Full Transcript for MORGAN JAY

00:03:47.039 --> 00:03:49.039 Man, I feel like I'm holding this Apple Watch. 00:03:50.240 --> 00:03:54.000 I uh I only this was the first nice thing I bought for myself when things started going well. 00:03:55.439 --> 00:03:55.840 That's what it was. 00:03:56.000 --> 00:03:56.400 That's what it was. 00:03:57.120 --> 00:03:59.039 Man, we got so much to discuss, man. 00:03:59.280 --> 00:04:00.800 Um you want to kick off with it? 00:04:01.439 --> 00:04:02.240 Well, you know, it's so funny. 00:04:02.319 --> 00:04:07.680 I so I haven't looked up, I kind of have an idea, but I did want to, we'd like to kick off with the beginning beginning. 00:04:07.759 --> 00:04:11.599 But I did I was interested in knowing like what exactly is your ethnicity? 00:04:11.759 --> 00:04:12.639 Uh I'm Brazilian. 00:04:12.879 --> 00:04:13.280 Brazilian? 00:04:13.759 --> 00:04:16.959 My uh my mom was born in Brazil and my dad was born in Sicily. 00:04:18.319 --> 00:04:18.560 Wow. 00:04:18.879 --> 00:04:20.399 So you speak some other languages? 00:04:20.560 --> 00:04:21.920 I speak Portuguese and Spanish. 00:04:22.079 --> 00:04:22.720 Don't show off. 00:04:23.920 --> 00:04:24.240 I get it. 00:04:24.480 --> 00:04:28.639 As a matter of fact, when I went to Brazil, I did four shows there in different cities. 00:04:28.800 --> 00:04:30.000 I did half the show in Portuguese. 00:04:30.240 --> 00:04:31.120 I was just for the eggs. 00:04:31.920 --> 00:04:32.240 Half the show. 00:04:32.720 --> 00:04:34.879 I'm the only only comic who's done that from America. 00:04:35.759 --> 00:04:36.240 That's nice. 00:04:36.399 --> 00:04:40.560 Because normally they come to they come here, they do it in English, and I was like, no, no, no, I'm gonna go there. 00:04:40.800 --> 00:04:41.759 And it was great, man. 00:04:41.839 --> 00:04:42.399 It went really well. 00:04:42.560 --> 00:04:44.240 They I did the tonight show there. 00:04:44.480 --> 00:04:44.639 Really? 00:04:44.959 --> 00:04:46.000 I haven't done the tonight show here. 00:04:46.079 --> 00:04:47.839 They put me on the tonight show in Brazil. 00:04:48.079 --> 00:04:49.839 They were so wait, Portuguese. 00:04:50.480 --> 00:04:51.199 Hold on, hold on. 00:04:51.519 --> 00:04:51.839 Go ahead. 00:04:52.079 --> 00:04:53.439 We gotta talk about the tonight show. 00:04:53.680 --> 00:04:54.639 Did you submit a tape? 00:04:54.800 --> 00:04:59.199 And they said, I submitted a tape many, many, many, many years ago, and they said no. 00:04:59.279 --> 00:04:59.439 Yeah. 00:04:59.519 --> 00:04:59.600 Yeah. 00:04:59.839 --> 00:05:01.920 This is that early on before I was doing the auto-tune stuff. 00:05:02.000 --> 00:05:02.800 I was just doing guitar stuff. 00:05:02.959 --> 00:05:05.040 How was how was the no, though? 00:05:05.279 --> 00:05:20.720 Um, I don't want from what I recall, I'm not gonna name names, but my rep said they would never have a musical comedian on that did something similar to Jimmy, because he does guitar stuff, and I did guitar stuff.

00:05:21.199 --> 00:05:24.079 So that that's what I had, that's what I was told. 00:05:24.319 --> 00:05:26.639 And also the my songs were a little bit longer. 00:05:26.720 --> 00:05:28.879 Like I understand it's a different type of format. 00:05:29.120 --> 00:05:30.639 You know, it's all good. 00:05:30.879 --> 00:05:36.079 Look at look at we got we we the reason I'm asking this because uh of course we gotta get into this. 00:05:36.240 --> 00:05:37.839 But they turned me down too, so f I'm gonna be able to do that. 00:05:37.920 --> 00:05:39.519 I mean, look, I wait a minute. 00:05:39.759 --> 00:05:44.480 I have I have done zero major TV appearances, aside from like I did Bring the Funny. 00:05:44.720 --> 00:05:45.360 Bring the Funny, yeah. 00:05:45.600 --> 00:05:52.000 Which was you know, it was cool, but I it didn't have the same kind of you know, your reps are like, this gonna this gonna be the game changer. 00:05:52.160 --> 00:05:53.040 It's not funny AF. 00:05:53.199 --> 00:05:53.920 It's not funny AF. 00:05:54.160 --> 00:05:55.519 Bring the Funny or was not funny AF. 00:05:55.680 --> 00:05:56.399 It was not the same. 00:05:56.560 --> 00:06:00.800 But but the people from Bring the Funny have been doing very well because that's Ali Takar. 00:06:01.279 --> 00:06:01.920 Yeah, Matt Rif. 00:06:02.240 --> 00:06:02.800 Takar did well. 00:06:03.040 --> 00:06:03.680 Takar did well. 00:06:03.920 --> 00:06:04.480 Is that Takar? 00:06:05.199 --> 00:06:05.439 Matt. 00:06:05.600 --> 00:06:05.920 Who else? 00:06:06.160 --> 00:06:07.279 Matt and um Matt Rife? 00:06:07.519 --> 00:06:08.560 Yeah, yeah, Matt Rif and then. 00:06:09.040 --> 00:06:11.600 It didn't it didn't catapult nobody, but I'm saying the class of people. 00:06:12.079 --> 00:06:13.920 I'm saying the on the show was all great. 00:06:14.079 --> 00:06:14.560 That's great. 00:06:14.639 --> 00:06:14.879 Yeah. 00:06:14.959 --> 00:06:15.199 Yeah. 00:06:15.439 --> 00:06:16.800 Funny AF catapulted. 00:06:17.120 --> 00:06:17.519 Oh, for sure. 00:06:18.000 --> 00:06:19.279 Selling out shows for sure. 00:06:19.759 --> 00:06:20.000 For sure. 00:06:20.319 --> 00:06:25.759 You know, Osama, who got runner up, he he was he would open for me on the road and then do colleges with me. 00:06:26.000 --> 00:06:27.519 And I always knew he was murdered. 00:06:27.759 --> 00:06:28.560 He's a piece, bro. 00:06:28.800 --> 00:06:30.959 I was like, he there's no reason why he's not gonna. 00:06:31.279 --> 00:06:32.560 I just saw him at JFL, man. 00:06:32.639 --> 00:06:33.439 He let me get a set. 00:06:33.600 --> 00:06:34.720 I was just I was kicking it. 00:06:34.879 --> 00:06:36.000 He just like, man, you wouldn't do my shows. 00:06:36.639 --> 00:06:36.959 Yes. 00:06:38.240 --> 00:06:39.519 Yeah, so he's always been killing it. 00:06:39.600 --> 00:06:45.439 Yeah, and the reason I the reason I asked that because um all that stuff is part of the is a part of the show. 00:06:45.519 --> 00:06:54.319 It's like that, that I didn't

want you to just dismiss that no because obviously you're killing it, but those no's is like how do you those no's cancel. 00:06:54.720 --> 00:06:59.120 Ira, man, there's so much to get to, bro, but our Did you first see me at Chocolate Sundays? 00:06:59.439 --> 00:07:01.040 Or was it D-Rays, Monday Rays? 00:07:01.120 --> 00:07:01.759 I can't remember. 00:07:01.839 --> 00:07:06.480 It was it was it might have been it might have been like uh a back-to-back, so it's a little foggy for me. 00:07:06.560 --> 00:07:12.160 It's like I'm about to tell you the story about how I got from from D-Ray to Chocolate Sundays to Wildin' Out, because it's an interesting story. 00:07:12.399 --> 00:07:12.720 Go for it. 00:07:12.800 --> 00:07:14.399 Oh, yes, please, yeah, go for it. 00:07:14.480 --> 00:07:15.120 Oh, you wanna hear this? 00:07:15.199 --> 00:07:15.839 Yeah, yes. 00:07:16.079 --> 00:07:19.360 I did um, so I was at the improv during Mon D Read. 00:07:19.439 --> 00:07:26.560 I was I was doing the small room, and there was a really cute girl at the bar, and I was with my my tour manager, and I was trying to alley oop him. 00:07:26.639 --> 00:07:28.240 I was like, You talk to this girl, you know. 00:07:28.480 --> 00:07:31.680 And he goes, My boys, he's headline in the small room, you should come check him out. 00:07:31.759 --> 00:07:32.879 He should be on D-Ray show. 00:07:33.040 --> 00:07:38.079 She's like, Well, actually, I'm D-Ray's assistant, and uh maybe I'll take a look. 00:07:38.720 --> 00:07:40.879 You know, she did come in, she saw my set. 00:07:41.120 --> 00:07:43.199 I hear she gets my number a month later. 00:07:43.360 --> 00:07:45.519 She hits me up and is like, You want to do D-Ray show? 00:07:45.759 --> 00:07:47.279 I do it, I kill it. 00:07:47.839 --> 00:07:50.800 D-Ray sees me in the bathroom, he's like, I didn't think you were gonna kill it like that. 00:07:50.879 --> 00:07:54.160 You gotta come back, do the show a second time, kill it. 00:07:54.240 --> 00:07:55.839 He's like, You're coming on the road with me now. 00:07:56.079 --> 00:07:57.040 I'm opening for him. 00:07:57.279 --> 00:07:59.040 Now I'm at the Braya Improv. 00:07:59.519 --> 00:08:01.759 It's a Sunday, Chocolate Sundays is going on. 00:08:01.839 --> 00:08:03.439 My friend is doing it for the first time. 00:08:03.519 --> 00:08:04.800 The like the development spot. 00:08:05.040 --> 00:08:05.600 First impressions. 00:08:05.759 --> 00:08:06.480 First impressions. 00:08:07.279 --> 00:08:09.279 And I go, hey man, I'm gonna dip early. 00:08:09.360 --> 00:08:10.639 My friend's doing chocolate sundaes. 00:08:10.720 --> 00:08:11.279 I've never been there before. 00:08:11.360 --> 00:08:12.240 I just want to like show face. 00:08:12.319 --> 00:08:14.160 He's like, You never did chocolate sundaes before? 00:08:14.720 --> 00:08:17.120 Or hold on, let me give me a second, I'm gonna make a phone call. 00:08:17.360 --> 00:08:18.319 He calls Pookie. 00:08:18.560 --> 00:08:19.839 Yeah, oh, is

this D Ray you saying? 00:08:19.920 --> 00:08:22.480 Yeah, D-Ray called D-Ray, hey Pookie, I got this guy's gonna pull up. 00:08:22.639 --> 00:08:23.839 You gotta put him on the show. 00:08:24.079 --> 00:08:26.319 I pull up, I bump my friend. 00:08:26.560 --> 00:08:26.879 Oh. 00:08:27.279 --> 00:08:30.399 For and I do, and I do a set, and I kill it. 00:08:30.480 --> 00:08:40.639 Oh, and then Lonnie is like, you gotta come back, and then I just kept doing Chocolate Sundays, and then I think one of the videos from Chocolate Sundays went viral, and then Nick Cannon DM'd me. 00:08:40.720 --> 00:08:43.440 I was in Scotland, and I was supposed to be there for a month. 00:08:43.519 --> 00:08:45.200 He was like, You want to come wallin' out with us? 00:08:45.440 --> 00:08:52.559 And then it was like three weeks later, I was in Atlanta doing the workshop, and then so it's it's interesting how those like same girls, you know what I mean? 00:08:52.639 --> 00:08:54.159 Like who were you on wildin' out for? 00:08:54.320 --> 00:08:57.039 I did three seasons, I did, I think it was like 18 or 19 episodes. 00:08:58.480 --> 00:09:01.759 But but you know, this was season uh 19, 20, and 21. 00:09:02.240 --> 00:09:06.240 So, and you know, it's it's uh it was an interesting experience. 00:09:06.399 --> 00:09:07.679 First time I had a black barber. 00:09:08.399 --> 00:09:12.480 Yeah, and then we're bro, it was cra the lineup was so crispy. 00:09:12.559 --> 00:09:13.679 I looked Puerto Rican, bro. 00:09:14.480 --> 00:09:17.840 Because if you was TV on the show, you you wouldn't know it was me. 00:09:17.919 --> 00:09:19.679 Yeah, except because I had a guitar, you know. 00:09:20.559 --> 00:09:23.600 But I walked up, Travis was his name, and he was like, What you need? 00:09:23.679 --> 00:09:24.480 I was like, I honestly don't know. 00:09:24.559 --> 00:09:26.159 They just sent me here, you'll say less. 00:09:26.320 --> 00:09:29.440 And he just kept the the lineup kept getting thinner. 00:09:29.679 --> 00:09:34.799 Like, you know, I got a full mustache, but it kept getting closer and closer to my lip. 00:09:34.960 --> 00:09:36.960 I was like, This is really thin, bro. 00:09:38.000 --> 00:09:41.039 But it was so crispy, it was so crispy, man. 00:09:41.279 --> 00:09:43.840 And um, but it was I learned a lot from that experience. 00:09:43.919 --> 00:09:45.360 And um what did you learn? 00:09:45.440 --> 00:09:47.360 What made that experience so interesting for you? 00:09:47.519 --> 00:09:53.039 Uh you know, you got 20 people on stage all battling for stay, you know, screen time. 00:09:53.200 --> 00:09:53.759 Screen time. 00:09:53.840 --> 00:09:55.440 You know, the executive producer was really clear. 00:09:55.519 --> 00:10:03.679 He's like, look, if I have to choose between one long, really great joke or three cast members getting three short jokes in, I'm gonna go three cast members. 00:10:04.240 --> 00:10:09.360 He, you know, you gotta be quick with your punchlines, you gotta be loud, and that's just kind of what it is. 00:10:09.519 --> 00:10:16.159 Yeah, no, and learning how to like go live to tape also on a with a studio audience is something I I was I learned. 00:10:16.480 --> 00:10:20.559 And um yeah, it just was an interesting environment, you know. 00:10:20.639 --> 00:10:28.720 Like, uh, and also like learning, knowing how to be like, look, I know that is not like I'm not supposed to be the star of that show. 00:10:28.960 --> 00:10:29.600 You know what I mean? 00:10:29.679 --> 00:10:33.679 Like, I I I go in there, I'm I support, I get my jokes in once in a while, and that's it. 00:10:33.919 --> 00:10:35.120 And but it's what I learned. 00:10:35.200 --> 00:10:44.720 Uh and you know, Nick was super nice, and um the main cast who's been there for years were they were super talented, they got their their stuff down like the back of their hand, you know. 00:10:44.879 --> 00:10:45.679 So yeah. 00:10:46.159 --> 00:10:53.120 So uh I I want to go back to the to the uh D-Ray thing, because you was on uh I remember you doing the dates with him. 00:10:53.440 --> 00:11:00.000 How how what uh what did you cause D-Ray is w one of our GOATs that just doesn't get spoke of enough? 00:11:00.159 --> 00:11:01.039 No, because he set the room. 00:11:01.200 --> 00:11:02.799 And he puts people on, he put Matt Rifle on too. 00:11:02.960 --> 00:11:05.360 Yeah, he's let me he let me open up on him. 00:11:05.679 --> 00:11:10.320 D-Ray is And he taught me a lot about how to like treat an opener and take care of people and things like that. 00:11:10.720 --> 00:11:10.960 Absolutely. 00:11:11.360 --> 00:11:16.080 You know, yeah, but he also like I know being on that road, you had to perceive some things. 00:11:16.240 --> 00:11:21.440 What did you understand, like going out with you know a headliner like D-Ray and seeing certain things on the road? 00:11:21.679 --> 00:11:24.799 Well, you know, his his rooms obviously are primarily like black rooms, right? 00:11:24.960 --> 00:11:36.000 You know, it's uh so like when I was doing those shows, I made, you know, I I have a lot of different aspects of my show, including like when I use the guitar, it's like a RB, I have RB songs, comedy songs. 00:11:36.399 --> 00:11:41.360 So for those shows, I usually kept it to like the RB stuff because I have some more like how do I say this? 00:11:41.440 --> 00:11:55.759 Like, I have songs that are like, you know, Midwest friendly or corporate or whatever it is, and just kind of adjusting my set uh for the crowd, you know, because as you know, like black crowds, like they they when they love you, they they love you. 00:11:55.919 --> 00:11:58.399 Yeah, yeah, and when they don't like you, they let you know about it. 00:11:58.720 --> 00:11:59.519 Yeah, immediately. 00:11:59.840 --> 00:12:04.159 And I I was even booed at one of D-Ray shows at uh it was what it was a New Year's show. 00:12:07.039 --> 00:12:12.080 Okay, um, so it was New Year's Eve, the Airy Crown

