Full Transcript for Evolution or Revolution?

novice side of doing. 00:04:49.730 --> 00:05:04.220 Um, Shabari to where I got to the point where I can do like, you know, some, some Karate's some, uh, some restraint, you know, like arm, uh, arm restraint, or like a knee, a knee restraint type tie, that type of stuff. 00:05:04.310 --> 00:05:13.149 Um, so between the, the BDSM and the Shabari is kind of what, you know, Peaked our interest and kind of took us down that road. 00:05:13.949 --> 00:05:14.339 Yeah, I know. 00:05:14.360 --> 00:05:21.889 Those are two things that we've seen such a rise in, um, especially in the last few years is Shabari is becoming a very popular one. 00:05:21.889 --> 00:05:26.459 In fact, like we, we teach a class on Shabari for, uh, for people to get an introduction to it. 00:05:26.779 --> 00:05:28.370 So I can get right on board with you. 00:05:28.379 --> 00:05:32.529 It's just something about the aesthetics as well as some of the power play that you can get into. 00:05:32.824 --> 00:05:39.555 Whenever it comes to something like Shabari or, and then a lot of the stuff, whatever it comes like the impact play, that's something that, that we participate in as well. 00:05:39.564 --> 00:05:47.324 And so in fact, some of our most fun times that we've had has been at parties where they'll have like, or they'll have, uh, something going on. 00:05:47.334 --> 00:05:49.355 Her first experience with impact play. 00:05:49.865 --> 00:05:50.365 Was 00:05:50.634 --> 00:05:56.545 it was our, the, it was my, not only was it my first experience with impact play, but it was our first experience at a sex party. 00:05:56.805 --> 00:05:57.125 Yes. 00:05:57.165 --> 00:06:01.824 That was just a whole, whole new doors were open for us. 00:06:03.045 --> 00:06:03.904 That's a lot. 00:06:04.404 --> 00:06:11.365 If you combine those two things at the same time for a first time, that's, that's definitely a lot. 00:06:11.365 --> 00:06:12.314 There's a lot going on. 00:06:12.375 --> 00:06:13.504 There's a lot going on there. 00:06:14.235 --> 00:06:16.214 We can say it's like kink journalism for us. 00:06:16.915 --> 00:06:18.204 So tell me a little bit more. 00:06:18.204 --> 00:06:24.295 You said that in the early days there were, y'all started setting up these, these kink events, uh, in the clubs and all that. 00:06:24.295 --> 00:06:27.035 What was the experience like of navigating those roads? 00:06:28.115 --> 00:06:32.175 Um, well, we, uh, we worked with the club owners. 00:06:32.274 --> 00:06:36.185 Uh, it was actually the club owners that was doing the setups and that type of stuff. 00:06:36.264 --> 00:06:59.514 And, I would go in and, you know, to set up, do my DJ set up, do my gig that night or whatever, and I'll be sitting around talking with the owners, you know, as we kind of decided what type of event we was going to do, and then we started going through the dynamics and the actual logistics of, you know, putting that together and be like, Hey, do you know somebody that's a dom or a female? 00:06:59.514 --> 00:07:00.495 That's a dominatrix. 00:07:00.495 --> 00:07:01.035 Cause. 00:07:01.375 --> 00:07:02.855 We want to get one. 00:07:03.264 --> 00:07:11.564 Um, do you know anybody, you know, do you know somebody that knows somebody and it was kind of, which at that time it was really difficult. 00:07:11.564 --> 00:07:15.865 It was a lot of word of mouth because you didn't have Instagram. 00:07:15.875 --> 00:07:17.865 You didn't, I don't even think Facebook was on. 00:07:18.204 --> 00:07:19.944 It was very, it was a very much. 00:07:20.220 --> 00:07:21.360 underground scene. 00:07:21.399 --> 00:07:23.029 It wasn't all about getting 00:07:23.029 --> 00:07:23.810 on Craig's list. 00:07:24.889 --> 00:07:25.170 Yeah. 00:07:26.379 --> 00:07:28.500 I mean, you're going, you're going on my space one. 00:07:28.500 --> 00:07:30.220 Is anybody know a dominatrix? 00:07:30.279 --> 00:07:31.629 I mean, checking 00:07:31.629 --> 00:07:34.149 out people's top eight to see if you can see any details. 00:07:35.149 --> 00:07:37.620 And you had to know somebody who knew somebody. 00:07:37.620 --> 00:07:47.439 So with, with working through those types of logistics and stuff, especially for the first It was, it took us almost like eight months. 00:07:47.500 --> 00:07:49.435 Well, that, and then you to, to put it on. 00:07:49.584 --> 00:07:49.875 Yeah. 00:07:49.879 --> 00:07:53.350 And then somebody had to like vouch for you to get you into the scene. 00:07:53.379 --> 00:07:53.500 Yes. 00:07:53.709 --> 00:07:55.839 It wasn't, you couldn't just walk into a scene. 00:07:55.839 --> 00:08:00.220 Like you had to have somebody that you to get you in. 00:08:00.550 --> 00:08:00.790 Right. 00:08:00.879 --> 00:08:10.360 Um, where we kinda helped us out a lot was the fact that I did have, you know, a following as far as with my DJing and that type of stuff. 00:08:10.360 --> 00:08:12.370 There was actually folks that come to the club. 00:08:12.935 --> 00:08:28.865 Just because I was DJ, I mean, not a brag or anything like that, but, um, so I started relying on those types of resources going, Hey, look, uh, this might seem kind of weird, but you wouldn't happen to know anybody that likes to spank people. 00:08:28.865 --> 00:08:29.334 Okay. 00:08:31.795 --> 00:08:32.904 What's that really? 00:08:33.004 --> 00:08:36.164 It sounds kind of funny, but it was very, very beneficial to. 00:08:36.559 --> 00:08:58.245 You know, myself and to the club owners utilizing that, uh, audience or that club, regular base that we had, um, there was a ton of resources there and we found out, you know, somebody happened to have a cross and we're like, Okay, maybe we'll get one of those and throw it in the corner over here. 00:08:58.294 --> 00:09:09.565 And then, you know, somebody else knew somebody that liked to be tied up and you know, it was just kind of gradually one person at a time, one. 00:09:09.940 --> 00:09:21.409 Thought at a time or what I did at a time and working through

