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Hey, hey, welcome to Life After Nursing School.
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I'm your host, Caroline Dana, aka Nurse Coach Caroline.
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And I'm here to help you, the new nurse, thrive in your career.
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As a former nurse recruiter, nurse manager, and now your personal new nurse career coach, I'm obsessed with making sure you don't just survive your first couple of years at the bedside.
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I want you to absolutely rock them.
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From the challenges to the triumphs, I'll be right here with you, giving you the real-world advice and support that you need to shine.
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Whether you're in nursing school getting ready for life after, or you're already out there in nurse life feeling overwhelmed or even questioning your confidence, I've got your back.
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I'll be sharing tips, tricks, resources, and strategies that are just for you.
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We'll dive into everything from landing that dream nursing job to slaying imposter syndrome, and most importantly, how to keep that spark alive and stay the vibrant and amazing nurse that you are.
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So if you're ready to tackle the things nursing school did not cover, like how to build a career, trust yourself, and keep your passion strong, then get comfortable because we are about to dive in and make nurse life the best life.
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Today I'm sitting down with Nurse Mel Van Sistine, and I have to tell you, this conversation goes in a lot of directions, but I think that's also what makes Mel's story so relatable.
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Mel started her healthcare career as a CNA before becoming a registered nurse, and even that journey wasn't perfectly straightforward.
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She failed the NCLEX on her first attempt, came back and passed it on the second attempt, and eventually landed where she truly felt like she belonged, pediatric bedside nursing.
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And Mel didn't just tolerate the bedside, she loved it.
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She became a charge nurse, mentor, and preceptor.
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She received multiple Daisy Award nominations, and in her words, she felt like she was born for the bedside.
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But then an injury to her lower spine completely changed the trajectory of her career.
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Mel spent months away from the bedside recovering and going through physical and occupational therapy, and ultimately had to confront the possibility that the nursing career she thought she would have might look very, very different.
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And somewhere in that unexpected chapter, she found a creative outlet that eventually grew into Mel's Crafty Corner, her award-winning small business and online community.
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But this conversation is so much more than just entrepreneurship.
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We talk about failing and trying again mental health, workplace bullying, physical injury, identity, social media, entrepreneurship, and what it looks like to keep moving forward when life takes you somewhere you absolutely did not plan to go.
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Mel is candid, funny, emotional, and unapologetically herself.
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And I think there are so many moments in this conversation that nurses are going to relate to.
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So if your career hasn't gone according to plan, or you're currently trying to figure out what the heck your next chapter is, I think you need this episode.
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All right, let's get into the conversation today with Nurse Mel.
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All right, everybody.
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I am so excited to welcome Melanie Van Sistine.
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Did I say that right, Mel?
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Um, it's like the van and then the Sistine Chapel.
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Perfect.
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Van Sistine.
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Love it.
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I'm welcoming her to the show.
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Guys, we've already been chit-chatting and I don't even know.
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I think we're not in our right minds today.
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So this should be.
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It's been 20 minutes.
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It's been an interesting beginning.
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So hopefully, you know, you have patience with us this episode because we're both drinking coffee.
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I'm on my third cup, should not have it, but I'm gonna.
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I just got the notification that my internet is unstable.
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Perfect! Are we all?
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Yes.
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Say it louder for the people in the back.
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Right?
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Oh my gosh, but I got a cute little tour of her Mel's crafty corner in her new house.
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I love the lavender, like that light purple.
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It's so bright and soft and sweet.
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Color science, color theory.
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Tell me more.
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Was that did I get it right?
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It's a good thing that lavender is a beautiful color.
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We love that.
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We love that for us.
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Okay, Mel, I know you have literally so much to share.
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She's already told me she has tools in the tool belt uh like three times.
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Whatever that means, we have not
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figured out yet.
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But Mel, tell us about your nursing journey.
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Like, especially, you know, once you became a nurse.
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I mean, you can of course give us the back if there was like some pivotal moment as to why you wanted to be a nurse and from there.
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But I know your story is not traditional.
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It doesn't, I don't think it was linear, I don't think it was easy.
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Oh no.
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Oh no, but people need to hear it because I am really saying no one's life after nursing school has really been easy and straightforward and you know no one's life ever is ever perfect.
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Amen to that.
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You know, Taylor Swift has her problems.
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Does she?
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Maybe it's gonna be she has a pri.
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I mean, I know she values her privacy, and so true.
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When are we gonna see those wedding pictures?
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Rude.
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I'm happy that she can keep those close to her heart, just for her and her husband.
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I love that for her.
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Do you like her new music?
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Because I'm obsessed with Patient Zero.
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I am a Swifty through and through.
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That woman has gotten me through what a lot of my circle could not.
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So thank you, Taylor Swift.
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And yes, just yes to all everything that you said.
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My story, my journey has been unconventional, a little out there, and just like there's a lot, you there's a lot of words in the dictionary, right?
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And how do I put a bow on it, you know?
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Uh we're doing the best we can uh with the tools that we got, and nursing school taught us a lot, we know that, but there's so much that they didn't teach us, and I can't wait to discuss more about that.
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So tell me, like, where did you go to nursing school?
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I graduated from high school in 2013 in Green Bay, Wisconsin, GoPacco.
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Okay, and I moved to Milwaukee to study nursing.
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I went to just our local university, UWM, Panther Pride, RAR.
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And it took me five and a half years to like get my bachelor's of science in nursing.
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Why it did, and that's okay.
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It's okay.
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Did you take like a year off?
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Did you have to like repeat a class?
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No, no, I had to work
fucking hard.
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I love to hear it.
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Okay, yeah, nothing good happens quickly or overnight.
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Yes, fact.
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And I'm sorry for the all the people that have a lot of assumptions about Mel and her brain and body and what's happened to her, and what's true, and what's not true, and my truth, and your truth, and whatever.
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Yeah, I don't remember what my point was because window of tolerance is a thing, and um yeah, I I've been through a lot and I've been in therapy a lot.
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I've seen a lot, and I understand suffrage.
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Yeah, I understand rights.
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Nursing school teaches you a lot about like anatomy and autonomy and things, but the world seems to maybe teaching us uh different things based on certain factors, right?
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Like I'm a human being, you're a human being, we're complex human beings.
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And my story is different than yours.
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Where I grew up is different than where you grew up.
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I don't know where you're located, but I know you're an hour ahead of me, so I know you're the time zone that you're in.
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And that's really cool, but it's just my big my biggest goal during pre-during and after nursing school is what can I do to help me, help you, help we, and there's so much to give and gain in this beautiful magical world that we live in, Earth, planet, whatever, plane of existence, we'll call it.
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And there's just so much greed.
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I know, and so much uh grief, and so it's just it can be so much sometimes, and uh, sometimes our brains and bodies don't know how to handle some external factors, yeah.
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And we know this because we know the brain and the body.
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Do you know about the homunculus?
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The the the hum what it's okay.
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Let me educate you.
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Please do.
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The homunculus is a little part in our brain.
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I think it's back here, actually.
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It's it's like it's tucked away.
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It's high little secret compartment.
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It's a secret little drawer, right?
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And in this drawer is if you Google what a homunculus looks like, okay, it's really funny.
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It looks funny, it looks awkward, it looks it feels like the name's fitting.
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The name is fitting.
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I think it's Latin for little man.
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Homunculus means little man, whatever the like
term used to describe words.
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I took that class in college, but I can't remember what that I think you're talking about Latin.
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It is, I think it is Latin too.
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That's whom regardless, it's Latin for little man, and it is our our sensory perceptor.
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So when we feel things or things happen to us, or we feel pain, or we get hurt, yeah.
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That part of our brain, it gets it the signal, it gets back there.
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And then it tells us, tells our brain and our body, and what we're telling ourselves what we need to do next to get to the next point.
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It's like this, it's one of our survival mechanisms.
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Kind of like it, does it like um start fight or flight?
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Or it's it helps with it helps aid in fight and flight for sure, but it's basically like our center for how we talk to ourselves.
