Full Transcript for Dorell Wright | NBA Champion, The TRUTH on Miami Heat Culture, Watching Young Steph and Dame

lot in you did you get recruited for baseball in college? 00:05:26 Speaker 3: Is like, yeah, I was getting recruited at the you know a lot of basketball coaches, like, for instance, Henry Bibby, you know he was at USC, and that was that pitch, you know, when I was getting better in basketball, like you could come here and play both sports. And my dad wanted me to go to USC so bad, and I was just off that. You know, Uh, I'm an inner city kid. I was trying to get the hell up out of there. I didn't want to be in l a And we all know USC is still in the hood, you know what I'm saying. 00:05:51 Speaker 4: Uh. 00:05:51 Speaker 3: So it was a few coaches that you know, recruit me in baseball, but it was more major league scouts that you know, that I would talk to or hear from. 00:06:01 Speaker 1: Killer. Tell me how you ended up at Washington Prep and then later ended up at the lazingeringer shout out to losinger. 00:06:10 Speaker 4: Man, I don't get you off. Yeah, it's all good. 00:06:13 Speaker 3: But I got to the prep because you know, I did horrible my eighth grade year, so I was supposed to go to Palisades in the Palisades and played all three sports because I played a little bit of football as well. But my mom and dad just didn't trust me, so they sent me to the local high school, and uh, we were terrible in baseball, and my dad was like, we got to make an adjustment. So that's how I ended up at losinger. Shout out to Joe Romero, who basically picked me up and you know, dropped me off every single day. You know that village we talked about, so he was responsible for me to get the losinger. First day of school, he like, man, you want to meet the basketball coach. I'm like, no, I came here to play play baseball. I'm not really tripping meet the basketball coach. Basketball coach tell me to come to open gym. I killed everybody in the gym out. Now I'm on the basketball team. And that was my eleventh grade year once I got the losinger. So that's how I got from Washington to losing because of the baseball team was so bad. 00:07:06 Speaker 1: It's on the face that it's interesting, bro, you just you kind of fuck me over playing baseball. 00:07:14 Speaker 4: Man. 00:07:15 Speaker 1: Was anybody saying at the time, like, yo, the baseball players got, they get longer deals, more they like, they get the most money. 00:07:22 Speaker 4: And you want to know who it was? 00:07:23 Speaker 1: My dad. Yeah. 00:07:25 Speaker 3: A lot of people don't even know this, but a lot of inner city, inner city guys in African Americans they played baseball back in the day. It wasn't really basketball. It was either football or baseball. So my dad wanted me to be a baseball player that bad where he always brought up longevity. You know, you could play it well up in your thirties and you know, still play and make a lot of money. 00:07:46 Speaker 4: I just at that point I was I was over it. 00:07:49 Speaker 3: So my dad was the one that always you being the longevity of the game

and just. 00:07:53 Speaker 4: Playing for a long time. 00:07:55 Speaker 1: It was crazy because now you look at the league now it's predominantly ran Bad what I say, Latins, Yeah, yeah, Venezuelan's uh, Dominicans Cubans playing you know what I'm saying. Yeah, And it's like, damn, they don't realize that that game it changed. They took it, they took it, they came to go. They did. They did. Man, but it's expensive. It's an expensive sport. 00:08:21 Speaker 3: And I feel like if you think about all the sports the cheapest sport to play is basketball. You know you all you need is a basketball to get better. 00:08:27 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. You go to a park. 00:08:29 Speaker 3: You can do this. You don't really need a trainer. You got YouTube now that could teach guys. So I think the game of baseball has gotten expensive for the inner city kids. 00:08:37 Speaker 4: And you know, we. 00:08:38 Speaker 3: All locking in on one sport now, we ain't playing three sports to see what we're really good at. Talking about your time is South Kent, oh Man. South Kent changed my life. 00:08:47 Speaker 4: That was different. 00:08:48 Speaker 1: Man. 00:08:48 Speaker 3: Just imagine being in the inner city and then they place you in the middle of nowhere and you don't hear them sirens, You don't hear you know, those same activities every single night. It's just nothing, you know here running around everywhere. And it was a It was definitely a culture shock for me. Uh but it was the best thing for me because I learned how to work. My guy, Jack McClinton, and I give him a lot of love. He knew how to work at a young age, so he always brought me in the gym with him. Even though you know a lot of people knew. Once I went to South Kenny, it was potential. It was, you know a lot of potential there for me to take that leap. But I still wasn't buying into it. 00:09:24 Speaker 1: You know. 00:09:24 Speaker 3: I was like, I'm going to college and you know, I was kind of trying to stand on the right path. But he taught me how to work, and then the competition we played, you know, made me a better basketball player. 00:09:34 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. He was in some bump with like, because I mean, for you to make that jump, it's like, damn, you got you just said trail of them and your homeboys. They've been going to audit these Nike camps and it's like your as been got them swinging exactly catching baseball yep. So to get to that point, it is like, yeah, Trail, those were definitely my competition, especially Trevor. 00:09:54 Speaker 4: You know, you look at Trail. We looked the same. 00:09:56 Speaker 3: So we've always be and Trevor actually met at football. 00:10:00 Speaker 4: We played same football league. 00:10:01 Speaker 3: So that's how me and trev connected when we were like eleven ten years old. And then you know the pickups and open gym and all that, that's when you always matched up against each other. So it was either Trevor d White, but Trev was way better than me, just skill. 00:10:14 Speaker 4: Set and all that stuff. 00:10:15 Speaker 3: So I was always chasing Trev, you know, just to get you know, more skill and uh, you know. 00:10:21 Speaker 1: Just know the game. 00:10:22 Speaker 4: And IQ I was. 00:10:23 Speaker 1: I was just raw and just athletic, you know, and just played hard. That's what's saying. I played hard. So once I. 00:10:29 Speaker 3: Got to South kentp Man, my AU coach told me, he said, if you could go to the East Coast and you could do what you did on the West Coast, you to the league. So that was my mindset going there, like, you know, if I could kill, I got a chance. But Eric Harden facts and I told my parents that, like, man, he said, if I go out there and kill, I could go to the league next year. My mom and dad was like, man, stop listening to that bullshit. 00:10:58 Speaker 4: He lies. 00:11:00 Speaker 1: They killed me all right there. Yeah. Yeah, they didn't know nothing about the out of high school. 00:11:05 Speaker 3: They was like, man, I don't know about all that. So that's how I got to South Kent Man. 00:11:09 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a fast I recruit bro coming out of you know what I'm saying. Yeah, high schools. It was like that that noise of duke, that noise of like, you know what I'm saying, the schools that we look up today like I got to go there because such and such with no doubt. It wasn't never a school or college was like damn, I think I'll fit. Nah. 00:11:29 Speaker 4: I never looked at it like that. 00:11:30 Speaker 3: I was just blessed with the opportunity that all these colleges was recruiting me. I was just telling you. I was just having a conversation with my little bro. I said, I got my first letter from Texas Tech and Bobby Knight was there. 00:11:40 Speaker 4: I was like, I'm going to text my first letter. I'm like, I'm going. 00:11:45 Speaker 3: I was so happy to get a letter and I was like, I'm going. So it was never one of those, you know, schools like I looked up to. 00:11:52 Speaker 1: I just wanted to go and hoop. To be honest with you, I want to ask you this, bro Ca. We was off camera, was talking bro and I know he was talking about Popsid. How is it now being in that position that your son hoo and things that they just It's crazy because I have struggled with this being the dad and the coach, and you actually made it pro and your dad was actually playing the instrumental part of your life, no doubt. How were you able to navigate through that? 00:12:19 Speaker 3: That's a great question, man, because we struggled with this a lot. I took over my son's team in the sixth grade, so I've been coaching my son since the sixth grade. I coached some of the best players that's right now in high school of Brandon McCoy's for you know, number two, top ten in the country, you know what I mean. So I had guys like that playing for my team. So it took my son a long time to get on the court because he wasn't. 00:12:43 Speaker 4: As good

