Full Transcript for Dick Campbell

breaking, you know, it was 78 00:03:58.580 --> 00:04:00.020 four o'clock in the morning when he left, he goes, 79 00:04:00.620 --> 00:04:07.020 my name to the ball. Oh, I enjoyed that. We 80 00:04:07.060 --> 00:04:07.879 were certainly. 81 00:04:08.139 --> 00:04:09.960 You'd just got up, see, before I had just signed, 82 00:04:10.020 --> 00:04:12.680 I'm just remembering now it's coming back, the year before 83 00:04:12.719 --> 00:04:14.819 you were just, you came up through. 84 00:04:14.479 --> 00:04:16.959 The playoffs at the last minute, was it? 85 00:04:17.160 --> 00:04:19.480 Well, I took the job in February and I think 86 00:04:19.560 --> 00:04:22.670 we were eight points behind at the bottom and we 87 00:04:22.689 --> 00:04:23.850 went down with a point. Yeah. 88 00:04:25.240 --> 00:04:27.459 Drew Hart, last game of the season. We should have 89 00:04:27.490 --> 00:04:28.410 won that day anyway. 90 00:04:29.589 --> 00:04:33.410 And we came up on next season in the playoff. 91 00:04:33.470 --> 00:04:36.209 That's right, I remember watching it. Because I knew I 92 00:04:36.230 --> 00:04:36.610 was coming. 93 00:04:37.230 --> 00:04:37.329 Aye. 94 00:04:37.449 --> 00:04:40.139 And obviously you were going up to the first division, 95 00:04:40.160 --> 00:04:40.459 weren't you? 96 00:04:40.819 --> 00:04:43.259 You were getting promoted to the first division. It was 97 00:04:44.100 --> 00:04:50.329 a funny story. See that again. It was the strangest 98 00:04:50.889 --> 00:04:54.860 thing I've ever done. Last week, until I got sacked, 99 00:04:55.120 --> 00:04:58.120 I was probably the longest serving manager in Britain in 100 00:04:58.600 --> 00:05:06.560 terms of games. 8,600, whatever that is. And we had 101 00:05:07.379 --> 00:05:11.199 drawn at Fairhill in the first leg of the playoffs. 102 00:05:11.240 --> 00:05:16.079 So we're going up there. We must have had 4,000 103 00:05:16.079 --> 00:05:20.860 fans up there, apparently, maybe more. Anyway, we're sitting at 104 00:05:20.879 --> 00:05:26.000 the game. And they had a few well-known players in 105 00:05:26.019 --> 00:05:28.240 their team, if you think of them. We had Bobby 106 00:05:28.259 --> 00:05:32.220 Lineny and we were all playing for Peterhead. And it 107 00:05:32.259 --> 00:05:36.100 was a great atmosphere, but with eight minutes to go 108 00:05:36.120 --> 00:05:39.259 or something, or five minutes to go, we need to 109 00:05:39.279 --> 00:05:39.579 score a. 110 00:05:39.560 --> 00:05:40.720 Goal, right? 111 00:05:41.779 --> 00:05:44.899 To keep us alive. And the fans were getting me 112 00:05:44.959 --> 00:05:50.339 a tight, right? And the strangest thing, Simon, I've ever done, 113 00:05:50.600 --> 00:05:54.680 or any decision I've ever made, I took my two 114 00:05:54.699 --> 00:05:58.610 centre-halves off. I took them off. I had to. I 115 00:05:58.629 --> 00:06:00.930 needed a goal or it was pointless. And I put 116 00:06:00.949 --> 00:06:06.930 Paul Ritchie on. Right. Just on

the park. They're clean through. 117 00:06:07.509 --> 00:06:13.509 Bobby Lynn rounds the goalkeeper and fucking hits the post. Seriously. 118 00:06:14.439 --> 00:06:20.000 And Paul Ritchie scored in injury time to make extra time. 119 00:06:21.170 --> 00:06:22.509 and the rest is history. 120 00:06:22.670 --> 00:06:25.370 All the fans. 121 00:06:25.480 --> 00:06:28.079 Had started to make their way home but they were 122 00:06:28.100 --> 00:06:30.420 halfway down the road to tell me. My boys were 123 00:06:30.439 --> 00:06:35.579 there when they heard that. And the rest was magnificent. 124 00:06:36.500 --> 00:06:39.810 And we won. We won the penalty kicks. And it's 125 00:06:39.850 --> 00:06:45.949 the biggest carry I've ever seen. We stopped at Tesco's 126 00:06:45.970 --> 00:06:48.980 and had the big honestly. The directors filled up that. 127 00:06:50.300 --> 00:06:51.720 When I got home at night, there was a big 128 00:06:51.740 --> 00:06:53.699 party in my house and the rest of it. But 129 00:06:54.259 --> 00:06:58.660 Thistle deserved it. They hang in there. They should have 130 00:06:58.680 --> 00:07:01.319 won it anyway. There were a lot of part-time teams 131 00:07:01.379 --> 00:07:03.879 in it, but it's part and parcel to football. 132 00:07:04.399 --> 00:07:06.509 And you must have had, well, we'll talk about that. 133 00:07:06.810 --> 00:07:10.850 Obviously, in your long-spanning career as a manager, you must 134 00:07:10.889 --> 00:07:12.970 have had so many of those types of moments. 135 00:07:13.230 --> 00:07:15.350 But can we take you back to your playing days, 136 00:07:16.029 --> 00:07:16.550 first of all? 137 00:07:16.629 --> 00:07:17.360 I always never do. 138 00:07:18.370 --> 00:07:20.550 Did you always see yourself as a kind of a 139 00:07:20.589 --> 00:07:23.490 leader that would go into the coaching side of management 140 00:07:24.490 --> 00:07:25.649 or was that something that just kind. 141 00:07:25.569 --> 00:07:28.870 Of to be honest with you I was never ever 142 00:07:29.589 --> 00:07:32.709 a good player I played 440 reserve games. 143 00:07:34.120 --> 00:07:38.379 What position were you I played we won the Scottish 144 00:07:38.399 --> 00:07:41.139 Cup at under 16 level big leachman and all the 145 00:07:41.160 --> 00:07:44.149 boys all played for my brother and I scored 80 146 00:07:44.149 --> 00:07:46.730 103 goals I was a striker then right. 147 00:07:48.370 --> 00:07:51.290 And I went and signed for Dundee United. Man, United 148 00:07:51.310 --> 00:07:57.120 will never want me. As a striker, didn't work out. 149 00:07:57.519 --> 00:08:01.279 And then in midfield, I think I played 150 with 150 00:08:01.300 --> 00:08:05.420 Cowan Beeson, maybe 156 with Breakin' in midfield. Right. And 151 00:08:05.439 --> 00:08:06.379 then as you get older. 152 00:08:06.519 --> 00:08:07.339 Working your way back. 153 00:08:07.500 --> 00:08:09.810 Working your way back. I was a competitor. 154 00:08:09.829 --> 00:08:11.750 Shorts

would have been a dirty bastard. 155 00:08:12.910 --> 00:08:18.910 I was a competitor. Nobody ever, ever had to... Test 156 00:08:19.410 --> 00:08:22.389 my commitment. I can honestly say that. I don't know 157 00:08:22.430 --> 00:08:25.670 what used to happen to me. Come three o'clock when 158 00:08:25.709 --> 00:08:28.389 that whistle went, it was just a mindset for me 159 00:08:28.430 --> 00:08:33.169 to switch on. And I've always demanded that of everybody else, 160 00:08:33.250 --> 00:08:37.529 as you two all know. Went to the Indy United, 161 00:08:37.549 --> 00:08:43.799 didn't work out. I think, you know, when I went 162 00:08:43.820 --> 00:08:46.889 to the Indy United, That was where my friendship with 163 00:08:46.909 --> 00:08:51.179 Wyatt Smith came in. And as everybody knows, I was 164 00:08:51.899 --> 00:08:57.000 part of his funeral stuff. And he was just, he 165 00:08:57.059 --> 00:09:01.299 was 21 and we all stayed in the Broughton Ferry, 166 00:09:01.639 --> 00:09:04.980 Safefield Road. In Diggs. In Diggs, in a big house. 167 00:09:05.840 --> 00:09:10.470 And I'm telling you, Wyatt was 21, I was 16. 168 00:09:10.470 --> 00:09:14.350 Even then, the leadership qualities for Wyatt was not there. 169 00:09:15.259 --> 00:09:17.539 I was a shipwright for trade and when I went 170 00:09:17.620 --> 00:09:21.299 to Dundee United, I went, my dad always said to me, 171 00:09:21.399 --> 00:09:23.980 get yourself a trade son, then you get up your 172 00:09:24.019 --> 00:09:25.039 trade and all that rest of it. 173 00:09:25.039 --> 00:09:26.879 So I was halfway through my apprenticeship when I went 174 00:09:26.919 --> 00:09:27.409 to Dundee United. 175 00:09:28.110 --> 00:09:30.690 So to complete my apprenticeship, in the afternoons I used 176 00:09:30.710 --> 00:09:33.309 to go to Rob Caledon and that kept me going 177 00:09:33.850 --> 00:09:37.389 and all that rest of it. But what I did then, 178 00:09:37.409 --> 00:09:40.980 see if you want to do that, stay at 5 179 00:09:40.980 --> 00:09:43.039 to 9 in the morning. You had to fucking run 180 00:09:43.080 --> 00:09:47.919 for it. to Broughty Ferry, to Tannery. That's a fair cabbie. 181 00:09:48.159 --> 00:09:51.379 He was fantastic. And he had that qualities about him. 182 00:09:51.379 --> 00:09:52.250 Even then at 21? 183 00:09:52.250 --> 00:09:52.490 Then? 184 00:09:52.570 --> 00:09:55.960 Oh, he was just a lovely, lovely, I never had 185 00:09:55.980 --> 00:09:58.980 a night goes by that I didn't, you know, he 186 00:09:59.019 --> 00:10:03.759 was a good, good, good friend of mine. And then 187 00:10:03.799 --> 00:10:06.960 I went back to Cowdenbeath. I had to go to 188 00:10:06.980 --> 00:10:14.870 Cowdenbeath for my first abound. And we had 14,000 at Falkirk, Cowdenbeath, 14,000 189 00:10:14.870 --> 00:10:23.460 at Central Park. MacArthur and the Goals. Jim MacArthur. MacArthur, 190 00:10:23.500 --> 00:10:30.149 McLaughlin and Jack. Campbell, Cannell, Moore. Lane, Dixon, Mullen, Bostock 191 00:10:30.210 --> 00:10:33.570 and Ross. That was my debut team. I mean, that 192 00:10:33.590 --> 00:10:37.669 was in 17. And they're all legends at Cowanbeef. These 193 00:10:37.710 --> 00:10:40.450 boys will never remember them, but they were great players 194 00:10:40.490 --> 00:10:43.809 in Cowanbeef. So I'd left Indy United and I went 195 00:10:43.850 --> 00:10:46.590 to Cowanbeef and I signed for them the day before 196 00:10:46.710 --> 00:10:50.419 my 17th birthday and I signed the Thursday It started 197 00:10:50.460 --> 00:10:53.620 me in the Saturday. Andy Matthews loved me for some reason. 198 00:10:53.940 --> 00:10:57.139 Alec Ferguson's a good friend of Andy Matthews. Right. They 199 00:10:57.220 --> 00:11:01.200 all talk, Alec talks about it. Andy used to love 200 00:11:01.220 --> 00:11:03.639 Dick because Dick could get in about them and this 201 00:11:03.730 --> 00:11:04.070 and that. 202 00:11:04.110 --> 00:11:05.590 I suppose I was like that, Simon. 203 00:11:05.629 --> 00:11:06.789 It was in your nature. 204 00:11:06.970 --> 00:11:10.490 It was, it was one of the ones. I never 205 00:11:10.529 --> 00:11:13.970 gave Jake any else bar enthusiasm. Never gave you any 206 00:11:14.070 --> 00:11:19.940 else bar natural enthusiasm for football. And, eh, The rest 207 00:11:20.000 --> 00:11:23.799 is history, you know. Went to, fed under United to Dunfermline. 208 00:11:25.139 --> 00:11:29.750 Two grand I got. Two grand for signing. Right? 209 00:11:30.750 --> 00:11:34.529 There's nine of us in the family. I bought everybody, right? 210 00:11:34.690 --> 00:11:36.049 I gave them all a hundred quid. 211 00:11:36.470 --> 00:11:36.789 Brilliant. 212 00:11:38.580 --> 00:11:39.700 I didn't leave them with much. 213 00:11:39.720 --> 00:11:45.919 You can buy, you can buy a house with that. 214 00:11:45.940 --> 00:11:48.019 Maybe two houses with that kind of money, you know. 215 00:11:48.830 --> 00:11:51.620 But I tell the story when I'm doing these dinners 216 00:11:51.629 --> 00:11:55.000 and everything that I see the boathouses. But instead, I 217 00:11:55.000 --> 00:11:58.360 phoned up Pink, my son Brenna, and I phoned up 218 00:11:58.379 --> 00:12:01.179 Elisha and said, see you two. Pack your bags, we're 219 00:12:01.200 --> 00:12:05.220 going to Hoorn and Doorn. So I blew the lot. 220 00:12:05.399 --> 00:12:09.559 Seriously blew the lot. Went to Benidorm with Elisha and 221 00:12:09.620 --> 00:12:12.870 Pink for three weeks. Had £ 60 left, that was it. 222 00:12:12.889 --> 00:12:16.610 But I enjoyed my time. I didn't tell him. I 223 00:12:16.649 --> 00:12:20.730 was playing that night, Elisha broke his leg. Right. the 224 00:12:20.750 --> 00:12:23.850 two centre halves the week before we went to Aberdeen 225 00:12:23.870 --> 00:12:27.879 drew 1-1 went to Hearts beat them 3-2 and me 226 00:12:27.899 --> 00:12:29.139 and Lisa were the centre halves. 227 00:12:30.919 --> 00:12:33.639 But at least broke his leg it was a horrible

