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MMM, hello, welcome everyone to
my sister. Maybe watch this. I'm
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Colin, I'm Michelle. This is
a huge episode because we are going to
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pack two episodes into one women tell
all and fantasy suites. This is Clayton
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season. Holy Shit, this is
some of the best bachelor stuff I've ever
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encountered. I am so good into
it and you know what, I'm actually
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starting to believe it. When Jesse
Palmer tells us that this is going to
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be the most dramatic finale ever,
I'm like, I'm falling for it.
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I'm I'm in. I mean it's
like it's believable at this point and I
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really don't think we know what's going
to happen at the end. I think
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there's going to be a twist.
Me Too. I can't. Let's save
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our predictions, because I think we
got to cover this and then let's end
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on predictions, because there's so much
that happened but so little at the same
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time. Like well, and I'll
say already, some of my predictions have
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been surprised. Yeah, and then
we were shown some very cool footage which
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leads us into what's next, and
I guess there are two more episodes,
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which I didn't realize. I thought
we yes, I should have known better,
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because if we're double episode this week, we're going to be a double
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episode next week. Yeah, I
don't know what I thought and I kind
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of I thought maybe it was just
gonna be like a threehour one on the
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Monday, but they're doing and then
we also have to remember that they'll be
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after the final rows. That's what
I think Tuesday must be mostly, or
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it's like a half half like maybe
Tuesday. It really depends because, like
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we're seeing, I don't think this
is gonna be a traditional ending where we
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have a proposal and then the you
know, everything to after the final rows.
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I don't think we're going to see
that. I do think that they
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have I do. I do not
think it'll be like the end of tatious
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season and other seasons we've seen where
they're padding the last episode because there isn't
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much to show. I think we're
going to get into I think we're getting
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I think they're going to have a
lot to show and I think
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after the
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final rose is going to feel actually
not as anticlimactic as it usually does.
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I think we might actually see the
climax happen on after the final roads.
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I can't wait are going to be
in the air. I think it's actually
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be good because I think we're going
to either see, well, I think
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we're going to see some of the
girls rip him a new a hole.
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Well, they already did on women'
tellall. No, but I mean sorry,
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because you should. The finale is
only going to be like susie Rachel
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Getty. I think those girls are
going to rip him a new way hole,
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as well they should. I think
sue well will get into this,
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but I think so already writing your
speech. Susie is going to have the
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classy edit, though, because she's
going hard for bachelor at at this point.
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Oh at absolutely, and so she's
going to be classy, she's gonna
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take she's going to own a lot
more of it than she should. It's
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totally hers to lose at this point. A hundred and fiftyzero percent. Okay,
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let's with it. Welly all boom, by the way, was Jesse
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Palmer at the women toil all?
I'm not he could, oh my God,
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like I was waiting for him to
pull out a judge's gavel and start
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hammering on a desk and be like
order, order in the court, I
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will have you thrown out, like
he didn't even try, though he genuinely
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was just like this is pointless,
I can't control these women. I'm I'm
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I feel like somebody was talking in
his earpiece, like you have to shut
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them up, and he's like,
I don't get paid enough to just like
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trying to out. He's just trying
to solve that day's wortle. He's just
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distracted, he's not even tuned or
he's kind of enjoying it. And I
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think at some point, just because
Jesse's personality, like Chris Harrison, had
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a little bit more of like the
like fatherly, don't disappoint me personality,
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or is Jesse's just more like I'm
your buddy and whatever, I don't matter,
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regular mom, I'm a cool mom. Yeah, he's the cool mom.
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So I think it's like the producers
aren't even trying to make him keep
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that much order. I think he's
they're just like, you know what,
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this is what it is, and
it was a bit of a shit show.
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It was a total shit showed so
much talking over each other so much.
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There was still a lot of good
stuff got covered. So right off
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the bat, Chinais so much yelling. Yeah, common, yes, we
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usually, yeah, usually, you
probably haven't seen very many that have had
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audiences, but now that there's a
live audience, there's always the over the
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top reaction from the crowd that they
encourage. It shows you that. It
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just goes to show how much has
happened this season. I had completely forgotten
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about Claire, who got drunk and
slagged off my God Clayton in the first
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episode, and I was like,
Oh, completely forgot about her. She's
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a complete train wreck and it's so
fun to have her back. And randomly
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everybody's taking the time to like judge
her and scold her. It's like,
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who cares? Save it for Chinnay. Also, I think Claire was right.
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I mean, after seeing this episode
and how like the fantasy sweets,
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when I think Claire Got Out Alive, like she was just like at this
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guy. I was she wouldn't have
lasted anyway. But she's also I think
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she's onto something when she talks about
like an America's sweetheart type, like no,
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but he's always been too good to
be true, and I think that's
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sort of I think we always have
kind of known it. Yeah, and
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I mean it's not even like he
was too good to be true. He
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was just white bread, like he
was just so unoffensive. He wasn't fun
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or great, he just wasn't horrible. HMM. So we're seeing that he
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he's he seemed to be okay to
go along with everything the producers have said,
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and I think we're I think now
in retrospect, I think we're seeing
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him snap. He's getting really close
to snapping, if he hasn't already.
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Yes, and I think, did
you think, like I'll skip ahead a
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little bit, during this women till
all, when the girls confront him about
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keeping Shoulday, didn't you feel like
he just wanted to say I kept her
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because the producers really made me,
not because I genuinely like her?
Okay,
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so I was hoping you could fill
me in a little bit on this
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because I watched both of these episodes
my newborn son, Jamie. Yeah,
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I wish he was here. I
have snuck off from art my inlaws where
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bridget and I are staying, so
I cannot hold the baby up, but
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wish. I'm pretending. I'll just
watch videos on my phone all you talk.
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But Yeah, just for our listening
public, I'M A I'm a new
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dad and I've watched both of these
episodes with Jamie in my arms and said
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he's Jamie had some real opinions.
Jamie had Jamie had a lot to say.
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He found it to be a real
snooze. He said a lot of
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it. But they're during the time
when they were really confronting him. He
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was fussing a bit and I was
feeding him and kind of just kind of
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trying to get him settled again.
So I missed a bit of it and
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think got to the point where I
had missed a bit of the context.
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But they were basically saying like you
had poor character, something to the tune
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of Clayton. You had poor character
and it was such a it was such
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a sign that you weren't as good
of a guy or something something like that.
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So, like, what what were
they saying? Was this is just
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about keeping Schenney for so long?
I think so. But I think it
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was also that he was kind of
creating some of the drama, and I
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mean Sarah kind of said that where
he was doing a lot of like he
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was storing the pot a little bit. He'd be like, Oh, soans
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said this about this, like he
did do that a little bit and I
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think a big part of it was
the fact that they kind of beat around
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the Bush in a little bit in
saying maybe you kind of had to keep
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Cheney, like they didn't use those
words, but like you had Chennai there,
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but you chose to lay her on
the bar make out with her.
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No one made you do that.
And someone said that. I think that
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was their way of saying maybe the
pass wanted you to, but you didn't
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have to make out with her.
But they didn't know that at the time.
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They know, but that's what I
mean. Looking that's and that's what
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they're doing. They're looking about okay, I've seen they've seen the season at
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this point by the time, because
they don't record women tell all. They
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only recorded it, like yeah,
we're three weeks ago, and I got
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the sense that a lot of what
we're this is kind of a macro point
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for women tell all, that a
lot of this was them somewhat reacting to
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what they've learned since in by the
prison. It's like seeing the focus in
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the footage. Yeah, I'm saying, oh, totally, yeah, totally,
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and if he was was I don't
know. She was selling it pretty
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hard, like this was the first
time she's seen on this sen a stuff.
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It's like, yeah, come on, you've probably been watching the series,
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or maybe she hasn't. Maybe it's
just like like Jeneteve was getting retraumatized
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on this freaking it was a bit
much, though. I just think like
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they were all like, to me, you should have just let Chennay dig
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her own grave, which she was. Why give her to do? You
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gave her the floor, you gave
her more attention and more screen time.
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You guys should have all decided we're
not saying one word about Sennai. We're
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not going to bother. There's no
point. Like how good would that have
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been if they literally just didn't even
acknowledge her? or well, and I
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mean they kind of would have been
forced to, but it would have been
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it could have been something like he
goes through is like Jenevieed. How did
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you feel about that with Chine?
Like that's opening. I don't really have
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anything. Yeah about like they could
have decided, they could have kind of
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like unionized together and said, we
are not going to give this girl screen
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time and we're not going to give
them any footage to use. But they're
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all auditioning for paradise. So Kira
in particular. So they have to buing
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the drum. I liked Kira.
I thought she had some singers. I
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thought this was annoying. Oh what
are okay? Sierra was the most annoying.
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Sierra was chiming in a lot.
She was dominating that conversation again her
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audition for Paradise. I hope she
doesn't
go. I just don't care to
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see any of her. She's not. She's a bit of it. Well,
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she's a school is part of it. Well, yeah, she's just
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like the tattletale morality police. I
don't know, like what she she knows
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best and like, sure, a
lot of what you say had some validity.
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Oh sure, she's just like overtaking
the conversation so much, like nobody
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watches reality TV to have somebody like
constantly scolding someone in policing their behaviors,
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like we're kind of tuning in to
see outrageous behavior. Sara, like.
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Well, and when that's her only
note, she has no other side to
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her. All she is is the
tattle tale. Yeah, she doesn't really
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have much more to her, and
that that really just goes to show that
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she's not that interesting, because all
she can do is talk about other people
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exactly a hundred red percent. And
she's mad too, I will say,
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like a sure's this off conflictiveness because
she's quite angry and this is clearly partly
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how she processes some of the anger
that she felt about how she was treated
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on the show. And frankly,
I'm surprised that they're all not angry about
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how they were treated on the show
because really, like fantasy sweets especially,
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really true in sharp detail to me
just how cruel this show is to the
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women. Oh Yeah, and frankly, they all should know better and they
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all made their deal with the devil. So I don't feel that bad for
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them per se. But like it's
a mean show in a lot of ways.
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Yeah, no, wonder the juggular
in a way that, like love
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is blind, doesn't yeah, it's
true. I mean we'll get to it
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in the fantasy sweets part of this
talk, but like, yeah, the
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producers made some choices and that is
why things happen the way they happen.
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They've really, they've really, they've
really taken a feel like they've taken a
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turn back to what I what my
impression is that bachelor was in the past,
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where it's like meaner, a lot
less pc and yeah, justus.
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It's like they're they're reappealing to their
core audience. It's like, okay,
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we did the sacrificial land, we
got rid of quiz Chris Harrison, we
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had a black bachelor. Now we're
going back to what we do best,
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which is like still being multiracial,
which is good, and but like we're
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going back to being a mean show. We're not trying to be a good
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guy anymore. Yeah, we don't
care what these people falling in love and
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we're not going to pretend we do, and they're gonna pretend they do.
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But I think observant people like us
who are watching it to analyze it our
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yes, and to take note of
what they're doing. Like, what did
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you think of Chennay trying to call
out genevieve that she had sex with Aaron
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from Katie season? Okay, first
of all, I was trying to remember
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who Aaron was. You hated Aaron. He was a guy that you said
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was the bully that bullied you in
high school. Oh it was. This
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is the yeah, yeah, yeah, Oh, I know, perfect smile
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guy. Yeah, yeah, who
you thought was surprised. Yeah, yeah,
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I actually is a dumdum. I
let go some of my hatred for
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him on Paradise Because, yeah,
he got his ass handed to him a
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few times and I was like there, you had the punishment, I could
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stop presenting you down. But Cheney
thought she was dropping some huge bomb.
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Well, yeah, who gives a
shit, you know what I mean?
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Like Cheney, as if you wouldn't
have dated Aaron if you had half a
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chance, like your brand is so
radioactive at this point that, like no,
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it's also, are we just like
slut shaving now, like, who
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cares? If she did have she
was trying to make the point that,
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like, if you're so heartbroken,
you wouldn't have had sex with Aaron,
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you actually might have more was the
close that was. I mean to be
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charitable that I think that was the
point she was trying to make. But
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basically it's just classic deflecting. Right. It's like yeah, but what about
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it's what about ISM? And it's
like, okay, that's a complete nonsequit
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or it has nothing to do with
anything. What do you think shenny was
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thinking before she went out? Like, do you think this is what she
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planned? Genuinely planned to just go
out to me like fuck this. I
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think she was like, well,
I got my cheek fillers, so I
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need to get my money out of
them. I need to get my money's
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worth. That's fair. She just
loves the attention. She looks yet him.
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So second of it. I think
whoever said she's going to be on
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paradise and if she may have narcissistic
personality disorder. I'm not a I'm not
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a I'm not a I'm not a
psychologist, but I think she has something
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wrong with her, because I just
who watches that back and then goes,
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yeah, I look great, that
was good, that's how I wanted to
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look, but I regret nothing.
Don't you think that there's a version of
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this, like a million, you
know, infinite possible realities? There was
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a version of this where shine was
just a nice person, like or do
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you think she was? I think
she was playing a role. I don't
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know how much of this is deeply
written into her personality. Just don't know
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why. What is the point other
than okay, maybe she'll get on paradise,
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she'll get a few minutes of fame, but like, if anyone googles
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you to hire, you for a
job. No one's really going to follow
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you on instagram because people only hate
followed for so long. They're not going
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to buy products that you shill.
Your people are going to go, Oh,
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you want to be this marketing assistant, let me Google. Oh God,
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Oh, you're that girl. Oh
No, we don't have in our
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office. It's it's tough, right, because these are these are people largely
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in their early S, you know, for the most well, mid to
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late S. he's thirty. I
think, Oh, she so twenty,
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twenty or thirty? I think you're
dirty, though. She is the mind
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of a child anyway. It's these
immature people who are starving for attention and
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they're not thinking about tomorrow, they're
not thinking about they're not thinking about providing
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for themselves or having a good resume. It's like I need a tension,
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I need people to look at me, I need people to be talking about
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me, and it doesn't matter whether
it's good attention or bad attention. It's
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like you know you'd have when you
were in school. You'd have the kids
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would act out and it's like,
yeah, why do they act that way?