as those guys. 00:12:44 Speaker 3: And you know, he didn't understand why my dad not really playing me like that. But it was all the things I was trying to install in him, you know, creating a. 00:12:52 Speaker 4: Little bit of adversity for my son. 00:12:53 Speaker 3: Because everything now for kids is sweet, you know, they just sweet, just jolly on up through it, you know what I mean. You know, every time something happened, apparent gonna catch him. So you know, my kid went through a little bit of adversity. I was his trainer as well, so we used to bump heads in that and then you got to hear me all the way home. So I think it really took my kid a long time to realize that we were all on the same team, and I just wanted the best for him. And I also always told him, you told me you want to be an NBA player, right, So I'm gonna hold you accountable to that. So I'm gonna tell you when you're doing bs, and I'm gonna applaud you when you're doing well. 00:13:27 Speaker 4: But it's always work to be done. 00:13:29 Speaker 3: So it's been pretty cool over the last couple of months to see my kid really take that stride where he's making himself a player. But I just think about all those you know, long hours in the gym of him crying and you know, ready to leave when I was getting on him. 00:13:45 Speaker 4: That is finally paying off. So same thing me and my dad went through. 00:13:48 Speaker 3: I bumped said, so everything come full circle and the fa My favorite thing is when I tell my dad something, he always looking at it. 00:13:56 Speaker 1: He'd be like, damn, that shit sound familiar. 00:13:58 Speaker 3: Don't He's like, then, this sounds so familiar. So it's been cool to watch my kids. 00:14:05 Speaker 1: Hell yeah, that's what it's all about. 00:14:07 Speaker 4: Man. 00:14:07 Speaker 1: What's good. Family. Been really excited to bring you our newest partner on Out the Mud. You know we've been rocket with the sports books and different partners, but this one hits a little different. No for real, boat, it hits a little different, No for sure, coo on. You know when it comes to the sticky yicky, we don't play. Let's get right to it. Our newest partner and member of the family is mellow Fella. They got some gas for all the spinners, Edible Celsius, one hitter's pre rolls. It's all up. 00:14:36 Speaker 5: Even if you ain't in the THC. They got CVD products that will get you right. All products are pharmaceutical third party testing. Ain't no food gazzing from Melo Felas. 00:14:47 Speaker 1: It's the highest quality and full transparency, so you know what you're getting. These little bapes and spinners make it quick and easy when you want to go, and they poll them too. I can't even front lord t offers and it comes directly to your door, Easy car Home Team. I took the link in the bio and use promo cole Mud for twenty percent off what we're talking about Out the Mud and Mellow Fellow. Ye did twenty percent off Promo cole Mud say less. So meanwhile, back

back back to the journey, man, I just want to know, like that it was league time. It's like, okay, everybody in your in now they're saying you going in high school. It's two thousand and four. It's a lot of hitters coming out there ready, just jumping up, get cast like Tony Ben Gordon in that joints like Andre you Dollar, the White Howard, Josh Smith, dogs Man. But I think that year though, I think y'all we had a lot of talent that a lot of draft could be really compared to. But I just tell me, what what's you think of going? Bro? 00:16:01 Speaker 3: I was excited so, like I told you, my AU coach told me, if I go, kill is up. So first game thirty, next game thirty, I'm like, oh damn, he might he might have been onto something. So to be honest with you, I just played, you know, just. 00:16:15 Speaker 4: To get better. 00:16:16 Speaker 3: You know, I worked on my game extremely hard. I was always in a gym, and I felt like I was ready to go. Didn't know. I didn't know a lot of people too, Bro. I didn't watch basketball like that, so I didn't know a lot of players. So as I did the pre draft. That's when I was learning about guys and finding out who this guy is, who this guy is. So it was really just adrenaline and just excitement, man, just being a young eighteen year old kid having an opportunity to accomplish a goal and a dream over the last couple of years to be a professional. So I went out and jumping in waters and my mom and dad was like, bro, the only reason, I mean, the only way you're going to be able to stay in the draft. Somebody got to guarantee you to be a first round pick. So I give a lot of credit to, you know, somebody like Sonny Baccero for being an advisor for me and my family. Yeah, he brought us in and showed his love from day one, and uh he basically advised my family and gave him as security to let them know, like yo, you know he's gonna be good ready. So I had no idea about the sharks that was out there, and I got an amazing story I cannot wait to tell the first time when I. 00:17:21 Speaker 1: Met t A. Because to your credit, where you start, I can't front. When I looked at the thing that manager, I think it's looking when there is Josh Smith, Trevor Reason, the real right, Tony out. That's the line up. Man, were in there like some dogs. Now, man, I'm looking at these cats like out of high school facts he left the final fault. I'm looking for Ben Going and Doll I'm looking for a Yeah. But they would come to my workouts facts, and so at that time, I'm pretty sure you were seeing like, okay, cats not come to workouts when you dominate. And then word trap. No, most definitely, So what was it Atlanta? That was Atlanta? Dude? 00:18:17 Speaker 3: This is the first time on all those workouts, I knew I forget who the mutual friend was, but I knew somebody else that was there. So all the guys that was working out the next day. 00:18:26 Speaker 4: Was in the room together. 00:18:26 Speaker 3: We chilling fellowship, and I introduced myself to Ta. You know, I'm from the West. Nobody really know who I am, So I tell him d Wright or do I know what I said. Maybe an hour and a half went by and somebody said d Right, and it just struck something to Ta. 00:18:40 Speaker 4: He was like, wait, you Dorel Right. 00:18:42 Speaker 3: You you know you straight out of high school because he knew me coming to the shop, because I committed to the ball, but after an hour and a half he finally put it together like, Okay, this is the dude that's going to the ball, right. So that's when t A and I first met, and I never forget that. We get to the workout the next day, couldn't do nothing with him. Caln't do nothing with him, and it really made myself And was Andre Emming in that workout as well. He was a few of our workouts, But I remember having to deal with t A and I was just like, I might have to reconsider if I'm if I'm really gonna do this dog because. 