228 00:12:33.700 --> 00:12:37.600 horrible break Jim Jefferies he was. 229 00:12:37.519 --> 00:12:39.889 With the wind and Jim went Jim was a good 230 00:12:39.909 --> 00:12:44.029 player I wouldn't tell him that he's a good player. 231 00:12:44.470 --> 00:12:46.889 Big tall so it was a collision with Jim Jefferies 232 00:12:47.450 --> 00:12:48.330 the ball was. 233 00:12:48.350 --> 00:12:51.399 Big Big Leash's touch, let him do the fight. The 234 00:12:51.440 --> 00:12:54.480 ball went away and Jim was always going to win 235 00:12:54.500 --> 00:12:59.460 the ball. You couldn't force him to blame to that. 236 00:13:01.779 --> 00:13:04.759 Horrible break. Jim went in, the tackle, two of them clashed. 237 00:13:05.320 --> 00:13:07.940 Both the fibula and the tibia were sticking out of 238 00:13:07.960 --> 00:13:11.580 Jim's skin. He never kicked an argo after that. I 239 00:13:11.779 --> 00:13:14.779 always remember he was funny. You know, Big Leash thinks 240 00:13:14.820 --> 00:13:19.419 he's a poet. He does think he's a poet. And 241 00:13:19.480 --> 00:13:21.720 I was sitting there, me, Jimmy Stevenson, running home with 242 00:13:21.759 --> 00:13:26.029 the bag. And he's going, Dak, Dak, come here, come here. Well, 243 00:13:26.049 --> 00:13:30.809 this was my mate. He says, here, take that. Send 244 00:13:30.850 --> 00:13:33.730 your dick, put it in Jim's mouth. Let him bite 245 00:13:33.769 --> 00:13:37.090 the pain, you know. And see when I see all 246 00:13:37.110 --> 00:13:39.940 the poetry and everything, I wish the fuck I'd never 247 00:13:39.980 --> 00:13:43.740 done it. I tell him that. But he never kicked 248 00:13:43.799 --> 00:13:48.019 another boy after that. And that's fortunes of football. You've 249 00:13:48.059 --> 00:13:48.779 got a bad injury. 250 00:13:49.340 --> 00:13:53.299 Would you have been young, Jim, at that point? 251 00:13:53.299 --> 00:13:55.559 21. We were in the same class at the school. 252 00:13:56.559 --> 00:13:58.600 And my brother Ian, he was in the Cleverer class. 253 00:13:58.659 --> 00:14:02.620 Me and Luce were in the Dovey class. But, you know, 254 00:14:03.080 --> 00:14:07.480 Big Graham Shaw, boys like that all played. Jock Mackey, 255 00:14:07.539 --> 00:14:12.879 Ken Mackey, Alec Cowan, David McNichol, Ger Carlson. He's the 256 00:14:12.919 --> 00:14:15.840 only goalkeeper I've ever seen in a pint of lager 257 00:14:15.899 --> 00:14:23.860 at a pre-match game. So then, the happiest days, I mean, 258 00:14:23.879 --> 00:14:27.850 we've won, we have won, and I emphasise the we, 259 00:14:28.279 --> 00:14:32.690 not me. I always seem to say, 44 manager of 260 00:14:32.710 --> 00:14:36.129 the month. And you say to yourself, I've got a 261 00:14:36.470 --> 00:14:38.529 book coming out in a couple of weeks. 262 00:14:38.549 --> 00:14:41.149 My mum and dad died with dementia. 263 00:14:42.309 --> 00:14:44.090 I know you guys are familiar with the whole thing. 264 00:14:44.110 --> 00:14:49.100 So I decided to... build gardens. I'm the chairman of 265 00:14:49.139 --> 00:14:53.769 the Censor Gardens in Scotland. And Censor Gardens have got 266 00:14:53.789 --> 00:14:58.929 to be built for censored people who are suffering from dementia. Touch, feeling, smell, noise. 267 00:14:59.309 --> 00:15:03.529 They have to have special needs. And I do that. 268 00:15:04.409 --> 00:15:07.279 I thought the best thing to do, it goes on 269 00:15:07.360 --> 00:15:10.779 and on and on. You just don't know where we're 270 00:15:10.840 --> 00:15:16.620 going with this. But I finished my career in And 271 00:15:16.679 --> 00:15:20.460 I look back on it, the best days of my 272 00:15:20.500 --> 00:15:24.360 life were at Brecon. And I think you've always got 273 00:15:24.399 --> 00:15:28.019 your own special, probably, I don't know if Celtic was 274 00:15:28.059 --> 00:15:30.590 the best days of your life, but in my opinion, 275 00:15:33.830 --> 00:15:34.950 I then went to play for. 276 00:15:35.730 --> 00:15:39.950 You were saying you're 21 at Dunfermline then, so there's 277 00:15:39.970 --> 00:15:43.269 still a stretch there. Where do you go over the 278 00:15:43.309 --> 00:15:44.990 line into the coaching side and management? 279 00:15:45.029 --> 00:15:45.210 I know. 280 00:15:46.309 --> 00:15:48.929 Well, that was when were you done filming? 281 00:15:48.950 --> 00:15:51.789 What age? Early 90s? Yep. 282 00:15:51.789 --> 00:15:57.190 1990. No, 1990. That's 16. 283 00:15:57.190 --> 00:16:00.379 I would be about 29, 30 or something when we 284 00:16:00.419 --> 00:16:03.100 signed you when I went done filming. But I had 285 00:16:03.159 --> 00:16:08.980 went to... So how did you... Simon, be under no illusions. 286 00:16:10.139 --> 00:16:13.899 This is the biggest phenomenon in Scottish football that Dick 287 00:16:13.940 --> 00:16:19.250 Campbell is still I was a smoker I was a 288 00:16:19.269 --> 00:16:22.879 drinker I liked the smell of the perfume it didn't 289 00:16:23.000 --> 00:16:26.320 make me a fucking bad boy in any way never 290 00:16:26.399 --> 00:16:30.980 in your life dick ask anybody to play fucking dick 291 00:16:31.080 --> 00:16:34.159 coaching George Mackey I was talking to you last week 292 00:16:34.240 --> 00:16:38.960 at John Young 75th George Mackey George and Gordon Stratton 293 00:16:39.039 --> 00:16:42.500 as you know they've got the coaching school there and 294 00:16:42.720 --> 00:16:44.470 he was telling me when he played at Brecon. 295 00:16:44.700 --> 00:16:46.740 I used to have him with a throat every Saturday. 296 00:16:47.679 --> 00:16:50.779 But honestly, I had no time for guys. See if 297 00:16:50.860 --> 00:16:54.059 I run past somebody at Pat Tackleland. Fucking honestly, I 298 00:16:54.100 --> 00:16:58.549 wouldn't forget him at half time. That was my style, 299 00:16:58.889 --> 00:17:02.450 you know. And George agreed with me last week. He 300 00:17:02.490 --> 00:17:06.450 was saying Dick was phenomenal for us because I

argued 301 00:17:06.470 --> 00:17:09.630 with him every week. But see, after the game, we 302 00:17:09.650 --> 00:17:11.250 were the first two that went for a pint together. 303 00:17:11.789 --> 00:17:13.930 and we're still the best of pals to this day, 304 00:17:13.950 --> 00:17:17.190 but physically, I was ready to kill him every week 305 00:17:17.210 --> 00:17:20.609 because he was like a fanny about the ball. However, 306 00:17:20.630 --> 00:17:23.509 I went to Brecon. I played them for seven years. Then, 307 00:17:23.789 --> 00:17:26.630 would you believe, I took the player coaches to a... 308 00:17:27.549 --> 00:17:30.970 Ian Fleming came in, and you learn from that. Ian 309 00:17:31.019 --> 00:17:37.839 Fleming came in, decided at Brecon. Three days, put me in. 310 00:17:38.000 --> 00:17:41.599 I'm the captain. Dick, This is not what you're wanting 311 00:17:41.619 --> 00:17:44.019 to hear, but I'm going to play in your position, son. 312 00:17:44.059 --> 00:17:47.940 You don't need to go. Stirling's offering 7,000 and we've 313 00:17:47.980 --> 00:17:51.940 accepted it. 7,000. I just shook hands with him. That's fine. 314 00:17:52.079 --> 00:17:54.569 I'm not wanting it. I'm away, you know. I never 315 00:17:54.740 --> 00:18:00.509 enjoyed the player-manager thing. We got beat, would you believe it, coincidentally, 316 00:18:00.549 --> 00:18:06.789 half a fourth. 4-1 at East Stirling. Me, Bobby McCullough 317 00:18:06.809 --> 00:18:08.289 and all the boys were all playing for that. They 318 00:18:08.309 --> 00:18:11.329 had a good team then. Billy Lammont was the manager, 319 00:18:11.369 --> 00:18:13.829 I was the assistant. And we go wee for a while, 320 00:18:13.849 --> 00:18:17.029 and I was coming across the Forth Brig. Fuck this. 321 00:18:18.369 --> 00:18:20.450 It's not for me, I'm standing up there after the game, 322 00:18:20.950 --> 00:18:25.309 slaughtering players for their performance. And it dawned on me, 323 00:18:25.410 --> 00:18:28.490 I was the worst fucking man in the park. And 324 00:18:28.549 --> 00:18:33.750 I did, I phoned my chairman at East England. I 325 00:18:33.769 --> 00:18:34.849 stopped at Aberkeen. 326 00:18:34.549 --> 00:18:36.359 On the way here, that's enough for me. 327 00:18:36.599 --> 00:18:38.599 Yeah. I'll give you the money you've given me for 328 00:18:38.619 --> 00:18:40.339 signing on. I can't remember what it was. I'll give 329 00:18:40.359 --> 00:18:43.700 you the money back. I'm not going to put myself 330 00:18:43.720 --> 00:18:49.369 through that again. And would you believe it? Stubby, who 331 00:18:49.410 --> 00:18:52.630 was a manager there. Dougie Houston was my mentor. He 332 00:18:52.670 --> 00:18:55.549 was the man that got me involved. He used to 333 00:18:55.589 --> 00:18:59.390 think I had some qualities to be a coach, right? Anyway, 334 00:18:59.490 --> 00:19:04.289 so it goes then. My life was changing a wee bit, 335 00:19:04.349 --> 00:19:06.430 I was like, I worked in the dockyard and my 336 00:19:06.450 --> 00:19:09.230 plate had betrayed. And I got promotion there, I was 337 00:19:09.289 --> 00:19:12.789 an estimator. It was a good job, great job. I 338 00:19:12.829 --> 00:19:15.539 started missing five or six Mondays because my knee was 339 00:19:15.559 --> 00:19:17.819 sore and I just packed in the football because I 340 00:19:18.099 --> 00:19:22.359 had a young family to keep. But the Easterling thing, seriously. 341 00:19:23.039 --> 00:19:27.130 Stubby came in, phoned me at night. Dick, Stubby, I said, aye, 342 00:19:27.609 --> 00:19:30.609 what is this? He says, he'll be the first coach 343 00:19:30.630 --> 00:19:33.500 I've ever paid for. I said, aye, what's up? He says, uh, 344 00:19:34.029 --> 00:19:38.119 I agreed four thousand pounds. What are you staring at? 345 00:19:38.140 --> 00:19:39.680 I said, right, well do you know what you're talking 346 00:19:39.700 --> 00:19:42.660 to me? I'm the fucking man. And I went to 347 00:19:42.680 --> 00:19:46.589 a fairground for a lot of money man on YouTube 348 00:19:46.609 --> 00:19:51.970 so I goes there and I always remember Stubby said 349 00:19:51.990 --> 00:19:56.930 to me Dick let's make this quite plain you have 350 00:19:56.990 --> 00:20:03.180 no plain right I goes there and would you believe 351 00:20:03.259 --> 00:20:07.680 it after a month Stubby leaves fucking Ray Trollers I 352 00:20:07.720 --> 00:20:10.519 mean Ray Trollers then we must have the youngest team, 353 00:20:10.640 --> 00:20:15.440 Colin Harris, Craig Rose, Paul Smith, Keith Wright, honestly, there 354 00:20:15.460 --> 00:20:18.660 must have to be eight players under 20. Because I 355 00:20:18.680 --> 00:20:23.589 was like, I doubted them all. Big Elvis, all the boys, 356 00:20:23.809 --> 00:20:29.549 Donald Urquhart, they had a reasonable side. But anyway, Bobby 357 00:20:29.589 --> 00:20:33.309 Wilson came in, Vicky, and I was here for three 358 00:20:33.329 --> 00:20:38.930 years and enjoyed it. I don't know why. When I left, 359 00:20:39.220 --> 00:20:41.819 Breakin' to answer your coaching thing. I get a phone 360 00:20:41.859 --> 00:20:47.200 call from David Will, who's the chairman of Breakin'. But equally, 361 00:20:47.220 --> 00:20:52.150 he was the president of FIFA. Did you know that? 362 00:20:52.170 --> 00:20:56.069 David Will was the president of FIFA. If you look 363 00:20:56.150 --> 00:21:00.309 at the records, I'll show you. And that's why people, 364 00:21:00.390 --> 00:21:04.059 for me, disrespected Breakin' at the time because we're fucking sorry. 365 00:21:04.079 --> 00:21:07.000 You know the world. Fitbon, he's a great guy. He's 366 00:21:07.059 --> 00:21:11.450 a great guy. His wife, Margaret, she's got dementia now, actually. Anyway, 367 00:21:11.470 --> 00:21:12.119 David was there. 368 00:21:12.519 --> 00:21:16.440 So he phones me up and says to me, Dick. 369 00:21:16.980 --> 00:21:23.349 We would like to offer you the reserting job at Breakin'. 370

