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Every least deserves the you start delight shit, you created spot, shit,
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you creative spot.
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I do.
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I work out every day anyway.
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I don't go a day.
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Without it, And so between those it's I just I
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find the time, I make it happen, and off you go.
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I think it's really important to talk about the fact
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that you have to have self care. And self care
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is not just about going to get a massage and
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getting your your pedicure right. Self care is all of
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that what you just mentioned where you spend time on
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your soul, because it's a lot. And so what do
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you how do you speak to the new the new
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person coming in, Like what what would you tell me? Like, Oh, Kennice,
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I want to be an actress. I've never done it before.
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I want to do it. What kind of advice would
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you get? Just do it? Like get out there?
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No, I mean just yeah, I mean just come with me, Like,
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let's you know, next time I have a gig, come
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show up, like you know, basically piggyback with somebody. There's
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so many amazing nice people in this industry who are
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so willing to help and teach people and show up
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and show you the ropes and The other thing is
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don't be afraid to fail. Don't be afraid to look stupid.
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Everybody does, so throw that out the window. You know.
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That's one thing I love about it is don't be
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afraid to you know, it's okay, Like that's that's the
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best part about it in my opinion, is you know,
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don't be afraid to. Yeah, just do your best, do
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your worst, do whatever, just put it out there. And
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I think the groups of people and that's the other
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thing is gravitate towards other creatives to foster a healthy
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environment for failing. So what I mean by that is
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try not to work with or around people who make
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you feel bad if you fail.
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Oh God, that is that's for real, right there. That
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that right there, that's a good one because I think
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as a creative. You know, I think and dance for
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very for many, many years. And the word that you
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hear more than anything is n You hear that more
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often than you thought you would ever hear it in
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your life until you become a creative. No, no, no,
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And know for the strangest reasons. No. For you know,
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your hair is too short, it's too long, you're too tall,
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you're too short, you're too this shit too that you
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remind me of somebody went to school with. You know,
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it could be it could be anything, and it's not personal,
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even if it feels personal. It just it just didn't work.
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It just didn't click. Yeah, but you went and you auditioned,
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or you went, you showed up, And that's part of
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it is continuing to show up right.
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Well and not just hearing no, but hearing nothing.
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Oh, that's my favorite. I think that it is like,
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I think I'd rather hear no because you're in limbo.
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You're just like and I.
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Think more often than not, you just hear nothing. And
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you have to be okay with that. Like, you just
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have to be I think a lot of people struggle
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with hearing nothing. But you have to be comfortable enough
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in your in yourself that okay, it's I released it
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to the cosmos. I did my best, and now I
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move on to the.
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Next thing, go on to the next thing, and you
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never know, you never know what might happen later on
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down the line that maybe it didn't work for them now,
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because you know, as a as a producer, if you've
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got fifty people auditioning for something, you don't have time
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to get back to the forty nine people that you
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didn't select. So I get why we don't hear anything,
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but it doesn't change the fact that it's frustrating. As
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a writer. We submit stuff and you're like, Gamel, your
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story sounds great, let me see your script, and you
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send the script and crickets and
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you're like, okay, so
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you like it. And that's probably the hardest part. I
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call that the stamina of being a creative is continuing
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to show up in these situations that if it was
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anyplace else, if you were trying to meet somebody and
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you kept asking somebody for their number and they just
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didn't respond, what would we call that ghost Yeah, it's ghosting,
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and you'd be mad. You're like, hell, dare them. But
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you can't bring off that to this because it's different,
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right mm hmm.
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Yeah, you just have to be okay with it. It's
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a it's a I don't want to say it's a
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one sided relationship. Obviously it's not, because if you get selected,
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then fantastic, You're you know, that's your ticket. But I mean,
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I think it's worth it because every chance, every time
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you put something out there, that's the chance that you
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could get seen or selected, or you can go and
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if I mean, the worst is they don't pick you, Okay.
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Yeah, And it's like and the worst the worst is
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you don't show up. That's the worst for me because
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every it's like a muscle you talk about you like
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to work out. That's part of your your process of
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self care. It helps you. You know, you have a muscle.
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I was a personal trainer in the fitness industry for
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many years, and that's how you talk to my clients.
