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Hello and welcome to another episode of MDL Voices, the podcast that takes you behind the scenes and lets you meet the people that make up one team MDL.
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It's the people that make this business and ultimately drive its success, and they've got some great stories to tell.
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That is why MDL Voices exist.
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So to give you both your formal titles and recognition, Andrew, you're the technical authority here at MDL, and Mike, your head of assets and operations.
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First of all, and this is something that I'm always wondering, you know, we talk so much about innovation, don't we?
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And it means different things to different people in different companies in different roles.
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Here at MDL, and to you, what does innovation mean?
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Innovation is about coming up with engineering-led uh solutions uh for clients.
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So we're starting with product, uh, we're starting with uh the product parameters, how we understand the uh product that we're uh handling.
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Uh so innovation is all about taking um these challenges and coming up with solutions.
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Uh and through that we can use the technology and we can use the methodologies um to work out how the best way we can handle that and provide a way of doing that safely, efficiently.
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When did you join One Team MDL?
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What brought brought you here?
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What was your career path?
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So I started out, engineering's my passion.
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So I started that over uh 20 years ago.
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Started out with uh onshore, so structural engineering, um, moved to Aberdeen in 2011.
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Um, so it was more offshore based.
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Um so I got interested in mechanical and offshore engineering, so uh was working and studying um at that time.
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Uh seeing M and DL were at the forefront from what I could see in terms of technology.
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Uh so I had a real um decided to make that move uh four years ago.
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Before we delve any more into your career, I'm interested in just finding out from yourself because as I say, innovation means many things to many people.
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Um, Mike, you're at MDL, tell us how long you've been here and and and what innovation looks like here for you.
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Similar to Andrew, um it is about products, and I think most people would agree that creating new products that solve quiet issues and is is the normal innovation um terminology, but I I also think it goes beyond that.
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It's it's for us we've got a lot of existing equipment and it's using that equipment to solve new challenges for maybe different industries.
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So, how can we apply our equipment in a different industry from the typical offshore oil and gas environment?
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But even just like internally to India, we've got a vast fleet of equipment, and it's like how do we manage that equipment, how do we maintain it, how do we keep it running and reliable, how do we improve it?
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And it's using innovation or innovative ideas to improve that.
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So, our computerized maintenance management system, for example, is digitalizing what we do for maintenance as one example of using data to try and lead what we do with equipment.
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So everyone wants to build and design new equipment.
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That's that's the sexy part of engineering, that's the exciting part of it, and and we do that, and we do that for clients that come to us um with problems they want us to solve, but it's everything in the background as well.
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There's a lot of stuff goes on in MDL that people don't see that is very innovative.
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How long have you been part of the team?
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When did you join MDL?
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Uh I joined three years ago.
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Um, so I came from um another company who did um somewhere type equipment, uh renting that equipment and building that equipment.
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So And then MDL came on the horizon, did they?
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Yeah, I I was I was in that job for 16 years.
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Um so I pretty much started my career there.
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I I actually started working for my my dad's company um when I was at university.
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So he he was an engineer, my brother was an engineer.
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I decided I want to be an engineer when I was at school.
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That's not uncommon.
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No, no, and um yeah, I guess I guess that's what was drummed in my my brain that you must become an engineer.
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No choice.
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So I did that at university, and then I was I was lucky enough to be able to work with my dad in in the summer in one full semester, um, learning how to draw on the computer and the engineering calculation.
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So I worked for him and then I joined um the other company I was with for 16 years and kind of worked my way up from graduate engineer to to running that that cable and pipeline business.
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So yeah, to take the step to NDL was like a a big one because you know you're quite secure in a job for 16 years.
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But I I must have been a pretty persuasive argument to get you to join NDL though.
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Well, I think like 10 years previous to that, I'd probably say like MDL were on the same path as that company in terms of where I was.
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And MDL seemed to like skyrocket, and this company seemed to kind of stay quite steady in terms of that aspect of the business.
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Okay.
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And I always started to look up to NDL and go, wow, I wish I had equipment like that, or you know, I wish we could go and build equipment like that.
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Um and then when I had the opportunity to join here, I was like, well, it's kind of a no-brainer.
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It's it's the top to be.
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In my mind, it was like, well, NDL are the top company in the world to do this type of stuff.
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So if they want me to join, then I would love to join MDL.
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But that sounds pretty special.
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You know, that's a that's a that's a good story.
