:18:12.529 like razors. 450 00:18:12.650 --> 00:18:15.259 Yeah, the little ones do. And then when they're about 451 00:18:15.759 --> 00:18:17.500 six or seven, they get the bigger ones. So, my 452 00:18:17.579 --> 00:18:21.160 six-year-old's getting like the... It's just mad when they come through. 453 00:18:21.180 --> 00:18:24.460 You've got little silk gloves for your teeth. Yeah, little silk, 454 00:18:24.500 --> 00:18:27.299 little teeth scratcher mitts to go on. But yeah, hers 455 00:18:27.339 --> 00:18:29.220 have come through. But she knocked her teeth out when 456 00:18:29.259 --> 00:18:31.960 she was two. She had no front two teeth for 457 00:18:32.089 --> 00:18:34.430 four years. How did she knock them out? She was 458 00:18:34.470 --> 00:18:37.410 on a scooter at a preschool and she fell over 459 00:18:37.430 --> 00:18:39.750 and one went a bit brown and a bit wobbly 460 00:18:39.809 --> 00:18:41.670 and then they both just fell out. So she had 461 00:18:41.710 --> 00:18:44.109 no front teeth. She still eats on the side of her... 462 00:18:44.029 --> 00:18:45.549 She doesn't use her front teeth. She just eats on 463 00:18:45.569 --> 00:18:46.950 the side of her mouth still. She's not used to 464 00:18:46.990 --> 00:18:48.470 having teeth at the front. 465 00:18:48.589 --> 00:18:54.069 What, like Popeye? Yeah. Oh, that is... Yeah, that's my front. But, 466 00:18:54.190 --> 00:18:56.849 you know, we're first-timers, so it all seems very intense. 467 00:18:57.069 --> 00:18:58.670

So have you been back working? 468 00:18:58.769 --> 00:19:02.670 I have been back working, and it's... You know, I'm 469 00:19:02.710 --> 00:19:04.990 getting a much better sense at the moment of what 470 00:19:05.170 --> 00:19:07.809 the rest of the year will be. And actually, when 471 00:19:07.849 --> 00:19:12.490 I first discovered this brilliant podcast, I was isolating. I 472 00:19:12.519 --> 00:19:15.619 have a writing, I have like a place around the 473 00:19:15.660 --> 00:19:18.200 corner from our house, like a writing room where I 474 00:19:18.380 --> 00:19:20.420 was going to work and it sort of doubles up 475 00:19:20.480 --> 00:19:22.460 as a flat. There's like a little sort of house 476 00:19:22.480 --> 00:19:23.579 set up and a bed and all that. 477 00:19:23.619 --> 00:19:24.980 Have you moved out, James? Is that what you're trying 478 00:19:25.000 --> 00:19:25.349 to tell us? 479 00:19:25.599 --> 00:19:29.500 Have we got the divorce scoop? On the sidebar of 480 00:19:29.539 --> 00:19:30.319 shame next week. 481 00:19:32.740 --> 00:19:35.450 It was really convenient because I got COVID at the 482 00:19:35.470 --> 00:19:37.009 end of, I started this year in January, I was 483 00:19:37.029 --> 00:19:39.720 doing a two week Just a little sort of refresher tour. 484 00:19:39.859 --> 00:19:42.039 It was really fun. Just like me, solo acoustic. 485 00:19:42.140 --> 00:19:43.480 I bet it was, mate. You've got a kid at 486 00:19:43.529 --> 00:19:45.509 home that's not sleeping. I'll just head out on a 487 00:19:45.529 --> 00:19:47.450 refresher tour. Thank you very much. 488 00:19:47.490 --> 00:19:51.299 Bash out the greatest hits of an acoustic. No other 489 00:19:51.500 --> 00:19:52.500 band members to pay. 490 00:19:53.660 --> 00:19:56.480 It was also when, while I was away, thinking, okay, 491 00:19:57.000 --> 00:19:59.369 all right, a little bit of sleep, not bad. Yeah. 492 00:19:59.680 --> 00:20:01.390 But it was when the X-Men was starting, so it 493 00:20:01.410 --> 00:20:05.500 was very stressful being away because Lucy was a dealmaker. Because, 494 00:20:05.680 --> 00:20:09.069 you know, ultimately, Lucy's smashing it, and I'm trying to 495 00:20:09.109 --> 00:20:10.130 sort of come up behind. 496 00:20:10.250 --> 00:20:12.529 Paul McCartney used to take his kids on tour, didn't he? 497 00:20:12.789 --> 00:20:13.730 What a madman. 498 00:20:13.829 --> 00:20:16.029 Well, look, I'm not ruling it out. It's just when 499 00:20:16.049 --> 00:20:19.470 you've got such a tiny baby, it's not quite feel 500 00:20:20.089 --> 00:20:23.779 possible yet. No, we would ultimately like a sort of 501 00:20:23.799 --> 00:20:26.920 a future, especially before she sort of starts school proper. 502 00:20:26.960 --> 00:20:28.759 And I don't know. This is where I'm very naive. 503 00:20:28.880 --> 00:20:30.819 I'm going to put you in this position. She's kicking 504 00:20:30.980 --> 00:20:36.130 off because... She doesn't like her dinner. It's 8.04 p.m.

505 00:20:36.170 --> 00:20:40.869 You're due on stage, 10 past eight. She's backstage. She's 506 00:20:40.910 --> 00:20:42.220 kicking off. Disaster. 507 00:20:42.279 --> 00:20:43.980 I don't think, if you take them on tour, they 508 00:20:44.000 --> 00:20:44.960 just stay in the hotel room. 509 00:20:45.019 --> 00:20:45.880 It's a bit of that. 510 00:20:45.940 --> 00:20:46.619 That's the thing, isn't it? 511 00:20:46.619 --> 00:20:48.220 The other thing slightly different to you guys on tour 512 00:20:48.279 --> 00:20:51.190 is the volume of my show. 513 00:20:51.369 --> 00:20:51.609 Yeah. 514 00:20:51.930 --> 00:20:53.150 Well, I get some laughs, mate. 515 00:20:53.230 --> 00:20:53.349 Yeah. 516 00:20:57.690 --> 00:21:00.009 Do you know what i mean you know anyone under 517 00:21:00.009 --> 00:21:01.410 14 that goes to beckett's show has to wear those 518 00:21:01.490 --> 00:21:03.200 ear defenders you see kids. 519 00:21:02.990 --> 00:21:05.539 In festivals it's gonna get it's gonna get crazy stick 520 00:21:05.579 --> 00:21:08.099 them on kid you'll be all right don't damage your 521 00:21:08.180 --> 00:21:10.180 ears with all the laughs is there. 522 00:21:10.039 --> 00:21:13.140 In music because i'd say comedians are kind of people 523 00:21:13.180 --> 00:21:16.700 that often have kids late they're kind of in a 524 00:21:16.759 --> 00:21:20.460 kind of state of like suspended being young maybe through 525 00:21:20.480 --> 00:21:22.180 their 30s a lot of comedians No. 526 00:21:22.200 --> 00:21:24.400 No, it's not that. What it is is all comedians 527 00:21:24.420 --> 00:21:27.769 are awkward little virgin nerds till about 25, get a 528 00:21:27.789 --> 00:21:30.509 bit of confidence in their first job being funny, start 529 00:21:30.549 --> 00:21:33.190 the circuit at 30, meet someone at 40, have a kid. 530 00:21:33.390 --> 00:21:35.710 That's what happens. It's hard to have a kid when 531 00:21:35.750 --> 00:21:37.369 you haven't had sex for 25 years. 532 00:21:38.819 --> 00:21:43.460 No, in music, I think it's similar or even more so. Like, 533 00:21:43.500 --> 00:21:45.880 people are trying to... I don't know, it feels like 534 00:21:45.900 --> 00:21:48.339 a lot of people are sort of... Touring is a. 535 00:21:48.259 --> 00:21:49.339 Mad way of life, so. 536 00:21:50.740 --> 00:21:53.279 But maybe... I feel like I'm speaking for everybody here 537 00:21:53.299 --> 00:21:54.319 and I don't want to speak for anybody. 538 00:21:54.559 --> 00:21:55.460 Could you just speak for everyone? 539 00:21:55.480 --> 00:21:56.740 James Bay, speak for everyone. Fuck them. 540 00:21:56.759 --> 00:21:59.460 Just speak for everyone. Put it on record. This is 541 00:21:59.480 --> 00:22:00.559 the voice of the music industry. 542 00:22:00.579 --> 00:22:00.720 Yeah. 543 00:22:01.000 --> 00:22:03.019 Put it in the article. James Bay has left his 544 00:22:03.059 --> 00:22:04.819 wife and lives in a flat around the corner. Sleeps 545 00:22:04.940 --> 00:22:06.779 what he calls a bed. We know it's just some 546 00:22:06.839 --> 00:22:10.579 duvet on the floor. He talks for everyone and he 547 00:22:10.640 --> 00:22:13.660 is the ambassador of eczema in children. They're the three takeaways. 548 00:22:13.859 --> 00:22:16.140 It seems at least sort of 50-50 like a lot 549 00:22:16.180 --> 00:22:18.319 of people aren't. Touring is a sort of unique way 550 00:22:18.339 --> 00:22:22.220 of life and some people... kids don't fold into it 551 00:22:22.279 --> 00:22:24.480 very easily. And then other people are like, I want 552 00:22:24.660 --> 00:22:27.299 my personal sort of family life to be on the road. 553 00:22:28.000 --> 00:22:28.289 Yeah. 554 00:22:28.349 --> 00:22:30.029 We know there's people out there who sort of grew 555 00:22:30.130 --> 00:22:31.210 up on tour. 556 00:22:31.529 --> 00:22:32.349 Yeah. 557 00:22:32.490 --> 00:22:34.470 Kids of musicians from death. 558 00:22:34.609 --> 00:22:36.430 Normally always a bit weird in my experience. 559 00:22:37.119 --> 00:22:38.460 Or they become.... 