Full Transcript for Conversations About The Drop (Ep 7)

seen that jacket. I've never saw that jacket. I ain't never seen yours. 00:05:29 Speaker 2: Especially the way he fitted it in that early 90s. That's like an Averex fit. Yeah, that jacket would have been super big. A what fit? 00:05:38 Speaker 1: Watch this, Chad. Watch this. Say it again. A what fit? Averex. Averex. Forgive me. Shout out to Brooke. Shout out to Brooke. I just dropped an Averex jacket yesterday. They dropped 25 of them with the non-submissions, right? They're going to get it too. It's fine. 00:05:56 Speaker 4: Right? 00:05:57 Speaker 2: But the fit that DG was wearing it in is very much a late 90s fit. 00:06:03 Speaker 1: Excuse me. 00:06:04 Speaker 2: Let me say it the black way. Ava Rex, right, was making them that oversized. But to be honest, the crazy part is I'm almost willing to bet, and it's going to come out, that they got those pieces from FUBU. 00:06:17 Speaker 1: I bet they did too. 00:06:18 Speaker 2: Them was not like, them was not pieces that was on the racks. When you go into a woodland, I would have took that jacket. I would have left with it. They would have never had that jacket. Only a handful of things I saw in there. There was a jacket Big Dion was wearing. It was a Pele jacket. I was like, I would have took that if I saw that. 00:06:37 Speaker 5: The old boy had the, he had a zip-up starter joint on, right? The half zip-up starter joint. 00:06:42 Speaker 1: I didn't care about that. I like that shirt too. 00:06:45 Speaker 2: Because I remember talking to them. I was like, this feels a little too early for that time period. And they helped me understand that it's more of a window. The story is a window into time. It's not necessarily like a time piece as much as a window into time. And then it's like, because it's such a grand love letter to the West Coast and hip hop and street life, it's like, yeah, it's some things that go. 00:07:10 Speaker 1: So it'd be like, yeah. 00:07:12 Speaker 2: For me, obviously, I'm like, bro, why are we using fake gang names? Them niggas should have been from Van Ness Gangsters. Like, it was Block 09 Bloods. I'd have been like, man, Van Ness Gangster Brims. I'd have said the real name. Niggas would have been like, damn, them niggas said... You know what I mean? To me, I believe in that. But, you know, Spelman is such an elite storyteller, he makes it digestible for everybody. And it's a little more general versus if I'm telling you a story, it just. 00:07:38 Speaker 1: It's too filthy. 00:07:39 Speaker 2: I see you stories telling me that, like, my lingo and my understanding is so filthy in it that it don't necessarily always translate to everybody. Like Tupac must die is a prime example of, to me, that's a simple story that shouldn't really, people shouldn't even think I have no emotions. 00:07:54 Speaker 6: They like, oh, you got to hate Tupac. 00:07:56 Speaker 1: I'm like, why? 00:07:57 Speaker 2: Like, why would I have to hate Tupac to tell the story of how he got into it and

they jumped on the dude, the dudes came back and shot him. Like that to me didn't even sound like I would be taking sides, but because of how filthy I am culturally in, this thing, right? It's like, it comes across very, you know, aggressive in LA and it ain't nothing I can do. So I'm not with you. And I agree with you. I think that's going to be a good viral talking point. I think a bunch of people are going to be like, man, what's the football jersey got? 00:08:24 Speaker 1: And that's dope. 00:08:25 Speaker 2: I think all these things are dope from marketing perspectives. And then I have to also let go of certain things, right? Like, cause it's like, you'll be sitting around this motherfucker art. 00:08:35 Speaker 1: You'd be like, damn man. 00:08:36 Speaker 6: Like, you know, so I'm grateful for this shit all of it. 00:08:39 Speaker 1: And still, You understand? Dope episode. Dope episode. I have a question, though, before we get to breaking down the episode. 00:08:50 Speaker 7: I thought we were breaking it down just now. I thought talking about the jacket was breaking it down. 00:08:54 Speaker 1: It is. We already talking about it, Lex. Okay, my bad. We're breaking it down. 00:09:02 Speaker 3: So let me ask you a question. And this goes to continuity. It goes to. 00:09:10 Speaker 3: Who we give a pass to. Now, if that was a white guy, if it was all white folk, Danny, here we go. Would that be an issue? 00:09:19 Speaker 1: No. 00:09:20 Speaker 2: Because nobody ever gets it right. The thing about the drop-in is it's the closest to get it right. 00:09:28 Speaker 1: Okay. 00:09:28 Speaker 6: You know what I mean? As far as a period piece, like about us particularly. 00:09:34 Speaker 1: Like, think about it. 00:09:34 Speaker 2: If somebody else made it now, like, You'll be looking at people like I saw modern films, shout out to all the modern film and TV maker. They'll be having the worst version of a crip ever. It'd be like, bro, that, why did you do that? I know you, you know what I mean? Like, I know you saw that and you was like, this don't seem right. I know other people on the set was like, this don't feel right. 00:09:54 Speaker 1: You didn't ask anyone? 00:09:56 Speaker 6: You didn't say nothing. But then I remember being in the casting. call when people was trying to pronounce Suu and getting those tapes and being like, so you're just not even going to look it up? You just don't even have that much respect for black people, like culturally, like the way you like, what is this? Because once you see it, you're like, this is not a word that's in Webster. So you had to YouTube it or whatever. Watch movies and some shit. 00:10:20 Speaker 1: Something. 00:10:21 Speaker 2: And they was like, no, fuck niggas culture. If it was an Italian thing, they'd have looked it up. 00:10:26 Speaker 1: They'd be like, hey, what does this mean? Is that why you said a white guy, Lex? 00:10:29 Speaker 7: I'm trying to figure out why you would say a white guy

if it was a white guy. 00:10:33 Speaker 3: I think our audience would hold a white director more accountable. 00:10:39 Speaker 1: Yeah, they'd be more critical. They'd be more critical of it. Okay, that's what you mean, the director part of it. What? 00:10:44 Speaker 2: Okay. 00:10:47 Speaker 1: So it's, you know what? I think I would. I think they would give a white guy more of a black guy, more critical of it. I do. I agree. 00:10:55 Speaker 6: Like, I think we don't hold colors critical. We don't say shit about colors. 00:11:00 Speaker 2: The first time you ever pushed back on colors from a nigga from the lifestyle is me. 00:11:05 Speaker 1: Everybody else just was pumped up. They was like, cool. Nobody knows why rock that. I would say you and iced tea. I would say UNICT. 00:11:15 Speaker 2: Nobody goes and says... That was my point years ago. 00:11:19 Speaker 1: I remember. I would say, listen, we needed y'all to say, hold up. This ain't right. That ain't right. But y'all didn't have access. 00:11:30 Speaker 3: We didn't have access to clear up the misnomers of people. 00:11:35 Speaker 1: Telling our stories. 00:11:36 Speaker 2: I'll be honest, bro. I think niggas kind of got off of it. They was like, it made them feel tougher. 00:11:43 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? So... He used it. That's my question. 00:11:47 Speaker 2: Right, to critique homies, I think they roll high off of it. Like, yeah, niggas, they crazy. 00:11:51 Speaker 6: Shut your stupid ass up. It ain't that fucking crazy. 00:11:53 Speaker 1: Goddamn, Lex. Shut your stupid ass up. I can't read that shit. I only have two questions. I only have two questions on there. 00:11:58 Speaker 6: It is not that crazy, but I do think sometimes. 00:12:01 Speaker 1: You don't see the hip-hop in my handwriting, though? I see the hip-hop in your handwriting. 00:12:04 Speaker 2: But I do think, to a lot of degrees, when things are, the story is told, and it make it look a little rougher, niggas be just. 00:12:11 Speaker 1: Kind of be like, well, I ain't gonna say nothing. 00:12:13 Speaker 2: Because Rocket just looked like no joke. Nigga just rolled up and just shot a nigga. It was just Monday. Like, nigga, it's just Monday. 00:12:20 Speaker 1: Nigga does shit. 00:12:21 Speaker 6: Nigga, you don't even know what happened. 00:12:22 Speaker 2: Nigga, niggas could have. Came through there, shot Rocket, little brother. Nobody knows what happened. They open up with niggas in the van shooting the blood. And that's the depth of the story. Then the police come to save the story. And the mom's crying. Man, I be listening to the stories all the time. And I be, I mean, what that nigga did? 00:12:37 Speaker 1: That's the problem. Like, this is my biggest. 00:12:40 Speaker 2: thing to take away from this episode, right? First off, no ceilings. Glad to be back with y'all. Got my brother Denny King, Trapp, Lex in the spot. Breaking down episode seven of The Drop. You'll hear this after, so I'm glad you'll hear this. 00:12:55 Speaker 1: Episode seven. Yeah, that was episode seven. I thought it was six. Yeah, seven. 00:13:02 Speaker 2: We did six last week. Here's my thing, and I already saw it, right? Um, People going to act like artillery made some kind of noble move. 00:13:12 Speaker 1: As far as what? Right. 00:13:15 Speaker 6: They're going to be like, oh, man, you know, he right. 00:13:19 Speaker 2: It just continues this trash cycle of black men killing each other over nothing. Nah, nigga, they killed my homeboy. Them niggas killed the homie. Them niggas shot the homie, shot him in his car, left him stiff. Now, look, I respect if artillery don't want to commit a crime. But don't try to be all this black ass, blackity black shit now. 00:13:42 Speaker 1: I got one thing to say about that, though, because I like what he said. 00:13:46 Speaker 2: Lex, make your rap songs, Lex. Do your part in the community. Make a song for the homies. 00:13:51 Speaker 1: Get them motherfuckers. Yes. Okay. 00:13:53 Speaker 3: All right. 00:13:54 Speaker 1: All right. 00:13:55 Speaker 5: But like he said, though, why they ain't riding the police? The police fucked them up. 00:14:00 Speaker 6: Yeah, but again, them saying that in the story, you don't know. 00:14:04 Speaker 2: Because in real time, if you beat up a homie like that, nigga, I'm telling you right now, the homies was punching on police. Niggas was running fades at the police. It's a real story. We don't tell it, but it's a real story of police running fades. Shout out to the police that was down enough to run their fades. Because they was running their fades when shit went bad. Remember, this nigga made a song about they people getting killed. He trying to act like niggas supposed to ride. Nigga, you made this song antagonizing them about their partner that got killed. 00:14:32 Speaker 1: A black man that got killed. There's a police. 00:14:34 Speaker 2: Nigga, they came and got at you, nigga. They beat you up, nigga, because you was out of line. You was popping your shit. Nigga, whatever you want to do, you supposed to lead the charge if the homies want to trip. 00:14:42 Speaker 1: But my thing... Go ahead. Go ahead. I'm sorry. No, I kind of got what he was saying. I mean, I hear what you're saying completely, though. 00:14:50 Speaker 5: But I get what he's saying within, like, It just becomes a revolving cycle, though. 00:14:54 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? We run down... So why you didn't write. 00:14:58 Speaker 2: So why you didn't write the mayor of New York when they came and bombed the towers? 00:15:03 Speaker 1: And you know what? We don't need to do no fighting. Oh, it's New York, huh? 00:15:08 Speaker 2: Why you didn't say this could get a little worse, man? 00:15:12 Speaker 1: You know what? We need to bring Al Qaeda to the table. Hold up, Lex. 00:15:15 Speaker 2: We need to bring Al Qaeda to the table. We need to resolve this so nobody else, like, fuck out of here. 00:15:21 Speaker 5:

So now when you're talking about that, though, let's go into the whole, to what we found out now, what the truth is now. You know what I'm saying? I don't know if you want to talk about this on the podcast, but that shit ain't got nothing to do with them. That shit was, they was the four guys for the fucking towers getting fucking mobbed up. 00:15:34 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? That's not cap. It's not cap. 00:15:38 Speaker 2: Cap, it's both things. Both things are true. Both things are true. They knew what was going to happen and let it happen, but they still wanted to do it. 00:15:46 Speaker 1: So I agree. We had this conversation. America was like, you know what? 00:15:49 Speaker 2: We could have stopped this, but we're going to let this happen because we need to bring the country together, whatever they was doing. But the fact that they wanted to do it, didn't nobody say, hey, you know what? As Americans, this is ridiculous. 00:15:59 Speaker 1: We don't, you know, we. 00:15:59 Speaker 2: Understand those thousand people that the towers got killed, but we need to grow up and we need to bring Al Qaeda to the table and resolve this amicably. 00:16:06 Speaker 1: No! Drones! Drones, Trapp. 00:16:09 Speaker 2: Drones on top of drones on top of drones. Trapp, they was bragging about popping a man 2021. That 20 years later, it came on the news. 00:16:19 Speaker 1: Who was the president? 00:16:20 Speaker 2: The man that be always falling asleep. 00:16:22 Speaker 1: Joe Biden. Joe Biden. 00:16:25 Speaker 2: When Biden said, yeah, it was 20 years later, Trapp. It was in 2021. They was like, yeah, we finally got the leader of the Al Qaeda who was responsible. Wait a minute, y'all been busting on these people for 20 years? Y'all been hunting them down for 20 years. 00:16:41 Speaker 6: Y'all can't tell me nothing about this, Crippin. 00:16:43 Speaker 1: That's my point. That shit, I think it's a bigger discussion within the way of making us think that that's what it was. Them niggas ain't having it. That was America bombing on America. I don't want to discuss that right there. That's all that shit was. Okay, what about every other war historically? Okay, what's up with other wars in here? 00:17:03 Speaker 2: Every war is just like this. It's always some. 00:17:05 Speaker 1: Shit like this. Yeah, it's the same way. It's the same way. 00:17:06 Speaker 2: There's always some selfish shit in the center of it. Somebody got their feelings hurt. Somebody did something. What I'm saying, I. 00:17:14 Speaker 1: Hate that artillery is going to have this noble outlet. 00:17:16 Speaker 2: And it's like, nah, nigga, you ain't noble. You just done. I'd rather you be like, you know what? 00:17:20 Speaker 1: I'm done. 00:17:21 Speaker 2: I don't want to go to prison. I got an opportunity of a lifetime. But all that whole, you trying to continue the cycle. Man, these niggas just kill Keith. Now I agree with Leon telling her, hey, you don't know who did it. Because

that was an argument I had with my homies. I had that argument with my homies when something happened and we didn't know what happened. And niggas want to just, they get drunk and high and they just want to go shoot everybody. 00:17:43 Speaker 1: I'm with you. 00:17:44 Speaker 6: I think that's crazy. And that's what was finna happen. 00:17:46 Speaker 2: Them blood niggas finna go knock down everybody up in the bus on the gate cities. Every gang around that motherfucker that's a crip because they didn't know which crip said did it. 00:17:55 Speaker 1: Everybody got to get it. 00:17:56 Speaker 2: I do think that's a bit emotional. I understand the show of power. But I agree that's emotional. That's like if America, before they figured out who was that behind the tower. 00:18:06 Speaker 1: And they was like, you know what? Russia, you finna get it. North Korea, you finna get it. Everybody. You might. 00:18:14 Speaker 2: That would be emotional. And I do agree with that as a gangbanging fault. 00:18:18 Speaker 1: That's wrong. Question. 00:18:22 Speaker 3: Because I need some reality. I've seen two different sets that are familiar with each other. pull out the hammers, 10 guns, everyone pulling out guns, but they talk. I've seen cats come together before it got dirty. 00:18:37 Speaker 1: They talk. Is there a.... 00:18:42 Speaker 3: The way y'all came up, there's no head cat? Since they're not sure, no one really claimed this is a case of murder. Is there any way that someone ahead of a second approach... Lex, hold on. I'm asking a question. There's no, all right, so listen. 00:19:05 Speaker 1: I want to answer it, though. 00:19:06 Speaker 3: All right, so her blood is killed. You would assume that, yes, that's what I'm seeing. They assume it's a credit. 00:19:14 Speaker 1: Okay, can I answer that, Lex? 00:19:16 Speaker 3: Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Yes, King, just give me one second. So, you understand my question? I understand your question. 00:19:24 Speaker 1: Just so I can get it. 00:19:27 Speaker 3: If a blood is killed and it's assumed that a crip did it, are there cats who can come and figure it out? 00:19:35 Speaker 1: Like, yo, what was the issue? 00:19:38 Speaker 3: And you don't have to give me names, but what was the issue before this turns into a war? 00:19:44 Speaker 7: Okay, Lex, for me, watching the show, I think that's what Leon was trying to do with Dora. 00:19:50 Speaker 1: You know, try to stop it and get it understood, you. 00:19:53 Speaker 7: Know, at that moment, like, Hey, let's not turn this into something bigger, you know, let's figure it out first and not turn it into something. I think that's what was happening in that scene. Then Wanda came in and shit on it, you know, But to me, that's what was going on. They was trying, Leon was trying to stop that from happening, going out there in the blood, just shooting up everything by trying to talk to Dar, knowing that Dar is people, you know, it was going to be the head of leading that charge. 00:20:20 Speaker 1: So to say, yes, that does happen. What, what happens? Say it. What people try to talk about so it don't get that far. Ask the question one more time. 00:20:28 Speaker 2: Are there conversations that kind of mitigate the violence, the insulin violence? 00:20:32 Speaker 1: Yes. That's why most... Does the head of the Crips. 00:20:35 Speaker 3: Will the head of the Crips go find the head of the, you know. 00:20:39 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. They do this. 00:20:42 Speaker 2: So that's why as violent as it seems, that's why it's not as violent. I always tell you this, Lex. Everybody's worst enemy is right next to them. We all know each other. There's no question. The 60s and A-Trade's right across Western. It's really one street that separate their neighborhood. Like, you're across street. Like, you can look across street, there's A-Trade. Look across street, there's Roller's 60s. Bonnie Hunter's and Grace Street. That's like a half a block. 00:21:08 Speaker 1: But you got families like that that's from two different sides. Right? 00:21:12 Speaker 2: The inside Crips with Trady from and Snoop, the Roller 20 Crips. They share all the same things. 00:21:18 Speaker 1: Right. 00:21:18 Speaker 2: Every gang. I don't care which one it is. It's such a proximity thing. The only real war can be when it's close. But if you really think about how bad it could be, it's nowhere near as bad as it could be because of how many passes and conversations is happening to to mitigate ensuing, you know, possibly ensuing issues. 00:21:39 Speaker 1: So I always say this. Right. 00:21:42 Speaker 2: I agree with a lot of the critique that gangbanging was started by young people. 00:21:46 Speaker 6: It's just like hip hop. Hip hop was started by kids, right? 00:21:48 Speaker 1: Young people, right? 00:21:50 Speaker 2: It was a bunch of younger people, right? Doing their own thing. But what makes everything kind of, when you're young, think about when we were all young. If you have a problem with somebody, how many times let, when you had a problem with somebody, he was like, you know what? Let's go get a milk from the cafeteria and a pizza and just solve this amicably in a conversation. 00:22:08 Speaker 1: It don't happen. It don't happen. You fight. Never. What you do, you just fight. You fight. 00:22:15 Speaker 2: I don't care if you at a suburban school, they don't have the tutelage. 00:22:20 Speaker 1: They don't, excuse me. 00:22:20 Speaker 6: They don't have the mental fortitude to two suburban kids. 00:22:24 Speaker 2: Somebody just a punk. And it's cool to be a punk there. So, you know, they don't, people don't just be like, hey, you know, we need to sit down and have an amicable discussion of how we can mediate the situation. 00:22:33 Speaker 1: No, that ain't happening. 00:22:35 Speaker 6: Motherfucker fight. Motherfucker, y'all gonna stand across from each other. 00:22:38 Speaker 2: Somebody gonna push your shoulder

