Full Transcript for High Temps & Navigational Hazards, Tuna, Mahi, Flounder & Cobia

[SPEAKER_01]: It says whales, they got about 10 or 15, 20, the dolphin, a little chart, like a football chart when you get hits. 03:41.882 --> 03:45.565 [SPEAKER_01]: There's about 30, 30 dolphins on the bottom and the right underneath that guys. 03:45.945 --> 03:46.886 [SPEAKER_01]: There's four boats. 03:47.712 --> 04:10.917 [SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean that's how many boats they've taken out this year probably and that's how many boats they can afford to kill and keep these projects going guys and I mean that I don't want to I'm not I'm not here to dogdoing those I'm here to tear them apart guys I'm over it man they almost killed us in my crew the other day can you guys imagine calling on your radio on channel 16 saying hey can I get between you and the beach and they don't nobody replies hey well then you see you you don't say it like that either you say 04:11.717 --> 04:13.998 [SPEAKER_01]: You say, just like this, he's saying, good morning. 04:14.058 --> 04:16.459 [SPEAKER_01]: This is officially best of a plan of key. 04:16.759 --> 04:18.420 [SPEAKER_01]: We are one mile off of Crow 10. 04:18.460 --> 04:23.902 [SPEAKER_01]: We are calling the window, cable vet, less of the cable laying vessel off of Rudy and let. 04:24.483 --> 04:27.244 [SPEAKER_01]: We have a lot of boats heading out here to the south this morning. 04:27.264 --> 04:30.685 [SPEAKER_01]: And we were wondering if we can head to the south or how far we have to come up to the beach. 04:30.785 --> 04:35.528 [SPEAKER_01]: Are we able, and I said, clear as day, are we able to go between you and the beach? 04:36.128 --> 04:38.389 [SPEAKER_01]: Work vessel, and the work vessel doesn't answer. 04:39.841 --> 04:40.902 [SPEAKER_01]: in safety station. 04:41.362 --> 04:42.163 [SPEAKER_01]: This is in the first time. 04:42.183 --> 04:44.304 [SPEAKER_01]: We've got plenty of recordings of it in the audience. 04:45.165 --> 04:54.011 [SPEAKER_01]: But this is the time after we've called and called and called and talked to Ron Larson the liaison and it's going to get everything straightened out after we keep calling out the movies. 04:54.051 --> 04:56.893 [SPEAKER_01]: The rule is call out which movies aren't lit and we'll help you. 04:56.913 --> 04:57.454 [SPEAKER_01]: That's the rule. 04:57.554 --> 04:59.996 [SPEAKER_01]: Not we'll go fix it or find our movies that aren't lit. 05:00.076 --> 05:00.896 [SPEAKER_01]: No, you tell them. 05:00.916 --> 05:01.697 [SPEAKER_03]: So they're leaving. 05:02.077 --> 05:02.938 [SPEAKER_01]: They're leaving unlit. 05:02.958 --> 05:04.299 [SPEAKER_01]: They're leaving unlit stuff out there. 05:04.579 --> 05:05.940 [SPEAKER_01]: This has been going on for you. 05:06.280 --> 05:10.966 [SPEAKER_01]: All right, no, look, no, look, no, look, you picture a giant billion dollar vessel. 05:11.426 --> 05:13.089 [SPEAKER_01]: Now, they got a half mile in every direction. 05:13.109 --> 05:14.791 [SPEAKER_01]: They've got these anchor booze. 05:14.831 --> 05:21.239 [SPEAKER_01]: Now, these anchor plastic anchor booze, they're the size of a blue recycling trash can, okay? 05:21.659 --> 05:23.481 [SPEAKER_01]: Square, huge squares. 05:24.162 --> 05:32.392 [SPEAKER_01]: with robes and all that crap hanging from them in the chain going down to the bottom so they can throw out a huge cable all the way to this anchor to hold this boat so they got them all out. 05:32.772 --> 05:36.617 [SPEAKER_01]: Now throughout the last two or three years we've went out there and they have not been lit. 05:36.637 --> 05:37.578 [SPEAKER_01]: They have not been lit. 05:37.598 --> 05:38.339 [SPEAKER_01]: You're getting closer. 05:38.639 --> 05:39.260 [SPEAKER_01]: You're on a line. 05:39.280 --> 05:39.880 [SPEAKER_01]: You got waves. 05:39.900 --> 05:40.801 [SPEAKER_01]: You got charter guests. 05:41.602 --> 05:54.806 [SPEAKER_01]: Six different times if we almost hit something unlit out there that you don't see on radar that you don't see on with lights at all And after you finally tell them that you almost died these many times you say which and they say where where are they? 05:55.366 --> 05:57.847 [SPEAKER_01]: We'll try to get them lit and type until they're supposed to be lit. 05:57.867 --> 05:58.107 [SPEAKER_01]: All right. 05:58.127 --> 05:58.927 [SPEAKER_01]: They're supposed to be lit. 05:58.947 --> 05:59.347 [SPEAKER_01]: They tell us 06:00.027 --> 06:05.968 [SPEAKER_01]: And then and then so on said they don't even have to be lit on one of the vessels one day back to us after they after they came out Us one day. 06:06.308 --> 06:08.869 [SPEAKER_01]: So we've had a bunch of issues with these window boats. 06:08.909 --> 06:26.932 [SPEAKER_01]: We personally have we feel like they're in our home area They're they're they're they're in a haste to make a lot of money really quick and They don't really care about the boats in the area They don't monitor they didn't figure out the station to monitor to like two and a half years into it We're the first year they knew it was 79 and then jump they just forget it was and you they don't have any way 06:30.174 --> 06:34.240 [SPEAKER_01]: They end up having a workboat near the Rudy and let area for a good while as I see it every day. 06:34.441 --> 06:35.202 [SPEAKER_01]: I know their positions. 06:35.242 --> 06:35.823 [SPEAKER_01]: I know the moves. 06:35.843 --> 06:36.824 [SPEAKER_01]: I know where they space them out. 06:36.844 --> 06:37.706 [SPEAKER_01]: I know which ones aren't lit. 06:37.966 --> 06:38.947 [SPEAKER_01]: I know how many aren't lit. 06:39.669 --> 06:40.390 [SPEAKER_01]: And I call them in. 06:40.430 --> 06:41.191 [SPEAKER_01]: I talk to Ron. 06:41.705 --> 07:09.908 [SPEAKER_01]: about it all the time they're going to do something about it is we'll keep getting told and all that type of stuff and then you know and when it comes to it's cause I hate to take any more time but I will tell you this they had this metal can out there sitting there and they

literally had the audacity to tell us that the reason it wasn't lit in the winter is because the days were too short in the winter and it wasn't getting enough light so you're telling me you have a $2 billion ship out there you've got this huge trillion dollar project and you don't know that the days get shorter and in December 07:10.629 --> 07:11.569 [SPEAKER_01]: than they do in the summer. 07:11.609 --> 07:12.390 [SPEAKER_01]: Are you telling me that? 07:12.490 --> 07:13.870 [SPEAKER_03]: No, so in other words, not enough days. 07:13.910 --> 07:14.731 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, not enough days. 07:14.791 --> 07:17.252 [SPEAKER_03]: All our solar power for it to run overnight. 07:17.552 --> 07:19.272 [SPEAKER_01]: So, okay, this has been going on. 07:19.513 --> 07:21.153 [SPEAKER_01]: And I feel like I'm not just a person. 07:21.193 --> 07:23.474 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm a liaison for the whole area as well. 07:23.534 --> 07:25.955 [SPEAKER_01]: He's the, he's the public liaison to talk between us. 07:26.275 --> 07:27.776 [SPEAKER_01]: But I'm the guy who talks to the chargers. 07:27.816 --> 07:28.956 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm the guy who does the podcast. 07:28.996 --> 07:31.597 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm the guy who cares about this area and goes to the meetings and fights force. 07:32.078 --> 07:35.119 [SPEAKER_01]: So it's something if something does happen to anybody besides me already. 07:35.779 --> 07:36.039 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 07:36.059 --> 07:37.420 [SPEAKER_01]: For sure, I'm going to feel terrible. 07:37.640 --> 07:39.122 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, something happened to us guys. 07:39.562 --> 07:40.403 [SPEAKER_01]: And that's the problem. 07:41.023 --> 07:41.964 [SPEAKER_01]: It's something happened to us. 07:42.004 --> 07:43.985 [SPEAKER_01]: Can we get through the can we get through you in the beach? 07:44.466 --> 07:48.809 [SPEAKER_01]: They finally come back and they say, yes, you know they say, yes, they say, you should be fine. 07:49.289 --> 07:50.650 [SPEAKER_01]: You should be fine to go through. 07:50.710 --> 07:51.671 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, you should be fine. 07:51.691 --> 07:52.472 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you should be fine. 07:52.492 --> 07:53.452 [SPEAKER_01]: All multiple does a champ. 07:53.472 --> 07:53.893 [SPEAKER_01]: But I say, hey, 07:54.778 --> 07:59.961 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, your transmission wasn't the clearest, but I just want to double check that these yellow things I'm going to be able to go between you and the beach. 08:00.441 --> 08:01.502 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you should be fine. 08:02.042 --> 08:04.404 [SPEAKER_01]: We got rust costiness on my left. 08:04.424 --> 08:07.045 [SPEAKER_01]: I got David's right on my left and I slowly, we're all going the same place. 08:07.085 --> 08:09.047 [SPEAKER_01]: I slowly, if you're away, just to make some space. 08:09.547 --> 08:12.649 [SPEAKER_01]: I take my right and I've been out of these areas marked for where they've been working. 08:13.367 --> 08:14.368 [SPEAKER_01]: Right. 08:14.728 --> 08:19.611 [SPEAKER_01]: And now the last thing I'll say is they had this, you know, one of these nice big ships is the billion dollar one. 08:19.631 --> 08:26.136 [SPEAKER_01]: They had a, one of their giant ships, other cable stretching and they had these bullies all laid by them and every time they moved the ship, they moved the bullies every time. 08:26.196 --> 08:28.537 [SPEAKER_01]: So far, this whole time, they've been moving the ship, moving the bullies. 08:28.957 --> 08:30.859 [SPEAKER_01]: But this time they got lazy and left all the bullies. 08:31.159 --> 08:36.763 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I would just leave them all and they're all staggered around kind of in a line, kind of not up to two miles off the beach. 08:37.403 --> 08:38.944 [SPEAKER_01]: Some days, you can go through them. 08:39.224 --> 08:49.590 [SPEAKER_01]: The other days, you go through them with your charter and they steam right at you and flick you off and you got to tell the liaison and they say, yeah, they were doing some surveys and they thought, and I was like, dude, we went through it that morning. 08:50.030 --> 08:53.352 [SPEAKER_01]: They got to call us on our station and we'll come up and flick my charter off, you know? 08:53.392 --> 08:53.592 [SPEAKER_01]: Right. 08:54.012 --> 08:57.574 [SPEAKER_01]: So I've had issues, you know what I mean back and forth and then here happens. 08:57.654 --> 09:05.679 [SPEAKER_01]: I asked twice on the radio, I get clearance two times on the radio, which is recorded by the Coast Guard and I will be freedom of information acting. 09:06.559 --> 09:07.860 [SPEAKER_01]: And they said, yeah, you're good to go. 09:08.300 --> 09:16.124 [SPEAKER_01]: And then at 28 miles an hour with radar on zoomed all the way looking out of the bow boom, we hit something full blast boof. 09:16.285 --> 09:21.948 [SPEAKER_01]: I hit something so hard made a made a made a made a hit the boom hit the back to the city so sparks can fly off the back. 09:22.648 --> 09:24.569 [SPEAKER_01]: Made a made a made a made a get on the radio. 09:24.589 --> 09:25.730 [SPEAKER_01]: I was like, made a made a plan. 09:26.210 --> 09:26.550 [SPEAKER_01]: position. 09:26.571 --> 09:27.412 [SPEAKER_01]: We just hit an object. 09:27.432 --> 09:28.173 [SPEAKER_01]: We just hit an object. 09:28.453 --> 09:30.075 [SPEAKER_01]: And like then they're trying to say, what do we hit? 09:30.456 --> 09:33.339 [SPEAKER_01]: Everybody turns around and there's booze is sitting right there. 09:33.379 --> 09:36.523 [SPEAKER_01]: Three of them at a big mess of a pile, not lit. 09:36.563 --> 09:36.944 [SPEAKER_01]: None of them. 09:37.044 --> 09:39.707 [SPEAKER_01]: One of them is like a foot underwater, light flashing. 09:40.168 --> 09:41.530 [SPEAKER_01]: And the other ones are not a lit at all. 09:41.550 --> 09:43.693 [SPEAKER_01]: We got it all on video. 09:44.179 --> 09:46.380 [SPEAKER_01]: This is a great how because they covered it up that day. 09:46.420 --> 10:04.867 [SPEAKER_01]: They moved