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Like everything that that you are as a being, think
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of it like a muscle. You go onto the gym.
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Every time you work out, muscles are getting stronger. It's
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like auditioning, and everything you do is making your creativity stronger.
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So even if you don't get the audition, you showed
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up for the audition, and that's just making your confidence stronger.
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It's making your presentation stronger. And it's getting your name
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out there because though, oh, we getting an audition for
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that thing, and they start to see you, and that's
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the whole point yep.
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And you're practicing your self
taping, you're practicing your camera.
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You know you're so even if it's just for you,
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it's still you're still practicing, you're still doing your thing.
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Like I'm always amused with tapes they get from actors
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because they you're so comfortable. You talk about being you know,
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comfortable in your space, and you get the tape and
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they're acting out the scene and they're everywhere. They're like,
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oh look, look at don't stop, and you're sitting there.
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They're in their living room in front of their webcam,
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just going forward it. I'm always impressed by that. How
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how much time? And maybe that's not the right question,
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how long does it take a person like how like
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to take you to just get that comfortable with yourself?
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We don't think about it when we see the film
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because we see the the ensemble of the twenty two
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people in the scene that are doing everything and at
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some point there was that one person sitting in their
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living room reading the script all by themselves, rehearsing the scene.
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Do you find that difficult? Does that? How is that
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for you? Just really becoming these characters and then auditioning
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in full force? So because you want to get the
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gig right.
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So was the question like when you first start self taping,
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how how hard is it to Yeah?
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Yeah, yeah, let's let's go there. I think that's a
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good question.
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I remember the very very very first time I self
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tape self taped. I had to retake like three times
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because I was so un comfortable just talking to nobody.
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I was like, this is really awkward. But then then
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I loved it because I was like, I can do
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whatever I want. No one else is here, I've got
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the house to myself, like I can do whatever.
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This is awesome. And that's kind of lierating. Huh yeah
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that way.
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Yeah, it's just like awesome. And I think that I
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honestly think that transfers after you've done a lot of them.
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I think that translates to everyday life because then you're
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just you. You start to feel like there's always a
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camera on you, and so you just kind of go
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through life like eh, cool, like whatever.
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That's funny. This stuff is nothing.
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Yeah, it's just a rehearsal, like whatever.
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What are your favorite kind of characters to play?
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Oh my gosh. I feel like I am a little
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bit of a method actor. Maybe a lot of bit, A.
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Lot of bit, A lot of bit, a lot of bit.
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I love I'm finding I really love Westerns, so I
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really really love the Western genre, fantasy, sci fi, all
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those medieval any just and I love costumes, So just
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kind of really getting into the nitty gritty of the character,
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getting into accents, getting into and then from there dissecting
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the character. You know, what, who is this character? What
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makes them tick? How do they relate to other people?
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What did they have for breakfast? You know, how do
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they walk, how do they talk? Just what is this
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person or is it a person? You know, all these
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other questions, just really dissecting it. I think that's a
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lot of fun.
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You say, use the word method, you're going back old school.
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And I'm a gen xer, so everybody I grew up
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watching like the Actors Studio and The Method, the Marlon
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Brandos and all that stuff. And that's a whole other
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kick right there. That's really digging in and being the character.
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Do you find being a writer helps you and developing
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your characters that you take on a new.
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Role, Absolutely, one hundred percent because and I also I
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got hired to write a script. So and the reason
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I bring that up is because they all intertwine. So
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if you can think about things, and you you're a writer,
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so you totally understand this. So when you world build,
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you have to think about things
from that perspective, Right,
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how would this person walk or enter a room? How
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are they seeing things from their perspective? How do they
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relate to or what's their intention behind this? Because when
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you watch people on screen, the difference between a really
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good actor and like just people talking is the way
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they communicate. People don't communicate unless there's a purpose. Right,
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We don't just talk to talk. I mean some people do,
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but for the most part, there's a reason we're talking.
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There's an intention behind it. So if your character can
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develop that like why are they talking? What's the action?
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What are you doing? And get that flushed out, not
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just the words, not just the script, but like why
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are you saying those words? And you can convey that
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and then speak, it's so much more believable.
