Full Transcript for Mold, Longevity, And Creating A Healthy Home

reduce inflammation and eat gluten-free before the holidays, whatever your goals are, you could tell them and they will adjust the menu to meet your goals and your preferences. 00:02:22.960 --> 00:02:26.639 And we love the work that they do, the services they offer, and we know that you will too. 00:02:26.719 --> 00:02:33.520 So again, head on over to tiny spoonchef.com/slash gather for$100 off your first week. 00:02:33.680 --> 00:02:41.919 And as we are talking about the holidays, guys, I am so um aware that I am Wesley's memory maker. 00:02:42.159 --> 00:02:44.800 Isn't that so sweet when you think about the kids in your life? 00:02:44.960 --> 00:02:53.039 And now that we are, you know, gosh, it's just hit me recently that I am officially an adult, but that we are the adults creating the memories. 00:02:53.360 --> 00:02:57.759 And I love encouraging creativity, especially around the holidays. 00:02:57.919 --> 00:03:03.199 Well, Creative Crayons Workshop helps me to create these memories in every gathering that we host. 00:03:03.360 --> 00:03:15.599 And for Thanksgiving, we have a Thanksgiving coloring tablecloth that we are going to be putting on the table for Wesley and the other kids and the adults that love to be creative to sit at the table together and to create. 00:03:15.759 --> 00:03:30.000 If you are looking for a way to introduce creativity and encourage people to naturally come together at your holiday gatherings, head on over to creative crayonsworkshop.com and order a themed holiday coloring tablecloth. 00:03:30.159 --> 00:03:31.199 You will not regret it. 00:03:31.439 --> 00:03:37.199 Hi, I'm Katie, a hospitality educator and the host of Making Room by Gather podcast. 00:03:37.439 --> 00:03:41.759 I am set to see our communities get back to the table through hospitality. 00:03:42.000 --> 00:03:43.919 But it wasn't always this way. 00:03:44.159 --> 00:03:48.639 My husband and I moved to Thailand, and through it, I experienced some loneliness. 00:03:48.800 --> 00:03:54.400 And with it, I was given a choice to sit back and accept it or to do something about it. 00:03:54.560 --> 00:03:56.560 And for me, that meant two things. 00:03:56.719 --> 00:04:03.360 That I needed the healing to learn how to accept an invitation and the confidence to know how to accept one. 00:04:03.599 --> 00:04:08.639 Through this process, I developed some of the richest and deepest relationships of my life. 00:04:08.800 --> 00:04:16.959 Through making room by gather, you will hear conversations from myself and experts in the areas of food, design, and relationships. 00:04:17.199 --> 00:04:20.480 You see, there are countless things trying to keep us from the table. 00:04:20.639 --> 00:04:22.000 But can I tell you something? 00:04:22.240 --> 00:04:24.399 Take a seat because you are ready. 00:04:24.639 --> 00:04:25.759 You are capable. 00:04:26.079 --> 00:04:27.759 You are a good host. 00:04:32.319 --> 00:04:33.360 Welcome, welcome. 00:04:33.519 --> 00:04:34.959 I

am so glad that you're here. 00:04:35.040 --> 00:04:37.680 I wanted to tell listeners before we dive in. 00:04:37.839 --> 00:04:38.800 Oh, that's better. 00:04:38.959 --> 00:04:48.800 Um, this conversation doesn't necessarily fall into our three main categories, but the reason I'm so passionate about it is because we are going to be talking um a bit about molds. 00:04:49.040 --> 00:04:56.079 I've shared some of our mold story with our past rental and just how that ties into home and just the atmosphere that we create. 00:04:56.160 --> 00:05:04.160 Um and then just also health is something that I'm really passionate um about in this season as we're kind of like growing our family and learning about our own health. 00:05:04.240 --> 00:05:06.720 And I know that there's so many questions in culture. 00:05:06.800 --> 00:05:08.240 And so I think it's very relevant. 00:05:08.319 --> 00:05:10.160 And so I'm so happy to have you here. 00:05:10.480 --> 00:05:12.079 Oh, thank you so much for having me. 00:05:12.160 --> 00:05:13.519 I love everything you're doing. 00:05:13.680 --> 00:05:16.959 It's it all does fit, it fits together perfectly for me. 00:05:17.279 --> 00:05:18.800 Yeah, it's holistic, right? 00:05:18.879 --> 00:05:21.120 I mean, you can't consider one without the other. 00:05:21.360 --> 00:05:21.680 Yeah. 00:05:22.319 --> 00:05:32.720 And it's it's yeah, the health of your home, the health of your relationships is integral to your personal physiology and your happiness. 00:05:33.279 --> 00:05:37.439 I feel like people are more receptive to that conversation now almost more than ever. 00:05:37.519 --> 00:05:38.560 Are you feeling that? 00:05:38.879 --> 00:05:39.600 Absolutely. 00:05:39.759 --> 00:05:42.720 Like it's it's happening everywhere organically. 00:05:43.600 --> 00:05:45.040 Yeah, that's a good way of putting it. 00:05:45.199 --> 00:05:48.319 Well, I want to start um by hearing a little bit about your story. 00:05:48.480 --> 00:06:01.839 So I find that people who are in the natural medicine world or like, you know, non-toxic people are familiar with that term, um, like the non-toxic space, um, have a specific turning point that launched them into the career or the lifestyle. 00:06:01.920 --> 00:06:03.120 What's your story? 00:06:03.680 --> 00:06:04.879 You're so right. 00:06:05.839 --> 00:06:12.079 Um, if you had told my 18-year-old self that this is where I'd be now, I would have been like, what are you talking about? 00:06:12.160 --> 00:06:13.360 I'm not doing that. 00:06:13.920 --> 00:06:20.160 Um, so I had this amazing career as a chemical engineer working for IBM. 00:06:20.319 --> 00:06:32.720 I was so happy and I was climbing the corporate ladder, I was getting promoted, getting to do really amazing things like get the toxic chemicals out of our manufacturing processes and leading teams to do that. 00:06:32.959 --> 00:06:38.240 And then all of a sudden, I went on vacation, I came back, and I was so sick. 00:06:38.399 --> 00:06:45.040 Like I went from doctor to doctor to doctor, and nobody could help me figure out what was wrong or how to get better. 00:06:45.279 --> 00:06:51.439 And so that's when I just really started researching for myself and I was my own little mini experiment. 00:06:51.600 --> 00:06:56.399 I tried everything that came across my path that really made sense to me. 00:06:56.560 --> 00:07:00.319 So I saw a natural path, a nutritionist. 00:07:00.480 --> 00:07:04.560 I read books on what to eat and how to cook and tried different diets. 00:07:04.720 --> 00:07:10.079 I tried all kinds of supplements and um started meditating, all kinds of things. 00:07:10.160 --> 00:07:13.279 And I finally pieced together what I needed to do to be healthy. 00:07:13.439 --> 00:07:17.040 And it got me so inspired about the human body. 00:07:17.199 --> 00:07:23.199 Like it is so magical when it's not being overwhelmed by things and it has everything it needs to heal. 00:07:23.439 --> 00:07:27.600 You can heal from almost everything with that kind of approach. 00:07:27.759 --> 00:07:37.120 And so I really I literally woke up in the middle of the night and a disinh decision had been made to go to medical school at 32. 00:07:37.600 --> 00:07:39.360 So massive. 00:07:40.000 --> 00:07:40.399 I know. 00:07:40.879 --> 00:07:47.600 And I had uh this will kind of tie into some of the conversation today, but I had already experienced some issues with infertility. 00:07:47.839 --> 00:07:59.600 So, you know, it wasn't really a well-thought out thing because I didn't, I didn't wasn't making the decision thinking I might not get to have kids if I went down this path. 00:07:59.759 --> 00:08:08.560 So I'm really lucky that I got to have my children in medicine medical school and residency, even though I had had some run-ins with infertility. 00:08:09.040 --> 00:08:22.879 And my body really has been my best teacher and and shown me that we can really practice medicine differently because I started back on um, so when I finished residency, I had a one-year-old and a five-year-old. 00:08:23.120 --> 00:08:26.560 And I know I needed to do additional training. 00:08:26.720 --> 00:08:28.720 Yeah, you're in the midst of it with a two-year-old, right? 00:08:29.519 --> 00:08:31.279 I know how demanding all of that is. 00:08:31.439 --> 00:08:34.240 So I knew I need to do additional training. 00:08:34.320 --> 00:08:50.240 I wanted the MD as the base for how I was gonna care for people, but I knew I needed to learn more about nutrition and um applied systems biology and integrative medicine, but I I was tired and I had two little kids. 00:08:50.320 --> 00:08:55.600 So I went into traditional practice where it was not what I wanted to do, but I still was really enjoying it. 00:08:55.679 --> 00:09:02.799 Like I started, I my practice got really busy, but within like five minutes of seeing each patient, I knew what prescription I was gonna write. 00:09:02.879 --> 00:09:08.720 And like I was in that

model that I really didn't feel was truly gonna help people. 00:09:08.879 --> 00:09:12.320 So fortunately, I developed a couple of autoimmune disorders. 00:09:12.399 --> 00:09:21.519 I got Shogren syndrome so badly that I couldn't wear my contacts anymore, and I had to be chewing gum or have a mint in my mouth to even be able to have conversations. 00:09:22.159 --> 00:09:26.080 And so when that happened, it got me to find my path to functional medicine. 00:09:26.159 --> 00:09:30.639 It was right about the time that functional medicine was on the um on the map. 00:09:30.799 --> 00:09:42.960 And so I could do that additional training and then switch over into the medicine that I really wanted to practice, where I got to spend time with my patients and help them identify the root cause and really build their bodies back. 00:09:43.679 --> 00:09:48.480 Man, so much of what um you just said, we're gonna dive into more in this conversation. 00:09:48.559 --> 00:09:52.559 But I love that you said your body, how do you word it, your body was your best teacher? 00:09:52.879 --> 00:09:55.279 I kind of laugh because I'm a kinesthetic learner. 00:09:55.360 --> 00:10:02.879 I think it's why I liked chemical engineering, is because you get the principles and then you'd get to apply it and see how it worked, what didn't work, how things fit together. 00:10:03.039 --> 00:10:16.559 And the same thing with healing the body, it's like I get if I can experience for myself that I can totally reverse autoimmune diseases, I can hold that space for my patients to know that they can totally heal too. 00:10:16.879 --> 00:10:24.960 That's what I, you know, I've said it a few times on this show, but when I was the biggest like questioner of like anything natural, I questioned everything. 00:10:25.200 --> 00:10:27.919 I um had a lot of like strong opinions against it. 00:10:28.080 --> 00:10:33.039 And it wasn't until I started to try and see the changes that I'm like, oh my goodness. 00:10:33.200 --> 00:10:37.919 Like when it when it's personal, um, it changes your whole outlook, your whole approach. 00:10:38.080 --> 00:10:41.919 And so that's my encouragement to people like don't don't knock it till you try it. 00:10:42.159 --> 00:10:48.960 It's worth it's worth giving whatever you're questioning a season just to see the transformation that it could have. 00:10:49.120 --> 00:10:50.240 So um on your health. 00:10:50.960 --> 00:10:58.080 That's so great to hear that you've had that experience too, where you can find solutions to actually help you heal. 00:10:58.480 --> 00:10:58.799 Yeah. 00:10:58.960 --> 00:11:08.720 And, you know, I think it's even more powerful, like my part of the story, I still have so much more to learn that, you know, I I was really like reluctant to try a lot of it. 00:11:08.799 --> 00:11:16.240 And I had very, you know, if you knew me in my like high school, early college years, I had very strong things against like natural cleaners or things like that.

