Full Transcript for Bonus Barrel: Midterm Abortion (w Adrienne Schoen)

we've come so far, we can sit back and enjoy it. And that was not true. Yeah. 00:06:32 Speaker 3: And maybe that's the awesome lesson that we can learn now. 00:06:35 Speaker 4: I think people are coming back battle worn. Like they're coming back going like, Oh no, you're not just going back to Chuck Schumer. You're not, we're not doing this again. This is not what the mandate was. 00:06:45 Speaker 3: Yeah. But also the problem wasn't the celebrating in the streets. The problem was the complacency and, and the kind of like, well, we did it. That came along with it. If we can marry the celebrating of the streets, that's a little bit dorky and embarrassing with like, all right, let's not get complacent. I think we have a winning combo there. 00:07:05 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:07:06 Speaker 4: And I, I don't know, like I buck up against anything. That's like, feel bad about your joy, you know. 00:07:13 Speaker 3: Like qualify your happiness. 00:07:16 Speaker 5: Yeah. 00:07:16 Speaker 4: Like temper this for me, like make sure that I understand that you're having like a Protestant, like, a good measured amount of time, you know, like it's, I want it to be a little bit more from that celebration, from that hope, doing something production with, productive with what you have. I think Mamdani has done a really good job of, you know, showing people the joy of like the possibility of like achieving stuff. 00:07:45 Speaker 3: Yeah. And the power that that has in terms of public opinion and like, ease yeah you know like i think everybody just kind of feels better and chiller yeah when people are achieving something as opposed to like bickering and fighting. 00:08:03 Speaker 4: And yeah it feels more you know impossible to to move things forward and see your visions come come to life um which i think we haven't seen in a long time so and i think that that um you know, change and forward momentum and action that has been missing from the Democratic Party. Like that's what got voted for. It was the energy of the DSA. It was the energy of, you know, these candidates that are untethered from, you know, PACs and not entirely, but, you know, like people who are working towards getting the money out of politics. And I think that's it. And when the Democratic Party was like, yeah, let's, let's get Schumer and Jeffries back in there. And everybody was like, no, that isn't what we wanted. 00:08:54 Speaker 5: Yeah. 00:08:55 Speaker 4: Um, and for them to still not see that, but I think they're getting enough backlash that it's, it's coming a little clearer. I hope. 00:09:02 Speaker 3: Nice. Well, I mean, I, I have a measured amount of optimism myself and I'm glad, you know, you're feeling the same. Yeah. Um, and I, I think all of this is very appropriate for what we're, we're going to get into today. Um, But before I tell you what that is. 00:09:18 Speaker 4: I am dying to know. 00:09:19 Speaker 3: Well, I have a little game, a new segment that I've developed on the show, which is that I now like to give my guests three questions. 00:09:30 Speaker 4: Okay. 00:09:30 Speaker 3: That seem maybe unrelated. Okay. But they are clues. 00:09:36 Speaker 2: Okay. 00:09:37 Speaker 3: Now, if you can guess what we're going to talk about based on these clues, good on you. I think it will be impossible, and I delight in. 00:09:45 Speaker 3: Causing frustration for my guests. 00:09:49 Speaker 4: All right, I'm prepared to be annoyed. 00:09:51 Speaker 3: Adrienne, first question. 00:09:53 Speaker 1: Okay. 00:09:53 Speaker 3: Did you ever have a BB gun or slingshot phase? 00:09:56 Speaker 4: I did. 00:09:57 Speaker 3: Talk to me. What'd you have? Do you have a blow gun? 00:10:02 Speaker 4: In high school, I had a boyfriend that had a BB gun and I was like, I have never shot a BB gun. And so we went into the side of the yard and we set up a bunch of little green army men in front of the garage. And then we were trying to shoot the little green army men, but What happened was the BBs would just ricochet off the garage and fly back at us. And we're like, should we stop this? Like, literally, there's a whole Christmas movie about how we are definitely going to shoot our eyes out. And we're like, no, no, this is good. 00:10:34 Speaker 2: Yeah, it'll be fine. 00:10:35 Speaker 4: Yeah. It was fun. 00:10:37 Speaker 3: How long did this last? How long did this phase last? 00:10:41 Speaker 4: Not too long, but I remember having a good time with the BB gun. 00:10:45 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think there's something fun about things that shoot things. The proof of concept is there. People enjoy it. Kids love it. 00:10:52 Speaker 4: Yeah, my 30th birthday I went shooting handguns and rifles and stuff because I was living in Colorado and that's what you do. And it was fun. Yeah. It was a little bit terrifying. 00:11:05 Speaker 3: I loved slingshots, but then I discovered the slingshots that have the arm brace. 00:11:10 Speaker 4: Oh, those are so badass. 00:11:12 Speaker 3: Yeah, they are. I think a little too badass. And I think that the idea of what a slingshot was got expanded in my brain so wide that I no longer liked them. Question number two. 00:11:25 Speaker 4: Okay. 00:11:26 Speaker 3: If you could have one position in the president's cabinet that you're just making up, what would it be? Oh. You're creating a fictitious, imaginary role that you would be good at. 00:11:42 Speaker 4: Smackdown. 00:11:43 Speaker 3: Smackdown. 00:11:44 Speaker 4: Presidential smackdown position. 00:11:46 Speaker 3: What does this mean? 00:11:47 Speaker 4: Okay, so I think there needs to be somebody who just 30 minutes of the night, at the end of the day, just sits down and we talk about what you've been doing. And the second that you start to display just getting a little too full of yourself, a little too into yourself, just berate them. 00:12:09 Speaker 3: So this is the like scolding position. 00:12:11 Speaker 1: Yes. 00:12:12 Speaker 4: Like, like a really

judgmental mom. Like that's like, no, no. 00:12:18 Speaker 3: You, you proud of yourself for this? 00:12:19 Speaker 6: Yeah. 00:12:20 Speaker 4: You feel good about this? 00:12:21 Speaker 3: You have a good work day? Oh, well, really? 00:12:23 Speaker 4: You're a big man, aren't you? 00:12:27 Speaker 3: I like that even in your fantasy, it has to be a man president. Interesting, Adrian. 00:12:32 Speaker 4: They need it more, but I mean, I'm still to work through it. 00:12:36 Speaker 3: I think that's a solid position. I don't know about the name. The Smackdown thing. 00:12:41 Speaker 4: I could workshop that. I'm open to it. 00:12:43 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think we can do better than that. Because Smackdown, I also think that you might run into trouble from Dwayne the Rock Johnson. Who famously layeth the smacketh down on people's monkey asses. 00:12:54 Speaker 4: I don't want to step on anybody's toes. But like, I don't know, Minister of Judgment. 00:12:59 Speaker 3: Okay. I like the Minister. You could throw Czar in there too. Minister is good. 00:13:04 Speaker 4: Minister feels good. 00:13:05 Speaker 3: Cause I don't think we have a lot of ministers. 00:13:07 Speaker 4: No, I don't think, I think that's a parliamentary thing. 00:13:09 Speaker 3: Yeah. All right. I like that. Minister of scolding. Uh, question number three, what's the shortest height an alien could possibly be and still scare you? 00:13:18 Speaker 4: Oh, I think they're scarier if they're really little. 00:13:22 Speaker 3: See this, this is a problem that I ran into as soon as I had written the question. Cause I think it's a parabola thing. I think if. 00:13:30 Speaker 4: They like go inside you, that's worse. 00:13:32 Speaker 5: Yeah. 00:13:32 Speaker 3: Yeah, if they're very, very, very small, they're terrifying. But if they're like two feet tall, less scary than really big, right? 00:13:40 Speaker 4: I would say that the height at the peak of that parabola of like least threatening is probably about Smurf size. Hmm. 00:13:48 Speaker 3: So like three apples? 00:13:50 Speaker 4: Yeah. 00:13:54 Speaker 3: Hmm. I think that's still kind of scary. 00:13:57 Speaker 4: Okay. 00:13:58 Speaker 3: I think the height of the parabola for me would be somewhere around like three feet. 00:14:02 Speaker 6: Interesting. 00:14:02 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think a three foot tall alien I'd be less afraid of than something that could like run around my legs easier. Like a Smurf could run around my legs easier. 00:14:11 Speaker 4: Yeah. 00:14:12 Speaker 3: I think they'd have more agility at three apples tall. 00:14:15 Speaker 4: And then you get like a Gulliver situation. 00:14:18 Speaker 3: He underestimated those Lilliputians. And it was to his own detriment. 00:14:23 Speaker 4: Yeah. 00:14:23 Speaker 3: I think really, really big is scary. Really, really small is scary. 00:14:27 Speaker 4: I think even, oh God. Yeah, I mean, if they're Smurf-sized, it feels like they can get it in your mouth. 00:14:34

Speaker 3: Yeah, they definitely could. 00:14:35 Speaker 7: I don't like that. 00:14:36 Speaker 4: I don't like that at all. 00:14:37 Speaker 3: Smurfs, we're lucky they never tried to get in people's mouths in the show, because they could have. Could have been choking on sneezy Smurf. Wait, those are the dwarfs? Wait, don't the Smurfs have weird individual characteristics? Do you know one sneezes a lot? 00:14:56 Speaker 4: I think there was one that had allergies. 00:14:59 Speaker 3: Grumpy Smurf? 00:15:00 Speaker 4: Yeah, Baker Smurf just putting things in there. 00:15:03 Speaker 3: There's the one lady, Katy Perry. 00:15:05 Speaker 4: We can get into this, but she was made by Gargamel. 00:15:11 Speaker 3: That's true. 00:15:11 Speaker 4: She's a honeypot. 00:15:12 Speaker 3: She's a psyop. So now, you've heard the three questions, and it is upon you to guess what you think this episode might be about. 00:15:22 Speaker 4: BB guns, little aliens. 00:15:26 Speaker 3: President's cabinet position. 00:15:27 Speaker 4: And the king. Are we back to Mark Richards territory? Are we like, no, are we not space people? 00:15:35 Speaker 3: No. 00:15:35 Speaker 4: Oh, that's disappointing. Oh, is this going to be like disclosure people? 00:15:41 Speaker 3: No, I do have to disclose though, that every one of these clues is good, but terrible. There is probably no way that you would get the answer, but they're not bad. They're not bad clues. And you'll agree with me once we get to the end of the episode. 00:15:58 Speaker 4: I feel like it's going to be some sort of like Dean Cain, Kevin Sorbo territory, like an actor. But your face is telling me no. 00:16:06 Speaker 3: No, you're going, you're getting a little bit too ambitious and creative. Okay. 00:16:10 Speaker 4: Like nobody on E.T. was really. 00:16:14 Speaker 3: Wait, you mean the movie E.T. or Entertainment Tonight? 00:16:16 Speaker 4: Yeah, Drew Barrymore just grew up crazy. 00:16:18 Speaker 5: No. 00:16:19 Speaker 3: What we're doing by popular demand. 00:16:22 Speaker 2: Oh, okay. 00:16:22 Speaker 3: People have insisted that we do this. I have not gotten back to Alex Jones. 00:16:27 Speaker 4: Oh my God. 00:16:28 Speaker 3: And so today we have to talk about the midterms. 00:16:32 Speaker 4: Yeah. 00:16:32 Speaker 3: So we're talking about Alex Jones's live stream about the midterms, where he is very sober and totally cool. 00:16:41 Speaker 4: I am so honored. 00:16:45 Speaker 3: Well, you know, first of all, we live pretty close to each other, so it's easy to short notice get you over here. 00:16:52 Speaker 4: That's true. I never in a million years thought it would be the big guy. 00:16:56 Speaker 3: So did you hear anything about this? Have you seen any memes? 00:17:03 Speaker 4: I saw a little bit on the Reddit of him smoking and looking about a million years old. 00:17:10 Speaker 3: Yeah. I think one of his problems is he goes too long. I think he goes too late into the night. And he runs out

of all momentum. And he's also clearly drinking. 00:17:21 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:17:22 Speaker 4: You gotta smoke. Like, I. 00:17:25 Speaker 4: I miss smoking. But if you want to stay up like all night, especially if you're drinking, you got to smoke. 00:17:30 Speaker 3: He mentioned cigars. I know at least he's, he's got cigars going. 00:17:34 Speaker 4: Like five cigarettes at once. 00:17:39 Speaker 3: So I think that one of the things we could be very clear about is that like, they didn't enter the night with much hope. 00:17:47 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:17:47 Speaker 3: Everybody was pretty clear that like GOP was going to lose. 00:17:52 Speaker 4: Okay. Cause they're also like, they're, kind of peeling off a Trump a little bit, right? 00:17:58 Speaker 3: They're trying. 00:17:59 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:17:59 Speaker 4: So, okay. That's interesting that they, their anticipation. 00:18:03 Speaker 3: Oh yeah. Alex is very much in the camp of like, uh, fuck Trump now, but also like, can we have that power? You know, like the, he's basically in a, like Israel and by Israel, I mean, Jewish people have caused the downfall of the GOP and, And we are the real ones, us white people. And so I would like to take over this, but I don't like the people who are in charge now. Okay. 00:18:34 Speaker 4: Well, it's where he is best, where he's in opposition to those in power, but also shooting for his vision of America. 00:18:44 Speaker 3: I might say he was best. I don't know if this works anymore. God bless him for trying, but I don't know if this works anymore. 00:18:52 Speaker 4: His star is tarnished. Yeah. 00:18:55 Speaker 3: So let's jump in here. Alex starts the stream at about 7 p.m. And like I said, vibes are bad. You know, no one's thinking we're going to keep the... I think Alex's take at the beginning is like, we're definitely losing the Senate. Who knows about the House? That's kind of where he's at. And so here we are. 00:19:18 Speaker 2: Okay. That's all coming up tonight. 00:19:21 Speaker 1: But first, a very important message from Magatard from episode three, Revenge of the Sith. 00:19:30 Speaker 2: Come back, Magatard. 00:19:33 Speaker 1: Whatever you think of me, don't turn your back on everything we fought for. 00:19:37 Speaker 2: I'm still fighting for it! Then why are you standing against me? 00:19:42 Speaker 3: That kind of caught me off guard. Uh... I've not really been listening to much of Alex's content lately and trying to branch out. into some other folks who make bad media. So I'd forgotten that his show was for babies. I literally was like, oh, that's right. That's what the show's like. He plays memes. 00:20:01 Speaker 4: No, he didn't, Dan. No, he didn't. What was that? 00:20:06 Speaker 3: That was like a Star Wars Anakin. I think those were going around on social media a bunch. There's a bunch of like prequel reclamation stuff going on. 00:20:15 Speaker 4: What is his thing with Star Wars? 00:20:17 Speaker 3: I don't think it's just him. I

think there was a bunch of people like Elon Musk was doing like Anakin posting. 00:20:24 Speaker 4: Oh my God. But he's been playing the Imperial March like as a bumper soundtrack for like 20 years. 00:20:30 Speaker 2: For 30 years. 00:20:31 Speaker 3: The whole time. I think it, I mean, it rocks, but it's also the bad guys theme. 00:20:36 Speaker 4: Yeah, it really seems like a miscalculation on that front, but I don't know. Yeah. 00:20:41 Speaker 3: So I'm not in a situation where these other shows that I've been watching are good, but I was struck by how right out of the gate, Alex is not trying. 00:20:50 Speaker 4: Okay. 00:20:50 Speaker 3: They need to fill time, and this AI meme had some views on Twitter, so they let it leave the show. Like, this is lazy shit, and Alex is in his 50s. So, like, I feel so bad for... like minute one. 00:21:04 Speaker 4: Oh my God. So yeah, we're, we're in for, yeah, he should be full of like righteous anger at this time. 00:21:12 Speaker 3: That is some, I was right. 00:21:14 Speaker 4: Yes. 00:21:14 Speaker 3: I think that, uh, he has Harrison, uh, on as his sort of co-host through most of this. And I think he, he gets, uh, to embody a bit more of that. Okay. Um, and also a lot of antisemitism. 00:21:27 Speaker 4: Oh boy. 00:21:29 Speaker 3: So everyone knows GOP is losing. 00:21:31 Speaker 4: Uh huh. 00:21:32 Speaker 3: And Alex wants to take the classy high road kind of position where I take no pleasure in this. Okay. But you aren't my friends anymore. 00:21:42 Speaker 4: Okay. 00:21:42 Speaker 1: So I'm not rooting against the Republicans tonight with so much satisfaction like many people attacked by Trump have done. I'm very sad this evening about what we're facing. And I sat in this studio 10 years ago tonight. With Roger Stone right there with our unprecedented victory. And Trump was definitely the underdog under total attack. Didn't do insider trading. Did the best job he could. It was incredible. In four years of trying to kill him, put him in prison. And the first four or five months last year, it was like a dream. People said, why are you glazing Trump? Why are you just in full worship mode? And I said, look what's happening. And then the Epstein stuff came out. And I've studied it. It was mainly Democrats involved. But Trump said, I'm protecting my friends. And I'm like, sorry, I'm not with Howard Ludnick and the pedophile class. I'm not like the Democrats that backs a party that's evil. I am not supporting that. 00:22:41 Speaker 3: That seems like a great story. 00:22:43 Speaker 8: Yeah. 00:22:44 Speaker 3: If true. 00:22:45 Speaker 4: Does Roger still talk to him? 00:22:47 Speaker 3: They do. Yeah, they'll still do an interview every now and again. It's not pleasant. Because Roger is... Someone who's never going to change his perspective. And is a transparent rat fucker. 00:23:04 Speaker 4: Yes, he is. He's so sad. And he's so sad. And his friend Roger, he doesn't come around no more. 00:23:13 Speaker 3: He's like, he burned all these bridges. Larry Nichols is dead. Steve Pachanik, who knows where the fuck he is. Alex doesn't want to talk to him anymore. All the old school guys are gone. All I got left is Roger. 00:23:24 Speaker 4: Raising his glass of Tito's to an empty chair. 00:23:28 Speaker 3: Where's Owen? 00:23:30 Speaker 4: Oh, no. I've lost all my friends. 00:23:33 Speaker 3: Hello, darkness, my old friend. 00:23:36 Speaker 4: Oh, my God. 00:23:38 Speaker 3: So Alex is lying. He tried to hold on to Trump as long as he could, far past the Epstein stuff and even into attacking Iran. This is just a fiction he's trying to pass off. 00:23:47 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:23:48 Speaker 4: Wasn't he saying that he was like a mob boss back then? 00:23:51 Speaker 3: In 2015, he was saying that. 00:23:52 Speaker 6: Yeah. 00:23:52 Speaker 3: He was saying he was mobbed. Trump was mobbed up. 00:23:55 Speaker 4: Yeah. 00:23:55 Speaker 3: You get arrested if your name is Corleone. You don't if your name is Trump. That kind of shit. Alex didn't get to a point where he couldn't be a part of an evil party anymore. It's just a situation where the brand isn't viable. Right-wing media influencers are kind of divided into two camps. There's pragmatists and idealists, which are both terms that I'm using very generously. Pragmatists understand the reality of institutional power, and were mostly the voices who were still supporting the GOP, even though the majority of them were not thrilled with Trump. For them, it was a clear decision between Republicans winning or Democrats winning, and the prior was preferable to the latter. Idealists are a much more interesting group, because within their ranks, it's very difficult to tell the difference between a zealot and a fraud. Almost all of the people that I find interesting are in the idealist camp, because that tension is so much deeper than someone whose whole point is just, I want my side to win. In the midterms, the pragmatists were holding the line and encouraging folks to suck it up and vote red, while the idealists were saying not to vote or to vote Democrat as a way of sending a message to the GOP that enough is enough. The game here is pretty simple. It's just slightly different depending on the idealist media figure. a fraud, is sending this messaging because they don't really care who's in power, and their position in the media is mostly about crafting narratives around the things that happen. They understand the government to be a reality show that they're commenting on, so whoever wins the midterms, they get the immunity necklace, but the show goes on regardless. These people have shifted away from Trump primarily because the brand is toxic now, and no one is going to take their position seriously if they keep supporting him, even if they do it with a wing. On the other hand, the zealot encouraged not voting or voting Democrat because they're making a calculated gamble. They want a government like what