Theater in Chicago. 00:12:12.240 --> 00:12:19.679 The lineup, it was two nights, and the lineup was like Donald Rollins, uh Desse Banks, um T.I. 00:12:19.840 --> 00:12:21.200 was on there, Lunel was on there. 00:12:21.440 --> 00:12:22.559 Oh, sorry, this got a recent. 00:12:23.120 --> 00:12:24.879 No, this was like three or three or four years ago. 00:12:25.200 --> 00:12:25.679 Okay, okay. 00:12:26.000 --> 00:12:29.279 And I had done Mother's Day with him in Peore, Illinois, and I killed that shit. 00:12:29.360 --> 00:12:30.639 It was like, I don't know, two or three thousand. 00:12:30.960 --> 00:12:32.480 It was my first big, big theater. 00:12:32.799 --> 00:12:36.799 And then uh night one, mind you, it's like a DJ. 00:12:37.120 --> 00:12:42.720 And then there is um, there was like a RB artist, like a local RB act with like backup dancers. 00:12:42.879 --> 00:12:43.919 Yeah, we understand them shows. 00:12:44.159 --> 00:12:44.559 You know what I mean? 00:12:44.639 --> 00:12:55.759 You know, so it's like, so by so then it's D-Ray, and then it's me, but by that time, people are still showing up, people are still arriving, getting drinks, and you know, and um night one went really well. 00:12:55.919 --> 00:12:58.559 I did my what I do, I did Suspicious as fuck. 00:12:59.279 --> 00:13:00.320 Suspicious as fuck? 00:13:00.480 --> 00:13:01.440 Yeah, I did that, I did that. 00:13:01.840 --> 00:13:02.799 I think I did split the check. 00:13:02.879 --> 00:13:18.320 I did suspicious fuck and split the check, which are like Syn along and a little crowd, a lot of crowd working that, and those did really well, you know, for having to go first on that lineup, especially like I'm the odd man out, I'm like off-white, I'm like ethnic, they don't know like who is this guy with a guitar, you know. 00:13:18.559 --> 00:13:19.600 So I did really well. 00:13:19.759 --> 00:13:21.679 Second night, I was like, all right, well, I killed last night. 00:13:21.759 --> 00:13:24.159 Let me switch up my set just a little bit. 00:13:25.039 --> 00:13:27.279 And I did a different song. 00:13:27.360 --> 00:13:35.279 I did the song I closed with the night before first, and then the second song was one I had done at D-Ray shows so many times. 00:13:35.440 --> 00:13:37.759 It was a friend zone song, it always killed. 00:13:37.919 --> 00:13:38.399 Right. 00:13:38.639 --> 00:13:55.039 But like this was New Year's Eve, and uh it just wasn't landing, and then like some woman in the back was like, get off the stage, and you know, it just takes one person, it just takes a one, it takes a one, and then we agree. 00:13:55.840 --> 00:14:07.759 No, truly, truly, and then like it was like because that theater's about 4,000, and that it was that whole section, I would have to say it was like several hundred to a thousand people were like booing, and there's a video, I even posted it. 00:14:07.840 --> 00:14:13.279 There's a video of it because a girl posted it, and the video was I watching this motherfucker Morgan J. 00:14:13.440 --> 00:14:18.399 Bomb hard as fuck a D-Ray show and I was like, could you send that to me? 00:14:19.600 --> 00:14:25.679 And then I posted it because it's like you need to um, you need to like have those moments too, right? 00:14:25.759 --> 00:14:30.159 Also, like I was having an amazing year that year, so it was such a poetic period. 00:14:30.399 --> 00:14:34.559 Yeah, at the end of like I was like, I cannot lose. 00:14:35.440 --> 00:14:36.799 I am always winning. 00:14:37.039 --> 00:14:38.960 And then like that happened. 00:14:39.039 --> 00:14:44.000 I remember I walked off stage, went straight to my dressing room, closed the door, went into the bathroom, closed the door. 00:14:44.159 --> 00:14:48.799 I sat there for like five or ten minutes, and I was like, because it just felt it don't feel like real life, you know what I mean? 00:14:48.879 --> 00:14:49.279 Yeah, yeah. 00:14:49.600 --> 00:14:54.000 And then uh eventually I went to D-Ray's room and I was like, hey man, uh, you gave me this opportunity and I appreciate it. 00:14:54.080 --> 00:14:56.480 I feel like I kind of let you down, you know, because he really does put people on. 00:14:56.559 --> 00:14:59.039 He's like, hey man, sometimes they're gonna boo you, you know. 00:14:59.360 --> 00:14:59.759 Chicago. 00:15:00.000 --> 00:15:01.360 He's like, sometimes they're gonna boo you, bro. 00:15:01.519 --> 00:15:02.960 Yeah, that was it. 00:15:03.039 --> 00:15:03.519 That's what he said. 00:15:04.000 --> 00:15:04.559 That was his advice. 00:15:05.679 --> 00:15:06.320 You know what's funny? 00:15:06.399 --> 00:15:09.279 Uh is is your your reality is your reality? 00:15:09.360 --> 00:15:11.679 Because I remember my consistent conversation with you. 00:15:11.759 --> 00:15:14.799 Every time I saw you, every time I said, I said the same thing. 00:15:14.879 --> 00:15:17.840 I said, Morgan, I don't know what you're charging, but raise the price. 00:15:18.080 --> 00:15:23.759 I say it's it's such a unique space that you're in that I this is gonna work. 00:15:23.919 --> 00:15:28.240 Like, I don't know when, I don't know how, but you're destroying all these rooms. 00:15:28.320 --> 00:15:40.320 I was like, and it's such a it's a it's a unique way you're destroying, which one, if I'm producing a show, it's uh it's ideal to have you on because you change the you change the whole the energy. 00:15:40.799 --> 00:15:44.399 Two, you're doing well in all the rooms, like and you're not changing yourself. 00:15:44.480 --> 00:15:53.519 It's you know, we won't get into it, but the there's like comics that do things to placate to urban audiences, yeah. 00:15:53.679 --> 00:15:55.759 And can't you say their names in social security? 00:15:56.159 --> 00:15:56.960 Well, one of them. 00:15:58.240 --> 00:15:59.679 I know exactly what you're talking about, yeah. 00:15:59.840 --> 00:16:01.759 Or like hopefully switching or changing the voice. 00:16:02.080 --> 00:16:02.240 Right.

00:16:02.480 --> 00:16:10.240 I mean, you know, last night I did a show, it was a black room, and you know, I did my stand-up and I did like a song or two, but it was I just did it the way I normally would do it. 00:16:10.320 --> 00:16:10.480 Yeah, yeah. 00:16:10.559 --> 00:16:11.279 I went fine. 00:16:11.519 --> 00:16:19.200 You know what Tiffany Haddis said to me, I was in Detroit doing a show and she said, because I asked her how much should I be charging for tickets, and she's like, You want to know how much you really should be charging for tickets? 00:16:19.519 --> 00:16:24.240 If you're selling out, look at what your resellers are charging tickets for, and that's what you should charge your tickets for. 00:16:24.720 --> 00:16:29.840 So if somebody's selling a front row ticket, reselling a front row ticket for$300, that should be the price of the front row ticket. 00:16:29.919 --> 00:16:32.080 I don't do that yet. 00:16:32.720 --> 00:16:33.039 Right. 00:16:33.519 --> 00:16:38.159 But it's a matter of like, I just my audience is like you know, they're working class people. 00:16:38.240 --> 00:16:40.639 If you see my audience, it's like very diverse. 00:16:40.720 --> 00:16:45.759 It's like everybody comes to my shows, and I know people don't have money, they're very, they're they're way younger. 00:16:46.320 --> 00:17:00.639 Um, and uh a lot of times I'm their first comedy show, so there's a lot of pressure that people may not know is that like the show should be good because if they spend fifty to seventy dollars just on the ticket and the show is bad, they'll never go to a comedy show again. 00:17:00.720 --> 00:17:00.879 Right? 00:17:00.960 --> 00:17:05.200 They're gonna think all these people that they see on TikTok or Instagram are bad, and they're not gonna want to go out. 00:17:05.279 --> 00:17:07.119 So like I'll make sure the show is really good. 00:17:07.440 --> 00:17:07.680 You know? 00:17:08.480 --> 00:17:13.200 So I had a question about you being like racially ambiguous looking. 00:17:13.839 --> 00:17:16.160 Do you feel like it has helped you or hurt you? 00:17:16.480 --> 00:17:24.960 Because I I almost feel like people of like specific ethnic groups, it's almost like once your community finds you, they like put gas behind you. 00:17:25.119 --> 00:17:26.559 Like they really come out of support. 00:17:26.799 --> 00:17:28.319 But what what what's your feeling on it? 00:17:28.559 --> 00:17:35.519 Yeah, you know, at the beginning, I even changed my last name when I came to LA because my last name is Venti Cinque, and I go by my first and middle name. 00:17:35.759 --> 00:17:42.720 But now it's like being ethnic and being like a type is really good in in Hollywood or the industry, you know. 00:17:42.960 --> 00:17:48.240 Uh, but I th I think overall it's it's helped me because it's like I can weave into any dude. 00:17:48.319 --> 00:17:51.680 I'm I'm going to the Philippines and I I sold like 6,000 tickets in the Philippines. 00:17:52.240 --> 00:18:02.079 Yeah, you know, or like any part of the country, it's like I I could be and also I'm doing music, which it's like it's not it's not edgy, but like people could sing along, they know the show's just gonna be a good time. 00:18:02.160 --> 00:18:05.839 Yeah, and so they're they're in for a good they're in for a good show. 00:18:06.000 --> 00:18:09.279 And I I'm mostly just talking about relationships and sex and dating. 00:18:09.359 --> 00:18:17.440 And you know, I think because I look the way I look, like even on Wildin' Out, man, when they were they had a hard time coming up with like disses for me. 00:18:17.680 --> 00:18:17.920 Right. 00:18:18.160 --> 00:18:23.359 They would they would call they would call me White and Muhammad in the same sentence, and I'd be like, which one is it, bro? 00:18:23.440 --> 00:18:24.480 Let's pick, you know what I mean? 00:18:24.559 --> 00:18:26.640 Like, so they they wouldn't even know. 00:18:27.359 --> 00:18:33.920 And I think that's to my benefit now because I can weave into certain things, and I I did have to create my own lane. 00:18:34.079 --> 00:18:55.359 I mean, not to get into the weeds with it, but when you're auditioning for roles in this industry, you know, I I don't think I could go out for like Indian or Arab or whatever it is because I don't have you know, while I do kind of look like that, that that role, you know, I don't have like, you know, a patel or an Ali or a type, I don't have a last name like that, right? 00:18:55.599 --> 00:19:07.920 And I wouldn't go out for a Hispanic role or a Latin role because like I remember auditioned for it's like Hawaii 5.0 or CSI something, and they were looking for a Mexican veteran. 00:19:08.400 --> 00:19:10.880 But like, and I did the audition, but I knew what they were looking for. 00:19:10.960 --> 00:19:18.160 I mean, I think we all know what they're kind of looking for, and it's not me, it's like Buzz Hair, kind of maybe a little bit shorter, a little bit just you know what I'm talking about. 00:19:18.240 --> 00:19:21.759 But like I'll do the audition because you know you want to win the casting director overall. 00:19:21.920 --> 00:19:26.799 But so in those, in that sense, it's been kind of tough because it's like trying to find a role. 00:19:26.880 --> 00:19:30.960 Like, I I might just at the in the end have to write my role for myself. 00:19:31.039 --> 00:19:33.200 And I do have a deal that I'm working on for a TV show. 00:19:33.519 --> 00:19:34.319 What up, y'all? 00:19:34.400 --> 00:19:35.599 Thank you for uh watching, man. 00:19:35.680 --> 00:19:38.799 Listen, we appreciate you, but I need you to go ahead and hit that little subscribe. 00:19:38.880 --> 00:19:41.519 Don't hit the little subscribe button. 00:19:41.680 --> 00:19:42.240 Thank you. 00:19:42.319 --> 00:19:43.599 That didn't take but so long. 00:19:43.680 --> 00:19:44.079 Look at you. 00:19:44.240 --> 00:19:44.720 Harmless. 00:19:45.200 --> 00:19:48.319 Let's

talk about when it when it got crazy. 00:19:48.799 --> 00:19:54.720 Uh you're doing shows, you're filming, you're posting, and then something clicked. 00:19:55.200 --> 00:19:56.720 Was it in the editing style? 00:19:56.880 --> 00:19:58.319 Was it a specific video? 00:19:58.559 --> 00:19:59.759 Was it the accumulative? 00:19:59.920 --> 00:20:01.200 Do you do you remember what it? 00:20:01.279 --> 00:20:02.240 I know you remember the time. 00:20:02.400 --> 00:20:04.559 Yeah, it was it was no, I literally know the day. 00:20:04.640 --> 00:20:06.880 It was November 29th, 2023. 00:20:07.680 --> 00:20:10.880 I was in the middle of touring, or I just finished the tour, something like that. 00:20:11.680 --> 00:20:19.200 And by that point, I think I had like I don't know, 400, some somewhere between 400 and 7,000 followers, 700,000 followers on um TikTok. 00:20:19.680 --> 00:20:20.960 Wait, 400,000? 00:20:21.119 --> 00:20:22.799 400,000 to 700,000 on TikTok. 00:20:23.440 --> 00:20:25.359 And you're and this is you're doing clubs at the time? 00:20:25.599 --> 00:20:28.880 At the time I'm doing clubs, I'm doing like Wednesday nights, Tuesday nights. 00:20:29.039 --> 00:20:30.000 I'm selling that's right. 00:20:30.160 --> 00:20:32.960 I'm selling like at minimum 60 tickets. 00:20:33.359 --> 00:20:35.119 The most I sold was in New York. 00:20:35.200 --> 00:20:37.200 It was like 375 tickets. 00:20:38.240 --> 00:20:40.799 And that's all that's crazy. 00:20:40.960 --> 00:20:43.759 And you have 400,000 to 700,000, that's all the tickets. 00:20:44.240 --> 00:20:44.640 Oh wow. 00:20:44.880 --> 00:20:45.759 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:20:45.759 --> 00:20:53.200 And um, yeah, so there like sometimes there's a correlation between numbers and ticket sales, and sometimes there isn't. 00:20:53.519 --> 00:20:55.039 You know, it just kind of depends. 00:20:55.359 --> 00:20:58.240 Which is w which I'll get into like the strategy of how I sell tickets. 00:20:58.319 --> 00:20:58.880 Yeah, yeah. 00:20:59.599 --> 00:21:00.079 That's what we hear. 00:21:00.480 --> 00:21:19.039 Um, but yeah, this one video I posted, honestly, I thought it was kind of a mid video, but it went 10 million views in in 24 hours, and then within a week it was like 60 million, and then on my TikTok only, and then it got up to 130 million on TikTok. 00:21:19.359 --> 00:21:31.680 What's really funny about this video is that a Nigerian influencer or meme account downloaded it, posted it on their account, it went mega viral in Nigeria. 00:21:32.559 --> 00:21:36.640 And I swear to you, Nigeria is one of like I haven't been there, but it's one of my top markets. 00:21:36.720 --> 00:21:40.240 If I I could sell out a show of at least a thousand to two thousand people in Nigeria. 00:21:40.559 --> 00:21:41.599 Which video was it? 00:21:42.000 --> 00:21:44.640 It was um It was like, what's your name, bro? 00:21:44.880 --> 00:21:45.440 Ethan. 00:21:46.000 --> 00:21:50.480 And like it was like kind of playing on this this