00:11:16.399 --> 00:11:18.799 Um, and now I'm the total opposite. 00:11:19.120 --> 00:11:22.879 Um total, total transformation. 00:11:24.240 --> 00:11:25.919 It is, it is, yeah. 00:11:26.159 --> 00:11:33.600 Um, well, I want to start by talking to people who might be in a season of we'll call them like unexplained symptoms. 00:11:33.840 --> 00:11:40.559 I think when people hear functional medicine, natural medicine, um, this is usually where their journey starts, right? 00:11:40.720 --> 00:11:48.399 They've they've they've tried every other, you know, primary care, whatever physician, and they're like, we don't have any more answers for you. 00:11:48.559 --> 00:11:50.720 Um, and that's when it gets them curious. 00:11:50.879 --> 00:11:51.919 Would you agree? 00:11:52.240 --> 00:11:53.200 Absolutely. 00:11:53.440 --> 00:12:11.679 I mean, I think it's such a part of our culture, uh, the way that medicine is now, that, you know, to go to the doctor, get an antibiotic or get a heartburn medicine or cholesterol medicine, and just and to not even be having the conversation about, well, wait, why was I having those headaches? 00:12:11.919 --> 00:12:13.279 Why was I having that heartburn? 00:12:13.360 --> 00:12:14.559 Why is my cholesterol high? 00:12:14.720 --> 00:12:16.720 Is high cholesterol actually even a problem? 00:12:16.960 --> 00:12:21.600 So that it's not part of our culture to dig in and ask the questions. 00:12:21.759 --> 00:12:29.279 We I mean, you know, back when I was initially going through my health things, I just thought the doctor was going to tell me what to do. 00:12:29.360 --> 00:12:33.120 And uh, and then that ended my part of the responsibility. 00:12:33.440 --> 00:12:39.200 And as far as getting better until I was like, wait, these band-aids aren't working. 00:12:39.840 --> 00:12:41.519 This doesn't explain my symptoms. 00:12:41.679 --> 00:12:58.559 So um, what's really exciting and what's happened um, you know, in the last 30 years is our technology for digging deeper into the biochemistry and physiology and really looking more deeply and understanding some of these concepts has been exponential. 00:12:58.720 --> 00:13:13.919 Like we can, even, you know, compared to when I finished medical school in 1999, the things available to be able to look at, I mean, technology has just gone leaps and bounds, but it just hasn't been implemented into our traditional allopathic model. 00:13:14.960 --> 00:13:17.519 Um, I actually am so glad that you just said that. 00:13:17.679 --> 00:13:18.720 Why do you think that is? 00:13:18.879 --> 00:13:27.919 Because I think a lot of people, I don't think they're wrong to think this, but they think the doctors are just up to date on all the new research, all the new findings, all the new technology. 00:13:28.080 --> 00:13:29.279 We assume that. 00:13:29.519 --> 00:13:34.080 And so is it really something that's up to the provider to stay current on? 00:13:34.799 --> 00:13:35.679 Absolutely. 00:13:35.919

--> 00:13:46.159 And unfortunately, what's happening now is um uh there's uh uh practice uh guidelines. 00:13:46.639 --> 00:13:52.799 Like they're you're it almost takes the thinking out of the whole process for doctors. 00:13:52.879 --> 00:14:02.320 So they're not actually even being able to be encouraged to think they're just being told, like, okay, somebody's got a headache, you ask these questions. 00:14:02.559 --> 00:14:09.440 If they ask this way, then you do these tests, if you ask answer this way, then do you know this process. 00:14:09.600 --> 00:14:35.919 So it's gotten so algorithmic rather than the art of medicine and really uh using your intuition and paying attention to the subtle symptoms, the stories that the patients tell you, like so often in their story about what's led up to this point in their life, you can glean so much that's so helpful for understanding where things have gone up course. 00:14:36.240 --> 00:14:40.399 And they don't have the doctors don't have time to even listen to those stories. 00:14:41.039 --> 00:14:41.519 Wow. 00:14:41.840 --> 00:14:50.720 Man, that's a powerful um visual or like just like a uh the realistic side of like what's actually happening, you know. 00:14:50.799 --> 00:14:58.000 So we went, I go to a kind of more functional um practitioner for Wesley's pediatrician, and I'm so thankful that we do. 00:14:58.240 --> 00:15:09.600 And going off of what you just said about story, um, I went to like his two-year visit and I was like, oh, you know, his eating patterns have changed, you know, in this way and he's kind of itching, whatever. 00:15:09.759 --> 00:15:11.440 And I was like, Do you think it's a parasite? 00:15:11.519 --> 00:15:12.720 And she had listened to my story. 00:15:12.799 --> 00:15:17.200 We had just moved, and she was like, It sounds more like a stress response to me. 00:15:17.279 --> 00:15:19.840 And I'm like, man, I'm so glad you picked up on that. 00:15:20.000 --> 00:15:23.840 Um, and there, you know, it was a whole conversation and we went into it in depth. 00:15:23.919 --> 00:15:27.919 But I was like, wow, I'm so, I don't know, I'm thankful that you you picked up on that. 00:15:28.000 --> 00:15:33.519 Cause for a little guy, of course, who's not using his words and talking about everything, um, it makes sense. 00:15:33.679 --> 00:15:36.559 So the power of story and medicine is important. 00:15:36.960 --> 00:15:47.440 And I think it's it's important for us to change our view of health to not, we're not all um gonna follow the same medical trajectory or like health trajectory, right? 00:15:47.600 --> 00:15:53.679 Like we're not all going to tolerate the same foods or things like that, which I think culture believes, right? 00:15:53.840 --> 00:15:59.600 Like we all should be able to eat these cheeses and not have a stomachache afterwards. 00:15:59.759 --> 00:16:04.559 Like that's not it's not how medicine or bioindividual what's that term? 00:16:04.639 --> 00:16:05.360 Bioindividuality. 00:16:05.600 --> 00:16:06.960 Bioindividuality, right? 00:16:07.120 --> 00:16:18.799 Yeah, you know, you can have 10 people with similar stories come in and um as far as what their symptoms are and what they're dealing with, and it's gonna be 10 different solutions. 00:16:18.960 --> 00:16:34.720 Like by the time we really optimize how to get rid of the migraine headaches or whatever it is that we're addressing, I mean it's the that's the beauty of what I get to do is to really tune in to each patient and see what's gonna be the optimal path for them. 00:16:35.120 --> 00:16:35.519 Wow. 00:16:35.759 --> 00:16:36.240 Wow. 00:16:36.480 --> 00:16:39.039 Um, well, I wanna, I got ahead of myself. 00:16:39.200 --> 00:16:52.879 So to someone who might be listening today thinking, okay, I've been told this, I have unexplained symptoms, the doctors have kind of like reached the end of their um, I guess, advice for me, um, what what are possible next steps? 00:16:52.960 --> 00:16:55.039 What would you say to someone in that that boat? 00:16:55.360 --> 00:17:06.400 Um I I would say don't, even if you have a diagnosis and you don't like the um the medications or whatever the treatment plan is that you're being offered. 00:17:06.640 --> 00:17:14.640 So if you have any sense that your body isn't running optimally, find a provider to partner with you. 00:17:14.880 --> 00:17:34.799 So I my preference is an MD that has a functional medicine background and is actually certified in functional medicine, because that just means they've done the deeper um research and training to be able to really know what the options are in their toolbox to uh help you get to where you know you need to go. 00:17:34.960 --> 00:17:48.480 And so um you know, some of these really hard things like Parkinson's dementia ALS um can can often have answers. 00:17:48.880 --> 00:17:59.680 And so even the really, really hard things, I recommend that people find somebody to help them figure out why their body's gone off course and then help them to get back. 00:17:59.920 --> 00:18:03.119 So, you know, I know you've had a mold run in. 00:18:03.200 --> 00:18:11.599 Well, when when we um look at some of these symptoms, even autism and um autoimmunity, we have to look at the environment. 00:18:11.759 --> 00:18:15.759 So mold is such a trigger for things like autism. 00:18:16.160 --> 00:18:21.920 There's other things going on in addition to that, but it's often uh the tipping point or cancer. 00:18:22.000 --> 00:18:28.160 There's such an association with toxic mold exposure in the environment and cancer and dementia. 00:18:28.640 --> 00:18:41.599 Like if somebody is having a memory issue, we can't just chalk it up to, oh, you have an ApoE4 gene, because there are lots of people with ApoE4 genes that never get dementia, never get heart disease. 00:18:41.759 --> 00:18:46.480 So it's genes, meat, environment, meat, nutrition, meat, microbiome. 00:18:46.960 --> 00:18:55.440 And a lot of

