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Thousands of people have
mysteriously vanished in America
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's wilderness. Join us as we
dive into the deep end of the
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unexplainable and try to piece
together what happened. You are
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listening to Locations Unknown.
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What's up everybody and welcome
back to another episode of
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Locations Unknown. I'm your
co-host Joe Erato and with me as
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always is a guy who can slam a
revolving door, Mike
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Vandebogart.
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Thank you, Joe. And thank you
once again to all of our amazing
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listeners for tuning in. Just to
have a few updates here before
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we get going. First, would like
to give a thank you to some new
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Patreon shout outs. So thank you
to Kylie Amato, Andrea Broger,
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Kelly Leadingham, Ashley Kenny
Rebecca Hadden and Diane
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Paraitis.
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I think you got it.
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Awesome.
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Paraitis.
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I'd also like to give a thanks
to our research help on this
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episode, Cherish Green. So thank
you so much for helping out.
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sorted out here so apologize to
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The subscribers got kicked off,
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Yeah, it pauses them, and then
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days. Yeah, we got demonetized
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be back.
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Super controversial stuff.
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Yeah, not really.
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We were reposting National Park
videos because we thought they
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were public domain.
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A long time ago. We haven't done
it in a while.
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Well, and we thought they were
public domain, so we were just
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reposting them.
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We only did it because their
website where they keep the
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videos is awful. Yeah.
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We were creating playlists for
the different parks we were
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talking about so it was kind of
they were kind of cool videos
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actually we should plug that was
the idea we talked about is
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potentially starting another
channel that we don't monetize
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yeah just to organize the
National Park videos for people
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to watch yeah we may still do
that yeah so if you like that
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idea and you can get each of you
get 10 followers to come on our
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show then.
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Let us know so we're also on
Apple subscriptions spreaker our
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new host has a subscription
platform And did I miss any?
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I don't know. That's a lot of
them. Anywhere. Anywhere where
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you do anything, we're there.
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You can also support the show
through buying merchandise from
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the show. We've got bumper
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All the fun things.
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Website store, Facebook store,
all that kind of stuff. Joe, you
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have a few updates.
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I do have a few updates. So I'll
tell you one update on the media
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company. We've been meeting. We
have some plans. So it's
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exciting. We have a new show
coming out. If you've been
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following us on social media,
you saw a teaser for it. That's
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going to be starting up soon.
I'm very excited. So I'll I'll
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leave it at that.
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We're not doing it. It's a
partner we're bringing in.
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Yeah, that's unnecessary
information.
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Oh, well, we'll cut it. Okay.
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No, we won't.
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We'll cut that.
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Oh, that's super loud. Holy cow.
If I'm hearing it through my
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headphones, that must be
obnoxious.
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Sorry, a motorcycle drove by.
That's crazy. That was the music
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from it. It was like the South
Park.
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Like all the guys
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rolling
through town. This is ruining
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everyone's good time. Yeah. So
anyway. One thing we didn't
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mention in the last episode, but
we were posting on socials, we
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entered in a partnership with
Farmhouse Soaps out of
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California.
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Longtime listener and fan of the
show, Suzanne Moak, creates
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these, and she put together this
package. It's a travel package
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with some lip balm and three
different types of soaps with
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all-natural products. They're
fantastic. I used them. They're
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great. And her branding was so
awesome.
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She named, like, I think the...
Lip stuff is off the deep end.
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Yeah. Like there's a bunch of
our location profile. There's
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different names relative to the
show. So you can go check that
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out at Farmhouse Soaps. We'll
put the link in the bio. I'll
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repost it on socials too with a
link.
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They're great and they're not
very expensive.
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No, it's like 12 bucks for the
whole kit.
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And you're supporting our show
and you're supporting a small
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business.
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Yeah, it's like 12.
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For the whole kit so it's it's
it's a good it's a good get yeah
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and then and then one last thing
i didn't see what she did what
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she did about the moon us oh
that'd be awesome that would
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have been that would have been
fantastic that's what we need to
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make the show go 80 year old
moon yeah oh that's the best
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anyway last one and i promise
we're getting to it because i
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know the people that hate that
we take long are really mad i
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just wanted to give a shout out
to a small product.
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I met the owner in Colorado. I
was out there with my kids
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hiking and it's called M N T N
ready. And it's, it's mountain
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ready. And it's this, it's kind
of like when you see like the
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flavor packets, he put in water.
Yeah. It's basically that.
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However, it's a bunch of
vitamins and minerals and things
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to help you with altitude
sickness.
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Oh, cool.
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And I have two people in my
family that were with me that
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normally get altitude sickness.
And we climbed a mountain. We're
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up high. They're taking this.
Zero issues.
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Nice.
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Like no effect at all. So I'll
put some information about that
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in there as well. I'll post
online because it's just a great
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product. You can only get it
from the website. They're real
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small right now. I'm hoping they
get huge and then they sponsor
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the show in a more formal way.
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Yeah, so they're not sponsored.
This is just a personal
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recommendation by Joe.
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Yeah, it's a great product that
works. So go give them some of
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your money. Get some of their
product. And then hopefully
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they'll give us some of their
money later.
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There you go.
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To talk about it again. All
right, everybody, let's gear up
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and get out to explore Locations
Unknown, February 23rd, 2019.
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After embarking on a solo 10-day
trek through the Sierra Nevadas,
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A First Division Marine with
mountaineering and survival
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training never returned.
Thirteen agencies searched for
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more than a week with no clues.
Join us this week as we
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investigate the disappearance of
Matthew Kraft.
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So in this episode we are going
to the Inyo National Forest,
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specifically Independence,
California to Bridgeport,
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California of the Sierra Nevada
mountain range.
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About 195 miles.
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195 miles. So it's the Sierra
High Route that we're talking
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about. This route was created by
Steve Roper in the 1980s.
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Described in his book, Sierra
High Route Traversing Timberline
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County, published April 30th
1907 1997 and actually we found
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out it was i believe 1982 when
it was published oh yeah so you
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didn't update it nope you just
read about it yes okay okay the
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Sierra High Route is mostly a
back country route beginning in
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the indio national forest and
runs through Yosemite National
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Park concluding in Twin Lakes
just southwest of Bridgeport
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California so the main search
area was in the cursage pass
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trail beginning at the end of
Onion Valley Road, traveling
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through the John Muir Wilderness
Indian National Forest Cursage
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Pass Trail.
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It is four miles to the top of
the 11,700-foot pass. It
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continues into Kings Canyon
National Park to join the John
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Muir Trail at Bullfrog Lake.
That is 6.5 miles from the
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Cursage Pass Trailhead to John
Muir Trail Junction.
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Get all that straight in your
head.
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I know, right? So the It's
Californians in that area that
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know it. So it'll be like, you
were just talking about it, the
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SNL skit. The Californians.
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Take that to the John Muir
Trail.
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Yeah, it just continues through
Kings Canyon National Park to
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join the John Muir Trail at
Bullfrog Lake. It's only 6.5
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miles from the Curset Patch
Trailhead to John Muir Trail
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Junction.
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Devin, what are you doing here?
