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Speaker 1: Oh, oh, oh, it's Mac and Bo on your radio, baby.
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Speaker 2: This is my friend, Matt. Posh, come on, Posh.
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Speaker 3: This is my friend, T-Bone.
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Speaker 2: Let's have some fun.
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Speaker 4: I can't go to work without listening to Mac and Bone.
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Speaker 2: Do it live. Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ. Mac and Bone with you. Having a good time. Cruising through two hours on this radio show. Smoke Ludwig, if you're out there, I take back all I screamed about you losing our remote control. Donald, the king of the building, brought us a replacement remote control, Bone. We are channel surfing. Like there's no tomorrow, baby.
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Speaker 3: We sat here for four days and didn't realize, oh, we work in a building with a TV station. There's got to be remotes hanging out somewhere. Never dawned on us. We were trying to figure out who's going to buy a new one. Apparently, Matt, the TV station's got plenty of remotes.
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Speaker 2: Who knew? Who knew? Also, want to shout out Landon. We're putting ACC Network on right now. Of course, clearly. Want to shout out Landon Dickerson. Everybody knows Bone. He attended Hickory High School before moving to South Caldwell and then graduated from there, has local ties. So a local radio host, Bone, should not call him Landon Dickinson. But it turns out, Bone, we got to clean up aisle three. I've done it again on this radio show. So Landon, get well soon, baby. Get well soon, but not soon enough to play against the Panthers, though. Take another week after this week. I don't think I've messed up yet today, have I? Or have I messed up? I've got you beat 7-0. I think I'm up a touchdown and an extra point. All right, let's bring in somebody that you know will not mess up, Bone, on this radio show. She is the hostess with the mostest on the ACC Network, whether it's ACC Huddle. We're all over the place, including the ACC tip-off coverage here in Charlotte this week. And she is now here with us to talk some ACC football. Taylor Tannenbaum, ACC Network, joins us on the Mac and Bone Show. Taylor, how have you been? What's going on? Hello, boys.
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Speaker 4: I've been great. It's been an awesome week. Weeks full of all the things, and always great to be back in Charlotte, but obviously it's short-lived because we are hopping on a plane and heading to Pittsburgh today.
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Speaker 2: I like it. We talked about that game last hour, and I don't know how many Tar Heel fans are with us on this, but we really believe backup QB making a first start for Pitt. Pitt had an emotional win last week, and Caroline is clearly more competitive. I can see a path to an upset for UNC. How do you feel about that?
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Speaker 4: Absolutely. I mean, when a team loses its starting quarterback, that shifts a little bit of everything. Holding Garner is an inexperienced quarterback. This will be his first career start, right? But he's been around the block. He's played at Auburn, Texas State, so he's seen a lot of ball, but I don't know how much live ball with the ones against a team like Carolina that he's seen, right? So if you stick the dogs on him, You never know what could possibly happen. And then it becomes a low scoring affair. And if you're like Carolina last week, you special teams, use your defense to try to generate some points because offensively for Carolina, while it's been okay, I don't know how great they could fare against this pit defense who will always keep the Panthers in the football game. Like no question about it. But when you lose a starting quarterback, yes, to your point, that's grounds for you to believe that Carolina can certainly pull this off on the road.
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Speaker 3: Taylor, another huge game we can't wait to see on Saturday is Wake and NC State. Let's start with the Wake side of things. How impressed have you been with Jake Dickert through a year and now some change into this year, a month in? And what is it that just makes his style work with Wake Forest where it's not always easy to win there.
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Speaker 2: Like he is right now?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, most wins by a head coach in Wake Forest history in his first two years. Nine wins last year and well on their way to the sky's the limit, to be honest with you, at this point this year. I just think he has guys playing hard, man. And part of being a head coach is putting people in position to succeed. He's hired the correct coordinators. in Scotty Hazleton on one side defensively, which that defense is legit. If you ask any of our guys, our analysts, Eddie Royal, Eric McLean, Jimbo Fisher, they're so impressed, especially what they do with that defensive front. They will confuse the heck out of you. And then offensively with Robbie Zell and pairing him with a quarterback that he had a ton of success with at South Alabama once again. It's been a match made in heaven. And then they have found some pieces playmaker wise that have really stepped up to the plate and Carlos Hernandez and this young big receiver and Jack Foley like they've got some dudes and while they may not be big name guys like they play their role to perfection and they execute and he has them believing like strip the name off the jersey like this football team is legit and for whatever reason throughout the years like even when Dave Clawson was there beyond that Wake Forest just doesn't get the love it deserves for certainly overproducing for what they have on the table. And, and once again, that we're seeing that this year and it's pissing me off to no end, but if they just keep winning, hopefully everything takes care of itself. I know if you follow me on Twitter, you know, like I'm enraged about the wake forest Duke conversation. Um, they should be ranked and talked about more highly. But I just love what Jake Dickard is doing there in Winston-Salem.
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Speaker 2: I didn't even have to bring this up. I was going to tell you that my favorite
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version of you, Taylor Tannenbaum, is Feisty Taylor. I just love it. I love the way that you stand up because somebody's got to do it, right? Like there are plenty of people to stand up for the 11th SEC team to be ranked. So I'm glad that you are out there to do that. And yeah, I really think The performance by Wake against Miami, I think it opened some eyes nationally, but apparently not enough.
