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Speaker 1: Welcome to a meeting of the minds, crafted from decades of talk show experience. An extension of the magic they've created together on radio. In the phenomenon called M & M. Hot topics in the news and wisdom from life. It's Mark Davis and Mike Gallagher. This is M & M Extra.
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Speaker 2: M & M Extra. Hey, everybody. Come on in. Half the hosts, twice the excitement. It is Friday. It is the sixth day of November, and welcome to M. Yesterday was also M, as in Mike, because Mike did it because I was doing a lunchtime speaking engagement, and it was awesome. Today it's M, as in Mark, because Mike is doing a wonderful, wonderful thing. Having completed his radio show out in Los Angeles, he is at the memorial service for a wonderful radio icon, a veteran broadcaster named Mike Horn. You know his daughter, Jennifer, does a lot of filling out on the West Coast for us in our Southern California stations and across the various platforms of Salem Network shows where I do a lot of my fill-in work as well. But Mike Horn was just a great, great, great guy and an amazing figure in our industry. And Mike is at that level. memorial service as we speak. So, hey, you and I are kicking it together on this Friday to wrap up this week. So, hey, what do you want to talk about? Did you get the license number of that truck? Everything we do, of course, every day here on M & M Extra brought to you by our folks at Preborn, our title sponsor. You can stand for life today. by joining us in providing ultrasounds to girls and women. We will double the likelihood she will choose life. Just call 833-850-BABY, 833-850-BABY, or go to preborn.com slash MMExtra. And we thank you for that so very, very much. Mike and I both thank you. I don't speak for him and he's not here, except when I'm absolutely certain that I can do so with authority. We are, if it's possible... more grateful than we ordinarily usually would be to have your listenership and your input in what are going to be podcasts, radio broadcasts and everything we do that I think actually just got more important. Important is a weird word. Here's what I mean. If let's say that we had had an amazing pleasant surprise on, Oh, would that that were true? An amazing pleasant surprise on Tuesday and, even to the extent of not losing the House by as much, keeping the Senate, et cetera, et cetera. Let's say Texas was still a red state. Oh, dare we dream. Our path forward would have been as vital as ever, as important as ever, as enjoyable as ever, as inspiring as ever. But now, faced with this, man, we got work to do. I mean, those of us in conservative media, And I mean those of you, no matter what you are doing. Because here in my state of Texas, we have a state to save. In Florida, where Mike lives, well, well, well, look at you. Ashley Booty winning for the Senate. Byron Donald winning for governor. And the Ron DeSantis victory lap. Ooh, mama. There is quite the Ron DeSantis swoon going on for these
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last few days. engaged in most notably by Ron DeSantis. I mean, I think I saw him on the home and garden TV. He's absolutely everywhere.
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Speaker 1: And why not?
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Speaker 2: And why not? Because I sit here in Texas with everybody just shell shocked and our entire power structure being swept out like dust. There he is in a still red Florida. And I think his leadership is a lot of why. They proved themselves immune, well, not immune, resistant to what grabbed a hold of my state, grabbed a hold of Kansas, grabbed a hold of South Carolina. A lot of things happened, but there's some things that did not happen. Let's talk about what did not happen on Tuesday. The over analysis has been a little bit comical. This was not on the national scene, much as some people will try to paint it as such a broad rebuke of everything Trump has ever done. America did not decide suddenly they would like to open the borders or that there are indeed 27 genders or, you know, no, this was about prices. But gas prices, which means everything prices, because when fuel goes up, everything goes up, as we have painfully learned. And ultimately, that means that the catalyst was the war. The decision made by President Trump at the end of, what was it, February, to take action to keep Iran from becoming a nuclear weaponry power, and I thank God for that decision every day, really do. Gee, Mark, even with the result that it yielded this past Tuesday. Okay. All right, let's think about that. Let's make a time machine. Let's go back. It's February. President Trump says, I've looked at this. We're going to let it ride. We're not going to do any kind of action toward Iran. Gas stays at 235 a gallon. Yay. But then in April, a nuke hits Paris. Time to go after the infidels. We've allowed them to become a nuclear power. And hey, what the heck? How about Los Angeles? nuclear weaponry from iran hitting us hitting our allies to say nothing of israel they probably would have been first you happy then i know that seems like a binary choice but it is a binary choice which one do you want uh you enjoy that cheap gas while iran is a nuclear power this is what president trump wanted to forestall it's what he wanted to prevent and then he has Now, I can't sit here and tell you that I magically know that, you know, we just prevented a nuke from hitting somewhere in Europe. I don't know. But I don't know that we didn't. And I'm grateful. I just didn't have enough company, clearly, because for many and I don't beat on people for this. I don't blame them for this. Four dollar gas is a bitch.