it, um, and then bringing it all together for that, for that night, for the actual show. 00:09:21.480 --> 00:09:21.620 It 00:09:21.620 --> 00:09:24.139 was very much about pushing boundaries. 00:09:24.299 --> 00:09:24.820 Definitely. 00:09:24.929 --> 00:09:29.210 Um, more so now because I think that fit and kink is more accessible. 00:09:29.570 --> 00:09:31.480 That's good now than it was back then. 00:09:31.480 --> 00:09:32.940 Yeah. 00:09:33.620 --> 00:09:45.220 That's something that we've, we've had discussion on before is the fact that you're, you're talking about a time whenever it was all still very much underground where it wasn't okay to come out and do it in the, in the regular public and being like, Hey, guess what? 00:09:45.220 --> 00:09:48.330 Everybody, I love leather wear and I love getting beat with 00:09:49.330 --> 00:09:50.799 I'll be real honest with you. 00:09:50.860 --> 00:09:58.490 I mean, compared to our very first one that we was involved in and compared to the one that, uh, We, we just finished. 00:09:59.039 --> 00:10:02.230 Instagram was, oh wow. 00:10:02.240 --> 00:10:05.019 That was a lifesaver because I'll be honest with you. 00:10:05.059 --> 00:10:11.769 I don't know if we could go back to Myspace and try and put it together now. 00:10:13.100 --> 00:10:13.360 Yeah. 00:10:13.370 --> 00:10:15.350 Facebook was very, very helpful. 00:10:15.399 --> 00:10:18.865 Um, Instagram, those different types of platforms. 00:10:18.865 --> 00:10:21.565 People, deep 00:10:21.565 --> 00:10:26.965 alum, people on Fitlife. 00:10:26.965 --> 00:10:30.004 That just the community was so welcoming. 00:10:30.024 --> 00:10:33.514 And, you know, I really appreciate them and everything that they did for us. 00:10:33.605 --> 00:10:33.815 Yeah. 00:10:33.815 --> 00:10:35.914 And we're begging for events like this to happen. 00:10:35.914 --> 00:10:37.164 So really, thank you. 00:10:37.195 --> 00:10:37.815 Yeah, for real. 00:10:38.195 --> 00:10:39.485 There needs to be more. 00:10:39.514 --> 00:10:39.794 And 00:10:41.679 --> 00:10:43.250 It's not a one off there. 00:10:43.250 --> 00:10:52.600 We're already in the process of which maybe we can, you know, test based on this a little bit later, but we're definitely on in the process already of getting the next one together. 00:10:53.559 --> 00:10:53.889 Good. 00:10:53.889 --> 00:10:56.700 Well, send that and hang out with you guys in person. 00:10:57.169 --> 00:11:00.965 Um, I know that one of the things that you had just said ours was that, um. 00:11:01.014 --> 00:11:02.485 You're talking about the community, right? 00:11:02.904 --> 00:11:05.365 And this is a, this is a question we get all the time. 00:11:05.375 --> 00:11:18.164 People that are, um, I mean, if he, if you're a first time listener, then you need to hear that this show that we primarily do is about introducing people into, into the kink community, introducing people into, into new experiences. 00:11:18.625 --> 00:11:22.914 And one of the most important things that we can tell people all the time is how. 00:11:23.294 --> 00:11:31.085 How paramount it is to start to build some sort of circle, start to introduce yourself to people and everyone's start sitting back going, well, I don't even know how to start doing that. 00:11:31.085 --> 00:11:32.095 What am I supposed to do? 00:11:32.475 --> 00:11:35.595 And, you know, they'll sit back and say, well, I heard you're, I'm supposed to go on fat life. 00:11:35.894 --> 00:11:44.715 And we always say like, have a little disclaimer, whatever it comes to things like that life to make sure that you you're checking the people out who are talking with you, make sure you're looking for green flags. 00:11:44.914 --> 00:11:52.774 And so I would love to hear from you guys about what y'all's advice would be to people who are trying to get inserted into a community. 00:11:53.184 --> 00:12:06.465 Um, maybe some things that they should look for and the people that they're interacting with, and maybe some things that might be a little bit of a red flag, like, Hey, um, if somebody is interacting in a certain way, uh, that you might look for a different community. 00:12:07.465 --> 00:12:23.054 Well, I think that, um, it's more, I mean, if you're starting out, I would think to, um, definitely go to events and, um, start kind of Experiencing some of these events and what they're about. 00:12:23.455 --> 00:12:32.264 Um, I think three of the main things that you have to have in the community is going to be trust, safety, and mutual respect. 00:12:32.414 --> 00:12:32.644 Yes. 00:12:32.684 --> 00:12:41.904 And as long as you have those three, I think you're going to be able to navigate fine, just fine within the community. 00:12:42.355 --> 00:12:42.855 Um, 00:12:43.445 --> 00:12:47.565 my, my best advice was she's 100 percent correct, but I think. 00:12:48.695 --> 00:12:54.485 From my experiences, everything starts with communication. 00:12:54.784 --> 00:12:55.375 Okay. 00:12:55.375 --> 00:13:09.865 You have to have these clear lines of what your boundaries are and you have to be able to express or convey to that person that you're looking at to be a potential. 00:13:10.419 --> 00:13:34.090 Um, to potential potential dog, to a potential rigger, uh, some of that nature there to have these conversations with these individuals and see what they're about, see what makes them tick, see, you know, where they are and how they've grown and then sit back and evaluate that. 00:13:34.159 --> 00:13:45.065 Is that, is if that is somebody that you could, Move forward with, or if you need to step back and evaluate the next individual. 00:13:45.065 --> 00:13:48.044 It's forgive the expressions, kind of like a job interview. 00:13:48.585 --> 00:14:00.445 Um, you gotta know what that person is bringing to the table and whether it kind of gels with you and where you are at in your mentality, in your space. 00:14:00.509 --> 00:14:27.100 And once you start identifying those things,