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It's like they don't care what kind
of attention they're getting. Yeah,
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that's currently what my daughter does and
she's to I'm like yeah, thank you
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so much for lying on the floor
thinking you're hilarious and not putting your boots
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on for the ninety time this month. Hilarious. Love it. Okay,
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did we see and maybe, to
be fair, did I just not pay
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attention? Did we see Clayton have
an interaction with China? Like, I
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don't think we saw them. This
might have been when I was settling baby.
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I don't know that we saw like
usually they have them like face the
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person, but like, I guess
it world have been no point because because
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Cheney has no apology, and I
don't know, I don't feel like we
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saw much of that. What would
they have to say to each other at
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this point? I don't know.
I just thought maybe he'd want to say
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I thought he who shooted the girls
and I thought that was horrible and had
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I own all that, I would
have said you homeway earlier just to make
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himself look better. That's all he
should have done. Well, he did
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his he did his chicken shit like, more like his shit eating apology,
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where he's like I to food.
He came off not great. He came
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off. He came off like a
groveling little baby. But they'll just lame.
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He just came off super lame.
I think he was kind of like,
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I think he knows that next well, not even next week. It's
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like tomorrow's footage is because only can
get a first. I don't want to
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dig the pit any deeper. That's
true. Actually, he was just try
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I think he was just trying to
like salvage some semblance of being a good
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person. He I'm going to be
honest with you, whether he was acting
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or not, and I don't think
he's a good actor. So I feel
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genuine right. He seemed genuinely just
sad and depressed. He did not seem
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like an engaged man. This reminded
me of the Matt James Depression Beard.
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Oh my God, the beer.
You know what I mean. I wish
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Clayton had come out with a giant
maybe we'll see it at after the final
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roads, just as just a huge
and he comes out and sweatpants eating cheetos.
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He's just like just he does want. I'd love to see him in
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a group therapy session with Matt James
where he's just like I don't even know
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Um. And what did you think
of the interview with Teddy and the fact
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that allegedly, Teddy's her Clayton's brother, slid into Teddy's DM? Okay,
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I want to know what that means. Like how? How is stingy,
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just like hey, you're cute,
or like I feel like do sex,
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I feel old as fuck. I'll
first I'll start off with this, but
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when I DM somebody on a social
media platform, it is not exclusively to
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try and have sex with them,
like sometimes I'm just trying to talk to
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them in a way that is not
public. I think for people that are
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single and under thirty, that is
kind of especially for people that are like
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celebrities, are kind of like or
who don't otherwise know each other. Yeah,
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it's like wom going to shoot my
shot, I'm going to just like
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see if they'll talk to me.
So sliding into some with DM's can just
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be kind of like flirty, or
it could probably be like do you want
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to go out? But I'm assuming
it starts off just being kind of flirty.
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That's why that'd be my guess.
So is this, is this Clayton's
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brother just like swimming in his wake
or like being a Hyena following at around
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a pack of lions. I guess
so, like I don't know. I
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mean don't know if you were going
to go for someone why Teddy, she
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more and more. She's just seems
late. She does seem late and she
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sounds like she godxemption otter than I
was. She had a big redemption.
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They really tried to do a big
redemption arc for her on women tell all
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and I was like, you could
have done this for anybody. It's so
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bland. You could have written this. You could have written this the segment
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for anybody and I wouldn't have known
the difference. I think she's going for
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Bachelrette to like. I don't think
she has a chance, but I think
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she thinks she does. If you
notice, she very intelligently didn't really talk
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during women till all unless she was
spoken to. Yeah, yeah, she
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didn't engage with nay one percent.
I don't think I saw her like yell
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at anyone. She was just kind
of like, but I feel like the
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way she talks there that she are. Obviously she felt very, very hard,
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like somebody was giving her media coaching, for sure, and I think
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to me she but she just comes
off snobby to me, like she acts
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like she's above it and she's just
like Clayton. I'm privy to like a
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lot of information and I know everything
and I just like hope you're okay and
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I'm just like okay, Patty.
Thanks. Also, just the way she
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talks. Yeah, over AIDS.
Everything's like she thinks she's British or something
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like. Yeah, looks like it's
like she's like she's like she did a
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semester abroad in England and came back
thinking she's posh. Well, yeah,
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like Clayton, I hope you're okay, because I'm pretty to all sorts of
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information. She's yeah, she's trying
to I she's definitely trying to be above
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the fray. Yeah, I think
she was successful. Yeah, so far
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as she didn't get pulled into any
bad stuff, but she's not interesting enough
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to be bad. She's not likable
the way serene is likable. Like to
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me, serene did the same thing
serine didn't engage too much. She kept
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it Classy, she kept a positive
and I thought she came off sweet.
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HMM. She doesn't come off snobby
at all. She comes off very genuine,
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whereas teddy does not really come off
genuine. She comes off I don't
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know, I'm just not a huge
fan of her. And Oh, did
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we notice that cassidy tried to play
the victim and rewrite her story and just
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be like, Oh, I'm a
I'm a sex positive icon, is what
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she was trying to do. Is, like, no, you were just
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sure, you were just a pure
you were just faking everything, looking for
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attention, classic quote. There for
the wrong reasons exactly, we all and
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you were caught and now you're
trying
to play it like you're a victim.
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In this is slut shaming's like no, no, this is just like this
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is just you stringing a guy along
back home while you're trying to pretend to
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fall in love with someone else you
can get as much screen time as possible,
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like I kind of got play that
sex positive card with me. No,
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be fair, though, I don't
think there was. I'll stand by
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it. I don't think there's anything
wrong with what she did. I don't
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think there's anything wrong with having a
god you have casual sex with and then
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if you come back from the show, you'll keep having casual sex with him
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and if you get engaged, you
won't anymore. Like, I don't think
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there's anything wrong with that. I
just think her attitude sucked. I think
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it exposes her as being I don't
think she's nearly as bad as Sarah or
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Nay, Oh, you think Sarah's
worse. Okay, maybe Sarah's so evil.
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Sarah was more calculate. See,
I missed Sarah's. I missed like
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getting back with Sarah. This is
when I was definitely with the baby.
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So what did Sarah's say? What
what questions were asked of her on women
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to Um? That is a great
question. I feel like I didn't take
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any notes on Sara for some reason. I just said what did IVERY was
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there? Oh, Sarah tried to
turn it this I'm remember now. Sarah
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tried to turn it around and call
out Clayton and say that Clayton was the
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one that was not genuine and that
was disingenuous the whole time and I was
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like leading people on, and I
think there's yeah, definitely just that.
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So she kind of played it off
as she was. Came off as being
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quite bitchy. I found like she
was quite like I was sad and he
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almost not believe me, but he
like she really didn't own any of her
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shit. And when people were saying
she really tried to double down on the
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fact that Clayton cried and he really
did cry, and she was okay,
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I did see this part, and
he was like no, why would you
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lie about that? Why would you
double down? Well, then she tried
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to skirt back a little bit by
being like, well, I didn't see
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cried with me, I just said
he he cried at some point. And
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everyone's like, no, no,
you said specifically that on your date he
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cried with you and he did not. So you are lying and you told
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many girls this. So it was
very much calculated and she did it off
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camera. So to me this was
so calculated. What a Brat. Yeah,
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she didn't come off great. Whenever
you catch, whenever I like,
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people always get in trouble for this. I've found watching the bachelor and Bachelorette,
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it's anybody who tries to play the
angles and gets caught. That's like
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sort of breaking the fourth wall right
like yeah, well, you're kind of
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damned if you do and you're damned
if you don't. But like, if
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you if you are playing games off
camera and manipulating people and it comes back
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then you look so calculating. Yeah, and it's clear that you are just
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you're not playing the game the right
way. You're being political. And then,
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I mean some people are super careless
and they get political on camera and
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then that's totally breaking the fourth wall. It's like, yeah, you're damned
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if you doing your damn if you
don't. Either way, like you rid
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and you need allies. You can't
try and play everybody. You need to
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have somebody who's gonna say, Oh, I know Sarah and she I've never
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I've never seen her behave that way
and I don't think. Yeah, I
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didn't see anyone coming to Sarah's defense. I didn't see anyone siding with her.
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It was cricket and and they all
turned against her, as we remember
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from when when she got kicked off. You know what's weird, now that
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I think about it? We usually
you see the rivals really have like a
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moment, like hot seat, kind
of like genevieve and Shinney. And I
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was going to ask, did I
miss someone between Sarah and Maro or did
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they know? I was just gonna
say? I bet you anything. Right
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your Mara say anything? She was
weirdly silent. So either one she sees
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how bad she came off and it's
decided she's gonna just, you know,
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hope, hope for a spot on
paradise by not good, annoying
good move,
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or they just didn't show it.
Like it's very they usually, they
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film usually for like three or four
hours so and then they edit it way
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down. So it's very possible that
those conversations happened and we just didn't see
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them. Yeah, absolutely, I
think. I think it's we're all better
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for not seeing Mara keeps spiraling.
That was I don't need to see her
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again and I was surpriably didn't see
any comment from her when Sarah was talking.
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So something's going on there. But
I don't know her face and she
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didn't even do much with her face, so she must have decided that she
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knows how bad she looked at when
I'm not even going to try and repair
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this or settinger losses. Yeah,
which is so. And she's like,
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if you're not going to get me
a redemption arc, I'm not going to
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talk at all. And interestingly enough, I found we didn't see a lot
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of clay like usually. The women
to all is like half with the dude
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and it seemed like conversare for a
few minutes, but usually the girls like
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him, like usually the guy comes
on and it's like, Oh, that
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was fun, that was gonna say
you again. Yeah, all these girls
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like, go fuck yourself. So, which leads me to thing. They
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all have a group chat. Let's
be real. They all know what's happened
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and it's not good and I think
they're all pissed. They're all nobody watch
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old the all friends the season and
all Beni Sad. Nobody wants to be
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seen buddy buddy with him, like
I think, yeah, like, he's
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gonna look bad in a couple weeks. I don't want to be the person
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who was smiling at him. Kira, though, yes, she was trying
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to hit it. Hero's trying to
hit it. She posted up on twitter
406
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too, or she was just like
we don't need commitment, basically, like
407
00:27:02.839 --> 00:27:07.359
we can just have sex, like
basically, that like in kind of less
408
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directors. Why? I think this
is why I think Kira is funny.
409
00:27:11.480 --> 00:27:12.519
I don't think so. She wants
to to. I don't know. I
410
00:27:12.640 --> 00:27:15.720
found her too much. They all
want attention. I can see find them
411
00:27:15.759 --> 00:27:18.519
funny. Sometimes that's allowed. Your
allowed to think whatever you want. I
412
00:27:18.599 --> 00:27:22.240
just bridget observed when she came in
at one point. She said, is
413
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Jin wearing this? Is Sarah wearing
the same dress as genevieve, but in
414
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a different color. There's a couple
of them that had very similar dresses on.
415
00:27:30.279 --> 00:27:34.559
So maybe a second she was like
this just like bridesmaid's dresses that are
416
00:27:34.640 --> 00:27:38.640
all died a different color. Yeah, they're all from like revolved and all
417
00:27:38.680 --> 00:27:44.839
these different brands that they do sponsorships
with. God, okay, can we
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talk about fantasy, sweets, ors
or anything else you want to talk about?
419
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I'm joking over my whears of Jesse's
season made me laugh. Did you
420
00:27:52.440 --> 00:27:56.440
see them? Oh, I loved
that. I was absolute. I loved
421
00:27:56.480 --> 00:28:00.720
it. He's so fucking endearing.
I'm so I now I'm really enjoying him
422
00:28:02.640 --> 00:28:06.960
and I'm going to talk a little
bit about how funny he is. Probably
423
00:28:07.039 --> 00:28:11.400
unintentionally, but yes, I enjoyed
him during fantasy. Sweet fact that he
424
00:28:11.559 --> 00:28:15.359
called the wrong girl's name and then
corrected it. Oh my God, imagine,
425
00:28:15.759 --> 00:28:22.279
I can't believe wow. I was
also think he genuinely didn't know that
426
00:28:22.440 --> 00:28:26.359
was coming, because the look on
his face was like deer in the headlights
427
00:28:26.440 --> 00:28:30.440
like what, wait, what y
and he generally and they said, I
428
00:28:30.480 --> 00:28:33.279
guess I'm never going to live that
down. Well, because I heard him.
429
00:28:33.319 --> 00:28:34.720
He was on a podcast that I
listened to like a bachelor when I
430
00:28:34.960 --> 00:28:37.119
a while ago, at the beginning
of the season, he was doing press
431
00:28:37.559 --> 00:28:41.839
and he said, Oh, my
wife has never seen me on the bachelor
432
00:28:41.039 --> 00:28:45.160
and weirdly you can't find his season
anywhere to watch. So he's like,
433
00:28:45.440 --> 00:28:49.920
she keeps asking production to like hand
her the tapes but she hasn't seen me.
434
00:28:51.119 --> 00:28:53.440
So I'm turned now she's like,
Oh, I found you, and
435
00:28:53.640 --> 00:28:56.480
she got just set a little bit. I don't think you can. Can
436
00:28:56.519 --> 00:29:00.039
you really find any old seasons of
the Bachelor? But Not really available.
437
00:29:00.319 --> 00:29:04.319
There was this there's something called to
be TV toubi that had a bunch of
438
00:29:04.359 --> 00:29:10.359
old seasons. Has To do with
a bunch of copyright stuff. I don't
439
00:29:10.359 --> 00:29:12.200
know. Yeah, you can't.
