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The Trickster God has tested the Asgardian gods’ patience for the last time. Ever the treasonous brethren, scapegoat, and foe to the gods, Loki stands trial as Odin hands down an unthinkably cruel punishment in the wake of the impending prophecy.

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00:00:02Luki stood at the bow of the ship the horizon stretched endlessly before him almost as though they could sail forever and never reach a destination but lowkey knew where this journey and that he knew that he sailed to his death it was almost peaceful the sounds of the
00:00:24ocean lapping against their terrible ship the crew grumbled and labored but they were somber and focused a breeze pushed against his coat and soup to the many scars on his face and the ones around his wrists look he's anger was once like a wildfire rampant furious and all
00:00:45consuming but now it was focused and intentional he understood why this was his destiny took comfort in knowing that the I. S. year had brought this upon themselves the guards would soon here that he had broken free of his bondage they would do with they were always meant
00:01:05to do and prepare for battle he turned and faced his crew their faces eager their refined muscles tense their eyes murderous their heads all turned to the sky the great horned sounded like it was coming from everywhere at once the ocean trembled and the ship began to rock
00:01:30amongst the growing waves the crew grunted and shifted their weight nervously Loki could not help but smile the great phone sounds Ragnarok is welcome to mythology on the par casts network I'm your host and narrator Vanessa Richardson every Tuesday we present dramatic stories from ancient mythology and explore
00:02:06their origins at par cast we're grateful for you our listeners you allow us to do what we love let us know how we're doing reach out on Facebook and Instagram at park cast and Twitter at par cast network and if you enjoyed today's episode the best way to
00:02:24help us is to leave a five star review wherever you're listening it really does help us we also now have merch had to park has to dot com slash merch for more information today is our third and final episode on the Norse god Loki a figure prevalent within
00:02:42Norse mythology but one whose motivations and purpose have been the subject of debate for centuries it's important to remember that the source material for Norse mythology is incredibly thin the figure of Loki in particular is an extremely complicated character and his motivations and overall position amongst the Norse
00:03:03gods is somewhat murky in these episodes we've taken a sympathetic stance toward Loki and tried to shape the story from his perspective with a hope to understand his actions time plays a very important role in Norse mythology the three entities known as the norns have woven the tapestry
00:03:29of time in an intricate and inescapable way the fates of all beings are sealed even those of the gods some try to push against it some simply ignore it their response for the most is how we would assume all individuals would respond if they were to discover a
00:03:48terrible fate except of course for their treatment of Loki it's assumed that from the time odan learns of the prophecy of Ragnarok he knows that Loki and his children will fight against the gods and yet Odin the all father allows Loki to live in as guard as a
00:04:07companion and blood brother so the mystery and one of the most troubling things about Loki's character is the question of why Oden and the gods allow this why would they keep a god they know will become a trader so close at hand why would the ancient Norse people
00:04:26craft such a character surely would be easier to make the enemy of the gods a powerful character that lives and thrives in your time the land of chaos perhaps it's that Loki is not so much a character created out of logic but for the purpose of representing the
00:04:44idea of consequence when the gods bind his children the sure his resentment when Frank tries to save Balder from his prophecy death the hypocrisy of the I a seer angers Loki and he makes sure that he dies when they punish Loki for his actions it only solidifies that
00:05:05he will become a traitor the gods are responsible for everything that Loki becomes and the god of mischief is there to assure that they are held accountable Loki is consequence Loki is the retribution for our wrongs Loki is a reminder of responsibility he's a vessel to right the
00:05:27ship of fate but even the trickster god does not look forward to his destinies and that is why after he confessed his crimes against boulder at the banquet he chooses to hide from the gods in the mountains his days were peaceful it felt nice to bask in the
00:05:47sun away from the bustle of as guard he lived in a modest comfortable hot he took on the form of the deer in the goats hopping up the mountain with graceful strides holds sturdy and confident against the hilly terrain he gazed out upon the beauty of Midgard he
00:06:06never much understood humans and rarely did the interact with them as Odin did their world was rough and primitive but they lived in a happy ignorance on aware of the dark days ahead unaware the wheel of the apocalypse had begun turning in his solitude Loki began to realize
00:06:27the inefficiencies of his methods the first was his fishing he thought the shape of the river made it possible to catch not one but many fish at once he used pieces of twine and with deft fingers began to weave them together he soon realized that if you loop
00:06:45the strings so that it formed a diamond if you pulled its corners the whole thing would stretch taught but when loosened it was malleable and could be used as a bag he used the invention he very cleverly named a fishing net to cast into the river the device