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Oh.
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That's where my Mel's negative self-talk, ooh, she hangs out back there.
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And there have been times in my existence where she was really like that part of the brain was like really quiet or dismissed or ignored or not believed or X, Y, and Z.
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And that part of the brain, when it gets hurt or injured, or damaged, or bruised, the wiring that it sends to that part of your sensory is kind of messed up.
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It's not right, it's not how it should be, because that's not how you were born, that's not how your physiology, genealogy, your makeup.
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I don't know what other word you want to put to it, but like it's we're complex, you know?
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So that I've learned in something that I I wrote down and I want to say this to the universe nursing school teaches you a lot, right?
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It taught me anatomy, physiology, chemistry, biology, microbiology, mathematics, fundamentals, health assessment, pathophysiology, pharmacology, that's a fun one, medical, surgical, you know, clinical skills, gotta have those fundamentals, mental health.
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Okay, they touch on it.
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There's probably a chapter in the book.
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I don't know what your nursing school taught you about your community engagements and resources and outreach, but that's a different discussion.
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Obstetrics, gynecology, pediatrics.
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I'm a peas nurse by trade.
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That's my background and specialty.
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I'm a peeds nurse, geriatrics, nutrition, psychology, sociology, thank you.
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Words are hard sometimes, communication, research slash evidence-based practice.
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If I never have to write another EBP paper, I will be so happy.
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Statistics.
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The dreaded statistics.
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Community health.
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I know, epidemiology, leadership, management, ethics depends on who you ask, what your core values and beliefs are, who's running the ethics committee, and technology.
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Sometimes those were some of the subjects that I touched on in nursing school.
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Those were just the two years, the two-year clinical program that I did to get my Bachelor's of Science of Nursing.
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It took me three years to do my prerequisites to apply to my nursing program.
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With my nursing program, we had to write a paper.
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They asked us a question, and we had to write our answer.
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We had to write a paper about whatever the question was.
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And I answered the question.
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I wrote my paper the first time, and I was denied.
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I wasn't waitlisted.
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I got the denial paper.
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I was on spring break in Mexico with my now husband and his, well, my my in-laws.
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We went to Mexico for spring break, and I knew that those letters were going out.
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And I had peers that were applying at this to be in the same cohort.
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And one of my best friends, my oh, my AP partner, my AP lab partner, nothing, in my opinion, bonds you than the smell of formaldehyde and maybe a fetal pig.
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So me and me and her are still very, very, very best friends to this day.
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And she got in the first time that she applied.
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I didn't.
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And she had a better story.
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She wrote a better paper than I did at the time with the question that they asked, because at my nursing school, they changed the question every semester.
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So during that semester that I didn't get in, that's that broke me.
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That must have been my god.
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Yeah.
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And I'm trying like yes, that rejection letter coming home from my vacation and seeing a small envelope.
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Oh, versus the big packet that you get when you're accepted into a program with all the information that you need to succeed to start your first day.
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I know I can't even imagine.
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And that's okay because I met with my nursing school counselor because I was confused and frustrated and a little angry.
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And like the pity patty in me is just like, why not me?
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You know, I'm not sure.
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Like, I want to learn and I want to help.
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I want to be there for somebody on their worst day.
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If they if they need something from me, I want to be able to have something, a tool to help you succeed on and off the floor, you know, because we're all in this together.
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I say that all the time.
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The high school musical, we're coming there once we know that we are we're all stars, and we see that I watched Disney Channel and they taught us that dance.
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So I'm never dance, I know.
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And this world is not built for company like me sometimes.
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So, Mel, how the heck did you like overcome that?
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Because I think soapbox, period.
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What's your next question?
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How did you overcome that?
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Did you apply again the next semester and you're like, I'm doing it again.
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I'm I'm seeing this through.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Why are your counselor helpful?
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Were they like, try again, Mel?
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Or were they just like it is what it is?
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Listen.
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How do I want to say this?
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Hmm.
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I'm here to save myself.
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There's nobody here to save me.
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Nobody caught me when I fell.
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I broke my back doing a patient transfer on a total care kiddo at 3 a.m.
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Oh my gosh.
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And my peers didn't believe me.
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And I have institutional betrayal because of that experience.
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But during the time that I didn't get into the program that I worked so hard leading up to that moment to try, yeah, learn, it was devastating and frustrating and all the things.
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And my nursing school counselor was a gem of a human being.
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A beautiful black woman.
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Love her.
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Can't remember her name at the top of my head at this moment in time, but she was helpful because she understood that, and she gave me the insight that I did appreciate it and that helped me heal and move forward.
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Yeah.
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I don't like to move on, I like to move forward, right?
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Okay.
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I think there's a difference.
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Yeah, there is.
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And in that time, she had explained to me that there was an oversaturation of applicants for that semester because they have more applicants in the fall semester than the spring semester because of graduation dates and when they started and when you're supposed to finish your BSN.
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So she told me that it was oversaturated market, basically.
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And my story, my paper, didn't do well enough.
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It was close, it parred conversation amongst the committee, but it wasn't a good enough story.
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And that's okay.
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Because what do you do when you fail?
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I get up.
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I well, first I cry about it for a minute because tears are healing, okay?
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There's science behind it.
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And cried about it for a minute.
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Yeah.
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A little longer than that.
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Like probably a solid two months.
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Um, because during that time I had to evaluate do I need to take full-time credits?
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Do I need to because leading up like pre-nursing school?
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Yeah.
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I was working like 60 hours a week working.
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My goodness.
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To pay my rent.
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Okay.
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Honestly, like and Mel's student debt, Mel's medical debt, Mel's business debt, uh, my mortgage debt now.
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Add it on.
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I know.
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It's a part of the process, apparently.
00:21:04.200 --> 00:21:05.160
Somebody somebody said it.
00:21:05.319 --> 00:21:10.200
So we're we're doing it and we're doing it as well as we can with the tools and the resources that we have available.
00:21:10.440 --> 00:21:13.000
But sometimes there's not enough resources, right?
00:21:14.200 --> 00:21:14.680
It's true.
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That's something I've learned.
00:21:16.279 --> 00:21:23.640
So during that semester that I didn't get into nursing school, I looked at my transcript.
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I noticed where I could do some improvement.
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Okay.
00:21:28.600 --> 00:21:30.039
In different subjects.
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One of them was microbiology.
00:21:32.360 --> 00:21:37.960
Honestly, I I failed my first microbiology class.
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And like not just failed, but like I flunked, I had to drop out of the class before a certain date because it was going to ruin my transplant.
00:21:47.400 --> 00:21:53.480
And it wasn't because I like didn't work hard enough or study
hard enough.
00:21:53.720 --> 00:21:55.240
I had a bad teacher.
00:21:55.640 --> 00:22:00.759
He was not a good teacher for he was very knowledgeable in microbiology.
00:22:01.000 --> 00:22:04.759
Um definitely was a language barrier, a cultural barrier.
00:22:04.920 --> 00:22:09.880
He was from overseas, helping our university and school out with his knowledge of information on microbiology.
00:22:10.039 --> 00:22:11.640
Yay! I'm sure he was a tenure.
00:22:11.880 --> 00:22:12.440
I don't know.
00:22:12.680 --> 00:22:13.000
Right.
00:22:13.160 --> 00:22:19.720
But he did not help me learn to understand the microbiology as an overarching.
00:22:20.440 --> 00:22:23.079
Like I flunked my first test.
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And I studied, I like snail mail studied nursing school.
00:22:27.000 --> 00:22:29.640
I did I wrote everything down on flashcards.
00:22:30.039 --> 00:22:30.600
Yep.
00:22:30.759 --> 00:22:41.799
Not just like Quizlet, like yes, Quizlet, but like pen to paper, note cards, stacks, like cases for the note cards with the subject titles on each one.
00:22:41.880 --> 00:22:44.680
They're all different colors because that's how my brain works.
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Categories, organization.
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Thank you.
00:22:47.000 --> 00:22:47.720
Which you said.
