Full Transcript for #87: Mark Richards Revisited

right. Something has happened. 00:02:12 Speaker 1: Perfect. You nailed it. 00:02:14 Speaker 2: My investigation into 2015 has hit a little bit of a snag. Yes. In that I am losing interest in it. 00:02:20 Speaker 4: Yeah. 00:02:21 Speaker 1: We've been doing it a long time. 00:02:22 Speaker 2: We have. It's gone on too long and it's getting to the point where in November of 2015, it's just boring. It's getting to a point where episodes are very repetitive. 00:02:34 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:02:34 Speaker 2: And Alex is in a holding pattern and I need to find something that really matters that we can cover. And at this point I'm just, I'm not hitting it. 00:02:43 Speaker 4: And so maybe that's another huge part of the, you know, it's Russia, it's propaganda. It's that he's a white supremacist, but also there's nothing interesting else for him. 00:02:54 Speaker 1: To talk about really. 00:02:55 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:02:55 Speaker 1: Cause like he has to take an angle on the election. 00:02:58 Speaker 2: Spoiler alert, like right at where we are in the investigation is right when, uh, The Bala clan attack happens in France. 00:03:07 Speaker 4: Yes. 00:03:07 Speaker 2: So he sends Paul Joseph Watson and Joe Biggs to France. 00:03:12 Speaker 1: And they don't belong anywhere near France. 00:03:15 Speaker 2: They do these like these reports where they're like in France and they're saying weird stuff and then they don't prove it. Right. Like they go to Belgium and it's like. 00:03:25 Speaker 1: The Eiffel Tower is made of candy. 00:03:27 Speaker 2: Prove it. Lick it. They're like but they go to. They go to Belgium and apparently enter like a Muslim no-go area for white people. Oh, my God. And they don't have video of it. They just say that they went there. And then in a real funny thing, Alex is like, Paul, you've got to go back and get video. You have to go back. And just get video. And Paul Joseph Watson's like, nope. 00:03:53 Speaker 1: It's great. 00:03:54 Speaker 2: So then Joe Biggs is saying that he's being followed around by a van of Muslims. And it's like, I don't believe you. You've done this before. You said that the cartel was chasing you in South Texas. And if that was happening, you wouldn't be back. 00:04:05 Speaker 1: No, you would not have a head or hands anymore. 00:04:08 Speaker 2: Right. And the same thing is true of like, if there are Muslim no-go areas where you're threatened for going just because you're white, And you're going around and you're being journalistic and then a bunch of these Muslim gangsters, as they would say, start following you around. You're not going to just be like, you're either going to get fucking footage of them following you around or they're going to attack you. Right. And at no point does that happen. 00:04:34 Speaker 4: He just watched Gangs of New York and was like, I bet this would work over here. 00:04:38 Speaker 2: It's just horse shit, and it's the most predictable thing. And the coverage of it is disgraceful, but it's also boring at the same time. 00:04:46 Speaker 1: Right. 00:04:46 Speaker 2: So, like, we could do a whole episode about his coverage of... The France attacks. But most of it is, hey, look, I sent Joe Biggs to France. We're a legitimate news outlet. 00:04:56 Speaker 4: Right. 00:04:57 Speaker 2: And give us. 00:04:58 Speaker 1: I'm not. I don't mean to brag. 00:04:59 Speaker 2: And give me money. It's expensive to spend. Send people to France. Yeah. When they're not doing shit. They're on vacation. 00:05:04 Speaker 1: It's not that expensive either. It's not. 00:05:06 Speaker 2: It's a couple hundred bucks. 00:05:07 Speaker 5: Yeah. 00:05:07 Speaker 2: But be that as it may, it just it sucks. 00:05:11 Speaker 1: I mean, they probably got an Airbnb. 00:05:12 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:05:13 Speaker 4: Yeah. 00:05:13 Speaker 1: Sleeping in the same bed. Yeah. 00:05:15 Speaker 2: And so after that, a little bit after that is the San Bernardino attack. 00:05:19 Speaker 1: Yes. 00:05:19 Speaker 2: And, I mean, it's just the same thing. 00:05:21 Speaker 1: Just Muslim baiting. 00:05:22 Speaker 2: Muslim baiting. And it's on this, it's just becoming a cycle for him of, like, him trying to, like, we gotta talk to friends of these people. Yeah. It's like, you didn't want to talk to friends of Dylann Roof. Like, it's just very clear what's going on. It's just, it bores me. And it's not productive to... our exploration of why he signed up with Trump outside of like, okay, maybe his fear of Muslims had a part in him joining up with Trump. But at the same time, we've already decided that. It's not like us going through this over and over and over again and ruining the entertainment value of our show is really worth it. 00:06:04 Speaker 4: But see, that's what I'm saying. Maybe another factor in that is He's bored. 00:06:09 Speaker 1: Yeah. Buckley. In the same way that we're bored. 00:06:11 Speaker 2: Buckley pulled a sign and was like, you got to fucking fix this up. 00:06:13 Speaker 4: I mean, then you start screaming 1776 2.0 and all of a sudden, wow, now we got some spice in this. 00:06:19 Speaker 2: Right. And where we are in the investigation is like maybe two, three weeks from when Trump ends up being on the show. 00:06:26 Speaker 4: Yeah. 00:06:27 Speaker 2: And so what I might do is fast forward to when Trump is on the show. Right. And pick up from there and see what happens. We'll talk a little bit about that. Yeah. 00:06:33 Speaker 1: Although I just don't ever want to hear his voice again. 00:06:36 Speaker 2: I don't care. You might have to. You've got to pay the cost to be the boss. 00:06:39 Speaker 1: Fair. 00:06:40 Speaker 2: As they say. 00:06:40 Speaker 4: Yeah. 00:06:41 Speaker 2: As Snoop Dogg says. 00:06:42 Speaker 5: Yeah. 00:06:42 Speaker 2: So, Jordan, we have to do an episode. I mean, that's a bad way to put it. We love to do an episode. Yeah. But I don't want to do that investigation stuff, so here is an out-of-context

drop of what we're talking about today. 00:06:54 Speaker 5: He said that they will kill for anything they want, including chocolate. 00:07:00 Speaker 2: No! Yes! Yeah! So. 00:07:05 Speaker 1: Including chocolate? Yes. They're going to kill for anything? 00:07:09 Speaker 2: Yep. 00:07:09 Speaker 1: God damn you, Dan. 00:07:11 Speaker 2: I love you. The Raptors will kill you for chocolate. 00:07:13 Speaker 1: Oh, we're back in Raptor territory? Fuck, yes. All right. 00:07:18 Speaker 2: It turns out, as we're recording this, it's Saturday the 23rd of September 2017. Yeah. Three days ago. This is a victory cigarette, by the way. Three days ago, Carrie Cassidy posted an update. About Captain Mark Richards. No shit. 00:07:36 Speaker 1: Yes. No shit. 00:07:37 Speaker 2: She went back to the prison. 00:07:38 Speaker 1: Did she listen to our show? 00:07:39 Speaker 2: She might have. She went back to the prison and had a seventh interview with him. 00:07:43 Speaker 1: Okay. 00:07:44 Speaker 2: And she posted the results of that interview. And we got a lot to go over. 00:07:48 Speaker 1: Fuck yeah. 00:07:49 Speaker 2: We got a lot of new information. Fuck yeah. About Mark Richards. 00:07:51 Speaker 1: Weigh in. Weigh in. 00:07:53 Speaker 2: So, for those of you who haven't listened to all of our episodes, we sometimes, when we can't take Alex Jones anymore, we have to drift into the fun world of Project Camelot. which is a website and video series of interviews run by Carrie Cassidy, where she sits down with legitimately insane people who lie to her. And that's basically it. They lie to her about secret space programs. Right. And by all. 00:08:19 Speaker 4: That I have heard, she is such a sweet lady and believes all of this shit with her whole heart. 00:08:27 Speaker 2: She seems nice. 00:08:28 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:08:29 Speaker 2: Yeah. So if you didn't hear the episode that's prelude to this. Right. Captain Mark Richards, as Carrie calls him, is a gentleman who is a part of the secret space program. He was inducted because his dad, the Dutchman. 00:08:43 Speaker 4: Just recapping this makes me feel so good. 00:08:48 Speaker 2: He saved the world from destruction for 50 years. And then his son went to prison. because he was framed for a murder he did not commit, though in the real. 00:08:57 Speaker 1: World, he totally did it. He did all of that shit. 00:09:00 Speaker 2: Well, he didn't do it himself, but he had a couple of teens that were under his influence, that were under his sway, and he got this teen who was working in his construction crew to murder a guy who owed him money. 00:09:13 Speaker 1: Again, listen to the Dollop episode about Mark Richard. 00:09:15 Speaker 2: It's amazing. It's called The Pendragon, if you want to find it more easily. Oh, also, I want to give a shout-out. We talked about this on one episode. And then in the next episode after that, we talked about how Alex Jones was wrong about the guy who played Crocodile, or the real Crocodile Dundee. 00:09:31 Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:09:32 Speaker 2: And it was brought to my attention that there's a dollop about that guy, too. 00:09:35 Speaker 1: Oh, of course. Of course. 00:09:37 Speaker 2: So check that out, too. Right. And just listen to the dollop. It's a great fucking podcast. Anyway. Very good. Anyway. 00:09:42 Speaker 4: I don't think anybody has heard about the dollop who listens to us. 00:09:45 Speaker 2: Oh, no, we got a tweet from our friend Chris. 00:09:48 Speaker 1: Oh, really? 00:09:48 Speaker 2: That said we turned him on to the dollop. 00:09:50 Speaker 1: So good. 00:09:50 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's great. Yeah. So, I mean, hey, look. We're big fans. They're much bigger than us. They could turn people on to us, maybe. Anyway, who cares? 00:09:57 Speaker 1: All right. 00:09:59 Speaker 3: What'd you say all right oh i thought you said all that so mark richards definitely is responsible for the death of this guy and he's been in prison for 30 years he has a wife named joanne richards who goes out on the ufo circuit and repeats the lies that he tells her as his narrative about the secret space program and how he's friends with an alien race called the Raptors, who. 00:10:23 Speaker 2: Are allegedly good at doing war with the Reptoids and Reptilians. 00:10:27 Speaker 4: Though, since he is actually evil, I believe that the Raptors are evil and the Reptoids are good. 00:10:33 Speaker 2: It's difficult to say. 00:10:35 Speaker 1: Upside down. 00:10:35 Speaker 2: I will say that based on our out-of-context drop, if the Raptors are going to kill you for chocolate, they're not good guys. 00:10:41 Speaker 1: They're not good guys. 00:10:42 Speaker 2: Because it's very available. 00:10:43 Speaker 4: Yeah. 00:10:43 Speaker 2: Chocolate is all over the place. 00:10:45 Speaker 1: Yeah, of course. 00:10:45 Speaker 2: Although, while we're on the topic of chocolate, I need to give a real... Serious fuck you to M & M' s. 00:10:53 Speaker 4: You were texting me about M & M' s last night. 00:10:56 Speaker 1: I was. Apparently white chocolate ain't the way to go. 00:10:58 Speaker 2: No. I love novelty stuff, like limited time only candies and stuff like that. And so whenever M & M' s come out with something, I get excited. Because the caramel M & M' s are great. Pretzel M & M' s, when they first came around, were hot fire. They're still good. Peanut butter M & M' s are great. Of course, the classic peanut, but that's never going away. 00:11:18 Speaker 1: Of course, no. It's perfect. It's a perfect snack. 00:11:20 Speaker 2: And so I get excited whenever Eminem is like, check this out. 00:11:24 Speaker 1: Whenever Eminem is like, check this out? He did drop a new track. 00:11:27 Speaker 2: No, come on now. 00:11:28 Speaker 1: All right. 00:11:29 Speaker 2: But whenever they... All right. All right. Whenever something new from Eminem's comes out, I'm like, I'm going to have to do this. Right. So lately, they've really been