00:19:20 Speaker 4: I couldn't do nothing with t A. 00:19:22 Speaker 1: I know I'm not gonna be able to do nothing with them, with the with the grown men. 00:19:26 Speaker 3: So I'll never forget that man being, you know, fellowshipping for about an hour and a half and t A realizing who I was, and you know, that ship was funny like them I've been in here this whole time. 00:19:36 Speaker 1: And he knew who the hell I was. And I'm saying coming out of high school too, tho, it's like, man, damn, like these cats really making that jump and you get through these drills and what was surprising about these drills. Bro. They had you probably go get a lob and you probably had to do a little player. You've got to make a move, and when the motherfuckers come out, they spind they jumping some motherfuck they looking over the real boom boom, and then mother fucker's I'm like, all right, I see how I'm defend them off the rip. I gotta be physical, and that's what it was for me. Killer. So if you was thinking I was hacking or doing was trying to stop you from jumping over my head, Man, you gotta realize T A two, he's sneaky. He had dunk you off that one leg. You know what I'm saying. You be pushing them right here so that I remember vividly, and I was like I told my age and I say, man, they got some young boys that's crying out the draft. All right, Yeah, you can't one like that. Neither that being how you made it to the league. You was a lot of knockdown three point ship when I was playing this nigga act like Covid Yeah, like he's doing fade away shakes and shot all that ship, Like give me that ship. Yeah, that's get me but it was cold O that even had it like this and endurance to be doing that. Ship. I was like, damn, yeah, I see why you came out. But man, back to the journey man. So getting getting drafted is a process itself. Just tell me, like, how many teams you worked out with. 00:20:58 Speaker 4: You, Bro? I did it? 00:20:59 Speaker 3: Probably record, I did twenty seven workouts. Whoa, I did twenty seven workouts. And then mind you, I didn't hire

agent because my parents are just nervous. So the guy that was booking my workouts had me going to the east, back to the west, midwest, west east, and then I remember Sonny like, bro, who is doing this to you? Like it was just so draining, But I was so excited because once again I'm eighteen years old. So I did twenty seven workouts, Bro. I did three for the Celtics, and I did three for the Heat and the League. 00:21:29 Speaker 1: Damn right, And I did it three times for that. So you got coach O'Brian. 00:21:33 Speaker 4: Yep, Coach O. 00:21:34 Speaker 1: That was my hardest workout all my workouts was Boston coach run talk about that running the pull ups they had you in the weight room. You know, I can't do nothing, none of that none of that, dog. 00:21:47 Speaker 3: So those are my Those are my uh, you know, hardest ones, those three with Miami and three with Boston. 00:21:54 Speaker 4: Tough man, Man, that shit was difficult, dog. 00:21:58 Speaker 1: But shit, you got to Miami draft night. I'm saying, how did that process? Man? That one cool man? 00:22:05 Speaker 3: You know, when my parents finally found comfortable and they got that security, like, yo, he gonna be a first round pick. I told moms like, now we got to have a draft party. She didn't know what a draft party was. Told her, go get some chickens from Albersons. You know, anybody know about chicken from Alberson's. That shit fire, Yeah, get some chickens from chicken from Alberson's. And then you make all the sides and I'm gonna have all my friends here. So man, I had a house full of people, dude, some of my closest friends, my loved ones that basically was my village and saw me in my journey. 00:22:35 Speaker 4: So draft night was special for me, man. 00:22:37 Speaker 3: And I'll never forget this too, man, because it pissed me off. 00:22:41 Speaker 4: The line. 00:22:42 Speaker 3: The line is six years younger than me, so he running back and forth, you know, after every single pick, being that annoying brother. 00:22:48 Speaker 1: Why you didn't get your name called yet? Why pick you yet? And you know another So I remember like telling my mom, like, mom, can you. 00:22:55 Speaker 3: Come and get the line and tell him get the hell out of my face. But every time somebody was picked, know, he'll run like, no, I ain't call your name yet. You know what I'm saying. So I had to deal with my little brother being annoying. But then when my name did call, was one of the best feelings ever. Dude, felt like the house is shap felt good. It was at great experience when I'm glad I was able to be at home too. I know, going to the draft is cool, but it's nothing like being around your people. 00:23:19 Speaker 1: Did you get invited to the draft? 00:23:20 Speaker 3: No, I didn't get invited you No, man, nobody knew who I was. I was like, you stay at the crib, That's what I did. I stayed the crib. Yeah, stayed the story counter similar. 00:23:30 Speaker 1: Yeah, man, man, I don't need to be at the green room. But I would have loved to been selected though, for sure. 00:23:41 Speaker 4: Yeah. 00:23:42 Speaker 1: Meanwhile, so then that he coaches obviously one of those coaches where you know you go there's like, man, you got to be in shape. Pat Rally is a no nonsense guy. The non negotiable was you got to be in shape. Yeah, gotta be in shape. 00:23:55 Speaker 3: Everything is about the numbers of roles, you know, with the body fat, with your weight. You know, if you feel like you at these certain numbers, you're gonna be able to get the most. 00:24:03 Speaker 4: Out of your body. 00:24:04 Speaker 3: And when you're in it it sound dumb, you know, and me being that that was the one place I was at for a long time, a lot of vetch. 00:24:12 Speaker 1: She's be like, bro, this ain't the real NBA. You know, it ain't like this everywhere else. 00:24:16 Speaker 3: But I felt like it was cool because it was some structure and Pat really gave me that vibe of how my dad was, you know, these days in the backyard. So nothing was never difficult for me, you know what I'm saying. It was just always you know, work, work, work, So I was okay with adapting to that. I wanted to play those first two years, but you know, it was all about player development, so it was difficult. You hear about, you know them heat culture stories, all that shit. Real true Motheruck's throwing up. 00:24:43 Speaker 1: And doing all Yeah, yeah, he gonna get the best out of. 00:24:46 Speaker 4: You every single day. 00:24:47 Speaker 1: That's dope, because when you look at Miami, you figure, like, damn, going to Miami, it's lit. Yes, that might be the biggest distraction that you had to disciplay yourself on. But for yourself, he was young s out of high school, how did you stay grounded and stay focused on the making the main thing the main thing all the way through? 00:25:06 Speaker 3: To be honest with y'all, bro, they worked us so hard we had no time for none of that stuff. Man Like, Yeah, we really didn't take advantage of you know, South Beach like that because we were so tired from the workout and the work that we was putting in where that felt like a vacation when we went to the beach, like oh, like you could let your hair down for a day or two, but it was all about work. 00:25:25 Speaker 1: It can, you know, swallow you up. 00:25:27 Speaker 3: I've seen it happen, you know, with teammates coming in town and you know, thinking it's sweet and trying to you can't party and hang out in Miami and think you're gonna be able to go through Pats you know his program basically. So I've seen a lot of guys get swallowed up in that long night. 00:25:42 Speaker 4: Yeah, some long nights. 00:25:43 Speaker 3: So I have my time though, where Pat called me in the office and he like, Bro, you under age, Bro, you need to go to University of Miami hang out with people at your age. And I'm like, Pat, my best friend is Jack McClinton. I'm at University of Miami too, so I'm. 00:25:57 Speaker 1:

Hitting um and I'm on South Beach, so I'm covering all grounds. Yeah, I wasn't coming in with the vests. Did they give you that real rookie treatment? 00:26:09 Speaker 3: I got blessed? My o G was Eddie Jones. Eddie Jones Man. 00:26:14 Speaker 1: He one of the best dude, one of the funniest guys ever. 00:26:17 Speaker 4: You played with Eddie right, and they played against them? 00:26:20 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, okay, but Eddie from day one just took me under his wing. 00:26:24 Speaker 1: Man. 00:26:24 Speaker 3: He's seen a lot in me, and he gave me a hard time, but in a respectful way, you know what I'm saying. Just always on me, Uh, just making sure I was a professional, dressed a certain way, you know, always kept a haircut. Because you've ever seen Eddie. Always gonna be clean, It's gonna be right, you know what I mean. So, uh, my funny story with Eddie is. He gave me three linen suits when I first got drafted, and I didn't know nothing about lenen. So I'm wearing linen in Chicago, I'm. 00:26:51 Speaker 1: Wearing linen and Milwaukee everywhere. And it was it was like a walker the walkers us aware with the donald Pliners. 00:27:00 Speaker 3: You remember them, right, So I never forget. We're in the huddle. It's the middle of the game. Eddie on the bench drinking some gatorade. 00:27:07 Speaker 4: He bring me in. 00:27:08 Speaker 3: I'm thinking about to school me on some like you know, you've seen that, he said, young fella, if you wear that one more time, I'm gonna hang that motherfucker up there with MJ. 00:27:16 Speaker 1: And now it was the. 00:27:17 Speaker 3: Last time he said, but I'm tired of seeing that. I'm tired of seeing that dog. So I had to deal with Eddie getting on me about, you know, little things throughout my rookie year. So he made my rookie duties real lights. Let's get let's give our og some props to U. 00:27:36 Speaker 4: D Man. 00:27:37 Speaker 1: Yes, you got to chance to play with you, d Man. Talk about you know some stories with ud Man. Yeah, man, you de fit in the same category with y'all. You know what I'm saying, like, ain't too many dudes that's tough and go got respect and know not the funck with y'all. 00:27:52 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. No, that's the type. 00:27:54 Speaker 3: Of energy you d bring. But it's all positive though. He's one of the best teammates I ever had. Uh, another dude that took me under his wing and showed me Miami, you know, showed me the places I can and can't go, you know, but just loyalty. You know, it's with rings when when I hear your d name, man, and just the things he did for the city of Miami, Daye County still doing to this day, man, and also just giving back to these young guys and helping them pave their career for you know, being an undrafted guy and you know having to go to Europe and just really fighting. 00:28:26 Speaker 4: Man. So I got a lot of respect for you, d. 00:28:28 Speaker 3: Man, and one of them dudes that I'll go to battle with any time, because you know,

he gonna run through a wall for you. You know, you got your back. It ain't too many guys in the league like that. We all know that, Yeah, it ain't. And he's just being at Miami. He coached bro, I'm thinking. 00:28:42 Speaker 1: Back, like, man, you flash you Yeah, you had some nice teammates moving on in two thousand and six, though y'all ended up winning this chip yeap, it was crazy talk like yo, m like like what was that? What was that experience? Like like seeing how you prepare and seeing the paying attention of detail able to practice. 00:29:01 Speaker 4: Now they don't practice. Yeah, they don't do no practice. 00:29:03 Speaker 1: What's that? But I'm saying, well, we used to guys like us off we from we bad game, we lose all. We got to get back here. 00:29:11 Speaker 3: Rhythm you know, was rhythm us about lighting us on how that was going throughout that year. Man, that's probably one of the hardest things that we I've ever been around. You know, just the details, Like you said, if anybody know about Miami, you know every playoffs here, you're getting a book this big everybody you know what the dude that your guarding ate last week and you need you needed to know all that information because it was always a pop quiz Okay the guards over here, wings up here, bigs, what does Tony Allen do? 00:29:39 Speaker 4: What is z BO doing? 00:29:40 Speaker 3: You got to be able to recite what exactly that say on that Scoletar report. So they always stayed on top of us with studying and watching film, sending us home with stuff. 00:29:49 Speaker 4: It was always homework. 00:29:50 Speaker 3: So I felt like once we got to the finals, we were the best prepared team than anybody. And uh, just to see uh those vets be able to you know, host that trophy at the end. You just never realize how important that was to them because it's so difficult to win a championship every single year in the NBA. So I was able to see Alonzo morning, Gary Payton shot get another one, d Wade become flash you know U d you know, having this great story of Garding dirt man. So it felt good that I was able to be a part of that. Didn't clock no minutes, but you know what I have to do in practice, being Josh Howard, being Marque. 00:30:26 Speaker 1: That's all hard. Being the part of piece of the post. I was the same way in two thousand and eight, Like I didn't play many minutes, but the experience and he understanding if I go anywhere else, I could I could point out what ain't right man, for real. I'm talking about from got damn and the omelet cooked on the on them up the chef. Ain't you see what I'm saying? And when you when you were around it both, I'm telling you, boy, it's like, man, you're gonna point it out, like, come on and pay attention. Bro. So that's why I want to ask that because you finished category too. I was asked, d So when you win championships Earland you professional listen, how does that shape you? Like? He said he can go anywhere. He came to Memphish look boom, boom boom. That's how we do it and change you know, some of our ways to approach you different. 00:31:11 Speaker 4: Yeah, that championship take you a long way. 00:31:13 Speaker 3: You know why every team I went to after I left Miami after those six years a head coach, Keith Smart, Mark Jackson, Terry Stotts, they always told me beginning the playoff, I want you to bring your ring in. I want you to tell the guys how hard and difficult it was to get that ring. So I always found myself talking to my teammates and showing them and telling them my experience of how difficult it was for us to win. You know, how locked in you got to be in every single day, and you know, taking the studying series and knowing your scouring report and knowing the guy guard. 00:31:44 Speaker 1: That part is key. And it don't matter. It don't matter like like you, whether whether you played or whatever, you play whatever we ain't. We ain't pinpointing out. What I'm seeing is that education that you're getting on how to prepare to get to that land because a lot of players ain't never got there, you know what I'm saying. So when you get there, you it's just man, when you come to the next season, it's like, man, this is what this is how we got to be down then, yeah, this is this is meaningful basketball I'm playing for this year. That's how you got to lock that in. And championship organizations they demand it from day one. They one day one, bro, this night and day when you look at it, But you was a part of it. Like you said, you saw some ogs get up out of there, like like Gary Payton got out of that's my og, my rookie. You know that your guy for sure. And uh, I see my boy Twine. Man, you had a lot of my brothers over there with another guy got. 00:32:42 Speaker 4: Yeah, man, pose is my guy. Man. 00:32:44 Speaker 3: It was just great learning from them dudes, man, And I was able to bottle all that stuff up. You know, those loans speeches of Zoel, you know, strong ass flexing and. 00:32:52 Speaker 4: Spitting all over the place. 00:32:54 Speaker 3: That was recycled bars for me when I went to other teams, you know, all the knowledge he had and just hearing him because he was serious, like he was cussing d Wade out, Hey, man, don't mess us up, you know, d Wade, don't be a don't mess us up. It's my championship, young fellas, so we need to get this done. So it was it was amazing just to learn from all those guys while we on that. 00:33:12 Speaker 1: You know, a lot of it's were missing that in a lot of these locker rooms now with the league getting so young, like, and it's crazy speaking highly of these guys and how helpful they was throughout the years. It's like, man, damn, I wonder if they're gonna bring that back just to just keep the locker rooms man like I. 00:33:27 Speaker 3: Wouldn't have been I wouldn't be able to sit right here if I didn't have those vets, you know, to show me the way, you know, Eddie Eddie Jones teaching me how to dress, you know, uh, d Wade showing

