Full Transcript for Mac & Bone Hour 3: Panthers Reinforcements

as we were at Rich Clark, the executive director of the CFP that said, yes, we considered what the fans had to say. 00:05:48 Speaker 2: But we did. 00:05:49 Speaker 3: We did this anyway. Like you didn't consider for one second what we think. 00:05:53 Speaker 1: Well, let me tell you a little bit about Rich Clark. I've had the fortune of getting to know him. He's a retired Air Force general. And thank goodness he's retired. Can you imagine that guy leading our armed forces right now? I mean, the point is, and he has nothing to do with it, by the way, and they shouldn't have let him in front of a microphone because that does sound like a guy in the military. Hey, I'm sorry that my men are starving, but that's their problem for not being a general. You know, college leaders do not care what we think. That's why. 00:06:33 Speaker 1: I finally just changed my mind. I was against this like you were and like everybody listening was. And then they announced it a couple weeks ago that it was coming, and I came out and tried to find some positivity, and I got criticized. You change your position. People in Washington change their position every day. 00:06:49 Speaker 2: So what? 00:06:51 Speaker 1: We have it. Yeah, I work at ESPN. Who owns it? Does that have any influence on me? No. But the bottom line is ESPN, Here's the key word. You guys ready for this? It gives more programs access. And what does that mean? So, so Clemson and South Carolina and Duke and North Carolina now have a better, more access to the CFP. Does that mean they get a better seat when they watch it? Does that get them in? I have no earthly idea what that means. 00:07:21 Speaker 4: Paul, what do you think of the roller coaster that the Gamecocks have been on this year? They now find themselves actually in a pretty decent spot in the CFP compared to what it was or what it could have been weeks ago. They have Georgia coming up after Arkansas. Do you think that they have any chance against Arkansas? What do you think about the Gamecocks right now? Sorry, against Georgia, not Arkansas. 00:07:45 Speaker 2: Sorry. 00:07:48 Speaker 1: You're going to have to do a hundred year check this weekend. He's the head of the CFP in Fayetteville. He's not going to like what we said. You know, I mean, I can't figure, I mean, I, I was, I'm pretty sure in one of the hot takes I had this year, I buried Shane Beamer. I can't remember because I also buried Dabo Sweeney and Bill Belichick and, and about a hundred other people. So I'll have to go back and check the file on exactly what I said. Shane Beamer was done at South Carolina, but, but it has been remarkable watching this team come back. And assuming they get past Arkansas and I don't know why, why they shouldn't everyone else has this year, that game against Georgia is going to be monstrous. I mean, that's going to be one of the biggest night game at Williams rice. I mean, and yeah, Georgia looks impenetrable, but that I I've seen South Carolina be Georgia. Listen, we'll must champ beat Georgia when he was the head coach at South Carolina. And I don't think he had another win. 00:08:50 Speaker 2: That's true. It's true. 00:08:52 Speaker 3: I think you're right about that. No, no doubt about it. What do you think of Georgia, Paul? Like that performance against, against Mississippi was a statement. Do you, is it, is it as simple as if they were to play their a game, they would be, I mean, that's the thing. You're not guaranteed to play that well every week, but like, I'm not sure anybody's touching them if they bring that sort of performance. 00:09:18 Speaker 1: Speaker 4 0 No. Listen, Lenora sellers is really good. And, and, and I just, I think they were just screwed up early in the season. Remember the thing, but I mean, I'll give Beamer credit. I mean, he can exhaust you sometimes, but, but I mean, they are there. He not only saved his job, but I mean, he saved this program because five, six weeks into the season, it looked like it was going, it was about to implode. 00:09:47 Speaker 4: The scary part a little bit as a South Carolina fan is I feel like Beamer does his best work when his back's against the wall. Last week was a little bit scarier than maybe it should have been. When they're the when they're they hunted paul and that's why this weekend it's not necessary they should be dark and saw but you're the back of your mind you're thinking i don't don't mess this up before the big georgia game. 00:10:08 Speaker 2: Coming up you know what i mean yeah Oh, no, no. 00:10:11 Speaker 1: I totally agree. I work on that weekend team, the weekend SEC show, and we always look ahead and go, oh, yeah, we're definitely going to South Carolina. No, not necessarily. I've seen it too many times. I mean, I don't want to give, listen, I'm not going to waste your audience's time on a scouting report for the Arkansas game, but they did beat Vanderbilt, okay? Don't forget that. Vanderbilt only has one conference win. But Arkansas is a pretty shaky team. I think the Cubs can handle this one. 00:10:50 Speaker 3: Okay, so I want to ask you about, I don't know if we've talked much to you about this. You were living in Charlotte where those studios are in Ballantyne, right? For ESPN, the SEC Network. You moved back to the great state of Alabama, right? Do you miss anything about Charlotte? Like, what do you, how do you, do you miss us at all, Paul? You know, do you miss anything about the city? 00:11:14 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. I mean, listen, I finally, we left about a year and a half ago before last football season, not this one, but last one. I finally said to myself, you know, I can't handle the Panthers anymore. So I left and they go to the playoffs. 00:11:27 Speaker 2: Hey, good. Maybe you were the problem then. 00:11:31 Speaker 1: But then again, I, my wife and I were watching the game the other day. I said, Hey, I think the Panthers are really good. And she said, no, they're not. They look like the same