There's going to be so many
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people that have no idea what
that is. Yeah. Look up the
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Californians SNL skit. It's
actually quite hilarious.
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All right, so anyway, it was
established May 25th, 1907, and
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sees an annual of 4 million
visitors per year. It is
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estimated that only about 10
people hike the entire
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195-mile-long trail each year,
however, with more traffic
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coming from section hikers in
the various national parks and
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trails that are along the route,
as well as hikers doing
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parallel, more tame John Muir
Trail, which is only 77 miles.
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So For those who don't know, on
these long trails, you can do
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one of two things. You can be a
through hiker, where you go from
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the start to the finish in one
shot. So it can take days,
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months, however long it is. Or
you can be a section hiker,
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where over the course of a long
period of time, you hike
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different sections to then
eventually complete the trail.
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Yeah. And I think this just
shows how difficult this pass
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is, that only about 10 people do
it. Like, you know. The full
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trail every year.
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Yeah, do more people do the PCT
than that?
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Yeah, that's wild.
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Way more. Yeah. I think when we
get into the timeline and
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everything, you'll realize how
difficult, especially the time
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of year this guy was doing it.
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Oh, he's a Marine. That's why he
's doing it.
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Yeah, well, yeah.
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With the experience. All right,
so we'll talk a little bit about
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the habitation of the area. The
origin and meaning of Inyo is
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believed to be a point for the
dwelling place of the Great
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Spirit. The Innu National Forest
was named for Innu County, in
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which the greater part of the
forest is located.
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At the time of the earliest
contact with Europeans and the
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beginning of written record
roughly 200 years ago, the
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forest was home to the Owens
Valley and Mono Lake plot in the
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north, the Shoshone, Kawusu, and
Tabatulabal in the south.
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And the Muic in Mano to the west
and northwest. I know you were
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grinning the whole time you were
writing this and looking through
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it, weren't you?
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Much is unknown about the first
peoples who utilized and shaped
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the forest beginning 12,000 to
13,000 years ago, though it is
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known that the Owens Valley Poit
and their Shoshone neighbors to
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the south and east practice
similar ways of life, following
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seasonal rounds to harvest
plants, animals, and insects at
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different elevations and locales
as they become available.
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This land where their desert
meets mountains was first
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reserved for its timber, water,
and forage. The forest today
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remains home to many Pot, Mano,
and Shoshone tribes along the
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Sierra Front and a destination
for about 4 million visitors
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from around the world each year.
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So we'll talk a little bit about
the climate. And according to
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our friends at the Copen Climate
Classification System, the
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Kearsearch
Pass and Peak have an
alpine climate with weather
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fronts originating in the
Pacific Ocean traveling
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eastward.
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Toward the Sierra Nevada
mountains as French as the
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fronts approach they are forced
upward by the peaks causing them
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to drop their moisture in the
form of rain and snowfall onto
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the range think of it like
wringing out a towel yes that's
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a great way to think about it as
the weather is going up the
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mountain temps can vary 20 to 30
degrees fahrenheit as you change
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elevation so in the foothills
you can expect to have mild wet
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winters hot dry summers and the
precipitation from January to
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me.
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Summer rain is rare. Average
rainfall is about 26 inches or
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66 centimeters for our European
listeners. Low hanging clouds
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obscured the countryside for
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We'll get... Why is that in
millimeters?
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We'll just skip that.
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Yeah, I don't know. 1,246
millimeters of snow on average
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in the February in Sequoia
National Park.
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Okay. Sequoia Groves. Deep
blankets of snow in the winter
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from December to May. Summers
offer warm days and cool
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evenings, 40 to 45 inches of
precipitation annually.
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Winters tend to be harsh at
these high elevations with
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avalanches and snowstorms
regularly reported and
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anticipated. Many of the motor
accessible roads are closed off
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from December to March due to
the harsh weather conditions. So
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the best time to visit? May to
October. Worst time to visit?
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December to March.
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Shocking.
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The terrain it's forest alpine
tundra and lakes as we said
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there's avalanches snow bridges
high winds and glaciers there
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are 33 passes and in those
you'll boulder fields talus
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slopes granite slabs occasional
meadows and lake basin basins
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elevations range anywhere from
9600 feet to 11 700 feet and
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we'll talk about a little bit of
the animals in the area outside
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of the harsh conditions.
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In the low elevation, you have
gray fox, bobcat, skunks, black
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bear, wood rats, gophers, mouse,
snakes, California kingsnake,
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and California newts. In the mid
areas, we have mule deer, black
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bears, mountain lions, a variety
of birds, and reptiles are not
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that common, but occasionally a
mountain kingsnake or boa,
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rubber boa, or western fenced
lizard and alligator lizard will
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be seen. When we get up to the
high country.
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Obviously less mammals as food
is scarce so we have marmots i
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love marmots so much they are
pretty funny they're so oafy
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yeah you're i always post videos
of them when i see them like
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when they're getting baths and
stuff they look like they're
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just appalled and confused all
the time love marmots let's see
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we have a bunch of different
birds i'm not going to read all
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these we might occasionally see
a mountain yellow-legged frog
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though or Sierra Nevada bighorn
sheep those are both endangered
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species All in all, there are 14
amphibians, 11 types of fish,
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200 types of birds, 72 mammals,
21 reptile species that all live
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in the park.
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So, difficulty in general. You
definitely need a permit to do
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this, which you can get in
advance via the Sequoia Kings
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National Park or Yosemite
National Park. Trail less, it's
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so good, route finding and map
compass skills are essential. So
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if you don't know how to
navigate without a trail, don't
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do this.
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No.
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The search area that was for
this case was larger than the
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state of Rhode Island, which is
like crazy because we say like
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these, when we're doing these
parks, we talk about their sizes
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so much and compare them to
states. But think about trying
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to find a single person in Rhode
Island.
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And it's all wooded.
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And alpine. Yeah, and alpine. It
's not just flat ground.
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Yeah, and you only have like. A
few hundred people, maybe. I
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don't know how many people are
in this search. We didn't get
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there yet. But difficult snow
year with rough conditions. 200%
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of the average snowfall was in
2019.
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Yeah, so this year, the time you
went missing, a lot of snowfall.
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Yeah, so the avalanches were up.
Snow bridges were an issue.
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Cornices were an issue. Multiple
points of potential issues. And
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dizzying altitudes will all play
a role. So, Mike, let's learn
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about Matthew Craft.
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Yeah, so the subject of our case
today is Matthew Kraft. He was
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born 8-23-1994. He went missing
February 23, 2019. His remains
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have not been found. He was a
male, age 24. He was 6'1", 185
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pounds, blonde hair, a short
cut, obviously a Marine with
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that, you know, low entire, what
's the Marine haircut called?
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High and tight or something? I
don't know. I got that, Butcher.
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I'm going to look it up.
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So clothing and gear he was last
seen in. So he was known to wear
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dark, earth-tone colors. He had
a large Osprey backpack, rain
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cover, shadow gray. He had a
mustard-colored tent.