00:21:24.980 --> 00:21:30.029 What do you think? Eh, neither. I'm no coach, right? 371 00:21:30.349 --> 00:21:33.029 I'm fine, thanks very much. Just take that coach and 372 00:21:33.049 --> 00:21:37.250 up your arse, right? So what happened was, He says, 373 00:21:37.309 --> 00:21:39.950 it's a pity then, he says, because Andy Roxford and 374 00:21:39.990 --> 00:21:44.200 Craig Brown are continually asking if Dick would like to 375 00:21:44.259 --> 00:21:48.180 come down because I did a, after dinner or some 376 00:21:48.240 --> 00:21:52.480 fucking thing, doing it at Largs one time. So I said, 377 00:21:52.839 --> 00:21:55.920 why are they asking for me, David? He says, well, 378 00:21:56.130 --> 00:22:00.910 to be honest with you, Dick, we can all help 379 00:22:00.950 --> 00:22:05.740 you with your finance and I'm sure we'll give you 380 00:22:05.769 --> 00:22:09.210 some out-of-pocket expenses. I'm starting to think, fuck, there was 381 00:22:09.250 --> 00:22:12.650 an article in the Daily Record that week that Largs 382 00:22:13.289 --> 00:22:17.650 was the busiest fucking town, right, in Scotland. Eight birds 383 00:22:17.690 --> 00:22:22.130 to one boy, right? I'm like, oh, fuck, I'll try that. 384 00:22:22.650 --> 00:22:26.410 And that's how it happened. I'm telling you now, when 385 00:22:26.450 --> 00:22:31.490 I went to Largs, I was never, ever, for instance, Celtic, 386 00:22:31.859 --> 00:22:35.220 didn't they support larks? They never had forgot they were that, 387 00:22:35.259 --> 00:22:38.339 they just thought they were bigger than all that. So 388 00:22:38.359 --> 00:22:39.299 this was you. 389 00:22:39.200 --> 00:22:42.460 Down doing the role with the SFA then at larks? 390 00:22:42.480 --> 00:22:44.819 Well no, I decided to go to larks. To do 391 00:22:44.839 --> 00:22:49.180 your badges? To do my badges. To see the birds? Aye, 392 00:22:50.200 --> 00:22:55.069 I wear the birds and badges. I go high larks, 393 00:22:56.650 --> 00:22:58.630 dare letting somebody else tell you how good you were right. 394 00:22:59.190 --> 00:23:02.670 So the next year, I went, as I say, I 395 00:23:02.710 --> 00:23:04.349 went and took the Australian shirt on the next year. 396 00:23:05.769 --> 00:23:07.269 I went and set my B licence and my A 397 00:23:07.289 --> 00:23:08.750 licence and all that nice thing. And I got a 398 00:23:08.759 --> 00:23:13.339 high mark. Right. Not any higher than anybody else. But 399 00:23:13.460 --> 00:23:16.259 I did reasonably well. Never ever thinking for a minute that, 400 00:23:17.019 --> 00:23:19.200 as I said to you, I lived my life and 401 00:23:20.019 --> 00:23:24.400 football wasn't the most important thing to me. My family 402 00:23:24.440 --> 00:23:26.160 was the most important thing to me. I mean that. 403 00:23:26.480 --> 00:23:27.799 And the job I had and all the rest of 404 00:23:27.819 --> 00:23:33.259 it was great and it taught you. However, John Ritchie 405 00:23:33.279 --> 00:23:36.619 takes over at Brecon, and he comes in for me 406 00:23:36.700 --> 00:23:41.549 for a row. And my boss, God bless him, there 407 00:23:41.569 --> 00:23:43.029 wasn't a night that goes by in my life that 408 00:23:43.049 --> 00:23:46.509 I didn't think about him. He was just the best 409 00:23:46.529 --> 00:23:48.869 guy I ever met in life. And I went with 410 00:23:49.549 --> 00:23:55.269 him as assistant manager. So I went for a row 411 00:23:56.490 --> 00:23:58.329 just because I was happy. There was something in my 412 00:23:58.349 --> 00:24:00.309 mind about being happy. 413 00:24:01.319 --> 00:24:03.980 All right, guys, we are here at the Drygate Brewery 414 00:24:04.059 --> 00:24:07.269 in Glasgow filming a couple of podcasts. We'd just like 415 00:24:07.309 --> 00:24:10.589 to tell you about the 29th of November. Drygate is 416 00:24:10.630 --> 00:24:13.430 throwing a massive St Andrew's Day party and trust us, 417 00:24:13.450 --> 00:24:15.829 you don't want to miss this one. We're talking proper 418 00:24:15.849 --> 00:24:19.549 Scottish celebrations, brilliant entertainment, tenants stout. 419 00:24:19.829 --> 00:24:22.210 Have you tried that? Not yet. Not yet. 420 00:24:22.250 --> 00:24:24.859 Sponsoring the day, charity involvement in an atmosphere that will 421 00:24:24.880 --> 00:24:25.579 be hard to beat. 422 00:24:26.059 --> 00:24:27.759 I think they've been giving St Paddy's Day one for 423 00:24:27.779 --> 00:24:29.200 their money, sir. They will be. 424 00:24:29.539 --> 00:24:31.980 So get your pals together, get your Scottish pride out 425 00:24:32.019 --> 00:24:37.220 and get yourselves down to the Drygate. Email hello at drygate.co.uk 426 00:24:37.549 --> 00:24:39.690 on at Drygate on Instagram as well. 427 00:24:39.750 --> 00:24:40.549 So get yourselves down. 428 00:24:40.910 --> 00:24:44.950 In my life, seriously, I come to them telling things 429 00:24:44.970 --> 00:24:48.849 on YouTube and that made a big, big difference to 430 00:24:48.869 --> 00:24:51.380 me in my life. And I've known when I look 431 00:24:51.390 --> 00:24:55.299 back now and all the 11 promotions we've won, we 432 00:24:55.339 --> 00:25:00.049 have won, That'll never be beaten, boys. Never in your lifetime, 433 00:25:00.130 --> 00:25:03.150 in your life, will that ever be beaten. Three teams up, 434 00:25:03.190 --> 00:25:06.750 three leagues. That'll just never happen. Okay, you can turn 435 00:25:06.769 --> 00:25:09.609 around and be a wee bit derogative and say, at 436 00:25:09.650 --> 00:25:12.660 that level, you tell me the difference between managing fucking 437 00:25:12.680 --> 00:25:17.220 Hallabee's Halls and managing Stelwick. You've still got to do 438 00:25:17.259 --> 00:25:19.640 the best of what you've got. And we know that, right? 439 00:25:20.420 --> 00:25:26.730 So that was the... Turned out to be... Wait, you 440 00:25:26.759 --> 00:25:29.759 wouldn't believe this. John left C.R. Smith, he was a 441 00:25:29.779 --> 00:25:32.759 salesman at

C.R. Smith, and because my brother Ian was 442 00:25:32.859 --> 00:25:37.140 a non-family director at C.R. Smith, and C.R. Smith sponsored 443 00:25:37.180 --> 00:25:42.049 Rangers and Celtic. Right? Oh, fucking what a deal that 444 00:25:42.069 --> 00:25:45.329 was for them. I mean, it was fabulous. Absolute fabulous. 445 00:25:46.410 --> 00:25:49.109 I always remember going to shoot a Celtic game with 446 00:25:49.150 --> 00:25:52.650 Barry Payton. Right? We were at them filming at the time, 447 00:25:52.859 --> 00:25:57.539 and your man, McCann, who's there? Right, Fergus McCann, aye. 448 00:25:58.119 --> 00:26:00.140 And we're all sitting there at the hospitality, him with 449 00:26:00.160 --> 00:26:02.009 Jerry Eadie, you know, and I say, you know, and 450 00:26:02.049 --> 00:26:06.009 me and Bert are sitting, fucking, going down, you know, 451 00:26:06.029 --> 00:26:08.890 in a game of football, you know. In walks McCann, 452 00:26:08.950 --> 00:26:11.849 Fergus McCann, with about six or seven entourage behind him. 453 00:26:12.450 --> 00:26:16.410 Everybody in the hospitality seat stopped eating and stood up 454 00:26:16.509 --> 00:26:20.769 and started fucking clapping. No me and Bert. We never 455 00:26:20.789 --> 00:26:23.430 missed a boogie and totty. We never missed a totty. 456 00:26:23.710 --> 00:26:28.730 I laugh like fuck at that all the time. So, coaching. 457 00:26:29.890 --> 00:26:38.900 I left, I bought a pub. Right? And I bought 458 00:26:38.920 --> 00:26:46.859 another one. And I'm feeling, as I've said, as a player, fine, happy. 459 00:26:47.460 --> 00:26:50.480 And then, I bought a pub, Delt joined us, and 460 00:26:50.539 --> 00:26:52.720 I found out from my fucking second, right? So I 461 00:26:52.759 --> 00:26:58.559 got my family, and what do you believe it? Me 462 00:26:58.599 --> 00:27:02.839 and Bert went to work at fucking CR Smith. My 463 00:27:02.859 --> 00:27:06.160 brother Ian, he got us a job, honestly, you never 464 00:27:06.180 --> 00:27:08.740 had a fucking job. Talk about the pits, and doing 465 00:27:08.759 --> 00:27:11.059 work in the fucking pit face. That's what it was 466 00:27:11.099 --> 00:27:14.019 like doing in fucking CR Smith, I'm telling you that. 467 00:27:14.059 --> 00:27:17.799 I was on this machine, fucking bumping holes all fucking 468 00:27:17.819 --> 00:27:20.349 day I was the fittest fucking boy I did all 469 00:27:20.380 --> 00:27:22.690 I did was pull his press down the fucking board 470 00:27:22.730 --> 00:27:26.750 holes with bits of angle bar my brother Ian would 471 00:27:26.769 --> 00:27:28.930 walk past me with his fucking Gucci suit on and 472 00:27:28.950 --> 00:27:31.029 we didn't even say hi ever to her or none 473 00:27:31.509 --> 00:27:35.170 it was my fucking John brother but well greatest story 474 00:27:35.230 --> 00:27:40.339 ever on night shift right we're only with a hundred 475 00:27:40.390 --> 00:27:44.400 fucking twenty pound a week right and there there's the 476