Panthers when we used to go to the game. I don't know which one. 00:11:43 Speaker 3: We have had a couple of those performances. Your wife ain't wrong. We've had a couple of those performances. 00:11:48 Speaker 2: All right, man. 00:11:49 Speaker 3: Well, I was just wondering, I was just wondering if you missed it. 00:11:51 Speaker 1: We really, we did not leave because, you know, we, we, we were kicked out of town. I mean, we, my wife's from Birmingham, but we had a great time. We were there 13 years. And I mean, I love nothing more than having like an eight 15 American flight and getting to the airport at 7, and then spending the next three hours walking to the E-Terminal. 00:12:13 Speaker 2: That's a hike. That could be a hike. All right, man. 00:12:15 Speaker 3: Well, hey, we're glad to have you on. Appreciate you coming on and giving up your time and having a little fun with us. Keep up the good work, Paul. Thanks so much, man. 00:12:25 Speaker 2: Always enjoy it, guys. 00:12:25 Speaker 1: See you soon. Thanks, Paul. 00:12:26 Speaker 3: All right, there you go. Paul Feinbaum, and it never fails, Bone. He always makes friends on the text line when he comes on. 00:12:32 Speaker 2: He's a friend magnet. He would have it no other way. Spoonie is very upset at Feinbaum right now. 00:12:37 Speaker 3: Spoonie says no one loves themselves and Paul Feinbaum more than Paul Feinbaum. 00:12:43 Speaker 4: I actually thought he– a lot of times he'll take a run at Clemson or Belichick. I actually thought today he was a little bit more– I won't say subdued, but I thought he was a little bit more– He wasn't going after people as much today. 00:12:56 Speaker 3: I do feel like Hunter Urachek got it a couple of times. I thought poor Rich Clark, who served this country. 00:13:03 Speaker 4: Usually he angers a local fan base. I didn't feel like today he was really doing that. Yeah, I couldn't bring myself to ask. Except for the Panther thing at the end. I didn't want to do it to Dabo. For once, I didn't ask him a Clemson question. Dabo's happy he got the six wins. He just learned a new word yesterday. 00:13:21 Speaker 3: We should probably play that clip with Willie P because didn't Willie have a moment like that with him where Willie, in a press conference, said a word that Dabo didn't know? 00:13:30 Speaker 1: Yes. 00:13:31 Speaker 2: That happened yesterday. It's Willie's career highlight. It happened yesterday in Dabo's presser again. Oh, man. 00:13:37 Speaker 4: All right, we come back here on the Mac and Bone Show. Our thanks to Paul Feinbaum. The Panthers stand pat at the deadline, in part because the injured guys will be returning. Do we think these guys, Horn, Jackson, maybe Brooks, XL, do we think that they're going to make a big difference down the stretch? Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ. 00:14:11 Speaker 5: We're working on that right now. It's getting very exciting with some of the guys that are close. And those are the conversations we're having today, tomorrow, as we have these days to evaluate them to make sure, you know, we're talking about JC, we're talking about Mike, we're talking about Jonathan Brooks, you know, all just like going through their processes to see when they're ready to come back. Xavier, you know, another one. And so I'm excited for where they are. We've got to take in these next two days to see what that's going to look like going into the weekend. 00:14:40 Speaker 6: You were able to tell us last Monday that definitively you. 00:14:43 Speaker 2: Were going to open up Brady's window. 00:14:45 Speaker 6: Are you there with any of the four you just mentioned yet? 00:14:49 Speaker 5: Let's see. I can confidently say we're going to open up Xavier's window this week to get him out there. The rest of the guys are kind of, we've got to see what happens in these next couple of days. 00:15:02 Speaker 3: Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ. Mack and Bone with you. So that's Coach Canales chatting with the media on Monday. He will chat again today. And we will also, Bone, it's work Wednesday today for those who celebrate. We will also get a look at the injury report for the first time. Figure out how it is shaping up. Dave said he is excited, Bone, as he often is, about the guys that are about to return. And color me excited, too. Because we got some ballers. I think an interesting question to discuss is the inactivity at the trade deadline and the fact that many are tying it into that they probably feel like they've got plenty reinforcements that are about to come back and make a difference from their own roster in terms of injuries. I guess I'll start with the trade deadline itself, y'all, and feel free to text in on any of this. I want to get Panther fan opinions on this. Were you disappointed they didn't do anything yesterday? 