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I love that. And as a writer, that's where always
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taught that you gotta be able to find the the what,
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the why, the who, and the how. It's like that,
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that's that's like the core of you know, why you're writing,
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and even when you're telling your story and you're taking
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that reflecting that into this character. And as I watch
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your character, I'm supposed to get that right by your presentation?
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What types of characters you say? You know, you gave
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me an interesting gambit. I'm always writing notes because I
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don't want to forget. You gave me a gambit of
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sci fi fantasy and westerns, which sounds like a really
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awesome film. A sci fi fantasy was. But what I
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what I'm seeing in my my head you said the
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word is costumes and the absolute complete difference between just
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some walking down the street. Here's Candace playing the gal
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going to her medical job. You want to be the
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gal ride and a horse in Old West, or in
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a spaceship where you know, dungeons and drag You want
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to do something completely different, is what I'm hearing.
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You know, I
could definitely be in a medical show.
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I could be in a medical drama, because I mean
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that's what I live every day. And it's not that
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I don't like drama, of course I do. But I
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think for me, I just love those genres. I love
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reading them, I love creating those stories. Those are the
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stories that I write. Are fantasy things like that. I
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love the worlds that they're in. I love. I just
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love the costumes and the imagination that comes with it.
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So I think that's kind of why I gravitate towards those.
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They're just they're just a lot of fun, you know,
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and it's just there's there's action, there's fighting, I you know, just.
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I don't know. Yeah, action and fighting is always is
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always exciting. Yeah, and you've got a little bit of
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you can do a little bit of fighting, can Yeah.
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So I do cowboy mounted shooting.
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Oh really?
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And then like you know, I have lots of like
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weapons training and stuff like that, and I've done a
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little bit of stunting archery. I have a gymnastics background
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things like that. So okay, just all that. Yeah, all
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that kind of stuff appeals to me. Thirty plus years
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on a horse. So hence the Westerns girl.
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The girl knows what she's doing. Yeah. Do you ever
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surprise people when you go to to be on a
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set and you have you can do a little more
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action in terms of what you can bring to a character.
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I don't think I've had the opportunity yet.
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I think I'm at that stage now where I'm sort
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of being under estimated in my abilities and I'm trying
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to be delicate about how I say this because I
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don't have a lot of credits yet or a lot
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of to show my work or to show my abilities.
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need to see it to believe
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I get that, but I that's so I'm in that
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phase where I'm like trying to be like, hey, I
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can put my money where my mouth is, like I
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can actually do these things like I can actually, So
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that's kind of where I'm at right now, is trying
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to find those avenues of Okay, where are these projects
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that I can really dig in and build that portfolio?
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get yourself there? Because being a creative, in just about
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any air of creativity, it's a catch twenty two. People
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want you because you have great talent, but they don't
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want your lists. They can see what you can do,
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so it's like you got to get the job before
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you can get the job.
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job and they're like you need six years experience, and
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you're like, well, how do I get the experience?
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Nobody will hire me till I have the experience. I
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don't understand exactly, and it's you know, the upside is
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in today's world, you have access to more opportunity. And
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so you know, as a as a rising you know, actress,
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what kinds of advice do you have, you know for
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yourself in terms of how can you get out there
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to get these these credits and get the experience that
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you're looking for.
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Well, don't say no to opportunity. You know, I had
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the awesome opportunity to network with you fantastic folks, which
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was so cool.
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I loved it. Really tap into your regional groups too.
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into the whole Washington, Idaho Oregon area and you know,
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trying to get connected with filmmakers here and you know
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what projects are they doing? How can I get involved?
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How can I you know, what can I do? Whether
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it's background crew, it doesn't matter, like, just get involved,
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get out there, meet people, make those connections, build up
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those relationships, because then once they see that you show
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up on time, your punctual, that you you know, can
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ride a horse, that you can do the things you
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say you can, then I think wheels will start turning right.
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the plans I have and just takes time and effort
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You seem to have have a very realistic perspective on
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it too, which is very hopeful. I think it does.
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this thing, I say this to everybody when I'm coaching,
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that time is linear. You know, you have yesterday, you
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have today, and you have tomorrow. You can't change yesterday.
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All I can do is work on today and prepare
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for tomorrow. But what if you could go back to
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yesterday and talk to young Candice, what would you say
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to her?