me you know, how to be a top player in you know, do all these things off the court. I learned just so much from these guys, you know, starting a foundation, you know, giving back to my community. I learned just so much where it's like, dude, like I got to use this information and it was my duty to pass that on. So when I play with the young Steff, when I play with a young dame, a young CJ. 00:33:57 Speaker 4: McCullum. 00:33:59 Speaker 3: Uh, you know, all these dudes, Lay Thompson, these dudes thank me every single day they see me like this, my veatman, you taught me so much and that means something to me because the people that was before me taught me something. I was able to pass the information off. And these dudes have these great careers that a lot of us didn't see. So I really really hope at some point we could get at least shoot spots on that on them teams where you got two vets that can kind of help these young guys get be great. 00:34:25 Speaker 1: That's deep. That's deep. 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I always use those as an example because Zoe have ice packs all over the place, and I used to be like, oh gee, why you gotta all that ice on people like you're going one day it's gonna be you. You know, as soon as I'm done, I'm out, No treatment, no ice, no nothing work. 00:36:21 Speaker 4: Yeah. 00:36:21 Speaker 3: So you know, you just you prepare different. Your mindset shifts. You know the things that you did a lot, you know, you kind of weed that out and uh, you just got to be locked in and you gotta watch film. You gotta watch games the night before. You got to watch the film that the team sends you home with. So just my attention to detail change. To be honest with you, and then working smart, you know, getting my reps up, getting my shots. If if if I'm shooting five shots a game and you know, coach need me to make three of those, you know, if I'm not efficient. So just understanding, I gotta get hundreds of shots up every single day just to consistent with my five shots that I'm getting early on in my career. So, uh, definitely, the mind definitely had to shift and helped me become a pro. 00:37:09 Speaker 1: Went to a lot of rihysthms. You had already picked up, you know what I'm saying. So when did the business of basketball kicking for you? 00:37:16 Speaker 3: So when the business started for me is once I left Miami. So I was in Miami for six years. Now I get the Golden State. 00:37:23 Speaker 1: Was that Was that a bitter sweet feeling or was you ready for that moment? 00:37:26 Speaker 4: I was ready and it was bittersweet. 00:37:28 Speaker 3: You somewhere for six years, you think you're gonna be there your whole career, Like, man, it's Miami is good, Then I'm. 00:37:35 Speaker 1: In at eighteen nineteen. That's why I was a porler, gonna beland forever trading out sick. 00:37:41 Speaker 3: So you know, Braun came to Miami, so it was a business decision. So it was cool with me because it was like, now I'm able to spread my wings, you know. But once I got there, you know, that was my best year of my career. 00:37:54 Speaker 4: In twenty ten. 00:37:55 Speaker 3: It was just like, damn, I wish I was doing this in Miami, but I am happy that I'm. 00:37:59 Speaker 1: Here with a new start. 00:38:00 Speaker 3: So but to answer your question about the businesses, once I got to Golden State in twenty ten and I saw the work that Zoe and you Donna's did d Wade in the community, I started my foundation. I started doing things with inner city kids. I started doing things with single mothers and you know, just giving back to the less fortune. So that's kind of when I started, you know, my journey of you know, showing up for people and uh, you know, I got a great feeling after doing great things for people. Man, you know, not looking for no love. Is just was my doing to give back. So that's when things off the court started for me. 00:38:37 Speaker 1: You set the franchise record at one point with it a hundred and it was a one hundred and ninety four makesing three. 00:38:45 Speaker 3: That's a lot, man, And it was crazy because nobody knew me as I was just a slasher in Miami. You know, that's why

they used me three and D. You know, I make some some corner threes, but it's more athleticism. Yeah, watch your head getting behind the defense. 00:38:57 Speaker 4: And stuff like that. 00:38:58 Speaker 3: So I just put a lot of time in in that summertime just to you know, stretch my game out from the corner to the wing. So I'll never forget once I got to Miami. I mean to Golden State in there early with Monte, in there early with Steph and running with that starting group and Steph and Monte, like, Bro, if you could make that transition three or if you can make that three at a high high rate, we're gonna be fining. 00:39:20 Speaker 4: You, David Lee. 00:39:21 Speaker 3: So you know, they they gave me that confidence to shoot that thing, you know what I mean. 00:39:25 Speaker 1: Keith Smart gave me that confidence every night. It's Saint Miami no more. You say that right before the same Miami. Let them let them see everything. 00:39:32 Speaker 3: So I was able to, you know, shock a lot of people because people didn't know I had that in my game, if you didn't know me. So it felt good to you know, lead the leading threes for a year. The franchise record but Steph and Clay they will get that didn't last at all. It was over. 00:39:53 Speaker 4: I couldn't even get out of town. That ship was gone. 00:39:56 Speaker 1: I want to know what that Oracle like though, you played that Oracle boy for me, I'll always save them like for me, one of my top five arenas that's the most roundy is that I played in Yes, and it was an opening, so that really jumping. Yeah. 00:40:08 Speaker 3: Somebody asked me a good question about like what arena's really showcased their culture. 00:40:14 Speaker 4: You know, number one is Atlanta. 00:40:16 Speaker 1: You know, Memphis is high up there, and then you got to go Bay Area or you know, before it got the Chase Center. 00:40:22 Speaker 3: You know it's super corporate now. But that Oracle Man just they throw on that forties. It's going crazy, you know what I mean. So playing an Oracle Man was amazing, dude. The fans showed up every single night, no matter what the record was, what type of losing streak we had, they showed up, man. And uh, that's one thing I really fect about Warrior fans. It wasn't once they got good, it's from day one. They just die hard fans. So Oracle Arena used to be jumping, bro. Some of my best times for sure? 00:40:52 Speaker 1: Did you see did you see the up coming up step? 00:40:57 Speaker 4: Like when you were that early? When you got there not in time? 00:40:59 Speaker 1: Bro. 00:41:00 Speaker 4: I knew he was a good player. 00:41:01 Speaker 3: I knew I was getting with a point guard that liked to share it could shoot it. One thing that stood out the most with the was the work ethic. 