00:07:03worked spectacularly and his catches were plenty and bountiful and so time passed Loki felt no regret for his role in killing Balder it was after all a thing that the gods brought upon themselves their punishment for trying to challenge the norns those beings that determine the destiny of
00:07:23all things but he knew the day like himself were emotional beings and those emotions did not dissipate easily so he was not surprised when the procession of gods crested the hill in the distance and closed in on his heart with the relaxed but focus to pace %HESITATION he
00:07:46knew that it was fruitless to run that no matter what he did the outcome would be the same but he would not be Loki if he did not try to fool them one last time so when the gods reach the cabin they found it empty the fire on
00:08:06the logs fresh we've just missed in patients though as you said he was just here in this very hot we must look around here for clues look around my dear tear I thought you were supposed to have a sense of logic about you I can practically reach across
00:08:23this hot from one end to the other I don't know what type of secret you think it might hold look around he says here %HESITATION didn't come look at this on the five the fire burns in a strange pattern I've never seem to behave so it seems our
00:08:42witchy friend has been doing some inventing but what does it do it did not take the gods long to deduce that due to the proximity of the stream to the hot the net that was burning in the fire must have been used for fishing the gods looked upon
00:08:58it and admired the dept craftsmanship and brilliantly simple design it is another great gift the son of level has given us even in this time of crisis the three gods hung their heads and briefly allow themselves to feel sorrow at the task in front of them though Loki
00:09:17had his faults he'd been a valuable ally and entertaining companion they did not pursue their duty in capturing him with joy in their hearts but soon they remembered the slaying of boulder who all knew was good and fair and they re focus their attention store tear and Odin
00:09:40went back outside to survey the land Loki could not have left the way they had come or they would have spotted him on one side of the heart was a great cliff and they would have easily seen him climbing down on the other side was a great mountain
00:09:55and from their position they had an excellent view of its entire face then the store looked upon the stream it meandered through the valley and ended in a great waterfall that empty to the sea I know what look is done we must make his net the gods found
00:10:14the twine Loki used in this hot and went to work copying the pattern they found in the fire from the burnt net study now we need to cast into the river nearest the waterfall lusty slip underneath the net on their first cast the god saw flicker in the
00:10:30river a magnificent spotted salmon darted to the side of the net it glimmer in the river as it darted effortlessly through the water but when it made it safely past the net and turned back upstream the god saw that the salmon's eyes were green once more than this
00:10:50time make sure than that stretches from end to end the gods cast again but this time the salmon ducked underneath the net and hovered at the bottom of the river again this time we'll wait the bottom of the net and cover the whole river the gods castanet one
00:11:07final time but this time as they closed in on the salmon it swam with blinding speed towards the net and left over the net floor so quickly that the salmon successfully cleared the net it would land in the water fall and escape out to sea Thor leapt from
00:11:28the shore of the river grasp the salmon in midair and landed in a crouch on the rivers other bank the fish struggled against him with a ferocious strength with Thor holding the salmon so tight that he changed the form of all salmon to be thin around the tail
00:11:48when the salmon finally gave up it flopped helplessly on the ground until he transformed into Loki who lay exhausted on the ground before the three gods he turned to look up at them and the gleaming sun light and he smiled the chase is over then you will return
00:12:07with us to as guard at once Loki was captured now the gods turned their attention to coming up with the most justifiably cruel punishment they could think of coming up we'll hear about the punishment of the gods and the terrible fate of Loki have you heard the news
00:12:32park cast has released its first ever fiction podcast minds by it's about homicide detective Kate Maclay who's plagued by nightmares and then lists her radio journalist husband to help her get to the bottom of her horrifying dreams in the process Kate fights against psychology unsolved crimes her own
00:12:52family and even a serial killer if you love true crime podcasts mysterious audio dramas and psychological thrillers like I do mind's eye is definitely the show for you I've listened to the first few episodes and was hooked right away and be sure to stay tuned to the end
00:13:09of our show to hear a teaser search mind's eye wherever you listen to podcasts or visit park cast dot com slash of mines outside to start listening now mines by the scariest monsters are those hiding inside our own minds now back to the story the time for the
00:13:32punishment of Loki had begun the gods brought him to a dark and cold cave where all the residents of as guard gathered like ravenous children Loki faced them defiantly and let his eyes fixated on each member of the pathetic crowd he would remember them he would remember the
00:13:53cowards who only emerged to face him when he was bound from the crowd Odin emerged with his patched high he donned a cloak made of the wolf's hide and be decked his arm with fabulous jewels his white hair was pulled back in a tight bun that stretch the