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Speaker 4: Apparently not enough. And look, the SEC is great. Do not get me wrong. I covered that league for years. They are unmatched when it comes to certainly recruiting and then also just environment. It's second to none. You are never going to lose a debate on that. I understand that's where that comes from, but that doesn't mean it can detract from some of the quality of the teams in the ACC. And my problem is if you're going to rank some of these teams the way that you are, like you cannot not be ranking Wake and Duke. Like it's just, it's not logical and it's negligence and you need to be paying better attention. And I understand AP poll voters have a lot to look at and I'm not calling everybody out. There are some incredible voters out there who if you look at their ballots are absolutely correct and they watch a lot of tape and a lot of live ball to know what they're talking about. But there's ones out there who just, like, feel like they're granted the right to do this. And it's a responsibility. It's not just a right. And the people who I know, my friend Mark Packer is one of them, who says the AP poll doesn't matter. I have talked to several head coaches currently, and I ask genuinely speaking, like, does this not matter? Like, they'll stand up at a podium and be like, we don't care about the ranking. Peel back the curtain. It does matter. Multiple coaches. I've talked to two in the last two weeks. who have told me it does matter in terms of internally that your message is being received and everything that's happening on the football field for these young men, it's justification that what they're doing is the right thing. It's also in recruiting, especially in this day and age when maybe you may be a team with a name like Wake Forest or Duke and it doesn't resonate as well. If you have a number next to your name, it does resonate with high schoolers. And just, you know, when you've been working so hard at something to not see it come to fruition can be a little bit of a dagger to the heart. And, you know, just validation is important. So for people who say the AP poll doesn't matter, I understand the CFP will come out later. But internally within a program and with a head coach who's trying to send a message and get his guys to do what he wants them to do, it does matter.
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Speaker 3: Wake played a Friday night game against Miami where the eyes of the college football world, because of that spot, were largely on Wake Forest. If you watch that game closely, it actually– paid attention wake forest pushed miami as far as anybody has this year so it's crazy to think for how good as wake is their best performance and their most notable thing of why they should be ranked taylor as you know is how well they fought and played against miami and they don't get credit for that though yeah.
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Speaker 4: No and apparently people people love a good loss and it is losing to the number four team in the country by 13 points granted if you watched With your own two eyes, there were multiple chances in that fourth quarter. There was a drop in the end zone on fourth down. That would have made it a one-score game, and then we're having a completely different conversation. If you watched, you would have seen, like, that is a great loss to the number four team in the country, where it wasn't just a 13-point loss. It was potentially a one-score game at times in that fourth quarter. So I'm with you. You don't want to get me wound up. Finally, Ashley Strohlein just walked in the car. We are going to a workout right now.
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Speaker 2: Oh, she texted us. How about this? Hey, look, there's our Tuesday guest. How many Mac and Bone guests can we get in the same car? Oh, my goodness. Are you guys meeting us for this workout? Is that what I heard? Yeah, be right over. Be right over. We didn't schedule it during our workout window. What is that window, Bone? Window is... Never to never. Later on today. um all right let's um let's hear this let's throw a straw we got a party going on straw.
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Speaker 3: You know the deal don't say where you're working out though it's because our texters might show up so just you.
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Speaker 4: Know absolutely not.
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Speaker 2: Some of y'all out there, yeah, some of y'all out there, we do not want y'all knowing this damn address. That would involve our texters knowing where the gym is also. Some of y'all have issues out there. So, Taylor, what do you think? We're talking all about Wake and giving them flowers. I love the way C.J. Bailey's playing. I love the way he's responded from the complete mess of the Vanderbilt play. And I love that State got that win against Louisville. The problem is... they're so dang banged up as you know, Taylor on the offensive line, Duke Scott. So like, how do you feel about that game in Raleigh on Saturday?
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Speaker 4: You know, I thought Davion Goss came in and did a great job and not the dude who can, can carry the load. It's just been Duke Scott's role at that running back position. So I anticipate he'll step right in and, and pick up where Duke Scott can't be because he's obviously out for this game. Um, per the report that just came out. I love the way they're playing. There's always an opportunity. For whatever reason, they've had success. They've had success in the scenario. Obviously, Wake is in a different place right now, and they're feeling good. Like, there's... You know, we can say what we want externally, you guys, and rag on them all we want for the fumble in the end zone.
But, like, clearly what Dave Doran has internally is working. And they have completely turned the page. You almost forget about what happened at that point. The win over Louisville was great. But, like, I would love, you guys, if they could just, like, close a game. It would be really awesome if they could just not take it to the final second of the fourth quarter like one time this season. I'm not so sure that's what it's going to be just because the way that they're built. But you always have a chance when you have C.J.
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Speaker 2: Bailey.
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Speaker 4: And like you just said, credit to him, man. He could have went one direction or the other, and he chose the right one. And we've been saying he's an NFL talent, right? And he wanted to stay in Raleigh, and it's for reasons like this.
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Speaker 1: Like, look.
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Speaker 4: You can rag on them, but everything's still ahead. This league is crazy, and a one loss in conference play at this point means you still have a shot at Charlotte. So why not NC State?
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Speaker 5: Why not?
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Speaker 3: Okay, I like it. I'm having to explain to texters that you and Stro are friends. Someone thinks that Stro was hitchhiking and you happened to see her and she jumped in the car.
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Speaker 4: Let's go with that. It was planned.
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Speaker 3: It was a planned ride. Stro wasn't like, hey, give me a ride. And Taylor was like, all right, come on in. You guys planned this out. That story is juicier.
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Speaker 2: This texter says these two ladies headed to work out just furthermore embarrasses your lack of general activity. Yeah, I'm not going to argue with that. Is anybody surprised that they are more fit than we are, more active than we are?
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Speaker 3: We're working right now. We can't work out and work at the same– we're doing something here.
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Speaker 2: You're a little busy.
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Speaker 4: That's fair.