guy who might have been cheating on his girl. 00:21:50.640 --> 00:21:50.880 Right. 00:21:51.039 --> 00:21:53.839 But it wasn't like he wasn't, you couldn't even see him in the video. 00:21:54.000 --> 00:21:55.920 But I think it was a vibe, and that's what I learned. 00:21:56.000 --> 00:22:09.759 Like, the younger audiences, they're kind of just looking for a vibe more than like A very clever thing, like you know, when you see my feed, you see the show and it looks fun, so you're like, I want to go there. 00:22:10.000 --> 00:22:18.880 And while people who do sketches online, that's great, you know, there they may not buy a tick ticket to a show because that doesn't really show you what you're buying, right? 00:22:19.119 --> 00:22:22.880 Dude, where does this music where does music influence come from? 00:22:23.119 --> 00:22:25.119 You know, I was doing stand-up for six years. 00:22:25.359 --> 00:22:29.039 I will, I mean, I was doing fine, but I I just wasn't really having fun. 00:22:29.119 --> 00:22:31.279 You know, I had a couple opportunities that fell through. 00:22:31.359 --> 00:22:36.480 I had auditioned for all those like MTV, talking heads, like I love the 90s, the two. 00:22:36.960 --> 00:22:38.720 You know those shows I have to show you. 00:22:38.880 --> 00:22:42.079 Yeah, being like a VJ, I had a hack for girl code type stuff. 00:22:42.400 --> 00:22:46.000 Yeah, I had auditioned for all these things, like nothing ever panned out. 00:22:46.160 --> 00:22:51.359 I auditioned for JFL a few times, nothing panned out, and I just was like, this is like, what am I doing? 00:22:51.440 --> 00:22:52.720 Like, I'm not even enjoying this. 00:22:52.799 --> 00:22:57.440 You know, I ran I ran my six minutes like every day for however the fuck long, you know? 00:22:58.000 --> 00:22:58.880 And it wasn't fun. 00:22:58.960 --> 00:23:01.039 So I was like, let me switch it up. 00:23:01.119 --> 00:23:04.000 I took a summer because I had already played music for like 10 years. 00:23:04.079 --> 00:23:12.880 I played guitar for a while, and then I just switched it up and then experimented one summer, did two songs, took it around the open mics, did really well. 00:23:13.440 --> 00:23:18.559 And then uh, you know, those two songs turned into like I think I got like 40 or 50 songs now. 00:23:19.599 --> 00:23:22.000 What made you comfortable with that choice? 00:23:22.319 --> 00:23:23.200 Well, I wasn't, man. 00:23:23.279 --> 00:23:26.720 I mean, the first time I I brought a guitar on stage, I was like, sh I was shaking. 00:23:27.359 --> 00:23:30.000 I was shaking because I I thought I thought I didn't sing well. 00:23:30.319 --> 00:23:34.319 I thought my comedy peers are gonna be like, this is this is bullshit. 00:23:34.400 --> 00:23:36.799 This guy he can't tell jokes, so he's gonna use a guitar. 00:23:36.960 --> 00:23:40.240 And there are people who do feel that way, and I and I I get it, I get it, you know. 00:23:40.400 --> 00:23:42.000 Nobody gives you shit when you do it well, right? 00:23:42.160 --> 00:23:46.000 But when you, you know, and they do it because they give you shit because they can't do it. 00:23:46.079 --> 00:23:49.279 Yeah, it's the it's it's almost like the same thing with people that do impressions. 00:23:49.359 --> 00:23:50.480 It's like I do it. 00:23:50.640 --> 00:23:52.079 If I could do impressions, I would do it. 00:23:52.240 --> 00:23:52.319 Right. 00:23:52.960 --> 00:23:53.359 You kidding me? 00:23:53.759 --> 00:23:54.079 He's great. 00:23:54.400 --> 00:23:55.599 Uh you a hoe ass nigga. 00:23:55.680 --> 00:23:58.400 The everybody that's hating just gives you a lot of things. 00:23:58.480 --> 00:23:59.279 I got it. 00:23:59.440 --> 00:24:05.200 I mean, I've heard it, I've heard it through, I've literally heard people on podcasts say that I am a hack. 00:24:05.759 --> 00:24:07.680 And um, and that's okay. 00:24:07.920 --> 00:24:21.839 And I and you know, while there's there's positive feedback, there's negative feedback, I think when you go to a live show and you see all the things I'm doing, I'm juggling a lot of things to to sing and to improv and to play and to learn how to. 00:24:22.160 --> 00:24:22.960 There's a lot of things going on. 00:24:23.359 --> 00:24:43.279 You know what, to what you're saying, and to also what Jess was saying, a lot of times, um I think people think it's a hack or they like to use those kind of terms because you do it well, so it seems like a cheat code, but I'm like, unless you do it, you don't know the skill level behind that. 00:24:43.359 --> 00:24:43.680 Exactly. 00:24:43.839 --> 00:24:45.519 You gotta like, you gotta, you don't understand. 00:24:46.000 --> 00:24:50.240 I don't see the shows where I was like having technical difficulties and wires are fucked up. 00:24:50.319 --> 00:24:52.160 I'm like on stage and this shit is happening. 00:24:52.319 --> 00:24:57.119 You don't see that part, you don't see me in my room plugging stuff in, testing the auto-tune out. 00:24:57.440 --> 00:25:06.000 Mossy, my tour manager who's with me all the time, I think you've met Mossy, he he's he he's seen it from the ground up and has seen how how it's evolved. 00:25:06.160 --> 00:25:08.880 And but you don't see that part of it because obviously I'm not gonna show you that part of it. 00:25:09.200 --> 00:25:09.359 Right. 00:25:09.920 --> 00:25:14.559 So I I wanna I definitely wanna touch on the dynamics there, but I want to stay here for a second. 00:25:14.880 --> 00:25:25.519 So this this uh elitist conversation that comics have about how the R form is supposed to be and so on and so forth, first of all, it's bullshit because it's never been like that. 00:25:25.759 --> 00:25:27.519 In the history of comedy, it's never been like that. 00:25:28.160 --> 00:25:35.119 There's there's there's always been people who have done it their own way and have been successful, and at the end of the day, what does the audience want? 00:25:35.359 --> 00:25:38.160 See, you

specifically, I've seen comics with guitars before. 00:25:38.799 --> 00:25:40.319 It was something very specific. 00:25:40.559 --> 00:25:45.759 It was the RB angle, it was the way that you were incorporating crowd work into it. 00:25:46.000 --> 00:25:50.799 It was like, I was like, I've never seen I've seen plenty of comics with do musical, they do keys. 00:25:51.039 --> 00:25:52.240 I've never seen this. 00:25:52.480 --> 00:25:54.880 This is something very specific, very unique. 00:25:54.960 --> 00:25:56.480 I I've never seen nothing close to it. 00:25:56.559 --> 00:25:58.559 So I was always like, nah, bro, raise the price, bro. 00:25:58.799 --> 00:26:00.160 This is like you know what I'm saying? 00:26:00.240 --> 00:26:12.319 So like now to see you have fully flushed out and a full development of show, how did when you start incorporating the elements, uh for was this specific for the bigger shows? 00:26:12.559 --> 00:26:14.799 Did you see or did you see it working in the clubs as well? 00:26:14.880 --> 00:26:18.400 Like, yeah, well, well so now that I've been doing the big theaters, the show has changed. 00:26:18.480 --> 00:26:20.640 When I was doing clubs, it was just me and the guitar. 00:26:20.880 --> 00:26:22.720 And I would do it like an hour with a guitar. 00:26:23.359 --> 00:26:25.759 Uh songs that I had written and crowd work. 00:26:26.400 --> 00:26:30.880 And then little by little the the songs had crowd work built into them. 00:26:31.359 --> 00:26:39.279 And then as I moved on to theaters, which I did my first set of theaters, it was twenty twenty-four. 00:26:39.519 --> 00:26:44.640 I went straight from doing like a 300-seat club to a 1600 seat theater in Australia. 00:26:44.880 --> 00:26:51.039 Just to inject just to eject in in into that, uh how did you know it was time for that conversion? 00:26:51.359 --> 00:26:52.000 I mean, I didn't. 00:26:52.079 --> 00:26:53.680 I was I was really reluctant to do it. 00:26:53.759 --> 00:26:59.119 And my agents could confirm that because it was like my show really thrived in a small, intimate setting. 00:26:59.359 --> 00:27:02.160 And I was like, how am I gonna translate this to scale it, yeah? 00:27:02.319 --> 00:27:03.279 How do I scale this up? 00:27:03.359 --> 00:27:10.160 Because like there's a person in the back of the room who's even if I go into the crowd even for a little bit to the second row, they can't see me anymore. 00:27:10.319 --> 00:27:12.880 So then it's then their ticket's worth nothing, you know? 00:27:13.200 --> 00:27:15.680 So I would start bringing people on stage. 00:27:16.000 --> 00:27:23.440 And just to go back to what you were saying, the show has evolved for the most part in service of the the user, the audience member, right? 00:27:23.599 --> 00:27:27.359 Uh I want the person in the back row to have just as good a time as the person in the front row. 00:27:27.920 --> 00:27:38.640 Um so then at the end of 2024 was the first time we implemented, I tested the camera, the roaming camera. 00:27:39.279 --> 00:27:42.720 Uh so it's all you're it's always projected on the screen. 00:27:42.880 --> 00:27:43.200 Dope. 00:27:43.359 --> 00:27:45.119 So that way everybody could see it. 00:27:45.279 --> 00:27:54.160 Which by the way, I want to point out it's like not new new technology and comedians use it, but I just implemented it another way and I had a different style about it. 00:27:54.319 --> 00:27:59.200 There's comics now that I see who are doing it, and it's like so clear to me, you know what I mean? 00:27:59.279 --> 00:27:59.680 Which is fine. 00:27:59.759 --> 00:28:06.480 I didn't like I said, I didn't invent like the camera, this I didn't invent the, I just used it in a certain way, and that changed. 00:28:06.640 --> 00:28:12.799 And now with the big venues that are anywhere between like 3,000 plus, I have a full band. 00:28:13.599 --> 00:28:21.119 Um, because I'm you know, when I went to theater school, and what they taught me was like, you know, your show should adjust for the size of the room, you know. 00:28:21.200 --> 00:28:27.920 So like if you're doing a 100-seat room, you could be a little bit smaller, and as it gets bigger, you gotta be, you have to be bigger, the show has to be bigger. 00:28:28.079 --> 00:28:34.480 You know, when you see comedians do act outs, for example, in a theater, like make the act out even bigger. 00:28:34.640 --> 00:28:38.000 Yeah, because the last person needs to see it. 00:28:38.240 --> 00:28:50.400 The other thing is when you take your show international, your act outs have to be so much bigger and specific because like there is a language barrier, and the one thing they do understand is body language and how you move your body. 00:28:50.559 --> 00:28:57.039 Yeah, and like you can get laughs off of a smile, off of a movement, and I don't think people really understand that. 00:28:57.119 --> 00:29:00.240 I mean, you we know comics, some great amazing comics who did that. 00:29:00.559 --> 00:29:10.079 I mean, you know, so Sebastian Manascalco comes to mind, Kat Williams comes to mind, yeah, and just like being really big with those movements, you know? 00:29:10.160 --> 00:29:26.559 Yeah, see, like you know the um the the reason I I I want to to touch on this, because like there's let me tell it, the we're in a different, there's new 30-year-olds, there's new 25 and 27-year-olds and new people buying the tickets. 00:29:26.640 --> 00:29:26.799 Yeah. 00:29:27.039 --> 00:29:35.279 So it's like the generation that's buying tickets now has a phone in their face and they're filming themselves and they film themselves eating, and it's like it's a different generation. 00:29:35.359 --> 00:29:52.960 We, you know, so pre-internet, maybe you maybe the crowd like I think that's why I see the crowd work clips or uh engagement with an audience working very well, and people are doing very, very well in that space, is because they want somebody on them too. 00:29:53.119 --> 00:30:00.960

Meanwhile, the the structured there's comic peers are like, no, it just has to be me talking about what I want to talk about and mine stories. 00:30:02.000 --> 00:30:08.799 I mean, you know, like a hundred years ago, it was like Groucho Marx doing comedy with like a rubber duck and a big mustache and a cigar. 00:30:08.960 --> 00:30:09.279 Right. 00:30:09.440 --> 00:30:12.960 And then, you know, then it changed, and then it changed again, and then it changed again. 00:30:13.119 --> 00:30:24.480 I mean, I think there's a world where, you know, classic comedy can exist and you just mix it with newer stuff, and you know, these audiences now, to your point, I I never bag up a phone anymore. 00:30:24.559 --> 00:30:26.240 I let them film every part of the show. 00:30:26.480 --> 00:30:26.880 Really? 00:30:27.039 --> 00:30:30.960 Now I I can do that because I'm doing music and my shit is repeatable. 00:30:31.200 --> 00:30:34.160 You know, people want to hear the song. 00:30:34.400 --> 00:30:39.440 Yeah, if I don't do the LOL, the auto-tune, they're pissed off, you know. 00:30:39.599 --> 00:30:40.559 So I have to do that. 00:30:40.640 --> 00:30:42.559 I have to do like the greatest hits kind of thing. 00:30:42.799 --> 00:30:46.400 And then I can do the stuff I want to do, and I could just mix it up. 00:30:46.559 --> 00:30:47.920 But I I let them film everything. 00:30:48.000 --> 00:30:52.319 And then they listen to this, and then they post it before I even get a chance to post it. 00:30:52.640 --> 00:30:53.599 And then the shit goes viral. 00:30:53.680 --> 00:30:59.680 So it's like it's like a machine that just like because then if that if their clip goes viral, they're like, wait, whose show is this? 00:30:59.920 --> 00:31:01.279 I maybe I'll go to it, you know? 00:31:01.359 --> 00:31:04.640 Like it builds a lore and a story, you know what I mean? 00:31:05.119 --> 00:31:06.960 And now it's it's like own marketing machine. 00:31:07.119 --> 00:31:22.799 I mean, I definitely have created like a a content hack, and I and listen, I'm the I'll be the first person to admit that a lot of stuff I post is the same, it's very similar, but when something does go viral, you know, 90% of the people seeing it, seeing the video, it's for the first time. 00:31:23.279 --> 00:31:23.839 You know what I mean? 00:31:24.000 --> 00:31:24.559 Yeah, yeah. 00:31:24.720 --> 00:31:30.079 So like was that the trick you was referencing earlier when you was- No, I'll tell you the strategy, I'm gonna give you the strategy. 00:31:30.160 --> 00:31:33.200 I was about to do the strategies I have now, like, because I know how it works. 00:31:33.440 --> 00:31:42.720 I book my tour dates anywhere between a minimum, or well, I I'll I'll announce my tour dates anywhere between five months to almost a year in advance. 00:31:43.359 --> 00:31:49.519 Because um what I do is I post every day, and at the end of every video, I post the tour dates. 00:31:49.680 --> 00:31:50.640 How many times a day? 00:31:50.799 --> 00:31:51.519 I post once a day. 00:31:51.680 --> 00:31:51.839 Okay. 00:31:52.000 --> 00:31:58.720 Sometimes and then I post one crowd work clip a day, and then I will post maybe every other day. 00:31:58.799 --> 00:32:02.720 I I have some other like live stream, I'm trying to get you know, live streaming and playing video games and stuff like that. 00:32:03.039 --> 00:32:12.240 And I post that every other day, and I have different types of content, but those clips once a day, and at the end of every video is the tour dates in the description. 00:32:12.319 --> 00:32:14.559 Are the tour dates every 24 hours? 00:32:14.640 --> 00:32:21.839 My tour dates have to be posted to my story because you have to assume, like you said, there's new 30-year-olds, new 25. 00:32:22.160 --> 00:32:23.759 Every day you're getting a new fan. 00:32:24.079 --> 00:32:31.279 So just because somebody in London has been following you for a year, there's somebody in London who just discovered you today. 00:32:31.599 --> 00:32:32.799 So, like, smart. 00:32:32.960 --> 00:32:39.759 And you know, like I've even gotten feedback from bookers and venues that are like, you know, his ticket sales are really interesting. 00:32:39.920 --> 00:32:42.400 He sells like a couple tickets every day. 00:32:42.640 --> 00:32:45.359 Every day he sells like, you know, five tickets, ten tickets. 00:32:45.599 --> 00:32:46.160 Oh, wow. 00:32:46.400 --> 00:32:48.799 Because I post every day, because they don't know, man. 00:32:48.880 --> 00:32:49.519 They swipe. 00:32:49.680 --> 00:32:55.440 You know what it is to get a fan to just like you know, they people swipe a hundred times a day at minimum, right? 00:32:55.680 --> 00:33:06.960 And they may see ten different artists they love, but they just swipe because they don't they don't swipe to see the profile name, they don't see if they have tour dates, they don't see if they're coming to be, they just don't know. 00:33:07.200 --> 00:33:07.519 You know? 00:33:07.680 --> 00:33:11.519 So you just have you have to be vigilant about being like, I'm gonna be here. 00:33:11.680 --> 00:33:21.200 And I know for our peers that might seem like a lot of self-promotion, but for the people who are really buying tickets to your show, they're grateful because they didn't know they're like, oh, you're gonna be in Minnesota tomorrow? 00:33:21.359 --> 00:33:21.519 Right. 00:33:21.839 --> 00:33:23.519 Like, yes, I'll be in Minnesota tomorrow. 00:33:23.920 --> 00:33:24.319 Yeah, yeah. 00:33:25.359 --> 00:33:29.599 You know, you you have an interesting uh edit style too. 00:33:29.839 --> 00:33:39.599 It has a there's like a code open, there's big graphics code open into like it's like I don't know, I don't know how to explain it. 00:33:39.680 --> 00:33:42.240 I was like, I'll I'll you don't I you don't have to give them your secret sauce. 00:33:42.480 --> 00:33:48.400 No, I'll tell you the first, you know, they they they it's like they they say the first