00:22:47.799 --> 00:22:47.960
Yeah.
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That was a compliment.
00:22:50.440 --> 00:22:51.400
No, I get that.
00:22:51.480 --> 00:22:52.200
I think so.
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Yes, I retook microbiology, but I took it at a different school.
00:22:56.360 --> 00:22:59.799
Oh well, you knew that that teacher wasn't going to be helpful for you.
00:23:00.120 --> 00:23:01.480
You and him didn't click clearly.
00:23:01.720 --> 00:23:04.360
I didn't have the finances to kind of fuck around or find out, you know.
00:23:04.600 --> 00:23:25.480
So I needed to get this done as quickly as possible so I can try to keep going with this life and try to better myself and better my future and and give myself the things that Little Mel couldn't get or have access to or whatever, you know, like there's so I we all have I did that.
00:23:25.640 --> 00:23:30.120
You got a better grade, kind of helped your transcript look a little bit better.
00:23:30.360 --> 00:23:34.920
Yes, you waited for the time to reapply uh to write a new story.
00:23:35.079 --> 00:23:37.880
There's a new question, new question, Lord.
00:23:38.200 --> 00:23:42.440
That must have been a really hard application to fill out because you're like, here we go again.
00:23:43.559 --> 00:23:45.319
Here we go again.
00:23:45.880 --> 00:23:47.960
Oh yeah, yeah.
00:23:48.200 --> 00:23:50.759
And you're rejection's so hard.
00:23:50.840 --> 00:23:54.279
And when you think like when you know, I know I'm supposed to be a nurse.
00:23:54.360 --> 00:23:59.000
I know this is like I this is all I wanted to be, or this was my plan, my grand plan.
00:23:59.400 --> 00:24:01.960
And everyone alongside you seems to be moving forward.
00:24:02.120 --> 00:24:03.640
It's I'm like shaking right now.
00:24:05.160 --> 00:24:06.039
What are plans?
00:24:06.200 --> 00:24:07.240
Who's planning what?
00:24:07.400 --> 00:24:08.680
Like what plan?
00:24:09.559 --> 00:24:10.200
I know.
00:24:10.840 --> 00:24:13.000
Oh no, can I give you a virtual hug?
00:24:13.160 --> 00:24:15.240
I wouldn't hug you right now, but yeah.
00:24:17.960 --> 00:24:19.960
Oh I just feel for you because you know what?
00:24:20.039 --> 00:24:20.840
I hang on.
00:24:20.920 --> 00:24:21.640
Hang on, hang on.
00:24:21.799 --> 00:24:22.840
Oh yes, yes.
00:24:23.000 --> 00:24:24.519
We need to normalize something.
00:24:24.840 --> 00:24:26.600
Oh, what are we normalizing?
00:24:26.840 --> 00:24:35.720
We are normalizing the need that sometimes influencers need plushies for comfort when they are emotionally dysregulated.
00:24:36.840 --> 00:24:38.120
You have a dog too, right?
00:24:38.200 --> 00:24:38.600
I swear to you.
00:24:39.480 --> 00:24:40.680
He's napping on the couch.
00:24:41.079 --> 00:24:42.039
We don't want to disturb him.
00:24:42.279 --> 00:24:45.559
He's on his own journey, and no, I don't want to disturb his peace.
00:24:45.640 --> 00:24:52.840
He's precious and doesn't deserve my thought intrusiveness or whatever it is that we're talking about.
00:24:53.240 --> 00:24:54.440
Okay, so let's see.
00:24:54.600 --> 00:24:55.319
You get in.
00:24:55.559 --> 00:24:56.200
I get it.
00:24:56.440 --> 00:24:58.039
Spoiler alert, because you are a nurse.
00:24:58.120 --> 00:24:59.799
We know you get in at some point, right?
00:25:00.120 --> 00:25:00.759
I say it.
00:25:00.920 --> 00:25:02.759
I see you, I hear you, I understand you.
00:25:02.840 --> 00:25:08.840
And sometimes people laugh at that and think, what is why is she so happy?
00:25:08.920 --> 00:25:09.880
What does she have?
00:25:10.039 --> 00:25:17.559
What one of my peers on my first nursing job that I was so excited and worked so hard for.
00:25:17.720 --> 00:25:17.880
Yeah.
00:25:18.840 --> 00:25:23.240
I worked my whole life to get to that floor, that bedside.
00:25:23.799 --> 00:25:24.279
Yep.
00:25:26.120 --> 00:25:39.640
And I walked in with optimism and a smile and excitement and exuberant every day, every shift, every time I walked in those doors, you know, because you have especially in pediatrics, oh my god, you have to put on a bright face.
00:25:40.120 --> 00:25:41.559
Oh my gosh, yeah.
00:25:43.559 --> 00:25:44.840
It's really exhausting.
00:25:45.400 --> 00:25:45.720
Yeah.
00:25:47.880 --> 00:25:51.400
So okay, I know you did PEDs, and actually that does feel like it fits you.
00:25:51.880 --> 00:25:56.360
I understand child psychology more than well, I don't know.
00:25:56.519 --> 00:25:58.279
It depends who's sitting next to me.
00:25:58.680 --> 00:25:59.720
Yeah, I don't care.
00:25:59.960 --> 00:26:01.480
You know what happens when you assume?
00:26:02.279 --> 00:26:02.680
True.
00:26:02.920 --> 00:26:08.840
And I want to assume you get started in pediatrics.
00:26:09.000 --> 00:26:09.480
Yes.
00:26:10.039 --> 00:26:17.319
And obviously, you have previously shared that you broke your back at three in the morning while transferring a patient.
00:26:17.880 --> 00:26:20.200
How long had you been a nurse before?
00:26:20.279 --> 00:26:24.519
Like how long I graduated nursing school in 2018, in December of 2018.
00:26:24.759 --> 00:26:26.759
I live in the frozen tundra.
00:26:27.160 --> 00:26:27.480
True.
00:26:27.559 --> 00:26:31.400
Um, so my grad pictures were not cute and they were very cold, but that's okay.
00:26:31.640 --> 00:26:33.480
They were still I made them cute.
00:26:33.880 --> 00:26:35.160
Of course you did.
00:26:35.960 --> 00:26:38.440
But you broke your back how far after that?
00:26:38.600 --> 00:26:45.160
Like had you been a nurse for a full year yet, or was this really early on, or even earlier, I should say, because that's still early.
00:26:45.400 --> 00:26:47.160
You want to know, you want to know my truth?
00:26:47.400 --> 00:26:48.039
Yes.
00:26:48.759 --> 00:26:50.840
I had to get crafty.
00:26:51.400 --> 00:26:52.279
It's on brand.
00:26:52.759 --> 00:26:53.240
It is.
00:26:53.400 --> 00:27:10.519
I had to get crafty with my transfer, my admission for my total care chronic 23-year-old patient who could not move and was um like dyskinesic, so is yeah, fractured and had to do like he is he needed a lot of help.
00:27:11.000 --> 00:27:11.240
Yeah.
00:27:11.960 --> 00:27:23.400
And I was the nurse responsible for helping uh him and his mom admit to our system to help them get whatever he needed.
00:27:23.640 --> 00:27:27.480
I think it was like his G tube was uh malfunctioning or something.
00:27:27.799 --> 00:27:40.920
So they were in the ER for like all day already, and the empath in me just wants to keep going, keep growing, whatever, but the system's broken.
00:27:41.240 --> 00:27:42.920
And whatever's going with that.
00:27:43.480 --> 00:27:43.799
Sorry.
00:27:44.279 --> 00:27:45.079
No, it's okay.
00:27:45.240 --> 00:27:50.759
Just that you were you were obviously taking care of him, and you were getting crafty with your transfer.
00:27:51.079 --> 00:27:54.120
Yeah, and the doctors who were admit helping me admit him.
00:27:54.279 --> 00:27:54.600
Yeah.
00:27:54.840 --> 00:28:01.559
Because they come in and they ask their questions, and nursing has their own admission process, as we know.