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Let's see here. He had black and
blue ski boots, white, red,
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black, diamond. Skis he had
orange crampons he had a
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headlamp he had he had a
sleeping system called a quick
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point developed for extreme
weather down to minus 20 degrees
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he had an iphone in a case and
he had oakley sunglasses and he
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did have a walter water
filtration system with him so
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obviously being a Marine And
we'll get into a little bit of
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his training.
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He was very prepared for
surviving in the cold. And I
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don't know if Joe's got, Joe
will have some pictures here if
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you're watching the video of
this. Personality of Matthew,
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friends and family described him
as a sweet and honest young boy,
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responsible and driven as a
teen, and incredibly fit and
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conscientious, conscientious, I
can't say that tonight, in his
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military tenure.
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And his Marine colleagues
described him as an exceptional
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officer, unlike any they'd
previously met. So all around
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sounded like a really great guy.
He was very passionate about the
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Marine service. And you just
really got to salute anyone
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that, you know, joins the
military to serve the country.
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So here's some quote. Here's a
quote from someone in the
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Marines. Many Marines say they
love the Marine Corps. Wrote
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First Lieutenant Isaiah Eduardo,
a platoon leader in the same
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company with Kraft. They get
tattoos of the eagle, the globe,
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and the anchor on their chests
and put stickers on their cars
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to let everyone know.
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But a special kind of Marine
needs no words, symbols, or
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proclamations to describe their
love for the Corps. Their love
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is found in late nights at the
office, their stoicism in harsh
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conditions, genuine concern for
subordinates, and an adherence
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to what is right regardless of
the situation.
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These Marines live on through
their influence and deeds,
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setting the example for the rest
to come. Matt was one of these
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Marines. So that's really high
praise for someone.
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Yeah, it's really nice.
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It sounds like he probably was
one of the best human beings
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that you could possibly meet, a
real nice guy outside of work
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and very passionate about what
he did.
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So occupation. He was a platoon
leader with the 1St Battalion,
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7Th Marines At 29 Palms, which
is part of the 1St Marine
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Division at Camp Pendleton. He
absolutely loved skiing and
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mountaineering, hiking, fishing,
and just the outdoors in
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general. According to 1st Marine
Captain Paul Ganey, he has the
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skills to survive in...
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Harsh environments and we're
hoping for the best here. So he
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had done some hiking in, he did
a 14 day hike from New Hampshire
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to Canada. And he's hiked the 40
peaks of the White Mountains in
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New Hampshire, and he had plans
to do the Appalachian Trail.
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So experience in the wilderness,
obviously we said he was an
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infantry officer course and
winter mountain leader course
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graduate from the Winter
Mountain Warfare Training
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Center. And after his death, he
was promoted from first
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lieutenant to the rank of
captain.
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Obviously this gentleman was
very well trained in winter
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survival and just, you know,
based on his experience, outside
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of the Marines, just all the
hiking he did in New Hampshire.
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And, probably one of the more
experienced people we've talked
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about on the show.
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Yeah. There's, the other one was
also, he wasn't a Marine, was
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he? He was, or was he like an
Army Ranger or something?
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Him Crumbo, I believe. Yeah.
Yeah. He was, I. I may get the
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facts wrong, but he was in the
military, maybe Army Ranger in
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Vietnam. Okay. And he survived a
helicopter crash.
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Yeah, that's like our two
military guys are also like
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survival experts and everything.
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So experience at this location,
he had hiked this same exact
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route in the summer of 2018 to
get an idea of what the trail
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would be like. And he also went
through mountaineering training
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twice with the Marine Corps at
Bridgeport, preparing for high
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altitudes and... Harsh
conditions. So very, experienced
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in the outdoors.
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It actually had hiked this trail
in the past. Obviously summer
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hiking is different than hiking
it in February, but all around,
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I would say out of anyone we've
talked to, like I said, he's
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probably been the most prepared
for what he was actually going
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to do. So that's what makes his
disappearance, that much more
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troubling.
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So just a couple of people
involved in this case. So Greg
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Craft, That is his father, and
this was the main point of
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contact for the media. And
Roxanne Craft, obviously his
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mother, and she mainly handled a
lot of the updates on social
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media, which mainly was Facebook
at the time.
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So getting right into the
timeline, we're going to start
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it on February 23rd of
2019. So
with private approval from the
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Marine Corps, Craft sets out
with his plan to ski and hike
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through the Inyo National Forest
into Kings Canyon National Park
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on a 195-mile northbound 10-day
trek. Joe already did a great
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job explaining this trail in his
location profile.
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Thank you, Mike. That's very
nice of you to say.
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You're welcome.
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So he parked his Jeep Wrangler
near the Kearsarge Trailhead
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beginning his planned trek. His
plan was to hike northwest out
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of Kearsarge Pass February 24th
and hike. Out near the Twin
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Lakes area by Bridgeport on
March 4th or 5th.
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He had meticulously left plans,
brought extirpations, and built
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in several days in case of
changes he might encounter.
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And if you go back to the show
notes, Joe, we have a link for a
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likely route that he might have
taken, and you can check it on
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AllTrails just to get an idea
of...
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The terrain oh it's in the show
notes show notes yeah here i'll
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click to it yeah just keep keep
going i'll pull it up all right
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well i clicked on it so find
that yep so now it's March 4th
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of 2019 so this was when Matthew
was reported missing to the Mono
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County Sheriff's Office by his
father Greg Craft and he did
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this when he didn't hear from
him as Matthew should have
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finished his trek by the fourth
or fifth so and he had last
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spoken to his father two days
before setting out so okay there
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we go Joe if you're just
listening we have one of the
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likely routes that Matthew might
have taken pulled up here on all
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trails and just to give you the
idea of looking at the elevation
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changes 64 000 feet of elevation
going over 213 miles that is
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that is wild laughs.
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That's insane. That's climbing
up Everest twice.
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Yeah, that's...
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Like from zero, from sea level.
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Yeah.
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Because when you do Everest,
you're starting up some... Like,
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hi, you're not starting at zero.
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Yeah, you start at pace camp.
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But it's, what, 30-some thousand
feet?
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29,000, I think.
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Oh, it's over 30.
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No, I'm pretty sure it's not.
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Oh, can we do money? Can we do
money? I think it's 31,000 feet.
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I think it's like 29,500.
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All right, how much money?
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Let's see who's right oh i hope
i'm right 29 oh good thing i
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didn't figure out how to make
money i thought it was over 30
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000 feet no that's even crazier
than because then it's like
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almost three everests yeah it's
not it's 30 it's almost 30 so
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Joe's good at math i'm terrible
so yeah that is that is insane
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elevation gain obviously That
takes you many weeks to do.
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213 miles.
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That's insane.
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And he was doing this in
February, which guarantee, we
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know for a fact there was...
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Now hold on.
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Okay.
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If he's skiing, the downs will
go real fast.
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Yeah.
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So there's probably a benefit
to, if you know what you're
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doing, doing it in the winter so
you don't have to like really do
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too much on foot, you're sliding
the most.