three seconds you gotta be hooked in. 00:33:49.200 --> 00:34:00.160 Um so you know what I do is I put the punchline or whatever the funniest part of the video first, and I put the the beginning of the video at the end, and if they last that long, what happens is it it loops. 00:34:00.240 --> 00:34:00.400 Yeah. 00:34:00.559 --> 00:34:01.200 You know what I'm talking about? 00:34:01.359 --> 00:34:04.880 It loops perfectly, and then it and when it loops it goes back to the beginning of the video, which is the end. 00:34:05.039 --> 00:34:05.839 That's what it is, yeah. 00:34:05.920 --> 00:34:11.280 Cause it's like it's almost yeah, because by the time you go to get to the end of the video, is it and they're not long videos. 00:34:11.519 --> 00:34:18.159 Nah minimum 61 seconds, because you want to in order to get paid from TikTok, and then up to three minutes. 00:34:18.559 --> 00:34:27.920 And then um the longer the video, the longer the watch time, the um, yeah, the more the more views you'll get, the more money you'll get. 00:34:28.079 --> 00:34:31.360 But you know, TikTok is the the least consistent one. 00:34:31.679 --> 00:34:35.599 Well, I love TikTok because it kind of made my career, gave me, gave me that push. 00:34:35.760 --> 00:34:43.280 Um, the way they judge content, they have like quality content, or they it's kind of arbitrary how they decide. 00:34:43.360 --> 00:34:55.440 Yeah, and they'll decide like how many uh how many cents per minute you get paid, whether it's like five cents, sixteen cents, people get fifty cents per per view for per watch, but that's totally kind of up to them. 00:34:55.519 --> 00:34:56.719 I don't I don't have any control over that. 00:34:56.800 --> 00:35:03.280 So I never looked at the the platforms as a way to make money, they were always basically an advertising tool for the live show. 00:35:03.519 --> 00:35:07.199 Wendy, uh one, do you feel like you found your voice? 00:35:07.360 --> 00:35:12.000 And two, uh how did you kind of get into that voice? 00:35:12.320 --> 00:35:24.880 I do feel like I found my voice, and I now what I say is like before I was on a path that I could kind of see and I was kind of emulating certain people, and now I don't even know where the path goes anymore. 00:35:24.960 --> 00:35:28.000 I just every time I take a step, it's like and I don't even know where it's going, and I'm that's good. 00:35:28.079 --> 00:35:28.960 That's a good place to be. 00:35:29.039 --> 00:35:29.280 Yeah. 00:35:29.519 --> 00:35:37.679 And um, you know, I'm talking about people like Bo Burnham or Jamie Foxx or uh Reggie Watts who did music and comedy together. 00:35:38.320 --> 00:35:48.559 Um, you know, uh Little Dicky's another one, uh you know, people like that, and you're just kind of pulling things from each each person and how can I make it part of the show? 00:35:48.719 --> 00:35:53.760 And then the but the crowd work stuff that happened very naturally on my own. 00:35:53.840 --> 00:36:01.039 That was I

was performing at music shows, I was hosting music shows, and before the show would start, I would sing and I would just fuck around with the crowd. 00:36:01.360 --> 00:36:05.280 And I was only doing that because there were no c comedians there. 00:36:05.519 --> 00:36:10.719 It was all music crowd, and like they don't know the difference between a comedy crowd, they don't know what they were seeing. 00:36:10.880 --> 00:36:13.360 They just thought some dude was fucking, and they would kill. 00:36:13.440 --> 00:36:20.320 Yeah, and then people would film it, and you know, when somebody films you, you're either getting your ass beat or you're doing something cool. 00:36:20.480 --> 00:36:20.880 You know what I mean? 00:36:21.119 --> 00:36:21.920 Yeah, that's a good point. 00:36:22.079 --> 00:36:32.800 Yeah, so it's like you're either either getting your ass beat, something going down, or you are doing well, and then I was like, all right, well, they're filming it, and then people would show up to shows, be like, I want you to do that crowd work thing though. 00:36:33.039 --> 00:36:37.039 And then I knew I was on to something because you know if you tell you what's brilliant. 00:36:37.280 --> 00:36:44.400 The and again, super unique, and you know, I I never seen no shit like this before. 00:36:44.719 --> 00:36:55.599 Once you do the, once you incorporated the auto-tune and you're into the crowd, yeah, and they're now also on auto-tune, that is hot. 00:36:55.920 --> 00:37:00.159 It's like it's hilarious because sometimes they know how to use it, sometimes they don't. 00:37:00.239 --> 00:37:05.440 Sometimes that you, you know, just in general, in people, you get somebody fully committed and they doing too much. 00:37:06.400 --> 00:37:09.920 When the chick was chasing you around the theater, bro, I'm just dying laughing. 00:37:10.079 --> 00:37:11.280 Well, you see, like things like that. 00:37:11.360 --> 00:37:19.199 That was the first time that ever happened, but I wrote it down because now it's like I have crowd work bits that I could do at every show. 00:37:19.280 --> 00:37:19.440 Yeah. 00:37:19.519 --> 00:37:21.440 So I could go to somebody and be like, You want to take a photo of me? 00:37:21.519 --> 00:37:22.239 Well, you gotta catch me. 00:37:22.320 --> 00:37:23.679 So I could do that every show from now on. 00:37:24.239 --> 00:37:27.599 And that's a moment, even though it's the same moment, that's a moment for every show. 00:37:28.000 --> 00:37:30.960 And I'm super aware too, like hybrid gets to say, be careful, be careful. 00:37:31.119 --> 00:37:33.519 Oh, yeah, because it's like be careful, like I don't want to die. 00:37:33.760 --> 00:37:35.039 Like she's in flip-flops, yeah. 00:37:36.079 --> 00:37:42.960 Um, but yeah, and then every moment you can re you could replicate it, and then people are like, I w I can't wait to see that happen at this show. 00:37:43.199 --> 00:37:47.760 And and and for comics, we're so stringent on like they've seen this, da-da-da-da-da. 00:37:47.840 --> 00:37:50.000 It's like, but you're in the you're in the hybrid. 00:37:50.159 --> 00:37:57.599 You're you're you're doing music and comedy and a live show and crowd where it's like it's a lot of different stuff hell happening. 00:37:57.760 --> 00:37:59.760 So it's like, nah, I I want to see it. 00:37:59.840 --> 00:38:05.840 Uh one, I want to see it all, and two, I I I kind of need everything to happen so I could be here for it. 00:38:05.920 --> 00:38:07.199 It's like a very unique thing. 00:38:07.360 --> 00:38:09.599 And also the the audience is different, right? 00:38:09.760 --> 00:38:10.320 Every show. 00:38:10.480 --> 00:38:12.719 So for them, it's gonna be different. 00:38:13.039 --> 00:38:15.280 And you know what I mean? 00:38:15.360 --> 00:38:16.639 Like, how do I say it? 00:38:16.719 --> 00:38:18.480 It's just it's like a prank show, right? 00:38:18.559 --> 00:38:22.880 If you watch a prank show, you don't watch the prank show to see who's doing the prank, you watch to see the reaction of the person. 00:38:23.039 --> 00:38:23.280 Right. 00:38:23.440 --> 00:38:29.280 So you don't come to my show to see what I you know what I'm gonna do, but you want to see the person in the seat, like, how are they gonna react? 00:38:29.360 --> 00:38:29.519 Yeah. 00:38:29.679 --> 00:38:31.440 And that's the best part, that's for the best part of the show. 00:38:31.519 --> 00:38:31.679 Yeah. 00:38:31.840 --> 00:38:36.800 What do you think makes your what do you think makes your show different? 00:38:37.039 --> 00:38:38.480 Like, why do people like you? 00:38:38.719 --> 00:38:41.840 I think my show is I'm gonna say the word joy, it's joyful. 00:38:42.000 --> 00:38:42.239 Yeah. 00:38:42.719 --> 00:38:46.639 Um, I don't really talk about race, religion, politics. 00:38:46.960 --> 00:38:48.880 Um, like I said, we're talking about fucking. 00:38:48.960 --> 00:38:50.000 I'm trying to get people to fuck. 00:38:50.880 --> 00:38:54.320 I'm trying to get people to first date kisses, I'm trying to get you know what I mean? 00:38:54.400 --> 00:38:55.280 Like I'm trying to do it as well. 00:38:56.880 --> 00:38:57.280 You know what I mean? 00:38:57.360 --> 00:38:59.760 Like I just posted today. 00:39:00.079 --> 00:39:06.880 I'm trying to get people to make love and feel good and go home and feel warm and and know that they had a good time at the show. 00:39:07.119 --> 00:39:10.480 And I think there's a lot of different types of comedy. 00:39:10.719 --> 00:39:16.880 There's like the type of comedy that speaks, you know, truth to power, and we're gonna make a point with this set. 00:39:17.119 --> 00:39:22.400 And then there's the type of comedy that's like very clever, and it's very witty, you know. 00:39:22.719 --> 00:39:27.760 And then there's like, I don't know, then there's other though, but those are the two that I see, you know. 00:39:28.079 --> 00:39:33.360 And then um, there's a there's a lot of comedy talking about this is who

I am and this is my identity. 00:39:33.599 --> 00:39:33.840 Right. 00:39:33.920 --> 00:39:34.320 Right, right. 00:39:34.880 --> 00:39:38.000 And mine isn't, I don't really, I don't feel like I really do that. 00:39:38.159 --> 00:39:41.280 And it's just like, we know what it is, we're here to have a good time, man. 00:39:41.519 --> 00:39:43.599 It's like people are bringing babies to my show, bro. 00:39:43.760 --> 00:39:44.559 Yeah, it's dope. 00:39:44.719 --> 00:39:53.199 Like, what is you know, I'm talking 10-year-olds are coming to my show, and I'm I'm having a guy grind up on his girl on stage, and I I'll say before the show, I'll be like, just so you know, the show is rated R. 00:39:53.280 --> 00:39:54.800 I have the rated R thing that comes up. 00:39:54.880 --> 00:40:04.719 Like, they don't know what they're gonna get because they only know the the first what I show them, and on top, what's really crazy, this is the best part that I'm I'm grateful for in my career. 00:40:04.880 --> 00:40:09.119 And and the reason, like, because I'm 39 and I've been doing it 19 years. 00:40:09.360 --> 00:40:18.719 Um I have so much music that my fans have no idea about or haven't taken the time to go back and see my catalog. 00:40:18.880 --> 00:40:19.360 Oh, wow. 00:40:19.599 --> 00:40:27.599 That like, you know, last night I did Suspicious as fuck and split the check, which are songs that I've been doing for five or six years, and they don't know. 00:40:27.840 --> 00:40:32.159 Because all they know is the auto tune, but then they see that shit, and that shit still kills, you know what I mean? 00:40:32.320 --> 00:40:32.639 Oh wow. 00:40:32.800 --> 00:40:35.119 So I could be doing these songs for they don't even know, bro. 00:40:35.280 --> 00:40:36.320 But that that's what I want to know. 00:40:36.400 --> 00:40:38.559 What was your introduction to music? 00:40:38.880 --> 00:40:45.840 Yeah, I mean, I was doing piano lessons at like six from six to sixteen, but I just hated the process of of practicing classical piano. 00:40:46.000 --> 00:40:47.360 And was that by choice or did your parents? 00:40:47.679 --> 00:40:49.360 My parents were like, you're gonna play piano. 00:40:49.599 --> 00:40:57.840 And then um, but I just hate my I remember my I had this Russian teacher who was like militant and I had to practice two hours a day. 00:40:57.920 --> 00:41:04.400 And I remember Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 2 just came out on PS2 and I was like, I'm not practicing, I'm playing this video game all week. 00:41:04.880 --> 00:41:09.199 And then I got to my lesson, and then he noticed I didn't practice, and he he like walked out. 00:41:09.280 --> 00:41:10.480 He's like, I'm not teaching you. 00:41:10.719 --> 00:41:14.719 You're wasting your mom's money, you're wasting my time, you're wasting your talent, I'm out of here. 00:41:14.960 --> 00:41:18.400 That's the kind of teacher he did he dipped, he like broke up with me, you know. 00:41:19.440 --> 00:41:20.639 And then uh it's fine. 00:41:20.719 --> 00:41:25.440 Then I did I just started playing the guitar, and then um that's that's how it started. 00:41:25.519 --> 00:41:41.360 I was in choir in in school, I did All State choir, and but I never thought I had like a great voice because I was comparing myself to you know, like singers, but then I learned about tone and about vibe, right? 00:41:41.760 --> 00:41:51.760 You know, like mile while I can't belt like Beyonce, I do have a warm tone in my voice that's relaxing and people like to listen to it, you know what I mean? 00:41:52.239 --> 00:41:57.519 So when was hold on real quick, so then when did the comedy kick in? 00:41:57.840 --> 00:42:02.960 So how did you get from doing music to saying I'm gonna transition into comedy? 00:42:03.360 --> 00:42:06.320 Oh, uh well, I had been watching stand-up for years. 00:42:06.880 --> 00:42:13.840 Premium Blend and John Oliver's show, Hannibal Burris, I think, had a uh a show like that where they on Comedy Central. 00:42:14.079 --> 00:42:19.679 Uh not and I hate to say this, but you know, the first comedy special I saw was Bill Cosby himself. 00:42:20.639 --> 00:42:41.440 And when he was sitting when he was sitting in the chair, and I just you know, describing childbirth and like taking his lip and putting on, he did this whole thing, he was just sitting in a chair for like an hour and a half, and I was like, this is the coolest shit I've ever seen. 00:42:41.679 --> 00:42:49.199 And then um then I would then I just kind of knew I wanted to do it, and then I went I went to NYU and then like day two of NYU, I did an open mic. 00:42:49.280 --> 00:42:50.159 I was like 18. 00:42:50.400 --> 00:42:58.719 But I didn't, but I didn't really start doing it until my second year of college because I was in New York, so I would be doing my acting classes and then at night go to the comedy clubs. 00:42:58.800 --> 00:43:02.960 I'm at a comedy club with some, you know, I'm like 20, 21, I'm making friends. 00:43:03.119 --> 00:43:05.360 My my closest friend at the time is like 41 years old. 00:43:05.440 --> 00:43:07.199 He's like comedians, you know what I mean? 00:43:07.280 --> 00:43:09.360 Like it felt like such a cool thing too, right? 00:43:09.519 --> 00:43:12.400 To be at these clubs, you know, you feel like a superhero kind of. 00:43:12.639 --> 00:43:16.079 Um yeah, man, it was it was it, and that's and that's how that happened. 00:43:16.239 --> 00:43:18.559 But then, but I would always play music on my own. 00:43:18.639 --> 00:43:24.159 I'd sing on my own, I like to sing, and then it wasn't until six years after that I brought the guitar in. 00:43:24.400 --> 00:43:24.639 Wow. 00:43:24.800 --> 00:43:35.360 And I and I and I and I wanted to talk about, touch on that, because sometimes when people see somebody online, they don't know all the years of preparation before someone gets to that point. 00:43:35.519 --> 00:43:35.679 Right. 00:43:35.920 --> 00:43:40.639 So even with me, when people

