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[SPEAKER_02]: You've heard me say many times that being a professional wrestler is the closest thing you can get to be in a rock star without being a rock star.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's been a hard time for the business man, you know, for fans and wrestlers alike.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I just, it's a lot of loss.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to show it window.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's okay, you know, it's okay to go and get help.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's okay to talk to somebody.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Another day and another down there is a holler to the world I'm not the way I live and love the goods, I'm not the girls So some parties and the club, no, but mama's and I come So the German engineer is sent on deep-dish guns So the tour of the world ain't seen in the fans I'm the walkin' till the end, we're taking pictures, shaking hands Every day for me's in moisture tracking, open by the pearl I love the way I'm Memphis, what a holler to the world
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[SPEAKER_03]: Welcome back to marking out with MVP and Duane Swazzy on MVP.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm Duane Swazzy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But sometimes I go by my, my alter ego spike.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Speak, yeah, yeah, yeah, the real life spike speak.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, in that serious spike, speaking, he's like 27, he's not even in his 30s.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He did all that living.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I guess he probably dies at 28.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, but spoiler alert, but he, uh, yeah, he was in a military fighting and then he would decindicate.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He did a lot of living in that short amount of time.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And there's yellow you got on today's his, uh, it's, uh, it's a yellow.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They were there as a go yellow.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He was yellow.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Blue soup with the yellow shirt black tie and he's a master of Gico, though, Bruce Lee fighting style.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, man, a little melancholy man.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, man.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, yeah, I guess we can, you know, get into it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So, guys, this episode, we want to stop and mark the three losses, the wrestling world took inside of a few weeks.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Rick Akbarger, uh, the fan, the whole business newest signed guy, uh, Andy Williams, uh, the butcher.
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[SPEAKER_03]: who gave his body to the business and his whole life to music before that, and Benjamin sadly packed, um, you don't have to, you know, level to a generation, level to WWE fans packed to AEW, you can demand the gravity for God, yeah, yeah, it's, uh, it's
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's been a hard time for the business man, you know, for fans and wrestlers alike.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, it just, it's a lot of loss.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm gonna show it window that I was just kind of composing myself for Andy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then wake up and find out that Ben died.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And literally, literally, literally minutes after I found out about Ben, I found out about a sign guy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like back to that, you know, I was just like,
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[SPEAKER_02]: Just, uh, I don't know, man, it's, you know, in this industry, through my career, you know, I've had a lot of friends and colleagues pass like it just proportionately hired number of people in the wrestling business.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And, uh, while we don't know yet what the cause of death was for,
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[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, then or or Andy, um, they were both young man 40 and 42, thank you very young man.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So we don't know what the cause of death for either one of those men yet, uh, it was reported that Rick had been dealing with some healthy shoes, okay, but I'm not aware, but um,
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[SPEAKER_02]: But when I first met Andy, I was booked to do a couple of indie dates in Canada.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And
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[SPEAKER_02]: be Andy Pepper, aka the blade, and all of that there's pepper barks over there always butcher in the blade.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, no, no, that can't later, but back then I meant that's when I met Andy Williams.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He wasn't the butcher yet.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I remember moving to like a mall or something and we'd do the hung out, got something to eat, and that's when I found out that that he played guitar for every time I died.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then I started talking music.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And he was pleasantly surprised.
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[SPEAKER_02]: My musical taste.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I was like, oh man, you're like, oh, why?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Let me start talking music and we hit it off right away.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's kind of crazy because you've heard me say many times that being a professional wrestler is the closest thing you can get to be in a rockstar without Piano Rockstar.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He was both.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And he got into wrestling.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He wanted to be a wrestler.
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[SPEAKER_02]: and early, and his training,
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he heard his knee.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And that's when he picked up the guitar.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He started playing guitar while he was injured.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Dude went on to...
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[SPEAKER_02]: to be a successful guitarist and a band, and a successful progress, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: He did both touring, making money to him both.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you know, like Dan, man.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And they were great guy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Just, you know, my last conversation with him was about music.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And we, that's the one thing we would all, we would never talk about wrestling.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So we'd always talk about music.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, and then, you know, that that I heard that he died at a show, like literally in the ring, you know what I was saying?