00:16:04 Speaker 4: No, because we went through the cap situation, although they restructured Taylor Moten during the show. 00:16:08 Speaker 2: That's the interesting thing. 00:16:09 Speaker 4: So we thought, oh, maybe they're up to something, and maybe they were just doing that, Mac, in case something came open, being— And if they wanted to make a move, nothing popped open. I'm excited about Horn and Mike Jack and need to say something here because yesterday or a couple of days ago, I went through and said, oh, look at the tough defenses. The Panthers offense still has to play. It's Tampa Bay again. It's Minnesota. 00:16:34 Speaker 2: It's Pittsburgh. It's Seattle. 00:16:36 Speaker 4: But offensively, who the defense is going to play, Mac, and I do think that Todd Walsh, I was, Brenton Buckner was texting me yesterday about what a good job Todd Walsh did the other day. We get Jack and Horn back. Mac, Chicago's offense played them. Detroit played them. Green Bay played them. Sean Payton offense, although not great, played them. There's not as many great offenses the rest of the way. There's some great defenses. Cincinnati's in there. But do you look at this as a

gauntlet of offenses the rest. 00:17:05 Speaker 2: Of the way? 00:17:06 Speaker 4: No, I think that's a good point. We get our guys back, and I think that our offense may struggle. But with the corners coming back, there's some room to make some hay here defensively against Baltimore, Minnesota's offense, Pittsburgh. Seattle's offense isn't great. Atlanta's obviously a struggle. So there's some teams coming up here where I think they can get their footing defensively when the guys come back. 00:17:28 Speaker 3: I think that's a good point, and I do want to have the conversation of how big of a difference are the reinforcements going to make. 00:17:34 Speaker 2: Are we overstating it? 00:17:36 Speaker 3: But I want to respond, Bowen, that I'm not doing anything at the trade deadline. Jason from Over the Cap said yesterday that because he's the one that that informed everybody the Panthers restructured Moten and freed up three million plus of money, cap money. He said it happened Friday. He didn't notice it until yesterday. So, but still I would agree with you. I think they, in hindsight, they probably did this to open it up in case they were looking at maybe making a move, but Dan Morgan doesn't part with his draft picks very willingly. A matter of fact, the only time he's ever done it is the T-Rod Edwards move. And he is not a dude bone that makes deals at the deadline. And maybe this is something we should have looked more at yesterday when we were talking about it. So I think, I think you look at it, it was a long shot. They were going to make a move. 00:18:23 Speaker 4: They made one deadline deal, I think, since, was it 2020 or 2021? 00:18:28 Speaker 2: Whatever the year is. And they weren't buyers. 00:18:30 Speaker 3: They traded Mingo away. They were sellers. They've never been trade deadline buyers under Morgan. So, in hindsight, I don't think it's surprising. I think I heard KB yesterday read off a text from a Panther fan that was like, oh, they really want to get the word out there about all the guys they're getting back so they can justify their non-action at the trade deadline. So I'm wondering how many people are rolling their eyes at it. I personally, Bone, again, we play in the NFC South. If we had to go try to win the NFC North, Bone, these reinforcements would not be enough. You'd probably need three new offensive linemen, Bone, maybe four, if you want to try to win the best division in football. But you said it, with those corners, I'll throw Jalen Phillips in, too. I gave the stat yesterday, Bone, that we have the worst pressure percentage in the NFL when we rush four. That combined with the corners that we're playing right now, That's horrible. That is a horrible mix because you can't get pressure with four. So the guys have to cover longer, but their practice squad guys that are being asked to cover a lot, you get Mike Jack and horn back. And if they have to cover longer, they'll make up for the pass rush. Plus, Jalen Phillips