fucking it up. Like strawberry nut. 00:11:44 Speaker 1: Those were disgusting. I tried those. Horrific. 00:11:46 Speaker 2: It was a disaster. 00:11:47 Speaker 5: Yeah. 00:11:47 Speaker 1: What is this, Japan? What are you putting tea in my M & M' s? Come on now. 00:11:51 Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of those weird flavored. 00:11:53 Speaker 1: Ones with nuts are a disaster. Although I would love a mochi flavored M & M. That'd be good. 00:11:56 Speaker 2: Listen, my point is that the white chocolate one is an unmitigated train wreck and I do not recommend it. And if a fucking raptor killed me for them, I would be like. 00:12:04 Speaker 1: Oh, that's our new novelty beverage. 00:12:06 Speaker 4: We're two guys who like to sit around and talk about Alex Jones and eat novelty M & Ms. 00:12:10 Speaker 2: I feel like that would come into us chewing on mics a little bit. 00:12:13 Speaker 1: Disgusting. 00:12:14 Speaker 2: Yeah, so let's not go down that road just yet. But. 00:12:17 Speaker 1: When we run out of beverages. 00:12:19 Speaker 2: Let's go down this other road, which is Carrie Cassidy. 00:12:23 Speaker 1: Dan, I love you. 00:12:26 Speaker 2: Just giving us some updates about her seventh visit to Mark Richards in prison. Here is her introduction to... the video. 00:12:34 Speaker 5: Hi, everyone. I'm Carrie Cassidy from Project Camelot. 00:12:37 Speaker 2: Yeah, you are. 00:12:38 Speaker 5: Today, I'm going to be giving you my total recall verbally of the kind of information I got from Mark Richards. So this is a prisoner that I go and interview in Vacaville, California. And he's at a prison there. And he has been framed for a murder he didn't commit. He's what we call a political prisoner. 00:13:00 Speaker 2: Just like Erwin Schiff. 00:13:01 Speaker 5: His name is Captain Mark Richards. And he's worked in the secret space program along with his father and grandfather. So he is a third generation, I guess you might say. 00:13:11 Speaker 2: You might, if you are lying. 00:13:14 Speaker 1: Earth defense royalty, so to speak. 00:13:16 Speaker 2: Absolutely. He's a legacy. 00:13:17 Speaker 1: Absolutely. 00:13:18 Speaker 2: You could get into Harvard with that pedigree. Not Harvard. 00:13:20 Speaker 3: No. 00:13:21 Speaker 1: No. MIT, of course. 00:13:23 Speaker 2: He's been in prison since he was 29. Because that's around when the murder happened. 00:13:27 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:13:27 Speaker 2: The Pendragon murder. And also, we left off the part where he also wanted to take over Marin County, California. 00:13:33 Speaker 1: Yes, he did. 00:13:34 Speaker 4: He had a plan to blow up the Golden. 00:13:37 Speaker 2: Gate Bridge and another bridge and have laser weapons. So he's great. God. So I feel at this point, before we get into the meat of what he lied to Carrie about this time, I feel the need to defend ourselves for like, why is this relevant to our podcast? Why is it? You know, we need to take breaks from Alex. That's understood. Why do you go to Project Camelot? Here are some of the reasons that I have. One, there's a very high overlap in guests. There are a bunch of people who go on Alex Jones who are also on Project Camelot. 00:14:16 Speaker 1: Alexander Dugan believes in Repters. 00:14:18 Speaker 2: He probably does. 00:14:18 Speaker 1: I'm sure he does. 00:14:19 Speaker 2: You have people like Leo Zagami. He's on both. 00:14:22 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:14:22 Speaker 2: You have people like, I can't remember his name now, but that guy who went on Alex's show and talked about Robert David Steele. 00:14:28 Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Now he talks about Mars bases. Yeah. 00:14:31 Speaker 2: You have, being on both of them, David Icke. 00:14:34 Speaker 1: How about Stubblebind? 00:14:35 Speaker 2: I bet he's been on there. I haven't looked through all of their archives. Oh, man, I bet he has. $ 30 for anti-vax cards. You see a lot of similar faces between the two. Jordan Maxwell is another conspiracy theory guy. He's into aliens and shit. He's been on both. You just see a lot of overlap. And the reason for that is because they're all con men. They're all con people. And in the case of Carrie Cassidy, I mostly believe that she's innocent of. 00:15:04 Speaker 4: Yeah, unlike Alex, who is deliberately inciting white supremacists to violence, Carrie is just like, the world is a fantastic and magical place, and I just wish more people knew that there was this secret battle for the. 00:15:21 Speaker 1: Soul of humanity going on. 00:15:23 Speaker 2: Because part and parcel of that in her mind is that there are friendly alien races. 00:15:27 Speaker 1: Yeah, of course. 00:15:27 Speaker 2: That can help us and bring us to the next level of evolution. 00:15:30 Speaker 1: The 11th dimension or whatever. Yeah, absolutely. 00:15:33 Speaker 2: So I think that she is a, I think she's an acid casualty, quite frankly. I think she's a burnout. 00:15:39 Speaker 1: Oh, that's entirely possible. 00:15:40 Speaker 2: I'm guessing that in the 70s she did a lot of drugs and now doesn't know what direction is up. Right. And she's a sweet person and believes all this nonsense that people who are con men are telling her. 00:15:52 Speaker 5: Right. 00:15:53 Speaker 1: Especially Mark Richards. 00:15:55 Speaker 2: Alex, on the other hand, is willfully a piece of it, which is why our show is more about Alex, because he's a monster, whereas Carrie is just, come on now. 00:16:03 Speaker 4: It is a fascinating, like, it is the same thing. 00:16:12 Speaker 1: It really is. 00:16:13 Speaker 4: And yet, there is a benign element to Carrie. Like, she is a hopeful person. 00:16:23 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:16:24 Speaker 4: Like, she believes that the world could be and will be a better place the more people know about this. 00:16:31 Speaker 2: Yeah, and once you have... And, of course, once the wars on Mars end. Yeah. 00:16:37 Speaker 4: She's really mad at the wars on Mars, less so about Afghanistan. 00:16:41 Speaker 2: I'm not

sure I can flash this up on screen, but she has a link on her website to a GoFundMe campaign for a guy named Pete Peterson. who's allegedly a whistleblower of some sort. And he's raised $ 53, 000 in a month because he claims to have secret information about all kinds of secret military projects. He did an interview with a guy named David Wilcock, and that's what has given tons of steam to this. And you scroll down this GoFundMe, you see all proceeds will go directly to Pete Peterson via David Wilcock. 00:17:20 Speaker 1: Oh, no. 00:17:21 Speaker 2: And that should give you some cause for concern. 00:17:23 Speaker 1: Do you know what's crazy? 00:17:25 Speaker 4: We actually do have secret information, or at least public. 00:17:30 Speaker 1: Information that nobody's paying attention to. 00:17:31 Speaker 2: You and I don't. 00:17:32 Speaker 1: No, I mean about all the crimes. All the crimes. 00:17:35 Speaker 2: Oh, about Larry Nichols' crimes? 00:17:37 Speaker 1: Yeah, all of the shit that we've talked about. 00:17:39 Speaker 5: Yeah. 00:17:39 Speaker 1: All of the. 00:17:40 Speaker 2: No one cares. 00:17:40 Speaker 4: All of the support that Alex gives to white supremacy that nobody is talking about, and yet we can't get $ 53, 000 on a GoFundMe. 00:17:48 Speaker 2: No, and I appreciate everybody who does donate. 00:17:50 Speaker 1: Absolutely. And if you would like to donate... You guys are fucking heroes. 00:17:53 Speaker 2: If you'd like to donate, you can go to knowledgefight.com, click support the show. Absolutely. Become a policy wonk. 00:17:57 Speaker 3: But. 00:17:58 Speaker 2: Look, the reason that I bring that up as relevant is that David Wilcock is a fucking huge con man. Uh-huh. And he's running a con with this guy who's an alleged whistleblower and has raised $ 53, 000 in a month. This is the game that these guys are playing. Right. And they're using Carrie Cassidy to do it. Right. Because she, for whatever reason, has built up quite an audience with this Project Camelot stuff. Because she interviews people unquestioningly about sensational topics. So... I mean, David Wilcox. Do you know anything about David Wilcox? 00:18:27 Speaker 1: I do not. 00:18:28 Speaker 2: Okay, so there's a psychic named Edgar Cayce back in the day. He was called the sleeping. 00:18:33 Speaker 1: All right. All right, I'm down. 00:18:35 Speaker 2: He was called the sleeping psychic. Okay. 00:18:37 Speaker 1: Oh, he's one of those guys. 00:18:39 Speaker 2: Yes. 00:18:39 Speaker 1: Like automatic writing and that kind of thing? More or less. 00:18:41 Speaker 4: Yeah. 00:18:41 Speaker 2: He would go to sleep, allegedly, and give people psychic readings. And there was a lot of stuff about people having past lives in Atlantis. 00:18:49 Speaker 1: Of course. 00:18:50 Speaker 2: And then beyond that, there was also a bunch of, you'd diagnose people's medical conditions while he was asleep. 00:18:56 Speaker 1: That's not great. That's not great. I don't like that. 00:18:59 Speaker 2: I don't know if we can really fully figure out how accurate he was, but it is interesting because all of his shit was recorded. Not like audio recorded, but there's transcripts of everything he did. And so you can go online if you want to spend a fucking month reading the sleepy dude talking. But he died, and David Wilcock came around. And said that he was the reincarnated spirit of. 00:19:25 Speaker 1: Oh, I knew it! 00:19:26 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:19:26 Speaker 1: I knew it! 00:19:27 Speaker 2: He's Edgar Cayce reincarnated. 00:19:29 Speaker 1: God damn it! What a great, dumb con! 00:19:32 Speaker 2: And a lot of people are like, oh, of course you are. 00:19:34 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, naturally. 00:19:36 Speaker 2: Yeah. He's just someone who I've looked into a bit in the past and been like, holy shit, this guy. Yeah. So he's running this Kickstarter GoFundMe for this other guy who has been on Project Camelot. who Carrie has put up a link to on the site. It's just all elaborate fraud that's being done. And that is relevant to Alex in at least some sense because I believe that this podcast, while it is primarily anti-fascism, anti-white supremacy... Anti-capitalism at this point. 00:20:11 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:20:12 Speaker 2: All of these things. And anti-Alex Jones and what he stands for. 00:20:16 Speaker 1: And if you want to add what I'm anti towards, boy, gets wild. 00:20:19 Speaker 2: But I mean the show itself, not you personally. Yeah, yeah. But we're anti-globalism. 00:20:25 Speaker 1: Absolutely. 00:20:26 Speaker 2: So we're against all of that. 00:20:27 Speaker 1: In a certain sense. Not in the Alex Jones sense. 00:20:30 Speaker 2: The bigger sense, too, we're against con men. We're against fraud that appears largely in the right wing. Because a lot of these other people are also pretty right-wing. 00:20:42 Speaker 1: You have to be dumb to be in the right wing. 00:20:44 Speaker 2: Even though they're crazy and want to tell you all about aliens, they're also pretty right-wing. 00:20:48 Speaker 1: Obama is evil. 00:20:50 Speaker 2: Right. 00:20:51 Speaker 1: That's kind of the unifying field theory behind a lot of these people. 00:20:54 Speaker 2: Not a lot of the Project Camelot people. A lot of it predates Obama, too. 00:20:59 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. I'm guessing that a black president didn't excite them too much. 00:21:03 Speaker 2: Didn't inspire confidence. Nah. So let's get into it. And in this first clip... Carrie Cassidy has some words about her interview with Mark Richards that have to do with what he thinks about Hillary. 00:21:16 Speaker 1: Oh, boy. 00:21:17 Speaker 5: We talked about Hillary Clinton. He's a fan. He thought the real reason Trump won was because no one really liked Hillary. 00:21:25 Speaker 1: That's actually really smart. 00:21:26 Speaker 5: He said she's not trusted. He acknowledged she does report to Bush Sr. and also is supported by Soros. But he does not think she's MJ-12, which is

contrary to some other information I have been given about her. So that was interesting. And I have been told that MJ-12, which goes by many names, that she is quite high on the sort of totem pole and is quite in the know about that information. He does not feel she's quite as read in as I do. So for what that's worth, and then also says that he thinks there are a lot of John Wayne types in the military that don't like her, partially because of her, what he says, black magic, drug running with her husband, Bill Clinton, and the pedophilia issue. He thinks that she's evil and has failed trust issues. He also thinks that she is backed by the black magic witch cults, as he called them, and the European Illuminati. 00:22:38 Speaker 1: That's straight InfoWars right there. I bet he listens to InfoWars. 00:22:42 Speaker 2: That's another thing that makes this very relevant, is that they are spouting very similar rhetoric. 00:22:48 Speaker 1: Yeah, Mark Richards is an InfoWarrior, for sure. 00:22:52 Speaker 2: I hope you don't get InfoWars in prison. I hope. 00:22:54 Speaker 1: I bet you do. 00:22:55 Speaker 2: But, like. 00:22:57 Speaker 2: You know, she brings up Soros as a bad thing. She's backed by Soros. 00:23:02 Speaker 1: Or at least Mark Richards does. 00:23:03 Speaker 2: The narrative of the police and military are more woken up is... That's straight out of Alex. 00:23:10 Speaker 1: John Wayne types. 00:23:11 Speaker 2: John Wayne types. 00:23:12 Speaker 1: Masculine types. 00:23:13 Speaker 2: Hillary Clinton is a witch. That's Larry Nichols shit. 00:23:16 Speaker 1: Yep. 00:23:16 Speaker 2: That he spits on InfoWars. 00:23:18 Speaker 1: Black magic. 00:23:18 Speaker 2: Pedophilia. InfoWars all the way. Absolutely. 00:23:22 Speaker 1: Globalists. 00:23:23 Speaker 2: So that, like, fucking world that we dwell in with Alex Jones is creeped in now to our fun oasis. 00:23:30 Speaker 4: Yeah! 00:23:31 Speaker 2: But thankfully, that's the only place where they talk about Hillary. But I needed to bring that in because... I mean, it is. Crazy is crazy. 00:23:38 Speaker 1: Again, overlap. 00:23:39 Speaker 2: Right. But Alex would agree with these things. 00:23:43 Speaker 1: What is MJ-12? Is she going to explain that? 00:23:45 Speaker 2: She's not, but I can. 00:23:46 Speaker 1: I knew you could. 00:23:47 Speaker 2: It's the Majestic-12. I'll just read you here. In UFO conspiracy theories, Majestic-12, or MJ-12, is a codename of an alleged secret committee of scientists, military leaders, and government officials. 00:23:59 Speaker 1: That is a bad... If it's Majestic 12, you're MJ-12? 00:24:05 Speaker 2: No. 00:24:06 Speaker 1: Don't like it. Don't like it. Grammatically incorrect, Dan. 00:24:09 Speaker 2: It was allegedly formed in 1947 by an executive order by U.S. President Harry S. Truman to facilitate recovery investigation of alien spacecraft. The concept originated in a series of supposedly leaked secret government documents first circulated by