00:28:02.920 --> 00:28:22.200
And yeah, I heard an audible pop when we transferred him using a fitted sheet because there was no turning system underneath him when he came up from the emergency room, and our tube system was not responding quickly enough to the nursing order that I put into Epic.
00:28:23.400 --> 00:28:23.720
Okay.
00:28:24.600 --> 00:28:34.440
And mom was looking at me like trying to answer my questions because I'm just trying to finish my nursing admissions at three o'clock in the morning, like I said.
00:28:35.319 --> 00:28:36.279
I have 4 a.m.
00:28:36.440 --> 00:28:46.840
vinyls, I have four o'clock checks that I need to get done for all my other patients, finish the charts, do my case management, study like all the things before I have to hand them off and however many hours.
00:28:47.000 --> 00:28:50.920
So I felt an audible pop doing that crafty transfer.
00:28:51.480 --> 00:28:59.160
And uh no, I did not have time to document or do an incident report on my audible pop that I heard.
00:28:59.799 --> 00:29:00.200
Yeah.
00:29:00.440 --> 00:29:03.319
I was like, ooh, that felt weird, you know.
00:29:03.400 --> 00:29:04.600
And I have scoliosis.
00:29:04.680 --> 00:29:10.279
I've been going to see a chiropractor since I was, I don't know, whenever they do that test on you as a youth.
00:29:10.600 --> 00:29:13.880
And two weeks later, I was sore, I was stretching.
00:29:13.960 --> 00:29:16.120
I'm like, I really I hurt my back.
00:29:16.279 --> 00:29:17.880
Kind of tweaked, I kinda tweaked it.
00:29:18.039 --> 00:29:18.200
Yeah.
00:29:19.079 --> 00:29:20.360
It was two weeks like that, right?
00:29:20.600 --> 00:29:25.559
And then a Friday night, home alone with Cody, we were about to watch a movie.
00:29:25.640 --> 00:29:26.759
It was January.
00:29:26.840 --> 00:29:28.120
It was right after New Year.
00:29:28.360 --> 00:29:33.640
And it was a Friday night, and we were excited to have our little cuddle night on the couch with a good movie.
00:29:33.799 --> 00:29:37.160
I bought Blaze Pizza, I picked it up, I brought it home.
00:29:37.319 --> 00:29:38.200
It got cold.
00:29:38.279 --> 00:29:43.000
I wanted to enjoy it, so I tried popping it in the oven for a few minutes.
00:29:43.720 --> 00:29:50.440
And as I popped it in the oven, I herniated L4 to L5 and L5 to S1.
00:29:51.400 --> 00:29:53.079
Oh my gosh.
00:29:55.480 --> 00:30:04.840
And oh, that must have been that is where my heat, my um, that is where my healing journey started.
00:30:06.759 --> 00:30:20.120
And where a lot of my humbling experiences and a lot of my empathy comes from was from my own personal experience of being a patient in the in a broken system.
00:30:21.000 --> 00:30:22.920
Oh Mel, I'm so sorry.
00:30:23.240 --> 00:30:36.200
And I was I was PRN at the time, so I didn't have any benefits coming from my employer because thankfully my husband had better benefits than what that institution was offering me.
00:30:36.279 --> 00:30:40.600
So I was like, yeah, I'll get paid the extra ten dollars an hour because I don't need the benefits.
00:30:41.160 --> 00:30:43.079
Oh my gosh, Mel, I'm so sorry.
00:30:43.559 --> 00:31:05.720
There was so much judgment and not enough curiosity or support, or nobody believed me, and they all thought that I was just at home making t-shirts because I didn't want to come into work because I had already started Mel's crafty corner before I got injured.
00:31:05.960 --> 00:31:11.000
I started my yes, I started they made their own
storyline for you.
00:31:11.079 --> 00:31:25.640
They said Mel would rather be home doing crafts, they made their own assumptions about me and my situation and my past and my experience, and spread vicious, cruel lies around the hospital.
00:31:25.960 --> 00:31:27.640
And this is your coworkers.
00:31:29.079 --> 00:31:31.240
Oh my gosh, Mel, I'm so sorry.
00:31:31.400 --> 00:31:39.319
I have one ex-coworker in particular that I think deserves karma.
00:31:39.480 --> 00:31:41.640
Yes, we'll go with karma.
00:31:42.600 --> 00:31:43.160
Yes.
00:31:43.400 --> 00:31:44.039
You know what?
00:31:44.120 --> 00:31:45.400
I do believe in karma.
00:31:45.559 --> 00:31:48.759
So, Mel, whether he or she has been served their karma already or not.
00:31:49.000 --> 00:31:49.319
I don't know.
00:31:49.559 --> 00:31:51.880
I don't have a lawyer in my back pocket, so I don't, I don't know.
00:31:52.039 --> 00:31:53.480
I haven't been to court.
00:31:53.880 --> 00:31:56.519
Oh my gosh, Mel, I'm so so sorry.
00:31:56.680 --> 00:32:12.519
I think I can understand that because I know thinking back in my nursing career, when someone would call out of work, people would be like, Well, it didn't she mention she was gonna be going to, you know, it's like people can't just accept, I don't know what you know, what's actually going on.
00:32:12.600 --> 00:32:14.920
And they have to come up with I don't know how they were raised.
00:32:15.000 --> 00:32:19.000
I don't know what trauma they've endured, capital or lowercase trauma.
00:32:19.480 --> 00:32:23.720
You know, I I don't know because nobody knows unless you ask.
00:32:24.039 --> 00:32:24.680
I know.
00:32:25.079 --> 00:32:27.559
Or, you know, be curious and not judgmental.
00:32:27.640 --> 00:32:29.880
That's something I've learned a lot in therapy and from Ted Lasso.
00:32:30.039 --> 00:32:31.000
Thank you, Ted.
00:32:32.519 --> 00:32:34.759
Oh, I'm so sorry that you went through that.
00:32:34.840 --> 00:32:37.880
And I can't even imagine and it's I'm still going through it.
00:32:37.960 --> 00:32:40.519
Yeah, the queen, I'll call her queen.
00:32:40.759 --> 00:32:50.840
She's still trying to make my life a living hell, and it already feels like yeah, like even on like nurse.org when I'm trying to talk about Lindsay Clancy.
00:32:52.279 --> 00:32:57.400
No, and then and I have certain I'm under contract, right?
00:32:57.640 --> 00:33:01.559
So I uh and I can only say certain things.
00:33:01.799 --> 00:33:02.920
You can only say certain things.
00:33:03.319 --> 00:33:07.960
She commented on the nurse.org and said, ew, Mel.
00:33:10.039 --> 00:33:18.840
Because I've I've had to block her because of all the evil, evil things that she is and like I love chance, he saved my life more ways than one.
00:33:19.079 --> 00:33:30.279
And there was a picture that I posted on my Instagram stories one day during my recovery, because they also had a lot of assumptions on me getting a dog during my time at home.
00:33:30.600 --> 00:33:35.079
And you don't know unless you ask.
00:33:35.240 --> 00:33:45.079
And as women, yeah, I think that, and I don't know about you, but I was taught to sit still and look pretty and in my Catholic school uniform.
00:33:46.120 --> 00:33:57.559
And I've learned just like two weeks ago that I have choice in my autonomy, or there is choice in autonomy.
00:33:57.720 --> 00:33:59.000
That's the way I want to phrase it.
00:33:59.160 --> 00:34:01.559
There is choice in autonomy.
00:34:02.120 --> 00:34:12.360
I have the choice and the decision to say yes or no to opportunity, to questions, to uh information, right?
00:34:13.559 --> 00:34:36.920
And it's up to us in our brains and our bodies and our experiences to absorb that information as it comes with our Rolodex that's in our brain, and try to do better with the future, without and I'm I'm trying to live this life without like as much synthetic help.
00:34:37.880 --> 00:34:39.639
I'll say that synthetic help.
00:34:39.960 --> 00:34:40.599
Yeah.