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There's a motorcycle brigade
coming through here that's
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insane all right keep going
it'll get mostly blocked out the
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South Park where they're all
just like remember that episode
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and just ruining everything i
mean i i love milwaukee in the
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summer but one of the things i
can't stand sorry to anyone
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listening if you're harley rider
but i just can't stand harley's
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they're so loud yeah well they
they make them unnecessarily
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00:27:00,890 --> 00:27:04,040
loud around here so Gosh, where
was I?
453
00:27:04,641 --> 00:27:06,261
Oh, we were talking about how
long this is.
454
00:27:06,300 --> 00:27:09,360
How insane. Now, this is a
likely route. We don't know if
455
00:27:09,403 --> 00:27:11,181
this is the exact route he took.
456
00:27:12,899 --> 00:27:17,165
But this just gives you an idea
of the terrain, what it would
457
00:27:17,204 --> 00:27:18,040
take to do this.
458
00:27:20,024 --> 00:27:20,681
I'm just in shock.
459
00:27:22,399 --> 00:27:25,884
We've never done a trail that
had 64,000 feet of elevation
460
00:27:25,962 --> 00:27:26,212
gain.
461
00:27:26,213 --> 00:27:26,931
Yeah, I know, right?
462
00:27:28,712 --> 00:27:31,962
Yeah, so he planned to ski a lot
of this.
463
00:27:32,656 --> 00:27:36,941
So, yeah, I wonder if he
snowshoed up and skied down.
464
00:27:36,942 --> 00:27:40,742
It still doesn't diminish the
accomplishment.
465
00:27:41,343 --> 00:27:44,210
No, no, not at all. I'm not
saying that to diminish. I'm
466
00:27:44,211 --> 00:27:46,531
just saying, oh, okay, like he
could have done it a little,
467
00:27:46,570 --> 00:27:48,273
maybe a little bit faster. I
don't know.
468
00:27:49,476 --> 00:27:52,773
I'm sure like if anyone could
have done this, you know, over
469
00:27:52,788 --> 00:27:55,538
the average, it would have been
him. Yes. Based on just his
470
00:27:55,726 --> 00:28:00,476
character profile. Absolutely.
So, like we said, he had left
471
00:28:00,585 --> 00:28:03,521
back to the timeline. Like we'd
said, he'd last spoken to his
472
00:28:03,562 --> 00:28:06,144
father two days before setting
out, so that would have been the
473
00:28:06,824 --> 00:28:10,410
21st. And he was reported
missing on the 4th or 5th of
474
00:28:10,464 --> 00:28:10,793
March.
475
00:28:12,472 --> 00:28:17,332
Or not, the 4th of March. So,
Motto County Sheriff's Office
476
00:28:17,355 --> 00:28:20,652
began searching near Trailheads
in the Bridgeport area, hoping
477
00:28:20,683 --> 00:28:22,964
that he'd made it to his
northern destination.
478
00:28:24,543 --> 00:28:27,449
Utilizing cell phone forensics,
they discovered that his last
479
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:31,368
phone activity was in the
Independence area, near... An
480
00:28:31,468 --> 00:28:35,228
Onion Valley trailhead parking
lot approximately 195 miles
481
00:28:35,330 --> 00:28:37,888
south of Bridgeport, closer to a
starting point.
482
00:28:39,767 --> 00:28:45,494
So March, it's March 5th now of
2019. So now other agencies are
483
00:28:45,510 --> 00:28:49,767
starting to get involved in the
search. So Inyo County Sheriff's
484
00:28:49,877 --> 00:28:54,220
Office, Search And Rescue,
joined the search. Crafts friend
485
00:28:54,408 --> 00:28:57,314
Isaiah Gerardo decides to head
to the trailhead near
486
00:28:57,377 --> 00:28:57,830
Bridgeport.
487
00:28:58,412 --> 00:29:00,834
Where he was supposed to pick up
Matthew after not hearing from
488
00:29:00,835 --> 00:29:05,578
him. He received a call from
Matthew's dad, Greg Kraft, that
489
00:29:05,621 --> 00:29:08,285
alarmed him after having spent
most of the day at the trailhead
490
00:29:08,965 --> 00:29:09,684
waiting on Matthew.
491
00:29:12,348 --> 00:29:17,220
Fast forwarding now to March 8th
of 2019, it's around 9pm, Kraft
492
00:29:17,220 --> 00:29:18,379
's rented two-door...
493
00:29:22,973 --> 00:29:24,379
It's crazy night tonight.
494
00:29:24,519 --> 00:29:26,535
Holy cow. It's wild out there.
495
00:29:28,484 --> 00:29:30,884
All right. Just keep going.
They'll, it will block most of
496
00:29:30,885 --> 00:29:31,925
it out. Even if we can hear it.
497
00:29:32,005 --> 00:29:33,846
Yeah, no, you don't, you don't
have to keep telling me to keep
498
00:29:33,866 --> 00:29:35,866
going. All right, I'll go. We're
professionals here.
499
00:29:36,124 --> 00:29:36,386
All right.
500
00:29:37,909 --> 00:29:43,464
So like I said, it's March 8th
of 2019, 9 PM. Crafts rented two
501
00:29:43,487 --> 00:29:47,034
door grade. Jeep Wrangler is
found in lower gray's meadow,
502
00:29:48,612 --> 00:29:52,096
which is the onion value parking
area above Independence,
503
00:29:52,112 --> 00:29:54,628
California, approximately two
miles from the Kearsarge
504
00:29:54,846 --> 00:29:55,237
Trailhead.
505
00:29:57,810 --> 00:30:01,433
Let's see here and we got a
picture of the jeep so it's
506
00:30:01,472 --> 00:30:05,754
still March 9th so it's the day
six of the search Onion Valley
507
00:30:06,097 --> 00:30:10,683
Onion Valley Road is closed due
to heavy snow and rock fall so
508
00:30:11,183 --> 00:30:15,222
they had to use snow cats to
transport the search teams and
509
00:30:15,223 --> 00:30:18,175
we may have pictures of that oh
there's one i got it pulled up
510
00:30:18,425 --> 00:30:24,081
yeah so At 8,000 feet, two miles
from the trailhead, debris of a
511
00:30:24,101 --> 00:30:27,001
recent avalanche was found with
evidence of smaller avalanches
512
00:30:27,181 --> 00:30:29,759
as well in chutes across the
road.
513
00:30:30,681 --> 00:30:36,517
Fresno County Sheriff provided
aerial reconnaissance, CHPH80,
514
00:30:37,298 --> 00:30:41,001
H40, and Air National Guard,
reporting several significant
515
00:30:41,111 --> 00:30:43,783
avalanches throughout the Sierra
backcountry and along the Sierra
516
00:30:43,829 --> 00:30:44,283
High Route.
517
00:30:48,648 --> 00:30:52,520
So now it is March 10th. Ground
searches at this time were
518
00:30:52,539 --> 00:30:55,324
canceled due to bad weather and
danger of avalanches. It sounds
519
00:30:55,363 --> 00:30:59,860
like we said earlier that they
had gotten over 200% snowfall
520
00:30:59,899 --> 00:31:04,858
this year. So that obviously
leads to a higher avalanche
521
00:31:04,899 --> 00:31:07,478
danger. And it sounds like
they're happening just all over
522
00:31:07,479 --> 00:31:08,099
the backcountry.