00:41:09 Speaker 1: Uh. 00:41:09 Speaker 3: It'd been times me and Monte would be like, Yo, Steph, we got a game tonight. You know it's an hour after shoot around because me and Mante go straight from shooting around to a lift all the time, and then you would see Steph through the window, still on the court, and it's like, bro, get some rest, bro. You know us teaching him like yo, take care of yourself. But he wanted it so bad, bro, where nothing was gonna deny that. And he put the time in, he put the hours in. He was a good teammate. You know, we all know Steph is a solid dude. So when it happened, I was definitely shocked, but I wasn't surprised because of me seeing when nobody was watching. He was really putting that time and working for show. 00:41:47 Speaker 1: You. But you was killing too though. I can front run up for most improved. Yeah, yeah, man, that was my best year. Dude. 00:41:54 Speaker 4: It just felt good. 00:41:55 Speaker 2: Man. 00:41:56 Speaker 3: You know how it is when you get a new scene, you know you just let let let let go. And uh if I couldn't have done it without them trusting me. You know, Keith Smart was the perfect coach for me because he knew what I can do. And another dude putting that battery in my back, like show him everything, coach, Coach Smart got so yeah, it got to a point he was hitting so many of them on fuckers, it was like, damn, like you like you gotta you gotta just stay connect. You got a box and one you made, he made one, she made what you made? 00:42:30 Speaker 1: Three point contests and All Star Game? That felt good, amazing. 00:42:34 Speaker 3: I always told myself from day one, I'm never going to All Star Weekend unless I'm going to participate. And I always stayed away. You know, I took time time off, vacation, have a great year. All Star Weekend in l A. And you know they asked me being a three point contest dude, that sure was a dream come true. 00:42:51 Speaker 1: But it was. Yeah. 00:42:53 Speaker 3: I thought I was gonna be in a dunk contest. You know what I'm saying, so being a three point contest, I'm like, dude, this is different. 00:42:58 Speaker 4: So it was a great feeling. 00:43:00 Speaker 1: It was kind of tricky though, because they had us at the convention center to warm up. Drive you on a bus. 00:43:05 Speaker 3: To Staple Yeah, drive you on a bus to Staples Center to compete. They only give you like five minutes. So I'm like, yeah, I'm gonna get through the first round and you know, second round boy, Paul Man, Paul sent me home. He made his last shot. 00:43:19 Speaker 1: Boy had me sick dog already, know chie are you know so Paul hit that last shot dog and knock me out. But just the experience that was amazing, dude, you know, be in front of my home crowd in the three point contest, like, man, how we get here? So uh, definitely one of my top India experiences for sure. That's big bro to talk to us about going to Philly, having a new role, yep, just having to be around a whole new organization. 00:43:48 Speaker 4: Yeah, that was cool. 00:43:49 Speaker 3: You know, I was able to lock in with my guy, Swaggy Pe you know, another La guy. Oh yeah, so you're talking about unlimited jokes, swag Man.

Something wrong with that boy, It's something wrong with swag Man. We had a great time. But how they built that team, you know, they built it to be a contender. You know, that's when they acquired Andrew Bynham, Jay Rich they traded for me. I think Swaggy signed as a free agent. You had Evan and Thad and Spencer Arity there, Drew Holliday who was an All Star that year. 00:44:17 Speaker 4: It was a great It was a great year. 00:44:19 Speaker 3: Until you know, we got the news or it was great when we got there, until we got the news that you know, Byam was gonna miss the first part of the season. So it was like we were, you know, gonna beat this team that played inside out and you know, surrounding with shooters. I think everybody was trying to play like the Magic at the time, with like a D White and you know, so that's kind of the way we was gonna play. And then that shit just went a different route, and you know, we weren't that good. But I was able to see another young player be successful and Drew Holliday. So I liked my time in Philly. We had some good dudes. We just didn't achieve, you know, the things that we wanted to. And I was get to the playoffs and try to play for a championship. 00:44:56 Speaker 1: Who was some of the guys you had difficult time was on the defensive being with man. 00:45:02 Speaker 3: That's another great story talking to my wife. My wife is a talker too, and we're talking about, you know, people you had trouble with, and she brought up a telling all he couldn't do nothing with him. 00:45:13 Speaker 1: I said, damn. She's like, I'm just being honest. All I'm being honest. 00:45:17 Speaker 4: That's it. I'm being honest. 00:45:19 Speaker 3: But yeah, you you know Ron, you gotta get Ron up in there, dude, I feel like I got to this point not on your level being you know, one of those guys that's known for defense and you know, the defensive mindset guy. 00:45:34 Speaker 4: They're gonna let you get away with a little bit. So you and Ron did a good job. 00:45:37 Speaker 3: Of being able to use your hands but not you know, not hack and just you know, dictate where I'm going, like, no, you're going this way. 00:45:44 Speaker 4: Just you know, you and Ron was really good. Now you're going this way. 00:45:47 Speaker 1: I know you like to go left, you're going right, You're going in this area. 00:45:50 Speaker 3: So uh yeah, you and Ron for sure were those guys that you know was always on me and ain't giving no space, don't lock in onto that scout report like not today. 00:45:59 Speaker 1: Not mean you're gonna watch, gonna watch every play, every everyone you don't know that come from that come from the championship, experience championship. But one person is specific, you know him, James Post. I picked that up from James Posey. He used to always ask James, like, damn, why you keep watching the ship that they're about to play. He's like, no, these are a few extra clips. It's like him in transition. It's like him on the Post and like you know, him attacking the office. He had it in little segments. He'll watch it for about ten minutes, boom, don't say nothing, nobody closes, trying to put his feet on that damn hot path and just be focused for the game. So I tried to just steal some of that and bring it to uh too, mephics. You know that's what you do when you part the championship. Yeah, paid from you probably picked up a paid from Flash's probably stretcher. He probably makes sure he whatever whatever. Then you got reality. He reading books before the game. Okay, probably ain't gonna read no goddamn books. 00:47:00 Speaker 6: Table ticket over there, he living a way, he's working out, Like it's you gonna pick up the professionalism and how to be a pro from those guys who really really want it, you know what I'm saying. 00:47:11 Speaker 1: That's what I loved about that, bro. 00:47:13 Speaker 3: You no doubt and then you, like you said, you take little beats and pieces from these guys and then it's coming part of your routine exactly. You didn't even think that was something that you, you know, get you going for a game. So I love that that's that's something good for the young guys to know that information, because that's important. 00:47:29 Speaker 1: Always gotta be a student game, learn something learn. I was a sponge to everything, you know, going along side one growing up, Like I was a fan of Paul Pierre. I was a fan of these guys. But these guys has made me in at this point, so you gotta pick up on what they're doing. I gotta ask you, like, like you got a chance to learn about found it's good that you pick up on that, right, be crying man, want to know real bro talk. Yeah that's but then you went to Portland though, Yeah that that that had to been aheadache because your menu is decreased you know, and what we want to do, we want to perform so we can get paid back. And that that wasn't the situation we talk to about your time. Yeah, my time in Portland was cool. You know. Uh. 00:48:14 Speaker 4: We we had that team that was built to win, you know what I mean. 00:48:17 Speaker 3: Playing through LaMarcus, you know, who was an All Star, dumping the ball in there, you know, playing off him, that was fun. And then seeing another young player in Dames and seeing his uh you know, his climb. So I felt like that team was was really good. 00:48:32 Speaker 1: You know. 00:48:32 Speaker 3: We were in the in the tough West, and that first year we played really well. Mo Williams uh was coming off the bench with myself and who else come off the bench was me? Mo Yah and uh who else used to come off with us? I forget who else was the other guy. But we had a lot of fun that first year. And then the second year we got a lot of guys that got hurt, you know, well LaMarcus being out a lot of the time. But we had a great team. And Terry Stotts, because I used to act, I want to know why he'm playing like that. I just come coming off like that, and he put it in a way where I was like,

