Full Transcript for #125: Project Camelot's War In Heaven

down. 00:04:03 Speaker 3: You're going to have to work very hard, and thankfully, thankfully none of that will be on my shoulders. 00:04:08 Speaker 1: None. Zero percent of watching that movie. 00:04:11 Speaker 6: And I realize that before we jump into that deep water thing, I realize that I need a break and that the audience needs a break from Alex Jones. So here's a clip of what we're going to be covering today. 00:04:24 Speaker 5: It's really easy to blow up a planet. For example, Earth. 00:04:28 Speaker 2: Did you hear what he just said? Did you hear what that man just said? 00:04:31 Speaker 1: I don't care. I don't need to know. Play it again. 00:04:35 Speaker 5: It's really easy to blow up a planet. For example, Earth. 00:04:39 Speaker 2: For example, Earth. 00:04:42 Speaker 4: Yes. 00:04:44 Speaker 6: We are, ladies and gentlemen, doing a Project Camelot episode today. 00:04:48 Speaker 1: I mean, turn it up. 00:04:49 Speaker 2: Oh, okay. Guys, so you know, pre-show, Jordan said, turn my headphones down. 00:04:55 Speaker 1: That's because the music was insanely loud. It wasn't that loud. 00:04:58 Speaker 3: But now that I know we're Project Camelotting, I want it blaring in my ears. 00:05:02 Speaker 2: You want to fully hear this show. 00:05:02 Speaker 1: I want it all over the place. 00:05:04 Speaker 6: So I keep my finger on the pulse of Project Camelot. 00:05:08 Speaker 1: Of course. 00:05:09 Speaker 6: I check in from time to time to see if Mark Richards has a repeat appearance. Frankly, who doesn't keep a pulse on Project Camelot? 00:05:16 Speaker 2: That's a great question. 00:05:17 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:05:17 Speaker 2: So I generally find stuff that's like, who gives a shit? 00:05:22 Speaker 6: Right. There'll be weird interviews. I'm like, I don't care. I'm not even going to listen to this two hours of nonsense. But I saw one that I was like, oh, we got to get into this. There is a gentleman by the name of Courtney Brown. And he comes on the show. And they talk about the war in heaven. 00:05:42 Speaker 1: Yes. Yes. 00:05:44 Speaker 2: So, Jordan. 00:05:45 Speaker 1: Is it literal heaven? Okay, don't spoil it. Don't spoil it. I want to know. I want to know. 00:05:49 Speaker 6: Let's start off as the interview starts out with Carrie Cassidy, our friend. 00:05:53 Speaker 1: Our beautiful Carrie Callahan. 00:05:55 Speaker 2: Probably more anti-Semitic than we want to think. 00:05:57 Speaker 1: Don't talk about it. 00:05:58 Speaker 2: Giving an introduction to the show. 00:06:00 Speaker 5: Hi, everyone. 00:06:02 Speaker 8: I'm Carrie Cassidy from Project Camelot. And I'm here tonight with Courtney Brown. And we're going to be talking about his team's remote viewing of a phrase from the Bible called War in Heaven. And this should be a really fascinating show. I'm going to bring Courtney on the screen here with me. And Courtney, say hello to everyone. 00:06:24 Speaker 5: Hi, everyone. I'm glad to be here. Thanks for having me here. 00:06:29

Speaker 2: You're welcome. So, Jordan. 00:06:31 Speaker 1: Did she just say remote viewing? 00:06:34 Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. 00:06:35 Speaker 4: Oh, yeah. 00:06:36 Speaker 1: And coupled that with the phrase, a war in heaven. 00:06:39 Speaker 2: Yes. 00:06:40 Speaker 1: So these guys are going to be remote viewing. Like they're going to anywhere office in. 00:06:48 Speaker 3: They're going to do a conference call with the war in heaven. 00:06:51 Speaker 2: What do you know about remote viewing? 00:06:53 Speaker 1: I know nothing about remote viewing. 00:06:55 Speaker 2: I do not know everything about it, but I do know that it's not real. 00:06:59 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, all right. No, no, you're right. I should have caveated that. 00:07:03 Speaker 2: I know that much. 00:07:04 Speaker 6: We'll get into that a little bit more as the episode goes along because he gets into some of the specifics of it and what have you. And I can't stress enough, you have no idea where this is going. This is going to be one of the more fucked up episodes that we've ever gone over. Okay. And unintentionally so. Carrie Cassidy has no idea either what she's doing. Okay. 00:07:31 Speaker 2: As she never does. 00:07:32 Speaker 5: Right. 00:07:33 Speaker 6: But I don't want to give away too much too early. So let's get into this next clip where Courtney Brown gives an explanation of what he does. 00:07:42 Speaker 1: He FaceTimes Heaven. 00:07:44 Speaker 2: Basically. 00:07:44 Speaker 5: Yeah. 00:07:45 Speaker 2: So he introduces his whole shit in this next clip. 00:07:49 Speaker 5: What I'd like to. 00:07:49 Speaker 8: Do in this case, I do think a lot of people will know who you are, but give yourself a brief introduction, and then we'll just launch into the premise of your remote viewing of The War in Heaven and perhaps introduce the various viewers that were involved. 00:08:08 Speaker 6: Also, he's going to make reference to people who are the remote viewers. One of them is named Aziz. One of them, I can't remember her name, but it's a normal name. And then another one is named Princess. So don't be distracted by him referencing Princess when it comes up. 00:08:22 Speaker 3: So is the premise to remote viewing two firemen are butt-fucking in a smoke-filled room? 00:08:27 Speaker 2: What does that mean? 00:08:28 Speaker 1: That's an old John Fox joke. 00:08:30 Speaker 2: Oh, I thought that was. 00:08:31 Speaker 1: It's one of my favorites. It's such an awful joke. 00:08:33 Speaker 6: I thought it was like the lazy dog jumps over the sleeping fox. 00:08:37 Speaker 1: No, no, no. 00:08:38 Speaker 2: Like a typing test. two firefighters are butt-fucking. 00:08:41 Speaker 1: No, no, no. That's my vocal warm-up before I do a show. 00:08:46 Speaker 6: Two firemen are butt-fucking. So anyway, back to Courtney. 00:08:51 Speaker 5: Okay, sure. Well, I'm Courtney Brown, as you know, and I'm the director of the Farsight Institute. And the Farsight Institute is a non-profit, and we are the largest, biggest venue of public, fully open public projects for remote viewing anywhere. And so what we do is we use remote viewing, which is a mental procedure that was developed originally by the United States Intelligence Services, U.S. Army, military, to use for espionage purposes. And we're civilian, and we use procedures that are derivative of those original military procedures, and we use them for explorations. and scientific experiments. 00:09:39 Speaker 2: So where? 00:09:39 Speaker 5: We have a huge number of projects that we've done and are available to see on our website, farsight.org, F-A-R-S-I-G-H-T, like seeingfar.org, O-R-G. Yep. And most of everything that we have up there is for free. Some premium projects are sold as movies. What are they about? 00:09:58 Speaker 2: Well, I went to Farsight. 00:10:00 Speaker 1: These movies about? 00:10:01 Speaker 6: I went to Farsight.org and if you go, you can find a bunch of stuff. And this guy has done... I mean, if what he was doing was real, he's doing the Lord's work. 00:10:12 Speaker 1: Oh, yeah? Is he working really hard? 00:10:14 Speaker 6: He remote viewed back into Hitler's mind back when he was giving speeches. 00:10:18 Speaker 1: That's a great fucking idea. 00:10:20 Speaker 6: He figured out 9-11. He's figured out what happened with the JFK assassination. He solved the mystery of Martin Luther King. Roswell, Area 51, the Tunguska explosion. The Giza pyramids. He solved the mysteries of multiple universes. He's figured out climate change. Atlantis, also, he's done that. 00:10:41 Speaker 1: Throw that one in there. Yeah, all those things. We got real problems. We got fake problems. Toss them all in there. 00:10:46 Speaker 2: It's very impressive stuff. 00:10:48 Speaker 1: He's figured out 9-11. 00:10:51 Speaker 2: Absolutely. 00:10:52 Speaker 1: Can you give me an idea of what he's figured out? 00:10:54 Speaker 2: That one's behind the paywall. 00:10:58 Speaker 1: Of course it is! Of course it is! I watched a bunch. It's released as a movie. 00:11:03 Speaker 6: I watched a bunch of the videos that are free and they're the most ridiculous things ever. 00:11:07 Speaker 8: Okay. 00:11:08 Speaker 6: It's someone standing at a dry erase board, usually in front of a green screen. 00:11:12 Speaker 1: Perfect. 00:11:13 Speaker 2: And so the green screen will have some cool image behind it. 00:11:16 Speaker 1: I'm already sold. 00:11:17 Speaker 6: And there's someone at a dry erase board being like, I see sand, lots of sand. 00:11:21 Speaker 2: Like, oh, that. 00:11:23 Speaker 1: Trust it. 00:11:23 Speaker 2: Atlantis. 00:11:24 Speaker 1: Trust it. 00:11:24 Speaker 2: Ding, ding, ding. 00:11:25 Speaker 1: Nailed it. 00:11:25 Speaker 6: So in that clip there, you heard him say, though, that we use government CIA-approved techniques. 00:11:32 Speaker 2: Right. Or whatever. 00:11:33 Speaker 6: In another interview I heard with him, he was complaining that the CIA and the government

weren't using this remote-viewing technology correctly. 00:11:39 Speaker 1: That's right. Exactly. 00:11:40 Speaker 3: If he's figured out all of that shit with only civilian funds behind a paywall, then imagine what DARPA could do with this groundbreaking revolutionary technology that allows you to see inside the mind of hell. 00:11:54 Speaker 1: Hitler while giving a speech. 00:11:55 Speaker 2: In the past, no less. 00:11:56 Speaker 1: In the past? 00:11:57 Speaker 2: It's basically time travel. 00:11:58 Speaker 1: Yes, it's time travel. 00:11:59 Speaker 6: So what he's referring to is this thing called Project Stargate, sometimes referred to as Operation Stargate. 00:12:06 Speaker 1: Kurt Russell was in that, right? 00:12:07 Speaker 2: Absolutely. 00:12:08 Speaker 6: It's the umbrella name of a series of secret projects back from the 70s and 80s that the government was doing to look into remote viewing and psychics. 00:12:17 Speaker 1: That crazy government. 00:12:17 Speaker 6: And the reason they were doing that is because there were rumors flying around that Russia was doing it. And they needed to keep up lest the Russians have a remote viewing leg up. 00:12:28 Speaker 1: Lest the Russians figure out psychics. 00:12:30 Speaker 2: Right. And they have a psychic advantage over us. 00:12:33 Speaker 1: Okay. 00:12:33 Speaker 6: And so the project ended up being discontinued in the 90s because of that. 00:12:40 Speaker 1: On account of dumbness? 00:12:41 Speaker 7: Yes. 00:12:41 Speaker 6: Because we're not getting any goddamn results out of this. This is absurd. Why do we keep doing this? So that's the government aspect that he's talking about. 00:12:48 Speaker 1: Is that the, the John Ronson, they stare at goats. 00:12:51 Speaker 2: The men who stare at goats. 00:12:52 Speaker 8: Yes. 00:12:52 Speaker 2: A movie about, well, he wrote a book first. 00:12:55 Speaker 1: It wasn't right. 00:12:56 Speaker 2: Right. Yeah. 00:12:57 Speaker 6: And so the other, the other piece of it is like the people have tried constantly to provide empirical evidence that remote viewing is possible. And every time they do so, The remote viewer will give incredibly vague suggestions of like, I see a tree, stuff like that. And then if you want to believe it, you'll go ahead and be like, oh, that's proof. That's proof enough for me. But it's the thinnest shit ever. It's not a real thing that people can control. 00:13:24 Speaker 1: It's a psychic. 00:13:25 Speaker 3: It's the psychic going, I'm seeing somebody with the letter M in your life. 00:13:30 Speaker 1: You know, that kind of thing. And then you just fill in the blanks. 00:13:32 Speaker 2: But I am painting a picture. Intentionally. 00:13:35 Speaker 5: Yes. 00:13:36 Speaker 2: Where these people are just, like, sort of making it up. 00:13:39 Speaker 1: They're goofy cats. 00:13:42 Speaker 2: They're just standing in front of a dry erase board making shit up. Who wouldn't? Basically doing an improv game. 00:13:46

Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:13:47 Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. 00:13:49 Speaker 1: That's what you should be saying. 00:13:51 Speaker 2: But Courtney Brown wants to tell you something else. 00:13:52 Speaker 1: What's that? 00:13:53 Speaker 2: He wants to tell you about the rigorous training. 00:13:56 Speaker 1: The what? 00:13:56 Speaker 2: That his remote viewers go through. 00:13:58 Speaker 1: Okay. 00:13:59 Speaker 2: Listen to this. 00:13:59 Speaker 3: All right. 00:14:00 Speaker 5: Typically the training for people who do training at Farsight The training, just the beginning training takes nine months and that's twice a week all day for nine months without a break. So you're talking about between 16 and 20 hours of work every week for nine months straight. And that's before anybody. 00:14:22 Speaker 8: In the world. 00:14:22 Speaker 2: Well, real quick, but while you're screaming. No, no, no. Hold on. Hold on. 00:14:27 Speaker 6: While you're screaming about crazy and like that's nonsense and who would do this? 00:14:30 Speaker 1: You would. 00:14:31 Speaker 2: No, I wouldn't. 00:14:32 Speaker 1: You specifically. 00:14:33 Speaker 2: No, I mean. 00:14:33 Speaker 1: You do what you do. 00:14:34 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's a fair point. 00:14:36 Speaker 2: All right, I'm going to do it. 00:14:37 Speaker 6: There was a place in Columbia, Missouri, where I spent a large portion of my life called the School of Metaphysics. 00:14:43 Speaker 2: Right. 00:14:44 Speaker 6: And it was this non-accredited school that someone had set up, and you'd have to do really rigorous training. 00:14:51 Speaker 2: I know this because a friend of mine got duped by them. 00:14:54 Speaker 1: Of course. 00:14:54 Speaker 6: And spent tons and tons of money trying to come up the ranks, Scientology style. And they would have similar things where you'd have these long sessions where you'd need to go over all this stuff. It's a classical technique of breaking people's will. 00:15:08 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:15:09 Speaker 1: It's cult behavior. It's cult programming. 00:15:11 Speaker 6: It's not an aggressive technique in terms of sleep deprivation and playing loud music and sticking dogs on you. But it is a way of letting your guard down in a slightly friendly way. or supposed academic way in order to rebuild you in the mold that they want you to be in. 00:15:29 Speaker 1: It's just like base camp, or base camp, boot camp? 00:15:33 Speaker 2: Sure, yeah. 00:15:34 Speaker 1: It's just like that. 00:15:35 Speaker 2: So when he's describing this, it's like, okay. 00:15:37 Speaker 1: It's the school of hard knocks to the mind. 00:15:39 Speaker 6: Well, the first time that I heard this, when he's describing this, I'm like, first of all, that's a lot. But then my second thought immediately was like, oh, all you're doing is pre-selecting that the people who come out of that training are... are going to be the people who are crazy enough to have gone through it in the

first place. 00:15:53 Speaker 7: Right. 00:15:54 Speaker 6: And that way, your organization will never be infiltrated with naysayers. You'll never have people who are involved who are like, hey, maybe I'm not actually doing anything. 00:16:02 Speaker 1: Says who? 00:16:03 Speaker 5: Me. 00:16:03 Speaker 2: Anyway, back to. 00:16:05 Speaker 3: New knowledge fight goal for 2018. 00:16:07 Speaker 1: Infiltrate these idiots. 00:16:09 Speaker 2: The Farsight Academy? 00:16:10 Speaker 1: Of course. 00:16:11 Speaker 6: Also get them to change the name. Too close to... I. 00:16:14 Speaker 1: Originally thought it was called Farsight, and I was like, okay. 00:16:17 Speaker 2: Spelled with a P-H. 00:16:18 Speaker 1: That's perfectly fine. 00:16:19 Speaker 2: Booty Brown is one of the professors. 00:16:21 Speaker 1: If you want to study that, that's fine. 00:16:23 Speaker 2: Trey and Booty Brown are the adjunct professors. 00:16:28 Speaker 1: All of their classes are just single panel. 00:16:30 Speaker 2: Fatlip got kicked out of the university. 00:16:31 Speaker 1: Oh, that poor bastard. 00:16:32 Speaker 5: Yeah. 00:16:33 Speaker 6: Anyway, back to the clip. We learn more about the rigorous training. 00:16:37 Speaker 5: Well, even those exist. And then they start appearing in our Time Cross project, which is a predictive news show that comes out once a month. 00:16:45 Speaker 1: I hate it when they do that. 00:16:46 Speaker 6: I hate it when they appear in their predictive television show. The next step that they make is they end up in this time chronicle or whatever. I forgot the name that he literally just said. But I can just look at the website. I fucking forget. Oh, here it is. The Time Cross Project. And I watched a couple episodes of this as well. What it's supposed to be is that. 00:17:10 Speaker 3: It takes you have to you get you really get into it in the fifth episode. Like you got to get through the first four where they're just kind of establishing. Yeah, they're just establishing the characters. And then it's at episode five. It really takes off. It's like what I was describing lost to you. 00:17:24 Speaker 1: Yes, it was almost exactly like what that was. 00:17:27 Speaker 6: So what they do at the Farsight Academy or Institute or whatever the fuck they have a TV show that they put out on YouTube. 00:17:36 Speaker 2: Where they tell you what next month's news is going to be. 00:17:39 Speaker 1: This is my favorite thing in the history of the world. 00:17:41 Speaker 6: And I watched an episode of it, and it was like, one of the predictions was basically there's going to be trouble in a state. 00:17:49 Speaker 2: Building or something like that. 00:17:50 Speaker 9: Right. 00:17:50 Speaker 2: And they're like, it's supposed to be in November. And then so they end up. 00:17:55 Speaker 3: It'd be great if they just have a news show where they're like, yeah, there's going to be a thing. 00:18:03 Speaker 4: Right. 00:18:03 Speaker 1: It's going to happen next month. 00:18:05 Speaker 8: Oh, boy. 00:18:06 Speaker 2: No, it is that. 00:18:07 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:18:07 Speaker 2: That is what it is. 00:18:08 Speaker 1: Just off the dome? 00:18:09 Speaker 7: Yeah. 00:18:09 Speaker 1: Like it's an improv show? 00:18:11 Speaker 2: Basically, yeah. Fantastic. 00:18:12 Speaker 6: And so what they do is they do like, okay, here's what's coming next month. And then when they put out the next month's video, the beginning is this guy, Courtney Brown, having a discussion of the predictions they made the last month. I love this. 00:18:24 Speaker 2: And interpreting them to be like, oh, this is what they were talking about. 00:18:27 Speaker 1: I love this! 00:18:28 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's crazy. 00:18:29 Speaker 1: I want it all the time! 00:18:31 Speaker 2: There's so much you can go watch if you want to. That's fantastic. It's amazing. 00:18:34 Speaker 1: I'm going to mainline this. 00:18:36 Speaker 2: So I watched one. 00:18:37 Speaker 6: And like I said, that prediction of there's trouble in a state house building, some formal thing. It was supposed to be a prediction in November. And so when Courtney Brown the next month is giving an explanation, he's like, so I easily figured out what this was because they had such a great drawing. And the lady who was doing the prediction did a drawing is like, this is clearly Milo Yiannopoulos. 00:18:58 Speaker 2: And so she was. 00:19:01 Speaker 6: Predicting Milo Yiannopoulos' trouble on one of those University of California campuses. 00:19:06 Speaker 1: So we're playing time-traveling Pictionary. 00:19:08 Speaker 2: Exactly. 00:19:09 Speaker 1: Fantastic. 00:19:09 Speaker 2: And so he's like, that's clearly what they were talking about. 00:19:12 Speaker 1: Clearly. 00:19:12 Speaker 6: Now, that event happened on October 31st, and we were looking at November, but what we do is we cover the news. It was reported in the news November 1st, so that's why we covered it. 00:19:24 Speaker 9: Perfect! 00:19:24 Speaker 2: It's like. 00:19:25 Speaker 9: you fucking nailed it too many rules too many technicalities anyway he has a psychic news show i fucking love it and he claims they have a great batting. 00:19:35 Speaker 1: Average they have a great batting. 00:19:36 Speaker 6: Average almost a thousand by my record oh man so anyway. 00:19:40 Speaker 5: The end of the month that tells you when they're wrong in the next month so rather than watching a normal news show where you find out what already happened this is a news show where you find out what's going to happen. And we're doing the statistical analysis for that now. It's been extremely successful since we started in May of 2016. And after they do almost a year or about a year of that, then they start working on our mysteries projects, which are big projects that turn into movies. And we have a few mystery projects, such as the Great Pyramid of Giza and Atlantis, that are available for free. 00:20:16 Speaker 1: That

turned into the Disney movie Atlantis. 00:20:18 Speaker 6: I'm a guy who loves watching stuff about Atlantis, and I will say that this video that I watched of him and his remote viewers talking about Atlantis is one of the worst things I've ever watched about Atlantis. 00:20:30 Speaker 2: Very lame. 00:20:31 Speaker 1: Did they get it right, though? 00:20:32 Speaker 2: No. Oh, by the way, there is no right. 00:20:36 Speaker 5: Plus a whole bunch of other projects that we've had that are available for free. And we have some premium projects that we offer as regular movies through Vimeo and Amazon and DVDs and things like that. And The War in Heaven is one of those that just came out. And it's a three-hour. 00:20:50 Speaker 1: They bootleg movies from the future. 00:20:53 Speaker 5: Unbelievable. It's very believable when you see it and you watch it. 00:20:57 Speaker 2: No, it's not. 00:20:58 Speaker 5: Just conceptually, it's so amazing. You'd think it's just impossible, but it is very possible that we were able to pursue what this is all about. 00:21:07 Speaker 2: Sure. 00:21:07 Speaker 6: Also, it costs $ 12 to watch, so I wasn't going to pay that. 00:21:12 Speaker 1: Wait, just to watch it? You don't even get a DVD copy? 00:21:15 Speaker 2: DVD copies are coming soon. 00:21:20 Speaker 6: On the website, it says the Amazon link will be updated when they're available. 00:21:24 Speaker 2: I swear to. 00:21:24 Speaker 1: God, guys, if you need anybody. 00:21:27 Speaker 3: Nick Cage will do that movie for $ 20 in a sandwich. 00:21:31 Speaker 1: I guarantee that. He did Left Behind. Of course he'll do Farsight. 00:21:35 Speaker 6: So, like I said, I'm not paying $ 12 to watch this thing. Or even if I got to own it, I still probably wouldn't pay $ 12 for it. 00:21:42 Speaker 1: Could you get a signed copy? 00:21:44 Speaker 2: Yeah, probably. 00:21:44 Speaker 6: This guy seems like he would do just about anything. So, you might be asking yourself at this point, even though we can't watch it, because I'm not giving this guy any money. 00:21:53 Speaker 1: Because it's too good. We're still wondering, what is this war in heaven about? What's going on with that? 00:21:58 Speaker 3: Oh, I had completely forgotten about that. I was back on, why is it that we can time travel? 00:22:02 Speaker 2: No, don't worry about that. 00:22:03 Speaker 1: Oh, okay. 00:22:05 Speaker 8: Can you describe the target, so to speak, how they were given the target, and what, I'm not sure what the objective was, why you chose that particular target. 00:22:18 Speaker 5: Well, in many cultures, many religions, there's talk, there's written in ancient texts, about this big battle that happened among the gods and things like that in heaven. And you get that in the Vedic texts. You get that in the Ramayana and Hindu texts. You get that in a zillion texts, the Assyrian texts that Zachariah Sitchin has looked at. 00:22:43 Speaker 1: Bring back the Sitch! 00:22:44 Speaker 2: So Zachariah

Sitchin is the ancient aliens. 00:22:46 Speaker 1: We get an update on the Sitch! 00:22:47 Speaker 6: He's the ancient aliens guy. I've read a couple of his books. And he's roundly criticized for not being able to translate the languages he's translating. 00:22:55 Speaker 1: No, he's amazing. 00:22:56 Speaker 2: And what have you. He's a real bad scholar. 00:22:59 Speaker 1: No, amazing. 00:23:00 Speaker 6: But also, to the question of why does this warring gods theme seem to run consistently throughout so many cultures, I would give a much simpler explanation than what he's going to give here in a minute. 00:23:14 Speaker 2: And that is that, you know. 00:23:16 Speaker 6: Cultures needed an explanation for phenomenon that they couldn't understand, science, nature, that sort of thing. They didn't have ways to do that, so they created gods. And then they had to come up with a reason why bad things happen. Obviously, it's because these gods aren't working in sync. That is consistent throughout all cultures. The reason that there's trouble is because some gods have petty differences with other gods, and we are pawns that get killed in the mix sometimes. 00:23:44 Speaker 2: As they play out their struggles. That's why. 00:23:46 Speaker 6: Because you have to explain famine. You have to explain natural disasters. You have to explain those sorts of things. 00:23:52 Speaker 1: Counter theory. 00:23:53 Speaker 2: Okay. 00:23:55 Speaker 3: They're actually right. Everybody has always known that the gods have been fighting. 00:23:59 Speaker 5: Right. 00:23:59 Speaker 3: And we have to figure out a way to stop them from fighting. So what we're going to do, we're going to go back in time to before the gods were fighting. 00:24:07 Speaker 2: We need a dry erase. 00:24:07 Speaker 1: We're going to remote view that. 00:24:09 Speaker 2: Jordan, we need a dry erase. 00:24:09 Speaker 1: All right. You've got one right over there. 00:24:11 Speaker 2: It's true. 00:24:12 Speaker 1: We don't have a green screen. We're going to remote view it. Also, Hitler was there. 00:24:16 Speaker 9: Sure, sure. 00:24:17 Speaker 3: So we're going to remote view into Hitler before the gods start fighting. 00:24:20 Speaker 1: I'm assuming it's Hitler's fault. He did something crazy. You know what's crazy about this? 00:24:24 Speaker 2: Because he worshipped a goddess. 00:24:25 Speaker 1: Here's the weirdest thing. The Greek pantheon? 00:24:28 Speaker 6: Mm-hmm. 00:24:30 Speaker 1: Hated the Jews. It's such a weird thing, and I'll tell you why. Hitler. 00:24:34 Speaker 2: Did you remote view that? 00:24:35 Speaker 1: Hitlerists. 00:24:36 Speaker 2: Okay. So anyway, back to this. 00:24:37 Speaker 3: He was pulled from Athena's ear while Zeus was pulling Athena from his ear. 00:24:42 Speaker 6: Let's get back to the war in heaven stuff, where we get too far afield. 00:24:46 Speaker 1: Into being correct? 00:24:47 Speaker 2: Yes. 00:24:47 Speaker 5: I've written a whole bunch of books about it. You get this idea about the war, the war, the war, the big war in heaven. And in the Judeo-Christian tradition, you have it both in the Old Testament as well as in the New. And in the New Testament, the big mention, of course, is in Revelation. And so the book of Revelation, chapter 12, verse 7, it says, And there was a war in heaven, and Michael and his angels fought, and the dragon and his angels fought. So the real question is, first of all, why are all of these different cultures, different religions, different prophets, different everything, separated by hundreds, sometimes thousands. 00:25:25 Speaker 6: Of years, Go ask a religious studies professor. 00:25:28 Speaker 1: I don't know. They've got nothing to say. 00:25:29 Speaker 5: Why are they all talking about this? They shouldn't even know each other. Why is everybody talking about this big horn in heaven? So the real question was, let's do a remote viewing project where we. 00:25:41 Speaker 1: That was the real question. 00:25:42 Speaker 5: Query that phrase in chapter 12, verse 7 in Revelation. What is this? So that was starved cube. So the target cue was whatever the perceptions were of the original prophet who was perceiving this thing that he later called the war in heaven and wrote the book of revelations about. And we wanted to find out what that being was, what that prophet was perceiving. And so we got it. 00:26:11 Speaker 2: So they got it. 00:26:12 Speaker 1: They got it. 00:26:13 Speaker 2: They got it. 00:26:14 Speaker 6: They wanted to go back and figure out what was going on with John of Patmos as he was trying to write Revelation. 00:26:19 Speaker 1: All right. So they're going to start a remote viewing query, which I love. 00:26:24 Speaker 3: Because that makes it sound like there's a big bureaucracy of, like, there was a pitch meeting where these two low-level guys are like, hold on, pitch. 00:26:32 Speaker 5: Mm-hmm. 00:26:33 Speaker 1: We're going to see what happened with the war on heaven. 00:26:35 Speaker 2: Blue sky thinking. 00:26:36 Speaker 1: Yeah, just throwing that one out there. 00:26:38 Speaker 3: And they're like, okay, well, we're going to take that up the chain to whether or not heaven is fighting. 00:26:43 Speaker 6: Now, if we are going to solve this, what we need is we really need to talk to John of Patmos. 00:26:48 Speaker 2: Ooh, shit, he's dead. 00:26:49 Speaker 1: Whether or not it's the prophet. 00:26:51 Speaker 2: Right. 00:26:52 Speaker 3: We're just going to go back and see what that prophet was seeing. We're going to go back and find out, John, what's your deal? 00:26:58 Speaker 2: Hey, what's got your crawl? 00:27:01 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:27:01 Speaker 6: So- He's going to get into John and Pat most here in a minute. But before he does, he's going to explain some of the results of what they found here. 00:27:14 Speaker 1: Wait, do they have physical results? It's a whiteboard, isn't it? 00:27:18 Speaker 2: It's a whiteboard. It's a