will improve the pass rush when he comes back. So right there defensively, if y'all don't think it's going to be dramatically different when those three players get healthy, I would argue with you on that. 00:20:05 Speaker 4: When do we think we're going to get Mac, Jack, and Horn back in full together? When do you think that'll be? I know their timelines aren't that different, but do we think that, like, what game do you look at and say that's when they could be in full? And I ask that because is it within the next couple weeks? 00:20:20 Speaker 2: Is it three weeks? 00:20:20 Speaker 3: I definitely think by the Tampa game is my guess. 00:20:24 Speaker 2: Mike Jack will be back. I would guess. We talked to him about it. This week or next? 00:20:29 Speaker 4: I ask that because it puts even more importance, I think, this game this week. I can't say enough how big this game is at 3-5. Because if we can, Mac, navigate these next two games, get by, and get to 5-5, and then have some dogs ready to roam, and Mike Jack, and Horn, some other guys. If we can get to 5-5... and give this team a chance to replicate last year, go win the South. It may not be the best record, but go win the South. We know those guys are going to be ready. You have to put the team in position for those guys to come in and make a late-season impact offensively. I would hate for it, Matt, to be 3-7. Oh, yeah, Horn and Jack, go save the season. Let's get to 5-5, get those guys back, and roll from there. That's the goal right now is 5-5. Let's not forget, and I do think Jack will be back before that point. It really feels like it's this week or next week, and we got it straight from the horse's mouth last week. 00:21:26 Speaker 3: Horn was always going to be maybe a week or two longer. it felt like from what we were originally told. Don't forget, Will Lee will come back, too, at some point. 00:21:33 Speaker 2: That's true. So you will have Mike Jack, Horn, and Will Lee together. Because Will Lee was playing pretty damn good, though. 00:21:39 Speaker 3: He was. 00:21:39 Speaker 2: Good point. 00:21:41 Speaker 3: And I thought Shaw Smith-Wade played pretty good the other night. So you'll have some options. Will Lee in the slot. You'll have Shaw Smith-Wade. They like Merrig as the big nickel sometimes. You'll have some more options. And I think it'll make a big difference. The game this week is huge. The Tampa game is must-win. We already have lost a game to them. I was looking up remaining schedule strength. Tampa has the easiest schedule in the NFL the rest of the way. They literally play two teams that will be playoff teams the rest of the way. And it might not even be that because one of them is the Rams. And the Rams aren't a lock. Like their schedule bone is real easy. So these two divisional games, hell, I guess they all are. I guess when you're three and five bone and leading a division by the skin of your teeth, I mean, I guess all the damn games are going. 00:22:29 Speaker

2: To be freaking important. 00:22:30 Speaker 4: Tampa's on a bye this week and their hardest game outside the Rams is at Detroit. That's their next game after that. Then they play us. But they hadn't played New Orleans yet either. New Orleans holds a lot of cards here, Mac. We played them twice. They played Tampa twice. So New Orleans is not as good as maybe I thought, but they do hold a lot of cards here in this race. 00:22:52 Speaker 2: Because of who they play. Us and Tampa twice each. 00:22:54 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true. It's going to come down to those games, right? 00:22:57 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:22:58 Speaker 3: Is it safe to assume we all will lose games outside of our division? And then the tiebreakers, the head-to-head amongst us, that's going to be freaking huge. A couple of texts from the naysayers, Bone. God forbid people text it and say, you know what? Can't wait to get these guys back, man. 00:23:14 Speaker 4: And as always, that's the audience back brought to you by QC Mechanical, your local HVAC experts. 00:23:19 Speaker 3: So we're asking the audience, do you believe these returns will make a difference? 704-5709-610, or a big difference. But shocking developments. We asked the audience, and they answered with negativity. 00:23:32 Speaker 2: 704. 00:23:33 Speaker 1: Ah! 00:23:34 Speaker 3: Jalen Phillips will improve the pass rush for one play until he gets hurt again. This texter says, growing up is when the NFC South isn't good enough. I don't think anybody's saying that we need to throw a parade if we win this division. But one of the things that happens with some of y'all in our fan base that drives me crazy is we wait all offseason for football. 00:23:58 Speaker 2: We all say we live for football. We live for the Panthers. 00:24:02 Speaker 3: And then we're in the middle of the Panthers season, like literally about smack dab in the middle, right? Eight games played, nine to go. We're a half game up in first place. things have been horrible from an injury standpoint. And, but we still have division title chance to get in the playoffs, wreak some havoc, all that stuff to play for. And y'all just want to give up and say, eh, it doesn't matter if we win the South. Like, I'm sorry. We got the whole off season bone to bitch and moan. We got the whole off season to say, this guy should be fired. We're not good enough. They're not, you know what I mean? They're they underachieved. I don't understand why fans halfway through the season just want to mentally check out and not be in the fight while we're leading the division. 00:24:41 Speaker 2: I don't get it. Rooting for losing gets tiresome, man. It just. 00:24:46 Speaker 4: I guarantee you, Matt, that's probably draft position guy also thinks that way. 00:24:51 Speaker 2: Why do we want to win this division? We can get it better. Yeah, we got that yesterday. They'd rather pick in the top 10. 00:24:57 Speaker 4: How many years, Matt, have we been here? We've been here, what, 20, 22