everything around and they shuffled it around the next day and they put a boat on station and what do you know there's a boat on station imagine that on a weekend you get clearance to go through full blast and you'll and then boom so we get a knock and I'm like oh that you know bang first thing you think is I just cracked the hole in my boat 10:05.387 --> 10:08.068 [SPEAKER_01]: Whatever I get that hard that fast, we're going down. 10:08.389 --> 10:10.169 [SPEAKER_01]: I instantly swing the boat to the south. 10:10.630 --> 10:13.151 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going back to the barn and I'm going to get on the reddit. 10:13.171 --> 10:14.672 [SPEAKER_01]: Why did you tell me we could go through there? 10:14.992 --> 10:18.074 [SPEAKER_01]: He's a guy who knows, he almost explodes up the beach and makes a bunch of excuses. 10:18.554 --> 10:20.295 [SPEAKER_01]: I said, get off my radio, I'm calling the Coast Guard. 10:20.655 --> 10:21.755 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not arguing with you anymore. 10:21.775 --> 10:23.456 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, I'm not going to have it back in Fort Fitchie, bro. 10:23.556 --> 10:24.537 [SPEAKER_01]: And I get on the Coast Guard. 10:25.057 --> 10:26.098 [SPEAKER_01]: They're going to do this and do that. 10:26.118 --> 10:27.438 [SPEAKER_01]: They want to know what positions in this and that. 10:27.458 --> 10:28.699 [SPEAKER_01]: I said, well, I said, stand by. 10:29.139 --> 10:30.140 [SPEAKER_01]: I want to assess situation. 10:30.300 --> 10:30.480 [SPEAKER_01]: So. 10:31.992 --> 10:51.177 [SPEAKER_01]: I stand rust down to the bow and of course there's a half inch of water in the boat and I stick my finger in it and It's salt mix with not and I'm I just know I'm like, oh, and but I don't that I keep composure he freaks out a little bit, but I I know I know that I know I just know what I kind of know I'm I was like we got to do this is what we have to do. 10:51.837 --> 10:55.598 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, we don't even have the motors and gear yet because we don't know if they're even working or busted up yet. 10:56.358 --> 11:01.901 [SPEAKER_01]: So we literally, I get them to get a pale and a bucket in the sponge and we get all the water out of that that boat in the front. 11:03.262 --> 11:07.944 [SPEAKER_01]: And, and then I get a rag and I wipe a bone dry clean, where it's like you could lead off it. 11:08.005 --> 11:08.325 [SPEAKER_01]: Right. 11:08.385 --> 11:12.747 [SPEAKER_02]: And then we open the front where you, where we saw the water, where we saw the water, where we saw the water. 11:12.787 --> 11:13.808 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, just where we saw water. 11:14.348 --> 11:14.568 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 11:14.748 --> 11:15.809 [SPEAKER_01]: And we have water. 11:15.949 --> 11:19.631 [SPEAKER_01]: And then after it dries maybe five minutes or even three or five minutes, there's no water coming in there. 11:19.651 --> 11:20.291 [SPEAKER_01]: We're sponed dry. 11:20.351 --> 11:20.712 [SPEAKER_01]: We're good. 11:20.752 --> 11:21.172 [SPEAKER_01]: We're solid. 11:21.232 --> 11:22.773 [SPEAKER_01]: I go to the builds and back bone dry. 11:23.433 --> 11:29.519 [SPEAKER_01]: looking good, okay, I'm like, all right, I'm so I'm so I'm how to see he hawk ate it so then I go to say shout out, see how I'm 20 now. 11:29.539 --> 11:32.902 [SPEAKER_01]: I got some videos for y'all to post and thank you guys, we ate this thing. 11:32.982 --> 11:37.566 [SPEAKER_01]: And then my crew's completely just shattered, you know, they're thinking we're, you know, we're calling our families that day. 11:37.586 --> 11:41.550 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, we're swimming from two miles and getting every stop, they're doing to come to us and made a us up. 11:42.561 --> 11:59.361 [SPEAKER_01]: And the motors, the motors I put him in gear, they both ended up running and I put one gear and they both sound fine, they're props for good and I have a trip with people that are paying to go fishing that we have for business to conduct, you know, and they're out there doing the work in our area, not only are they going to hurt somebody who's not out through all the time, but they hurt somebody who needs it. 11:59.922 --> 12:02.225 [SPEAKER_01]: So I so I continued on with fishing. 12:03.212 --> 12:04.893 [SPEAKER_01]: We, I for two hours, I couldn't fish. 12:05.133 --> 12:05.994 [SPEAKER_01]: I literally couldn't do it. 12:06.054 --> 12:06.494 [SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean? 12:06.514 --> 12:12.278 [SPEAKER_01]: I was just in a zombie mode and I saw some dolphins one on the balcony hung out with them for a minute and got my composure and picked up my lungs. 12:12.298 --> 12:25.527 [SPEAKER_01]: I was bringing them in guys and I ran to the north and just gunned it to the north and I put them over with some fellas and got a fish on and they went to the little further the past them and then we got covered up again and got enough fish to go home and everybody was so happy was a triple-life time epic stuff. 12:26.128 --> 12:29.971 [SPEAKER_01]: And you know, talk to the Coast Guard after and between you and I, 12:30.691 --> 12:32.792 [SPEAKER_01]: The coast guard isn't very, it wasn't very quick at it. 12:32.812 --> 12:37.653 [SPEAKER_01]: They were, you know, the detective wasn't any $75,000 with damage or casually, so that was it for them. 12:38.334 --> 12:41.375 [SPEAKER_01]: And it referred me to the waterways division, referred me to them. 12:42.035 --> 12:43.516 [SPEAKER_01]: And they said they would call me on Monday. 12:43.736 --> 12:44.896 [SPEAKER_01]: They reached out to me Monday. 12:44.916 --> 12:45.576 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, nobody did. 12:45.776 --> 12:48.137 [SPEAKER_01]: I had a four or four days in a row off shore, couldn't talk to them. 12:48.917 --> 12:50.038 [SPEAKER_01]: And it turned to turn them in. 12:50.078 --> 12:51.238 [SPEAKER_01]: We can't do all that other stuff. 12:51.258 --> 12:52.139 [SPEAKER_01]: And I call them Monday. 12:52.179 --> 12:56.020 [SPEAKER_01]: And they finally, oh, yeah, I thought we

were waiting on you to send us an email or some kind of just an out of my chat. 12:56.460 --> 12:57.340 [SPEAKER_01]: To who my email? 12:57.380 --> 12:58.801 [SPEAKER_01]: I was using them and talking to me at it all. 12:59.460 --> 13:10.471 [SPEAKER_01]: So that wasn't very very, it wasn't very comforting that for a 25 dollar permit, I can get a $2,000 fine from not having this zone out of 17 out of 19 permits or whatever I get I get this. 13:10.491 --> 13:17.418 [SPEAKER_01]: But, but you got these billion dollar companies out here to know what's kill people and it takes me weeks to get in charge of somebody to say, hey, light up to buoys. 13:18.018 --> 13:18.599 [SPEAKER_01]: Light of love. 13:18.639 --> 13:19.580 [SPEAKER_01]: Here's what they're not doing. 13:19.620 --> 13:20.420 [SPEAKER_01]: Here's reports of it. 13:20.440 --> 13:27.967 [SPEAKER_01]: Here's text emails tons of response correspondence back and forth trying to save us to begin with and that's what we want there. 13:27.987 --> 13:32.531 [SPEAKER_01]: So anybody who thinks we've faked it that day and faking it in the belly, we didn't. 13:33.112 --> 13:35.554 [SPEAKER_01]: Anybody you heard us get hailed in and stuff like that. 13:36.194 --> 13:36.675 [SPEAKER_01]: We're good. 13:37.320 --> 13:38.101 [SPEAKER_01]: Everything's fine. 13:38.241 --> 13:45.985 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, we were lucky to have some great guys taking taking up what us talking with us, keeping in touch with us, David Wright, Castro out. 13:46.005 --> 13:51.268 [SPEAKER_01]: There was a lot of guys out there caring about us and they would not be like to be in a similar, similar situation. 13:51.288 --> 13:55.390 [SPEAKER_01]: They're very upset because they've been tired and tired of seeing these buoys on lid. 13:55.671 --> 13:55.991 [SPEAKER_01]: Who? 13:56.911 --> 13:57.352 [SPEAKER_01]: How? 13:57.552 --> 14:01.794 [SPEAKER_01]: And how can you work somewhere and leave a buoy on the water 14:06.797 --> 14:08.619 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how they can do it. 14:08.919 --> 14:10.600 [SPEAKER_03]: It's like my worst nightmare. 14:10.640 --> 14:17.326 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, a few times that I've gone offshore, especially the winter time, and left early in the morning where you're driving in the dark by radar. 14:17.867 --> 14:20.349 [SPEAKER_03]: It is, and I think anybody that's done it can relate. 14:20.449 --> 14:22.210 [SPEAKER_03]: It's butt puckering. 14:23.091 --> 14:31.295 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, anxiety until that sun cracks and comes up like driving by instrument only is terrifying and you rely on lights on buoys. 14:31.315 --> 14:40.759 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, even when you see another boat and you see their anchor light or their navigation lights, you're still terrified until you really are confident of what your position is to them and what direction they're going. 14:40.799 --> 14:44.040 [SPEAKER_03]: So the fear of hitting an unknown object has always been there for me. 14:44.060 --> 14:48.202

[SPEAKER_03]: So I can't imagine what it would have been like for you guys to have that smack. 14:48.802 --> 14:50.664 [SPEAKER_03]: And that shutter. 14:50.764 --> 14:54.747 [SPEAKER_01]: The hardest part is, oh my god, we've been worrying about it and worrying about it. 14:54.767 --> 14:56.068 [SPEAKER_01]: We've already been worrying about it. 14:56.228 --> 14:56.869 [SPEAKER_01]: That's the worst part. 14:56.889 --> 14:59.091 [SPEAKER_01]: It's why I called twice and double check we could go through. 14:59.111 --> 14:59.931 [SPEAKER_03]: Right. 14:59.971 --> 15:08.058 [SPEAKER_01]: So all that's got to get brought back and brought up and all that stuff's got to get done and honestly and whatever finds they deserve, because they deserve them. 15:08.078 --> 15:10.260 [SPEAKER_01]: They would ever deserve, you know, who means that my mate? 15:10.780 --> 15:37.883 [SPEAKER_01]: the guy there got on this boat named break another boat name i'm not going to mention here but he's hit a boolean had some propeller rudder damage other things when there's unlit stuff and we've come up on them countless times we've even had a drone boat t-bonus had the mills dude t-bonus had probably seen those on the green one is green on manboat came to t-bonus and we said there's no way he's in a circle all the way around from this far away come right at us he's in a turn he's going to do anything there's a remote controlled by 15:39.056 --> 15:45.458 [SPEAKER_01]: and guess what, nope, he came right at us right directly at us and I had to literally yell at me. 15:45.498 --> 15:59.342 [SPEAKER_01]: No, yell at my charter real him up as we gunned it all away from this thing because I could not believe it was going to T-bone as I was sitting there, I went away from it on purpose, picked the basis too far through three away from it, but nope, it had to circle all the way back around drive by us. 15:59.542 --> 15:59.942 [SPEAKER_01]: Right, sir. 16:00.482 --> 16:09.725 [SPEAKER_01]: Nope, circle us, go around us, and then line up on a T-bone position perfectly, and then come at us full, you know, that speed, nobody driving a boat, man. 16:09.885 --> 16:13.606 [SPEAKER_01]: You know what we didn't see that thing after that after we called to the Coast Guard, we complained about that. 16:13.946 --> 16:18.067 [SPEAKER_01]: And once again, the Coast Guard was supposed to call us and follow up, and they did not. 16:19.140 --> 16:29.615 [SPEAKER_03]: I know from my personal experience calling the Coast Guard to reported incident that, you know, they've shared with me that they're 16:31.341 --> 16:35.585 [SPEAKER_03]: not as well resource, um, as other branches of the government. 16:35.745 --> 16:38.748 [SPEAKER_01]: And I don't know if that was what they were understaffed. 16:38.768 --> 16:39.288 [SPEAKER_01]: You're correct. 16:39.328 --> 16:39.649 [SPEAKER_01]: They were. 16:39.689 --> 16:41.050 [SPEAKER_01]: They even admitted many times. 16:41.070 --> 16:41.731 [SPEAKER_01]:

They are understaffed. 16:41.751 --> 16:41.951 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 16:41.971 --> 16:47.816 [SPEAKER_01]: So with agencies, but now the nowadays, they've got plenty of recruits and they're jamming out inspections and jumping on boats all winter long. 16:48.277 --> 16:53.441 [SPEAKER_01]: And they've got to get up surplus with the with the with the current current United States. 16:53.501 --> 16:53.722 [SPEAKER_01]: So, 16:54.803 --> 17:00.128 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, so I think I think now they're starting to do better stuff and I'm the I'm all for the Coast Guard guys. 17:00.148 --> 17:07.955 [SPEAKER_01]: Let me just tell you I have support them and you know, I do all that kind of stuff and throw my funds that I work really hard for to support them and I do anything I can on the water for anybody. 17:08.696 --> 17:12.079 [SPEAKER_01]: So that's that's that's the end of the windmill story for now. 17:12.160 --> 17:13.000 [SPEAKER_01]: I'd like to say more. 17:13.020 --> 17:13.801 [SPEAKER_01]: I have to say more. 17:13.841 --> 17:14.682 [SPEAKER_01]: I got more to say, but. 17:15.102 --> 17:29.696 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to wait until we have to settle these things out and figure out what we're going to do here at this point because there's a lot to do I need I actually you know this David Wright and there's other people want me to go to the news and do other things So I can protect anglers so I can let people know and to call them out on their bad on their bad practice, you know 17:31.277 --> 17:41.044 [SPEAKER_03]: I want to get the safety nugget for our listeners so just so I can understand so you're talking about the cable laying boats. 17:41.084 --> 17:45.848 [SPEAKER_03]: Talk us through the exact like position like if I were to be leaving Rudy or coming around. 17:45.888 --> 17:47.849 [SPEAKER_03]: It's very important coming around Kate Henry. 17:48.430 --> 17:51.932 [SPEAKER_03]: Where do I need to be looking where do I need to be watching out and if. 17:52.072 --> 17:52.933 [SPEAKER_01]: That's very important. 17:59.841 --> 18:01.342 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, well, here, that's very important. 18:01.722 --> 18:03.623 [SPEAKER_01]: So right off of Crosha and there's where there's stretch in the cables. 18:03.643 --> 18:05.123 [SPEAKER_01]: They like to work real tight on the beach there. 18:05.343 --> 18:06.824 [SPEAKER_01]: And they usually have a big, bright boat. 18:06.844 --> 18:12.406 [SPEAKER_01]: Now, once that big boat is up there, you're supposed to know that you're supposed to give that thing a half mile clearance. 18:12.886 --> 18:16.168 [SPEAKER_01]: They're not going to walk to the radar and tell you when you're getting inside of there. 18:16.348 --> 18:27.292 [SPEAKER_01]: Because there's these giant cables that stretch all the way to that boat, like a giant close-lining tower ripping boat shredding machine, waiting in a spider web form that if you don't see their unlit buoy 18:29.293 --> 18:29.834 [SPEAKER_01]: You're doomed. 18:29.994 --> 18:30.815 [SPEAKER_01]: They're not calling you. 18:30.915 --> 18:31.755 [SPEAKER_01]: They're not watching you. 18:32.096 --> 18:32.916 [SPEAKER_01]: They might be now. 18:32.956 --> 18:34.218 [SPEAKER_01]: They're gonna listen to this podcast. 18:34.258 --> 18:39.362 [SPEAKER_01]: I guarantee there's much money's jammed up in this thing They got they have yeah, you know what I mean? 18:39.562 --> 18:40.803 [SPEAKER_01]: It's the biggest trip a poll. 18:41.044 --> 18:43.506 [SPEAKER_01]: It's the biggest trip a poll You've ever seen dude. 18:44.006 --> 18:54.716 [SPEAKER_01]: They are just the dollars are just raining down in this place every time you go buy it They are just dancing in circles bro does make it rain baby make it rain baby 18:55.517 --> 18:56.380 [SPEAKER_01]: Make it rain. 18:56.400 --> 18:57.402 [SPEAKER_01]: They love their dough. 18:57.422 --> 18:58.284 [SPEAKER_01]: They love that money. 18:58.345 --> 19:00.269 [SPEAKER_01]: Never seen such fast construction. 19:00.991 --> 19:03.899 [SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, yeah So here's where they're located they're gonna be located another now 19:05.322 --> 19:11.605 [SPEAKER_01]: Now, they have a gigantic boat almost blocking the entrance out of Rudy and let me between the booze and them. 19:12.065 --> 19:18.548 [SPEAKER_01]: So if you were to leave Rudy and let, you don't want to have to split your course to go around that boat and you would naturally be around it. 19:18.868 --> 19:19.989 [SPEAKER_01]: Isn't that amazing? 19:20.129 --> 19:22.410 [SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, you've looked six charters, man. 19:22.570 --> 19:23.650 [SPEAKER_01]: Seven charters make it now. 19:23.890 --> 19:24.371 [SPEAKER_01]: Time six. 19:24.391 --> 19:25.371 [SPEAKER_01]: That's 42 people. 19:25.851 --> 19:29.013 [SPEAKER_01]: That's 42 people with me and Russ is 44 people. 19:29.373 --> 19:33.935 [SPEAKER_01]: I've almost gotten smoked by them being AC and not caring about the community. 19:34.635 --> 19:42.458 [SPEAKER_01]: So, so the next so the next time now they guess what now They've got all the buoys that they're not using all the buoys. 19:42.478 --> 19:46.960 [SPEAKER_01]: They had stretched all the way out over the place not lit by the way There's only there's only eight of them now. 19:47.361 --> 19:48.701 [SPEAKER_01]: They had way more than that on there. 19:48.721 --> 20:02.407 [SPEAKER_01]: We got video of that too Because you know, it's funny actually that day that it all happened actually went out with a friend named Angela and and her and I went out That evening and with her family and did some fishing and stuff and I noticed how they were scrambling around putting the buoys all up and checking them all that then 20:03.042 --> 20:07.533 [SPEAKER_01]: After everything that happened, they needed co-scards on their job, coming up soon, probably, and here they go. 20:07.713 --> 20:11.884 [SPEAKER_01]: So now, these buoys are currently within a, within a, 20:12.633 --> 20:15.834