UFOlogists in 1984. Upon examination, the Federal Bureau of Investigation declared the documents to be, quote, completely bogus. And many ufologists consider them to be an elaborate hoax. So that's what it is. It's a fake organization. 00:24:37 Speaker 5: Yeah. 00:24:38 Speaker 4: Yeah. 00:24:39 Speaker 2: But it's fun. 00:24:40 Speaker 1: And 1947 was Roswell, right? 00:24:42 Speaker 2: I believe so. 00:24:43 Speaker 1: Truman was the Roswell guy. 00:24:45 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:24:46 Speaker 4: According to a perfect Futurama episode. 00:24:50 Speaker 2: Some people have actually done some interesting theorizing about these documents that came out. Uh-huh. And one of the things that this guy, I'll read this here. Scientific skeptic author Brian Dunning investigated the history of the subject and reported his findings in the 2016 Skeptoid podcast episode, The Secret History of the Majestic Twelve. He concluded that rather than a hoax perpetrated by the UFO community, it's likely the papers were actually part of a disinformation campaign of the U.S. government meant to deflect attention from secret Air Force projects. Referring to the MJ-12 documents, Dunning states, quote, They were classic disinformations. False documents created to play a role in real national security. They were designed and written for specific marks who did with them exactly as they were meant to do. They took advantage of well-meaning patriots who wanted enhanced national security and who, by being easy to fool, ended up providing exactly that. 00:25:47 Speaker 4: Boy, pretty easy to do all this shit, right? It's not as hard as you would hope. 00:25:53 Speaker 2: So the theory is that these supposedly... Classified leaked documents were fake, but they were released by the U.S. government in order to get people to start being paranoid. 00:26:03 Speaker 1: Instead of PEZ dispensers, they're UFO dispensers. 00:26:05 Speaker 2: Yeah, basically. But whatever the case is, it's not a real organization. Of course not. So it's batty. 00:26:13 Speaker 1: MG12 sounds like a really good movie theater, though. I would go to the MJ12. 00:26:16 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:26:17 Speaker 1: Probably buy booze there. 00:26:18 Speaker 2: I like to keep my movie theaters eight screens or less. I like small theaters. Anyway. 00:26:25 Speaker 1: A little bit of personal information about Dan. 00:26:27 Speaker 2: I spent like five years of my life working at the Forum 8 movie theater in Columbia, Missouri. And so that's my top. Eight is where I top out. 00:26:35 Speaker 1: Eight is enough. 00:26:36 Speaker 2: Eight is enough. In this next clip, if you'll recall, on our last time we visited Captain Mark Richards. 00:26:43 Speaker 1: Last time on The Dutchman. 00:26:46 Speaker 2: The Dutchman's Son. 00:26:47 Speaker 5: Yes. 00:26:47 Speaker 1: Well, but the show would be called The Dutchman. 00:26:49 Speaker 2: No, it would be The Dutchman's Son. Okay. Okay. I insist on that. 00:26:53 Speaker 1: Like the time traveler's wife? 00:26:54 Speaker 2: Exactly. So we heard about his artificially intelligent spacecraft Minerva. 00:27:00 Speaker 1: Yes. How is she doing? 00:27:02 Speaker 2: I don't know. We don't know. 00:27:03 Speaker 1: We don't hear from her? 00:27:04 Speaker 2: We don't necessarily know, but we do learn a little bit more about Minerva on this episode, and here is that. 00:27:10 Speaker 5: He said there was an average crew of nine, but I'm not sure what ship that was for. I'm afraid I didn't get that down in my notes, unfortunately. 00:27:19 Speaker 2: Should have asked. 00:27:21 Speaker 5: He did say with Minerva, she doesn't like crew besides Mark. So in general, when he flew Minerva, uh, it would only be her and, um, him and, and it would only be Mark and one other person. Uh, but she does take groups of zoo animals on board for study and she can morph her interior to make room for hundreds of animals. She acts as his translator when he is, um, traveling, flying her and going to other planets in other systems. The furthest he's gone interstellar, he says, was with a companion named Glassy, which is out around the Alpha Centauri system. I asked him about interstellar travel to other planets and the beings he's met. He said he has traveled to the three stars of Alpha Centauri. has met 20 different species. He said there are four different ant colonies in the Orion constellation. 00:28:27 Speaker 1: Ant colonies? 00:28:27 Speaker 5: However, that when he's traveling, Minerva is very protective, often won't let him leave the ship due to dangerous conditions, and she treats humans a little like pets or children. He also said not all wormholes are the same. I didn't actually get an elaboration on that. 00:28:46 Speaker 1: Hashtag not all wormholes. 00:28:47 Speaker 5: I should have, and Hopefully will in the future. 00:28:50 Speaker 2: So another thing she did not ask a follow-up question on. I actually, for a second, I thought she was talking about Freddie Blassie. Maybe the pro wrestler. 00:29:00 Speaker 1: Right, right. Sure you did. Sure you did. Of course. 00:29:03 Speaker 2: It could have been his companion. Yeah, who knows? All right. 00:29:07 Speaker 1: Where's Blassie now? 00:29:08 Speaker 2: I'd love to talk to him. 00:29:09 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:29:10 Speaker 2: Get him on fucking Project Camelot. 00:29:12 Speaker 1: Get him on this show. 00:29:13 Speaker 2: They're all dead. They've got to be. That's the other thing. If any of this was real, this fucking dude would be dead, right? 00:29:20 Speaker 1: Of course. Of course. 00:29:21 Speaker 2: He's in a prison. 00:29:23 Speaker 4: But just like the ufologists, it's a disinformation campaign. You have them in there so Minerva can manipulate the narrative to Carrie Cassidy, who's telling the truth. But Minerva, she's flying around with her zoo animals, just having a fantastic time. 00:29:40 Speaker 1: Old time. 00:29:40 Speaker 2: Morphing her insides in order to accommodate.

00:29:44 Speaker 1: Of course. 00:29:45 Speaker 2: I mean, it is disinformation in some sense. 00:29:48 Speaker 1: I love it, Dan. I just wish you were more willing to engage with it the way that I am. 00:29:53 Speaker 2: I don't know how to. 00:29:54 Speaker 1: With hope and love in your heart, Dan. 00:29:57 Speaker 2: It's not what it inspires. 00:29:58 Speaker 4: Let me tell you something else. Santa is inside of all of us, Dan. 00:30:03 Speaker 2: See, I love the idea of hope, but this makes me profoundly sad because I know that she's being lied to by a murderer. You know, like that part of it is like. 00:30:12 Speaker 1: Why you got to bring everybody down? 00:30:14 Speaker 2: Because that's what's real. I know. I'm interested in what's real, generally. 00:30:19 Speaker 1: Right. 00:30:19 Speaker 2: Because this is about piercing the worlds of con men. Right. And for me, I mean, I don't really care that much about Mark Richards. He committed a murder, and he's in prison for it. Right. Like, to a certain extent, the system has worked. 00:30:32 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:30:33 Speaker 2: And I don't really care that much that Project Camelot goes and visits him and lets him say all this nonsense. Because he's not killing anybody else. He's not telling Carrie Cassidy to murder for him. He's just creating a weird... He's just bored. He's creating a weird fictional story in order to alleviate some of his guilt, maybe try to rehab his personality. his character in the public eye. I don't really care about that because if you're not an idiot, you can see through this pretty quickly. And then also, I don't really care all that much about the fraud that's being perpetrated on his wife because she seems to get something out of it too. There's a positive for her. She gets meaning in her life. She gets to live out thinking that eventually these raptors are coming. She seems pretty happy. 00:31:19 Speaker 1: And she travels around. 00:31:21 Speaker 4: She has a large amount of friends and people who support her and people who love her. 00:31:25 Speaker 2: She seems to also get more out of watching Jurassic World than I did. So that's something. Right. Even though I enjoyed it, I couldn't have enjoyed it as much as someone who thinks that's a real raptor. 00:31:38 Speaker 1: No, that's entirely true. 00:31:40 Speaker 2: Anyway, I don't really care too much. But at the same time, it's outside of... my stated objective to be like, oh, Minerva's real. 00:31:50 Speaker 1: Right. 00:31:50 Speaker 4: But here's my reality with this. Reality is the worst thing right now. 00:31:58 Speaker 2: It's not great. 00:31:58 Speaker 4: There is nothing that I don't hate on this fucking planet at this point. 00:32:03 Speaker 2: Right. 00:32:04 Speaker 1: And it's fun. 00:32:07 Speaker 2: Well, look. 00:32:07 Speaker 4: It's genuinely fun because, again, it is benign. If Mark Richards was telling her lies and trying to get her to do stuff. 00:32:16 Speaker 1: Right. 00:32:16 Speaker 2: If he was like, you know the Reptoids because they have dark skin. 00:32:20 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. 00:32:20 Speaker 2: If he was doing something like that, then it would be like, oh, no. 00:32:23 Speaker 1: Or even just like, you need to lead the fight against the Reptoids. 00:32:26 Speaker 2: Right. 00:32:27 Speaker 1: You need to be part of this. Instead, he's just spinning a yarn. 00:32:31 Speaker 4: We could make a graphic novel based on the bullshit that he says, and it would be just as much fun. 00:32:39 Speaker 2: I don't think he has intellectual property over this. 00:32:41 Speaker 1: I don't think so either. 00:32:41 Speaker 2: I think we could go ahead and do it. 00:32:42 Speaker 1: I think so. 00:32:43 Speaker 2: So the other thing, I tentatively agree with you. 00:32:47 Speaker 4: And we wouldn't even have to, we would have to put any resemblance to characters living or dead is completely unintentional. 00:32:54 Speaker 2: We've blown it now, though. That's a good point. Because of this episode. So thankfully neither of us can really draw that good. 00:33:03 Speaker 1: Nah. 00:33:03 Speaker 2: It's not going to happen. 00:33:04 Speaker 1: I know a few artists. 00:33:05 Speaker 2: That's true. Um. be that as it may reality being good or bad aside. Uh, there's another update that I need to give you that, uh, Carrie brought up at the beginning of the episode. She's no longer allowed to bring a pencil or pen and she had to take her notes in crayon. I think, I think Mark might've misbehaved in prison and they took away his pen privileges. 00:33:33 Speaker 1: Oh my God. 00:33:34 Speaker 2: So, uh, That's crazy. Later in the episode, she says, if you want to see my notes, they're on the website. I was like, oh, please. 00:33:43 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:33:44 Speaker 2: Please have pictures of the crayon notes. 00:33:45 Speaker 1: Oh, absolutely. 00:33:46 Speaker 2: She typed them up. Oh, boo. It was a real bummer. Anyway, moving on to this next clip. We've discussed in the past. 00:33:53 Speaker 4: I would pay some money for a signed page of crayon notes. Ugh. 00:33:59 Speaker 1: Absolutely. 00:33:59 Speaker 2: That would go on the wall. 00:34:00 Speaker 5: Oh, yeah. 00:34:01 Speaker 2: So, as we discussed. 00:34:03 Speaker 1: Even John Rappaport would hang that up. 00:34:09 Speaker 2: That's the new seal of approval for art. John Rappaport would hang that shit up. Oh, yeah. So, in this next clip, we've talked about it in the past. Some of the wars that we've fought in the history of America have not been what we think they were. 00:34:24 Speaker 1: Stargates. 00:34:25 Speaker 2: They're Stargates, and as we've Learned there were beetle beings in Vietnam. 00:34:30 Speaker 1: Yes. 00:34:31 Speaker 2: The Tet, as we've called them. 00:34:32 Speaker 1: Yep, yep. 00:34:33 Speaker 2: But. 00:34:33 Speaker 1: They were very offensive to me. 00:34:35 Speaker 2: In this clip, we learn that there might have been other bug