years? And how many of our seasons, whether it be basketball or football, ends up with us trying to look at draft positioning? 00:25:06 Speaker 2: I hate it. It's annoying. 00:25:08 Speaker 4: It's just that I don't want to look at mock drafts right now. I don't want to look at the draft standings. I just want a team that can compete as far as they can go, wherever that takes us. If that's the end of the regular season and they fall short, whatever, if that's the first round of the playoffs, I just want them to go as far as they possibly can. 00:25:24 Speaker 3: I got news for y'all. Y'all will be just as good at bitching and moaning in the offseason. Trust me. I got the evidence right here on the text line. Y'all will be really good if the season is a flop talking about it. 00:25:39 Speaker 2: I would say elite. 00:25:40 Speaker 1: Elite. 00:25:42 Speaker 2: So how about we just wait till then? 00:25:43 Speaker 3: And how about right now we root and we try to figure out, you know, can they put this thing together, win this division? 00:25:50 Speaker 2: Now, here's another negative text. We will not invite you to our social patio. 00:25:55 Speaker 3: Shocked by this. Jerry the Artist says, big difference. We have everything to play for. 00:25:59 Speaker 2: I like that. 00:25:59 Speaker 3: 704 number says, the defensive additions will help. It isn't going to help our offensive line. And that is a more legitimate question. I think getting Phillips in the two corners and then even three corners, if you include Will Lee, I think that's pretty obvious, Bone. 00:26:15 Speaker 2: That'll help the defense. 00:26:16 Speaker 3: And you brought up the point about the schedule for the defense easing up a little bit. How much can they improve the O-line? Brady Christensen, where do you play him? Do you plug him in at center and get Luke Fortner off the field? Although I feel like Fortner's been better the last couple weeks. Do you put him in at one of the guard spots? Do you take Rashid Walker off the field? How long until Icky comes back is a question we don't have the answer to, but I'd feel good. You can't tell me, Bo, right off injury. That's a horrible injury. That's a long-term absence. You can't tell me Icky couldn't be better than Rasheed Walker is most weeks. 00:26:54 Speaker 2: You know what I mean? But we just don't know when he's coming back. 00:26:56 Speaker 4: That's not a good sign back when you brought up almost every offensive line. 00:27:00 Speaker 2: Position for Brady Christensen. We need to clone him. Is he center? Is he a guard? Is he a tackle? 00:27:06 Speaker 4: If you just told us that in advance, I'd say, uh-oh, the offensive line may have some issues. 00:27:10 Speaker 3: We need to clone Brady Christensen because right now I can't figure out which underachieving or poor-performing lineman I want him to replace. 00:27:16 Speaker 2: Yeah, rank your spots for Brady Christensen. 00:27:20 Speaker 3: They've got to get the O-line, because

I get what y'all are saying. It's not like, you know what I mean, so many spots are issues. You can't solve. 00:27:29 Speaker 1: All of them. 00:27:30 Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Here's the question back. 00:27:34 Speaker 4: And again, do you want Bryce's blindside protected to avoid the crashing ends that mess with him and he can't stop? Or do you want to fix the guy directly in front of him that gets pushed back into him and messes up his view of the pocket? 00:27:48 Speaker 2: Talk about a nasty audience. Is it the blindside protection or the protection straight in. 00:27:53 Speaker 3: Front, which is both problems, right? Dude, we're not the only ones mad. Bryce was yelling at some of them boys. 00:27:58 Speaker 2: Oh, no, I noticed. Yeah, I was right there. Yeah, he was. He had a lot of hands up. Like, what was that? He's getting pissed off, too. Good for you. 00:28:04 Speaker 3: You know how many great quarterbacks we've seen yelling at guys, linemen and stuff? 00:28:08 Speaker 2: So good for you. To me, it's a shame. He was yelling at Rasheed Walker as Rasheed Walker ran over to pick him up. 00:28:14 Speaker 3: How many times Rasheed Walker got pushed back and stepped on Bryce, too? 00:28:18 Speaker 2: Seriously. 00:28:18 Speaker 3: He's using Bryce as a damn doormat. I'd rather have Rasheed Wallace. At least he can talk trash to the opposing team. What do you think about the R-Guy 3 ninja guy who wants to see Tommy Tremble at left tackle? 00:28:31 Speaker 4: Man, we love moving tight ends around, don't we? Wide receivers to tight ends, tight ends to tackles. I mean, you want him to chip block, that's one thing, and help out. But as a left tackle? I will say this. 00:28:44 Speaker 2: If the O-line can just be average in pass protection, I would take it. 00:28:49 Speaker 3: I don't know when Icky's going to come back, but if you get Icky and Brady in for Walker and either Fortner or a guard spot, can you be average? The thing that sucks is I believe the skill guys, Bo, are really all balling. 00:29:08 Speaker 2: Chuba Hubbard, to me, is having a great season. The tight end group is now a strong point. Yeah. No longer is it the biggest weakness. 