[SPEAKER_01]: You know, a hundred yard radius, so not radius line. 20:16.254 --> 20:27.897 [SPEAKER_01]: And there's a boat on station since then there's been a boat on station saying, you know, what is that and what does that mean on station means that means there's somebody there and if you come in near those they can drive towards you to push you off it, they cut your bow. 20:28.017 --> 20:30.677 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, they can they can they don't even got to get to in the radio. 20:30.697 --> 20:32.898 [SPEAKER_01]: They can use a wild stuff and cut you off. 20:32.918 --> 20:34.078 [SPEAKER_01]: They've done that a few times with us. 20:34.138 --> 20:36.339 [SPEAKER_01]: I was like, wondering why they're running right at my boat like that. 20:36.359 --> 20:36.839 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, dude, I'm 20:37.608 --> 20:39.350 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I got people here like a waves here. 20:39.370 --> 20:42.393 [SPEAKER_01]: I got to go this direction like, you know, I just don't get in the breweries were here there. 20:42.713 --> 20:45.977 [SPEAKER_01]: They've done some things in the past that you, you know, question them well, you're out there or that long. 20:46.617 --> 20:48.679 [SPEAKER_01]: He end up doing stuff for hey, check this out. 20:48.759 --> 20:49.100 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know. 20:49.120 --> 20:54.165 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't get it, but I don't think it's professional a few of the times for sure way way way way beyond. 20:54.625 --> 20:56.167 [SPEAKER_01]: And so I've seen the last move. 20:56.187 --> 20:58.950 [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, the right out there, you're going to be able to tell now. 20:58.970 --> 20:59.830 [SPEAKER_01]: There's a boat on them. 21:00.687 --> 21:04.770 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm done talking with Ron, you know, it's just, that's, that's, that's over, man. 21:04.790 --> 21:07.071 [SPEAKER_01]: There's no, uh, there's, that's, that's good, man. 21:07.351 --> 21:07.952 [SPEAKER_01]: It's not happening. 21:07.972 --> 21:11.935 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a shame that you had to experience that. 21:12.235 --> 21:18.259 [SPEAKER_03]: I hope that you get justice and get, you know, compensated and taken care of for what happened. 21:18.719 --> 21:25.143 [SPEAKER_03]: And also it's a cautionary tale just to remind everybody that like don't get complacent, don't get comfortable always. 21:25.563 --> 21:26.524 [SPEAKER_03]: Always keep your head. 21:26.784 --> 21:33.208 [SPEAKER_03]: Keep your head on a swivel when you're out there, especially when you're running early in the morning, absolutely keep your head on a swivel because it can happen before you know it. 21:33.388 --> 21:36.450 [SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, you can start calling calling quickly. 21:37.211 --> 21:38.732 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, record your times. 21:39.652 --> 21:40.673 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 21:40.693 --> 21:41.313 [SPEAKER_01]: Stay calm. 21:42.094 --> 21:44.235 [SPEAKER_01]: As many things in this whole thing of stay calm, 21:47.363 --> 21:56.926 [SPEAKER_01]: and make the appropriate moves to address the situation as you return and do the personal stuff is do everything you need to do to make sure that that doesn't happen to somebody else, man. 21:56.966 --> 21:58.886 [SPEAKER_01]: And I think it was maybe supposed to happen to me. 21:59.486 --> 22:04.628 [SPEAKER_01]: So that doesn't happen to somebody because to do to those people that don't know about that, it was, and this is the week before the tournament. 22:05.348 --> 22:06.348 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, any other. 22:06.688 --> 22:07.829 [SPEAKER_01]: Dealin' with it. 22:07.929 --> 22:09.789 [SPEAKER_01]: Every time we've been dealing with that already. 22:10.149 --> 22:12.790 [SPEAKER_01]: Not lives at worst, not lives at the worst, man. 22:13.613 --> 22:32.994 [SPEAKER_03]: Absolutely, it's a tough subject matter to go over because there's a lot of mixed feelings about the windmills and obviously when you have something like that it's the difference of when you hear 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feel like the season is, are we headed in a healthy direction with like I've seen you guys catch in some Spanish macros, you've caught tuna, you caught acobia, you've got a jig, it's very clear water. 23:23.732 --> 23:27.153 [SPEAKER_03]: You guys have been laying some fish on the deck, I mean, is it been good? 23:28.185 --> 23:35.708 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, honestly, you know, fish has been fun, fish has been fishing, you know, some days you get them, some days you don't, the offshore bite kind of tapered off with the full moon rises. 23:35.748 --> 23:47.332 [SPEAKER_01]: I always believe that they started to slow down a little bit when they in our area anyway, when that full moon pops because they're eating at night and the squid's really thick in our area and there's other baits up in order for something that they're chewing on because they're still catching them just fine. 23:48.232 --> 23:50.273 [SPEAKER_01]: And we went to the south and got shark real good. 23:50.513 --> 23:52.614

[SPEAKER_01]: They have the friday of the tournament day. 23:52.634 --> 23:53.534 [SPEAKER_01]: We're not our tournament day. 23:53.554 --> 23:54.435 [SPEAKER_01]: Turn our tournament day. 23:54.475 --> 23:54.715 [SPEAKER_01]: We had a 23:55.735 --> 23:57.537 [SPEAKER_01]: 300 to 500 pound blue marlin. 23:57.557 --> 23:59.899 [SPEAKER_01]: We've been switched me and Russ got our first bait and switch ever. 24:00.379 --> 24:01.180 [SPEAKER_01]: That was awesome. 24:01.240 --> 24:01.540 [SPEAKER_01]: Like this. 24:01.620 --> 24:07.886 [SPEAKER_01]: It came up and lit up on our teaser about Rip the Outrigger off the thing and How's it get us get ready and drop back down the flat line to them? 24:08.166 --> 24:14.852 [SPEAKER_01]: I said ready now we switched it went it went for it Nope didn't come tight on the first one came back that it railed the rigour again. 24:14.872 --> 24:17.074 [SPEAKER_01]: I got them all worked up and first key on the rigour again 24:17.794 --> 24:35.981 [SPEAKER_01]: And then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, rurus, I was like, Russ, rururururururururururururururururururururururururururururururururururururururururururururururururururururururururururururururururururururururururururururururururururururururururururururururururururururururururururururururururururururururururururururururururururururururururururururururururururururururururururururururururururururururururururururururururururururururururururur 24:42.183 --> 24:44.345 [SPEAKER_01]: So we're happy to watch him, you know, do his thing. 24:44.385 --> 24:46.786 [SPEAKER_01]: Do his little jump a little and see you later and see you later. 24:46.826 --> 24:50.669 [SPEAKER_01]: But, and then we found a bait ball popping and we circled that and got it got a white morning. 24:51.449 --> 24:53.551 [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, we had a white morning and come bang our bait. 24:53.571 --> 24:54.651 [SPEAKER_01]: We saw him come swooping out. 24:54.671 --> 24:57.433 [SPEAKER_01]: I was like, God, this wasn't our day for the test. 24:57.673 --> 25:06.139 [SPEAKER_03]: So what does anybody any, any non-tune tournament date out of been an epic day of fishing to get it to build fish in the same way? 25:06.179 --> 25:07.640 [SPEAKER_03]: No, no, no, no, no. 25:07.680 --> 25:08.721 [SPEAKER_03]: I do want to ask the question. 25:09.261 --> 25:11.462 [SPEAKER_03]: You said when you went south, you got sharked. 25:12.023 --> 25:12.603 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm curious. 25:12.643 --> 25:14.004 [SPEAKER_03]: What's in your mind? 25:14.044 --> 25:19.908 [SPEAKER_03]: What's the difference between down south meaning like you head out and you go towards like the the ledge and more south there. 25:20.028 --> 25:21.148 [SPEAKER_03]: So this is up. 25:21.789 --> 25:24.591 [SPEAKER_03]: It's just that's their home for the shark to hang out. 25:25.151 --> 25:27.893 [SPEAKER_01]: I've seen the sharks get all the up in the Norfolk two years ago. 25:28.753 --> 25:32.795 [SPEAKER_03]: He emboldened me and bolts were in their fish with the sharks for chewing up our gear pretty well. 25:33.735 --> 25:35.956 [SPEAKER_01]: So overcast day, we were catching them good. 25:36.177 --> 25:47.302 [SPEAKER_03]: That's uh, that's just tricky to know that like certain parts, you know, you, because then they're like bolts, they had a really nice, uh, oh, yeah, I got it, you know, didn't, um, so bizarre. 25:47.462 --> 25:52.364 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I get it, it's just, it's what it is, but, and there's that, that's the frustrating thing, there's nothing you can do about it. 25:52.644 --> 25:53.985 [SPEAKER_03]: Shark wants to eat it, it's going to eat it. 25:54.541 --> 25:56.201 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we had two hum, man. 25:56.221 --> 25:59.102 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, you get used to catching some fish where you're at over the weeks. 25:59.122 --> 26:02.963 [SPEAKER_01]: You get used to catching and hooking up and stay moving and getting three, four, five hooked up. 26:02.983 --> 26:03.843 [SPEAKER_01]: And you're like, all right, let's stop. 26:04.363 --> 26:05.563 [SPEAKER_01]: Why had two hookup the other day? 26:05.603 --> 26:07.103 [SPEAKER_01]: I kept going around these one pile of tunes. 26:07.143 --> 26:08.584 [SPEAKER_01]: I kept seeing on the surface of the weird. 26:08.644 --> 26:09.424 [SPEAKER_01]: I never seen them like that. 26:09.904 --> 26:11.084 [SPEAKER_01]: But I finally got two hooked up. 26:11.544 --> 26:13.005 [SPEAKER_01]: And I got grit. 26:13.025 --> 26:13.605 [SPEAKER_01]: I guess greedy. 26:13.625 --> 26:15.565 [SPEAKER_01]: I kept moving and stretch those out. 26:16.045 --> 26:17.986 [SPEAKER_01]: And I think you know, more bites are stopped. 26:18.106 --> 26:19.786 [SPEAKER_01]: And we get, we get the guys battle in a way. 26:20.476 --> 26:21.378 [SPEAKER_01]: They didn't have our gear cleared. 26:21.399 --> 26:28.779 [SPEAKER_01]: I couldn't back up or anything different, but within about five more minutes of them both, you know, working these fish, you know, kicking their butts, probably ten minutes. 26:29.848 --> 26:34.510 [SPEAKER_01]: Man, they both weigh them in sharks and just they shake and go nuts and run and then you can just go. 26:34.590 --> 26:43.534 [SPEAKER_01]: And then you come back 400 and they're like, I think they figured out how to eat some of the tuna and then bite in front of the line or something to get the rest to come off and I mean, eight to them clean. 26:44.254 --> 26:53.878 [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, and I think the sharks live and they're just so used to be in the south and eating up all the fish because they won't regulate the sharks right and we're letting them just go out there and smoke them so we can get our fish. 26:53.898 --> 26:56.359 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you got to imagine if we're catching fish and they're catching fish. 26:59.600 --> 27:23.744 [SPEAKER_01]: mess the things up that are eating or will we like to eat because if not we're taking some and they're taking some and

it's not going to work out with numbers over the years you know you're going to add up you've got to be less attempts we can have more or we can have ours yeah because they're not they're going to live they live there they're going to keep multiplying and get more and more and we're going to take we're both going to be hitting the same source so i don't know it just doesn't make so i think i think the honestly a lot of these regulations and things are just to 27:24.462 --> 27:32.209 [SPEAKER_01]: Make us feel like a stoplight and just sitting there when they can have a technology to let us go through and I would know what he's out of the intersection just to bury you down a little extra. 27:33.270 --> 27:46.483 [SPEAKER_03]: Anyway, well, one of the things, one of the things that's interesting to me about shark seeding tunas is like tunas are super fast and they swim so like they can dart left and right, their fins are incredible and obviously when they're hooked up to a line, that's probably like one of the 27:46.723 --> 27:50.805 [SPEAKER_03]: few times that they're even a possible target for a shark. 27:50.845 --> 27:53.106 [SPEAKER_03]: So that feel like the sharks are pretty stinkin' smart. 27:53.466 --> 27:58.949 [SPEAKER_03]: And they can sense those vibrations in home in and circle around them and eventually figure out where they are. 27:58.969 --> 28:04.771 [SPEAKER_03]: And then once they realize that they're troubled and they're not moving that fast, it's like, oh, well, that's an easy snack for me now. 28:05.412 --> 28:06.812 [SPEAKER_03]: But I do want to ask this question. 28:07.152 --> 28:07.853 [SPEAKER_03]: When I look at like, 28:08.593 --> 28:10.875 [SPEAKER_03]: a water shot, meaning like the sea surface temperatures. 28:11.455 --> 28:16.058 [SPEAKER_03]: And you can see you can see I typically will adjust it to be about a 10 degrees spread. 28:16.278 --> 28:20.681 [SPEAKER_03]: So like right now I'm doing like 70 degrees to 80 degrees so that I can see the kind of color gradient. 28:22.002 --> 28:32.509 [SPEAKER_03]: When you look at a water shot like that and you can see the you know the blue meaning like the seven low 70s and then the orangey which is like the the kind of mid 70s and then the dark dark orangey red which is like 28:33.229 --> 28:34.330 [SPEAKER_03]: 77, 78. 28:35.151 --> 28:37.032 [SPEAKER_03]: Where do you as a tuna fisherman? 28:37.072 --> 28:45.338 [SPEAKER_03]: Typically, where does your eye naturally draw to and go, okay, I feel good if I was in this kind of area with this kind of temperature or temperature break. 28:45.939 --> 28:47.700 [SPEAKER_01]: Really depends on the time of year man and where you're going. 28:47.720 --> 28:50.122 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, so many years we have to do this and check it out. 28:50.142 --> 28:52.964 [SPEAKER_01]: Look, I mean, you could just throw a generalization, but I'll go and tell you this. 28:54.453 --> 29:04.482 [SPEAKER_01]: in the beginning of the year in the south you can find it you want to be on the break right on the edge that's just the best thing if you can be on the temperature break on the edge of the surface which means 600 feet 600 feet is where basically the line is. 29:05.022 --> 29:10.507 [SPEAKER_01]: At this it's 600 feet it pretty much drops down to a thousand or it goes up to 300. 29:11.048 --> 29:13.650 [SPEAKER_01]: There's no 600 level. 29:13.890 --> 29:15.291 [SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean? 29:15.311 --> 29:17.734 [SPEAKER_01]: You get this so that's what you want to call the edge call of the edge. 29:18.374 --> 29:40.628 [SPEAKER_01]: you want to go the right around there if you can get in that area between you know that area that's where the fish like to pile up and I believe is because the bait washes its way up there and it kind of crunches it down and makes it when it's forcing its way into the warm water and that warm water eventually shoves its way up and over over the edge and then we call it blended when it blends in and everything inside becomes the same temperature you know there was a couple white mollins caught outside of the tower the other day 29:41.548 --> 29:43.549 [SPEAKER_01]: to repair a pair and not to tear it. 29:43.789 --> 29:47.670 [SPEAKER_01]: They were outside of the windmills just just I remember those only go 40 miles. 29:48.570 --> 29:49.671 [SPEAKER_01]: So that was interesting here. 29:50.111 --> 29:52.131 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, my buddy rock, my buddy rock out on those. 29:52.611 --> 29:53.112 [SPEAKER_03]: Interesting. 29:53.172 --> 30:03.795 [SPEAKER_03]: And so when you think about blended water, so like as we go into July, you know, an August, if we were to be thinking about tuna fish, what kind of water temperature or water break do you look for? 30:04.731 --> 30:09.513 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, remember last year at the fingers, we went, we went somewhere. 30:09.913 --> 30:10.873 [SPEAKER_01]: We didn't go to a temperature. 30:10.893 --> 30:11.694 [SPEAKER_01]: We weren't looking for a break. 30:11.734 --> 30:13.634 [SPEAKER_01]: Remember, we were looking for a spot where we caught them. 30:14.015 --> 30:15.655 [SPEAKER_01]: We were really looking for birds and sandals. 30:16.195 --> 30:16.856 [SPEAKER_01]: We weren't looking. 30:16.916 --> 30:21.478 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, you could actually mark a little bit of the tuners on your screen, go over that ball a few times, and try to get fish to bite. 30:22.098 --> 30:22.478 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 30:22.498 --> 30:23.378 [SPEAKER_01]: That was interesting. 30:23.418 --> 30:27.580 [SPEAKER_01]: And then out at the canyon, you look, you were looking for a little bit of a break. 30:28.387 --> 30:31.329 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, you're going to find, you're going to find more fish on three degree breaks. 30:31.389 --> 30:35.871 [SPEAKER_01]: If you can find a three degree break within a half mile area, guys, that's a good spot. 30:35.911 --> 30:36.932 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's a good spot. 30:37.132 -->