560 00:22:40.480 --> 00:22:43.059 That's me speaking for me, not everyone. Well, it's difficult because, 561 00:22:43.200 --> 00:22:44.700 you know, I don't really take the kids on tour 562 00:22:44.740 --> 00:22:47.029 because it's different for you, though. If you go to, like, 563 00:22:47.069 --> 00:22:49.609 America or Europe, you'll be away for three months. 564 00:22:49.670 --> 00:22:53.190 Yeah, you actually go properly on tour, whereas me and Rob. 565 00:22:53.210 --> 00:22:54.670 We just pop off for a couple of nights when 566 00:22:54.690 --> 00:22:56.849 Lou's quite happy at the break, I think. But I've 567 00:22:56.890 --> 00:22:58.289 got a gig in Southend and I'm going to let 568 00:22:58.329 --> 00:23:00.329 the kids come. And I've got one in Bromley, which 569 00:23:00.349 --> 00:23:01.390 I'm going to get them to come and see the 570 00:23:01.430 --> 00:23:03.390 stage and maybe watch the opening ten minutes of the 571 00:23:03.410 --> 00:23:04.769 show to see what I do because they're old enough 572 00:23:04.789 --> 00:23:05.710 to know what's going on now. 573 00:23:05.730 --> 00:23:05.869 Right. 574 00:23:06.089 --> 00:23:09.009 Obviously, I'll swear and it'll be inappropriate, but who cares, really? 575 00:23:09.170 --> 00:23:11.750 Awful chat the next morning when you go to... Normally, 576 00:23:11.789 --> 00:23:13.859 it goes better than that. That was a tough crowd. 577 00:23:14.380 --> 00:23:17.279 Do come to a different night because you didn't need 578 00:23:17.319 --> 00:23:19.299 the ear defenders, it turns out, after all. 579 00:23:19.400 --> 00:23:24.920 Daddy, what does dirty nonces mean? 580 00:23:24.940 --> 00:23:26.960 I think with the, like you say, like the America, 581 00:23:26.980 --> 00:23:29.369 like all this sort of transatlantic and going all around 582 00:23:29.380 --> 00:23:32.170 the world. I go to Australia at some point in 583 00:23:32.210 -->

00:23:34.859 a touring year. I go to Australia for a bit. 584 00:23:35.990 --> 00:23:36.670 And it's far. 585 00:23:37.049 --> 00:23:40.660 Yeah. And in a year, this year, 2022, when we're 586 00:23:41.500 --> 00:23:43.960 gearing ourselves up, me and Lucy, for like, right, I'm 587 00:23:43.980 --> 00:23:47.920 going to be away working sometimes. Ada's very young. And 588 00:23:47.980 --> 00:23:50.910 we do want to explore taking her away with me, 589 00:23:50.970 --> 00:23:52.779 with us, at some point. 590 00:23:53.230 --> 00:23:55.579 In my experience, I'd say you're better off traveling with 591 00:23:55.599 --> 00:23:57.180 them when they're younger, because when they get to point 592 00:23:57.259 --> 00:23:59.740 they're in nursery and school, they can't just come away 593 00:23:59.759 --> 00:24:00.019 with you. 594 00:24:00.380 --> 00:24:00.819 Exactly. 595 00:24:00.839 --> 00:24:04.339 And they're actually easier when they're like under a year 596 00:24:04.779 --> 00:24:08.099 to take because you're up and they're crying anyway. What's 597 00:24:08.160 --> 00:24:09.759 it matter if you're in a hotel, you're somewhere else. 598 00:24:09.799 --> 00:24:11.980 And then once they get in a buggy and they 599 00:24:12.000 --> 00:24:14.069 can sit upright, we went to Copenhagen with a six 600 00:24:14.109 --> 00:24:15.890 month old. And it was amazing because you just push 601 00:24:15.910 --> 00:24:18.369 them around and it's when they're like toddlers and running around, 602 00:24:18.390 --> 00:24:20.670 it's a bit of a nightmare. But you know, I 603 00:24:20.710 --> 00:24:22.890 think it's not as difficult as you probably think it 604 00:24:22.910 --> 00:24:24.369 will be because you sort of build it up once 605 00:24:24.390 --> 00:24:25.619 you get in the routine of it, but you just 606 00:24:25.630 --> 00:24:27.059 have to take the plunge to do it initially. 607 00:24:27.640 --> 00:24:30.420 Yeah. Mostly I'm thinking about Lucy. She's the one who's 608 00:24:30.440 --> 00:24:31.420 going to be like, she's. 609 00:24:31.279 --> 00:24:33.119 Not a fan of these songs. Not at all. 610 00:24:33.680 --> 00:24:35.819 The kid's fine. I can't listen through that set again. 611 00:24:35.839 --> 00:24:44.059 Yeah. Ada will be still, like you say, sort of 612 00:24:44.079 --> 00:24:45.819 young enough later this year, later in the summer, I'm 613 00:24:45.839 --> 00:24:47.849 going to, I know already I'm in America for a month. 614 00:24:47.920 --> 00:24:48.119 Yeah. 615 00:24:48.369 --> 00:24:51.049 There's a bit between now and then where I'm there 616 00:24:51.069 --> 00:24:53.069 for about two weeks. And then there's bits of Europe 617 00:24:53.089 --> 00:24:54.750 that I'm going to go to where, yeah, I'm not 618 00:24:54.769 --> 00:24:57.009 going to sort of be coming back like every other day. 619 00:24:57.029 --> 00:24:58.549 I'm going to be there for a week or more. 620 00:24:58.910 --> 00:25:01.089 I'm awful as well. Like it's, I've been with Lucy 621 00:25:01.109 --> 00:25:03.730 for a long time. We've been together for, for since 622 00:25:03.769 --> 00:25:07.269 we were teenagers. And in the early days of me 623 00:25:07.289 --> 00:25:12.480 going away, she was like brilliant at saying, basically, chin up, 624 00:25:12.640 --> 00:25:14.700 get out there and give it your best shot. I'll 625 00:25:14.720 --> 00:25:17.299 be here when you get back sort of thing. And 626 00:25:17.359 --> 00:25:19.180 I was rubbing, I was like, Oh no, I'm going 627 00:25:19.200 --> 00:25:21.230 to miss you so much, all this stuff. And, um, 628 00:25:21.470 --> 00:25:23.470 I've sort of built up a, we both built up 629 00:25:23.529 --> 00:25:25.970 like a sort of strength to be able to deal 630 00:25:26.009 --> 00:25:28.380 with it over the years that I've, I've been doing 631 00:25:28.390 --> 00:25:30.660 this now. Now we've had this little baby and I just, 632 00:25:30.960 --> 00:25:33.380 I just, Sounds well soppy, but I'm just going to 633 00:25:33.400 --> 00:25:34.539 miss her like crazy. 634 00:25:34.799 --> 00:25:37.910 Yeah, that is hard. Because it's the guilt as well 635 00:25:38.029 --> 00:25:40.369 as the missing. You feel bad that you're not there 636 00:25:40.410 --> 00:25:42.950 to help, but then you've got to earn the money, 637 00:25:43.069 --> 00:25:43.410 haven't you? 638 00:25:43.589 --> 00:25:46.430 That's exactly it. Recently, last couple of nights, yesterday, I 639 00:25:46.509 --> 00:25:50.859 was only out for... sort of the afternoon and the evening, 640 00:25:51.000 --> 00:25:53.259 I was making a music video and I was away 641 00:25:53.539 --> 00:25:55.220 and I was just in little breaks. I'm looking at 642 00:25:55.240 --> 00:25:57.609 videos on my phone of Ada. 643 00:25:58.009 --> 00:26:00.150 That's what my wife does. She goes, I can't wait 644 00:26:00.170 --> 00:26:02.970 till they're in bed. I can't wait till they're in bed. 645 00:26:02.990 --> 00:26:05.369 Then we get, they go to bed and she'll just 646 00:26:05.410 --> 00:26:07.839 watch videos of them from the day. And you're like, mate, 647 00:26:08.480 --> 00:26:09.519 this is our hour. 648 00:26:09.880 --> 00:26:10.700 This is our one hour. 649 00:26:10.720 --> 00:26:12.140 This is our succession. 650 00:26:13.009 --> 00:26:16.750 Yeah, between watching those and squeezing in at this point, 651 00:26:16.910 --> 00:26:20.000 three episodes of Peaky Blinders. I feel like no matter 652 00:26:20.059 --> 00:26:22.259 how we've managed that in the last, what feels like 653 00:26:22.279 --> 00:26:24.799 the last three months, we've got three episodes in and 654 00:26:24.839 --> 00:26:27.960 we're like, such a luxury. 655 00:26:28.000 --> 00:26:31.470 Yeah. Have you started writing, has it affected your songs? 656 00:26:31.509 --> 00:26:34.430 Have you started writing about her? And would you shy 657 00:26:34.490 --> 00:26:35.269 away from that? 658 00:26:35.430 --> 00:26:39.809 I would, honestly, I don't know how many