00:14:13corners of his face giving him a menacing look there was no love for humor in his eyes eyes that were fixed on Loki as the crowd parted before him the look he was naked and covered with filth and sweat he stood straighter and faced the all father with
00:14:33defiance as he approached the all father stopped in front of Loki and raised his hand Loki son of loud voice you are charged with conspiracy to commit murder against Balder the god of light purity in the summer sun your charged with causing harm and irreparable pain to every
00:14:54god both by Assyrian veneer who live in as guard and you owed him not charged with trite formalities and incredibly found breath these are the greatest crimes ever committed against as guard guard against god can against can do you a tone a tone how does one atone for
00:15:16becoming what they were born to become how does one the tone for becoming what they are made I have merely been what I always was to be and nothing more I have accepted this accepted the torments of my fate can you say the same you guards stand there
00:15:37with your fingers pointing accusations and your G. is shouting condescension and yet you've done nothing but try to deny your fate to avoid it to live a pleasant life a false life do I a tone Odin my brother I cannot to tone from my destiny but as you
00:16:02punish me I ask yourself is the guard that creates a monster a monster themselves %HESITATION on a something much Wes a silence hung over the whole of the cave and the gods cast their eyes on the ground in shame Odin Loki stood facing each other one standing tall
00:16:25in fabulous regal garments the other naked and fully exposed very well then then Loki site the briefest glimmer of sadness and pain flashed across Odin's face it was fleeting but powerful enough to shake the fortified walls Loki had built around his emotions it awakened a tenderness within him
00:16:49that he thought was buried away long ago then the look was gone replaced by a menacing and vicious stare powerful enough to slay a human with one glance break that gathered gods parted ways for a new procession fray and tear dragged to shackled men they were beaten and
00:17:11distraught and tried to keep up with the powerful strides of their captors but they kept slipping on the cave floor they were thrown in the space before Odin Loki when they looked up slowly at Loki their faces barely looked human each had an ice Willin shot their noses
00:17:31were in gorged and their lips bled openly so pummeled where they that the two could not close their mouths so they hung open in stupefying pain we're crimson red saliva drooled to the floor their faces were covered in dark cake don blood the crack to the creases of
00:17:52their foreheads then Loki recognize them what is the meaning of this for your crimes against the gods of as guard Loki son of love the way they will my crimes not this for your terrible insistence on committing treason against your own can release them punish me your sentence
00:18:12to be bound forever to this cave release my sons and the last thing you shall witness Odin the please shall be the true horrors of committing crimes against one's own kin dar Fabian valley sons of Loki stand before your father so that he may accept his punishment cut
00:18:37their minds father other forgive them they are blind with rage you must not subject yourself to the same weakness of spirit the guards turned valley into a great wolf and infected his mind with uncontrollable rage against North please we've shared many bones and many cups of wine together
00:19:06this is not your mind this is not who you are yeah lowkey watched as one of his sons ripped the other to shreds he watched nor fees blood spray across the wall he watched nor fees neck dangle from where valley the wolf's jaws severed it he looked into
00:19:36north fees lifeless eyes frozen in a moment of terror and the gods laughed the shouted taunts and called Loki's children the sons of a **** they delighted in the slaughter Loki felt his strength drain from him he would have collapsed if not for the strong arms holding him
00:19:58upright the cold cave now felt hot and claustrophobic as though everything was closing in on him to crush every speck of humanity out of him the echoing laughter dying screams of his sons Odin's hard piercing eyes the maddening drip of water the cold wind singing off the walls
00:20:23of the cave all these things collapsed upon him and pressed and squeezed him wringing out his joy his laughter his hatred his range it'll fell from him without discrimination until he was a dried out and brittle statue a pale reflection of life misery in cart %HESITATION didn't please
00:20:51stop this madness Oden said nothing he kept his gaze fixed on Loki like he was just another fixture in the cave when one of his sons finished murdering the other several of the gods came forward and muzzled valley the wolf though gnar fee was already butchered the gods
00:21:17on she had to do their knives and knelt to dismember him more a cut off his limbs and cut out his heart they unwound his intestines and other organs but handled them carefully so as to keep them intact Loki watched with dead eyes the screams of his sons
00:21:38still echoed in his ears the gods took nor fees entrails and used them to bind Loki's hands then tied him down a top three rocks on the floor of the cave he did not fight them he did not scream insults he did not swear revenge he did not
00:21:57flinch at the cold or the pain he allowed himself to be bound he only stared above him at the pointed roof of the cave as the guards laughed at his naked helpless form drunk off their joy of watching such a magnificent punishment the gods wanted more Scotty a