beings. Okay. Or. 00:34:42 Speaker 1: Ender's Game style, the Formics. 00:34:43 Speaker 2: Or possibly she's trying to retcon the beetles and turn them into something else. Okay. 00:34:51 Speaker 5: We did talk more about the spider beings later. I wanted to know about the relationship of the spider beings to the Viet Cong leaders and also to the recall of the troops. And he said that they worked with the spider leadership and the Viet Cong leaders. And he also said they used mind control to get the troops to forget who they were really working with. And they used gas to make them Oh, boy. I forget. So that most troops wouldn't remember anything to do with the spider beings. He thinks it's possible that some soldiers will remember, however. 00:35:33 Speaker 1: Of course. 00:35:34 Speaker 5: And I talked about one soldier recall from my previous show that I did. 00:35:40 Speaker 1: I did a show on the. 00:35:42 Speaker 5: Spider beings from the Vietnam War. You've got to do that episode. And a very interesting episode. A soldier on my show, as well as some other people calling in and some other interesting recall from various soldiers in the Vietnam War, seems to be leading in that direction to saying that there may be validity to what Mark is saying, some corroboration out. 00:36:11 Speaker 2: So that's not corroboration. 00:36:13 Speaker 1: That's PTSD. 00:36:14 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's PTSD and crazy people calling you. 00:36:17 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:36:18 Speaker 2: That's not corroboration. Just because someone says the same crazy shit that someone else says, it's possible for two liars to exist. 00:36:25 Speaker 1: Could be a coincidence. 00:36:27 Speaker 2: Or it could be suggestibility. 00:36:29 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:36:29 Speaker 2: Because, you know, you have this fantastic narrative that you're putting out there about raptors being friends with us against these reptoids and... You have beetles or spiders. 00:36:41 Speaker 1: Right. 00:36:42 Speaker 2: Apparently these spiders are the size of VWs. Right. We've learned. 00:36:46 Speaker 1: Can you say the words spider leadership? No. 00:36:51 Speaker 2: I refuse to. 00:36:53 Speaker 1: Spider leadership. 00:36:55 Speaker 2: The VC. 00:36:55 Speaker 1: He talked to the spider leadership. 00:36:58 Speaker 2: The VC. 00:36:58 Speaker 1: Tell me. 00:36:59 Speaker 2: It was in touch. 00:37:00 Speaker 4: Spider leadership, what do you see? What do you see, Dan? Tell me what you see right now. Is it a group of people or spiders? 00:37:08 Speaker 2: Yes. 00:37:09 Speaker 1: They're as large as VWs. 00:37:12 Speaker 5: Yes. 00:37:12 Speaker 2: It's a big room. 00:37:13 Speaker 1: It's a big spider. 00:37:14 Speaker 2: It's underground somewhere. 00:37:15 Speaker 1: All right. All right. 00:37:16 Speaker 2: Like an underground temple. You've got six high-ranking spiders, but they all have hats on. 00:37:21 Speaker 1: They all have hats on? I was going to go with robes. I was going to go with robes. 00:37:24 Speaker 2: No. 00:37:25 Speaker 1: Yeah. Robes and podiums. 00:37:27 Speaker 2: How do you deal with the legs with the robes? 00:37:29 Speaker 1: Look, they're the spider leadership. They can figure that shit out. 00:37:32 Speaker 2: They just drape it over their eight legs. 00:37:33 Speaker 1: They make silk or webbing or whatever the fuck it is they make. 00:37:37 Speaker 2: That means they can make an amazing hat. 00:37:38 Speaker 1: That's a good point. 00:37:40 Speaker 2: That's a good point. I insistent on the hats. I'm 50-50 on robes. Because robes really indicate spiritual leadership less than military leadership. This is a military operation. 00:37:52 Speaker 1: I disagree. 00:37:53 Speaker 2: I think it's spiritual. The VC is involved. Right. The Viet Cong is involved with spider leadership. Right. 00:37:59 Speaker 1: I believe that the spiders are Tibetan monks. 00:38:02 Speaker 2: You think that's the code? 00:38:03 Speaker 1: I think that's the trick. 00:38:04 Speaker 2: Yep. That's the dog whistle that's being used here? 00:38:06 Speaker 1: Next question. 00:38:07 Speaker 5: Right. 00:38:07 Speaker 1: Democratic? 00:38:10 Speaker 2: The spiders? Yes. Absolutely not. 00:38:12 Speaker 1: No. 00:38:12 Speaker 2: Absolutely not. 00:38:13 Speaker 1: What are you talking about? 00:38:14 Speaker 2: Not a chance. 00:38:15 Speaker 1: You think it's a military junta? 00:38:17 Speaker 4: Yes. 00:38:17 Speaker 1: Okay. 00:38:18 Speaker 2: These are spider fucks. 00:38:20 Speaker 1: I think you just have a negative opinion of spiders. 00:38:22 Speaker 2: I don't think that democracy is necessarily a system that penetrates other alien races. I think this might be an unpopular opinion. 00:38:31 Speaker 1: That's why we went to war in Afghanistan. We were trying to bring democracy to the spiders. 00:38:35 Speaker 2: This might be an unpopular opinion for humans circa 2017, but democracy might not be where we end up landing. It's a great system in some ways, but we might be able to find better. Okay. It's possible. 00:38:47 Speaker 1: All right. 00:38:47 Speaker 2: And maybe these spiders know something we don't. 00:38:49 Speaker 1: That's possible. 00:38:50 Speaker 2: I don't know. Anyway. 00:38:52 Speaker 4: It's an anarcho-capitalist in an anarcho-capitalist situation. 00:38:56 Speaker 1: Hold on now. All right. All right. 00:38:58 Speaker 2: Now I'm against them. I'm firmly against. 00:39:01 Speaker 1: You're a raptor. 00:39:02 Speaker 2: I would be a raptor if we're fighting anarcho-capitalist spiders. Yes. Absolutely. Absolutely. 00:39:11 Speaker 4: I live in a world where we get to say, I would be a raptor if we were fighting against anarcho-capitalist spiders. 00:39:18 Speaker 1: This is my favorite world right now. 00:39:19 Speaker 2: I'm imagining a giant spider that has a Stefan Molyneux head. And I'm just like, no, no. Get away. 00:39:26 Speaker 1: Get. 00:39:27 Speaker 2: I have a giant rolled up magazine I'm swatting him with.

uh their one weakness yeah anyway so let's get to this next clip uh in this one we uh she's discussing uh hurricanes and this is bad timing that is bad timing She, much like Alex, believes that the government has weather control weapons. And she has a very interesting narrative for why portions of North Carolina had to evacuate recently. 00:39:54 Speaker 1: No, I don't really want to hear this part. 00:39:56 Speaker 2: You do, actually. All right. All right. All right. It's not like it's wrong. 00:40:01 Speaker 1: Yes. 00:40:02 Speaker 2: Oh, is it? Yeah. It's disgraceful. But the particular lie is fun enough that it's necessary. Okay. 00:40:09 Speaker 4: Okay. 00:40:10 Speaker 5: He said in this recent North Carolina Outer Banks Islands, there was a power cut, supposedly. That was the news item. So what I've done on my notes is link the two articles about the recent cut in power in that area and the fact that the governor actually evacuated These people out of the area, the real reason they were being evacuated, according to Mark, is because a portal opened and that a very dark group, a rogue group of aliens came through and started actually eating people off the beaches. 00:40:54 Speaker 2: Sorry, we got to pause there. Rogue aliens. 00:41:00 Speaker 1: Rogue aliens. 00:41:01 Speaker 2: Eating people on the beaches. 00:41:03 Speaker 1: What aliens? What rogue aliens? Is there any specifics on which rogue aliens? 00:41:08 Speaker 2: We actually will get a little bit of information. 00:41:10 Speaker 1: And they were eating people on the beaches. 00:41:11 Speaker 2: Eating people on the beaches. 00:41:12 Speaker 1: Eating people on the beaches. 00:41:13 Speaker 2: Absolutely. 00:41:14 Speaker 1: All right. 00:41:14 Speaker 2: All right. 00:41:16 Speaker 1: Yep. 00:41:16 Speaker 2: So far, so good. 00:41:17 Speaker 1: So we're at... So rogue aliens. 00:41:20 Speaker 2: Right. 00:41:21 Speaker 1: Rogue from what? 00:41:25 Speaker 2: Great question. No response. 00:41:28 Speaker 4: No. 00:41:29 Speaker 2: I'll tell you, that's one of those, I'll get back to you on that. 00:41:32 Speaker 1: Okay, okay. 00:41:33 Speaker 2: I don't know, space protocols? I don't fucking know. 00:41:35 Speaker 1: Are they pirate aliens who just eat people to recharge? 00:41:39 Speaker 2: Right, they could be. 00:41:40 Speaker 4: Why, if you've got a portal technology, why do you need to eat people? 00:41:44 Speaker 2: Well, they're delicious, first of all. 00:41:46 Speaker 1: That's true. 00:41:47 Speaker 2: Second of all, we know that these aliens love the climate around, especially around America. That's true. And so they're probably vacationing on the outer islands of North Carolina. 00:41:57 Speaker 1: It's a great place to vacation. 00:41:58 Speaker 2: That's why they had to break open the portal. 00:42:00 Speaker 1: I've been there. 00:42:01 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's great. 00:42:02 Speaker 1: It's not bad. 00:42:02 Speaker 2: It's not a situation at all. 00:42:04 Speaker 1: I'm sure they have a timeshare. 00:42:06 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. That's the ticket. It's not a situation of dangerous inclement weather caused by climate change. No, no, no, no. Oh, by the way, Mark once again reiterates that he believes in climate change on this episode. 00:42:20 Speaker 1: God damn it. 00:42:21 Speaker 2: It's like, wow, even the crazy gets it. Yeah. So let's get back to this. 00:42:25 Speaker 4: Somehow the guy who believes in raptors is less dumb than our president. 00:42:29 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, he doesn't have a vested interest in tax cuts for the rich. Oh, dude. Also, I want to get into this really quick. 00:42:36 Speaker 4: He has vested interest in tax cuts for the raptors. 00:42:39 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:42:40 Speaker 2: So, you know, Alex Jones' whole thing about. 00:42:43 Speaker 1: Prosperity and bullshit? Lies? White supremacy? 00:42:46 Speaker 2: About how, like, the climate change lie, in his words. 00:42:51 Speaker 1: Carbon tax? 00:42:52 Speaker 2: It's just trying to push carbon taxes. 00:42:53 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:42:54 Speaker 2: I did a little looking into that. 00:42:55 Speaker 1: Do you mean carbon taxes that work? 00:42:57 Speaker 2: It's kind of interesting because South Africa has had carbon taxes starting in September of 2015. 00:43:04 Speaker 1: How have they been doing? 00:43:05 Speaker 2: China has had a carbon tax since 2012. 00:43:07 Speaker 1: How about them? 00:43:08 Speaker 2: India, they had a carbon tax that was initiated in July of 2010, and they increased it in 2014. Japan has had one since 2012. How have their emissions been? 00:43:22 Speaker 5: Good. 00:43:23 Speaker 2: They're improving. 00:43:24 Speaker 1: Consistently dropping? 00:43:25 Speaker 2: South Korea has had one since 2008. Taiwan has had one since 2009, or they started planning one. Australia has had one since 2012. New Zealand, 2005. 00:43:35 Speaker 4: Well, and that just proves that they don't work, because clearly those countries are falling apart. 00:43:43 Speaker 2: The European Union has been trying to implement one since the 1990s. 00:43:48 Speaker 1: Well, they're fucked on that. 00:43:50 Speaker 2: In Denmark, 2002, they had one. Finland started in the 1990s, way ahead of the curve. France, they had a carbon tax. 00:43:59 Speaker 1: Finland actually got Exxon's interior research. 00:44:03 Speaker 2: France initiated starting carbon taxes in 2009. Germany adopted ecological tax reform in 1999. 00:44:15 Speaker 4: We're the dumbest fucking country on the goddamn planet. 00:44:18 Speaker 1: Yeah. We're officially dumber than North Korea. 00:44:21 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, there's so many countries. In Sweden, in 1991, they enacted a CO2 tax. In the United Kingdom, 1993, they started taxing petroleum products. Norway, Switzerland... Central America even has some countries. Costa Rica. 00:44:41 Speaker 1: Do you mean the developed and undeveloped worlds? 00:44:44 Speaker 2: Costa Rica got a carbon tax going in

1997. Canada, they have no federal carbon taxes, but their provinces have enacted carbon taxes of their own accord. So that's states' rights. States' rights. And according to the Carbon Tax Center, the United States is one of the few large and industrialized nations on Earth that does not implement a carbon tax. 00:45:08 Speaker 4: I can't think of any reason why we wouldn't have. 00:45:12 Speaker 2: Well, because we have way too many businesses that have way too much sway over the government. 00:45:19 Speaker 4: This is the thing that I've been consistent, like, I have not been able to get this out of my head. 00:45:25 Speaker 1: We don't live in a democracy. No, it's an oligarchy. The insanity of. 00:45:29 Speaker 2: Or a corporateocracy or something like that. 00:45:30 Speaker 1: Yeah, a kleptocracy. 00:45:32 Speaker 2: Well, no, because it's not. 00:45:33 Speaker 1: The insanity. 00:45:34 Speaker 2: Kleptocracy is more like. Thieves. Well, but it's more generally focused around one person. And granted, Trump is doing a great job of making that a reality. But we have more of just like a plethora of thieving organizations. 00:45:50 Speaker 5: Yeah. 00:45:50 Speaker 2: That are all corporations. 00:45:52 Speaker 1: Causing trusts and monopolies and the like. 00:45:55 Speaker 2: And because they're corporations, they dodge individual responsibility for the crimes they're committing. 00:45:59 Speaker 1: Absolutely. 00:46:00 Speaker 2: So. 00:46:01 Speaker 1: My position is, why the fuck... And I think this is why all of our protests have no real. 00:46:09 Speaker 4: Because we need to go to... Because we don't have a democracy. The idea of protest... Like, whenever you look on Twitter. 00:46:16 Speaker 1: You need to call these six senators who are a maybe on this. 00:46:20 Speaker 2: Right. 00:46:20 Speaker 4: Now, the larger problem is the other 44 who don't give a fuck because they're just owned. 00:46:25 Speaker 1: Yeah. They're just owned. 00:46:26 Speaker 4: So go to the fucking Koch brothers' headquarters and protest there. If we had 20,000 women sitting outside of Wichita, Kansas. 00:46:37 Speaker 1: And I'll tweet out the address again. 00:46:39 Speaker 2: Right. 00:46:39 Speaker 4: If we did that, that's a real effect. That's something that really bothers people. 00:46:44 Speaker 1: Because we don't live in a world. 00:46:46 Speaker 2: I think you would find that it wouldn't bother people as much as you hope. 00:46:49 Speaker 1: Find their fucking house. 00:46:51 Speaker 2: No, because here, let me give you my dark thought as of this weekend. Because we're recording this on Saturday. So I don't know what's going to happen tomorrow with the football games that happen. We'll all be dead. You know, like, because, you know, President Trump, blech. he insulted Kaepernick and said that the NFL owners should fire these players. 00:47:11 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:47:12 Speaker 2: How dare they? At his fucking clearly white nationalist rally in Alabama where he got people to boo him. 00:47:17 Speaker 1: Oh, in Alabama? There was a white nationalist rally? 00:47:19 Speaker 2: Totally. 00:47:19 Speaker 1: Who would have fucking guessed? 00:47:20 Speaker 2: Totally. So, but, you know, we're still... The games are tomorrow, and my estimation of it is there's going to be a lot more people taking a knee. 00:47:27 Speaker 1: I would fucking hope so. 00:47:29 Speaker 2: Right, but. 00:47:29 Speaker 4: I mean, if Steph Curry and LeBron James team up to call Trump a piece of shit. 00:47:35 Speaker 1: Fuck yeah. 00:47:36 Speaker 2: Yeah, but here's what I'm getting at. I think that there is a decent chance that what we might end up seeing is a larger scale version of the University of Missouri. 00:47:46 Speaker 1: That's possible. 00:47:46 Speaker 2: Because there were legitimate protests and people were growing dissatisfied with stuff and wanting the president of the university system to step down. And he didn't until the football team said they weren't going to play anymore and he would lose tons of money. Now, if you get the NFL going on strike, along with the NBA or something like that, or a large portion of it, I think you would have millionaires who are like, we're losing millions of dollars, tens of millions of dollars, and they would start putting pressure on senators in ways that we could not. 00:48:19 Speaker 1: That's pathetic. 00:48:20 Speaker 2: It's very pathetic. 00:48:21 Speaker 1: It's so fucking sad. 00:48:23 Speaker 2: It makes me profoundly sad. But at the same time, I mean, if that could happen, and then once that happens, we can try and change it. change the fact that that matters more than the voice of the people, great. Yeah. I don't know. I think that you might end up seeing these moneyed interests being what ends up having to be changed. 00:48:44 Speaker 4: Imagine a Sunday where the NFL, the players' union, just goes, No. 00:48:50 Speaker 5: No. 00:48:51 Speaker 1: Fuck you. 00:48:51 Speaker 2: Mm-hmm. 00:48:52 Speaker 1: That would destroy America. 00:48:54 Speaker 2: That would be fucked up. 00:48:55 Speaker 1: There would literally be riots in the South. Probably. Yeah, absolutely. 00:49:00 Speaker 2: And everyone would just blame black people. 00:49:02 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh my God. Not everyone. The world is sad. The world is fucking sad, Dan. 00:49:06 Speaker 2: Very much. 00:49:06 Speaker 1: Can we get back to Project Camelot? 00:49:08 Speaker 2: Yep, here's more about weapons. 00:49:11 Speaker 5: In the Barrier Islands area, he said the whole area had to be evacuated under false pretenses so the military could deal with it. They found that they couldn't handle the situation because it required that they didn't have any collateral damage. And usually when they try to close a portal, they use a nuke or they have in the past. So they enlisted the help of the Raptors. To help with their high-tech weapons. 00:49:42 Speaker 2: This checks out. Yeah. 00:49:43