It's hard to find right like it's ABC,
440
00:29:12.480 --> 00:29:15.799
so you'd think maybe they just put
them all up on Disney plus if
441
00:29:15.880 --> 00:29:21.119
people wanted to go watch with catalog
or something. Who knows? It has
442
00:29:21.160 --> 00:29:25.359
something to do with who owns it
and either the production company or AH,
443
00:29:25.720 --> 00:29:29.000
maybe weird. Yeah, maybe it's
a licensing deal and they don't want to
444
00:29:29.079 --> 00:29:32.359
pay. I think so. They
probably don't want to pay the residuals or
445
00:29:32.400 --> 00:29:33.720
whatever. I was just going to
say. I should writes. Yeah,
446
00:29:33.759 --> 00:29:37.200
this indication of residuals will be weird. I don't know if you'd have to
447
00:29:37.359 --> 00:29:38.720
pay, who you'd have to pay
for that, and I think it just
448
00:29:38.799 --> 00:29:44.480
gets complicated. But there's yeah,
I am these notts, a entertainment lawyer.
449
00:29:44.599 --> 00:29:45.720
So No, there was just,
like I know the people have said,
450
00:29:45.720 --> 00:29:48.440
there's certain seasons that are easier to
watch than others, but there's some
451
00:29:48.640 --> 00:29:52.680
like back catalog stuff, like really
old. That is, yeah, not
452
00:29:52.920 --> 00:29:56.440
not easy to find. So well, I enjoyed women tell all, but
453
00:29:56.599 --> 00:30:00.799
it was there weren't a lot of
note full things that are really yelling.
454
00:30:02.160 --> 00:30:04.279
Oh yeah, but it was.
It was, it was fiery and I
455
00:30:04.440 --> 00:30:08.799
enjoyed that and it was it was
fun. It did not augur well for
456
00:30:08.960 --> 00:30:12.480
Clayton, though. I think after
the final rows is going to be rock
457
00:30:12.559 --> 00:30:15.599
way better. Well, I think
it's gonna be good. Okay, so
458
00:30:15.720 --> 00:30:19.240
let's go into episode ten, because
that was episode nine. If you can't
459
00:30:19.279 --> 00:30:26.200
want to sell all this an episode, I do yeah, welcome to the
460
00:30:26.319 --> 00:30:30.960
panic attack room. These girls are
so sweet. I actually think they're really
461
00:30:30.039 --> 00:30:34.279
nice, but let it be known. You never used to be always during
462
00:30:34.319 --> 00:30:40.359
fantasy sweets that week, everyone had
their own room or like hotel sweet.
463
00:30:40.480 --> 00:30:44.480
They were not together. I have
knows that we started doing this and it's,
464
00:30:44.480 --> 00:30:45.440
I know, horrible, and I
wrote it down and I was like
465
00:30:45.720 --> 00:30:51.839
this is cruel. May Yeah,
making them like come home and face the
466
00:30:51.960 --> 00:30:53.480
other women, and the other women
are just like, did he fucker?
467
00:30:53.559 --> 00:30:56.920
Did He fucker? Basically, that's
what it is. Yeah, it's like
468
00:30:56.000 --> 00:31:00.839
you, you smell like sex.
Okay, good, thank your your hair
469
00:31:00.920 --> 00:31:03.920
is must fantastic. Great, we
had such a great night in your smiling
470
00:31:04.079 --> 00:31:08.279
like it's just like I wish they
wouldn't do it, because I feel like
471
00:31:08.319 --> 00:31:12.319
it's not nice. Oh, it's
definitely not nice. This is and and
472
00:31:12.400 --> 00:31:18.400
when I say the bachelor is back, like they're pulling no punches. They
473
00:31:18.480 --> 00:31:22.119
don't care about that. It's like
we paid our pounds of flesh to the
474
00:31:22.200 --> 00:31:26.200
BAC gods and now we're going to
go back to what we are, which
475
00:31:26.319 --> 00:31:30.279
is awful, kind of a mean
show, and these women wanted to mentioned
476
00:31:30.319 --> 00:31:33.720
badly enough. They'll pay the price. So the first overnight date goes to
477
00:31:33.839 --> 00:31:37.039
Rachel, who gets a date card
that says let's see how deep our love
478
00:31:37.160 --> 00:31:41.720
can go, which sounded dirty to
me a little bit. But Oh,
479
00:31:42.920 --> 00:31:48.599
I was just like, I think
I'm gonna go underground this, we're gonna
480
00:31:48.000 --> 00:31:52.920
genuinely I thought they were going to
Scooba dive because there's this fault line that
481
00:31:52.039 --> 00:31:56.359
has watered it. That's really cool
and incredibly deep. And you it's really
482
00:31:56.400 --> 00:32:00.000
clear, so you can see really
far down be so yeah, you were
483
00:32:00.079 --> 00:32:02.880
like, yeah, yeah, special
wet, special wets, you think,
484
00:32:04.119 --> 00:32:07.160
but that's generally what I thought they
were doing. But no, they went
485
00:32:07.200 --> 00:32:10.240
inside a volcano, which, by
the way, I don't want to do
486
00:32:10.400 --> 00:32:15.480
this. That sounds like a horrible
date. Oh, I like it,
487
00:32:15.599 --> 00:32:17.400
but I'd be all like, can
we have a tour guy who can teach
488
00:32:17.480 --> 00:32:21.519
me all the educational things? And
Yeah, that's true. I don't want
489
00:32:21.559 --> 00:32:23.960
to hang off you and get romantic. I've J I want to learn things.
490
00:32:24.000 --> 00:32:29.319
Well, it's true, because just
randomly being lowered into a mountain without
491
00:32:29.400 --> 00:32:34.200
any information. Also, thank you
for the romantic in and of itself.
492
00:32:34.480 --> 00:32:37.160
He goes, we're going down in
a volcano. It is inactive. Obviously
493
00:32:37.319 --> 00:32:40.400
I'm like, Oh, thank you, I thought you were going into magma.
494
00:32:42.400 --> 00:32:46.920
Well there, I mean there's that
Werner hurt zog documentary on Netflix where
495
00:32:47.599 --> 00:32:51.599
they go right to the edge of
an active volcano and look at it.
496
00:32:51.720 --> 00:32:54.119
So it wouldn't seem so far fetched
that, like, okay, maybe there
497
00:32:54.160 --> 00:32:58.920
could be magma, but it's safe
for something like that kind of thing exists,
498
00:32:59.359 --> 00:33:02.960
sure, but not in the bachelor
now. Well, probably also to
499
00:33:04.119 --> 00:33:07.240
me. This is the two things
I don't like. I'm scared of helicopters
500
00:33:07.319 -->
00:33:09.279
and I'm very claustrophobic. So I
don't want to go into the depths of
501
00:33:09.400 --> 00:33:13.440
a cave volcano and I don't want
to ride in a helicopter. I think.
502
00:33:13.559 --> 00:33:15.680
Yeah, like caves and stuff,
I get it. That scares me
503
00:33:15.720 --> 00:33:19.039
a little bit. Like I need
I need an exit point that is not
504
00:33:19.599 --> 00:33:22.799
above me four hundred feet. Yeah, I think I right to too many
505
00:33:22.880 --> 00:33:25.519
stories about pop getting stuck in caves, and this is the beginning of every
506
00:33:25.599 --> 00:33:30.319
horror movie. Like I'm pretty sure
there is a movie called like spelunking or
507
00:33:30.440 --> 00:33:34.480
caves or so, and it's there's
those monsters in there. Which one is
508
00:33:34.519 --> 00:33:37.240
that one called? I can't remember, but I've seen it. And into
509
00:33:37.279 --> 00:33:38.880
the deep. No, I don't
know, but it's. People seem no
510
00:33:39.079 --> 00:33:44.480
mad right now. They're like a
it's and the knowther title. I can
511
00:33:44.559 --> 00:33:46.519
remember that. It's not that old. I remember the I've seen it.
512
00:33:46.640 --> 00:33:50.480
I've not seen that many horror movies, but that's one of them. Weird
513
00:33:50.599 --> 00:33:53.839
be in the cave anyway. So
they go into the cave. I'm just
514
00:33:53.920 --> 00:33:59.079
seeing. They literally didn't talk about
anything but well, descent, that's just
515
00:33:59.279 --> 00:34:06.160
sent. They didn't talk about anything. They she tried to recap the date,
516
00:34:06.519 --> 00:34:10.400
the hometown date, and he really
didn't have anything to say. Did
517
00:34:10.480 --> 00:34:14.480
you? How did you think Clayton
was on this date? Did you think
518
00:34:14.800 --> 00:34:17.199
Rachel was still number one? How
are you feeling at this point? I
519
00:34:17.480 --> 00:34:22.880
thought, I wrote, that Rachel
is in really deep but, as we
520
00:34:22.000 --> 00:34:28.920
always get context clues from production,
the music was pretty somber. It was
521
00:34:28.960 --> 00:34:34.519
a little ominous. It was not
all sunshine and roses. Yeah, Um,
522
00:34:36.360 --> 00:34:45.559
and I thought she was. I
think, well, Rachel thought she
523
00:34:45.679 --> 00:34:49.440
was getting dropped at the rose ceremony. So that, yeah, context going
524
00:34:49.559 --> 00:34:53.159
in like feeling like she's on the
bubble, even if she is number one.
525
00:34:53.639 --> 00:34:58.280
She's not acting like she's number one. Well, we're learning. My
526
00:34:58.440 --> 00:35:00.639
interpretation of this episode at by the
end of it is that she was not
527
00:35:00.880 --> 00:35:05.880
number one, and I think that's
why think you're the third row. We
528
00:35:05.960 --> 00:35:07.639
don't know that at this point that
I'm talking about. No, for sure,
529
00:35:08.039 --> 00:35:12.760
and I think we're seeing a bit
of like the reality, like she
530
00:35:12.880 --> 00:35:15.840
got that third rose last week and
that was kind of indicative of how Clayton's
531
00:35:15.840 --> 00:35:21.519
feeling. I wasn't seeing the passion
with her as much. We hear him
532
00:35:21.559 --> 00:35:23.599
say that he has the strongest physical
connection with her. So I think he
533
00:35:23.760 --> 00:35:29.119
just really wants to have sex with
her. Well, and she's alert,
534
00:35:29.280 --> 00:35:34.119
is with him. That's a love
language that she's good at, and so
535
00:35:34.280 --> 00:35:37.079
maybe I've interpreted that as then having
a deeper connection, just because it's easier
536
00:35:37.159 --> 00:35:42.000
to see. Yeah, for sure, as the conversations he has with everybody
537
00:35:42.039 --> 00:35:45.519
are so dumb and shallow, but
maybe for him that's in deepest he's ever
538
00:35:45.639 --> 00:35:47.639
talked to somebody. Like yeah,
I find it hard to listen to their
539
00:35:47.679 --> 00:35:52.440
conversations and and remember it because I
they are boring and he uh, he
540
00:35:52.559 --> 00:35:55.719
says, as they're about to go
down to the volcano, we need to
541
00:35:55.800 --> 00:36:00.039
go deeper in our relationship. Ate. No, you need to stop forcing
542
00:36:00.119 --> 00:36:05.000
dumb metaphors. But then I'm also
like, maybe he means it, like
543
00:36:05.559 --> 00:36:08.360
maybe that's just how it like he
actually thinks. I think so too.
544
00:36:08.639 --> 00:36:14.159
I think he's gotten so Stockholm Syndrome
and this whole situation, with this with
545
00:36:14.400 --> 00:36:19.159
production. And she says, I
want him to open up. Essentially says
546
00:36:19.159 --> 00:36:21.400
I want him to open up and
he hasn't yet, and I'm like,
547
00:36:21.960 --> 00:36:27.199
and you think fantasy sweets is the
time to start, like what's gonna know?
548
00:36:27.760 --> 00:36:32.159
Like it's too late at this point. A hundred percent. And this
549
00:36:32.320 --> 00:36:37.840
takes us to the name or.
Yet I do love Rachel. Are His
550
00:36:37.000 --> 00:36:42.239
exact words, which is a weird
way to put it, and then a
551
00:36:42.360 --> 00:36:47.519
dramatic balcony hail, I love you, but let's just Joe. It was
552
00:36:47.679 --> 00:36:52.079
so much. He was just coming
off the hive having sex for the first
553
00:36:52.159 --> 00:36:55.239
time in eight weeks. But he
is where, I swear they have his
554
00:36:55.400 --> 00:36:59.840
grandmother in an undisclosed location. Yes, they do for sure. I mean
555
00:36:59.960 --> 00:37:01.880
that's going to come out at after
the funnels. I hope some. I
556
00:37:01.880 --> 00:37:07.519
hope she gets to come out.
But he is wearing a fucking zip hatter.
557
00:37:07.639 --> 00:37:14.280
I pills, I got. I
need my pills. Okay, he
558
00:37:14.440 --> 00:37:17.519
is wearing a fucking zip up sweater
under his blazer. Again, again,
559
00:37:19.039 --> 00:37:22.320
again, again. I think we
see three different ones this whole fucking you
560
00:37:22.400 --> 00:37:27.000
know how people say people show you
they love you with their actions. Well,
561
00:37:27.280 --> 00:37:30.400
his actions say I don't even love
you enough to wear human, human
562
00:37:30.519 --> 00:37:36.400
clothes. Stop wearing a fucking zip
up under your blazer. Stop, just
563
00:37:36.519 --> 00:37:40.519
stop. It's any kind of sweatshirt
material does not need to go under your
564
00:37:40.559 --> 00:37:45.559
blazer. Shouldn't get sweaters, don't
try to tie try a shirt and a
565
00:37:45.639 --> 00:37:50.079
time in a sweater vest, which
is more conventional. Still not a good
566
00:37:50.119 --> 00:37:52.760
look. There's no good looks from
him. And I think is it when
567
00:37:52.880 --> 00:37:57.679
he's leaving? It's either Gabby or
I think it's Rachel. When he's walking
568
00:37:57.679 --> 00:38:02.760
away he isn't like full on just
sweats like. He has no style.
569
00:38:02.920 --> 00:38:07.599
He has a stylist that he is
ignoring or that is down in the bunker
570
00:38:07.679 --> 00:38:10.920
with his grandma. Don't you feel
like if you were on TV like this
571
00:38:12.000 --> 00:38:15.039
and you had a stylist and you
had no style of your own, you
572
00:38:15.119 --> 00:38:17.159
just be like just don't make me
look like a knob and they'd be like
573
00:38:17.199 --> 00:38:21.320
I find of my professional stylist.