30:43.255 [SPEAKER_03]: I am curious, you know, unlike tuna, what are the conditions in the water or birds or whatever? 30:43.295 --> 30:44.676 [SPEAKER_03]: What are you looking for? 30:44.756 --> 30:48.078 [SPEAKER_03]: Obviously something floating in the water, but temperature wise for mahi. 30:48.498 --> 30:52.180 [SPEAKER_03]: Are they in the same areas as tuna or do they like us something a little bit different in the water temperature? 30:52.360 --> 31:04.394 [SPEAKER_01]: Good great question, tuna can go in green water and light green water and they'll go in the cold So I've seen my do it and I've seen my colder water, but I've seen my freeze up where they don't eat They know they just sit there and stare at you at early in the spring. 31:04.815 --> 31:06.377 [SPEAKER_01]: I like anything once you get over 74 31:07.558 --> 31:11.800 [SPEAKER_01]: You can get some 73 as long as they're holds, and you can get 73 towards the end in October. 31:12.420 --> 31:31.048 [SPEAKER_01]: But to be honest, you want that range of 75, and then you just let it hold there for a while, bring it into a blue water, and then everything you put out there, all the other stuff adds, or the pots, or the end of the booze, and the windmills don't really guys, I don't know what it is about the yellow, but it doesn't hold the mind like you think it would. 31:31.568 --> 31:33.148 [SPEAKER_01]: You think they'd be piled in all around that. 31:33.208 --> 31:34.389 [SPEAKER_01]: Nope, they want a booey by it. 31:34.469 --> 31:39.890 [SPEAKER_03]: Right before we wrap up certain things that we wanted to cover that we haven't covered yet. 31:40.550 --> 31:41.570 [SPEAKER_01]: Man, you want to hear the light. 31:41.590 --> 31:42.910 [SPEAKER_01]: You got time for one last story. 31:43.570 --> 31:44.070 [SPEAKER_01]: It's wild. 31:44.490 --> 31:44.890 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 31:45.070 --> 31:45.410 [SPEAKER_01]: Tell me. 31:45.471 --> 31:46.491 [SPEAKER_01]: All right, man. 31:46.511 --> 31:48.071 [SPEAKER_01]: Guys, I got a wild story for you guys. 31:48.391 --> 31:48.631 [SPEAKER_01]: All right. 31:49.371 --> 31:50.271 [SPEAKER_01]: This would need to drink water. 31:50.291 --> 31:51.032 [SPEAKER_01]: Guys, this is a good one. 31:51.172 --> 31:51.672 [SPEAKER_01]: This is a good one. 31:51.692 --> 31:51.892 [SPEAKER_01]: All right. 31:52.652 --> 31:53.292 [SPEAKER_01]: It's not a good one. 31:53.312 --> 31:54.972 [SPEAKER_01]: It's only a good one because everybody's okay. 31:55.012 --> 31:55.532 [SPEAKER_01]: Nothing happened. 31:55.552 --> 31:56.793 [SPEAKER_01]: That's too detrimental. 31:56.813 --> 31:57.073 [SPEAKER_01]: All right. 32:00.922 --> 32:12.230 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm riding down the beach coming back to the north towards the jettie and I got a fellow but a fellow charter captain goes by me, we're just talking on the radio high and how's everything going and everything's cool and then we're in 17 foot of water and three to five. 32:12.250 --> 32:18.595 [SPEAKER_01]: So this is a choppy or day blowing from the northeast, making a tough but the fish are drawn onto the beach and we're having a really good bite. 32:18.655 --> 32:19.856 [SPEAKER_01]: So that's where we have to be. 32:20.156 --> 32:20.957 [SPEAKER_01]: People are loving it. 32:20.977 --> 32:24.419 [SPEAKER_01]: They're rocking around, but they're still having a great time, rip and fish and they're boat. 32:25.220 --> 32:28.042 [SPEAKER_01]: I go by and we're just talking, I'm eating my steak and rice. 32:28.670 --> 32:40.257 [SPEAKER_01]: And he said any any and one of my one of my fellow charter captains I was respect a lot one of the best out there He's like a lost power stand by and I just like okay, so just kind of you know I'm just kind of I'm still trolling we just passed together. 32:40.277 --> 32:55.627 [SPEAKER_01]: We're good and you know I figured a couple of motors this and that just you know just figure out what's going on and in a few seconds not even 20 30 seconds later I got I get the you know Bill comes to bill comes to come get me and I turn around and 32:56.330 --> 33:12.284 [SPEAKER_01]: There's a boat there's a boat double the size of mine going up to be each sideways wobbling sideways which I already know means lost power going for the sand you're about to you're about to beat your boat now look here's what happens okay here happens I got to tell you right off the bat when you beat your boat. 33:13.545 --> 33:17.308 [SPEAKER_01]: If you beat your boat you could definitely hurt your could hurt your crew. 33:18.052 --> 33:25.255 [SPEAKER_01]: your charter people don't know how to swim just a lot of things and the most for me and and a lot of us in this in this thing. 33:25.695 --> 33:27.436 [SPEAKER_01]: We work so hard for what we do. 33:27.456 --> 33:43.282 [SPEAKER_01]: We care so much that that literally that's our livelihood, that's our house going out there, you know, and and also, you know, and that boat, when it's just that boat going under, it gets, you know, three weeks, four weeks, four weeks, you get the sand out, you get it out of there, it gets 33:47.383 --> 33:55.908 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and all the one motion all the one motion all the angels all in a in a hurry, man So within a hurry I'm gonna spit my rice out of my face. 33:55.948 --> 33:57.189 [SPEAKER_01]: I throw my fork to the left. 33:57.670 --> 34:06.155 [SPEAKER_01]: I cut the boat over to the left I go get him in as fast as you can and I'm ripping it through the waves back towards him as fast as I can possibly move that that speed boat and you know 34:07.180 --> 34:22.608 [SPEAKER_01]: God gave me that speed boost being a god for that moment right then as every moment I've had it was cool is great to have but that was the moment because I gunned it and I got Rust doing an unbelievable job of orchestrating that that keeping everybody straight keep Everybody standing getting the lines in getting them ripps. 34:22.628 --> 34:34.575 [SPEAKER_01]: He's got

planers doing 20 miles an hour And he's power cranking and pulling on him like he's fighting a blue a blue event He's out there just ripping I get to the I get sort of where I can see this other boat and as it's getting sideways We're already 34:35.605 --> 34:51.741 [SPEAKER_01]: I got to admit we're already in the spot where I wouldn't drive my boat and I'm coming in hot and at that point I took those ideas, chewed it up and put it in a ball and threw it out the window and fricking gunned it in it like James Bond and swung my ass right in and his mate was on the bow and his mate's huge, he's strong. 34:52.101 --> 34:57.646 [SPEAKER_01]: He's a big guy, he's really positive, he's really great guy, we really like him and he's on the front and he's nervous but he's 34:58.658 --> 35:00.778 [SPEAKER_01]: He's still confident and he's got his chest out. 35:00.858 --> 35:07.440 [SPEAKER_01]: He's a glass on this rope like Indiana Jones about to whip somebody And he's rassing with his thing dude, and I come in swinging it. 35:07.500 --> 35:11.941 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm screaming at him Hey, I got his I'm going hey don't don't throw it yet. 35:11.981 --> 35:22.763 [SPEAKER_01]: Don't throw it yet We got to be like 15 not breathe and and and and and he's throwing at me into the breeze and I'm turning I got my prop coming and he wings it anyway and he somehow from where he was 35:23.601 --> 35:34.213 [SPEAKER_01]: got it all the way never reach me got it all the way to me and I'm turning in almost over and it's about to go on my prop when the gas would come flying over and rust gas and put you clear it up and scream me, cleat it up. 35:34.673 --> 35:42.802 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, cleat there's something cleat there's up and by the way the last thing I forgot to tell you is by the last when right when I saw their faces when I got their clothes and said don't throw the rope. 35:43.543 --> 35:46.885 [SPEAKER_01]: the boat rolled and I saw the bottom of the boat clean his day twice. 35:47.585 --> 35:55.489 [SPEAKER_01]: Now when the boat was moving towards the beach, it was lifting up and down, lifting up and down, lifting up and down, then all of a sudden when it did those last two, it was on the bar. 35:55.889 --> 35:58.370 [SPEAKER_01]: And it just did its first two on the bar. 35:58.710 --> 35:59.931 [SPEAKER_01]: So I get up on this thing. 36:00.291 --> 36:01.571 [SPEAKER_01]: I throw the rope, cleat to cleat. 36:01.912 --> 36:03.612 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't got nowhere enough room. 36:04.233 --> 36:05.953 [SPEAKER_01]: Anywhere enough room to make this pull, man. 36:05.973 --> 36:07.434 [SPEAKER_01]: I need way more room on this rope. 36:08.054 --> 36:08.915 [SPEAKER_01]: But I look in the back. 36:09.675 --> 36:12.177 [SPEAKER_01]: and the captain is always eyes are wide open. 36:12.517 --> 36:25.447 [SPEAKER_01]: He's holding on to this anchor trying to stern anchor and he's getting ripped by the seas in the wind and he just can't and he's trying to throw a fluing

and rips it out of his hand and sure enough somehow some like their mate and my mate 36:26.598 --> 36:27.619 [SPEAKER_01]: Get the cleats going. 36:27.920 --> 36:29.521 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm way too tight for a pull. 36:29.862 --> 36:31.984 [SPEAKER_01]: I get close enough where I can turn my boat. 36:32.585 --> 36:38.251 [SPEAKER_01]: I pull around and look on my GPS, I made a one, a capital D where I came in hooked up. 36:38.551 --> 36:41.615 [SPEAKER_01]: And as soon as I got a hold of them, I went forward, got picked up by a wave. 36:41.935 --> 36:43.877 [SPEAKER_01]: And I pulled forward and you and I went backwards. 36:44.458 --> 36:44.979 [SPEAKER_01]: Good move him. 36:45.893 --> 36:47.493 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm 15,000 pounds bro. 36:47.774 --> 36:49.974 [SPEAKER_01]: I had another thousand pounds worth of people on the boat. 36:50.254 --> 36:50.915 [SPEAKER_01]: He didn't budge. 36:51.515 --> 36:52.975 [SPEAKER_01]: I'd freaking choose coming. 36:53.015 --> 36:53.875 [SPEAKER_01]: He's up again. 36:53.895 --> 36:57.576 [SPEAKER_01]: I feel that poop and I'm like, oh, and a wavecrumbs. 36:58.117 --> 37:01.418 [SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, right then I shelved my motors down as low as I could. 37:01.458 --> 37:02.518 [SPEAKER_01]: I trimmed them low as I could. 37:02.918 --> 37:19.171 [SPEAKER_01]: no one else probably gonna hit bottom didn't matter at that point I was like one more wave we got wave and I got just tight enough this is all within three four seconds these waves are coming and I put her down on my time the time to eat 700 Clydesdale's now you're not horses your Clydesdale's boys and I suffer and I'm like 37:22.090 --> 37:40.600 [SPEAKER_01]: and his work in bale finally over a wave turns I get his bow to move second pull my god and his bow comes over to like I think I got to move and and I'm start dragging him like I'm dragged and I feel the bottom of him like calling a carman I see both their faces like and their eyes are like oh my god and I can see the main of the front is like 37:41.300 --> 37:45.644 [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, oh my god, and we start, and we start just looking and we're pulling and pulling. 37:45.704 --> 37:55.454 [SPEAKER_01]: So I powered all the way through, I finally, I finally, I finally get, I can, I can feel his bow twist into the, into the waves and I finally start to pull him forward. 37:56.015 --> 38:04.223 [SPEAKER_01]: I finally start to get him to go and I shove that thing down there and I got the 700, I'm digging him and, and honestly, you don't want to over dig or over torque, but 38:04.943 --> 38:05.303 [SPEAKER_01]: I did it. 38:05.323 --> 38:06.483 [SPEAKER_01]: I was like, oh, let's go. 38:06.884 --> 38:09.304 [SPEAKER_01]: And we got him to, and I'm pulling his ball up and over up and over. 38:09.584 --> 38:13.485 [SPEAKER_01]: And his things starts to rub into my motor, where I'm like, oh, I'm going to run, they're like, you're going to crack your case. 38:13.885 --> 38:16.406 [SPEAKER_01]: So I kind of angle him to the south, where I can get out of it all. 38:16.766 --> 38:17.886 [SPEAKER_01]: And just get him off at an angle. 38:17.926 --> 38:18.706 [SPEAKER_01]: I know I'm going deeper. 38:18.726 --> 38:20.087 [SPEAKER_01]: I've been fishing this beach all morning. 38:20.427 --> 38:21.667 [SPEAKER_01]: And we know how the depths are. 38:22.107 --> 38:24.808 [SPEAKER_01]: And my, my machine already is leveled out at three feet. 38:24.848 --> 38:27.468 [SPEAKER_01]: So I was already out of, if it wasn't going to read any more shallow. 38:28.208 --> 38:31.649 [SPEAKER_01]: And even my chart, it was just six feet or five feet or something on 38:35.090 --> 38:37.934 [SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, we come we I start to pull them out of there pull them out. 38:37.974 --> 38:54.052 [SPEAKER_01]: I see his mate just being relieved I'll stream back and I love you guys Yeah, yeah, and his mate makes a big heart like you know, I was like, oh, you know like dude like I got you So then we went we had to switch the toe because it was hitting my motor and I had to get him on his other cleat because honestly I was pulling his 38:54.753 --> 38:57.637 [SPEAKER_01]: his bow right into the waves and he was getting beat that worse. 38:57.737 --> 38:57.977 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 38:58.058 --> 39:03.305 [SPEAKER_01]: So I wanted to switch sides so I could pull him the other way so he's not getting beat on my side so I could pull him this direction. 39:03.745 --> 39:08.852 [SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, we put a switch cleats and the momentum created from what I had his jack double the size of mine. 39:09.698 --> 39:10.839 [SPEAKER_01]: Like it's a big boat. 39:10.939 --> 39:13.221 [SPEAKER_01]: I was pulling it and it was coming at me. 39:13.261 --> 39:21.248 [SPEAKER_01]: I knew it was coming at me from Times between the past and I was on CTO 20 years ago on Roads that I used to run that or my own boats that I would get pulled in and coming through the jetty. 39:21.268 --> 39:25.572 [SPEAKER_01]: They they they they shorten the rope whatever and they have a wave comes surfing me now. 39:25.592 --> 39:26.653 [SPEAKER_01]: I got to get on the radio move. 39:26.773 --> 39:28.235 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm coming down a wave right out of here. 39:28.535 --> 39:29.135 [SPEAKER_01]: So they got it. 39:29.436 --> 39:32.779 [SPEAKER_01]: So they would gun it and then by the time they'd gun it to get a wave to save their boat. 39:33.259 --> 39:34.120 [SPEAKER_01]: We'd get the next way. 39:34.540 --> 39:40.484 [SPEAKER_01]: No, we'd get with that because the rope because the rope would catch and we'd get slung and then we'd get come down and wave and get gunned again. 39:40.504 --> 39:42.265 [SPEAKER_01]: That was a guy. 39:42.405 --> 39:45.207 [SPEAKER_01]: That was another sea tow driver that probably doesn't do it anymore. 39:46.664 --> 39:57.589 [SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, so the point of this is I knew that was going to happen and when he's as he's coming to me and so I feel him drifting on