songs my 659 00:26:39.849 --> 00:26:42.109 fans want to hear about. Oh, my beautiful baby, how 660 00:26:42.170 --> 00:26:45.609 I love you. I've brought life into the world. Like, yeah, 661 00:26:45.750 --> 00:26:48.490 it'll find its way in like one way or another 662 00:26:48.549 --> 00:26:50.559 into my writing. It will sort of find its way 663 00:26:50.579 --> 00:26:54.210 because it's been a huge... emotional sort of transition for 664 00:26:54.259 --> 00:26:56.039 me yeah I'll just I'll just try not to be 665 00:26:56.099 --> 00:26:57.339 too on the nose about it. 666 00:26:57.500 --> 00:26:59.680 So is she Lucy on maternity leave then is she 667 00:26:59.720 --> 00:27:01.880 due to go back at some point or no. 668 00:27:01.859 --> 00:27:04.349 She actually she finished working and she this has been 669 00:27:04.420 --> 00:27:06.910 very much a sort of I suppose like a dream 670 00:27:06.970 --> 00:27:08.250 of hers to be able to just be. 671 00:27:08.170 --> 00:27:10.210 A mum full-time mum yeah that kind of thing so 672 00:27:10.230 --> 00:27:11.930 there's well as you say because then that that brings 673 00:27:11.970 --> 00:27:13.950 an extra pressure if she's going back to work then 674 00:27:14.470 --> 00:27:17.339 you've got to find someone to cover that you're both 675 00:27:17.400 --> 00:27:18.759 shifts and stuff so so. 676 00:27:18.599 --> 00:27:20.640 I'm lucky in that respect and we're lucky of course 677 00:27:20.660 --> 00:27:22.319 that she we're in a position that she can do 678 00:27:22.359 --> 00:27:25.480 that and she um yeah it was it was a 679 00:27:25.619 --> 00:27:27.079 it was a big kind of dream for her to 680 00:27:27.180 --> 00:27:29.619 to be able to do that and that's well which 681 00:27:29.680 --> 00:27:31.819 is gorgeous it's a really we feel very sort of 682 00:27:31.839 --> 00:27:32.799 lucky that we can do that. 683 00:27:32.700 --> 00:27:33.819 Does it make you want to have more then do 684 00:27:34.559 --> 00:27:36.420 you reckon you're you're loving you it seems like you're 685 00:27:36.440 --> 00:27:37.839 absolutely besotted. 686 00:27:37.599 --> 00:27:40.519 We both we both come from like siblings as well 687 00:27:40.680 --> 00:27:42.579 like we neither so do i but that put me 688 00:27:42.700 --> 00:27:52.250 off Our personal is we'd love her to have mates, 689 00:27:52.470 --> 00:27:55.089 you know, actual mates in the house to run around 690 00:27:55.109 --> 00:27:56.849 with and all of that sort of thing. So yeah, 691 00:27:56.910 --> 00:28:00.210 that's definitely the sort of dream going forward because it's 692 00:28:00.230 --> 00:28:02.349 also just sort of what we know. And I think 693 00:28:02.369 --> 00:28:03.869 growing up, it made complete sense to us. 694 00:28:04.319 --> 00:28:06.059 I think as well, I didn't really, I was always like, yeah, 695 00:28:06.119 --> 00:28:07.599 it'd be nice to have a couple of kids. I 696 00:28:07.619 --> 00:28:10.339 always wanted two kids, like at least. And then like, 697 00:28:10.359 --> 00:28:12.160 it's only now, like, cause there's only a two year gap. 698 00:28:12.200 --> 00:28:14.980 They play so well. it's such a blessing when they've 699 00:28:15.000 --> 00:28:17.000 got that because like you don't have to do anything 700 00:28:17.180 --> 00:28:18.930 if you go on holiday and there's a pool that's 701 00:28:18.970 --> 00:28:21.109 sort of safe enough for them just to swim in 702 00:28:21.170 --> 00:28:23.329 or you know walk wade in if it's like a 703 00:28:23.390 --> 00:28:25.390 small one you just you literally just sit there and 704 00:28:25.430 --> 00:28:27.410 they play with each other again. 705 00:28:26.859 --> 00:28:30.180 Like me and my brother are like he's only about 706 00:28:30.180 --> 00:28:32.799 15 months older than me or something and and lucy's 707 00:28:32.880 --> 00:28:35.750 brothers are It's all like no more than 18 months. 708 00:28:35.769 --> 00:28:37.509 Yeah, I think it's really, I think it makes a 709 00:28:37.529 --> 00:28:39.910 massive difference where I think sometimes people, if you have 710 00:28:39.930 --> 00:28:42.420 a sibling, obviously, you know, sometimes you can't have one 711 00:28:42.720 --> 00:28:45.079 straight away after. But I think if you can, I'd 712 00:28:45.099 --> 00:28:46.720 really recommend it because it is a bit of a 713 00:28:46.740 --> 00:28:49.119 nightmare the first year if you've got like two under 714 00:28:49.160 --> 00:28:51.359 two or two under 18 months. But then once, if 715 00:28:51.380 --> 00:28:55.019 they're the same age, they just play. Because if there's 716 00:28:55.039 --> 00:28:57.640 a big gap, sometimes it's like a 10-year-old trying to 717 00:28:57.680 --> 00:28:59.940 play with a two-year-old. They're on two different wavelengths, aren't they, 718 00:28:59.960 --> 00:29:00.559 if there's a big gap? 719 00:29:00.839 --> 00:29:03.809 Yeah, is it mad, just like one thing you said there, 720 00:29:03.869 --> 00:29:06.049 like when you've got, well, yeah, two under two, is 721 00:29:06.089 --> 00:29:06.569 it mental? 722 00:29:07.089 --> 00:29:10.329 Well, it's not mental, but the worst part is you go, 723 00:29:11.150 --> 00:29:13.470 I can't believe how easy it was just having one 724 00:29:13.509 --> 00:29:16.150 kid in the house. But then you can't even, saying 725 00:29:16.170 --> 00:29:18.109 that to you now is like you can't imagine it. 726 00:29:18.470 --> 00:29:21.319 You know how you look back on when you said, like, 727 00:29:21.380 --> 00:29:23.420 I was so naive at Christmas? You're going to look 728 00:29:23.440 --> 00:29:25.319 back on this interview in two or three years and 729 00:29:25.339 --> 00:29:28.220 you're going to go, what was I complaining about? 730 00:29:29.369 --> 00:29:31.369 They just don't move. But that's it when they start 731 00:29:31.410 --> 00:29:32.430 removing is the problem. 732 00:29:32.630 --> 00:29:36.180 This is it. And she still isn't actually, she's dead keen,

733 00:29:36.480 --> 00:29:39.650 but she's not actually going anywhere yet. There's been a paranoia. 734 00:29:39.720 --> 00:29:41.910 that I've just about got over now, but the first 735 00:29:41.950 --> 00:29:44.230 sort of three or so months, I was like, God, quick, 736 00:29:44.250 --> 00:29:44.730 get on a tummy. 737 00:29:45.210 --> 00:29:47.680 Yeah, because you're like, if I don't do tummy time, 738 00:29:47.720 --> 00:29:50.799 what's going to happen? I know no one that was 739 00:29:50.900 --> 00:29:54.259 adversely affected by a lack of tummy time. But I'm 740 00:29:54.299 --> 00:29:57.089 just saying now, obviously, it's great, do it, et cetera, 741 00:29:57.109 --> 00:29:59.289 et cetera. I'm not part of the anti-tummy time group. 742 00:29:59.309 --> 00:30:01.609 Certain people obviously do have problems with their neck, and 743 00:30:01.829 --> 00:30:03.789 it's at a different angle, whatever, and that's like... Hello, 744 00:30:03.849 --> 00:30:04.529 here I am. 745 00:30:05.670 --> 00:30:07.430 Maybe that's why I've got a bad neck. I didn't 746 00:30:07.450 --> 00:30:08.430 do any tummy time. 747 00:30:09.329 --> 00:30:11.839 But I think that's either going to happen or not. 748 00:30:11.890 --> 00:30:13.640 I don't think you need to train it or test it. 749 00:30:13.779 --> 00:30:15.299 You're either going to have that bad neck or not. 750 00:30:15.519 --> 00:30:18.740 And it's too easy as well, I find. When ultimately 751 00:30:18.799 --> 00:30:20.819 she's going to sort of find her way, it's still 752 00:30:20.859 --> 00:30:24.019 too easy to sort of get paranoid about like, we 753 00:30:24.039 --> 00:30:25.759 got one of the things that what they call you 754 00:30:25.880 --> 00:30:27.839 hang it over the door and she can sort of bounce. Yeah. 755 00:30:27.880 --> 00:30:28.180 Yeah. 756 00:30:28.200 --> 00:30:28.759 The bouncer. 757 00:30:28.779 --> 00:30:30.480 Yeah. We did that the first time of the day 758 00:30:30.500 --> 00:30:33.759 because we were curious, you know, you sort of lift 759 00:30:33.779 --> 00:30:35.940 the baby up on your lap, like holding her under 760 00:30:36.009 --> 00:30:40.009 her armpits. And she often, you know, their legs will 761 00:30:40.049 --> 00:30:42.410 go straight and they'll want to sort of almost without 762 00:30:42.430 --> 00:30:45.380 kind of use their legs. Yeah. she's got no interest 763 00:30:45.440 --> 00:30:48.119 in using her legs. She just don't know what you're 764 00:30:48.140 --> 00:30:49.799 trying to do. And she's like sitting back down on 765 00:30:49.819 --> 00:30:52.200 my bum, I was fine like that. But on her tummy, 766 00:30:52.769 --> 00:30:55.630 hopefully with a view to crawling, she's like after it, 767 00:30:56.049 --> 00:30:59.470 she's into that. So, and immediately I'm like, but the 768 00:30:59.509 --> 00:31:03.549 legs aren't working. is she ever gonna walk. 769 00:31:03.609 --> 00:31:07.069 Yeah imagine at six months you're panicking she's not walking that. 770 00:31:06.990 --> 00:31:09.529 Is my daughter's walked to nine months so she's way 771 00:31:09.569 --> 00:31:11.210 too early and i didn't realize how early that was 772 00:31:11.470 --> 00:31:14.250 but she it looks so weird because she was so 773 00:31:14.349 --> 00:31:16.869 because my first born was really little um she's about 774 00:31:16.930 --> 00:31:18.730 normal size now but she was tiny she's only five 775 00:31:18.750 --> 00:31:21.339 pound eleven and quite small and diddy very narrow and 776 00:31:21.380 --> 00:31:23.150 she could walk at nine months but in like we 777 00:31:23.190 --> 00:31:24.400 dressed up in like a coat and a pair of 778 00:31:24.420 --> 00:31:27.240 shoes And she walked with me through the shopping centre 779 00:31:27.279 --> 00:31:29.299 on her own without holding her hand. And everyone was 780 00:31:29.319 --> 00:31:32.240 just like, it was stopping shoppers. Because they were like, 781 00:31:32.400 --> 00:31:34.599 they thought it was a Hasbulla, you know Hasbulla? You know, 782 00:31:34.619 --> 00:31:37.700 the little fella. It was like, they couldn't believe that 783 00:31:37.720 --> 00:31:39.720 a baby could walk at that age and stuff. But 784 00:31:39.759 --> 00:31:41.759 when it's your kid, you don't sort of realise. 