I can definitely do that. Yeah,
574
00:38:21.360 --> 00:38:22.559
I would give a few things.
I'd be like I don't wear high heels,
575
00:38:22.760 --> 00:38:28.079
I don't like dresses. It's like, okay, so Hillary Clinton,
576
00:38:28.119 --> 00:38:31.039
power suits for you. Is that
we're doing? I will only wear jeans
577
00:38:31.119 --> 00:38:37.679
and Yoga Pants, so you are
gonna maybe look a little dress down.
578
00:38:39.360 --> 00:38:44.079
I would just dress like Ellen.
I like Ellen's she looks comfortable. It's
579
00:38:44.159 --> 00:38:49.599
basically like Clayton's. Like I'm never
actually going to UNZIP or unbuttoned and show
580
00:38:49.679 --> 00:38:52.199
my chest, but I want to
be able to. I want to have
581
00:38:52.280 --> 00:38:54.760
a bit. Yeah, we have
not seen shirtless Clinton very much. Not
582
00:38:54.880 --> 00:39:00.880
Really, not much. But Henley
or is zip up tea, I sorry,
583
00:39:00.960 --> 00:39:02.880
is if I'm sure hears or a
little d neck is like, I'm
584
00:39:02.880 --> 00:39:06.280
not really gonna show my neck,
but I want to be on my chest,
585
00:39:06.320 --> 00:39:07.599
but I want to be able to. I want to thank I think
586
00:39:07.639 --> 00:39:13.840
it's because his neck goes from his
ears just down to his shoulder blades.
587
00:39:13.920 --> 00:39:15.760
Like he doesn't have a knack as
much. He's kind of thick. I
588
00:39:15.880 --> 00:39:20.639
mean he's got a pretty good body. I can't really. I can't really
589
00:39:21.119 --> 00:39:23.760
criticize him on that. There's a
weird fucking underbite that drives me insane,
590
00:39:24.079 --> 00:39:28.239
and to smile, which we hate. Can I just know something that this
591
00:39:28.440 --> 00:39:30.800
is what they do every season,
but it makes me creeped out. The
592
00:39:31.000 --> 00:39:35.800
cards for them to go and have
sex in this hotel room are from Jesse.
593
00:39:37.719 --> 00:39:40.760
Jesse. He's like like, I've
allowed you for something. Yeah,
594
00:39:40.920 --> 00:39:45.559
he's like, if you would like, you may go and have consensual sex
595
00:39:45.679 --> 00:39:49.039
in this hotel room. Love Jesse, and it's like, Oh, thank
596
00:39:49.159 --> 00:39:54.119
thanks, Jesse. They said.
It's like it's just creepy. I don't
597
00:39:54.159 --> 00:39:59.159
know, it weirds me out.
would be creepier coming from Chris Harrison,
598
00:39:59.199 --> 00:40:01.159
though, right, I don't know, it's a whole creepy, but Chris
599
00:40:01.239 --> 00:40:06.639
Harris it was more like the puppet
master, where's Jesse's just like the cool
600
00:40:06.760 --> 00:40:08.480
uncle. So it's kind of weird. It's like the guys I'm going to
601
00:40:08.559 --> 00:40:12.960
buy sex in my base something.
I'll make sure not to be home between
602
00:40:13.760 --> 00:40:20.559
eight thirty and thirty. If you
knew a hundred bank my house. Yeah,
603
00:40:20.760 --> 00:40:23.920
I'll least time. CALDOM. I
have a big bull of condoms by
604
00:40:23.960 --> 00:40:27.199
the side of my bed. Just
Snag One, I won't even miss it.
605
00:40:28.519 --> 00:40:36.039
Oh yeah, that's the vine of
getting what else is happening? Okay,
606
00:40:36.199 --> 00:40:38.119
I know. So so Rachel Comes, Oh, Gabby, the date,
607
00:40:38.599 --> 00:40:42.719
and I wanted to know awkward.
I wanted to note this where she's
608
00:40:42.800 --> 00:40:49.079
like I'm sorry in advance. So
she thinks that because she's had sex with
609
00:40:50.639 --> 00:40:53.320
or or maybe there was. This
was cut out of context because they didn't
610
00:40:53.440 --> 00:41:00.239
react as like hurt or angry about
it as you might but it did cut
611
00:41:00.320 --> 00:41:01.639
it to seem like she's like,
well, we had sex, so that's
612
00:41:01.679 --> 00:41:06.440
it. You Do? Yeah,
you two are basically running on empty.
613
00:41:06.639 --> 00:41:08.559
And also, maybe it's less that
we had sex and like he says he
614
00:41:08.800 --> 00:41:13.360
loves me. That's why I couldn't
figure out. I couldn't figure out any
615
00:41:13.440 --> 00:41:16.920
of it, like sorry that my
body has been all over his penis and
616
00:41:17.559 --> 00:41:22.960
now yours is like I couldn't understand
if she was saying like yeah, sorry
617
00:41:22.039 --> 00:41:23.960
for that, he's in love with
me and not you, sorry that we
618
00:41:24.000 --> 00:41:28.000
had sex, or they picking me, like I don't know. And yeah,
619
00:41:28.039 --> 00:41:30.920
maybe it was out of
contact.
I think we made weird because it
620
00:41:30.039 --> 00:41:36.840
was. It was it was weirdly
like it was a bit jarring just because,
621
00:41:36.960 --> 00:41:39.719
like the reaction seemed really out of
sink with what what was being said.
622
00:41:39.760 --> 00:41:44.320
So it's almost like how much did
she tell them? That's what I
623
00:41:44.400 --> 00:41:45.840
want it, but that's what I
don't know. And the thing is too,
624
00:41:46.239 --> 00:41:49.400
that we don't see. They make
it look like it's three days in
625
00:41:49.440 --> 00:41:52.079
a row. What I've heard before
is that it's there's a day between each
626
00:41:52.199 --> 00:41:54.960
date, so he has a day
off. He's not going from like that
627
00:41:55.159 --> 00:42:00.320
morning sex with Rachel to that afternoon
date with Gabby. You gotta reach large.
628
00:42:00.800 --> 00:42:04.960
Yeah, of course, shower a
few times. Hopefully at least.
629
00:42:05.039 --> 00:42:12.199
What I would hope it's a shatter. Yeah. So I don't know when
630
00:42:12.320 --> 00:42:15.239
they film them coming back together,
like, is that really after Rachel just
631
00:42:15.320 --> 00:42:17.559
gave home? Is that like a
day later? And this, and this
632
00:42:17.719 --> 00:42:23.480
is definitely when I knew that susie
would be the one leaving because, yeah,
633
00:42:23.519 --> 00:42:28.840
they spent for every so much time, for every second that they spent
634
00:42:28.960 --> 00:42:31.679
on Gabby and her doubts, they
spent a minute with Susie and you knew
635
00:42:31.719 --> 00:42:35.920
that it was going to be Susie, because it's like they're playing it up.
636
00:42:36.320 --> 00:42:39.719
She's literally on a spiral staircase.
I wrote this out. I said
637
00:42:39.800 --> 00:42:44.880
she is spiraling on a spiral staircase
and they went and found this fucking staircase
638
00:42:45.000 --> 00:42:47.320
to video or her on. Like, I wonder if they drove her across
639
00:42:47.400 --> 00:42:52.000
fucking town? Yes, why down
this staircase? There's not that many tall
640
00:42:52.079 --> 00:42:55.320
buildings in Iceland, so I think
they have to find a spiral straight is.
641
00:42:55.400 --> 00:42:59.360
You've been, that's right, Iceland. I didn't know a lot of
642
00:42:59.400 --> 00:43:02.079
these places where. That the amazing
if that was just footage that they they
643
00:43:02.159 --> 00:43:06.039
made all the women walked down the
spiral staircase that they're like, I will
644
00:43:06.079 --> 00:43:09.320
see if we use this. I
literally think whoever her production, her PA
645
00:43:09.480 --> 00:43:12.920
is, because at this point they
each have their own that they're like.
646
00:43:13.079 --> 00:43:16.039
Okay, so it's like they're confidant
kind of baby. Basically, literally,
647
00:43:16.199 --> 00:43:21.239
yeah, it's their keeper. And
I'm sure they knew she was spiraling,
648
00:43:21.840 --> 00:43:23.519
and this is what I want to
talk out. A lot of footage of
649
00:43:23.599 --> 00:43:29.199
her talking about it. They knew, and they've probably known for weeks when,
650
00:43:29.320 --> 00:43:31.639
because they talk what all this shit
in advance. They knew that Susie
651
00:43:31.679 --> 00:43:36.079
was going to have an issue with
Clayton having such for other people. Yeah,
652
00:43:36.440 --> 00:43:38.760
Oh, they knew, like that's
so fucking hard to guess. By
653
00:43:38.840 --> 00:43:46.000
the way, they knew that Clayton
had Susius is number one and they made
654
00:43:46.280 --> 00:43:53.320
third. They made her third on
purpose, for sure. This is not
655
00:43:53.519 --> 00:43:57.760
by accident. We are skipping Gabby. We need to come back to this
656
00:43:57.920 --> 00:44:00.840
because this is a bit of a
shock about it, and I think that's
657
00:44:00.880 --> 00:44:04.039
also why they have all three of
them together. Then maybe this is why
658
00:44:04.320 --> 00:44:07.360
they were faking us out with the
way they were showing everything and making us
659
00:44:07.400 --> 00:44:09.000
think Rachel was numb. A hundred
and fifty percent. Yeah, that's what
660
00:44:09.079 --> 00:44:14.119
I think. Oh my God.
Yeah, so Gabby's a real dark horse
661
00:44:14.239 --> 00:44:16.400
right now. But I love Gabby. On this date, I loved her
662
00:44:16.480 --> 00:44:20.559
more after this everything. I just
she is the most real person. I
663
00:44:20.679 --> 00:44:25.199
just really like her. So I
and so, even even at this point,
664
00:44:25.280 --> 00:44:30.639
though, so before the meltdown happens. MMM, I sure I'm going
665
00:44:30.679 --> 00:44:39.360
through my notesteff I'm trying to like
retrace the timeline, likes dectic the so
666
00:44:39.519 --> 00:44:45.320
at this point I still am operating
under the when I'm watching, I'm still
667
00:44:45.400 --> 00:44:50.599
operating under my understanding, my belief
that Rachel is number one and I'm like,
668
00:44:50.840 --> 00:44:53.960
it's cruel to make these other to
play out the string when he's already
669
00:44:53.960 --> 00:44:57.639
said I love you to, yeah, Rachel, and and then I'm like
670
00:44:57.760 --> 00:45:00.519
Oh yeah, but then I forgot. He says I love you to all
671
00:45:00.599 --> 00:45:05.480
of them. That's already been established
in the future, in the hundred percent,
672
00:45:05.639 --> 00:45:08.519
in the looking forward, and like, Oh my God, so this
673
00:45:08.760 --> 00:45:15.440
is not a matter of we were
playing with a dead ball, like he
674
00:45:15.599 --> 00:45:19.119
not only says I love you to
Rachel, he's gonna turn around and do
675
00:45:19.199 --> 00:45:22.559
it again. The minute he had
sex with Rachel, I said, Oh
676
00:45:22.760 --> 00:45:29.000
fuck, she's not the winner because
knowing before even going into they with Gabby,
677
00:45:29.079 --> 00:45:30.239
I knew he was going to have
sex at least another person. and
678
00:45:30.360 --> 00:45:34.920
to me, if your first stage
with Rachel and you sleep with Rachel First,
679
00:45:35.239 --> 00:45:37.039
if you are going to pick her, you would not have sex with
680
00:45:37.119 --> 00:45:40.760
the other people if you knew.
If you need a heard, this is
681
00:45:40.800 --> 00:45:45.440
my fonce. Yeah, unless you're
a psychopath, you're not going to have
682
00:45:45.519 --> 00:45:49.159
sex with the two other women.
And this is this is probably me being
683
00:45:49.239 --> 00:45:52.920
distracted by the baby again, where
just this logic. Did Not know for
684
00:45:52.039 --> 00:45:58.639
sure the place for me and I
was yeah, I was well, and
685
00:45:58.639 --> 00:46:01.119
I mean I've been fooled up to
this point and like this all just comes
686
00:46:01.280 --> 00:46:05.519
crashing down on me like totally like
a cart, like like I asked cards
687
00:46:06.000 --> 00:46:09.199
and I was really feeling like Gabby
was the one who was going to be
688
00:46:09.239 --> 00:46:14.519
out me to this, until we
saw susie. It's a lot of stuff
689
00:46:14.559 --> 00:46:15.119
with Susie and I'm like wait,
wait, wait, wait, wait.
690
00:46:15.679 --> 00:46:19.880
I was like, if anyone self
eliminating, it's obviously going to be susie.
691
00:46:20.400 --> 00:46:23.679
So let's talk a little bit about
Gabby state before we get too far
692
00:46:23.719 --> 00:46:27.920
ahead. I wanted an Icelandic cruise, but I love her. Yes,
693
00:46:28.000 --> 00:46:31.440
that's not what we're doing, so
I love her disappointment. She always fucking
694
00:46:31.559 --> 00:46:34.599
pretend they like all these days.
that. I love that. She was
695
00:46:34.679 --> 00:46:37.880
just like she's she's the one I
wanted to do. Not a like a
696
00:46:37.960 --> 00:46:39.920
winer or anything. No, she's
just really about it. It's like yeah,
697
00:46:40.039 --> 00:46:44.280
great, another doone Buggy neardeath experience. We have to have one on
698
00:46:44.360 --> 00:46:46.800
every season, where it's like,
Oh my God, you probably have to
699
00:46:46.840 --> 00:46:50.800
sign a waivers, like if you
end up paralyzed, we're not paying for
700
00:46:50.960 --> 00:46:54.400
it, like Jess Nice. And
then they go to a cafe where Clayton
701
00:46:54.559 --> 00:47:00.079
is wearing the ugliest yellow sweater I
have ever seen. It is this huge
702
00:47:00.440 --> 00:47:05.480
mustard yellow sweater. Booh, it
was still like a turtleneck. He look
703
00:47:05.559 --> 00:47:08.320
horrible. Color of my baby son's
poop, literally, yes, it was
704
00:47:08.440 --> 00:47:15.400
newborn poop, for sure, DIS
HEA's. And their conversation was weird.