Trump has done, or even worse, and they've correctly assessed that Trump can't really get anything else accomplished. His presidency is dead in the water, even if they held on to Congress. Having Democrats in the majority can work to the zealot's advantage, because if the opposition is in charge... they may spend way too much of their political capital on things like impeachments, which are necessary but also don't directly help the people in our country who are struggling. The zealot's gamble is that the Democrats will not govern effectively, and that there's a chance that things will become so hostile in the next two years that they'll be able to galvanize passions around a truly fucked up right-wing candidate in 2028. Alex himself is a fraud, but he's surrounded by a lot of zealots. And I think it would be wise for people to understand some of those dynamics when they're approaching these media figures, especially in these next two years. 00:26:39 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's interesting. I do appreciate, I use that term because I can't think of a better one. Tucker Carlson and Nick Fuentes, I believe that they have They are racist values. 00:26:59 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. 00:27:00 Speaker 4: But I actually... They do not deter from their... What is good for the white goose is good for the gander. I believe them when they say stuff for... Maybe not every time, but I do believe that they have a position that is consistent. 00:27:19 Speaker 3: Some, yeah. 00:27:20 Speaker 4: Yeah. I think some of those... I mean, Tucker clearly lies about stuff all the time if it's convenient, but it's... to cover or, or move forward like his agenda. 00:27:31 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:27:31 Speaker 4: Um, but yeah, like Alex is just swimming in the ocean, you know, pivoting as needed. 00:27:39 Speaker 3: Yeah. Tucker and like, he is the sort of person, at least now his media brand has changed so much over the years, but at least now it's organized around a central pillar, which is that white identity shit. Yeah. Alex would prefer that stuff when he wants that. But also, he's really desperate to make sure whatever he's doing is marketable at a certain point. 00:28:03 Speaker 4: Yeah. 00:28:04 Speaker 3: Tucker, he's like a snake charmer, and Alex is the snake being charmed. 00:28:11 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:28:12 Speaker 3: Kind of. They're in the same act. They're playing in front of the same audience, basically, but they're different stages of leader follower. 00:28:24 Speaker 4: Like two fish in the same current. 00:28:26 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, kissing fish. 00:28:30 Speaker 4: Do it, kiss, kiss. 00:28:31 Speaker 3: Come on. So Alex, like I said, there's no illusions here about the idea that they're gonna lose. But he's keeping his options open for how they're gonna talk about it. 00:28:46 Speaker 1: We're gonna be covering that right through the evening and I have this issue where I wake up at 3.30, 4 in the morning, no matter what, I'll be okay. I actually feel great. but I've got to be able to come back tomorrow. It's going to be Wednesday and Thursday. We've already made the graphic for the contested election. I mean, you know that's coming. 00:29:03 Speaker 3: Yes, we've already decided that, like, hey, every other election we cover, it's stolen, so probably going to do that here. 00:29:10 Speaker 4: You know, I am a woman of a certain age, and I went on, like, hormones recently for perimenopause because I wake up at 3 o'clock in the morning because there's a cortisol spike, Mind you, if there are doctors listening, I've learned everything I know from ads that are targeted at me. 00:29:31 Speaker 3: Sky Rizzy ads. 00:29:33 Speaker 4: So somebody might have just been trying to sell me estrogen, but basically it's like a cortisol spike at like three in the morning. And then you wake up like ready to fight, you know, like it's hard to go back to sleep. And so I'm wondering if he's just got some sort of, well, he's got that sleep. 00:29:51 Speaker 3: Are you suggesting Alex is the Perry? 00:29:53 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:29:54 Speaker 4: Maybe he just needs to get on the moans. 00:29:57 Speaker 3: I think he probably does a lot of testosterone. I think he probably is quite into hormone replacement. Or supplementation. 00:30:05 Speaker 4: Maybe he has to peel back a little bit. 00:30:09 Speaker 3: I feel a little bit bad for him that no one wanted to go along with the election was stolen stories. He had the graphics ready. 00:30:18 Speaker 4: Oh, and they were like, nah. 00:30:20 Speaker 3: Nah, go back to bed. Sorry, dude. I don't know, but maybe a good sign. It's an interesting sign that every other election... since Trump has come along, it's just been a drumbeat of, like, stop the steal shit. And that kind of, the election was stolen. And I don't really feel like there's been a lot of that. It might be a changing time. 00:30:43 Speaker 4: It did seem like they were trying to. Like, I was seeing a lot of it in social media, like, where people were kind of setting it up. But they were also going more strongly with their narrative, like, there's no way like this is just where the country wants to be. And the loony left is like, maybe they'll try some, you know, shenanigans, but like it never really stuck. 00:31:06 Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, and so much of the group that's empowered and trying to run the right wing now is, or at least the, the media space is these antisematically driven people and the election kind of works to their benefit. If it's stolen, then it's not a repudiation of Israel, you know, like, they can't use this the way they want if it's a stolen election. So I wonder how much that is also kind of motivating these, these bullshit artists. 00:31:33 Speaker 5: Yeah. 00:31:34 Speaker 4: And it could just be like them positioning, like they know Trump's not maybe healthy enough to continue his term or whatever. And they, they need a breaking point to like switch their horse behind JD Vance. 00:31:47 Speaker 3:

Yeah. We had, we had a cut bait somehow. Yeah. 00:31:49 Speaker 4: I don't know why they give all of Congress power over to the Democrats in the process, but. 00:31:56 Speaker 3: Well, none of these people are really all that into J.D. Vance either. I mean, they will be, but they're not now. 00:32:01 Speaker 4: He's the most Riz-less individual I've ever seen in my life. 00:32:05 Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, I think there's a couple others that are weirdly also talked about as the frontrunners, like Marco Rubio, no Riz. 00:32:15 Speaker 4: Yeah. 00:32:16 Speaker 3: Ron DeSantis, Ron DeSanctimonious, no Riz. So yeah, they've got a problem. 00:32:24 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:32:24 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:32:26 Speaker 4: It is an issue. Cause I mean like only Peter Thiel could have thought this guy was charismatic. 00:32:31 Speaker 3: Yeah. Dorks, dorks, pick dorks. 00:32:34 Speaker 4: These are duds. 00:32:36 Speaker 3: So, uh, the blue wave has, uh, has arrived. And, uh, Alex is like, all right, I'm going to, I'm going to make some money off this. 00:32:44 Speaker 4: Okay. 00:32:44 Speaker 1: As things unfold tonight, we'll get to all the numbers, but things are not looking good right now. We can just put them on screen and run through them for you. But, the prediction of a blue wave is happening right now. And you've got all this talk about doomsday, the rest of it. Let me just do this. What I know is we can fund this operation and expand in the face of this tyranny when people are listening more than ever and need the truth and give you what you need to get prepared and get ready. The Pentagon is saying you need three months of food and water. We have the widest selection, seven major food companies, the very best prices in At survivalnation.com. And we have all the water filtration, all the Faraday cages, all the solar panels, all the charging. 00:33:30 Speaker 2: Solar panels? Survivalnation.com. 00:33:33 Speaker 1: And I'm really excited that they've got all of these less lethal technologies there so that the Soros judges don't throw you in prison when people are trying to break into your house. The rubber bullets, the pepper spray, the pepper bullets. The widest selection, lowest prices. 00:33:50 Speaker 3: This is an escalation. 00:33:51 Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, he wasn't doing weapons before, but goddamn, that beautiful bastard can smoothly go into an ad pivot. That was beautiful. 00:34:02 Speaker 3: This early in the night, he's okay at that. He's not too tired or drunk to pull that kind of thing off. That's muscle memory, and man's got it. I think it is a bad omen that he's selling weapons. 00:34:16 Speaker 4: Yeah, you think? 00:34:18 Speaker 3: I know that he was selling a knife, like a battle knife or whatever before. But somehow a blade is less scary to me than him being like, you got to get rubber bullets. I got rifle. 00:34:28 Speaker 2: I got air guns. 00:34:31 Speaker 4: You got to hide your guns like era of where he was selling like the manuals

about how to like, build your cache of weapons. 00:34:40 Speaker 3: But at least that's just, like, advice. 00:34:42 Speaker 4: Yeah. 00:34:42 Speaker 3: This is weapons. 00:34:43 Speaker 4: That was just speaking to the people who already had a cache of weapons. 00:34:47 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. And I like that Alex's sales pitch about this is, like, all right, so you get these rubber bullets, so the Soros DAs can't charge you when you shoot somebody who runs into your house. He's acting like he likes non-lethal weapons. 00:35:03 Speaker 5: Right. 00:35:03 Speaker 3: As opposed to, like, no, it's illegal for you to sell gun guns. 00:35:06 Speaker 5: Yeah. 00:35:07 Speaker 3: You would be arrested for that you can sell air guns. 00:35:10 Speaker 4: Okay i i thought maybe he was just tempering it like i'm willing to escalate to selling weaponry but i can't be lethal. 00:35:21 Speaker 3: Well i mean who knows i mean i think you have to have a special license for that and then like interstate sales would probably be really really difficult to do but like i wouldn't be surprised if like that became an option for him or like he had nowhere else to go, like selling arms. He's hanging out with that guy, Victor Boot a lot. That guy made, he sold a lot of guns. 00:35:40 Speaker 4: Yeah, that is true. 00:35:42 Speaker 3: Maybe these are Victor Boot air guns. 00:35:48 Speaker 4: It's got his face on them. 00:35:50 Speaker 3: I will sell you a rubber bomb. Yeah, it's bad. I was pretty surprised that this is kind of the lead sponsor thing that he keeps mentioning. 00:36:00 Speaker 4: Oh, no. 00:36:01 Speaker 3: The air guns. And the ad that he's doing is so long, it goes on forever. 00:36:07 Speaker 1: But I'm telling you right now, I only have a handgun and a rifle. One does pepper balls, one does rubber bullets. And I'm like, I need more of that. In your car, antifas around your car. like that Army sergeant a few years ago, and they pulled him over, put an 847 at him. 00:36:27 Speaker 2: He killed the guy. 00:36:28 Speaker 1: He had to get pardoned by the governor, went through hell, got put in prison for three years. Imagine if you just had rubber bullets. And the laws totally protect you with these. And let me tell you, you get hit by one of these rubber bullets. I'm not putting down the pepper ball ones. We have those too. Those hit kind of hard. I'm testing them. We'll test a shot with one like 50 feet away. 00:36:49 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, whatever. In your face. Oh, your eyes water. 00:36:53 Speaker 1: Rubber bullets, it's not, you shoot somebody with these, unless they're on PCP, they're going to be running. So I would suggest you get the rubber bullets. And those are sold out almost everywhere. You go to other sites, they say they have them, they don't. 00:37:08 Speaker 3: I get the fun image of like, I'm Alex Jones, welcome to Jackass. He's just doing the Johnny Knoxville, like self-defense testing, shooting himself with rubber bullets. 00:37:19 Speaker 4: They are definitely hunting each other. 00:37:21 Speaker 3: I couldn't blame them because I think I would if I were there. 00:37:26 Speaker 4: Yeah. 00:37:26 Speaker 3: If I worked at what was FKA Infowars, I think I would probably stalk employees. And I wouldn't mind if they did the same thing to me, like hunting each other with air guns. Yeah. Back when I worked at a movie theater, I had this koosh ball kind of thing. And me and another employee, we would try and hit each other really hard with it out of nowhere. 00:37:51 Speaker 9: Right. 00:37:52 Speaker 3: And it was particularly dangerous because the projection booth is all dark. So you could hide a lot of places there and really sneak up on someone and whip that goosh ball at them. So if we had air guns and everybody was cool with it, I think we probably would have been doing that. 00:38:09 Speaker 4: I used to hang out at a parkour gym and they had some cattle prods, like stun guns, like stun wands. And they used to like zap each other with them. They would mace each other and stuff to see, which I no doubt these guys have gotten drunk in the InfoWars compound and just started pepper spraying, seeing who's the biggest man. 00:38:31 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. 00:38:32 Speaker 4: They're 100% hunting Harrison Smith with pepper balls. 00:38:36 Speaker 3: It's just bringing paintball into the workplace. Yes. 00:38:41 Speaker 4: And making it hurt more. 00:38:43 Speaker 3: Yeah. Which, I mean, it toughens you up. What doesn't kill you makes you stronger. 00:38:47 Speaker 4: Oh, my God. I knew this bouncer once, and he was, like, an ex, like, Marine. And he said that they were going to do, like, paintball. And just to spice it up, they decided that they would, like, freeze, like, ten paintballs. Oh, no. 00:39:04 Speaker 3: That sounds awful. 00:39:05 Speaker 4: And he got hit with one immediately. And he was like, we are not doing this anymore. 00:39:11 Speaker 1: Right. 00:39:12 Speaker 3: I'm not playing. I'm not playing. I'm out. 00:39:14 Speaker 6: I'm out. 00:39:15 Speaker 3: Fuck this. We used to shoot fireworks at each other, me and my buddies. I remember Saturn missiles are, I think they hurt less than bottle rockets, but I don't remember the exact detail. I remember a couple of times people being like, fuck this, this is over. This is over. That one really hurt. 00:39:35 Speaker 4: This has got too far. 00:39:36 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:39:36 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:39:37 Speaker 4: And these people are much stupider. So it's just a hundred percent that they are torturing one of them. 00:39:43 Speaker 3: Well, and they hate OSHA. They have no workplace regulations or safety kind of stuff. 00:39:50 Speaker 2: Come on. 00:39:52 Speaker 3: On your toes, Harrison. 00:39:54 Speaker 4: It's when you really need the cuck destroyer on your team. I'm sure they're feeling his loss. 00:39:59 Speaker 3: Yeah. He was the, what was it? The Info Wars super male vitality champion. Remember when he

wrestled with Alex? Oh, the memories. 00:40:10 Speaker 4: Was that the competition he won? 00:40:13 Speaker 3: No, they had a belt and everything. One day Alex was really drunk and they just wrestled. Anyway, at the beginning of his midterm election stream, Alex goes to a simulcast with another broadcaster by the name of Ben Swan. We've talked about him a little bit. He was a, I can't remember what station he was on, but he was kind of like a mainstream guy. And then he started to get into like Pizzagate kind of stuff and just went down the conspiracy path. But yeah. They have their simulcast, and it goes fine. 00:41:13 Speaker 9: There is also, on the issue of course correction, you know, we've talked about this before, you have... really the neocons hiding under rocks for the last few years because since 2016, it became very unpopular to be a Republican and a neocon. And then you had a few of them like Lindsey Graham who hung around, right? But he wasn't very popular. And then all of a sudden, you talked about four months into this administration, the second time around, Trump changes course. All of a sudden, Lindsey Graham becomes his best friend. 00:41:40 Speaker 3: And then somehow. 00:41:42 Speaker 9: Republicans decide, oh, it's okay to be a neocon again, and they all kind of got up. Does tonight, if they lose the Senate and the House, does tonight remind the Republican Party, we don't want the neocons, you don't have a place, you're not actually popular? 00:41:58 Speaker 2: Well, exactly. 00:41:59 Speaker 1: I mean, I remember a year ago, George W. Bush out of Dallas said, we're coming back. 00:42:05 Speaker 2: We're taking back over. 00:42:06 Speaker 3: So in the first hour of his coverage, Alex simulcast with Ben Swan, who he keeps calling Ben Swan. It's unclear why he's pronouncing it that way, but it is consistent and incorrect. I think this clip touches on something that's underneath the problems that the right wing coalition has at the moment. And the way it's destined to play out is going to be ugly. Up until the Tea Party movement or so, there was a GOP coalition that mostly involved neoconservatives, some old-school conservatives, some libertarians, and some independents. It did not include shitheads like Alex, who the party and the mainstream gave zero attention outside of very infrequent mockery. The party rightly assessed that they would have the fringe extreme vote no matter what, because folks like Alex are too fucked up to ever build a meaningful coalition and they could get behind a non-GOP candidate. They'd all end up fighting with each other and alienating anybody they tried to work with, and by the time any elections come along, you could rely on them to vote Republican because the alternative was a baby-killing communist. The coalition worked fine, because Alex and his ilk were mostly interested in talking shit, whereas the GOP was interested in organized power. My theory is that Obama and his popularity made the mainstream right-wing panic. and in that panic, they opened the door to the Alex types. They needed to create a bigger tent, and they fucked up when they decided to do it by empowering a group that explicitly hates them. After 2012 and into 2016, the GOP coalition became that old GOP coalition, but now also all of the racists and shitheads who were previously reliable Republican votes, but who were kept well at bay. Trump catered to those people, and in turn, they hero-worshipped him, which became a self-feeding cycle. Trump became a god-king, and by extension, that small addition to the GOP coalition began to look more and more important electorally. Because it worked, and Trump provided the access to institutional power and lawmaking that the old GOP was after, they let these shitheads in the gate, and now we're seeing the consequence. Both sides view themselves as the real Republicans in the coalition, but there's a key difference. The old GOP thinks that they're dealing with fellow conservatives who may be able to get back in line and course correct for 2028, but the folks like Alex are willing to blow this whole thing up if they don't get their way. The old GOP can't deal with their fringe as an existential threat because they know that without that fringe, they can't win an election. That fringe also knows that the old GOP knows that they need them, so now they can effectively hold the party hostage. Yeah. And I think that that is what we're going to see with them. And I think, unfortunately, it seems more likely to me that they will give in to the demands of the fringe. 00:45:01 Speaker 4: Yeah. My first thought is it's funny to hear them say that, like, Trump wins. loved Lindsey Graham because he doxxed him. 00:45:11 Speaker 3: Sure. He liked him at points. 00:45:14 Speaker 8: Yeah. 00:45:15 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:45:15 Speaker 4: And he certainly like would give, say something nice about him and give him like a backhanded compliment, you know, like he would, he'd always got to give him a little dig. But I, I do think that's a really interesting movement to, to kind of dissect. Cause I, I was just talking to my partner about this. The, the Democrats are now in the position of, where MAGA was. So like when MAGA started winning elections and starting to fill up actual positions in, in Congress and Senate, um, there was this like shift and like, what are people voting for? Are they voting for the MAGA coalition or are they, uh, voting for the conservatives? And MAGA just ate the conservatives. the few left standing just sort of bow down to whatever the agenda is and stay in line. But the people who are controlling it are the, the mega loyalists. And now we have this wave of sort of the, the DSA influence progressive movement coming in and taking over the establishment Democrats, or at least like that's, that's the struggle that's happening right now. It's the, the Democrats have such a strong like, we give our favor to those who've earned it,

to the party, who've been here the longest, who are the loyal ones, who are, we deem to be the rising stars. The consultants have worked out these are the most moderate, appealing messages. And it's ringing false to people because it's just cultivated and there's no standing in conviction. It's just sort of, creating a politician shell that is saleable. And so now we have this energy that is coming from people who actually want to see government function and to create new avenues and revolutions. So we're on the rise of where MAGA was, like, you know, 2016. Yeah, in a lot of ways. 00:47:26 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I mean, I don't... It's not exactly the same. There are similarities, but yeah, yeah, I see what you mean. 00:47:31 Speaker 4: I don't think that the DSA is equivalent to MAGA in terms of the conspiracy and the movement has the same kind of weight. But I do think it is interesting to see how those power dynamics parallel. I think that could be an interesting thing to watch. But I think the difference in terms of the outcome of that will be how much actual refunctioning of the government can they build? Like how much are they able to actually build that people can tangibly like move forward as opposed to grandstanding and hating trans people and like tearing things down? 00:48:14 Speaker 3: Yeah. And I think that the measure of the difference between the, that 2016 and now has to be that like, The people who are coming in and getting elected and have this momentum and have this movement, they need to move things to the left. And they need to move things, you know, ideas need to become more prevalent. The problem with what happened with MAGA and all this shit is they wanted to take over. There needs to be a shifting, not a taking over. Because if there's a shifting of consciousness and priorities, then everyone can come along. If there's a desire to take over a party that is just like an apparatus towards power, then we're just gonna get stuck in the same kind of a petty fight, I think. And I hope that evolution, as opposed to fight, happens. 00:49:16 Speaker 4: Yeah, but I think that the motion of MAGA and of the sort of socialist wave that's coming are both from the idea that the status quo is not functioning. 00:49:31 Speaker 3: Sure. 00:49:31 Speaker 4: And so that energy is coming. It's almost like the first wave willing to snatch power was the grifters. And the second wave was the people who saw that it needed to be fixed. At least that's clearly my bias and my point of view. But that's how I kind of see those things trending. And I do think they are born of the same frustration. 00:49:57 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would agree with that. And I think that one of the things that, because of that experience that we have in that history, we have to do a very good job or try to do a good job to make sure that whatever this, that momentum is, isn't captured by a new generation of grift. 00:50:17 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:50:18 Speaker 3: You know, like, uh, and I, I worry about that, but we'll see how that develops. 00:50:22 Speaker 4: Yeah. 00:50:23 Speaker 3: So, um, one of the things that's really fun about Alex's live shows is sometimes he, uh, forgets to mute his mic. And so he, he's playing his own commercial, uh, And he mutters over it here. 00:50:38 Speaker 2: Dried fruits, storable candies. You want tasty stuff. 00:50:41 Speaker 1: Baraday bags, EMP protection, security gear, super sleek Baraday clothing, tactical gear, knives, flashlights, survival kits. 00:50:52 Speaker 4: What did he say? 00:50:53 Speaker 3: Non-lethal weapons. He's like correcting his commercial as it's playing. Very weird. Very strange vibes. But I enjoy it. I miss it. It's a show for babies. 00:51:06 Speaker 4: I tried to watch InfoWars once. I think it was like one of the election nights or something during COVID. And I was like, this is unlistenable. It's so many commercials. I couldn't believe how hard it is to listen to. 00:51:19 Speaker 3: Yeah. I think I've given people a little bit of a distorted view of like it being entertaining. 00:51:24 Speaker 4: Yeah. 00:51:24 Speaker 3: I think you actually watch it and it's like, this goes on for fucking ever. 00:51:28 Speaker 4: Like, I know you talk about it being like in context. 00:51:31 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:51:32 Speaker 4: But the clips aren't that long. And I think you just kind of assume like, it's just like sort of a little section that got lifted out. And like, this is his full thought in like context, but it's like the amount of time he talks like before going to another commercial, it's so short. 00:51:49 Speaker 3: A lot of, yeah. A lot of the times it is. And a lot of times you, uh, you're listening to him talk for like a minute before you realize like, Oh, this is a commercial. 00:51:58 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:51:59 Speaker 3: I thought this was content. This is a commercial. 00:52:02 Speaker 4: It's oops all ads. 00:52:03 Speaker 3: Yeah. So Harrison Smith comes in as the co-host. And I think that they have a little bit of an incoherent thought here. 00:52:12 Speaker 8: We may lose Texas literally just because of the, I mean, you contributed to a lot of things, but the gap will be narrow enough that it's just the number of legal immigrants in the last four years alone. 00:52:24 Speaker 2: Texas never beat Democrat, boy. 00:52:27 Speaker 7: It'll never come back. 00:52:28 Speaker 8: It'll never come back if it goes blue and it looks like it is going blue tonight. 00:52:32 Speaker 2: Yeah, once they get control, it's election fraud. 00:52:34 Speaker 6: That's it. 00:52:34 Speaker 8: Because the Democrats actually do things to guarantee that they remain in power. Yeah, they start empowering and funding their programs. They start giving out grants to their constituents and they solidify their ownership. 00:52:48 Speaker 2: At the end of the day, we've got Trump and the war in Israel to thank. What do you think of Mark Levin? 00:52:54 Speaker 1: I saw it like