to their shoulder and they gonna keep on trying to get y'all to fight. Not only do you guys not know how to have, you don't have the conflict resolution, right? 00:22:48 Speaker 1: The intellect for conflict resolution. 00:22:50 Speaker 2: But everybody around you Even right now, trap to this day, if you look at half of the fights that's going on the internet, there's nobody trying to stop the fight. Everybody recording it. Like, the last two times I saw fights, I tried to stop them both. And I stopped them successfully. It don't mean you can keep doing it. 00:23:07 Speaker 6: You fuck around and get beat up or shot or stabbed that way. 00:23:10 Speaker 2: But you can tell, like, I'll stop the fight at Varth and I'll stop the fight at another place, at the swap meet. Because I've seen two brothers just finna get into it. Hey, bro, y'all don't got to do that. 00:23:21 Speaker 1: Fuck that nigga. Hey, bro, but chill. 00:23:22 Speaker 2: Bro, y'all can do this at another time. It's a grocery store. But think about it, right? I'm a 46-year-old man. My mind is set. 00:23:29 Speaker 1: Co-maturity. Co-maturity. Exactly. That's gangbanging, right? Gangbanging. So when the older heads come, they like, hey, man, let me call. 00:23:37 Speaker 2: It's relationships, right? 00:23:37 Speaker 1: Let me call the G niggas over there. Hey, what's up, bro? 00:23:41 Speaker 6: That's what's happening most times. Every now and then, though, it ain't, you know. 00:23:47 Speaker 1: Talking to yourself. I think it more so comes to, and that's why I be saying like this, like your actions would be done different if you have time to think about it or if you have a moment to not think about it and it happens right then. You know what I'm saying? If it's a moment right then that you ain't even gonna think about it, then the fight's gonna happen though. 00:24:08 Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying? If you got the time to go, now listen, this shit ain't worth it though, B. I'm not, you know what I'm saying? I'm fucking around with it. 00:24:14 Speaker 1: I think that's when it resolves. Situations get dealt with a little bit different, though, I feel like. 00:24:19 Speaker 7: And that's what Leon was trying to do, stop that situation with Dara, because Dara's people was heavy, you know, they royalty in the bloods. 00:24:26 Speaker 1: So he was trying to use Dara to stop that. He was smart. That's why he was talking about his dad. 00:24:29 Speaker 2: Leon know everything. Man, don't even forget Leon and Crip, man. Leon know everything, but Leon also know. 00:24:35 Speaker 1: What war costs. 00:24:37 Speaker 2: Leon, a little girl died at the hands of a war that was happening. Somebody came busting on him. He busting back. And look at how the general public talk about Leon shot this little girl. Don't nobody say Leon, this little girl, died in the middle of a gunfire. The car she was in, right, that was taking Scully's daughter, the dudes pulled up next to Leon and got the busting first. They pulled their guns out and got the yakking. 00:25:01 Speaker 1: It don't matter. It matters. 00:25:04 Speaker 6: Because intent matters. 00:25:06 Speaker 1: No, no, no. Intent matters. 00:25:09 Speaker 3: Intent matters the cats busting the guns. With people outside of it, if I know one of the names... you're going to associate that name with one of the triggers. If there's 15 guys, and you know one of the guys' name, his name is Paul, you remember in the, what's that Eddie Murphy movie? 00:25:28 Speaker 1: Red Fox. But let me tell you, I'm going to tell you why. Hold on, hold on, hold on. 00:25:32 Speaker 3: No, whatever movie. They all were shooting, and then one guy shot his little 22. Remember that? 00:25:39 Speaker 1: All of Night. All of Night. In All of Night's. It don't matter. If they know everyone's mad, but they know. 00:25:45 Speaker 3: That motherfucker with the little shit, he shot that kid. 00:25:50 Speaker 1: That's how it go. But I'm saying that's a problem. 00:25:53 Speaker 2: And I think that's the problem that we keep having when we don't have grace for each other. Now, I'm not saying that shouldn't be a legal situation where you get in trouble. That's just how it go. You are engaged in an illegal shootout. All that's fine. But when we don't give, we don't grace, we don't give people our grace and say, hey man, some dudes rolled up shooting at him. He got the bus and back. And the little girl's in the car. Why you shoot with this little girl in the car? It's funny because I watch them do that right now. Now that all these white people is dying over these overdoses from Fetty, fentanyl and all that shit. I bet you they finding the nigga that sold them the drugs. I bet you they ain't just like, you know what? You the problem, pops, because your son was on that dope. Why is he going to look for a dope dealer to buy dope and deal with his problem? 00:26:35 Speaker 1: No. 00:26:37 Speaker 6: Lex, the D-Boy is going to jail now. 00:26:39 Speaker 1: You know why? 00:26:40 Speaker 2: The D-Boy wasn't going to jail his whole life. All the people we heard stories about shooting heroin, we ain't never knew a D-Boy that went to jail for all the people that died from hot shots. 00:26:50 Speaker 1: Hell no. 00:26:51 Speaker 2: But now that the white folk dying because they fuck with that fentanyl, they fuck with all that. 00:26:55 Speaker 1: Lex, I know you don't want to believe in racism. It's real. It's real. No, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. We don't have. 00:27:03 Speaker 3: There's no bridge between black folk and law enforcement. 00:27:07 Speaker 1: We are told not to even. 00:27:08 Speaker 3: It's one of the codes of the street not to talk to the cops at all. 00:27:12 Speaker 1: That has to play a role. 00:27:15 Speaker 3: Like, you're acting like everyone has a clear bridge to the police communication between each other. 00:27:21 Speaker 1: We are told in our community not to fucking talk to the cops. That's

going to hamper the cops and finding the guy who's selling that bad shit. No, that's ridiculous. You think that was wrong for him to tell us not to deal with the police? Hold on, hold on, hold on. Hold up, Lex. What are we doing? 00:27:38 Speaker 2: They don't treat you like a nigga because you act like a nigga. They treat you like a nigga, Lex, because you a nigga. I know, because the rhetoric and the belief is that they're going to treat you better if you act better. 00:27:49 Speaker 1: It's not. You could be a doctor, you're just a black nigga. You could be a lawyer, you're still a nigga. You could be a child. You could be a fucking baby. 00:27:59 Speaker 2: It's just different. So it's not like the reason you're told that, and you're told that because historically the police hasn't done right by black people. I mean, even the inception of the police, I ain't got to tell you, you know how this shit started. They just don't necessarily take our shit into... They're getting better, Lex. I'm not going to disagree with you. 400 years of fucking niggas over, they're finally getting better. 00:28:24 Speaker 1: Don't make Lex feel okay with that. It's not cool, Lex. 00:28:27 Speaker 2: Even if it was at zero respect for niggas, it might be at seven out of 100. Don't give Lex that, brother. It's not true, Lex. Y'all don't give a fuck. I'm not denying it, Lex. 00:28:38 Speaker 3: But what about Black... Black police or Latin police, Latino police. 00:28:42 Speaker 1: The police mean you white. The police are the police, right? So when you're a police, you're white. They blue, they blue. Police is blue, man. We black and white, we blue. 00:28:50 Speaker 7: Hey, Lex, I just seen something, I think, in Georgia where the six police was talking about arresting black people more. 00:28:57 Speaker 2: And one of them was blue. 00:28:59 Speaker 1: And one was black. And one was black saying that with five other white dudes. Who can represent the most blacks? He forgot to shut the body cam off. And one was black, Lex. That's the end of your question. Because the badge. 00:29:13 Speaker 2: No, they're white. We say blue, but they're white. The police badge turn you white. You know how hard it is to stay a nigga while you're the police? 00:29:24 Speaker 6: I got two homies. My nigga Jeffy. That nigga, Jespy, is my nigga. 00:29:29 Speaker 2: Even Jespy, he be like, God damn, man. He be trying his best. The problem is, our niggas see you. Just be trying his best, Lex, to be the coolest police in the world. He be trying not to give niggas tickets. We be on the phone and she be like, I'm right next to this nigga. This nigga on the phone the whole time. He don't even see me, G. Because he on his headphones and his helmet. He don't even see me, G. He don't even see me. He said, watch when I pull him over. He going to be going off talking shit. And I'm going to just sit right there. I don't want to give him a ticket. But, you know, it is my job. But why is he going to make me give him a ticket? 00:30:02 Speaker 1: He's going to talk. So, right? He's going to talk shit. He's going to talk shit. Exactly. 00:30:07 Speaker 2: Trap. 00:30:07 Speaker 6: He get two or three lights before he get them. 00:30:11 Speaker 1: Right, King? Remember, he get two or three lights, Lex. Two or three lights. This nigga still on. I remember that, too. 00:30:17 Speaker 2: So he finally flagged. 00:30:19 Speaker 1: Pull him over. Man, what the hell you pulling me out? I remember that. Yeah, I remember that one. 00:30:24 Speaker 8: I heard you going off, Lex. What have you been on for? I wasn't doing nothing. He was like, sir, you've been on your phone. Man, I just put up my phone on the map quest. He like, sir, I was fighting. I don't care about none of that shit, man. You fucking with me. 00:30:36 Speaker 1: He turned him into a white man. Please leave your white man. That story was insane. 00:30:48 Speaker 3: Your friend disrespects this officer. He disrespects this officer. And because the officer says, you know what, now I'm going to go buy the book. Now that officer is a white man. 00:31:00 Speaker 1: Yes, going by the book means you're a white man. Hold on. 00:31:02 Speaker 2: Going by the book means you're a white man. If you go by the book, Lex, you're white. The book is written in white language for white people. You just kind of, Lex, you was. 00:31:17 Speaker 1: Only three-fourths of a page. 00:31:20 Speaker 2: You were supposed to be in the book, Lex. Lex, it was illegal for you to read the book. You couldn't even read the page, Lex. 00:31:27 Speaker 1: This is 200 years ago. 00:31:28 Speaker 2: This is two people's lives time ago. 00:31:31 Speaker 3: To all my black officers out there, I appreciate you out there. 00:31:36 Speaker 1: I don't appreciate you at all. 00:31:37 Speaker 2: Continue to do the good. My female male. I don't appreciate you at all. 00:31:46 Speaker 3: I appreciate you. 00:31:48 Speaker 2: But I will say this. I will say this. I am not overly. 00:31:54 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Hold up. I'm tired of shit. You know how many laws you break every day? Every day. You break laws every. 00:32:02 Speaker 3: You can go in and out of different courtrooms. 00:32:05 Speaker 1: If you want. No, I'm not talking about the reckless shit. When he goes to the fucking. 00:32:10 Speaker 3: When he goes to the supermarket and grabs a couple of grapes and. 00:32:13 Speaker 1: Oh, man, these are different than that. You just know. You pay for it. 00:32:17 Speaker 3: When you run the light and it's turning yellow and it's about to turn red and you keep going and you keep going. 00:32:22 Speaker 1: Damn! Glasses does that. 00:32:26 Speaker 2: He doesn't talk about anybody. 00:32:29 Speaker 1: He doesn't talk about anybody. He thinks that because he's pleasant. We have a phone with glasses. Hey, glasses. Hey, how you doing? He thinks because he's pleasant in the street that he can sit there. Yo. Yo. So I've been on