705
00:47:15.519 --> 00:47:20.079
It was just like a recap of
everything they've ever talked about before and I
706
00:47:20.280 --> 00:47:23.559
just hate these conversations with the there's
a little bit of talk about the family
707
00:47:23.760 --> 00:47:27.280
and he seemed like he barely remembered. It's like, Oh, yeah,
708
00:47:27.280 --> 00:47:30.239
you have a really funny GRANDPA.
Don't remember much else, like can we
709
00:47:30.320 --> 00:47:35.280
go of sex now? Couldn't care
less. Oh, just one thing I'd
710
00:47:35.320 --> 00:47:40.719
like to call out is Gabby reenacting
and imitating being on a doone Buggy is
711
00:47:40.920 --> 00:47:45.400
something I could watch for hours.
Oh my God, she's so funny.
712
00:47:47.480 --> 00:47:52.360
I want I want more of that. Gabby. Need to Gab Gabby for
713
00:47:52.480 --> 00:47:54.480
her own show. skipped the bout
her. I want these worlds. Let
714
00:47:54.599 --> 00:47:59.840
these do. It's gas world six
season. I'm so in. They go
715
00:48:00.079 --> 00:48:05.079
to this when I see through dome
thing to go that look and very cozy
716
00:48:05.199 --> 00:48:07.400
and cute. I love and I
think you can see the northern lights from
717
00:48:07.440 --> 00:48:10.639
it. So I think it's really
cool, gorgeous. And he goes,
718
00:48:10.920 --> 00:48:15.559
we are doing it in style tonight, and I was like you, Clayton,
719
00:48:15.800 --> 00:48:20.920
please stop, like you might have
been reading it in reading into that.
720
00:48:21.000 --> 00:48:22.920
I feel like, okay, he
said it is he was pulling her
721
00:48:23.000 --> 00:48:28.599
onto the bed book. I guess
you're right. I can't really dependent.
722
00:48:28.800 --> 00:48:32.239
This is where, literally we go
from that clip of him saying that and
723
00:48:32.320 --> 00:48:37.199
then basically starting to have sex to
this is when we see the spiral stairs
724
00:48:37.239 --> 00:48:40.280
spirals there literally go right to it
and it's so good, good, and
725
00:48:40.559 --> 00:48:45.119
I was trying, I'm keeping a
running tally at this point, so I
726
00:48:45.199 --> 00:48:47.239
wrote it down. Okay, so
we have I love you, times one.
727
00:48:47.559 --> 00:48:52.119
I'm falling in love with you,
times one. Yeah, it's just,
728
00:48:52.760 --> 00:48:55.519
Oh boy, he'll boy, Oh
boy, oh boy. And I
729
00:48:55.639 --> 00:48:59.320
was like, Oh, they definitely
had sex. That the this is happening
730
00:48:59.360 --> 00:49:02.639
again, for sure, for sure. So them and go dabby really thinks
731
00:49:02.719 --> 00:49:07.480
it's her. She don't. My
God, she really so sweet and I
732
00:49:07.679 --> 00:49:09.280
just don't think that it is.
I and I don't think it should be.
733
00:49:09.840 --> 00:49:13.880
She goes so much better, but
she should do so much better.
734
00:49:13.880 --> 00:49:16.000
Absolutely. Yeah, he should pick
her if he's smart and wants a fun
735
00:49:16.079 --> 00:49:21.440
wife, but she should go find
someone awesome. She's got the blinders onto,
736
00:49:21.559 --> 00:49:24.119
she's got Stockholm Syndrome. Yeah,
get her out of there, get
737
00:49:24.159 --> 00:49:29.400
her to a safe place, d
programmer, and she will go find a
738
00:49:30.000 -->
00:49:35.239
a man will treat her with respect. I love it. I think you're
739
00:49:35.280 --> 00:49:37.440
her with like an older guy,
to like a really mature, cool dude,
740
00:49:37.679 --> 00:49:42.239
somebody mature. Yeah, for sure. Um, okay, now,
741
00:49:42.679 --> 00:49:46.239
okay, interestingly, when I took
no notes of susy's daytime date, I
742
00:49:46.320 --> 00:49:50.719
only took it down. Said,
okay, one thing before we jump into
743
00:49:50.760 --> 00:49:55.679
the day. Yes, coming to
the SUSIE date, it's only now that
744
00:49:55.800 --> 00:50:01.679
we have footage of Clayton realizing that
the bind that he's in. I'm like,
745
00:50:02.039 --> 00:50:08.199
he's so stupid. It's fantasy sweets
and he's like, I'm gonna hurt
746
00:50:08.400 --> 00:50:14.559
somebody. What it's like? Yeah, dude, maybe you should like soft
747
00:50:14.639 --> 00:50:17.320
pedal it a little bit with the
I love yous and like the romantic sex.
748
00:50:17.519 --> 00:50:21.559
Like con man. He literally would
drives me nuts, is he?
749
00:50:21.679 --> 00:50:24.480
We hear him over and over saying, well, I never planned on falling
750
00:50:24.519 --> 00:50:27.760
in love with three women, like
I will. And I was like,
751
00:50:27.880 --> 00:50:30.480
okay, you could be in love
with three women. Sure. Did you
752
00:50:30.559 --> 00:50:32.159
have to tell all of them?
Nope, that was a choice. Did
753
00:50:32.239 --> 00:50:35.760
you have to sleep with two of
them? Nope, that was a choice.
754
00:50:35.840 --> 00:50:38.000
Like just gives you have those feelings
doesn't mean you can't shut the fuck
755
00:50:38.119 --> 00:50:43.039
up and not say anything. And
now we're at I'm in love with you,
756
00:50:43.159 --> 00:50:46.280
with Gabby's like, Bro there's no
backsey's on that. She heard you
757
00:50:46.440 --> 00:50:52.440
say it. There's no eternal sunshine
of the spotless mind, like she's gonna
758
00:50:52.480 --> 00:50:54.880
Remember. You said that Gabby would
have still had sex with you if you
759
00:50:54.920 --> 00:50:58.599
had not told her you were in
love with her. Gabby was down to
760
00:50:58.719 --> 00:51:00.199
clown, she said. That's,
that's, that's what, whoever you want,
761
00:51:00.320 --> 00:51:02.519
I want you to explore things.
If you like me the best,
762
00:51:02.599 --> 00:51:06.400
I want you to pick me,
but otherwise don't pick me. which she
763
00:51:06.559 --> 00:51:10.599
was the smartest? I mean she
had, she had probably the right expectations
764
00:51:10.679 --> 00:51:14.840
going in. Yes, we're about
to talk about Suzie, who I do
765
00:51:15.000 --> 00:51:19.480
not blame, but now it's good. It like Gabby is probably having the
766
00:51:19.599 --> 00:51:24.159
right attitude for the situation. Yeah, just given it's what she's comfortable.
767
00:51:24.239 --> 00:51:28.159
What do you know what? It
is fine for these women to have different
768
00:51:28.280 --> 00:51:30.920
levels of things are comfortable with and
different expectations. That is that is more
769
00:51:30.960 --> 00:51:36.679
than fair. Yeah, and I
think, I mean I think Gabby's especially
770
00:51:36.800 --> 00:51:38.800
generous. Yeah, Oh yeah,
but if that's just how she is,
771
00:51:38.840 --> 00:51:42.960
I mean that's literally, to me, the definition of sex positive. She
772
00:51:43.159 --> 00:51:46.559
is not taking sex and love is
being synonymous. Oh yeah, that's a
773
00:51:46.559 --> 00:51:49.840
good point. You know what I
mean? For some peason it is like
774
00:51:49.920 --> 00:51:53.239
a healthy relationship with sexual jealousy,
you know, which is which is very
775
00:51:53.320 --> 00:51:59.079
instinctual in human beings, but which, you know, you can choose to
776
00:51:59.199 --> 00:52:02.000
think about it differently. And she's
really like seeing the show as the show.
777
00:52:02.199 --> 00:52:05.599
She's like, I understand that this
is the format of the show,
778
00:52:05.840 --> 00:52:08.039
this is your chance to have sex
with whoever you want, and I'm willing
779
00:52:08.159 --> 00:52:13.840
to accept that parameter. Yeah,
so, right before and one last thing
780
00:52:14.559 --> 00:52:20.360
I noted here that I thought.
Is Clayton just really living in the moment?
781
00:52:20.920 --> 00:52:25.039
Is He just like a simple child
man who doesn't think about tomorrow,
782
00:52:25.360 --> 00:52:30.679
who's just totally thinking of like,
I'm just thinking what I'm going to do.
783
00:52:30.800 --> 00:52:32.719
I don't have to think about anything. He's I guess what's fun.
784
00:52:32.840 --> 00:52:37.280
Having sex with three girls in one
week sounds great. No and and and
785
00:52:37.440 --> 00:52:43.360
no thought for the consequences. And
sure enough we're about to see the COP.
786
00:52:43.679 --> 00:52:46.840
We're about to see the consequences of
his consequence free like I don't know
787
00:52:47.840 --> 00:52:51.960
if he was just really hoping that
no one was going to ask him this
788
00:52:52.079 --> 00:52:54.800
question. And props to Susie for
asking if he's in love with anyone,
789
00:52:55.960 --> 00:53:00.400
because, yeah, it's not often
that you see that. Like usually the
790
00:53:00.480 --> 00:53:02.039
women just kind of accept well,
this is the unwritten rule the show.
791
00:53:02.280 --> 00:53:07.239
Or they asked. Maybe they ask
during fantasyy sweets like in private, but
792
00:53:07.599 --> 00:53:09.239
it's kind of the undertten rule to
show that it's just like you're not you
793
00:53:09.280 --> 00:53:13.039
don't have to tell me how you're
feeling about everyone else, which I think
794
00:53:13.159 --> 00:53:15.840
sucks, and I think props to
Susie for, like, you know,
795
00:53:16.039 --> 00:53:22.400
asking the question. So let's get
into this. Susie goes in pretty uncomfortable
796
00:53:22.880 --> 00:53:30.920
and then the perfect metaphor making her
like freaking
jump in cold water and all
797
00:53:30.000 --> 00:53:35.880
this shit, like Scandinavian spos a
thing, but like it's cold water,
798
00:53:36.039 --> 00:53:38.559
is uncomfortable, and I'm like,
AH, this is it's like, yeah,
799
00:53:39.400 --> 00:53:44.639
he's about to she's about to throw
cold water on their relationship. Yeah,
800
00:53:44.679 --> 00:53:47.280
asking the tough questions is I ah, some metaphors there. That's great.
801
00:53:47.519 --> 00:53:51.559
Also, couldn't we just do the
warm baths? Well, to do
802
00:53:51.719 --> 00:53:55.920
both and then, I mean the
fuck, they're stupid spot hey, let's
803
00:53:55.960 --> 00:53:59.599
move. Yeah, but literally,
I was barely paying attention. I was
804
00:53:59.639 --> 00:54:01.840
like when is she gonna talks like
him? Two minutes into dinner and he
805
00:54:02.079 --> 00:54:07.880
is stepping on a rake so hard, the first of many. Oh my
806
00:54:08.079 --> 00:54:14.039
God. So I'll let you take
the lead here. Sure, I took
807
00:54:14.079 --> 00:54:17.000
a lot of notes, but they're
very crooked because I was like balancing a
808
00:54:17.119 --> 00:54:22.840
clipboard my baby and like reaching around
him to write. So, yes,
809
00:54:22.159 --> 00:54:27.440
pain ink all over his face.
Now I actually might have gotten some income
810
00:54:27.679 --> 00:54:30.960
on see, who freaking cares better
than he what he gets on its?
811
00:54:30.440 --> 00:54:35.079
Yeah, that's true. So basically, it to the night portion and Susie
812
00:54:35.320 --> 00:54:40.199
is visibly stressed. She's obviously been
putting this off, knowing and probably production
813
00:54:40.239 --> 00:54:43.800
told her to wait until the night
day to talk to him, but she
814
00:54:43.920 --> 00:54:46.360
also knew that she needed to do
it. She did know and she clearly
815
00:54:46.440 --> 00:54:51.440
wanted to have that conversation before even
going to the fantasy sweets, which is
816
00:54:51.440 --> 00:54:53.400
a choice. She could have accepted
it and then gone into the sweets another
817
00:54:53.480 --> 00:54:58.639
conversation with him, I think she
preferred. I think she was mentally prepared
818
00:54:58.719 --> 00:55:02.280
for the breakup and probably wanted product
your round and didn't want to just do
819
00:55:02.400 --> 00:55:08.639
it in private and weirdly leave and
so and I also she maybe she didn't
820
00:55:08.679 --> 00:55:12.760
want him to get off the hook
and maybe, you know, she's like,
821
00:55:12.840 --> 00:55:15.800
okay, maybe my backup she's realizing, okay, this isn't going to
822
00:55:15.840 --> 00:55:19.079
work out. Maybe my backup plan
is Bachelorette and I need a big tior
823
00:55:19.199 --> 00:55:22.559
goodbye, which I rend. I
would not entirely blame her for being a
824
00:55:22.719 --> 00:55:27.239
little bit calculating in pr that way, because, fuck it, you know
825
00:55:27.320 --> 00:55:30.599
what I mean. Yeah, he's
being he's treating her this way. Go
826
00:55:30.800 --> 00:55:34.079
out with your head to help high
if you possibly can't. What do you
827
00:55:34.159 --> 00:55:37.039
think of the opinion that she went
into this just wanting to break up with
828
00:55:37.119 --> 00:55:39.079
him and looking for a reason?