785 00:31:41.819 --> 00:31:43.539 And is she now brilliant at walking? Is she going 786 00:31:43.559 --> 00:31:45.579 to be one of those walkers at the Olympics, Rob? 787 00:31:45.680 --> 00:31:47.640 Is she like the world's best walker? 788 00:31:47.869 --> 00:31:49.930 I'll tell you what, though. My second one, though, is 789 00:31:50.190 --> 00:31:55.730 so fast. She's, like, really fast. On holiday, she was 790 00:31:55.809 --> 00:31:58.269 running so fast. And there was, like, a seven-year-old that 791 00:31:58.309 --> 00:32:00.339 was there. And he's, like, quite tall for his age. 792 00:32:00.599 --> 00:32:02.720 She was keeping up with him. And they started calling 793 00:32:02.740 --> 00:32:06.000 her Dash at the end. She's so quick. It's actually 794 00:32:06.019 --> 00:32:07.559 like comedy how fast she is. 795 00:32:07.799 --> 00:32:10.859 I would love it if your daughter became an international athlete. 796 00:32:10.960 --> 00:32:12.880 That would be one of the great... It would be 797 00:32:12.980 --> 00:32:14.039 perfect for the podcast. 798 00:32:14.059 --> 00:32:15.559 Oh, it would be brilliant if she was a sprinter. 799 00:32:15.660 --> 00:32:17.119 I think she might be. She's really... I don't know. 800 00:32:17.140 --> 00:32:19.490 God knows what's happening. But all I'm saying is she's 801 00:32:19.509 --> 00:32:22.190 fucking quick. She's rapid. I can't get her. If she 802 00:32:22.250 --> 00:32:23.670 puts the burners on, I can't catch her. 803 00:32:23.829 --> 00:32:26.730 And both of them are walking at nine months. Yeah, both, yeah. 804 00:32:26.849 --> 00:32:29.329 Don't say that. If you get to nine months, they're not, though, James. 805 00:32:29.390 -->

00:32:29.589 Panicky. 806 00:32:29.609 --> 00:32:30.299 You've only got three months. 807 00:32:30.319 --> 00:32:32.299 Yeah, and I was told that was quite late, actually, James. 808 00:32:32.339 --> 00:32:37.299 It's quite late, developers. At least at five months, everyone's walking. 809 00:32:37.480 --> 00:32:40.329 I'm going to be holding her over a treadmill. Yeah. 810 00:32:42.039 --> 00:32:44.000 So have you got, what are your other little paranoias 811 00:32:44.019 --> 00:32:47.460 that you're aware of mental, but you can't help yourself thinking, 812 00:32:47.539 --> 00:32:49.920 you know, like I used to, if they slept in, 813 00:32:50.400 --> 00:32:52.079 I'd wake them up to check if they're still all right. 814 00:32:52.319 --> 00:32:54.420 Because I assumed something awful had happened because they slept in. 815 00:32:54.579 --> 00:32:55.500 Oh yeah, every time. 816 00:32:55.819 --> 00:33:00.440 On a better night's sleep. when she's so still, breathing 817 00:33:00.549 --> 00:33:03.710 so soft, all throughout this first six months, I've crept 818 00:33:03.769 --> 00:33:04.369 in quietly. 819 00:33:04.630 --> 00:33:06.089 Just to see if the chest is going up and 820 00:33:06.170 --> 00:33:06.450 all that. 821 00:33:06.470 --> 00:33:09.329 Yeah, it's horrible, isn't it? Trying in pitch black, essentially, 822 00:33:09.369 --> 00:33:09.910 to see that. 823 00:33:10.470 --> 00:33:11.390 And you're half asleep. 824 00:33:11.890 --> 00:33:15.960 It's just ridiculous when you're half asleep. Recently, so we've 825 00:33:15.980 --> 00:33:18.960 been sort of getting on to like solids, but of 826 00:33:19.000 --> 00:33:21.599 course they're like mushed down, so they're not solid. 827 00:33:21.680 --> 00:33:22.599 She's not on solids yet. 828 00:33:23.539 --> 00:33:24.839 I'm joking. I'm joking. 829 00:33:25.299 --> 00:33:30.750 I'm sorry, Jay. I wonder who you are. Sorry, I'm messing. 830 00:33:30.769 --> 00:33:35.059 We've been getting on. Initially, she was so up for it. 831 00:33:35.109 --> 00:33:37.890 I'm trying to think now. I don't know, maybe it's 832 00:33:37.910 --> 00:33:40.849 been like six weeks of that. And she was well 833 00:33:40.910 --> 00:33:42.190 up for it. And it was all going in and 834 00:33:42.210 --> 00:33:45.269 it was all pureed, this and that. And as soon 835 00:33:45.309 --> 00:33:48.549 as the tea came through, she's just clamping her mouth shut. 836 00:33:48.630 --> 00:33:50.869 She loves... She's sitting up in the high chair and 837 00:33:50.890 --> 00:33:52.309 the food's all in front of her sort of thing. 838 00:33:52.329 --> 00:33:54.490 And we're coming in with the spoon and it's loaded 839 00:33:54.910 --> 00:33:58.549 and we're ready. She's just... suddenly got no interest. And 840 00:33:58.589 --> 00:34:01.630 it's been quite funny actually how quickly Lucy and I 841 00:34:01.650 --> 00:34:03.859 both go, oh God, well now she's never going to eat. 842 00:34:05.720 --> 00:34:07.000 She's on milk forever. 843 00:34:07.119 --> 00:34:09.880 That's it. What happened to the like few weeks where 844 00:34:09.900 --> 00:34:12.920 she was loving, she was absolutely loving eating something off 845 00:34:12.980 --> 00:34:16.139 a spoon, holding the spoon, taking it off the mouth herself, 846 00:34:16.239 --> 00:34:19.420 the whole bit, mouth wide open, like clamping down, chewing it. Yeah. 847 00:34:19.440 --> 00:34:21.909 So it's very easy to sort of suddenly go, well, 848 00:34:22.480 --> 00:34:23.780 It's all, now we're going backwards. 849 00:34:23.940 --> 00:34:26.699 Everything, everything's a panic. Everything is a panic. Well, it 850 00:34:26.719 --> 00:34:28.530 certainly is in my life. I think that's the thing 851 00:34:28.570 --> 00:34:29.809 is like, she will eat. 852 00:34:30.190 --> 00:34:30.349 Yeah. 853 00:34:30.489 --> 00:34:33.050 And also with kids eating, get ready for them to 854 00:34:33.090 --> 00:34:35.829 refuse food at every opportunity for the next four years 855 00:34:35.869 --> 00:34:36.289 of your life. 856 00:34:36.769 --> 00:34:38.090 I've got a six and four year old. All they 857 00:34:38.170 --> 00:34:38.869 eat is plain pasta. 858 00:34:39.090 --> 00:34:39.269 Yeah. 859 00:34:39.789 --> 00:34:41.889 She's carb loading, isn't she Rob? She's carb loading. 860 00:34:41.969 --> 00:34:46.659 I just give them three heels a day now. I 861 00:34:47.590 --> 00:34:48.130 don't do that. 862 00:34:48.630 --> 00:34:51.949 The funny thing is that Ada is like seemingly loving 863 00:34:51.989 --> 00:34:54.090 the sort of general experience of, like I say, being 864 00:34:54.110 --> 00:34:55.469 sort of sat up in a high chair and sort 865 00:34:55.489 --> 00:34:56.949 of at the table with us. And we usually have 866 00:34:56.989 --> 00:34:58.550 our lunch at the same time and sort of feeding 867 00:34:58.590 --> 00:35:01.269 her and trying to make it all quite obvious. Uh, 868 00:35:01.289 --> 00:35:02.829 but she doesn't want to actually do the eating bit 869 00:35:02.889 --> 00:35:05.570 lately at all, which is, I dunno, like, you know, 870 00:35:05.590 --> 00:35:07.110 there's a good and a bad side to this as well. 871 00:35:07.150 --> 00:35:09.110 Lucy will sort of, we've got all sorts of great 872 00:35:09.159 --> 00:35:12.800 books and she'll read a lot more than me. Granted. 873 00:35:13.679 --> 00:35:16.139 she'll go and sort of seek out information. 874 00:35:15.780 --> 00:35:17.719 So she's doing the reading she's doing the nails and 875 00:35:17.739 --> 00:35:19.760 you're just sort of general overseeing the panic. 876 00:35:21.880 --> 00:35:24.380 Um yeah and she just found she just read something 877 00:35:24.599 --> 00:35:27.360 the other day that obviously says you know your baby 878 00:35:27.380 --> 00:35:29.639 will sort of be into eating and not into eating 879 00:35:29.679 --> 00:35:32.309 and always just sort of let them explore it uh 880 00:35:32.369 --> 00:35:34.190 regardless of whether they're actually sort of