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Speaker 2: That's our excuse. And later it's nap time, Taylor, all right? That's my excuse for later on. We got you next year. All right, Taylor. Hey, good to talk with you. I'm glad we did get a little peek at Feisty Taylor. I want you to keep that up. The ACC needs ambassadors like you and EMAC and the whole crew fighting a good fight. We appreciate it. Have a good workout. Thank you, Taylor. Appreciate it.
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Speaker 6: Thank you.
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Speaker 4: And I promise next time I'm here, I'm in the studio.
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Speaker 2: Okay, definitely. Yeah, we got to do that. We got to do that. Let us know. I'll bring Murphy in to meet you. Perfect.
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Speaker 5: Oh, my God.
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Speaker 4: That would be bright in my day.
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Speaker 5: All right.
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Speaker 4: Talk to you guys, too, and have a good workout later.
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Speaker 5: Bye. All right.
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Speaker 2: Be good. Have a good workout later. Someone says our workout window is the drive-thru. What's wrong with that? Oh, that's the way we do fitness,
baby. It's a little different. Finito's those lunges, Bone, to reach for the food in the drive-thru window. Those are his lunges.
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Speaker 3: I was watching a TikTok video yesterday where a guy got mad at a drive-thru worker and tried to go— it' s an old one, but he tried to fight him through the window and got stuck.
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Speaker 4: In the window.
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Speaker 2: Those are always glorious. Max, you go to McDonald's today? Yeah, I did. I did. I, when I get, by the time I get to Thursday, I got to cheat a little bit. And, uh, yes, I had some McDonald's bacon, egg, and cheese business. You know what they did though at the McDonald's today? I won't mention the specific McDonald's. I don't need to call out anybody specifically. They gave me Fitty the like white egg that usually is in the McMuffin and not like the yellow bone. You're like, Egg that is usually on a bacon, egg, and cheese biscuit. Okay. I was a little upset by that. A little circular egg that goes on a McMuffin, a little white with the yolk in the middle. Yeah. They gave me that instead of the usual bacon, egg, and cheese egg. So they gave you an egg white, basically, right then, huh? I don't know if it's egg. Whatever it's called. Whatever that is. You know what I'm saying, though. You know the difference. And I prefer the bacon, egg, and cheese egg. that they use oh yeah i got you no i got you everybody follow me out there if you're following me out there you also need to improve your diet if you fully understand this someone asked how disappointed was strode to get in the car and find out oh it's these guys again she just they just wanted to have girl talk strode just wanted to chat you know what i mean and there it is these i thought i was done with them That is pretty funny. By the way, I want to say something about Wake Forest. Feisty Taylor has been really wound up on behalf of them, and I do love it, and I think she's got a great point there. I want to talk about Carlos Hernandez. Everybody talks about Gio Lopez, and that system's perfect for him, and Carolina misused him, and that whole conversation. How tough Gio is, Bo? He's playing injured. He's taking hits. And he's really doing the Bryce thing, taking hits and keeps on ticking. I want to talk about Carlos Hernandez, their wide receiver. I don't think people realize how good this kid is. He has 603 yards, Bone. That is one less yard receiving than Malachi Toney. You would not know that. I guarantee you the national media that doesn't rank Wake would not know that at all. The kid's an absolute baller, man.
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Speaker 3: He came with, he's a Washington State guy also, right? So that's part of that. People are saying Mrs. Mack called McDonald's and said, make sure this guy gets the healthier option. Did I get the healthier? Is that why?
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Speaker 2: So that would be why I didn't like it as much. So you're saying it wasn't egg-cellent. Finney's got dad jokes well before parenthood.
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Speaker
3: Who knows?
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Speaker 2: His current base, he could be one soon. Oh! Settle down.
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Speaker 5: Man!
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Speaker 2: How about that? Is something happening I haven't been told about?
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Speaker 5: Get a break. Bow.
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Speaker 2: She can bow. Anyway, we got to pay for ourselves.
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Speaker 3: When we come back, it's You're Doing Too Much, our weekly segment of people doing too much, saying too much, whatever the case is. This includes Drake May, Stephen A. Smith, and a woman in Mac's neighborhood. That old trio. Sports Radio, 92.7 WFNZ, and a new Panther bop on the way.
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Speaker 7: I drink too much.
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Speaker 2: I want too much. There we go. Shout out to multiple listeners who suggested that this amazing jam from Dave Matthews Band, Too Much, be our lead in song, Bone, to the You're Doing Too Much segment where we think people have gone overboard. And Bone, we have been accused of doing too much.
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Speaker 5: What?
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Speaker 2: I think it was more you than me talking about Fitty's love life on the air. People believe. if there's too much being done there.
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Speaker 3: I didn't say anything.
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Speaker 2: You could be right. I didn't even say anything about it. You could be right. What did I say about it? The thing about fatherhood's coming soon?
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Speaker 6: Oh, yeah, I did.
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Speaker 2: I didn't say that. But you also were dancing during that.
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Speaker 3: I was.
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Speaker 2: I got excited. We also have a text here. I'm just trying to pump our guy up here.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he deserves it. God forbid we respect and love Finney like we all should.
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Speaker 2: We have a text here from Massive Human on the text line that says, Mac, they gave you a real egg instead of a frozen liquid egg, and you're upset about it. McDonald's, you're doing too much right now. Yeah, you're doing too much. Just give me the bacon, egg, and cheese regular. Apparently, it's a frozen liquid egg, but apparently, I like it a lot.