I've heard that from some people that they
829
00:55:39.159 --> 00:55:42.960
think, oh, she was just
looking. She's grasping a straws to make
830
00:55:42.960 --> 00:55:45.079
sure she had a reason to break
up at them because she didn't think she
831
00:55:45.079 --> 00:55:46.920
can get this far. I mean, if she's grasping a straws, she
832
00:55:47.000 --> 00:55:52.159
found a really great straw, in
my opinion. I think I seem genuine
833
00:55:52.159 --> 00:55:55.199
about this. I think she seemed
genuine too, but, like she if
834
00:55:55.280 --> 00:56:00.639
this was fake, she found a
great fake. refrue because, like,
835
00:56:01.039 --> 00:56:07.840
he's fucking explanation boggled my mind.
He said a relationship is working through the
836
00:56:07.920 --> 00:56:10.159
hard times, and I'm like,
Oh, yeah, like when I fuck
837
00:56:10.280 --> 00:56:15.960
seven other women, Oh, two
other women, and my seven look my
838
00:56:15.000 --> 00:56:21.079
two looks, like when I fuck
to other women and tell them that I
839
00:56:21.280 --> 00:56:23.039
love them. Well, you know
what I mean. You don't have to
840
00:56:23.159 --> 00:56:27.360
tell them you love them. No, let's just circle back for a minute,
841
00:56:27.360 --> 00:56:30.320
because I think it's important to note
she asks him. Well, she
842
00:56:30.360 --> 00:56:32.639
doesn't ask so. First she says, I think it's important that you know,
843
00:56:32.800 --> 00:56:37.199
and I need to clearly communicate to
you, that if you have told
844
00:56:37.239 --> 00:56:39.440
any of the other women that you're
in love with them, or and and
845
00:56:39.719 --> 00:56:44.000
or if you've had sex with anyone, I want you to know that that
846
00:56:44.280 --> 00:56:47.599
to me means you're not picking me
and I'm done. Like, she politely
847
00:56:47.679 --> 00:56:52.960
says that these are her boundary she's
setting firm boundaries. He is. He
848
00:56:52.119 --> 00:56:54.920
is spiral and you see it behind
the gears are trying to work in his
849
00:56:55.039 --> 00:56:58.719
brain of how he can get what
he wants now to feels like this is
850
00:56:58.760 --> 00:57:01.159
a trapdoor. The like that this
is a trap he stepped into, and
851
00:57:01.239 --> 00:57:06.280
it's like, Bro, you stepped
on this rake. Live with it.
852
00:57:06.639 --> 00:57:07.840
Yeah, you put the rake in
front of you and stepped on it,
853
00:57:08.199 --> 00:57:12.360
and let's just be clear that.
Well, he's telling her about this.
854
00:57:12.920 --> 00:57:20.800
He is editing himself to go when
I slept with someone, and then eventually
855
00:57:20.920 --> 00:57:24.679
he goes both of them. So
he starts off by saying one and then
856
00:57:24.800 --> 00:57:29.599
goes wait, dumb, dumb,
this is on TV. She's going to
857
00:57:29.719 --> 00:57:31.719
know, as is everyone, that
I had sex with both those women.
858
00:57:32.039 --> 00:57:36.920
Yeah, so his NOWs thought was
to lie a hundred percent. He is
859
00:57:37.000 --> 00:57:40.719
trying to lie and edit and massage
the truth, and then he kind of
860
00:57:40.760 --> 00:57:45.079
gave up and was like fuck,
like, this is televised, and I
861
00:57:45.239 --> 00:57:49.320
was like fuck you so hard to
her. And the one huge flip,
862
00:57:49.559 --> 00:57:52.800
the one thing that I just want
to like give your head a shake,
863
00:57:52.880 --> 00:57:59.760
Clayton. In any relationship, especially
a marriage, this would be the equivalent
864
00:57:59.800 --> 00:58:07.880
of having two emotional and physical affairs, basically, and the idea that this
865
00:58:08.320 --> 00:58:12.800
what you've done, which would be
not only a deal breaker, but like
866
00:58:13.119 --> 00:58:15.920
you're a sex addict at that point. This isn't one affair, this is
867
00:58:16.159 --> 00:58:22.760
to major affairs, and the idea
that TV show or no TV show,
868
00:58:22.440 --> 00:58:27.920
this would be completely unacceptable in a
marriage, but three days before you supposed
869
00:58:27.920 --> 00:58:31.559
to get engaged it's all good.
Fuck that. That's just not realistic.
870
00:58:31.960 --> 00:58:36.079
And the fact that you're surprised,
like, dude, have you ever met
871
00:58:36.239 --> 00:58:38.880
a woman? Have you met any
woman like you? No one in the
872
00:58:39.000 --> 00:58:43.719
world who is really okay with this. And I really don't think that Gabby's
873
00:58:43.800 --> 00:58:46.559
that okay with it. I think
she has come around being okay with it
874
00:58:47.000 --> 00:58:52.320
because, again, I think she
has Stockholm Syndrome and she's just signing up
875
00:58:52.360 --> 00:58:54.599
to the show. She's very much
finding on and she's signing up for the
876
00:58:54.679 --> 00:58:59.360
experience and she's very game and I
think I think she has that attitude.
877
00:58:59.440 --> 00:59:01.360
But and maybe susie thought she could
be game two, but then she's like
878
00:59:01.519 --> 00:59:05.800
no, actually, I'm not okay
with this, and this like, well,
879
00:59:05.960 --> 00:59:12.159
dude, I mean you shouldn't be
that surprised. Maybe susie could have
880
00:59:12.199 --> 00:59:15.760
communicated with this, with him sooner, but I think if you're really going
881
00:59:15.840 --> 00:59:19.920
to pick Susie, fucking keep it
in your pants, man. Yeah,
882
00:59:20.079 --> 00:59:24.840
like to me, it's just it's
like I've read, I've read, reading
883
00:59:24.880 --> 00:59:28.000
on read it a bit and like
trying to see what people are saying,
884
00:59:28.039 --> 00:59:30.320
and it's very divided. So there's
the side of it. Very much.
885
00:59:30.760
--> 00:59:35.320
I thought that he'd be like all
Susie, so this. So there's once
886
00:59:35.400 --> 00:59:39.719
I were saying, Susie, you
know she's being a victim and she signed
887
00:59:39.760 --> 00:59:44.199
up for this show. The show
features something called fantasy sweets where they get
888
00:59:44.199 --> 00:59:46.679
alone time. So, like,
you knew he was dating other girls and
889
00:59:46.719 --> 00:59:50.360
that's what you signed up for.
But you also don't need a reason to
890
00:59:50.400 --> 00:59:52.440
set a boundary. You can say
no for any reason. You one hundred
891
00:59:52.480 --> 00:59:57.119
percent. Also, to me,
I think you can even in the real
892
00:59:57.199 --> 01:00:00.679
world. It's been a long time
studing dated, but to me you could
893
01:00:00.760 --> 01:00:05.239
be dating someone and not mutually exclusive, but I think you could set the
894
01:00:05.280 --> 01:00:07.280
boundary that if you're going to have
sex with them, that you want to
895
01:00:07.360 --> 01:00:10.119
know that that is you know if
we're going to have sex. I want
896
01:00:10.119 --> 01:00:14.039
to make sure, like it's just
you and I, and I'm not comfortable
897
01:00:14.079 --> 01:00:16.320
and being a relationship where you're having
sex with other people. Like I think
898
01:00:16.800 --> 01:00:22.119
dating someone does not necessarily mean a
like a carte blanche to have sex with
899
01:00:22.159 --> 01:00:25.159
whoever you want. If you want
to marry me at the end of this
900
01:00:25.320 --> 01:00:30.119
dating, intentionally dating someone, not
just fucking around, like I am a
901
01:00:30.199 --> 01:00:35.840
hundred percent on Susie side. Like
I think it's a very reasonable limit and,
902
01:00:36.079 --> 01:00:37.880
as much as racial has us to
said, have a free pass.
903
01:00:38.559 --> 01:00:42.840
Let's just be clear. As much
as Rachel hasn't said this, it's very
904
01:00:42.960 --> 01:00:45.880
possible and based on her reaction in
the sobbing, she feels the same fucking
905
01:00:46.000 --> 01:00:52.480
way. Absolutely she does. Why? Why would you ever ever think that
906
01:00:52.679 --> 01:00:58.880
a woman that you're going to pick
to marry and who is going to pick
907
01:00:59.000 --> 01:01:06.519
you would be okay with that?
Why would you think that any woman would
908
01:01:06.599 --> 01:01:10.440
not want to feel special? In
Yeah, at least a small way,
909
01:01:10.599 --> 01:01:16.039
I'm completely interchangeable with these other women
and they're gonna see more, barely,
910
01:01:16.440 --> 01:01:20.440
barely an inch you literally, this
is the one inch you could have given
911
01:01:20.519 --> 01:01:23.119
her, because whoever you're going to
pick, if you're the bachelor, your
912
01:01:23.440 --> 01:01:27.679
future fiance or wife is going to
have to watch back this show. Watch
913
01:01:27.719 --> 01:01:30.920
you make out with everyone, watch
you say sweet nothing to everyone,
fuck,
914
01:01:30.199 --> 01:01:34.639
watch you connect and bond with everyone. So the only thing you can
915
01:01:34.760 --> 01:01:37.960
give her is it's saying I literally
went to even if you go to fantasy
916
01:01:38.000 --> 01:01:42.719
seats with three people, you totally
can. Most Bachelors only have sex with
917
01:01:42.840 --> 01:01:45.960
one person, not exclusively. It's
not a rule. Some of them that
918
01:01:45.079 --> 01:01:49.559
sex with more than one, but
in general it's mostly common to have sex
919
01:01:49.639 --> 01:01:53.559
with one person because they're protecting them, they're protecting the relationship. They know
920
01:01:53.679 --> 01:01:57.599
they're going to have to watch this
and fucking four months. You know what
921
01:01:57.679 --> 01:02:02.199
else you can do? You can, you can, you can communicate,
922
01:02:02.599 --> 01:02:07.400
if that floats your boat, like, if Susie's really your number one,
923
01:02:07.199 --> 01:02:10.599
talk to me to tell her what
your intentions are, or ask her,
924
01:02:10.880 --> 01:02:15.280
like how do you feel about this? How are you feeling about fantasies?
925
01:02:15.519 --> 01:02:19.239
Because the you know, being a
human being in the world who has met
926
01:02:19.320 --> 01:02:22.239
a woman before in his life and
maybe even dated one, I would assume
927
01:02:22.360 --> 01:02:27.960
that you prefer that I not have
sex with everyone and treat you like and
928
01:02:28.119 --> 01:02:30.760
tell them change all that I'm in
love with them. Yeah, like,
929
01:02:30.920 --> 01:02:32.679
even if in your brain you're like, I am feeling in love with these
930
01:02:32.719 --> 01:02:37.440
people. By the way, there's
this thing called your mouth that you don't
931
01:02:37.440 --> 01:02:39.920
have to open. You could just
shut the fuck up and just think,
932
01:02:40.079 --> 01:02:45.360
like even an all think an hour
ahead in your life. Like literally,
933
01:02:45.440 --> 01:02:50.719
he can't go. He has no
filter, he has no ability to consider
934
01:02:50.800 --> 01:02:53.760
the consequences of his actions. He's
really a child. I can't understand what
935
01:02:53.840 --> 01:02:57.920
he thought was going to happen.
I look, it's so crazy. What
936
01:02:58.039 --> 01:03:00.079
do you think was going to happen? Let's just susy didn't say anything.
937
01:03:00.159 --> 01:03:04.000
She's like, well, I'll just
assume he hasn't whatever. She doesn't just
938
01:03:04.159 --> 01:03:07.519
sucks with him. He picks whatever. He picks her. Now you're watching
939
01:03:07.639 --> 01:03:10.400
this. Back in four months she
said, wait, what? You told
940
01:03:10.480 --> 01:03:13.920
them all you're in love with them
and you had sets with both of them.
941
01:03:14.880 --> 01:03:17.000
This is it. This is the
fucking key to a lasting relationship.
942
01:03:20.280 --> 01:03:23.159
He forgot that this is a two
way street. This is not the dictator
943
01:03:23.280 --> 01:03:28.960
date someone and picks a freaking concubine
one lady. This is this felt a
944
01:03:29.000 --> 01:03:31.239
little bit like the Sasha Bard God
movie, the dictator. Like that could
945
01:03:31.320 --> 01:03:37.360
be how he gets buried kind of
big, seriously, and the way he
946
01:03:37.480 --> 01:03:42.079
talked to her was discuss it was, it turnslt her a lot. He,
947
01:03:42.320 --> 01:03:44.480
and this is what people on read
it were argue about, like it's
948
01:03:44.519 --> 01:03:45.800
not gas lady. It was a
fight. I was like, uh,
949
01:03:46.039 --> 01:03:50.400
to meet Gas Lady is when you're
making the other person feel like they're insane
950
01:03:50.480 --> 01:03:54.599
and crazy or that they're complete.
Well, yeah, they're being unreasonable and
951
01:03:54.679 --> 01:03:58.960
they're the problem. Wait, why
could you possibly think this? Are you
952
01:03:59.199 --> 01:04:02.599
nuts, like it're like talking to
somebody like that, considerate gas lighting?
953
01:04:02.679 --> 01:04:05.880
Like me too, and I don't
carribly react this way. How and it's
954
01:04:05.880 --> 01:04:10.519
like anyone react this way? Like
no, no, so mean to her,
955
01:04:10.920 --> 01:04:14.719
and he was. Poor Susie.
I genuinely felt horrible for her.
956
01:04:15.360 --> 01:04:18.800
She begged it for she like apologized. He was owning it, she said.
957
01:04:18.840 --> 01:04:23.760
I maybe I should have told you, but I and I try fucking
958
01:04:23.840 --> 01:04:25.719
agree with her. If it was
me, I don't want to have to
959
01:04:25.800 --> 01:04:28.760
tell you that if you want to
marry me, you should fucking put two
960
01:04:28.800 --> 01:04:31.199
and two together and us that you
shouldn't fuck more than one person. And
961
01:04:31.440 --> 01:04:38.199
maybe, just maybe, Clayton,
if she matters that much to you,
962
01:04:39.039 --> 01:04:43.480
beg for her forgiveness. Yeah,
because he's just like, let's talk through
963
01:04:43.599 --> 01:04:47.119
this. I'm like, it's not
really talking through it because you don't have
964
01:04:47.159 --> 01:04:49.519
an excuse. What are you going
to say that it's going to convince me
965
01:04:49.639 --> 01:04:55.760
that this is okay because, like, otherwise the TV show said I could.