doing an awful 881 00:35:34.210 --> 00:35:36.070 lot of eating especially when they're only six months old 882 00:35:36.869 --> 00:35:39.429 And that was obviously reassuring. 883 00:35:39.510 --> 00:35:41.860 Well, yeah, I find my kids will not eat anything 884 00:35:41.929 --> 00:35:44.480 for three days, like literally pick at stuff. And then 885 00:35:44.760 --> 00:35:47.119 they'll eat like a monster for four days. They go 886 00:35:47.159 --> 00:35:49.940 through like waves of being hungry and into food and 887 00:35:49.960 --> 00:35:51.739 then just like not eating much, but then literally go, 888 00:35:51.800 --> 00:35:53.960 I want another bowl of pasta. It's weird. 889 00:35:54.099 --> 00:35:55.519 They're doing five too, aren't they? 890 00:35:55.539 --> 00:36:00.480 They're doing five too. 891 00:36:00.500 --> 00:36:02.280 We were already at this point with me, like, so 892 00:36:02.320 --> 00:36:05.960 the first three months of Ada's life, I was just 893 00:36:06.000 --> 00:36:07.360 around all the time and that was sort of the 894 00:36:07.400 --> 00:36:11.119 agreed thing between me and my managers. But, um, already 895 00:36:11.570 --> 00:36:14.320 now that I'm back to doing stuff all the time, there's, 896 00:36:14.820 --> 00:36:17.250 you know, I've been around the last couple of weeks 897 00:36:17.329 --> 00:36:19.750 for some, she's doing like mum, mum, mum, mum, mum, mum, 898 00:36:19.809 --> 00:36:22.329 and like a bit of, she only whispers dad, dad, dad. 899 00:36:22.530 --> 00:36:25.769 It's because you're so much noisy at your. 900 00:36:27.730 --> 00:36:30.369 Gigs. You can't hear her. But it wasn't really like 901 00:36:31.170 --> 00:36:34.610 first word territory. Like we weren't really sort of there yet, but, 902 00:36:35.219 --> 00:36:37.539 you know, I think I wasn't around quite for the 903 00:36:37.559 --> 00:36:40.010 sort of first times of all of that stuff. It 904 00:36:40.030 --> 00:36:41.969 catches me off guard all the time. It's the only 905 00:36:41.989 --> 00:36:44.280 thing that makes me worry about going away later in 906 00:36:44.300 --> 00:36:46.280 the year. And like I said, we are looking at 907 00:36:46.969 --> 00:36:49.449 flying them out for a few days which. 908 00:36:49.369 --> 00:36:53.090 Will help oh that's all right for you that is 909 00:36:53.159 --> 00:36:55.269 an absolutely brutal. 910 00:36:54.800 --> 00:36:57.800 One for the but i'll say lucy has dealt with 911 00:36:57.940 --> 00:36:59.880 all manner of jet lag over the last 10 years 912 00:36:59.980 --> 00:37:02.780 and ada i'm just saying like she'll still be young 913 00:37:02.800 --> 00:37:03.920 enough that she'll just roll with it. 914 00:37:04.039 --> 00:37:06.199 What's interesting is even if you go away for a 915 00:37:06.340 --> 00:37:11.849 week you do notice the difference josh like How old 916 00:37:11.869 --> 00:37:14.360 will she be in August and September? 917 00:37:14.360 --> 00:37:15.440 10 and 11 months. 918 00:37:15.900 --> 00:37:18.360 Oh, that's the best month. 919 00:37:18.420 --> 00:37:19.559 We can't get his head like. 920 00:37:19.440 --> 00:37:19.780 This, John. 921 00:37:20.000 --> 00:37:23.239 He's wondering, you aren't... What I'd recommend, what I reckon 922 00:37:23.260 --> 00:37:25.699 would be a best shout is if Lucy came over 923 00:37:25.719 --> 00:37:28.119 and had a holiday or in New York or Boston 924 00:37:28.139 --> 00:37:30.409 or wherever it was and was based somewhere for a week, 925 00:37:30.989 --> 00:37:33.250 you know that you can pop in and out there 926 00:37:33.269 --> 00:37:36.489 and she's not following you about. She's got this hotel 927 00:37:36.570 --> 00:37:41.030 room or Airbnb, somewhere nice that's nice and chilled in 928 00:37:41.070 --> 00:37:42.550 New York and then you can pop in whenever you 929 00:37:42.590 --> 00:37:45.079 can and she has a nice time there because at 10, 930 00:37:45.079 --> 00:37:46.699 11 months, the baby can be in the buggy, they 931 00:37:46.719 --> 00:37:49.320 can walk around New York or maybe go upstate a 932 00:37:49.320 --> 00:37:51.119 little bit where it's a bit greener or something. thing 933 00:37:51.179 --> 00:37:52.679 absolutely and do it that way right in the middle 934 00:37:52.719 --> 00:37:53.639 i think it's the best but. 935 00:37:53.519 --> 00:37:55.360 I think after a plane ride as well we were 936 00:37:55.380 --> 00:37:56.980 never i don't think first time we were going to 937 00:37:57.000 --> 00:37:58.320 put them on a tour bus that feels like a 938 00:37:58.340 --> 00:37:59.000 step too far. 939 00:37:59.039 --> 00:38:01.300 Well because i've got to go i'm going to australia 940 00:38:01.400 --> 00:38:03.920 and i will miss the girls but i'm also thinking 941 00:38:04.599 --> 00:38:06.059 i'm going to australia for three and a half weeks 942 00:38:06.099 --> 00:38:09.699 to it's quite so it's like i will desperately miss 943 00:38:09.719 --> 00:38:12.800 lou and the girls when i'm there but what i 944 00:38:12.820 --> 00:38:15.829 try and do is me if i'm there right in 945 00:38:15.889 --> 00:38:17.889 australia and i've always wanted to do shows in australia 946 00:38:17.929 --> 00:38:19.329 so from a selfish point of view it's a real 947 00:38:19.369 --> 00:38:20.849 career hire for me to go to australia and do 948 00:38:20.889 --> 00:38:26.030 shows and it's amazing me moping around australia feeling guilty 949 00:38:26.469 --> 00:38:28.650 feeling like i'm missing out all i'm doing is torturing 950 00:38:28.670 --> 00:38:31.570 myself me being upset is not going to help lou 951 00:38:31.840 --> 00:38:34.579 and the kids Absolutely right. What's going to help them 952 00:38:34.619 --> 00:38:36.579 the best. She don't want me when she's had a 953 00:38:36.960 --> 00:38:38.800 terrible day with the kids go, Oh, but I just 954 00:38:38.840 --> 00:38:41.179 miss you. Fuck off. You're by the beach in Australia. 955 00:38:41.440 --> 00:38:43.440 So you need to

sort of, sort of be in 956 00:38:43.460 --> 00:38:44.920 that moment or be in that place. Go right. I'm 957 00:38:44.980 --> 00:38:48.210 here doing my shows in Australia to a crowd. And 958 00:38:48.250 --> 00:38:51.449 I'm loving this guilt free because feeling guilt is not 959 00:38:51.469 --> 00:38:53.250 going to help anyone. All it's going to do is 960 00:38:53.289 --> 00:38:54.750 torture you and annoy them. 961 00:38:54.929 --> 00:38:58.409 You're absolutely right. And Lucy is right. Sorry. Lucy says 962 00:38:58.449 --> 00:39:01.559 that same stuff to me. She's absolutely right. And so, 963 00:39:02.579 --> 00:39:04.820 don't get me wrong like you know the shows that 964 00:39:04.840 --> 00:39:06.679 i did just in january just now like being on 965 00:39:06.719 --> 00:39:08.320 stage every night and playing to those people was a 966 00:39:08.719 --> 00:39:09.340 time in my life. 967 00:39:09.260 --> 00:39:11.409 But how but what's it like the day times before 968 00:39:11.590 --> 00:39:13.389 if you can't see the kids that's when that on 969 00:39:13.429 --> 00:39:15.889 the stage because you're fully engaged that's the fine bit 970 00:39:16.130 --> 00:39:17.690 what it is is sat in the hotel room that's 971 00:39:17.710 --> 00:39:20.210 when you can go mental and you start beating yourself 972 00:39:20.329 --> 00:39:21.989 up but you've just got to try and make sure 973 00:39:22.010 --> 00:39:23.550 that you go i'm doing the best thing for me 974 00:39:23.590 --> 00:39:25.369 and my family otherwise i'll be at home there's no 975 00:39:25.409 --> 00:39:27.730 money coming in my career's not progressing i'm not selling 976 00:39:27.750 --> 00:39:30.929 any albums but when you're there you've beat yourself up 977 00:39:30.969 --> 00:39:33.550 because it just it's horrible to yourself just. 978 00:39:33.380 --> 00:39:35.280 Keep on top of like the pictures of you having 979 00:39:35.300 --> 00:39:37.980 a great time on instagram that's all you got just 980 00:39:38.039 --> 00:39:39.300 keep on top of that. 981 00:39:40.260 --> 00:39:43.750 It really like turns you over having a, having a baby. 982 00:39:43.949 --> 00:39:46.969 It's a big head fuck massively, like emotionally as the. 983 00:39:46.969 --> 00:39:50.650 Best and the maddest way that is all the cliches. 984 00:39:51.340 --> 00:39:53.320 I was saying this on this tour, like, uh, to 985 00:39:53.340 --> 00:39:55.159 the crowd every night, I was, I was, I was 986 00:39:55.179 --> 00:39:57.420 saying like, you know, it's nice to see you all again. 987 00:39:57.460 --> 00:39:58.920 It's been so long. Cause it's the first time I've 988 00:39:58.940 --> 00:40:02.030 been doing any of it since COVID began. Uh, you know, 989 00:40:02.050 --> 00:40:03.730 and I said, I've been up to all sorts. I 990 00:40:03.769 --> 00:40:07.110 had a baby. And I said, it is all the 991 00:40:07.150 --> 00:40:09.820 cliches are true. It is the greatest thing ever. I 992 00:40:09.860 --> 00:40:11.760 also