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, yeah, man, that that that was tough because I used to use my buddy, man.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm mad at him because he was supposed to hook me up with some gear from the violent gentleman's club like it's like a hockeywear like, you know, fight, you never hook me up with my stuff man, I used to give my hey man, when I give my stuff we laugh body and then pack.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm the first time I met him was when I was wrestling for New Japan, and he was wrestling on, I think, for Dragon Gate.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, okay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That him and Rapunki one night, somebody going to introduce me to him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I remember that time, because you know, at that time he hadn't had mainstream success.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He was no Dragon Gate.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Super respectful.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, like, yeah, you know, cool.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, he crossed past many years later.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I was like, oh, yeah, I remember you and watching him made me go, oh, I'm very special.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Whoa, how are you doing that?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like literally the man that gravity forgot, like, wow.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And everybody, as you can see, the pouring of love and respect, all like,
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[SPEAKER_02]: Everybody that knew him loved him, you know, just his energy man.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And no, to be fair, he and I never hung out, you know.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But we would always, you know, working together, I would have pleasant exchanges who'd joke around about how I love Newcastle.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's what we're just
from that area.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And apparently, they found him in his rental car on a responsive, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And again, we don't know the cause yet.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And one of the last things that he did publicly was pay tribute to the butcher and he Williams.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Only to have a bunch of people pay tribute to him just weeks later, you know.
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[SPEAKER_02]: acknowledge our friends and our fallen colleagues.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Preston piece, Ben, and one of the kind, you know, they'd say, no, the matches if you would have with Osprey, or then with Ricochet or guys, like they're just like the transporter, but no wires, you know, that single take, you know,
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then, like, right, literally, minutes after I found out about Ben, found out about Simon Guy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I was like, no way, man, no, man, I was still in bed.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Then I didn't want to get out of bed, you know?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Simon Guy used to get on my nerves, man.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then the very beginning, because I used to be like, dude, stop trying to be a partner.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So just be a fan, you know?
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[SPEAKER_02]: And, but he grew on me, you know, and he used to be, you know, he used to bring signs and the time effort that he put it in the creating his signs, you know?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Or would you see him like every week?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Dude.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That guy will go to like 50 shows a year now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That his life was going to show and he'd always be in the front row.
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[SPEAKER_02]: With a blue mechanic sure, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
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[SPEAKER_02]: One of the things that was cool about SineGuy is that as far as fans go, I used to initially, my thought was, you know, stopped trying to be a part of the show, which would just be a fan.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But he was a fan.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And
he was sometimes he'd be like the,
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[SPEAKER_02]: the he would leave the orchestra like you know when he got the baby face in the hole in the baby face he'd be the one to get everybody gone and he'd get chance started he'd have the different signs and he'd make specific signs and he would put time and effort in the science and man I can't remember the signs that he would make about me but sometimes I would look and I just I laugh and I laugh and I laugh and I laugh and I laugh and I laugh and I laugh and I laugh and I laugh and I laugh and I laugh and I laugh and I laugh and I laugh and I laugh and I laugh and I laugh and I laugh and I laugh and I laugh and I laugh and I laugh and I laugh and I laugh and I laugh and I laugh and I laugh and I laugh and I laugh and I laugh and I laugh and I laugh and I laugh and I laugh and I laugh and I laugh and I laugh and I laugh and I laugh and I laugh and I laugh and I laugh and I laugh and I laugh and
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's a good one, that's good.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We have thank you, thank you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I know some time I do try to snatch your sign and rip it up, you know.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I remember one time, I thought that happened.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And we were, I don't remember where we were, and he had two beers.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And they were, you know, the big tall beard.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I, you know, this place, the charge, like 20 bucks for a can of beer.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I took one of his beers and I chucked it and I poured the rest of it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's like, oh, come on, man.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But then afterwards, I had somebody go get them and bring them to the back.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, that was called a, but bought a couple beers.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He was a good guy, man, just loved wrestling, loved wrestling much like Dan and Andy, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: These guys loved wrestling.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, I am...
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think this is great time to say.