damn all right, okay, his his thought process was, And Terry Stott coaches off for sheet. 00:49:11 Speaker 4: If you ever you know, some coaches coach off field. Some coaches coach off a. 00:49:14 Speaker 3: Sheet where they kind of predetermine how the game flow is gonna be. So at five minutes, the right coming out, no matter how many shots you made on me, you coming out. And I used to always be like, dang, bro like I just hit two shots. Let me let me stay in there a little bit longer. And he kind of broke it down. He's like, I look at my bench, Like baseball, you guys are like the reserves. You know, you guys are giving the starters, you know, enough time to kind of catch their breath and you know, think about the game and then you guys do your job. 00:49:41 Speaker 1: You come out. And I was like, that shit sound cool, But if I make two shots, just leave me. I don't need none of that ship you are you know, I'm trying to get to the paper. 00:49:50 Speaker 3: But yeah, my time in Portland was definitely different. But I felt like we had a good team to kind of compete. But them Spurs, they was real, y'all was really in that time too. 00:50:01 Speaker 1: So what did you see in the young Lillard when he was there playing with him? 00:50:05 Speaker 3: Bro, It's like copy and paste with Steph, you know, as far as that underdog mindset, dame, he think everybody count him out. And I love that about him because he's like, nah, bro, they don't believe in me. That's the kind of attitude and type of work that he had. So he went to the extreme as well. He do all these crazy workouts with the boxing, with the running, just doing extra stuff all the time. And same thing seeing him in the gym countless hours, just putting up jumpers, trying to get better. David Vanderpool kind of being his guy that he was working with on the day to day watching film getting better with So uh, he put the time in, he put the work in, and I was not surprised that Dane was able. 00:50:46 Speaker 1: To restart him like he was able to sull O g. Meanwhile, I want to ask, I'm gonna go back a little bit, but the wars, you spent how many years with the war two years? Two years? And you spent six years with the you want to ring with with the with the heat, with the heat, which one of those experiences in those organizations you feel like, hey, man, I had a great tap. 00:51:14 Speaker 3: In my mind, Jimmy, and it's not evening closed. It's not I love the Bay. I just moved back from the Bay Man, I made it home. But just Miami was different. The fact I could just go outside and some shorts and a T shirt year round. 00:51:29 Speaker 4: Uh, just you know, nothing beats that. 00:51:32 Speaker 1: You know. 00:51:32 Speaker 3: The organization was amazing when it came to family and bringing everybody along. 00:51:36 Speaker 4: It wasn't just about the player. 00:51:37 Speaker 3: They want to know what your wife love, what your kids love, and you know, they tried to accommodate everybody equally

to It wasn't like this the way people they're getting treated different. Everybody got treated the same. So uh, that was probably one of my favorite organizations in city. 00:51:51 Speaker 4: To play in for sure. 00:51:52 Speaker 1: So like Yemmy, ain't nothing like you know. Yeah. Meanwhile, as you go in through your journey, like you know, contract agent, free agency and contracts drift. You know what I'm saying, How was that experience coming to the realization like, Okay, I want to continue my career in the league and overseas is possibly an option. I'm still youthful in my man at least you already know, so like, can you explain to us, like how that experience went. 00:52:26 Speaker 3: Yeah, So, you know, just coming off some solid years and going to Portland and you know, things kind of like my role getting shorter and shorter. 00:52:33 Speaker 4: I felt like I need to prove myself still. 00:52:35 Speaker 3: And then that was the first year two Fellas where my first year there, I played a lot of four So that's when now small ball is getting ready to happen. So found myself on a perimeter, you know, guarding bigger guys, right, and then that following year, you know, not playing as much, I wanted to prove myself. So I was like I don't care. I told my agent, I don't care what's happening. I need something guaranteed quick. It was like China, got some bread for you. I'm going to China, China. Yeah, and I knew the system because you know, Pool Jeter was there, Bobby Brown was there. So yeah, they telling me to hold. 00:53:10 Speaker 1: Get your bread. You're gonna go put your numbers up. 00:53:12 Speaker 3: You know, they gonna want you to score and be great, and then soon a season over where you go back to the league. So I was just in that mind frame where I just wanted to show guys I could still play, and that's kind of that was my way of showing guys. And I came home at the season, went back to Miami for the rest of the year. So it was difficult, you know, because I knew that I was better than guys, and everybody think they better than somebody. You know, it's all about where you are at the time, and you know how free agency go and who's a free agent next year, so much stuff, uh that comes and play with free agency where I just had to prove that I can still play for the other people in myself as well. That's the mud because a lot of people would be like, I'm just gonna go over here, Yeah, make that. 00:53:54 Speaker 1: Home with you determined you're part of a fraternity I know long here, so I felt good ship. Yeah, hell yeah man. And I heard I heard stories about China too. I know it sounds sweet. Yeah, they give the bread. But my partner, Lester, husband, I ain't gonna like my boy, And he said, he said, bro, it's like this, Bro. He said, well, you going there, you kill right, you killed, But just say like you might come with a game or you might have team. They look at you like. 00:54:22 Speaker 4: Boy like you then fell off like yeah, they look. 00:54:26 Speaker 1: At him, he like killing he like you might get a twenty or whatever. They might look at you like, but they tripled team in you at this past in fouling. So you get a couple of games like that, right, he said, If you look in the stands and you see one of the former the former colleagues, just know you need to be going somewhere else. And is it like that for real? 00:54:47 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it's like that. 00:54:48 Speaker 1: It's so cut. 00:54:49 Speaker 4: Throw bro and shout out to Lester. 00:54:51 Speaker 3: Though I played against him out there, he was the man I think he played in Louding. 00:54:55 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:54:55 Speaker 3: It was one of the teams that had a bunch of cheese and it was sweet for him. He had a good set up. 00:55:00 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:55:00 Speaker 3: Yeah, man, if you ain't getting them thirties and forties and fifties, like yeah, you know what's going on. 00:55:07 Speaker 1: There's plenty of straight thirties and forties. Yeah, what's going on? Bro? Got the NBA out on your motherfucking resume already. 