an hour ago. Mark Levin's like, don't blame me. We're going to lose everything. We do blame you, asshole. 00:53:00 Speaker 3: I know what they mean is that once Democrats are in office, they'll use election fraud to stay in power forever. But it's also easy to hear Harrison's complaining as him saying that when Democrats get into office, they actually do things. I know it's supposed to sound scary, but empowering people and giving out grants to improve living conditions sounds like what government's supposed to do. Oh, God. 00:53:21 Speaker 1: The. 00:53:22 Speaker 4: Dynamic between the two of them is the exact feeling of being in an improv scene with somebody who is just hijacking their own idea. 00:53:31 Speaker 3: Hold on now, Andrea. What do you mean by that? 00:53:35 Speaker 4: It's Michael Scott just pulling out the gun in every scene and everybody else going. 00:53:41 Speaker 3: I wish he actually did. And it was an air gun. 00:53:46 Speaker 4: Just shoot Harrison. 00:53:49 Speaker 3: I think that if he wanted to get good ratings. 00:53:53 Speaker 2: Why not? 00:53:54 Speaker 3: Or if you want it to be even safer, his son is supposed to take over for him later in the night. Shoot your son. Shoot your son with the air gun. He's not going to sue you. 00:54:03 Speaker 1: No. 00:54:05 Speaker 4: I think he could get Rogan on if he said he could shoot Harrison. That's quite an incentive. 00:54:14 Speaker 3: Based on the guests that did show up, I'm going to say I don't think Rogan would show up even for Harrison is going to get shot. I think he still would be like, I don't know if I want to associate with this anymore. 00:54:26 Speaker 4: I mean, Rogan probably can shoot Jamie. Like, he probably already has people he could shoot. 00:54:31 Speaker 3: Sure. Kurt Metzger, get over here. Duncan Trussell, take off that stupid outfit. I think that Harrison, you're totally right that there is a, like, improv scene stealing dynamic between them because harrison's trying to be all business and what have you and alex's he's just he's trying to. 00:54:54 Speaker 4: Be fun he is not listening i think. 00:54:57 Speaker 3: He realizes how not fun harrison is and he's trying to overcompensate. 00:55:01 Speaker 4: Yeah that's true he's like i can hear this being. 00:55:03 Speaker 3: Boring yeah we're not moving any food buckets or air guns with this dweeb. 00:55:09 Speaker 4: Yeah, no, it's a studio of duds. He rightfully is like, I am the only one trying here. 00:55:16 Speaker 3: So Alex needs some backup. 00:55:19 Speaker 4: Yeah. 00:55:20 Speaker 3: Because boring boy over here. Yeah. So they get Gavin McGinnis on the line. and Gavin has some points he wants to drop. 00:55:28 Speaker 10: It's going to be two years of absolute chaos. You know, the good news is, as a selfish person, as someone who does shows like this, this is good for us. 00:55:37 Speaker 3: This is content. So we'll be rich. 00:55:39 Speaker 10: It's like when Mamdani won as mayor. 00:55:41 Speaker 2: Oh, that's not a lie. 00:55:42 Speaker 1: My show will get much bigger under communist takeover. Oh, come on, Gavin. Don't be like that. Like, you're happy because your show's going to explode? 00:55:51 Speaker 10: Yes, that's all I care about is me. I'm a liberal deep down. No, it's obviously terrible, guys. And it's going to be a brutal two years of violence and rioting. But I'm still optimistic about the next election. 00:56:07 Speaker 3: And Gavin and Alex are trying to pretend they're joking, but that's real. 00:56:11 Speaker 4: Oh, yeah. He just like put his cards on the table like you're not supposed to say that part. 00:56:15 Speaker 3: Yeah, their enemies are always just about to win, while simultaneously just about to lose, and always just about to make their big move. None of it's real, this is all a game. If they cared about the idea of a communist takeover and any of the shit that they constantly fearmongered about being real, they would be doing whatever they could to make sure Democrats didn't win any power. They could still not like Trump and be as mad as they want to be at Mark Levin, but It would be a vote red no matter what situation because Dems getting an office is supposed to be game over. The fact that it's not game over kind of reveals that all their talk about how Trump was humanity's last chance was bullshit. That clip is something that they're trying to play off as a joke, but it's actually, I believe, a very clear picture of their motivations. They don't care. This is going to be good for business. 00:57:05 Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, because they're not activists. Well, maybe Gavin, but I mean, they're media people. 00:57:10 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:57:12 Speaker 3: And they're rich. 00:57:13 Speaker 4: Yeah. 00:57:14 Speaker 3: Their lives will be primarily unaffected by whatever these communist takeover... Like, he's supposed to believe that AOC is holding open a gate at a FEMA camp for him. Like, have a sense of urgency about your communist fears. Yeah. 00:57:33 Speaker 4: Oof. 00:57:35 Speaker 3: It's nonsense. 00:57:37 Speaker 4: I didn't know that Gavin was still around. I saw a clip of him online the other day. It was like, he looks old. 00:57:43 Speaker 3: That was later this evening. Okay. He's not on Alex's show, but apparently there were some clips of him pretty drunk going around from later on election night. Yeah. 00:57:52 Speaker 4: Is he still active in the militia? 00:57:57 Speaker 3: He's got a network called Censored.TV because it started around that time when everything was named that stuff. 00:58:04 Speaker 4: Uh-huh. 00:58:05 Speaker 3: And I think he has a show called Get Off My Lawn. 00:58:08 Speaker 4: Oh my God. Stop it. 00:58:12 Speaker 3: I've started to, you know, like, cause I'm branching out and I'm looking at a lot of other people's shows. And I have to say that Get Off My Lawn is at least like kind of a funny name. 00:58:24 Speaker 4: Yeah. 00:58:25 Speaker 3: Cause all of

these other people have like, Sean Hannity has a show called Hang Out with Sean Hannity. 00:58:30 Speaker 4: Just really? 00:58:30 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:58:30 Speaker 3: Tommy Loren has a show called Fearless. And it's like, these are, first draft names get off my lawn is at least like it appears self-deprecating yeah it appears like there's a joke yeah. 00:58:45 Speaker 4: It's so it's it's too uh silly for gavin mcginnis like it is for such a horrible monster like have such a cutesy. 00:58:59 Speaker 3: Little name yeah But I have to give it up to the name, not him, but I'll give it up to the name because and it's it's only a reflection of how low the bar is yeah like alex started the alex jones show right what come up with something you ding dong try so um they talk a bit and obviously it's uh you know, veiled jokes, maybe jokes, half jokes. But it all kind of revolves around the fact that they both are now at the point where they just want a dictator. 00:59:32 Speaker 10: And I think America is going to get a taste of what it's like when the DSA is in charge, and that is violence and hate. 00:59:40 Speaker 1: Yeah, arresting Bolsonaro, his sons, arresting Le Pen, arresting all of them. 00:59:48 Speaker 2: I'm sick of this, man. I want a Pinochet at this point. 00:59:53 Speaker 6: Yeah i agree with you yeah. 00:59:54 Speaker 3: We know yeah this isn't news. 00:59:57 Speaker 4: You've been trying to make one of. 00:59:59 Speaker 3: These yeah that's your whole thing yeah of course it reminds me of when uh stefan molyneux went to poland and he's like you know what it's pretty white here and i'm a white nationalist you're like we know people have been saying this for a long time like these people think like Oh my God, I'm saying something new. I want a Pinochet. No shit. 01:00:21 Speaker 1: Yeah. 01:00:21 Speaker 2: Come on. 01:00:22 Speaker 4: Your actions have made this clear over the last decade. 01:00:25 Speaker 3: It has nothing to do with an election or a midterm. 01:00:28 Speaker 2: No, you don't want elections. 01:00:29 Speaker 3: So there's one thing that I think is really delightful. And that is that you can tell that Alex does not really care about this interview either. Like we don't really care about Gavin McGinnis and Alex is emotionally checked out. 01:00:45 Speaker 1: I mean, what are the other little angles here? What else should we be looking at? Gab McGinnis, give us your predictions because you're too humble. I know you well as a personal friend. You're a smart son of a bitch. You sort of like 10 or 15 major trends. What is the future O'Great Oracle? 01:01:05 Speaker 2: We're winning. 01:01:06 Speaker 10: We're winning the next presidential election. We're cleaning up the country. Immigration and culture are all that matters. We just kicked a hornet's nest and we're going to be stung for the next two years, but it will not have serious consequences. I see the House as just kind of a feckless pain in the ass, to be honest. 01:01:24 Speaker 1: OK, but I'm asking you for the great Oracle pontification just in general. Where is culture? What is your message to the people? 01:01:35 Speaker 2: Buckle down, boys. There's a big storm a-comin'. 01:01:38 Speaker 3: He's just asking him, like, cookie-cutter questions of, like, what do you see? 01:01:44 Speaker 4: Buckle up, buttercup. 01:01:48 Speaker 3: You couldn't be more checked out than that line of questioning. 01:01:54 Speaker 4: It's just that he's, like, meme-able. That's all that matters. 01:01:58 Speaker 3: You started the Proud Boy trend? 01:02:00 Speaker 4: Yeah. 01:02:01 Speaker 3: You started the. 01:02:03 Speaker 3: What else? 01:02:04 Speaker 4: Even to think of that as a trend and not like an output. Like I created an army. 01:02:09 Speaker 5: Yeah. 01:02:10 Speaker 3: That's a gang. 01:02:10 Speaker 4: Yeah. 01:02:12 Speaker 3: Angry white gang. 01:02:14 Speaker 4: So you got a really good meme here. They got shirts and everything. Like, what are you talking about? 01:02:19 Speaker 3: But even if that, even if we do count that as like a trend or whatever, I don't know what the other ones are. Yeah. Cause like he, he was involved in vice, but like that didn't last. He, he, I guess, I think Anthony Cumia has a show on his network. I think, maybe. That's not starting something. He was too racist for radio. Oh boy. Yikes. So Alex, there's no way around this. This is a rough clip that Alex and Harrison are discussing. what needs to be done. 01:03:02 Speaker 1: I mean, how does America's look? It's not going well for us being coupled with Israel. So how do you see this thing with Israel or anything? 01:03:10 Speaker 6: A peaceful and amicable divorce. 01:03:13 Speaker 10: A quiet separation. 01:03:15 Speaker 2: We'll get the kids. 01:03:16 Speaker 10: We'll pay alimony for a little while. But we tried getting into bed with you. We thought it would make us a lot of money with the world's oil. We thought we could control the state of our moves. 01:03:26 Speaker 3: We were wrong. 01:03:27 Speaker 10: Wish you nothing but the best, Israel. 01:03:29 Speaker 4: But peace. 01:03:30 Speaker 1: We're out. No, I agree with you. And that's where this is, is a divorce. And it's not some Hitler outfit. I jack off to this. 01:03:38 Speaker 2: Exactly. You guys are crazy. We need a divorce right now. This is bullshit. 01:03:45 Speaker 1: And by the way, once we get rid of that, then on our own terms, we deport the Muslims. If they fuck with us, we blow them up. We don't do it for Israel. We fucking nuke them when we give the order, which I'm ready. If I was president, you know, better look out. 01:04:01 Speaker 3: All right. Yeah. So whenever anyone tries to suggest that there are folks in this dissident right-wing space who have the right idea about Israel, I wish they'd just understand what these guys really want. On a basic level, Alex and Gavin are upset that Israel hasn't been a good enough colonial partner. Gavin had

hoped that they would be effective in securing the region's resources, and Alex hoped that they'd kill all the Muslims, but it didn't work, and it's made Trump really hard to defend for them. But, like, their problems are not the same as yours might be if you have critiques of Israel. 01:04:35 Speaker 1: Oh, boy. 01:04:36 Speaker 3: Yeah. 01:04:37 Speaker 4: His main complaint just is, like, they don't have the juice to kill the Muslims like we want. We're going to do it on our own terms. 01:04:44 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. 01:04:45 Speaker 4: Yikes. 01:04:46 Speaker 1: Yikes. 01:04:47 Speaker 3: I think that there's something pretty horrifying and horrible about... Alex is like, no, no, no, no, no, no. We nuke them on our terms. 01:04:57 Speaker 4: Yeah. For you to be like, Harrison, stand back. Let a real pro show you what anti-Semitism is. 01:05:05 Speaker 3: Yeah. I think that Harrison still puts him to shame in that camp. 01:05:09 Speaker 4: Oh, for sure. 01:05:11 Speaker 3: Because I think Alex is, for all of his bluster and all of this, he's still too afraid to really own anything. Whatever names people might call him. Whereas I think Harrison's fine if you were just to call him an anti-Semite. You'd be like, yeah, whatever. I don't give a shit. 01:05:26 Speaker 4: I was prepared for him to say something like that. It usually is Alex cutting him off and redirecting him. Be like, not all juice. 01:05:34 Speaker 2: Not all. 01:05:35 Speaker 4: We're, you know, we're getting into dicey territory. But no, he's just full on. No, we just got to. 01:05:43 Speaker 1: Yikes. 01:05:44 Speaker 3: We got to have a complete divorce from Israel and then we'll kick out Muslims and blow them up. 01:05:49 Speaker 4: We'll kill Muslims by ourselves is what we're going to do. 01:05:53 Speaker 3: Good, Alex. So it's interesting that you say that, that usually there's like Alex cutting someone else off and trying to be like, because that does actually happen. 01:06:04 Speaker 4: Okay. 01:06:05 Speaker 3: Alex tries to rebut something Harrison said, but he can't remember what it is. 01:06:10 Speaker 4: Oh my God. 01:06:11 Speaker 1: So now I'm mad at you. but I'm going to bring something up. What is it you just said? 01:06:18 Speaker 2: Oh God, I forget what it was now. Good. 01:06:22 Speaker 7: I thought you were mad at me. 01:06:23 Speaker 2: Well, no, when you said it, my brain just blows up. I'll remember in a minute. You said something. I'll remember in a minute. 01:06:30 Speaker 3: Oh my God. 01:06:31 Speaker 2: Well, no, no, no, no. What was it you said? It was something you said. 01:06:37 Speaker 7: Well, I said, I said it was absolutely, it's absolutely real. 01:06:39 Speaker 8: And, uh, yeah, I mean, I, I, I joined right after Trump got inaugurated because I saw it as a beachhead and thought now is the time to fight. 01:06:47 Speaker 7: I remember you saying that to Roger Stone. 01:06:50 Speaker 2: How did you get hired? I don't even remember. 01:06:51 Speaker 7: I applied to a Craigslist ad. 01:06:53 Speaker 8: I got hired as an editor and a cameraman for an unnamed nationwide radio show on Craigslist. 01:07:01 Speaker 7: But I happen to know. I happen to know it was Infowars. 01:07:03 Speaker 2: Because— Because the Jews told you. 01:07:05 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. 01:07:06 Speaker 7: No, I had a friend that worked next door, so it was very— it was serendipitous. 01:07:09 Speaker 1: You said something to Gavin. You said, like, God— makes me so mad i can't remember something you said like no when the bomb of democrats it was uh god my problem you know well even though i was 20 i could remember stuff but i can't remember. 01:07:26 Speaker 3: I hate myself and here's why the second alex said that i knew exactly what he had forgotten like i can translate this stuff oh my god i feel it in my bones i knew what it. 01:07:37 Speaker 4: Was I want to be mad at the crew, but I can't remember why I'm mad at the crew. 01:07:43 Speaker 3: Oh, brain fog. He's had COVID a number of times. Could be a post-COVID symptom. 01:07:47 Speaker 4: I think there's a lot of things wrong with his brain. 01:07:49 Speaker 3: Yes, that is true. So Alex can't remember why he's upset with Harrison, but it was because of something that he said during the Gavin interview. Alex and Gavin were talking about how the enemy is the Muslims, and Harrison chimed in that if it weren't for the Jews, the Muslims wouldn't even be their enemy. This is a reflection of how Harrison has grown into his direct, overt anti-Semitic brand, whereas Alex is still trying to kind of have it both ways. That's what he wanted to argue about. 01:08:15 Speaker 4: Does he not have a problem with Muslims? 01:08:18 Speaker 3: No, he does. 01:08:19 Speaker 4: Okay. 01:08:19 Speaker 3: But Harrison hates the Jews more. 01:08:22 Speaker 4: He just has a bigger problem. 01:08:23 Speaker 3: Yeah. 01:08:23 Speaker 1: Okay. 01:08:24 Speaker 3: Yeah. So that's what Alex wanted to... I don't know how you're going to argue this. Like, I don't know what possible resolution you're going to hope to get to. 01:08:36 Speaker 4: Yeah, they're both bad. I don't... I'm all bigoted. 01:08:42 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, it's pretty bizarre. So Alex does end up remembering. And keep in mind your perfect description of Alex as a guy who steals an improv scene. Because that's what happens here. 01:08:58 Speaker 2: Oh, God. 01:08:58 Speaker 1: You said something... Islam is not our enemy if it wasn't for Israel. Yeah. 01:09:03 Speaker 8: Well, Islam is our enemy. And this, again, is the frustrating thing. I have so many. 01:09:07 Speaker 1: Hold on, because they started 1400 years ago. It invaded and took over all over Africa, Middle East. It took over Spain. I'm not mad at you, Harrison, because you're a big Christian. You're not a closet Muslim. But, I mean, my God, Islam is the longest-going demonic cult the planet's ever seen. 01:09:24 Speaker 2: Actually, I've known you 10 years.