then you turn around and you start asking those individuals, those more specific, more key or BDSM or more voyeur type, uh, space questions to further, you know, extend that communication, extend those and get past some of those barriers. 00:14:27.534 --> 00:14:33.575 Um, and then like she said, go to events and stuff like that. 00:14:33.575 --> 00:14:37.894 So have these questions, kind of have these different mentalities and thoughts in mind. 00:14:38.095 --> 00:14:43.975 Whenever you go to these events and take things slow, don't rush into anything. 00:14:44.664 --> 00:14:44.825 Okay. 00:14:45.414 --> 00:14:48.254 Make sure you feel safe, make sure you feel comfortable. 00:14:48.784 --> 00:14:52.455 Make sure you have the answers to those questions that you have. 00:14:53.075 --> 00:14:57.184 And if you have any doubts, you always have time. 00:14:57.445 --> 00:15:02.524 Okay, you can't go fast enough to crash. 00:15:02.654 --> 00:15:06.825 Okay, so take things one step at a time. 00:15:06.955 --> 00:15:09.774 Go on your pace, your mentality. 00:15:10.245 --> 00:15:11.835 And where you're comfortable. 00:15:12.315 --> 00:15:15.955 And like I said, forget the expression, check your boxes. 00:15:16.065 --> 00:15:16.804 Okay. 00:15:16.904 --> 00:15:27.304 And if a box is not being checked, then maybe we need, you know, kind of look at what's going on and why, or what process we need to do or questions we need to ask. 00:15:27.575 --> 00:15:30.567 In order to get that box check to move forward comfortably. 00:15:30.567 --> 00:15:32.554 Yeah, I mean, I totally agree. 00:15:32.605 --> 00:15:37.605 And one of the things that I already said that really stuck out too, uh, is going to an events. 00:15:37.654 --> 00:15:46.445 So if someone has never been to a kink event and let's talk about yours, what could someone expect to see at this type of event? 00:15:47.495 --> 00:16:01.085 Um, I think it depends on the type of event, because we're plotting and planning constantly on, you know, the different types of events that we can bring our 1st event was very. 00:16:01.700 --> 00:16:09.289 I don't want to use the word mild, but it was definitely like the inaugural event, like, you know, 00:16:09.669 --> 00:16:10.240 testing the waters. 00:16:10.259 --> 00:16:13.629 And that was the evolution event that happened on April 20th, right? 00:16:14.460 --> 00:16:15.139 That's correct. 00:16:15.210 --> 00:16:23.975 Um, so we had, you know, a lot of latex, like the, the, The attendees were absolutely stunning. 00:16:24.355 --> 00:16:30.544 Um, the performers were, I mean, above, went above and beyond. 00:16:30.554 --> 00:16:35.985 And so, but I think we didn't have, um, there was no intercourse. 00:16:36.414 --> 00:16:43.044 No, there was, um, I mean, I don't want, we had a mobile dungeon, so there was some impact play. 00:16:43.404 --> 00:16:49.184 Um, but yeah, like I said, it just depends on the type of event because we are definitely. 00:16:49.659 --> 00:16:52.190 Like planning more and 00:16:52.190 --> 00:16:52.950 more. 00:16:53.129 --> 00:17:15.099 And there's that big separation that we have of people in the, in the world of kink, where it's like, there's a difference between having a play party versus having like an expo event with filled with vendors and performances and those, Those are for the, for a most an everyday day to be able to attend some of these events where it is, if you want to, you can enter into a mobile dungeon where there's going to be a St. 00:17:15.099 --> 00:17:23.599 Andrew's cross and some spanking benches and various tools to try out as well as instructors to maybe be like, here's how you would do this or even introduce people. 00:17:23.940 --> 00:17:31.670 And at the same time, you can go out and into the event floor and see, you know, a Shabari performance, or you can see maybe a pole dancing performance. 00:17:31.680 --> 00:17:33.589 What are some of the performances? 00:17:33.900 --> 00:17:36.670 Who are some of the performers that you guys had at y'all's first event? 00:17:37.900 --> 00:17:42.259 Um, well, we had, uh, we had Brianna. 00:17:42.349 --> 00:17:46.069 She was our, uh, artistic director. 00:17:46.099 --> 00:17:46.299 Yeah. 00:17:46.579 --> 00:17:50.000 Um, and she, she also did a performance. 00:17:50.049 --> 00:17:53.880 We had Iliad who'd come up from Austin, Texas. 00:17:54.575 --> 00:17:58.204 And he did a led pole performance. 00:17:58.414 --> 00:17:58.904 Oh, cool. 00:17:58.914 --> 00:17:59.664 Um, 00:17:59.755 --> 00:18:00.634 we had Carissia. 00:18:01.335 --> 00:18:01.694 Yes. 00:18:01.855 --> 00:18:04.134 She was, um, a pole performer. 00:18:04.204 --> 00:18:07.015 She was our, one of our ambiance pole performers. 00:18:07.144 --> 00:18:09.454 Um, then we had Mr. 00:18:09.454 --> 00:18:10.144 Juggles. 00:18:10.944 --> 00:18:13.500 He did an led pole. 00:18:13.500 --> 00:18:17.190 juggling, strip juggling, striptease. 00:18:17.500 --> 00:18:18.660 Oh, fun. 00:18:19.160 --> 00:18:22.180 That was, it was, it was amazing. 00:18:24.130 --> 00:18:24.470 That sounds 00:18:24.470 --> 00:18:25.779 like a good show to see. 00:18:26.220 --> 00:18:27.789 Oh yeah, most definitely. 00:18:27.890 --> 00:18:35.519 Uh, we had, you know, certain expectations and that type of stuff in my mind and his performance, we were. 00:18:35.815 --> 00:18:38.055 Yeah, it far surpasses the case. 00:18:38.684 --> 00:18:39.494 I'm so sorry. 00:18:39.494 --> 00:18:41.144 I know we're going to miss somebody. 00:18:41.744 --> 00:18:43.265 I just apologize in advance. 00:18:43.525 --> 00:18:44.954 We had a contortionist. 00:18:45.559 --> 00:18:47.789 Yes, we had, um, fire tire, 00:18:47.880 --> 00:18:48.619 fire tiger. 00:18:48.779 --> 00:18:50.529 She was a contortionist. 00:18:50.740 --> 00:18:53.640 Um, and then we had, 00:18:53.829 --> 00:19:00.160 uh, I mean, it was so many. 00:19:00.250 --> 00:19:01.039 It was so, 00:19:01.250 --> 00:19:07.839 I mean, I would probably