physical whiteboard. It's a whiteboard. 00:27:21 Speaker 1: I knew it. 00:27:23 Speaker 6: But before he does, he makes the claim here at the beginning here that the remote viewers didn't communicate with each other and all came up with the same thing. And I don't care that he's saying that because I don't necessarily believe it. 00:27:36 Speaker 1: No, that sounds true. 00:27:37 Speaker 6: And further, I'll lay out one of my big critiques at the end of this here real quick. 00:27:42 Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. 00:27:42 Speaker 2: But let's listen to this clip first. 00:27:44 Speaker 5: There was no communication between them. And they all got the same thing, this huge space battle between basically two planets. And basically two different species, although there was a couple other species involved. But there was two primary species in these two planets. And one of the planets blew up. It was really like a Star Wars type thing. They got the falling rocks, the lava rocks coming down. Everybody got the same thing. These two opposing forces with spaceships and everything. And one was an aggressor species that looked sort of reptilian. And the other was more humanoid. They looked different than us, but very similar. Different but similar to humans. And they were battling it out. And the human humanoid species was the underdog. They were the ones getting the bad, they were getting their teeth kicked in. And the aggressor species was the reptilians. And they were nuking the place. They were nuking the place. They wanted to control the resources. They wanted to control the planet. And it looks like the other planet that had the humanoid types that looked like us, as a last resort, desperate resort, just shot a bomb towards the bigger planet that the reptilians came from, and they basically destroyed the entire planet. It was a, you know, it was a doomsday, a doomsday Hail Mary type of a situation. 00:29:14 Speaker 8: So, okay, I'm sorry to interrupt you here, but I'm wondering is, you know, it became clear, I guess, partway through the sessions, I think, at least to the viewers, that we're talking about Mars. 00:29:28 Speaker 5: No, they didn't know that. They had no idea what this project was about. They thought it was the craziest thing. 00:29:34 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was pretty crazy. 00:29:35 Speaker 1: So now we're in Mars. 00:29:37 Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, we're on Mars. 00:29:38 Speaker 1: All right. 00:29:38 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a reveal. 00:29:40 Speaker 1: That is forthcoming. Here's the thing that bothers me most about this. 00:29:44 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:29:45 Speaker 1: I think he is just fucking speciesist. 00:29:48 Speaker 3: Like, he just fucking identifies with the humanoids because they look like us. 00:29:53 Speaker 1: That's bullshit. The humanoids committed genocide on a planetary scale. They're the bad guys. Fuck this dude. What a goddamn piece of shit. 00:30:03 Speaker 2: This is an extension of Alex Jones excusing all white terrorism. 00:30:05 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is fucking insane. 00:30:07 Speaker 5: Yeah. 00:30:08 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's pretty crazy how this overlaps a little bit. 00:30:11 Speaker 2: Oh, man. 00:30:11 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's going to get worse and more overlaps. But the thing that I want to point out here is that this is all just basically ancient aliens. Like, this is the stuff right out of Zachariah Sitchin's books about the planet. 00:30:25 Speaker 3: I believe it's also Ender's Game, if I remember correctly. 00:30:27 Speaker 1: I think this is dead on Ender's Game, yeah. 00:30:31 Speaker 6: And so the reason that, like, this idea that the people didn't talk beforehand about what they're going to say in this That doesn't charm me because I would gamble everything I own. The people who go through his rigorous nine-month process of basically having their brain washed to some extent to become one of. 00:30:52 Speaker 2: These remote viewers. 00:30:53 Speaker 6: I think there's probably an incredibly high incidence of people who go through that who are really into Ancient Aliens. I think that they might self-select. in some ways, for people who already know this mythology. 00:31:08 Speaker 1: Are you saying perhaps the scientific sample isn't sound? 00:31:12 Speaker 2: In this case, yes. 00:31:13 Speaker 1: Are you saying that? 00:31:14 Speaker 2: I have a hunch. 00:31:15 Speaker 1: I think they were published in... Oh, fuck, now I can't remember the name. 00:31:19 Speaker 2: Foresight? 00:31:19 Speaker 1: No, the magazine... Journal of American Medical Association? The magazine that I rammed the reference from. 00:31:26 Speaker 2: Natural Biotechnology? 00:31:27 Speaker 1: Natural Biotechnology. 00:31:28 Speaker 2: Oh, God, don't bring that back up. 00:31:29 Speaker 1: I want to bring it back up, because you know me, Dad. 00:31:32 Speaker 2: So there's a giant. 00:31:33 Speaker 1: I love natural. 00:31:35 Speaker 2: Don't do this again. 00:31:36 Speaker 6: So there's a giant space battle, my friend. 00:31:38 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, of course. 00:31:39 Speaker 6: And this planet, which he's going to later call Marduk, is the one that got. 00:31:43 Speaker 1: Marduk. 00:31:44 Speaker 2: Marduk. 00:31:44 Speaker 9: Wow. 00:31:45 Speaker 2: Also possibly known as Tiamat. 00:31:47 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was going to say, do you want to make any more references to old-timey religions, you asshole? 00:31:53 Speaker 6: No, I mean, this is 100% out of situ. This is all just... I mean, I've read... Like I said, two or three of his books, and this is just exactly what Sitchin believes. 00:32:02 Speaker 1: This is repurposed nonsense from mythology. 00:32:04 Speaker 4: Right. 00:32:05 Speaker 2: But now we're going to get to John of Patmos. 00:32:08 Speaker 1: Okay. 00:32:08 Speaker 6: We're going to get to some explanations of our religions that we have on Earth. 00:32:13 Speaker 2: Where do they come from? Revelation was pretty weird. What happened? 00:32:17 Speaker 1: It

was pretty weird. 00:32:17 Speaker 2: What happened? 00:32:19 Speaker 1: Let's find out. 00:32:19 Speaker 2: Fucking Courtney knows. 00:32:21 Speaker 1: An allegory for the fall of the Roman Empire? No. Oh, okay. 00:32:24 Speaker 2: You're a fool. 00:32:25 Speaker 1: I am a fool. 00:32:28 Speaker 5: The original prophet, his perceptions when he was remote, when he was perceiving this so-called war of heaven, what was happening to him? What was he looking at? What was he perceiving when he was getting that? The second target was the actual prophet himself at the time that not his perceptions, but at the time that he was receiving this vision. what was going on with him at that time. That was a second target. So we could see like, how was he getting this? Was he just like closing his eyes and imagining this thing? And it turned out to be an alien abduction type thing. So extraterrestrials, this is John of Patmos we're talking about, the author of the Book of Revelation. Patmos is an island in the Aegean. 00:33:10 Speaker 8: And he. 00:33:12 Speaker 5: Basically had extraterrestrials around him. And there was one in particular, a big guy, who was force-feeding this stuff into his head. And he was doing the best he could. He was not in control of himself. He was doing the best he could to try to sort it out. And when he got it, when the whole experience was over, he wrote a book, Book of Revelation, and that's how we got it. And apparently that's how it got into all these other cultures. Apparently these extraterrestrials wanted humans to know about this thing that happened millions and millions and millions and millions of years ago so that we would be able to process it. 00:33:46 Speaker 2: Okay. 00:33:47 Speaker 1: Why? 00:33:48 Speaker 2: So we could process it. 00:33:50 Speaker 1: But we wouldn't need to process it if we didn't know about it. 00:33:53 Speaker 6: Also, these aliens fucked up. Because we're at the brink of nuclear war as it is. Even with whatever warning they may have coded into Revelation or some nonsense. 00:34:04 Speaker 1: Well, they fucking sent it to Hawaii and they didn't pay attention. All right. All right. That's my topical reference for the month. 00:34:10 Speaker 2: All right. 00:34:11 Speaker 1: I get one. 00:34:12 Speaker 2: So, I don't know, man. 00:34:14 Speaker 6: I enjoy this stuff to an extent. 00:34:17 Speaker 5: Like. 00:34:18 Speaker 6: It's funny because we're not idiots. 00:34:21 Speaker 2: I love it. 00:34:22 Speaker 6: There is an aspect of this that is like, oh man, this is fun storytelling if you just look at it as that. But how am I going to refute that John of Patmos was kidnapped by aliens? 00:34:37 Speaker 1: How could you? How is he going to verify it? Do you know why you can't refute it? Because it's true. 00:34:41 Speaker 2: Yeah, that might be. 00:34:42 Speaker 3: Because all of the evidence points to alien abduction. I love the way that he hits that turn, too, because it starts with your, you know, like, oh, was he closing his eyes and just imagining? 00:34:57 Speaker 1: Was he getting a vision? Nope, turns out it was alien abduction. 00:35:01 Speaker 6: So what you're saying is he sort of rhetorically knocks down the obvious answers, and they're like, nah, nah, nah. 00:35:07 Speaker 7: Nah, nah. 00:35:07 Speaker 8: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:35:08 Speaker 3: Nah and he goes he goes oh it's it's a it's a it's not even a zag it's a zog he's zogs he goes so far because you're like okay well jimmy james did yeah yeah he's gonna he's gonna slide of hand me no all the way right all the fucking way speaking of slide of hand stuff um some of this uh i don't even there's a whole long uh story about this thing called project alpha and That Randy, the amazing Randy, the guy who set out to debunk people who were making pseudoscientifical claims. 00:35:42 Speaker 1: From way back when? 00:35:43 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. 00:35:44 Speaker 6: There was a government program that was trying to get into using psychics and all that shit. And the amazing Randy planted two people within the ranks of it who were magicians that he knew. 00:35:58 Speaker 1: Right. 00:35:58 Speaker 6: And they went through and completely tricked all of these researchers. 00:36:02 Speaker 3: Of course. 00:36:02 Speaker 6: And then they had a big press conference about, like, we are just using tricks. We cheat and it's all nonsense, all of this stuff. And remote viewing was involved in that as well. It's another reason that people should be very skeptical about these ideas without any. 00:36:19 Speaker 1: No, there's always been those magicians. 00:36:22 Speaker 4: Yeah. 00:36:22 Speaker 3: Who are amazing magicians. And then they're like, okay, guys, you're dumb. Yeah. 00:36:28 Speaker 1: For you. 00:36:30 Speaker 5: Look. 00:36:30 Speaker 1: You've made me a lot of money, but we've got to stop this. 00:36:33 Speaker 6: Also, one of the cool things is the Randy Foundation. I believe that's the name of it. They give out awards. 00:36:39 Speaker 1: That's not a great name for a foundation. 00:36:41 Speaker 2: Because it sounds like they're ribbled. 00:36:42 Speaker 1: It sounds like they're ready to fuck. 00:36:43 Speaker 2: They're really horny. 00:36:44 Speaker 1: They're ready to fuck. 00:36:45 Speaker 6: So they have a foundation where they give out awards for people who are in skeptic communities and make a lot of headway. And they have a special award called the Flying Pegasus Award. 00:36:55 Speaker 2: And that's ironic. 00:36:56 Speaker 1: For people who have flown a Pegasus. 00:36:58 Speaker 2: No, it's not. It's Pegasus. It's a flying pig. I get it. 00:37:03 Speaker 6: And the premise of it is it's an ironic award that's given out for people who are the exact opposite. 00:37:10 Speaker 2: Of what they embody. 00:37:10 Speaker 1: Right, right, right. It's the Razzies. 00:37:13 Speaker 2: And Alex Jones won it in 2003. 00:37:15 Speaker 1: Of course he did. 00:37:16 Speaker 6:

So there's a fun wraparound there with Alex Jones. Just got to bring him up whenever we can. But Alex was not present during the space battle, and we need to learn more about it. 00:37:25 Speaker 2: Who was? Well, we're going to find out a little bit more about this in the next clip. 00:37:29 Speaker 5: So this war in heaven was a war between two species. One was dominantly living on Mars, and the other was living, the reptilian group was living on this other planet that often people call Maldeck. And that was the planet that is now the asteroid belt that was totally destroyed in the war. And that's the war that the extraterrestrials have apparently wanted us to know about. And so they seeded the information into our collective consciousness by putting it into our religions. And that was pretty easy to do. You just abduct these prophets and feed them the information. And then they write about it in their texts. And lo and behold, we're... He becomes slowly aware of it. 00:38:16 Speaker 2: Bada-bing, bada-boom. 00:38:18 Speaker 1: I still don't understand this plan. 00:38:20 Speaker 2: What do you mean? The aliens? 00:38:21 Speaker 5: Yeah. 00:38:21 Speaker 2: Simple. 00:38:22 Speaker 1: But what's the plan? 00:38:23 Speaker 2: You're so dumb. It's so simple. 00:38:25 Speaker 1: But what's the goal? 00:38:26 Speaker 2: So you're an alien, right? 00:38:27 Speaker 4: Yes. 00:38:28 Speaker 6: You find a prophet that you know is going to write a book that magically is going to make it through the Council of Nicaea. 00:38:35 Speaker 2: Right. 00:38:35 Speaker 6: It's going to make it into the Bible, into the canonical Bible, as opposed to all the other books that... That were written contemporaneously and were not put into the Bible. 00:38:43 Speaker 3: Well, that's because they were too obvious with the one where Jesus fought raptors. 00:38:48 Speaker 2: Right. 00:38:48 Speaker 3: They called them dragons back then. 00:38:50 Speaker 6: Or the book of Enoch where they're like, you know, probable actual aliens. 00:38:55 Speaker 1: Right, right, right. 00:38:56 Speaker 2: But, you know, so you find. 00:38:57 Speaker 6: This guy and you know ahead of time because you're a fucking alien that it's going to get into. 00:39:02 Speaker 2: The main book. And so what you do. 00:39:04 Speaker 1: Because you're a fucking alien. 00:39:06 Speaker 6: Yeah, so you walk up to him and you're like, put your thoughts into his head like it's a Dana Gould special. 00:39:11 Speaker 1: No, you've got to abduct him. 00:39:13 Speaker 7: Nah. 00:39:14 Speaker 1: No, that's what he's saying. He's saying they got abducted. Where did they go? 00:39:17 Speaker 2: He's not, though. 00:39:19 Speaker 6: We're going to get to it. It's not really an abduction. It's an abduction-like scenario. 00:39:25 Speaker 1: It's abduction adjacent. 00:39:26 Speaker 6: He's standing on Patmos and an alien comes over and is like, wah. he's just putting okay putting the thoughts into his head and forcing him he's going to explain it a little bit more later but before he does okay we got to get to this next clip where uh courtney brown makes a weird great name by the way it's fine great name uh he makes a weird point about the remote viewers uh-huh One. 00:39:47 Speaker 5: More thing, Kerry, I really want to mention. For me, it's really important. These are millennials. These are young people. These are not old people that came out of the military that were, you know, getting ready to retire or die or whatever. 00:40:02 Speaker 1: The least believable part of this. 00:40:04 Speaker 5: So having young people do these things and having a level of training that is at this level, this huge level, is just, it's revolutionary. And it's really, really important for the future of humanity. 00:40:21 Speaker 2: What did you just say? 00:40:22 Speaker 1: I love him. 00:40:23 Speaker 2: You're going to go on such a roller coaster. 00:40:24 Speaker 1: I love him. Come on. Listen to him talk about that. 00:40:27 Speaker 7: Look. 00:40:29 Speaker 1: I'm just happy that somebody's recognizing. 00:40:32 Speaker 3: Like, this is way better than a New York Times article where it's like, millennials are killing. 00:40:36 Speaker 1: The wine industry. This dude's writing an. 00:40:38 Speaker 3: Article that's like, millennials are resurrecting the crazy industry. 00:40:43 Speaker 6: There's two reasons why he's more interested in millennials and why he's saying the things that he's saying. 00:40:47 Speaker 1: That's why they can't afford wine. 00:40:48 Speaker 3: They're too busy training to see the past. 00:40:51 Speaker 6: One of the reasons that he's making this point of millennials, and this is the reason he wouldn't say publicly... And that is that they're easier to trick because they don't have a lot of life experience. 00:41:01 Speaker 1: Oh, do you mean young people are easier to trick? 00:41:03 Speaker 6: Younger people are much more impressionable speaking, largely speaking. It's not a one-to-one ratio, but specifically if you're trying to start a cult, you probably are going to start with young people. 00:41:15 Speaker 3: Manson didn't start with elderly women. 00:41:17 Speaker 1: I'll just say that. 00:41:18 Speaker 6: But the other thing he's bringing up is he's casting aspersions on people who are in the military and that sort of thing. This is going to play out. Because you know who Carrie Cassidy's sources generally are. 00:41:29 Speaker 1: Military. 00:41:30 Speaker 5: Oh, yeah. 00:41:30 Speaker 1: Ex-military. Fake ex-military. 00:41:33 Speaker 5: Right. 00:41:33 Speaker 1: But still respectful of the real military. 00:41:36 Speaker 6: Right. 00:41:36 Speaker 2: So him bringing this up is kind of. 00:41:39 Speaker 1: Carrie's going to push back? 00:41:40 Speaker 2: It's kind of something that I don't think Carrie is thrilled with. 00:41:43 Speaker 3: So Carrie is going to push back. We're going to see Carrie push back. 00:41:46 Speaker 1:

Well, let's listen to this next one. I want to see this. This is going to be bananas. 00:41:50 Speaker 8: The race on Mars, you know, it is interesting because Project Camelot, one of our most Famous interviews is with Bariska, who is a young boy from Russia who had total past life recall of his life as a soldier on Mars. 00:42:04 Speaker 2: Sounds like a creative boy. 00:42:06 Speaker 8: And then was, in essence, seated back here on Earth after that the planet was, I guess, decimated. So the surface of Mars. 00:42:15 Speaker 6: So tough. 00:42:17 Speaker 8: This was in a war situation, as he describes. And this was as, you know, he started talking about this when he was very, very young to his mother. And then she, I guess some journalists heard about it in the community. And then, of course, at least this is how the story goes. And the scientists then started to notice him. And, of course, now. We can't get a hold of Ariska because he's probably working for the Russian government. But nonetheless, this parallels the information he was giving. Another thing that he came across was they actually were trying to turn Jupiter into a second sun, is something he said. 00:42:58 Speaker 1: That makes sense. 00:42:59 Speaker 2: Yeah, sure. Whatever. 00:43:01 Speaker 1: I like the way she said.... 00:43:07 Speaker 2: I don't know about planets becoming stars. 00:43:09 Speaker 3: Gas giants turn into stars all the time. 00:43:11 Speaker 2: Is that true? 00:43:12 Speaker 1: No. Of course not. 00:43:14 Speaker 2: I don't know. 00:43:14 Speaker 1: What? 00:43:15 Speaker 5: No. 00:43:15 Speaker 6: I don't know enough about the world. 00:43:18 Speaker 1: As a whole to say. Do you mean the galaxy as a whole? 00:43:21 Speaker 2: Right. I don't know enough. 00:43:22 Speaker 6: I'm not an astrophysicist, but I do know that the sun isn't a planet. 00:43:27 Speaker 2: I know that. 00:43:28 Speaker 1: The sun is not a planet. 00:43:29 Speaker 2: I know that. 00:43:29 Speaker 6: It seems like it would be a weird transition for Jupiter, a planet, to make into a star. 00:43:36 Speaker 2: I don't know, man. 00:43:37 Speaker 6: I was in a class called astrology. It was like, I don't think this is the name of it because I think it's a comedian's bit. Like astrology for poets. 00:43:46 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's Patton's bit. Physics for poets. 00:43:48 Speaker 6: It's exactly that, though. It was like astrology for idiots. 00:43:52 Speaker 3: Is the red planet Mars like the crimson eye of cerebrals? 00:43:56 Speaker 6: I had to take it in college, and I still don't know what the professor's name was, but it sounded like Professor Mushroom. 00:44:04 Speaker 2: That's all I remember about it. It was a wild time. 00:44:07 Speaker 6: I don't know a lot, but I know that Jupiter is not going to become a sun. 00:44:11 Speaker 1: No, it's not going to become a sun. I'm confident about that. 00:44:14 Speaker 3: No matter what you do, Jupiter could not become a sun. That in the universe we inhabit, that's not a possible thing. 00:44:21 Speaker 2: Oh, another thing. 00:44:22 Speaker 6: When I was like nine, I used to tell this friend of mine who I had from the neighborhood, I used to tell him that I was an alien. 00:44:29 Speaker 1: That you had perfect recall from your past life on Mars as a soldier. Yes. 00:44:32 Speaker 2: Well, not as a soldier, but I was an alien that I came from another place. Were you a raptor? I wasn't. It was a humanoid planet that I came from. 00:44:39 Speaker 1: Well, then I'm out. 00:44:40 Speaker 6: And as a young boy, I accidentally stumbled onto the basic tenets of communism in trying to tell stories to my friend of this planet that I came from where everything was equal. And that sort of thing, where everyone was taken care of. 00:44:55 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was making it up. 00:44:57 Speaker 1: You wrote your friend Animal Farm. 00:44:59 Speaker 2: Mostly. 00:45:00 Speaker 7: Yeah. 00:45:00 Speaker 6: And I was making it up. And a couple years later, I grew out of it. And I was like, I should probably stop doing this shit. 00:45:06 Speaker 1: But you never told your friend, right? He still believes that you're an alien. 00:45:09 Speaker 6: No, probably not. But he did move away. So he never got a chance to be like, I was making that up. 00:45:13 Speaker 1: He always knew that alien. 00:45:14 Speaker 2: So I'm doing it now. 00:45:15 Speaker 1: He knows that alien, Fred. 00:45:16 Speaker 2: Sorry. 00:45:17 Speaker 1: I love the way that she said. 00:45:19 Speaker 6: No, no, no. 00:45:20 Speaker 1: Here's the thing. Fuck, fuck, fuck. 00:45:21 Speaker 5: No. 00:45:21 Speaker 1: Okay. 00:45:22 Speaker 6: What I'm saying about all that is that's probably what happened with Boriska. 00:45:26 Speaker 4: Yeah. 00:45:26 Speaker 2: As opposed to he's now working for the Russian government. 00:45:28 Speaker 1: No, it's definitely what happened. 00:45:29 Speaker 6: I'm giving a more simple real world Occam's razor explanation for that. 00:45:33 Speaker 5: Unless. 00:45:34 Speaker 2: Now, please go ahead. 00:45:35 Speaker 1: He is working for the Russian government. 00:45:36 Speaker 2: That is totally possible. 00:45:37 Speaker 3: And that's how they got into the election of 2016. 00:45:40 Speaker 1: He was the only one who saw that people would not shut up about Hillary's emails. There you go. That's why they talk to.... 00:45:48 Speaker 2: Robert David Steele? 00:45:49 Speaker 1: No. Stephanopoulos? Not Stephanopoulos. Stefan Molyneux? 00:45:53 Speaker 3: No. 00:45:54 Speaker 2: George Papadopoulos? 00:45:55 Speaker 1: That's the one. 00:45:56 Speaker 2: Okay. 00:45:57 Speaker 1: Now I feel racist towards Greeks? I don't know. 00:46:00 Speaker 2: Make your point. 00:46:00 Speaker 1: Anyways. 00:46:01 Speaker 3: No, I just love the way that she said that's how the story goes. Like when describing Boriska's origin story of like, well, he started out as this small boy and he told these stories to his