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[SPEAKER_02]: A few words and raise a glass.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Japanese today, but we're going to finish this when this was almost done, how could you sing them all age 12 years?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we're going to finish this one.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's a little bit left in there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If, if you're drinking along with us at home, please join us, raise your glass
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[SPEAKER_02]: You've been satirly packed, level to the butcher, Andy Williams, and to a side guy Rick Actberger.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'll see you guys down the
road.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, while we're on the subject, and I apologize to all of you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: because has low melancholy and I know a lot of you come here for, you know, for a pick me up, you know, but losing, you know, some important people in our lives, collectively, the wrestling family, that's heavy, what I want to take a minute to make this like a public service announcement too, because
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[SPEAKER_02]: And as you know, the rest of the business, we have a disproportionately higher number of deaths and it used to be because of the drug abuse and say what you want about the WWE and the evil empire.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We'll be kicking that wellness policy and the grand scheme of things.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It saved a lot of lives, and it changed the culture.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The drug culture that was so pervasive and pro wrestling, it's not like that anymore.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Guys, you know, you don't hear the pill bottles rattling in the locker room and you know, the guys aren't faced out in their food and catering.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's not a thing anymore.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I was never a part of that pill culture.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But the other part is,
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, for a lot of guys in pro wrestling, the steroid abuse, um, that was prevalent for a very long time, steroid use is still a thing, but, you know, not like it used to be, you know, not not the same way, um, but you'd have guys eating, you know, a lot of red meat and you know, a high cholesterol, you know, a lot of heart attacks, a lot
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[SPEAKER_02]: the importance of a CT scan.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm gonna give you a few more names, people in the wrestling business, names you've never heard of, but friends of mine, my good friend, my shareer, aka Mike Taylor, Mike a Taylor, he wrestled in Japan as Sunday Beach.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I was a great guy, man.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Me and Mike, we got to be friends when we were in developmental together.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, so you know them for a while.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He never got an opportunity, and it sucks because I won't get into the politics, get involved in wrestling, and then...
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, it's not the talented guy, man.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He was good, man.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And he was a guy that worked his way into a contract.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But he was in Louisville at Louisville in his family, went out there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He didn't have a contract.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And he finally worked his way into a contract and got signed and got sent a deep self.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And that's when Bill Demont used to have the...
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[SPEAKER_02]: those misery camps where some days it sucks so bad.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We would all go to this Mexican restaurant and have margaritas for lunch.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh man, Miller.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we know get some margaritas and then go back for training.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We need to take the edge off, man.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I'll go all the picnic.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But we stayed tight, man.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm so lucky that I got to see Mike
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[SPEAKER_02]: literally weeks before he passed man because I had a connection in Atlanta and he lived in Atlanta and
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I had a long connection a long way over and I hit him up and he's like, yeah, two men, I'll come get you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So he came and picked me up and, you know, me and Mike were drinking buddies.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So all the time, say we find a Mexican restaurant to read us.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We went and had some margaritas and got a bite to eat.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then I changed my, I've changed my, my, my connection.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, let's put it back later.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then Mike, he, it just got a new place in his wife's
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[SPEAKER_02]: stole the whole place and he got a new place, and I said, I was cool, man, I changed my flight to tomorrow.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And we proceeded to get stupid drop.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He got offensively drones.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And might, but the supplies to make some margaritas back at his house.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Of course, margaritas ever.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They were awful.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Bowie, we drank them, and the next day, um, we ended up going to Luke Gallows house.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We drank some more.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We, and, uh,
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[SPEAKER_03]: He just camp and I had that land, I just kept changing my flight.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But it was meant to be, you know, I don't believe in the womb, you know.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not in, I don't dwell in the spiritual realm.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But it was meant to be, man, because Mike and
I, he was, he was a friend of mine.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, lots of buddies, acquaintances, partners, colleagues, but Mike was my friend.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And we got a chance to actually spend some time together, not knowing that a few weeks he was going to die, you know.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And we have made plans, his mom, bless her, all right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: She bought a pub in Scotland.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Where's her?
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[SPEAKER_02]: She bought a pub in Scotland.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And Mike would hit me up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, man, I'm over here in Scotland, man.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Because hey, I got this mark over here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He doesn't believe I know you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And he'd be like, told you, man, off and all we laugh, joke about it, you know.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But he was telling me, yeah, you got to come over here and hang out in Scotland, man.
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[SPEAKER_02]: At the pub, we got a rule of stairs and crashing the room at the pub.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, you wanna leave me in the pub all night?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Trust me, you know.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I've never been Hawaii.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Might grew up in Hawaii.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's a former Marine, and I think his dad was stationed out there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So he grew up in Hawaii.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And for years and years, we'd always talk about what we're going to Hawaii.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It might take me to Hawaii.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And he's going to show me, you know, like a native.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And he was a white one.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He was a amateur wrestler, too.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm going to come with my limbo as they, too.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He said, they used to go out of hard.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They'd be like, hey, Holly Boy, how do you boy?