say that if, if anybody needs to, like, wants to look at the whole list, is there a place where they could go to you? 00:19:07.839 --> 00:19:08.170 Yes. 00:19:08.200 --> 00:19:13.039 You can go to, uh, and it has all the performers. 00:19:13.049 --> 00:19:15.460 It also has all the vendors that we had. 00:19:15.529 --> 00:19:19.690 Also on Instagram, DJs that was there. 00:19:19.779 --> 00:19:24.740 Um, and then also, as you said, uh, was it bad 00:19:24.740 --> 00:19:27.410 evolution on Instagram? 00:19:28.490 --> 00:19:28.859 Oh yeah. 00:19:28.859 --> 00:19:32.349 We will be tagging all of this stuff for, for everyone listening to this. 00:19:32.390 --> 00:19:33.180 So don't worry. 00:19:33.579 --> 00:19:38.519 Yeah, we will be tagging your website, your Instagram page, everything that you give us, we will tag within this. 00:19:38.529 --> 00:19:42.500 So everyone hearing can head over to y'all's page to see y'all stuff. 00:19:43.200 --> 00:19:43.549 Absolutely. 00:19:43.819 --> 00:19:44.359 Always. 00:19:44.369 --> 00:19:45.190 Yeah, that would be great. 00:19:45.190 --> 00:19:46.039 Thank you so much. 00:19:46.289 --> 00:19:53.849 So, then, in terms of, of Fed Evolution and the, the trajectory that it has, where do you guys hope to see this? 00:19:56.105 --> 00:19:57.954 Where do we hope to see it headed? 00:19:58.214 --> 00:20:20.005 We hope to see it headed to doing a minimum of at least three productions a year with one of them being a major production, which tentatively we're looking at scheduling our next major production for on or around. 00:20:21.825 --> 00:20:28.785 April 19th, 20th around there to kind of make it a yearly thing about the same time every year. 00:20:28.785 --> 00:20:43.884 And then we're looking at doing a couple of like the rest of this year, we're looking at doing a couple of more intimate, uh, 100, 150 attendee. 00:20:45.200 --> 00:20:51.190 Uh, a little bit different, not say thing, but a little bit different approach to the fetish thing. 00:20:51.690 --> 00:21:00.079 Um, maybe touching on a voyeur kink or touching on a, uh, what? 00:21:00.474 --> 00:21:04.662 Um, foot fetish, foot fetish kink or a temperature, kind 00:21:04.662 --> 00:21:06.121 of being just 00:21:06.121 --> 00:21:24.605 as inclusive as we are as in the, with our events in our productions, also be inclusive with the different types of productions that we do and give, try and give each aspect of the, of the kink. 00:21:25.724 --> 00:21:32.875 King nation per se, you know, a little, a nod to the foot fetish, a nod to the temperature play, so on and so forth. 00:21:34.384 --> 00:21:34.625 Yeah. 00:21:34.654 --> 00:21:44.595 As producers, we, we definitely saw that there is a need for a need for a platform for artists as well. 00:21:44.805 --> 00:21:57.325 I mean, not only for the community, but a lot of the artists don't have the platform to create, um, these new types of talent or express their talent. 00:21:58.605 --> 00:22:03.515 So that's the other thing is we wanted to provide that for local artists as well. 00:22:03.775 --> 00:22:04.025 Yeah. 00:22:04.025 --> 00:22:05.904 Give them an opportunity to display. 00:22:05.934 --> 00:22:09.404 I mean, these artists, these performers work so hard. 00:22:09.615 --> 00:22:10.365 Okay. 00:22:10.434 --> 00:22:20.815 Um, putting these acts together and presently right now, there's a very, very limited, you know, outlet for them to turn around and display those acts. 00:22:21.180 --> 00:22:22.759 And you know, we want to 00:22:23.529 --> 00:22:28.829 so many of the artists for like, thank you so much for allowing me to do this performance. 00:22:28.829 --> 00:22:31.119 I've had this performance in my head for a while. 00:22:32.049 --> 00:22:53.329 So, so giving that next or giving that additional outlet and, um, It's definitely valuable to the community and to the performers themselves, but also giving them the opportunity or putting it in the mindset to sit there and go, you know what, I haven't ever done a foot fetish act. 00:22:53.630 --> 00:22:54.910 I wonder if I could. 00:22:55.759 --> 00:22:56.240 Okay. 00:22:56.240 --> 00:23:08.440 Cause now I have a place and opportunity or somebody that I could go to that does events and goes, Hey, look, are y'all looking at doing some type of event here where I might be able to work on this performance. 00:23:08.829 --> 00:23:10.670 And have some place to perform it. 00:23:11.069 --> 00:23:11.299 Okay. 00:23:12.000 --> 00:23:19.029 So if I'm, if I hear that correctly, it sounds like y'all are trying to give a, an open platform for people to experiment with their performances. 00:23:19.289 --> 00:23:19.559 Yeah. 00:23:19.559 --> 00:23:30.140 If they're limited to certain type of performance that they can come to you and say, listen, I know that I've done performance a, I'd really like to try out, like you're saying, maybe a foot performance or something different. 00:23:30.140 --> 00:23:31.170 And you're able to go great. 00:23:31.474 --> 00:23:31.914 Bring it on. 00:23:31.914 --> 00:23:34.315 Let's see what you have and clear it for, for the show. 00:23:34.454 --> 00:23:53.275 I mean, I like the idea of what you're saying though, and having these like many events that are like aimed event, almost like this event, we're going to be honoring, you know, temperature played exclusively and then having performers come out that do heat play performances and education on it. 00:23:53.305 --> 00:23:54.285 I mean, honestly, that's. 00:23:55.049 --> 00:24:06.849 That could be pretty darn cool to do something like that, because I feel like a lot of these events that we've heard of, it's this big production, which is great, but I've not heard of little like micro productions before. 00:24:06.880 --> 00:24:07.920 That would be really cool. 00:24:08.875 --> 00:24:15.634 One of the things that we're working on right now is an individual that has a hot wax performance. 00:24:17.164 --> 00:24:24.375 And we're also