00:27:44.440 --> 00:27:48.750 funniest boy ever seeing your leg, you know, funny, the 477 00:27:48.789 --> 00:27:52.529 driest thing there, Bert comes to Valleyfield, and seeing Valleyfield, 478 00:27:52.549 --> 00:27:55.029 they didn't shake your hands, they just say, how's it going, 479 00:27:55.109 --> 00:27:58.059 look at this, they always want to punch you, I said, 480 00:27:58.079 --> 00:28:00.960 oh for fuck's sake, me and Bert are standing, anyway, 481 00:28:01.500 --> 00:28:04.279 the phone goes, half past five, I'm getting picked up 482 00:28:04.359 --> 00:28:08.440 at 26, to go to Nice, with Bert, I say, 483 00:28:08.480 --> 00:28:11.400 here's my fucking piece of box, it's made up with 484 00:28:11.440 --> 00:28:15.750 a ham sandwich, it's not a restator, Bert says, You 485 00:28:15.769 --> 00:28:16.390 starting up? 486 00:28:17.130 --> 00:28:21.640 I says, I've got a fucking dumb feeling, Joe. And 487 00:28:21.660 --> 00:28:26.299 she straight said to me, you're fucking coming with me. 488 00:28:27.119 --> 00:28:28.339 I says, are you kidding me? 489 00:28:28.779 --> 00:28:30.769 She says, no, and this is what you're doing. I says, well, 490 00:28:30.809 --> 00:28:33.470 I'll tell you, boys. I fucking went out the front green. 491 00:28:33.529 --> 00:28:36.869 I fucking booted that fucking peace box. The sea was 492 00:28:36.910 --> 00:28:39.890 going to catch it. I was fucking booting it. And 493 00:28:40.130 --> 00:28:43.029 the rest is history. When you think of it, by 494 00:28:43.049 --> 00:28:46.329 that time. But sorry, before... The reason I went with 495 00:28:46.369 --> 00:28:49.670 Bert was, I had the pub, and Bert and Wee Moe, 496 00:28:50.329 --> 00:28:54.380 I was Wee Moe's best man, right? And fucking Bert 497 00:28:54.410 --> 00:28:57.660 comes in to see me one night at the pub, right, 498 00:28:57.960 --> 00:29:02.720 I'm going to go with the Recyf juniors, pretty big lads, 499 00:29:03.720 --> 00:29:05.500 and I want you to come with me. I says, Bert, 500 00:29:05.539 --> 00:29:07.900 I got one night to have a fucking wee. Stick 501 00:29:07.920 --> 00:29:10.490 your fucking juniors up your arse. And then I thought, 502 00:29:10.509 --> 00:29:12.990 wouldn't he say no? Wouldn't he say no? A couple 503 00:29:13.049 --> 00:29:16.410 of these fucking Moe comes in, I said we're here 504 00:29:16.470 --> 00:29:18.190 as well, I'll work to get you in the honour 505 00:29:18.609 --> 00:29:19.930 of this. So I said right well go down there 506 00:29:20.230 --> 00:29:24.420 and we went down. Fucking phenomenal record Bert had at 507 00:29:24.480 --> 00:29:26.779 the juniors. I think we got to the quarter final 508 00:29:26.799 --> 00:29:31.279 of the Scottish Cup and we got to two cup finals, 509 00:29:31.319 --> 00:29:33.809 won the fucking driver of the cup. This was only 510 00:29:33.809 --> 00:29:38.079 two years, me and Bert, that was fucking fantastic, so, 511 00:29:39.220 --> 00:29:41.299 I had then left, and Bert had

left, and I 512 00:29:41.319 --> 00:29:45.240 think they went defunct, because of the finances, and, that's 513 00:29:45.259 --> 00:29:48.599 how Bert confirmed me, to go to Dunfellin, and you know, 514 00:29:49.960 --> 00:29:55.730 I can, with you guys, honestly, I could cut my finger, 515 00:29:56.609 --> 00:30:00.589 in nine years, how many training sessions, Bert took, And 516 00:30:00.609 --> 00:30:02.630 he says to himself, I took all the training. I 517 00:30:02.630 --> 00:30:07.140 took the training. That didn't make me better. His theory, 518 00:30:08.619 --> 00:30:11.339 and I'm telling you, you've been a miser. You've been 519 00:30:11.380 --> 00:30:17.779 a miser. His theory was brilliant. And I lived with that. 520 00:30:19.019 --> 00:30:20.920 Why would I take the training? Dick's better than me. 521 00:30:21.220 --> 00:30:27.109 You could see that publicly. I said, hang on. Nobody, 522 00:30:27.289 --> 00:30:30.279 and I mean nobody, you boys can see that. the 523 00:30:30.319 --> 00:30:35.250 best I've ever heard at fucking half-time. You remember, you've 524 00:30:35.289 --> 00:30:38.049 got 15 minutes to analyse the fucking, what's wrong and 525 00:30:38.069 --> 00:30:40.390 what's right, and the opposition, and the strengths and the weaknesses, 526 00:30:40.410 --> 00:30:45.710 and Peyton was fucking brilliant. And that was because, he, 527 00:30:46.259 --> 00:30:48.299 and they dug it, and the rest of that. Bert 528 00:30:48.319 --> 00:30:50.799 would go, fucking sort him out, fucking, that was me, 529 00:30:50.880 --> 00:30:53.240 I was out fucking arguing with all the players. And 530 00:30:53.259 --> 00:30:57.720 Bert was just, evening training. Evening training, Bert would say 531 00:30:57.740 --> 00:31:02.720 to me, I think I've told you this, Watch that cunt, McCarthy. Hey, 532 00:31:02.799 --> 00:31:05.039 watch Martin Amara. He's no buzz in the day, which 533 00:31:05.099 --> 00:31:10.400 is very unusual, but he's a bad example. Watch fucking Robertson, 534 00:31:10.440 --> 00:31:13.619 lazy bastard, and all the rest of it. And I 535 00:31:13.660 --> 00:31:17.140 was a very aggressive coach. Hey, you, you're a cunt. 536 00:31:17.240 --> 00:31:21.180 Jack will tell you. Then talk about Alec Ferguson's teacups. 537 00:31:21.200 --> 00:31:22.680 You're a cunt. You fell out with me, you've got 538 00:31:22.700 --> 00:31:27.950 a problem, right? And I learned to become better than 539 00:31:27.990 --> 00:31:30.589 what I was. Just being no being so aggressive. Yeah. 540 00:31:31.089 --> 00:31:34.089 you know, but Peyton could fucking cut you in two 541 00:31:34.710 --> 00:31:37.430 with one-liners and fucking, didn't he? Top first fucker, he 542 00:31:37.450 --> 00:31:41.960 just used to hear you. So I learned from Burt, 543 00:31:42.039 --> 00:31:45.059 and I didn't want the Dunfermline show. Well, I wouldn't 544 00:31:45.079 --> 00:31:47.119 say I didn't want it, I was always getting the 545 00:31:47.160 --> 00:31:52.740

Dunfermline show. They taught me, Burt, where they come, Burt, Peyton, 546 00:31:52.779 --> 00:31:54.920 Roy Wood and so on, they all knew I was 547 00:31:54.960 --> 00:31:57.480 going to take the Dunfermline show. But I didn't even, 548 00:31:57.599 --> 00:32:00.180 they didn't want me going. And I thought Burt left 549 00:32:00.220 --> 00:32:03.079 far too early. He started, you know, he was getting 550 00:32:03.119 --> 00:32:04.440 a bit of a stick in there and I said, 551 00:32:04.480 --> 00:32:08.269 Bert's that much a gentleman. He thought the best thing 552 00:32:08.309 --> 00:32:11.009 to do was leave the club and the club would benefit. 553 00:32:11.470 --> 00:32:13.789 And I didn't see it like that at all. I 554 00:32:13.809 --> 00:32:17.029 didn't see it like that. And of course, in the meantime, 555 00:32:18.690 --> 00:32:19.430 we sold Jackie. 556 00:32:19.470 --> 00:32:20.529 It was about the same time. 557 00:32:20.750 --> 00:32:24.759 It was about the same time. Around about that time. Well, 558 00:32:24.779 --> 00:32:30.279 Jackie played for Chalky right back. And I fell in 559 00:32:30.299 --> 00:32:30.859 love with him. 560 00:32:31.509 --> 00:32:33.390 What's your first memories of this guy then? 561 00:32:33.690 --> 00:32:33.779 Aye. 562 00:32:33.990 --> 00:32:35.450 Coming in. 563 00:32:35.490 --> 00:32:38.839 Oh, he was here when we went there. And there 564 00:32:38.880 --> 00:32:41.359 was not a fucking problem. I fell in love with 565 00:32:41.400 --> 00:32:44.500 Jake and that's still to this day very friendly and 566 00:32:45.039 --> 00:32:48.740 Andrew Todd and him were fucking great. I can't remember 567 00:32:48.779 --> 00:32:53.599 where I'm fucking staying honest. Fucking dirty. Jake would only 568 00:32:53.619 --> 00:32:56.920 be about fucking 19 or something. Eh? 18 or 19? No, 569 00:32:57.019 --> 00:33:00.650 I was... Younger? 20, 21, aye? 570 00:33:00.809 --> 00:33:05.809 It ended up being my kind of stag, if you like. 571 00:33:05.950 --> 00:33:07.650 I was always getting married when you were in a wedding. 572 00:33:07.670 --> 00:33:11.109 It was fucking hilarious. Bert says to me, watch these 573 00:33:11.170 --> 00:33:14.339 two cunts. I says, what are you talking about? Matt 574 00:33:14.410 --> 00:33:17.039 and Amara and Todd, I didn't see them at all. 575 00:33:17.059 --> 00:33:20.480 They're wanting these fucking, they're always wanting money. What the 576 00:33:20.519 --> 00:33:24.759 fuck are they doing? They're no gambling. They were on 577 00:33:24.779 --> 00:33:29.279 these fucking wee scooters. It was costing a fortune. Fucking hilarious. 578 00:33:30.839 --> 00:33:35.849 But we did, Jake. I've written in this book where, 579 00:33:38.029 --> 00:33:41.269 and I'm not flattering and I'm not embarrassing Jacqui, who 580 00:33:41.289 --> 00:33:43.619 was the best driver I had and it was Jacqui. 581 00:33:44.390 --> 00:33:45.359 Do you know why Simon? 582 00:33:46.920 --> 00:33:53.099 Pure and simple, natural enthusiasm for life, more importantly for football. 583 00:33:53.619 --> 00:33:55.640 He had a fucking natural, I don't have an opinion, 584 00:33:57.369 --> 00:33:59.349 You get that after you play 10 years at Celtic 585 00:33:59.430 --> 00:34:01.630 and you go into management. When I had him, he 586 00:34:01.650 --> 00:34:06.109 was a fucking young laddie, right? And a natural enthusiasm. 587 00:34:06.410 --> 00:34:11.260 Natural meaning, it's going to get better. Same with your ability. 588 00:34:11.280 --> 00:34:15.400 You need not ever deny your ability at Celtic Park. 589 00:34:15.420 --> 00:34:18.099 These are the days when you leave back and you think, fucking, 590 00:34:18.139 --> 00:34:22.929 I never agreed. Anyway, we had fuck all at Dunfermline. 591 00:34:23.130 --> 00:34:26.230 No money at all. We didnae. We signed fucking Evo 592 00:34:26.389 --> 00:34:29.110 on a free. Honestly, I can't remember who the fuck 593 00:34:29.130 --> 00:34:31.960 we signed. We got rid of Mosey. We got rid 594 00:34:31.980 --> 00:34:35.420 of fucking Billy. Billy Davis, right. Davis. We got rid 595 00:34:35.480 --> 00:34:37.179 of the boy who went to Marlborough with a kind 596 00:34:37.219 --> 00:34:41.940 of midfield player fucking check. I can't remember. Anyway, because 597 00:34:41.960 --> 00:34:47.119 we couldn't afford them, right? Scott Weach. Scott Weach. Aye. 598 00:34:47.789 --> 00:34:49.889 We get, you know, this is what we had today. 599 00:34:51.090 --> 00:34:54.090 Signed fucking Stevie Campbell came. I can't remember a pair 600 00:34:54.150 --> 00:34:57.800 of bits. Evo fucking came as a free transfer from Montrose. 601 00:34:59.340 --> 00:35:04.400 We signed Toddy for two fucking grand for Kelty. What 602 00:35:04.460 --> 00:35:07.760 a fucking signing that, honestly. He was big. Toddy was 603 00:35:07.820 --> 00:35:08.570 a big player. 604 00:35:08.610 --> 00:35:10.670 He was still there when I came to Dunfermline. 605 00:35:10.690 --> 00:35:12.250 Aye, he would be, aye. He would be. He was 606 00:35:12.329 --> 00:35:14.829 a good signing. Well, we had some fucking great time. 607 00:35:14.849 --> 00:35:16.849 We had a great time. Do you know what we did? 608 00:35:17.550 --> 00:35:19.329 There was quite a lot of senior players with you. 609 00:35:19.789 --> 00:35:22.769 Aye, well, that's... So, we were really... You know, we 610 00:35:22.789 --> 00:35:23.269 had the baby. 611 00:35:23.920 --> 00:35:26.159 That was, actually that was the one thing that I 612 00:35:26.179 --> 00:35:29.239 was kind of, you know, glad that I'd left at 613 00:35:29.280 --> 00:35:32.579 that point. Because I left in October and then Norrie 614 00:35:32.639 --> 00:35:37.400 passed in January. And I couldn't imagine being in the club, 615 00:35:37.800 --> 00:35:40.639 you know, at that point. Having gone in every day. 616 00:35:40.940 --> 00:35:42.960 It must have been really tough for you. That must 617 00:35:42.980 --> 00:35:45.659 have been

