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Speaker 1: Welcome to Radio Hauraki's Off The Record podcast with Bec Sandys.
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Speaker 2: Kudu Gurus are heading back to New Zealand this month with their Rewind Tour, All Killer No Filler, and Kiwi band Pash are joining them. I've got Dave Faulkner back with me right now. Dave, it's good to see you, good to catch up again. How are you?
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Speaker 1: Thanks. Lovely seeing you as well. I'm really looking forward to next week. It's not far away at all.
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Speaker 2: It isn't. And, you know, you've been very busy since you were here for summer. You've got a new album that you've recorded with an orchestra. It's called Silk Purse. And you've been overseas touring as well.
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Speaker 1: We just came back from Spain and a show in London and a show in Stockholm. We had seven shows in Spain. That was a good day, you know, getting our feet wet again after having a bit of time off to make this album and all that stuff.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: So, yeah, we've been kind of back in the saddle for a little while and we're ready to go. Right. Friday, December 4, the album comes out. Yeah, it's a live album with a difference because it's the Hoodoo Gurus live but also we happen to have the Melbourne Symphony Orchestra along for the ride as well, which is kind of unusual. So it's a completely, you know, a complete rethink of our songs and you hear them in quite an amazing new way.
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Speaker 2: Because it would be quite full, wouldn't it, with an orchestra behind it, kind of filling gaps and putting in fillers that you wouldn't normally hear just within your band and voices.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, we had to make room. It's still rocking, you know, and the orchestra has to rock along with us. They've got to, you know, match fire with fire. But I also, there's quite a lot of songs that are deep cuts as well. There's a few hits, obviously, that you pretty much, you know, you can kind of imagine in your mind what it will sound like with, you know, you know, the Magnificent Seven meets the Hoodoo Gurus or something.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 1: But Like Wow Wipeout does remind me of the Magnificent Seven, actually. But the other songs we chose were, you know, kind of some ballads and even some obscure B-sides. One was a song that was only ever a demo, never recorded properly by the band. So we went really deep into our catalogue to find stuff that we thought would really be interesting with an orchestra and what it could do to it. And, you know, it has been incredible the way it sounds. We're just so knocked out by it.
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Speaker 2: Were you quite hands-on in the development of that with the orchestra?
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Speaker 1: Yes. I didn't do any arrangements. We have a fantastic composer named Alex Turley who's a young fella. I say young fella. He's in his early 30s now. He's in his 20s when he did it first because we first did this about three and a half years ago or four years ago nearly with the Canberra Symphony Orchestra. And that's when we worked with Alex and we chose the songs together and he did the arrangements and I had a couple of small ideas, but basically it's all his handiwork. And then 18 months later, luckily, we got the offer to do it with the Melbourne Symphony Orchestra. So that was in January this year. And we have spent a bit of time pulling it all together because there were some technical challenges to mix it into an album. We're releasing the entire concert. So it's a double album. It's on CD, it's on double album vinyl, limited edition for that, and of course streaming and YouTube and all your usual places.
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Speaker 2: It sounds like an album that you actually want to listen to with your headphones on, plugged into your turntable. Like for me, that's what I'd be wanting to hear, the full noise, not streamed. I want to sit down and immerse myself in it that way, as you would if you were at the concert, right?
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Speaker 1: Totally, and there's the artwork for both the CD and the vinyl album have lots of great photos from the concert, so you will feel like you're there. Yeah. It's a really incredible, it was an incredible atmosphere on the night. It was magical. And we're pleased to say it kind of sounds like that on the recording too. I mean, the amount of whistling going on, it blows my mind. Between, you know, the audience whistling, you know, enthusiastically. Yeah. It was kind of shocking to me. Because you don't really notice on stage. It's so in your head and in the moment. But listening back on the recording and, you know, mixing it is like, God, people think we put this in ourselves. It's kind of over the top.
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Speaker 2: Well, because it's not often that you would record one of your live shows, so listening back to it would be quite bizarre in that sense. But how do you think it's going to feel now you've had a full orchestra behind you, kind of going back to your stripped back, just doing your normal music?