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Speaker 3: Can I say something back about it? I think you might agree on this. The bacon, egg, and cheese from McDonald's. Best fast food breakfast item? I think that's... Like a bowl, yeah. No disrespect to Bojangles. They've got a lot of great stuff. Cajun fillets out there. Cajun fillets out there. There's something that just slaps about that. That's my favorite. I'm a bacon, egg, and cheese sandwich connoisseur. I actually make them a lot on weekends. What did you, man?
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Speaker 2: With the little frozen biscuits I put in the air fryer. Oh, my God.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: But I think McDonald's, among the fast food, has the best. Bojangles is good, too, though. Um, all right. Anyway, we got to refocus here. Food tangent has swept us away yet again. May I start us off with a, a song? So we just played a song. Yeah. Yeah. Who's doing too much. Oh, I don't think this man's doing enough.
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Speaker 3: Our guy should head bar tall Mac diehard Panther fan on Twitter. Go solve the games when things are going well. Shaqued will drop a new song, much like Carolina Mike will do. Shaqued Bartalmak dropped in a new song. I think he freestyled this one directly after the Lions game while he was in his car. This is The Height of Musical Talent by Shakey B.
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Speaker 6: Mountains, coming up the mountains, the Carolina Panthers will destroy your team.
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Speaker 2: And Bryce....
00:19:22
Speaker 6: Can smoke you like a Carolina Reaper can. And Brady Thicke will call a play that will make you burn your throat. Sweet Caroline, let's go. The Panthers won again, again, again, again.
00:19:46
Speaker 2: Cry, Dan Campbell, cry. Oh, oh, oh. pro football. You cry, cry, cry.
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Speaker 3: You can drop it there, Freddie, for now. There's two more minutes to go. Two more minutes? He's definitely doing too much. You're going to have to go to your Spotify's and your whatnot's for that.
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Speaker 2: We're not going to play the whole thing. Shakes, you're doing too much, baby. You're doing too much. How about you get that song down to just like maybe, I don't know, 45 seconds. That means they're winning when Shakes is doing that.
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Speaker 5: Come on, man.
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Speaker 2: You didn't like that? I want Carolina Mike, Shaqued, old collab. Okay, okay. Maybe you'll get that sometime. Maybe you'll get that, party people. I enjoyed it. Let's face it. The number one you're doing too much is Stephen A. Smith. I don't know how many of y'all heard this yesterday or saw this on First Take, but Lane Johnson, who, by the way, has battled mental health issues really the last handful of years, has considered retiring because of them, Bone, decides, yeah, four games in. but decides that he needs to take care of his mental health, take care of family issues, and it's more important than football right now. Stephen A. Smith seemed to want to make light of that. Listen to this from first take.
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Speaker 7: And now the brother sat up there, one of the all-time greatest offensive linemen.
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Speaker 2: And what did he do, Shaq? What did he do, Jordan? He went like this. You know what?
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Speaker 5: I'm going to call it quits.
00:21:05
Speaker 2: Now he calls it quits. Not before season. Not off season. Oh, no, no, no, no, no.
00:21:09
Speaker 7: After being subjected to this, he said, life is a little bit too short. I need to focus.
00:21:16
Speaker 2: What did he say?
00:21:17
Speaker 1: His mental health?
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Speaker 2: Am I making it up? No, you're right. Did he say that? I'm just being short.
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Speaker 7: Four games in to the 20, to the 2026 season. A dude that has been in the league forever sits back and says, I need to focus on my mental health and as an offensive tackle. Lord, you know it's bad. There's no way.
00:21:41
Speaker 2: You're undefeated.
00:21:42
Speaker 7: You're winning
football games.
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Speaker 2: You're thriving.
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Speaker 7: Everybody's got Super Bowl in their sights.
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Speaker 2: You walk away.
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Speaker 7: You walk away because it's a very, very, very bad situation. And it doesn't look to be getting any better.
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Speaker 6: And this brother say, hey, my life matters.
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Speaker 1: It's time.
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Speaker 2: I'm going to call it quits.
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Speaker 5: My mental health, my mental.
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Speaker 2: Lord, that's trouble for the Philadelphia Eagles.
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Speaker 7: And everybody in the city of brotherly love knows it.
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Speaker 3: That's as misguided as you're ever going to get in a situation. Seriously.
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Speaker 2: His family members, his mom and dad are sick, by the way, Wayne Johnson. The mental health, he's joking around. The mental health has to do with the Philadelphia Eagles. And if they were 4-0, he's had mental health issues that he has been very open about, by the way. And I respect that openness throughout the years. My daughter, Caitlin, would say, that's cringe. Like, it's like hard to listen to. And if you watch the video, Bone, the looks on Kimberly Martin's face, Jordan Rodgers' face, even Mad Dog Russo looks at him and is like, I don't, I'm not comfortable with that. You know what I mean? Like you can just see they're uncomfortable.
00:22:53
Speaker 3: I know that he runs the operation there, but feel free to step in at some point guys.
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Speaker 2: Also, I was kind of, I was kind of annoyed. You got no.
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Speaker 3: Problem with anybody. You, you, I know you're kind of letting them go there, but, and then of course he comes back a few minutes later and apologizes. And then he goes on his podcast later and tries to clarify Mac. How many times has Stephen A said something on first take and then got on his own podcast? Finney's got a, Finney, what's your theory on, on Stephen A with that podcast?
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Speaker 2: His podcast exists to apologize for all the messed up things he says on first date. That's not true. The thing is, I don't want the podcast to get enough Stephen A. Smith. It wasn't even an apology, though. It was a you misunderstood what I was saying. I wasn't making light of his mental health issues. And it's like, yes, you are, dude. That's not an apology. That would... As a guy that is married, has been married for over 20 years, and knows apologizing is one of the keys to marriage, Bo, that would not... That's not an apology. I know one when I hear one. You wake up saying, I'm sorry, Matt. I'm sorry. Mrs. Matt, I'm sorry. She's like, for what? All the crap I'm going to do today.