Speaker 5: And they have special weapons that allows them to target individual beings and not have collateral damage as well as to close portals. 00:49:55 Speaker 2: Cool, cool, cool. 00:49:55 Speaker 5: He said our technology wasn't sophisticated enough to avoid collateral damage. 00:50:04 Speaker 1: So here's the thing that she assumes in that. 00:50:09 Speaker 2: Just one thing? 00:50:10 Speaker 1: This is the more important thing. 00:50:12 Speaker 4: If the way we usually close portals is by detonating nuclear weapons, how many nuclear weapons have we detonated secretly? 00:50:22 Speaker 1: Or have we only closed two portals? 00:50:25 Speaker 2: You're not taking into account tests. Oh, nuclear tests have also. 00:50:30 Speaker 1: Oh, shit. 00:50:31 Speaker 2: Yes. 00:50:31 Speaker 1: All right. 00:50:32 Speaker 5: Yeah. 00:50:32 Speaker 4: So North Korea is actually heroic. 00:50:35 Speaker 1: Well, they just they're the ones keeping us from. 00:50:37 Speaker 2: No, no, no. We'll get to that. 00:50:41 Speaker 1: Yes. 00:50:41 Speaker 2: Put a pin in. 00:50:42 Speaker 1: Yes. Thank you. 00:50:43 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:50:44 Speaker 5: But that this is now changed. So this seems like a rather recent change. Maybe we, in essence, have now got the technology of the raptors. He said the intruders coming in through the portals were a subspecies of another species and that we don't know this species very well. 00:51:06 Speaker 2: These are the ones who are eating people on beaches. 00:51:07 Speaker 4: Yeah, they're the subspecies of another species. I assume the other species not interested in eating people. 00:51:13 Speaker 2: She might have had the name of the species, but it was in crayon and she couldn't read it. I don't know. Maybe. Who knows? 00:51:21 Speaker 5: He said the situation, he believes, has been handled in that area. 00:51:25 Speaker 2: That's good. 00:51:26 Speaker 5: He did not tell me what kind of aliens these were. And I am also wondering now if the recent allowing of the hurricanes, very destructive hurricanes, Irma and Harvey, were sort of another episode in this sort of portal war with a certain group coming in and not really about... you know, actually nothing natural, no weather event that's natural. We do know that there are weather wars going on constantly. 00:52:03 Speaker 1: Constantly. 00:52:04 Speaker 5: And so I'm going to try to see if I can find out something more about these particular disasters here in America because the evidence we have is that they have plenty of technology to be able to turn a storm back out to sea. And the fact that they didn't do that in the case of Harvey and Irma is rather suspicious. 00:52:29 Speaker 2: Nope. 00:52:29 Speaker 1: That's why they were. 00:52:30 Speaker 5: Tweeting, don't shoot your guns at the hurricane. And I think Irma is actually happening right now, so I don't know what the final sort of results of that will be. So kind of leave that open. 00:52:39 Speaker 2: Yeah, you leave it open. 00:52:40 Speaker 1: Yeah, please do. 00:52:40 Speaker 2: Yeah. This investigation is ongoing. This is not an investigation. You are just listening to crazy. 00:52:47 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:52:47 Speaker 2: As we've gone over that all of these ideas about Being able to create, steer, stop hurricanes, all that stuff, largely has to do with misunderstandings about harp. 00:52:59 Speaker 1: Yep. 00:53:00 Speaker 2: And weird space-based lasers. 00:53:02 Speaker 1: That harp don't sing, my friend. 00:53:04 Speaker 2: No. Angels don't play that harp. 00:53:06 Speaker 1: Uh-uh. 00:53:06 Speaker 2: So now we get into the raptors now. We have a little bit of... Oh, please. 00:53:10 Speaker 1: I was wondering. 00:53:11 Speaker 2: Yeah, we have some news about the raptors. They're involved in some weird stuff. 00:53:17 Speaker 1: I have some news about the raptors. They didn't get Carmelo. 00:53:20 Speaker 2: Oh, shit. 00:53:21 Speaker 5: We talked about Yellow Book, and I asked him about seeing his own future. I asked him if he was ever hooked up to the technology that the raptors have, and many other races, we're told, that allows a human to see the history of Earth and also their own reincarnational history. 00:53:39 Speaker 1: Of course. 00:53:41 Speaker 5: And he said, yes, he was hooked up to such a machine. The raptors have that technology. He said he did see some of the true history of Earth as well in that way. And I also asked him sort of a deeper question having to do with his soul contract and whether or not he felt that he was a victim of circumstances or whether he chose the path he's on as a soul. coming in, and he said that he felt that he chose to fight the powers that be, and that is why he became imprisoned. However, he didn't choose to be in prison for 30 years. 00:54:24 Speaker 2: This is weird. 00:54:25 Speaker 1: So he chose to be in prison. 00:54:26 Speaker 2: This is weird. 00:54:27 Speaker 1: But then he was like, 30 years? That was too long. 00:54:29 Speaker 2: This is not what my soul signed up for. 00:54:31 Speaker 1: I made a big mistake on this one. 00:54:33 Speaker 2: Do you understand the conception of what she's talking about? 00:54:35 Speaker 4: Yeah. 00:54:35 Speaker 2: There's a lot of people who believe. 00:54:37 Speaker 1: Mark Richards was the fourth member of Public Enemy. 00:54:40 Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no. I mean, that's fine. I should have allowed that to breathe. I'm talking about the soul contract stuff. 00:54:48 Speaker 1: No, I did not know about the soul contract. 00:54:50 Speaker 2: So there's a lot of people who have a belief in reincarnation. 00:54:54 Speaker 3: Yes. 00:54:54 Speaker 2: And that's reasonable to some extent in terms of. Is it? Well, in terms of like spiritual beliefs, reincarnation is one I'm going to just go ahead and give you. Anyways, keep going. Mathematically, there's problems. 00:55:06 Speaker 1: There's a lot of problems. 00:55:08 Speaker 2: But be that as it may, if

you want to just have a fanciful sort of spiritual belief, that's not one that I find particularly offensive. 00:55:15 Speaker 4: I mean, the only problem I have there is there's roughly, what, like two million people who think they were Cleopatra in a former life? 00:55:23 Speaker 2: That's ego. And I agree that's a problem. But then also the numbers of new people that have been, you know, in terms of population growth. Where are the souls coming from? Is it splitting of souls? 00:55:34 Speaker 1: Right. 00:55:35 Speaker 2: There's mathematical problems. 00:55:36 Speaker 4: Right. 00:55:37 Speaker 2: But the belief of a subset of the reincarnation folks, and it's something that I enjoy. I like this. I'm not saying I 100% believe it, but I like it. 00:55:48 Speaker 1: So you mean you some percentage believe it? 00:55:51 Speaker 2: No, I would like to believe it, but the cold, hard skeptic in me or whatever certainly doesn't. 00:55:58 Speaker 1: Can't allow it. 00:55:59 Speaker 2: But there are people who believe that you go about your life and there's a soul group that you have. 00:56:07 Speaker 1: Okay. 00:56:07 Speaker 2: And so whenever you meet your soulmate or people you really connect to, those are members of your soul group. And you're going about your life. in a way that you guys all agreed to before you were born. So in between lives, your soul group gets together, and you come up with whatever the game you're going to play in this next life is. So if you and I were souls, we'd be like, Hey, let's go get. 00:56:29 Speaker 1: Let's start a podcast. 00:56:30 Speaker 2: Let's go get abused by religion a bunch and then eventually meet each other doing comedy and then start a podcast. 00:56:36 Speaker 1: Yeah, that sounds about right. 00:56:37 Speaker 2: That would be our plan that we created. And then we would sign a soul contract. 00:56:41 Speaker 1: Right. 00:56:41 Speaker 2: Wherein karmic debts are repaid. Right. 00:56:45 Speaker 3: Like. 00:56:46 Speaker 1: So we're getting close to Boconanism from. 00:56:48 Speaker 2: I don't know. 00:56:49 Speaker 1: Kurt Vonnegut. 00:56:50 Speaker 2: Katzgradle? Sure. 00:56:51 Speaker 5: Yeah. 00:56:52 Speaker 2: Yeah. You just like... If you like... you know, killed someone in a past life, then your soul contract would involve in your next life. 00:57:02 Speaker 1: You got to pay for it. They do something to you. 00:57:05 Speaker 2: Oh, okay. They ruin your life. 00:57:06 Speaker 1: Yeah. There's a one to one or whatever cause effect. 00:57:09 Speaker 2: Right. So that's the idea that they're espousing here. Uh, that when he, before he was born, he had a soul contract that he signed and he's like, well, I was into fight. But I didn't want to go to prison for 30 years. Right. Which is silly. 00:57:21 Speaker 1: Oh, is it, Dan? 00:57:23 Speaker 2: Even within that framework that I enjoy, the idea– because it is fun. It is a fun idea. It is a fun idea. Even within that, though, I didn't sign up to go to prison for 30 years because I killed a dude. Yeah. 00:57:35 Speaker 4: So what you're saying is prior to being reincarnated, his soul group got together– And they're trying to pay the bill at a restaurant and half of them walked out and he. 00:57:45 Speaker 2: Got left with a check. He got stiff. Yeah, I got you. 00:57:48 Speaker 1: Now it makes sense. 00:57:49 Speaker 2: Here we go. 00:57:50 Speaker 5: And he feels that they did, you know, look into his future as they have the ability to do with individuals. They saw that he would be a threat. He feels his biggest threat is questioning authority and also the fact that people tend to want to follow him. And so the powers that be find that to be the greatest threat. 00:58:15 Speaker 2: So. 00:58:15 Speaker 4: That's... Just like we talked about last time, that's like that little bit of guilt coming out that he can't quite. 00:58:21 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:58:21 Speaker 4: It's a problem that people want to follow me. And he's like, I think it is a problem. 00:58:26 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:58:26 Speaker 1: Because I killed that guy. 00:58:28 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. I am a sociopath who's weirdly charismatic, apparently. 00:58:33 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:58:33 Speaker 2: And was able to convince a 17-year-old dude to kill a guy for money. Right. And now he has... A probably well-meaning secret space program researcher, in heavy quotes, who now is following him, essentially. 00:58:49 Speaker 1: Right. 00:58:49 Speaker 2: And, yeah, that is the guilt. That's him trying to wrestle with the fact that, like, I do bad things. And so I misspoke. It wasn't the raptors. These are the powers that be that saw that. And so his version of it is, like, they saw that I was going to be problem with this. And so they put me in prison. Yeah. They done. They set me up. 00:59:12 Speaker 1: I mean, he, he was a problem and he should be in prison. 00:59:16 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:59:17 Speaker 1: And it was not because he's questioning authority. 00:59:20 Speaker 2: No, but that actually, uh, that comes later. I don't have the clip of this, but he was explaining that, uh, The questioning authority happened after this alien that he loved got killed. Yeah. And so after that point, he was all against authority. 00:59:34 Speaker 1: The alien he loved got killed. 00:59:35 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:59:36 Speaker 1: Oh, so it's really a love story. 00:59:38 Speaker 2: More or less, yeah. 00:59:39 Speaker 1: This is, what? Wow. 00:59:41 Speaker 2: Mm-hmm. 00:59:41 Speaker 1: All right. 00:59:42 Speaker 2: Great. 00:59:43 Speaker 1: All right, this is a classic revenge tale. 00:59:44 Speaker 3: Yep. 00:59:45 Speaker 2: So you might think that the Raptors, they got this future technology and what have you. 00:59:49 Speaker 1: For real, this would be the best Bollywood movie in history. 00:59:53 Speaker 2: I'd watch it. 00:59:54 Speaker 1: Oh, absolutely. There'd be great musical numbers. 00:59:58 Speaker 2: Real raptors. 00:59:58 Speaker 1: Real