I've never disagreed with you. 01:09:27 Speaker 3: Ever. 01:09:28 Speaker 2: You're not going to beat me up, are you? I want to attack you physically right now. 01:09:31 Speaker 3: No, no. 01:09:31 Speaker 2: No, I mean, actually, I kind of— You want to fight? 01:09:34 Speaker 1: You literally said that if it wasn't for Jews, we wouldn't have a problem with Muslims. 01:09:40 Speaker 2: The fucking Koran is a battle plan to take over. 01:09:43 Speaker 3: And I love you. 01:09:44 Speaker 2: And say what I'm wrong about. 01:09:45 Speaker 3: No, no. 01:09:46 Speaker 2: Say what I'm wrong about. 01:09:46 Speaker 4: Well, let me explain. 01:09:47 Speaker 3: You just literally said this. 01:09:49 Speaker 2: So maybe I misunderstood you. 01:09:52 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, no. 01:09:52 Speaker 2: Want to attack me right now? No, no, I don't. No, Islam, Islam always— I look like this guy. He punched me in the arm. I, like, barely hit him. 01:09:59 Speaker 3: He's like, I'll hit you back. 01:10:00 Speaker 1: He literally hit me from, like, two inches away, almost broke my arm. This Oompa Loompa, it's not a polling complex. 01:10:06 Speaker 2: I'm only, like, 5'11. 01:10:07 Speaker 1: This little 5'6 guy literally broke my arm from two inches away. 01:10:12 Speaker 2: So I'm going to ask Oompa Loompa here in a minute. But I'm going to tell you, you're bigger than I am. 01:10:16 Speaker 4: You're, like, 6'3. 01:10:16 Speaker 2: I'm going to— You want to fight right now? I don't want to fight. 01:10:20 Speaker 1: You just said that fucking Islam is the blame of Jews. 01:10:24 Speaker 2: I will not put that on the Jews. Islam is the fucking turd out of Satan's ass. I will not hear that. 01:10:31 Speaker 7: Well, I do think Islam. 01:10:32 Speaker 2: Is a branch of Judaism. I apologize. 01:10:34 Speaker 3: What did you say? 01:10:35 Speaker 7: We're adults here. 01:10:36 Speaker 2: No, no. 01:10:37 Speaker 1: We're adults. 01:10:37 Speaker 5: Kiss. Kiss. 01:10:46 Speaker 3: It's so strange how Alex remembers the bone he wanted to pick with Harrison and then immediately launches this riff about them fighting. It's almost like he doesn't want to get into the nuance about this difference of opinion and would rather do this cartoon shtick. 01:10:58 Speaker 4: Is he slapping him? What's that noise? 01:11:03 Speaker 3: I didn't watch all of this, so I can't report on some of the physicality. But a lot of the noises that you hear that might be like kind of extraneous noises are Alex's teeth. 01:11:15 Speaker 7: Oh. 01:11:15 Speaker 3: There's a lot of teeth squeaking. 01:11:17 Speaker 4: Oh, weird. 01:11:17 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he has some jaw issues. It's a little distracting. I wouldn't be surprised if he's hitting him. 01:11:25 Speaker 4: It sounds like he's slapping him. 01:11:27 Speaker 3: So the difference that they have that they should be debating is actually an important difference. Because if Alex took this at all seriously and interrogated Harrison's beliefs, he would have to accept that his most senior on-air talent is an out-and-out anti-Semite. He has a fundamental split here from what Alex is supposed to stand for. So he should probably fire Harrison instead of doing this stupid bit. Like, he's supposed to think the people who believe what Harrison believes are stupid and are a detriment to the Patriots' message. But he's pretending not. He's pretending not to get it by doing this stupid fight. 01:12:06 Speaker 4: Yeah, and he's like, he has to have Harrison because it's like his. 01:12:11 Speaker 4: Bobo Nick Fuentes, like it's, he, I don't know, needs a weird little Milhouse Nazi. 01:12:18 Speaker 3: And Chase moved on. Yeah. 01:12:21 Speaker 4: And I guess this is the best you can get off of a creepy blind Craigslist ad. Yeah. 01:12:28 Speaker 3: I mean, on one level, like as an old school Infowars guy, like I've watched so much of this stuff, I'm excited that he didn't win a contest because that's how so many of these other people ended up working there. They accidentally won a contest. 01:12:42 Speaker 4: I feel like winning a contest at Info Wars to be like an info warrior. When cops do those like sting things where like win sting tickets and then you can all come to this big party and it's just like a big setup so you can go to jail. The prize is bad. 01:13:01 Speaker 3: I think of it more like a Willy Wonka-ish kind of thing. Like they all won golden tickets. Alex shows up with a cane and then does a little pratfall. 01:13:10 Speaker 4: I'd watch that movie. 01:13:12 Speaker 3: Come with me and you'll see. 01:13:17 Speaker 4: World of imagination. 01:13:20 Speaker 3: Shot for shot remake. Here's the problem. AI exists now. So you could just make Willy Wonka with Alex in it. And it wouldn't be fun. 01:13:29 Speaker 4: No, I want to see it done with puppets. 01:13:31 Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure. So Alex is mentioning the Oompa Loompa. Back to Willy Wonka. 01:13:39 Speaker 4: Right, yeah. 01:13:39 Speaker 3: The short guy. And it turns out that's his next guest, who he hasn't introduced yet, who he does hear. 01:13:46 Speaker 1: All right, Ivan Raiklin, Green Beret Colonel, Defense Intelligence Agency. And all that was important work. But his work the last five years is a wrecking ball, or six years. This guy is a force of nature, going after the CIA, poison injections, suing them. 01:14:05 Speaker 3: So one of the things that's not in that bio is Secretary of Retribution, which was Ivan Raiklin's position. 01:14:13 Speaker 4: Okay. 01:14:13 Speaker 3: I mean, it was never real, but he declared himself Trump's Secretary of Retribution. 01:14:20 Speaker 4: That would be a good name for the department I want to start in the White House. 01:14:24 Speaker 3: Well, I think your scolding is probably more effective than his. 01:14:28 Speaker 4: His retribution? 01:14:29 Speaker 3: Yeah, because his whole thing was he was going on all these shows. And he was like, hey, globalists, I'm offering

you amnesty. You got 60 days to come snitch to me. And if you don't, you're going to get arrested. There's a list. I've got a list, all you globalists. I am the secretary of retribution. And then nothing happened. And now I guess they're just pretending that didn't happen. 01:14:51 Speaker 2: Okay. 01:14:52 Speaker 4: Was he ever a real military person? 01:14:55 Speaker 3: I think all of this is quite embellished, but maybe he was in the service of some sort. 01:14:59 Speaker 4: Okay. 01:15:00 Speaker 3: I know that he was friends with Mike Flynn's son. And I think also, by extension, Mike Flynn. Okay. But yeah, I don't know what. 01:15:09 Speaker 4: I had to remember for a minute who Mike Flynn was because I'm like, the guy who made Carrie? I'm like, that is Mike Flynn again. That is different. 01:15:16 Speaker 3: Nope. I don't know. I think... Here's my position with all of these guys. It's their business if they're stealing valor. 01:15:24 Speaker 5: Sure. 01:15:25 Speaker 3: And I'm not going to get to the bottom of it and sniff it out or whatever. I will believe that they were in some branch of the army. 01:15:32 Speaker 1: Sure. 01:15:34 Speaker 3: I think a lot of them are probably lying, but like I said, that's their business. They have to deal with that. Okay. I know they're all lying about the extent that they would have been in any of these places. So all of, yeah, he's embellishing for sure, but maybe he made it through basic. 01:15:51 Speaker 2: Okay. 01:15:53 Speaker 3: So there's, there's an inevitable point of the night that's got to hit. And that is like, Texas goes blue. 01:15:59 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, like they couldn't possibly have thought, well, I guess Harrison was saying it might happen, but I can't imagine they believe that was going to happen. 01:16:09 Speaker 3: I do think you're correct that maybe it wasn't the most impossible thing, but they're very, they're still quite surprised. 01:16:17 Speaker 4: I was surprised. 01:16:18 Speaker 3: And Alex takes the news not happily. 01:16:21 Speaker 1: Breaking, Nick Sorter, who's a great source. James Tallarico wins U.S. Senate race in Texas, defeating Republicans, Ken Paxton. Guys, copy that post. Put it out with a clip of this. I mean, this is a nightmare situation. 01:16:36 Speaker 2: Go ahead. 01:16:36 Speaker 8: Trump won Texas by 14 points in 2024. That shows you the utter collapse over the last two years. Two years ago, they won Texas by 14 points. 01:16:47 Speaker 2: So put that out. 01:16:47 Speaker 1: Tallarico wins Texas because of Trump's blowjobbing Israel. 01:16:55 Speaker 7: Pretty much. 01:16:56 Speaker 1: I mean, on Epstein and the war, I mean, it's just like, okay. 01:17:03 Speaker 7: He got blown out. 01:17:04 Speaker 2: I mean, look at this. 01:17:05 Speaker 8: James Tallarico got nearly 3.5 million votes versus 2.3 to Ken Paxton. 01:17:10 Speaker 7: So it wasn't even close. 01:17:12 Speaker 3: So it's done. 01:17:13 Speaker 1: So the point is people are done. So the good news is Democrats are going to try to cut your son's dick off. So what happens in two years? 01:17:22 Speaker 3: Okay, this is some analysis. This is top rate stuff that Alex has given us. 01:17:26 Speaker 4: It's a little gross. 01:17:29 Speaker 3: So I was thinking, they like to call him James Talafrico. 01:17:33 Speaker 4: They do. I'm surprised he didn't say it. 01:17:35 Speaker 3: They do at other points. 01:17:36 Speaker 4: Sure. 01:17:38 Speaker 3: Here's my question. Do you think that James Talafrico, the human, ever referred to himself as James Talafrico, like at parties? 01:17:46 Speaker 4: I think it's super fun. I don't think he's that fun. 01:17:49 Speaker 3: But I still... I feel like everybody who has pun possibilities in their name or play on names, I feel like they do it. I feel like even if they're not that fun, I still think they do it at some point. Yeah. 01:18:03 Speaker 4: Like, it's a fun nickname, and I don't think anybody's that bothered by it. What was the one that I heard the other day? 01:18:10 Speaker 3: It was.... 01:18:14 Speaker 4: Ramaswarmy? Smarmy. 01:18:16 Speaker 3: Ramasmarmy? 01:18:17 Speaker 5: Yeah. 01:18:17 Speaker 3: That's no good. 01:18:18 Speaker 5: No. 01:18:19 Speaker 4: I don't know, it kind of made me laugh. 01:18:21 Speaker 3: It's good on paper, but it's tough out of your mouth. 01:18:24 Speaker 4: It's tough to say. 01:18:26 Speaker 3: The batting average on getting that out clean, I think is going to be low. 01:18:30 Speaker 4: I think if you had it like real practiced in the canon, it's pretty fun. 01:18:34 Speaker 5: Yeah. 01:18:35 Speaker 3: I still think Ron DeSanctimonious is top tier because it's really bad. 01:18:40 Speaker 1: Yeah. 01:18:41 Speaker 4: It's so labored. It's fun to say. 01:18:45 Speaker 3: James Telefrico. He has won in Texas And this is quite bad news. Greg Abbott also lost. And so this is where I think Alex and Harrison descend into despair. and things get a little racist pretty fast. Oh, boy. 01:19:04 Speaker 8: We're so far away from that. Really, our goal is to just stop white people from hating themselves. It's like, you know, be nice to the other problem. 01:19:11 Speaker 2: Because that's the other problem politically. 01:19:12 Speaker 8: Well, yeah, and it's a demographic problem that we're experiencing. I mean, I'm surprised by the, like, a million difference. I was expecting it to be a little closer, but, again, in four years, Texas has welcomed half a million new permanent residents, new voters, half a million of them. 01:19:30 Speaker 1: I get Overton windows and I've never, I've never tried to go the extreme, but this is so bad. 01:19:35 Speaker 2: We have to go the extreme. So I'm like, welcome it then. 01:19:37 Speaker 1: There's just, so I think this is actually going to conjure the defeat of all this. 01:19:43 Speaker 2: I hope so. 01:19:44 Speaker 8: I mean, to me, it's not about going to either extreme. It's about our enemies are

attacking us on the basis of our race, so you have to defend on the basis of the race. 01:19:53 Speaker 2: Exactly. 01:19:53 Speaker 1: We're not— the head of them attack us on race. 01:19:55 Speaker 2: They say, don't be racial. Then they attack you on race. 01:19:58 Speaker 4: Right. 01:19:58 Speaker 1: It is very healthy to say, your mind control doesn't work. Fine, I'm racially based. 01:20:03 Speaker 3: These dudes are pathetic. They want so badly to just be white supremacists, but they also know that white supremacists are stupid, so they have to walk backwards into their white supremacy and pretend someone forced them to believe those things. I don't respect any racist, but there's something particularly cowardly about these types who hide behind civility and demand people take their bigotry seriously as something more than just emotional immaturity. Fuck them and this milquetoast bullshit, and, Adrian, I would say the same thing if I was in the Klan. I would say you guys are cowards. 01:20:37 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it is. It's such a preposterous thing to stand and be like, I'm a victim of your racism against me as a white person. 01:20:49 Speaker 3: And therefore. 01:20:51 Speaker 4: And then look around at the world and look at who's in positions of power, who's head of all of our companies, who's head of our government, and be like, yeah, we're real persecuted. 01:21:03 Speaker 1: Yeah. 01:21:04 Speaker 3: It's very strange, but then again, you have to consider that there's interracial couples in commercials. And that is trying to destroy the white family. You understand? The idea of miscegenation. 01:21:21 Speaker 1: Yes. 01:21:21 Speaker 3: And the tolerance that society has towards people who are different races marrying. 01:21:28 Speaker 4: Yeah. If I can see those queerdos running around It's infringing on my right as a straight person. 01:21:37 Speaker 2: You're oppressed. 01:21:38 Speaker 1: Yes. 01:21:39 Speaker 3: I think that their concerns are so invalid. But that's such a big part of why it's so funny that they're pretending that their racism is motivated by this oppression and not the other way around. They're finding this oppression to complain about, like interracial couples in commercials, because they're racists. They're pretending that A leads to B, but B led to A. 01:22:04 Speaker 4: Well, and I think if you listen to like Tucker or Fuentes, they just say like Western culture is better. It's the thing that has given you all of the, like, because our country does not deem it prudent to educate anybody on anybody who's not white from our, they have this like, confirmation that non-white people have never invented anything. It doesn't exist because I didn't learn about them. So it's all white people moving things forward. Just that erasure is just like, yeah, we're the best ones. So like, let's keep it rolling. 01:22:43 Speaker 3: And any attempt to tell me anything that is disconfirming of that or that adds more context to history is you trying to attack white people. 01:22:51 Speaker 1: Yeah. 01:22:52 Speaker 3: So we can't trust that. 01:22:53 Speaker 2: Yeah. 01:22:54 Speaker 1: Yeah. 01:22:54 Speaker 3: And for Fuentes, he's definitely someone who's like, I don't give a shit. I'm a racist. He doesn't care about the taboo for himself that comes from that phrase where I still think Alex and maybe even Harrison are a little bit like, I don't want to be called that. I want to be it, but I don't want to be called it. 01:23:16 Speaker 4: They definitely believe that, but the only avenue they can take that to use it as armors to say that they're victimized by it. If all things being equal, you're now oppressing me. But if you're just like a white supremacist, you don't have to do that. They were like, we're in power because we're the better ones. We're better at it. We're better at getting at that position. It's confirmation of what I believe. I don't have to be a victim fighting for, for anything. 01:23:47 Speaker 5: Yeah. 01:23:48 Speaker 4: I'm the peak, you should give me the stuff. 01:23:53 Speaker 3: They want the stuff. 01:23:54 Speaker 4: They want the stuff. 01:23:55 Speaker 3: So Harrison is particularly upset about Indians because they have shifted from fear mongering around like people coming over the border So a lot of those fears were based on Central and South American people. And now it's H-1B visas and legal immigration. So the sort of image that is painted about this, especially in Texas, is around Indian people. And Harrison hates them. And Alex is easily distracted. 01:24:32 Speaker 7: Gina Hinojosa. 01:24:33 Speaker 2: I guess Greg Abbott. 01:24:34 Speaker 5: Oh, God. 01:24:34 Speaker 7: We're going to have to hear that name over and over and over. 01:24:36 Speaker 2: Oh, my God. She's almost a million. She's 800,000 votes ahead of Greg Abbott. 01:24:41 Speaker 8: Because we've been swamped with Indians. Who brought them over? Greg Abbott. That's what I don't understand. It's like these people are doing things that are literally leading to their own dispossession. 01:24:50 Speaker 2: Yeah, they bring in people that will vote Democrat. 01:24:54 Speaker 8: It is genuinely insane. Again, 500,000 people in just the last four years. That's not including Democrats. 01:24:58 Speaker 1: And Abbott thought he had them on his side. 01:25:01 Speaker 6: He didn't know. 01:25:02 Speaker 7: Why would you think that? 01:25:04 Speaker 1: I guess you didn't know. What's that Crystal Method song? 01:25:10 Speaker 2: The name of the game? 01:25:11 Speaker 7: I'm not sure. 01:25:12 Speaker 2: Maybe we should go out to break with that. 01:25:13 Speaker 3: So this is where you start to feel like this guy's a little sauced. He's a little buzzy. 01:25:20 Speaker 4: He just wants to play his music. 01:25:23 Speaker 3: I'll put on the crystal method and talk about how great white people are. 01:25:26 Speaker 4: Yeah, I want some pump up jams to cover up my

feelings. 01:25:29 Speaker 2: I guess I did. 01:25:30 Speaker 5: Nope. 01:25:32 Speaker 3: Harrison just like, oh, Greg Abbott brought in all these Indian people. I guess I did. Nope. Your description is perfect. Like this person who's ruining improv scenes. 01:25:42 Speaker 4: Yeah, every time. It's just a bull in a china shop. And you're just like, I was building towards something, but I guess this is fine. 01:25:50 Speaker 3: I guess we've got to find the lyrics to this song before we could do anything else. So Alex obviously is expressing ideas and positions that are quite white supremacist, but he likes to couch them in Christianity. Christianity. And we see him doing that here in this next clip. 01:26:13 Speaker 8: What did you think was going to happen? What did you think was going to happen when you brought in. 01:26:16 Speaker 2: Billions of Indians? Because everybody else is tribal. Everyone else is racial. And the power of Christianity is that it unifies under God, but you have to actually do that. 01:26:28 Speaker 1: People pretend to do it, but no, no one else is as open as white people. 01:26:32 Speaker 2: Or the West. 01:26:33 Speaker 1: And that is our power and our weakness. And you sit there and these people have existential envy. Not all people aren't white, but a bunch of them do. And you've got to recognize that and stop being an idiot. 01:26:45 Speaker 3: So that's a pretty intensely racist shit. But I guess it shouldn't really be a surprise. 01:26:49 Speaker 6: Yeah. 01:26:50 Speaker 4: I feel like there's an uptick in the usage of the word racial. I don't know why, but I keep hearing it as like Rachel. So it's just sort of. 01:27:02 Speaker 4: I don't know why, and it's rewiring my brain, but it's making me notice that I'm hearing people say racial more often instead of racist or a race issue. I'm hearing that form of the word take off a little bit more. I don't know that that means anything. It's just been hitting my ear lately. 01:27:20 Speaker 3: Well, you know, in the 90s, people had an existential envy of Rachel and her haircut on Friends. 01:27:27 Speaker 4: That's true. Also, RuPaul famously played Rachel Tensions in To Wong Fu wearing a Confederate flag dress. 01:27:37 Speaker 3: Right. Rachel Tensions. Not bad. 01:27:41 Speaker 4: It's a good drag name. 01:27:42 Speaker 3: Not bad, Ru. 01:27:44 Speaker 4: It's the last really great thing that RuPaul's done. 01:27:48 Speaker 3: So Alex brings up an interesting point in that clip about how a lot of people pretend to unite under Christianity. And it's hard for me not to think of the history of colonialism there. Like a whole lot of populations were enslaved and had their resources stolen by people who showed up with missionaries. And I think Alex likes that. I think he understands this dynamic of pretending to unite under God when it's actually kind of a white supremacist project and usually colonialist exploitation. And I just don't believe that he doesn't understand that. 01:28:19 Speaker 4: Well, all your stuff belongs to me under God. 01:28:22 Speaker 2: Right. 01:28:23 Speaker 3: And you can't fight back because... by going along with it, you're part of the body of God now. 01:28:29 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's manifest destiny that I get to take your PlayStation. 01:28:33 Speaker 3: I think he gets that. I think he understands that. And the fact that he can say, you know, a lot of people pretend to... unify under God, like the fact that he's aware of that makes, it just makes me think he knows, he knows the insidiousness. 01:28:49 Speaker 8: Yeah. 01:28:50 Speaker 4: I was listening to the episode you and Molly were talking about that preacher and he's, he's talking about like how if you could see the gay people, um, that there's like a problem. And I was like, oh, what he's trying to say is like gay people are rats. And if you can see one, you're already infested. Like if they're in the walls, that's where they should be. But you can't say that without sounding overtly like a Nazi. 01:29:16 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. These populations, when they're visible, that means you're, you're overrun. 01:29:20 Speaker 2: Yeah. 01:29:21 Speaker 4: Yep. 01:29:23 Speaker 3: He's going to show up here in a little bit. 01:29:24 Speaker 4: Oh my God. He's gross. He's the grossest person I've heard you cover in a while. 01:29:29 Speaker 3: Yeah, he sucks. I think he's in the top two grossest on this episode. 01:29:34 Speaker 5: Interesting. 01:29:34 Speaker 3: So that should worry you. 01:29:36 Speaker 4: I hadn't even considered. 01:29:40 Speaker 3: Oh, God. So Alex, as the night goes on, and as the drinks get in him, he starts to come up with a new theory, and that is that Trump lost on purpose. He threw the whole thing. 01:29:53 Speaker 1: Orange Crush, Dems win House and Senate. Results now, Senate 4738. Trump did everything he could. He's not retarded. On purpose, saying, I don't care about Medicare, Medicaid. I don't care about economic peril. You're an idiot if you believe Epstein exists. 01:30:08 Speaker 2: This is on purpose. 01:30:09 Speaker 1: I think this is a deal that Trump made. Four months in, he got all the dirt with Elon. Elon was involved to then try to control them. What a foolish thing Trump did. What a squandering of his birthright. 01:30:23 Speaker 5: Yeah. 01:30:23 Speaker 7: Of our last opportunity. May have very well been our last opportunity. 01:30:26 Speaker 3: Okay, that's dumb. I mean, I don't know what you're basing this on. You did this on purpose? 01:30:32 Speaker 2: What? 01:30:33 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't understand the accountability chain there. 01:30:38 Speaker 3: No, and I would argue, if you believe that, you should be so much madder. 01:30:43 Speaker 4: Yeah, if you think that Donald Trump got Elon Musk to go and steal dollars data. 01:30:49 Speaker 3: To blackmail people. 01:30:51 Speaker 4: Yeah. 01:30:51 Speaker 3: And that it didn't work. 01:30:52 Speaker 4: That it backfired