the hardest thing in your career at that time. 618 00:35:45.840 --> 00:35:52.139 I tell a story about it. Bertie, I loved fucking Norrie. 619 00:35:53.329 --> 00:35:55.809 He joked he didn't play nobody. No, he didn't. And 620 00:35:55.829 --> 00:35:59.889 he was a cunt. Anyway, see Bert. See the day 621 00:36:03.260 --> 00:36:09.880 that it all happened. I fucking looked after the players. 622 00:36:09.940 --> 00:36:15.900 Half the fucking players. Bert didn't like fucking players going 623 00:36:15.940 --> 00:36:17.420 out to see him and all the rest of it. 624 00:36:18.900 --> 00:36:21.119 He'd always turn and say, I fucking see Dak. He'll 625 00:36:21.139 --> 00:36:24.849 fucking sort it out. He'll sort it out. And if 626 00:36:24.869 --> 00:36:27.190 the police had fucking done something wrong or something, I would, 627 00:36:28.170 --> 00:36:31.090 I'd already all fucking sort it out, and I would 628 00:36:31.130 --> 00:36:33.869 tell Bert a different fucking story. But Bert knows the 629 00:36:33.889 --> 00:36:41.510 fucking crack, you know. But that day, the minibus left 630 00:36:41.590 --> 00:36:44.760 at fucking 10 o'clock, right? Well, I was on it, 631 00:36:44.789 --> 00:36:46.849 or no fucking way I was on it. I blew 632 00:36:46.889 --> 00:36:49.690 the whistle and said, hey, fucking bus, what's going on 633 00:36:49.710 --> 00:36:53.849 with you? Maybe fucking 10 past 10. I'm still up 634 00:36:53.869 --> 00:36:56.199 there in the bus the way down. So I'm fucking 635 00:36:56.219 --> 00:37:03.179 doing the warm-ups. Fucking phone goes. I'm going to the door. 636 00:37:06.099 --> 00:37:08.039 One of the officers shouts, I can't remember who the 637 00:37:08.119 --> 00:37:09.010 fuck it was. 638 00:37:09.570 --> 00:37:12.329 Dick, there's a phone call here. You need to take it. 639 00:37:13.289 --> 00:37:18.489 It's at 10 past 10. There's one car. Dick. I says, 640 00:37:18.670 --> 00:37:21.969 where is the gun? Where is he? I'm going to 641 00:37:22.210 --> 00:37:24.210 tell him to go fucking straight down to the train 642 00:37:24.429 --> 00:37:26.150 and I'll bring some fucking kit with him because that's 643 00:37:26.170 --> 00:37:30.030 what you do. Come on. No, I don't. Nobody can 644 00:37:30.050 --> 00:37:33.659 see where he is. Nobody's been paid. Not a fucking, 645 00:37:34.059 --> 00:37:36.039 he came out of the crackers, he's a fucking alarm 646 00:37:36.059 --> 00:37:39.239 staff and not wanting to be paid. And he's worried. 647 00:37:41.519 --> 00:37:45.199 And I says, oh for fuck's sake, I said, look John, 648 00:37:45.219 --> 00:37:47.159 see when he gets here, fucking get him down there 649 00:37:47.179 --> 00:37:49.170 and I'll cover his arse down. I'll tell him he's 650 00:37:49.190 --> 00:37:50.849 got a niggling wee injury and he's doing a wee 651 00:37:50.869 --> 00:37:54.309 run round the park. And that's the consequence. The next 652 00:37:54.329 --> 00:37:57.710 thing I knew, when I come back, that he had 653 00:37:57.750 --> 00:38:03.179 passed away. And I'll fucking, I can write a book 654 00:38:03.219 --> 00:38:06.880 about fucking Norrie, I can assure you. But a beautiful, 655 00:38:06.940 --> 00:38:09.519 beautiful woman. He went to fucking, he went to Spain, 656 00:38:09.639 --> 00:38:12.869 that's the bug. He went to Spain, that's the bug. 657 00:38:14.099 --> 00:38:16.139 He was knackin' the boys' fuckin' knickers in the rest 658 00:38:16.199 --> 00:38:18.760 of the year. He was a clarty big brother. He 659 00:38:18.780 --> 00:38:21.829 was a clarty clint, wasn't he? He was a clarty 660 00:38:21.909 --> 00:38:24.130 big brother. A great, great, Bert loved him because he 661 00:38:24.150 --> 00:38:26.010 was a great player. Great competitor. 662 00:38:26.949 --> 00:38:30.349 I just remember you'd just signed for Celtic and we'd 663 00:38:30.429 --> 00:38:31.170 a night through. 664 00:38:31.190 --> 00:38:34.170 At his club, Harry. Nico's went up to the club. 665 00:38:34.329 --> 00:38:36.210 Right, and you introduced me to him. That was the 666 00:38:36.269 --> 00:38:37.329 one before. 667 00:38:37.349 --> 00:38:37.889 Was that so? 668 00:38:38.610 --> 00:38:41.530 So, Jack had just signed for Celtic and obviously we 669 00:38:41.570 --> 00:38:42.460 got on well and. 670 00:38:42.900 --> 00:38:45.380 Thank you for inviting me through we went to his 671 00:38:46.139 --> 00:38:51.099 nightclub and he introduced me to Norrie in probably. 672 00:38:50.579 --> 00:38:54.579 November, December time he went and passed in the January 673 00:38:55.260 --> 00:39:00.039 I left in October who was his big pal? Winker 674 00:39:00.099 --> 00:39:02.119 introduced us that night I remember and then not long 675 00:39:02.199 --> 00:39:02.860 after that. 676 00:39:02.840 --> 00:39:07.000 Him and Winker and Norrie couldn't put a deal on 677 00:39:07.039 --> 00:39:08.780 a sugar moose how the fuck we had three pups 678 00:39:10.099 --> 00:39:13.909 seriously but they were they went and did everything you 679 00:39:13.929 --> 00:39:15.559 know and. 680 00:39:15.280 --> 00:39:17.000 Is that your hardest thing to have dealt with in 681 00:39:17.039 --> 00:39:22.599 management then that obviously loss of a player that's tragic. 682 00:39:22.400 --> 00:39:25.150 In terms of losing a guy like him. 683 00:39:27.989 --> 00:39:32.639 I I dealt with it I went to the funeral 684 00:39:32.679 --> 00:39:35.360 but I didn't go out on the park Bert didn't 685 00:39:35.380 --> 00:39:42.119 he couldn't say a word one of the things that 686 00:39:42.139 --> 00:39:46.420 you can talk about it was the game after we 687 00:39:46.440 --> 00:39:50.530 went to Clyde Bank and we were fucking four long up. 688 00:39:51.170 --> 00:39:53.289 They put it back to 4-4 and we fucking scored 689 00:39:53.309 --> 00:39:56.210 in the last minute to make it 5-4. It was 690 00:39:56.269 --> 00:39:57.829 not it winning the game that day, everyone had them 691 00:39:57.849 --> 00:40:00.909 said that.

They were all giving it a hard fucking, 692 00:40:01.170 --> 00:40:03.670 at 4-4 somebody got injured and the players come out 693 00:40:03.690 --> 00:40:07.590 and start fucking nodding, seriously. And it was just the 694 00:40:07.730 --> 00:40:11.369 strangest fucking thing you've ever seen in your life, you know. 695 00:40:12.530 --> 00:40:17.320 I've had a few close calls in my life with 696 00:40:17.360 --> 00:40:19.360 my friends Aye, as a. 697 00:40:19.340 --> 00:40:22.099 Coach, yeah, you would have to deal with that. 698 00:40:23.099 --> 00:40:23.639 It's all the. 699 00:40:23.579 --> 00:40:25.219 Stuff away for the game, eh? It's all the stuff 700 00:40:25.239 --> 00:40:27.440 that's away for. 701 00:40:26.900 --> 00:40:30.719 The football side. Aye. When you think he done fell 702 00:40:30.760 --> 00:40:36.010 on Simon, I'd make no matter. I mean, that fucking 703 00:40:36.030 --> 00:40:36.630 left all the. 704 00:40:36.530 --> 00:40:41.030 Debt off of rugby just fucking, you know. 705 00:40:41.829 --> 00:40:45.090 Fucking Bob McCullough, 450 fucking grand to go to Aberdeen. 706 00:40:45.369 --> 00:40:49.210 I always remember I sent him to fucking The agent, 707 00:40:49.269 --> 00:40:54.150 I think it was Bill Mimardo, was it? Bursy says, 708 00:40:54.210 --> 00:40:58.420 who's that Dick, who's that? It's Bill, it's fucking Bob's dad. 709 00:40:58.440 --> 00:41:04.559 Big Bob McCulloch, right? Dick, Dick, go and sort that out, 710 00:41:04.579 --> 00:41:07.619 can't you? So he goes, yeah, he says, right, Bill. Oh, 711 00:41:07.659 --> 00:41:09.730 my new Dick, this is what he said to me. 712 00:41:10.300 --> 00:41:14.900 We're negotiating a fucking deal. You're going to look after 713 00:41:14.960 --> 00:41:19.019 my boy? because he's needing money, and you look at him, 714 00:41:19.119 --> 00:41:21.599 and I kind of pissed myself laughing when I went in, 715 00:41:21.619 --> 00:41:24.300 you know. He got a few pubs. Bob was a great, 716 00:41:24.760 --> 00:41:28.280 great player. If he hadn't had his intestines and everything off, 717 00:41:28.380 --> 00:41:30.969 I can tell you, he would have been a classic, eh? 718 00:41:31.690 --> 00:41:34.409 You mind it, Bob? Aye. Scopical. And then, of course, 719 00:41:36.150 --> 00:41:39.909 we signed fucking Andy Smart. For 75,000, he broke his fucking, 720 00:41:40.289 --> 00:41:42.789 he broke his fucking leg in the first fucking game. 721 00:41:43.469 --> 00:41:47.030 And then, we settled today, Where did he go? Didn't 722 00:41:47.070 --> 00:41:48.679 you meet him or did he go to England? He 723 00:41:48.699 --> 00:41:51.420 went to Borsford, I'm talking about. Fuck it. He went 724 00:41:51.440 --> 00:41:55.760 to Bradford. Why I wasn't, Bradford could shout. I'm telling you, 725 00:41:55.780 --> 00:42:02.360 they made a few bob, right? You can talk about 726 00:42:02.400 --> 00:42:06.550 Jimmy Collins with any day you want. I would also 727 00:42:06.570 --> 00:42:12.690 say to you, we got promotion. That was fucking serious. 728 00:42:13.730 --> 00:42:17.489 I remember day before the game, playing AirJet at fucking 729 00:42:17.550 --> 00:42:19.849 East End Park, caught a one-tee, playing in the league, 730 00:42:19.889 --> 00:42:21.809 never been in the fucking live in the telly before 731 00:42:21.829 --> 00:42:24.449 in my life, Meris Baird, Meris used to be on 732 00:42:24.469 --> 00:42:29.750 the Brady, fucking, phone watty, I says, I'm no fucking 733 00:42:29.809 --> 00:42:32.070 phone watty, they just won seven in a row, you know, 734 00:42:32.170 --> 00:42:35.050 what do you want me to phone watty? Well, me 735 00:42:35.070 --> 00:42:38.280 ain't nobody doing something, He's fucking been in this position before. 736 00:42:38.300 --> 00:42:42.719 Anything goes to make it an advantage. Oh, for fuck's sake. 737 00:42:42.820 --> 00:42:44.909 Phone's up, what are you on? What are you on? 738 00:42:45.429 --> 00:42:49.010 Fucking Perks, get away, phone you. Why didn't you tell 739 00:42:49.050 --> 00:42:52.289 me today? Is there any advice you'd give us to 740 00:42:52.329 --> 00:42:53.769 give us a wee advantage? 741 00:42:53.809 --> 00:42:55.789 He says, Dick, I can't tell you anything. He says, 742 00:42:55.869 --> 00:42:57.699 I've never managed at the diddy level. 743 00:43:01.500 --> 00:43:03.940 Oh, fuck, he picked himself up. Now tell me about it. 744 00:43:03.960 --> 00:43:07.690 He picked himself up as well. Fucking absolutely. You can 745 00:43:07.710 --> 00:43:11.050 get away with that sort of stuff, Hugh. Hi, guys. 746 00:43:11.719 --> 00:43:14.019 As you probably well know by now, we have signed 747 00:43:14.119 --> 00:43:19.059 up for the London Marathon next April, and we have 748 00:43:19.119 --> 00:43:22.059 some fantastic people supporting us, groups supporting us. 749 00:43:22.079 --> 00:43:24.340 We're doing it for a fantastic cause, or two causes. 750 00:43:24.360 --> 00:43:24.980 Who are we doing it for? 751 00:43:25.079 --> 00:43:30.130 We're doing it for Headway UK. And the Concilium Sports Foundation. Yep. 752 00:43:30.369 --> 00:43:33.909 So we're going to have some updated videos of our 753 00:43:33.989 --> 00:43:37.130 progress and our training and everything else it takes to 754 00:43:37.170 --> 00:43:38.349 get us over the line. 755 00:43:38.789 --> 00:43:40.750 He's emphasised that time doesn't matter. 756 00:43:40.769 --> 00:43:42.110 I probably agree. 757 00:43:42.719 --> 00:43:43.820 As long as we complete it. 758 00:43:43.989 --> 00:43:49.599 There'll be a link in the bio for any charity donations. 759 00:43:49.900 --> 00:43:51.320 We're going to be raising as much money as we 760 00:43:51.360 --> 00:43:54.440 can over the next period of time. Our training starts 761 00:43:54.579 --> 00:43:58.539 very soon. And yeah, look forward to some updates on here. 762 00:43:58.780 --> 00:44:06.360 Hopefully no injuries. And then, the crazy thing. Seriously. I 763 00:44:06.400 --> 00:44:08.860