toying with another idea that, um, we actually have somebody. 00:24:24.625 --> 00:24:28.595 That we have communicated with that does this type of thing. 00:24:28.625 --> 00:24:31.904 And that's going to be the, uh, what is it? 00:24:31.964 --> 00:24:40.345 The hook fetish where you, um, you hook do hooks into, uh, into your skin and you suspend from the hooks. 00:24:42.605 --> 00:24:42.815 Yeah. 00:24:42.815 --> 00:24:42.934 Yeah. 00:24:43.075 --> 00:24:43.914 Skin suspension. 00:24:43.954 --> 00:24:44.865 Uh, I just drew a blank. 00:24:45.634 --> 00:24:53.194 Um, so yeah, we're actually looking at incorporating, um, a couple of those performances into. 00:24:53.575 --> 00:24:57.085 So many events that we're in discussion on. 00:24:58.355 --> 00:24:59.115 Well, that's really cool. 00:24:59.115 --> 00:25:02.805 You know, I mean, some of the events that we've seen around, it's funny that you mentioned wax play. 00:25:02.805 --> 00:25:12.575 That's what we, uh, a big one that we went to in Dallas in fall of last year where they had a stage set up and a big wheel that you spun and pure got wax play. 00:25:12.845 --> 00:25:22.894 And so there was a couple of, a couple of people that just sat her down and just started pouring wax for about 10 minutes in front of a crowd of about 150, 200 people. 00:25:23.839 --> 00:25:29.880 I had wax in places for a few days after that, I was like, how am I still finding wax on me? 00:25:30.720 --> 00:25:34.180 Like, that's a whole different aftercare right there. 00:25:34.869 --> 00:25:37.910 That was so, yeah, I was at the event too. 00:25:37.910 --> 00:25:40.259 Afterward, I learned, I just had wax all over me. 00:25:40.650 --> 00:25:41.480 It was fun though. 00:25:41.650 --> 00:25:42.069 It was, it 00:25:42.079 --> 00:25:42.380 was really 00:25:42.380 --> 00:25:42.509 fun. 00:25:42.509 --> 00:25:44.740 But it's great for those people listening that are like, you know, what are you. 00:25:45.115 --> 00:25:46.484 It was like wax play or something. 00:25:46.494 --> 00:25:52.724 It can be such a really cool spectacle to see and can be a really, uh, erotic thing to participate in 00:25:52.734 --> 00:25:56.535 because I had no idea I was interested in wax play until I got to experience it. 00:25:56.875 --> 00:25:57.444 Absolutely. 00:25:57.484 --> 00:25:58.394 Absolutely. 00:25:58.414 --> 00:25:59.184 Let's see what about exhibitionism? 00:26:00.515 --> 00:26:02.015 As event producers. 00:26:02.045 --> 00:26:02.505 Okay. 00:26:02.505 --> 00:26:11.954 We want, we want to do these types of productions or these little micro events or whatever to give the community the opportunity to not only. 00:26:12.434 --> 00:26:24.325 see what else is out there, but also give them the opportunity in a safe environment where they could learn more about it, where they could possibly even experience it. 00:26:24.855 --> 00:26:35.674 Um, and, uh, grow not only with themselves, okay, but with other people in the event, okay. 00:26:35.674 --> 00:26:50.525 Cause there's a lot of folks that don't even know, or ever even been exposed to, you know, a type of wax play or a type of foot fetish and bringing awareness to this and including in some of our more smaller event, more intimate events. 00:26:51.944 --> 00:26:55.664 Facilitates opportunities for individuals to connect and explore. 00:26:55.934 --> 00:26:56.654 Absolutely. 00:26:57.295 --> 00:26:57.714 Okay. 00:26:57.924 --> 00:26:58.964 Well, I love that. 00:26:58.974 --> 00:27:01.684 I want to see somebody like dipped in their whole body, dipped in wax. 00:27:02.174 --> 00:27:05.204 Let them just like dry over the course of two hours, 00:27:06.394 --> 00:27:06.694 you know, 00:27:09.240 --> 00:27:11.960 We might put that on the agenda for later this year. 00:27:11.970 --> 00:27:13.119 If you'd be the one to get it, 00:27:14.119 --> 00:27:19.230 my claustrophobia would not handle can 00:27:20.230 --> 00:27:21.569 barely be in a sleeping bag. 00:27:21.599 --> 00:27:22.119 Much less 00:27:23.119 --> 00:27:24.660 we're different here today, 00:27:26.130 --> 00:27:28.970 but people in positions just dip them in a whole vat of. 00:27:29.230 --> 00:27:30.740 I actually just let them dry like that. 00:27:31.079 --> 00:27:31.640 Oh yeah. 00:27:31.640 --> 00:27:32.470 That'll be awesome. 00:27:32.569 --> 00:27:39.849 We're creating events whenever y'all looking for a place to have a host an event like this, what are some of the things that you look for? 00:27:41.319 --> 00:27:42.970 Cause you can't just do this anywhere 00:27:43.549 --> 00:27:44.390 anchor point. 00:27:45.970 --> 00:27:46.670 Oh my God. 00:27:46.680 --> 00:27:47.160 Right. 00:27:47.369 --> 00:27:49.900 Yeah, that's a good point. 00:27:51.200 --> 00:27:52.809 This is so funny. 00:27:52.890 --> 00:28:05.730 I mean, you know, a lot of folks go into like a restaurant or to a bar or something like that and like, Oh, this is a nice ambiance, you know, I love the colors and motif her and I are looking at the ceiling going for something we can tie on to. 00:28:06.000 --> 00:28:06.319 Yep. 00:28:07.789 --> 00:28:09.339 That, and there's so many, 00:28:09.339 --> 00:28:12.119 I mean, we got turned away how many times? 00:28:12.160 --> 00:28:13.160 It's unbelievable. 00:28:13.200 --> 00:28:13.420 Oh, 00:28:13.420 --> 00:28:13.900 yes. 00:28:14.640 --> 00:28:19.900 Because people think like, we're literally just getting in a pile and just screwing each other. 00:28:19.950 --> 00:28:20.230 Like, 00:28:21.259 --> 00:28:23.180 I don't Why is that always what they assume? 00:28:23.269 --> 00:28:25.750 It is, we rarely do that. 00:28:26.799 --> 00:28:27.579 Very rarely. 00:28:27.940 --> 00:28:29.930 It's like, there's no penetration going on. 00:28:30.214 --> 00:28:36.625 But for some reason everybody, you know, when you say fetish evolution, it's like, Oh, you're just going to have sex with each other all over my venue. 00:28:36.634 --> 00:28:38.017 It's like, no, that's 00:28:38.017 -->

00:28:40.343 not what we do. 00:28:40.343 --> 00:28:42.474 That's reserved for Friday. 00:28:43.694 --> 00:28:43.934 We don't 00:28:43.954 --> 00:28:45.184 do that on Tuesday. 00:28:46.575 --> 00:28:47.434 Yeah, there's, there's 00:28:47.434 --> 00:28:47.605 a lot. 00:28:47.605 --> 00:28:48.894 But y'all do have some venues. 00:28:49.200 --> 00:28:52.720 I'm sorry, but y'all know that do turn y'all away there. 00:28:52.869 --> 00:28:55.539 There'll be like, no, this isn't going to be a thing for us 00:28:55.880 --> 00:28:58.140 a lot, a lot more than what 00:28:58.140 --> 00:28:58.740 you would think. 00:28:58.769 --> 00:28:59.680 Definitely. 00:28:59.740 --> 00:29:01.970 Um, well, her and I like to call it. 00:29:01.970 --> 00:29:04.180 They try to make money with remorse and values. 00:29:04.615 --> 00:29:18.535 Um, and so which I get it, there has to, you know, there's going to have to be an opening or a place for, you know, all the different, um, types of events that go on and stuff, but there, and it is, it is Texas. 