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Speaker 1: I know. I know.
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Speaker 2: I know. I know. And as Jane Carville famously said, it's the economy, stupid. And it often is. And that ate up all the oxygen. The midterms are always a referendum on whoever's in power, who's in power. We are. Republicans are. Trump is. And all the things that Trump can say, all the things Republicans can say, all the things that I often said,
Mike always says, hey, you like those fixed borders? Hey, you like those reduction in crime levels? That's because grownups are in charge. We're actually prosecuting people. We're actually preventing lawbreakers from coming into the country. We're getting rid of the ones we find. Hey, you like that gender sanity? We're not even putting pronouns in the bio anymore. We fixed that. We got rid of all that garbage. Isn't that worth something? Yeah, it's worth something. But it didn't make 450 gas okay. It didn't make expensive everything okay. People were in a mood to deliver a message and deliver a massive middle finger, and boy, they did. Which means, quite frankly, that it was pretty unavoidable because there is no time machine. The war is in progress. I don't know when it ends. I hope soon. What does that involve? Finish the job. What does that even mean? We'll talk about that here in a little bit. But since the war is in progress and the president made the decision to prosecute this war, there's no explaining this more than had already been done. You know, that, hey, okay, we hope that the higher gas prices and the spike in inflation, we hope it's worth it because we're safer. Middle East is safer. whole world is safer because iran is not a nuclear power that's why we did that so we hope you're we hope this is worth it to you this is a short-term thing for an enormously long-term benefit so we hope you're good with that well uh they weren't to say the least people were not and you can call them short-sighted myopic and you know just or you can call them human It's 450 gas, man. It's a bear. And people vote with their pocketbooks. And boy, did they. Boy, did they.
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Speaker 1: In droves.
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Speaker 2: And here in Texas and in many other states, as long as all those people were flooding in to deliver this national message, kind of a global message, really, as long as they were in there, they said, oh, might as well take out all the other Republicans on the ballot as well. That's how Darlene loses, other than being a terrible candidate. That's how Governor Abbott, Lieutenant Governor Patrick, the entire Texas power structure. Now, we just still have a Republican Senate in Austin, thank God, as a backstop against all the bad ideas coming our way. And nationally, President Trump will still be there, President Vito, as a backstop against anything terrible that the Democrat Congress will throw his way. So those are the silver linings. That's how it happened as I see it. I mean, some things are kind of complicated and there are some complexities here. Other things are really pretty simple. People voted their pocketbooks and expensive gas did it. Expensive everything did it. That means the war did it. Boy, that J.D. Vance missive that he fired off, was it disloyal? I don't really think so. It was awkward. Next cabinet meeting is going to be interesting. the next private meeting in the Oval Office, President Trump himself admitted that the war, you know, took us down. But he still had an asterisk attached to it that said, you know, it was worth it. I understand, but it was worth it. I'm going to show you it was worth it. Seemed like J.D., it's not like he said it was not worth it, but he said, you know, I wonder about J.D. 's fidelity to the war cause. And I also wonder about J.D. and Israel. Has he been hanging out with Tucker a little too much or anybody else in the Israel-hesitant wing of the Republican Party or listening too much to the outright anti-Semitic slice of the Democrat Party? So I think I've made my case. The coming weeks, the coming months, the coming couple of years just got much more interesting. But American history is always interesting, isn't it? Has been for 250 years, really more, because our history starts before our birth. And Our American Stories by Mike's and my friend Lee Habib is just this wonderful podcast. It's Our American Stories. The website is ouramericanstories.com. And you go there, click the Join button. You get a wonderful newsletter every week. get an opportunity to join this growing brand of American storytelling. And what Lee does is he educates, enlightens, entertains with all these stories of great Americans through the years, politics, people, sure, but sports people, arts people, entrepreneur people, all kinds of people, the people that have made America great. It is indeed Our American Stories. So check it out, ouramericanstories.com to learn more. And it's just a wonderful, wonderful thing to hear American history in the hands of people people who actually admire the country. So it's OurAmericanStories.com and find every episode you can after you listen to us, maybe even before you listen to us, just so you listen to both of us at OurAmericanStories.com. Speaking of things that are great, MyPillow. Listen, thanks to you, the MyPillow brand. Mike's been talking about them for years. I've been using them for years. It's a bigger brand than ever. To show their appreciation, they are bringing you some amazing offers. Got one right here. Let me share it with you. When you buy a premium MyPillow, you're going to get a second premium MyPillow for nothing. And for the first time ever, when you buy a six-piece MyPillow towel set, they just sent me the towels. I am a towel snob. Don't give me any Kleenex week-old towels.