and you know I can tell by Russ's screen or concerned by the volume and tone how close he is. 39:57.949 --> 39:58.489 [SPEAKER_01]: He's getting closer. 39:58.509 --> 39:59.150 [SPEAKER_01]: He didn't go. 39:59.170 --> 39:59.790 [SPEAKER_01]: He's getting closer. 40:00.010 --> 40:07.113 [SPEAKER_01]: So I knew I still had a little bit of room and I didn't want to do the Yoke move and lose a connection and lose anything and have to go get him again in the conditions rear. 40:07.153 --> 40:07.493 [SPEAKER_01]: And so so 40:09.114 --> 40:10.615 [SPEAKER_01]: I kind of pulled just enough forward. 40:10.635 --> 40:11.355 [SPEAKER_01]: We got the lines. 40:11.375 --> 40:17.258 [SPEAKER_01]: Dree stretched out as he rushed given the maximum amount of line on that line and we had a better toe and we got all of the state. 40:17.278 --> 40:24.002 [SPEAKER_01]: We got all of the safe spot and it was something that it just took a little bit more time but got it got it going then. 40:24.202 --> 40:33.190 [SPEAKER_01]: It was just something they got going, but the lost power, it was just one of those things where right time, right place, and they were like, oh, you're just a net, and I was like, oh, dude, y'all, you guys were going the same for me, man. 40:33.631 --> 40:47.824 [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't get anything cool with the move I came in with, and the fact that deep down on my math major, and I love numbers, and I got the percentages of him hitting me with that rope, we're insane, great shot by the unbelievable shot by the mate. 40:48.464 --> 41:10.821 [SPEAKER_01]: unbelievable job by the captain getting me there just in time and keep me close and on on stand by and unbelievable job by the two one of the two best mates Russ I'm just gaffing control in our crew control the rope watching out from our boat in our vessel and I got everybody on the bow so that we wouldn't be I had a really slung everybody up to the bow in the pilot house with me So I keep my motor off the sand while I yoke them out 41:11.441 --> 41:17.446 [SPEAKER_01]: So there's a whole bunch of stuff going on, a whole bunch of Karen sharing, but it would, you know, any rhythm would have done that if they could. 41:17.626 --> 41:20.909 [SPEAKER_01]: If they, and I, I happen to drive that boat all the time and love that boat. 41:20.929 --> 41:22.991 [SPEAKER_01]: So I could fling that thing around like a, like a pan. 41:23.011 --> 41:30.857 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you know, I could pan big and Denny's, you know, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was there and you see, you know, there's a joke and I'm stoked. 41:31.338 --> 41:35.842 [SPEAKER_01]: I told him, I told him he owes me, though, I was like, you definitely owe me, he's like, oh, he doesn't owe you owe me a big group. 41:36.562 --> 41:42.825 [SPEAKER_01]: I was like, and not only that, I was like, I want one too, man, I want one for me, man, like, dude, that could, that could have been me. 41:43.446 --> 41:47.808 [SPEAKER_01]: So, and that could

have been me, that could have been me, and we could go, that could, and they would have came and got me. 41:48.388 --> 42:00.914 [SPEAKER_03]: So, yeah, so, I've, you know, I've pulled, I've pulled some people in, I've pulled a person during a Kobe tournament one time, took an hour and a half out of the day, but it's one of those things were like, if you know that 42:02.546 --> 42:03.567 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, they're shoot. 42:03.627 --> 42:04.268 [SPEAKER_03]: I pulled you. 42:04.368 --> 42:08.033 [SPEAKER_01]: I pulled that big a boat. 42:08.253 --> 42:08.674 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 42:09.715 --> 42:10.316 [SPEAKER_03]: That's it. 42:11.037 --> 42:14.201 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, your boat, your boat, my boat are made for that kind of thing. 42:14.221 --> 42:15.162 [SPEAKER_03]: I've got the old meiko. 42:15.182 --> 42:16.284 [SPEAKER_03]: You got the big seahawk. 42:16.344 --> 42:17.445 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, these are workin' boats. 42:17.485 --> 42:18.526 [SPEAKER_03]: In fact, I think the... 42:19.127 --> 42:40.728 [SPEAKER_03]: The gentleman's at Cito Bart White, you know, shout out Cito, one of our awesome ad sponsors and partners of the show, they go out and pick, they get to pick their own boats and he said they specifically will target older makers for that reason because they're don't have a, they can bump into pilings, they can bump into other boats and take the beating and and keep on going. 42:41.569 --> 42:46.010 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I love to buy her and men too, and you know, honestly, that Sea Hawk real quick of shout onto them. 42:46.050 --> 42:53.473 [SPEAKER_01]: I did take a paddle boat and we went underneath the vessel that we where we found where we hit and we felt the temple paint actually bounced us off of it. 42:54.433 --> 42:59.655 [SPEAKER_01]: And we actually didn't sustain any, it didn't, it didn't crack any fiberglass. 42:59.675 --> 43:01.655 [SPEAKER_01]: I ran my hands up and down that the where we got smacked. 43:01.675 --> 43:04.056 [SPEAKER_01]: We still have to pull the boat and see what it did underneath. 43:04.536 --> 43:07.277 [SPEAKER_01]: We have the right day yet where we can be checking, you know, as we go. 43:08.012 --> 43:10.693 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and the motors definitely took us big scratch on the back of those. 43:11.313 --> 43:17.196 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, thankfully the propeller and then the drive train is not good, but if anything would happen to the next few We would know where it came from. 43:17.776 --> 43:18.036 [SPEAKER_03]: Right. 43:18.156 --> 43:18.876 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, for sure. 43:18.996 --> 43:19.317 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, man. 43:19.337 --> 43:27.040 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm glad that I'm glad that you and your crew are safe to guess or safe I'm glad that the captain mate and crew of the boat that you guys rescued or safe. 43:27.080 --> 43:27.480 [SPEAKER_03]: That's uh 43:28.280 --> 43:39.969 [SPEAKER_03]: has a lot of between the tuna fish and blue marlin, the white marlin, the the omelette, and and red a

beach rescue, you have had an exciting week. 43:40.389 --> 43:41.650 [SPEAKER_01]: That was that was all one week. 43:41.690 --> 43:42.771 [SPEAKER_01]: That was within seven days. 43:42.791 --> 43:43.632 [SPEAKER_01]: That was it's been a stretch. 43:48.007 --> 43:54.076 [SPEAKER_03]: If folks are listening and want to get in on the exciting light captive billboard play Oh my god, just come catch this guys. 43:54.116 --> 43:54.717 [SPEAKER_01]: That's all you do. 43:54.737 --> 43:55.538 [SPEAKER_01]: Just come catch fish. 43:55.558 --> 43:56.219 [SPEAKER_01]: We'll give you safe. 43:56.540 --> 43:57.602 [SPEAKER_01]: And our boats tough guys. 43:57.622 --> 43:58.603 [SPEAKER_01]: It is strong. 43:59.144 --> 43:59.464 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 43:59.765 --> 44:00.386 [SPEAKER_03]: Absolutely. 44:00.546 --> 44:03.090 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, that's where they can contact you to book the trip. 44:03.880 --> 44:13.002 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, you're going to call 757-619-3530 to try to book one that way, but we do do everything online with the book and is is playin'hookiecharders.com. 44:13.623 --> 44:21.065 [SPEAKER_01]: And you can also find us on the socials, billpapest juniors up there, and you got playin' underscore, hookie, underscore charters at Instagram. 44:21.085 --> 44:29.087 [SPEAKER_01]: We put lots of stories, people seem to, I don't know how they do it, but they love watching and see us all around, and my son was at the, my son was over there at the, at the 44:30.867 --> 44:36.109 [SPEAKER_01]: Valet and they were like, you know, how's that trip to Hawaii and man you guys were doing good when did you get the motor? 44:36.149 --> 44:37.389 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, and they know where he's like man. 44:37.409 --> 44:38.570 [SPEAKER_01]: They know everything about his man. 44:38.590 --> 44:42.071 [SPEAKER_01]: Like who From the podcast 44:46.712 --> 44:51.154 [SPEAKER_03]: It's cool to see how, you know, it's bringing the, brought the community together. 44:51.194 --> 45:04.258 [SPEAKER_03]: I love, I love running into folks that either listen or, or somebody will reach out and say, hey, I was listening and, and I heard this tip, and, you know, and actually, I got to give a shout out to my buddy, Mike Manning. 45:04.278 --> 45:07.219 [SPEAKER_03]: He called me the day and he was like, look, I listen religiously. 45:07.259 --> 45:10.280 [SPEAKER_03]: He's like, I learned something every episode. 45:10.300 --> 45:11.961 [SPEAKER_03]: He said, I always learned something and I didn't 45:12.901 --> 45:14.743 [SPEAKER_03]: every single episode and he's been fishing. 45:15.043 --> 45:29.379 [SPEAKER_03]: He's been fishing for like since he was a kid and um so he's like he's like if I'm learning something then I know that anybody can learn something and I was like man that's really meant a lot to me to hear because that's really one of the main purposes of this is that we can all learn and grow together and 45:30.079 --> 45:35.020 [SPEAKER_03]: And continue to become better anglers while also simultaneously becoming better stewards of the fishery. 45:35.060 --> 45:40.181 [SPEAKER_03]: So And you're a big part of that man, so thank you for always bringing the always bringing the fun and throw in the park Oh my god, this is crazy. 45:40.201 --> 45:40.761 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh my god, this is crazy. 45:40.781 --> 45:41.302 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh my god, this is crazy. 45:41.322 --> 45:41.942 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh my god, this is crazy. 45:41.962 --> 45:42.462 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh my god, this is crazy. 45:42.482 --> 45:43.122 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god, this is crazy. 45:43.142 --> 45:43.702 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god, this is crazy. 45:43.722 --> 45:44.242 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god, this is crazy. 45:44.262 --> 45:44.982 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god, this is crazy. 45:45.002 --> 45:45.563 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god, this is crazy. 45:45.583 --> 45:46.083 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god, this is crazy. 45:46.103 --> 45:46.603 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god, this is crazy. 45:46.623 --> 45:47.163 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god, this is crazy. 45:47.183 --> 45:47.683 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god, this is crazy. 45:47.703 --> 45:48.203 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god, this is crazy. 45:48.223 --> 45:48.723 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god, this is crazy. 45:48.743 --> 45:49.283 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god, this is crazy. 45:49.303 --> 45:49.803 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god, this is crazy. 45:49.823 --> 45:50.384 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god, this is crazy. 45:50.404 --> 45:51.024 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god, this is crazy. 45:51.044 --> 45:51.724 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god, this is crazy. 45:51.744 --> 45:52.124 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god, this is 45:52.384 --> 45:59.468 [SPEAKER_01]: Hey, there's just today's hero and I love David Wright, but I was like, come on man, go ahead with that guy's like, you literally, it was cool man. 45:59.509 --> 46:04.672 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, it was, it was cool now that everybody's okay and everything's great. 46:04.692 --> 46:06.113 [SPEAKER_01]: That's why everything's good. 46:06.553 --> 46:07.974 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, they're talking about it now. 46:08.074 --> 46:10.955 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, it's just like, don't, don't celebrate till that one in fish is in the boat. 46:11.036 --> 46:14.998 [SPEAKER_03]: But anyways, well, we look forward to keeping up with your adventures in the weeks to come. 46:15.318 --> 46:16.399 [SPEAKER_03]: You guys heard it. 46:16.779 --> 46:19.641 [SPEAKER_03]: You can go online playing hooky charters.com to get booked. 46:21.662 --> 46:25.866 [SPEAKER_01]: I go around and I want to tell you guys that we do I don't ever say this at the end I should probably should be. 46:26.226 --> 46:28.749 [SPEAKER_01]: We do have individual trips for pretty popular for the walk ons. 46:28.769 --> 46:31.251 [SPEAKER_01]: We got over a thousand people signed up to our texting service. 46:31.271 --> 46:39.780 [SPEAKER_01]: It's not a group text, but it will send you a text maybe once a week saying, hey, we've got a tune of trip for 520 including TIP or we've got a