00:22:20giantess who lived in as guard fetched a snake with deadly poison she struck did above Loki's so that poison would drip upon his body as water drips from the roof of the cave to form the sharp rocky icicles that hang from the ceiling except no sculptures would be
00:22:40formed now no geologic wonders would come from the binding of Loki only pain pain was the only thing Loki would know for the rest of his days coming up our conclusion of the story of Loki have you heard the news park cast has released its first ever fiction
00:23:04podcast mine's a high it's about homicide detective Kate Maclay who's plagued by nightmares and then lists her radio journalist husband to help her get to the bottom of her horrifying dreams in the process Kate fights against psychology unsolved crimes her own family and even a serial killer if
00:23:24you love true crime podcasts mysterious audio dramas and psychological thrillers like I do mind's eye is definitely the show for you I've listened to the first few episodes and was hooked right away and be sure to stay tuned to the end of our show to hear a teaser
00:23:40search mind's eye wherever you listen to podcasts or visit park cast dot com slash a mind's eye to start listening now mines by the scariest monsters are those hiding inside our own minds now back to the story the binding of Loki is a pivotal moment in Norse mythology
00:24:03it's when the gods succeed in subduing one of their greatest enemies normal interpretations of Norse mythology pose this as a great victory the gods divine beings as they are are considered the righteous the good guys the purveyors of justice because Loki becomes their enemy he is the opposite
00:24:24the monster the trader the heathen when we look at the story of Loki we see that the gods actions are in fact responsible for creating his hatred responsible for insuring that he becomes their enemy so in making a monster are the gods themselves not monsters no other being
00:24:45in all of Norse mythology suffers a more gruesome fate indeed one would be hard pressed to find a source of greater suffering in any mythology and yet we still consider Loki to be the evil one why is this maybe the Norse missiles wants to suggest that even the
00:25:05most powerful beings have faults that they know they must die and the world must end and their consequences in trying to avoid these things UPS Loki then is a scapegoat for the gods hopelessness he is the thing we take our anger out on the wall we punch in
00:25:25grief the void we scream into when everything feels lost his suffering comes as a cast off of our own suffering but even in his cave Loki has some semblance of love and hope his wife siguen stays next to him and catches the snake's poison in a bowl if
00:25:47only to provide a brief relief for her beloved when Loki looked at her he allowed himself a soft smile Johannes must be made of steel by now they did not tell you that by marrying the greats Loki you would become so incredibly fit siguen smiled back but her
00:26:07eyes were sad watching her husband naked and shivering in the cold cave only you could make jokes in such a situation son of lavoy my love it's time I must empty the bowl all right and do is you must tears were already pouring out of Siggins eyes as
00:26:32she moved the bowl as always some poison sloshed over the bulls edge and fell directly on Loki's bare skin Lukies cries of pain were deep and haunting he thrashed against his ghastly bonds as his neck bullshit and sweat matted to his forehead siguen tried to hurry and empty
00:26:56the contents but already the earth started to tremble and then to shake violently the tremors would be felt in as guardian throughout mid guard the land of the humans they call these moments when the ball is emptied earthquakes and this is the end of Loki story before the
00:27:19apocalypse he lies bear in his cave and during an immense amount of pain while the gods continue their lives in as guard he is the final bound monster in Norse mythology first or his sons fan rear and your men donned the gods bound fan rear when they were
00:27:38afraid of gross human god was bound to the mid guard see where he grew so large he circled the world and bit his own tail now it is Loki down to his cave where he will wait and suffer and build hatred and rage in his heart perhaps he
00:27:59stays there for days perhaps weeks Loki is destined to remain in the cave for millennia until his face is scarred and the sharp rocks all but in pale his skin then something happens winter comes to Midgard famine sweeps over the land brothers fight brothers fathers killed their sons
00:28:25deadly violent thunderstorms calls the cease to rise in flood the land men and women drowned but it's not just the human world that suffers the drizzle tree that holds the nine worlds together troubles the beings of the heavens prepare for disaster nobody knows how Loki is freed perhaps
00:28:53his reaction to the poison is so violent and intense that his bones come loose apps it's the trembling of the Yggdrasil tree that disrupts all things UPS his son Finn rear comes to free his father or the dead men and women his daughter hell watches over storm the
00:29:12cave and cut his bonds whatever the cause when Loki does break free he sits up in disbelief and studies his hands with curiosity it's been so long since he's seen them so long since he's moved he looks at sea again whose face is still beautiful despite its worn
00:29:34and tired look it is time siguen knows what this means you do not have to go to the great battle you might stay and wait out the chaos is to me I must they were your friends once you share their drink and called them brother that is a
00:29:52forgotten time I have not forgotten that I have married a fool I am not my own monster I have been crafted to be how I am I am known to be AT rex nor rock I am now free and I must go siguen hung her head and watched