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Speaker 3: And Stephen, you've been around for the whole era of recognizing mental health and the importance and what it means.
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Speaker 2: So.
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Speaker 3: Look, man, I'm sure there's a period of time when we would say stuff about concussions and looking back on it now, it's like, yeah, that's... Read the room, man. Now that we know more, it's like, yeah, that's cringe of what we said. But how do you in 2026... Make light of mental health.
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Speaker 2: Sports or life. That makes no sense to me. Zero sense. Captain Caniac says the name of the podcast needs to be changed to Second Take, where he corrects and apologizes for his first take. All right. That's great. You're doing too much, Stephen A. Chill out, bro. You're doing too much. All right, Boehm, give us another one. Who else is doing too much?
00:24:39
Speaker 3: Mac, I do believe in his wife, Vince McMahon, the former.
00:24:44
Speaker 2: Owner of.
00:24:46
Speaker 3: World Wrestling Entertainment, which was the World Wrestling Federation until the early 2000s. What we're seeing now, Mac, is a lot of people with stories on Vince's behavior over the years because he's no longer in power. So people that dealt with Vince no longer have to worry about fallout, retaliation. So you're getting a lot of stories about the Vince McMahon, not even just the The depravity with the women's stuff. I'm talking about just like human being regular day stuff. Matt, Kevin Lee went on a podcast.
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Speaker 2: Earlier this week.
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Speaker 3: He's the former director of programming for TNN, the Nashville Network, which later became Spike TV. They had the rights to Monday Night Raw in that 99 to 2000 range. So he had to deal with Vince McMahon. I don't know why this meeting took place here, but their first meeting... was at Freedom Hall in Louisville, Kentucky, after a Raw show. They met in the men's room for some reason, and Vince McMahon was at the urinal, and Kevin Lee waited for him. Vince McMahon, who did not like executives, Mac, was at the urinal, then peed on his hands, zipped up, and went over to shake.
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Speaker 1: Mr.
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Speaker 2: Kevin Lee's hands. My God, you're doing it. Yeah, that's a little too much. That's a little too much.
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Speaker 3: That's not doing enough washing your hands, and that's doing a little too much pee-peeing on your hands, Vince McMahon. But what kind of human are you to go pee on your hands and then go shake a man's hand? By the way, a man in power, by the way. I mean, that's good for anybody, but you're dealing with someone that has your future in your hands as well, and you pee.
00:26:18
Speaker 2: On your hands? You do a pee shake? He can't go for the PHA. That's disgusting. And that is he's the respect he has for others. Bone appears to be very minimal, very freaking minimal. That's the man you done did way too much, my friend. Let's go to he's been doing too much for a long time.
00:26:36
Speaker 3: Would eat a well done steak with black coffee for breakfast every morning.
00:26:40
Speaker 2: Okay, that's probably too much, too. They're going on as well. Let's get to Drake May, because Drake May, you're doing too much, baby. You are doing too much. You had a good game on the field. I got research. But now you're making
headlines off the field. I don't know whether to yell at his teacher's bone in science and math locally in the schools here in the Charlotte area, or if we make fun of UNC education. I don't know what we do here. But listen to Drake May on WEEI.
00:27:06
Speaker 5: Let's do our final question for Ask Me Anything.
00:27:08
Speaker 1: Let's take a listen.
00:27:09
Speaker 8: Hey, Drake, what a game yesterday, buddy. I had faith in you, and I never lost it. My question for you is this. What wild conspiracy theory out there do you actually kind of secretly believe in?
00:27:23
Speaker 2: What a planet call that is, by the way. Wow. How about that?
00:27:27
Speaker 5: Let me try not to get too controversial.
00:27:29
Speaker 1: Let me think.
00:27:30
Speaker 2: That's a classic Bostonian on that phone on the end of that other line right there. I don't know about the moon.
00:27:38
Speaker 1: I think I can see.
00:27:41
Speaker 5: Back in the day of why we would put on the mask if we went there, but I'm not really sure 200% if we went there or not.
00:27:49
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say I'm leaning one way or the other.
00:27:51
Speaker 2: I just know I'm a little bit skeptical. Oh, my Lord. Drake May, you're doing too much, baby. You are doing too much. Just say that the Knicks and the Patrick Ewing lottery was rigged. Just go with that one. But why do we have to go to we never landed on the moon? And by the way... He also said, I'm not sure I'm 200% certain on that. Where are your math teachers at, Drake May? Who taught Drake May math in the Charlotte area? You can't be 200% certain about it.
00:28:17
Speaker 3: That's going to lead to some UNC text coming in on the text line.
00:28:21
Speaker 2: Too much, baby. The moon landing, the flat earthers.
00:28:26
Speaker 3: I mean, I know I've got my Bigfoot conspiracies that I live by. I'm also not fully convinced that dinosaurs were real. But still, the moon landing, though, is just.
00:28:37
Speaker 2: Out of this world. You ride up there with Drake May, then. Maybe you and Drake should hang out and talk conspiracies. Where'd they go, then? They never came back. They just left. Well, supposedly, Bone, there was this meteor that hit the Earth and made them all go away. Supposedly. There you go, Bone. Yeah, allegedly. Bone, I'm with you. I don't think... The way that we see dinosaurs portrayed. Exactly. I don't know if I buy that.