like, when I did a show called Rush Hour, and they was like, Well, how he booked Rush Hour? 00:43:40.719 --> 00:43:42.880 I'm like, yo, I've been in performance theater. 00:43:42.960 --> 00:43:44.480 I went to a performing arts high school. 00:43:44.559 --> 00:43:47.679 Yeah, I did Shakespeare in the park when I was in middle school. 00:43:48.239 --> 00:43:57.199 Like, there's years and years of acting training that you did before you seen me on CBS, and that's why your whole ass didn't book it. 00:43:58.000 --> 00:43:59.760 But you still like but you said. 00:44:01.039 --> 00:44:01.760 They don't see that work. 00:44:02.000 --> 00:44:02.559 They don't see the work. 00:44:03.280 --> 00:44:10.719 And you see the lack of work in some castings when you see people and you're like, I don't know. 00:44:10.960 --> 00:44:12.880 I mean, there are some people that got it, right? 00:44:13.519 --> 00:44:15.039 You know, Drewski's a good example. 00:44:15.199 --> 00:44:17.920 I mean, I'm seeing him do his sketches, and I'm sure you could plug him into any. 00:44:18.159 --> 00:44:19.760 I feel like any movie is gonna kill it. 00:44:19.840 --> 00:44:20.719 Yeah, today he's ready to go. 00:44:21.039 --> 00:44:22.239 He's ready to go, right? 00:44:22.480 --> 00:44:27.119 But there are some people who they need that training, and you know, it could it shows, you know. 00:44:27.519 --> 00:44:28.159 10,000 hours. 00:44:28.320 --> 00:44:35.199 Even even the minimal, you know, then like when you show up to set, like, know who you are, where you're doing, where you're going, like, where did you just come from? 00:44:35.360 --> 00:44:46.719 Like these are the simple questions that you gotta answer because anybody that's wondering, like, as an actor, as your character, they'll say, like, know who like where your character is coming from and all that type of stuff, like that kind of help you in the scene. 00:44:46.960 --> 00:45:03.199 Yeah, because also if they shoot out of order and you're showing up to a scene where like you just got out of jail and you're showing up at home, but you're you're like just acting normal, it's like no bro, you just you just got off the bus and you're seeing your family after like 10 years, like what is that? 00:45:03.280 --> 00:45:03.920 You know what I mean? 00:45:04.000 --> 00:45:05.280 Like you need to pretend to be that. 00:45:05.360 --> 00:45:06.800 Yeah, and they don't realize that. 00:45:07.119 --> 00:45:17.760 Um was there um was there a show that was like impactful to you, or you felt like you after after doing the show and going home, it's it it stayed with you? 00:45:18.639 --> 00:45:21.039 I don't know if it's one like a show that I performed at. 00:45:21.280 --> 00:45:32.239 Yeah, like a b like a show that you you were headlining or whatnot, and maybe the audience responded in a way that was just different, or you felt like, man, something that you did connect your past funny. 00:45:32.400 --> 00:45:33.920 Well, no, I mean, I'll say this. 00:45:34.000 --> 00:45:37.199 There was the the first time I really bombed was at 20. 00:45:37.440 --> 00:45:40.559 Like there was the the the worst bomb that I ever had. 00:45:40.800 --> 00:45:42.559 I mean, I'm I'm gonna be honest with you, I cried that night. 00:45:42.639 --> 00:45:43.599 My mom told me I was awful. 00:45:43.679 --> 00:45:44.400 She was like, You were awful. 00:45:44.719 --> 00:45:45.119 Sheesh. 00:45:45.440 --> 00:45:46.960 Well, what was tell us about it, yeah? 00:45:47.199 --> 00:45:52.800 So I was like, this was like I was thinking I was like six or seven months into really doing it, and I was doing a bringer show at Caroline's. 00:45:52.960 --> 00:45:56.880 Uh, it was between semesters of school, and I invited co-workers out. 00:45:56.960 --> 00:45:58.480 It was like my mom and my stepdad came. 00:45:58.719 --> 00:45:59.360 Oh, it was that show. 00:45:59.440 --> 00:46:00.079 We brought everybody. 00:46:00.960 --> 00:46:16.320 And I was just and I was just used to uh doing like college rooms and younger crowds, people like me, but I had no experience with like a comedy club that has tourists, that has locals, that has a lot of different types. 00:46:16.480 --> 00:46:22.880 So I I went in my did I did my set, and you know, somebody sighed in the middle of the set, somebody put their head on their hands in the middle of the set. 00:46:23.440 --> 00:46:25.440 And like I had never experienced that before. 00:46:25.679 --> 00:46:36.960 And uh it was like a silent car ride home, you know, 30-40 minutes back home, and the next day my mom was like, We didn't say anything to you because you were pretty bad, you were awful, and uh, you could do better than that, you know. 00:46:37.920 --> 00:46:39.280 There was a hint of encouragement. 00:46:39.519 --> 00:46:40.159 Oh, yeah, a little bit. 00:46:40.400 --> 00:46:49.599 But yeah, but but you know, I pr that I think was really beneficial, and you know, obviously, there probably is a way she could have been like, you know, it takes a lot of courage to go up there and do that. 00:46:49.840 --> 00:46:52.239 I'm sure if you put some more work in it, you could do really well. 00:46:52.400 --> 00:46:52.800 Right. 00:46:53.039 --> 00:46:57.039 Uh so just keep working at it so it doesn't happen again like that, you know? 00:46:57.199 --> 00:46:58.480 Instead of be like, you were awful. 00:46:58.639 --> 00:46:58.800 You know? 00:46:59.280 --> 00:47:00.400 But that but you know your mom. 00:47:00.480 --> 00:47:01.920 It was like you know, you know where she was coming from. 00:47:02.079 --> 00:47:02.880 Yeah, of course, you know. 00:47:02.960 --> 00:47:09.599 She came here, like slept on a floor, like a wood floor, and had a suitcase, you know, eating dirty hot dog water dogs in New York. 00:47:09.679 --> 00:47:11.920 So she had like on the wood floor last night. 00:47:12.800 --> 00:47:25.039 But you know, like not having, you know, she doesn't not that she don't have sympathy for

it, but her struggles were are so intense that like me not doing well in front of a hundred people at a comedy club wasn't like the end of the world in her eyes, you know. 00:47:25.440 --> 00:47:33.280 But then there was the shows that I find the most impactful are the ones that I try something new and it it kills. 00:47:33.519 --> 00:47:38.880 Like I like basically the shows where I stretch myself a little bit into something that I didn't do before. 00:47:39.440 --> 00:47:43.519 And then after those shows, I feel like I'm fucking invigorated. 00:47:43.599 --> 00:47:44.480 Like I'm like, okay. 00:47:44.639 --> 00:47:49.199 And then there are some shows where I mean I'll come off and I just murder and I'll be like, you know what? 00:47:49.280 --> 00:47:50.639 Maybe I am a generational talent. 00:47:53.280 --> 00:48:02.239 And then there's shows where I'm like, am I doing then there's you know, then there's shows like the one in Chicago where I came off and I was like, okay, well, you know, humble yourself, you know? 00:48:02.719 --> 00:48:03.280 And that's good. 00:48:04.079 --> 00:48:04.320 That's good. 00:48:04.719 --> 00:48:13.840 You need them both, you need the you need the pushes of ego to have give you the confidence to keep going, and you need the humbleness to know you keep I need to keep working. 00:48:14.239 --> 00:48:16.320 So you need them both. 00:48:16.480 --> 00:48:20.320 The um, how does uh cha-ching? 00:48:20.639 --> 00:48:24.000 How does um no, it's cacao. 00:48:24.159 --> 00:48:24.320 Yeah. 00:48:24.480 --> 00:48:25.119 I didn't say nothing. 00:48:25.840 --> 00:48:26.320 I ain't done it. 00:48:26.639 --> 00:48:28.159 Cha ching and caca are two different things. 00:48:28.320 --> 00:48:29.360 Yeah, cacaw is very different. 00:48:29.840 --> 00:48:30.880 Same thing, it's bird talk, bro. 00:48:31.440 --> 00:48:32.480 Yeah, it's bird talking. 00:48:32.639 --> 00:48:33.440 He still talk about money. 00:48:34.960 --> 00:48:39.519 How how how um I don't need specific numbers? 00:48:39.840 --> 00:48:44.400 The how is the online finances going? 00:48:44.719 --> 00:48:46.480 I know Touring's probably, I'm assuming, is down. 00:48:46.800 --> 00:48:47.119 It's good, yeah. 00:48:47.360 --> 00:48:49.920 Touring is the number one of the theory. 00:48:50.000 --> 00:49:07.519 Yeah, it does it, does it feel but online wise, because I was like, you know, you wasn't looking at TikTok for the money and stuff, but TikTok, how you know, between that and YouTube and yeah, I would say it goes online, social media, then it go then it's like between brand deals and acting, because the acting work is kind of really slow. 00:49:08.159 --> 00:49:16.000 Um and then after that, no, no, actually it would go, actually I would say it would go touring, then merchandise, then social media. 00:49:16.239 --> 00:49:17.280 Yeah, we should talk merch. 00:49:17.360 --> 00:49:17.519 Yeah. 00:49:17.760 --> 00:49:19.760 Because you just did a a crazy merch release too. 00:49:19.920 --> 00:49:22.400 I've been doing a drop with the I should have worn it, fuck. 00:49:22.559 --> 00:49:41.280 Um but it's like a bundle, I'm signing everything with a thousand, and I'm I'm trying to bring to my merch kind of like the vibe like Supreme has, where we're printing, you know, a thousand of these items, or it's limited edition, and slowly branch out to a clothing brand that, you know, could could exist without me being a comedian, if that makes sense. 00:49:41.519 --> 00:49:41.840 That's right. 00:49:42.320 --> 00:49:46.639 Same way Kevin Hart, you know, has Fabletics or Yeah, you did a I saw a Fabletics? 00:49:46.719 --> 00:49:47.199 That's Kevin's? 00:49:47.280 --> 00:49:48.800 Yeah, Fabletics is Kevin, yeah. 00:49:49.039 --> 00:49:50.159 I never knew that, bro. 00:49:50.320 --> 00:49:50.719 Yeah, yeah. 00:49:51.119 --> 00:49:52.719 He has it somewhat distant from himself. 00:49:52.960 --> 00:49:59.599 Yeah, but I'm saying it's like, so you have enough where you're like, they don't somebody might buy this and they don't even know who who is behind it. 00:49:59.920 --> 00:50:01.199 Damn sure did it with Fabletics. 00:50:01.280 --> 00:50:02.320 Yeah, because I didn't know that. 00:50:02.639 --> 00:50:05.679 Yeah, because why did you do the why'd you do the release in the drop like that? 00:50:05.760 --> 00:50:07.360 The the goofy department drop. 00:50:07.440 --> 00:50:10.639 I saw it, I was like, oh, this is because it's different than anything I've ever sold. 00:50:11.199 --> 00:50:14.239 My face isn't on it, and my name, my name isn't on it. 00:50:14.559 --> 00:50:16.800 For the followers, what exactly is is the merch? 00:50:17.039 --> 00:50:19.519 Um, so it's a mesh, you know, Vic, you know Vic Mensah? 00:50:19.760 --> 00:50:22.639 And he has those videos where he grabs the orange, he's wearing like a mesh jersey. 00:50:23.199 --> 00:50:24.880 We just basically kind of did our own version of that. 00:50:24.960 --> 00:50:33.280 It's a mesh jersey, uh, property of the goofy department, because uh my fans I have this thing that caught on goofy guy, you're a goofy guy, we're gonna be goofy. 00:50:33.519 --> 00:50:35.119 So we're kind of playing on that. 00:50:35.440 --> 00:50:44.960 And then you get a beanie, so the the mesh jersey, uh, a car freshener, and you get like a little kind of backpack gym bag. 00:50:45.119 --> 00:50:46.000 Oh, you get everything they want. 00:50:46.159 --> 00:50:49.920 You got it, yeah, you get it all, you and it's like a little kind of care package. 00:50:50.159 --> 00:50:54.639 And um there's a couple reasons for like the car freshener, just to put you guys on game. 00:50:54.719 --> 00:51:02.719 Car freshener is a really good, super cheap thing that you could sell, or it's like it's like 25 to 50 cents to make a car freshener. 00:51:02.800 --> 00:51:04.239 Like, I got one if you get it. 00:51:04.480 --> 00:51:10.480 So because like as Mossy put it, you're doing mental, you're like playing mental

warfare with your fans, right? 00:51:10.639 --> 00:51:12.960 I want my fans to I always want to be on their mind. 00:51:13.119 --> 00:51:20.400 So if I can have a car freshener of me in their car and they see it all day or somewhere, they're always gonna be thinking about it. 00:51:20.800 --> 00:51:21.199 They're gonna see it. 00:51:21.280 --> 00:51:22.800 Yeah, people and my face is on it. 00:51:23.039 --> 00:51:23.599 Got it, you know? 00:51:23.679 --> 00:51:26.320 Yeah, QR code on it, they're always gonna see it. 00:51:26.480 --> 00:51:30.480 Wow, you know, and it's always there. 00:51:30.800 --> 00:51:43.039 And so that the car freshener is like a must and a very easy thing to even if you're starting out and you're doing you're doing clubs on your own, like you could bring those and just sell them for like a dollar each and still make a profit, you know? 00:51:43.280 --> 00:51:49.119 No matter how smart I think I am, every time we do these episodes shit, yo. 00:51:49.599 --> 00:51:50.719 It's it's so much game. 00:51:51.599 --> 00:51:56.239 I have so many things I could tell you like about how to first of all sell merch, how to drive away. 00:51:56.719 --> 00:51:57.519 We're about to start doing merch. 00:51:57.599 --> 00:51:58.480 So what's okay? 00:51:58.559 --> 00:52:04.480 So if you're doing a live show, or in this case, if you're doing a podcast, do a giveaway, right? 00:52:04.559 --> 00:52:10.400 But the only way you could do it, all the only way you can be part of the giveaway is you have to buy a piece of merch. 00:52:10.639 --> 00:52:14.559 So like at my shows, I used to do I used to give away a guitar at the end of the show. 00:52:14.639 --> 00:52:15.039 Oh wow. 00:52:15.199 --> 00:52:18.880 I would sign the guitar, the guitar was like$100,$200, sign it. 00:52:19.039 --> 00:52:25.519 But in order to enter to win, you'd have to go to the merch table, buy a piece of merch, scan the QR code, and enter to win. 00:52:25.760 --> 00:52:30.880 So not only now have I sold a piece of merch, but I've collected an email address. 00:52:31.760 --> 00:52:32.079 Okay. 00:52:33.280 --> 00:52:34.159 I know, man. 00:52:34.320 --> 00:52:35.039 So it's game. 00:52:35.199 --> 00:52:43.519 So so for two for a hundred or two hundred dollars, I just collected maybe a hundred emails, plus I sold a hundred items of merch. 00:52:44.239 --> 00:52:44.960 You know what I mean? 00:52:45.920 --> 00:52:55.119 And that I feel like that's a small price to pay because the at the bottom of your funnel, now I'm getting to like social media speak, but at the bottom of your funnel is the email list. 00:52:55.199 --> 00:52:55.920 That's the most important thing. 00:52:56.079 --> 00:52:57.440 Now this is super in the weeze. 00:52:57.599 --> 00:52:58.159 Super in the wee. 00:52:58.960 --> 00:53:00.400 This is super in the weeze. 00:53:00.639 --> 00:53:03.760 What website do you use for your email list? 00:53:03.920 --> 00:53:12.960 Because I be seeing when I do my email list,