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[SPEAKER_02]: But when he made him tough, that Mike was a good, he would literally give the shirt off his back.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think he was 49, died of a massive corattree.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Hard attack, hard attack, hard attack, died just a few weeks after we hung out.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, maybe, maybe a couple of months, you know.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Francisco Kiyatsu, Florida Indie guy,
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[SPEAKER_02]: uptown Frankie Capone guy came up with you know wrestling for IPW and Tampa back in the days I got it love wrestling more than me like he'd love he he drive a thousand miles for free man like he just love for wrestling more than anything and uh
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[SPEAKER_02]: Craig got man and man when I when I made it he was so happy like you know just the genuine joyer that he had for me, you know, we stand touch and talking, um I think he was 50 and he died in his sleep All right, Jack.
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[SPEAKER_03]: How did it tag?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and it was crazy because I wanted to his funeral and Florida
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[SPEAKER_02]: And we were all joking around because it was standing room only, like, who's who were the guys, and you know, guys who Frank Frankie had been friends with who who made it, you know, and Ron Mimi had mentioned that they man, you know, you got some guys in there that actually made some money in this business that came to pay respects to Frankie, you know.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And we were joking around like, Frankie, Frankie finally sold a place out, you know,
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[SPEAKER_02]: And he knew that as many people showed up for his funeral and he could see who showed up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He'd be like, yeah, the main event, everybody came to see me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Santa Rouloli finally sold a place out Frankie.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Chinoxel, he was 50.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Heart issues, heart related issues.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I still all like to say this, man, if you're a women pay attention to, but this is primarily for men, if you're a male, and you're in your 40s, especially if you've lived a wrestler's lifestyle, a bodybuilder's lifestyle, eating lots of red meat, you know, if you've been on the
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[SPEAKER_02]: hard drinking smoking, partying.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Go get a CT scan.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Book an appointment with it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It doesn't cost a lot.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's really inexpensive.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like I think less than a hundred bucks, since it's looking at your heart.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Here you have to see if you have any
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, this is where I hear like blockages.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Because heart disease is when you when you're you start your artery start to thicken and they get hard and just from a calcium build up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And if you get a CT scan, that can actually prevent a major heart attack because you can see it and they can do something about it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You can be aware and make changes to your diet.
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[SPEAKER_02]: and to your lifestyle that would literally save your life.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And, oh, Mike Mondo, he used to be part of the spirit squad, Mikey, he's jack now, like he's powerlifting.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like he's, he wouldn't recognize me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I told him, I said, Mondo, I need you to get a CT scan bro, this is my thing now, like I'm telling the boys, get a CT scan man, you know, cause you're on the gas or even lots of red meat, real.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And,
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[SPEAKER_02]: He hit me up, he said, I did it, man, I'm good.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I got my seat to scan.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, right there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So get a CT scan.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If you, if you love yourself, if you love your family, if you love your friends, you love the people around you, get a CT scan.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Find out what condition your heart's in.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I got one and I'm good to go.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's a matter of fact.
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[SPEAKER_02]: My cardiologist told me, you know, I got the wolf park.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's a white thing, you know, but that's not fatal.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But he said, I don't know about the rest of you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what else you got going on.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He said, you know, but as far as the heart goes, you're good.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You're not going to die of a heart attack.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You may, you know, whatever else you got going on, it's a different doctor.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You got to talk, but my heart's good, to the court.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And my heart goes out to, you know, all those guys that mentioned, but do yourself a favor, man, free of your loved ones.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, for yourself, for your kids, go get a CT scan, get your heart check, make sure that you're in good shape because the heart disease is in silent killer.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You think you're okay until you're not.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, and just a special shout-out to my good friend,
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[SPEAKER_02]: He was a friend of mine.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I met back in Japan, Dwayne, met her when she came out here to the States and then came to visit Houston.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: She did some drops for Dwayne's Waysie.
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[SPEAKER_03]: No one has ever said my name the way she had.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I absolutely made her.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Said some Japanese sprinkled in with the real Dwayne's Waysie.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You lost her battle with leukemia.