raptors. 01:00:01 Speaker 2: Who would kill you for chocolate. 01:00:03 Speaker 1: Absolutely. 01:00:04 Speaker 2: So the raptors have a presence. 01:00:06 Speaker 1: Who among us has not wanted to kill for chocolate? 01:00:10 Speaker 2: Me? 01:00:12 Speaker 1: You want to kill after eating those white chocolates? 01:00:14 Speaker 2: Let me tell you this. 01:00:16 Speaker 1: Yes, tell me this. 01:00:17 Speaker 2: Do you have a dollar you can get chocolate? It's really accessible. 01:00:24 Speaker 1: But not the good raptor chocolate. 01:00:26 Speaker 2: That's bullshit. That's bullshit. They would take whatever. They're not like, I need a Wonka bar. They'd be like, I don't care. Give me Hershey's. Whatever. I don't give a shit. 01:00:35 Speaker 5: All right. 01:00:36 Speaker 1: What about the rogue aliens coming through portals? 01:00:38 Speaker 2: No, they want to eat people. 01:00:39 Speaker 1: Okay. 01:00:39 Speaker 2: So the raptors. 01:00:41 Speaker 1: Yes, the raptors. 01:00:42 Speaker 2: They have a presence in modern day global conflict. 01:00:46 Speaker 1: They have to. 01:00:47 Speaker 2: And it turns out the raptors are in play in Syria. 01:00:51 Speaker 5: Disclosure, Aleppo and the reptilians that are pushing disclosure. I discussed this in my last interview. He had said that the reptoids were forcing the issue in Aleppo, that the battle there was a very intense battle in part because the reptoids were building what is in essence a gate, he said, a stargate, and they were looking to bring troops and craft into this dimension. He said they have aircraft-sized carrier aircraft and that they can bring around 5,000 of their own troops in that way. He said they can take back, however, through the gates as many as 30,000 to 40,000 human prey, dead or alive. He says they trade human slaves to other races, and those humans are used as slaves and also for genetic engineering purposes. And it's one of their businesses, is what he called it. They have been dealt with for the time being, but this continues. 01:01:59 Speaker 2: So, this is sad. 01:02:02 Speaker 4: So, Reptoids are the originators of the slave trade. 01:02:06 Speaker 1: That's what you're telling me. 01:02:07 Speaker 2: Interstellar. Inter... dimensional portal based slave trade. 01:02:11 Speaker 1: Well if they've been around here for long enough. 01:02:14 Speaker 2: You make a very valid interesting point of what are they trading for yeah that is a problem chocolate might be chocolate it's gotta be chocolate it might be chocolate. 01:02:22 Speaker 4: That good space chocolate yeah I don't know like how could chocolate exist in space. 01:02:30 Speaker 1: Truly that's the new if a tree falls in the forest well. 01:02:33 Speaker 2: I mean it requires cacao beans it requires usually milk are there cows in space. 01:02:39 Speaker 1: I mean, there's space cows. There's space cacao. 01:02:42 Speaker 2: We do not know that. 01:02:43 Speaker 1: There's space milk. 01:02:44 Speaker 2: Mark Richards has not confirmed that. Don't go out there. 01:02:48 Speaker 1: We got to talk to Minerva. That's who's going to know about this. 01:02:50 Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. 01:02:51 Speaker 1: Okay, so Minerva takes zoo animals out into space. 01:02:54 Speaker 4: They get genetically engineered to create super space chocolate. 01:02:58 Speaker 2: Now you're onto it. 01:02:59 Speaker 1: They don't even. 01:02:59 Speaker 4: Look, straight chocolate milk. You just fucking go to town. 01:03:04 Speaker 2: You're officially onto the main stash. That is. 01:03:08 Speaker 2: Why Minerva is taking animals into space. This all makes sense now. 01:03:13 Speaker 1: What's glassy? 01:03:15 Speaker 2: A jar for the milk. 01:03:17 Speaker 1: Exactly. 01:03:19 Speaker 2: A giant anthropomorphic jar for milk. And co-pilot, of course. 01:03:25 Speaker 1: And co-pilot, yeah, yeah. 01:03:26 Speaker 2: So you might be concerned about the fact that the Reptoids are meddling in a business. Very. And they're... So the concern is that they're meddling and we don't, we don't see them. No one sees them. No one has ever seen one. 01:03:48 Speaker 1: Right. 01:03:48 Speaker 2: But there's a reason. 01:03:50 Speaker 5: One of his remote viewers, Aziz have a remote view to area 51. And apparently Aziz was aware enough to realize that when he was looking at a what appears to be a reptoid or reptilian being down in Area 51 in one of the lower levels, he saw that it would make an attempt to fog over his mind so that he would forget and also not see the being. However, he managed to see beyond that. So it's clear that they have this ability to fog over the human mind and also make humans forget. 01:04:33 Speaker 1: Doctor Who. 01:04:33 Speaker 5: Which obviously helps the secrecy. 01:04:36 Speaker 1: The silence. 01:04:36 Speaker 2: It obviously helps the secrecy. 01:04:39 Speaker 1: It couldn't hurt the secrecy. It certainly couldn't hurt. 01:04:42 Speaker 2: It's a very convenient piece of the narrative. Yeah. In terms of like, hey, why isn't anyone ever seen one of these? Well, they fog your vision. 01:04:48 Speaker 1: They fog your mind. 01:04:49 Speaker 2: They fog your vision and they make you forget. 01:04:51 Speaker 1: It's the silence from Doctor Who. 01:04:52 Speaker 2: It's Men in Black. Yeah. 01:04:55 Speaker 1: It's a common literary trope. 01:04:58 Speaker 2: So in our next clip, we get a little bit of... This is where we find out that the raptors will kill you for chocolate and surrounding comments. 01:05:06 Speaker 5: He did talk about the raptors and what they will do for chocolate or for any kind of technology they desire. He said they often steal or borrow technology from other races. He said that they will kill for anything they want, including chocolate. He said the raptors can see the past energetically. They see the past of Earth and of anyone they choose. 01:05:30 Speaker 2: I would argue, because she's also said that they can see the future. They can see

the future. 01:05:34 Speaker 1: If you can see the past, then you exist outside of time. 01:05:38 Speaker 2: Right. 01:05:38 Speaker 1: So you see it all as what is essentially space time. 01:05:41 Speaker 2: You can see the past and the future. Yeah. According to the Raptor technology that they have. And I would argue, in that case, there has to have been at least one time that a Raptor has killed someone for chocolate and then seen the future or past and been like, I shouldn't have killed that guy for chocolate. It's a very, very minor thing to kill someone for. 01:06:02 Speaker 1: Now, here's a thought. 01:06:03 Speaker 2: Also, it leads me to believe that the raptors are not good. 01:06:06 Speaker 1: They're not good. 01:06:06 Speaker 2: No. 01:06:07 Speaker 4: If they're on Mark Richards' notorious murder, Mark Richards, then they're not on the good. 01:06:13 Speaker 2: And if he's tossing aside the fact they'll kill you for something that's, like I said, very available. 01:06:17 Speaker 1: Now, again, here's where we get into situations. 01:06:20 Speaker 2: You know how back in the old days people would carry around dog treats all the time just in case they ran into a dog? I did not know that. I think that's something I've seen in old movies. Like, just in case, I got to keep the dog treats. 01:06:32 Speaker 1: Got a little holster full of dog treats. 01:06:34 Speaker 2: I recommend, as the world gets more and more chaotic, always keep some chocolate on you. That's a good idea. In case there are raptors, so you can be like, here you go, here you go, here you go. Don't kill me. It's yours. 01:06:44 Speaker 4: Now, see, I would go the complete opposite direction. Never get anywhere near chocolate. 01:06:49 Speaker 1: That way you're safe. 01:06:50 Speaker 2: This might be a diet thing. Maybe that's what Mark Richards is trying to encourage people to get in shape. 01:06:55 Speaker 1: Carrie lost a lot of weight following these interviews. 01:06:58 Speaker 2: You know what? They hate that sugar-free chocolate that you can get. Ooh, that's a good point. Diabetic chocolate. 01:07:02 Speaker 1: Right, right, right. 01:07:03 Speaker 2: So get the diabetic chocolate. Raptors, blech. 01:07:05 Speaker 4: Now, inexplicably, though, they like American chocolate more than they like European chocolate, despite the fact that we all know European. 01:07:12 Speaker 1: Chocolate is better. Belgian. 01:07:14 Speaker 2: Yeah. 01:07:15 Speaker 1: Now, here's the only issue there. 01:07:17 Speaker 4: So if you can see the past and the future, that suggests that you exist outside of four-dimensional time. So that means that all things are happening simultaneously. So you really don't even know if you have free will within that bound because everything has happened and will happen and is already happening at the same time. So those raptors, they're killing for chocolate, but they don't even know why. 01:07:42 Speaker 2: No. 01:07:42 Speaker 1: They have to. It's just part of who they are. 01:07:45 Speaker 2: Well, to some extent, that's true of everybody and everything, right? 01:07:48 Speaker 1: Exactly. We have no control over our actions. 01:07:51 Speaker 2: Especially if you can see into the future. That does imply predestination on some level. 01:07:56 Speaker 5: Yep. 01:07:56 Speaker 2: Unless it is that weird, you know, like Heroes, the TV show style version of the future. Right, right, right. Where it's like, we can change this. Right. We see a dystopian picture, and if we make one decision different, infinite multiverse theory save the raptor save the world. 01:08:16 Speaker 4: I'm still confused as to where these rogue aliens are coming from another dimension why it is why it is that they're never mind i'll let it go i'll let it go. 01:08:25 Speaker 2: They're from another dimension they want to go to the outer islands of north carolina and of course yes and they're a subset of a race that we don't really know all that much about right because mark was like. 01:08:36 Speaker 1: I i got i got nothing for this one I want to. 01:08:38 Speaker 2: Say they're Beezleborps, but that sounds. 01:08:40 Speaker 1: I'm just going to paper over this one, and we're just going to move on. 01:08:42 Speaker 2: Beezleborps sounds too silly. 01:08:44 Speaker 1: Too crazy. 01:08:45 Speaker 2: I'm going to need some time. 01:08:46 Speaker 1: Yeah. 01:08:48 Speaker 2: That's 100% what's going on. 01:08:49 Speaker 4: I like to imagine that he's like, every day he goes to the library and just reads a shit ton of sci-fi books, and then just like taking little notes. Yeah, taking little notes, listening to InfoWars, getting all crazy. So you asked earlier about North Korea. I did ask earlier about North Korea. I have a feeling I'm going to regret. 01:09:08 Speaker 2: No, maybe not. I think you're going to learn. I think you're going to learn something. Oh, no. 01:09:11 Speaker 5: With regard to North Korea, he said the only reason they're being so aggressive is that they're backed by an alien group that are powerful enemies of the U.S. And he said there's a definite group of off-world beings that back them. He declined to say which group, in which case it does not sound like it's the Reptoids, which is interesting. When asked about the North Korean nuclear tests and earthquake weapons... he actually didn't answer me directly about that. He kind of smiled when I asked him about that and didn't say anything. So I asked him in essence, does that mean that we're actually in more in war with North Korea and the beings backing them? And that these so-called nuclear tests are more like, you know, um, hits back and forth from each side. And, uh, again, he didn't say anything, but smiled. So, I kind of have the impression that in a sense we are already at war with North Korea. 01:10:16 Speaker 2: Yikes. Ooh, that's not good. No. Thankfully it's not true. At least not the way she's saying it. 01:10:23 Speaker 5: Right, right,

right. 01:10:23 Speaker 2: Although it does– It may be true that we're at a point where it's going to be very difficult to de-escalate. 01:10:28 Speaker 4: It's kind of like– It is very sci-fi in that it is kind of allegorical for what is currently happening. 01:10:37 Speaker 2: Right. 01:10:38 Speaker 1: Like, they are being backed. 01:10:39 Speaker 2: You see that a lot. 01:10:40 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. 01:10:42 Speaker 4: Like, there's a certain amount of relatively logical analysis behind his bullshit. 01:10:49 Speaker 2: Well, it's like him confessing that I'm a manipulative cult leader kind of guy. And on the last one, basically, metaphorically saying, I'm guilty of murder. Yeah. Like, there are, like... He's expressing real things in an artful way to some extent. And yeah, sure, there is China backing North Korea. And you could say that his version of some unnamed alien race is really just remnants of the communist bloc. 01:11:18 Speaker 1: Right. 01:11:18 Speaker 2: But here's something I also want to remind everybody of. Because I don't think that. 01:11:25 Speaker 1: All of this is real. 01:11:26 Speaker 2: I don't think that people understand this. A lot of people, and I don't know if Carrie Cassidy is on the same tip as this, but she spouts a lot of stuff that's very similar to this world view with the aliens and with alternative human history. A lot of people who believe in that believe the Jews are aliens. 01:11:47 Speaker 1: God damn it, Dan. 01:11:48 Speaker 2: Yeah. 01:11:49 Speaker 1: Why do you got to bring Pez back into this? 01:11:51 Speaker 2: Well, it's not even Pez. This is even weirder. They believe that the Hebrews are an out-of-space race that was installed in into like Atlantis and Lemuria, because they needed a balance between the Draconians and the Atlanteans. The Atlanteans were like a very feminine race of beings, and they were wise, and the Draconians, or the Satan-worshipping folks, they came in and they were really male and destructive and what have you, and so there were like As I understand, there were like nine or ten spots on Atlantis that needed to be filled or where there would be like population centers. 01:12:32 Speaker 1: Okay. 01:12:32 Speaker 2: And they needed to fill another one, so they brought in the Hebrews. 01:12:35 Speaker 1: So forced integration. 01:12:36 Speaker 2: Who were super logical and good at math and what have you. They were a very evolved space race. 01:12:45 Speaker 4: So is this positive anti-Semitism? 01:12:49 Speaker 2: Yeah. No. 01:12:50 Speaker 4: Neither. 01:12:52 Speaker 2: Neither. It's not good. 01:12:53 Speaker 1: Why are the Jews always involved? 01:12:56 Speaker 2: The Jews are always, like... Leave the Jews alone! It does seem like no matter how wacky or evil you get, whichever side of the spectrum. 01:13:05 Speaker 1: It always comes back to the Jews. 01:13:06 Speaker 2: Well, but in this conception, from what I've been able to gleam, because I've done some diving into this world a little bit, and it doesn't seem like it's negative. It's not hateful about the space Hebrews. 01:13:22 Speaker 1: Right. Say that one more time. 01:13:24 Speaker 2: The space Hebrews. 01:13:24 Speaker 1: There we go. 01:13:25 Speaker 2: Hanging out with spider leadership. But it's not negative in the same way that these anti-Semitic populations are like, fuck the Jews. 01:13:37 Speaker 1: Right. 01:13:37 Speaker 2: But at the same time. 01:13:39 Speaker 1: It's still singling out the Jews as being something other. Yeah. 01:13:43 Speaker 2: No matter where you are on the spectrum from crazy to evil. Right. No matter what, it seems like a through line through all of it is like the Jews aren't with us. 01:13:51 Speaker 1: Yeah. 01:13:51 Speaker 2: There's something else. And that's fucked up. 01:13:54 Speaker 1: I just don't understand that. 01:13:56 Speaker 2: Well, because. 01:13:57 Speaker 1: Is it because they killed Christ? It's because they killed Christ. 01:13:59 Speaker 2: I think it goes back to the money stuff. 01:14:01 Speaker 1: It always does. 01:14:02 Speaker 2: It goes back to usury and shit. Probably. Yeah. That sort of thing existed before... I don't know. There might be something else, too, that I don't fully understand, but that makes enough sense for me in terms of why you demonize a population. 01:14:18 Speaker 1: Right. 01:14:19 Speaker 2: You think that they're the cause of all your economic woes. 01:14:22 Speaker 1: The progenitors of all of that shit, yeah. 01:14:23 Speaker 2: They're the ones who are destroying us. 01:14:25 Speaker 1: Right. 01:14:26 Speaker 2: Whatever. I don't know. I just. 01:14:29 Speaker 1: If there's one lesson that I've learned from all of history, it's... Just leave the Jews alone, man. Just let them do their thing. 01:14:38 Speaker 2: Typically, when you hit a tipping point of people being mad at them, that's when really bad stuff happens. 01:14:43 Speaker 1: Everything goes wild, yeah. 01:14:45 Speaker 2: And us saying that, an anti-Semite would hear that and be like, of course it does. They have to fight back. Because as we know, even Alex Jones thinks that the Jewish mafia was involved in the Holocaust. 01:14:59 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, but that's true. 01:15:02 Speaker 2: So anyway... The raptors and the raptoids are in play in North Korea. 01:15:08 Speaker 1: Of course. 01:15:09 Speaker 2: But guess what? They were also involved in another very dramatic nuclear incident in American history. 01:15:18 Speaker 5: We talked about the Cuban Missile Crisis. He said the Cuban Missile Crisis was not about a Russia-U.S. standoff with missiles. 01:15:28 Speaker 2: Reasonable. 01:15:29 Speaker 5: There were three nukes that went off in outer space related to that incident. He said the Cuban Missile Crisis involved a fight with an ET race and that Kennedy was well aware of this. So that's a very interesting piece of history that appears to need to be rewritten and clarified. So I think it