it appears that most of my emails go to their spam inbox and not necessarily their man. 00:53:13.280 --> 00:53:13.920 You see what I'm saying? 00:53:14.000 --> 00:53:17.039 Like in the So but which which one do you use though? 00:53:17.280 --> 00:53:18.480 I use MailChimp. 00:53:18.559 --> 00:53:21.440 I have about a quarter million people on my mailing list. 00:53:21.760 --> 00:53:28.480 And that's from years of like, if a video goes viral, I know that day I gotta be like, hey, I'm going viral today. 00:53:28.639 --> 00:53:31.599 If you you may not see me again after today, so join my mailing list. 00:53:31.760 --> 00:53:31.840 Right. 00:53:32.000 --> 00:53:36.639 So on the days I go viral, I make sure to put the mailing list there so I can get people on there. 00:53:36.960 --> 00:53:46.960 And then um I use MailChimp, and then when I do send an email, like I don't do newsletters and I don't send like a weekly email. 00:53:47.519 --> 00:53:57.199 I do it for announcing tour dates, uh merch drops, uh special shows, and maybe like a special live stream. 00:53:57.840 --> 00:54:00.719 So I don't even sometimes I don't even do it once a month. 00:54:01.039 --> 00:54:07.199 And when I and on top of that, when I do send an email, the email looks like uh an email you would get from a friend. 00:54:07.280 --> 00:54:11.599 There's no images on it, there's no new like big font. 00:54:11.679 --> 00:54:13.280 It's literally I wonder if I can't. 00:54:13.440 --> 00:54:14.159 I'm doing it all wrong. 00:54:14.559 --> 00:54:16.000 Mine is an image of my face. 00:54:18.480 --> 00:54:26.480 Because look, I I'll show you later, but you gotta the way you gotta come at it is like we're all users, and we're we are also all on mailing lists. 00:54:26.800 --> 00:54:36.159 When I got a a promotional email from you know, recently I've been buying furniture uh from Wayfair, you know, it's like everything. 00:54:36.559 --> 00:54:40.559 10% off, here's all this coupon, it's like images, and it's like get the fuck out of here. 00:54:40.639 --> 00:54:42.239 I don't want to see this shit right now, you know? 00:54:42.880 --> 00:54:47.199 So knowing that about myself, my fan base probably doesn't want to see that either. 00:54:47.360 --> 00:54:54.079 So it's like the subject is like, hey, uh I never done this before, new tickets, and then it's just literally like what's up, friend? 00:54:54.159 --> 00:54:56.320 Here's like it's so minimal. 00:54:56.719 --> 00:54:59.199 You know, because straight to it. 00:54:59.360 --> 00:55:03.840 And if your fans really want to see you, they will buy the ticket. 00:55:04.159 --> 00:55:05.679 And that's kind of it. 00:55:05.920 --> 00:55:07.360 You know, you're not burdening them with the stuff. 00:55:07.440 --> 00:55:08.639 I don't want to burn them with all this stuff. 00:55:09.679 --> 00:55:11.440 You know, it's like and it's easier on you. 00:55:11.679 --> 00:55:13.360 Yeah, like look like here's the link, bro. 00:55:13.440 --> 00:55:14.559

I'm gonna find it for you so you could see. 00:55:14.960 --> 00:55:17.280 Look, look, this is the this is the email that I just sent for the merch drop. 00:55:17.360 --> 00:55:18.320 This is the whole email, look. 00:55:18.480 --> 00:55:19.280 Yeah, that's what I was saying. 00:55:19.440 --> 00:55:21.519 It looks like it's a regular email. 00:55:21.679 --> 00:55:22.239 Yeah. 00:55:22.960 --> 00:55:26.800 It's just like I mean, just look like a regular email instead of That's all it is, bro. 00:55:26.960 --> 00:55:29.360 Y'all been asking how can y'all support killing it? 00:55:29.440 --> 00:55:30.800 Well, we got an answer for you. 00:55:30.960 --> 00:55:31.440 We got one. 00:55:31.599 --> 00:55:32.159 Cash app. 00:55:32.480 --> 00:55:32.719 Boom. 00:55:32.960 --> 00:55:37.119 We are independently produced right now, and we're paying for this to give y'all a great show every week. 00:55:37.280 --> 00:55:38.719 Y'all be asking about a Patreon. 00:55:38.880 --> 00:55:40.480 You don't even have to, this ain't even much money. 00:55:41.119 --> 00:55:42.480 Just go put something in there right now. 00:55:42.800 --> 00:55:45.519 You should look at us like a collection plate at church. 00:55:45.599 --> 00:55:46.480 We digitally pass. 00:55:48.639 --> 00:55:49.519 And with your help. 00:55:49.679 --> 00:55:52.800 And with your help, you can feed three Negroes. 00:55:53.119 --> 00:55:55.199 I got a fly on my forehead right now. 00:55:55.440 --> 00:55:56.239 It's right there on the screen. 00:55:56.320 --> 00:55:59.760 You see, cash app killing it pod if you want to support. 00:56:00.079 --> 00:56:03.920 One of the things I also learned was that you want somebody to be able to. 00:56:04.000 --> 00:56:04.400 Oh wow. 00:56:04.559 --> 00:56:05.599 That's all it is, yeah. 00:56:05.840 --> 00:56:15.920 You like assume the person getting this is the email is arriving to them while they're on a toilet in the car, or they're in motion. 00:56:16.159 --> 00:56:23.599 So you want an email that's short enough and quick enough that they could they don't have to scroll, or it's like, all right, there's that's all the information I need. 00:56:23.760 --> 00:56:24.559 On one page, on one screen. 00:56:24.719 --> 00:56:25.440 On one screen. 00:56:25.599 --> 00:56:28.639 Because like I learned that from like sending decks and pitches, right? 00:56:28.719 --> 00:56:32.559 Like a lot of executives they won't really read all the font in a deck. 00:56:32.719 --> 00:56:35.920 So you want a deck to be this is something else, this is on a different part of the show. 00:56:36.159 --> 00:56:36.880 That's what I was about to get to. 00:56:37.119 --> 00:56:38.800 Yeah, but you want to be talking about for TV shows. 00:56:38.960 --> 00:56:44.400 Yeah, you want the deck to be like something they could look at in their car and just see like images and shit, you know. 00:56:45.039 --> 00:56:48.239 When it comes to where you're at right now, because I'm damn I should be a consultant, bro.

00:56:49.440 --> 00:56:50.960 I didn't I didn't realize how much I know, you know. 00:56:51.199 --> 00:56:53.599 Yeah, you can't where you're at right now. 00:56:53.679 --> 00:57:00.079 I I feel like Hollywood kind of almost like dropped the ball when it comes to like rising talent right now. 00:57:00.159 --> 00:57:05.039 Like, I almost feel like if this was the 90s or early 2000s, you would already have your sitcom. 00:57:05.280 --> 00:57:05.760 Yeah, I agree. 00:57:05.840 --> 00:57:18.960 Yeah, I mean, because like in the 90s, they were still having those showcase shows, and on the showcase shows, they had musicians, they had uh ventriloquists, they had magicians, they were all they were all on the same lineup. 00:57:19.039 --> 00:57:26.000 Like in, you know, I'm talking the 90s, like when Jim Carrey was doing Night at the Improv, like all these people were doing the same, we're on there. 00:57:26.159 --> 00:57:31.039 But I don't know what happened where like you said, all of a sudden it was just comedy, comedy, comedy, comedy, comedy. 00:57:31.360 --> 00:57:34.559 Yeah, and so how are you finding the process now? 00:57:34.719 --> 00:57:38.639 Because I know you said you're working on a show, you got something in development right now. 00:57:38.800 --> 00:57:40.239 How are you seeing that process? 00:57:40.400 --> 00:57:42.400 Do you feel like it's it's going well? 00:57:42.480 --> 00:57:45.920 Do you feel like it's kind of taking the is a little slow? 00:57:46.559 --> 00:57:50.480 Yeah, the process is slow, and it's a new process for me. 00:57:50.639 --> 00:57:53.039 Um I'm working with Sarita Singleton. 00:57:53.360 --> 00:57:56.639 Sarita did uh Rap Shit and she did one of one of them days. 00:57:57.039 --> 00:57:57.360 Oh, nice. 00:57:57.599 --> 00:58:15.519 And she's my showrunner, and uh so we've been meeting and working on the the pitch and the pilot, and um that process has been has been a really uh eye-opening process because a lot of stuff I don't know, and there's a lot of stuff I do know, and um we haven't gotten to the pitches yet. 00:58:16.239 --> 00:58:18.000 Okay, you haven't work yet. 00:58:18.239 --> 00:58:18.639 Right, exactly. 00:58:18.719 --> 00:58:42.960 So I pitched to like the production houses like A24 and you know Adam Sandler's company and these different places, and then A24 and this other production company cut to gave me a deal, and then we went out and found a showrunner, which is Sarita, and now Sarita and I are developing the show, and then we will bring that to like Netflix and FX and Hulu and where wherever, Amazon, and and we'll see if anybody bites. 00:58:43.280 --> 00:59:03.519 But to go back to the process, the process is slow, but one of the things I'm really grateful for is that because it took me so long to get I don't even want to say get discovered or make a name for myself, and because I my touring is so strong the pro I can have fun with the TV show process. 00:59:03.679 --> 00:59:12.400 I can't it's not like make or break for me, and that's a wonderful thing, and I could really just make a show that I want to I want to watch. 00:59:13.360 --> 00:59:19.119 And if it doesn't go, then that's okay, and I'll be able to let go of that. 00:59:19.360 --> 00:59:21.440 But if it does, then great, you know what I mean? 00:59:21.599 --> 00:59:21.840 Right. 00:59:21.920 --> 00:59:22.159 Yeah. 00:59:22.320 --> 00:59:23.760 Um, so that's where it is. 00:59:23.840 --> 00:59:25.920 But I'm gonna I'm in a lucky I'm in a good position for that. 00:59:26.480 --> 00:59:33.039 How is uh you're you're moving uh and doing uh substantially more streaming now with the live stream. 00:59:33.199 --> 00:59:34.719 Uh how how is that going? 00:59:34.880 --> 00:59:37.599 Do you do you know how you wanna approach it yet? 00:59:37.679 --> 00:59:39.920 Because I feel like you're having fun right now, you're gaming and stuff. 00:59:40.079 --> 00:59:47.920 Yeah, it's it's hard because I really believe I was telling them before you got here, I was like, yeah, I would see BT online at three in the morning playing Call of Duty. 00:59:48.000 --> 00:59:49.280 Yeah, like he just got on. 00:59:52.400 --> 01:00:10.960 But it's so clear to me that that is kind of like the future of what's going on, and I'm I want to find a way to do it right because obviously on Kick, for example, which is one of the platforms, there's a lot of streamers that are doing like, and I'm gonna say men who are doing like uh shock content. 01:00:11.280 --> 01:00:14.159 There's a lot of like pickup artists streaming. 01:00:14.320 --> 01:00:22.320 I mean, there was a photo of a house party in LA where everybody at the house party was they were all streaming the party. 01:00:22.480 --> 01:00:25.039 Yeah, and like I'm like nobody was partying. 01:00:25.199 --> 01:00:25.840 What the fuck? 01:00:26.000 --> 01:00:30.159 You know, and they're just trying to make content out of all these moments, and I get that. 01:00:30.400 --> 01:00:32.960 I think there's a way where you can curate it. 01:00:33.119 --> 01:00:36.880 Like on this stream, we are gonna go whatever, skydiving. 01:00:36.960 --> 01:00:44.000 I'm not really gonna do that, but you know, you pick like certain things you're gonna do and but just have a lot the same way like Anthony Burdain had a travel show. 01:00:44.159 --> 01:00:47.039 Yeah, like why not have a travel streaming show? 01:00:47.199 --> 01:00:55.679 Like today we're in we're in Cambodia, we are gonna be I mean, Speed is doing that, yeah, right where he's going city to city, country to country, and he's doing different things in every country. 01:00:55.840 --> 01:00:56.239 Right. 01:00:56.480 --> 01:00:58.719 And essentially it's a travel show, yeah. 01:00:58.960 --> 01:01:03.119 It's just like an unpolished travel show, and that's it, you know. 01:01:03.840 --> 01:01:05.519 Um, but I'm still figuring out how to do it. 01:01:05.599 --> 01:01:11.599 You know, the thing is my my touring

schedule is so crazy, so if I'm in another city, I'll be stream your your tour. 01:01:11.760 --> 01:01:13.280 I know you like shit. 01:01:13.440 --> 01:01:17.039 I would love to stream every live show, but I I I guess I wonder if it would be too much. 01:01:17.519 --> 01:01:21.679 Well, not even the show, but your travels like you know we vlog it. 01:01:22.000 --> 01:01:28.639 Okay, we vlog it, but in order to stream it, also it's like my show is very vocally taxing. 01:01:28.800 --> 01:01:29.039 Uh oh. 01:01:29.920 --> 01:01:30.400 Oh yeah. 01:01:30.800 --> 01:01:35.760 So to stream, I feel you to travel, to get to do the show, like a lot of talking before. 01:01:35.920 --> 01:01:37.679 It's a lot of talking, so I gotta kinda chill. 01:01:37.840 --> 01:01:42.800 So that's the only way to say I'd like to, but unless my schedule gets a little bit easier, maybe you know. 01:01:43.119 --> 01:01:46.880 I I love that you uh exp explain to me the scheduling idea. 01:01:46.960 --> 01:01:48.800 Do you do this all the time where you take the time off? 01:01:48.960 --> 01:01:50.239 Because comics don't do that enough. 01:01:50.480 --> 01:01:51.760 What do you mean, like take a couple months off? 01:01:51.840 --> 01:01:54.719 Yeah, it's like you gave yourself a break in between the days. 01:01:54.800 --> 01:01:56.239 Some people just be going and going and going and going. 01:01:56.480 --> 01:01:57.599 Yeah, there's a couple of reasons like that. 01:01:57.679 --> 01:02:00.400 Like for summertime, people don't buy as many tickets. 01:02:00.719 --> 01:02:04.079 Uh it's hot out, people want to barbecue and grill and be by the pool. 01:02:04.159 --> 01:02:04.400 Yeah. 01:02:04.559 --> 01:02:05.360 So 8 a.m. 01:02:05.599 --> 01:02:06.159 eight 8 p.m. 01:02:06.320 --> 01:02:06.800 the sun is setting. 01:02:07.119 --> 01:02:13.280 They're not gonna they're not gonna want to be at a they're not gonna want to get to a venue at six o'clock when they can still be outside kicking it with their kids or something, you know. 01:02:13.760 --> 01:02:16.159 And then winter time, it's too cold. 01:02:16.239 --> 01:02:21.119 Sometimes flights get canceled, and like the the dead of winter, it's a little bit tough. 01:02:21.199 --> 01:02:24.320 So I usually tour between in the spring and the fall. 01:02:24.559 --> 01:02:32.960 And um, and in both in the north and the south of the hemisphere, like it's both transitional time periods. 01:02:33.039 --> 01:02:41.199 So you're less likely to hit a weather problem, and you're more likely to sell tickets in that way. 01:02:41.519 --> 01:02:45.039 Do you feel like how how far are you're a genius. 01:02:45.119 --> 01:02:52.639 Yeah, I mean, it's but I mean when you really think about it, it's kind of like logical, like common sense type of stuff. 01:02:53.039 --> 01:02:53.760 You're younger than me. 01:02:53.840 --> 01:02:56.880 It's rare that I see somebody younger than me, I'm like, this motherfucker got it. 01:02:57.840 --> 01:03:07.199 But a lot of but a lot of shit I learned from like trial and error, like when I did Europe the first time alone, it was like city, city, city travel days. 01:03:07.360 --> 01:03:12.639 Like I had travel days, tour dates in the same day, and I just I can't do, I'm not gonna do this ever again. 01:03:12.880 --> 01:03:24.480 So now when I do it, book a tour like in Europe or Asia or Australia, I book like two or three or even four days in a city because I'm like, you know, I the way I picture it is like this, I may never come here again. 01:03:24.800 --> 01:03:38.480 So I just you I go there and I'm like, you know, I'm gonna just enjoy myself and I'm gonna stay in a nice hotel, and um, you know, I may make less money from this, but for the overseas stuff, it's not even about getting the bag. 01:03:39.039 --> 01:03:39.519 You know what I mean? 01:03:39.599 --> 01:03:41.519 It's like, let me just enjoy with my friends and have a good time. 01:03:41.679 --> 01:03:42.159 Yeah, live some life. 01:03:42.320 --> 01:03:47.760 Yeah, I was gonna go I'll go ask that too, like uh, because you do you probably travel more internationally than than most comics do. 01:03:47.920 --> 01:03:48.079 Yeah. 01:03:48.239 --> 01:03:52.960 Uh a lot of it being within the the you know the comedy music musical element. 01:03:53.519 --> 01:03:54.960 Uh was that always a thing? 01:03:55.119 --> 01:03:56.719 Did it did it increase more after? 01:03:57.280 --> 01:04:01.920 Yeah, after the that video went viral, and then I had a couple more viral videos, a couple more viral videos. 01:04:02.159 --> 01:04:16.639 The ticket sales were just like we my show and promoters would say like we've never seen uh audience members buy this way, like in this pattern. 01:04:17.440 --> 01:04:22.400 Like pre-sale would sell out all my tickets would sell out in presale immediately. 01:04:22.719 --> 01:04:24.800 Uh I'm talking like 10 minutes to 30 minutes. 01:04:24.880 --> 01:04:29.280 Like my show, my first show at the Greek theater sold out in an in an hour in presale. 01:04:29.920 --> 01:04:32.000 Second show sold out in like three hours. 01:04:32.880 --> 01:04:38.719 Um and it was just about like creating a certain level of hype, and maybe I had a lot of videos going viral at the time. 01:04:38.800 --> 01:04:39.440 Yeah. 01:04:39.760 --> 01:04:43.519 Um and now, wait, where was I going with this? 01:04:43.679 --> 01:04:45.519 We were talking about international um. 01:04:46.159 --> 01:04:46.559 Oh, yeah. 01:04:46.880 --> 01:04:48.400 They never told me like this. 01:04:48.639 --> 01:04:56.559 Yeah, and also my show is the only show that sells aisles first and front row seats first. 01:04:56.960 --> 01:04:58.559 Like people normally you go to my show. 01:05:01.519 --> 01:05:04.559 So they were like, I'm so tired of this, man. 01:05:04.639 --> 01:05:06.719 This is overwhelming. 01:05:06.800 --> 01:05:08.719 This is like the show is great, man. 01:05:09.280 --> 01:05:11.280 It's like