00:29:01
Speaker 3: There was something going on, but are they what we thought they were? Like Jurassic Park? Look what Drake Mays done. Now you two are doing too much. I just want one more proof. Shocking bone. Who is with Drake May?
00:29:14
Speaker 2: Bebop. Bebop. The thing about conspiracies. Speaking of dinosaurs. I just feel like we are in such a day and age where people believe whatever the hell they want. And if they don't want to believe something, they call it fake news. I just, we are in a place where like, I just, the, the truth and facts have left the building completely and people just believe anything and then talk about it and spread, the rumors. I'm over the conspiracies right now. Are you convinced we went to the moon? Yes. We got Bebop and Picante don't believe in it. Listen, y'all do what you want, but I believe that and I don't really give much thought to it. Can I do my neighborhood lady bone doing too much? Please do. Because we're running out of time here. And I may be called a jerk for this one. I may be told I'm doing too much by saying this. I was driving in our neighborhood, like on the main road through our neighborhood that kind of connects all the different like kind of, you know, sub areas or whatever. And I'm driving and this woman comes to a complete stop in the middle of this main road in our neighborhood, complete stop. And I'm like, what are we doing? I look up, she is letting an old lady and her dog cross the street. This isn't even a crosswalk bone. This is just the middle of a road, no crosswalk, no designated area. to walk across. And this woman, we're going about 25 miles an hour. And this woman comes to complete stop, makes me sit there behind her while this old lady and her dog crossed the street. Maybe you're in the camp of thinking I'm doing too much and I should shut up and I'm a jerk because it was a poor old lady.
00:30:51
Speaker 5: Boom.
00:30:52
Speaker 2: Why can we not just keep driving? And seven seconds later, when our two cars pass, then the woman and her dog can walk across the street. Why did we have to stop in the middle of the street where you are not supposed to stop? I don't get it. Mac. I don't get it. I feel like you're doing too much here. Really?
00:31:12
Speaker 3: An old lady and a dog. Like, the lady was trying to be nice. What were you in a hurry for?
00:31:17
Speaker 2: Dude, first of all, you stop in the middle of the street, someone can run into you. Right? Someone's not ready to stop in the middle of the street. Secondly, Bone, it saved her, what, six seconds of her day? Did it really... Two cars drive past, she walks right behind us. Why is it necessary to do that? Every second matters, man. Did it really impact your day that much, though? It held me up, like... Because it took damn grandma about 20 seconds to get across the damn street. She's an old lady with... So it held me up for 20 damn seconds. Whereas we could have held her up for six or seven seconds, and then she gets across the street. What were you in a rush for? It's not necessarily a rush. It's like... Who does that? Who stops in the middle of the road to let someone walk across in the middle of the crosswalk? Yes. Is it possible?
00:32:11
Speaker 5: Crosswalk?
00:32:11
Speaker 2: Yes. Middle of the road. Are they friends? Maybe she knew her. She said, come on across. No, there's not that going on. I'd like to thank Hawaiian ham for saying Mac is right here. Cause these two guys have turned on me. They have not gotten my back in this situation. Well, I had a situation in my
roundabout. I'm not getting your back. You didn't get mine.
00:32:31
Speaker 3: An old lady driving a tank went left in the roundabout.
00:32:36
Speaker 2: It nearly hit me head on. Didn't even acknowledge my existence.
00:32:40
Speaker 3: I had to move over as quick as possible because this lady was just not very fast, but no sense.
00:32:47
Speaker 2: She was older.
00:32:49
Speaker 3: But how long has this lady been going the wrong way in roundabouts? I'm very concerned I'm going to see her again, by the way.
00:32:53
Speaker 2: How does she not know the rules of a roundabout if she's been living for a while? I don't get it. I don't know, man. I do not get it.
00:33:00
Speaker 3: We weren't going very fast, to be honest, because it's a roundabout. And I do have fear that people aren't paying attention in roundabouts. But that was jarring. That lady's face is seared in my head, by the way. That lady not even acknowledging that she's going the wrong way, by the way. That's a way to cause an accident. How has she not wrecked before if she goes left in roundabouts?
00:33:16
Speaker 2: Do you not see me darting to the right, lady? By the way, Bone, I would like to thank the legions of individuals on the text line, including Monroe Lara, who said she would flip out on this lady if that happened to her. I appreciate your support. Now, somebody did say I'm a heartless ass, so not everybody's agreeing with me, but I do appreciate the support I'm getting.
00:33:37
Speaker 3: You're getting some people that said that she should have just been ran over and moved on with the day.
00:33:42
Speaker 2: I should have went Dale Earnhardt on her, rattled her damn cage. Bump and run, man, like Bristol. Maybe a little boost along the way, a little bit. No hurt her, but a little boost.
00:33:51
Speaker 3: When we come back, do you want Dan Morgan to be aggressive targeting trades and And if so, what position should he look to add? Sports Radio 92.7.
00:34:18
Speaker 1: When you're in the middle of a game like that, are you aware you're on a heater in a game like that?
00:34:22
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean... You can feel it. The ball just keeps coming to you. I guess good things just happen. It's kind of in that moment.
00:34:38
Speaker 1: I know receivers on occasion can get vocal. Do you get vocal when you know you're open and you know you're red hot and you want the football?
00:34:50
Speaker 2: Nah, man. I just work here.
00:34:52
Speaker 5: That's That's not my job to tell them.
00:34:55
Speaker 1: What do you mean you just work there? You're working it there. You don't say anything?
00:35:02
Speaker 2: No, no, no.
00:35:03
Speaker 5: I let the coordinators and they got people upstairs in the booth watching the game to let everybody know what's going on down there.