said all the cliches are true. My baby is 993 00:40:11.780 --> 00:40:12.960 the most beautiful baby in the world. 994 00:40:13.099 --> 00:40:14.380 Yeah, that's true. 995 00:40:14.500 --> 00:40:15.760 I said, all of you will think, you know, some 996 00:40:15.780 --> 00:40:17.619 of you in here got babies. I said, no, no, no, mine. 997 00:40:17.699 --> 00:40:19.039 If I was in the crowd, I would shout, but 998 00:40:19.059 --> 00:40:24.849 she can't walk yet. No. My kid, your kid at 999 00:40:24.869 --> 00:40:27.309 a race. Let's do this. But that's the weird thing is, 1000 00:40:27.369 --> 00:40:29.610 it's so important, but no one really gives a shit 1001 00:40:29.630 --> 00:40:31.969 if you've had a kid, do they? No. Because it's so, like, 1002 00:40:32.030 --> 00:40:35.860 for me, it's such a mad thing. But the man 1003 00:40:35.880 --> 00:40:37.460 in the street goes, oh, have you? And no one 1004 00:40:37.480 --> 00:40:40.239 gives a shit, you know, if you're doing the right thing. 1005 00:40:40.380 --> 00:40:42.059 Because you'll be like going, oh, should I do that? 1006 00:40:42.099 --> 00:40:44.139 What will people think if I've left Lucy or Lou 1007 00:40:44.429 --> 00:40:46.750 to do this gig or left, no one gives a fuck. 1008 00:40:46.969 --> 00:40:47.309 No, no, no. 1009 00:40:47.369 --> 00:40:48.389 It's only your own head. 1010 00:40:48.590 --> 00:40:51.989 I show... I am terrible with, like, if I'm seeing... 1011 00:40:51.949 --> 00:40:53.789 As I've, like, got back into, like, going to do 1012 00:40:53.809 --> 00:40:55.230 a bit of promo or something and seeing all the 1013 00:40:55.269 --> 00:40:57.530 people from the record label that I've known now for 1014 00:40:57.570 --> 00:40:59.530 such a long time, and I just, like, put them 1015 00:40:59.559 --> 00:41:00.940 into a corner and get my phone out and show 1016 00:41:00.960 --> 00:41:01.860 them loads of photos of A-Dub. 1017 00:41:02.760 --> 00:41:02.920 Yeah. 1018 00:41:03.039 --> 00:41:06.019 I am that guy. I know. I am that guy. 1019 00:41:06.780 --> 00:41:07.000 Yeah. 1020 00:41:07.099 --> 00:41:10.500 And I'm, like, if they've got kids, then I'm straight 1021 00:41:10.539 --> 00:41:12.920 into all the... What is to everybody else really mundane. 1022 00:41:13.199 --> 00:41:16.480 I remember when she was tiny... one of the easiest 1023 00:41:16.539 --> 00:41:19.550 ways for her to fall asleep was like on my shoulder, 1024 00:41:19.809 --> 00:41:23.250 but it was like, she was so far over my shoulder. 1025 00:41:23.349 --> 00:41:25.090 I was basically holding her by the ankles. 1026 00:41:26.409 --> 00:41:27.789 Like a kind of fireman's lift. 1027 00:41:27.909 --> 00:41:35.199 Yeah. Like a proper, like she's like, or roadkill. I'd 1028 00:41:35.219 --> 00:41:37.519 be like, like, I mean, so many times in a day, 1029 00:41:37.559 --> 00:41:40.210 I'd be like, this is, Is she all right? Look 1030 00:41:40.489 --> 00:41:42.289 at this position. Take a picture. 1031 00:41:42.530 --> 00:41:43.230 Take a picture. 1032 00:41:43.730 --> 00:41:47.659 And then I remember showing people, friends again who already 1033 00:41:47.679 --> 00:41:49.800 had babies. I'd be going, is this normal? It's okay. 1034 00:41:49.900 --> 00:41:51.900 I feel like my shoulder is just cracking her ribs. 1035 00:41:53.260 --> 00:41:56.380 Well, you do find, I could get my second baby. 1036 00:41:56.900 --> 00:41:59.400 off to sleep so like really well like it was 1037 00:41:59.420 --> 00:42:01.599 just a thing like if she's struggling i used to 1038 00:42:01.619 --> 00:42:03.219 put her arm under there and i had this technique 1039 00:42:03.239 --> 00:42:04.800 and did that and i could get her asleep like 1040 00:42:04.860 --> 00:42:06.519 really quickly and it was actually a bit weird it 1041 00:42:06.559 --> 00:42:08.579 was like a superpower where i'd go i'll give it 1042 00:42:08.599 --> 00:42:10.659 to me bang asleep and i could never do it 1043 00:42:10.679 --> 00:42:12.829 with the first one i've never done it to have 1044 00:42:12.889 --> 00:42:15.110 another kid like but for this baby i could just 1045 00:42:15.130 --> 00:42:17.190 do that and then um i remember it was on 1046 00:42:17.210 --> 00:42:18.769 when i was in holiday with they had a nine 1047 00:42:18.809 --> 00:42:21.130 month old and i tried to do i was like 1048 00:42:21.769 --> 00:42:23.570 give her i'd get her to sleep thinking that i'll 1049 00:42:23.610 --> 00:42:27.170 still have the skills awful started crying kid I felt like, 1050 00:42:27.190 --> 00:42:29.489 you know, like an old boxer in the pub when 1051 00:42:29.510 --> 00:42:31.679 he's 50, he goes, let's go outside. He just gets 1052 00:42:31.760 --> 00:42:35.739 absolutely battered. This kid was like, I was scratching my face. 1053 00:42:35.900 --> 00:42:37.039 It was awful. 1054 00:42:37.179 --> 00:42:40.159 That change happened so quickly. I felt like, yeah, I 1055 00:42:40.179 --> 00:42:42.980 felt like I had these superpowers literally the same as 1056 00:42:43.019 --> 00:42:45.039 you to get Ada to go to sleep. I'd hold 1057 00:42:45.059 --> 00:42:47.940 her in a certain way and she's gone. I rock 1058 00:42:47.980 --> 00:42:50.670 her like four times and she's gone. Or like hum 1059 00:42:50.690 --> 00:42:54.409 some completely random made up tune and just like gently 1060 00:42:54.449 --> 00:42:57.679 and she's gone. And then suddenly, all these things just slightly, 1061 00:42:57.719 --> 00:43:01.420 as she wakes up and grows up and wakes up 1062 00:43:01.500 --> 00:43:05.260 to the world, every day a little bit more, my 1063 00:43:05.320 --> 00:43:07.389 powers just disappear. Yeah. 1064 00:43:07.670 --> 00:43:11.030 And soon, soon, mate, she'll be at university and she 1065 00:43:11.070 --> 00:43:11.809 won't even phone. 1066 00:43:11.849 --> 00:43:16.530 Josh, I love that you're saying that. You're not even 1067 00:43:16.590 --> 00:43:17.190 there yet. 1068 00:43:17.289 --> 00:43:25.130

LAUGHTER Well, I mean, my daughter's only six, but she 1069 00:43:25.150 --> 00:43:27.590 already writes notes saying, I don't like you, you make 1070 00:43:27.630 --> 00:43:28.690 me sad, and leave them. 1071 00:43:28.659 --> 00:43:31.480 On my pillow. Oh, how are you going to deal 1072 00:43:31.500 --> 00:43:31.730 with it? 1073 00:43:31.739 --> 00:43:33.320 Well, I find it quite funny. She's only doing it 1074 00:43:33.360 --> 00:43:34.119 for a reaction. 1075 00:43:34.159 --> 00:43:35.139 Oh, no, I meant James. 1076 00:43:35.179 --> 00:43:37.780 Oh, James, James. He can detect how weak I am 1077 00:43:37.800 --> 00:43:38.219 at this point. 1078 00:43:38.239 --> 00:43:41.139 How are you going to deal with that? You know 1079 00:43:41.199 --> 00:43:44.829 I don't give a fuck, Josh, about that. But no, 1080 00:43:44.949 --> 00:43:47.929 you are incredibly vulnerable when you've got your newborn because 1081 00:43:47.969 --> 00:43:50.630 it is so precious and they're so small. And you 1082 00:43:50.650 --> 00:43:52.530 have this huge... What it is, is this huge weight 1083 00:43:52.570 --> 00:43:55.269 of a responsibility of, I've got this now, I've got 1084 00:43:55.309 --> 00:43:56.809 to provide for this child, I've got to help this 1085 00:43:56.849 --> 00:43:59.679 child navigate through the world. But it's like anyone, that's 1086 00:43:59.699 --> 00:44:01.000 the first couple of weeks of a new job. 1087 00:44:01.079 --> 00:44:04.099 You are just excited to... say to like you know 1088 00:44:04.320 --> 00:44:06.199 calling around mates and saying look we've had a baby 1089 00:44:06.239 --> 00:44:08.179 and she's all well and everything lucy's well and everybody's 1090 00:44:08.219 --> 00:44:11.340 fine like that that is the first five days five 1091 00:44:11.400 --> 00:44:13.630 weeks even when you're going through all that mad sort 1092 00:44:13.650 --> 00:44:14.889 of you know no sleep and. 1093 00:44:14.869 --> 00:44:17.210 Everything yeah did you get annoyed with visitors was that 1094 00:44:17.230 --> 00:44:18.369 annoying loads of visitors. 