C-Bass trip for 300 including TIP. 46:40.200 --> 46:44.343 [SPEAKER_01]: and it'll tell you the times and the dates and all that stuff like that and we go out there and fish hard for you guys. 46:44.803 --> 46:51.987 [SPEAKER_01]: So if you guys want to see that too, you can also go to the website and scroll down to the walk-ons or you can go to phc.com walk-ons, specs, slash walk-ons. 46:52.047 --> 46:54.609 [SPEAKER_01]: And it's going to be there for you guys to go ahead and get your individual trips. 46:54.649 --> 46:56.690 [SPEAKER_01]: Two of you three of you, we can get you out there guys. 46:57.030 --> 47:04.435 [SPEAKER_01]: We're going to be doing a lot of walk-ons for July, for Tunna switching over to Mormai in August and we're going to be doing some C-bass 47:08.377 --> 47:09.458 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know what's right. 47:09.698 --> 47:10.219 [SPEAKER_01]: It's like a cold. 47:10.239 --> 47:10.699 [SPEAKER_01]: It's like a cold. 47:10.739 --> 47:12.280 [SPEAKER_03]: It's 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[SPEAKER_03]: It's like a cold. 47:24.668 --> 47:25.629 [SPEAKER_01]: It's like a cold. 47:25.669 --> 47:26.189 [SPEAKER_01]: It's like a cold. 47:26.209 --> 47:26.790 [SPEAKER_01]: It's like a cold. 47:27.030 --> 47:28.071 [SPEAKER_01]: It's like a cold. 47:28.091 --> 47:29.131 [SPEAKER_01]: It's like a cold. 47:29.171 --> 47:29.652 [SPEAKER_01]: It's like a cold 47:30.775 --> 47:31.135 [SPEAKER_03]: That's right. 47:31.495 --> 47:34.516 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, folks, that's going to wrap up a heart pounding. 47:34.536 --> 47:38.697 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know about you, but my heart rate got up several times with some of the stories because I've been in those situations. 47:38.737 --> 47:45.998 [SPEAKER_03]: I've been near those situations and nothing will get your heart racing faster than feeling like your boat could be going down or somebody else's boat could be going down. 47:46.058 --> 47:49.539 [SPEAKER_03]: So we think the good lord up above for watching off everybody. 47:49.579 --> 47:50.439 [SPEAKER_03]: Safety over the past. 47:50.559 --> 47:51.099 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 47:51.139 --> 47:52.140 [SPEAKER_03]: And we're with. 47:52.540 --> 47:52.780 [SPEAKER_03]: Yep. 47:52.820 --> 47:55.280 [SPEAKER_03]: And wish you guys safe weekend ahead. 47:55.340 --> 47:56.641 [SPEAKER_03]: Please be safe over the fourth. 47:56.721 --> 47:57.881 [SPEAKER_03]: It's going to be so hot. 47:57.921 --> 47:58.501 [SPEAKER_03]: Make sure you have time. 47:58.641 --> 48:10.689 [SPEAKER_03]: Ones of water on board make sure that you're, if you got respiratory or heart health issues, don't mess with it, stay indoors, stay in the AC, go see your doctor before going out, do anything crazy and we'll look forward to catching up to you guys next week. 48:11.610 --> 48:15.813 [SPEAKER_03]: We do have another segment coming up so stay tuned for a quick word from our sponsors and we'll be back with you real soon. 48:16.783 --> 48:20.768 [SPEAKER_03]: The days of heading out and blindly looking 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last time we spoke to you is doing some recognition. 49:37.769 --> 49:41.051 [SPEAKER_03]: But Captain Andy Kim was a she me sport fish and welcome back to show 49:42.845 --> 49:43.786 [SPEAKER_03]: What's going on, man? 49:43.826 --> 49:47.289 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's been a long and hard winter, but glad the summer is here. 49:47.969 --> 49:48.970 [SPEAKER_03]: No doubt about that, man. 49:49.050 --> 49:58.397 [SPEAKER_03]: And before we get into the fishing report, I want to congratulate you on your engagement, as well as your pregnancy announcement. 49:58.457 --> 50:00.419 [SPEAKER_03]: Obviously, your fiance's pregnant. 50:00.959 --> 50:01.380 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 50:01.500 --> 50:01.760 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 50:03.041 --> 50:04.642 [SPEAKER_03]: But congratulations, man. 50:04.722 --> 50:06.263 [SPEAKER_03]: Are you still preaching that, man? 50:06.283 --> 50:08.445 [SPEAKER_03]: You got mad at you, is it exciting? 50:08.485 --> 50:08.665 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 50:12.568 --> 50:20.674 [SPEAKER_02]: life is definitely life from right now, like within a week, I got engaged and found out I'm having a kid. 50:20.714 --> 50:28.320 [SPEAKER_02]: So it's been a wild adventure that I'm super excited for and could ask her better person to be with me. 50:28.360 --> 50:30.101 [SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, I'm excited man. 50:31.012 --> 50:38.335 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know who's more excited, Jenna, your fiance or her mom when I met her mom at the back deck last night. 50:38.355 --> 50:42.056 [SPEAKER_03]: The first thing before she told me her name, she told me that she was about to become your mother-in-law. 50:42.756 --> 50:45.277 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, they're awesome. 50:45.697 --> 50:47.138 [SPEAKER_03]: They're all good. 50:47.638 --> 50:48.158 [SPEAKER_03]: That's good. 50:48.258 --> 50:48.939 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, you know, 50:49.959 --> 50:56.928 [SPEAKER_03]: There's a lot of blessing that comes along with children and all that stuff, so I think it's going to be a great couple of years ahead. 50:57.068 --> 50:57.969 [SPEAKER_03]: I feel like we're going to blink. 50:57.989 --> 51:04.597 [SPEAKER_03]: We're going to be on the show in a couple of years talking about how you just taught your kid how to throw a cast in that and before they walk. 51:06.098 --> 51:32.325 [SPEAKER_03]: 100% 100% that's awesome for those who've never heard your voice before or heard the name says she me sport fish and tell us a little bit about the both that you run and what got you started with fishing in your early days yeah so my bet's a 25 seahawk full tower and it's a as a newer model Yamaha 300 on the back of it 51:33.072 --> 51:35.113 [SPEAKER_02]: but it's the perfect bay boat. 51:35.793 --> 51:43.837 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, in my opinion, a lot of the guys that used like these short bean boats for charter vessels and they're rocky. 51:43.877 --> 51:44.678 [SPEAKER_02]: This one isn't. 51:44.698 --> 51:46.959 [SPEAKER_02]: You got plenty of room on the back of it. 51:47.619 -->

51:50.761 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's definitely a unique looking boat though. 51:50.901 --> 51:52.502 [SPEAKER_02]: I've never seen another boat like it. 51:53.162 --> 51:55.323 [SPEAKER_02]: And we'll got me started. 51:56.204 --> 51:56.664 [SPEAKER_02]: Man. 51:58.745 --> 51:59.325 [SPEAKER_03]: Take us back. 52:01.606 --> 52:13.214 [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, started, like, what started my love of fishing, I would say my dad, like, taking me out when I was three, four, five years old, I mean, taking just croaker fishing. 52:13.234 --> 52:21.599 [SPEAKER_02]: He would never, I was never like, uh, if there's a big fish on, I'm going to get it because my dad's like, not how I'll find out find it. 52:21.639 --> 52:25.982 [SPEAKER_02]: But I was definitely the bait catcher on the boat, but he put me to work when it came to 52:30.367 --> 52:46.394 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, pretty much built that from, from doing that to mating on boats and then finally getting a boat when I was 19 and running my charter through that and then building it all the way up to what it is now I'm 28 and doing it ever since. 52:48.558 --> 52:49.218 [SPEAKER_03]: That's awesome, man. 52:49.258 --> 52:50.820 [SPEAKER_03]: And you have a passion for it. 52:51.000 --> 52:56.083 [SPEAKER_03]: And I got to brag a little bit because we got the chance to go fishing together recently. 52:56.243 --> 53:04.829 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, we took the little makeup out to the windmills and and wouldn't say a little what I look at some of the boats in the marina. 53:05.649 --> 53:11.393 [SPEAKER_02]: She feels well, we also do living, you know, one of the nicer marinas in the area. 53:11.933 --> 53:20.226 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I feel like it's like no surprise seeing like a 42-year-old and come down at Creeaker for you man or like a big sport Fisher's gonna like 53:23.937 --> 53:24.698 [SPEAKER_03]: Like where's your boat at? 53:25.058 --> 53:27.220 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm on the little side. 53:27.240 --> 53:29.883 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you should have dinghy over there. 53:29.903 --> 53:35.247 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, it's like I've joked in the past and like one day I'm going to have a huge boat. 53:35.368 --> 53:36.609 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to name it my dinghy. 53:37.309 --> 53:40.212 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but just kidding. 53:40.392 --> 53:43.895 [SPEAKER_03]: But now it was cool to get to fish next to you. 53:43.915 --> 53:47.499 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, we ran out to the windmills targeting flounder and 53:48.490 --> 53:53.632 [SPEAKER_03]: I think we probably caught 60, and I think you caught 46 of them. 53:54.152 --> 54:12.097 [SPEAKER_03]: It was just, it was a cool, I say that because it was a good learning experience for me that, you know, A, I did not have the same setup that you did and B, I could tell that you had a lot more confidence with your, your hook sets and just knowing what the bite felt like. 54:13.077 --> 54:15.638 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it takes the whole learning and it's getting used to, 54:19.034

--> 54:23.156 [SPEAKER_02]: It's not really like what you put on to get the bite. 54:23.176 --> 54:27.999 [SPEAKER_02]: It's one to set the hook when like knowing how to feel the bite and knowing when to set the hook with these things. 54:28.019 --> 54:30.260 [SPEAKER_02]: Because I mean, they're hungry. 54:30.620 --> 54:31.241 [SPEAKER_02]: They're not. 54:31.461 --> 54:32.341 [SPEAKER_02]: They're not picky. 54:32.561 --> 54:36.063 [SPEAKER_02]: They're going to eat whatever that looks like or imitate a fish. 54:36.964 --> 54:40.846 [SPEAKER_02]: And once they do, it's not that's not the hard part. 54:40.866 --> 54:41.826 [SPEAKER_02]: The hard part is knowing 54:43.251 --> 54:49.812 [SPEAKER_02]: They are flatfish, the mouths instead of word used to opening up and down, there's the right. 54:50.452 --> 54:51.713 [SPEAKER_02]: So it gets a lot right. 54:51.753 --> 54:54.553 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you're a little tricky when it comes to setting the hook. 54:54.953 --> 54:58.134 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I missed a lot a lot, a lot of bites. 54:58.174 --> 55:01.235 [SPEAKER_03]: And I would get so fresh down, look over you and your boat up again. 55:01.255 --> 55:03.695 [SPEAKER_03]: And I'm just like, we're fishing in the exact same spot. 55:03.755 --> 55:05.075 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, what am I doing wrong? 55:05.135 --> 55:05.895 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 55:06.196 --> 55:08.476 [SPEAKER_03]: And the first tip you gave me was like, hey, set the hook. 55:08.536 --> 55:09.196 [SPEAKER_03]: with authority. 55:11.137 --> 55:13.798 [SPEAKER_03]: And then we also made some adjustments to my terminal tackle. 55:14.758 --> 55:16.218 [SPEAKER_03]: But I do think it's funny. 55:16.238 --> 55:23.400 [SPEAKER_03]: You told me a little interesting flounder statistic about how when they're when they're little small flounder to when they grow what happens with their eyes. 55:24.581 --> 55:24.841 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 55:24.861 --> 55:28.782 [SPEAKER_02]: So when they first start out they start out like a regular fish and then as they grow 55:29.373 --> 55:32.414 [SPEAKER_02]: that eyeball starts to rotate around their body. 55:33.155 --> 55:40.298 [SPEAKER_02]: And I don't know if you guys have ever seen a founder, but it has both eyes on one side of the fish and the other side does not have a thing. 55:40.758 --> 55:41.658 [SPEAKER_02]: It doesn't even have color. 55:41.678 --> 55:44.439 [SPEAKER_02]: It's just white, the other side is brown, what two eyes. 55:45.280 --> 55:47.641 [SPEAKER_02]: And yeah, it's a funny thing. 55:47.721 --> 55:50.562 [SPEAKER_02]: Like they all start out looking the same and then. 55:51.533 --> 56:05.533 [SPEAKER_03]: like looking like any other fish and then the ice starts to move around like if that's so weird, you know, they're they're obviously super cool, you know, ambush predators in that sense because we're able to 100% guys themselves down into the sand and dirt. 56:07.235 --> 56:21.561 [SPEAKER_03]: And when you tie up a flounder rig,

I watched you go through quite a few different styles of, you know, you were swapping out weight weights based on the current you were adjusting how high your hook was away from your weight. 56:22.182 --> 56:27.344 [SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, talk us through like when you're choosing a bait for a flounder like you said it doesn't really matter. 56:27.364 --> 56:33.907 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, talk us through the different baits that we use that day that you caught flounder on and which bait in particular that you call your biggest one on. 56:34.884 --> 56:39.828 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh yeah, so the founders just like anything that's in the form of a strip. 56:40.168 --> 56:41.189 [SPEAKER_02]: So it has to loop. 56:41.889 --> 56:46.873 [SPEAKER_02]: It just moves like in the water better and it kind of fools them into taking that. 56:46.913 --> 56:48.034 [SPEAKER_02]: It's like a lot of fish. 56:48.094 --> 56:51.856 [SPEAKER_02]: So I was using Kobe Abelie. 56:52.357 --> 56:53.237 [SPEAKER_02]: That's a good one. 56:53.718 --> 56:58.081 [SPEAKER_02]: And then any, any basically anything white with a strip is good. 56:58.681 --> 56:59.562 [SPEAKER_02]: But um, 57:00.954 --> 57:07.996 [SPEAKER_02]: The crazy one we use because I was like, I mean, screw it, we've caught enough fish. 57:08.136 --> 57:09.516 [SPEAKER_02]: I can start experimenting. 57:10.917 --> 57:13.358 [SPEAKER_02]: We on the way out there, we were looking for a covia. 57:13.878 --> 57:20.960 [SPEAKER_02]: So I pulled the eel out of the live bait bucket and cut them in half and then used his tail for a strip bait. 57:21.320 --> 57:26.701 [SPEAKER_02]: And that's what I caught with the biggest, my biggest founder on and several others. 57:26.741 --> 57:27.842 [SPEAKER_02]: And I was actually shocked. 57:27.922 --> 57:28.822 [SPEAKER_02]: It was hilarious. 57:29.282 --> 57:33.684 [SPEAKER_03]: And actually what really well, you caught someone on it. 57:33.865 --> 57:39.628 [SPEAKER_03]: It was a very tough bait and how did you cut the eel when you put it on? 57:40.108 --> 57:46.651 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, I cut it in like I segmented it out so I put just put cuts throughout his body so it's swim better. 57:46.671 --> 57:47.412 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 57:48.109 --> 58:15.957 [SPEAKER_03]: that was it was just I don't think I didn't even need to do that because they were so fired up down there that you could literally probably drop down a white t-shirt and a former strip and they would either now you're thinking that that's going back to that takes me back to when Austin and then we're throwing water bottles out of red drum just because they were so cool hungry for somebody that's never been out you know founder fishing you know what would you say is like one of the steepest learning curves you know 58:18.813 --> 58:23.657 [SPEAKER_03]: on Instagram, got some messages like, hey, you know, out there, I'm catching sea bass. 58:23.697 --> 58:29.021 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm really want to catch a flounder, but I just keep striking out like, what's what's that big learning curve gap? 58:29.061 --> 58:33.444 [SPEAKER_03]: Let's have things that's probably missing for the average angle that's missing him. 58:33.964 --> 58:36.326 [SPEAKER_02]: Not moving debate is a big thing. 58:36.406 --> 58:38.648 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, so these flounders aren't dumb. 58:38.828 --> 58:43.871 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, if you just sit your bait on the bottom and not move it, they're not going to be interesting eating it. 58:43.952 --> 58:44.032 [SPEAKER_02]: You 58:47.783 --> 58:50.645 [SPEAKER_02]: the founders will hardly ever eat something as dead. 58:51.105 --> 58:54.447 [SPEAKER_02]: So you'll have to move it to imitate something that's alive. 58:54.867 --> 59:01.030 [SPEAKER_02]: Cause like I said, our ambush predator, they lay on the bottom all day and they wait for something to swim by. 59:01.350 --> 59:04.712 [SPEAKER_02]: They don't just go around on the bottom, searching for something dead to eat. 59:05.673 --> 59:07.734 [SPEAKER_02]: So that's a big thing. 59:07.774 --> 59:11.896 [SPEAKER_02]: And another one is just the placement of the bait. 59:12.116 --> 59:14.917 [SPEAKER_02]: Like you want your bait on the bottom, 100% all the time. 59:16.545 --> 59:21.149 [SPEAKER_02]: and you wanted to keep bouncing off the bottom to get these fish fired up to eat it. 59:21.609 --> 59:29.875 [SPEAKER_02]: If you just, if you have a hook that's 13, 14 inches away up the leader, like a sea bass rig, they're not going to go up there. 59:29.915 --> 59:33.578 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, they will sometimes, but they're not going to go all the way up there to pitch your bay. 59:33.918 --> 59:35.359 [SPEAKER_02]: They'll just sit right. 59:35.859 --> 59:41.484 [SPEAKER_03]: And I remember when you wanted to switch over and start catching sea bass, you tied our sea bass rig on which had like 59:46.347 --> 59:49.469 [SPEAKER_03]: continue to catch flounder, but they were always hitting the bottom hook. 59:49.990 --> 59:53.212 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, 100% which proves what you were just saying, you know. 59:53.272 --> 59:55.433 [SPEAKER_03]: So that was a ton of fun, man. 59:55.473 --> 59:56.954 [SPEAKER_03]: I really enjoyed that. 59:57.074 --> 01:00:03.059 [SPEAKER_03]: Thank you again for educating me on some of the things that I felt like once I was starting to get the hang of it. 01:00:03.159 --> 01:00:04.820 [SPEAKER_03]: Unfortunately, the sun was starting to set. 01:00:05.360 --> 01:00:09.588 [SPEAKER_03]: We also have a tough out of pretty serious storm that blew through. 01:00:10.069 --> 01:00:16.200 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it was like a 20 minute blow, but at first, like I was like, oh, God. 01:00:17.135 --> 01:00:20.578 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't have back to back to the little meco, you know, it's an open trip. 01:00:20.999 --> 01:00:31.288 [SPEAKER_03]: So it's it's supposed to take water on and then sell bail it, but it was just a little unnerving being 35 miles offshore and the ankle deep and