the phone with glasses, right? It's there, gentlemen. Who the fuck am I on the phone with? I walk in the store, and I tell the aunt, yo, aunt, let me get a bacon, egg, and cheese. No, that's not what I'm saying. You're not even going to say hello to them or nothing like that? What's wrong with you? We get on the phone, and yo, what up, y'all? You're not going to even say hello? What's wrong with you? We just talking about today. We just talking about today. 00:33:13 Speaker 6: Confusing being a mannerable person and being nice. 00:33:16 Speaker 1: Yeah, we talked about that today, Trav. 00:33:18 Speaker 2: I didn't even tell the nigga good afternoon. We just walking to the store and started ordering. 00:33:23 Speaker 1: The nigga around. 00:33:24 Speaker 2: I'm like, bro, why would you treat this nigga like that? 00:33:26 Speaker 1: Let me get a bacon, egg, and cheese. Give me a bacon, egg, and cheese. 00:33:29 Speaker 2: Why are you talking to this man like that? I'm like, get your ass out of my fucking store. I don't know. 00:33:37 Speaker 1: He would tell you to get out because you didn't say hello. Good evening. Good evening. Can I get a turkey, bacon, egg, and cheese? Bacon, yeah, man. 00:33:46 Speaker 2: You don't want to be nice. You don't want to walk into a room and say hi and hello. 00:33:50 Speaker 1: No, because this is New York. What the fuck? 00:33:53 Speaker 2: I look like telling the nigga good morning. That's what the fucking soul say. This is New York. Fuck, I look like telling the nigga good morning. That's what I'm saying. The president is racist and New York. 00:34:04 Speaker 3: So let me ask you a question. We watched seven episodes of The Drop. You show me one scene where someone walks in. 00:34:13 Speaker 1: And they're like, hey, what's up? What's up, homie? What's up, cuz? Yeah, I don't say anything. There's no greetings. There's no greetings. That's what I'm trying to tell you. 00:34:23 Speaker 6: All of y'all talk to each other. 00:34:25 Speaker 1: It's not no New York shit. I'm talking about the drop. They're not saying hello. 00:34:29 Speaker 2: We would never say what I look like telling them. 00:34:31 Speaker 1: Can I have a dozen of Frandy Donuts, please? Get the fuck out of here, man. Exactly. 00:34:37 Speaker 2: Let me get a dozen of glazed donuts. 00:34:44 Speaker 1: You know what? I stand corrected. 00:34:47 Speaker 3: Because when Wanda was climbing through the window and the dog and all that stuff, when she finally saw him, she was like, hey, how you doing? 00:34:55 Speaker 1: He was like, hey, how you doing? 00:34:57 Speaker 2: Hey, hello. 00:34:57 Speaker 1: Hi. Hi. All I'm saying to you is. 00:35:02 Speaker 2: Fuck out of here with that bullshit. 00:35:04 Speaker 1: I digress, right? All I'm saying is artillery... Artillery? No, it's just ridiculous. They know New Yorkers is ruled by law. We are not ruled. 00:35:13 Speaker 6: Their calling card is being ruled. 00:35:16 Speaker 1: Listen, listen. 00:35:17

Speaker 9: Me coming to your store to patronize your, me patronizing your store is me saying hello. 00:35:24 Speaker 1: What's going on? 00:35:25 Speaker 2: The reason why we are the way we are though, right? 00:35:27 Speaker 1: This is the reason why we are the way we are. It's all love. Y'all don't deal with as many people as we deal with a day. Know what I'm saying? So we're not saying hello to every person that we see. We're not chucking loot at every person we see. We are dealing with thousands of hundreds of thousands of people every day, B. We're not in these small cities. We're not in these small cities that got 50,000 people there. You got to try to smile over there. You know what I'm saying? But we're from L.A. We're from L.A. There's 3 to 5 million people. You can't even smile. 00:36:06 Speaker 2: I still be. 00:36:07 Speaker 1: Like, hey, hello. If I go to the grill, it's not like New York. 00:36:11 Speaker 2: If I go to the Grinch's place, I'm like, hey, how you guys doing? 00:36:14 Speaker 1: Everywhere he go, he says nice things to people, how they doing. 00:36:16 Speaker 2: That's not even nice. 00:36:17 Speaker 1: That's not nice. That's not nice. That's not nice. They got L.A. hospitality. Is that called L.A. hospitality? That's great manners. Now, the South is different. They'll give you some tea if you're thirsty and shit. I ain't doing that. I'm in the South. I'm in the South. 00:36:37 Speaker 2: I was in the South, and it was that nigga Tip. Let me tell you the truth. This nigga Tip, right? So I had texted him, and I realized I got an old number on Tip. 00:36:46 Speaker 1: He got a new number. 00:36:46 Speaker 2: So I've been texting him. Hey, Tip, we coming out there, man, blah, blah. I know we was talking about doing expeditions. He was telling me this is going to be the time. Me and Prado coming. 00:36:54 Speaker 1: He said he never texts back. I ain't think I hit. 00:36:56 Speaker 6: Him again when I was leaving Miami from Drink Champs, headed to there. 00:37:00 Speaker 1: Hey, we headed there. Let me know, you know? 00:37:01 Speaker 6: Now I'm like, I ain't going to hit him because I know he might be busy. It's fucking T.I. 00:37:05 Speaker 1: So check this out. 00:37:07 Speaker 6: He don't know I'm hitting him. The nigga calls Problem. 00:37:11 Speaker 1: Problem hit him, right? Because Problem got a relation with him. 00:37:13 Speaker 2: Problem said, hey, man, Tip, we out y'all way. You know, we doing that show. He said, yeah, I'm so proud of y'all, man. Y'all got that drop shit going. You know, Tip's like ball going, leg going. You got that show going real good. You know, he's popping in his shit. He's like, who's that over there with you? 00:37:26 Speaker 1: He said, Glasses. 00:37:28 Speaker 2: He said, oh, man, put me on speakerphone. Let me talk to my little Glasses, man. He said, hey, Glasses, I owe you one. Don't forget I owe you. Like, I'm going to make sure I get which. The nigga had a bunch of homecomings and everything. He made it his business. For whatever he said he was going to do, he did it. That was his business, Trap. That's Southern hospitality. 00:37:46 Speaker 3: That ain't no goddamn Southern hospitality. 00:37:49 Speaker 1: That's a real nigga shit. That's a real nigga shit. 00:37:53 Speaker 2: Let me tell y'all something about L.A. 00:37:56 Speaker 1: And New York niggas. The Brooklyn niggas did the same thing for you. The Brooklyn niggas did the same thing. Let me tell you about New York and L.A. niggas together. All of us. You niggas a lie. You niggas a lie. 00:38:08 Speaker 2: You have no chance of knowing what to say if you was going to do. 00:38:11 Speaker 1: I talk pussy. I talk about Q stuff. All you niggas a lie. Niggas be lying. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. 00:38:18 Speaker 3: Hold on. 00:38:18 Speaker 1: Hold on. Real quick. Who did you go do the interview with in Miami? A New York nigga. Who did you go to? 00:38:31 Speaker 2: He took wings. 00:38:32 Speaker 1: He took wings. He took wings. He's from Queens. Who'd you come from? 00:38:42 Speaker 2: I was a bad nigga, Trapp, when you was in Florida. You went right back to New York in a similar way. Right back to not even greeting a man when you walked in his business. You felt like you was in the right because you was finna spend money. 00:38:54 Speaker 1: Like, I'll give you money, nigga. You gonna take whatever I give you. Goddamn. 00:38:57 Speaker 2: The customer's not always right, Trapp. Los Angeles, New York. The customer's not always right. California and New York. The customer is not you fucking selfish asshole. The thing is, it's okay to be dirty. 00:39:10 Speaker 1: Y'all think it's nice. Fucking selfish asshole. 00:39:14 Speaker 2: Listen, I'm talking to all of us. Not just y'all, us too. I can't wait to go. 00:39:20 Speaker 1: To the crib store. I cannot wait to go to the crib store. I'm going to get such a fucking greeting. It better not come from King. It better not come from King. go to In-N-Out? 00:39:30 Speaker 2: You have to go to In-N-Out? Yo, In-N-Out is two times worse than motherfucking Chick-fil-A. Yeah, they greet you about 10 times when you. 00:39:42 Speaker 1: Come through the door. That's because they have sense. Hey, how you doing? Hey, how you doing? Hey, shut the fuck up. One of my fools, man. Look at what you're doing, bro. You didn't tell me I had five times. You told me I had five times. I walked through the door. And look at me talking. 00:40:03 Speaker 9: The nigga at the drive-thru said hi to me. The nigga at the drive-thru said hi to me. I ain't never been to the drive-thru. That's crazy. 00:40:14 Speaker 1: That's crazy. Hey, so what you want me to do when you come out here? I don't trust niggas too friendly, B. I don't want you making my food if you're too friendly, son. Let me tell you something. 00:40:25 Speaker 2: Because you from fucking New York and y'all fucking treacherous. 00:40:28 Speaker 1: You know how we know. 00:40:30 Speaker