times when we look and see what's actually going on with people, we can prioritize some some more holistic solutions. 00:18:56.240 --> 00:19:05.759 I'm so glad that you um said, and correct me if I'm saying this wrong, but like to look for a practitioner that's um, did you say certified or has a degree in functional health? 00:19:06.720 --> 00:19:10.480 So like I'm board certified in internal medicine. 00:19:10.559 --> 00:19:14.400 So that's you know, primary care, hospital care for adults. 00:19:14.559 --> 00:19:22.000 Um, so in addition to that, certification, which just means I've jumped through the extra hoops of taking tests to show competency. 00:19:22.880 --> 00:19:30.400 And so then the functional medicine also has one of those tests that you can become certified in functional medicine. 00:19:30.880 --> 00:19:32.240 How would someone find that? 00:19:32.400 --> 00:19:35.839 Like what does that look like on a website if people are filtering through? 00:19:36.319 --> 00:19:38.160 It's Institute for Functional Medicine. 00:19:38.240 --> 00:19:40.480 I think it's IFM.org. 00:19:40.799 --> 00:19:41.119 Okay. 00:19:42.079 --> 00:19:42.559 That's great. 00:19:42.640 --> 00:19:43.599 That's very helpful. 00:19:43.839 --> 00:19:48.079 You know, so when we were looking for care for Wesley, we'd started at a practice. 00:19:48.160 --> 00:19:49.920 I think I will call it, yeah, a practice. 00:19:50.160 --> 00:19:52.000 And I something just didn't sit right. 00:19:52.240 --> 00:19:54.720 And um, I realized that they weren't certified. 00:19:55.279 --> 00:20:05.680 Um and I'm sure they're one like they were wonderful people and they provided like really good care, but we did find another practitioner that um was certified, and the care just feels so different. 00:20:05.839 --> 00:20:12.960 Um yeah, yeah, it just felt a little bit more um, I don't want to say grounded, but well-rounded, maybe. 00:20:13.119 --> 00:20:13.279 Yeah. 00:20:13.839 --> 00:20:14.240 That's good. 00:20:14.400 --> 00:20:28.319 And it is engaged, it's especially with the pediatricians, it's so good to interview a few people and see who you can feel most comfortable with because there's so many times with kids you're like, am I making the right decision for my kid? 00:20:28.559 --> 00:20:36.480 And and having somebody that you feel confident that you can actually ask the questions and get answers that are going to help you to make good decisions is everything. 00:20:36.880 --> 00:20:40.960 And I'm thankful for all the schooling that you guys put in because that's more work, right? 00:20:41.039 --> 00:20:43.359 It's more years, isn't it? 00:20:43.519 --> 00:20:44.319 On your end. 00:20:44.720 --> 00:20:46.240 It's um, it it is. 00:20:46.400 --> 00:20:50.720 It's um well, and I I love your you're you're a continuous learner, right? 00:20:50.799 --> 00:20:51.599 You love contestants. 00:20:51.920 --> 00:20:53.680 That's always how you do this. 00:20:53.920 --> 00:20:58.640 I think that's part of it for me too, is this field of functional medicine. 00:20:58.799 --> 00:21:09.839 I every week I look for new studies that are in the areas that I'm particularly interested in because there's so much amazing research that's getting done every day. 00:21:10.079 --> 00:21:12.640 And I love to be up on it. 00:21:13.119 --> 00:21:13.519 Wow. 00:21:13.680 --> 00:21:14.799 Are you taking new clients? 00:21:14.960 --> 00:21:16.640 I'm sure everyone's wondering at this point. 00:21:17.039 --> 00:21:18.000 Yes, I am. 00:21:18.160 --> 00:21:18.799 Yes, I am. 00:21:20.319 --> 00:21:29.599 The whole goal is to get people better, get them, you know, the first six to 12 months can be a little intensive depending on what they have going on and even optimizing. 00:21:29.680 --> 00:21:34.319 But after that, then we can go to like every six months to a year and just keep fine-tuning things. 00:21:34.480 --> 00:21:47.279 So the initial start of the process with me is probably a little bit intense because we there's laps that we want to collect and and learn about their body, and it takes a little bit of iter iteration. 00:21:47.759 --> 00:21:48.799 Yeah, it's good. 00:21:49.039 --> 00:21:53.519 Well, to close off this one question, so people that are like, listen, I've had unexplained symptoms. 00:21:53.599 --> 00:22:05.359 I feel like what I hear more often than not is like stomach stuff or gut gut experiences, like people say, like digestion, and I'm, you know, we hear IBS and all the you know, all of these kind of like hot words. 00:22:05.680 --> 00:22:05.920 Yeah. 00:22:06.240 --> 00:22:10.079 I guess it's just a garbage diagnosis that means nothing. 00:22:10.240 --> 00:22:14.960 So actually, actually talk to that for a second because I know that, but other people might not. 00:22:15.119 --> 00:22:18.559 So it's it's kind of like not a cop-out. 00:22:18.799 --> 00:22:21.519 It's it is it is right, yeah. 00:22:21.599 --> 00:22:22.160 Okay, okay. 00:22:22.240 --> 00:22:23.200 It's fair for me to say that. 00:22:23.359 --> 00:22:23.519 Yeah. 00:22:23.759 --> 00:22:24.000 Yeah. 00:22:24.160 --> 00:22:31.920 And so in the traditional medical model, a lot of times, you know, they'll rule out that you have cancer or something like that. 00:22:32.000 --> 00:22:43.359 So you might get scoped uh endoscopy going from the top and a colonoscopy coming from the bottom, you know, check at some basic labs like make sure your liver is okay, your blood cancer okay, things like that. 00:22:43.599 --> 00:22:47.839 But it's just like flying over in an airplane and seeing what's going on in the trees. 00:22:48.000 --> 00:22:50.240 It's kind of it's not very detailed. 00:22:50.480 --> 00:22:58.240 So, what we do in in functional medicine is we collect more data to see what's going on with the microbiome. 00:22:58.559 --> 00:23:04.319 So, do you have an imbalance of the good flora and overgrowth of some bad bacteria? 00:23:04.480 --> 00:23:07.519 Do you have a

low-grade yeast infection or a hidden parasite? 00:23:07.680 --> 00:23:09.839 Are you making digestive enzymes? 00:23:10.480 --> 00:23:11.680 Do you have high histamine? 00:23:11.839 --> 00:23:15.519 We're seeing an epidemic of high histamine since COVID. 00:23:15.759 --> 00:23:28.079 So we look at like, okay, well, why are you having these symptoms and then work on reversing it rather than just um band-aiding it with um something for constipation or bloat. 00:23:29.440 --> 00:23:29.759 Wow. 00:23:29.920 --> 00:23:30.799 Wow, wow, wow. 00:23:30.880 --> 00:23:36.960 Well, I feel like I could sit here for a very long time diving into all the it's so fun, right? 00:23:37.599 --> 00:23:38.640 It's so fun. 00:23:38.880 --> 00:23:39.279 Yeah. 00:23:39.519 --> 00:23:42.000 I think honestly, it just it's empowering. 00:23:42.400 --> 00:23:45.200 And um I love when things are empowering. 00:23:45.440 --> 00:23:49.920 I think at the beginning it could seem overwhelming, kind of like you were saying, like it could feel a little bit intense. 00:23:50.079 --> 00:23:52.720 It's different, it's a different model for a lot of us. 00:23:53.039 --> 00:23:57.039 But I feel like this time in culture right now, we're relearning a lot. 00:23:58.319 --> 00:24:05.279 And and when you start to feel healthier, even if it's in layers, it I don't know, the way it changes your life, it's worth it. 00:24:06.079 --> 00:24:09.119 Um, and so anything that has that kind of effect on it. 00:24:09.599 --> 00:24:13.279 I really feel like it changes the trajectory of your health. 00:24:13.599 --> 00:24:34.720 So rather than just band-aiding the migraines or the um PMS or the digestive complaints, when we actually heal them, it changes the trajectory for your longer-term health and longevity because those things take a wear and they they're wearing tear on the body that we don't need. 00:24:34.799 --> 00:24:40.720 Like it can totally um feel great, I think, into your 80s and 90s. 00:24:41.200 --> 00:24:45.440 So you just brought up um three letters that I wasn't gonna bring up, PMS. 00:24:46.400 --> 00:24:53.440 But I'm glad you did because along with IBS, um, people are like, oh, this is just the female experience. 00:24:53.599 --> 00:25:05.039 I didn't tell you we were gonna talk about this, but what would you say optimal health or like an optimal monthly cycle would look like if someone was operating in just like full health? 00:25:05.440 --> 00:25:12.880 Well, and back to the first statement on there's a lot of biochemical individuality. 00:25:12.960 --> 00:25:18.000 So what's normal for one person might not be normal for the other, like even in the length of the cycle, right? 00:25:18.160 --> 00:25:23.759 So some people might tend more towards a 25, 26-day cycle and still ovulate just fine. 00:25:24.000 --> 00:25:28.960 And other people might be 35, 38 and still be ovulating. 00:25:29.200 --> 00:25:34.319 So there's um it's more like what's consistent and what's normal for you. 00:25:34.720 --> 00:25:46.079 But you know, serious cramping, uh, serious mood shifts, serious um uh uh blood loss shows that there's some imbalances going on. 00:25:46.240 --> 00:25:56.880 So sometimes we can correct those just by reducing inflammation in the body, by changing the diet, taking some supplements to help uh to soothe inflammation, or looking for the root causes. 00:25:57.039 --> 00:26:11.680 Like sometimes there is um a low-grade infection someplace in the body, like a chronic fungal infection in the gut that doesn't cause any specific symptoms, but is there just kind of driving the immune system to be off? 00:26:11.839 --> 00:26:17.599 So a lot of times by working with some supplements, a little bit of testing, we can get things all balanced out. 00:26:18.079 --> 00:26:18.960 Isn't it sad? 00:26:19.119 --> 00:26:42.240 I mean, I it's not sad, it's kind of like what we've learned as a culture, but we go through the monthly cycle, you just keep adding medications, adding all of these like heat pads and lotions, and like you just add on, and it becomes so expensive and this huge layered routine, and it's like, man, we really can get to the source and change this experiment or experience, right? 00:26:42.480 --> 00:26:44.960 Um yeah, it's important to learn about. 00:26:45.039 --> 00:26:47.119 I'm glad the conversations are happening. 00:26:47.359 --> 00:26:53.119 Well, um, I want to switch just for a second to talk about um mildew and molds. 00:26:53.519 --> 00:26:58.480 I guess my first question is how common is this in our living living environments? 00:26:58.880 --> 00:27:12.079 Yeah, there's been some really interesting conversations in my life lately because um I bet uh there's some attorneys that are really trying to change what's happening in the building industry. 00:27:12.480 --> 00:27:28.480 So um there is work going on on this, but around the time that uh in the 70s and 80s, where they started changing the building code to build tight homes for energy conservation, they changed the whole way that homes have been built for 100 years. 00:27:28.640 --> 00:27:35.839 Um the building materials changed, the whole um HVAC system situation started to be different. 00:27:36.079 --> 00:27:45.599 So it unfortunately the code in most states and our country are not um the right things to have healthy homes. 00:27:45.920 --> 00:27:50.799 And they don't breathe and they don't um release the toxins. 00:27:50.960 --> 00:27:58.240 So if there is a mold problem, instead of things kind of dissipating a little bit, they actually build up in the in the home. 00:27:58.400 --> 00:28:01.279 So the problem with mold isn't the spores usually. 00:28:01.440 --> 00:28:12.480 Like, yeah, it's a hassle to have the allergy asthma things, but it's the toxins that the mold, some of the mold makes that actually are poisoning us. 00:28:12.640 --> 00:28:31.839 And so now with the way that buildings are being built, it's almost like there's a mold smoke factory