suppose I write, I've got that book coming out with 764 00:44:08.880 --> 00:44:12.389 the bunnets back and you's all got to fucking mention 765 00:44:12.429 --> 00:44:13.829 certainly the.... 766 00:44:16.829 --> 00:44:18.750 I got sacked at Dunfermline and we're tough as a 767 00:44:18.750 --> 00:44:19.210 fucking league. 768 00:44:20.449 --> 00:44:26.329 Right? And I got sacked for a reason. And nobody, well, 769 00:44:26.690 --> 00:44:29.239 I'm telling you now, you can fucking make it public 770 00:44:29.300 --> 00:44:33.519 if you like. I got a phone call from Roy Woodrow. 771 00:44:34.460 --> 00:44:39.380 My chairman, Roy Woodrow owned the football club and he 772 00:44:39.420 --> 00:44:43.340 was a gentleman. He always knew Bert was teaching me 773 00:44:43.360 --> 00:44:48.139 to be a fucking manager. He phones me up and says, Dick, 774 00:44:48.610 --> 00:44:51.349 I've got good news and I've certainly got bad news. 775 00:44:52.090 --> 00:44:55.860 I've sold all my shares. To fucking... Was that the 776 00:44:55.880 --> 00:44:56.300 good news? 777 00:44:57.260 --> 00:45:00.000 To John fucking. 778 00:45:00.760 --> 00:45:05.840 What's his name fucking? Matt Sturton? No, Gavin Matt Sturton 779 00:45:05.860 --> 00:45:09.260 was there. What was his name? John fucking... Anyway, I 780 00:45:09.820 --> 00:45:15.940 can't remember. It's generally done fairly. I said, what's the 781 00:45:15.960 --> 00:45:20.090 bad news? He says, he's not wanting you. I said, 782 00:45:20.119 --> 00:45:23.610 what do you mean? No, he's wanting Leishman and Craig Robertson. 783 00:45:25.039 --> 00:45:27.019 They used to work with him at the site and 784 00:45:27.079 --> 00:45:33.320 all the rest of the time. Yorkshire? Yorkshire. You fucking 785 00:45:33.340 --> 00:45:38.690 can't believe that. I'm talking about the league. So, we 786 00:45:38.710 --> 00:45:41.570 go beat fucking, we go beat 3-1 that day at 787 00:45:41.590 --> 00:45:44.750 St Mirren, at St Mirren. And that was our first 788 00:45:44.769 --> 00:45:47.190 defeat for the season. St Mirren went on to win 789 00:45:47.230 --> 00:45:50.739 it with nine points and Dunfermline got up in second place. 790 00:45:50.800 --> 00:45:53.179 Big old difference. Nine points behind them. 791 00:45:53.679 --> 00:45:56.250 Jimmy Calderwood in charge. And they're never ever. 792 00:45:57.030 --> 00:45:59.130 That day we got beat up, I fucking said my piece, 793 00:45:59.369 --> 00:46:00.860 and I come out the fucking side and told you, 794 00:46:00.869 --> 00:46:03.730 I couldn't join yours, and he was fucking like... I 795 00:46:03.769 --> 00:46:07.090 didn't like that. You ask what you are, you fucking protect. 796 00:46:07.170 --> 00:46:10.210 I'm saying it, he's right, he's fucksy. He's the easiest thing, 797 00:46:10.250 --> 00:46:12.409 he was a fucking... They're going to get any cunt 798 00:46:12.429 --> 00:46:13.909 better than me to keep them up, but it's not 799 00:46:13.929 --> 00:46:18.030 going to happen. But anyway, it's another story. And then 800 00:46:18.090 --> 00:46:23.090 I sit back, and when we then go... 19 managers 801 00:46:23.219 --> 00:46:29.900 in 21 years. 19 managers in 21 year and I 802 00:46:30.000 --> 00:46:30.920 never got an interview. 803 00:46:32.860 --> 00:46:36.659 After my record. I know the reasons for that. 804 00:46:38.360 --> 00:46:41.880 People like Dom Fellin, they're still running the book. They 805 00:46:41.900 --> 00:46:44.400 like what fucking Dick says to them because I tell 806 00:46:44.420 --> 00:46:45.159 them the fucking truth. 807 00:46:45.619 --> 00:46:46.300 When's your book out? 808 00:46:47.239 --> 00:46:48.860 It should be out in the next couple of weeks. 809 00:46:49.699 --> 00:46:50.320 What's it called? 810 00:46:50.900 --> 00:46:53.239 The Bonnet's Back. I won't tell you about the book. 811 00:46:54.039 --> 00:46:55.280 I won't throw it away, isn't it? 812 00:46:55.969 --> 00:46:59.480 I mean the big surprise for. 813 00:46:59.400 --> 00:47:00.320 Me you'll be paying £ 9. 814 00:47:00.079 --> 00:47:04.099 99 I'll get in bargain boots. 815 00:47:02.880 --> 00:47:06.800 You can pick me up and take me out again 816 00:47:06.820 --> 00:47:09.579 he usually picks me up at the door and drives 817 00:47:10.619 --> 00:47:15.309 me home sorry it's for dementia time and my mum 818 00:47:15.389 --> 00:47:19.130 and dad died and we decided. 819 00:47:20.309 --> 00:47:23.090 I can't even believe it because fucking Boney you know 820 00:47:23.110 --> 00:47:26.789 I always say my Boney's best man Boney I'm away, 821 00:47:27.489 --> 00:47:33.260 a fortnight ago, three weeks ago, they've asked me to, 822 00:47:33.599 --> 00:47:36.920 Stirling Council have asked me to present the Hall of 823 00:47:36.960 --> 00:47:44.639 Fame trophies to four players, Boney, Billy Bremner, Alex Smith 824 00:47:45.070 --> 00:47:48.530 and Dalton Ferguson. They fucking asked me. So I went 825 00:47:48.550 --> 00:47:51.070 through them, what a fucking great night it was, but Boney, 826 00:47:51.889 --> 00:47:54.739 Boney's a funny, well you, I don't know. It's the 827 00:47:54.860 --> 00:47:56.849 funniest way you've ever met your fucking... There never a 828 00:47:56.929 --> 00:47:58.690 night goes by that I didn't say goodnight, Jim. 829 00:47:58.710 --> 00:47:59.190 Don't think at all. 830 00:48:00.590 --> 00:48:04.809 Settle down, Dick. Dick. There's no decision to be made 831 00:48:04.829 --> 00:48:07.110 because there's no decision to be made. You can't used 832 00:48:07.130 --> 00:48:09.789 to say that to me every day. The fuck's all 833 00:48:09.869 --> 00:48:14.849 that about? Jimmy was going to you and... Fucking ripped 834 00:48:14.889 --> 00:48:17.570 him up with a piece of... He doesn't mean that. 835 00:48:17.610 --> 00:48:20.849 I love to go out and fucking park in a 836 00:48:20.849 --> 00:48:24.090 bag of balls. I'm telling you. So I've no complaints 837 00:48:24.150 --> 00:48:25.530 about the boys. 838

00:48:26.429 --> 00:48:27.469 So all the. 839 00:48:27.369 --> 00:48:31.429 Years, all the characters that you've had, so when you 840 00:48:31.449 --> 00:48:35.070 started to today, obviously it's been, what, two weeks since 841 00:48:35.090 --> 00:48:40.190 you've left East Fife. The difference in football from that time, 842 00:48:40.590 --> 00:48:43.289 in terms of the player, having to deal with them 843 00:48:43.369 --> 00:48:47.750 in management, there must be, I mean, we finished, what, 844 00:48:47.750 --> 00:48:49.159 10 years ago, management? 845 00:48:49.909 --> 00:48:54.769 I was skin of it. Aye. I remember talking to 846 00:48:54.789 --> 00:48:55.420 you a lot about it. 847 00:48:55.429 --> 00:48:58.769 Absolutely scurred about it. I mean, even in 10 years, 848 00:48:58.789 --> 00:49:01.960 I mean, you look at the stuff now, like Martin 849 00:49:01.980 --> 00:49:06.719 O'Neill was called a dinosaur because these players want to 850 00:49:06.780 --> 00:49:08.500 hold their hands and tell them where to play and 851 00:49:08.519 --> 00:49:11.300 where to do this or where to pass it, the philosophies. 852 00:49:11.929 --> 00:49:15.769 Whereas going back to when I played under guys like 853 00:49:15.789 --> 00:49:19.610 yourself and Bert and even Martin, it was getting the 854 00:49:19.630 --> 00:49:22.340 best of it. players you knew your job but now 855 00:49:22.380 --> 00:49:25.000 you've got to hold the hands I mean that's obviously 856 00:49:25.099 --> 00:49:28.980 even harder at part time than full time you know 857 00:49:29.000 --> 00:49:32.260 what I mean so for now the modern player has 858 00:49:32.300 --> 00:49:35.539 to be told where to pass the ball where to 859 00:49:35.679 --> 00:49:38.550 receive it what to do how to you know did 860 00:49:38.570 --> 00:49:43.199 that know Does that not put you off? It's even 861 00:49:43.239 --> 00:49:45.199 harder when you go down the levels. See, you've got 862 00:49:45.219 --> 00:49:47.429 the ready-made players. You can say, right, this is what 863 00:49:47.449 --> 00:49:50.489 we're doing today. But when you go down, for you 864 00:49:50.510 --> 00:49:53.710 to stay in the game for so long, you must be. 865 00:49:53.710 --> 00:49:58.889 42 years. Could you believe that? No. I get your point. 866 00:49:58.989 --> 00:50:03.449 I get your point. Don't forget when I'm managing you guys, 867 00:50:04.989 --> 00:50:08.050 you guys had an in-built natural enthusiasm for the game. Mm-hmm. 868 00:50:08.579 --> 00:50:10.719 And you knew you had to do things. If I 869 00:50:10.739 --> 00:50:13.559 played Simon, and I played him when the wide player, 870 00:50:13.760 --> 00:50:15.300 Simon had to do something with the ball when he 871 00:50:15.340 --> 00:50:18.699 got it. But the big thing you've got nowadays is 872 00:50:19.300 --> 00:50:21.659 the Simon Donalds of this fucking world have got to 873 00:50:21.699 --> 00:50:24.570 go back to the park. I know. And it's alien 874 00:50:24.610 -->