because it was, like, too powerful of a weapon that you put in the hands of, like, the wrong guy. Yeah. This is all bad. 01:31:00 Speaker 3: No, I sincerely think if you, like, did J6, you know, all that was cool, like, you should be doing something. If you think that Trump did these things, get off the fucking radio, man. 01:31:14 Speaker 5: Yeah. 01:31:14 Speaker 3: Get an air gun. 01:31:15 Speaker 1: Yeah. 01:31:17 Speaker 4: Go a-hunting. 01:31:18 Speaker 3: Yes, shoot Harrison at least. They should be, like, they're so chill for, if they believe that. Yeah. And that's why, that's one of the reasons I don't believe that they believe that. 01:31:30 Speaker 4: Yeah, no, it can't be. Also, I don't really understand their delineation of what's evil. 01:31:37 Speaker 3: No, no, it's pretty situational. So Alex has another Gaston here. And this is my favorite kind of thing. I just love this shit. 01:31:48 Speaker 1: But America's in a coma. It can come out of it. But who knows what'll happen. Let's go to Richard Barris, one of the top pollsters in the country, one of the most accurate out there, the honest pollster. 01:32:01 Speaker 3: I think it's so funny when someone calls themselves something like honest pollster. LAUGHTER It makes me so suspicious in a way that I wouldn't if your name was just Polster. You're kind of. 01:32:19 Speaker 4: Guilting the lily a little. 01:32:21 Speaker 3: You're supposed to be honest. Putting that in your name is sketchy. 01:32:27 Speaker 1: Yeah. 01:32:28 Speaker 4: I got questions. 01:32:29 Speaker 3: And also this guy has like a banner behind him that says honest Polster, but it looks kind of like a used car dealership level sign. It's just. It's bad news. It's a tough vibe. 01:32:41 Speaker 4: Yeah. It's like I was watching the Onion Infowars, or the Nerve Center, one of their shows, and they had a guy who was a citizen scientist. I was like, that is the perfect name for these weirdos. 01:32:55 Speaker 3: Citizen chemist. I make my own vaccines. 01:32:59 Speaker 5: Yeah. 01:33:01 Speaker 3: So one of the guys who Alex is clearly getting paid for airtime by is, again, the last year he's been on a bunch, there's this guy named Mark Mitchell. He used to work at Rasmussen, but he launched his own polling organization called The Honest Poll. This guest that Alex is introducing is one of the guys who works for Mitchell. The Honest Poll website is truly a thing to behold. Right on the homepage, it hits you with their mission statement. Quote, people are biased. Polls shouldn't be. It's to the point. and it's hard to argue with. If you click the header link marked Speaking, you're taken to a page where you can book Mark to come speak at your gathering. The featured image on that page is a poster for Mark, where he was booked to speak at America First Fest 2025, which was a turning point event that, in hindsight, probably shouldn't have booked Russell Brand to speak. It feels like Mark bragging about being on that bill

is a clear indication of bias. That website, which is called Honest Polls, is very transparent about being a Trump media apparatus, which makes it all the funnier and more Orwellian. Mark literally says, quote, I called the cracks in this coalition before anyone else was willing to say it out loud. Now I help campaigns, causes, and media understand where the movement actually stands and how to rebuild it. He is an activist. 01:34:20 Speaker 4: This sounds, it's a good grift. For as long as, like, Trump has been talking about fake polls... I am shocked that nobody else is like, I'll make your polls, sir. 01:34:30 Speaker 3: I'll make your polls honest. 01:34:33 Speaker 4: Yeah, like, oh, yeah, I can get you some real poll numbers. 01:34:38 Speaker 3: It's another thing that is like, this show's for babies. It's like, yeah, babies would want honest polls and not get suspicious based on that name. You're marketing to babies. 01:34:48 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a little... It's like when you find out it's on STM. It's a trademark. It's not like a word. It doesn't mean what you think it means. 01:34:58 Speaker 3: Patriot Act. Alex knows this shit. Yeah. He's talked about it at length. 01:35:03 Speaker 4: Branding. 01:35:04 Speaker 3: So Alex has decided that shit's bad. And it's actually so bad that maybe Trump's a fucking Democrat. I don't know. 01:35:12 Speaker 1: So I think it's on purpose. I think he's a Democrat. I'm going to say it right now. I have tried to salvage Trump. I've not been sure. I invested so much. Maybe I was blind to it. I think he's the ultimate Democrat sleeper cell and he works for them. And he was a Democrat before. I'm going to say it right now. I'm 100 percent at war with Trump. I've already been pissed at him, but I don't ever say something. He's not that retarded. He did this on purpose. 01:35:39 Speaker 2: Who cares? 01:35:40 Speaker 3: Like I hear him say, like, I'm 100 percent at war. Who cares? Trump doesn't care. No one cares. 01:35:45 Speaker 4: No, that's true. Just say he's a Democrat operative. That's a real claim. 01:35:54 Speaker 3: What does that mean about you? 01:35:55 Speaker 4: Yeah, you fell for this. 01:35:57 Speaker 3: Like, if Trump is a Democrat operative, his campaign manager was Roger Stone. He was your best friend for years. You hired him at your company. You're a fucking Democrat operative asshole. 01:36:08 Speaker 4: Yeah, you've been letting him poke everybody with the tip of your media spear for a long time. 01:36:14 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. Get right with God, Alex. You're the Democrat. 01:36:20 Speaker 4: Yeah. 01:36:22 Speaker 3: You idiot. So on a night like this, it's inevitable. The booze is flowing. He's going to have to cry at some point. And so we reach that point. Where Alex breaks down in very real and honest tears. 01:36:39 Speaker 5: Oh, boy. 01:36:40 Speaker 8: They are going to go after Trump. They're going to go after his family. They're going to go after his businesses. They're going

to go after his allies. So that's the thing, is that in 2024, we weren't just listening to Trump and believing him because we're suckers and we just fell for his lies. 01:36:53 Speaker 2: Well, we got persecuted, so we defended him more. 01:36:56 Speaker 7: Of course. 01:36:56 Speaker 2: Because we weren't sellouts. See, that's the sick, satanic trick. 01:37:00 Speaker 3: Yeah. 01:37:00 Speaker 2: I mean, folks, my parents were not involved in my company. 01:37:04 Speaker 1: And my dad had a heart attack like 14 years ago, managing over 100 dental offices. He'd already done several companies before. And I said, Dad, I'm going to hire you. And he's got Parkinson's now, and he lives with me, and he's a sweetheart. And they sued my parents the last five years. And they have literally no money. I'm complaining. Barely money to buy food, double mortgage on their house, and they weren't even political. And I did all this for Trump. And then he just fuck. It's like it's like I am. I just and then like the Democrats are going to go ape shit now. 01:37:40 Speaker 2: And like they all think it's funny. It's a funny man. 01:37:43 Speaker 3: So the big problem with this act is that Alex and Harrison have already made it clear that they believe Trump is a criminal now and he's engaged in a ton of insider trading. And as a part of this breakdown, Alex has been apologizing for supporting Trump. He's saying he was fooled and maybe Trump was a Democrat. They need to take the next step down this very obvious path and recognize that when Democrats in Congress go after Trump and his businesses, they're doing that because he committed crimes, which is the same thing that happened before. The last time, Alex and Harrison thought it was in their best interest to defend Trump, despite his obvious criminality, and now they clearly recognize there's nothing in it for them to do that. It sucks that Alex's dad got mixed up in Alex's shit, but that's Alex's fault. Trump wasn't being persecuted, and Alex was... noble for sticking with him. Trump was a criminal, and Alex was part of the media apparatus he used to avoid consequences. Alex chose to participate in that, and whatever negative results that choice has brought on his family, it's entirely his fault. 01:38:45 Speaker 4: But he was lying, and then the Democrats took his daddy's house, and he didn't even do anything with Infowars because he was only their HR director. 01:38:55 Speaker 3: Dr. Jones Naturals, not involved at all. 01:38:58 Speaker 4: And he was making supplements for me, and he had 100 dentist offices, I guess, and now nothing. 01:39:06 Speaker 3: This show's for fucking babies. It's ridiculous. And I remember in the good old days, Alex used to remind people that it's big boy pants time. 01:39:17 Speaker 5: Yeah. 01:39:18 Speaker 3: And I would like to return the favor and tell him big boy pants time. Yeah. Come on. This is, this is no good. 01:39:26 Speaker 4: What a baby. What a lying baby. 01:39:29 Speaker 3: There's a certain point where you've got to stop offshoring your accountability and responsibility. And I think Alex is well past that. 01:39:38 Speaker 4: They're not political. 01:39:40 Speaker 3: Not political. His dad was giving speeches for the John Birch society in college and raised a shithead son, an extreme right-wing ideology. Not political at all, though. 01:39:50 Speaker 4: If he had a hundred dentist offices, do you think he's like CIA planting radios in people's cavities? 01:39:57 Speaker 3: That's what Alex said. 01:39:58 Speaker 4: He could have an army. 01:39:59 Speaker 3: He said he's a CIA dentist. 01:40:00 Speaker 4: Yeah. 01:40:02 Speaker 3: I don't think. 01:40:02 Speaker 4: He could be putting mind control in people's fillings. 01:40:05 Speaker 3: I believe that his dad was a CIA dentist in the same way that I believe that Ivan Raiklin was the Secretary of Retribution. 01:40:12 Speaker 4: I think he should flip on his dental army. 01:40:17 Speaker 3: I feel like Tuesday would have been the time. If that power was there, he should have done it. 01:40:23 Speaker 4: Well, he's under the weather. 01:40:25 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true. He's hungry. So Alex, he did all of it for Trump. He gave up so much and he loved the man. But he wasn't in it for glory. No. He turned down, if you believe what you're about to hear, possibly... Three awards from the White House. 01:40:44 Speaker 1: I mean, I got invited two years ago when he got elected. Six months ago, a month ago. Come to Mar-a-Lago. 01:40:52 Speaker 2: We want to give you an award. As if I want to sit there and have Trump come out and say, an award. 01:40:58 Speaker 1: But most people want that perch like it's some– I'm not a perfect person, folks, but I am not like trying to get a position in Babylon. 01:41:10 Speaker 2: I am here in Texas. I go home at night. I go to sleep. I don't like power. I like freedom. And I am very proud. 01:41:21 Speaker 1: Of what I've done in 32 years on air, but I have to tell you right now tonight I'm going to do some major soul-searching because– We knew this was coming. We knew this was happening. But I already knew it. I already said it's Trump doing it on purpose. But now I know. He thinks it's funny. 01:41:38 Speaker 3: He thinks it's funny. 01:41:39 Speaker 4: Trump thinks it's funny. 01:41:45 Speaker 3: That's sad. That's sadder than his fake tears. 01:41:48 Speaker 4: Yeah. I do believe that he means it when he's like, I don't want a seat in Babylon. Like, I don't think he wants to move his lazy ass from where he's at. I think he just wants Infowars and to do that forever. 01:42:00 Speaker 3: He showed up on Russian television to get like basically an award from those people who were like, oh, you won the election. You're the greatest American man. He was crying and being so proud. He would love if he could zoom in. 01:42:14 Speaker 2: Oh, he wants an award. 01:42:15 Speaker 3: To Mar-a-Lago. 01:42:15 Speaker 4: Yeah, he

wants an award. But it's like when they gave Bovino, like, a real job. And, like, Cash Patel, like, they just wanted to be podcasters. They're like, oh, my God, this job is, like, work. You've got to come to your desk every day. 01:42:27 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think Alex wants that. 01:42:29 Speaker 4: No, I don't think he wants that at all. I think he's a little bit smarter than those guys who are, like, got in their seats of power. Like, oh, God, I am not qualified for this. 01:42:39 Speaker 3: This sucks. There's hard choices. 01:42:41 Speaker 4: This is not what I wanted. I wanted to lord things over to people and go to parties. 01:42:47 Speaker 3: But here's the question that clip raised for me. How embarrassing does it have to be for Harrison, sitting across the table from this drunk idiot, knowing that he's just rambling bullshit about imaginary awards from the White House that he's turned down? Like, that's gotta suck. You've got a yes and that? 01:43:05 Speaker 4: Oh my god, he's probably just worried they're gonna shoot him again. As long as they're not looking at him, he's safe. 01:43:12 Speaker 3: So the idea that Alex is trying to float here with the Trump stuff is a tough sell. We're supposed to believe that Trump was a really cool guy in 2016, and it was great that Alex believed in him. And then he totally got the election stolen in 2020. You know, the globalist stole it. And Alex proved that because multiple times Alex was stolen. But now after he won in 2024, he decided to lose the midterms on purpose. What is anyone's motivation here? If Trump was bad all along, then you really need to reassess some of that election theft stuff, right? I mean, like, that all is kind of ridiculous. 01:43:49 Speaker 4: No, but that's the thing that I tend to discount. Infowars has never had memory. 01:43:56 Speaker 5: No. 01:43:57 Speaker 4: It is always in the moment and will be whatever it needs to be in that exact moment. So any claims that they make is not based on any past knowledge or future outcomes. It is just. 01:44:12 Speaker 3: Almost as if the guy who's the host of it had a head injury. And had no ability to form permanence in his memories. 01:44:22 Speaker 4: I see this a lot, and I feel like this is probably one of the core problems with a lot of conspiracy thinking and what's going on with the internet right now. People mistake things they thought of that are possible with things that have happened. 01:44:41 Speaker 3: Yes. 01:44:42 Speaker 4: And if I think that that is a good, and if it's like a good narrative, like that is a good storytelling, that is a good like what happens next. This is so QAnon. Like that's what has happened. 01:44:52 Speaker 3: Yeah. 01:44:53 Speaker 4: Instead of having any reason to believe that that thing is, there's no evidence. 01:44:57 Speaker 3: That it happened. Yeah, that's behind so much of it. It's like you and I would agree that it's possible that the 2020 election could have been stolen. 01:45:05 Speaker 5: Yeah. 01:45:06 Speaker 3: But the possibility doesn't prove that it was. 01:45:09 Speaker 1: Yeah. 01:45:09 Speaker 3: And I think folks make that leap unknowingly turning possibility into confirmation. And it's unfortunate. 01:45:19 Speaker 4: I've seen that happen in real time where somebody will be arguing for or against and they will put out a possibility of something that could make their point of view right. And then that is what has happened. 01:45:33 Speaker 1: Yeah. 01:45:34 Speaker 4: And I'm like, that's not the same thing. I don't believe that, that like the election was stolen because I don't have any reason to believe that's true. I have a lot of evidence to believe that it's not true. 01:45:45 Speaker 3: Sure. 01:45:45 Speaker 4: But just because like, if it's your narrative of what you would like the outcome to be, it doesn't mean that it's real. 01:45:53 Speaker 3: Yeah. And the other problem that the, that kind of thinking engages in is often they'll jump to that conclusion from possibility and without considering, like, what is the implication of this on other things? 01:46:06 Speaker 4: Yeah. 01:46:06 Speaker 3: If that thing that I'm deciding is true is true, what then? Like, how do I square this with all of the other things that I have already expressed? 01:46:16 Speaker 4: Right. 01:46:16 Speaker 3: And that they usually end up in very weird boxes, like Alex is in right now. 01:46:22 Speaker 1: Yeah. 01:46:46 Speaker 3: So, Trump lost on purpose. I guess that's kind of where we're at. 01:46:51 Speaker 4: It's funny? 01:46:52 Speaker 3: Trump thinks it's funny. 01:46:54 Speaker 4: Okay. 01:46:56 Speaker 3: Trump's just sitting there laughing in private. Stephen Miller and him are just... Alex thought I was trying. 01:47:03 Speaker 4: Oh, my God. 01:47:05 Speaker 3: So, yeah, that's where we're going to go. 01:47:07 Speaker 1: And so everybody's saying, oh, the Democrats. No, no, they're not going to get Trump. They're going to come after us, which is fine. Because if God's with us, who'd be against us? But I now already knew instinctively spiritually it was happening, but I didn't want to believe it because I'd invested so much in Trump. 01:47:23 Speaker 3: Yeah. 01:47:23 Speaker 1: Trump is a demon-possessed goblin. And he is damned to hell. And we've been totally proven right about it all. 01:47:34 Speaker 5: What? 01:47:35 Speaker 3: Wait, huh? 01:47:36 Speaker 4: All along. It's in the white papers. What are you talking about? 01:47:40 Speaker 3: We've been proven right that Trump is a demon-possessed goblin? 01:47:43 Speaker 4: Yeah. 01:47:44 Speaker 3: Yeah. Why do you need to possess a goblin? Like, goblin should probably already be kind of demon-y, right? 01:47:49 Speaker 4: That's a good point. 01:47:49 Speaker 3: Seems redundant to possess a goblin. Yeah. Yeah, it's dumb. But what else can he do? You know, like, this is what I'm realizing is, like, what other roads are available? 01:48:02

Speaker 4: Yeah, I was always right. Yeah, because there's no past, there's no future. There's only now, and I was always right. 01:48:07 Speaker 3: And there's also no future. Like, there's, like, I guess his best option is probably, like, Let's begrudgingly support Vance. 01:48:16 Speaker 4: Yeah. 01:48:17 Speaker 3: I guess. 01:48:18 Speaker 4: Yeah. 01:48:19 Speaker 5: Yeah. 01:48:20 Speaker 3: No Ron Paul waiting in the wings. 01:48:22 Speaker 1: Yeah. 01:48:23 Speaker 4: Just the compilation of just him calling Trump daddy. He even said it in the beginning. I remember because it was gross where he's like, you've been glazing Trump. And I'm like, but I mean, he has. He knows he has. 01:48:36 Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, to be fair, daddy was more Tucker's thing. 01:48:40 Speaker 4: That's true. That is true. 01:48:42 Speaker 3: Tucker had more of a clear psychosexual thing that got into parentage with Trump. 01:48:49 Speaker 4: Yeah, that also feels more like a Tucker thing. Like he's such a dandy. It feels like he'd be in like short pants and be like, daddy, punish me like with a big lollipop. Like he is much more that guy. Yeah. 01:49:02 Speaker 3: To Alex's relationship with his dad is this, like, you never loved me, and now I'm going to use your infirm condition to fake crying on air about how bad Trump has been to me. Tucker is more, ooh, power. So, you know, I mean, I guess if we... reached the conclusion that Trump did this on purpose, that he thinks it's funny, and he's a demon-possessed goblin. Yeah. The only thing you can do is impeach the man. 01:49:35 Speaker 5: Right. 01:49:36 Speaker 3: So Alex wants him impeached. 01:49:37 Speaker 1: Oh. So I want to say immediately, Trump needs to be impeached. He needs to be 25th Amendmented. He needs to be war-powered right now. This guy made statements on purpose to lose this election, and this is very freeing for me because... I have this weird paradox where I'm persecuted for somebody. That's the trick of the devil. So I'm thinking, oh, I'm fighting the system. No, this was a very sophisticated judo move. 01:50:09 Speaker 3: Alex can't understand anything that's happening in the world unless he filters it through a lens where he's the main character. If you take this delusional nonsense seriously, he's suggesting that all of the attacks on Trump were staged and faked. with Trump's collusion, in order to get Alex. All of this geopolitical stuff, it's all about him. The midterm election was about him. And how could it not be? God chose him to be the strongest boy who defeats the devil, so this must be all about Alex. I don't really know what to say about this other than it is the mark of a completely insane person, and I worry, I worry. 01:50:45 Speaker 4: It's like in real time, like when he says it's a judo throw that Trump's doing, It's like his brain is doing the judo throw. He's sitting there trying to untangle the knot he's made where he's trying desperately to grab onto where am I the good guy who's always correct? Where am I the warrior? But I've been pandering to these guys for so long. How do I dig myself out of these holes where I can say that I was tricked? And I can say that the devil put me under some kind of like, but I'm God's great warrior. Like, I can't figure out how to flip the situation. 01:51:27 Speaker 3: If you take it at its most basic level here, what he's trying to express is this idea that the globalists attacked Trump, which made him think that Trump was good. And then he defended Trump because he saw his enemies attacking him. And that defending Trump is him getting himself caught in a judo move. Yeah. 01:51:51 Speaker 1: Yeah. 01:51:52 Speaker 3: But if that's true, then Trump's in on it. Right. I mean, through an election. 01:51:57 Speaker 8: Yeah. 01:51:58 Speaker 3: Through the midterms. 01:51:59 Speaker 5: Right. 01:51:59 Speaker 3: Like he's in on this. So for the last 10 years, all of this has been like this weird trap for Alex. 01:52:08 Speaker 2: Yeah. 01:52:08 Speaker 3: It's ridiculous. 01:52:10 Speaker 4: Like this. long game that Trump has set up is too long. Like he's done too much damage. If, if that's your agenda, like for him to like turncoat now, like why set all this up to get Democrats in power of, I don't know, like at the end of his like term, I would argue. 01:52:33 Speaker 3: Too, that if this were true and this was like a weird judo situation, Trump wouldn't have tweeted, that Alex's family thinks he's stupid. Like, he wouldn't have done that shitty tweet. 01:52:45 Speaker 5: Yeah. 01:52:45 Speaker 3: He would have just left it alone, probably. 01:52:47 Speaker 6: Yeah. 01:52:48 Speaker 4: Like, why do all of this to get to this point? And even, like, we were talking about before that Trump still is in control. He took over two branches of our government. So like the DOJ and like the judiciary, like Supreme court are still Trump's. So anything they try to do to him, they have the obstacle of, it really has to be on the state level until Congress can start to rebuild those institutions that would be able to like put a monitor on him. So, I mean, if anything, Alex is sort of doing the work of the Democrats in this sense, of encouraging the conservatives to impeach him. 01:53:26 Speaker 3: Yeah. And I think that there's an interesting gambit that he's pulling there. And that is that like, I think he knows that they will try and impeach Trump and there's a chance that it'll be successful. 01:53:39 Speaker 8: Yeah. 01:53:40 Speaker 3: And if he's doing this kind of shit now, he can claim that he was responsible for it. Or like, you know, this is such a sign of our integrity that we were willing to impeach our own guy. Yeah. Yeah. 01:53:55 Speaker 4: And he probably thinks the Democrats are a little bit more powerful than they are. 01:53:59 Speaker 3: Probably. 01:54:00 Speaker 1: Yeah. 01:54:00 Speaker 4: So he probably thinks it's a pretty likely outcome that they'll impeach him.