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Speaker 1: Look, we don't feel there's anything lacking in our normal line-up. We're fairly confident that we can make enough noise to replace what you might have missed on the orchestral versions. As I said, it's a reinterpretation of that. But, you know, the original interpretation is still pretty rock solid. And, yeah, what's great about this tour, and you mentioned it, you know, All Killer, No Filler, it's only singles. So, you know, we've had 41 singles in our career, which is kind of crazy, but we have been around for a while. And of those singles, you know, we only get to play probably, you know, maybe a dozen, you know, regularly. So there's a lot of songs that, you know, quite... you know, reasonable-sized hits plus also, you know, crowd favourites that we just don't get to play because, you know, when you're making a set list, you put a bunch of singles in and you say, well, now we've got to choose some album tracks. We can't just do all
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singles, but this time we can. So a lot of songs that have been pretty much, you know, neglected for a long time by us are coming into the set as well as, you know, we chose some pretty crazy songs to be singles, so it's not like you're going to be hearing, you know, people, I think, when you say singles, they sometimes think, oh, the safe songs that everyone will like. But, no, we've actually released some pretty, you know, strange choices as singles. And, you know, it's fun to be able to pull those ones out from obscurity, so to speak, you know, and let them have their day in the sun again.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, how was it curating that set list, though?
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Speaker 1: You always want to have some peaks and valleys, you know, and you've got a time that, you know, so the valleys aren't too many valleys next to each other, otherwise you go too deep into the hole. But we like it to be a journey, as they say. Yeah, but it's kind of like, you know, it's working out what to leave out is the biggest problem, of course, you know. So we did some polling on socials with people to see what songs they want to hear. And I was quite amazed at some of the choices because, you know, you don't necessarily know which songs have the biggest cult following. So, yeah, there's a few that I wasn't expecting would be, you know, more, you know, we'll probably put them in more often now because we know that people really want to hear those particular ones. But it is a movable feast. We're going to, you know, kind of wing it. Because, you know, as I say, 41 songs, we can't play them all, so we're going to have to, you know, leave some out. So it's going to be changing from show to show and, you know, and maybe even, you know, on the night itself if someone sings out for something else we weren't thinking of. If it's a single, we'll, you know, definitely chuck it in. We can't do anything else, though. That's the only thing, you know. We're not going to do any other crowd favourites that are, you know, album tracks because that's, you know, we always do that.
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Speaker 2: Have you ever thought of doing a show where people just request songs and you just play them live?
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Speaker 1: We have done almost that in the past in the sense of, like, the shows have gone off the rails where it's just been one request after another. And I've got to be honest, Brad doesn't like it when I do that because he is very, you know, he really wants to play the songs to the best of his ability and not be embarrassed by making a fluff or, you know. And, you know, the muscular memory on some of those obscurities, you know, it's not there, you know. You have to really kind of bone up on it first so you don't have to, be, you know, in a sense, you know, doing homework while you're playing it, you know?
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: You know, trying to rack your brain, what's next? You know, because especially when you start to think like that, you will
trip yourself up anyway. Yeah. So he likes to have a little bit of forewarning. So we, you know, most songs we can pull out of the hat, but there are a few where, you know, you really need to give Brad a heads up.
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Speaker 2: Got to practice. Have that rehearsal. Be prepared.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, just sound check, you know, or else even backstage. It's usually backstage. I'll say, oh, I want to play this one tonight. So he'll just quickly, you know, get the guitar and just remind himself of what he's got to do so he doesn't, as I say, because it's more the panic, I think, in Brad that, you know, throws him. So as long as he's got that little bit of extra, you know, wriggle room there, he's happy.
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Speaker 2: Well, because you were in New Zealand over summer, I was going to ask, because Iggy Pop and the Stooges were one of your influences, did you pick up any hints or any tips from Iggy as you were standing, obviously, side of stage watching him perform?
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Speaker 1: We weren't side stage because it was actually better. I like seeing a band from out front. I'm like everyone else, you know. You know, when you're side stage, I'll be honest, you know, the energy is actually going out the other way and you kind of feel like a bit you're left out.
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Speaker 2: Well, you don't hear it, do you?
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Speaker 1: Well, I mean, you know, you can hear well, you know, and if you want to hear a certain instrument, you might want to stand on that side of the stage. So we did a bit of that as well. We had the luxury of doing that. But for Iggy, literally I want to be out front so I can get the full show, you know, and the full energy. But no, so we didn't get tips. We did talk, we did meet Iggy and he was fantastic. You know, we weren't even sure we would because, you know, he's a big star and, you know, but no, he was very, very nice. And we had a couple of photos on social media with him and, you know, you can see it was a bit of a, you know, bit of a nice thing. But just for me, I mean, how many great songs there were in the set, you know, I mean, I love, you know, stuff from his solo career, of course, you know, as well. And, and, It was a very tight set and what an incredible band he had. He had, you know, all-star band. So it was really a joy to watch, you know, when you see someone just top of their game and, you know, after all this time and playing the songs that are so much a part of your life and then they are being made fresh again right in front of your eyes.