00:29:17 Speaker 3: It's actually with Waller, Tremble and Mitch, it's actually now like a strong point of the roster. Coker's been a little quiet lately, but I like the wide receiver crew with TMAC, Coker. 00:29:29 Speaker 2: I like the way Mechia stepped up. You'll get XL back. I'm not asking for much, but could you get. 00:29:35 Speaker 3: A deep shot every two games or something from them? um it's just that line man and i i think it's a legit question bone of how much we can. 00:29:44 Speaker 4: Improve that line we have a text here from a man named bebop from rock thrill great quarterbacks yelling at guys did great quarterbacks that have a better than 60 completion rate by the way bebop for completion rate numbers and guys yelling at their teammates Dan Marino and Bryce Young have almost the same career completion percentage. 00:30:04 Speaker 2: Oh, interesting. 00:30:05 Speaker 4: 59 for Marino, 58.7 for Bryce Young. I'm pretty sure Dan Marino yelled at most of his teammates. Bebop, you still here, bro? Seriously, you still here? 00:30:16 Speaker 3: Someone should have kidnapped Bebop and stuffed him on one of those planes back to Denver. 00:30:21 Speaker 2: Seriously. What was the name of the airline? The Final Frontier? Frontier Airlines. Get him on a damn $ 98 flight out of here. That would be. 00:30:30 Speaker 4: Bebop's Final Frontier because he ain't coming back. 00:30:33 Speaker 3: Buffet Enforcer would like to call Mike Remmers and see if he still has some snaps in him. John would like Frank Garcia to be the starting center. 00:30:44 Speaker 2: I will say this. 00:30:44 Speaker 3: Y'all are being very creative. Y'all are spitballing right now. 00:30:47 Speaker 4: Someone told me yesterday that Garcia can still play at a high level. However, it was Frank Garcia that told me that. 00:30:53 Speaker 3: Maybe golf. Maybe golf he can still play at a high level. What did the other dude say? Frank Garcia with his club foot would be better than Luke Fortner. 00:31:04 Speaker 2: Hold on, I've messed this up before. It's not clubfoot. What does he have? 00:31:08 Speaker 1: Dropfoot. 00:31:09 Speaker 2: Dropfoot. What is the difference? 00:31:11 Speaker 4: Clubfoot was like Tom Dempsey, the kicker back in the day. 00:31:13 Speaker 2: Oh, okay. Like a block as a foot. Yeah, he doesn't have that. I don't exactly know. I've called it clubfoot before. It's not funny. The guy's got a medical thing. Yeah, it's not good, man, for him. I hope you're feeling okay, Frankie. It's not a club foot, though, all right? You're right. That's a good point. That's a very good point. 00:31:31 Speaker 4: When we come back to the Mac and Bone Show, the college football playoff rankings, week two last night, some big moves. How do we feel about the results that we saw on Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ? 00:31:55 Speaker 6: And then you take Miami. Miami didn't look great early in the game. Give some credit to Notre Dame's defense. I think Notre Dame, Miami found their way. Without Malachi, Tony came back and made that a very competitive game. So credit to them. But then you look at what happened just below them where Georgia got a big win. Alabama got a big win. UCLA even got a big win on the road at Minnesota. And so it allowed there to be some movement from Miami dropping down some and Notre Dame coming up some. 00:32:26 Speaker 3: That is Arkansas lady and college football playoff committee chair Hunter. You're a check last night with Reese Davis and company on the ESPN playoff show, which they had. 00:32:38 Speaker 2: To squeeze in. They do this every year. 00:32:40 Speaker 3: They squeeze a little brief show in between the two, um, um, Now I forget what that's called. 00:32:46 Speaker 2: Champions Classic. 00:32:47 Speaker 3: Champions Classic games. And they

don't get the full bloviating experience. But don't worry. Hunter, Eurocheck still pissed people off. Bone, I have to tell. 00:32:57 Speaker 2: You right now. Hunter, you better Eurocheck yourself before you wreck yourself. That's what I always say. 00:33:03 Speaker 3: But I've tried that one off the air and got full approval. That was very good. 00:33:06 Speaker 2: I love that. 00:33:07 Speaker 4: This is one of those times, Finney, where Mac wanted me to say it on the air because of how dumb it was. 00:33:10 Speaker 2: I love it. No, that's a good one. Say it on the air. Then I got crickets over here. 00:33:15 Speaker 3: I will support that joke until the cows come home, baby. I love that joke. Smoke Ludwig will mess up that saying about the cows coming home. He'll take the cows to water. 00:33:24 Speaker 2: Damn it. 00:33:26 Speaker 3: You can lead them to the pond, but you can't make them drink the stuff. All right, anyway, we love you, though, Smokey. I know it's been a tough one for you. 00:33:33 Speaker 2: Maybe you might not, though. Love you. 00:33:36 Speaker 3: Anyway, that's his explanation on why Miami dropped from one to seven for a seven-point loss to Notre Dame, where they were so close on that pass to tying the game in the fourth quarter and rallying completely from 21 points down. Why on earth would part of your criteria be... How the game went in the first half and how they got dominated by Notre Dame in the first half of the game. Does this fool not realize you play four quarters of football? Why are we judging someone in a game bone where they nearly won on the road without Malachi Tony? 00:34:10 Speaker 2: Why are we judging them? Why does the first half on its own a factor? I don't understand. 