9: A good Jamaican restaurant in New York? 00:40:32 Speaker 5: Yo, Lex, how do you know a good Jamaican restaurant in New York, Lex? 00:40:35 Speaker 1: Way I want. Way I want. Way I want. Way I want. They got to have an attitude, B. If I want a good Jamaican restaurant... Look at you. That's what's the spot they cuss you out at when you go at dicks. 00:40:48 Speaker 2: That's Chicago. That's Chicago. That's Chicago. They got one like that. They used to be M & M' s. M & M was the best soul food from L.A. 00:40:57 Speaker 1: We used to go there for the sass. Right. 00:41:00 Speaker 2: You get some pork, you get some turkey chops and some sass on the side. 00:41:02 Speaker 1: I mean, I ain't finna keep bringing your shit out here. Well, I just asked. 00:41:06 Speaker 2: It was something I paid for. 00:41:07 Speaker 1: I mean, I make you get up and go. I mean, I don't work here. They got In-N-Out Chick-fil-A as far as the politeness when you go in there. 00:41:17 Speaker 6: Chick-fil-A, but In-N-Out is right there. 00:41:20 Speaker 1: In-N-Out is right there. 00:41:21 Speaker 3: When a Jamaican restaurant, when the dude's really being nice, he gonna throw a brethren at the end of it. 00:41:25 Speaker 1: But it's gonna be what you want, where you want, where you want. Where you want, brother. That's what he's really doing nice. 00:41:33 Speaker 2: All I'm saying is we can learn a thing or two from the South. We can learn a thing or two from the South. That's all I'm saying. 00:41:40 Speaker 1: You're going to sit here and be fooled by the South. All right, come on. 00:41:42 Speaker 2: Tell them what you said. I'm not saying the South don't got things. I'm telling you, they got a general courtesy. Was that Matthew who said that? 00:41:51 Speaker 1: Was that Matthew who said that? The reason why they're so polite in the South because of their skin? Yeah. Oh, damn. You ain't like that, Trapp. 00:41:59 Speaker 7: That's the reason why they so polite in the South. 00:42:04 Speaker 1: Listen to the argument. 00:42:09 Speaker 2: Listen to the argument they have in episode seven. 00:42:14 Speaker 6: Listen to the argument they have in episode seven. She's arguing, right? 00:42:18 Speaker 2: Because this is Keef is his boy. Keef is his homeboy. His daughter was closest on me, obviously. He said best friend. Yeah, his old boy. This nigga just got shot. You know he sound like, that nigga sound like Kane when they was going to look for the niggas that killed Harold. 00:42:39 Speaker 1: Nigga just killed your cousin, nigga. 00:42:41 Speaker 2: Nigga ain't letting that shit ride, nigga. And all they said is just make your song, bro. Just don't abandon the hood. Now, as soon as he get an opportunity, fuck everybody. That nigga's a buster. 00:42:53 Speaker 1: I think it goes into the story. 00:42:58 Speaker 5: I understand what they're doing right now, though. I think they're bringing in the banging on wax shit. Are they trying to bring that in right there? 00:43:07

Speaker 2: No, it's not about that. 00:43:08 Speaker 1: Oh, I see what you're saying. You know what I'm saying? All of this stuff is real. 00:43:16 Speaker 2: The one thing, like I said, we can argue about the FUBU jersey if it's 92 versus 94, but one thing that's very authentic about this show is how people really grew up in the neighborhood. 00:43:27 Speaker 1: Like, Dara is not a blood. That was her pops? Was that her pops? That's her pops. That's her pops. Her pops is the one. She grew up in the life. We just talked about that, didn't we? 00:43:40 Speaker 2: She just grew up in the life. This her nigga. This all her people. This her little brother. This her best friend. This her daddy. 00:43:49 Speaker 1: Her homeboy. Everybody. 00:43:51 Speaker 6: Artillery is a blood that ain't a blood. 00:43:54 Speaker 1: That ain't a gangbanger. 00:43:56 Speaker 2: That's what I like about this show. This is the first time that they really made that distinguished nuance. This is where they first showed the nuance of. 00:44:03 Speaker 1: People that- For the gang member and the gang banger? What do you mean? Situational. 00:44:08 Speaker 7: Artillery reminds me of Snoop for some reason. I picture Snoop not being a gang banger, but just being- Nah, Snoop Dogg is for 20 quid for real. He may not be- See, there's a difference when you're not an infantry. We're not talking about, are you part of the infantry? You got to think like, A gang, like, less than 10% is part of the infantry. 00:44:27 Speaker 3: Mm-hmm. 00:44:28 Speaker 1: Everybody ain't going to shoot and shit. Think about it. 00:44:30 Speaker 2: If all thousand people from the 60s was going to shoot at HRAs, bro, they'd be dead for every day. 00:44:35 Speaker 1: That'd be mad crazy. You know, I got another question. I don't want to set us back. Keith deserved that shit. Sure. He deserved what happened to him. I never argue. I never argue. Hold on to that. 00:44:50 Speaker 7: Hold on to that, please. 00:44:54 Speaker 3: Was it the responsibility of his brothers and peers at arms to prevent him? They know he's hot wired to stop him. How can they now come back and say, we're going to go harm some cats that did that to Keith, right? When Keith did some shit, what is he being killed for? How does that make sense? 00:45:19 Speaker 5: I've seen that. I've seen that when they said it to Dara. 00:45:24 Speaker 1: About Earl. 00:45:25 Speaker 5: My old boy was the one who got him killed. I kind of felt like I seen in her reaction, like, all right, that makes sense. 00:45:33 Speaker 1: I don't know. I kind of got that from her, though. What's that? 00:45:37 Speaker 2: When she said to Wanda, when Wanda told her, when Wanda told her, yo, that was homeboy. 00:45:44 Speaker 5: That was, what was his name? 00:45:49 Speaker 1: She stays ice cold, though, right? Mm-hmm. But when she said it to her, I kind of seen a reaction, like, all right, now that makes sense. Like, yeah, we did. You know what I'm saying? We did

wild out on him. He did show up to the nigga office with his watch on. You know what I'm saying? He had to get it off. 00:46:06 Speaker 2: But here's the conflict of gangbanging, and this used to be a personal conflict, but I get it. 00:46:14 Speaker 1: What do you do when somebody got it coming? Yeah. Right? Guess what? 00:46:20 Speaker 6: You still got to respond the same way. 00:46:21 Speaker 1: Still got to ride. Still got to ride. It don't matter. 00:46:23 Speaker 2: If me and Lex, with me, I know, right? If me and Lex, me and you were in Lex somewhere, right? Let's say we meet up in Dallas, right? 00:46:30 Speaker 1: We hanging. 00:46:31 Speaker 6: We going to mess with a, shout out to Earl Spence trainer. 00:46:37 Speaker 1: I don't know why it's DJ, right? We going to mess with DJ. 00:46:42 Speaker 2: And it's a nigga Lex that you knocked out 20 years ago. 00:46:46 Speaker 1: I don't know. 00:46:47 Speaker 2: Maybe he did something wrong, but you knocked him out. And that nigga deep. It's him and four other niggas from Queens or something, right? And they like, man, that's the nigga that. 00:46:55 Speaker 1: Knocked him out. Fuck all that. You better ride. Don't put a ride. No, we're going to ride. 00:47:00 Speaker 6: Later on, I'm saying later on, I'm going to be mad at you. 00:47:04 Speaker 1: Like, what the fuck did you do to this man? Right? 00:47:07 Speaker 2: But in that moment, right, like me and King, we cool because when me and King went somewhere, it was a nigga acting like he wanted to do something and Memphis King got right on him and I was like, oh, chill, chill. 00:47:18 Speaker 1: Right? That's the thing. That's expected. 00:47:21 Speaker 2: So, I think in that moment, I remember having those thoughts. Like, damn, man, like, You know, if a nigga had it coming. And Pluck explained to me like, nah, G, it's how they deal with you is everything. Even how they deal with you respectfully is everything. Your homie could be wrong, but it's a respectful way to solve it. And sometimes it's fucked up because I realize you need fear to create that respect. It's not just existing as a human at this level, right? You need a level of like, all right, if we do too much, these niggas finna come back shooting at us. These niggas finna come back shooting. And I hate that, where we from, it needs to be that for people. 00:48:00 Speaker 1: To have sympathy. Right. 00:48:03 Speaker 6: And we all grow up and we start to understand and respect the humanity. 00:48:07 Speaker 1: That's it, right? You just be a human. If you a kid, no, you ain't gonna respect. 00:48:10 Speaker 2: But as every other adult, because you know they making it like you making it, so it's different. 00:48:15 Speaker 6: But when you fucking young and you in the streets, you almost have to use fear against strangers for that. 00:48:23 Speaker 2: And it's to the point now, when I be talking to people, I think they think I'm trying to use fear. 00:48:27 Speaker 6: I'm like, bro,