this is they were like, his show is weird. 01:05:11.360 --> 01:05:21.679 It's like he's selling all the aisles, and like even some of the back seats sell sold first because they're cheaper, and sometimes I start from the back of the room. 01:05:21.840 --> 01:05:22.320 Yeah, I think it's a good thing. 01:05:23.280 --> 01:05:33.440 What I like about the show, man, is the fact that and I I what's dope about it is the fact that people come to a show and it's not just laughs. 01:05:33.679 --> 01:05:34.719 It's you know what it is? 01:05:35.039 --> 01:05:39.840 I think, and it's just my humble opinion, I think it's really the experience. 01:05:39.920 --> 01:05:41.360 It's like going to a good restaurant. 01:05:41.519 --> 01:05:44.960 It's more than just the steak, it's how they greet you when you come in. 01:05:45.039 --> 01:05:47.440 It's them coming by and the vibe. 01:05:47.599 --> 01:05:58.639 Like, I remember I remember um I forgot the guy's name, but he he's the guy who um he goes around the country helping bars. 01:05:58.800 --> 01:06:01.599 Um Right. 01:06:01.679 --> 01:06:07.199 And just the fact that he talks about knowing how to offer them something free the first time, then they come back in. 01:06:08.000 --> 01:06:10.559 Bro, it's like it cost me less to do that. 01:06:10.800 --> 01:06:11.440 Have them come in. 01:06:11.519 --> 01:06:12.960 Let me get you a disc uh free dessert. 01:06:13.440 --> 01:06:14.400 What exactly does it do? 01:06:14.639 --> 01:06:22.239 So instead you he said something like to have uh to have a person come back, you gotta spend at minimum like$1,100 in advertising or something. 01:06:22.320 --> 01:06:23.679 It was some crazy high number. 01:06:23.920 --> 01:06:27.440 He said, What I could do, I'll have somebody come in for the first time. 01:06:27.599 --> 01:06:30.960 I'll give them a dessert on the house or something on the house. 01:06:31.039 --> 01:06:32.159 I'd be like, here's my card. 01:06:32.320 --> 01:06:36.320 And once you come back, they'll come back a second time and he goes, you know what? 01:06:36.400 --> 01:06:38.159 Let me uh well thanks for coming back. 01:06:38.239 --> 01:06:39.360 I'm glad you came back. 01:06:39.519 --> 01:06:42.320 Let me get you uh something else on the house or something like that. 01:06:42.400 --> 01:06:42.800 Yeah. 01:06:43.039 --> 01:06:46.480 By that point, they're like a customer forever, regardless of the food. 01:06:46.559 --> 01:06:56.719 The vibe is good, they were treated well, and it probably cost him like 20 or 30 bucks to do that, but that customer will always come back and spend money. 01:06:56.960 --> 01:07:02.000 That experience of the food's good, you give them uh something something they never had before. 01:07:03.360 --> 01:07:10.079 Oh, and the last thing I'll say about the experience of my show, I try to treat it like Disneyland or Universal Studios. 01:07:10.239 --> 01:07:14.800 So the ride starts when you walk into the like when you walk into the venue.

01:07:14.880 --> 01:07:17.840 Like there's there's previews, there's silly shit on the screen. 01:07:18.000 --> 01:07:18.480 Oh, yeah. 01:07:19.039 --> 01:07:21.119 There's QR codes that you can interact with. 01:07:21.360 --> 01:07:23.039 You know, I curate the playlist. 01:07:23.280 --> 01:07:32.000 I have been asked, bro, I was one time at a show, I was listening to the people who are running sound, and I heard them, they were like, man, this is a great playlist, bro. 01:07:32.079 --> 01:07:33.199 Like, I'm so glad he brought it. 01:07:33.360 --> 01:07:35.840 We never know what to play, and this guy brought some really good music to play. 01:07:36.000 --> 01:07:38.639 So I curate the playlist to create vibes. 01:07:38.960 --> 01:07:42.559 Um, and I and I always tell him play it loud. 01:07:42.800 --> 01:07:45.840 I want it to be like you can't, it's like hard to hear. 01:07:46.079 --> 01:07:50.159 I want it loud and I want, you know, so you're already making the vibe fun and exciting. 01:07:50.320 --> 01:07:50.719 You know what I mean? 01:07:51.039 --> 01:07:52.559 Oh man, I'm just I'm so inspired. 01:07:53.039 --> 01:07:53.360 You know? 01:07:54.719 --> 01:07:59.119 I wanna I'm gonna ask a question and then I'm uh I have a follow-up because it's really close to it. 01:07:59.360 --> 01:08:02.400 What is your relationship like with music specifically? 01:08:02.880 --> 01:08:04.880 Yeah, I mean, I I love music, man. 01:08:05.039 --> 01:08:12.960 I listen, you know, it's funny, uh when I was doing stand-up, I would listen to a lot of podcasts, and now I do mostly music and I have a band. 01:08:13.119 --> 01:08:17.520 I listen to a lot of music and I'm trying to get different flavors for the show. 01:08:18.079 --> 01:08:22.399 And I I will say I'm not someone who listens to an album start to finish. 01:08:22.640 --> 01:08:24.960 I think a lot of people who listen to music are like that now. 01:08:25.039 --> 01:08:29.119 They listen to singles and they don't go through to see the whole album from start to finish. 01:08:29.600 --> 01:08:33.840 Um but yeah, I'm always looking for new music and new artists. 01:08:33.920 --> 01:08:34.479 Okay, you know. 01:08:34.800 --> 01:08:45.600 The reason I ask is because how, in the essence of scaling, how far removed do you feel like you are from doing music like festivals? 01:08:45.760 --> 01:08:47.279 Like, we're already pitching. 01:08:47.439 --> 01:08:49.119 Yeah, we're already pitching that stuff. 01:08:49.279 --> 01:08:51.119 Yeah, they're pitching me for Coachella. 01:08:51.439 --> 01:08:52.960 Absolutely, they fucking should. 01:08:55.279 --> 01:08:56.800 That makes perfect sense in the world. 01:08:56.960 --> 01:08:58.640 I'm not saying I'm gonna get it, but they're already pitching me for it. 01:08:59.199 --> 01:08:59.840 Yeah, they're gonna get it. 01:09:00.000 --> 01:09:00.720 Come on, man, this is great. 01:09:00.960 --> 01:09:11.279 Cause like Rolling Lau, Coachella, I was like, no, this makes all

the sense in the world because you're all the elements are there, and and and the audience is gonna be so excited to see you. 01:09:11.760 --> 01:09:19.680 When we when we started using, when I started using the band, I was like, oh, this show can be bigger than it could be in both types of venues. 01:09:19.920 --> 01:09:22.319 Real quick, uh th these are band members that you already knew. 01:09:22.479 --> 01:09:23.359 You guys played together before. 01:09:23.680 --> 01:09:34.800 Uh I had done a show with Pink Fox, who was doing a music show, and I met her band leader, and then I hit him up and I was like, Would you want to come just do a little show in Venice? 01:09:35.359 --> 01:09:46.479 And he organized the band, and then I did like, I think I did Netflix as a joke, outdoors at the Palladium, and like two and a half thousand people showed up and it was outdoors of a music thing. 01:09:46.560 --> 01:09:48.800 It was just me and a piano player, but it was crazy. 01:09:49.279 --> 01:09:55.359 And then we were like, okay, this this can be where there's potential for this to be even bigger than we think. 01:09:55.840 --> 01:10:03.039 And then um now that I have the band and I have footage of the band, we put a sizzle together and we're just pitching it to different festivals. 01:10:03.199 --> 01:10:03.279 Okay. 01:10:03.520 --> 01:10:12.640 So you can go back to are you are you doing the the venues that I'm looking at are uh I can't tell, but I know they're bigger than traditional theaters. 01:10:12.800 --> 01:10:16.000 So it is you gotta be three, four thousand plus. 01:10:16.079 --> 01:10:19.279 Yeah, I'm I'm looking at the uh I know the scale of the crowd. 01:10:19.520 --> 01:10:24.800 Where are we as far as like amphitheaters and maybe arenas and how do you does it feel far away? 01:10:25.039 --> 01:10:27.119 No, my first arena's on the calendar already. 01:10:27.359 --> 01:10:28.560 Bro, that's what I was just saying. 01:10:28.880 --> 01:10:32.479 I was like, you I said we're talking to you right before your arena phase. 01:10:32.640 --> 01:10:33.520 Yeah, it's not here. 01:10:33.760 --> 01:10:38.079 Yeah, my first arena, well, my my so I did my first half arena. 01:10:38.159 --> 01:10:40.640 It was in Houston and Dallas and Coca-Cola? 01:10:41.680 --> 01:10:43.279 I did uh Sugarland, Texas. 01:10:43.439 --> 01:10:43.600 Yeah. 01:10:43.840 --> 01:10:45.359 That was about six and a half thousand. 01:10:45.680 --> 01:10:47.279 And then Dallas was like five thousand. 01:10:47.520 --> 01:10:49.600 That's Coca Coca-Cola, the amphitheater? 01:10:49.840 --> 01:10:50.479 I don't even remember. 01:10:50.640 --> 01:10:51.520 Maybe I don't remember. 01:10:51.600 --> 01:10:56.319 And then uh Sydney, Australia, I'm doing eight thousand. 01:10:56.880 --> 01:10:58.960 And that's uh that show is just about sold out. 01:10:59.279 --> 01:11:05.359 That's actually because the original venue I booked was 1900 and it sold out in like 10 minutes. 01:11:05.680 --> 01:11:09.840 So they were the promoters were like, hey, why don't we do that? 01:11:10.000 --> 01:11:10.880 Why don't we try this out? 01:11:11.119 --> 01:11:16.720 And then uh because it was we're like, we were like eight months out to the show, and the show sold out. 01:11:16.960 --> 01:11:18.399 So I was like, we put we put that out. 01:11:18.640 --> 01:11:20.319 Is it what it what what it constitutes an arena? 01:11:20.399 --> 01:11:21.119 Like how big is an arena? 01:11:21.279 --> 01:11:23.119 Oh man, I just found out 8,000. 01:11:23.359 --> 01:11:24.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 01:11:24.079 --> 01:11:32.880 So I I because uh I I was doing uh shows with Nate and we was doing theaters, and I saw we he started doing two theater shows. 01:11:33.119 --> 01:11:43.520 Then then it scaled to like bigger theaters, and then when we went to Dallas, that that Coca-Cola, I want to say, if they don't open outside, just think about an outdoor space? 01:11:43.680 --> 01:11:44.560 It's an indoor outdoor. 01:11:44.640 --> 01:11:46.319 Oh I should indoor indoor. 01:11:46.479 --> 01:11:49.439 Yeah, so this but indoor indoor, it's like 55. 01:11:49.520 --> 01:11:55.439 Yeah and I I walked in, I was like, hey bro, uh this is not a this ain't the truth the theaters we've been in. 01:11:55.600 --> 01:11:57.119 I'll say something changing algorithm. 01:11:57.199 --> 01:11:58.239 That's why I actually, you know what I mean? 01:11:58.319 --> 01:12:01.920 And I was like, I'll say I say Arena, it could be according to Chat GPT. 01:12:02.000 --> 01:12:02.239 Yeah, yeah. 01:12:02.560 --> 01:12:05.039 Anywhere between five to twenty thousand seats. 01:12:05.119 --> 01:12:06.319 So I'm already in that phase then. 01:12:06.399 --> 01:12:09.760 Yeah, uh we gotta congratulate that, man. 01:12:10.239 --> 01:12:12.159 We're dropping bringing the gunshots back in the box. 01:12:13.119 --> 01:12:14.159 We gotta get some gun shots. 01:12:15.199 --> 01:12:19.359 You know, last November we found out that I could sell out MSG. 01:12:20.000 --> 01:12:24.159 Because I was doing New York and I had was doing the Beacon Theater. 01:12:24.560 --> 01:12:29.520 And when the tickets for Beacon Theater went on sale, there was like 20,000 people in the queue. 01:12:29.920 --> 01:12:33.520 So the the Beacon Theater shows sold out immediately. 01:12:33.680 --> 01:12:38.960 We added a show in Brooklyn at the King's Theater, we added a show in Newark at the NJ Pack Center. 01:12:39.119 --> 01:12:42.159 I'd already two, I already had two sold-out shows in Atlantic City. 01:12:42.479 --> 01:12:48.159 So in the tri-state area, I had our I had sold like 15,000 tickets or something like that. 01:12:48.640 --> 01:12:56.960 And so, but my show, I wasn't ready to do MSG, and I think the goal is to do it uh at the end of 2027. 01:12:57.199 --> 01:13:04.319 Assuming, and I'm always trying to stay humble about it, if I got motion, I know I'm always gonna be able to sell tickets, but you know, sometimes you're