would be fascinating to delve into that aspect and also see if we can get some corroboration out there. 01:15:58 Speaker 2: I bet you can find some corroboration because your version of corroboration is crazy people talking to you. 01:16:03 Speaker 1: Yeah. 01:16:04 Speaker 2: I'm willing to bet anything that someone would corroborate that. It'd be great. I'll corroborate it. 01:16:10 Speaker 4: I think my favorite thing about her versus Alex is that Alex would insist that this has been declassified. 01:16:20 Speaker 2: Totally. 01:16:21 Speaker 1: And she's just like, well, this is obvious. 01:16:23 Speaker 2: Yeah. 01:16:24 Speaker 1: Nobody knows about it. 01:16:25 Speaker 2: Yeah. 01:16:25 Speaker 1: Like, it's not been declassified. 01:16:27 Speaker 5: No. 01:16:27 Speaker 4: It doesn't matter if it's declassified or not. It's all happening around us. 01:16:31 Speaker 2: Well, but also where this information comes from is so fucking beyond classification. Yeah, that's a good point. But it doesn't matter. 01:16:37 Speaker 1: It's coming from Mark Richards. 01:16:38 Speaker 2: The only place it could come from is Mark Richards. Right. Or these other. 01:16:43 Speaker 1: Or these other yahoos. 01:16:44 Speaker 2: People who have maybe undergone traumatic experiences and have post-traumatic stress disorder. 01:16:49 Speaker 1: Calling them yahoos now, it's like... No, this is a lot of these people. 01:16:53 Speaker 2: No, they're still yahoos. 01:16:54 Speaker 1: That's true. 01:16:55 Speaker 2: Yeah. 01:16:55 Speaker 1: Well, but a lot of these people are mentally. 01:16:58 Speaker 2: Damaged in some way. 01:17:00 Speaker 1: You know, like all of this stuff. 01:17:02 Speaker 4: And like, it's hard to say what is, you know, I'm not going to sit here and say, well, these people aren't normal. 01:17:09 Speaker 1: But there is. 01:17:09 Speaker 4: Something that has happened within their brain chemistry that is fucked shit up. 01:17:16 Speaker 2: Yeah. 01:17:16 Speaker 4: Like and that does not preclude them from being happy or sad. Like this isn't an emotional state. 01:17:22 Speaker 1: This is just something within the way that their brain processes the world. 01:17:26 Speaker 2: And most of them, at least at this point, Mark Richards passed notwithstanding. They're not hurting anybody. No. 01:17:32 Speaker 1: And I am for them. 01:17:34 Speaker 2: Yeah. 01:17:34 Speaker 1: Like they are fine. 01:17:36 Speaker 4: If white supremacists would just turn their supremacy angle towards raptors. 01:17:42 Speaker 1: Great i'm totally cool with. 01:17:43 Speaker 2: It but it could never stay that way because. 01:17:46 Speaker 1: No they're they're violent monsters. 01:17:47 Speaker 2: And who knows what other things these people believe that aren't in these interviews yeah because we know that uh like i can't ever fucking remember his name robert david steel yeah he believes that zionists are attacking him. 01:18:03 Speaker 1: All over the place yeah that's true. 01:18:05 Speaker 2: So he can come on here and talk about a secret space program right but also buried in his beliefs are The Jews are running the world, and they're trying to attack me because I know the truth. I bet a lot of these other people who are on here have similar awful beliefs that just aren't being aired because the interview is about spider beings in Vietnam and shit like that. They don't need to talk about how, like, oh, also, blacks don't deserve rights. Yeah, that's a good point. 01:18:32 Speaker 1: We have to give a tentative. 01:18:36 Speaker 2: This is good. 01:18:36 Speaker 4: And there is also a certain amount of all of this that is allegorical for race-based fear and hatred. 01:18:44 Speaker 2: Some of it. 01:18:44 Speaker 1: Like, I mean, you can believe in spider leadership. 01:18:51 Speaker 2: Spider leadership. 01:18:53 Speaker 4: You can believe in all of that, but ultimately what that gets back to is This is not white people's fault. Right. 01:19:00 Speaker 1: This is not. 01:19:01 Speaker 4: You know, this is all done by other people, and we don't have to take any responsibility for our own actions. 01:19:08 Speaker 2: Now, the flip side of it that's actually fairly interesting is that when he's talking about North Korea... He's saying it's not North Korea's fault. Right. They're just working with the wrong aliens. 01:19:18 Speaker 1: Right. 01:19:19 Speaker 2: So to some extent. 01:19:20 Speaker 1: Say that one more time. 01:19:21 Speaker 2: They're working with the wrong aliens, baby. There we go. In some ways, there is a unifying of humanity in the. 01:19:27 Speaker 1: Right. 01:19:28 Speaker 2: We are all but the playthings of alien races. Right. 01:19:31 Speaker 1: Which in a lot of ways is just all religion is. 01:19:35 Speaker 2: But it's lame. 01:19:36 Speaker 1: It's super lame. 01:19:37 Speaker 2: It's lame in a fun way. 01:19:39 Speaker 3: It is. 01:19:39 Speaker 1: It is fun. 01:19:40 Speaker 5: Yeah. 01:19:41 Speaker 1: It's more fun than not to. 01:19:42 Speaker 4: to blame aliens for North Korea than an insane religious dictatorship theocracy built around a god king. 01:19:50 Speaker 2: Well, it's probably less scary because you get to a point where you can't really be scared of giant malevolent alien races. There's just nothing you can do about it. You know what I mean? 01:19:59 Speaker 1: Yeah, that is kind of true. 01:20:01 Speaker 2: And in many ways, there's not. 01:20:03 Speaker 1: Let go and let raptors. 01:20:04 Speaker 2: Right. 01:20:04 Speaker 1: That's what I say. 01:20:05 Speaker 2: There's not a whole lot you can really do about Kim Jong-un yourself either, but he's still human. And when you dehumanize the threat, it allows you to sort of be less worried about it. Right. It takes you out of the game, too, though. That's one of the things that a criticism of Alex Jones that people levy that I think is really reasonable and that he is by creating like this giant globalist cabal

that has their fingers in everything and are controlling stuff. Essentially, what you do is you breed powerlessness in your audience. 01:20:40 Speaker 5: Yeah. 01:20:41 Speaker 2: Because you can scream all you want, but at the end of the day, all he's trying to do is get you to give him money so he can continue to fight the globalists by screaming and having you give him more money. Yeah. It's a self-perpetuating cycle. 01:20:53 Speaker 1: Of course. 01:20:54 Speaker 2: Whereas. 01:20:55 Speaker 4: You know, it's just like we create terrorism so we can spend more money fighting terrorism that creates terrorism so we can spend more money fighting terrorism. 01:21:02 Speaker 2: Right. 01:21:02 Speaker 4: By the way, all of the senators voted for more money to the military. 01:21:08 Speaker 1: We can't have college. We can't have health care. 01:21:11 Speaker 4: But God damn it. If we don't need to spend another 200 fucking billion dollars on God damn military or 700 billion dollar fucking budget. 01:21:19 Speaker 2: Yeah. 01:21:19 Speaker 1: Jesus Christ. Kamala Harris. I like you. Why are you doing this to us? 01:21:24 Speaker 2: Because it's politically toxic not to. Yeah. But that's a bigger problem. 01:21:30 Speaker 4: Which is an interesting thing in that one of the big criticisms against Bernie has always been his foreign policy is bullshit. 01:21:36 Speaker 1: And he came out and was like, hey, America's foreign policy is bullshit. And we're like, you can't say that. 01:21:42 Speaker 2: Who are you, Ron Paul? Yeah, right. 01:21:45 Speaker 1: Go on, RT, you socialist. 01:21:48 Speaker 2: But what I'm getting at, I think, is that if Alex Jones really believed in the globalists, let's say, and he really wanted to encourage his audience to take change, he would actually pinpoint specific actionable things that people can do that would help in this fight against globalists. Instead, they're all child-murdering, pedophile, cultist members, and it's a spiritual battleground. There's nothing you can do except pray, And give him money. 01:22:19 Speaker 1: And give him money, yeah. 01:22:20 Speaker 2: And, I mean, that would be pathetic if you saw that on the left. 01:22:24 Speaker 1: Right. 01:22:25 Speaker 2: And maybe you do, and I just don't know who that person is. But generally, when I listen to things. 01:22:30 Speaker 4: I mean, the entire Democratic Party, at the end of the day, is that. 01:22:34 Speaker 2: Isn't it? Democrats and Republicans are not of interest to me. That's true. As a concept, I find them tiresome. Very true. I think there's more. 01:22:47 Speaker 2: I think progressive and conservative are much more applicable labels. 01:22:51 Speaker 1: Well, at this point, Nazi and not-Nazi seems to be far more applicable. 01:22:56 Speaker 2: I think that's true also. But they're not parties. So it's not something that you sign up to be a part of. It's just the orientation of your beliefs. Do you want to move forward or do you want to try and maintain a false past? I think that those are the true parties. Right. Yeah. But there's no membership in any of them. 01:23:16 Speaker 1: Says the centrist. Andy in Kansas. 01:23:25 Speaker 2: Let's get back to Raptors. So in this next clip. 01:23:30 Speaker 4: I think ultimately my analysis of all of this is this is all about removing personal responsibility for anything that's happening. 01:23:40 Speaker 2: For Mark Richards because he murdered a guy? 01:23:42 Speaker 1: No, for all of us. For all of these conspiracy theorists and all of this. 01:23:46 Speaker 4: Bullshit, it's like we can't comprehend the total and just world-shattering evil that is within every human being. 01:24:00 Speaker 2: The potential, certainly. 01:24:02 Speaker 4: And so they create all of this stuff in order to try and deal with it. 01:24:06 Speaker 2: And think about how Alex's... narratives about uh like social indoctrination really work towards like hey you might hate black people that's okay because you've been brainwashed into doing it by the globalists who are secretly jews yeah you've been brainwashed into doing that it's not you right it's not you and that's just tribal right so you hate you you're fine you're racist it's totally fine yeah it's the the the functionality of it is to Give you powerlessness except that which serves his immediate interests. Yeah. And to make you feel better about bigotry that already lives within you. Right. And both of those are profoundly negative. And they are related to personal responsibility. Right. So if you do have bigoted tendencies, you're behooved to address them. 01:24:57 Speaker 4: Right. 01:24:57 Speaker 2: You're behooved to look at them and try and work past them because you can. 01:25:03 Speaker 1: Right. 01:25:04 Speaker 2: You can. 01:25:04 Speaker 1: So then I do want to do something... With our show that is, as you would say, a fight against that powerlessness. 01:25:13 Speaker 2: Go shit on the Koch brothers' lawn. 01:25:14 Speaker 1: Fuck yeah. There are a lot of things that you can do as a policy walk. If you're a policy walk in Kansas. 01:25:18 Speaker 4: Organize, organize, and fucking, there's a real enemy, and it's the oligarchs who control the government. 01:25:25 Speaker 1: That's the real enemy. 01:25:27 Speaker 2: Let's wait until this show gets a little bit bigger before we try and, like. 01:25:31 Speaker 1: We need to organize into a political action committee. No. 01:25:34 Speaker 2: But I do agree that there should be, like... we should try and explore the possibility of like action things or action items where like, this is, there's something, but that's. 01:25:45 Speaker 4: Absolutely, but that's also, and the other thing is, if you, if you are, if you do have bigoted tendencies and you are listening to this show, don't kill yourself yet. 01:25:54 Speaker 1: Uh, Examine what you're doing. 01:25:55 Speaker 4: Examine why it is that you feel differently about different people and see