01:54:03 Speaker 3: But I think I think that that belief of that power is also part of the like the fraud and the show that they need to be. They're overpowered and also weak as hell at the same time. And that was the time to emphasize their strength because we got to sell food buckets and air guns. 01:54:21 Speaker 5: Yeah. 01:54:24 Speaker 3: So we have another guest coming on. 01:54:27 Speaker 4: Okay. 01:54:28 Speaker 3: And he's someone who you have already called gross. 01:54:30 Speaker 4: Okay. 01:54:31 Speaker 3: It is Pastor Joel Webben. And he seems to want to come on to assign blame. Guess what? It was the Jews. 01:54:40 Speaker 6: The way I see it, man, you got two choices. Normally how life goes right now, the Magatars, the neocons, everybody in the GOP, they have one of two options. You can cope or you can seethe. What I mean by that is, on the one hand, you can say, this is podcastistan's fault, right? This is the fault of Tucker Carlson and Alex Jones and Nick Fuentes and the Groypers. They cost us this. But you've got to pick a lane, because I've been hearing people say that, hey, you're countersignaling us. You're going to cause us to lose midterms. And then every other tweet, every other post is, you guys are insignificant. You're losers, low IQ. Nobody listens to you. You don't have any influence at all. So either we do have influence, in which case... You need to buckle up and start obeying our demands. 01:55:21 Speaker 2: And by the way, you're dead on. I shouldn't have raised this. Who are they going to blame? 01:55:26 Speaker 3: If I were a church-going person and my pastor said podcast-istan, I would leave that damn church so fast. I don't think that people who put themselves in spiritual leadership roles need to be perfect. But the bare minimum is that they can't be middle-aged people using dorky meme talk. That is no good. Joel's point here is interesting, because basically he's saying that he doesn't want people to blame him and his Nazi friends for tanking the midterms. He's seen tweets blaming him, but also tweets saying he's insignificant, so his angle is basically that his enemies need to choose one or the other. One option is that he and his dumb friends are very influential, and their actions cost the midterms. If that's the case, then the GOP should be scared of them and follow their demands, so they don't sabotage future elections. The other option is that he and his dumb friends aren't influential at all, which means that the terrible results of the midterms aren't his fault. They just don't have the juice to lose a midterm, even if they wanted to. You can kind of see how Joel offering these two things as the only options is a way of pumping himself up and absolving himself and his ilk of any blame for the midterms. If they're influential, then the powers that be should have listened to them so they could have won. If they aren't influential, then nothing they do matters in the outcomes. And honestly, Joel can

fuck off. I don't care about this guy. He wants a theocracy where women can't vote. So I don't give a shit how he wants to post-game the midterm. You don't want people voting. You don't want a midterm. 01:56:55 Speaker 4: No, he doesn't. 01:56:56 Speaker 3: What are you talking about? I do not want electoral analysis from a theocrat, dictator-loving guy. No, no. 01:57:07 Speaker 4: God, where did this guy come from? 01:57:09 Speaker 3: I don't know. he, he festered up and definitely became like, he must've gotten a cash infusion during the time that I was off because he didn't exist as a, like a relevant entity before April, let's say. And now he's showing up on all kinds of things. And like, he's really like his church has existed for a number of years and like, he's had a YouTube channel and he's tried to court some of this Shit, but it's gone to another level in the last like six months or so. 01:57:45 Speaker 4: It sounds like maybe some of Tim Pool's money went over that way. 01:57:49 Speaker 3: I don't know. It's possible. 01:57:51 Speaker 1: Yeah. 01:57:52 Speaker 3: Interesting. Yeah. It never fails to surprise me how there's like seasons with these people. 01:58:00 Speaker 1: Yeah. 01:58:00 Speaker 3: Like for a short minute, you could not shake a stick without seeing Count Dankula or Carpe Dunctum. 01:58:09 Speaker 1: Yeah. 01:58:10 Speaker 3: You couldn't do it. They were everywhere on these dumb shit shows. Ben Garrison. They come and then they go. And right now, Joel Webben, he's getting his shot at the prime time. 01:58:26 Speaker 4: God, there really are a lot of them. You should get baseball cards. They're stats. 01:58:32 Speaker 3: All bad. You shouldn't have said that, because now I want to do that. And I want the stats to be accurate. 01:58:41 Speaker 4: Yeah, like how many InfoWars appearances, how many, like, what's your top, like, view count? 01:58:47 Speaker 3: It's going to be tough to keep current, but, like, with baseball cards, you'd have, like, season by season. 01:58:52 Speaker 1: Right. 01:58:53 Speaker 3: So it would be year by year. 01:58:54 Speaker 4: How many. 01:58:55 Speaker 3: Oh, no. 01:58:55 Speaker 5: Oh, no. 01:58:59 Speaker 3: Cause I remember back when I was a kid, I used to look at the box scores all the time. And you know, like there's the stats are like games played games started. And so games started, I would assume would have to be like, how many times you're in the a block, you know, how many times are you the first guest? 01:59:14 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. 01:59:16 Speaker 3: Then like assists would have to be like appearances without the bottom falling out. 01:59:23 Speaker 1: Sure. 01:59:24 Speaker 3: How many times have you been on and it wasn't a total disaster? 01:59:27 Speaker 2: Yeah. 01:59:27 Speaker 1: Yeah. 01:59:28 Speaker 4: Interesting. 01:59:30 Speaker 3: Well, I got my next week. 01:59:34 Speaker 2: Thanks. 01:59:35 Speaker 4: Well, I'm your designer friend, so that seems like it's definitely. 01:59:39 Speaker 3: But I'm going to have to come up with all the stats. 01:59:41 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's true. 01:59:42 Speaker 3: I'm going to be number crunching. 01:59:44 Speaker 4: Busy boy. 01:59:45 Speaker 3: Well, Joel Webben's going to be like, his rookie card's going to be hotly sought after. This is going to be a nice item. 01:59:53 Speaker 4: Yeah. 01:59:54 Speaker 3: So he gets to talking about Christian nationalism. And how that's a great thing and everybody should be into it. 02:00:00 Speaker 4: Oh, good. 02:00:01 Speaker 3: And I think that Alex is like, guy, hey, come on. Too blunt. Too blunt. 02:00:07 Speaker 6: Here's the deal. It breaks my heart, right? As a Christian pastor, as somebody who cares about politics, who's a Christian nationalist, wants to see Christ as king, America first, America only, it breaks my heart. But here's the reality, Alex Harrison. You guys, we all know this. The number one issue that people vote on. 02:00:23 Speaker 5: Right. 02:00:24 Speaker 6: It's not Christian laws. I wish it was. It's not. They vote on the economy. Can I afford gas? Can I afford groceries? Can I afford to buy a home and get married and have kids like my parents did? 02:00:35 Speaker 1: 100 percent. It's made to destroy the family. So getting back to that. 02:00:40 Speaker 6: That's it. 02:00:41 Speaker 2: Back to Trump, though. 02:00:42 Speaker 1: Clearly, he knew saying, I don't care about your economic problems. Is he going to sleep or sell the whole time or are you possessed? 02:00:50 Speaker 6: No, I think he got possessed. I don't think that he was a sleeper cell. I think he made a deal. 02:00:54 Speaker 3: Okay. So I think that, you know, Joel was heading down this road of like, we need to have Christian law. 02:01:01 Speaker 8: Yeah. 02:01:02 Speaker 3: We need to, the constitution must, you know, it's, I think that Alex isn't quite ready to like be a full on like, Hey, we need theocracy. 02:01:12 Speaker 2: Yeah. 02:01:12 Speaker 3: He's, he's around the point where it's like, yeah, Pinochet is okay. But I don't know about like a Pope. 02:01:18 Speaker 2: Right. 02:01:19 Speaker 3: Or something. But Joel's there, and Alex is like, let's get back on. Let's cool it. 02:01:25 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, let's make this more general. 02:01:27 Speaker 3: You're going to scare the normies and the atheists that I pretend I'm cool with. 02:01:32 Speaker 4: We can all agree Trump is possessed. 02:01:37 Speaker 3: He's possessed. 02:01:37 Speaker 4: That solves the problem. 02:01:39 Speaker 3: I mean, rational adults, when we're sitting here and having the conversation about what's going on, possessed is like baseline. 02:01:47 Speaker 4: Yeah. 02:01:50 Speaker 5: Clear. 02:01:50 Speaker 1: Yeah. 02:01:52 Speaker 3: So Alex starts complaining about how hunters don't vote enough, which is something that Ted Nugent used to complain all the time to him about. And somehow this becomes white people. 02:02:06 Speaker 1: The

Motor City Madman says on my show all the time that all of the country, hunters vote like 50% or 45, conservatives like 50%. He's like, Muslims vote 99%. What is wrong with conservative, hunting, gun-owning white people? You guys think you're running everything. You're not. We're screwed, you dummies. You have no fucking. 02:02:31 Speaker 2: Idea how screwed we are. I'm sorry I'm cussing, Patrick. 02:02:33 Speaker 1: Alex. 02:02:33 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's nice to apologize to the pastor for swearing. 02:02:36 Speaker 1: Yeah. 02:02:38 Speaker 3: When he has already said, podcastistan. 02:02:40 Speaker 4: What a weird demographic breakdown. It's like, we have Muslims vote 99%, and then hunters 50%. Like, they're just like another... constituency. Like, that's so strange. 02:02:55 Speaker 3: Well, he's saying that because Ted Nugent used to say that on his show. Because Ted Nugent did a bunch of Hunter kind of, like, advocacy and what have you. So it's just some data point that Alex is grasping at. But I also think that in that clip, he forgot Ted Nugent's name. I legitimately think he said the Motor City of Madman because he couldn't come up with Ted Nugent. 02:03:15 Speaker 4: That's very possible. He seems very drunk. 02:03:18 Speaker 3: Yeah, and also, like, Nugent obviously is a piece of shit and what have you, but the way that he approached that advocacy was about like rural people and hunters. 02:03:30 Speaker 4: Right. 02:03:31 Speaker 3: Alex is taking that and being a little bit too overt about like what that means. 02:03:35 Speaker 2: Yeah. 02:03:36 Speaker 4: Yeah. 02:03:36 Speaker 3: By throwing the white in there. 02:03:38 Speaker 4: It's a proxy for, for good old boys. 02:03:40 Speaker 3: Yeah. 02:03:41 Speaker 4: But it's also like, yeah, that, that term isn't actually loaded. Like if you look at the demographic of like hunters, it's, it's, gonna be men and women and you know there's not gonna be like one thing that it is right it's like when I look at a comment on the internet and I kind of just always predicture like a certain kind of dude as being everybody on the internet I have to check myself sometimes to be like sometimes I'm I like am I really just fighting with a 13 year. 02:04:11 Speaker 3: Old yeah yeah that's why I'm glad I never got into like playing video games online yeah because like I I I could never be sure that I wouldn't be trash-talking a kid. And, like, I just never wanted to open the box. 02:04:26 Speaker 8: Yeah. 02:04:27 Speaker 3: So my whole, like, kind of policy of non-engagement has been... It's worked wonders for me. 02:04:32 Speaker 8: Yeah. 02:04:32 Speaker 4: It's like, I used to listen to this podcast called The F Plus, and they read, like... They just, like, perform bad comment forums on the internet. 02:04:42 Speaker 1: And. 02:04:42 Speaker 4: It became apparent in a lot of these fetish things that sometimes these are just children who don't know how sex works but are curious and they've been reading this. 02:04:53 Speaker 3: That's uncomfortable. 02:04:54 Speaker 4: And you're like, oh no, they don't know what sex is. 02:05:00 Speaker 3: And now we have that kind of shit that something might look like a kid and it'd be like, it might just be a robot. 02:05:07 Speaker 4: Yeah, who knows how much is just robots. 02:05:11 Speaker 3: It's all a mess. It's worthless. Fuck the internet, I say in a podcast. From my mansion in podcast-istan. 02:05:22 Speaker 4: Oh my god, I can see like little turrets with like the little podcast mics on the top of them. Like the Dilbert house. Oh my god, the palace. 02:05:31 Speaker 3: We have a lot of soft power. 02:05:35 Speaker 4: Very soft. Flaccid, I'd call it. 02:05:38 Speaker 3: See, earlier you were bringing up a guy named Ramaswarmi. 02:05:41 Speaker 4: Yeah. 02:05:42 Speaker 3: Ramaswarmi. Damn it. And everybody calls him Vivek. And that's not right. His name is Vivek. I know that because it rhymes with cake. And I heard him say that in a rap battle. 02:05:52 Speaker 4: Yes. 02:05:53 Speaker 3: So he is someone who Joel Webben does not like because he's a Hindu. 02:05:58 Speaker 6: Here are the things that we need. Let's just be brutally honest. Number one, it has to be Christ. It has to be Christian. No more of this Vivek. Lost in a landslide. And I'll tell you, there's a lot of reasons why. 02:06:10 Speaker 1: One trillion percent. Only God is going to save us at this point. And it was always going to be God. And God always brings us to that point, Pastor. We are now literally have to put everything into God. 02:06:23 Speaker 3: That's right. 02:06:23 Speaker 6: So Vivek lost for a number of reasons. He lost, one, because he is literally an anchor baby. His own father has not found the time or the importance in decades to become an American citizen himself. He's an anchor baby. 02:06:35 Speaker 3: Number two. 02:06:36 Speaker 6: His parents scammed people, as far as we can tell, allegedly, but it seems pretty certain, scammed heritage Americans out of millions of dollars for a miracle drug that it seems like they had knowledge was not going to work. 02:06:47 Speaker 2: Yeah, medical scams. So he's a classic scammer. 02:06:49 Speaker 4: Heritage Americans. 02:06:50 Speaker 6: Not beating the stereotypes when it comes to Indians, right? You literally have a scamming Indian. So anchor baby, scammer. Here's another one, though. You can't get away from it. The dude is a Hindu. He worships three million gods. 02:07:03 Speaker 8: Yes. 02:07:04 Speaker 6: Hindu, that's not going to work in America. 02:07:07 Speaker 3: Whoa, Joel, Joel, Joel, Joel. 02:07:11 Speaker 2: Okay. 02:07:12 Speaker 4: All right. You said there's somebody worse than this guy? 02:07:16 Speaker 3: Maybe based on vibes. 02:07:18 Speaker 4: Oh, boy. 02:07:18 Speaker 3: Okay. Joel is, like, his delivery to me is, like, just such a youth pastor-y kind of, like, I don't find, I think he's grating. But I don't find him as like, I want to

punch this guy. There's another guy who comes up later who I like, I viscerally want to punch. And Joel is just kind of like, I'm used to this vocal pattern. And the awful things that he's saying, I mean, on the one hand, they're explicit. Yeah. Like he's not hiding this. 02:07:50 Speaker 5: No. 02:07:51 Speaker 3: This is pretty in your face that like he just wants a white Christian state. 02:07:56 Speaker 4: Yes. 02:07:57 Speaker 3: Uh that is run by men and women can't vote and also uh irish need not apply yeah. 02:08:06 Speaker 4: And all those queer people can go dig ourselves in a hole. 02:08:09 Speaker 3: And hide yeah i i i think if you i think he sucks uh yeah how could we rank I don't know if we can rank. They all suck. Everyone sucks. 02:08:20 Speaker 4: I am shocked by his explicitness. 02:08:23 Speaker 3: Well, I mean, it's a pastor who said podcast to Stan. You're not somebody who's got a lot of scruples. 02:08:31 Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like this game usually has a shell game. There is usually some kind of cover that they're trying. And he is entirely unaware of it. I don't know if he just doesn't want to bow down to the pressure of not saying it explicitly, or if he's just completely unaware that they try to hide this stuff. 02:08:56 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think that that's one of the things that, I think it came up in the episode I did about him with Molly, that the fact that it is so explicit makes me think there's something even worse that you're hiding. 02:09:08 Speaker 2: That's true. 02:09:09 Speaker 3: Because you all hide some kind of shit in order to become more presentable media kind of figures so like if you're saying this shit behind closed doors. 02:09:20 Speaker 4: It's got to be dark yeah yeah oh. 02:09:24 Speaker 3: And thankfully i might get a peek behind those closed doors because joel's got a conference coming up oh. 02:09:30 Speaker 6: Boy so my point is this um we do not have a candidate And I said this, Alex. You were sitting next to me. We said this in the America First versus MAGA debate. I said it to Andrew Wilson. I said it to Gerald Morgan. I said it to Will Chamberlain. I said it to John Doyle. I said, look, you guys think we don't have a plan. That is wrong. America First actually has a plan, and we're laying it out at our conference next week. The timing, this is supernatural. This is the providence of God. I believe in the sovereignty of God. The timing of this conference, and we didn't plan it this way. It's the only dates that the venue had. It's the only dates, and it just so happens to be the week after the midterm election where there is a blue tidal wave, and the title of our conference is Christ is King, America After Trump. We've got to move past Trump. You better be at this event. If you're not at this event, then I don't know what you're doing. If you're in the DFW area and you still don't come out to the event, I don't know what you're doing. 02:10:26 Speaker 3: He's selling me on it. 02:10:27 Speaker 4: Yeah, I know. It sounds like you got to be at this conference. 02:10:30 Speaker 3: So I don't want to be a dick. This should be sold out. 02:10:38 Speaker 4: Are tickets still available? Yes. 02:10:40 Speaker 3: And heavily discounted. 02:10:41 Speaker 5: Oh, boy. 02:10:42 Speaker 4: How much are they? 02:10:43 Speaker 3: So it depends on if you're married. 02:10:46 Speaker 4: Oh, right. 02:10:46 Speaker 3: There's marital passes and family passes and that kind of stuff. But it's $ 2. 50 and then also you could get like 30 to 50% off depending on promo codes. 02:10:57 Speaker 4: Okay. 02:10:58 Speaker 3: But like, I don't think that it speaks well to this that there's tickets available. I think that you really should... Tickets have been on sale. Alex was announced as a speaker on it months ago, a couple months ago. Like, you shouldn't be able to get in. 02:11:16 Speaker 1: Yeah. 02:11:18 Speaker 4: It's a weak list of speakers. I mean, Alex is the headliner on that. 02:11:24 Speaker 3: Yeah, you got Harrison, though. You got Tucker's brother. 02:11:27 Speaker 4: Not even Tucker. 02:11:29 Speaker 3: You've got the guy who I want to punch. Okay. Well, I don't know what I actually want to punch him, but his voice makes me... You'll find out who that is in a little bit. Okay. But yeah, I feel like such an asshole because it's like, I don't want to say, hey, you have low audience engagement. 02:11:48 Speaker 1: Yeah. 02:11:49 Speaker 3: But from the perspective of somebody who's done some live stuff, I feel like you should have sold out a Christian nationalist conference that's a week after the midterms with any lineup of speakers if your audience is engaged. And they're not, clearly. 02:12:07 Speaker 1: Yeah. 02:12:07 Speaker 3: I should not be able to get a ticket to this. And I am. 02:12:12 Speaker 4: Yeah. 02:12:15 Speaker 3: I didn't want to go, but Joel made it. You have to go. 02:12:18 Speaker 4: He sold it. 02:12:18 Speaker 3: He said it. 02:12:19 Speaker 4: He did. This is the place to be. 02:12:21 Speaker 3: What are you thinking if you're not there? 02:12:23 Speaker 4: Yeah, I know. This is mandatory. 02:12:27 Speaker 3: So that'll be exciting. Oh, boy. I hope I don't die. 02:12:31 Speaker 5: Same. 02:12:32 Speaker 3: So Alex, he starts to think about the snake and the parable of the snake. About how, like, you knew I was a snake. Why'd you take me across that river, dude? You know I'm a snake. Yeah, yeah. I think he remembers that, oh shit, Trump used to do that in speeches. It's kind of apropos now. 02:12:54 Speaker 2: Ah, shit. 02:12:55 Speaker 1: You knew I was a snake when you brought me in. Trump told us who he was. The parable of the snake's about to begin. We'll finish up with Pastor Joel Webber and more massive. 02:13:07 Speaker 2: Guests coming up. God bless you all for putting us here. 02:13:10 Speaker 3: We love you. 02:13:11 Speaker 6: Who has heard the poem called The Snake? 02:13:19 Speaker 2: So I have