water. 01:00:31.308 --> 01:00:37.694 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, in the back of your boat, you're like, hmm, this is strange, but it was the only thing we could do to try to slow the drift down because the wind was. 01:00:38.294 --> 01:00:49.200 [SPEAKER_03]: steady 25 with gust of 35 and all of a sudden it's like four foot, you know, white capers and we're like, um, and of course, we stayed out there little later than we probably should have because we're having so much fun. 01:00:49.580 --> 01:00:51.401 [SPEAKER_03]: And then we worried everybody on land. 01:00:51.421 --> 01:00:53.562 [SPEAKER_03]: It was like eight o'clock before we hit cell service. 01:00:53.582 --> 01:00:54.503 [SPEAKER_03]: They were both out there dead. 01:00:56.013 --> 01:01:01.236 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I came back in the marina and I had literally like 16 missed calls. 01:01:01.276 --> 01:01:04.357 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, oh my god, I think we're dead. 01:01:06.518 --> 01:01:16.443 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, obviously, you've got, you know, extensive bottom fishing experience, but your specialization and what that boat really does such a great job at is Kobe fishing. 01:01:16.503 --> 01:01:18.664 [SPEAKER_03]: So talk us through some of the last couple of Kobe trips. 01:01:18.684 --> 01:01:21.365 [SPEAKER_03]: Let's be going on with the Kobe about here in the lower Chesapeake Bay. 01:01:22.672 --> 01:01:23.793 [SPEAKER_02]: It's been it's been good. 01:01:23.973 --> 01:01:25.054 [SPEAKER_02]: It's been tough though. 01:01:25.294 --> 01:01:30.477 [SPEAKER_02]: It's like these fish are so concentrated on mating right now, and they're just staying close to the bottom. 01:01:30.577 --> 01:01:31.377 [SPEAKER_02]: It's been tough. 01:01:31.517 --> 01:01:35.199 [SPEAKER_02]: Like We're still getting our fish like yesterday. 01:01:35.219 --> 01:01:35.960 [SPEAKER_02]: We took a car out. 01:01:36.000 --> 01:01:41.563 [SPEAKER_02]: We called forca be as killed too, and it got so to the point where 01:01:42.793 --> 01:01:43.894 [SPEAKER_02]: All the fish were on the bottom. 01:01:43.934 --> 01:01:45.235 [SPEAKER_02]: I was like, all right, guys, we're going to pick up. 01:01:45.255 --> 01:01:47.097 [SPEAKER_02]: We're going to throw for macros and stuff like that. 01:01:47.157 --> 01:01:50.920 [SPEAKER_02]: And it picking up like six or seven macros and a blue fish on the way home. 01:01:51.500 --> 01:01:52.881 [SPEAKER_02]: And the guys were cool with it. 01:01:52.961 --> 01:01:54.783 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, that's plenty of me three guys. 01:01:54.803 --> 01:01:59.867 [SPEAKER_02]: You got two cobs and six or seven Spanish macro and a blue fish like. 01:02:00.880 --> 01:02:11.906 [SPEAKER_02]: to be honest with you that's I think about the old time like these these people they get all this meat do they actually eat it all or does it sit in their freezer for like a year and then they they find it and they just chuck it. 01:02:11.926 --> 01:02:17.929 [SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, but yeah, that's a tough thing to think about. 01:02:17.949 --> 01:02:20.230 [SPEAKER_03]: It's something we talk about often on the show, which is. 01:02:20.870 --> 01:02:40.837 [SPEAKER_03]: For lack of a terms, you know, I love like Mike Hosing and Austin Hane and others that, you know, Jack Limeroth, King Thai Charters, I'll promote, you know, hey, just because you can kill, kill it doesn't mean you need to take it and yeah 100% I think I've been Kobe fishing twice I've harvested, you know, one Kobe at each trip and 01:02:41.617 --> 01:02:57.704 [SPEAKER_03]: I think in the past I'm out of been disappointed, you know, but this year I feel a little different, you know, it's like, oh, you know, I've got all that I could eat fresh right now and yeah, I got plenty of, you know, flounder and oh 100% some salmon and mocking the freezer. 01:02:58.344 --> 01:02:58.804 [SPEAKER_03]: Thanks. 01:02:58.904 --> 01:03:05.248 [SPEAKER_03]: You guys all well, you know, thankfully, Sam Ross seafood up in Hampton has the supply of Scottish Saman. 01:03:05.268 --> 01:03:09.771 [SPEAKER_03]: So that's where I'm going to have to I'm going to have to teach you about some Scottish Saman sashimi one day. 01:03:10.211 --> 01:03:10.852 [SPEAKER_03]: See what I did there. 01:03:10.892 --> 01:03:11.372 [SPEAKER_03]: Hopefully. 01:03:11.432 --> 01:03:12.393 [SPEAKER_02]: I love you. 01:03:13.894 --> 01:03:14.314 [SPEAKER_02]: I do. 01:03:14.714 --> 01:03:18.536 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I do like that's the only way I like eating salmon is just raw. 01:03:19.297 --> 01:03:21.018 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, I'm not like it. 01:03:21.138 --> 01:03:24.680 [SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, no, I mean, Kobe fish has been great. 01:03:28.639 --> 01:03:48.043 [SPEAKER_02]: a little on the tough side I wouldn't say it's not it's it's not anywhere near what it used to be and I mean Omega has a big part of that and so the same same with all the hype that's came in with Kobe fishing but I'm not complaining people can do what they want and but it's just been tough 01:03:48.775 --> 01:04:04.959 [SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, we're getting our fish and we're that's the most important part as yeah, as long as it customers are happy and we got fish for them to take home that's all matters and truthfully like even if you go out there for a day and you get to experience fighting one Kobia I mean 01:04:05.479 --> 01:04:08.022 [SPEAKER_03]: That is worth the that is worth the price of admission. 01:04:08.062 --> 01:04:09.484 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, it is so much fun. 01:04:09.504 --> 01:04:14.730 [SPEAKER_03]: There's so explosive, so powerful And like you were saying, it's an incredible meat yield. 01:04:14.750 --> 01:04:22.338 [SPEAKER_03]: So you've got enough for several several meals or feed your entire family or Feed everybody at a wedding or funeral. 01:04:22.398 --> 01:04:24.681 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it's a lot of freaking big exactly. 01:04:24.721 --> 01:04:26.343 [SPEAKER_02]: It is it's a bunch of fish like 01:04:27.791 -->

01:04:34.600 [SPEAKER_02]: Like I would say it's like close to like probably 80% meat yield on the whole fish And and always keep your bellies. 01:04:35.141 --> 01:04:38.065 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah, 100% always keep the ballies keep your bellies. 01:04:38.506 --> 01:04:38.706 [SPEAKER_02]: Wow 01:04:40.841 --> 01:04:41.582 [SPEAKER_02]: I can't remember. 01:04:41.662 --> 01:04:42.622 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm having brain for it. 01:04:42.643 --> 01:04:46.886 [SPEAKER_02]: That's because it's early in the morning of a hot weekend of a hot weekend. 01:04:46.906 --> 01:04:48.367 [SPEAKER_03]: It's about like that. 01:04:48.387 --> 01:04:50.569 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's public service announcement. 01:04:50.649 --> 01:04:52.410 [SPEAKER_03]: Everybody stay hydrated as we can. 01:04:52.670 --> 01:04:54.252 [SPEAKER_03]: It's going to be so hot. 01:04:54.332 --> 01:04:55.232 [SPEAKER_03]: But I am curious. 01:04:55.272 --> 01:04:56.694 [SPEAKER_03]: So back to the Omega thing. 01:04:57.935 --> 01:05:00.016 [SPEAKER_03]: your experience because you're out there every day. 01:05:00.056 --> 01:05:20.143 [SPEAKER_03]: You see the boats coming and going, how have you watched the change in the numbers of cobe that you're seeing as well as like their willingness to eat from early late May till now and how do you feel the omega boats and that ecosystem may or may not impact that? 01:05:20.903 --> 01:05:21.803 [SPEAKER_03]: That's got awful. 01:05:22.223 --> 01:05:22.483 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, 01:05:27.553 --> 01:05:29.334 [SPEAKER_02]: And we saw mega on the horizon. 01:05:29.354 --> 01:05:30.455 [SPEAKER_02]: They're coming. 01:05:30.475 --> 01:05:33.957 [SPEAKER_02]: They're coming to get this bait because they had one of the planes up right above us. 01:05:34.958 --> 01:05:38.400 [SPEAKER_02]: We had several pods of Kobe and side of the the bait balls. 01:05:38.480 --> 01:05:39.401 [SPEAKER_02]: This was last year. 01:05:40.221 --> 01:05:45.705 [SPEAKER_02]: And yeah, we will literally watch America's scoop. 01:05:46.786 --> 01:06:13.677 [SPEAKER_02]: all these bunker up knowing I knew that there had to be close to like 20 to 30 copies if not more I mean that's what you can see I'm right can't you don't know what's underneath of all the bay so it's like it was kind of heartbreaking watching that because they have this like pretty much a rail system on that boat to where nothing bigger can go inside of it but it just gets slammed up against basically a metal mesh. 01:06:14.576 --> 01:06:17.199 [SPEAKER_02]: And sometimes they do survive. 01:06:17.239 --> 01:06:35.719 [SPEAKER_02]: We do see a bunch of cubbies with like these gnarly scars and they're like beat the hell and it's just you can tell that it's from a mega net and from that um that railing system that they have so that they can't kill bigger fish but I mean they end up due and yeah. 01:06:36.809 --> 01:06:39.330 [SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, it's kind of heartbreaking to see that. 01:06:39.630 --> 01:06:46.714 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, there's got no, how many fish have died through that process or like how many fish have been dumped off the side of the boat? 01:06:46.754 --> 01:06:49.895 [SPEAKER_02]: Just, I mean, not, like, can't swim properly. 01:06:49.995 --> 01:06:54.797 [SPEAKER_02]: And not, because I mean, if you catch a big fish, and it's, I mean, it's struggling for his life. 01:06:54.837 --> 01:06:57.278 [SPEAKER_02]: It doesn't know that it's going to get right in the water, right? 01:06:57.518 --> 01:06:58.959 [SPEAKER_02]: It's struggling for his whole life. 01:06:58.999 --> 01:07:02.721 [SPEAKER_02]: And then, um, that's a adrenaline job that they think. 01:07:05.777 --> 01:07:06.958 [SPEAKER_02]: fully reviving the fish. 01:07:07.018 --> 01:07:08.259 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, the fish is dead. 01:07:08.559 --> 01:07:09.840 [SPEAKER_02]: It's going to sink right through the bottom. 01:07:09.860 --> 01:07:10.860 [SPEAKER_02]: It's going to be crap food. 01:07:11.501 --> 01:07:19.606 [SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, you definitely see the numbers of that go down and also just a bunker population. 01:07:19.646 --> 01:07:21.968 [SPEAKER_02]: We have no just no bait in the bay. 01:07:22.028 --> 01:07:22.208 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, 01:07:23.277 --> 01:07:33.899 [SPEAKER_02]: it's been crazy like I have yet to see like a strong like amount of bunker in the bay since James has been out there every single day and I haven't seen a single bunker ball. 01:07:34.339 --> 01:07:43.281 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah and even I saw that one day that we you know lucked out and caught a fish in the afternoon on the ocean side on the income type, pushed some bait balls up boom, bang bang yeah. 01:07:43.721 --> 01:07:46.762 [SPEAKER_03]: And then the next day bait's gone you know and yeah. 01:07:47.382 --> 01:07:47.642 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 01:07:47.722 --> 01:07:48.582 [SPEAKER_03]: I think there's a ton of 01:07:53.563 --> 01:08:12.490 [SPEAKER_03]: I just know that the way that I look at it is, like if you go into anywhere else in nature, if you look at insects, you know, there's animals that rely on the insects for food, and then there's animals that rely on those smaller animals for food, and there's an ecosystem of food chain. 01:08:13.110 --> 01:08:19.513 [SPEAKER_03]: But if somebody came in and eradicated all the insects, you know, what would happen to that next layer of the food chain? 01:08:20.173 --> 01:08:33.664 [SPEAKER_03]: And then the next, you know, and then in the ocean, it's like we're taking the foundational layer of food out of the food chain and pretending as though it's not going to have an impact, you know. 01:08:33.684 --> 01:08:34.224 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 01:08:34.384 --> 01:08:36.106 [SPEAKER_03]: And that's what we're trying to talk about. 01:08:36.706 --> 01:08:41.450 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, tell people all the time, like a bunker that think about like a bee, right? 01:08:42.271 --> 01:08:42.791 [SPEAKER_02]: A honey bee. 01:08:43.592 --> 01:08:45.013 [SPEAKER_02]:

You eradicate all the bees. 01:08:45.693 --> 01:08:46.073 [SPEAKER_02]: What's going to 01:08:49.730 --> 01:08:50.990 [SPEAKER_02]: like, how are you going to grow? 01:08:51.390 --> 01:08:52.051 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you can do it. 01:08:52.351 --> 01:08:52.971 [SPEAKER_02]: You can do it. 01:08:53.031 --> 01:08:56.572 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, um, um, you can do it. 01:08:56.792 --> 01:09:01.133 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, artificial, artificially, that's the word I'm thinking about. 01:09:01.553 --> 01:09:09.815 [SPEAKER_02]: But you can do it artificially, but there's no, like, some, some people in the world, they can't rely on artificially. 01:09:09.935 --> 01:09:15.557 [SPEAKER_02]: So like, same with the monkey, if you eradicate them, the beginning steps of an ecosystem, 01:09:16.284 --> 01:09:16.784 [SPEAKER_02]: It's done. 01:09:17.304 --> 01:09:25.687 [SPEAKER_02]: Like imagine like a human pyramid and you drop kicked the bottom row and everything on top crumbles. 01:09:26.127 --> 01:09:27.367 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, absolutely. 01:09:27.407 --> 01:09:33.789 [SPEAKER_03]: So that was a very violent word picture. 01:09:34.549 --> 01:09:37.830 [SPEAKER_02]: But it's crazy what they're doing though. 01:09:37.890 --> 01:09:40.411 [SPEAKER_02]: And their quota is just kind of outrageous. 01:09:40.511 --> 01:09:41.951 [SPEAKER_02]: I think it's like 3.5 billion 01:09:45.548 --> 01:09:47.129 [SPEAKER_02]: not million, but billion. 01:09:47.889 --> 01:09:55.952 [SPEAKER_02]: So, 999 million plus, like, that's crazy to think about. 01:09:56.052 --> 01:09:57.312 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm actually googling it now. 01:09:57.332 --> 01:09:59.873 [SPEAKER_03]: So, you know, let's see here. 01:09:59.893 --> 01:10:00.774 [SPEAKER_03]: So, the Chesapeake. 01:10:00.814 --> 01:10:02.314 [SPEAKER_03]: So, that's a total. 01:10:02.674 --> 01:10:09.517 [SPEAKER_03]: And then the specific to, so Virginia is the only one that allows them to fish inside of state line. 01:10:09.917 --> 01:10:13.418 [SPEAKER_03]: That's what's unique about Virginia and the Chesapeake Bay cap. 01:10:13.999 --> 01:10:27.763 [SPEAKER_03]: This is hard to think about, but it's it's 51,000 metric tons that there are a lot to take Which is a hundred and twelve Million pounds and I don't even really know how to put that into perspective I'm gonna ask Chad GBT. 01:10:27.883 --> 01:10:37.607 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm gonna say give me a real world example of what a hundred and twelve million pounds looks like 01:10:38.686 --> 01:10:49.351 [SPEAKER_03]: It would be about 560 blue whales, 37,000 passenger cars, or roughly the weight of four empire state buildings. 01:10:50.592 --> 01:10:52.132 [SPEAKER_03]: That is the perfect perspective. 01:10:52.873 --> 01:10:54.093 [SPEAKER_02]: That is insane. 01:10:54.694 --> 01:10:57.415 [SPEAKER_03]: Or if you're a plain person, 280 fully loaded Boeing 737's. 01:10:57.455 --> 01:10:57.975 [SPEAKER_03]: Holy crap. 01:11:02.836 --> 01:11:15.066 [SPEAKER_03]: So, or if you're a full ball person, two million NFL footballs at one pound each, so it just gets absurd to think about. 01:11:15.166 --> 01:11:29.138 [SPEAKER_03]: But, you know, I do want to go back to the Kobe fishing, obviously, we're entering sort of peak Kobe season where more people are getting out there that the winds are kind of shifting gentler to the south makes it accessible for smaller boats, 01:11:34.281 --> 01:11:36.641 [SPEAKER_03]: What are they eating this year? 01:11:36.741 --> 01:11:44.783 [SPEAKER_03]: Are they I feel like and this is my anecdotal opinion I feel like they have been more willing to bite this year than years past. 01:11:45.344 --> 01:11:47.344 [SPEAKER_03]: Is that my imagination or are you noticing this now? 01:11:48.004 --> 01:11:55.166 [SPEAKER_02]: I've got plenty of fish on eels like eels have worked magically this year that and just bucktail's artificial base. 01:11:55.186 --> 01:11:56.526 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm going more artificial than 01:11:59.118 --> 01:12:01.480 [SPEAKER_02]: It's actually a fresh breath of air. 01:12:01.640 --> 01:12:02.621 [SPEAKER_02]: It's like, yeah, my gosh. 01:12:03.102 --> 01:12:06.525 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't have to go catch all this bait in my dock. 01:12:06.605 --> 01:12:11.469 [SPEAKER_02]: I can just go buy a couple of eels and re-g up a couple of booktill rods. 01:12:11.489 --> 01:12:12.490 [SPEAKER_02]: I know I'm okay for today. 01:12:13.436 --> 01:12:15.937 [SPEAKER_03]: They'll actually eat, which is really refreshing. 01:12:16.017 --> 01:12:17.797 [SPEAKER_03]: It's like, oh, they're behaving like fish. 01:12:18.118 --> 01:12:18.478 [SPEAKER_03]: Imagine. 01:12:18.498 --> 01:12:19.578 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, they're kidding. 01:12:19.618 --> 01:12:24.780 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, I mean, I think pretty sure these are one of the fastest growing fish in our area. 01:12:25.440 --> 01:12:28.561 [SPEAKER_02]: And it's surprising to see how many don't eat. 01:12:28.781 --> 01:12:31.282 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, how do you grow so fast and how you get so big? 01:12:31.322 --> 01:12:32.382 [SPEAKER_02]: And you don't eat stuff. 01:12:32.562 --> 01:12:34.543 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, it doesn't make any freaking sense. 01:12:35.153 --> 01:12:38.694 [SPEAKER_02]: Now that we start mating, you, you pretty much just take videos of those. 01:12:39.034 --> 01:12:39.795 [SPEAKER_02]: Just take videos of those. 01:12:39.815 --> 01:12:40.355 [SPEAKER_02]: For going out. 01:12:40.375 --> 01:12:41.035 [SPEAKER_02]: Don't even try. 01:12:41.495 --> 01:12:42.376 [SPEAKER_02]: We call that. 01:12:42.676 --> 01:12:44.556 [SPEAKER_03]: We call that Kobe a sexy time. 01:12:45.157 --> 01:12:45.637 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 01:12:45.717 --> 01:12:45.957 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 01:12:45.997 --> 01:12:47.197 [SPEAKER_03]: Just leave them alone. 01:12:47.818 --> 01:12:48.698 [SPEAKER_02]: Just leave them alone. 01:12:48.738 --> 01:12:49.878 [SPEAKER_02]: Let them do their thing. 01:12:49.938 --> 01:12:52.879 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, we don't need to drill a

bucktail at their freaking eyeballs. 01:12:52.899 --> 01:12:55.721 [SPEAKER_03]: They're, they're not going to eat regardless of how you do it. 01:12:56.181 --> 01:12:56.401 [SPEAKER_03]: Right. 01:12:56.461 --> 01:12:56.721 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 01:12:56.741 --> 01:13:00.682 [SPEAKER_03]: They're very, very much distracted in the moment. 01:13:00.782 --> 01:13:01.503 [SPEAKER_02]: I want to be too. 01:13:05.233 --> 01:13:06.014 [SPEAKER_03]: So question for you. 01:13:06.114 --> 01:13:07.255 [SPEAKER_03]: You said you mentioned bucktails. 01:13:07.295 --> 01:13:10.036 [SPEAKER_03]: Are there any other favorite artificials that you're throwing this year? 01:13:11.077 --> 01:13:31.890 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm actually throwing this no match from a lot and it's it's actually a funny looking thing, but it makes sense a lot of these fish are eating manage shrimp So like I'm throwing this big old sumo shrimp is what they call it and it's like seven inches long and it actually sinks pretty decently I use that and then the three deep glide bait 01:13:32.761 --> 01:13:37.044 [SPEAKER_02]: and mimic some fish and it looks incredible in the water. 01:13:37.984 --> 01:13:41.346 [SPEAKER_03]: So what was the name of that first bait that you mentioned? 01:13:41.466 --> 01:13:42.247 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm looking it up here. 01:13:42.287 --> 01:13:45.028 [SPEAKER_02]: So it's a nomad sumo shrimp. 01:13:45.809 --> 01:13:46.309 [SPEAKER_03]: Sumo shrimp. 01:13:46.409 --> 01:13:46.949 [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, there it is. 01:13:47.850 --> 01:13:48.630 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, interesting. 01:13:49.211 --> 01:13:51.292 [SPEAKER_03]: So it really looks like a big old shrimp. 01:13:52.086 --> 01:13:52.987 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 01:13:53.487 --> 01:13:55.248 [SPEAKER_03]: And I will say I agree with you. 01:13:55.268 --> 01:14:05.896 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, if there's something that I would recommend to anybody that has not done this before is whenever you do get lucky enough to catch any fish, flounder, sea bass, but especially Kovia. 01:14:06.236 --> 01:14:10.980 [SPEAKER_03]: When you're cleaning the fish, take some time and open up the belly and look at what they're eating. 01:14:11.380 --> 01:14:15.283 [SPEAKER_03]: Think about where you call that fish and there's a lot to be learned there. 01:14:16.312 --> 01:14:19.353 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, 100%, you'll learn a lot when you open up them first. 01:14:19.853 --> 01:14:20.833 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, see what they're eating. 01:14:21.073 --> 01:14:23.514 [SPEAKER_03]: Try to match the hats like what the best guys do. 01:14:24.014 --> 01:14:24.234 [SPEAKER_03]: Yep. 01:14:24.614 --> 01:14:26.515 [SPEAKER_03]: And then in the day, I see a lot of management. 01:14:26.655 --> 01:14:30.156 [SPEAKER_03]: When I catch fish out towards like the CB Boos, I see a lot of blue crabs. 01:14:30.216 --> 01:14:32.416 [SPEAKER_03]: And when I catch them off shore, you see a lot of those. 01:14:32.776 --> 01:14:34.777 [SPEAKER_03]: Are they called lady crabs or rose crabs? 01:14:36.317 --> 01:14:39.880 [SPEAKER_03]: those spotted speckled red crabs that are on the bottom of the wall. 01:14:40.521 --> 01:14:43.063 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think I call it calico crabs or something like that. 01:14:43.143 --> 01:14:44.645 [SPEAKER_03]: That's it calico crabs, yeah. 01:14:45.065 --> 01:14:47.688 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, Captain Andy, it's a pleasure having you on. 01:14:47.708 --> 01:14:50.831 [SPEAKER_03]: I know you got to get ready to get out there and go catch some fish for your charger today. 01:14:50.871 --> 01:14:53.073 [SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, folks might be going to say what's up soon now. 01:14:53.693 --> 01:14:55.395 [SPEAKER_03]: Heck yeah, it folks want to get booked with you. 01:14:55.415 --> 01:14:57.417 [SPEAKER_03]: How do they reach out and book a trip on sashimi? 01:14:57.997 --> 01:15:03.398 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, just hit me up on Facebook, Instagram, even TikTok, because for the new age people. 01:15:04.198 --> 01:15:11.800 [SPEAKER_02]: And, uh, any other social media, you go ahead and just hit me up on social media for Fishing LLC, and I'll have all my info there. 01:15:12.040 --> 01:15:16.021 [SPEAKER_02]: If you don't do social media, you can just reach me at 747-818-7308-0. 01:15:16.041 --> 01:15:16.981 [SPEAKER_02]: Awesome. 01:15:17.161 --> 01:15:20.482 [SPEAKER_03]: And thanks for being on the show and good luck today. 01:15:21.002 --> 01:15:21.362 [SPEAKER_03]: Awesome. 01:15:21.502 --> 01:15:21.902 [SPEAKER_03]: Thank you. 01:15:21.962 --> 01:15:22.423 [SPEAKER_03]: See you, Luke. 01:15:23.063 --> 01:15:23.423 [SPEAKER_03]: See you, buddy. 01:15:23.743 --> 01:15:28.484 [SPEAKER_03]: Folks, that's going to wrap up a really great segment talking with Captain Andy Kim, a board sashimi sport fishing. 01:15:28.844 --> 01:15:30.485 [SPEAKER_03]: You'll stick around for a word from our sponsors. 01:15:30.605 --> 01:15:30.865 [SPEAKER_03]: Thanks. 01:15:32.045 --> 01:15:34.806 [SPEAKER_00]: Pure flat slick lures are tried true and got approved. 01:15:35.066 --> 01:15:38.087 [SPEAKER_03]: Slick lures catch big speckled trout, red fish, flounder, and more. 01:15:38.427 --> 01:15:42.789 [SPEAKER_03]: You can cast them a mile and they produce a highly erratic baitfish imitation with a twitching retrieve. 01:15:43.269 --> 01:15:44.729 [SPEAKER_03]: The tournament winning slick has helped many 01:15:47.130 --> 01:15:55.577 [SPEAKER_03]: Whether you're fishing the OG Slick, the smaller profile Slick Jr. or the Versatile Little Slick, one is sure to find that unforgettable bump where all after. 01:15:56.018 --> 01:16:00.822 [SPEAKER_03]: Visit your local tackle retailer or pureflats.com for your favorite color and rigging combination. 01:16:01.222 --> 01:16:02.403 [SPEAKER_03]: Go sling some slicks today. 01:16:02.704 --> 01:16:04.005 [SPEAKER_03]: You can't catch them on the sofa. 01:16:04.225 --> 01:16:10.447 [SPEAKER_00]: Warning, this product contains nicotine, nicotine is an addictive chemical, black buffalo products are intended for adults aged 21 and older who are consumers of nicotine or tobacco. 01:16:10.867 --> 01:16:15.368 [SPEAKER_03]: If you're 21 or older and use nicotine or tobacco, it's time you charge a head to black buffalo. 01:16:15.808 --> 01:16:18.509 [SPEAKER_03]: America's only credible smokeless tobacco alternative. 01:16:18.969 --> 01:16:20.969 [SPEAKER_03]: Black buffalo dips just like the real thing. 01:16:21.169 --> 01:16:30.792 [SPEAKER_03]: But without the tobacco leaf or stem, get it now at wall wall, circle k, sheets, loves pilot, racetrack, and many more that you can see on their store locator at blackbuffalo.com. 01:16:31.292 --> 01:16:35.214 [SPEAKER_03]: Black Buffalo Tobacco Alternative is everything you love about dip, nothing you don't. 01:17:06.975 --> 01:17:07.076 [UNKNOWN]: You