if that is some sort of bigotry. 01:26:01 Speaker 2: That's today's action item. 01:26:02 Speaker 1: Like we like I do. I feel that all the time. Like, am I? 01:26:09 Speaker 4: No, it's the juice for me. Now, it is one of those things where, you know. Treatment towards women. All of these different things, and I constantly re-examine every opinion. 01:26:21 Speaker 1: Like, I've had... Like, I just had this lady tweet at me, and. 01:26:26 Speaker 2: I saw that. 01:26:27 Speaker 1: Yeah. 01:26:28 Speaker 2: You were a dick. I was a dick. 01:26:30 Speaker 1: It was fantastic. It felt so good. It was funny. It was so good. I felt so good. 01:26:35 Speaker 4: And that's another thing where I was like... I had to think about it because I tweeted straight from my dick behavior. 01:26:42 Speaker 2: But it wasn't misogyny that motivated that. 01:26:44 Speaker 1: I know, but I had to think about that immediately after. 01:26:48 Speaker 4: I had to go through all of my thought process there and try and figure out, would I have said the same thing to a Marine or somebody who could. 01:26:58 Speaker 1: fucking straight up murder me. 01:27:00 Speaker 2: I think you would. 01:27:01 Speaker 1: And I goddamn would have. 01:27:02 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you would have. 01:27:03 Speaker 1: Like, oh yeah, absolutely. 01:27:04 Speaker 2: I don't think there was much thought process at all that went into that response. 01:27:08 Speaker 1: No, but it was fun. 01:27:09 Speaker 2: I enjoyed it. Anyway, let's not fucking do a talking dead version of your tweets. 01:27:14 Speaker 4: No, but that's... I'm not trying to... It's not a personal... Look, I'm not trying to brag. 01:27:19 Speaker 2: Look, this is. 01:27:19 Speaker 1: I'm not trying to brag, but I'm the. 01:27:21 Speaker 4: But that's something that I do want to make sure that I think about constantly is. 01:27:25 Speaker 2: Sure. 01:27:25 Speaker 1: Why am I treating the people the way I am? 01:27:28 Speaker 4: And is this influenced by a bias that I have towards them? 01:27:31 Speaker 2: That's a good thing to think about. I'm not sure about thinking about it constantly in the sense that, like, you don't need to be. 01:27:37 Speaker 1: I mean, it's not like every single conversation I have. 01:27:39 Speaker 2: It shouldn't overwhelm you, but it is something to keep an eye on. 01:27:42 Speaker 1: Absolutely. 01:27:43 Speaker 2: Anyway. I had a point, but I lost it. 01:27:46 Speaker 1: I love how this is all coming from... Raptors are real. 01:27:49 Speaker 2: Speaking of which, raptors have been a part of the world for a long time. 01:27:54 Speaker 1: Okay. Slave trade. 01:27:55 Speaker 5: Actually, I asked him about the dragons in the Middle Ages that are written about, of course, in the mythology having to do with knights and all of that. And I was curious what dragons were, like which species of reptile or Draco or whatever. He said they... are Dracos and Raptors. Those are the ones that were actually the dragons they were fighting in the Middle Ages. 01:28:23 Speaker 1: Dracarys. 01:28:24 Speaker 5: So apparently, of course, England has a long history surrounding the dragons, as does China, which is interesting. 01:28:36 Speaker 2: It is interesting. 01:28:36 Speaker 1: That is very interesting. 01:28:37 Speaker 2: Very interesting. 01:28:38 Speaker 1: Fascinating. 01:28:39 Speaker 2: So dragons are real. 01:28:40 Speaker 1: They are Dracos and raptors. 01:28:42 Speaker 2: And raptors. 01:28:43 Speaker 4: So I would say let's go with Chinese dragons because they don't have wings. 01:28:47 Speaker 1: We're going to call those... Probably raptors. We're going to call those raptors. 01:28:50 Speaker 2: Because they don't fly. 01:28:51 Speaker 1: And Dracos. 01:28:53 Speaker 2: Dracos don't necessarily fly, though, either. 01:28:55 Speaker 1: But Draco suggests that they have wings. 01:28:58 Speaker 2: Sure. It's fascinating to me, like, what won't she believe? 01:29:09 Speaker 1: That is a really good question. 01:29:11 Speaker 2: We should try and repackage ourselves as, like, whistleblowers and see if she would interview us. 01:29:15 Speaker 1: Oh, that'd be great. 01:29:17 Speaker 2: I feel like I could send a tip in or something like, but I haven't taken an improv class. I couldn't roll with it. I could roll with it. I wouldn't be able to. Okay, well, then it's on you, then. 01:29:25 Speaker 1: Then it's on me? 01:29:25 Speaker 2: Yeah. All right. Put that in your calendar. 01:29:28 Speaker 1: Actionable items for today. 01:29:30 Speaker 2: Yeah, contact Carrie Cassidy. 01:29:31 Speaker 5: Yeah. 01:29:32 Speaker 2: So we have one more clip. It's the outro of her interview, and this is profoundly disgraceful. 01:29:39 Speaker 5: So that covers everything, I believe. And I want to thank everyone for watching and for being interested in what Mark Richards has to say. His wife, Joanne, is out on the circuit. She has a website. And I will put the URL here and encourage you to purchase his written materials as well. He writes constantly and is a prolific writer. He's got lots of information out there in written form, and he's always writing more. So it's really fascinating information. He is a very principled and fascinating individual and highly intelligent and conducts himself as a military officer at all times. So thanks again for watching and for your support. 01:30:33 Speaker 2: You know who, I mean, a lot of crazy people conduct themselves as military people. 01:30:37 Speaker 1: Like Sheriff fucking Clark. 01:30:39 Speaker 2: With his fake badges and shit. 01:30:40 Speaker 1: Like that kind of piece of shit. 01:30:42 Speaker 2: I really think that, I mean, at the end of the day, it is harmless and it is just fun narratives being pushed out. But at the same time, she's legitimizing a murderer. 01:30:52 Speaker 5: Yeah. 01:30:53 Speaker 2: Murderer con man who's trying to make money. And, you know, whatever. It's his wife who's making money. Yeah.

And he's probably not, doesn't have access to a lot of that. I'm fine with her having a career out of this. He's not getting out of prison anytime soon. 01:31:06 Speaker 1: Thank God. 01:31:07 Speaker 2: So I'm very conflicted, though, because she's like, he's a principled man, that sort of stuff. It's like, I don't like the reclaiming of humanity for this guy to a certain extent. 01:31:19 Speaker 1: Yeah. 01:31:20 Speaker 2: Makes me a little uncomfortable. 01:31:21 Speaker 1: I mean, to reclaim it, he would have to have had it in the first place. 01:31:24 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. 01:31:25 Speaker 1: I think he was probably just a psychopath from the jump. 01:31:28 Speaker 2: Probably. So, we're done. I had a thought, though, about these new buttons we've got. Switching gears into this. Because we're done with this Dragon Raptor bullshit for now. Until there's another update. 01:31:43 Speaker 1: Yes. 01:31:44 Speaker 2: The eighth visit to. 01:31:46 Speaker 1: Mark Richards? 01:31:46 Speaker 2: Yeah. 01:31:47 Speaker 4: I like somehow we're like, We're all Mark Richards when we go to Project Camelot. 01:31:52 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, she doesn't post things all that often. Right. 01:31:56 Speaker 5: Okay. 01:31:56 Speaker 2: She was just at some seminar. She gave a speech in Ireland, and I'll check in on that. But she doesn't post things all that often, and it happened last week. It's a big deal. Perfect. We got a new update for Mark Richards. 01:32:08 Speaker 1: Perfect. 01:32:09 Speaker 2: But these buttons. We got new buttons. Yes. We tweeted out a picture of them. They're amazing. And if you would like one of these buttons, here's my proposal. Yes. I need, for you, the listener, the wonk, instead of donating money to get one of these buttons, I propose that you send us at knowledgefight at gmail.com, our email address, proof that you have posted a link to our website on a Reddit board or a message board somewhere, something like that. 01:32:43 Speaker 1: You craven opportunist. 01:32:45 Speaker 2: Why not, though? 01:32:46 Speaker 1: That's a good point. 01:32:47 Speaker 2: Help get the word out. Send a link somewhere. Give a recommendation. Not on Facebook, necessarily. Right. Even though, I don't know if that counts. Wherever. Some message board where there's some fucking activity. Don't go to one of these dead Reddits. 01:33:00 Speaker 4: Or if you've donated to Puerto Rico. 01:33:04 Speaker 1: Or if you have. 01:33:05 Speaker 2: Fuck you. 01:33:05 Speaker 1: Absolutely. Fuck you. 01:33:07 Speaker 2: No, no, no. 01:33:07 Speaker 1: I mean this. I mean it. 01:33:09 Speaker 2: I don't care about charity. I want to get the word out. No, I support that. 01:33:13 Speaker 1: Yeah. No, there's so many things. 01:33:16 Speaker 4: And, you know, as much as we're hoping to turn this into something that we can do, well, as you want to, you know, full time, like every night, there's also a lot more shit going on. 01:33:30 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true.

01:33:30 Speaker 1: So protest. 01:33:32 Speaker 4: If you shit on the Koch brothers lawn, I will send you 10 buttons. 01:33:36 Speaker 2: We'll make a shirt for you. 01:33:37 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. 01:33:38 Speaker 2: Individual shirt. 01:33:38 Speaker 1: We'll make a Hillary for prison shirt for you. 01:33:42 Speaker 2: We'll have to, or Hillary for MJ-12. 01:33:46 Speaker 1: Yeah, ooh, that'd be fun. Because right now she's not a member, according to Mark. 01:33:51 Speaker 2: Well, it's not real. Yeah. But, yeah, if you send us an email address, some sort of acknowledgement that you donated to one of these islands, because Puerto Rico's not the only one that needs help at this point. No, I mean, fuck. 01:34:04 Speaker 1: That or proof. 01:34:06 Speaker 2: That you posted a link to us on Reddit. 01:34:08 Speaker 1: It'd be nice if you did both. 01:34:10 Speaker 2: If you antagonize the Alex Jones fans on the at InfoWars. 01:34:14 Speaker 1: That'd be great. 01:34:15 Speaker 2: The Reddit slash InfoWars. 01:34:17 Speaker 1: That'd be fun. 01:34:19 Speaker 2: Something like that. We'll send you one of these new buttons. Also send us your address. Yeah. Promise not to dox you. That is the knowledge fight promise. 01:34:27 Speaker 4: Right. 01:34:27 Speaker 1: I did get one return to me and I lost the address. 01:34:32 Speaker 4: So send an email if you haven't gotten the button because I was apparently 20 cents short. 01:34:38 Speaker 2: Okay. Yeah, if you have emailed us about the buttons and you haven't gotten it, check back in. 01:34:43 Speaker 1: Yeah, I've sent out pretty much all of them and I got one back. 01:34:47 Speaker 2: Mailing is hard. 01:34:49 Speaker 1: Toxic mailing is hard, too. 01:34:51 Speaker 2: It's true. So, we have a website. 01:34:55 Speaker 1: Dan. 01:34:56 Speaker 2: I'm deflated. 01:34:56 Speaker 1: What's our website? 01:34:57 Speaker 2: Knowledgefight.com. 01:34:59 Speaker 1: Dan, what's our Twitter handle? 01:35:00 Speaker 2: Knowledge underscore fight. 01:35:02 Speaker 1: Dan, where can you find us? 01:35:03 Speaker 2: Facebook. 01:35:03 Speaker 1: Facebook. Where else can you find us? 01:35:05 Speaker 2: iTunes, subscribe. 01:35:07 Speaker 1: Where else can you find us? 01:35:08 Speaker 2: On the streets. You can find us on the streets. 01:35:12 Speaker 1: Okay. 01:35:12 Speaker 2: Out there chopping shit up, set tripping with raptors. 01:35:15 Speaker 1: Absolutely. 01:35:16 Speaker 2: That's where we be. 01:35:17 Speaker 1: Wait, are our names Malaysian sounding or are we raptors? 01:35:20 Speaker 2: I don't know. I think they're made up. Dan. 01:35:22 Speaker 1: And Dan, I have one more question for you. Dan. 01:35:25 Speaker 2: Jordan. 01:35:26 Speaker 1: I know. 01:35:27 Speaker 2: This is bullshit. You guys both have Dan in your name. That's ridiculous. 01:35:30 Speaker 1: Why are you saying that? 01:35:31 Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm pretending I'm a skeptical Mark Richards fan. All right. 01:35:34 Speaker 1: All right. One more question, Dan. If there is. 01:35:40 Speaker 2: You know what? Actually, I have a theory. 01:35:41 Speaker 1: Let's say we have. 01:35:42 Speaker 2: I have a theory. Okay. So I think that John Rappaport doesn't have dentures. Okay. I think... Here's a good theory. I think it's quite possible that he doesn't have human teeth to begin with. 01:35:58 Speaker 1: What? 01:35:59 Speaker 2: I think that it's within the realm of possibility that he. 01:36:05 Speaker 2: Has raptor teeth. 01:36:06 Speaker 4: No! Then in that case, since we know that Mark Richards loves raptors and raptors are actually evil, then that means you can go fuck yourself, John Rappaport. 01:36:16 Speaker 2: You're not going to kill me for chocolate. 01:36:18 Speaker 1: Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding. Hello, Alex. 01:36:23 Speaker 3: I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. 01:36:25 Speaker 4: I love your work. 01:36:26 Speaker 1: I love you.