00:30:12the figure of her husband retreat he limps slightly and his legs looked unsure after going on used for so long but he still held himself with his confident proud posture this was the last time she would see him she wept and then went to decide how she would
00:30:31spend the last days of the cosmos Loki traveled to the your time to the land of chaos he came alive here in his true home the giants had already gathered together they knew something was amiss but they were not sure what and grumbled between each other about what
00:30:53to do friends when they saw Loki they took up their spears and unsheathed their swords pointing them at his throat friends I mean you no harm U. S. guard you our enemy we've seen you with four who wields the terrible amber as god my my friends you are
00:31:13mistaken I am Loki son the full about see the giants who brings lightning and chaos I am the child of youth and high and kidnapped by the I a seer of as god but now I am free and right now as look he led the giants to the
00:31:35shore where he found Naugle far the ship made from the nails of the dead his son Fenrir the wolf waited there and watch the group approach with a suspicious gaze I've broken my bonds father I will descend on as guard with a terrible fury nothing you're sharp tongue
00:31:55can say will stop me oy board the ship and we shall descend on as god and wreak destruction on the traitorous gods Loki the giants and the wolf boarded the frightful ship the crew watched as Loki made his way to the bow he reached down placed a hand
00:32:15on the ship's deck and commanded to ask now go far took off at an alarming speed ferrying its crew to the final battle he could see as guard before him it was common undisturbed Naugle far cut through the water with purpose the giants that he led into battle
00:32:37saw as guard and started a war cry Stan rear hold into the air as they approached Loki saw that as guard was not peaceful at all the ranks of the gods pounded their spears and shouted their cries he could make out Oden and store adorned in armor serious
00:32:59in intention even now he was surprised that he did not feel hatred but rather a sense of duty they all knew what would happen to them at the battle of Ragnarok and Loki repeated the prophecies to himself in a whisper almost as a form of comfort the giants
00:33:18to it twelve wield a great flaming sword and the the fire giants across be first the legendary bridge will collapse on to their weight Fenrir will descend on Ascot and defeat Odin in battle swallowing him whole exactly Odin son will slay the wolf in retribution Thor will kill
00:33:40the other son of locate your main gun but the great serpent's venom will fell the guard after only nine steps tia will battle the wolf com and they will kill each other for a and the giants to it will full at each other's hands it was the first
00:33:58time look he had spoken the prophecy allowed it felt like a great relief especially when he said the last part the part that he had tried to block from his mind but had still driven every decision he had ever made Loki will captain the ship nakal five with
00:34:16a crew of frost giants and his son fimbria he will meet time told the guardian fans got in battle they will be the death of each other the gods know the battle of Ragnarok will be there and they know that the nine worlds will plunge into chaos they
00:34:34know there is no hope in their future and yet they still move forward to meet in battle to confront death with honor to finally accept their fate Ragnarok is the way the because most ends but there is also re birth a handful of gods lived through the destructive
00:35:02battle and a few namely boulder and holder a revived from the dead so in a strange way by orchestrating the death of boulder Loki was in fact planting hole in the rebirth of the world Loki story is the most complex and troubling in the Norse pantheon scholars have
00:35:28dubbed him the god of fire the Norse version of Lucifer a trickster a tangle a spider and not the god of mischief some have gone so far as to say we can not and never will know the true nature of Loki but he does serve a purpose he's
00:35:48the engine of the gods the character that keeps the story moving forward a source of motivation and emotion to figure that adds complexity and chaos to the ordered world of the gods Loki is the only figure to hold the gods accountable for this he is severely punished but
00:36:08perhaps he's there to show that even the divine are not beyond reprimand or judgment there are many more stories of Loki we have not told stories that are meant to be humorous where Loki's emotions and instincts get him into trouble and then he must devise a scheme to
00:36:26solve the problem he has created the exploration of Loki's character continues today he's most prominently featured as a primary character in the Marvel cinematic universe as a one time villain turned right yes he was a central figure of Neil Gaiman's American gods and several other authors and scholars
00:36:48have attempted various approaches at understanding his true nature UPS if Loki is truly unknowable he's the most accurate representation of humanity in all of Norse mythology and that is why over hundreds of years we keep exploring who Loki wise that is why he fascinates us because exploring the
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00:41:24working from last year they say there's posing but won't release details removal of body parts points to psychosis or perhaps it's a message Haraszthy keeps bringing up Jack the Ripper's kidney letter and told the girl gets our mail to watch out for stray eyeballs he's a little green
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