1095 00:44:18.250 --> 00:44:21.210 Definitely it was it was like it was brilliant but 1096 00:44:21.289 --> 00:44:23.329 it's that thing of you say okay come around at 1097 00:44:23.389 --> 00:44:26.139 two and they're like sort of knocking on the door 1098 00:44:26.179 --> 00:44:31.030 about sort of 25 past two yeah A friend of ours, 1099 00:44:31.150 --> 00:44:32.969 a great old friend of ours the other day said 1100 00:44:33.409 --> 00:44:34.880 he was supposed to come out at two and he 1101 00:44:35.110 --> 00:44:37.719 actually had an emergency thing he had to deal with. 1102 00:44:37.960 --> 00:44:41.119 And then later, about 4.30, he said, I could still 1103 00:44:41.179 --> 00:44:46.829 come in. thinking about dinner and bed at five 30. Yeah. 1104 00:44:46.909 --> 00:44:50.030 I was like, I'm really sorry, man. But like our 1105 00:44:50.050 --> 00:44:53.219 day starts to wrap up quick. Yeah. Actually, that's a really, 1106 00:44:53.260 --> 00:44:54.760 that's a big thing. I think I've been starting to 1107 00:44:54.780 --> 00:44:56.800 think to myself lately, we're getting up at seven and 1108 00:44:57.079 --> 00:44:59.719 I'm thinking in 12 hours, we're literally shutting down and like, 1109 00:44:59.800 --> 00:45:00.539 everybody's going to bed. 1110 00:45:00.880 --> 00:45:03.099 Yeah, in lockdown, our kids were going to bed at 1111 00:45:03.159 --> 00:45:05.519 five o'clock at night because they were waking up at 1112 00:45:05.559 --> 00:45:08.019 five a.m. anyway. So we used to put them to 1113 00:45:08.039 --> 00:45:10.519 bed at five o'clock. They'd sleep 12 hours, wake up 1114 00:45:10.559 --> 00:45:13.139 at five. And then we just shifted back a few 1115 00:45:13.159 --> 00:45:14.880 hours because if you put them to bed late, they'd 1116 00:45:14.900 --> 00:45:16.320 always wake up at five. So then me and Lou 1117 00:45:16.340 --> 00:45:18.389 had a really long evening together, even though the days 1118 00:45:18.429 --> 00:45:20.469 were long. But yeah, people, when they come around and go, 1119 00:45:20.489 --> 00:45:22.730 I don't know why someone came around. We used to 1120 00:45:22.750 --> 00:45:25.329 have a parking permit and they came around at 10. 1121 00:45:25.309 --> 00:45:27.269 I went, oh yeah, I put two hours on the parking. 1122 00:45:27.789 --> 00:45:28.030 Why? 1123 00:45:28.050 --> 00:45:32.480 Why? Where are you going after this? You're going next 1124 00:45:32.500 --> 00:45:33.139 door for an hour. 1125 00:45:35.530 --> 00:45:36.809 What time are you going to bed, James? 1126 00:45:37.389 --> 00:45:41.250 We are like nine. What are you wearing? Sorry. 1127 00:45:43.090 --> 00:45:44.860 Don't say that out loud. 1128 00:45:44.880 --> 00:45:47.480 Just the silk gloves, Rob. Just a pair of silk gloves. 1129 00:45:48.539 --> 00:45:51.539 Yeah, we're going to bed at nine. I mean, I'm 1130 00:45:51.559 --> 00:45:53.519 just more than ever. I'm sort of at 8.30. I'm 1131 00:45:53.559 --> 00:45:56.909 like shattered half the time. And like, well, that's the 1132 00:45:56.929 --> 00:45:59.110 maddest thing about 9pm. And maybe it's the same for 1133 00:45:59.150 --> 00:46:00.969 you guys. That's stage time. Yeah. 1134 00:46:01.050 --> 00:46:03.710 I get a burst of energy about 10 o'clock at 1135 00:46:03.750 --> 00:46:06.389 night when I've normally finished my show. So I'll get 1136 00:46:06.449 --> 00:46:08.510 all tired about 7, 8 and then I'll watch a 1137 00:46:08.510 --> 00:46:11.429 bit of telly. Then I'm eyes wide awake at 10 1138 00:46:11.429 --> 00:46:11.820 at night. 1139 00:46:11.860 --> 00:46:14.119 The difference as well, like last night I was out 1140 00:46:14.139 --> 00:46:17.679 a bit later doing this music video and I got 1141 00:46:17.820 --> 00:46:22.260 home at about 9pm. And like pre-baby, I would have 1142 00:46:22.280 --> 00:46:24.519 got home at nine. We would have been texting as 1143

00:46:24.539 --> 00:46:25.659 I was on my way home about what we were 1144 00:46:25.679 --> 00:46:26.369 going to watch on TV. 1145 00:46:26.409 --> 00:46:26.849 Yeah. 1146 00:46:27.030 --> 00:46:28.710 Should we order something in, some food? 1147 00:46:28.769 --> 00:46:28.949 Yeah. 1148 00:46:29.090 --> 00:46:30.829 Get a bottle of red. Yeah. 1149 00:46:30.949 --> 00:46:33.030 It would always be like what dinner I can sort 1150 00:46:33.050 --> 00:46:35.489 of put together or whatever. And last night I got home, 1151 00:46:35.510 --> 00:46:37.230 had a bowl of porridge and went up. Yeah. 1152 00:46:38.699 --> 00:46:39.840 Who are you? The three bears? 1153 00:46:40.300 --> 00:46:41.099 Literally. 1154 00:46:41.179 --> 00:46:43.460 I was like, something that won't wake me up later 1155 00:46:43.480 --> 00:46:45.000 in the night. Something that will fill me up. I 1156 00:46:45.019 --> 00:46:46.539 can put it together quick when I get in. 1157 00:46:46.880 --> 00:46:48.769 Rock and roll isn't where it used to be, is it? 1158 00:46:48.820 --> 00:46:52.349 Josh, mate, it's not. Weirdly, I suppose it's like, once 1159 00:46:52.389 --> 00:46:55.010 you accept it, it's all very welcome. It's not rock 1160 00:46:55.030 --> 00:46:55.630 and roll to say it. 1161 00:46:55.769 --> 00:46:58.639 No, but yeah, totally. It's about going, this is me now. 1162 00:46:58.739 --> 00:47:01.780 Yeah, absolutely. And like... so many mates of mine that 1163 00:47:01.800 --> 00:47:03.260 have got, I've got a good few mates who've got 1164 00:47:03.280 --> 00:47:05.599 like a two-year-old, three-year-old and they're like, that first year 1165 00:47:05.659 --> 00:47:07.840 is crazy. Just get your head down. Get your head 1166 00:47:07.860 --> 00:47:09.440 down literally and just sort of get your head down 1167 00:47:09.460 --> 00:47:10.920 and sort of get through it. But, and it's got, 1168 00:47:10.940 --> 00:47:14.050 don't get me wrong also, like, again, all the cliches 1169 00:47:14.110 --> 00:47:16.420 are true. I can't deal with just, I just look 1170 00:47:16.440 --> 00:47:18.179 at her and I see a bit of Lucy and 1171 00:47:18.199 --> 00:47:19.239 I see a bit of me and I see all 1172 00:47:19.300 --> 00:47:21.400 of Ada, all myself. And it just, all of it 1173 00:47:21.440 --> 00:47:22.079 melts my heart. 1174 00:47:22.280 --> 00:47:24.039 It's so funny. I like, cause we've had a few 1175 00:47:24.059 --> 00:47:28.070 musicians on and stuff, like how musicians and artists are so, 1176 00:47:28.150 --> 00:47:31.469 so deep and deep thinking and comedians, just such horrible 1177 00:47:31.489 --> 00:47:32.309 little bastards. 1178 00:47:32.650 --> 00:47:33.329 We're horrible. 1179 00:47:33.349 --> 00:47:37.329 Yeah. I mean, there's such a deeper sort of like, 1180 00:47:37.349 --> 00:47:40.869 I don't know, purity to musicians I find sometimes. It's 1181 00:47:40.889 --> 00:47:42.679 so sweet. I think it's sweet as well to, you know, 1182 00:47:42.719 --> 00:47:46.360 you don't normally hear dads traditionally being this sort of involved, 1183 00:47:46.460 --> 00:47:48.679 which is, I think, but most dads do feel like this, 1184 00:47:48.699 --> 00:47:50.800 but don't really express it. So it's good to be expressed. 1185 00:47:51.000 --> 00:47:53.119 Well, I can't help it in many respects, but, and 1186 00:47:53.139 --> 00:47:54.789 also don't get me wrong. So much of it sort 1187 00:47:54.809 --> 00:47:57.429 of completely like confuses me. Like there's all manner of 1188 00:47:57.449 --> 00:48:00.730 different things. Like I can't, still can't quite deal with 1189 00:48:00.769 --> 00:48:03.690 the fact that like I did genuinely, it sounds cliche 1190 00:48:03.730 --> 00:48:05.809 or stereotypical. I listened to a lot of music before 1191 00:48:05.829 --> 00:48:08.030 I had a baby. I was listening to different records. 1192 00:48:08.349 --> 00:48:10.630 Now all I've got is nursery rhymes in my head. Yeah. 1193 00:48:10.949 --> 00:48:13.829 Your Spotify wrapped is going to be an absolute disaster 1194 00:48:13.949 --> 00:48:14.550 at the end of the year. 1195 00:48:15.230 --> 00:48:19.590 I can't post that. And, and like things blow my mind. 1196 00:48:19.630 --> 00:48:22.329 Like she's got all sorts of different, like fun little 1197 00:48:22.349 --> 00:48:24.739 sort of chew toys and things. She just goes for 1198 00:48:24.760 --> 00:48:25.260 the label. 1199 00:48:25.440 --> 00:48:27.599 You know, the little black and white. 1200 00:48:27.440 --> 00:48:29.739 Label on the end of a soft toy that's just 1201 00:48:29.800 --> 00:48:32.619 as soft as the toy. And she's just desperate for that. 1202 00:48:32.639 --> 00:48:34.670 There's this whole, like, fluffy dragon. 1203 00:48:34.710 --> 00:48:36.730 Yeah, they don't like anything you think they're going to like. 1204 00:48:36.909 --> 00:48:37.110 No. 1205 00:48:37.210 --> 00:48:39.309 You know, they never like the cool sort of toy. 1206 00:48:39.349 --> 00:48:41.250 You know, there's people that are in, like, I hate plastic. 1207 00:48:41.269 --> 00:48:43.070 I'd only get wooden toys for my kid. Fair enough, 1208 00:48:43.090 --> 00:48:45.219 but a kid's going to hate all those toys. They 1209 00:48:45.260 --> 00:48:46.900 want some shiny, horrible plastic shit. 1210 00:48:47.340 --> 00:48:49.219 We always end on the same question, James, which I 1211 00:48:49.239 --> 00:48:50.699 think you're going to find a struggle. 1212 00:48:51.260 --> 00:48:52.599 You know I'm going to find it a struggle. 1213 00:48:53.500 --> 00:48:55.320 You're a fan of the podcast, so you know the question, 1214 00:48:55.340 --> 00:48:58.659 which is which thing that your partner does that you 1215 00:48:58.719 --> 00:49:01.159 haven't said to them that annoys you? 1216 00:49:01.760 --> 00:49:04.320 It's a difficult one because she does such a fantastic job. 1217 00:49:04.659 --> 00:49:06.849 But you've definitely thought about it and got one lined up. 1218 00:49:07.090