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going to be in a president. Well, presidential race. Guess what? Presidential race. Check your watches. It just started. It just it is totally I is J.D. Vance's post. Maybe him creating just a little window of space between him and Trump to grease the wheels of his own presidential run.
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Speaker 1: Oh, no.
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Speaker 2: And it's weird because he's still Trump's vice president. There are a lot of people who have been in that kind of situation. Bush 41, he's Reagan's vice president, but he wants to get out there and be his own man and run in 1988, which he did successfully. Al Gore, you know, is his vice president and gets out and runs. That did not work out so well, thank God. But if you are the sitting vice president, your job is to be loyal and to be walking in step, one presumes. with the actual president whom you serve. But if you're trying to get out there and you have every right to get out there and say, look, when I'm president, I might do things a little differently. Well, bless her heart, Kamala, I was in the process of forgetting she was ever born. But, you know, what are you going to do differently if you're a president? You get to do that up to a point, but it is a little bit limiting if you're a sitting vice president to get out there and say, hey, here are the many things I'm going to do differently than the guy who who I'm sitting here in the same White House serving with. So that'll be interesting. And J.D. will face that as an interesting challenge. Will we get a Rubio candidacy? I really hope so, because I just love Rubio. And then there's DeSantis. This is going to be cut number two, kids. Let's fire this up. Ron DeSantis has had a lot to say. He referred to Texas as a near extinction level event. it's, it's, it's a remarkable thing that Ron DeSantis ran, ran up into the Trump buzzsaw. He ran against Trump, which I don't want to say it wasn't smart, but it didn't work out well, but because nobody had any, anything against DeSantis, but he ran against Trump and that looked, it just, it was like bad etiquette in a weird way. And it'd be MAGA etiquette book. Thou shalt not run against Trump like ever. And so a lot of there might be still some people who have some healthy gripes about that. I'll say, you know, I don't think there are many. But now I think there's going to be an appetite maybe for DeSantis. From some folks who want an America first leader that has a kind of a MAGA flavor to it, but is different in certain ways, maybe stylistically, maybe less populism.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Maybe less Israel hesitancy. I mean, Vance will bring some Israel hesitancy. DeSantis may bring more of a Trump-style Israel support than Vance would. So let's listen to Brother DeSantis here for a minute here. And this is it's easy to do and it's easy to kick people when they're down. What was the problem with this candidate? What was the problem with that candidate? I believe this is Ron talking about Ohio.
Lord knows he talked about Texas enough and he was right. Let's see if we think he's right talking about Ohio, the whole Vivek thing, that ad that Vivek ran. I didn't have that much of a problem with it. It made me cringe a little bit. Amy Acton's weird mother talking about how weird Amy is, his bad blood in the family. Do you air that dirty laundry? But here might be the 48th president of the United States, Ron DeSantis.
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Speaker 1: Ohio governor.
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Speaker 3: I mean, how bad did did they beat Vivek.
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Speaker 1: Like a drum?
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Speaker 3: Now, part of that was Vivek, quite frankly. I don't know why they would have pushed him to be the candidate there. Oh, my mom's from Youngstown. Ohio is a working class state. Very blue collar. You know, Vivek, he's like a tech guy. He did this Alzheimer's and he wants to bring in people, foreign worker on visas. That is not the type of person that's going to sell. And I know he shot himself in the foot. I know he did a lot of other stuff to make it a real landslide against him. But even with that, it's like, you know, you've got to meet the voters where they are on some of this stuff. I think we would have done better in Ohio had we had a candidate that was more representative or more in tune with the interests of kind of these blue collar people that make the backbone of Ohio. But they got blown out there. And so the shift in Florida was about half the shift.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. And there's a lot of comparison of a Florida. Ron is the he's the alpha. He's the alpha dog now, man. You know, Ohio is flip. Texas is flip. Here we are. Here we are in Florida. Still, still, still a red state. There was DeSantis hanging out there with Sage Steele. So does this automatically make him the nominee in twenty twenty eight?