in the walls or behind the shower or along the chimney that are um making chemicals that are have been studied for things like biological warfare. 00:28:32.240 --> 00:28:36.240 They are made into drugs to do things like immunosuppression. 00:28:36.319 --> 00:28:43.519 There's one in particular, mycophenolic acid, that's given to people who have had an organ transplant so they don't reject their organs. 00:28:43.680 --> 00:28:50.160 So they massive that particular substance massively uh compromises the immune system. 00:28:50.240 --> 00:28:53.680 And you don't so you're it's like you're getting a drug and you don't even know it. 00:28:53.839 --> 00:28:57.680 And then there are some of these mycotoxins that disrupt hormones. 00:28:58.160 --> 00:29:01.519 So they they can be the root cause of the PMS. 00:29:02.720 --> 00:29:03.039 Wow. 00:29:03.759 --> 00:29:04.319 Wow. 00:29:04.720 --> 00:29:11.839 So um without going like too deep into it, so we were living in a very charming older home. 00:29:12.000 --> 00:29:13.599 It was like a hundred years old, I think. 00:29:13.680 --> 00:29:22.079 And we started to just like smell mildew and then started to see mold, and then then you know, people would come over and smell it. 00:29:22.160 --> 00:29:25.599 Like we just got so used to it, but they would smell it in the environment. 00:29:25.759 --> 00:29:30.319 And then so unfortunately weren't we weren't able to make a quick move. 00:29:30.400 --> 00:29:32.480 So there was a lot of temporary fixes. 00:29:32.720 --> 00:29:38.880 But if someone finds themselves in a situation like this, what are ways to care for your health? 00:29:39.039 --> 00:29:43.680 Or would you say something as bold as like leave now, no matter what the situation looks like? 00:29:43.839 --> 00:29:45.599 Like, how would how would you approach that? 00:29:45.680 --> 00:29:48.559 I think it's I think it's an important conversation all around. 00:29:48.799 --> 00:29:53.519 It's such an important conversation, and it's one that I have almost every day, unfortunately. 00:29:54.400 --> 00:29:54.720 Wow. 00:29:54.880 --> 00:30:05.359 Um, so it's I I just have to be Very frank with my, you know, what I see happening for people. 00:30:05.440 --> 00:30:16.160 Like it can be the trigger for autism or cancer, or for like me, when I I had to do the kinesthetic learning around mold, I had ALS like symptoms. 00:30:16.240 --> 00:30:18.960 So like I couldn't have held this cup without dropping it. 00:30:19.119 --> 00:30:28.079 I got my um, especially my right arm got so weak, my hair was falling out, I had pain in my body, um totally exhausted. 00:30:28.160 --> 00:30:36.240 Like I got super, super sick and I um thought I was dying because it was so bad. 00:30:36.319 --> 00:30:44.559 And um so like I prefer that people find a solution before things get that bad. 00:30:44.960 --> 00:30:51.200 You know, before they get the cancer, Alzheimer's, the autism or autoimmunity diagnoses. 00:30:51.680 --> 00:30:53.839 So but I know it's hard. 00:30:54.559 --> 00:30:57.920 Like I know it's really, really challenging to make those decisions. 00:30:58.160 --> 00:31:08.400 And you know, sometimes, especially for people that are um in a partnership, one partner might be more affected than the other, and it's kind of invisible, right? 00:31:08.720 --> 00:31:16.319 So it can be really, really hard on relationships and very complex financially to navigate. 00:31:16.640 --> 00:31:25.359 My preference is to find a place that you can be once you realize that there's a problem as soon as possible. 00:31:26.160 --> 00:31:33.599 Like, you know, go I've had people go stay with friends, I've had people like the worst case scenario was set up a tent. 00:31:33.759 --> 00:31:41.680 Um I've had people get RVs to move into, and it really just was dictated by how ill they were. 00:31:41.839 --> 00:31:47.839 I my preference is to do it as soon as possible and not wait until somebody's super ill. 00:31:48.799 --> 00:31:55.440 Um but I, you know, I have I probably still have a little trauma over it for myself. 00:31:55.759 --> 00:32:02.480 So you have to kind of factor that in when I'm um talking about it, but I've just seen so many people so ill. 00:32:02.559 --> 00:32:10.960 And one of the most important things to get better and to not, you know, get yourself in a much worse situation is to get in a clean environment. 00:32:11.200 --> 00:32:28.960 So um, you know, like when I had my ALS type run in, I was so fortunate at that my mom, my parents welcomed me into their house for a few months until I could start to get my body healing and figure out where I could be with my kids. 00:32:29.200 --> 00:32:31.279 So um not everybody has that. 00:32:31.440 --> 00:32:41.359 I realize like I was just so fortunate to to have that situation where I did have a clean environment that I could go to and then sort out what to do with my things and where to go. 00:32:41.519 --> 00:32:54.240 Um, but what I find is that most of the time when you just kind of put it out there to to God, the universe, the my spiritual side here, yeah, there's a path, there's a path. 00:32:54.559 --> 00:32:57.119 And you just have to be open to receiving it. 00:32:57.759 --> 00:32:58.160 Yeah. 00:32:58.319 --> 00:32:58.799 Yeah. 00:32:59.119 --> 00:33:02.640 That really I shared um like our miracle house story. 00:33:02.799 --> 00:33:08.480 Uh I had gotten to a point where I was like, I really, I really brought it before the Lord and I was like, God, we can't keep doing this. 00:33:08.559 --> 00:33:10.799 Like, I don't know what our options are with this molt. 00:33:10.960 --> 00:33:17.519 And our house, it it wasn't an overnight people know our story, but I remember at that breaking point, God was like, okay, here's a way out. 00:33:17.599 --> 00:33:20.000 Here's this brand, it's a literally a new build. 00:33:20.079 --> 00:33:24.480 There's no no mold in the in you know any crevice of it at this point.

00:33:24.640 --> 00:33:25.839 But um, it's true. 00:33:25.920 --> 00:33:31.920 Yeah, you have to activate your community, you have to, you know, bring it to prayer, all of those things. 00:33:32.000 --> 00:33:32.960 It's so important. 00:33:33.200 --> 00:33:34.960 Um, but I want to talk just for a second. 00:33:36.079 --> 00:33:38.160 People want to help if you give them the opportunity. 00:33:39.359 --> 00:33:39.680 Yeah. 00:33:40.079 --> 00:33:40.640 It's true. 00:33:40.799 --> 00:33:41.440 It's true. 00:33:41.680 --> 00:33:48.880 That is the beauty of community and one of the ways that um yeah, the community can show up in your life in a season. 00:33:49.039 --> 00:33:55.839 Um, I want to talk to the people though, maybe like us that stayed in an environment with molds longer than we probably should have. 00:33:56.079 --> 00:34:00.480 What are ways to either rest like restore or detoxify? 00:34:00.640 --> 00:34:02.160 Like, how do you approach that? 00:34:04.160 --> 00:34:16.960 So the main thing is that our detoxification pathways are very complex, but there are a few key things that really help to open up the spigots and let the toxins out. 00:34:17.199 --> 00:34:20.559 So the things that I really love are liposomal glutathione. 00:34:21.199 --> 00:34:29.599 Um, so the liposomal form of glutathione, I think, is the best because you actually absorb it and it gets into your cells where we want it to go. 00:34:29.920 --> 00:34:35.280 And then um, there's so much information on my website on this, the Anchip EMD. 00:34:35.360 --> 00:34:37.440 We've got so many blogs and resources. 00:34:37.599 --> 00:34:47.599 There's actually a mold page on there to um with like, okay, you had a leak, you painted over it, you want to know was is there actually mold behind that wall without having to open it up? 00:34:47.760 --> 00:34:52.880 There's um references for test kits and how to test yourself for mycotoxins. 00:34:52.960 --> 00:34:53.760 There's so much information. 00:34:53.840 --> 00:34:59.360 I think it's ANCHIP EMD forward slash mold.com forward slash mold. 00:34:59.599 --> 00:35:05.440 And um, because I just want people that have like have the resources that I think they need. 00:35:05.599 --> 00:35:07.840 Um, liver support is super helpful. 00:35:07.920 --> 00:35:21.039 And then one of the ongoing themes that I've seen, especially when I get to test my patients, is that these toxins poison the mitochondria, the little organelles inside the cell that help you to make energy and poison the cell membranes. 00:35:21.199 --> 00:35:23.519 So something called phosphatidylcholine. 00:35:24.079 --> 00:35:37.119 It's um, I think we even have on YouTube, we have a I did my desert island supplements and explained phosphatidylcholine, but it just helps your body to start to do that repair at a really important cellular level. 00:35:37.280 --> 00:36:02.159 And then things that support mitochondrial health, um, like mito Q is a special form of CoQ10, and then with regular CoQ10 or PQQ to help fuel the mitochondria, something called NAD, carnitine, derribose, like there's a lot of things that, especially when you're super sick, can make a huge difference towards the making the healing process happen very quickly. 00:36:02.480 --> 00:36:06.079 Man, um, everything that you just referenced, are those like capsule form? 00:36:06.559 --> 00:36:08.239 Some are capsule, some are liquid. 00:36:08.400 --> 00:36:10.880 So I do take care of some children. 00:36:11.039 --> 00:36:21.920 Um, so and then there's even a like a liposomal glutathione that I really love called glutaryl that you can use more easily on kids, but there's also the liquids for the kids. 00:36:22.239 --> 00:36:22.639 Wow. 00:36:22.880 --> 00:36:23.519 Wow. 00:36:23.760 --> 00:36:27.280 Um, I wanted to ask another um clarifying question. 00:36:27.360 --> 00:36:33.039 So when you know we're talking about leaving an environment that might have molds, going to you called it like a clean environment. 00:36:33.280 --> 00:36:36.159 Um, do you test like your new environments? 00:36:36.480 --> 00:36:36.719 Okay. 00:36:36.880 --> 00:36:38.800 So what is test, what does testing look like? 00:36:38.960 --> 00:36:43.119 Because, you know, I was even saying the space we're in right now, I assume it's clean. 00:36:43.280 --> 00:36:45.039 Like, you know, I assume there's no molds. 00:36:45.599 --> 00:36:47.599 But um, talk to us about that. 00:36:47.920 --> 00:37:01.360 Yeah, unfortunately, new builds are really tricky in a lot of places, especially here in Texas, where the building quality just it's you build a house differently in Texas than you do, like in Colorado, where they're expecting a bunch of snow, right? 00:37:01.519 --> 00:37:05.840 Um they cut corners and don't pay as much attention to flashings and things. 00:37:06.079 --> 00:37:10.719 So um, the best way to test a house is with the dust test. 00:37:11.039 --> 00:37:16.880 Um, because some of the really bad molds like chetomium and stachybratris don't send out very many spores. 00:37:16.960 --> 00:37:21.119 And so if you don't just happen to test in exactly the right place, you're gonna miss it. 00:37:21.280 --> 00:37:29.599 So the little mycotoxins flowed in the air and the um um so and move to other places. 00:37:29.679 --> 00:37:32.800 But what I really like people to do is get a composite dust test. 00:37:32.880 --> 00:37:48.079 So getting as much dust as you can by going over the floorboards and door jams and any place that hasn't been dusted recently, get as much dust as you can and send it off to um thedustest.com or enviro biomix. 00:37:49.440 --> 00:37:49.760 Okay. 00:37:50.239 --> 00:37:52.559 And I can help you with links for the show notes. 00:37:52.960 --> 00:37:53.599 Happy to help you. 00:37:53.840 --> 00:37:54.239 Yeah, yeah. 00:37:54.480 --> 00:37:56.960 I'm like taking notes and I'm also like, wait, how do you spell that? 00:37:57.119 --> 00:38:00.320 Dust test I can handle