00:34:41.880 --> 00:34:42.599
It's hard.
00:34:43.000 --> 00:34:43.480
Really hard.
00:34:43.960 --> 00:34:45.239
When did you hurt your back?
00:34:45.400 --> 00:34:46.440
Like how long ago is that?
00:34:46.920 --> 00:34:48.519
January 2021.
00:34:49.079 --> 00:34:52.360
And I think the person is still after you.
00:34:52.759 --> 00:34:54.840
Yes, and she still works at that facility.
00:34:55.239 --> 00:35:00.599
I have half a mind to email the well, the president and CEO was a woman.
00:35:01.480 --> 00:35:02.759
Not anymore.
00:35:03.799 --> 00:35:05.239
Well, it's it's just crazy to me.
00:35:05.319 --> 00:35:07.639
It's like, move on to this other person, not you.
00:35:07.960 --> 00:35:09.720
It's not moving on, it's moving forward.
00:35:09.880 --> 00:35:15.639
And I know that she went through her own traumas and tribulations during my time on the floor with her.
00:35:16.199 --> 00:35:23.079
And I can't, I well, actually, I have experience with what she went through.
00:35:23.320 --> 00:35:23.639
Okay.
00:35:24.440 --> 00:35:25.800
Not to a T.
00:35:26.519 --> 00:35:27.159
Yeah.
00:35:27.800 --> 00:35:29.720
But I understand.
00:35:32.119 --> 00:36:04.519
So um, God forbid I try to share some joy on the internet of my cute puppy that I just got, and the rainbow's basking on him because I have rainbow catchers in my windows to and I'm just trying to share joy, and then she's telling me that I'm an insensitive, horrible human being because of the term rainbow baby, and I called him a rainbow baby because he was basking on rainbows in rainbows, like that, like why God, like you can't.
00:36:04.840 --> 00:36:11.559
She's taking it out of context, yes, and she doesn't know what she doesn't know about me, she doesn't know what you're going through.
00:36:11.720 --> 00:36:14.519
No, and you're personally or what I've been through.
00:36:14.760 --> 00:36:15.559
What you've been through.
00:36:15.639 --> 00:36:16.360
She doesn't know.
00:36:16.679 -->
00:36:18.920
It's a good reminder that none of us really do know.
00:36:19.079 --> 00:36:37.240
But I think what I've learned in life is that there's always gonna be someone trying to dim your light, someone that is feeling pain and they're angry for whatever reason cannot stand when someone else is trying to spread joy, be happy, or inclusive, or optimistic.
00:36:37.480 --> 00:36:40.760
Yes, inclusivity, yes, trauma-informed care.
00:36:41.000 --> 00:36:42.679
Yes, yes, yes.
00:36:43.000 --> 00:36:47.480
I'm living my life that way because of reasons.
00:36:47.800 --> 00:36:57.559
Yeah, you've been through a lot, and no one should tell you that you haven't been through a lot, and no one should tell you, you know, to stop spreading joy or ooh, Mal.
00:36:58.039 --> 00:36:58.360
No.
00:36:58.760 --> 00:37:04.679
Well, my parents also have a lot of opinions about what I'm choosing to do with my time as well.
00:37:04.840 --> 00:37:07.639
So we're doing the best we can, and that's all we can do.
00:37:07.880 --> 00:37:12.679
You have to be true to yourself, you have to, you have to because otherwise lose yourself.
00:37:12.840 --> 00:37:17.800
You can't lose yourself, or you make everybody else happy, and then you're unhappy, and it's your life.
00:37:18.039 --> 00:37:19.800
Yes, yes, my life.
00:37:20.039 --> 00:37:37.559
And if your heart's racing and you're anxious, or there's a pit in your stomach, or you start to get emotionally dysregulated, or too much, or whatever verb you want to use, as long as you can sleep at night, and like how do you sleep?
00:37:37.800 --> 00:37:39.480
How did you sleep last night, Caroline?
00:37:39.559 --> 00:37:42.119
I'm genuinely I actually sleep great.
00:37:42.280 --> 00:37:43.639
Oh, I sleep great.
00:37:44.840 --> 00:37:48.760
Let me tell you I don't I haven't I haven't always slept good.
00:37:48.920 --> 00:37:49.240
Okay.
00:37:49.880 --> 00:37:54.599
I think I'm at a point in my life where I have done what is true to me.
00:37:55.000 --> 00:38:04.039
And I can res a lot of this resonates with me because you know, when I initially quit the job as a nurse manager, and that was what I got my master's for, and that's what I wanted.
00:38:04.280 --> 00:38:09.720
When I finally quit it, I had family that was like, well, wait, didn't isn't that what you wanted to be?
00:38:09.800 --> 00:38:11.000
And now what are you gonna do?
00:38:11.159 --> 00:38:15.720
And you know, and I had to kind of convince my husband, like, look, that job was not right for me.
00:38:15.880 --> 00:38:18.599
And it was so hard to go to the grain.
00:38:18.760 --> 00:38:19.480
It was so hard.
00:38:19.639 --> 00:38:22.440
And I would have sleepless nights and I'd be anxious over it and this and that.
00:38:22.599 --> 00:38:35.320
And finally, I've gotten to a point where I can say, not that I don't care what they think, because of course I love family, but like I really only care about what I feel like is truly aligned for me.
00:38:36.119 --> 00:38:38.199
That's the one I'm gonna be the best version of me.
00:38:38.360 --> 00:38:45.720
I'll be able to show up the best as a mom, the best as a nurse, the best as a wife, because I'm being honest and true to my core values.
00:38:45.880 --> 00:38:47.480
Yes, like, right?
00:38:47.559 --> 00:38:48.840
It's not life's not all about money.
00:38:49.000 --> 00:38:50.519
Life's not all about it's not rocket science.
00:38:50.599 --> 00:38:51.559
And no, it's not.
00:38:51.720 --> 00:38:53.159
No, oh my God.
00:38:53.960 --> 00:38:57.079
In influencer culture, I want to like just another share it out loud.
00:38:57.159 --> 00:38:59.240
I don't know where they're getting their bag.
00:39:00.039 --> 00:39:05.400
But like up here in Wisconsin, it's it's a different, weirder market ball game.
00:39:05.480 --> 00:39:09.079
And like there's there's room for everyone at the table, right?
00:39:09.159 --> 00:39:16.039
Like there's room for everyone at the table, and like there's so much resources being thrown away.
00:39:16.360 --> 00:39:17.000
Food.
00:39:17.159 --> 00:39:22.360
Oh my god, food insecurity, house insecurity, um, gas prices these days.
00:39:22.519 --> 00:39:25.559
I've had so I've had friends that I like.
00:39:28.280 --> 00:39:32.440
I know there's a lot, there's a lot of external chaos too.
00:39:32.519 --> 00:39:34.599
And I think there's a lot of uncertainty in the argument.
00:39:34.920 --> 00:39:40.840
So much uncertainty, and so much that you don't know what to believe, and so much gaslighting.
00:39:41.000 --> 00:39:47.159
Um you have to literally decide what you're allowing your body to take in, right?
00:39:47.320 --> 00:39:49.960
Like I have had to limit myself, Mel, on social media.
00:39:50.199 --> 00:39:51.240
I don't watch the news.
00:39:51.400 --> 00:39:56.760
There's certain things that I know trigger me and make me make me spiral.
00:39:56.920 --> 00:39:57.240
Yes.
00:39:57.400 --> 00:40:02.199
And I know, I know this is a terrible saying, but I don't really feel like I can make a difference in it.
00:40:02.280 --> 00:40:05.559
Like I hate to say that, at least on a grand scheme of things.
00:40:05.639 --> 00:40:11.000
Like, I'm not gonna be a political person ever, like running for right.
00:40:11.320 --> 00:40:20.199
But I know I can be true to me, do good in the world day to day, and focus on those little interactions that I have, you know what I mean, at the granular level.
00:40:20.440 --> 00:40:23.079
Yes, yes, that's what I can do.