I communicate. 00:48:29 Speaker 2: Entirely too well to be using fear. I'm not, like, even if me and academics, you never heard me say, man, academics, I'll knock you out. 00:48:38 Speaker 6: I'm not finna say that to no fucking academics. 00:48:40 Speaker 2: It's academics. If I look like telling academics, I would knock him out. What the fuck I would look like knocking... Do you know how bad I would feel if I knocked academics out? 00:48:50 Speaker 3: Why would you feel bad? 00:48:52 Speaker 1: Because he ain't like that. Because he ain't about that life like that. Yeah. His mouth is... Wait, wait, wait. His mouth. 00:48:58 Speaker 9: Beg your differ. 00:49:01 Speaker 4: Yeah, but if he say it now, like you said, it's like picking on him and turning to you, though. 00:49:06 Speaker 1: You don't get no points over that, though, B. That's what the whole shit going on. Wait, wait, wait. Hold on. Why y'all... Why y'all... That's not true. You get points. 00:49:15 Speaker 3: You get points of punching a motherfucker in his mouth who's talking street shit. 00:49:21 Speaker 1: Yes. Yes. You might slap him. He might be in his face. He might be in his face. 00:49:28 Speaker 6: If Ag was popping tough in his face, that's different. 00:49:31 Speaker 2: I'm not talking shit or saying shit. 00:49:34 Speaker 1: Come on, man. Don't miss me with all that. You don't get points. 00:49:38 Speaker 2: No, but that's what I'm talking about. 00:49:41 Speaker 1: You're not arguing on the internet. There's no points in that. 00:49:45 Speaker 3: I wouldn't tell y'all about it, but he still deserves that smack. 00:49:50 Speaker 1: That means you're not getting no points. I understand y'all, the concept. 00:49:56 Speaker 3: All right, let's move on. 00:49:58 Speaker 7: The fear of retaliation, though, can stop a lot of stuff. 00:50:03 Speaker 1: Hold on a second. Let me tell you something, Trapp. I walk around this earth. Look at me. 00:50:10 Speaker 3: When I walk around this earth. 00:50:12 Speaker 1: I treat people with proper respect, right? So if someone, no, listen. So when someone, hold on. 00:50:20 Speaker 3: When I talk to any of you men, when I talk to you men, I talk to y'all with respect. We joke around, but I would never disrespect y'all. What I'm saying is, If it gets to a point. 00:50:31 Speaker 1: Glasses. 00:50:32 Speaker 5: Don't bring it up, glasses. Do not bring it up, glasses. Bring what up? Don't bring it up, bro. Go ahead. 00:50:39 Speaker 1: Let me ask y'all this. Fuck what I was talking about. 00:50:41 Speaker 3: Dara, I want to know what's her mental capacity, what she's going through right now. 00:50:46 Speaker 1: Is she feeling. 00:50:47 Speaker 3: Betrayed by the dude she's dealing with, Leon? Or she's mourning, like... The death of a best friend. Like, where is she at? Because one thing that throws me off is that she's remaining fucking cool. She still looks good. She doesn't give a fuck about her hair. After the fact, Wanda, she meets up with Wanda. She looks like she's about to go to a party. She looks fine. 00:51:11 Speaker 1: So I'm just trying to see where she's at. Why does she feel like she's smoking? 00:51:16 Speaker 2: So if you were here at the initial onslaught of that conversation, Wanda called her. 00:51:21 Speaker 6: But I don't know if y'all see this. Mine is being a part of the script. 00:51:25 Speaker 2: Mine is being a part of the story unfolding and helping mold the story. 00:51:29 Speaker 1: Uh-huh. 00:51:29 Speaker 6: Y'all don't see Wanda working everybody? 00:51:31 Speaker 1: Hell yeah. Like, Wanda called Dara. I didn't see that. That's what she said when she first walked up. Like, what's up? You want to fight or something? So she called her over there. Remember they was at the... She's like, fuck Leon. 00:51:48 Speaker 2: And then proceeded to, after Leon saved her motherfucking life, proceeded. 00:51:53 Speaker 6: To tell her everything that Leon said. 00:51:55 Speaker 2: Don't tell her. Why you think that happened? 00:51:57 Speaker 1: Because she don't want them to be together. Yeah. 00:52:02 Speaker 3: She wanted to ruin that shit. Somebody's getting dropped. She don't get selfish. But guess what? 00:52:09 Speaker 6: Because in true, that's the way she did it for. 00:52:13 Speaker 1: Why? 00:52:16 Speaker 5: Because she said she wanted to get DG out the way. That's why she did it for. 00:52:23 Speaker 2: I was talking to somebody earlier on Billboard, right? 00:52:25 Speaker 1: The Billboard magazine, right? For the show. 00:52:28 Speaker 2: And everybody kept questioning the authenticity of DG's character. 00:52:33 Speaker 6: Like, they was like, I never saw nobody with no hairstyle like that. 00:52:35 Speaker 1: Shit. 00:52:36 Speaker 2: The problem is, and I was trying to explain this to somebody. Okay, so DG is somebody that comes from money. He's a D-boy and he come from money. The average D-boy that we're talking about, like let's say Leon. Leon didn't know nobody with money. Leon from the projects. The closest person they knew to the game, them, was like Jerome who was selling weed. 00:53:01 Speaker 1: Correct. 00:53:01 Speaker 2: So when they decided to kind of start looking fresh, they're finding their own fresh and what's. 00:53:05 Speaker 6: The common things amongst the dope thing. The dope, the dope, the dope guys. 00:53:09 Speaker 1: Right? A person like DG, you know who DG is? 00:53:13 Speaker 6: DG is Genie Lamp from South Central. Remember Genie Lamp? 00:53:19 Speaker 1: The smack dealer. The smack man. I do. 00:53:22 Speaker 2: He's that B-boy that looked up to 50s and 60s ballers. 00:53:29 Speaker 1: With the finger waves and all that. 00:53:32 Speaker 2: You ever notice he don't wear nothing that the average quintessential L.A. 00:53:37 Speaker 1: Street nigga wear? 00:53:39 Speaker 2: He wouldn't be caught dead in it. And that's why if you keep hearing him talk about gang members, look how he's talking about them. 00:53:45 Speaker 1:

Talk down about them all the time. 00:53:47 Speaker 2: And these old broke-ass niggas. That's what got him beat up in the first place. You know what I mean? 30,000 sends you back to shoot niggas across the street. He talks to them from a place of superiority. And here's something I thought about, too, before we kind of come to the end of this thing that. 00:54:03 Speaker 1: Was the last section. It's our. Okay. 00:54:09 Speaker 2: I think what I realize about New York, the reason why New York dope dealing is held in such fashion is because people in New York look up to the money. 00:54:21 Speaker 1: They dress like it too? 00:54:22 Speaker 6: I mean, if you think about early hip hop is very much influenced by D-Boys. 00:54:26 Speaker 3: Correct. 00:54:27 Speaker 1: Hell yeah, for sure. 00:54:29 Speaker 2: Like the ones we celebrate, L & M, Certain Looks, Jam, Jay, Run DMC. 00:54:35 Speaker 1: Right, you know Brown in the movie. You know, all of that, the premise was D-Boy. Yeah, okay. Right? 00:54:42 Speaker 2: And so if you look at it, all the movies that's been made in Hollywood when it comes to street life is about the quintessential New York D-Boy. 00:54:48 Speaker 1: Here's a question, Lex. 00:54:49 Speaker 2: What's the greatest gangster that a movie, New York gangster that a movie was made. 00:54:53 Speaker 1: About in New York? That was more real life? No, that was a gangster. He was just a gangster. Okay. King of New York. Oh, that's my movie. Legs, they don't know about that. Frank White. King of New York? Yeah, Frank White. I never watched it. Oh, really? No. You never seen King of New York, Glasses? 00:55:12 Speaker 3: No. 00:55:12 Speaker 1: That's what Biggie got his name from. I don't know if it's Angeles. I thought Biggie got his name from Frank White. That's Frank White. So again, right? 00:55:26 Speaker 2: A lot of the quintessential movies, Nicky Barnes got a movie. Frank Lucas got a movie. It's a different reverence for money and D-boys. In L.A., we look up to gangsters. You could be the brokest nigga in the world. As long as you was pressing your line and making niggas bow to your will, you gonna be up. 00:55:46 Speaker 1: I think that's kind of... Nah. I ain't expecting no broke-ass gangster, B. I'm trying to get the nigga to get some money. 00:55:56 Speaker 7: Because they never got to see the beginning of what gang members dress like in the beginning. 00:56:01 Speaker 1: They got to see what gang members dress like later on. 00:56:04 Speaker 6: But even then, the gang members in the beginning dressed, they didn't have no money. 00:56:08 Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. They wasn't wearing khakis and stuff in the beginning. 00:56:10 Speaker 2: I'm saying, but they didn't have no money in the beginning. So they was emulating. They didn't look like the way the other money looked like. 00:56:16 Speaker 1: It's not that. It's the things that we hold sacred. Correct. 00:56:20 Speaker 2: Like New York, money is held sacred a little different. I mean, but it is, like, to Trapp's point, it is a surge of population. It is a surge of, like, everybody's on top of each other. It is thousands and thousands of people next to each other all the time, right next to each other. 00:56:34 Speaker 1: So I guess that can create a sense of separation. For us, it's power. Right? 00:56:40 Speaker 2: It's, like, true power. Like, that's what we really have a reverence for. 00:56:44 Speaker 1: You feel like true power could come along without having the money, though, too? Yeah, because money just rents power. Yeah, facts. 00:56:51 Speaker 6: Money don't have power. Like, you know it get power. but money with rent power. 00:56:56 Speaker 2: Somebody like Puff, bro, we'd have turned Puff outside down and put the change out of his pocket. He'd have had to find a thousand dollars. 00:57:02 Speaker 1: No, you would not have. No, you would have not. No, you would not. Hold on. He is legacy. What? He is. 00:57:11 Speaker 7: You see what they did to DG? 00:57:16 Speaker 5: Puff had to get them gangsters around him, though. That's why he wouldn't have got Wolf. That's why he wouldn't have got the boys. 00:57:21 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? What's his name? Think about it. That's why DG went and got Keith. He didn't grow up with none of them dudes. Yeah. 00:57:30 Speaker 2: Remember, what's that? What's funny is DG is Puff. Yeah, went and got Keith and shit. 00:57:36 Speaker 1: Come on, man. 00:57:39 Speaker 3: Puff Daddy is legacy of the underworld, y'all. 00:57:43 Speaker 2: No, no, no, no. Even the story of his pops ain't necessarily nothing to. 00:57:48 Speaker 1: His pops? Watch out for his moms! What? 00:57:51 Speaker 6: Yeah, but that's not going to work. 00:57:54 Speaker 1: Okay. 00:57:54 Speaker 2: I'm telling you, all I'm saying, Lex, is it's a reverence that we have for gangsters. I get Traff's point. I do really think, because you got to think Freeway had more money than Frank Lucas and Nicky Barnes put together. But Freeway don't get no motherfucking extra love around this motherfucker the way he should. 00:58:12 Speaker 1: True, Lex. Yeah. 00:58:14 Speaker 2: Niggas do not celebrate Freeway, Lex. Niggas don't celebrate bro, bo. Niggas don't celebrate 2D Reese. None of these rich ass, I'm talking about Lex, ridiculously rich D-boys. 00:58:27 Speaker 6: Niggas don't even care. You know who niggas celebrate? 00:58:29 Speaker 1: Tookie. Monster Cody. The Power. Rank one? No. No. But you know what the niggas were doing? Trap? 00:58:43 Speaker 2: They was making niggas bend to they will. And if you have one, you're going to win to the wheel. Or you're going to have to pay somebody to go do something. Because they was going to press a line on you. So I was thinking about that. And that's why DG looks so foreign. Because he is from a different lineage of guys. He's really a guy that looked up to rich guys in the 50s, 60s, and 70s. 00:59:06 Speaker 6: His styling is like that. He