the some of the supplements I can't spell. 00:38:01.599 --> 00:38:06.719 It's it's all on my website under the in the mold blogs and things too. 00:38:06.880 --> 00:38:07.199 Okay. 00:38:07.519 --> 00:38:16.559 You know, I'm giving you kind of an overview, but for people that are really looking for answers on mold, or they, you know, as they're listening to the conversation, they're curious. 00:38:16.639 --> 00:38:33.119 Oh, why my um my memory's not as good as it was, or I'm starting to have some issues with autoimmunity or whatever their like little subconscious nudges are, it's definitely a worthwhile thing to to look at because most of the time the mold is hidden. 00:38:33.280 --> 00:38:44.559 You know, it's behind the shower, it's along the wind windows where it's not getting wet enough to show through the paint, but enough to cause mold in the drywall. 00:38:44.639 --> 00:38:46.719 It's those kinds of situations that are hidden. 00:38:46.880 --> 00:39:00.320 So, like if I had my way, we all do a dust test on our homes and offices, and gosh, the schools are crazy every six months and just make sure if there's something brewing that we catch it right away so we can fix it. 00:39:00.400 --> 00:39:08.239 Because what ends up happening is by delaying it, a lot of times you it's harder and harder to actually remediate to fix. 00:39:08.480 --> 00:39:09.039 Wow. 00:39:09.519 --> 00:39:23.280 I remember growing up, you know, having a few people in my life that were very aware of these types of conversations and environmental things, but because it wasn't as like it wasn't as commonly talked about, it was like, oh, that person, you know, concerned about the mold or that person. 00:39:23.519 --> 00:39:34.000 And I'm just I'm just so thankful for, you know, platforms like yours and um just conversations and culture because man, I don't know, it's time. 00:39:34.800 --> 00:39:40.159 It's time to really get curious and intentional about a lot of these environmental factors. 00:39:40.480 --> 00:39:45.599 Yeah, I mean, I think a lot of it is because of what we're seeing around us, right? 00:39:45.760 --> 00:39:50.639 Like we're um COVID just really showed how sick Americans are. 00:39:50.800 --> 00:40:00.159 Our country did so bad from a standpoint of um the morbidity and mortality from from COVID compared to other countries. 00:40:00.239 --> 00:40:05.440 So we can see it where we're getting sicker and sicker, our kids are getting sicker and sicker. 00:40:05.679 --> 00:40:07.280 So it's unacceptable. 00:40:07.440 --> 00:40:09.199 We have to change this trajectory. 00:40:09.360 --> 00:40:21.360 And and um, the big elephant in the room are the environmental toxins that we're we keep dumping into our water and our air and our home environments. 00:40:21.840 --> 00:40:22.480 Wow. 00:40:23.199 --> 00:40:28.159 Um again, this is like a passion, I am a topic, I'm very passionate about all of it. 00:40:28.239 --> 00:40:30.639 So I'm like, man, how deep do I go into all of this stuff? 00:40:30.880 --> 00:40:47.840 But another conversation um is okay, so when I'm at someone's house or even like, you know, somewhere where we're living or staying, we travel a lot, and I'm drinking tap water and I taste maybe a little bit of a metallic taste. 00:40:48.239 --> 00:40:50.400 How aware of that do we need to be? 00:40:50.559 --> 00:40:54.639 Like what I I guess talk to us about tap water. 00:40:54.719 --> 00:40:57.519 Like, should I be someone bringing my own jugs of water? 00:40:57.679 --> 00:41:00.320 Like, like what should what should our approach be? 00:41:01.039 --> 00:41:06.400 That's such a great question because that I've my thinking has changed on this recently. 00:41:07.840 --> 00:41:11.199 Yeah, no, it's really quite uh something. 00:41:11.360 --> 00:41:14.960 There's so much more data on what's happening with the tap water now. 00:41:15.199 --> 00:41:33.760 So if you go and have if you just go have dinner with somebody or at a restaurant and it happens once in a while, and you're doing the things that help your body to detoxify, you're taking some liposomal glutathione and a little bit of binders here and there, uh, just to keep up with being in the world, no big deal. 00:41:33.920 --> 00:41:34.960 Enjoy your dinner. 00:41:35.119 --> 00:41:46.000 If you're going to stay at somebody's house for a week and they don't have any type of filtration, I I would um I would try to filter it somehow. 00:41:46.239 --> 00:41:52.159 If you're um so the big thing is though, the this whole plastic conversation. 00:41:52.559 --> 00:42:05.280 Like I I try not to drink water out of plastic bottles anymore because of this, what what I see with my patients and when we measure their um plastics, it's elevated. 00:42:05.360 --> 00:42:11.679 If they're drinking out of plastic or you know, doing a lot of takeout, I pretty much quit doing takeout. 00:42:11.840 --> 00:42:25.440 If I'm gonna have restaurant food, I try to go and eat that at the restaurant because most of the food packaging is going to leach into the food because it's hot or cold and um you're gonna get a little dose of plastic. 00:42:25.679 --> 00:42:29.679 So I do like if I'm I travel a lot too. 00:42:29.760 --> 00:42:41.360 And so if I'm in the airport and I haven't brought a water bottle to the kit, um in Austin's airport, we have a there's there is a little filter station that you can fill up your water bottle. 00:42:41.440 --> 00:42:45.760 But if I haven't gotten all together, I, you know, I have to stay hydrated when I travel. 00:42:45.840 --> 00:42:47.360 I get dehydrated easily. 00:42:47.599 --> 00:42:51.360 So I'll go ahead and have the bottled water in the airport. 00:42:51.519 --> 00:42:56.000 But then when I get to my destination, I try to have some water and glass delivered. 00:42:56.400 --> 00:42:56.800 Wow. 00:42:56.960 --> 00:42:57.840 Wow, wow. 00:42:58.079 --> 00:42:58.800 It's good. 00:42:59.119 --> 00:43:01.440 Man, so many it's a lot of

work. 00:43:01.760 --> 00:43:13.519 It is a lot, but there's a lot more um like solutions now or like options for people to kind of like yeah, to be to be able to be intentional, like easier. 00:43:13.760 --> 00:43:20.719 Um, yeah, like some of these kits that are more readily available or um just different models that are available to us. 00:43:20.800 --> 00:43:24.559 All of those things just give us options um that are important. 00:43:24.719 --> 00:43:28.400 Well, I want to switch and talk about the topic of longevity a little bit. 00:43:28.480 --> 00:43:33.840 And this is something that I got curious about with the um the launch of the show, the blue zones. 00:43:33.920 --> 00:43:35.440 You know, did you watch that? 00:43:35.840 --> 00:43:36.960 I did see some of that. 00:43:37.760 --> 00:43:38.079 Okay. 00:43:38.480 --> 00:43:53.920 And um, I haven't deep dived into any of like the research or those areas, but I I love like cross-cultural, I love culture, and so I love just learning that different habits um they believe kind of contributed to longer, longer life. 00:43:54.000 --> 00:44:02.960 And I was like, man, I'm really not making any intentional choices in my daily life with that in mind, but I should be, and I would like to be. 00:44:03.119 --> 00:44:13.039 And so I guess for those of us that are curious about longevity or um are realizing that we're not uh giving it enough thought, I took that a few different ways. 00:44:13.280 --> 00:44:14.960 What would you say is a good place to start? 00:44:15.119 --> 00:44:26.480 Like I think we're so focused on quick fixes, like I want to lose weight now, I want to fix my hair, hair growth now, but we don't think about like the second half of our life. 00:44:26.559 --> 00:44:28.079 So what would you what would you say to that? 00:44:28.159 --> 00:44:29.679 You could really take that any direction. 00:44:30.000 --> 00:44:31.599 Oh yeah, I love this question. 00:44:31.840 --> 00:44:37.519 So um I yeah, it's health jevity. 00:44:37.679 --> 00:44:45.599 Like, how do we the point of being here if I not just have longevity, but we want to have health for a long time. 00:44:45.679 --> 00:44:54.960 And I'm so fortunate because I have um my mother and I have a couple of aunts that have definitely have had health jevity. 00:44:55.039 --> 00:45:08.000 So my mom's 94, and my um, my 88-year-old aunt, you know, it she has done these long bike rides in her 80s, like 35 miles or more. 00:45:08.079 --> 00:45:11.599 And she's gone on these um, you know, multi-day hikes. 00:45:11.679 --> 00:45:17.519 And so she just doesn't see any limitations for her physical body and just keeps active. 00:45:17.679 --> 00:45:25.360 So I would say find somebody in your life to kind of give you that pulse rather than, oh, you're gonna decline as you age. 00:45:25.599 --> 00:45:29.920 Like my mom still plays bridge and wins at 94. 00:45:30.400 --> 00:45:30.960 I love it. 00:45:31.039 --> 00:45:31.440 Yeah. 00:45:31.760 --> 00:45:36.639 And she makes sure she gets her 3,000 steps in and she has her spinach for breakfast. 00:45:36.800 --> 00:45:40.800 And, you know, it's just her thinking. 00:45:40.880 --> 00:45:42.320 So that's where I would start. 00:45:42.480 --> 00:45:56.400 But then depending on where you want to go with how to ensure your health devity, some of these tests that I see tests that I do to look for the root causes for these complex chronic illnesses can be helpful for longevity. 00:45:56.719 --> 00:45:59.280 So let's make sure your microbiome is tuned up. 00:46:00.239 --> 00:46:05.280 Those organisms have such a tremendous impact on it on the trajectory of health. 00:46:05.440 --> 00:46:08.639 Make sure your mitochondria are working really well. 00:46:08.880 --> 00:46:13.440 We can look for marker, really super detailed levels for inflammation. 00:46:13.599 --> 00:46:18.159 So if we find those, then we know we have a little bit of detective work to do in advance. 00:46:18.639 --> 00:46:24.800 It turns out that autoimmune diseases, there's evidence of them years before they actually turn into a disease. 00:46:24.880 --> 00:46:26.639 So I like to screen for those. 00:46:26.800 --> 00:46:29.599 And then we can look at some epigenetic markers. 00:46:29.679 --> 00:46:36.400 So, like how are your genes getting upregulated and down to predict that health jevity? 00:46:36.559 --> 00:46:38.480 We can look at the length of your telomere. 00:46:38.719 --> 00:46:46.800 So the little strands that help the DNA operate, like unwind and wind to do their job, those tend to shorten with the age. 00:46:46.960 --> 00:46:51.679 But it turns out we can often help them to lengthen just doing our work. 00:46:51.840 --> 00:47:02.320 So there's so much we can do to change that trajectory so that, you know, that you're actually enjoying your life and feeling good into your later years. 00:47:02.559 --> 00:47:08.079 One story I love to tell, if you'll indulge me a little bit, was Yeah, of course, a woman, 85. 00:47:08.400 --> 00:47:12.880 Her grandson had seen me, and so he really wanted his grandmother to come in. 00:47:13.039 --> 00:47:20.239 She was having a lot of pain in her body, and she wasn't able to um, you know, bend over, pick things up. 00:47:20.400 --> 00:47:22.960 So she was kind of limited in her movement. 00:47:23.039 --> 00:47:28.960 She was feeling like her memory wasn't getting um, you know, it's in the wrong trajectory. 00:47:29.199 --> 00:47:30.559 So we did the process. 00:47:30.639 --> 00:47:42.320 We collected the data to see what was happening with her, and she was great about implementing all the things, you know, changing her diet, taking the summons, the movement, the meditation. 00:47:42.559 --> 00:47:47.119 The last time she was in the office, I dropped something and she picked it up before I did. 00:47:47.280 --> 00:47:51.840 She has no more pain in her body, and she feels like her memory is great. 00:47:52.000 --> 00:47:54.559 Like she's back