00:40:23.400 --> 00:40:25.000
Period, point blank.
00:40:25.240 --> 00:40:27.800
Do we need to turn the page and see what's next?
00:40:27.880 --> 00:40:29.480
Or like what's the next chapter about?
00:40:29.559 --> 00:40:33.559
I don't know because we're it's October 2nd, 2026.
00:40:35.480 --> 00:40:37.079
And there's a lot of uncertainty.
00:40:37.559 --> 00:40:38.599
A lot of uncertainty.
00:40:38.840 --> 00:40:45.079
Have you, especially in the nursing world
and me being affiliated very, very, very closely with nurse.org.
00:40:45.240 --> 00:40:45.639
Yep.
00:40:46.519 --> 00:41:03.079
I have to know what's happening so that I can best share information, valuable information that somebody might be able to utilize a resource from an article or a video or an experience or what have you.
00:41:03.400 --> 00:41:06.199
And it's just silly.
00:41:06.440 --> 00:41:08.440
Corporate America today.
00:41:09.159 --> 00:41:13.559
The the the white man, the Zuckerberg of it all.
00:41:13.800 --> 00:41:16.440
I remember before Twitter was even a thing.
00:41:16.760 --> 00:41:20.599
Yeah, I know, snail mail, I think babies.
00:41:21.079 --> 00:41:26.760
To me, it's like it's gotten to a point where healthcare is so business focused that we have just lost the plot.
00:41:27.000 --> 00:41:29.159
And it's so about the money and the numbers.
00:41:29.240 --> 00:41:32.760
It is all about money people, money, numbers, and productivity.
00:41:32.840 --> 00:41:36.440
It is not about the people providing care or the people getting care.
00:41:37.079 --> 00:41:37.800
Human beings.
00:41:37.960 --> 00:41:38.599
Oh my God.
00:41:38.840 --> 00:41:39.800
Human beings.
00:41:40.199 --> 00:41:41.320
Human beings.
00:41:41.720 --> 00:41:43.800
I know it's really new.
00:41:44.519 --> 00:41:49.159
It's really here's my opinion.
00:41:49.320 --> 00:41:53.240
Yeah, I think that our future can go one of two ways.
00:41:55.559 --> 00:42:07.720
Depending on who and what and where, and money backing and whose pocket is whatever, I don't know.
00:42:08.360 --> 00:42:14.119
It can go really bad, like permanent extinction bad.
00:42:14.440 --> 00:42:15.000
Yeah.
00:42:15.320 --> 00:42:19.960
Or it could go really cool, I think.
00:42:20.280 --> 00:42:27.079
Like it could be the Joneses, like Futurama or like that type of vibe.
00:42:27.240 --> 00:42:27.720
I don't know.
00:42:27.880 --> 00:42:33.240
Like the Simpsons predict the future.
00:42:33.320 --> 00:42:34.679
I don't know how how they get there.
00:42:35.320 --> 00:42:43.240
We saw like a reel on that, and I was like, oh my god, holy I don't know who the creator of the Simpsons is or where they get their information from or who's in their pocket.
00:42:43.320 --> 00:42:49.800
I but it's true of assumptions, but I don't want to say because you know what happens when you assume.
00:42:50.119 --> 00:42:52.840
Don't want to assume, that's for sure.
00:42:53.480 --> 00:42:54.679
Oh my goodness.
00:42:54.840 --> 00:43:00.679
Well, I Mel, I do feel like you are so real and authentically you and sharing when you're trying my best.
00:43:00.920 --> 00:43:06.199
You share a lot about mental health, and that's so important, especially in nursing, because it is so hard.
00:43:06.360 --> 00:43:46.039
And it's so funny that you bring up, I shouldn't say funny, that's not the right word, but it's so it's important, yes, that you bring up even bullying because I've had so many guests on my show, and
part of their journey is someone that bullied them, and it's really sad because it's usually another nurse, yeah, and someone that you know, in a lot of cases is a leader or a boss, or someone that's like supposed to be a friend, or a parent, or a guardian, or a guardian, you know, it's true, and it's clear that it has affected these people that I've had on my show to a core level, and it's not something they can just write off.
00:43:46.119 --> 00:43:51.880
It is something that has stuck with them, it changed the trajectory of their life, the direction of their life.
00:43:52.039 --> 00:44:02.599
Yeah, and it's just so upsetting to know that like that's out there, and especially in our profession and at the bedside when we're just trying to deliver care.
00:44:02.920 --> 00:44:03.320
Yes.
00:44:03.480 --> 00:44:05.159
Like I was born for the bedside.
00:44:05.320 --> 00:44:05.639
Yeah.
00:44:05.800 --> 00:44:06.440
Oh my god.
00:44:06.599 --> 00:44:09.720
I would have loved to retire as a pediatric bedside nurse.
00:44:10.119 --> 00:44:11.159
That would have been so cool.
00:44:11.320 --> 00:44:21.000
I had three Daisy nominations under my belt before I got injured, and I was off the floor for six months in recovery and PT, OT.
00:44:21.240 --> 00:44:23.800
My injury wasn't bad enough to need surgery.
00:44:23.960 --> 00:44:26.199
Okay, to need a spinal fusion.
00:44:27.320 --> 00:44:31.159
It was bad enough to need six months off the floor.
00:44:31.400 --> 00:44:35.720
PT, OT, to like even do my laundry occupational therapy.
00:44:35.880 --> 00:44:48.360
Like my husband had to help bathe me, shower me, pull my pants up after I peed because I lost bladder control because of where that injury is and the nerves and the electrons.
00:44:48.519 --> 00:44:50.119
Like, we know things.
00:44:50.360 --> 00:44:50.760
Right.
00:44:51.000 --> 00:44:52.760
You know, do you understand genealogy?
00:44:53.159 --> 00:44:54.440
And I'm just curious.
00:44:55.240 --> 00:44:59.720
I mean, is that just like, you know, hereditary, you know, things?
00:45:01.000 --> 00:45:13.559
What happened to me is because of what happened to mom, is because what happened to grandma is because what happened to grandma's grandma, and like grandma's grandma lived in whatever, maybe like the 1800s at that time.
00:45:13.800 --> 00:45:22.119
But look at them, you know, I'm Irish, so my ancestors had the potato famine, right?
00:45:22.280 --> 00:45:28.039
So I feel like there are things that like we are at risk for the plague, yes.
00:45:28.199 --> 00:45:31.960
I mean, so is that kind of what you mean with with like genealogy?
00:45:32.199 --> 00:45:42.039
Yes, yes, like my one of my trauma therapists, actually, one of my homework assignments was to try and make my own genealogy map.
00:45:42.440 --> 00:45:43.480
Oh, interesting.
00:45:43.720 --> 00:45:52.119
To try to understand the trauma aspect because somebody thought it was a good idea to diagnose me with CPTSD.
00:45:52.599 -->
00:45:56.679
Okay, complex post-traumatic stress disorder.
00:45:57.000 --> 00:46:00.360
It was just PTSD for a minute, but then they were like, you know what?
00:46:00.599 --> 00:46:02.920
We need to put a little C in front of that.
00:46:03.240 --> 00:46:06.199
Um, we need to add a little bit more sprinkle to that, to that.
00:46:06.519 --> 00:46:09.079
Yeah, a little bit more juz.
00:46:10.519 --> 00:46:11.639
That's a great word.
00:46:11.800 --> 00:46:22.360
And even like, yes, it's funny, like culture, and like I my dad did like the well, there's all the DNA now things, but like he did that family tree.
00:46:22.599 --> 00:46:27.480
I spit into a tube, and we all looked at our genetics.
00:46:27.639 --> 00:46:40.840
Like me and my brother, who are Irish twins, we are completely different in like he is mostly English.
00:46:41.079 --> 00:46:45.720
Like my maiden name is very English.
00:46:45.880 --> 00:46:49.400
Apparently, there's a castle with my maiden name on it.
00:46:49.639 --> 00:46:53.880
I don't know where any of that fortune or fame comes from.