00:50:26.349 to them. I'm not saying it's alien to Simon because 875 00:50:26.409 --> 00:50:29.309 he doesn't want to be there. He's got something in 876 00:50:29.329 --> 00:50:32.309 his forward play that could fucking give us a goal 877 00:50:32.329 --> 00:50:36.829 scoring opportunity. Whereas you in your time, you played at 878 00:50:36.889 --> 00:50:40.630 a time where Overlapping fucking full-back, you see. Fucking five 879 00:50:40.690 --> 00:50:44.159 at the back, fucking, honestly. You just bomb fucking forward 880 00:50:44.179 --> 00:50:47.940 all day. See, now, I'm sitting watching the game of 881 00:50:47.960 --> 00:50:50.739 football everywhere I go now. I sit and watch the 882 00:50:50.760 --> 00:50:56.159 telly every night. We need goalkeepers that can play fucking one-twos. 883 00:50:56.179 --> 00:50:58.719 You're passing the ball back to fucking goalies. And for me, 884 00:50:58.739 --> 00:51:02.599 that's only given an opportunity for the opposition to press. 885 00:51:02.739 --> 00:51:03.059 And then. 886 00:51:05.360 --> 00:51:08.039 What they're doing is, I asked a question to Alec 887 00:51:08.079 --> 00:51:15.030 Ferguson six months ago. I'll put that in the book. 888 00:51:15.969 --> 00:51:20.630 They want to penetrate on fucking the quick reaction of 889 00:51:20.650 --> 00:51:23.829 getting bought out of the fucking park. Fucked you up 890 00:51:23.869 --> 00:51:25.630 out on it. I've not got a clue how you 891 00:51:25.650 --> 00:51:30.110 do it. I was accused once, maybe you would agree 892 00:51:30.139 --> 00:51:36.349 with me, is that we played a long ball Right? 893 00:51:37.030 --> 00:51:38.849 It worked for us. We used to have Toddy up front. 894 00:51:38.869 --> 00:51:42.210 Maybe it didn't be on fucking Andy Smith. Play the 895 00:51:42.230 --> 00:51:45.710 long ball. As long as it doesn't come back, we 896 00:51:45.869 --> 00:51:49.010 had to coach players. If the ball went forward over 897 00:51:49.050 --> 00:51:52.250 the middle third to the forward third, I'm wanting fucking 898 00:51:52.269 --> 00:51:56.090 strikers to hold the fucking ball or get a territorial advantage. 899 00:51:56.829 --> 00:51:58.869 And then the ball goes over the middle field, players 900 00:51:58.969 --> 00:52:01.969 fucking let's go and penetrate. It wasn't a fancy fucking 901 00:52:02.050 --> 00:52:04.699 one-twos and all the rest of it. It was fucking... 902 00:52:04.719 --> 00:52:08.369 And it worked. Because what people forgot to ask was, 903 00:52:08.750 --> 00:52:11.909 the fucking opposition's got to stop you. Dealing with that 904 00:52:11.969 --> 00:52:15.820 fucking long ball. And I think it's quite exciting, you know. 905 00:52:16.340 --> 00:52:19.440 But I don't think it's exciting watching today's game. Can 906 00:52:19.820 --> 00:52:23.380 you look at this mate, fucking, I hope I'm not 907 00:52:23.400 --> 00:52:25.420 spitting you a term here. Ah, look at that fuck. 908 00:52:25.579 --> 00:52:31.940 What about all this fucking shaking horns after games? Going 909 00:52:32.010 --> 00:52:34.289 on the park and fucking cuddling cunts and going over 910 00:52:34.309 --> 00:52:37.130 shit here. If I got fucking beat, the last time 911 00:52:37.210 --> 00:52:40.090 I wanted to do is fucking shake their hands. I 912 00:52:40.110 --> 00:52:40.730 didn't get that. 913 00:52:40.769 --> 00:52:42.440 Swapping jerseys for helping them up. 914 00:52:42.449 --> 00:52:47.070 Fucking Joe. Oh, what is this? Fuck. Fuck me. It's 915 00:52:47.130 --> 00:52:51.550 helping them up. Get it yourself. Exactly. Come on, son. 916 00:52:51.829 --> 00:52:57.199 It wasn't that bad. It was like the Eddie Cunningham. 917 00:52:57.719 --> 00:53:01.420 The Eddie Cunningham. I was actually speaking. I did that 918 00:53:01.460 --> 00:53:04.199 last week. You'll never believe that. You remember Eddie Cunningham? Yeah. 919 00:53:05.639 --> 00:53:08.139 His daughter worked behind the bar at a dinner. I 920 00:53:08.179 --> 00:53:10.179 was fucking speaking to her. She comes up, she's got 921 00:53:10.219 --> 00:53:14.679 a wee glass cap out. You didn't came me in, oh? 922 00:53:14.949 --> 00:53:18.170 I've not got a clue. My dad's Eddie Connick. For 923 00:53:18.250 --> 00:53:20.889 fuck's sake. Tell me a fucking story about it, right? 924 00:53:21.269 --> 00:53:23.710 He's playing for Dunfell and Bert's in the... Koyce told 925 00:53:23.829 --> 00:53:27.550 me this one, right? Koyce's in the dugout. I can't 926 00:53:27.610 --> 00:53:30.059 remember who the manager was. It might have been Lottie. 927 00:53:30.079 --> 00:53:31.659 Bert Tate and Dick Cummings in this dugout, right? 928 00:53:32.269 --> 00:53:34.369 And we're playing Rangers at fucking East End Park, you know, 929 00:53:34.429 --> 00:53:35.090 I like it with the two. 930 00:53:35.010 --> 00:53:38.449 Doggos, so we're right in the half, ain't we? Of course, yeah. 931 00:53:38.530 --> 00:53:43.139 You can't, when you've got an outside right for fucking Holland, 932 00:53:43.199 --> 00:53:45.079 what do you have played for fucking Rangers? You can't 933 00:53:45.119 --> 00:53:49.780 have them losing. Hustra. Eh? Peter Hustra. No, fucking, can 934 00:53:49.800 --> 00:53:53.460 you play a ref? Dutch. Eh? Dutch. Jan Bronckhorst. Newman. No, 935 00:53:53.539 --> 00:53:56.360 I've fucking played for Rangers, for fuck's sake. Newman. Eh? 936 00:53:56.800 --> 00:53:57.400 Arthur Newman. 937 00:53:57.900 --> 00:54:02.440 No. When you're a fucking outside right or, Can't believe it. 938 00:54:02.760 --> 00:54:03.320 Come on, son. 939 00:54:05.059 --> 00:54:05.610 Van Vossen. 940 00:54:07.150 --> 00:54:09.570 Who's the one that played alongside Gascon? Fucking. 941 00:54:10.190 --> 00:54:10.849 Oh, Loudrop. 942 00:54:10.869 --> 00:54:19.800 Loudrop. He's Irish. He's Irish, right? Fucking... Well... He's fucking... Honestly, 943 00:54:19.840 --> 00:54:22.739 we had this getting a fucking dune out of Forsyth. 944 00:54:22.860 --> 00:54:25.739

Fucking diving into the tackle and I said, Bert's fucking 945 00:54:25.760 --> 00:54:28.599 going to like it. Gets him in at half-time and 946 00:54:28.659 --> 00:54:31.730 he says, see, I can't See if you dive in, 947 00:54:31.789 --> 00:54:34.880 I fucking told you before the game, I told you yesterday, 948 00:54:34.949 --> 00:54:37.500 I told you the day before it, didn't fucking dive 949 00:54:37.559 --> 00:54:40.239 into him, get tight to him, I didn't fucking tackle him. 950 00:54:40.260 --> 00:54:42.719 You see, I can't, he's fucking, that's his legs, he's 951 00:54:42.780 --> 00:54:44.820 tying him in a fucking reef knot, I can't, the 952 00:54:44.840 --> 00:54:48.409 game starts, and it bursts on like that, fucking cush, 953 00:54:49.389 --> 00:54:51.489 and it's pushing rain, right, and there's a big fucking 954 00:54:51.550 --> 00:54:55.510 huddle right in front of us, and the fucking ball 955 00:54:55.530 --> 00:54:57.309 gets played to a loud drop, and he's fucking waiting 956 00:54:57.329 --> 00:54:59.130 that one, coming that one, and I can't, he's got 957 00:54:59.150 --> 00:55:01.170 the earth, He thinks he's getting to the first area 958 00:55:01.190 --> 00:55:03.469 he's going against. He's a chance to fucking do him. 959 00:55:03.630 --> 00:55:07.849 He comes fucking belting in. Loudon just fucking flicks it 960 00:55:07.889 --> 00:55:11.730 through his fucking legs, right? He kept him fucking going, right? 961 00:55:11.949 --> 00:55:14.269 The fucking doggie. And he's up like that and he's 962 00:55:14.309 --> 00:55:17.389 looking at Bert. Bert's like, yeah, cunt. Then he wants 963 00:55:17.409 --> 00:55:21.300 to go to sport by night, son. I'm talking stupid 964 00:55:21.340 --> 00:55:23.659 fucking thing to say. But I can't cost him a 965 00:55:23.719 --> 00:55:26.699 fucking person. So I'm laughing at that. 966 00:55:26.739 --> 00:55:27.380 So that was the. 967 00:55:29.269 --> 00:55:32.570 The time when we won the, when. 968 00:55:32.449 --> 00:55:34.750 We got promotion to the Premier League. Anyway, can I 969 00:55:34.789 --> 00:55:35.929 talk to you about. 970 00:55:37.920 --> 00:55:42.760 Management? You've got to earn the right to have an 971 00:55:42.820 --> 00:55:46.239 opinion on other people. If you want to start talking 972 00:55:46.280 --> 00:55:49.489 about other people, you better be right. I don't do it. 973 00:55:49.730 --> 00:55:51.750 I don't do it in the press. I don't do it. 974 00:55:53.010 --> 00:55:54.409 I wouldn't do it with you boys knowing me to 975 00:55:54.429 --> 00:55:58.940 respect me for that. Football's the hardest game in the 976 00:55:58.980 --> 00:56:02.219 world as a manager. I mean, nowadays, who the fuck, 977 00:56:02.320 --> 00:56:04.980 I've been the luckiest guy in the world, boys. I 978 00:56:05.000 --> 00:56:08.340 wasn't a good player. I wasn't particularly good at any 979 00:56:08.380 --> 00:56:11.639 fucking thing, to be honest, but 42 years, and I'm still, 980 00:56:11.659 --> 00:56:13.760 do you know what I'm saying? You still got the 981 00:56:13.780 --> 00:56:14.159 hunger for it? 982 00:56:14.159 --> 00:56:15.530 You still got the hunger for it? 983 00:56:15.550 --> 00:56:16.409 Fucking naturally. 984 00:56:16.429 --> 00:56:17.199 You want to get back in? 985 00:56:17.489 --> 00:56:19.809 Somebody was at me that day. Now, I've been offered 986 00:56:19.889 --> 00:56:23.949 a job. I'm not surprised. I've been offered a job, 987 00:56:24.409 --> 00:56:32.260 big job, but it's not in the dugout. To look 988 00:56:32.360 --> 00:56:38.849 after a Premier League club's fucking, they've got soccer schools 989 00:56:38.889 --> 00:56:42.050 all over Scotland and England and they want me to 990 00:56:42.170 --> 00:56:48.239 oversee the coaching of the coaches. Now, I did it 991 00:56:48.260 --> 00:56:51.179 for 23, I picked fucking Alan Shearer through his fucking 992 00:56:52.789 --> 00:56:56.639 His coaching badges. Lovely boy, Simon. Fuck me. Who am I? 993 00:56:57.150 --> 00:57:01.570 He was fucking magnificent. 103 caps for fucking England. And 994 00:57:01.610 --> 00:57:04.510 this fucking reserve team fucking players putting him through his 995 00:57:04.530 --> 00:57:09.250 fucking badges. That's what I did. I'm not sure if 996 00:57:09.530 --> 00:57:13.550 it's right or not. To be fucking right. Which takes 997 00:57:13.590 --> 00:57:17.550 me on. I'm going to be very careful because I'm 998 00:57:17.570 --> 00:57:22.489 very aware personally about this. See Jimmy? Jimmy Calderwood. 999 00:57:22.530 --> 00:57:26.159 He's the luckiest fucking manager, God bless him, in world football. 1000 00:57:28.039 --> 00:57:28.300 Right? 1001 00:57:29.280 --> 00:57:33.239 To go to Dunfermline after I fucking left and. 1002 00:57:33.239 --> 00:57:37.059 Proceed to put them fucking 10 million in debt one 1003 00:57:37.099 --> 00:57:39.239 year and 10 million in debt the next fucking year. 1004 00:57:39.780 --> 00:57:41.750 Start to get the Stevie Crawfords in the name who 1005 00:57:41.789 --> 00:57:44.909 were on fucking 800 when I signed them. Four fucking 1006 00:57:44.949 --> 00:57:48.650 grand six months later. Nipper, two and a half grand. 1007 00:57:48.670 --> 00:57:51.380 He was on fucking 600. that I had put him 1008 00:57:51.440 --> 00:57:55.679 on there, Doddy on there. Fucking tripled their wage. Then 1009 00:57:55.719 --> 00:57:58.780 they tell me about all the players he fucking signed. Right? 1010 00:57:59.460 --> 00:58:02.440 He then puts the club into fucking debt of that 1011 00:58:02.480 --> 00:58:06.400 kind of money. He must have been the luckiest manager 1012 00:58:06.420 --> 00:58:09.179 in Scottish football and British football and world football to 1013 00:58:09.219 --> 00:58:13.889 have a chairman like John Yorson. Because he financed it. 1014 00:58:14.050 --> 00:58:20.079 And the bank boy. So I just think that... It 1015 00:58:20.119 --> 00:58:25.750 was a strange one because all I heard about was