don't look at Leon Adler. 00:59:10 Speaker 1: His equal. 00:59:12 Speaker 2: Whether y'all see that, even when he was just talking about him in episode 7, he was like, she brought all these fucking fleas here. 00:59:18 Speaker 1: Leon. 00:59:19 Speaker 2: Nigga, Leon got money like you, nigga. But he don't see Leon like that. He probably see Leon as new money. and then nigga just start getting some money. These niggas first generation. You know how them niggas like? Niggas just first generation money. 00:59:31 Speaker 7: You don't think these people get Leon like protection or something? 00:59:34 Speaker 1: No. 00:59:35 Speaker 6: Man, that nigga told Leon nigga, man, I, what? 00:59:39 Speaker 1: Well, say that because they all met up in this episode. 00:59:42 Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's because Leon is a gangster. 00:59:45 Speaker 1: But maybe think they have something going on with each other because of that. 00:59:48 Speaker 2: They do, but the thing they all respect about Leon is he is a gangster. 00:59:52 Speaker 1: They don't even respect his money. They respect all these stories. 00:59:57 Speaker 2: If you think about how Snowfall developed Leon, Leon is making Franklin tough. 01:00:03 Speaker 6: Franklin is a buster. He go see Franklin in jail. 01:00:06 Speaker 2: Franklin beat up that nigga, say, nigga, you better find the biggest nigga up in this motherfucker and whoop on him. 01:00:12 Speaker 1: That's what they said. 01:00:12 Speaker 2: You better show these niggas. 01:00:13 Speaker 1: Who you with. 01:00:14 Speaker 2: That nigga is the gangster. So his respect ain't the money amongst the community. His respect is that everybody knew he was on some gangster shit. 01:00:23 Speaker 1: He just happened to have money. That's Turtle. That's Hotch. That's Del Dog. All of the gangsters, they gangsters. 01:00:32 Speaker 6: And then you respect they gangsters first, and then they got money second. 01:00:36 Speaker 1: I have a question. Yeah. 01:00:41 Speaker 3: Because we're focusing on Leon a little bit. This is the question I wrote. It's right here. 01:00:45 Speaker 1: I wrote the question. Got it. That's the third question. Got it. All right. So here's the question. 01:00:50 Speaker 3: Can someone genuinely leave street life behind while continuing to benefit from the credibility it provides? 01:01:05 Speaker 2: What's actually leaving street life behind? 01:01:13 Speaker 1: We know his history. 01:01:15 Speaker 4: What are you saying? Like not being active in the streets, not being active. 01:01:19 Speaker 1: Just Leon or just in general. 01:01:21 Speaker 2: But Leon even now is active in the streets. His activity looks different. Like it's not it's not one specific activity that's respected in the streets. Being in the streets amongst the people is being in the streets. You don't got to sell dope to be in the streets. Long as you OK with being amongst the people. But he saw the cassettes like dope in the streets. You remember that? He was

able to get down there. It was like he was doing dope in the streets. They went from dropping shit off to a couple gangbangers to the whole majestic car club becoming their distribution hub and posting up at the rhodium or at the swap meet dumping their CDs with all the low-riders. 01:01:57 Speaker 1: So he didn't leave the streets, Lex. 01:01:59 Speaker 2: Nah, that dude is right. You see he had gang members in his office. 01:02:02 Speaker 1: Hold on, hold on. 01:02:03 Speaker 2: When he met in the restaurant, you seen they was outside around looking. 01:02:07 Speaker 1: That's not legal. 01:02:08 Speaker 2: I know what you're saying, Lex, but I just think... I think to reduce being down in the streets is kind of one of the biggest deceptive things that we've been doing over the last 20 years. Do you have to be an active killer? 01:02:20 Speaker 1: No. I don't think so. 01:02:22 Speaker 3: But that goes for every character we're talking about, though. Like, you're benefiting from. 01:02:33 Speaker 1: the credibility that the streets provide. Like, yeah, you about the street, but you're not nowhere near this anymore. No, y'all made a great point. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 01:02:42 Speaker 6: I don't know. So Leon is not who we talk about. 01:02:45 Speaker 1: Leon's still in the street. When I wrote this down, it was for Leon. 01:02:49 Speaker 2: But you were writing down, Lex. 01:02:51 Speaker 1: You don't feel like you're in the street still? No, no, no, no, no. 01:02:56 Speaker 3: I know that it's a different, your senses are working differently. When I'm hustling, than when I'm selling T-shirts or CDs. 01:03:04 Speaker 1: But the customer is not part of the street stall, Lex. I think that's what he's saying. That's what he's saying. 01:03:10 Speaker 6: He's saying now that he's not committing crime. 01:03:13 Speaker 1: So crime's got to be streets. You don't know what white-collar crimes is. But that's not street. He's right. Crime is street. 01:03:19 Speaker 6: Crime is happening in the streets. 01:03:21 Speaker 1: That's what separates the streets. 01:03:22 Speaker 2: Now, it don't mean everybody's a criminal or crime is different. 01:03:25 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I want to see how you got Leon mixed in asking that question. 01:03:28 Speaker 2: Well, because Leon is still in the midst of crimes. Yeah, but he was acting like Leon left the streets. Because he said Leon left selling dope. Oh, so that was his. 01:03:41 Speaker 1: He's right. 01:03:41 Speaker 3: And he still benefits from his. 01:03:45 Speaker 1: Reputation. Right, thank you. 01:03:47 Speaker 6: Yeah, but that's because he also keep putting it on the line. 01:03:51 Speaker 2: If you go to another nigga hood and meet him out of Burger Stand and Louie's and to solve a problem with a room full of niggas that don't like you just because of where you from. 01:03:59 Speaker 6: That type of thing is a thing of legends. That's a thing of legend. 01:04:04 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? 01:04:04 Speaker 2: Like him fucking with what would be the princess of block nine bloods. That's a thing of legend. Like keep telling nigga, like, you know, she trying to fuck with Leon. Like that shit means something. So it's, it's, it's in a, it's in a, it's a very, that's. 01:04:21 Speaker 1: A vacuum talk about just the crime part of it. 01:04:24 Speaker 2: Because that's the streets. Ain't no white collar person in the streets. They just criminals. The streets is where lifestyle comes into play. Lifestyle shapes everything. 01:04:34 Speaker 1: Yeah, but just because Leon don't sell drugs doesn't mean he's not from the streets. I agree. I agree. 01:04:41 Speaker 6: And he's still in the streets actively. 01:04:42 Speaker 1: Yeah. 01:04:44 Speaker 2: But he is doing some things, right, where it's not every day he's committing a crime. 01:04:51 Speaker 1: Because he still committing crimes. He committed crimes his whole fucking season. Let's just say we all commit crimes now. What do you mean? Yeah, you want to win. 01:05:00 Speaker 3: What I'm saying is that, what I'm saying, King, is this. When I was hustling, right, I was very on point, and it changed my perspective, right? But let's say I started a business selling newspapers or cutting grass in the hood or whatever. Whatever I'm doing, fixing cars, whatever I'm doing, I don't have to have that same. 01:05:24 Speaker 1: Sense of defense up. You know what I mean? But my pass also. 01:05:32 Speaker 3: Cloaks me and keeps me protected because catch me up. 01:05:36 Speaker 1: I don't know if that's Leon. 01:05:37 Speaker 2: I think Leon is still actively building his legend. 01:05:40 Speaker 1: That's my thing. I think he's transitioning. I think he's transitioning. 01:05:45 Speaker 2: I think he could be transitioning completely out. He's just not there yet. Because if that was the case, he wouldn't be involved in half of this shit. So you think Leon could transition all the way out from the streets? 01:05:54 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, no, not necessarily. Hustle doing crimes. 01:05:59 Speaker 2: Man, this nigga, as soon as the police walk in his office, there's a gun on his desk. He got him. 01:06:05 Speaker 1: Like, transition to what? 01:06:07 Speaker 2: Lex? 01:06:08 Speaker 1: I think it's in some of us. It's just in us the rest of our life. It's just that way. I don't care where we go, what we do. We just part the streets. It's just us. 01:06:18 Speaker 6: There you go. 01:06:20 Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go. When you went to college, you transitioned out the street. 01:06:26 Speaker 6: You hunting wabbits. When you went to Howard, you transitioned, Lex. 01:06:30 Speaker 1: When you went to Howard, you was gone. 01:06:32 Speaker 6: You left the street. That's a speed shooting gun. 01:06:36 Speaker 2: That didn't even make an echo. That's a speed shooting gun. You shooting plates? Trap looking up at the dick butt. That's funny. 01:06:49 Speaker 1: Oh my God, like the Brady butt. Oh, am I looking at