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That's a good professional story that you know you admired the company before you joined it, and now here you are.
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And I appreciate what you say about you know, engineering being in genes, almost your destiny, so to speak.
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But you wouldn't still be in a senior engineering role if you weren't actually there was a passion inside you for engineering.
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Yeah, definitely.
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I mean, my my career kind of started off as a graduate and then I became a design team leader.
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So I was actually designing the equipment and from a structural mechanical point of view.
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At that point in my career, I was you know, I was loving the fact that I could I could teach other people or at least get a team together to go and create some new new equipment.
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So that was very exciting.
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And it was the same draw that team did to to NDL.
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I thought, well, if I've got that that background knowledge and that um passion for it.
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That's a great story.
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I love that.
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So where do the ideas come from?
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Andrew, first of all, you know, bringing new innovation to the market for MDL.
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Yeah, no, we just understand what the um the what the challenges are.
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You always start with the challenge.
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I love just coming up with uh solutions and different ideas, uh brainstorming.
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Um I've been running an innovation forum in the company.
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Who's all involved in that?
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So we bring people from different backgrounds, uh, but certainly those who've got the design experience, um, we've got the operational experience um and also from from sales and uh a really good mix.
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And yeah, we present those challenges that that clients have and uh we brainstorm them.
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And innovation is not just about coming up with technology for technology's sake, it can be about taking existing proven solutions and adapting them or optimizing them and applying that in a different way in order to come up with the right solution.
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So it's all about integration, optimization, and that opens up the possibility of not using uh dedicated vessels for installing um flexible product or retrieving the flexible product.
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It could be for um other uses, and we've been able to adapt that back deck so um we're vessel agnostic uh in our approach, and that can open up all sorts of possibilities.
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I don't think we can really go much further without mentioning MDL receiving its uh most recent, it's third Queen's Now Kings award.
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But this one it was a first in innovation.
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Now, first of all, congratulations, that's incredible.
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What a reflection on your your work and your dedication.
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That's that's a big deal.
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I think everybody in the business is proud to receive that award.
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Um you know, it's it's it's for the wheeled HLS, which we designed and built a number of years ago.
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They actually built another one um just over a year ago.
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And I think for everybody who's involved in that project, the the more recent one, you know, what what a ride that was actually getting that built, what a hard work and effort went into that.
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And I guess on the engineering side, it's more your side of things.
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My side at the time was actually building that.
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Um so to finish that project was great and then deploy that on a project was was was awesome.
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Yeah.
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Just being involved in that is is a great sense of achievement.
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And just you know, what has brought us to TMDL is as Mike said, is that passion for engineering, a passion for innovation.
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And it's one thing doing the design, but to see that come to fruition is is amazing.
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So to get an award for it as well is fantastic.
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It's a great sense of achievement.
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So we're we can't
underestimate the hard work that's involved in in you know winning this award, but really just bringing any new concept from a design on a drawing board into reality, you know, the time scales, the amount of people that's required, the dedication, you know, what is I know you we we can't there's there's no set formula, but what does that look like here at at MDL?
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What's the what's the the process?
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You know, as I said, it we start with the product.
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Um so in this case, um it was taken taking a step away from the traditional way of using uh lay systems and coming up with a more innovative way of doing that.
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Um the challenge in this particular case was uh retrieval of product in deep water.
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Um when you're recovering product uh in the traditional sense, uh you're doing it with a static uh overboarding chute, and when you're retrieving that, you have the contact of the product with the chute, and that produces friction, and what you get is called the capstan effect.
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So we had to come up with that uh idea, that innovation, how can we reduce that friction?
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How can we have an optimized piece of equipment to do that?
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And that's where the the wheeled HLS came into being.
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So it's all about brainstorming, taking that technical readiness level.
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Uh, and once uh we've got that, we then move to the the concept level.
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So we're getting the design team involved, the the drafting team and uh the uh discipline engineers, um, and from there you can get into to detailed design.
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It's a large undertaking and has multiple people from across the business and different disciplines involved.
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Um, but uh it's it's an enjoyable journey, it's exciting.
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I'll ask Mike specifically, how do you see um technology changing the future of say mechanical handling?
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I guess for me, like technology and what we do in the back deck is is really developing how we monitor and view what we're doing offshore.
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So, you know, we're sitting in a control room just now, and this is like a great example of us wanting to have eyes on the equipment at all times.