00:34:15 Speaker 4: It's the dumbest thing Juracek has said since last week's meeting with Reece Davis on ESPN's playoff ranking show. It doesn't make any sense whatsoever. So we now give merit to half games. I don't that doesn't make. So what if they play better in the second half? Does that outweigh the first? I don't understand any. of what that means miami got punished for pushing notre dame without their best player and pretty obvious to me mac if an sec team goes in and plays another ray college football playoff team without their heisman trophy caliber player yeah are they punished like miami was had. 00:34:53 Speaker 3: No way they dropped absolutely not no way they would drop six spots Because you gave merit to Notre Dame for beating Miami by how you moved. 00:35:01 Speaker 2: Now, I know they're correcting a little bit. You moved them up six spots. But you moved them up because it was a big win, right? 00:35:05 Speaker 4: But then Miami moves down six spots, but... So it was a big win for Notre Dame. Isn't Miami still a pretty good team? But yet you moved them down six spots. 00:35:15 Speaker 2: It's ridiculous. It doesn't. 00:35:16 Speaker 3: The messaging is not all aligned. I was so bothered by that. If y'all didn't see the rankings, Georgia one, Utah two, Alabama three, UCLA up four spots. And by the way, the way they talked about that Minnesota win. I mean, you would have thought they beat the Vikings in Brian Flores' defense. 00:35:33 Speaker 1: Oh, I know. 00:35:33 Speaker 2: I mean, like, just an amazing Minnesota win. Really? 00:35:37 Speaker 3: Like, I feel like you're overdoing it. And you know what else they're overdoing? Hunter Juracek did it again with that. And don't get me wrong. Alabama has really pretty much shut me up by going to Tiger Stadium and pulling away from them the way they did. So they're number three. I ain't really going to complain about it, even with two losses. But can they stop saying... He said last night, they have really four quality wins. That Mississippi State win with Kamario Taylor, can we stop with that? Can we stop acting like, I don't know why they want to value that so highly. 00:36:07 Speaker 2: He was already banged up a little bit when he played in that game. He was already banged up when he played in that game. Do the Gamecocks get credit for that being a good loss for them then? I hadn't heard that one. I hadn't heard that one. Although I will say. 00:36:18 Speaker 4: No, because they're not at the top of the SEC like those teams are. They're treated the same. 00:36:22 Speaker 3: Notre Dame was five, Texas six, Miami seven, Tennessee eight, Indiana nine. They dropped five spots and didn't even play. It's the farthest job ever for a team that didn't play. BYU 10. Wake, people are asking about Wake. Wake is 13th and South Carolina 17th. What do you think, Bone, about where, like, Wake moved up three spots. South Carolina, in an ugly win over unranked Texas A & M, moved up four spots. So Wake beat a Merrimack team that's horrendous. I feel like those are good jumps if you're a Wake or a South Carolina fan. 00:36:58 Speaker 4: It is, but with Miami going to seven now, Matt, clearly it was already going to be– and Wake's got a very tough game against SMU, by the way, this week. It was already going to be a tough hill to climb, Matt, to try to get, I think, two from the ACC in. But when you move Miami down to six, does that not send a message that getting two in from the ACC, barring something– happening here in the championship game where Wake beats Miami or whatever, getting two wins is going to be very, very difficult, right, for the ACC. Okay, so are you with getting two in? 00:37:29 Speaker 2: Yes, definitely. 00:37:30 Speaker 4: The way Miami dropped and the way they're treated, it's going to be impossible. But are you with this? 00:37:34 Speaker 3: Even if Wake wins, what if Wake wins out and their schedule's far from easy with Duke and SMU left on the schedule? By the way, Duke also not ranked, which is also a problem, too. Duke and SMU not squeezing into the bottom of the rankings. is another one that as an ACC fan is a bummer if not angering you. And by the way, the ACC used to be peers with the Big 12. They

used to be together kind of begging for a second team, begging for a few ranked teams. Don't look now. The Big 12 has the complete respect of the committee. The ACC is the only power conference that doesn't. The Big 12, Bone, has four teams in the top 14, including No. 2 Utah, and they have six in the top 25. 00:38:17 Speaker 1: Hmm. 00:38:18 Speaker 2: ACC has two ranked teams. I mean, we can't even get SMU and Duke at the back end of the rankings. 00:38:25 Speaker 3: But I was going to ask you, do you think, because we're getting conspiracy theories from different people here, including Bagel Guy, including Johnny, that they think their conspiracy theory is they have moved Miami down so much so that it ensures the ACC title game is a winner-take-all. insinuating that they would drop Miami out of the playoff if they win all their games the rest of the way but lose to Wake. Are you saying you are now thinking that could happen? 