00:35:14
Speaker 2: There you go. That is TMAC. I absolutely love that clip. Absolutely love that clip. I said yesterday, Bone, that we have two uber-talented receivers who don't have one ounce of Diva in them. In a league, Bone, filled with Diva-wide receivers and wide receivers that want the football and don't care about anything else. Listen to TMAC right there, man. That is— I love that dude. I love his attitude. And we just got good guys over there, man. We've got so much egoless— individual over there on this team. I love it, man.
00:35:44
Speaker 3: We said it for a long time. Dan Morgan identifies, I do believe, what he needs in a player and a person. Because it's not a coincidence that every time we talk to a guy there or hear a story... They come across or we come out saying, oh, that guy's a good dude. That guy's a good dude. He's a good dude. That's not a coincidence that they're all like that. They are identifying players and humans to make this franchise better. And T-Mac is certainly one of them.
00:36:08
Speaker 2: I love it, man. Guys like that, man. You talk about culture and atmosphere over there. We don't have a lot of me people over there. Except for Jansen. We really don't. Except for Jansen. Except for Jansen, man. All the attention that dude wants. He's got to tell Canales and every referee what the rules are. I mean, yeah, it's a little exhausting, J. How about you doing too much, J.J.? They have to be careful not to upset the locker room with too many guys like Jansen. Let's have the trade conversation, Bone, because we've got, no, definitely not. We've gotten a lot of texts about, for some reason, Dante Jackson's name comes up. I know he's in his last year of the deal in Pittsburgh. I don't know if there was any substance to this or if this just got floated out on social media and people kind of ran with it. The name that I see come up, Bone, because I'm just going to cut to the chase. The only position I would consider trading for if I was Dan Morgan in terms of giving up, precious draft collateral would be corner.
00:37:02
Speaker 7: Yes.
00:37:03
Speaker 2: That's the only position I know. Some of you might make the case for other positions. I see a lot of people saying trade for an edge rusher. Doesn't sound like the Phillips injury is going to be that long. Princely is third and pass rush win rate, by the way, this season, give it up for him on that corner would be the one position. Keyshawn Nixon's a guy at green Bay that comes up when you Google search, like the trade articles about who could be available. It's, Not a lot of guys come up, Bone, at the cornerback position. There are a lot of edges. Guys like Josh Sweat. Who the heck else? Now I'm losing it. Khalil Mack, there are guys that come up at the edge position. I don't really see a ton of corners, but how many positions would you look at and say it's worth Dan Morgan trying to dig up a trade for?
00:37:55
Speaker 3: Only corner, and that is a certain level of corner because those guys are coming back. It's not a matter of when. We'll see, but they will be back for the stretch run, so... You need someone, Matt, that might not be the highest level corner,
but someone that's a level above a Caleb Evans that can at least hold it down until those guys get back. So what can they find there value-wise of a guy that can help out in the meantime?
00:38:22
Speaker 2: That's what I'm looking for.
00:38:24
Speaker 3: I'm not looking to go giving up a ton, but we do need somebody here to at least help out.
00:38:30
Speaker 2: See, here's the thing, too. We had a bye week this week. Mike Jackson was called six to eight weeks. It might be about four more games without Mike Jack. And it might be about... Six, maybe, without J.C.? Yeah. So, like, can you hold it down? We've already talked about the Eagles, the Packers, the Bucs. Some of these teams not looking near as dangerous, Bone, as we thought they would be on offense and just all around. So, yeah, I don't know if we need to go out there, Bone, and get somebody's number one damn corner. you know, and give up a King's ransom. I thought when somebody called KB the other day, and I thought Boney that they put it a good way. They said, is there a Cortland Finnegan out there? Like, is there somebody out there in free age? You remember Cortland Finnegan added to the team in 2015 boat? Oh yeah. Like, is there someone like that out there that you can add to the team that can help for the next month or so? That's a veteran like that. Um, I don't know. Maybe that's another thing we need to search is who like are there any free agent corners that are on the street right now? You know, I know we just brought in Marco Wilson. I don't know if that's the answer.
00:39:39
Speaker 3: One I looked up recently, and I need to see exactly where he is again because I already forgot, was Kenny Moore, the longtime veteran from the Colts, who's a named guy. He's actually– oh, yeah, that's right. He's on the Eagles right now in the practice squad. So there goes that idea for the immediate. Well, you could add him to– you could snatch someone. You could snatch someone, Bone, from a practice squad. You need to look at practice squads too because you can snatch them and put them on your active roster. That's your Finnegan type of a guy. Hey, man, just come in and, you know, just– up the level for now and then be a depth guy when those guys get back but it's a guy like any more yeah that i'd be looking.
00:40:12
Speaker 2: At so i wonder if they would i don't know the exact fit but that's a name that i wonder if they would try to snag someone off a practice squad and just promote them right to our we've got two spots on the active roster right now just sitting there so i wonder if they would try to do something like that all things carolina said what did cory thornton do in august that has evans playing ahead of him he didn't have a great preseason um there's you know you can't deny it watching him there were more there were some rough moments for him um i would i would look at shaw smith wade and say you know he he played 17 coverage snaps in the slot bone didn't give up one target anything could you try to play him a little bit outside instead of a caleb evans.
00:40:53
Speaker 3: I mean certainly anything right now was upgrade i'm not trying to to knock the guy too much. We know how bad the performance was, but really anything is an upgrade over Caleb Evans. You can only ride that out for so long and get away with it, right? You did the other day, but there'll be a game soon, I fear, that, oh, that really got us. I don't want, and I know they're not great, but I've said it repeatedly, I don't want a Caleb Evans playing against the Packers because of the way they play.