523
00:31:09,841 --> 00:31:12,700
Probably pretty hazardous to
hike and search.
524
00:31:13,161 --> 00:31:15,161
You can see, look at the snow up
against this house.
525
00:31:15,302 --> 00:31:15,481
Yeah.
526
00:31:16,185 --> 00:31:18,583
Let's see how far I can zoom in
without it getting too gnarly.
527
00:31:19,755 --> 00:31:20,317
That's crazy.
528
00:31:21,302 --> 00:31:24,005
Yeah, it's definitely up to the
base of the roof. Yeah. So I
529
00:31:24,006 --> 00:31:26,677
don't know how, I mean, that's a
one-story building. I don't know
530
00:31:27,036 --> 00:31:27,739
if it's standard.
531
00:31:27,802 --> 00:31:30,520
But that's a lot
of snow. Eight
or nine feet? Yeah. Yeah.
532
00:31:30,958 --> 00:31:31,699
That's a lot of snow.
533
00:31:32,119 --> 00:31:34,901
Yeah, so think like, you know,
we say it's dangerous to hike in
534
00:31:34,902 --> 00:31:37,526
it, but so these searchers have
to go out in this. So, I mean,
535
00:31:37,983 --> 00:31:41,948
the searchers are just
susceptible to avalanche dangers
536
00:31:41,972 --> 00:31:44,909
as a hiker would be. Yeah,
absolutely. So more credit to
537
00:31:44,933 --> 00:31:46,855
these, you know, people going
out there to search.
538
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:53,487
So after the ground search was
canceled due to the bad weather
539
00:31:53,925 --> 00:31:59,003
and danger, some airbase
searches commenced.
540
00:32:00,050 --> 00:32:02,573
Sequoia and king's National Park
joined in on the search
541
00:32:02,632 --> 00:32:07,616
providing another helicopter the
boundary now for the search
542
00:32:08,796 --> 00:32:11,483
started at the top of cure
search pass and extended for
543
00:32:11,624 --> 00:32:14,804
approximately 70 miles of the
Sierra High Route so that is a
544
00:32:15,085 --> 00:32:18,288
massive area to be searching and
look at these conditions they're
545
00:32:18,335 --> 00:32:23,366
searching in i mean yeah it's
just crazy at least it's like
546
00:32:23,460 --> 00:32:26,916
nice out yeah can you imagine if
it's like snowing or blizzarding
547
00:32:26,976 --> 00:32:29,160
like on top of it you wouldn't
be able to go out there and yeah
548
00:32:29,340 --> 00:32:32,301
it would be you'd be losing so
many more people yeah so
549
00:32:33,722 --> 00:32:37,449
aircraft utilize thermal and
night vision imagery they use
550
00:32:37,527 --> 00:32:42,715
this technology called rico
r-e-c-c-o technology to find
551
00:32:42,730 --> 00:32:47,652
people buried under at an
avalanche and they did find a
552
00:32:47,699 --> 00:32:52,386
heat spot but it was found to be
a hibernating bear oh geez yeah
553
00:32:54,038 --> 00:32:55,419
They also found other areas.
554
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:56,500
That's kind of really cool.
555
00:32:56,782 --> 00:32:57,821
Yeah.
556
00:32:57,822 --> 00:32:59,723
Like you can find the hotspots
right away.
557
00:33:00,364 --> 00:33:02,704
Yeah. So, you know, they
searched other areas that they
558
00:33:02,727 --> 00:33:06,969
got, you know, signatures of
heat, but nothing, you know,
559
00:33:07,649 --> 00:33:11,469
provided any clues to where
Matthew might've been. So it's
560
00:33:11,579 --> 00:33:17,844
now March 11th, 2019. So
avalanche experts being towed on
561
00:33:17,938 --> 00:33:21,985
skis by the snowcat deployed to
clear the east route and assess
562
00:33:22,047 --> 00:33:23,625
the risk of future avalanches.
563
00:33:25,738 --> 00:33:27,938
Oh, and there's a cool picture
of one of the guys getting
564
00:33:27,979 --> 00:33:28,258
towed.
565
00:33:29,719 --> 00:33:32,258
I'll get there. You can't talk
about pictures I'm not showing.
566
00:33:32,259 --> 00:33:37,778
I'm
just talking to myself here.
March 16th now, 2019, a search
567
00:33:37,903 --> 00:33:40,559
moved to limited continuous mode
due to severe weather
568
00:33:40,598 --> 00:33:44,739
conditions. Thick clouds
hampered the aerial search, and
569
00:33:45,785 --> 00:33:50,645
the winter weather made the ski
and ground searches just unsafe.
570
00:33:50,879 --> 00:33:54,648
So, and... There was another
forecasted storm coming in that
571
00:33:54,749 --> 00:33:56,870
Saturday afternoon that was
going to last through the
572
00:33:56,871 --> 00:33:57,249
weekend.
573
00:33:57,351 --> 00:34:02,413
So just a really tough
environment to search in. Like
574
00:34:02,437 --> 00:34:06,398
we said, they had record amounts
of snow that led to frequent
575
00:34:06,483 --> 00:34:11,405
avalanche warnings in the area.
So the final news release about
576
00:34:11,406 --> 00:34:18,530
the Search And Rescue operation
was published with the NC Web
577
00:34:18,671 --> 00:34:20,233
Incident Information System
going.
578
00:34:20,642 --> 00:34:23,386
To inactive status, meaning no
updates would be posted, but
579
00:34:23,444 --> 00:34:25,667
anyone looking for info about
the search would remain
580
00:34:25,847 --> 00:34:29,854
accessible. So, but however, the
link to it now doesn't work any
581
00:34:29,933 --> 00:34:34,433
longer. It is now August of
2019, so we're fast forward a
582
00:34:34,456 --> 00:34:37,620
few months. So with most of the
snow melted and granite rock
583
00:34:37,698 --> 00:34:43,229
exposed, Kraft's family resumed
the search for Matthew, handing
584
00:34:43,245 --> 00:34:45,042
out hundreds of flyers to hikers
in the area.
585
00:34:45,933 --> 00:34:48,589
And search teams once again
combed the area for evidence
586
00:34:48,636 --> 00:34:53,917
with and still found no signs of
Craft so i have some theories on
587
00:34:53,936 --> 00:34:59,217
this but it's now September 28th
of 2019 the family held a
588
00:34:59,218 --> 00:35:04,335
memorial service near their home
at the first congregational
589
00:35:04,421 --> 00:35:08,522
church of washington more than
215 people came to show their
590
00:35:08,553 --> 00:35:15,600
respect so that's nice yeah now
at some point in 2021 Kraft's
591
00:35:15,678 --> 00:35:16,163
alma mater.
592
00:35:16,802 --> 00:35:21,147
Rumsey Hall School established
the Matthew C. Kraft 09 Memorial
593
00:35:21,366 --> 00:35:24,608
Reward for leadership created to
honor Matthew's memory and to
594
00:35:24,671 --> 00:35:27,835
fund a student outdoor
leadership trip prior to the
595
00:35:27,874 --> 00:35:30,936
student's senior year, which is
really cool. It is cool. Nice
596
00:35:30,975 --> 00:35:31,397
gesture.