00:46:54.280 --> 00:47:04.280
I don't know or see it, but um, it's it's there somewhere in England, and he has the majority of his makeup is English.
00:47:04.519 --> 00:47:06.280
Oh, that's so interesting.
00:47:06.599 --> 00:47:07.000
Uh-huh.
00:47:07.639 --> 00:47:16.599
And my younger sister, yeah, who's seven years younger than me, okay, is maj mostly German.
00:47:18.280 --> 00:47:18.920
What?
00:47:20.199 --> 00:47:21.240
Are you mostly Irish?
00:47:21.480 --> 00:47:23.159
Oh, I have a lot mixed and male.
00:47:23.240 --> 00:47:26.119
My mom has a touch of Scandinavian Jew in her.
00:47:26.360 --> 00:47:30.519
So yeah, like there's that is so interesting.
00:47:30.760 --> 00:47:31.480
Because I don't know.
00:47:31.559 --> 00:47:33.960
I guess I would have assumed you'd all be similar.
00:47:34.119 --> 00:47:37.400
You know, maybe not exactly the same, but to be okay, you're mature, you know.
00:47:37.720 --> 00:47:42.360
Well, and I was even talking to my husband about this last night, frustrated about the man.
00:47:42.760 --> 00:47:49.639
Generational wealth, oh um, if it's not done correctly with the pot the right positive influence, because that's something I've learned.
00:47:49.720 --> 00:47:56.519
One of my nursing coaches told me when I felt icky about somebody calling me an influencer.
00:47:57.639 --> 00:48:00.119
I was like, oh no, please, like, don't introduce me like that.
00:48:00.199 --> 00:48:01.159
She's like, Yeah, here's Mel.
00:48:01.240 --> 00:48:02.199
She's an influencer for this event.
00:48:02.280 --> 00:48:03.639
I'm like, uh no, I'm just Mel.
00:48:04.519 --> 00:48:04.760
Me?
00:48:05.240 --> 00:48:05.480
Me?
00:48:05.720 --> 00:48:06.599
I'm just Mel.
00:48:06.679 --> 00:48:08.920
I'm just I mean, I'm thank you for inviting me.
00:48:09.079 --> 00:48:09.400
Hi.
00:48:10.039 --> 00:48:14.280
Um, I think television wealth is a little tricky because it's so
tricky.
00:48:14.360 --> 00:48:17.800
Yeah, like daddy helping you out or saving you.
00:48:18.119 --> 00:48:20.039
That's oh my god.
00:48:20.119 --> 00:48:31.000
And like my dad would um walk the heavens and earth for me, but like doesn't have his checkbook out every time that I have a problem or I call him upset.
00:48:31.079 --> 00:48:38.440
And I've had to learn that because of my experience that I had to figure it out on my own.
00:48:38.679 --> 00:48:39.720
I had to figure it out too.
00:48:39.800 --> 00:48:45.159
I guess my parents dropped me off at school and then they moved 15 hours away from me.
00:48:45.400 --> 00:48:48.760
Yeah, they were like, bye, we'll see you at break.
00:48:49.079 --> 00:48:52.199
But not even because airline my like gas prices.
00:48:52.360 --> 00:49:09.800
My mother-in-law took me in in the summer and gave me a job and made me a little room in the basement with my own little bathroom in vanity, and I had my own space because Cody and I weren't married yet, so didn't want us sleeping in the same yeah, of course.
00:49:09.960 --> 00:49:11.800
I get that behind a closed door.
00:49:12.199 --> 00:49:15.000
I get that too, but I've been with that man since I was 13 years old.
00:49:15.159 --> 00:49:15.320
I know.
00:49:15.960 --> 00:49:19.240
You know, we've already, you know, things have already been shared and done.
00:49:19.320 --> 00:49:22.599
So curiosity has got the cat already.
00:49:22.760 --> 00:49:23.400
All right.
00:49:24.920 --> 00:49:25.400
I know.
00:49:25.559 --> 00:49:33.320
I do feel like, you know, thinking about how I want to raise my kids, I want my kids to understand what it's like to work hard for something.
00:49:33.480 --> 00:49:35.480
Yeah, this is the value of a dollar.
00:49:35.720 --> 00:49:37.000
Yeah, exactly.
00:49:37.159 --> 00:49:41.000
It is not just, oh, I'll just get a new one and mom will buy it for me.
00:49:41.240 --> 00:49:46.039
No, you had you had that or whatever it was, a toy, you lost it at the park, it's gone.
00:49:46.360 --> 00:49:47.960
Yes, yes, yes.
00:49:48.199 --> 00:49:48.840
Oh my god.
00:49:49.000 --> 00:49:54.199
I'm sitting with my iPhone 13 because I can't afford the newest iPhone.
00:49:54.280 --> 00:50:02.599
Well, I I can, I can, I can put it on my credit card, but I don't want to expose how bad some of my credit cards are.
00:50:02.920 --> 00:50:21.000
So no, like I said, like we we all do what we can, and I think like you said it best, at the end of the day, when you're trying to go to sleep and whatever work, whatever you gotta do to sleep well at night, you know, it's true, you have to protect your peace so much.
00:50:21.960 --> 00:50:24.599
Yes, yes, does not teach you that.
00:50:24.760 --> 00:50:27.559
No, my my therapist had to teach me that.
00:50:27.800 --> 00:50:31.159
I know, and nursing school didn't teach you how to delegate tasks.
00:50:31.320 --> 00:50:36.440
No, they told you um whose responsibility it was supposed to be to white.
00:50:37.639 --> 00:50:42.760
To delegate, yeah, and how when my when my coworker is rolling their eyes at me, how do I delegate?
00:50:43.000 --> 00:50:50.760
And I worked in pediatrics, so imagine that carelessness when there's an innocent child, right?
00:50:51.159 --> 00:50:52.039
Helpless.
00:50:52.360 --> 00:51:11.159
Oh my god, I no, I can't even if we want if we want to know more about Mel, we can have a different conversation about what I did in nursing school to prepare me for my first day on the floor as a bedside pediatric nurse in acute care, specializing in GIGU, endocrinology, pulmonology, like all the things.
00:51:11.320 --> 00:51:12.760
Yeah, a different conversation.
00:51:13.079 --> 00:51:16.119
I just want to know before we jump off, like two things.
00:51:16.280 --> 00:51:16.599
Yeah.
00:51:16.920 --> 00:51:18.760
How did you get into Mel's Crafty Corner?
00:51:19.000 --> 00:51:25.639
Have you always loved crafts and you just kind of like were like, let me like lean into nursing and crafting at the same time and see where it goes?
00:51:25.880 --> 00:51:31.240
Uh no, it was a creative outlet that it was a hobby turned into a happy accident.
00:51:31.800 --> 00:51:33.000
What was like the initial hobby?
00:51:33.079 --> 00:51:35.079
Like, where were you like known for your crocheting?
00:51:35.159 --> 00:51:35.639
Like, you know what I mean?
00:51:35.720 --> 00:51:57.960
Like no, because I was PRN and I work nights, not I in the COVID world in the pediatric world, in my experience, was weird and different than the my peers next door that were in the adult ICUs, or in the adult world, or in the geriatric world, or I had a different experience.
00:51:58.039 --> 00:52:06.119
I had a weird, different experience, and I got canceled for shifts for 18 weeks.
00:52:06.440 --> 00:52:07.240
Crazy.
00:52:07.559 --> 00:52:15.400
18 weeks where you go without pay because you probably use all of what's in your bank if you had any, but you were PRN, and I did it.
00:52:15.800 --> 00:52:27.320
They had COVID pay for like six months before I don't know where the funding went or where it went to, but it stopped going to the essential worker clocking in.
00:52:27.480 --> 00:52:37.400
Like there was times like I was so strappy for hours that I would volunteer as tribute to screen employees before coming into the building for COVID.
00:52:37.639 --> 00:52:42.920
Yeah, I would take their temperature and like in call centers, like I was there too.