00:41:17
Speaker 2: That could be a complete disaster. I don't like, is a Packers offense more dangerous than what we just faced, though? I feel like that could be a Caleb Evans biggest test that just happened. Yeah, I mean, those receivers and that passing game. I don't want to test it out again, though. I think, yeah, I mean, I just think you're going to play, I mean, again, Caleb Evans should probably be replaced. Whether it's Corey Thornton, Shaw Smith-Wade, Marco Wilson, somebody. You know, I feel like he should severely lose his reps. Do we need to make some big trade? For four to six weeks, when I look at our opponents and say, we can play zone, we can try to do a better job of keeping stuff in front of us, because at Caleb Evans' bone, you don't have to do a lot. Keep stuff in front of you. This dude couldn't even keep stuff in front of him in our zones, man.
00:42:05
Speaker 3: We are asking the audience that question, courtesy of QC Mechanical, your local HVAC experts. Mac, any thoughts on, I'm looking at the practice squad list right now. The Bengals have a corner trick Weezy Bridges. Any thoughts on Trick Wheezy Bridges? Is that a real person, or did you make him up? No, Trick Wheezy Bridges. I'm not familiar with his game, Boney. Yeah, corner name Trick Wheezy, I'm all in.
00:42:27
Speaker 2: Not familiar with his game.
00:42:29
Speaker 3: I gotta be honest, Mac, I don't recognize a whole lot of names on these practice squad lists right now.
00:42:34
Speaker 2: People are, we gotta clean it up again, Boney. I still had Dante Jackson on the Steelers earlier. No, he's in San Diego now. I meant Chargers. Not San Diego. That's on me, baby. Clean it up, Vinny. Are you not on board? Los Angeles. Yeah, you messed it up, too. Are you not on board, Bone, with the Dante Jackson reunion? I mean, I guess it's fine.
00:42:54
Speaker 3: I was reading an article that he had one of his best years last year. So he's not far removed from that. So, yeah, I mean, I don't know what he would cost. Yeah, I mean, again, that's fine. That might be the level that we're looking at here. So I have no problem with that. Yeah, I mean, it doesn't excite me. I'm not going to act like it excites me. I mean, this coaching regime. None of the names are really, like, breathtaking and exciting.
00:43:17
Speaker 2: This coaching regime likes physical corners that come up and hit
you. and play a role in the, in the, in the run game too. And I'm not necessarily sure he's going to do that. This regime also likes very tall corners. We talked about that earlier. This just in Dante Jackson is about 50s height. So I just, I don't know if I love that idea, but I definitely think, and maybe Marco Wilson is the guy, maybe the shoe thrower bone is their answer to it for the, for the mean, for the, I think it would be different bone. If those guys were out for the year, If those guys were out for the year, I think I'd be on here saying, Dan Morgan, you've got to literally give up day two picks and get a dude that can play. I don't feel quite that way.
00:43:58
Speaker 3: Eagles have a DB, a corner on the practice squad named Robert Longerbeam. Are you a Longerbeam guy?
00:44:04
Speaker 2: What are you putting together, an all-corner name team over there? Major Burns is out there. So let's see here. Tredavious White, Marshawn Lattimore are available. Those dudes are old.
00:44:23
Speaker 3: We also have our own practice squad guy. He's young, but we've got Devontae Smith also at corner on the practice squad from Notre Dame.
00:44:30
Speaker 2: More of a slot, kind of a slot guy. Yeah, that's true. But I don't know. I mean, I don't know. I would put him down below the names we've been saying on our squad, but I don't know. I don't know. We'll have to see.
00:44:43
Speaker 3: I'm sure the Panthers are listening intently of our practice squad suggestions.
00:44:47
Speaker 2: They take this to heart. I think we can manage. I think we can manage and win the NFC South if we don't make a move. But I'm definitely thinking corner is the position you might want. to look into. And I'm sure Dan is, and maybe Marco Wilson is his answer for right now.
00:45:02
Speaker 3: Trayvon Diggs is on Seattle's practice squad, a guy that's experienced. I know he struggled at the end of the Cowboys run, but again, you're not going to get someone playing high level of great football. So could he hold it down for a couple of weeks? That's an interesting name. I do think our pass rush is better than last year. Now, again, I'm not saying it's lighting the world on fire.
00:45:22
Speaker 2: We're like 22nd in pressure percentage and we were dead last last year. I think it's better. And I also think the obvious one is our offense scores more points this year. So, you know what I'm saying? Like a game like the other day, you give up 26 points. I'm getting the feeling, Bone, that's going to win a lot of games, the way our offense is playing, you know?
00:45:40
Speaker 3: Texter said we already have major burns. His name is Caleb Evans.
00:45:42
Speaker 2: That's not nice. Stop that right now. Damn, that's funny right there. Did you see the Texter talking about T-Mac? How nice. Mac is right. T-Mac is a great guy. Such a great guy that if somebody stopped in the middle of the street to let an old lady pass, he wouldn't bitch about it the next day. Touche. I'm definitely not as nice as T-Mac.
00:46:04
Speaker 3: Someone's claiming to be that old lady's husband wanting a piece of Mac right now.
00:46:09
Speaker 2: Oh, man. When we come.
00:46:10
Speaker 3: Sounds like a Larry David scene where Mac's not going to have to cross the street and get run over by this old lady. When we come back, Jones Angel, Tar Heel Radio Network, talks about the Notre Dame loss and the chances of the Heels against Pittsburgh.
00:46:21
Speaker 2: Sports Radio, 92.7 WFNZ.