to winning it, bridge. 00:47:54.880 --> 00:48:02.159 So I this idea that we are in this negative trajectory and there's nothing we can do about it. 00:48:02.239 --> 00:48:04.159 It's just entropy. 00:48:05.119 --> 00:48:05.760 Yeah, yeah. 00:48:05.920 --> 00:48:06.079 Yeah. 00:48:06.400 --> 00:48:13.760 I think there's so much more we can do to um feel great most days, even as we age. 00:48:14.159 --> 00:48:16.559 That's an important narrative for us to adopt. 00:48:16.639 --> 00:48:22.960 Uh, you know, I think that we are so focused on like, you know, skincare to look more youthful today. 00:48:23.039 --> 00:48:37.280 And it's like, well, what, you know, what if we in addition to like the health care practice, you know, the health um, I don't know, our routines, you know, our daily routines, we're also considering these longevity ha habits. 00:48:37.440 --> 00:48:38.800 Would you call them rituals? 00:48:38.960 --> 00:48:49.760 Or you know, I I'm too actually doing that too is thinking about them as being more rituals because it makes it more enjoyable. 00:48:50.159 --> 00:48:50.480 Yes. 00:48:50.639 --> 00:48:53.920 Okay, yeah, you know, I and feeling the gratitude about it, right? 00:48:54.000 --> 00:48:58.880 I'm so lucky that I know the things to take to help my body be strong. 00:48:59.039 --> 00:49:11.039 Um, I've done this some really extensive genetic tests that I know what nutrients are the the biggest priority for me to kind of bad bypass some of those um genetics. 00:49:11.199 --> 00:49:16.880 And so how lucky am I to to get to know what to do to help my body to be strong? 00:49:17.199 --> 00:49:17.599 Wow. 00:49:17.840 --> 00:49:18.320 Wow. 00:49:19.360 --> 00:49:20.480 I love all that testing. 00:49:20.559 --> 00:49:21.920 I'm like, sign me up. 00:49:22.400 --> 00:49:23.599 Come on, I do it. 00:49:24.320 --> 00:49:25.440 I do, I love it. 00:49:25.599 --> 00:49:26.320 I love it. 00:49:26.480 --> 00:49:28.000 Um, I have a quick question for you. 00:49:28.159 --> 00:49:43.920 And I don't know, you could take this to whatever extent you're comfortable like answering, but you know, a lot of people when they hear about like functional medicine and more, you know, new approaches to health, um, often think of like a price tag, like insurance is not covering certain things. 00:49:44.079 --> 00:49:47.280 Or what would you what would you say to those people? 00:49:47.440 --> 00:49:50.480 Are there unique avenues that you would encourage them to explore? 00:49:50.559 --> 00:49:54.159 Or would you say this is worth the second job for the sake of your health? 00:49:54.320 --> 00:49:57.920 Like, how should we how should we approach that side of the conversation? 00:49:58.239 --> 00:50:01.440 Yeah, I think it's all about priorities, right? 00:50:01.599 --> 00:50:04.800 Like where do we put the resources that we do have? 00:50:05.119 --> 00:50:24.800 And I guess for um those of us that aren't in inside the insurance model, so that we really have the

leeway to spend the time with our patients and um to practice medicine the way that we want to, not to be handcuffed by the um insurance companies, um, it definitely is an investment. 00:50:25.280 --> 00:50:31.760 The um there are some functional medicine practitioners that have figured out how to make it in the insurance model. 00:50:31.840 --> 00:50:39.760 It's just it's very hard because they still have to, you know, have a lot of patients every day to cover their overhead. 00:50:39.920 --> 00:50:53.760 Um, but you can find that, but then when you look at the cost of being ill, when you look at the cost of not feeling good, like feeling like you're declining, it it's um it's just a different perspective on where the resources go. 00:50:53.920 --> 00:50:59.039 And you know, when I started uh working for IBM, the insurance model was different. 00:50:59.199 --> 00:51:08.320 Like we they um IBM was self-insured and not going through insurance company, and they covered 80% of our medical expenses. 00:51:08.480 --> 00:51:18.480 So we had, you know, which was great at the time, like it was awesome because um other insurance companies didn't have that level of coverage. 00:51:18.719 --> 00:51:22.719 And um, but it gave you some skin in the game, right? 00:51:23.039 --> 00:51:28.480 Like it it caused you to think about, okay, well, my I don't want to pay that 20. 00:51:28.719 --> 00:51:32.400 I don't I don't want to have the medical expenses because it's not gonna be covered. 00:51:32.480 --> 00:51:37.440 And so how do I um mitigate getting sick myself? 00:51:37.679 --> 00:51:42.320 So you know, we do have we've got this culture that's a little off, right? 00:51:42.480 --> 00:51:48.639 Where I think pretty much everybody now knows that this whole idea that red wine is good for you is wrong. 00:51:48.880 --> 00:52:05.519 Um alcohol is not good for you, and yeah, we still continue to drink it, and um, you know, the number of people vaping, and uh um, and I think there's there's some conversations to be had around the TC weed situation. 00:52:05.599 --> 00:52:11.760 Like I think there's a lot of evidence to show that maybe that's not so great on a regular basis either. 00:52:11.920 --> 00:52:20.480 Like that can for men can lower testosterone, and um, I think it's a bit of a hormone disruptor for women's women as well, and it's toxic. 00:52:20.559 --> 00:52:28.400 Like most of the, even if you're getting it through a prescription, I think there's a lot of microtoxins and pesticides in those substances. 00:52:28.639 --> 00:52:33.840 So um I guess I'm off on a little bit of a tangent, but no, I I believe I'm following. 00:52:34.000 --> 00:52:34.800 Yeah, I'm following. 00:52:36.159 --> 00:52:42.320 Really being conscientious about what we're putting in our body and in our environment. 00:52:42.639 --> 00:52:43.039 Yeah. 00:52:43.280 --> 00:52:43.840 It's good. 00:52:43.920 --> 00:52:51.840 No, I think the priority thing is an important, it's an important um