mother and then a journalist. Or that's how the story goes. Like, that's the part that she's skeptical of. 00:46:19 Speaker 2: Right, right. 00:46:20 Speaker 1: Like, oh, well, this part is apocryphal. 00:46:22 Speaker 2: The mom's actions. Who knows? 00:46:23 Speaker 1: Yeah. Who knows whether or not this is how the story goes? The parts that are actually probably confirmable. What we do know. 00:46:30 Speaker 3: There was a giant space battle on Mars, and this kid fucking knew it. 00:46:33 Speaker 2: Yeah, he was a part of it. 00:46:34 Speaker 6: Probably fighting alongside Randy Kramer. 00:46:36 Speaker 1: Of course. 00:46:37 Speaker 2: Space warrior Randy Kramer. 00:46:39 Speaker 3: The only question that I have to ask is, is he a reptoid or is he a humanoid? 00:46:43 Speaker 6: We don't get into raptors in this episode, unfortunately. 00:46:45 Speaker 1: Bariska sounds very reptoid to me. 00:46:47 Speaker 2: Yeah? 00:46:48 Speaker 5: Yeah. 00:46:48 Speaker 1: It sounds almost, oh, never mind. 00:46:50 Speaker 2: I keep forgetting which side is the good one. 00:46:53 Speaker 1: That's because there are no good sides, Dan. 00:46:55 Speaker 6: So in that clip, you start to see Carrie be like, well, here's what I know. 00:47:00 Speaker 2: These are the things that I have figured out. 00:47:02 Speaker 6: And she's starting to grow a little bit possibly resentful. And it boils over a little bit in this next clip where we got our it's easy to blow up a planet drop from. 00:47:13 Speaker 5: There are lots of places on the planet where you have literally hundreds of high-powered nuclear weapons stored in one spot. And if you took an enemy's nuclear weapon Nuclear. With a bunker-busting capability. 00:47:30 Speaker 6: Just real quick, actually, this clip is a little bit longer, but I want it to play out as a whole just to hear them bickering, so this might be a good mic-down opportunity, just because it's catty as hell. 00:47:39 Speaker 1: I just love the... It happened the same way with L. 00:47:43 Speaker 3: Ron Hubbard, where it's like, They have these space weapons and everything's cool, but we're going to put that– it's a B-52 bomber. 00:47:49 Speaker 2: Right. 00:47:49 Speaker 1: Right, yeah, in the past, but whatever. 00:47:51 Speaker 3: These are bunker-busting nuclear weapons because they, of course, build them the same way that we do. 00:47:56 Speaker 1: That just makes perfect sense. 00:47:58 Speaker 2: Right. 00:47:58 Speaker 3: If you're a group of reptoid species, of course you're going to– Of course. 00:48:02 Speaker 1: Why wouldn't you build a bunker-buster? You know bunkers? 00:48:05 Speaker 6: Right. So his perception is that you have a bunker buster missile type thing that goes and blows up a stockade. 00:48:11 Speaker 2: Of nuclear weapons. 00:48:12 Speaker 6: Of course. 00:48:12 Speaker 2: Right. 00:48:13 Speaker 1: And so why wouldn't you? That's why we keep all of our nuclear weapons in a big pile. 00:48:17 Speaker 4: Right. 00:48:18 Speaker 2: Everyone does. 00:48:18 Speaker 5: Yeah. 00:48:19 Speaker 1: Everybody does this. 00:48:19 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:48:20 Speaker 5: And shot it into one of those places and detonated it. You very likely ignite all of them. They all go off at once. And if they all go off at once, you'd blow up the planet. It's really easy to blow up a planet. For example, Earth. This is how you blow up Earth. Earth is an 8,000-mile ball of liquid molten lava. It's just liquid. And it's got an 8-mile thin crust on top of it like a grapeseed. And to blow up the planet, all you need to do is puncture the balloon. 00:48:56 Speaker 2: To this, I would like to remind him of volcanoes. 00:48:59 Speaker 5: What? 00:49:01 Speaker 3: If you want to blow up Earth, you poke a hole in it. 00:49:06 Speaker 1: That's his idea. That's his big plan. Earth is a lot like a balloon. 00:49:11 Speaker 8: Right. 00:49:12 Speaker 2: A grapeseed. 00:49:12 Speaker 1: And you just poke it. 00:49:13 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:49:14 Speaker 1: Boom! 00:49:15 Speaker 8: Yeah. 00:49:15 Speaker 2: So hold on. This goes on. 00:49:17 Speaker 5: Alright. You just need to pop a big hole in the balloon and the whole thing will pop. Because the lava is under such tremendous pressure. So if you took one of those repositories of hundreds of nuclear weapons and shot one weapon into it and detonated it. Not on the surface, but making one of those bunker busting goes deep in and boom. Okay, well, I appreciate your... You would destroy the entire planet. 00:49:42 Speaker 8: You know, conjecture, but I have to say that is your personal conjecture. That's not what we scientifically know for a fact. Well, no, it's pretty easy to. 00:49:55 Speaker 5: Put two and two together. 00:49:56 Speaker 8: Well, I think that that would be, you know, I think there's a lot of ways that they may be using to destroy planets. In fact, I have some information from one of my secret witnesses about that. And it does involve other things, such as shooting a neutron star through a wormhole. So, you know, I. 00:50:15 Speaker 5: Think this is a very easy way to blow up a planet. I'm not saying this is the way that that planet was destroyed. Right. I'm just saying it is not hard to blow up a planet. And this is one way it could be done using current technology that we have. 00:50:32 Speaker 8: OK, but that's also what, you know, as a surface human, that's not necessarily what black projects in the secret space program are aware of and utilizing even to this day. 00:50:44 Speaker 5: So, Carrie, the point that I'm trying to say is that most people would say blowing a planet, you can't do that. Planets, you can't blow up a planet. It's just reaching for the idea to explain to people it's not that hard to blow up a planet. 00:51:01 Speaker 3: Has this ever been you trying to blow up a planet? 00:51:06 Speaker 1: I don't know how to do this. My hands keep slipping off of the nuclear weapon. You, an idiot. 00:51:12 Speaker 6: It's

hard to blow up a planet. Me, a genius. 00:51:15 Speaker 1: No, it's not. Fuck you. It's so easy. 00:51:19 Speaker 2: Right. 00:51:20 Speaker 1: It's not easy to blow up a planet. 00:51:22 Speaker 6: I don't even know about this shooting a neutron star through a wormhole theory. 00:51:28 Speaker 1: That doesn't make any sense. 00:51:29 Speaker 2: It's less important what makes sense. 00:51:31 Speaker 3: The neutron star would just collapse into a wormhole of its own. 00:51:35 Speaker 6: It's less important what makes sense and what doesn't. What is more important is this friction that we're seeing. I've never seen Cary Cassidy be like, look, I am more legit than you. You're saying things that don't go in line with the Project Camelot line, and I gotta be polite but also shut you down on some stuff. 00:51:56 Speaker 1: It's fantastic! 00:51:58 Speaker 3: Because everything we've ever heard from Carrie is like, oh yeah, let's throw that in my narrative. 00:52:04 Speaker 6: Why not? 00:52:04 Speaker 1: Sure, sure, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, Ethereal's awesome. More seasoning for the broth. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, no. Mars fights, fuck yeah. Spider leadership, wormholes everywhere. On board. 00:52:14 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:52:14 Speaker 1: Wait a second. What did you just say about fucking Mars? 00:52:17 Speaker 6: You were saying that they used a bunker-busting bomb to blow up a nuclear... What a moron! Everyone knows it's a fucking neutron. 00:52:25 Speaker 1: Star and orb hole. 00:52:26 Speaker 3: Where else would the giant beetles have come from when we were fighting in Vietnam, idiots? 00:52:31 Speaker 6: Now, Courtney, what you don't understand is I've... I've talked to other crazy people before you and they've assured me that their crazy shit is real. And therefore I can't go along with your crazy shit. They're having a dominant struggle about crazy shit. 00:52:48 Speaker 3: Well, I mean, of course the old saying is there's more than one way to blow up a planet. 00:52:52 Speaker 2: Absolutely. 00:52:52 Speaker 1: Of course, Cary. 00:52:53 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's an aphorism. 00:52:54 Speaker 3: Look, I'm just saying this is how you could do it if you were to do it. 00:52:58 Speaker 2: Right. 00:52:59 Speaker 1: I'm essentially the OJ of blowing up planets. 00:53:02 Speaker 6: So that sort of mentality of sort of got to push back a little bit leads us to Cary Cassidy accidentally asking the most salient question of all time that Courtney does not enjoy having asked. 00:53:15 Speaker 2: Okay. 00:53:16 Speaker 5: Was there any detail? 00:53:17 Speaker 8: You know, because there's this thing called actionable intelligence. And sometimes I wonder if these remote viewings avoid, even on purpose, giving us what might be termed actionable intelligence, things that could be checked out really that are very, very hard and fast. 00:53:38 Speaker 1: Now, you say there are some of these. 00:53:40 Speaker 8: Things that were involved here that to some degree have shown

up in our culture's And so in a certain sense, that's information that's validated simply because it's been around for so long that something of that nature might have happened. But do you understand what my question is here? 00:53:59 Speaker 5: Not really. 00:54:01 Speaker 2: Okay. 00:54:02 Speaker 8: So the question is, do you feel that these remote viewing sessions are giving you actionable intelligence? 00:54:08 Speaker 2: Yes. 00:54:09 Speaker 5: I'm not sure what you mean by actionable intelligence. 00:54:13 Speaker 8: Well, it's a military term. I thought maybe you would be familiar with it. 00:54:16 Speaker 2: Oh, shit. 00:54:17 Speaker 5: I've heard it, but I'm not sure of how you're using it. 00:54:19 Speaker 6: Okay. 00:54:19 Speaker 5: So maybe you could explain it. 00:54:20 Speaker 8: Well, it actually means that you can follow it up and find hard, fast evidence in essence. 00:54:26 Speaker 5: Well, our whole project is based on that, on that definition of what you just said, actionable intelligence. 00:54:34 Speaker 2: No, no, it's not. No, it is not. Oh, man. 00:54:38 Speaker 4: Oh, man. 00:54:39 Speaker 3: Carrie asks the one question that you are not allowed to ask on Project Camelot, which is. 00:54:45 Speaker 2: Are you fucking around? 00:54:46 Speaker 1: Can you prove it? 00:54:47 Speaker 2: Right. 00:54:49 Speaker 6: The question at its core is, I noticed from looking at a lot of remote viewing stuff that it seems like it's almost intentionally vague. 00:54:57 Speaker 7: Yeah. 00:54:57 Speaker 2: And unverifiable. Is there something to that? 00:55:01 Speaker 1: Quick question from me, Carrie Cassidy. 00:55:04 Speaker 2: Okay. 00:55:06 Speaker 1: Is any of this real? 00:55:08 Speaker 2: Are you fucking with me? Now, let me tell you. 00:55:09 Speaker 1: Are you fucking with me? 00:55:10 Speaker 2: Our entire operation is based solely on real things. 00:55:13 Speaker 1: That's what somebody would say if they were fucking with me. 00:55:15 Speaker 6: They were scamming people. So, in this next clip. 00:55:18 Speaker 1: I love poor Carrie. Carrie is being forced. Look, here's the real victim. 00:55:23 Speaker 3: Carrie is being forced into the one place that she has spent her entire life avoiding. 00:55:29 Speaker 1: Which is the skeptic's place. 00:55:31 Speaker 2: Exactly. 00:55:31 Speaker 1: She hates this. 00:55:33 Speaker 2: Right. 00:55:33 Speaker 3: She doesn't want to have to say... She wants to believe you, Dan. She wants to believe in you. She wants to know that your heart, despite being filled with Martian history, is still pure and good. 00:55:46 Speaker 6: Whatever paranoid narrative you have about the world being some sort of bizarre... I don't even know how to describe it. That's what she wants to perpetuate. And he's... She's going out of her way because this guy is like, I think she hates him. 00:56:02 Speaker 1: Yeah, why did she bring this guy on? 00:56:04 Speaker 2: I don't know. It's very weird. But anyway, in

this next clip, she asks another question. 00:56:09 Speaker 1: Because it's not like he's famous. 00:56:11 Speaker 6: She asks another question that's actually really salient, too. And that is that, as he's been presenting it, the humans, the humanoid, separate but equal. 00:56:22 Speaker 1: Pitiable surface humans. 00:56:23 Speaker 2: The similar but different humans on Mars. 00:56:25 Speaker 4: Yes. 00:56:26 Speaker 2: Back in the day. Right. They blew up Malduke or whatever. Malbeck. 00:56:30 Speaker 1: Maldeck. 00:56:31 Speaker 2: Maldeck. Yeah. 00:56:33 Speaker 1: Which means bad dick. 00:56:34 Speaker 2: And so that is the. 00:56:35 Speaker 1: It's about skateboards. 00:56:36 Speaker 2: That was the end of this war, right? 00:56:39 Speaker 1: Well, there was a mass genocide. 00:56:41 Speaker 2: Right. 00:56:41 Speaker 1: They killed all the reptoids. 00:56:42 Speaker 2: So. 00:56:43 Speaker 1: Or reptiles or raptors. 00:56:46 Speaker 6: So she has a question about that, though. And it's an interesting question. How would that be the end of the war, necessarily? And I don't think that Courtney has a good answer. 00:56:58 Speaker 8: Was the nuclear decimation on the surface of Mars a result in a payback by the reptilians? 00:57:08 Speaker 5: No, that apparently was happening before the planet was destroyed. The destruction of the planet when it blew up, that apparently was the end of the war. But that was also the end of good days. 00:57:22 Speaker 8: I mean, I know this may not be answerable. I'm just going down these roads. Why, if they, you know, if you have a fleet of army or whatever it is, not army, but, you know, above your head and it is attacking you and their home planet is blown up, it doesn't automatically, therefore, follow that the fleet suddenly abandons their war and they can't go back to their. 00:57:49 Speaker 5: I'm certain you're correct. I'm certain you're correct in that everybody just didn't stop. 00:57:54 Speaker 8: Right. 00:57:56 Speaker 5: You know, for all intents and purposes, you can imagine that after that, people were just trying to find some place to go. I mean, Mars really wasn't a very habitable, easily habitable place after that either. 00:58:10 Speaker 3: Well, that's when Reptilian Isis started. Do you remember when reptilian ISIS started? 00:58:15 Speaker 6: Dude, we don't even talk about the analysis of that clip because you just said ISIS. 00:58:19 Speaker 2: I got some news about ISIS. 00:58:21 Speaker 8: And we also know that there are many different races of reptilians, and certainly destroying one planet didn't do away with them. We know that for a fact because we have monuments with reptilians carved onto them all over the planet. In fact, ISIS was tasked, according to one of my witnesses, with destroying a lot of the evidence in the Middle East of just that, the reptilian domination of humans here. 00:58:47 Speaker 6: So now we bring ISIS into the fold. 00:58:51 Speaker 2: Oh, ISIS. 00:58:52 Speaker 3: ISIS. 00:58:53 Speaker 1: Oh, what will you not destroy? 00:58:55 Speaker 6: ISIS, in her position, or her conception, was created to destroy proof of reptilian domination of Earth. 00:59:03 Speaker 3: Okay, so if I understand correctly, ISIS, not G-dubs' fault. 00:59:08 Speaker 2: Nope. 00:59:09 Speaker 3: Rep- fault or perhaps humanoids fault for committing a mass genocide of the reptilians. 00:59:15 Speaker 6: Right and the way that this uh while it sounds more fun uh as an explanation and fanciful At its core, it's really still just trying to ignore the real reasons for terrorism that we. 00:59:27 Speaker 2: Discussed at the end of the last episode. 00:59:28 Speaker 1: Right, well, that's bad. 00:59:30 Speaker 6: Yeah, the destruction that we have laid on people and the desperateness of oppressed populations. 00:59:37 Speaker 3: I love that Carrie's wargaming it, too. Carrie's doing our job. This is a little disappointing now. I know that Carrie can war games. Now the whole thing is in question. 00:59:48 Speaker 2: So now we realize that she's been holding back all the time. 00:59:51 Speaker 1: Yeah, no kidding. 00:59:51 Speaker 6: It only brings this out whenever she's like, fuck, I'm done with this. 00:59:54 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:59:54 Speaker 6: But it is a good question. They're like, okay, so they blew up the planet. There's a fucking whole bunch of ships out there still with these reptilians. 01:00:00 Speaker 5: Right. 01:00:01 Speaker 3: They're going to fucking attack. I saw the reboot of Star Wars. That's what that guy was doing. 01:00:04 Speaker 1: And his answer is like. That's why he blew up Spock's home planet. 01:00:09 Speaker 6: His answer is like, yeah, everyone just wants somewhere to go. And then also, that answers your question as to, like, what about Mars? Why can't you live on it? It's because of the fallout of this. 01:00:17 Speaker 1: Because of the fallout of that? 01:00:18 Speaker 6: Yeah, so Mars wasn't inhabitable after that. And again, this all goes back to ancient alien shit. 01:00:23 Speaker 3: His answer of, like, well, you know, Mars wasn't really a great place to live anyway, so if everybody's dead, you might as well just fuck off into a different planet. 01:00:31 Speaker 6: So at this point, Carrie decides to get up on a soapbox and pontificate about how we're going to have to fight these reptilians again. 01:00:38 Speaker 1: Oh, of course we are. 01:00:39 Speaker 8: And so the question becomes... And this is just for the purposes of my audience and for people to probe into possibilities as to what this could mean. So it's not just an idle thing where, oh, somewhere in the far distant past, some earthlings were attacked on Mars. And that was how it ended up looking like it does. And basically, they went to Earth after that. Well, the reptilians did follow. We know they followed. And we know they're here now, and we also know that they have been here in the past because we have the carvings, et