--> 00:49:09.869 He's got one lined up, Josh. Look at you. Hang on, 1219 00:49:09.889 --> 00:49:12.409 why have you got that notepad out? We only need one. 1220 00:49:14.329 --> 00:49:18.090 Put the whiteboard away. What's this big spider diagram? 1221 00:49:18.409 --> 00:49:20.460 There's a little one which is like, I think we 1222 00:49:20.500 --> 00:49:23.019 all wish that we all would sort of stop Googling 1223 00:49:23.079 --> 00:49:23.679 quite so much. 1224 00:49:24.159 --> 00:49:25.400 Yeah, Googling. 1225 00:49:25.840 --> 00:49:27.539 Have you tried Ask Jeeves? 1226 00:49:30.320 --> 00:49:34.920 Yeah. This hasn't actually happened for a while, but it 1227 00:49:35.059 --> 00:49:37.510 certainly has always sort of stuck in my mind. For 1228 00:49:37.550 --> 00:49:39.389 a time early on, Ada was in the bed with 1229 00:49:39.469 --> 00:49:42.289 us for like early on when she was little. And 1230 00:49:42.309 --> 00:49:44.130 we were sort of up every hour or whatever, every 1231 00:49:44.170 --> 00:49:47.219 other hour. And Lucy particularly, we were changing her and 1232 00:49:47.239 --> 00:49:51.099 Lucy was feeding her. And I remember if I like 1233 00:49:51.420 --> 00:49:53.699 changed her and then put Ada in the bed and 1234 00:49:53.900 --> 00:49:55.360 then I went to the toilet to sort of wash 1235 00:49:55.400 --> 00:49:58.679 my hands. I just, this always riled me. I would 1236 00:49:58.699 --> 00:50:00.480 come back in the bed and in the dark, Lucy 1237 00:50:00.500 --> 00:50:05.670 would go, do you wash your hands? I would say, yeah. 1238 00:50:06.519 --> 00:50:08.820 And there's a little silence and she'd go, with soap. 1239 00:50:09.179 --> 00:50:12.760 It was the. 1240 00:50:11.760 --> 00:50:15.320 Hard time thinking about Ada. Why do you think I am? 1241 00:50:15.800 --> 00:50:18.420 Yes, I have washed my hands. 1242 00:50:18.480 --> 00:50:19.550 Yeah, I've washed my hands with soap. 1243 00:50:20.570 --> 00:50:21.690 And he washed your hands. 1244 00:50:21.769 --> 00:50:23.789 No, I've wiped the shit out of my arse with 1245 00:50:23.809 --> 00:50:24.550 my bare hands. 1246 00:50:25.590 --> 00:50:27.610 So, yeah, no, it doesn't really happen anymore, but that 1247 00:50:27.650 --> 00:50:29.869 one did get me up. She's stopped now. She trusts me. 1248 00:50:30.150 --> 00:50:31.820 Oh, wait, I hope she listens to this and then 1249 00:50:31.960 --> 00:50:32.539 asks you again. 1250 00:50:32.599 --> 00:50:34.780 The thing is she will, but the fact is she will. 1251 00:50:34.800 --> 00:50:36.159 She's a massive fan as well of the podcast. 1252 00:50:36.179 --> 00:50:39.300 And also, if you do bump into James Bay in 1253 00:50:39.320 --> 00:50:41.389 the street or go to his gigs, please ask him 1254 00:50:41.409 --> 00:50:44.050 if he's washed his hands. And when he says yes, say, 1255 00:50:44.150 --> 00:50:47.750 with soap. If someone could hold a sign saying, have 1256 00:50:47.769 --> 00:50:49.489 you washed your hands, that

is next gig. 1257 00:50:49.530 --> 00:50:53.019 You've done it now. It's done. It's happening. Lads, this 1258 00:50:53.099 --> 00:50:55.380 is genuinely, though, can I just say, for me and Lucy, 1259 00:50:55.400 --> 00:50:58.420 and obviously for so many parents, your podcast is incredible 1260 00:50:58.539 --> 00:50:59.679 and helpful and brilliant. 1261 00:50:59.880 --> 00:51:00.519 Oh, thank you. 1262 00:51:00.599 --> 00:51:01.300 Oh, thanks, mate. 1263 00:51:01.469 --> 00:51:04.250 I'd have to dispute helpful, but I'll accept the other one. 1264 00:51:05.500 --> 00:51:07.159 I mean, you've been brilliant. Thanks for coming on. It's 1265 00:51:07.179 --> 00:51:08.639 just so good as well, listening to people that have 1266 00:51:08.659 --> 00:51:11.090 got the newborn babies because it is such a mad 1267 00:51:11.369 --> 00:51:13.409 life experience at that point. And also, have you got 1268 00:51:13.449 --> 00:51:15.530 your new album and stuff like that? Let's plug that. Look, 1269 00:51:15.769 --> 00:51:18.210 you're too pure. You've not even mentioned your plug-in. 1270 00:51:18.289 --> 00:51:18.789 We didn't. 1271 00:51:19.130 --> 00:51:21.070 Because we were meant to have you on before, which 1272 00:51:21.130 --> 00:51:23.300 was just before the single came out, right? 1273 00:51:23.340 --> 00:51:25.579 Lads, I sent you the song and then we cancelled 1274 00:51:25.599 --> 00:51:26.780 the podcast. I know. 1275 00:51:26.960 --> 00:51:30.400 Yeah, that was awkward. But my wife did have appendicitis. 1276 00:51:30.639 --> 00:51:31.519 Is she all right? 1277 00:51:31.539 --> 00:51:33.199 Yeah, but she didn't have it until she listened to 1278 00:51:33.239 --> 00:51:35.559 the song, though. So I don't know if that's... give me. 1279 00:51:35.469 --> 00:51:39.110 The reason yeah that's the single at the moment there'll 1280 00:51:39.130 --> 00:51:40.869 be another one and then the album we haven't got 1281 00:51:40.889 --> 00:51:42.269 a date for the album but it's coming later in 1282 00:51:42.309 --> 00:51:44.929 the year and there's all sorts of touring I'm actually 1283 00:51:44.949 --> 00:51:47.710 just about to do like my first UK tour my 1284 00:51:47.730 --> 00:51:51.059 first tour with a band since 2019 oh wow but 1285 00:51:51.099 --> 00:51:53.860 yeah so all of that's happening music's happening but yeah 1286 00:51:54.079 --> 00:51:56.260 I'm trying to be a dad now as well it's mental. 1287 00:51:56.519 --> 00:51:58.380 Well you're doing a good job mate keep it up 1288 00:51:58.480 --> 00:51:58.880 thank you. 1289 00:51:58.800 --> 00:52:01.280 Guys cheers bro cheers James thanks mate bye. 1290 00:52:03.429 --> 00:52:05.969 James Bay, what a lovely bloke James Bay is. 1291 00:52:06.349 --> 00:52:08.309 Very nice man, Rob. 1292 00:52:08.889 --> 00:52:10.590 Oh, what, he loves his kid, doesn't he? Bless him. 1293 00:52:10.750 --> 00:52:12.239 Yeah, bless that, please. 1294 00:52:12.260 --> 00:52:15.519 Do you know what's funny was, normally I'm the one 1295 00:52:15.559 --> 00:52:18.199 people expect to wind someone up when I was saying, oh, what, 1296 00:52:18.219 --> 00:52:19.739 your kid can't walk yet? But then you went in 1297 00:52:19.840 --> 00:52:21.159 hard with the university stuff. 1298 00:52:21.179 --> 00:52:21.579 Yeah, I love it. 1299 00:52:21.579 --> 00:52:23.780 I think let's go in. Let's show him who's boss here. 1300 00:52:24.130 --> 00:52:25.670 This is pretty alpha podcast. 1301 00:52:25.829 --> 00:52:27.510 You two-footed James Bay. 1302 00:52:27.550 --> 00:52:30.869 It's very rare that I'm the alpha male of the group, Rob. 1303 00:52:30.909 --> 00:52:31.389 I enjoyed that. 1304 00:52:31.449 --> 00:52:31.710 It is. 1305 00:52:31.929 --> 00:52:33.769 Do you know what? I think that's the first time 1306 00:52:33.809 --> 00:52:34.730 I've seen you be alpha. 1307 00:52:35.010 --> 00:52:37.590 Thanks, mate. Went in studs up, early doors. 1308 00:52:37.610 --> 00:52:40.409 Balls out, squeezed his nuts, Gazza and Vinnie Jones. 1309 00:52:40.710 --> 00:52:42.429 Exactly. Rob, can I be honest? 1310 00:52:42.679 --> 00:52:42.800 Yeah. 1311 00:52:43.179 --> 00:52:44.940 Last ten minutes I've really needed a piss and I 1312 00:52:44.960 --> 00:52:46.539 still need it. Can I go to the toilet? 1313 00:52:46.900 --> 00:52:48.019 Yeah, go and have a piss. 1314 00:52:48.059 --> 00:52:48.800 I will wash my hands. 1315 00:52:48.840 --> 00:52:49.880 Yeah, wash your hands. With soap? 1316 00:52:50.099 --> 00:52:50.579 With soap. 1317 00:52:50.820 --> 00:52:52.960 Perfect. James Bay, everyone. What a lovely fella. Go and 1318 00:52:52.980 --> 00:52:54.840 see him on tour and listen to his new song. 1319 00:52:54.880 --> 00:52:55.199 Cheers. Bye. 1320 00:52:55.380 --> 00:52:55.579 Bye.