Lex? Yeah, you looking at Lex. Yeah, you looking at Lex. 01:06:58 Speaker 2: All right, Lex, favorite character, episode seven. 01:07:07 Speaker 1: Damn, Lex. I'm going to go with, I'm going to go with Leon. I think Leon. I'm going to go with Leon. I'm going to leave it at that. Wow. Nothing else, huh? Okay, Trap. Favorite character, episode seven. 01:07:25 Speaker 5: So, you know what's crazy, though? So, I just realized, like, last week, that this is, like, the pieces that everybody's playing in the notes. So, I realized who the lawyer is. The Leonard dude? 01:07:39 Speaker 1: Leonard Vance? Leonard Vance. 01:07:41 Speaker 3: Vance, yeah. 01:07:42 Speaker 5: It's playing David Kennett right there, basically. I didn't realize that shit coming into it. I'm like, oh, this is David Kennett right there, basically. He's moving pieces around. He's basically doing everything. He's playing the background and moving the pieces, I feel like. 01:07:55 Speaker 1: He the one that got keep killed. He ain't got keep killed. 01:07:58 Speaker 2: That nigga say, oh, yeah, and that nigga Tyron Peace, you probably got to do something about that. 01:08:02 Speaker 1: Damn! 01:08:03 Speaker 5: Exactly, exactly. He's moving the pieces around. I seen him do some shit this episode, though, too. So I'm going to go with him on this one right here. 01:08:10 Speaker 1: Hold on. The white guy, huh? You know, that's not right. The white guy, okay. The white guy starts right there. He got his foot in the door. You know what? Let me advance. You know what? 01:08:25 Speaker 3: Let me not do Leon like that. Let me just say one thing. Let me get 10 seconds. I think the duality of his character, he's shown me so much depth. And to me, at first, you would think from where I'm standing, this story's about Wanda. But because of where I come from, This story's more about the decisions Leon's making, man. And I see myself in the decisions he's making, how he's helping Wanda so much. And sometimes, guys, we have people in our life that we... like, I feel like he wants to get away. 01:08:58 Speaker 1: He's still pulling. He's still in it. Like, y'all, you know, y'all corrected me. He's still in it. 01:09:03 Speaker 3: And it's just this, you know, and we all know the rule that you can't have one foot in and one foot out. You got to, whatever, you got to do it. But now maybe that's a lie. Maybe it's a lie. If you stay on point, maybe you can't have one foot in and one foot out. But I'm watching him, man. But he's still the star of this episode for me. 01:09:23 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Timmy, favorite episode, favorite character episode? I'm going to say Dara. Dara's a win again. 01:09:32 Speaker 4: Dara's a doll. 01:09:34 Speaker 1: Hey, that's exactly what it is. She hard, man. 01:09:37 Speaker 4: And then I'm just watching how her character is evolving and then the decision making that she's doing. And then you just brought up a really good point, too, when you brought up the fact that she ain't even a blood. She is part of the life, no matter what. So she, I mean, she probably grew up. 01:09:55 Speaker 1: She's not blood? 01:09:57 Speaker 2: No, she's in a weird situation that's a nuanced thing. You got to be from out here to kind of see it. It be them people raised in the hood, and they family is everything, and they don't got to be nothing. 01:10:08 Speaker 3: So she can tell, so the bloods can be beating someone's ass. She can walk up and say, stop. Or she can have someone get their head cut off, and she's not blood? 01:10:17 Speaker 1: Yep. It's a little more trickier, right? 01:10:19 Speaker 2: Like, even when they whooped DG over her, they was disrespecting the big homegirl daughter. 01:10:24 Speaker 1: There you go. The big homeboy daughter. the G homie that started to set his daughter. 01:10:29 Speaker 2: Remember the pops had artillery in there and they were from the DP, man. Put him off the set and all that. And pops said, what the fuck you think you about to do with this motherfucker? And that's her dad. Remember she explained the whole story. I got to take care of my dad now. The shit bag that fucked him up. Blah, blah, blah. And they was finna press a line on artillery on some buster shit because they felt like he was on some buster shit. 01:10:53 Speaker 6: And the pop said, he in a wheelchair. Maybe I don't go somewhere. 01:10:57 Speaker 1: That's power. So leave him alone. Just leave him alone. 01:11:00 Speaker 2: He ain't doing nothing to him. That's her dad. I know that person. But you see her fucking with a crypto, Lex. So it's just different. I know that person. It's such a nuanced experience for that person. 01:11:19 Speaker 1: It's a power thing, Leg. It's a power thing, Leg. Her character's dope. Dark ain't gonna fuck with any Crip. She gotta fuck with everyone else. And her character is really flushing out. I get that. 01:11:28 Speaker 6: She's gonna be real special in season two. 01:11:29 Speaker 1: I agree. All right, King, your favorite character? This one, episode seven, I'm gonna say Wanda. Tell me what. Of course, it's the crackhead. Fucking crackhead. Everybody deserves love, Trav. Everybody deserves love. 01:11:46 Speaker 7: Because this is really putting everybody that Wanda's dealing with is now starting to put them all against each other. She's making deals here. That's going to conflict with this person over here. And she's just telling people what they want to hear now to the point where she called Dara and telling Dara what she wants to hear now. And that's what her character did this whole show to me. Everybody, when she tried to talk to Lamar, when she talked to artillery, when she, you know what I'm saying? She's telling everybody what they want to hear because she's really caring about herself. 01:12:15 Speaker 4: Bitch, I remember when we talked about Wanda, I think a couple episodes ago. 01:12:20 Speaker 1: But that's why it's Wanda for me because she's really the center of this episode.

Right. All the way through and it leads off to what the fuck Wanda saying to Dara? 01:12:28 Speaker 7: You know, what plan, you know, what play did Wanda got up her sleeves? 01:12:31 Speaker 1: She's piecing everybody. 01:12:31 Speaker 7: And her being the old crackhead with, you know, scandalous ways got everybody like. 01:12:36 Speaker 1: Got that crackhead game. 01:12:39 Speaker 7: And that's why I say it's her because they left us off with her like, what the fuck is Wanda up to her scandalous ass? 01:12:45 Speaker 3: Can I show you something? I didn't want to get into it, but this is what I wrote. 01:12:50 Speaker 1: I can't see that, Lex. Look, Wanda, artist versus ambition. That's not what you said. You said Leon, Lex. 01:12:58 Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no, no. 01:12:59 Speaker 3: I just wanted to talk about Wanda. I'm just showing that I wrote that because This is the first episode I didn't like Wanda. I didn't like her. 01:13:09 Speaker 1: What? This is the first episode I didn't like Wanda. 01:13:11 Speaker 2: Bunny Legs tracking it as I watch the story, being a part of writing the story, this is kind of why I started to be like, I don't know about Wanda. 01:13:18 Speaker 1: Yeah, she knows some shady shit. She knows some shady shit. She knows some shady shit. My favorite character is Lamar. Lamar got me. Yeah, Lamar working me, bro. Fuck. 01:13:28 Speaker 2: Because I'd be so mad at his motherfucking stupid ass. He's got a little selfish dick. Yeah, but I do appreciate he's standing up on everybody. That nigga told Artillery, nigga, you over here bitching. I said, ooh, that's squabble words. I like how he made Artillery run, and he thought that J-Logo pass was going to work, and they fired it. 01:13:48 Speaker 1: That pass got revoked. Boom, they tied it up. I knew he was going to be up in episode eight. I can't wait to see that one. 01:13:54 Speaker 2: I like his character art is finally coming to a place of where he's becoming a man, and at the last episode, he sacrificed himself to help Artillery. 01:14:05 Speaker 1: Okay, so you think he's going to become accountable? I don't know if that's going to happen. 01:14:09 Speaker 2: I'm just saying, I could appreciate him getting off his real thoughts in person on artillery. Even if he disagreed with his brother, him standing up for himself and saying, I could always respect a man coming into their own, standing up for themselves. What would really push it over for me is when Chris was chasing them and that nigga told Artillery, go on, man, they're going to kill you. 01:14:31 Speaker 1: Me, I'll be cool. They're going to kill you. 01:14:34 Speaker 2: Artillery ran, he just stayed right there and And then he tried to hit that and say, man, J-Loco my brother. Man, fuck you and him. 01:14:41 Speaker 1: So you feel that was the first moment he wasn't selfish? 01:14:44 Speaker 7: Yes. 01:14:44 Speaker 1: I feel like James finally got to him. He sacrificed. He sacrificed. He's entering the Tariq zone. You remember from Power? Yeah. He's in that space for me. You know what I mean? We're going to see the real Wanda now. Wanda working the room, for real, for real. She working the whole room. 01:15:14 Speaker 2: Good looking out for tuning in to the No Ceilings Podcast. Please do us a favor and subscribe, rate, comment, and share. This episode was recorded right here on the west coast of the USA and produced by the Black Effect Podcast Network and iHeartRadio. 01:15:27 Speaker 1: Yeah.