aspect of life for us to all consider. 00:52:51.920 --> 00:53:00.239 I mean, continuously, how we're spending our money and where, you know, where our money's going and um just different like yeah, time and financial priorities. 00:53:00.480 --> 00:53:07.519 And, you know, even if it's just a season of reshifting, you know, for the sake of diving into a health, an area of health, right? 00:53:07.599 --> 00:53:09.920 Like it yeah, yeah. 00:53:10.079 --> 00:53:12.719 We um prevention is hard, right? 00:53:12.960 --> 00:53:23.119 Because if you actually feel pretty good, then it's harder to get yourself to prioritize the resources if you're actually really sick. 00:53:23.199 --> 00:53:24.559 It's a little easier. 00:53:24.800 --> 00:53:32.800 Um, but I've loved working with different I've worked with different um would you call yourself a practitioner, like or a doctor? 00:53:32.880 --> 00:53:34.639 I mean, what would you refer to yourself as? 00:53:34.960 --> 00:53:35.760 I'm a doctor, yeah. 00:53:36.239 --> 00:53:39.440 So there are people that do functional medicine that are not doctors. 00:53:39.599 --> 00:53:46.719 They just have done that training and they've layered it on their expertise, the pharmacist, the acupuncturist, the chiropractor. 00:53:47.360 --> 00:53:49.679 Um, so it's great. 00:53:49.840 --> 00:53:54.239 But I've worked with some like doctors or practitioners that I've you know been transparent with up front. 00:53:54.320 --> 00:53:57.119 Like, this is my budget, this is what we're able to spend in this season. 00:53:57.280 --> 00:53:59.039 Like, can you help me to prioritize? 00:53:59.199 --> 00:54:02.159 And so I want people to know that that's an option too. 00:54:02.320 --> 00:54:08.079 Um, there it's not gonna be a you have to go like all in with all these tests that we're talking about or nothing. 00:54:08.239 --> 00:54:09.679 Like there is, right? 00:54:09.840 --> 00:54:11.840 Would you say that that's true in your experience? 00:54:12.320 --> 00:54:12.719 Absolutely. 00:54:12.960 --> 00:54:13.599 And right. 00:54:13.679 --> 00:54:16.639 So I'll have some people come in and and do exactly that. 00:54:16.800 --> 00:54:17.599 This is my budget. 00:54:17.760 --> 00:54:25.199 What would you prioritize based on this budget, which is great because then I know where they are and know what to prioritize for them. 00:54:25.360 --> 00:54:32.880 And then other people will come in and say, okay, I've gone through this big health crisis, or I see this trajectory, family history in my family. 00:54:33.039 --> 00:54:40.320 So I'm willing to prioritize whatever resources we need to to get the data you need to help me. 00:54:40.480 --> 00:54:42.719 So it's that fulls full spectrum. 00:54:42.800 --> 00:54:45.840 And I really appreciate meeting people where they are. 00:54:46.159 --> 00:54:47.039 Yeah, it's good. 00:54:47.119 --> 00:54:54.880 I like including that as part of the conversation because I know that there is a huge range that people are, you know, different backgrounds that people are listening from. 00:54:55.039 --> 00:54:59.119 So um I want to and there's also a time frame with it too. 00:54:59.199 --> 00:55:01.920 Like some people are like, I want to do everything right now. 00:55:02.079 --> 00:55:06.639 And then there are other people that are like, let's let's put my toe in, let's get started. 00:55:06.800 --> 00:55:11.440 And then no, it's gonna be a longer journey together. 00:55:11.760 --> 00:55:12.079 Okay. 00:55:12.320 --> 00:55:13.360 Yeah, it's good. 00:55:13.519 --> 00:55:14.559 It's good, it's good. 00:55:14.800 --> 00:55:21.280 Well, um, just looking at the time a little bit, I want, I don't want to, I don't want to forget this part. 00:55:21.440 --> 00:55:23.760 We are celebrating the release of your latest book. 00:55:23.920 --> 00:55:25.440 Can you remind me the launch date? 00:55:25.519 --> 00:55:26.400 Has it launched? 00:55:26.559 --> 00:55:27.119 It's coming out. 00:55:27.920 --> 00:55:30.320 November 18th, but it's for pre-sale. 00:55:30.400 --> 00:55:32.800 It's everywhere that you can buy books pretty much. 00:55:33.360 --> 00:55:34.639 Okay, so exciting. 00:55:34.800 --> 00:55:37.280 Um, the preconception revolution. 00:55:37.599 --> 00:55:42.800 I I'd love to hear in your own words why was it important to you to release this book specifically? 00:55:43.039 --> 00:55:51.840 When I so I I received an advanced copy, this I looked at the size of it first and I was like, man, this took a lot of time. 00:55:52.000 --> 00:55:56.079 I just respect the amount of work that went behind a book that big. 00:55:56.320 --> 00:55:58.320 So you're clearly passionate about it. 00:55:58.400 --> 00:56:00.480 So talk to us about why this was so important. 00:56:02.079 --> 00:56:05.440 It's really what I wish I had before I had my kids. 00:56:05.599 --> 00:56:07.440 It's what I didn't know to that. 00:56:07.519 --> 00:56:16.559 I really wish I had been able to give them from the health of the, you know, what happens with the egg and the sperm prior to conception and during pregnancy. 00:56:16.800 --> 00:56:20.320 And it's it like I'm so fortunate in my practice. 00:56:20.400 --> 00:56:23.119 So a lot of times I'll get to see multiple generations. 00:56:23.519 --> 00:56:29.440 I'll get to see the babies, the um um parents and the grandparents. 00:56:29.599 --> 00:56:37.679 So I get this view into humanity and and what it takes to actually have healthy babies that most people don't get. 00:56:37.840 --> 00:56:52.639 And I have a way of thinking, you know, with the chemical engineering background where I like to put the um threads together, the systems together, the threads together, and bring in the latest research to really back up what I see happening with patients. 00:56:52.880 --> 00:57:05.039 So one of my early patients, I had just been in practice for a year or two in the functional medicine side, she came to me and she was 41 and she's like, I heard about

you and I want to have a baby. 00:57:05.280 --> 00:57:07.679 And I think you can help me have a healthy baby. 00:57:07.920 --> 00:57:14.159 And she was so spot on because when we I, you know, a lot of times at 41, you're like, oh my God, I need to get pregnant now, right? 00:57:14.239 --> 00:57:16.000 I might be missing my window. 00:57:16.159 --> 00:57:23.519 But she was so wise to come to me and take the time to do the test because we found that she had some things going on that could have affected the health of the baby. 00:57:23.599 --> 00:57:29.679 She was really high in heavy metals, she wasn't methylening very well, and she had some microbiome things going on. 00:57:29.920 --> 00:57:35.920 So we did our process in less than a year and she got pregnant right away and had a healthy baby. 00:57:36.079 --> 00:57:39.519 So I was like, oh, okay, this actually works right right away. 00:57:39.679 --> 00:57:44.079 And then a couple of years later, I had somebody come who had failed IDF. 00:57:44.239 --> 00:57:51.840 She had um the resources, she'd gone to the East Coast and to the West Coast, tried it a couple times, and nobody would touch her again because she failed. 00:57:51.920 --> 00:57:56.400 And they just said, you know, you you just need to adopt, basically, at the time. 00:57:57.679 --> 00:58:04.079 But she also had heard about me and just like, I I I think I can have a baby. 00:58:04.159 --> 00:58:04.880 I want to try. 00:58:04.960 --> 00:58:07.360 And so now she has four kids. 00:58:07.679 --> 00:58:09.760 She like, we found some things. 00:58:09.920 --> 00:58:15.920 She had some autoimmunity brewing, she um had some issues with her microbiome with some toxins. 00:58:16.079 --> 00:58:19.440 We got her cleaned up and she got pregnant right away. 00:58:19.599 --> 00:58:28.000 And then she wasn't even finished nursing the first one, and they weren't that careful because they're like, Oh, we had had infertility before, and she got pregnant with twins. 00:58:28.239 --> 00:58:28.719 Oh no. 00:58:29.039 --> 00:58:34.639 She ended up in two three, three kids within two years. 00:58:34.800 --> 00:58:35.519 It was a lot. 00:58:36.960 --> 00:58:39.119 And then went on to have a fourth as well. 00:58:39.280 --> 00:58:41.440 So wow, wow, wow. 00:58:41.840 --> 00:58:55.199 I started, I I just learned from my patients that um when the body is in balance, it's and not getting the message that it's not a good time to have a baby, that there are things that we can do. 00:58:55.360 --> 00:59:11.039 And then I started realizing wait with this children's health crisis, where one in 31 children right now that are like, I guess that group would be 10, um, have the diagnosis of autism one in 22 in the state of California. 00:59:11.199 --> 00:59:12.320 That's 10-year-old data. 00:59:12.480 --> 00:59:16.000 We don't even know what the babies being born right now are gonna have. 00:59:16.159 --> 00:59:20.159 And then this uptick in obesity, diabetes, autoimmunity, childhood cancers. 00:59:20.320 --> 00:59:29.280 I was like, wait, this all fits together, like the health of the parents and the epigenetics, how the genes are being expressed, multiple generational. 00:59:29.679 --> 00:59:36.159 There's a huge opportunity here to reverse this children's health crisis even before people get pregnant with their child. 00:59:36.480 --> 00:59:36.800 Wow. 00:59:37.039 --> 00:59:38.800 So who would you say this book is for? 00:59:39.039 --> 00:59:40.800 Everyone thinking about children? 00:59:41.119 --> 00:59:45.599 Anybody who ever wants to have a baby, like or growing a family. 00:59:45.760 --> 00:59:53.199 Like I really think this process is very important between pregnancies, too, to um to get your body optimized. 00:59:53.360 --> 00:59:59.599 Um, because especially after a baby, as you know, the baby takes the nutrients it needs and it can really throw. 01:00:00.079 --> 01:00:01.519 Some things off in your body. 01:00:01.679 --> 01:00:16.239 So we want to do some of the same process to really um augment that um the health and you know re refill the um the nutrients to be able to create a healthy baby. 01:00:16.400 --> 01:00:17.840 But I had this conversation. 01:00:18.000 --> 01:00:26.639 My oldest is 28 now, and he, you know, he's seen me work really hard on this book for two years, and we were out to dinner the other night. 01:00:26.800 --> 01:00:30.719 He's like, you know, mom, I think he's not he doesn't even have a girlfriend right now. 01:00:30.800 --> 01:00:31.840 He's totally single. 01:00:32.079 --> 01:00:41.440 Um, and he's like, Mom, I, you know, I really realize that this is going to be important to my future wife and I um and to my family. 01:00:41.519 --> 01:00:44.400 And I want to go ahead and do some of those tests again. 01:00:44.559 --> 01:00:50.880 We've done them for different reasons when he was younger and see where I am right now because I really want to be protecting my fertility. 01:00:51.119 --> 01:00:53.119 And so I was like, oh, okay. 01:00:53.280 --> 01:01:03.280 Like he's he helped me to think about well, this is really for anybody who knows that they want to have children at at some point to know what they can do to optimize their fertility. 01:01:03.360 --> 01:01:06.000 And um we can include his phone number in the show notes. 01:01:06.079 --> 01:01:07.039 No, I'm kidding. 01:01:07.440 --> 01:01:08.079 Exactly. 01:01:08.320 --> 01:01:26.719 You know, I think I think it's a really beautiful perspective from them from the masculine because a lot of men, when they understand that what they are doing the three, six, twelve months uh before conception can have an impact on the health of the pregnancy, like how healthy is the placenta? 01:01:26.960 --> 01:01:33.519 Are there increased risks for complications like pre-eclampsia and even the health of the future child? 01:01:33.679 --> 01:01:53.280 They're like, oh, I'm happy to, I'm happy to cut out alcohol for three or six