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[SPEAKER_02]: earlier in the year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Super cool, Jake, man, uh, I was, when I first met her, I was with that little, that little folly and, uh, and last white, last archer, I just I'm, and we all got such a kick out of her because she spoke English, English, with, with, uh,
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[SPEAKER_02]: Because she was from Karatsu and Fukuoka.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So she spoke her Japanese, which I wasn't sophisticated enough to know, she was like a country girl.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So my boy Tokyo Hero, she was hanging out with us one time I was getting tatted up and Tokyo Hero was like, he said, yeah, when when she talks, she talks like, how you say in America, like a redneck.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, man, you said you said to me, man, come on.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, she was right there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: She was there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: She's talking like a redneck.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Because, you know, heroes from this from Tokyo, he's from the city, he's a city boy, you know?
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[SPEAKER_02]: But you remember how you used to talk because she loved hip-hop and a lot of her English.
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[SPEAKER_02]: She got for watch a rap videos and she was just the funniest person, she used to be the the point that I got to picture with me, her, Samoa Joe and Loki.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We got to put this up right now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Hang it out at Tokyo for you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: She knew the Nigerians to get the green.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'll be like, of course, she's like, no, she's in this blood there, she's in the cool clubs, she knew everybody, you know, all her home girls from cool and say, I beg you, what'd you do this weekend?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'll be in my home girl, we go to club and you know, you know, so
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[SPEAKER_02]: But her good friend, she told me that she went strong.
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[SPEAKER_02]: She never complained.
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[SPEAKER_02]: She left behind a husband and a beautiful baby girl who sadly won't have any memories of her mom.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But hopefully that fighting spirit, that energy that you Chan had will manifest itself in her baby girl.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, this was a tough episode, man, you know, just talking about loss, you know, the people that have left us, and
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not a spiritual person.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't believe in the afterlife.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't believe in deity.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's not on belief.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So there's no way there's no comfort for me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There's no solace where I can go to my deity and pray and feel better.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I don't believe in an afterlife.
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[SPEAKER_03]: How do you handle all this?
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[SPEAKER_03]: This is a lot of once for, you know, you're just, you are but one man.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Man, you know what, dude?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Therapy has helped me a lot, man.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, therapy has been huge for me, um, because, and I don't do, do we talk about this?
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[SPEAKER_02]: We talk about my, my journey in therapy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Have we talked about it?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So let's, let's do it again.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, do I, the readest digest version?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I had a, um, um,
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm, I'm out of my time, you know, you deal with, you know, you don't complain, you don't cry, you don't, you don't talk it out, you, you deal with it, you know, and I was abused as a child, you know, physically abused, sexually abused, I had, you know, got beat up a lot, you know.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then, you know, it was in the streets and, you know, gunplay violence moves some of the best Frankish gotten killed at 15th, the amount of dirt, you know?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Can you take that?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, then that's 16 went to prison for 10 years.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, that's, that's, I grew up in prison.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I went, you know, from being a teenager to a man in prison.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And, uh,
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[SPEAKER_02]: funny because we have a mental health counselor, Chris Manzione, at AEW, and I talked to him one day and I just kind of gave him an overview of my life because I was dealing with anxiety.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We don't have anxiety in the hood.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You better not talk to the talk.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Black people don't talk about anxiety, you know, like panic attack.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, wrong, what you work at your own.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And Chris Manzione said that we all have a reservoir for trauma.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And like a damn,
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[SPEAKER_02]: if you don't release some of that water, that water's gonna find a way to get out.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's gonna start coming through.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And he said that some of the anxiety that I was experiencing, the few times that I had these panic attacks on a flight, that I never experienced before.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I thought I was having a heart attack.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I was like, what's going on?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I can't breathe type.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That compartmentalized trauma that we as strong manly men, we just put away.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But if you don't confront it, if you don't deal with it, it's going to come out and he said to me, he said, you my friend have a 50-year reservoir, oh my god, I'm a pill.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So for that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That was my foreign therapy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's when I started going at therapy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And you have talked about it, to have somebody to talk to, to have a trained professional that can help you deal with feelings and issues.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And you've got the guys that are like, therapy, therapy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Because you scared to deal with your
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[SPEAKER_02]: You can't just continue to part compartmentalize stuff and put it on a shelf because eventually, that's gonna come to the surface.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And it's okay, it's okay to go and get help.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's okay to talk to somebody.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's okay because sometimes people snap, because they don't deal with it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They just, they get builds up.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But coming from you, you know, like,
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[SPEAKER_03]: A lot of people's superheroes, especially mine coming up.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You've speaking to this and about the subject, you know, that's going to be very helpful for us.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Why did that talk about it?