597
00:35:32,397 --> 00:35:37,327
That's how I got into all this
was doing these types of trips
598
00:35:37,343 --> 00:35:38,483
when I was in high school.
599
00:35:38,749 --> 00:35:39,186
Interesting.
600
00:35:39,843 --> 00:35:41,421
The show wouldn't exist and we
wouldn't have met.
601
00:35:42,202 --> 00:35:47,307
Wouldn't have happened. Yep. In
all, there was an... An amazing
602
00:35:47,347 --> 00:35:52,010
amount of resources in the field
looking for Matthew. Here's just
603
00:35:52,030 --> 00:35:55,112
a list of some of the
organizations involved. The
604
00:35:55,151 --> 00:35:59,557
Marine Corps Air National Guard,
Monaco County Search And Rescue,
605
00:35:59,659 --> 00:36:02,299
Inyo County Sheriff, Fresno
County Sheriff, Yosemite
606
00:36:02,362 --> 00:36:06,260
National Park, Air National
Guard, and the California Office
607
00:36:06,261 --> 00:36:07,479
Of Emergency Services.
608
00:36:08,410 --> 00:36:12,094
They also had some really cool
search methods. They used, like
609
00:36:12,095 --> 00:36:16,117
we said, those special snowcat
units that would do a rope tow
610
00:36:17,058 --> 00:36:20,160
up to the Onion Valley parking
area near Independence,
611
00:36:20,199 --> 00:36:20,824
California.
612
00:36:21,605 --> 00:36:24,363
They also had two avalanche
experts leading the search team
613
00:36:24,472 --> 00:36:31,238
as they navigate real
avalanche-heavy areas. So one
614
00:36:31,316 --> 00:36:33,957
final note before we get into
theories. This was a pretty
615
00:36:34,035 --> 00:36:37,211
recent case, so individuals with
any information Guardian Crafts
616
00:36:37,251 --> 00:36:40,410
whereabouts should immediately
contact the Inyo County Sheriff
617
00:36:40,410 --> 00:36:45,615
's Office at 760-878-0383,
option 4.
618
00:36:46,318 --> 00:36:49,146
You could also contact the Mono
County Sheriff's Office at
619
00:36:49,302 --> 00:36:56,412
760-932-7549, option 7, or the
Fresno County Sheriff's Office
620
00:36:56,443 --> 00:37:04,372
at 559-600-8400. And if you For
additional inquiries, please
621
00:37:04,412 --> 00:37:08,056
contact the 1St Marine Division
Press Officer, Captain Paul
622
00:37:08,115 --> 00:37:15,345
Ganey, at 760-725-9226, or you
can email him at paul.ganey,
623
00:37:15,439 --> 00:37:19,853
that's G-A-I-N-E-Y, at usmc.mil.
624
00:37:20,525 --> 00:37:26,478
So anyone knows anything about
this? It's obviously been a few
625
00:37:26,494 --> 00:37:30,603
years since it happened, but,
you know, the Marines declared
626
00:37:30,604 --> 00:37:36,602
him dead. So The family got
closure in a sense by that, but
627
00:37:37,043 --> 00:37:42,485
obviously his remains were never
found. So going into theories,
628
00:37:42,727 --> 00:37:42,930
sorry.
629
00:37:44,492 --> 00:37:48,594
So the likely theory from the
Marines was that he died of
630
00:37:48,617 --> 00:37:52,430
exposure from severe winter
weather. On scene Search And
631
00:37:52,431 --> 00:37:57,024
Rescue experts believe he was
overcome by severe weather and
632
00:37:57,039 --> 00:37:59,961
exposure due to the increased
avalanche activity in the area.
633
00:38:01,806 --> 00:38:06,311
Family and friends, so Matthew's
father, Graycraft, has kept a
634
00:38:06,370 --> 00:38:09,975
candle lit since March 16th, the
day after the Marine Corps
635
00:38:10,038 --> 00:38:13,296
officially pronounced Matthew
dead to guide Matthew home. He
636
00:38:13,358 --> 00:38:16,382
thinks Matthew made it through
the Kearsage Pass through the
637
00:38:16,383 --> 00:38:19,819
bad weather as he had traveled
30 miles a day in the White
638
00:38:19,850 --> 00:38:26,335
Mountains in New Hampshire and
was strong as a moose. So that's
639
00:38:26,336 --> 00:38:27,178
what family thinks.
640
00:38:27,210 --> 00:38:31,103
Here's just some other opinions
you know scraped from the
641
00:38:31,123 --> 00:38:37,326
internet from most explainable
to crazy so here's some of the
642
00:38:37,327 --> 00:38:40,146
most explainable obviously
theory number one he succumbed
643
00:38:40,147 --> 00:38:43,748
to bad weather and wind exposure
due to the really bad storms and
644
00:38:43,802 --> 00:38:47,732
avalanches in the area sadly one
of the theories was he might
645
00:38:47,733 --> 00:38:51,904
have gotten crushed or buried in
an avalanche another theory was
646
00:38:51,919 --> 00:38:54,748
he fell down the side of one of
the steep granite peaks or
647
00:38:54,794 --> 00:38:58,810
gorges or slick and icy snow
slopes that was covered in snow.
648
00:39:00,190 --> 00:39:03,710
Another really plausible one was
a snow bridge collapse. Those
649
00:39:03,711 --> 00:39:07,534
can be really dangerous because
you can't tell it's a snow
650
00:39:07,573 --> 00:39:10,612
bridge when you're on top of it.
And there's not like a map of
651
00:39:10,651 --> 00:39:11,229
snow bridges.
652
00:39:11,635 --> 00:39:14,237
Yeah. You're just going to be
stuck falling down. Yeah. And
653
00:39:14,238 --> 00:39:16,253
you think it's solid ground and
then just drop out from
654
00:39:16,299 --> 00:39:16,768
underneath you.
655
00:39:17,049 --> 00:39:20,753
Yeah. So snow bridges can be
really dangerous in areas like
656
00:39:20,799 --> 00:39:25,909
this. So locals from the area, I
just had a couple quotes from
657
00:39:26,221 --> 00:39:26,737
people that...
658
00:39:27,310 --> 00:39:30,333
Live in the area and a first
gentleman said i was in the area
659
00:39:30,374 --> 00:39:33,717
the week of his disappearance i
remember that storm very well it
660
00:39:33,718 --> 00:39:37,463
was the worst winter weather
i've ever seen and i'm a snow
661
00:39:37,503 --> 00:39:42,346
abuler he said i chase blizzards
another person wrote the
662
00:39:42,424 --> 00:39:46,065
avalanche forecast indicated
this tour was basically suicide
663
00:39:46,143 --> 00:39:51,034
by adventure from the outset so
locals in the area said it was
664
00:39:51,096 --> 00:39:54,315
some of the worst winter weather
they've ever experienced and
665
00:39:54,503 --> 00:39:57,266
places like this experience A
lot of winter weather.
666
00:39:57,426 --> 00:39:59,172
So that's right when he started.