hot and you're like in an upstream. 01:13:04.800 --> 01:13:05.920 Your motion ain't going nowhere, bro. 01:13:06.239 --> 01:13:06.800 Well, I appreciate that. 01:13:07.119 --> 01:13:10.560 No, the show, the show's bro, the show's too unique, it's too different. 01:13:10.960 --> 01:13:16.960 It's it's and and and the let me let me give you some also some some roses. 01:13:17.359 --> 01:13:18.560 You're also too creative. 01:13:18.720 --> 01:13:23.199 So it's like let's not get it twisted for the audience that that does not know. 01:13:23.359 --> 01:13:27.039 You were destroying the the rooms, and this is this is pre-all this shit. 01:13:27.279 --> 01:13:28.560 You did the we was in comedy clubs. 01:13:28.720 --> 01:13:29.439 I was like, it was. 01:13:29.600 --> 01:13:35.920 It was like, he was killing the shows, it was you and the guitar, it was some crowd work, but the songs were already amazing. 01:13:36.079 --> 01:13:42.640 So now, once we start, once you go scale on songs, scale on show, and you're figuring all this out in real time. 01:13:42.720 --> 01:13:45.600 Oh shit, if I go out, oh wait, what if I put the auto tune on me? 01:13:45.680 --> 01:13:47.279 What if I put the auto-tune on me in there? 01:13:47.600 --> 01:13:50.239 It's like, it's like as you know I mean, it's it starts changing. 01:13:50.479 --> 01:14:00.159 Bro, I'm having meetings this week with lighting designers, yeah, and we're gonna have a whole fucking, I'm gonna have I'm gonna have Pyro and Crow Steam and Bucket. 01:14:02.319 --> 01:14:03.199 I'm gonna have a drone show. 01:14:03.520 --> 01:14:05.039 Yeah, dragon. 01:14:06.880 --> 01:14:08.079 All right, go ahead, man. 01:14:08.560 --> 01:14:08.960 Do your thing. 01:14:09.279 --> 01:14:10.159 We got a game on this show. 01:14:10.479 --> 01:14:11.119 Too excited, man. 01:14:11.359 --> 01:14:12.880 Called Kill It or Let Live. 01:14:13.039 --> 01:14:13.920 Kill it or let live. 01:14:14.000 --> 01:14:15.039 I'm gonna throw out a topic. 01:14:15.119 --> 01:14:17.439 If you mess with the topic, you're gonna say let it live. 01:14:17.520 --> 01:14:20.399 But if you don't mess with the topic, you're gonna say kill it. 01:14:20.640 --> 01:14:20.800 Okay. 01:14:21.359 --> 01:14:23.279 Kill it or let live. 01:14:24.479 --> 01:14:28.319 Letting your girlfriend blow another man's trumpet. 01:14:30.159 --> 01:14:31.680 Oh, like stuck in this dick? 01:14:31.840 --> 01:14:37.279 I mean, whatever did say the trumpet is. 01:14:37.600 --> 01:14:38.159 I don't know. 01:14:38.399 --> 01:14:39.279 I don't know. 01:14:39.600 --> 01:14:43.039 So I'm gonna let it live because I'm in an open relationship. 01:14:43.439 --> 01:14:45.359 So my girl can do what she wants to do. 01:14:45.520 --> 01:14:47.279 Damn, that's a whole other topic. 01:14:47.680 --> 01:14:48.319 Can you call my wife? 01:14:48.479 --> 01:14:50.560 Can you can you put in a comment? 01:14:50.880 --> 01:14:54.720 I wouldn't, I wouldn't put it in those type of terms, but my she is free to do what she wants to do. 01:14:54.880 --> 01:14:55.199 Okay. 01:14:55.680 --> 01:15:00.880 Somebody who travels 200 days of the year and I'm not home, it's like it's not unfair, you know what I mean? 01:15:00.960 --> 01:15:01.119 Yeah. 01:15:01.279 --> 01:15:01.840 He's a good man. 01:15:02.159 --> 01:15:02.319 Okay. 01:15:03.279 --> 01:15:04.880 Kill it or let live. 01:15:05.439 --> 01:15:09.279 People that travel with emotional support animals on planes. 01:15:10.640 --> 01:15:11.439 Kill it. 01:15:12.239 --> 01:15:12.880 Yeah. 01:15:13.520 --> 01:15:14.800 Well, you said on trains? 01:15:14.960 --> 01:15:15.359 Planes. 01:15:15.520 --> 01:15:15.840 On planes. 01:15:16.079 --> 01:15:16.800 Did I say trains? 01:15:17.039 --> 01:15:17.279 Planes. 01:15:18.079 --> 01:15:19.039 I meant planes, though. 01:15:19.119 --> 01:15:21.119 No, all uh kill it except for dogs. 01:15:21.279 --> 01:15:22.159 Kill it except for dogs. 01:15:23.119 --> 01:15:23.920 That's how you keep your fan base. 01:15:24.560 --> 01:15:25.279 Kill it except for dogs. 01:15:25.439 --> 01:15:25.680 Yeah, yeah. 01:15:26.399 --> 01:15:29.760 But don't be bringing like a emotional iguana support supporter. 01:15:31.600 --> 01:15:32.880 All right, I got two more. 01:15:33.119 --> 01:15:34.800 Kill it or let live. 01:15:35.039 --> 01:15:40.399 People playing instruments in public spaces without being requested to. 01:15:41.359 --> 01:15:43.039 Um let it live. 01:15:43.199 --> 01:15:43.920 Let it live. 01:15:44.079 --> 01:15:44.479 All right. 01:15:44.800 --> 01:15:47.039 Because some of them are amazing. 01:15:47.199 --> 01:15:47.359 Yeah. 01:15:47.600 --> 01:15:48.079 That's a fact. 01:15:48.800 --> 01:15:50.399 Then they're making they're making money too. 01:15:50.880 --> 01:15:53.680 Last one, kill it or let live. 01:15:54.239 --> 01:15:59.920 You are the biggest musicianslash comedian to ever live. 01:16:00.319 --> 01:16:05.680 But in order for you to accomplish this, you gotta hook up with your favorite cousin. 01:16:07.279 --> 01:16:09.920 Oh shit, that's crazy. 01:16:10.800 --> 01:16:11.920 With the hair scratch. 01:16:16.239 --> 01:16:17.439 But you're the biggest. 01:16:17.600 --> 01:16:18.560 We I'm the biggest. 01:16:18.640 --> 01:16:19.439 No, we can kill it. 01:16:19.680 --> 01:16:19.920 Okay. 01:16:20.239 --> 01:16:22.560 No, I don't gotta be the biggest. 01:16:23.359 --> 01:16:24.239 I don't gotta be the biggest. 01:16:24.560 --> 01:16:27.119 Some people really want it bad, some people don't. 01:16:28.000 --> 01:16:30.079 I'm already one of the biggest, but I don't gotta be the biggest. 01:16:31.199 --> 01:16:31.840 Shout out to that. 01:16:32.000 --> 01:16:32.479 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 01:16:32.720 --> 01:16:36.800 Alright, so uh man, I went through this so many different ways, man. 01:16:36.960 --> 01:16:37.600 And you know what? 01:16:37.680 --> 01:16:39.279 I'm I'm throwing all this shit out. 01:16:39.439 --> 01:16:40.319 So let me tell you what I do.

01:16:40.399 --> 01:16:52.720 I normally do keep three, kill five, and I I have wildin' out uh members, and then I started doing video games, and then I started uh doing musical artists I think were vibey. 01:16:52.800 --> 01:16:54.079 I want to do top five instead. 01:16:54.159 --> 01:16:55.359 I have thrown all that out. 01:16:55.520 --> 01:17:05.920 Give me top five like vibe artists, just people that you like to listen to, that is just a mellow, good time, people that might have made this amazing playlist. 01:17:06.319 --> 01:17:10.560 Um number, I would say number one, two, and three is all the same artists. 01:17:10.880 --> 01:17:12.800 No, it's just this artist band called Crumbin. 01:17:13.119 --> 01:17:13.279 Okay. 01:17:13.840 --> 01:17:17.680 Uh Crumbin, I've I've listened to them for over almost a decade now. 01:17:17.840 --> 01:17:19.520 I've seen them live three times. 01:17:20.079 --> 01:17:21.600 Are they super, super popular? 01:17:21.920 --> 01:17:29.359 They were, they did, they did get a new artist, Grammy nomination, new artist of the year, like I think two years ago, but they had already been doing it for like a decade. 01:17:29.600 --> 01:17:30.000 Got it. 01:17:30.159 --> 01:17:33.680 Um it's three band members, it's it's they're just vibing out. 01:17:33.920 --> 01:17:38.640 It's like a smoke weed kind of show, do mushrooms kind of show. 01:17:38.880 --> 01:17:40.159 You go there and you just chill. 01:17:40.239 --> 01:17:48.000 There's their show is like very I don't know, they're operating on a wavelength that I don't know, makes you I makes me feel good, you know? 01:17:48.319 --> 01:17:48.640 Yeah. 01:17:48.880 --> 01:17:53.039 Um after that vibe vibes. 01:17:53.520 --> 01:17:58.079 I mean, just give me a- Oh, and then there's this guy, Arlindo Cruz, a Brazilian artist. 01:17:58.239 --> 01:17:58.399 Yeah. 01:17:58.560 --> 01:18:00.079 Arlindo Cruz is a Brazilian artist. 01:18:00.159 --> 01:18:01.439 He just passed away last year. 01:18:01.840 --> 01:18:04.640 Um, he does a type of music called Pogogi in Brazil. 01:18:04.720 --> 01:18:04.880 Okay. 01:18:05.119 --> 01:18:09.760 And Brazilian music is very like chill and vibe. 01:18:09.840 --> 01:18:28.319 And then another Brazilian artist to vibe to uh would be Georgie Ben George, who he he he combined funk, bossa nova, and uh samba and all all in one genre, and he created like so some really cool fucking songs. 01:18:28.399 --> 01:18:28.560 Yeah. 01:18:28.800 --> 01:18:42.159 But those would be the three, and um then obviously like RB is in there, but I really couldn't give you like any one artist because I have like a whole list of I have a I have a playlist called Have Sex to This. 01:18:42.560 --> 01:18:46.000 And it's just like as you can imagine, all the vibe is people, you know. 01:18:46.239 --> 01:18:46.880 Fantastic, man. 01:18:46.960 --> 01:18:48.640 Uh do you be going to Balsa Nova? 01:18:48.800 --> 01:18:49.920 Do I be going to Balsa Nova? 01:18:50.079 --> 01:18:51.439 Yeah, just in general, just the restaurant restaurant. 01:18:51.600 --> 01:18:52.640 Oh, Boston, the restaurant? 01:18:53.119 --> 01:18:53.680 I don't go there. 01:18:53.760 --> 01:18:57.279 There's a place I go in uh in Culver City called Pampas Grill. 01:18:57.359 --> 01:18:58.720 Shout out Pampas Grill. 01:18:58.880 --> 01:19:00.000 And it's a Brazilian restaurant. 01:19:00.239 --> 01:19:00.800 I got it, right? 01:19:01.119 --> 01:19:12.000 They they weigh by the pound, and you go there, you get the meats and the rice and the the the arroz confejão, picanha, ponji queijo, you know, stroganofi. 01:19:12.239 --> 01:19:12.800 I like Brazil. 01:19:13.039 --> 01:19:14.000 Muito gostoso. 01:19:14.399 --> 01:19:14.800 Fantastic. 01:19:14.960 --> 01:19:15.680 You know what I'm saying? 01:19:16.319 --> 01:19:17.359 Last question, man. 01:19:17.520 --> 01:19:19.840 Um, this is kind of a manifested moment. 01:19:19.920 --> 01:19:21.920 You know, you cannot open for me this time. 01:19:23.520 --> 01:19:25.199 I would be popping up at the shows anyway. 01:19:25.279 --> 01:19:27.039 I'll be just at the merch table. 01:19:27.119 --> 01:19:29.680 It's like probably do eight minutes in merch. 01:19:31.279 --> 01:19:37.359 Um so do you do the funny part is you think I want to do comedy, I want to do music at the time. 01:19:39.840 --> 01:19:41.119 No, you built too hard, bro. 01:19:41.199 --> 01:19:42.800 I have to work extra hard if you know. 01:19:43.119 --> 01:19:44.479 No, man, that's love, man. 01:19:44.560 --> 01:19:47.119 The um this is like a manifesting part of the show. 01:19:47.279 --> 01:19:47.439 Yeah. 01:19:47.600 --> 01:19:51.920 What does it look like for you to be killing it specifically career-wise? 01:19:52.079 --> 01:19:54.880 It like, you know, going forward from here, yeah. 01:19:55.119 --> 01:19:56.159 What is that what does it look like? 01:19:56.319 --> 01:20:03.520 I would have I would love to have a top 10 charting uh comedy special on Netflix, which I will be filming one for them. 01:20:03.600 --> 01:20:05.760 I would love it to, but I'd love it to go to the distance. 01:20:06.000 --> 01:20:10.640 I'd love to have um a million streams on a legitimate song. 01:20:11.039 --> 01:20:21.840 Not a c I'm not to say my songs are legitimate, but you know, I'm yeah, whether it's an RB song or like a you know, one of these, some some new song that comes out that I put out, at least a million streams on a song like that. 01:20:22.079 --> 01:20:29.439 Um I would love to have a clothing brand that I not and I don't say I would love. 01:20:29.600 --> 01:20:30.560 I will have a clothing brand. 01:20:30.960 --> 01:20:31.199 There you go. 01:20:31.359 --> 01:20:33.840 So I will have a uh a charting special. 01:20:34.079 --> 01:20:34.720 Yeah, that's it. 01:20:34.880 --> 01:20:35.119 That's it. 01:20:35.520 --> 01:20:40.000 I will have um what I say, the million streams. 01:20:40.159 --> 01:20:40.560 Yep. 01:20:40.800 --> 01:20:43.279 And

then um in your clothing. 01:20:43.600 --> 01:20:51.520 You know, and then long term, I know it seems silly because I know that you can't be a pop star or comedy star, you can't be like a star like that forever. 01:20:51.600 --> 01:20:58.880 We all have our time in the lot in the light, and but I think I would love to open up like a like a little vibey cafe by the beach somewhere. 01:20:59.199 --> 01:20:59.439 Nice. 01:20:59.600 --> 01:21:00.399 Oh man, that's really good. 01:21:00.800 --> 01:21:02.880 You know, people ask me, what would you do if you didn't do this? 01:21:03.279 --> 01:21:08.800 I'd probably work in hosp hospitality because you know my show is a hospitable place. 01:21:09.119 --> 01:21:10.960 I want people to feel welcome. 01:21:11.119 --> 01:21:15.199 And you know, my dad was a chef, my mom catered, they hosted people. 01:21:15.520 --> 01:21:16.640 So I like I like that. 01:21:16.800 --> 01:21:20.319 So I think in the long run to have something like that, that I'm like, can I be your friend? 01:21:21.039 --> 01:21:23.119 I mean, I'm not even incredible. 01:21:23.359 --> 01:21:25.520 I'm not even trying to be profitable with that business venture. 01:21:25.600 --> 01:21:28.640 I'll be like a little cafe that I would kick it out and be like, you want to come in and hang out? 01:21:28.880 --> 01:21:29.279 Let's do it. 01:21:29.359 --> 01:21:30.319 You know, dope, man. 01:21:30.479 --> 01:21:30.640 Yeah. 01:21:31.119 --> 01:21:31.600 Yeah, man. 01:21:31.840 --> 01:21:32.399 Hey, man. 01:21:32.800 --> 01:21:34.159 Congratulations on everything, man. 01:21:34.399 --> 01:21:41.039 And then also to be healthy, because health is wealth, and you think you got a problem until you really got a problem. 01:21:41.119 --> 01:21:41.600 You know what I mean? 01:21:41.840 --> 01:21:42.159 Yeah. 01:21:42.319 --> 01:21:44.960 So uh make sure y'all like, comment, subscribe. 01:21:45.279 --> 01:21:46.800 We forgot to say it at the top of the show. 01:21:46.880 --> 01:21:52.960 Uh, if y'all want to donate, man, we independently uh produce, but people have been saying how can they help support our show, man. 01:21:53.039 --> 01:21:55.279 So we got a Cash App, Killin' It Pod. 01:21:55.680 --> 01:21:55.920 Yes. 01:21:56.159 --> 01:21:59.039 Um, and yeah, man, we got merch coming soon. 01:21:59.279 --> 01:22:02.720 And yeah, until then, man, we can continue to share the clips. 01:22:02.800 --> 01:22:04.960 Uh, we love the comments, the feedback. 01:22:05.119 --> 01:22:07.520 And yeah, we've been your host, Justin Hyers. 01:22:07.760 --> 01:22:08.319 London Brown. 01:22:08.479 --> 01:22:09.680 BT Kingsley. 01:22:10.000 --> 01:22:11.279 And this has been the one and only. 01:22:11.520 --> 01:22:12.000 Morgan J. 01:22:12.159 --> 01:22:12.560 Morgan J. 01:22:12.720 --> 01:22:17.199 Come on, uh, tell them where to find you all the socials too, man. 01:22:17.279 --> 01:22:18.800 Uh Morgan J everywhere. 01:22:18.880 --> 01:22:20.319 Just put in a Google at this point. 01:22:20.479 --> 01:22:24.159 Yeah, come on, that's it. 01:22:24.800 --> 01:22:25.119 Beautiful. 01:22:25.199 --> 01:22:25.680 We did it.