966
01:04:55.840 --> 01:05:00.239
So I did. Like he's yeah, he's essentially letting a production schedule
967
01:05:00.039 --> 01:05:04.719
scuttle his relationship. His potential relationship
is potential mayor. Yes, you had
968
01:05:04.760 --> 01:05:09.119
to participate and yes, you had
to pretty much. I get it.
969
01:05:09.159 --> 01:05:12.159
They're going to make you take at
least two or two of them to fantasy
970
01:05:12.199 --> 01:05:15.639
sweets, because otherwise it's just too
obvious. But you don't have to have
971
01:05:15.719 --> 01:05:18.480
sex with them. And it's just
like Tatia and I did, like they
972
01:05:18.519 --> 01:05:21.360
went together into the fantasy and they
a hundred percent to other sex. They
973
01:05:21.400 --> 01:05:26.880
had biblical that absolutely didn't and I
think they I think they probably had a
974
01:05:26.920 --> 01:05:30.760
good chat, decided they weren't going
to get married. I'm sure Tashia was
975
01:05:30.840 --> 01:05:33.679
very nice about it, and then
that's it. So I think Clinton's argument
976
01:05:33.800 --> 01:05:36.159
in his head a little bit and
what we're going to see is that he's
977
01:05:36.199 --> 01:05:41.039
going to argue that for him sexual
chemistry is really important and he wanted up
978
01:05:41.039 --> 01:05:44.719
sex with someone before he gets married
to them. Okay, said, I'm
979
01:05:44.800 --> 01:05:47.280
sure that's what Tiger Wood said to
like. For God, what I don't
980
01:05:47.400 --> 01:05:53.199
understand of that argument, which I
think is probably what he's his only,
981
01:05:53.559 --> 01:05:56.159
you know, fake argument, is
that, okay, let's just say you
982
01:05:56.239 --> 01:05:59.559
had sex with Susie, and let's
just say she's week one, like she's
983
01:05:59.599 --> 01:06:00.920
the first eight. Your sex is
Susie, the sex socks and you have
984
01:06:01.000 --> 01:06:05.519
no chemistry and you go. Are
you now gonna go? Okay, she
985
01:06:05.719 --> 01:06:10.119
was my number one. I was
pitching myself marry her. Now I'M gonna
986
01:06:10.199 --> 01:06:13.760
circle and go, okay, maybe
Gabby. Let's try Gabby and see if
987
01:06:13.840 --> 01:06:15.840
she's good and then I'll marry her. Like, are you this unattached to
988
01:06:15.920 --> 01:06:19.360
these women that they're just like pick
a door and I'll just kind of see
989
01:06:19.400 --> 01:06:21.480
and I can marry one of them, like. I mean, we have
990
01:06:21.599 --> 01:06:25.679
to, we always have to come
back to the back that this is the
991
01:06:26.000 --> 01:06:30.400
stupidest way to get married humanly imaginable. If he gets married, ever,
992
01:06:30.559 --> 01:06:34.840
at this point, I willways shot, except Kira. Kira might marry him
993
01:06:34.880 --> 01:06:39.079
and have sex with that she's doubling
down. And kire's got doctor money.
994
01:06:39.280 --> 01:06:43.320
Like, Oh yeah, she's a
doctor. He's making three hundred grand one
995
01:06:43.440 --> 01:06:46.440
time. She'll make three hundred grand
a year forever. Also, he's not
996
01:06:46.599 --> 01:06:49.360
going to make money after this.
You know how? Okay, so a
997
01:06:49.480 --> 01:06:53.039
lot of bachelors and bad threats.
The goal of stay at to a million.
998
01:06:53.079 --> 01:06:57.880
That's how you make good money.
A million followers, and like tatio's
999
01:06:57.880 --> 01:07:00.760
at like two million. I think
nice. He guess how many? I
1000
01:07:00.840 --> 01:07:03.519
want you to guess how many followers. Clayton has fiftyzero. He has two
1001
01:07:03.599 --> 01:07:08.239
hundred thousand. Oh Wow, that's
this still quite a lot. No,
1002
01:07:08.519 --> 01:07:11.000
it's not. Not for a lead. Oh, I know, I bet.
1003
01:07:11.199 --> 01:07:12.840
I bet. I'm going to look
it up as we talked. I
1004
01:07:12.920 --> 01:07:15.519
Bet Susie has more followers than him. Oh, interesting, I bet she
1005
01:07:15.639 --> 01:07:19.320
was also a beauty queen. Yeah, she had a lead and she didn't
1006
01:07:19.320 --> 01:07:21.719
have that many follower before this.
I guess not. Oh, sorry,
1007
01:07:21.760 --> 01:07:27.280
she has a hundred fifty thousand.
Let's see who else is Bigam as Susan,
1008
01:07:27.400 --> 01:07:31.599
Gabby? Let's see, Gabby has
a hundred and twelve. So he
1009
01:07:31.840 --> 01:07:35.840
only has double them. But,
like, I think Katie probably doesn't have
1010
01:07:35.920 --> 01:07:40.960
that many either, because she was
not really well liked. She has eight
1011
01:07:41.079 --> 01:07:47.159
hundred ninety four. He whoa and
she sucked. She said she was not
1012
01:07:47.320 --> 01:07:51.280
a great lead. No, no, so I'm curious how many Blake,
1013
01:07:51.400 --> 01:07:55.440
and I'm just going out of spirally. Big Blake Moyne says four hundred and
1014
01:07:55.519 --> 01:07:58.960
fifty eight thousand. So he has
more than double claim. I hope he's
1015
01:07:59.000 --> 01:08:01.079
living his best life with shout out
to Blake on this podcast. I like
1016
01:08:01.199 --> 01:08:06.199
you, like Blake. So the
fact. Okay, I just want to
1017
01:08:06.239 --> 01:08:09.719
get that. I won't getting back
to Clayton and Susie and then let's get
1018
01:08:09.760 --> 01:08:14.239
into predictions. Yes, Um,
one thing she said. She apologizes and
1019
01:08:14.320 --> 01:08:15.640
says I should have told you what
sex means to me. It's like,
1020
01:08:16.399 --> 01:08:19.800
I don't know that the onus was
on you to explain that sex means to
1021
01:08:19.880 --> 01:08:26.720
you what it means to most people
in conventional monogamous relationships. I don't think
1022
01:08:26.800 --> 01:08:29.840
that's necessary. I don't think that's
on her and to me it's just like
1023
01:08:31.039 --> 01:08:33.479
it's yeah, it's like a weird
thing where he's trying to say, if
1024
01:08:33.520 --> 01:08:36.000
you had told me this, things
would be different. It's like you had
1025
01:08:36.039 --> 01:08:39.760
to tell me that you didn't want
me to run over your dog with my
1026
01:08:39.880 --> 01:08:42.640
car when he was annoying me,
like I didn't there. So your dogs
1027
01:08:42.760 --> 01:08:45.199
meant that's you much to you?
Yeah, how do I know? I
1028
01:08:45.319 --> 01:08:46.640
just thought he's being fucking annoying.
I had of my car like it is
1029
01:08:46.680 --> 01:08:49.479
what it is, like I don't
understand what he thinks, like, I'm
1030
01:08:49.600 --> 01:08:53.319
sorry, I pete on the floor. I didn't know what your toilet meant
1031
01:08:53.359 --> 01:09:00.039
to you. I don't what I
really hope, by the way, this
1032
01:09:00.119 --> 01:09:02.800
is not a prediction, but I
hope. I hope Jesse kind of hands
1033
01:09:02.840 --> 01:09:06.319
it to him the way that Clayton's
dad appears to hand it to him.
1034
01:09:06.720 --> 01:09:11.560
Well, Jesse kind of sidles up
in the middle of them breaking up and
1035
01:09:11.680 --> 01:09:15.119
it's like, thank God it's going
on. I was expecting a bit like
1036
01:09:15.239 --> 01:09:18.079
he was, like he should have
been. It's PJ's for some popular it's
1037
01:09:18.159 --> 01:09:24.439
like I wanted rock, only wanted
to be like because I should have just
1038
01:09:24.560 --> 01:09:26.920
like gotten on the bed together.
It's like, tell me what's going on
1039
01:09:28.119 --> 01:09:31.840
made he has nothing to fucking contribute
other than I knew you were really liking
1040
01:09:31.880 --> 01:09:34.479
her, like you're falling in love
with I feel like in his head he
1041
01:09:34.680 --> 01:09:39.039
was like, yeah, you shouldn't
have been six with two people. But
1042
01:09:39.159 --> 01:09:42.239
he's supposed to be kind of on
Cleaton said, and he's like, Dude,
1043
01:09:42.279 --> 01:09:45.520
I've got nothing for you because this
is all your father. Can we
1044
01:09:45.720 --> 01:09:48.800
note, K. can we here's
some m ice for the wound from you
1045
01:09:49.000 --> 01:09:54.279
stepping on the rake, like Bruce. Here's some ice. Sorry, bed.
1046
01:09:54.840 --> 01:09:59.319
Yeah. Can we talk about predictions
the look ahead? Yeah, I
1047
01:09:59.720 --> 01:10:04.039
last thing I'll say. Yeah,
I just her apologizing to him was very
1048
01:10:04.119 --> 01:10:06.760
sad. I thought if he cared
about her, he could have begged for
1049
01:10:06.840 --> 01:10:12.279
he hurt her feeling so much and
I think the Heath mad at her,
1050
01:10:12.479 --> 01:10:17.079
blaming her. Losing control to the
degree that he did tells me a lot
1051
01:10:17.119 --> 01:10:20.920
about his character and it was a
shame. Yeah, it's almost like he's
1052
01:10:20.960 --> 01:10:25.279
been acting this whole season and then
we saw his true colors come out.
1053
01:10:25.319 --> 01:10:31.880
I wonder it's been very control if
he's finally gone off the rail like this
1054
01:10:32.119 --> 01:10:34.279
is me part of it. It's
going to be stressed and I think these
1055
01:10:34.359 --> 01:10:38.840
situations and not having your family or
friends to talk to you, I do
1056
01:10:39.079 --> 01:10:41.840
think it fucks with your brain,
sure, but at the end of the
1057
01:10:41.920 --> 01:10:45.800
day. This was not how an
adult, you know, handles being existed
1058
01:10:45.880 --> 01:10:51.119
and being upset. But also nobody
has ever pushed back on anything he wants
1059
01:10:51.159 --> 01:10:55.680
to do. Everybody's just saying great, everything you want to do is good,
1060
01:10:56.439 --> 01:10:59.039
because they just want him to fucking
make good TV. And we did
1061
01:10:59.159 --> 01:11:00.680
kind of see him flip on Sarah, like when he was pissed at Sarah
1062
01:11:00.720 --> 01:11:03.800
and felt like Sarah was taking advantage
of him. He did get not he
1063
01:11:03.880 --> 01:11:08.199
didn't get kind of me. Well, you got me real like. So
1064
01:11:08.359 --> 01:11:11.199
he kind of has two sides.
Like you don't seem to want to piss
1065
01:11:11.239 --> 01:11:13.920
him off, because he seems like
a Dickhead, and I mean just the
1066
01:11:14.000 --> 01:11:17.000
idea that he thinks that Susie or
anybody should be able to sit around and
1067
01:11:17.119 --> 01:11:26.439
take that kind of and that much
humiliation. It's it tells you. It
1068
01:11:26.520 --> 01:11:29.640
tells you a lot about him.
It's also like breaking up with someone and
1069
01:11:29.920 --> 01:11:32.399
slamming the door locking it behind you, like there's Ting, like are you
1070
01:11:32.479 --> 01:11:35.920
done talking yet? Yes, get
up there to me. That is leaving
1071
01:11:36.199 --> 01:11:41.960
no no opening for any kind of
reconciliation when you end, nor should there
1072
01:11:42.000 --> 01:11:45.479
be. Now he owes her in
enormous apology if he ever even wants to
1073
01:11:45.560 --> 01:11:48.159
talk to her again. I think
that's what we're going to see. Is.
1074
01:11:50.039 --> 01:11:53.640
Okay, let's do predictions. First
of all. Okay, let's do
1075
01:11:53.720 --> 01:11:57.880
it. Predictions. The reach ahead. I wrote down. I really hope
1076
01:11:57.960 --> 01:12:00.359
his dad makes him go apologize to
every one, like I think his dad
1077
01:12:00.479 --> 01:12:03.960
is gonna March him, like don't
come back here until you've apologized, like
1078
01:12:04.079 --> 01:12:08.359
he's his dad is set out and
read it to me first. Yes,
1079
01:12:08.680 --> 01:12:12.399
I love his parents. I love
that his dad is one hundred percent saying
1080
01:12:12.479 --> 01:12:15.880
stop act like a victim. You
chose to do this, you made your
1081
01:12:15.960 --> 01:12:18.039
bed, so you need to line
it. Like, thank God, it's
1082
01:12:18.079 --> 01:12:23.439
awesome. He desperately need somebody to
stand up to him and tell him that
1083
01:12:23.520 --> 01:12:27.920
what he's doing is shitty. Yeah, I'm just like, I don't care
1084
01:12:28.000 --> 01:12:30.279
to see him cry. He we're
going to see him cry next episode,
1085
01:12:30.680 --> 01:12:34.520
like I'm so I laugh every time
I see next I got. He looks
1086
01:12:34.520 --> 01:12:39.479
like go weener. I was like, I I was worried I was going
1087
01:12:39.520 --> 01:12:44.119
to give Jamie Shaken Baby Syndrome because
it was vibrating so hard from laughing.
1088
01:12:44.439 --> 01:12:47.640
Oh my God, just kidding.