00:55:15 Speaker 3: They man, they want forty for sure, exactly like that. So whatever, Lesson told you exactly what he said. But yeah, we did, we gotta talk. We had to talk about that though. 00:55:30 Speaker 1: Meanwhile, going I gotta I mean, I want to ask, I know, man, you know, talk about your little brother, how they feel seeing him make it to you know, the league, being an annoying brother that is coming in and you know you ain't call you n ain't yet. To see him do that, I know that make you proud. 00:55:46 Speaker 3: Amazing feeling, dog, because I used to think the lawn was weak because he didn't play like me. 00:55:52 Speaker 4: He didn't play like me. 00:55:53 Speaker 1: He wasn't a score you know, he wasn't you know, athletic. 00:55:57 Speaker 4: He was just sneaky. You know, he was a trickster. 00:55:59 Speaker 3: He could trick the ship out of the best you know what I mean, like play the pass and lanes, you know, make the right plays all the time, you know, shut down your other other team best offensive players. 00:56:10 Speaker 1: So that wasn't you know, that didn't look like my game to me. 00:56:13 Speaker 3: So just to see his his his his his route, you know, doing the prep year, doing JC like out the mud. 00:56:22 Speaker 4: You know, he really got the mud. 00:56:24 Speaker 3: So to see him have his name called and be able to you know, throw him his draft party was an amazing feeling because it also let me know I did a great job of being a big brother. You know, my dad used to always smack me in the back of the head, like, yo, your brother watching you. 00:56:37 Speaker 1: You know, clean that up. 00:56:38 Speaker 3: You know, don't don't carry yourself this way because he watching everything you do. And you don't realize that when you're a kid that you got this guy, you know, looking at every move that you do. So uh, it was definitely a great feeling to see your little

brother, you know, get there. And then my opinion, having you know, a dope career as well, you know, getting ten years in and you know, start in the family, just you know, being being a young man. 00:57:02 Speaker 1: He came a long way with the one on ones like the bushy ass now, oh no, I think you can see me right now? Yeah, still that game. 00:57:16 Speaker 3: He ain't gonna play me, but we always may make jokes about that. I tell him, like you still I don't care the actor right now you can see no mean nothing. 00:57:27 Speaker 1: Don't get to my spot. You know what you said the hip on do it big man talk to and we talked off camera. Man talk to us about you know how you partnering with Saint Jude and yeah the golfing thing. 00:57:45 Speaker 4: Yeah, man, So Saint Jude's been super resourceful. 00:57:49 Speaker 1: Uh. 00:57:49 Speaker 3: I was able to go to their event last year and just see how they do things and how they operate, and they do a lot of amazing things. So you know the fact that they're able to help so many kids around the world and you know, for free. You know, we talked about that as a major and now being able to be you know, a part of their team and helping them, you know, get more like minded people, more athletes to their golf events and people just out of my network. So that's going to be a nice little partnership with them when I'm able to work with them. So shout out to Preston and the land that because they've been been amazing. And then just you know my golf brand, Ace Members only that I started with d Wade a couple of years ago. We just really launched a year ago at art Baso Miami, And what we're trying to do is diversify the game, get more inner city kids into the game, and also try to take that the AAU type of system where we get behind those kids that's in the game but parents probably can't afford it financially, and try to get them equipment, try to, you know, get them travel to You know that golfers is so expensive, so we want to just give back and give kids in the inner city another option other than baseball, basketball, football. 00:58:56 Speaker 4: Pick this golf club up. It's going to take you a long way. 00:58:58 Speaker 3: You're gonna learn a lot about your health, and you're gonna meet so many different business people on that course. So I don't want to get more people like us in the game. And uh yeah, man, we want to bring like minded people on board that want to see kids be great. 00:59:11 Speaker 1: That's cold, man, get'n call you, get up with you because you teach some lessons. Man, give me less club you bro, Yeah, I got you. 00:59:19 Speaker 4: Great game. 00:59:19 Speaker 1: I hope y'all both gets your clubs. Mary come around a little bit. Okay, you know, I think I'm good for a third and burden. 00:59:31 Speaker 4: Third and burden. 00:59:34 Speaker 1: Yeah, running up. 00:59:37 Speaker 3: I don't know about you play sports other than basketball. On the golf course, you're gonna see it. Yeah, it's

some similar qut a few times, okay, time, So I mean what y'all call it? The course the greens a few times? But I ain't I ain't cold. 00:59:56 Speaker 1: I want to ask you what you think about the current state of the game right now. 01:00:00 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so me being in AU basketball now maybe like the seven seven, eight years now, man, I feel like we got to do better, you know what I mean, as far as coaches, far as trainers, you know, we need to find out more about what the kid needs to work on instead of you know, I feel I always say this to parents. A lot of trainers want to make sure you're not feeling bored, you know, instead of teaching your kid the basics. You know, it's okay to work on footwork and one or two dribble pull ups and catch and shoot. The boring stuff is what gets you paid, you know what I mean. So I feel like we got to do a better job, you know, me having an opportunity to play in Europe and see those kids develop at such a young age. It's like we're behind, you know, we play too many games. In my opinion, I feel like seven eighteen year olds shouldn't be traveling across the country to play games against kids that it probably won't matter. You want to go on vacation, take a week off and go enjoy your family ete, you know, throwing so much money in and being mad at your kid because they didn't perform because I spent all this money. So I think we got to do a better job as trainers, as coaches, as parents as well, uh, you know, and help our game get back to where it was and so we could be dominant. 01:01:10 Speaker 4: We still are dominant. I know a lot of youuros are you know, playing. 01:01:14 Speaker 3: Well, but you know, it's still more Americans playing the game at a high level. 01:01:18 Speaker 1: That's the fact. 01:01:20 Speaker 7: What is the game flawed or like Americans are still we still got because everyone says the youth system, but we're still developing the vest. Yeah yeah, but sometimes the rest of the world could just be catching up. 01:01:33 Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess we all got the same resources and been having it though, you know what I mean. But I feel like a lot of these kids get burnt out as well, so a lot of kids don't reach their full potential. 01:01:43 Speaker 1: So yeah, I ain't never look at it like that got me thinking that I need to slow down on my son workouts. 01:01:57 Speaker 4: For sure. 01:02:01 Speaker 1: Y'all come off a pull hamstringer. 01:02:06 Speaker 8: You know, y'all let him hit the Norman tech book. You don't need a game or something. You're right, Hey, I just picked up some game from man. Yeah, so after mun Well. Man, that takes another episode with our boy d Right. Man, we appreciate you, one of the ones. 01:02:24 Speaker 1: Man had a hell of career man, NBA Champion, give your flowers number respect man, real one. Appreciate you out. 01:02:30 Speaker 4: The mud, same man. Thank you fellas, thanks for having me, sir. 01:02:34 Speaker 1: Let's go, let's take that up. Yeah h