00:29:18.535 --> 00:29:19.066 So we 00:29:19.066 --> 00:29:24.664 talked about how, you know, it's more accepted now than it was, you know, back when we started, but it. 00:29:24.894 --> 00:29:29.484 Also, I mean, the other side of that coin is that it's not so much as you would think. 00:29:29.654 --> 00:29:35.115 No, it's not because the ones that are going, Oh, no, we can't do this is family orientated. 00:29:35.555 --> 00:29:41.825 Are the same ones that, you know, you might see at one of our events, which that's perfectly fine. 00:29:42.365 --> 00:29:42.795 Okay. 00:29:42.795 --> 00:29:44.164 We, we include everybody. 00:29:45.974 --> 00:29:53.244 Well, so is there, whenever y'all do find a venue and you go to that, is there like special permitting that you have to go through, like special red tape? 00:29:53.255 --> 00:29:56.464 You have to try to get around to just to even have these events in the first place. 00:29:57.099 --> 00:30:00.440 Um, it depends, I think, on the city ordinances. 00:30:00.619 --> 00:30:14.359 Um, we have just recently came across another venue that, um, outside of city limits, the city that we're looking at is doesn't allow that within certain bounds. 00:30:14.500 --> 00:30:19.980 So we are going to have to be outside, but this event does include penetration. 00:30:20.240 --> 00:30:23.079 So I think that that's 1 of the biggest. 00:30:23.174 --> 00:30:27.095 I don't know taboos, I guess out there 00:30:27.605 --> 00:30:39.484 as far as far as the city officials, the, the, the event, um, department C, Dallas has like a whole entire apartment that's dedicated specifically to special events. 00:30:39.694 --> 00:30:46.944 Um, a lot of people don't know that you technically in order to be legal, you actually have to be. 00:30:47.244 --> 00:30:54.214 A licensed, um, event promoter or producer with the city of Dallas in order to promote an event. 00:30:54.795 --> 00:31:01.464 So, uh, yeah, you have to, you've got to look at the ordinances. 00:31:01.515 --> 00:31:07.515 And I mean, I spent a lot of time looking at the city of Dallas is a book of especially events. 00:31:07.984 --> 00:31:13.494 Cause I mean, it covers everything from parking to, you know, alcohol, that type of stuff. 00:31:13.505 --> 00:31:16.134 So there, there's a lot involved. 00:31:16.134 --> 00:31:20.285 It's not just, Hey, look, that's a cool building in there. 00:31:20.285 --> 00:31:22.765 Call the DJ don't work like that. 00:31:22.865 --> 00:31:23.525 Yeah, absolutely. 00:31:24.315 --> 00:31:26.545 That's something that we have experienced with as well. 00:31:26.545 --> 00:31:30.285 And I know that, I mean, it would come down to it being that it would be a sexually oriented person. 00:31:31.214 --> 00:31:39.424 So a sexually oriented event, and then there's a whole nother special book centered around like anything to do with that and they come down hard. 00:31:39.434 --> 00:31:39.595 Yeah, 00:31:39.595 --> 00:31:42.035 I mean, what do you tell your insurance company what you do? 00:31:42.085 --> 00:31:47.265 You know, well, so we, um, uh, 00:31:48.565 --> 00:31:51.845 yeah, I mean, it can definitely be very, very challenging. 00:31:51.845 --> 00:31:53.174 I mean, just to ask Pornhub. 00:31:53.255 --> 00:31:53.805 I mean, Hey. 00:31:56.220 --> 00:31:57.630 Sorry to see them go from Texas. 00:31:57.789 --> 00:31:58.829 Yeah, no doubt. 00:31:59.230 --> 00:32:03.980 Um, but it's, it can be done and you're right. 00:32:03.990 --> 00:32:13.160 Texas does have some challenging, um, rules and regulations or whatever, but it's, it's really not that difficult to navigate. 00:32:13.190 --> 00:32:15.900 You just have to be cognitive and aware of. 00:32:16.615 --> 00:32:19.555 And like my wife says, no, he's half the battle. 00:32:19.964 --> 00:32:24.775 So, uh, if you know what the problem is, the solution is just around. 00:32:25.775 --> 00:32:26.755 I know how to word it. 00:32:26.875 --> 00:32:27.164 Yeah. 00:32:27.244 --> 00:32:28.234 Know how to verbalize it. 00:32:28.424 --> 00:32:29.204 That's what I was going to say. 00:32:29.204 --> 00:32:29.394 I 00:32:29.404 --> 00:32:31.734 guarantee it has to be an all in just how you word things. 00:32:33.954 --> 00:32:38.924 And then once you learn it, once you get past that, I would imagine it kind of is just a lot of work to put in to get there. 00:32:39.315 --> 00:32:42.984 And then for them on events can become a little bit easier to plan. 00:32:43.424 --> 00:32:48.315 Oh, yeah, you would think like, yeah, definitely, definitely. 00:32:49.194 --> 00:32:53.184 Um, well, what are the challenges with the event or the approaches that we're taking? 00:32:53.285 --> 00:32:57.734 I mean, could we put another FedEx evolution together? 00:32:57.765 --> 00:33:00.250 Yeah, we can have one ready to go in probably 60 days. 00:33:01.259 --> 00:33:06.509 But where our challenge is, will we do another fetish evolution? 00:33:06.650 -->

00:33:07.200 Yeah, we will. 00:33:07.200 --> 00:33:08.549 But that's April of next year. 00:33:08.710 --> 00:33:09.289 Okay. 00:33:09.359 --> 00:33:12.089 So let's do a different event. 00:33:12.839 --> 00:33:15.839 So it's almost like starting all over again. 00:33:16.339 --> 00:33:18.109 Cause you need different performers. 00:33:18.109 --> 00:33:20.250 You're going to need different types of vendors. 00:33:20.259 --> 00:33:21.005 You're going to need. 00:33:21.335 --> 00:33:23.055 You know, a different type of DJ. 00:33:23.365 --> 00:33:23.914 Okay. 00:33:24.204 --> 00:33:27.464 Maybe even a different type of an MC or even what I haven't seen. 00:33:28.494 --> 00:33:31.414 Are you telling me that you're not stripping DJing up there? 00:33:31.505 --> 00:33:33.045 H each time. 00:33:33.045 --> 00:33:36.055 That's just, we need to see it. 00:33:36.384 --> 00:33:36.664 I know 00:33:37.285 --> 00:33:47.744 I'll see if I can find a DJ that, you know, um, doesn't have a problem with, you know, being at least in a banana catcher, you know, 00:33:48.289 --> 00:33:49.640 Well, are you that dj? 00:33:50.210 --> 00:33:52.039 Uh, not dj. 00:33:52.369 --> 00:34:00.289 When I DJ it was actually had like a chaos pad and actually had, you know, turntables, they do stuff with computers now though. 00:34:00.589 --> 00:34:04.059 And we were, I mean, we were just running around like mm-Hmm. 00:34:04.329 --> 00:34:05.349 crazy people. 