He's fine, everything. It's a lot
1089
01:12:47.800 --> 01:12:51.399
of what we've seen. I don't
think there's a lot new in the reach
1090
01:12:51.439 --> 01:12:58.000
ahead. We see Jesse say something
where he's like
I had I know.
1091
01:12:58.359 --> 01:13:00.600
I have some information for your like
some things that's going to change everything.
1092
01:13:01.600 --> 01:13:04.600
Like what, there's nude photos of
Gabby on the Internet. I feel like
1093
01:13:04.680 --> 01:13:08.079
that literally could just be like your
parents are here, you can go talk
1094
01:13:08.159 --> 01:13:12.319
to the h like, I've information. It's gonna Shock you. The contents
1095
01:13:12.439 --> 01:13:19.039
of the contents of the room behind
this door may frighten you, like and
1096
01:13:19.199 --> 01:13:23.479
your dad is pissed, so you
should be scared. Yeah, I want,
1097
01:13:23.680 --> 01:13:27.399
sadly, to make run laughs or
some like take off your Britches and
1098
01:13:27.479 --> 01:13:30.560
get over here. You're getting go
find us, go find a stick.
1099
01:13:30.920 --> 01:13:33.760
Yeah, go find me, go
cut me a switch. That's Lord.
1100
01:13:35.560 --> 01:13:43.319
Okay, predictions. I think these
two girls are going to self eliminate both
1101
01:13:43.439 --> 01:13:46.640
a I think we see no proposal. I think he cries, they cry.
1102
01:13:47.640 --> 01:13:50.000
I think they're going to I think
you're going to see them from a
1103
01:13:50.119 --> 01:13:56.439
united front and both say like we
both deserve better and like yeah, kind
1104
01:13:56.439 --> 01:13:58.880
of support each other in that way, which I think will be really nice
1105
01:13:58.920 --> 01:14:03.640
to see. I think that'll be
like the thing where they they choose themselves
1106
01:14:03.880 --> 01:14:11.119
and they support each other and choosing
themselves over him. Yeah, and I
1107
01:14:11.960 --> 01:14:15.840
think we're going to see him apologize
to do you think he's gonna Chase after
1108
01:14:15.920 --> 01:14:20.119
Susie? Because we've seen this before
on closed season he flipped. Cassie left
1109
01:14:20.239 --> 01:14:24.399
him. CASSIE was his number one
pick. Cassie went home to California.
1110
01:14:24.680 --> 01:14:30.479
He followed Cassi to California. So
we're seeing. We saw something like there
1111
01:14:30.640 --> 01:14:33.880
was something to reach ahead, about
something return, someone returning from his past
1112
01:14:34.000 --> 01:14:38.680
or something like that. Oh,
did we miss it? Was it was
1113
01:14:38.760 --> 01:14:42.680
kind of implied. I don't know
if that was the exact wording, and
1114
01:14:43.079 --> 01:14:45.199
so maybe think, okay, Susie, but I also thought, like,
1115
01:14:45.399 --> 01:14:49.239
is Michelle still with her guy?
Is that possible? Like, yes,
1116
01:14:49.920 --> 01:14:53.920
she is good, thank God.
Yeah. No, no, I don't
1117
01:14:53.960 --> 01:15:01.079
think Michelle from clanton, like do
you? I don't think there's any chance
1118
01:15:01.199 --> 01:15:05.720
that there's any girl other than Susie, Gabby, Rachel, I think the
1119
01:15:05.880 --> 01:15:11.680
only chance. My guess. No, my guess is that maybe they all
1120
01:15:11.800 --> 01:15:15.840
leave and Rachel comes back and goes. I'll give you another chance if you
1121
01:15:15.920 --> 01:15:19.159
want to be with me. Maybe. I think she's pretty fucking like in
1122
01:15:19.279 --> 01:15:23.319
it to win it with him.
I think she really does want to be
1123
01:15:23.439 --> 01:15:26.079
with him. Then she's going to
watch the whole show and they won't be
1124
01:15:26.159 --> 01:15:30.119
together anymore. I think it's the
final rows. Oh, do you think
1125
01:15:30.159 --> 01:15:32.479
that'll be, like the final act
where it's like, after seeing all this,
1126
01:15:32.600 --> 01:15:35.720
I can's. I think we're going
to see a yeah, and because
1127
01:15:35.760 --> 01:15:40.319
they've heavily implied that, it's like
it's not over yet. We don't know
1128
01:15:40.439 --> 01:15:43.920
what happens because it hasn't happened.
So my guesses are going to try and
1129
01:15:44.000 --> 01:15:46.960
act, whether it's true or not, like none of these people have spoken
1130
01:15:47.039 --> 01:15:50.960
since the show ended. And today's
your first day back, seem susie.
1131
01:15:51.000 --> 01:15:54.760
First Day. How do you feel? And they're going to talk through all
1132
01:15:54.840 --> 01:15:58.399
this shit and he's going to ask
fucking Rachel to date him or something stupid,
1133
01:16:00.319 --> 01:16:04.520
and Neil Lane is going to be
rolling over in his premature grave.
1134
01:16:04.880 --> 01:16:08.359
Well then, how, yeah,
how is he going to get just shut
1135
01:16:08.399 --> 01:16:15.079
out of he's like wait, so
fuck an earring. He's like waiting in
1136
01:16:15.159 --> 01:16:16.359
the car, like, what do
you mean? I don't get to what
1137
01:16:17.000 --> 01:16:20.760
what? I Want my money back. I don't get to advertise my diamonds.
1138
01:16:21.279 --> 01:16:26.000
They're going to find some dumb way
to still get the money like it
1139
01:16:26.199 --> 01:16:30.359
was. Says I'm sorry, please
take me back, like the time.
1140
01:16:32.119 --> 01:16:36.439
Oh my fuck. Do you think
he ends up with anyone? I hope
1141
01:16:36.560 --> 01:16:40.560
not. I hope they all find
someone better than him and I really hope
1142
01:16:40.680 --> 01:16:44.720
that we get Gabby as Bachelorette,
but my God, I'll be that lucky.
1143
01:16:44.800 --> 01:16:46.920
I want Gabby as Batcherette or I
want to Duel Bachelorette and have it
1144
01:16:47.039 --> 01:16:51.159
be susy and Gabby. Wait that
there's there. There's never going to duel
1145
01:16:51.199 --> 01:16:57.079
batchloright right. What a ext like
Claaren Tatia, where it's like Claire with
1146
01:16:57.199 --> 01:17:00.520
self eliminate. One time they did
it and it was very frowned up on
1147
01:17:00.600 --> 01:17:01.840
sw stopping. Done again. I
don't think they'll do it. But they
1148
01:17:01.920 --> 01:17:06.760
had two bacherettes and the first night
the guys got to decide who
they wanted
1149
01:17:06.800 --> 01:17:12.119
to vote for and whoever got the
most votes got to stay as Bachelorette.
1150
01:17:12.800 --> 01:17:16.800
WHOA when was that? When did
that happen? That was Caitlyn Bristow seasons.
1151
01:17:16.960 --> 01:17:19.520
That was like, Oh wow,
old so maybe ten years ago,
1152
01:17:19.720 --> 01:17:23.920
like eight, yeah, something like
that. That is harsh. It was
1153
01:17:23.960 --> 01:17:27.479
scathing. And then one guy that
really liked Britt, the other girl,
1154
01:17:27.640 --> 01:17:30.239
he left and they ended up dating
for a little bit because he had really
1155
01:17:30.319 --> 01:17:31.479
voted for Britain. He's like,
I'm not here for Gatland, sorry,
1156
01:17:31.840 --> 01:17:34.039
which I think is a kind of
good to me. It's like, if
1157
01:17:34.079 --> 01:17:36.800
you didn't vote for that girl,
you shouldn't get to keep dating her.
1158
01:17:38.319 --> 01:17:43.199
Somebody on, somebody with integrity on
reality TV. That's really something. Yeah,
1159
01:17:43.239 --> 01:17:45.439
it was cute. They went off
and like it showed them dating and
1160
01:17:45.520 --> 01:17:48.159
whatever. So it was fun.
I have no fucking idea what's going to
1161
01:17:48.239 --> 01:17:51.520
happen other day. I think we
have made some good guesses, but I'm
1162
01:17:51.520 --> 01:17:57.560
gonna see a hard play for Bachelot
from Susie. I think we already seen
1163
01:17:57.560 --> 01:18:00.640
it. Don't Oh, maybe after
the final rest, after the final rows.
1164
01:18:00.680 --> 01:18:03.359
It's going to be a very like
composed, classy. I accept her
1165
01:18:03.399 --> 01:18:08.760
apology, but you know that how
you treated me is completely unacceptable. Kind
1166
01:18:08.800 --> 01:18:12.520
of she's not going to bitch at
him, she's just going to be composed
1167
01:18:12.560 --> 01:18:15.520
and Beau. She's going to be
miscongeniality. Yeah, literally, yeah,
1168
01:18:15.560 --> 01:18:18.640
and Gabby. I think Gabby,
I don't know I don't think there's any
1169
01:18:18.720 --> 01:18:21.640
chance he hands up with Gabby.
I think if he ends up with anyone,
1170
01:18:21.680 --> 01:18:26.239
it's Rachel. I think Rachel is
the most likely at this point,
1171
01:18:26.560 --> 01:18:32.479
and surprisingly, not because she's this
number one like we thought, but because
1172
01:18:33.359 --> 01:18:38.159
he's her number one. Yeah,
in a way she's the one who,
1173
01:18:38.479 --> 01:18:41.199
I think, loves him the most. I think so too, and I
1174
01:18:41.319 --> 01:18:45.520
think that maybe she'll see past it, but she seems pretty fucking broken by
1175
01:18:45.600 --> 01:18:49.479
the whole scenario. I think there's
going to be a lot of tears next
1176
01:18:49.520 --> 01:18:53.600
week and I really don't know what
it's going to be like when the dust
1177
01:18:53.640 --> 01:19:00.640
settles. So I don't know.
Yeah, that rose ceremony is is going
1178
01:19:00.680 --> 01:19:03.079
to be a disaster. It's going
to be great. I can't wait.
1179
01:19:05.880 --> 01:19:12.840
Ah, I think this is the
best season ever. I'm totally game with
1180
01:19:13.239 --> 01:19:17.359
these chaotic falling apart endings. I'm
totally fine with it if we don't end
1181
01:19:17.479 --> 01:19:24.479
up with an engagement. I definitely
love a lead who is a complete disaster.
1182
01:19:24.960 --> 01:19:28.000
That's a lot of fun. On
natchelor, I like Bachel, where
1183
01:19:28.039 --> 01:19:31.039
the lead is a disaster and EPS
on rakes and does all the scrap.
1184
01:19:32.199 --> 01:19:35.800
And then in Bat Surrette I like
a smart lead who has a sense of
1185
01:19:35.920 --> 01:19:39.920
humor. I think that would be
Katie, but she ended up being a
1186
01:19:40.000 --> 01:19:43.800
real scold. I feel like Gabby's
gonna give us like Goofy tastia vibes,
1187
01:19:43.960 --> 01:19:46.319
like Tasha plus goofy. I'm not
saying Taishe is goofy, because Tasia was
1188
01:19:46.399 --> 01:19:49.039
kind of like fun and good.
I thought she was a good Shasha had
1189
01:19:49.079 --> 01:19:54.720
a sense of humor. Yeah,
and and she knew how to be entertaining.
1190
01:19:54.760 --> 01:19:57.560
I would have loved to see her
on a normal season where it wasn't
1191
01:19:57.800 --> 01:20:00.079
yeah, she can have deserved the
whole thing. Yeah, she would have
1192
01:20:00.079 --> 01:20:02.840
been great. But anyway, I
really hope it's Gabby. I've already excited,
1193
01:20:02.920 --> 01:20:06.119
like if it's Susie, I'm I
like Susie and I'm not mad at
1194
01:20:06.159 --> 01:20:11.000
it, I'm just so I wouldn't
be a Gabby. Yeah, we're GABBY'S
1195
01:20:11.039 --> 01:20:14.840
gonna rule paradise, one or the
other or both. Or maybe they'll do
1196
01:20:14.920 --> 01:20:17.279
a duel one where you know how
they chose Katie and Michelle and, yeah,
1197
01:20:17.840 --> 01:20:23.079
from the same season. That's true. Yeah, they really should.
1198
01:20:23.079 --> 01:20:27.720
The bachelors are way better at being
bacherettes than these bachelors. He's batchlors wrong.
1199
01:20:27.960 --> 01:20:31.920
Oh my God. Where do they
find these people? Don't know.
1200
01:20:32.600 --> 01:20:35.560
So I heard Michelle was really good. I just we obviously didn't watch her
1201
01:20:35.600 --> 01:20:42.039
season a break, but Katie was
bad. To Man, kid is boring.
1202
01:20:42.439 --> 01:20:45.600
Yeah, okay, let's go,
because you need to go be a
1203
01:20:45.680 --> 01:20:53.159
parent. You can't already be the
back. Jamie, you're going to listen
1204
01:20:53.159 --> 01:20:55.439
to this in the future. I
know that your dad's a jerk. Oh,
1205
01:20:55.479 --> 01:20:59.680
he's never going to find this.
I'm already emailing it to a to
1206
01:20:59.800 --> 01:21:03.439
an email I created form. Oh, amazing. Well, okay, I
1207
01:21:03.560 --> 01:21:10.880
guess we'll see everybody next week.
Pray that we can make the recordings happen
1208
01:21:11.119 --> 01:21:14.119
and hopefully we'll do one. Will
do one episode to cover the both.
1209
01:21:14.319 --> 01:21:15.399
Yes, and we'll fine. Have
Time. Well, we all ad there
1210
01:21:15.399 --> 01:21:19.720
won't be enough material and we'll try
to have special guests if we possibly can.
1211
01:21:20.079 --> 01:21:24.720
And Yeah, until then, we'll
stay by. have got everyone.
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01:21:25.199 --> 01:21:25.840
Bye. Bye.