667
00:39:59,371 --> 00:39:59,975
Yeah, so for people.
668
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:03,324
People that live there to say
this was the worst they've seen
669
00:40:03,325 --> 00:40:06,727
in their lives, like, you know
it's bad. Because the Sierras
670
00:40:06,785 --> 00:40:11,688
get a ton of snow. I mean,
they're not strangers to snow.
671
00:40:11,812 --> 00:40:13,156
Thousands of millimeters.
672
00:40:19,281 --> 00:40:24,000
So one of the off the deep ends
was he ran into a hibernating
673
00:40:24,062 --> 00:40:26,828
black bear while looking for
cover from a storm and
674
00:40:27,531 --> 00:40:29,516
unfortunately met his demise.
675
00:40:30,124 --> 00:40:32,884
I wouldn't say that's off the
deep end yeah i guess it's not
676
00:40:32,925 --> 00:40:35,767
off the deep end but not
plausible that's what cherish
677
00:40:35,825 --> 00:40:39,825
thinks is off the deep end so
which is fine i would say off
678
00:40:39,826 --> 00:40:43,567
the deep end would be like an
alien alien or vortice yeah it's
679
00:40:43,630 --> 00:40:47,013
like that's off the deep end
like a bigfoot that like a snow
680
00:40:47,044 --> 00:40:51,216
bigfoot yeah i mean or a
baronado yeah baronado yeah.
681
00:40:51,217 --> 00:40:53,185
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682
00:40:53,231 --> 00:40:55,403
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683
00:40:55,513 --> 00:41:00,378
one yeah i think fell into a
tree well i don't think is that
684
00:41:00,398 --> 00:41:05,501
insane okay yeah that's not i
mean are there gonna be a lot of
685
00:41:05,525 --> 00:41:09,470
trees at that elevation well you
wouldn't know yeah if you and if
686
00:41:09,486 --> 00:41:11,829
you're skiing down so when that
's gonna happen is when you're
687
00:41:11,868 --> 00:41:14,665
skiing yeah and he's gonna get
too close to a tree for those
688
00:41:14,666 --> 00:41:18,087
who don't know a tree well is
like a snow packs around in
689
00:41:18,088 --> 00:41:21,056
these areas if you have a tree
that's full-size tree it's like
690
00:41:21,057 --> 00:41:24,369
an evergreen and snow starts
falling around it It might not
691
00:41:24,469 --> 00:41:26,190
pack into where the base of the
tree is.
692
00:41:26,210 --> 00:41:28,153
So if you're skiing next to the
tree and all of a sudden you
693
00:41:28,154 --> 00:41:31,880
just fall down into the quote
unquote well where the tree is,
694
00:41:32,919 --> 00:41:34,958
if you use your skis on, you can
get stuck upside down in the
695
00:41:34,981 --> 00:41:35,317
snow.
696
00:41:36,177 --> 00:41:40,067
Only thing is I think you would
find the remains in the spring.
697
00:41:41,583 --> 00:41:42,770
If you know where to look.
698
00:41:43,020 --> 00:41:45,802
Yeah. I mean, I guess we're
talking about a search area the
699
00:41:45,833 --> 00:41:46,958
size of Rhode Island. Yeah.
700
00:41:47,083 --> 00:41:49,692
So like I know they didn't think
he made it too far from the
701
00:41:49,708 --> 00:41:53,093
start, but still it's a huge
area. So, and then as spring
702
00:41:53,133 --> 00:41:55,858
comes, it will overgrow and
things like that. So I don't
703
00:41:55,859 --> 00:41:57,417
think that one's that crazy.
704
00:41:57,858 --> 00:41:58,960
No, that isn't actually.
705
00:41:58,961 --> 00:42:00,381
What do you think? What are you
thinking?
706
00:42:01,358 --> 00:42:04,928
I think the most plausible
explanation is probably
707
00:42:05,085 --> 00:42:09,850
avalanche related. I think it
sounds like there were so many
708
00:42:09,944 --> 00:42:14,178
avalanches going on that he
probably, unfortunately, it was
709
00:42:14,288 --> 00:42:16,116
the weather probably already was
bad.
710
00:42:16,319 --> 00:42:18,459
How many did they say during the
search? Like two or three?
711
00:42:18,803 --> 00:42:19,913
A lot of them. I don't remember.
712
00:42:19,914 --> 00:42:21,022
And they searched for like a
week.
713
00:42:21,404 --> 00:42:24,646
Yeah, it was bad enough they had
to call off the ground search
714
00:42:24,687 --> 00:42:25,787
because of avalanches.
715
00:42:26,748 --> 00:42:31,275
Yeah, that's insane. Yeah, I'm
on the avalanche train with you.
716
00:42:31,276 --> 00:42:33,775
Yeah, and you think about, like,
an avalanche. So if he's in,
717
00:42:33,978 --> 00:42:38,556
like, driving heavy snow, he's
not going to be able to see it
718
00:42:38,588 --> 00:42:40,885
coming. Like, it's not like a
clear blue day out.
719
00:42:41,260 --> 00:42:42,650
Oh, like if it's storming?
720
00:42:42,822 --> 00:42:44,588
Yeah, if it's storming and it's
windy.
721
00:42:44,589 --> 00:42:45,322
Oh, I didn't think about that.
722
00:42:45,635 --> 00:42:48,775
Like, if you're on a mountain
that has a lot of snow and an
723
00:42:48,806 --> 00:42:52,471
avalanche starts, like, And it's
a clear blue day. I mean, you
724
00:42:52,491 --> 00:42:57,315
can see it coming. Yeah. It's
not like the speed of light. Not
725
00:42:57,495 --> 00:42:59,440
saying that you could get out of
its way, because it could be.
726
00:43:00,299 --> 00:43:05,041
Yeah, but people have out-skied
it and avoided it.
727
00:43:06,182 --> 00:43:09,846
But if you're in a heavy, severe
storm, or even at night, if you
728
00:43:09,847 --> 00:43:13,190
did any night hiking, and the
wind is whipping around you and
729
00:43:13,191 --> 00:43:15,877
the snow is coming down, and you
can't see two feet in front of
730
00:43:15,878 --> 00:43:17,862
you, you're never going to see
it coming. Yeah.
731
00:43:17,863 --> 00:43:21,574
It's just going to hit you.
Yeah. And think of how far it
732
00:43:21,615 --> 00:43:24,818
might move him then, too. Like,
it may bury him or it may, like,
733
00:43:25,759 --> 00:43:29,900
you know, it may throw him off
the side of the mountain. And
734
00:43:29,901 --> 00:43:32,744
the fact that we don't know his
exact route, he could have been
735
00:43:32,822 --> 00:43:33,283
anywhere.
736
00:43:34,267 --> 00:43:37,204
Yeah, if he's skiing and, like,
snowshoeing or whatever to get
737
00:43:37,267 --> 00:43:39,579
up, he's going to go down the
way that makes the most sense at
738
00:43:39,580 --> 00:43:40,095
the time.