months, or I'm happy to make sure I'm exercising because, oh wait, my gene expression around having muscle and working out can actually impact the health of the child once they start to understand that there's things that they can be doing that are gonna make an impact. 01:01:53.440 --> 01:01:57.840 They're so interested in knowing what those things are and how to do it. 01:01:58.800 --> 01:02:00.480 What an incredible resource to have. 01:02:00.559 --> 01:02:02.480 Thank you for all the work that you put into it. 01:02:02.719 --> 01:02:13.119 We will attach the link in our show notes that everyone could pre-order if you're listening um before that date, or just order wherever books are sold um after November. 01:02:13.360 --> 01:02:22.079 Anything else that you're particularly excited about with the book or anything else that you would want readers or potential readers to know about it? 01:02:23.360 --> 01:02:41.920 I um I want them to know that this conversation that's happening in the media, uh, especially for women and aging, I mean, it's happening now with around the sperm thing too. 01:02:42.239 --> 01:02:48.400 I want them to know that to not get caught up in that conversation that they're gonna need IBF. 01:02:48.639 --> 01:02:58.000 In fact, I think a lot of people can really avoid needing to do any kind of uh reproductive therapies by doing this work. 01:02:58.639 --> 01:03:03.119 So my oldest patient right now is 47. 01:03:03.360 --> 01:03:04.159 She got pregnant. 01:03:04.400 --> 01:03:10.000 We did three months of work and then she got pregnant on the first try and five months. 01:03:10.079 --> 01:03:14.480 So I'm, you know, still like seeing how things are gonna turn out for sure. 01:03:14.639 --> 01:03:15.679 But she feels great. 01:03:15.840 --> 01:03:16.639 She feels so good. 01:03:16.800 --> 01:03:18.800 She got her body really tuned up. 01:03:19.119 --> 01:03:29.039 And um, it's very common for people in their early and mid-40s to be very fertile after doing this process. 01:03:29.360 --> 01:03:35.440 So I I just want people to feel hopeful about this fertility comp uh conversation. 01:03:35.840 --> 01:03:48.719 Same thing as with functional medicine when we look at how we can optimize the physiology and what the body really needs and how to get rid of the things that it doesn't, then you can get really fertile. 01:03:49.280 --> 01:03:49.679 Wow. 01:03:49.840 --> 01:03:51.440 I love conversations of hope. 01:03:51.519 --> 01:03:56.400 That's so important for people listening in so many different um seasons of life. 01:03:56.639 --> 01:03:57.440 So very good. 01:03:57.599 --> 01:04:07.599 We will include that link in our show notes, in addition to all the links to the molds, conversations, and blogs and supplements once I get all the spellings correct. 01:04:08.239 --> 01:04:14.719 Um but we end each of our conversations with the same three questions, and I would love to hear your answers as well. 01:04:14.880 --> 01:04:18.639 Um, the first one is something you have eaten recently and loved. 01:04:20.239 --> 01:04:26.320 That's such a great question because I'm such a foodie, but I have all these food allergies, so I have to avoid gluten and dairy. 01:04:26.400 --> 01:04:30.480 And um, the thing that I loved was it was so sweet. 01:04:30.639 --> 01:04:37.039 It was um my son made a cake for my sister's uh belated birthday. 01:04:37.199 --> 01:04:40.400 We had a little brunch with her and my mother. 01:04:40.719 --> 01:04:47.360 Um, we had missed the uh the actual birthday, and I could taste the love in his cake. 01:04:47.440 --> 01:04:54.639 So he made it gluten-free, dairy-free, you know, made the frosting, the everything out of his love for his aunt. 01:04:54.800 --> 01:04:57.519 Like it was just so sweet, so special. 01:04:57.920 --> 01:05:06.639 Um and and really full circle because a lot of times um my mom or my sister would make his birthday cakes. 01:05:07.440 --> 01:05:16.719 And so for just for him to have that love and care and pour it into the cake for her and just cared how much she loved it was so special. 01:05:17.199 --> 01:05:19.039 Wow, I love that answer. 01:05:19.360 --> 01:05:23.519 How about a gathering you attended that made you feel a strong sense of belonging? 01:05:23.599 --> 01:05:26.880 And if you could pinpoint it, what it was that made you feel that way. 01:05:27.440 --> 01:05:29.599 Oh, another great question. 01:05:29.760 --> 01:05:33.119 Uh, this happened um last week. 01:05:33.360 --> 01:05:37.840 And, you know, it's a really big push right now to get to launch a book. 01:05:37.920 --> 01:05:39.840 So I'm working some kind of long days. 01:05:40.000 --> 01:05:46.960 But I had a friend who had a book come out last week and she flew into Austin to have a book party one night. 01:05:47.199 --> 01:05:49.440 And you know, it started at like 6:30. 01:05:49.599 --> 01:05:53.840 By the time I got there, it was a little after seven because I just couldn't get there any sooner. 01:05:54.079 --> 01:05:56.719 But I felt like I needed to go and support her. 01:05:56.880 --> 01:06:02.480 And but I just kind of expected to make a little quick stop and be there for her and then exit. 01:06:02.719 --> 01:06:07.840 And I got there, she was so excited to see me, even though I was late. 01:06:08.079 --> 01:06:15.599 And then there were a few other people that I hadn't seen in a year or two that had also they flown in for it. 01:06:15.840 --> 01:06:26.559 And I think the thing that made me feel the sense of belonging and the what was so special about the moments was how excited people were to see me. 01:06:26.719 --> 01:06:30.960 Like I was kind of showing up a little tired and like, oh, a little weary. 01:06:31.199 --> 01:06:38.480 And that excitement that they expressed, either, you know, with the warm hugs or the big smiles or the kind words. 01:06:39.360 --> 01:06:42.559 It's like, oh, wait, I thought I was going for my friend. 01:06:42.639 -->

01:06:46.239 And I ended up like just receiving so much love there. 01:06:46.320 --> 01:06:53.599 And so the takeaway for me is um, you know, sometimes we're a little muted in our responses. 01:06:53.760 --> 01:07:02.239 Like we don't want to like be overwhelming to other people with our excitement or you know, try to kind of calibrate to the situation. 01:07:02.480 --> 01:07:11.599 But I think it's this moment, these moments gave me more permission to be more expressive when I when I'm so excited or happy to see people. 01:07:12.320 --> 01:07:13.679 Wow, that's really good. 01:07:13.840 --> 01:07:15.360 I had a similar situation recently. 01:07:15.440 --> 01:07:18.400 I was in Nashville for an event with a community that I love being a part of. 01:07:18.480 --> 01:07:20.000 I only see them a few times a year. 01:07:20.159 --> 01:07:23.039 And I came home and I told my husband almost the same thing. 01:07:23.199 --> 01:07:30.639 I said, it was so refreshing to me, like, you know, the hugs from behind, like, you know, people running down the hallway. 01:07:30.800 --> 01:07:43.440 It's like, you know, it's it is so true to um give ourselves the space to express ourselves in the same way towards other people because um, yeah, it's a memorable experience for sure. 01:07:43.679 --> 01:07:59.679 As as you're describing that, I could see like the childlike excitement coming through in your with your colleagues and friends, like permission to like go back to that point where we didn't have such strong filters and oh wait, am I is this gonna show up right? 01:07:59.760 --> 01:08:02.400 Or what you know, how somebody could have received me. 01:08:02.880 --> 01:08:05.679 But just childhood enthusiasm. 01:08:05.840 --> 01:08:06.559 It's beautiful. 01:08:06.880 --> 01:08:08.400 Definitely, it is beautiful. 01:08:08.559 --> 01:08:08.960 It is. 01:08:09.039 --> 01:08:11.360 I'm so glad we both had that recently. 01:08:12.079 --> 01:08:14.800 And uh last but not least, I feel like y'all have a fun answer. 01:08:14.960 --> 01:08:25.039 Something you've discovered lately that you think everyone should know about, something random like a Netflix show, an Amazon purchase, a supplement, a health, whatever, anything. 01:08:25.439 --> 01:08:26.880 That's a really good one. 01:08:27.279 --> 01:08:27.600 Good. 01:08:27.920 --> 01:08:37.279 So the nerdy researcher side of me has um there's so much data now on um vagus nerve stimulators. 01:08:37.439 --> 01:08:54.000 So the vagus nerve is the nerve that helps you to go into the parasympathetic, the relaxed digest state versus the sympathetic state, the run from the tiger, get stuff done that I think most people have been, especially since COVID, kind of stuck in that sympathetic state. 01:08:54.159 --> 01:09:08.560 So the vagus nerve stimulator really helps you to regulate that back down into more of a balanced state so that you can rest and digest better, but then still go, you know, do your exercise or work on the project or those kinds of things. 01:09:08.720 --> 01:09:11.840 So there's a company that I really love called True Vega. 01:09:13.039 --> 01:09:15.439 Um, so you can buy it online directly. 01:09:15.520 --> 01:09:17.439 You don't need a doctor's prescription. 01:09:17.760 --> 01:09:20.880 And um, it's two to three minutes a day. 01:09:20.960 --> 01:09:24.079 So you can like pretty much everybody can fit it into their routine. 01:09:24.159 --> 01:09:33.439 It's not I love meditation and things like that, but though, you know, that takes time, usually at least 10, 20, 30 minutes to um get the benefits. 01:09:33.680 --> 01:09:44.000 But the vagus nerve stimulator, a lot of times you can even start to feel a difference right away, or definitely within a week or two, and just where your where your stress response is idling. 01:09:44.640 --> 01:09:46.720 Um, what is it, a supplement or a machine? 01:09:47.279 --> 01:09:49.359 Oh, it's a little, so it's like$500. 01:09:49.920 --> 01:10:01.359 Um, and it's a little like little electrodes that you put right on your neck where the vagus nerves runs through, and it just gives it a little juice so that then it's a little bit more active. 01:10:01.840 --> 01:10:13.520 Um yeah, and what's so nice about it too is yes, there's an app on your phone that you can download, but um you can share it in the family because it's two to three minutes uh per session. 01:10:13.680 --> 01:10:18.239 So um yeah, the teenagers and adults can use it. 01:10:18.640 --> 01:10:19.039 Wow. 01:10:19.199 --> 01:10:19.920 Oh my gosh. 01:10:20.000 --> 01:10:23.760 I'm a health, I'm definitely a health gadget enthusiast. 01:10:23.840 --> 01:10:25.119 So that's helpful. 01:10:25.359 --> 01:10:27.039 I haven't heard of that one yet. 01:10:27.279 --> 01:10:27.840 Oh man. 01:10:27.920 --> 01:10:28.479 Well, thank you so much. 01:10:29.039 --> 01:10:30.079 You're gonna love it. 01:10:30.399 --> 01:10:31.600 I think I think so too. 01:10:31.760 --> 01:10:33.520 You don't have to tell me twice anything you say. 01:10:33.600 --> 01:10:35.119 I'm like, here's my credit card. 01:10:38.000 --> 01:10:39.840 Um, well, thank you so much. 01:10:40.000 --> 01:10:46.000 I feel like ending this conversation, I'm so thankful for all of your wisdom, but also there's so much more that I would love to learn. 01:10:46.079 --> 01:10:50.640 Um, but the beauty of that is you have your website and the book available that we can all dive into. 01:10:51.039 --> 01:10:52.960 And thank you so much for sharing your wisdom. 01:10:53.039 --> 01:10:54.159 I appreciate it so much. 01:10:54.399 --> 01:10:55.600 Oh, thanks for having me. 01:10:55.760 --> 01:10:59.920 It's such a delight to feel like I just got to hang out with a girlfriend for the morning. 01:11:01.199 --> 01:11:04.640 It's really it's it's really, really lovely to chat with you. 01:11:05.439 --> 01:11:10.880 Such a um wonderful way of pulling the questions and making it relatable. 01:11:10.960 --> 01:11:12.720 So thank you so much for having me. 01:11:13.039 --> 01:11:13.840 Oh, of course. 01:11:13.920 --> 01:11:15.439 That means a lot to me as well. 01:11:15.680 --> 01:11:17.840 Well, guys, I'm gonna chat with Dr. 01:11:17.920 --> 01:11:21.119 Shippy for a little bit longer, but we will see you next week. 01:11:21.359 --> 01:11:22.720 Thanks for being here.