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, it's, it's, hey, man.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, we should link that to, right here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's okay to talk.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And for me, I have a therapist that I've been going to now and where, once upon a time, I wouldn't talk about these things.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I wouldn't talk about how I felt.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I wouldn't talk about, I just package it up, put internalize it, put it on a shelf.
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[SPEAKER_02]: and keep moving forward.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And that's not healthy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, for years, you know, the my friends in this industry, outside the industry, that have died some violently, tragically.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He
just, uh, take a sip.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Where's your glass to him?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Keep him moving, you know?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you got to do that, but you also got to deal with that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, one way or the other.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, dealing with this loss, man.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, it's, uh, my therapist is, you know, helped me out and just to talk about it to express how you feel, um,
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[SPEAKER_02]: They'll be in a dad, mortality hits different when you got kids, you know, and just thinking about my little dude without, you know, in a world without me, and without my being able to guide him to, you know, like, he just turned 12, his superhero, you know, so I want to, I want to see him into adulthood, you know, so, um, confronting the loss, but embracing it,
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[SPEAKER_03]: Right, right now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The day we're born, we're the clock is running.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, first period starts.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, I didn't want to talk about periods again.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, because, you know, I take death a lot better than most, because I've dealt with death so much through my life.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And it's, when somebody dies and it's the natural order of things, you know, well, somebody does tragically, you know, car accident, somebody is shot and an overdose, it's like,
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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, but I've been dealing with it by talking about it by, you know, therapy and and it's helped me because, you know, I used to not talk about it, you know, just, I'm a manly man, you know, yeah, it's okay man, it's okay if, you could talk about it and it's okay to cry.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So you could you could do that too?
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, okay, man, it's funny, man, I saw some guy on some clip talking about, don't know about a care about your feelings.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, you know, man, you'll be around here crying, like, Well, I've seen Mike Tyson cry several times.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And we know, you're going to tell him he's in the crowd about his feelings.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, you can tell you, you know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_02]: That man's a savage, you know, like, so that's how I deal with it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I say too, man, again, coming back to it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, we can just call this episode like health and wellness and take care of yourself.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Take time for your mental health, your physical health because we go, go, go.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You're a worker, you're working 60 hours a week on your regular job and another 20 hours a week 50.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Doing this and we neglect ourselves.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And we forget, well, next week, you know, take the time
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[SPEAKER_02]: You can do that doctor's appointment.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Get a full checkup.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Get your blood work done.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Check on yourself.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Take that mental health break.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Go walk on the beach.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, no, right, go go breathe.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, something I like to do?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I like to sit outside and look up in the sky.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm a stargaze.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I got the apple muffler.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I got the apple.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I can tell you what stars and I do it so much now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I can just point that Saturn right there and oh, that's Jupiter.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, that's Mars Milky Way.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There's the Milky Way.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you know, and it's relaxing for me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, you got to find what works for you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And this helps, but not too much, not too much.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're greasy, they're greasy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But uh, yeah, then take care of yourself.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Male female, well, I mostly male audience, but you know, we got females out there watching like, hope.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, what's up, hope?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Take care yourself.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I hope actually it just had some help stuff going on.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So we want to wish all as well with you, hope, and thank you very much for being a loss supported to the show.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And finally, I'm probably most importantly, take a minute to tell those people around me that you care about, that you love them.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Let them know, take a minute, reach out.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Sometimes we get caught up, but now I've got to give someone a sore call.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I've got to get a man.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I've got to catch up with someone so do it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then you get some bad news and you you never made that call.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Was it a Gerard Springer used to say, take care of yourself and each other, and how you used to end the episode.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And yeah, that's uh, so I got for this one.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's kind of melancholy, huh?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: What a great talk, you know?
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was me, it, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Need to speak.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I hope it did something for you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I hope it helped you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This was like a therapy session for me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Ha ha ha.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, tell the people you care about it, you love them.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Go get, go get a checkup, go get your blood work done.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Go get a CT scan, get your heart checked,
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[SPEAKER_01]: pack the butcher and the sign got see a space cowboy
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