739
00:43:40,517 --> 00:43:42,861
And I don't believe he had any
kind of, he didn't have, like, a
740
00:43:42,876 --> 00:43:47,533
beacon on him or anything, like
an avalanche beacon or anything
741
00:43:47,579 --> 00:43:53,610
like that, which. If the one
thing I would say that maybe it
742
00:43:53,610 --> 00:43:56,348
's too bad he didn't have was if
I, you know, if I was going to
743
00:43:56,387 --> 00:43:59,453
be hiking somewhere like this in
February, which I wouldn't.
744
00:43:59,993 --> 00:44:00,172
Yeah.
745
00:44:00,750 --> 00:44:01,633
I not.
746
00:44:01,774 --> 00:44:03,297
Cause you're none of the things
he was.
747
00:44:03,453 --> 00:44:07,274
I'm not at all trained to handle
that kind of conditions. I would
748
00:44:07,305 --> 00:44:10,899
definitely have one of those
beacons on me. Yeah. I agree
749
00:44:10,914 --> 00:44:13,477
with you. Not saying that. I
mean, you're going to survive
750
00:44:13,524 --> 00:44:17,947
that, but at least. They'll be
able to find your remains and
751
00:44:17,948 --> 00:44:20,366
your family would get closure
from it. Now, I'm not
752
00:44:20,429 --> 00:44:21,929
criticizing him at all.
753
00:44:21,930 --> 00:44:25,234
I mean, he knew what he was
doing.
754
00:44:25,296 --> 00:44:26,132
He knew what he was doing.
755
00:44:27,632 --> 00:44:31,241
So I'm just saying personally,
like, I think I would have a
756
00:44:31,257 --> 00:44:32,179
beacon like that.
757
00:44:34,601 --> 00:44:36,148
So what do you think?
758
00:44:36,866 --> 00:44:40,507
I'm with you. I think avalanche,
if so many avalanches were
759
00:44:40,554 --> 00:44:42,663
happening, they couldn't even do
the search.
760
00:44:42,913 --> 00:44:43,070
Yeah.
761
00:44:43,900 --> 00:44:45,842
I don't even think about the
fact that he might even got hit
762
00:44:45,843 --> 00:44:47,865
by one and didn't know it until
it was too late.
763
00:44:47,885 --> 00:44:50,568
That's what I think. I mean,
like you said, I guess if you're
764
00:44:50,666 --> 00:44:54,108
on skis, you could try and get
away from it. But yeah, it
765
00:44:54,170 --> 00:44:56,490
sounded like the weather was
getting really bad right when he
766
00:44:56,576 --> 00:44:58,717
started. Yeah, that's
unfortunate. If you're in an
767
00:44:58,733 --> 00:45:01,483
avalanche hits you well, you're
never going to see it coming.
768
00:45:01,484 --> 00:45:02,576
Do you think he made it very
far?
769
00:45:03,668 --> 00:45:07,987
I bet. I mean, it depends on, I
mean, we don't know where he
770
00:45:07,988 --> 00:45:11,409
went.
771
00:45:11,608 --> 00:45:14,691
It sounded like it couldn't have
been more than 20 miles.
772
00:45:15,230 --> 00:45:17,808
Yeah. So you think like the
first day he probably got.
773
00:45:17,809 --> 00:45:21,425
If the storm hit then, why not?
If anything, if he's not skiing
774
00:45:21,456 --> 00:45:22,675
through it, he's going to take
shelter.
775
00:45:22,972 --> 00:45:23,128
Yeah.
776
00:45:23,456 --> 00:45:25,847
And
imagine if you take shelter
and you get hit by an avalanche
777
00:45:25,848 --> 00:45:26,534
or something like that.
778
00:45:26,550 --> 00:45:29,237
I mean, someone as smart as him,
he may even have tried to turn
779
00:45:29,253 --> 00:45:33,657
around. Yeah, maybe. Something
happened. Maybe. I mean, he
780
00:45:33,677 --> 00:45:35,317
could have fallen too. Yeah.
781
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:37,641
I think avalanche.
782
00:45:38,302 --> 00:45:41,122
In the Tetons, we hiked an area
where we had to cross a
783
00:45:41,567 --> 00:45:47,052
snow-covered pass. I mean, I was
going across it with one hand
784
00:45:47,130 --> 00:45:48,231
holding the mountain because.
785
00:45:48,794 --> 00:45:50,927
I didn't have And you were
shaking and crying.
786
00:45:51,177 --> 00:45:54,380
No. But I just had regular
hiking boots on, and the snow
787
00:45:54,411 --> 00:45:56,895
was slippery. I mean, one
misstep and I would have gone
788
00:45:56,927 --> 00:45:57,614
tumbling down.
789
00:45:57,895 --> 00:45:58,958
Yeah, that would have been no
good.
790
00:45:59,067 --> 00:46:02,944
But now imagine just the whole
mountain is just Yeah. Lizard.
791
00:46:03,004 --> 00:46:07,526
And I can't even imagine. I
mean, this guy was bad-ass for
792
00:46:07,925 --> 00:46:14,105
attempting it. Yeah, absolutely.
But sadly, sadly his remains
793
00:46:14,144 --> 00:46:16,589
haven't been found yet. It's
still, you know, a relatively
794
00:46:16,667 --> 00:46:19,386
fresh case. So maybe, you know,
there's hope the family will
795
00:46:19,433 --> 00:46:21,136
get, you know, final closure
from that.
796
00:46:22,636 --> 00:46:25,230
But it's, it's sad cause it
sounds like he was a really cool
797
00:46:25,276 --> 00:46:25,526
guy.
798
00:46:27,714 --> 00:46:30,495
And, everyone loved him and he
was really passionate about the
799
00:46:30,496 --> 00:46:33,854
Marine Corps and Those are the
kind of people you want in the
800
00:46:33,873 --> 00:46:34,155
world.
801
00:46:34,715 --> 00:46:35,676
Yeah, absolutely.
802
00:46:37,137 --> 00:46:37,977
But other than that.
803
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:39,559
I don't have anything else.
804
00:46:40,801 --> 00:46:44,746
I think for me this case is
pretty clear cut, which is
805
00:46:44,785 --> 00:46:45,926
unusual for our cases.
806
00:46:46,223 --> 00:46:46,825
Yeah, I think so.
807
00:46:48,481 --> 00:46:51,075
I think it's definitely
exposure. It's just what type of
808
00:46:51,106 --> 00:46:53,887
exposure. Was it avalanche? Was
it just the weather and he
809
00:46:54,028 --> 00:46:56,496
succumbed to maybe getting lost
in time?
810
00:46:56,575 --> 00:46:59,505
Yeah, I just feel like. It had
to have been a freak of nature
811
00:46:59,506 --> 00:47:00,507
because this guy was too good.
812
00:47:00,808 --> 00:47:03,370
Yeah, I would say accident above
just succumbing.
813
00:47:03,511 --> 00:47:05,132
I think like an avalanche. I
agree with you.
814
00:47:05,691 --> 00:47:07,937
Yeah, so it would have to be
something pretty gnarly, I
815
00:47:07,938 --> 00:47:13,038
think, to get him. Well, let us
know what you all think. And
816
00:47:13,117 --> 00:47:15,867
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