cetera, to show in the various societies, which includes South America, all over Sumer, in Egypt, Iraq, Iran, Syria, et cetera, et cetera. So what I'm saying is may we look forward to another battle with reptilians sometime in our future. These are just questions. Obviously, you can't answer them. 01:01:35 Speaker 5: Let me say this. You raise a lot of interesting questions of which I don't have answers. 01:01:44 Speaker 2: Okay. Fair enough. 01:01:45 Speaker 1: That was a Carrie Callahan diss right there. Obviously, you can't answer it. 01:01:49 Speaker 5: Right. 01:01:50 Speaker 1: No, she's Carrie Callahan to me. 01:01:51 Speaker 6: Right. 01:01:51 Speaker 1: We've already... She's cucking him out on the air. 01:01:53 Speaker 6: We've already. 01:01:54 Speaker 1: Yeah. 01:01:54 Speaker 3: Obviously, you can't answer these questions. All of my other guests can answer them, but you. 01:01:59 Speaker 1: All of my real sources... You poor fool with your remote viewing. 01:02:03 Speaker 2: You surface human. 01:02:04 Speaker 1: How dare you, you surface human. 01:02:06 Speaker 2: Sure, sure. 01:02:06 Speaker 6: You have psychic abilities, and I'm going to allow that to be translated to my fucking audience. 01:02:11 Speaker 2: But what you don't have. 01:02:12 Speaker 1: Right, right, right. 01:02:12 Speaker 2: What you don't have is you don't know about the secret space program. That's right. 01:02:17 Speaker 1: She's picking and choosing what she doesn't believe. She's like, well, obviously remote viewing is real. 01:02:22 Speaker 2: Absolutely. 01:02:22 Speaker 1: But all of your other information is silly. 01:02:25 Speaker 6: And if you believe that the remote viewing stuff is real, you have to believe he has extra human abilities. 01:02:31 Speaker 2: Right. And so does his team. 01:02:33 Speaker 1: Yeah. What are you doing, Carrie? This isn't no regular surface human. 01:02:37 Speaker 2: Right. 01:02:37 Speaker 1: This is a psychic surface human. 01:02:38 Speaker 6: Just because your other fake guests have read fake documents doesn't mean that they have some sort of grasp on truth that this psychic doesn't have. This is. 01:02:46 Speaker 3: This has been, like, since we've started doing Project Camelot episodes, this has been what I've always wanted, is because I've always wanted to know, what does it take for Carrie to go over to the other side? 01:02:57 Speaker 2: She's not on the other side. 01:02:58 Speaker 1: No, no, no. 01:02:59 Speaker 2: She just doesn't like this guy. 01:03:00 Speaker 1: No, no, no. 01:03:00 Speaker 3: I mean, like, she has pushed so hard through the conspiracy theory window that now she's gone all the way to the other side of being skeptical of conspiracy theories. 01:03:10 Speaker 1: She's too deep, man. 01:03:12 Speaker 2: She's gone native. 01:03:13 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. 01:03:14 Speaker 2: So in this next clip, uh, Courtney, uh, Brown. Hey, he's just dumb. 01:03:20 Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah. Jesse Ventura. So he was doing this. I saw one episode where he was just sort of harassing people and saying, where are the reptilians? Where are the reptilians? I don't see any reptilians. Well, it's, you know, that's sort of a decent answer. And we always wondered about that as well until we finished the area 51 project. And now we know exactly where they are. There's a whole large group of them. And living facilities that are very deep under Area 51. 01:03:48 Speaker 6: This is about the Dulce base kind of stuff. 01:03:50 Speaker 3: Yeah. 01:03:51 Speaker 6: The idea that there's connected tunnels underneath like a bunch of military installations. 01:03:55 Speaker 4: Right. 01:03:56 Speaker 6: Area 51, the Dulce base. And I did, I researched this in depth and it all comes. 01:04:02 Speaker 1: Ah, but did you remote view it? 01:04:03 Speaker 6: I didn't, but it all comes from a schizophrenic dude who killed himself. It's a very tragic story if you look into the reality of the Dulce base stuff. It's not real and very, very sad that this guy, through his fake remote viewing, is perpetuating the same stories. 01:04:21 Speaker 3: Isn't it fascinating how that brain virus meme kind of works? 01:04:26 Speaker 1: Like with John Patmos. 01:04:29 Speaker 2: John of Patmos. No, no, no. He was on. 01:04:31 Speaker 1: No, I'm talking about the guy from Full House. 01:04:33 Speaker 5: Oh. 01:04:35 Speaker 2: Uncle Johnny. 01:04:36 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. 01:04:37 Speaker 3: No, like, there's no way that he could ever have imagined that his dumb allegory was going to last for 2,000 years and people were going to think it's real. 01:04:48 Speaker 2: No, no. 01:04:48 Speaker 1: Like, there's no way that was possible. 01:04:50 Speaker 4: Nope. 01:04:50 Speaker 1: Like this guy who invented the Dulcey Tunnels. 01:04:54 Speaker 2: Yeah. 01:04:55 Speaker 1: There's no way he would have expected his ramblings. 01:04:58 Speaker 2: He was just trying to make a living. 01:04:59 Speaker 6: Yeah. 01:04:59 Speaker 1: He would never have expected it. 01:04:59 Speaker 6: He was just trying to make a living going around to UFO conventions and selling fake little scraps of metal and shit like that. 01:05:04 Speaker 2: That's all he was doing. 01:05:05 Speaker 1: Instead, it turns into this brain virus that infects so many people. It's a fascinating thing. 01:05:09 Speaker 6: No, and once we wrap up this episode, you'll see an even more fascinating aspect of the nature of this stuff. 01:05:18 Speaker 3: Does he take off his surface human mask and reveal that he was a reptilian the whole time? 01:05:22 Speaker 2: Why don't we even finish the episode now? 01:05:24 Speaker 6: All right. 01:05:26 Speaker 5: And the deeper you go, the larger the collection of those people are. 01:05:30 Speaker 8: According to Camelot's witnesses for the last 12 years, we've been talked about. to about reptilians by military witnesses and people that have worked. 01:05:40 Speaker 1: In black bodies. 01:05:41 Speaker 5:

Yeah, but that's not what I do, so I can't sort of. 01:05:43 Speaker 8: No, I just want people to know that you might not know of that evidence, but I do. 01:05:49 Speaker 5: Yeah, but I don't know that, though, and I can just say what we have done. Sure. And what we have done is we did investigate Area 51, and we did find what we can describe as reptilians there. 01:06:00 Speaker 2: Of course. 01:06:01 Speaker 5: And they were not particularly friendly. 01:06:03 Speaker 2: Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. 01:06:05 Speaker 3: Because the humanoids committed genocide on their planet, dude. 01:06:09 Speaker 1: Why would they be friendly? 01:06:11 Speaker 6: Well, I mean, yeah. If you believe that, then yeah. I mean, why would they be friendly? 01:06:16 Speaker 1: This guy's story has holes in it, man. 01:06:18 Speaker 2: Swiss cheese. Ridiculous. 01:06:21 Speaker 1: I'm telling you. 01:06:22 Speaker 2: So here's where we get to. 01:06:23 Speaker 1: I'm starting to not believe him. 01:06:25 Speaker 6: We get to, in this next clip, I think what I would describe as the point of no return. 01:06:30 Speaker 2: For Carrie. For the two of them as being broadcasting partners. 01:06:33 Speaker 5: Okay. Okay. And then they can take the information that we have with the war in heaven, which is a ton of information, way more than you get from any other one single source. 01:06:42 Speaker 1: Oh, shit. 01:06:43 Speaker 5: And add that to discussions. So I think this is going to eventually change the tone of all of these discussions. We don't need to speculate so much and guess. We can say, okay, at least we know this much. And based on this much, we can start asking people that do know more, governmental sources, things like that, for more information. You're not going to get this information on the military. The military works for the government. They don't run the government. So you have to. The military is not going to have a revolution. 01:07:16 Speaker 8: We might disagree on whether they run the government or not and whether our president is actually president because there was a military coup. So I'm not going to go there at the moment since that's not the purposes of this interview. But I do appreciate, you know, what you're you're talking about. And I certainly agree that this I do think that the viewings do are it adds to a sort of a litany of information that I certainly have gotten from witnesses who did work for the military as it happens. 01:07:47 Speaker 6: Oh, boy, that's so uncomfortable. 01:07:49 Speaker 1: Oh, shit. 01:07:50 Speaker 2: That's so fucking uncomfortable. 01:07:53 Speaker 6: I mean, in a land of liars, you know, it's really interesting when two liars butt up against each other like this. It's really fascinating because it does go down to like who's asserting dominance. And the two of them are both trying to assert a passive, lazy version of dominance over each other. And it's Carrie's fucking show. She's going to win every time. And so she's right. 01:08:15 Speaker 1: This is a Fox News interview. 01:08:18 Speaker 3: Like, this is whenever Fox News brought out whatever silly liberal voice. 01:08:23 Speaker 1: That would go on there. Yeah, yeah, who would represent liberals so poorly. 01:08:28 Speaker 2: Alan Combs? 01:08:29 Speaker 5: Yeah. 01:08:30 Speaker 1: It's the same thing. Like, Hannity would treat him as a punching bag. Carrie's doing the same thing here. I like it. I like it as a strategy. She's going to get a huge rating. 01:08:38 Speaker 6: But it was like the first 40 minutes or so of the interview was fine, and then it took a turn somewhere, and I'm not entirely sure why. I think it was when he said– It's the military sources. 01:08:47 Speaker 2: Yeah. 01:08:47 Speaker 1: She got offended. 01:08:48 Speaker 6: When he was talking about the millennials that he has working for him. I think that was the term. 01:08:51 Speaker 1: She hates millennials? 01:08:52 Speaker 6: No, because in talking about the millennials, he disparaged the idea of old military sources. But anyway, at that point in the interview, she's kind of like, I'm over this. 01:09:02 Speaker 3: Yeah, you go against the Pendragon, you're going to get Carrie's wrath. 01:09:06 Speaker 2: I think that guy wasn't actually in the military. 01:09:09 Speaker 1: Of course he wasn't. He was in the space military, Dan. 01:09:11 Speaker 2: That's right. 01:09:13 Speaker 6: At this point, she just starts asking questions from the message board, because there's a live stream going. 01:09:19 Speaker 1: Of course. 01:09:20 Speaker 6: And here is one of the questions that I thought was particularly telling. 01:09:24 Speaker 1: Okay. 01:09:26 Speaker 8: So one last question. Someone wants to know if you have information on what Ed Dames calls the kill shot. 01:09:34 Speaker 5: That's the most ridiculous idea I've ever heard in my life. I don't want to even talk about it. 01:09:40 Speaker 4: All right. 01:09:41 Speaker 1: Fair enough. You don't know. Okay. 01:09:43 Speaker 8: Well, it's been great again to talk. 01:09:44 Speaker 1: To you, Answer the question. 01:09:47 Speaker 6: No, it's not that he doesn't know about it. He doesn't want to talk about this. So Ed Dames was another famous remote viewer that made a bunch of nonsense claims. 01:09:58 Speaker 2: I'll just list off some of these. 01:10:00 Speaker 1: Are we talking about JFK? 01:10:01 Speaker 7: No. 01:10:02 Speaker 2: He said that Martians would be caught stealing fertilizer from U.S. companies. 01:10:05 Speaker 6: He said that the existence of Satan would be proven by science. 01:10:08 Speaker 1: Monsanto covers both of those. 01:10:10 Speaker 6: He said that Bill Clinton would be killed in April 1998 on a golf course by lightning. He was replaced by a changeling. He claimed to know the exact location of Amelia Earhart's plane. 01:10:21 Speaker 1: It is Madagascar. 01:10:22 Speaker 6: He claimed that a cylindrical object containing deadly fungus spores