1016 00:58:25.789 --> 00:58:30.150 David Murray at Rangers and he had a great career 1017 00:58:30.610 --> 00:58:33.289 in Holland and all the rest of it. I thought 1018 00:58:33.309 --> 00:58:36.929 it was pretty interesting. He says he signed Jack Starn 1019 00:58:37.090 --> 00:58:40.639 three fucking times. Right? I read his book and never 1020 00:58:40.659 --> 00:58:45.079 fucking mentioned his name once. So, you know, in terms 1021 00:58:45.219 --> 00:58:47.940 of I'm not putting the boot into Jimmy Calder, I 1022 00:58:47.980 --> 00:58:53.300 just think he's a very, very lucky man because he 1023 00:58:53.320 --> 00:58:57.090 can buy it and of course he then lives at Aberdeen. Well, 1024 00:58:57.110 --> 00:58:59.030 I worked for him at Aberdeen. You did? You didn't 1025 00:58:59.230 --> 00:59:02.710 have a great time there, did you? No, I didn't 1026 00:59:02.730 --> 00:59:05.630 enjoy it. No. But all I'm saying to you is 1027 00:59:05.650 --> 00:59:09.949 that's the difference between good, bad and indifferent. We've now 1028 00:59:10.030 --> 00:59:13.530 got a situation in Scotland where five of the Premier 1029 00:59:13.710 --> 00:59:17.679 League managers are foreigners are you telling me that there's 1030 00:59:17.699 --> 00:59:20.320 not enough good coaches in Scotland must be the way 1031 00:59:21.019 --> 00:59:23.679 must be the way they want to go I don't 1032 00:59:23.739 --> 00:59:26.179 fucking know who am I to give an opinion on 1033 00:59:27.320 --> 00:59:27.940 that I don't. 1034 00:59:29.949 --> 00:59:33.110 I miss I don't miss managing the management I had 1035 00:59:33.130 --> 00:59:33.829 three spells you. 1036 00:59:33.789 --> 00:59:36.610 Did well I was in you started at Partick didn't 1037 00:59:36.630 --> 00:59:38.809 you when you went down to United. 1038 00:59:38.710 --> 00:59:41.800 Yeah and finished at York but I don't miss it 1039 00:59:41.920 --> 00:59:44.360 I miss playing I don't I don't miss the management 1040 00:59:44.400 --> 00:59:44.659 do you. 1041 00:59:44.639 --> 00:59:50.519 Miss playing aye sorry the same the same I think 1042 00:59:51.820 --> 00:59:54.409 the management the taste of the management stuff was alright 1043 00:59:54.449 --> 00:59:56.949 in spells Partick we had a we built a decent 1044 00:59:56.989 --> 00:59:59.400 team Dundee United, there was wee moments. 1045 01:00:00.320 --> 01:00:01.719 It can change so quick, as you know. 1046 01:00:01.949 --> 01:00:06.230 York was... Never any good, not any good. Were you 1047 01:00:06.269 --> 01:00:09.349 with him at all his three clubs? Yeah. York was. 1048 01:00:10.309 --> 01:00:12.690 There was different circumstances at York, but that kind of... 1049 01:00:12.650 --> 01:00:15.349 He likes to use the word scunnered. That kind of 1050 01:00:15.630 --> 01:00:18.750 sickened me with the coaching side of it. 1051 01:00:18.769 --> 01:00:21.289 I won 10-10 at Ross County and go fucking sack. 1052 01:00:21.309 --> 01:00:26.280 I remember that. Fucking George Adams. It's crazy. It was funny, eh? 1053 01:00:26.530 --> 01:00:30.679 George Adams. His laddie, Derek, was just coming to end 1054 01:00:30.719 --> 01:00:34.000 his career. He's director of football now. I always remember, 1055 01:00:34.019 --> 01:00:38.619 I always remember a story about that. I had talked 1056 01:00:38.639 --> 01:00:41.360 to Roy McGregor the year before, didn't like it. Went 1057 01:00:41.380 --> 01:00:43.739 to Glen Eagle, sat at a meal, went up to 1058 01:00:44.099 --> 01:00:49.039 the next time. Sitting in the reception area of his 1059 01:00:49.079 --> 01:00:56.880 big centre half, fucking, my memory's fucking gone. Lee McCall 1060 01:00:56.900 --> 01:01:01.000 was there too. and what do you call the big 1061 01:01:01.039 --> 01:01:05.929 fucking centre forward? The Braveheart, which is Colin. Colin Hendry. 1062 01:01:06.070 --> 01:01:09.369 They two are sitting, right? So I've sat and I've 1063 01:01:09.389 --> 01:01:12.829 done the interview with Ronnie McGregor and George Adams. I 1064 01:01:13.510 --> 01:01:18.969 had spoken to five of my friends in Faygo and 1065 01:01:19.210 --> 01:01:22.409 they're big names, right? And I'm lucky enough that I 1066 01:01:22.449 --> 01:01:25.230 could go and talk to them. That's another fucking thing 1067 01:01:25.289 --> 01:01:32.079 about players that didn't answer a phone. Anyway, the chairman 1068 01:01:32.219 --> 01:01:35.769 says the job's yours Dick do you have any questions 1069 01:01:37.010 --> 01:01:39.409 I said I do actually I spoke to five people 1070 01:01:40.110 --> 01:01:41.989 and I'm not going to name them because that would 1071 01:01:42.010 --> 01:01:43.630 be wrong but you have an idea who I was 1072 01:01:43.670 --> 01:01:49.420 talking to first of all I spoke to people in 1073 01:01:49.440 --> 01:01:53.059 the game the chairman could you please tell me what 1074 01:01:53.119 --> 01:01:56.840 role George has got I've never worked with a director 1075 01:01:56.860 --> 01:02:02.050 of football before do you worry about me son don't 1076 01:02:02.070 --> 01:02:04.820 worry about me son I'm here to enhance your position 1077 01:02:05.699 --> 01:02:08.159 I says well I hope so because we're the best 1078 01:02:08.300 --> 01:02:10.980 in the world in the world I've not had great 1079 01:02:11.000 --> 01:02:14.800 reports about you George and I fucking said that maybe 1080 01:02:14.840 --> 01:02:18.000 I shouldn't have but I did we go fucking nine 1081 01:02:18.019 --> 01:02:22.239 games one go down to Kirkcaldy there's fucking second in 1082 01:02:22.280 --> 01:02:25.119 the league we beat them too long Simon we were 1083 01:02:25.159 --> 01:02:28.780 fucking magnificent serious so I think I was a smoker 1084 01:02:29.300 --> 01:02:32.440 you know a cigar. Now when he went to the park, 1085 01:02:32.480 --> 01:02:36.880 and of course Roy McGregor and George Amos all went 1086 01:02:36.900 --> 01:02:41.159 to the same church, right? And George was a

wee 1087 01:02:41.179 --> 01:02:44.269 bit annoyed that there ain't no plane. He was on 1088 01:02:44.289 --> 01:02:48.730 the bench and the chairman comes in and says, good 1089 01:02:48.750 --> 01:02:52.449 result today Dick, good performance. I say, aye thanks chairman, George. 1090 01:02:53.329 --> 01:02:59.670 Aye Dick, The result was better than the performance, son. 1091 01:03:00.769 --> 01:03:05.559 You see? That's his damn typical dick. George, you're getting 1092 01:03:05.599 --> 01:03:10.219 on my fucking tits. You keep fucking having a comment 1093 01:03:10.300 --> 01:03:11.900 about the game all the rest of it. I said, 1094 01:03:11.940 --> 01:03:13.920 why do you? I said, in fact, to be honest 1095 01:03:13.940 --> 01:03:18.599 with you, Roy, let's fucking sort this out now. It's 1096 01:03:18.699 --> 01:03:21.250 either George or me you're going to listen to. Fucking 1097 01:03:21.309 --> 01:03:23.269 sack me the next morning. Terrible. 1098 01:03:23.610 --> 01:03:25.510 That sounds like something else, I know, but that's for 1099 01:03:25.590 --> 01:03:28.630 another day, do you know what I'm on about? Always 1100 01:03:28.650 --> 01:03:32.170 finding a negative and a positive. Dick, we could be 1101 01:03:32.210 --> 01:03:35.329 here all day. We're going to have to buy up, 1102 01:03:35.369 --> 01:03:35.849 read the book. 1103 01:03:35.889 --> 01:03:36.510 No, read the book. 1104 01:03:36.650 --> 01:03:38.840 I was going to say, buy the book. Buy the book, 1105 01:03:38.880 --> 01:03:40.440 read the book. It's a good cause. 1106 01:03:40.739 --> 01:03:44.059 We've got some recommendations from our previous guest for you 1107 01:03:44.159 --> 01:03:47.559 before you go that you can recommend for our next guest. 1108 01:03:47.599 --> 01:03:48.230 We always do it. 1109 01:03:48.619 --> 01:03:49.739 Can you stick them up for us? 1110 01:03:49.760 --> 01:03:51.280 Because I've not taken any notes. 1111 01:03:52.550 --> 01:03:56.369 So it's a film, an album and a song. So 1112 01:03:56.710 --> 01:03:58.789 we had Neil Forsyth. I don't know if you're familiar 1113 01:03:58.809 --> 01:04:00.809 with Legends on Netflix. Are you a TV watcher? 1114 01:04:02.090 --> 01:04:04.099 I'm a TV watcher, but I don't know. 1115 01:04:04.139 --> 01:04:04.880 It's a good show. 1116 01:04:04.920 --> 01:04:06.440 Very good. All right. 1117 01:04:06.460 --> 01:04:11.440 So he recommended his film was Trendspotting. His album's Bob Dylan, 1118 01:04:11.519 --> 01:04:14.119 Blonde on Blonde. And his song was Don't Look Back 1119 01:04:14.159 --> 01:04:18.389 in Anger from Oasis. Do you have three recommendations for 1120 01:04:18.469 --> 01:04:19.130 our next guest? 1121 01:04:19.349 --> 01:04:22.630 A movie first. A movie. A movie first. An album 1122 01:04:22.750 --> 01:04:25.739 and a song, aye. The best movie I've ever fucking 1123 01:04:25.760 --> 01:04:33.070 seen is Chisholm, John Wayne. Right. Right? Chisholm, John Chisholm. 1124 01:04:33.510 --> 01:04:39.800 Fucking brilliant. The best album I've ever heard is Roovers. Right. 1125 01:04:39.840 --> 01:04:42.579 I should know you my fucking argument about that. That's 1126 01:04:42.599 --> 01:04:43.659 fucking magnificent. 1127 01:04:44.119 --> 01:04:44.579 And a song. 1128 01:04:44.639 --> 01:04:49.900 And the song is... That party song, that song at 1129 01:04:49.940 --> 01:04:55.130 fucking Jackie's wedding, right? and it was travelling light travelling 1130 01:04:55.170 --> 01:04:59.630 light you'll not believe it got no bags and baggies 1131 01:04:59.690 --> 01:05:03.840 to slow me down travelling light with Clive Pritchard brilliant 1132 01:05:03.949 --> 01:05:07.420 brilliant brilliant you've been a fantastic guest mate look forward 1133 01:05:07.440 --> 01:05:09.260 to the book great to see you and hope you're 1134 01:05:09.300 --> 01:05:11.739 back in football very soon very kind of you you've 1135 01:05:11.780 --> 01:05:14.420 been a tribute to yourselves I'm telling you you're magnificent 1136 01:05:14.480 --> 01:05:17.610 pros and I loved everything about you thank you thank 1137 01:05:17.630 --> 01:05:17.690 you