00:34:05.440 --> 00:34:07.775 Um, I imagine four 20 mm-Hmm. 00:34:07.875 --> 00:34:15.510 So I could, I, I honestly don't remember half of the night, and it's not because I was intoxicated, because I didn't even drink. 00:34:15.780 --> 00:34:19.909 It was because I was just going like a hundred miles an hour. 00:34:19.980 --> 00:34:20.349 Yeah. 00:34:20.440 --> 00:34:27.199 I mean, it was from the latex labs to the vendor up to the show, not to look at the show, but make sure everything's okay. 00:34:27.199 --> 00:34:33.480 And then turn right back down to, you know, over to the door to, yeah, it was. 00:34:33.880 --> 00:34:46.760 I think maybe her and I actually sat down together for like 25, maybe 30 minutes and watched a portion of one performance. 00:34:47.864 --> 00:34:49.264 And that was it. 00:34:49.965 --> 00:34:53.184 I waved at her a couple of times when I passed her in the hallway the entire night. 00:34:55.875 --> 00:34:56.864 Yeah, that's it. 00:34:56.864 --> 00:35:02.914 Look, I've been in the same place before with going and running behind the scenes of events where you don't really catch much of anything. 00:35:02.925 --> 00:35:11.264 You spend all your time making sure everyone's happy, making sure things are flowing, make sure that like any officials that are there are getting what they need and get the hell out. 00:35:11.885 --> 00:35:13.664 Yes, definitely. 00:35:13.755 --> 00:35:14.505 And. 00:35:15.065 --> 00:35:15.485 Wow. 00:35:15.505 --> 00:35:23.505 We was actually wanting to incorporate a fire, a fire performance and that that's a whole nother 00:35:23.905 --> 00:35:25.764 say fire marshal on that one's got to be, 00:35:27.594 --> 00:35:39.344 so, uh, yeah, I can only imagine how things would have been if we'd had the city of Dallas on set with the fire marshal and everything else, in addition to everything that we was having going. 00:35:40.014 --> 00:35:40.675 You know, fire 00:35:40.675 --> 00:35:41.324 marshal would be. 00:35:42.655 --> 00:35:47.275 Briefing of your event later, be like, okay, so here's what I 00:35:47.275 --> 00:35:48.304 saw. 00:35:48.304 --> 00:35:55.695 Now, what would happen is the firefighters would just be there and saying that like, well, Oh no, we're here just in case it's just because we need to be here. 00:35:57.454 --> 00:35:58.155 Sign up sheet. 00:35:58.605 --> 00:35:58.965 Exactly. 00:36:00.235 --> 00:36:02.425 That, that was a little hint right there. 00:36:02.454 --> 00:36:06.045 Cause, uh, we are actually discussing a. 00:36:06.514 --> 00:36:13.784 Fire and ice temperature play event is kind of on the table top right now for particularly later on in the year. 00:36:14.905 --> 00:36:15.514 That sounds like 00:36:15.514 --> 00:36:15.855 fun. 00:36:15.875 --> 00:36:16.844 That would be cool to see. 00:36:18.855 --> 00:36:20.114 Yeah, definitely. 00:36:20.264 --> 00:36:25.344 I mean, performances online of people doing fire play and some of the stuff they can do. 00:36:26.110 --> 00:36:34.679 Any things like actually using, uh, some of the, the foam or oils on skin that you can light all the way to like fire twirling and performances could be really, really cool to see. 00:36:35.630 --> 00:36:39.030 Butane bubbles is another aspect of it that we wanted to bring in. 00:36:39.030 --> 00:36:43.070 We have a few people we follow that do the butane bubbles. 00:36:43.739 --> 00:36:48.949 Well, our, uh, artistic director actually has a shibari. 00:36:50.320 --> 00:36:55.670 Um, actor performance that she's really, really dying and wanting to do. 00:36:55.789 --> 00:36:58.030 And the person that she. 00:36:58.385 --> 00:37:02.465 Uh, her rope bottom towards the end of the performance. 00:37:02.474 --> 00:37:05.195 She actually uses the butane approach and sets them up. 00:37:06.715 --> 00:37:07.094 That's cool. 00:37:07.965 --> 00:37:09.025 That just sounds like a fun event. 00:37:09.554 --> 00:37:10.344 Sign us up for that one. 00:37:10.344 --> 00:37:11.275 We will 00:37:11.275 --> 00:37:12.204 be there. 00:37:12.204 --> 00:37:13.134 It may, 00:37:13.134 --> 00:37:13.599 it 00:37:13.599 --> 00:37:17.782 may not, you know, actually come about this year. 00:37:17.782 --> 00:37:21.500 It may be something that we have to. 00:37:21.820 --> 00:37:26.500 You know, push off to next year cause there's, there's a lot of working parts with that one. 00:37:26.579 --> 00:37:26.940 Yeah. 00:37:26.949 --> 00:37:27.449 So, 00:37:27.530 --> 00:37:33.300 uh, but it's definitely something on the tabletop we're discussing and bring on

artistic director. 00:37:33.300 --> 00:37:35.369 She's not going to let that one die. 00:37:35.369 --> 00:37:38.159 She's she's going to good until she gets that. 00:37:38.769 --> 00:37:43.139 Well, Brianna, when you listen to this, keep it going, don't ever let it go and make it happen. 00:37:44.139 --> 00:37:57.809 Well, I mean, and we also know a gentleman that's opening up a facility in Norfolk worth, maybe it'd be something just to put y'all two in connection, but he is, it's a Shabari studio, but he is hoping to. 00:37:58.030 --> 00:38:00.599 Creative events, host events and doing stuff. 00:38:00.599 --> 00:38:04.730 And we actually went and saw him the other day and the space is amazing. 00:38:04.739 --> 00:38:06.199 It's absolutely amazing. 00:38:07.780 --> 00:38:09.730 There's so much, they're doing a stage. 00:38:09.980 --> 00:38:12.480 So there's going to be areas for on the stage. 00:38:12.480 --> 00:38:15.929 There's going to be areas for like seating and hanging out. 00:38:15.940 --> 00:38:17.480 He's creating a quiet space. 00:38:17.880 --> 00:38:22.449 So if individuals want to go and kind of like separate out and just talk and get away from everything. 00:38:22.780 --> 00:38:25.809 Um, and I, I believe it's also outside city limits. 00:38:25.809 --> 00:38:25.849 Yeah. 00:38:26.159 --> 00:38:28.469 So it could be something that I'm like, how 00:38:28.469 --> 00:38:29.380 much are we allowed to sit? 00:38:29.380 --> 00:38:31.110 I know, but it could 00:38:31.110 --> 00:38:34.829 be just to maybe away from this, make that connection. 