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Speaker 2: So he hasn't inspired you to take your shirt off and do a few sets?
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Speaker 1: Oh, God. I wish he'd put it on, I'll be honest. I know it's his thing but, gee, I don't need to see that. That's just me. But, yeah, we love him. You know, obviously, you know, that's that's a man and he's the legend but but um no i i i i've done it once or twice in our whole career so that tells you no it's not gonna happen and definitely not now.
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Speaker 2: Yeah well because you've got a new zealand band opening for you pash and i actually i was a huge fan of them in the 90s I had their t-shirt, I had the EP, I saw Steve and Clem, they did a bit of a warm-up rehearsal gig a couple of weeks ago, and I know every word to every song, so I'm looking forward to this gig, because it's going to be one where I know the support band and the main stage, and I'm really looking forward to seeing all of these singles put together.
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Speaker 1: Thank you, yeah, well, as I say, there'll be some you won't even know, though, because you won't realise that was ever a single, and therefore you never heard it, because it was such a strange decision, but But most will be, yeah, there's going to be a lot of, oh, that one, wow, I forgot about that one, you know, that's cool.
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Speaker 2: So if people want to get your new album, they won't be able to get it at the gigs because you'll hear it next week, so it's two weeks from that that.
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Speaker 1: The album's released. Yeah, it comes out on December 4. You can order it now. If you go to our Facebook page, you'll see posts about it. You know, but there'll be, as I say, the vinyl is going to be limited edition, double vinyl album with a seven-inch single that is– one of the tracks, the overture actually of the orchestra, they played like a medley of the songs in like an overture. So we're putting it on a separate single, mainly because of sonic purposes, just to make sure the vinyl had the best length for the quality. So we didn't want it, the side one would have been a bit too long if we had that song on as well. So that's on a separate single with a B-side that's nowhere released elsewhere. And there's a poster as well in the vinyl. But But the CD is exactly the whole show again with the overture in its rightful spot because CDs are easier to squeeze stuff onto.
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Speaker 2: That's so good. And great timing for Christmas.
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Speaker 1: Oh, absolutely. I mean, it's a great, great, great record. People are loving it. I mean, you know, we've got different reviewers and stuff have now had access to it. And, you know, obviously I've had friends and family have been listening to it. And the thing that has come back to me is the comments has been from some friends of mine was that they– they are surprised that they can hear the lyrics better for some reason. I mean, I don't know whether it's just the way it's set off in the music, because I mean, I never buried them in the mixes, but they're just really striking people much more forcefully, hearing the songs presented this way. And for me, the thing I feel when I hear it is just how much melody is gushing out of there. It's just like, I mean, the tunes haven't changed, but for something like all that extra colour of the presentation with the orchestra and the timber of those, all those instruments, you know, together and weaving in the arrangements, It is just luscious. That's all I can say. And it's just a revelation to me.
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Speaker 2: Oh, that's awesome. I can't wait to hear it in its entirety with my headphones on, soaking it all in. It's the best way to listen to music. I can't stream music. I'm very old school.
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Speaker 1: Well, I love an album. So, you know, streaming, you know, you get those ads sometimes if you don't pay like I don't. So I have to put up with ads sometimes or YouTube, whatever, you know. So, no, it's not the same thing as, you know, settling in with a record that's going to take you somewhere.
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Speaker 2: So you're playing three shows. You start next week. You're going to be in Christchurch on the 19th, Wellington on the 20th, and Auckland on the 21st. I'm going to be there singing away to Pash and to the Hoodoo Gurus. Is there anything that we've missed that you'd like to say before we sign off?
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Speaker 1: No, other than the fact that we really are so happy that we've reconnected with New Zealand. We didn't come for a very long time, and there's a complicated story behind all that, which I don't care to... to go into now that it was not something we wanted to have happen, but it just happened. It's just circumstances made it not possible. So it's been an absolute joy to come back and see your beautiful country and, you know, see our friends everywhere.
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Speaker 2: New Zealand loves you and we can't wait to see you next week. It's so exciting and tickets are selling fast. So for all of you listeners out there, you've got to get your tickets right now because it's definitely a gig you don't want to miss and sign up for their album out on the 4th of December. Dave, thank you so much for your time today and we'll see you next week.