it. Does anybody want to hear it again? 02:13:21 Speaker 3: You sure? 02:13:23 Speaker 2: Are you sure? 02:13:24 Speaker 4: Tell me a bedtime story, Daddy. 02:13:29 Speaker 2: Okay. 02:13:31 Speaker 1: So let's dedicate this to General Kelly, the Border Patrol, and. 02:13:37 Speaker 2: The ICE agents for doing such an incredible job. Shout out. 02:13:42 Speaker 5: Right? 02:13:46 Speaker 2: This was written by Al Wilson a long time ago. And I thought of it having to do with our borders and people coming in. 02:13:53 Speaker 6: And we know what we're going to have. 02:13:55 Speaker 3: We're going to have problems. 02:13:56 Speaker 2: We have to very, very carefully vet. We have to be smart. We have to be vigilant. So here it is, the snake. 02:14:03 Speaker 6: It's called the snake. 02:14:07 Speaker 2: On her way to work one morning. 02:14:10 Speaker 3: It's so fascinating that that clip Alex is playing there is from the good old days, back when he felt proud to support Trump. It's a bit more focused than his recent work, but that speech is just an asshole reading a children's story to demonize immigrants. He's preaching prejudice and bigotry and delivering his message in a way that treats his audience like babies, and that was peak Trump. And yeah, no shit trumps a snake. Alex has known that the whole time. He just convinced himself he'd never get bit because he was friends with Roger Stone or some shit. Yeah. Like this is a, come on. 02:14:41 Speaker 4: Isn't it a scorpion? 02:14:42 Speaker 3: I think there's different versions. 02:14:43 Speaker 2: Okay. 02:14:44 Speaker 4: I won't fault him on that. 02:14:45 Speaker 3: The scorpion is on the frog's back. I think, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The, the snake story is you, the old lady finds a sick snake and then takes it home and nurses it back to health and then it bites her. 02:14:58 Speaker 4: That's right. 02:14:59 Speaker 6: That's right. 02:15:00 Speaker 4: Uh, Also, it had a commercial he recorded freeloaded on it, and then he talked over that? 02:15:07 Speaker 3: No, he was going out to break playing that commercial muttering. So he was playing that commercial before going to break and started talking about the snake. And then they went to break, and then he came back with the Trump clip. 02:15:21 Speaker 4: Oh my God. There's something about two lines of dialogue happening at the same time. I remember reading that scientists do this to like If they want to shut down somebody's language centers of their brain for a test, they put headphones on you and they play two different kinds of audio at the same time because it just overloads you so much that the whole thing shuts down. And I find it maddening. 02:15:47 Speaker 7: Really? 02:15:48 Speaker 4: I find it like I am going insane when I hear dialogue on top of dialogue and I'm trying to separate the two. I hate it. 02:15:58 Speaker 3: See, that's fascinating because I kind of enjoy it. Because I can quite easily tune out Alex's commercial that

he's playing in the background. I don't know why my brain works that way, but yeah, I could listen to him talk over shit all the time. 02:16:18 Speaker 4: Just like a layering, like a John Adams, Philip Glass sort of percussive. It's music once you layer too many on top of each other. 02:16:27 Speaker 3: His voice is an instrument. No one would disagree on that. 02:16:31 Speaker 4: It's a rusty trombone, if it's something. 02:16:34 Speaker 3: So he comes back from break. He plays that Trump snake clip. And then he decides like, okay, I played an ad. I went to commercials, came back, played that Trump thing. I think it's time for me to do another ad. 02:16:46 Speaker 1: It's got the non-lethal stuff, which you want to get right now. In fact, it was sold out. It's sold out nationwide. We grabbed, this morning, 5,000 rifles and guns. Shoot the rubber bullets and all that stuff. 02:17:02 Speaker 2: We have it at survivalnation.com. 02:17:05 Speaker 3: We're not. 02:17:06 Speaker 4: You okay there, buddy? 02:17:07 Speaker 3: We're not around here. 02:17:10 Speaker 1: And we got all the water filtration, all the storable food, all the Faraday cages, all the solar power. It's all there at survivalnation.com. And you've got to commit it for me because watch these betrayals. I get where everybody gets in a betrayal. Let me tell you something. I'm 100% on target here. And so is my crew. We're all real people that care about freedom. These are products you need right now. This horrible food. 02:17:35 Speaker 3: All right, buddy. 02:17:37 Speaker 4: Oh, boy. 02:17:38 Speaker 3: That's rough. 02:17:39 Speaker 4: I'm just envisioning black goo falling out of his mouth. It's so gross. 02:17:48 Speaker 3: I just see... empty bottles. 02:17:51 Speaker 5: Oh. 02:17:53 Speaker 4: He's definitely throwing up in his mouth. It is so upsetting. 02:17:57 Speaker 3: Less black goo and more just like. 02:18:03 Speaker 4: He's fading. 02:18:04 Speaker 3: I think that also there's a like, you know. Again, I hate myself because I can read this guy so well. There's a moment where he has one of those little burps and it's because he almost said water filtration twice. He said water filtration and then he says, well. 02:18:22 Speaker 4: Better cover it up with a vomit sound. 02:18:26 Speaker 3: What a disaster. 02:18:28 Speaker 4: Saved it. 02:18:29 Speaker 3: So Alex is drunk, clearly, and he wants Joel to do some heavy lifting. And so he's like, hey, man, what do we do? And Joel is like, hey, this is paid programming for my conference. The tickets are still available for it. I'm not telling you the plan now, dickhole. 02:18:49 Speaker 2: But the pastor, again, but I really respect your views on all this. 02:18:56 Speaker 1: What, I mean, we're in for a rough ride here, obviously, but what can we do as conservatives, as Christians, as patriots, with what we're about to face. Because, I mean, obviously, if people thought the assault was bad four years ago, this has been a respite. 02:19:12 Speaker 2: We are about, I think, I can feel it being put through the inferno. 02:19:16 Speaker 1: Yeah. 02:19:17 Speaker 6: So we have a plan and we are going to be laying out this plan at Crisis King America after Trump, the NXR Studios conference next week in Dallas, Texas. And Alex, I know you got Mark Mitchell, who's a friend. We just did a series with him that we've been releasing over the last couple of weeks. But real quick, before you bring him on, if we can. Can we show the schedule? I sent it to your team, the schedule for the conference. 02:19:39 Speaker 3: Hey, Alex, real quick. I paid for this time. Can you put my graphics up on the screen to try and move some more tickets? Because they're still available and we really should have sold this thing out. 02:19:49 Speaker 4: We got to do a push. Rough. 02:19:52 Speaker 3: Yeah. Rough, rough, rough. 02:19:55 Speaker 4: Like we are here to sell things. 02:19:57 Speaker 3: Hey, Joel, what's the plan? I'll tell you if you pay to come to my conference. 02:20:02 Speaker 4: Do they have like exclusive vendors? Is there going to be like shopping? Can you buy, like, pepper bullets? 02:20:08 Speaker 3: I hope. And if someone shoots me with one, that's just the cost of doing business. I don't know. I'm going in as blind as possible. Sure. Except for having seen the schedule and hoo, hoo, hoo, hoo, hoo. 02:20:25 Speaker 4: I bet there's some juicy topics in there. 02:20:27 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. There are, and also there's a couple of, special guest slots that I'm curious how disappointing they'll be. I really am curious because I can't imagine who they would have that's bigger than Alex and who has a reputation that they can't be on the poster. 02:20:49 Speaker 4: Right? 02:20:51 Speaker 3: I think it could be Tucker because his brother's speaking. 02:20:54 Speaker 5: Right. 02:20:55 Speaker 4: But I mean, if they had Tucker, they would be plastering that everywhere. 02:20:59 Speaker 3: As he said, I'll come, but you can't advertise it. 02:21:01 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like, maybe I just got to go visit Buckley. 02:21:04 Speaker 3: Or maybe it's a last minute thing. Maybe they'll announce some big headliner, get the rest of these tickets sold. 02:21:10 Speaker 4: Yeah, it seems a little weak. 02:21:13 Speaker 3: I don't know. We'll see. 02:21:14 Speaker 4: Not enough people signing up for the lecture on how to get my bitch wife to stop making spaghetti for dinner. 02:21:20 Speaker 3: That's on day two. 02:21:24 Speaker 2: Moderated. 02:21:25 Speaker 3: It's a panel moderated by Harrison. Um, yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm excited to see what I don't learn. Uh, a little, little, uh, something. Yeah. 02:21:35 Speaker 4: I'd love to see some branded swag. 02:21:38 Speaker 3: I imagine that there'll be a lot of, uh, merch available that says really sad things about how hard it is to be white. Uh, We see here a little bit of that here. 02:21:50 Speaker 7: Well, you all know it's great. I don't

know if you all saw the video today. 02:21:52 Speaker 8: Greg Abbott, for once, I don't think I've ever heard a governor of any state in America actually reference white people positively. He said, you know, white men are losing their jobs. And it's like here at the last hour, they realize, hey, maybe we should actually. 02:22:06 Speaker 2: Daylight dollar short. 02:22:08 Speaker 1: And that's the good news. I want to be positive here. And I'll just put on this. We've been told why people are evil because we're the West and the global is threatened by it. If we don't go join Nazis, run by the ADL and all that fake shit, but we're proud of our culture. 02:22:24 Speaker 2: We're proud of God. We're proud of Christ. 02:22:26 Speaker 1: If we come together, white men who are only 3% of the world population are unstoppable. And we have to realize that and just say that there is an attack on us. We understand we're... It's a position by God, and we're going to rise the occasion. And if white men realize they're not victims being attacked, you're under attack because you have something the enemy doesn't want to be brought forward. We are going to win. We survived the Ice Age. We survived all this hell. They are afraid of our hard drives. They're afraid of our will. 02:23:04 Speaker 3: That's a little bit more white supremacist than Alex usually gets. But sometimes he touches on this kind of thing when he's drunk, so I don't want to read too much into it. You really can't hear what he just said and explain it any other way than that Alex believes white men are better than everyone else and society is attacking them because everyone is jealous of how superior white men are. 02:23:24 Speaker 4: Are they 3% of the world population? Is that true? 02:23:27 Speaker 1: What? 02:23:28 Speaker 4: He said that white men are 3% of the population. 02:23:31 Speaker 3: Um, no, I don't think that's accurate, but he likes the 3% number because the three percenters and like the idea that 3% of the American population was into the revolutionary war, that kind of stuff. He likes that number. 02:23:43 Speaker 1: Yeah. 02:23:44 Speaker 4: Cause that definitely would be over representation of culture. 02:23:48 Speaker 3: I also think that the way around this for him is like, how do you define white people? You can just define it as 3%, right? I mean, just exclude various groups until you get to three. 02:23:59 Speaker 4: That's true. 02:24:00 Speaker 3: So I think he's got this figured out. 02:24:04 Speaker 4: This is ironclad. He's got this locked down. 02:24:07 Speaker 3: Yeah. Further, like this is fucked up, but you have to understand also this belief he has of the superiority of white men is something that traces to God. Like this is a religious tenant for him. Yeah. None of this is really news and it's shit that he definitely tried to wiggle out of if he were pressed on it. But Alex is just like a white identity guy. He can't separate his own religious fanaticism from white supremacy because they're the same. So when people are like, hey, you're being racist. He's like, no, I'm just a Christian. And he's not lying. His idea of Christianity is racist. 02:24:46 Speaker 2: Sucks. 02:24:47 Speaker 8: Yeah. 02:24:48 Speaker 2: Yeesh. 02:24:49 Speaker 5: Yeah. 02:24:49 Speaker 4: Oh, boy. That is wild. Like, I remember when I went to college and they were like, you hate white men now. you hate them. This is the, the truth we've revealed to you for the future. 02:25:03 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I mean like there is the meeting where you get your schedule for your first classes. There's the like orientation kind of thing where like maybe if you're on campus living, maybe you're meeting the people who are on your floor. 02:25:16 Speaker 1: Yeah. 02:25:16 Speaker 4: And then they give you your sexual orientation. 02:25:18 Speaker 3: Right. 02:25:19 Speaker 5: Right. 02:25:19 Speaker 3: You do the hat draw. 02:25:20 Speaker 1: Yeah. 02:25:21 Speaker 3: And then there's the white people suck. Uh, pow wow. Yes. Lecture. Um, I regret saying powwow. 02:25:33 Speaker 4: I was like, is that part of the bit? Or is that just being old? No, that's going to be cut out. They slip out. And you're like, oh, we used to call it that, but that's not right. 02:25:45 Speaker 3: I miss that day in college when we talked about how that language isn't okay. So they're getting into this white supremacist shit. And it's very convenient because Harrison realizes, ah, this is a good time for me to plug... My other boss, Joel Webben, has a new book out called White Genocide. 02:26:04 Speaker 6: So I'm going to go ahead and plug that. 02:26:07 Speaker 8: Well, yeah, and let me plug White Genocide, the book by Joel Webben. It's actually fantastic. I've been reading it, and it is so jam-packed. 02:26:16 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've read half of it since he was here. 02:26:17 Speaker 7: It's amazing. I mean, it talks about— And it's all documented. And it's Christianity and everything. 02:26:21 Speaker 6: Search it on Amazon. Just on Amazon, search White Genocide. 02:26:25 Speaker 2: It'll pop up. 02:26:26 Speaker 6: We literally just published this book, Harrison, because— We know what's going on. 02:26:30 Speaker 3: On Amazon? What are you talking about? Ooh, my dangerous white genocide book is available on Bezos' platform. Go fuck yourself. 02:26:42 Speaker 4: Free speech is canceled. The censorship of self-publishing on Kindle. 02:26:47 Speaker 3: Yeah, oh, I'm so dangerous. 02:26:49 Speaker 4: Oh, be on the keywords for white genocide. 02:26:52 Speaker 3: That is crazy. Even if his book is available on Amazon... That shouldn't be the first thing he says. 02:26:59 Speaker 4: No, it really undercuts your cred. 02:27:03 Speaker 3: Shouldn't you have like a Christian distribution outlet or something like that? Like, come on, man. 02:27:07 Speaker 4: A million of those weird ass like self-publishing Christian book scams. 02:27:11 Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's the

profit margins a little better on Amazon probably. 02:27:14 Speaker 4: Not if you start the self-publishing Christian Amazon scam. 02:27:20 Speaker 3: This is not his first book either. He has some other well-titled books. 02:27:25 Speaker 4: Oh. 02:27:26 Speaker 3: He's a piece of shit. 02:27:26 Speaker 5: Uh-huh. 02:27:28 Speaker 3: But, like I said, there's someone else who I think is the grossest of the people on the show. 02:27:34 Speaker 4: Oh, I'm bracing myself. 02:27:35 Speaker 3: And now we get to him. He is a former candidate. who's running for office, lost sadly. James Fishback. 02:27:45 Speaker 5: Of course, the new Congress is not going to be sworn until early January. Let me say this right here, right now. Let me break a little bit of news on the Alex Jones network. If President Trump threatens in any way, shape or form publicly to deploy a tactical or battlefield nuclear weapon on the country of Iran, he should be removed from office using the 25th Amendment of the United States Constitution. 02:28:08 Speaker 3: There are certain voices that you hear and you just instantly feel the almost out of control insecurity of the person speaking. It's a measured, practiced, and false kind of confidence that's dripping out of every syllable. The image comes to mind of a guy who joined the debate team because he thought he could argue a bully into not putting him into a locker. James Fishback has one such voice. His bombshell here that he's dropping about the 25th Amendment lands terribly because he's Alex and Harrison have been screaming for four hours at this point about how Trump needs to be removed immediately. If you're listening to this show, James Fishback's declaration is a step backwards because he's saying that Trump should be 25th only if he threatens Iran. He's putting a condition on it. So while he thinks he's sounding really bold and like he's taking a stand, in context, it sounds like he's waffling. 02:28:59 Speaker 5: Yeah. 02:28:59 Speaker 3: This guy's a dork. 02:29:02 Speaker 4: He should have, like, there's no. 02:29:05 Speaker 4: There's no like pivoting there. Like he can't adjust to the fact that they've already thrown this out here. 02:29:11 Speaker 3: Yeah. If you want to say something that's going to be shocking on InfoWars, you've got to be like guillotine. You have to go even further than them. And instead he's going halfway. 02:29:24 Speaker 4: Yeah. 02:29:24 Speaker 3: And the tone of his voice is like, he's saying something that's a little dangerous, saying something brave. 02:29:32 Speaker 4: Yeah, all these guys need an improv class. None of them are capable of listening. Because the easy thing to do is just say, yeah, we do need to impeach him. What if he launches a nuclear missile? We can't let that happen. Then you're already on board reinforcing what they've laid out. It's such an easy shift. 02:29:53 Speaker 3: I think James probably just wasn't listening to the show because it's bad. 02:29:56 Speaker 2:

Yeah. 02:29:58 Speaker 3: He has no idea what the conversation has already been. And maybe in some other interviews that he's done, this actually is a bold stance. Instead, he's providing a scenario where Trump would be safe from being 25th Amendmented. And he just sounds stupid. Also kind of big drama major energy. So they're talking a little bit about how AIPAC is saying like, oh, we're not going to invest in campaigns anymore or whatever. And James Fishback calls that a Jewish mind trick. 02:30:33 Speaker 4: Oh, no. 02:30:33 Speaker 1: What do you make two weeks ago of AIPAC saying we're not going to fund campaigns, which we know has a lot to do with super PACs, but at least the public capitulation, what do you think is behind that? 02:30:44 Speaker 5: Well, I think it's a Jedi mind trick. I would say a Jewish mind trick from the Goldbergs. I don't trust a word of it. 02:30:50 Speaker 2: These aren't the droids you're looking for? 02:30:52 Speaker 4: We are not. 02:30:54 Speaker 5: We're not going to fall for it. Anakin Skywalker didn't. We aren't going to fall for it either. We understand who the enemy here is. 02:30:59 Speaker 3: I think Anakin did fall for it. 02:31:02 Speaker 4: He also didn't Jedi mind trick anybody, did he? 02:31:06 Speaker 3: No, that was more Obi-Wan. 02:31:08 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think it did. 02:31:09 Speaker 3: But, The mind trick did not work on Watto, which is complicated now. I don't know what Fishback thinks of Watto. 02:31:19 Speaker 4: Oh, boy. Yeah, Watto's loaded. 02:31:22 Speaker 3: Leaving that aside, I think that, yeah, Fishback's being a little bit blunt here. 02:31:29 Speaker 4: Yeah, a little overt. Yikes. 02:31:32 Speaker 3: I just don't know what else. 02:31:36 Speaker 3: There's not really criticism of what he's saying. He's saying what he's saying, and he deserves to be hit for it. Yes. This isn't stuff we're going to debate or anything. He's just saying anti-Semitic racist shit. Yes. That's it. 02:31:52 Speaker 4: I don't like this timeline where liberal support of Palestine and anti-Semitism... have like ridden the same train and you have to sit next to somebody like, I'm not with them. I'm not, this is different. What they're doing is different. 02:32:12 Speaker 3: So, um, Alex, I'd love this. And I really think that this is the point we're at and he needs to do some reflection and soul searching about this. 02:32:21 Speaker 5: And so the 25th amendment is one option. Public pressure is another, but every single patriot. 02:32:27 Speaker 2: That's the most, War powers. 02:32:30 Speaker 5: Is yet another option. Look, I think at the end of the day. 02:32:33 Speaker 2: We only failed by three votes in the Senate to get that. I want to put this on the Democrats. 02:32:38 Speaker 3: James, I want you to comment on this. 02:32:40 Speaker 1: We are three votes away. The Democrats literally have said, oh, we love he's doing this. They need to be put on blast and say, listen, dummies. This guy will

destroy the earth. You need to stop this, and you need to... We have been moral and opposed Trump. You cannot go, oh, look, he's wrecking things. We all die. 02:33:00 Speaker 2: What do we do? 02:33:01 Speaker 1: I mean, what do we say to them to get them... Because we only need three votes. 02:33:05 Speaker 2: We have to cut the funding, don't we, James? 02:33:08 Speaker 3: He's basically begging for Democrats to clean up his mess. 02:33:11 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's true. 02:33:14 Speaker 3: I did all this. I pretended that God was demanding that I... lead us to this point now please it's just three. 02:33:21 Speaker 4: Votes clean up my mess fuck you maybe i'm dumb what what are war. 02:33:29 Speaker 3: Powers i so i in the context that he's talking i believe that it would be like a war power resolution that would take away trump's ability to uh continue bombing like iran right like congress would take uh over control of that. 02:33:45 Speaker 4: I see it's to end the war it's not to get rid of him Yeah. 02:33:48 Speaker 3: Presumably it would probably be a step in that direction, but it would be like, yeah, he can't, he can't, uh, cause you know, as time has gone on, we've gone from like, Congress has to declare wars to like, well, you can go for a week, uh, or whatever. And it's gotten so out of control that Trump could just, you know. 02:34:08 Speaker 1: Yeah. 02:34:08 Speaker 4: He keeps extending it by like the war's over and I've restarted it and it's not a war, it's a conflict. So I can do this. 02:34:14 Speaker 3: Yeah. 02:34:15 Speaker 4: Um, Which was what I thought, but they're saying it like it's going to get Trump removed, and that wasn't my understanding of it, but they just might be. 02:34:22 Speaker 3: I think it would mitigate that potential that Trump has, and it would also be a step, because if a president has their war powers taken away, you kind of got to assume they're gone. 02:34:34 Speaker 4: You're acknowledging that he started a war needlessly, unilaterally, and corruptly. 02:34:42 Speaker 3: And can't be trusted to be in control. 02:34:44 Speaker 5: Yeah. 02:34:45 Speaker 3: Of things. So like, yeah, it's sort of a half measure, but also a good measure. 02:34:51 Speaker 4: Right. I was just thinking they were saying it like in a way that it would directly remove him. And I was like, I don't understand what they're talking about. That makes sense. 02:34:59 Speaker 3: So obviously J.D. Vance sucks. 02:35:02 Speaker 5: Yes. 02:35:03 Speaker 3: Obviously Marco Rubio sucks. 02:35:06 Speaker 1: Yes. 02:35:06 Speaker 3: There's no one to run in 2028. No. The right is just destroyed. But. Little baby James Fishbeck pokes his little head out of his locker, and he has an idea of someone who might appeal to the anti-Semites that he speaks for. 02:35:25 Speaker 5: If I'm looking around and being very realistic and honest, obviously there's dark horses out there. But after tonight, the only Republican that has a real chance of

doing something in 2028... is Ron DeSantis. Ron DeSantis is single-handedly the only reason why Republicans were able to hold it down in Florida. 02:35:46 Speaker 2: By the way, I agree with you. He came out and said, stop lying about the war. 02:35:51 Speaker 5: Correct. Stop lying about the war. Stop gaslighting about gas prices. 02:35:55 Speaker 3: Ah, sure. This makes sense. The aggressively anti-Israel people who are in the middle of abandoning their president because he supports Israel too much, they're going to galvanize around Ron DeSantis. It makes you wonder if someone like Fishback even thinks these things through or if it's all just vibes. 02:36:12 Speaker 2: Yeah. 02:36:12 Speaker 3: It's a ridiculous stance for him to take. And with the world we live in now, I can't really be sure if this isn't part of like a betting market pump and dump. I really think this is so stupid it could be a scam. In 2023, Ron DeSantis went to Jerusalem and made a big deal out of signing a law that applied to U.S. citizens there. That was House Bill 269, which expanded the definition of what constituted anti-Semitism for the purposes of hate crimes. This kind of thing will be a huge problem with the very anti-Semitic base that James Fishback relies on. To make things worse, in 2019 DeSantis made history by holding the first ever Florida cabinet meeting outside of the United States in, you guessed it, Israel. If these guys have problems with the current GOP leaders over their support of Israel, Ron DeSantis isn't going to work as the dark horse candidate. Because it's so stupid, this feels like it must be a crypto scheme. I really don't know. 02:37:11 Speaker 4: It could be a Kelshi thing, yeah. 02:37:12 Speaker 3: Or he's just stupid, which is also plausible. 02:37:16 Speaker 4: Yeah, or I don't know. Maybe he just likes DeSantis for whatever reason. 02:37:21 Speaker 3: So Alex... Is in his cups, as they say. and, um, he starts thinking back about Trump and like the good old days back when Trump would call and talk to his wife and talk about how handsome he was. This is just, just a bummer. 02:37:41 Speaker 2: Guys. I don't want to go to the white house. I don't want to go to Mar-a-Lago. I've had Trump call up and literally my wife goes, is he gay? 02:37:48 Speaker 1: After five minutes of your husband's most powerful, incredible man the earth has ever seen. 02:37:53 Speaker 2: That's a real story. 02:37:54 Speaker 1: The president doesn't call you up and suck your wife's dick. I'm like, no, I don't think he's gay. She's like, that was fucking weird. You don't speak to her like five minutes. 02:38:04 Speaker 2: He's handsome. He's incredible. No, he's not gay. 02:38:08 Speaker 1: It's a weird fake currency of emotion. And for me, it didn't work. And she's like, what is this? So I'm not trying to be mean. Notice Trump never challenged that. Literal, repeated calls when I got to my wife about how I'm the ultimate man. And I guess for them, like a president calling that up, to him, it's all about what's free. 02:38:30 Speaker 2: And I know this is always five-minute calls. 02:38:32 Speaker 1: It's all currency. He makes hundreds of calls. Because to him, glazing is a free, it's like a joke. He gets all this shit out of it. And I'm trying to explain to you guys, guys, this doesn't look good. I was still bagging him back then. I'm like, yeah, it's bizarre. It's really bizarre that he just talks about how I'm this incredible man. I'm not this incredible man from him. And I'm not trying to, guys, I've literally had Trump call up and my wife goes, is he gay? 02:38:57 Speaker 3: Alex is accurately describing Trump's flattery tactics, but if he's telling this story, it doesn't make the point that he wants it to make. 02:39:07 Speaker 4: No. 02:39:07 Speaker 3: He wants to act like, yeah, Trump tried to flatter me and it didn't work. But these stories are from back when he was crying about Trump being assigned by God to lead. Like it did work. 02:39:18 Speaker 1: Yeah. 02:39:19 Speaker 3: He said that your family knows you're stupid on Twitter. And now you're acting like this. 02:39:24 Speaker 6: Yeah. 02:39:25 Speaker 3: Like when he said that you were the best and your reputation is amazing and like came on your show. 02:39:31 Speaker 4: It worked. 02:39:32 Speaker 8: Yeah. 02:39:33 Speaker 4: And I'll say, I am in a queer relationship, and my partner and I constantly talk about how he is our gayest president. Like, he is... He's talking a lot. 02:39:44 Speaker 3: About asses and dicks now, like at the campaign rallies. 02:39:48 Speaker 4: From the moment he had his Phantom of the Opera crash out at the White House, where they were just blaring, and really, legitimately, this is a good crash out song. It's real dramatic. It's a fun, like, ah! 02:40:00 Speaker 1: Ah! 02:40:02 Speaker 4: But he is just again and again. 02:40:04 Speaker 3: He dances to YMCA all the time. 02:40:07 Speaker 4: Yeah. 02:40:08 Speaker 3: He hugged the flag. 02:40:10 Speaker 4: This is our monkey's paw first gay president. 02:40:16 Speaker 3: I just, yeah, Alex goes on even further. He's like talking about how Trump said that he has a nice ass. It's just like, all right, man. Man, it is late. It is late. It is late. It has been a bad winter. So then he starts talking about aliens. So enjoy that. 02:40:43 Speaker 2: It's a real story. 02:40:45 Speaker 1: It was before January 6th. A few months before, we had like rallies with half a million people. And I'm not a coward. But I'm walking down the street at like noon. And I see this black SUV driving. And this guy had like vampire ears, was like seven feet tall. He looked like a demon with his pig nose. And I'm sitting in the crew, didn't even see it. I had like special ops, guardians, all this stuff. And I thought my heart was being torn out. The guy didn't even see me. He was like sitting there like a vampire, like Nosferatu, but like a big, like Hulk Hogan merges with Nosferatu,

like a big old fucking seven foot tall motherfucker with fucking pointed ears. And I'm sitting there and I like went boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Like, and I actually like went up against the wall. He was like, are you okay? 02:41:29 Speaker 2: I'm like, uh, the guy got in this SUV. He says, I'm tough, man. 02:41:33 Speaker 1: And I like literally went back up against the wall with my heart going like this. These fucking things. I think there's fucking aliens, man. I'm telling you, I saw one in D.C. I'm not bullshitting people. I saw a fucking seven foot tall pointed ear fucking vampire in D.C. I'm only saying this because that's what I think, man. These are fucking aliens, bro. And aliens run D.C. I'm going to get I'm just saying I'm not trying to be dramatic tonight. I was being honest. Like I probably not even Trump, man. Play a robot or something. 02:42:03 Speaker 3: The crew should probably just call it. I don't know why we're still doing the show. What does this have to do with the midterms? 02:42:12 Speaker 4: I have a theory. 02:42:13 Speaker 3: What's that? 02:42:14 Speaker 4: I think Batboy from the National Choir is now a Batman. 02:42:21 Speaker 3: Okay. Well, you would assume. 02:42:22 Speaker 2: Yeah. 02:42:22 Speaker 4: And he's just a chauffeur. And Alex is losing his mind. 02:42:27 Speaker 3: Oh, okay. Okay. So this is just like a grown up. That guy, he's not Batman like Batman. 02:42:33 Speaker 4: No, no, no. He is a bat boy grown and had to get a job. And he's just some guy. He's not the Dark Knight. No, and Alex Jones is flipping the fuck out. 02:42:44 Speaker 3: Yeah, I also think that I don't discount the possibility that Alex has frequent hallucinations. I think that based on some of his stories, they would be very, very well explained if he just saw shit. 02:42:59 Speaker 4: This definitely never happened. He just saw a tall guy and flipped out. 02:43:03 Speaker 3: And he had a heart murmur. Yeah. His heart started beating really fast. So the rest of the, I mean, like, who cares? He talks to Jason Burmess for a little bit, but like, that's about it. This show is peaked. 02:43:17 Speaker 2: Yeah. 02:43:17 Speaker 4: It's not going to get better than Aliens. 02:43:19 Speaker 1: No. 02:43:20 Speaker 3: Or him talking about how Trump thinks he has a good ass. 02:43:23 Speaker 1: Yeah. 02:43:25 Speaker 3: But I thought, like, this is not complete. We're not going to be complete unless we check in and see how he's feeling the next day. 02:43:32 Speaker 5: Oh, sure. 02:43:33 Speaker 3: And so, like, obviously a lot of great guests. We had whiny dork James Fishbeck. We had horrible pastor Joel Webben. We had the honest pollster. 02:43:45 Speaker 4: Honest pollster. 02:43:48 Speaker 3: And I thought, like, who's he going to get to break down the midterms the next day? Do the post-mortem with, like, get the Rage and Cage and James Carville in here. Let's talk about, like, what the parties need to do. 02:44:00 Speaker 4: Sure. I assumed he was going to get hung over and be like, Harrison, it's your ship. 02:44:06 Speaker 3: Oh, no. He has way too big of a guest. 02:44:07 Speaker 4: Okay. 02:44:08 Speaker 2: All right. 02:44:09 Speaker 1: Jess Ellefson joins us here today, and we've got a bunch of other big guests coming up as well. Ellefson Jess, E-L-L-O-F-S-O-N, in South Dakota. Hello. welder, farmer, classic Ford collector, and 3D Classic Car Parts.com. He's done some great viral videos on this, but we talked about this months ago. 02:44:30 Speaker 2: We don't have any. 02:44:31 Speaker 1: Power as talk show hosts, but when Trump loses, it's our fault. But no, now Trump says he wasn't part of this, even though he says I'm on the ballot, basically. And so I don't really even care about the neocons, the Laura Loomers, the rest of them, except Trump now is going to try to take us to full war. I think what do you what do you make of that? And yet we did tell everybody. So so so what do you make of this? I agree with DeSantis. It's an extinction level event, but not just for Republicans, for Democrats in general, for the establishment. 02:45:04 Speaker 2: What do you see coming in the future, Jess? 02:45:06 Speaker 3: He has Jess Ellefson, the potter and ceramics and welder guy who was on Tucker's show. 02:45:14 Speaker 4: Is that who it is? Oh, my God. I'm like, it's like a car guy. I'm like, they got like click and clack on. Talk about that. 02:45:22 Speaker 3: No, it's the anti-Semitic guy who's Weld's stuff who was on Tucker's show. Alex is still talking to that guy? 02:45:29 Speaker 4: Oh my God, fuck that guy. That guy is zero. 02:45:33 Speaker 3: But his check must have cleared. 02:45:35 Speaker 4: Yeah. 02:45:37 Speaker 2: Wow. 02:45:37 Speaker 4: He does seem to be on the rise. I don't know why. 02:45:40 Speaker 3: I don't think he is. I think it's a scathing indictment of Alex's booking practices that this guy is still someone he has on. Like that might've been, okay, fine. You're Ron Tucker. We'll talk once. 02:45:52 Speaker 2: Yeah. 02:45:53 Speaker 3: This is months later. 02:45:54 Speaker 4: Yeah. 02:45:56 Speaker 3: Anyway, here is what Jess Ellefson has to say about the midterms. 02:46:00 Speaker 6: Nobody was good at motorboat and titties their first time. But you stuck with it. 02:46:05 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. 02:46:05 Speaker 3: And you got better. 02:46:06 Speaker 6: Yeah. 02:46:07 Speaker 4: Yeah. 02:46:09 Speaker 2: All right. 02:46:09 Speaker 3: I don't care. I heard that Alex had Jess on and I just turned it off. I don't care what this guy has to say about the midterms. 02:46:17 Speaker 4: God, he is nobody. 02:46:19 Speaker 3: Yeah. 02:46:19 Speaker 2: Yeah. 02:46:20 Speaker 3: But makes decent pots or something. Sure. 02:46:24 Speaker 4: I suppose. 02:46:25 Speaker 3: Yeah. 02:46:25 Speaker 4: I did see a comment, I think in the Reddit, that was from a pottery person. They're like, they're not good. 02:46:33 Speaker 3: I can't

say that. This other person can't. If they're in the biz and they create art, they can say that. I have no leg to stand on. I couldn't work a kiln. 02:46:42 Speaker 4: I enjoy that a potter stepped and went, no. He's not even good at that. It's pretty middling. 02:46:48 Speaker 3: I should get into ceramics. because I'm a very hirsute man, and then I could be a Harry Potter. 02:46:55 Speaker 4: Oh my god, stop it. You're fired. 02:46:58 Speaker 3: Listen, we're coming up on three hours. 02:47:04 Speaker 4: You gotta go. 02:47:06 Speaker 3: These puns, they just happen. 02:47:08 Speaker 4: Oh my god. 02:47:09 Speaker 3: So Adrian, how do you feel, now having taken in the experience of Alex's midterm coverage, his stream, do you feel edified? Do you feel like you've your position on politics has evolved? 02:47:25 Speaker 4: I feel a little nauseous. 02:47:26 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's normal. 02:47:30 Speaker 4: The anticipation of what's coming next is so frightening. 02:47:34 Speaker 3: It's stressful. 02:47:35 Speaker 4: It is stressful. Yeah. it reminds me of, uh, I used to teach twang dancing and we didn't do a lot of like aerials, like rethrow people and stuff, but we were, you know, coming up on like performances and stuff. We're like, well, we'll step up our game. And so we went to a gym, like a gymnastics gym with like a, uh, spring floor, a lot of mats. And we were, um, practicing these like throws. And my partner kept just picking me up and slamming me into the ground, like WWE style. Like, Just wham. And I was like, oh, okay. And I get up and I do it again. And he would slam me into the ground again. And after like five times, I could no longer will my body to run into pain. It would like, I lost control of it. It would just hesitate and be like, don't do this. 02:48:31 Speaker 3: And that's how you feel every time I'm about to play a clip. 02:48:34 Speaker 5: Yes. 02:48:37 Speaker 4: Like it increases every clip where you're like, oh, oh no. 02:48:41 Speaker 3: Oh, this is bad. My body remembers what this is going to feel like. 02:48:47 Speaker 4: It's going to be a mistake. 02:48:50 Speaker 3: Here's what I would say about this experience that you're describing. That is probably difficult as training for swing dancing. 02:48:57 Speaker 1: Yeah. 02:48:58 Speaker 3: But that's amazing practice for the game. Yes, that's true. That you played that was very physically violent. 02:49:07 Speaker 4: Yeah. 02:49:07 Speaker 3: So they were kind of doing you a favor and toughening you up for the game. 02:49:11 Speaker 4: That's true. I am pretty thickly calloused these days. And I was surprised that any clip could upset me. But there are several in there where I'm like, oh, they're just saying it now. They're not even pretending. 02:49:26 Speaker 3: Some of them are, I don't, it's hard for me to say all time are bad. But they feel like they're as bad as anything that I've ever seen on the show. Yeah. 02:49:37 Speaker 4: I do appreciate when they're honest about it. Because then you can have an actual conversation. 02:49:42 Speaker 3: Yeah, not with them. 02:49:44 Speaker 5: No. 02:49:44 Speaker 3: But you can have an actual conversation about what they're saying as opposed to the tricks and the things that they're hiding behind. 02:49:50 Speaker 4: It's a lot harder to convince somebody of the little lies that get you to where they want you to be. 02:49:57 Speaker 5: Yeah. 02:49:57 Speaker 3: Yeah. 02:49:58 Speaker 4: Uh, if they just show that end, it's like Scientology. Like if they show you the Xenu at the beginning, you're not gonna get down the road. You have to have like the little stages to get there. All the little yeses that get you to that conversion point. 02:50:13 Speaker 3: Yeah. Like if Joel Webben had been around, uh, 10 years ago and been like, I would like women not to vote and I want, uh, God, uh, to rule America. People would not have, there would not be anyone interested. 02:50:26 Speaker 5: Yeah. 02:50:27 Speaker 3: Um, Yeah, it sucks. It sucks, but these kinds of conversations are now more prevalent, and apparently tickets are still available for that conference. I am sorry that I kept dropping you and slamming you into the ground. 02:50:51 Speaker 4: Anytime, Dan. 02:50:52 Speaker 3: Wonderful. It was a delight to have you. Is there anywhere you'd like to direct people to? 02:50:59 Speaker 4: I still have AngelaLampsberry.com up. 02:51:01 Speaker 3: There's some great designs on there. 02:51:04 Speaker 4: Yeah, so there's still a store there. If you know of a full-time remote design or art direction job, can I just beg for a job? 02:51:16 Speaker 3: In this economy? Yes. 02:51:19 Speaker 4: I will use whatever I can. You do great work. 02:51:24 Speaker 3: And if someone would be lucky to, if they have a position to... slot you in there. 02:51:28 Speaker 4: Thank you. But I am looking for a full-time remote job for a senior art director, senior graphic designer, something in that market. 02:51:38 Speaker 3: Well, fingers crossed. 02:51:40 Speaker 4: I'm out here. 02:51:41 Speaker 3: All right. She's out on those streets. Yep. I still don't really have a sign-off. And this is a bonus episode, too, so there's something about a bonus barrel that I should have in the sign-off, but I... Ah! I normally end the episodes just by saying banana. 02:51:56 Speaker 4: Uh-huh. But. 02:51:57 Speaker 3: Because we're in a bonus barrel, I'm going to say Kremkoin. 02:52:27 Speaker 1: Music.