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Speaker 3: No.
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Speaker 2: Although Mike thinks so. He's right. Don't mess with Nostradamus. Trust me. I thought the Nostradamus tire tracks over top of me when I said, Mike, I don't know about that prediction. Yeah. So but I am going to suggest that we let the game come to us, as I'm so fond of saying and see, you know, it's going to depend on twenty twenty eight. This is 2026 is going to wrap up. 2027 is going to be a fascinating year. You think we'll be doing it all together on our respective radio shows and here on M & M Extra. Thanks for hanging out with us. What will happen to the MAGA brand? What kind of job will President Trump do in? He's the fighter, right? He is eternally the fighter. Well, he's going to have some fighting to do now, isn't he? You think? Democrat House, Democrat Senate. We may get Trump at his very best, focused like a laser. I don't think he's going to be dicking around with the ballroom and the reflecting pool as much as he, sorry, I mean, I get really comfortable. It's like hanging out with me at the house. And again, he's not going to not become Trump anymore. We are going to get some reflecting pool. He's going
to love on that ballroom. Of course he is. It's part of what he is. We're going to we're going to rename some more stuff, I'm sure, before he's done. But there might be something about having a Democrat House and a Democrat Senate that really gives him some laser focus that could be beneficial to the brand. I think I want Jim Jordan to be a House minority leader. It makes me sad to say House minority leader. I love Steve Scalise, but I think I want Jim Jordan in that post. You want some fighting? There's going to be some fighting. He's going to take that jacket off and appear without it on cable channels all the live long day. So it is always historically said that Republicans are better on the outside, that we're better when we're out of power than we are when we're in power. Well, here's our latest chance to prove that. So speaking of being in power, though, The list just grows. What could we have done? What should we have done? And I think my answer is nothing. The prices in the war were going to kill us no matter what. We might have could have passed the SAVE Act and still got beat. In fact, you know what? I think I'm going to go with that. It would have been closer because there would have been a lot more Republicans who said, yeah, we passed the SAVE Act. Yeah. But then there would have been a bunch of people going 450 gas. Screw you. Bam. So. Promises. Mike's talked a lot about promises on his show, and I have too. What's perceived as a broken promise. President Trump said, we're going to have a good economy. I'm going to bring prices down. And he also said, we're not going to get messed around in a lot of foreign war entanglements. Whoops, times two. He has good reasons. I accept those reasons. But still, at a very surface level, and a lot of people look at things at a very surface level, especially when it's the surface of their kitchen table that they're sitting around trying to make ends meet. When gas is 450, have I mentioned that that's what killed us? No. it struck people as when politicians say they're going to do things, we are now outright part of Trump's power, part of his, you know, superpower, part of his appeal, continuing appeal, you know, whatever's left of it. And it's a lot, it's a lot, it's a lot. Is that he, there were things he said he was going to do and he did them. We go into shock when people do that. What he promised it and actually did it, dude. But with this chapter, it just looks like another, Another politician saying he was going to do something and then not doing it. And that's unfair. What did your dad always tell you? Life's unfair. So there we are. So there we are. And there's still a lot of turf left to pound in the remaining two years of this Trump presidency. And you go about pounding the turf of your day through the holidays. Here we go. Holidays are among us. And relief factor is going to leave you more holiday ready. How? 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Did for a bunch of people whose testimonials we share with you all the time. ReliefFactor.com or 1-800-4-RELIEF. ReliefFactor.com, 1-800-4-RELIEF. The election did not go our way. Does that mean that it's harder to be pro-life or that the pro-life cause has taken it on the chin? I don't know. I like when pro-life people are in power. We have fewer of those now. So that means it's more incumbent on us to sort of ratchet up our pro-lifeness and do more. Because honestly, what you and I do is always more important than what government does. A woman deciding to choose life, a woman deciding not to have an abortion, the power of that is greater than any vote any legislator will ever cast. Let's help those women make that decision to choose life with ultrasounds. We're paying for ultrasounds. It's what Preborn does. Our title sponsor, Preborn. It's what they do. And it's what you can help them do because, as you know, nothing is free. It's always paid for by somebody else. 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He'll be back in his still red state of Florida. I'm green with envy. Red state of Florida, green with envy. It's feeling like Christmas. How did it be Christmas before you know it? Jeez, what is it, November 6th?
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Speaker 1: Voof.
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