00:52:43.079 --> 00:52:49.880
And especially for the families that because like on my unit, we dealt with a lot of chronic kiddos.
00:52:50.119 --> 00:52:50.280
Yeah.
00:52:50.760 --> 00:52:53.400
Frequent flyers, however you want to call it.
00:52:54.039 --> 00:53:11.960
And because schools were canceled, and a lot of our chronic kids were like going to specialty facilities during the day, care at home, because they're complex kids, they have a lot of tubes, you know, a lot of lines, and um sometimes
limited access to certain things.
00:53:12.280 --> 00:53:23.880
So it's just really important, I think, to be kind to everyone, be kind to self.
00:53:24.360 --> 00:53:31.960
That's where a big well, I'm not wearing it today, but my be kind to your mind design is where I drew on my iPad.
00:53:32.440 --> 00:53:49.960
So yeah, were you just like doodling like during this COVID time where you're being called off left and right, and you're like, Yeah, and like coloring books and like DIY projects that I saved on Pinterest, that I wanted to make this cute sign for my apartment that said home on it, whatever.
00:53:50.199 --> 00:53:52.440
It was it was 2019, you know.
00:53:52.760 --> 00:53:54.440
When did it become a business?
00:53:54.760 --> 00:53:56.519
Were people like, I want to buy that from you?
00:53:56.840 --> 00:54:00.679
Yeah, like it honestly started with me needing a creative outlet, yeah.
00:54:00.840 --> 00:54:05.240
Um, being bored at home, yeah, because work didn't need me.
00:54:05.880 --> 00:54:13.240
I slept all day, I slept all day getting ready to walk in for 12 hours overnight.
00:54:13.480 --> 00:54:14.039
Oh my god.
00:54:14.519 --> 00:54:19.800
So I had a lot of time on my hands, and uh Animal Crossing was crossed.
00:54:20.039 --> 00:54:24.039
Um, you know, I I did I did what I needed to do.
00:54:24.280 --> 00:54:28.679
I just got well, actually, I was planning a wedding.
00:54:28.920 --> 00:54:33.720
So my gosh, you had a lot going on, but not a lot at the same time because you were getting the answer.
00:54:34.599 --> 00:54:45.159
So I had I had a cricket that I bought for myself for my wedding, so that I could DIY my wedding signs because Etsy was expensive.
00:54:46.199 --> 00:54:46.679
Mm-hmm.
00:54:47.079 --> 00:54:50.119
And you're clearly crafty and creative, and I'm crafty, yes.
00:54:50.599 --> 00:54:53.880
So, like my grandmother is an artist, my dad is an artist.
00:54:54.119 --> 00:54:55.880
Oh, also colorblind.
00:54:56.039 --> 00:54:56.519
Fun fact.
00:54:56.760 --> 00:54:58.039
Oh, that's so interesting.
00:54:58.280 --> 00:55:00.280
Um, yeah, I have to help him see colors.
00:55:00.360 --> 00:55:01.079
It's really funny.
00:55:01.240 --> 00:55:03.559
But I have kind of where that genealogy, I think.
00:55:03.639 --> 00:55:07.320
Like it's interesting how you can have those artists in your like bloodline.
00:55:07.559 --> 00:55:08.760
Like artists.
00:55:09.079 --> 00:55:15.320
I bought him those like color, like they they make special glasses now for people who are colorblind.
00:55:15.559 --> 00:55:17.720
Oh, that's so awesome! I didn't know that.
00:55:17.960 --> 00:55:19.880
So my dad has like the red, green.
00:55:19.960 --> 00:55:23.720
I forget the term of what, but he that's his colorblindness.
00:55:23.960 --> 00:55:26.679
So he's doing a painting for me right now.
00:55:26.920 --> 00:55:29.400
Bless his heart of our first home.
00:55:29.559 --> 00:55:30.760
Love that for us.
00:55:30.920 --> 00:55:33.320
That's our Christmas present from my father.
00:55:33.559 --> 00:55:34.519
I love that.
00:55:34.760 --> 00:55:45.480
And my mom is helping him with the colors of my house, and he's picking up the color of what cerulean blue is supposed to look like, and how long that tube has been sitting there and how much it oxidized.
00:55:45.559 --> 00:55:50.199
And my mom said, Hun, why are you putting lime green on Mel's house?
00:55:50.440 --> 00:55:54.360
No, exactly, yeah, yeah, right?
00:55:54.840 --> 00:55:56.440
Kind of crazy, kind of funny.
00:55:56.760 --> 00:56:05.400
But if somebody just handed you a lime green painting of your home, you'd be like, Yinks, I can't wait to hang it up.
00:56:05.559 --> 00:56:07.320
Oh my god, it's so pretty.
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Yeah, that is kind of funny.
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Yeah, so like I I have my iPad, this is my procreate on my app, and I I doodle and like I do different designs.
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Like I did a bachelorette party for a girl that used to watch chants for me while I was working, and it's groomed.
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Oh my gosh, I love that.
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Oh, that's so cute.
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Oh my gosh, you are definitely very creative.
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It's cute, see, and it's all like Milwaukee stuff, but I wanted to show you specifically this is a good one because I love anatomy, and I love flowers.
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Oh love.
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Who doesn't?
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So here's a great example of what oh low bag five percent.
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Jesus aren't we all at five percent?
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Oh my gosh, I love that.
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Thank you.
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So I I feel like neurology nurses would love that too.
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I know these things during my injury.
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I don't know what the date is on this exact one.
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Oh but I yeah, and I have heart like lungs and inhale, exhale.
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Like I work with a lot of nonprofit organizations that are beautiful and run by nurses and like doing collaborations with them.
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Um, so like there's one that we did where it was like box breathing.
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Oh, cute was on your shirt.
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So if you ever felt anxious, you could just oh, I like that.
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What a good idea!
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Yeah, thank you.
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Brilliant.
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Thank you.
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I think there's a lot of ideas and that always that I just need the right investment.
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I know, Mel, I'm so grateful that you took the time to be on the show.
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I really anytime, Caroline.
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--> 00:57:51.159
Seriously.
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And I gave you my phone number.
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So you I know you did.
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I'll text you now.
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And you call me Mel.
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Yeah, good.
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Wait, tell everyone where they can find you if they don't know where you are.
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Uh all right.
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Are you on are you only on Instagram?
00:58:06.920 --> 00:58:07.559
No, no.
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Hi, my name is Mel.
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I live in Wisconsin.
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Go pack up.
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And you can find me on Instagram, TikTok, Facebook at Mel.crafty.corner.
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You can shop Mel'Crafty Corner.com or Mel's Crafty Corner.com.
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Or you can Google me, Mel's Crafty Corner, or Mel Van Sistine.
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And she has so much good stuff.
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Information will come up and resources will hopefully be able to get to you.
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And my biggest goal with my platform to put a bow in it in a sentence is to help you look and feel your best on and off the floor.
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However, that looks like for you, amazing.
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I'm gonna ask you a big question.
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I'm gonna give you an answer.
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Love it.
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If you could go back to new grad nurse Mel, what would you tell her?
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I know it's kind of a loaded question.
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We cover all no, it's a beautiful question.
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I'm just thinking.
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What I would tell new grad nurse Mel.
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It's all gonna be okay, babe.
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Right?
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And you have all the tools that you need to succeed.
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And sometimes in life, your tool belt might come a little loose, or your hammer might fall out, or your screwdriver gets broken, and you might have to do a little bit of you might have to do more repair.
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And that's okay.
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It's a beautiful thing, and you're going to want to get the help that you deserve.
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Period.
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I love that.
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Mal, thank you so much for today.
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Your resilience, your positivity, your willingness to keep moving forward is so inspiring.
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And truthfully, I think we need more voices and stories like this to be shared in the nursing space.
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So thank you for being here today.
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I am anytime you want me back, I'll look on.
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Yay, I love that.
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Thank you, Mal.
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I'm in your corner.
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Always and forever.
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Well, that's it for today's episode of Life After Nursing School.
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