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Um, so we've got you know live feeds coming back to the beach, um, so we can have technical experts in this room helping people offshore if there's an issue or even just to oversee what's going on from a training point of view.
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Um, a lot of activity happens offshore that people don't get to see onshore.
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So this is a great room for people to come in and actually just witness what we're doing.
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But we've also got data feeds coming back from our equipment as well, so we can actually go and see what's physically happening with machine internals and during a project.
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So for me, like the the the big the biggest thing is having having live contact with equipment and with people offshore.
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And we've also got these VR hedge sets that people can wear offshore as well.
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So again, if we're going out to do an equipment inspection or if we just need to, you know, open something up and try and fix something, you can have a guy here who's you know an expert telling somebody offshore what what to do.
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That's the main thing.
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That sounds quite fun for engineers.
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It's it's pretty it's it's cool, yeah.
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It is it's cool.
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You know, we've spent a lot of money and and time to try and get all this set up properly.
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But it it's not just cool, it's it's like there's actual benefits to it as well.
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You know, we can save time, we can we can um make sure that everything's always up and running at all times.
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And when you were both studying engineering and coming into the industry, did you think you would be involved in something like this with VR headsets and digitalization?
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I mean, you've been at the forefront of bringing this to MDL, but did you think back then?
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You dream about it.
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Um but to see it come to fruition, it's yeah, it's fantastic.
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Um, I mean, even the the workstations that we have here, um, the same company supplies for mission control for uh space, space travel.
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Well it's a bit of a step, it's like a childhood dream closer to that that reality on in terms of um that yeah control room.
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So yeah, to be filming this in here is is fantastic.
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Both strike me also as very hands-on, you're both very hands-on things.
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Love coming in here as Mike said, that um if there's a live operation and there's been some um uh some remote support that was done for clients, particularly for uh equipment that we've sold.
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And I came in here and one of our team leads uh was here and he was explaining what was going on, and you know, as close as you can get to the back deck uh of a vessel without actually being on the vessel was was very, very similar.
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So it was fantastic to um just to get that experience um and exposure and be able to learn from that.
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Uh so it's a great educational tool as well.
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I'm just gonna say I'm not gonna take any credit for this at all.
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Why not?
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Because I you you say we look like very hands-on people.
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I probably am in terms of you know getting physical with equipment and trying to fix things.
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Um I guess doing things of the computers like designing and drafting, that type of stuff.
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Uh I'm not I'm not a tech savvy person at all.
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So like I'm clinging on for dear life most of the time when we're trying to develop all these new things, but trying to learn at the same time.
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You you on the other hand are like straight in there, you know, developing most of the things.
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You play to your strengths.
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Yes, yes, I would say so, but I won't pretend I can do something when I can't.
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So um, but it's it's really interesting from my point of view because I'm kind of involved in the discussions and what we want to do going forward, or like, you know, I've got to try and implement it with my team to to help you guys do what you're developing.
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Um, but I'm not I'm not a tech savvy person.
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Put it that way.
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Yeah.
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So NDL clearly has a very uh long operating lifespan and engineering does not stand still.
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How do you see the looking just into the future, not too far into the future, just you know the immediate future, how you continue to evolve your roles but support your your customers and clients uh with their ever increasing challenges, unique, differing challenges?
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Um so from traditionally what I've been involved in is sub-sea cable insulation retrieval.
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Um, but it's not just sub-seed umbilicals, rises and flow lines, it's power cables, it's fibre optic cables, it's thermoplastic composite pipe, it's wire rope, um, it's it's rigid pipe, it's it's a number of different um mediums, and they don't just exist within oil and gas uh and renewables, there's there's other sectors as well that needs equipment in order to handle these flexible and delicate products, um, whether it be in shallow water or deep water, we've got such a comprehensive, wide-ranging equipment capability already.
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Uh so why stop at that?
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Why not start innovating for for other um industries or how industries evolve and as we see that transition to uh more into renewables, particularly for floating offshore wind?
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Cable insulation for power cables, for fibre optic cables is only going to increase um significantly, exponentially.
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Uh so we don't just need the volume, we need to be able to do that at scale.
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Uh, so how we can innovate our own equipment.
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Um, so being involved in those kind of projects is fantastic and uh and yeah, seeing that evolve.
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A busy future ahead.
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Thank you.
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I've really enjoyed speaking to you both and congratulations once again on an award.
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That's uh thank you.
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That's a significant achievement.
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Thank you very much for listening today.
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