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That's tricky. So when I was eighteen, I wanted to
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go to Juilliard. Oh I would have gone. I you know,
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I don't regret that I went to medical school, like
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I don't regret that at all because I do have
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a stable career and I do have But what if,
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you know, what if I had done that? Because I
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had at the time, I had my audition ready to go,
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I had everything ready to go. And then in the
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back of your mind there's always that self doubt and
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then your parents are always like, well you should probably,
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you know, choose a career that's you know, what if
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it doesn't and what you know, and so you go
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down the you know, you can for sure get a
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job in healthcare that will never fail. You can always Yeah, boy,
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the normies.
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Out of the normy train. It's hard, you know, in
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regret like it's it hasn't. You haven't reached a point
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in your life where it's turned into regret, and hopefully
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you never will
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in terms of you you're acting now. You got back
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into it and it hasn't proven one way or the
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other yet. So you're you're in today now, so you
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have you're right now, you're affecting tomorrow. But you know,
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I venture to guess that you have some really cool
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things to say to young canvas about don't be disappointing
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and it's gonna be okay.
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Yeah, I think so. And regardless of where you go,
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you're being true to yourself, I don't think you're you're
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making a wrong choice. I got back to where I
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needed to go in the first place, If that makes sense.
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I heard that, Yes it does. It makes a lot
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of sense. So yeah, I like.
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That it was roundabout.
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So this is your opportunity to have I've got the hiccups.
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I apologize. This is your ups tout now to tell
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everybody what you're actually working on, Like, what have you
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got coming up? So people can go look and find
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you out there? Anything you can talk about. You can
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definitely talk about what you just did with us, you
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know what got going on.
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So Project Firebreak is in post production.
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I'm so excited to see that.
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Cannot wait.
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I just had a short release with Pine Shore Productions.
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It's hit sixty eight thousand.
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Views and nice, nice, So.
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That's doing really good. And then with that same director,
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Chris Whitmer, we're planning a couple projects later this year.
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Throughout the year.
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I have another project short that I will hopefully be
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related to sometime this summer. That's a fantasy. Another potential
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project I'll probably be background on at some point. Share
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on a couple of vacations all vacation, Yes, going to Yellowstone,
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going to Disney World.
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So that sounds amazing. That's a lot, It is a lot,
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it's a lot. Good for you. Yeah, and where can
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we find you out? What are your handles? And I'll
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get all this information and linked in the description. But
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if you want to let people know where they can
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connect with you so they can help pull you into
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social media at a little nudge yet there.
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Yeah, So my Instagram is Candace Underscore Kettleson. That one's
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pretty easy, and then my Facebook is just Candace Marie.
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I love that so easy. Well, I enjoy talking to you.
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There's so much that we can talk about. We might
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have to bring you back on when you would definitely
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be pulling you back on when your film is done
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with fire Breaks that you can talk about it, so
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we'll definitely be talking to you. Then, Well, is there
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anything you'd like to leave our audience with words of wisdom,
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a drop of knowledge, or just something fun to share?
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You know, when I first saw Project Firebreak pop up,
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I didn't know what it was about it, but I
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was like, I have to be involved in this, I don't.
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It Just something drew me to it. So if there's
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something like that that you see and you're like, man,
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I just I have to do this, go for it,
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do it because it will change your life. You know.
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Meeting you guys, being involved in that project was so
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incredibly amazing, one of the coolest experiences of my life.
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And I am so excited to see what comes out.
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I can't wait.
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Well, it was exciting to work with you, and Firebreak
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was something new, and it was daunting and challenging and
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fabulous and fun. And it was a new experience for
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everyone because it was a marathon and everybody would get
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to hear all about that. But the stuff is looking good.
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You're looking good, so we'll see. It's such a thrill
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to to sit down and talk with you, to talk
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about what what a creative world is for you. I
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appreciate you taking the time, and thank you for dropping
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by and saying hi to everybody.
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Thankschel, it's nice to chat with you.
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Nice chat with you too. So we're gonna be back
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on our next guest. So stay tuned. Everybody say bye.
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I can't. It's bye bye. Thank you for coming. Everybody
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love you.
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Journey has a story. Every voice deserves this.
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Story.
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