00:38:35.699 --> 00:38:38.309 And then maybe, you know, something can work out for y'all. 00:38:38.309 --> 00:38:45.940 But, and that was one of the reasons why I asked, cause we, we spoke with him about how difficult it was to get a space going and yeah, it's not easy. 00:38:45.960 --> 00:38:46.969 It is not easy. 00:38:46.969 --> 00:38:50.460 And, and again, if our episodes about community and trying to build that up. 00:38:51.025 --> 00:38:54.534 Like, maybe that'll be a great connection for, for y'all, you know, 00:38:55.264 --> 00:39:00.744 we would definitely be able to, I mean, please, uh, strongly encourage shoot us an email, um, 00:39:01.394 --> 00:39:03.425 or at least give that 00:39:03.445 --> 00:39:07.815 individual our contact and say, Hey, look, get back with them. 00:39:07.815 --> 00:39:09.625 They're looking forward to talking with you. 00:39:09.655 --> 00:39:09.994 Um, 00:39:09.994 --> 00:39:10.985 yeah, we're always open to 00:39:10.985 --> 00:39:11.375 class. 00:39:11.405 --> 00:39:11.664 Yeah. 00:39:11.664 --> 00:39:13.454 Most definitely collaborations. 00:39:13.704 --> 00:39:16.445 One of our goals is to eventually get a venue. 00:39:16.545 --> 00:39:16.914 Yes. 00:39:17.514 --> 00:39:25.085 Right now, because we're just starting, we're kind of having to look for more creative types of venues. 00:39:25.355 --> 00:39:25.724 Yeah. 00:39:25.744 --> 00:39:28.485 Um, but that is one of

our goals as well. 00:39:28.780 --> 00:39:31.650 To actually have our own fricking one of that. 00:39:31.809 --> 00:39:32.309 Yes. 00:39:32.389 --> 00:39:50.190 Um, I remember there is, we would like to, and we actually, even in the beginning, um, we decided, or we determined that we wanted to be able to utilize and produce our productions all over the Metroplex. 00:39:50.309 --> 00:39:57.710 We did not want to be limited to just, you know, deep L or to Dallas, which there's a strong community based on misunderstanding. 00:39:57.710 --> 00:39:57.780 Damn it. 00:39:58.820 --> 00:40:08.829 We'll always be doing productions and stuff in develop, um, in, in that Dallas area, but we also would like to come to Fort Worth. 00:40:08.900 --> 00:40:10.570 We would love to bring stuff to Fort Worth. 00:40:10.570 --> 00:40:12.469 Cause there is a lot of people over here. 00:40:12.730 --> 00:40:17.190 There is a large community base over here in Fort Worth. 00:40:17.969 --> 00:40:26.869 We would like to expose ourselves to them and give them the opportunity for that same inclusiveness for that same safe space. 00:40:27.030 --> 00:40:33.400 To be able to experience and explore their keys is what we provided to Dallas. 00:40:35.099 --> 00:40:35.670 I like it. 00:40:36.570 --> 00:40:37.039 Oh, shoot. 00:40:37.050 --> 00:40:38.380 I mean, this has been a great interview. 00:40:38.710 --> 00:40:40.460 We really appreciate you guys for coming on. 00:40:40.769 --> 00:40:47.130 So if people want to get in touch with you, they require about being a performer or attending one of your events. 00:40:47.570 --> 00:40:49.199 Um, how, how do they find you guys? 00:40:50.239 --> 00:40:54.269 Definitely, um, you can reach out to us. 00:40:54.269 --> 00:40:56.309 Our email is right on the website. 00:40:56.360 --> 00:41:01.744 Um, There's opportunities to volunteer, um, for performers. 00:41:01.744 --> 00:41:03.875 Like you can sign up right on the website. 00:41:04.474 --> 00:41:04.784 Yeah. 00:41:04.905 --> 00:41:12.065 Also go to, uh, that evolution at Instagram and you can message us direct right there. 00:41:12.394 --> 00:41:21.195 And, uh, we actually communicated with some of the performers, a lot of the performers in preparation for the event. 00:41:21.315 --> 00:41:22.315 Um, they was. 00:41:22.599 --> 00:41:30.900 Promoting us and stuff on their instagrams and tagging us and we was communicating back and forth with those types of issues. 00:41:30.969 --> 00:41:40.440 Um, they actually sent some of their performances directly to our instagram and we kind of got an idea of what they was capable of doing, kind of what they was bringing to the table. 00:41:40.440 --> 00:41:43.130 So yeah, the website and the instagram bottle. 00:41:43.289 --> 00:41:45.059 Awesome. 00:41:46.039 --> 00:41:47.739 And I'm assuming same thing with vendors. 00:41:47.739 --> 00:41:56.539 If they are looking to a place to, to kind of push some of their products and things, they can sign up as vendors with you guys for your events and set up a table and do as they are 00:41:57.010 --> 00:41:57.880 most definitely. 00:41:57.929 --> 00:42:01.849 Um, we are our baseline. 00:42:01.889 --> 00:42:08.514 Um, we actually, uh, When we got to Dallas and stuff, we actually started in the vendor base. 00:42:08.534 --> 00:42:14.335 We, uh, we do the outdoor market at, um, deep Ellen on a regular basis. 00:42:14.335 --> 00:42:15.295 We do Bishop art. 00:42:15.295 --> 00:42:18.885 So bending is definitely something we're no stranger to. 00:42:19.264 --> 00:42:24.554 And as being vendors and actually producing our own vendor events. 00:42:25.480 --> 00:42:39.695 I love to have the opportunity to get back to give back to other vendors and stuff and provide them the space and the platform to sell their products as long as it, you know, Fish and it goes in line with the fetish and kink. 00:42:39.860 --> 00:42:42.980 The fetish and kink and the type of event that we're doing at the time. 00:42:44.559 --> 00:42:46.389 Well, we, we appreciate you guys. 00:42:46.429 --> 00:42:47.210 Irish Johnny. 00:42:47.250 --> 00:42:48.469 Thank y'all so much. 00:42:48.469 --> 00:42:51.170 And thank you for, for creating this, this evolution. 00:42:51.344 --> 00:42:58.405 This thing that you guys have in mind, um, we encourage anybody that needs to like reach out to these guys, as they said, that evo. 00:42:58.445 --> 00:43:01.074 com we still find them on Instagram at evolution. 00:43:01.344 --> 00:43:05.695 You can find all of their links, um, in the, in the notes below. 00:43:05.985 --> 00:43:08.625 So for another episode of come with Casey, we're your hosts. 00:43:08.625 --> 00:43:09.054 I'm Dr. 00:43:09.054 --> 00:43:09.905 Casey Sanders 00:43:09.954 --> 00:43:11.034 and I'm Carrie Sanders. 00:43:11.074 --> 00:43:11.195 We'll 00:43:11.195 --> 00:43:11.894 see y'all next time.