released by an alien intelligence was heading towards Earth in 1998. 01:10:29 Speaker 1: That was a satellite, actually. 01:10:31 Speaker 6: He claimed that Africa would be hit by a major famine due to a wheat fungus that would spread. 01:10:35 Speaker 2: To the Americas. 01:10:36 Speaker 1: Came from my toes. 01:10:37 Speaker 2: And then he predicted the kill shot. 01:10:39 Speaker 4: Yes. 01:10:41 Speaker 2: So this was in the late 90s. 01:10:44 Speaker 6: He predicted that a series of powerful deadly solar flares he termed the kill shot would impact the Earth and wipe out civilization between 2011 and 2013. 01:10:50 Speaker 2: So it didn't happen. Wait, what? 01:10:51 Speaker 5: Yeah. 01:10:58 Speaker 2: It didn't happen. Okay. 01:10:59 Speaker 6: So it's one of those things that really is used as an invalidation of remote viewing. 01:11:04 Speaker 2: Because it didn't happen? Because while a lot. 01:11:06 Speaker 6: Of these claims were like, they didn't come true, Ed Dames was still seen as like a legitimate part of the remote viewing community. 01:11:16 Speaker 7: Right. 01:11:16 Speaker 6: And so this person bringing that up is a, hey, go fuck yourself sort of question. 01:11:22 Speaker 8: Right. 01:11:22 Speaker 6: And Courtney Brown sees through that and is like, I'm not going to dignify that with an answer. 01:11:26 Speaker 4: Yeah. 01:11:27 Speaker 2: Even though back in the day, I'm sure that the two of them... Hung. Yeah. 01:11:31 Speaker 1: Yeah, they were chill. 01:11:32 Speaker 2: They were contemporaries. 01:11:33 Speaker 1: For sure. 01:11:34 Speaker 4: So. 01:11:35 Speaker 3: You don't get the largest remote viewing facility on Earth. 01:11:39 Speaker 1: If you don't know Ed Dames. 01:11:40 Speaker 2: No, you certainly don't. 01:11:42 Speaker 6: So that brings us to the end of the Project Camelot episode. But it doesn't bring us to the end of our episode. 01:11:47 Speaker 1: Oh, no. 01:11:48 Speaker 6: So I've been withholding a certain piece of information from you. 01:11:52 Speaker 1: Wait. Did Carrie go on Alex Jones' show? No. 01:11:56 Speaker 4: No. 01:11:56 Speaker 1: Okay. Did this guy go on Alex's show? 01:11:58 Speaker 6: No. 01:11:59 Speaker 2: This is all still in Project Camelot World. 01:12:01 Speaker 1: Okay. 01:12:02 Speaker 6: So I went to the Farsight website. I went to Farsight.org and I mentioned some. 01:12:07 Speaker 1: Saw a lot of single panel comics. 01:12:09 Speaker 6: I mentioned some of the things that he was involved in. This Courtney Brown was involved in remote viewing. You know, you have the Hitler thing. You have Martin Luther King. You have Area 51, 9-11. All of these are listed on his website as the projects you can view. Climate change. Giza pyramid. 01:12:26 Speaker 2: JFK in the afterlife. 01:12:29 Speaker 1: Reptilians. 01:12:29 Speaker 6: There's one thing that he doesn't list on his website that is a very big piece of his history. And to discuss it, I had to go back and find an episode of

Coast to Coast AM from 1996. What? 01:12:43 Speaker 4: Yeah. 01:12:43 Speaker 2: All right. Please. 01:12:44 Speaker 1: In November of 1996, Courtney Brown went on. 01:12:53 Speaker 6: With Art Bell on Coast to Coast AM to talk about the Hale-Bopp comet. 01:12:59 Speaker 4: Yes. 01:12:59 Speaker 2: Here is the first clip. 01:13:02 Speaker 4: So obviously there's something to this. 01:13:04 Speaker 7: This object is four times, approximately four times. 01:13:08 Speaker 2: Let me be clear. 01:13:08 Speaker 6: He's talking about the object trailing Hale-Bopp, and this is based on a fraudulent image that had come out in the day of this episode in November of 1996. 01:13:18 Speaker 1: Wait, the object trailing Hale-Bopp? 01:13:20 Speaker 2: We're going to get to it. Hold on. 01:13:23 Speaker 7: The size of the planet Earth, and it's headed our way. And it's basically it. Now, I don't know how your commercial break is, but I'll start right now. All right, go ahead, go ahead. Wherever there are beings, they organize themselves. And we now know that in the galaxy out there, there is something called the Galactic Federation, a council. And this remote viewer went on to describe, I'm going into the middle of the session. There's a lot of preparatory stuff that I'm just simply going to omit because of time. 01:13:51 Speaker 4: Fine. 01:13:52 Speaker 7: And this person perceived that this galactic council or some higher order was watching very interested, like they were watching a hologram unfold. It's like watching an election return or something. They are all seated around a table in a subspace. I'm looking at a 4D or something like that. They're very serious about this event, which may be happening, going in a direction, which is not... that this event may go in a direction which is not evolutionary, but only time... will tell, and time is of the essence, and many things are happening. By the way, the person did, of course, the stuff I'm omitting is accurate descriptions that the person did of this object and so on like that. 01:14:36 Speaker 4: Well, I'm not sure I want to omit that. 01:14:41 Speaker 7: They're coming. They're more accurate as they're coming. All right. I'm on page 11 and at the 40-page session, so I want to make sure I cover the most important stuff. 01:14:50 Speaker 6: All right. 01:14:51 Speaker 7: Okay, and I won't omit anything that's really important. He perceived immediately that there was a vortex, something spinning. And then he perceived that there were people on the ground here that were looking up, and there was some structure. And the idea of astronomers and others looking up into the sky, looking at some structure up there. And there was also something going on in subspace. There was an attempt to communicate, this is fundamental. There is a message being sent to someone who is listening but not hearing. It is essential that this person or persons wake up and listen now. Help will be there when it does. 01:15:35 Speaker 4:

So somebody here is being sent a message. 01:15:37 Speaker 3: Us. 01:15:38 Speaker 7: The interpretation of this. 01:15:39 Speaker 4: Is us? Collectively us? 01:15:41 Speaker 7: The interpretation of this session so far is that the message is being sent to us. We're listening, but not understanding. 01:15:48 Speaker 4: Professor, is this message coming from this object? 01:15:52 Speaker 7: Yes, and it's also being coordinated by this larger galactic council. 01:15:59 Speaker 1: When was the fifth element released? 01:16:01 Speaker 6: I don't know that, but I do know... That in March of 1997... We're going to. 01:16:07 Speaker 3: Need to cross-reference this because he just described the plot of The Fifth Element. 01:16:12 Speaker 6: He didn't describe it. His remote viewer did. 01:16:14 Speaker 1: Okay, fine. Let me take a look here. 1997. Holy shit. 01:16:20 Speaker 6: So he predicted the plot of The Fifth Element? He predicted The Fifth Element. 01:16:24 Speaker 1: Call fucking... No, I'm out. Gary Oldman is no longer my favorite actor. 01:16:29 Speaker 6: Jordan, you're missing the forest for the trees. Courtney Brown is the reason that. 01:16:34 Speaker 1: The fifth element happened. 01:16:36 Speaker 5: No. 01:16:37 Speaker 6: He's the reason that the idea went around that a spaceship was following the Hale-Bopp comet. 01:16:43 Speaker 1: I thought he said it was an object the size of Earth. 01:16:45 Speaker 2: It's a huge spaceship. Let's go to the next clip. 01:16:49 Speaker 7: There is a large object out there. It apparently has tunnels in it. It is both technological, artificial, and natural in the sense that it has rocks. as well as metal in it. It's humongous. It's absolutely large. And it is apparently moving in artificial means. It's not moving like a normal celestial body means. It's under control. 01:17:13 Speaker 4: It's a vehicle. 01:17:14 Speaker 7: It's moving, and it's four times the size of the planet Earth. This is a big E.T. 01:17:20 Speaker 3: Thing. 01:17:20 Speaker 7: One thing you must say about the E.T. is that when they decide to put on a show, oh, boy. They know theater. They know theater. This is better than anything on Broadway. 01:17:29 Speaker 4: Yeah, it works for me. 01:17:30 Speaker 1: Works for him. Thanks, Art. 01:17:33 Speaker 6: So you understand what I'm getting at here? Courtney Brown. 01:17:38 Speaker 1: That he's been right the whole time about everything? 01:17:41 Speaker 6: Courtney Brown, the guy that we've been going over on this episode of Project Camelot in 2018. 01:17:47 Speaker 2: Wait, this was now? Well, the episode of Project Camelot was. 01:17:53 Speaker 1: No shit. 01:17:55 Speaker 6: In 1996, he went on Art Bell and basically, through his remote viewing bullshit, created the idea that a spaceship was following the Hale-Bopp comet. This was picked up by the Heaven's Gate cult and led to the deaths of 39 people. 01:18:10 Speaker 5: What? 01:18:11 Speaker 4: Yeah. 01:18:12 Speaker 1: He was the one who killed the Heaven's Gate people? 01:18:14 Speaker 5: Yeah. 01:18:15 Speaker 2: You know why it happened? 01:18:16 Speaker 7: Wait. 01:18:19 Speaker 6: It's not all his fault, although he's playing with fire when he plays games like this. 01:18:23 Speaker 8: Yeah. 01:18:23 Speaker 6: But the entire idea of Heaven's Gate with the next level and that there's going to be like we're learning lessons here and there's messages from space that we need to listen to. The way he's presenting it on this episode of Art Bell, it just so happens it specifically falls in line with the teachings that Marshall Applewhite was putting forward to his flock. This idea that like when he says in this episode of Art Bell's shit. he's like, oh, did you like this space item, this space object? The message is we aren't hearing them, but there's an individual who needs to listen. How could Marshall Applewhite not end up like This is so clear that he got all of this from this episode of Art Bell. 01:19:10 Speaker 1: Really? 01:19:10 Speaker 2: Yeah. 01:19:11 Speaker 6: Yep. 01:19:12 Speaker 1: Nobody knows this. 01:19:13 Speaker 7: Yep. 01:19:13 Speaker 3: That can't be true. When did Heaven's Gate happen? I mean, I know when they killed themselves. 01:19:19 Speaker 2: Do you? 01:19:20 Speaker 3: Well, because it was right around when the Hale-Bopp comic was flying around. 01:19:24 Speaker 2: It was March, I believe, 24th through 26th of 1997. 01:19:26 Speaker 6: Yeah, because they did it in shifts. And the idea of Hale-Bopp being part of it and the object floating behind Hale-Bopp and the suicide stuff was not a part of their cult for the preceding 20 years. 01:19:44 Speaker 1: No shit. 01:19:45 Speaker 6: Heaven's Gate existed for a really long time before they ended up becoming a suicidal doomsday cult. 01:19:51 Speaker 1: No shit. Well, yeah, they were a great internet company for a while. 01:19:54 Speaker 2: Sure. Weirdly enough. They did do tech help. 01:19:56 Speaker 1: They did do a lot of great tech help. They were, for all that I have heard. I think it was. 01:20:00 Speaker 6: Higher Source or something like that was the name of their company. 01:20:02 Speaker 1: Apparently they were great at it. 01:20:04 Speaker 6: But you understand, like, the reason that I'm bringing all this up, there's literally no way to get around the idea that There happened to be a crazy dude who was a cult leader and his teachings matched up entirely with what this guy went around and spit on Art Bell's show. There's an obvious one to one connection that he listened to this episode of Art Bell. And that's where he started to come up with the ideas that led to the. 01:20:33 Speaker 1: This is the biggest scoop of our career. 01:20:35 Speaker 2: No, it's not. 01:20:36 Speaker 1: Did everybody know this? I've never heard this before. 01:20:39 Speaker 6: They made reference to it on that podcast about Heaven's Gate. I believe Heaven's Gate was the name of it. It's a really good