00:38:59 Speaker 4: I think it's certainly possible. Now, the question I would have, how do they handle– and maybe he answered this somewhere– how do they handle injuries, Mac, with this committee? Because if they lose without Tony– say, if Miami lost without Tony, how do they handle that? 00:39:16 Speaker 3: Apparently they handle it in a messed up fashion. Because they should have got a reprieve for that. So Miami could get pushed out because they have no... No, I think if Miami wins the ACC, they're getting pushed out of this thing. 00:39:30 Speaker 2: If they lose, though. If they lose to Wake. Does only Wake go? That's what everybody's fearing. 00:39:35 Speaker 4: My question is, if they have two losses and they're both without Tony, does that factor into this or not? 00:39:41 Speaker 3: It should, but apparently not having Malachi Tony didn't factor in this week. 00:39:45 Speaker 2: That's a good point. Because they should get, you know, that should be part of not dropping them. 00:39:50 Speaker 4: I think Miami's getting taken care of this weekend anyway, to be honest with you. When's the last time Miami saw an opponent of this caliber? 00:40:00 Speaker 3: Duke has passed Notre Dame now in your personal ranking. 00:40:03 Speaker 2: Dukey filth. 00:40:04 Speaker 3: Big Payne is also on board with this, Bone. He believes, if you haven't figured it out yet, they moved Miami down to make sure only one ACC team gets in, depending on who beats who. I mean, it's notable. It's not crazy. It's getting a bit concerning. And I brought this up a week or two ago. And I brought it to Taylor Tannenbaum, and she was incredulous. Said there's no way they could do this. Here's the problem, Maggie. 00:40:29 Speaker 2: If Miami lost to Notre Dame and lost to Wake Forest, they could bounce them out. 00:40:34 Speaker 4: Because of this structure, when an SEC team drops a little bit, there's always another team they can play to help them move up. So Miami drops, right? Now it's an unranked Duke team. Virginia Tech, who... We thought was,

you know, trending upwards, but they got blasted by SMU and it's Boston College. So and then it's, you know, potentially Wake Forest. We'll see what happens. But where are the opportunities back really in the regular season from from Miami to try to reestablish its footing here? They're not going to get a whole lot of credit for Duke, Virginia Tech and Boston College. the way the ACC is treated. So if Miami trends down, do they have the ability to trend back up? Or are they only going to be stagnant or drop down lower because of who they're playing? Do they have to go beat the hell out of these teams now, one of those deals? 00:41:18 Speaker 2: And does that matter? 00:41:19 Speaker 4: If they play Duke and they beat Duke 23-20, are they going to be punished for that now? Like, how's this going to work? ACC is treated different than the other conferences. It's a hell of a damn question. There's no doubt about. 00:41:29 Speaker 2: It, man. 00:41:29 Speaker 3: Do they need style points now in these games? Like, here's, and will style points matter? Wake Forest has plenty of style points. Hadn't seen it really matter, you know, that much. As far as the Miami thing goes, they're going to get Tony back for the postseason. So they then, that should give them a reprieve in the final rankings because they will then, they won't be this non-Tony team anyway. But again, do I think that they would get a benefit of the doubt being an ACC team? No, to all of y'all's point, I am very fearful that and skeptical as well. 00:42:04 Speaker 4: The difference here with Tony and the Jordan Travis FSU situation was they're getting him back. They're getting him back. If he wasn't coming back, then we have a whole nother discussion going on. 00:42:12 Speaker 3: The thing that scares me from a Miami perspective is they've already shown you this like ability and desire and willingness to just move teams way. 00:42:23 Speaker 2: Up or way down. Miami down six spots, Indiana down five spots. Didn't play. 00:42:29 Speaker 3: They can just do whatever the bleep they want and then send Hunter. You're a check out there, um, to, to BS his way through it. Like Indiana not playing and dropping five spots. Like, yeah, I get all their opponents lost and stuff like that. And there are other teams having big wins, but like, It just kind of feels like they feel like they messed up last week and put them too high. Like, that's my problem, Bone, is that they can just do whatever the bleep they. 00:42:58 Speaker 1: Want, man. 00:42:59 Speaker 4: A man that does whatever the bleep he wants, Mac, is Willie P. It's been a very quiet Willie P. 00:43:05 Speaker 2: Week. We're kind of. 00:43:06 Speaker 4: Kind of nervous about what he's been up to. We do know that the great Colin Hoggard has ordered a new pair of gloves for Willie P. 00:43:13 Speaker 1: Why? 00:43:14 Speaker 4: What is going on here? What is Willie involved in? Friday morning here on this program. Also, what do you think about the Panthers' loss to Denver? Standing pat at the deadline. And the Hornets as well. 00:43:25 Speaker 2: NFC. Willie P. Next. Sports Radio. 92.7 WFNZ.