podcast. 01:20:46 Speaker 1: Oh, they did reference that? 01:20:47 Speaker 2: People should listen to it. 01:20:48 Speaker 6: Oh, damn it. But even as I was listening to this episode of Project Camelot, I didn't put the pieces together that this Courtney Brown was the guy in that episode of Art Bell. from 1996, who created the entire mythology around the idea of a spaceship coming behind Hale-Lopp. 01:21:07 Speaker 1: That's fucking bananas. 01:21:08 Speaker 4: Yep. 01:21:09 Speaker 1: And he just made this up. 01:21:10 Speaker 2: Yeah. 01:21:10 Speaker 3: Like, there's no other recorded situation before this, other than, of course. 01:21:14 Speaker 2: The guy who... None that I know of. 01:21:16 Speaker 1: Well, other than the. 01:21:17 Speaker 3: Guy who wrote The Fifth Element, who happened to be working for him at the time as a remote viewer. 01:21:21 Speaker 6: There were, like, those fraudulent pictures that were sort of doctored up. And there was actually even a scandal about that involving Courtney Brown. Because he sent Art Bell some pictures that he had gotten from an anonymous astrophysicist telescope guy source. 01:21:39 Speaker 1: Right. 01:21:39 Speaker 6: And it turned out that they were doctored pictures from the University of Hawaii. 01:21:44 Speaker 1: Of course. 01:21:44 Speaker 2: And he's like, no, no, they absolutely weren't, and I can prove it. Did he prove it? Nope, he didn't. Oh, okay. 01:21:49 Speaker 6: And to this day, he refuses to say who that anonymous source for these pictures were. 01:21:56 Speaker 7: Right. 01:21:56 Speaker 6: He's caught up in an elaborate fucking hoax. that ended up being really, really fucking dangerous. 01:22:04 Speaker 1: That's crazy. 01:22:05 Speaker 6: Now, granted, we can take a step back and we can really realize that the situations, if you look into what was going on in the Heaven's Gate cult, were dangerous already. 01:22:18 Speaker 8: Oh, yeah? 01:22:18 Speaker 6: No matter what, there is a chance. 01:22:21 Speaker 3: Oh? 01:22:22 Speaker 6: There's a chance that they were going to end up committing suicide anyway. 01:22:25 Speaker 2: Right. But this obviously 100% fed into it. And the reason that I'm. 01:22:30 Speaker 1: Cults don't end until they kill a lot of people. 01:22:32 Speaker 6: But also, cults generally don't end until there's a satisfying narrative for the leader to play out. Like, the only reason that Jonestown ended the way it did is because, eh, we fucking shot a senator. 01:22:44 Speaker 2: Yeah. We gotta pull it. 01:22:46 Speaker 6: Whereas the story he would have probably rather lived out with the mass suicide would have been slightly different and less forced and rushed than it was. 01:22:55 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying with Jim Jones? Yeah, yeah, yeah. 01:22:57 Speaker 6: I think that this episode of Coast to Coast 100% gave Marshall Applewhite the narrative and gave the idea of like, oh shit, this entirely, for 20 years we've been saying that aliens are going to bring us to the next level. 01:23:13 Speaker 1: And now we know. 01:23:13 Speaker 6: Now we have the story. This is a professor. This is a professor who's going on this show. 01:23:18 Speaker 2: He has a doctorate. He's no slouch. 01:23:20 Speaker 1: What's his doctorate in? 01:23:21 Speaker 6: Don't remember it's not it's not in anything relevant silliness political science or something like that of course of course but uh we got one more uh episode one more clip here from back in 1999 uh that really drives home and like this was the sort of stuff i was listening to earlier and got nauseous listening to the main guy needs. 01:23:40 Speaker 7: To listen or too many people will not be allowed um actually will be disturbed by something uh there are many people being interested. Some type of a partnership is underway with regard to the subspace column. The structures may be discovered or utilized before the entire decoding process is handled. And then he goes on into a lot about this decoding process. 01:24:05 Speaker 4: Wait, wait, wait. 01:24:06 Speaker 7: What does that mean? The structures may be utilized. Meaning, the structure is the structure we're looking at up in space. 01:24:13 Speaker 8: Yes. 01:24:14 Speaker 7: And it's got some information it's trying to Its whole purpose is to convey to us some information, and we have to decode it. It's our process, our educational process, to understand what it's trying to say. And most of what it's trying to say has to deal with not just the physical, but the subspace realm of life. 01:24:32 Speaker 1: What's the subspace realm of life, Dan? 01:24:34 Speaker 6: It's open to interpretation, to the point where a cult leader who was very frequently and one of the biggest teachings of the Heaven's Gate shit was that, like, You know, our bodies aren't really, that's not who we are. There's a sub-level, our souls, that sort of shit. 01:24:52 Speaker 1: Right, right, right. 01:24:56 Speaker 6: I don't know how to put a button on this. But, like, when we talk about, like, the Project Camelot stuff, it's super fun because it's fucking stupid. But at the same time, the episodes about Mark Richards and the Raptors and stuff like that, he's a murderer. 01:25:12 Speaker 1: He is a fucking murderer. You understand? 01:25:16 Speaker 5: Yeah. 01:25:16 Speaker 1: And so we have this episode that's. 01:25:17 Speaker 6: Super fun about Courtney Brown coming on and talking about how he has figured out the war in heaven. 01:25:24 Speaker 2: And we can laugh and have a lot of fun with that. You look at his past. 01:25:27 Speaker 6: He's responsible, not responsible, but he had his hand in the deaths of 39 people and the end of the Heaven's Gate cult. 01:25:35 Speaker 1: I know, and I get that. This is serious stuff. 01:25:38 Speaker 3: No, no, no. I do understand what you're saying, and I get it. My problem is it is a micro version of religion. My problem is it's a micro version of the worship of guns in this

country that keeps us from stopping any kind of school. 01:25:57 Speaker 1: Jordan, hey, Jordan. That's why we cover this stuff on the podcast. I know, but that's why. 01:26:05 Speaker 3: I'm struggling to feel any kind of disgust or any kind of emotional connection to this. Because it's, relatively speaking, in the grand scheme of all of the reasons people murder a shit ton of people, hilarious. 01:26:20 Speaker 1: Objectively hilarious. 01:26:21 Speaker 2: Well, I guess. 01:26:22 Speaker 1: And if you're in the Heaven's Gate Club... Club. Uh, if you're, if you're in the heavens, what my favorite. Okay. So I have a great pool. 01:26:30 Speaker 3: I had the model UN club and I had the heavens gate club where we acted it out is great. 01:26:35 Speaker 1: Um, we would debate things. No, I have limited sympathy for heavens gate people. 01:26:41 Speaker 6: Like it's not, I'm not, I'm not interested in sympathy. 01:26:44 Speaker 2: That's not the game I'm playing. 01:26:46 Speaker 8: Okay. 01:26:46 Speaker 6: That's not the conversation I'm having. The conversation that I'm trying to bring to you is there are very serious consequences of, for people who play these sorts of crazy games. 01:26:58 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? 01:26:59 Speaker 1: Absolutely. 01:27:00 Speaker 6: There's a real-world piece of the fantasy game that Carrie Cassidy is playing on Project Camelot that if you scrape beneath the surface a little bit with a bunch of the people that she has on, you find their involvement in very dangerous things. 01:27:16 Speaker 2: Whether it be a murder. 01:27:18 Speaker 6: Or whether it be a hoax that he perpetrated on Coast to Coast AM that fed into a ritual mass suicide. 01:27:25 Speaker 8: Right. 01:27:26 Speaker 1: So if we. 01:27:27 Speaker 3: Take from that and extrapolate it out, Jerusalem isn't that big a deal, guys. 01:27:32 Speaker 2: I didn't say that. 01:27:33 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, Jerusalem, you heard it here first. Not that big a deal. 01:27:39 Speaker 2: My point is. 01:27:40 Speaker 1: That whole Jesus thing? 01:27:41 Speaker 5: Eh. 01:27:42 Speaker 3: He was a lot like Courtney Brown. Jesus was the Courtney Brown of the Bible. That's what I'm going to say. 01:27:48 Speaker 2: All right. Fine. Let that be the answer. 01:27:52 Speaker 6: The other point that I wanted to make is that you can have stuff like this in your past and, you know, people can know about it and. 01:28:00 Speaker 2: It doesn't matter. 01:28:01 Speaker 1: No, it doesn't seem to. 01:28:04 Speaker 6: His behavior in 1996 should legitimately disqualify him from anybody listening to him ever again. 01:28:11 Speaker 5: Yeah. 01:28:11 Speaker 6: He has a website and an institute where he tricks people into getting training in remote viewing, which costs them a lot of money for the training. 01:28:19 Speaker 1: How much does it cost? 01:28:20 Speaker 2: I don't know. I didn't get an exact figure on it. 01:28:22 Speaker 6: But then he also sells his bullshit channeled movies and people buy it because people are into this fucking ding dong world. And I look, I'm not coming down on people being interested in these sorts of topics and stuff like that. I'm coming down on the idea of con artists using it so easily and there being no consequences like most of the people who watch Project Camelot probably don't know this part of Cameron Brown or Courtney Brown's history of course they probably don't know March Mark Richards was the Pendragon they don't know these things. 01:28:56 Speaker 3: Well the Millennials didn't grow up with him Right. 01:28:59 Speaker 1: Saying dumb shit on coast to coast. So, of course, it's millennials. 01:29:01 Speaker 2: Right. 01:29:02 Speaker 6: And everyone just assumes this guy has a doctorate. He probably knows some stuff. I've heard of remote viewing before. It's probably real. And therefore, he gets to play out his cycle again. 01:29:12 Speaker 7: Right. 01:29:12 Speaker 6: And whatever comes of a lot of this remote viewing stuff, you could end up. I mean, you just got to be careful because you're making stuff up. And some crazy person might hear that stuff that you're making up and run with it. And that's exactly the same as Alex Jones. 01:29:26 Speaker 2: Right. Does the crazy stuff he makes up, people run with. 01:29:29 Speaker 6: And they end up harassing victims' families and shooting up a pizza place. 01:29:34 Speaker 3: It comes back to, again, one of the things that I feel like justifies our. 01:29:39 Speaker 1: And, of course, I have to have some sort of rationalization for it. But one of the things that. 01:29:43 Speaker 3: Justifies the way that we attack Alex Jones and Project Camelot is because these guys are the weakest link in that con artist game. 01:29:52 Speaker 2: And very popular. 01:29:53 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. 01:29:55 Speaker 2: You know, like. 01:29:56 Speaker 3: Alex Jones is the weakest link of the conservative propaganda wing. 01:29:59 Speaker 1: He's so clearly and obviously stupid. 01:30:01 Speaker 2: Well, there's worse on like blog talk radio probably. 01:30:04 Speaker 1: Right, right, right. 01:30:05 Speaker 3: But when you see through it, all of a sudden now you have the tools to see through all of the other dumb conservative propaganda. 01:30:12 Speaker 4: Yeah. 01:30:12 Speaker 1: Because you can tell they're using the same tricks. 01:30:15 Speaker 2: Exactly. 01:30:15 Speaker 1: They're just less obvious about it. 01:30:17 Speaker 5: Yeah. 01:30:17 Speaker 3: Like the Project Camelot shit, the Courtney Brown shit, like that is just a less obvious version of... Of the game that so many religions are playing. 01:30:25 Speaker 4: Sure. 01:30:26 Speaker 1: Like, that's what it is. 01:30:27 Speaker 6: And any time you hear stuff like this from people, consider for a moment that they might have an incredibly checkered past of hoaxes behind them. 01:30:36 Speaker 7: Right. 01:30:36 Speaker 1: But Joel Osteen, you can trust. 01:30:37

Speaker 5: Right. 01:30:38 Speaker 1: You can trust. 01:30:38 Speaker 2: Also, shout out to Dr. Poodle Papa in the chat room. 01:30:41 Speaker 4: All right. 01:30:42 Speaker 2: Called it early that it was a Heaven's Gate thing. 01:30:44 Speaker 1: All right. God damn it. 01:30:45 Speaker 6: Not super early in the episode, but. 01:30:48 Speaker 3: Before the Heaven's Gate started? 01:30:50 Speaker 2: A bit, yeah. All right. Damn it. 01:30:51 Speaker 6: And then also bringing up the podcast that I mentioned, the Heaven's Gate podcast. 01:30:58 Speaker 5: Yeah. 01:30:58 Speaker 2: And recommending it. And I also recommend it. 01:31:00 Speaker 6: It's a good listen with the caveat that the host of it is a two-bit jazz weirdo. 01:31:07 Speaker 1: Yeah, I listened to it. 01:31:08 Speaker 2: Jazz talk weirdo. 01:31:10 Speaker 3: It was not compelling orally. 01:31:14 Speaker 6: I think the story and the research in it is amazing and really interesting, but the voiceover. 01:31:19 Speaker 2: Is very difficult. 01:31:20 Speaker 1: Tough to listen to. 01:31:21 Speaker 2: So much hip cat kind of chat. 01:31:24 Speaker 1: It wasn't bad. 01:31:25 Speaker 3: It was like if you listen to NPR for more than an hour, you start to lose your mind. 01:31:29 Speaker 2: Yeah. But anyway, it's good. I enjoy it. I recommend it. 01:31:32 Speaker 6: And look, dude, this is the end. 01:31:35 Speaker 2: We made our point. Be careful. 01:31:37 Speaker 1: All religions are wrong. Wasn't that our point? That was our point, right? 01:31:42 Speaker 6: Just be careful. When you hear things, be careful. Especially nowadays. 01:31:50 Speaker 1: Be thoughtful. 01:31:50 Speaker 2: Just think. 01:31:52 Speaker 6: So, I will name someone to fuck themselves. 01:31:55 Speaker 1: I think it's obvious this week. 01:31:57 Speaker 2: Art Bell? 01:32:00 Speaker 1: No, that's every week. Are you sure? 01:32:03 Speaker 2: So no, not Art Bell? 01:32:04 Speaker 1: No, no, no. 01:32:05 Speaker 2: No, go ahead. 01:32:06 Speaker 1: I was going to say Art Bell. Really? 01:32:07 Speaker 2: Yeah. 01:32:08 Speaker 1: You were going to say Art Bell? 01:32:09 Speaker 5: Why? 01:32:09 Speaker 1: Because he allowed that to happen. Art Bell was on Coast to Coast AM. What else is he going to do? 01:32:14 Speaker 2: George Norrie wouldn't do that. 01:32:15 Speaker 1: Well, of course George Norrie wouldn't do that. Yeah, he probably would. He would totally do that. 01:32:18 Speaker 2: Yeah, but go ahead. 01:32:19 Speaker 1: I think the obvious person to say go fuck yourself to. 01:32:22 Speaker 2: Oh, wait. We didn't even do any plugs. We have a website called. 01:32:24 Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. KnowledgeFight.com. 01:32:26 Speaker 8: Yeah. 01:32:26 Speaker 2: Also Twitter. 01:32:27 Speaker 1: At KnowledgeFight. 01:32:28 Speaker 5: Yep. 01:32:29 Speaker 2: Facebook. 01:32:30 Speaker 1: Facebook. 01:32:30 Speaker 4: Yep. 01:32:31 Speaker 1: We are on iTunes. 01:32:33 Speaker 6: Yep. 01:32:34 Speaker 2: Anyway, who, what? 01:32:36 Speaker 1: Well, I think Marshall Applewhite, you can go fuck yourself. 01:32:40 Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess so. 01:32:42 Speaker 1: Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding. 01:32:46 Speaker 5: Hello, Alex. 01:32:46 Speaker 4: I'm a first-time caller. 01:32:47 Speaker 5: I'm a huge fan. 01:32:48 Speaker 8: I love your work. 01:32:49 Speaker 2: I love you.