Full Transcript for Need the Creative Space to Keep Going and Feel Alive with Abby Pasion

no, you're good. 00:02:19.680 --> 00:02:20.080 I'm glad. 00:02:20.159 --> 00:02:21.520 Um thank you, Gabby. 00:02:21.680 --> 00:02:30.240 Um I was actually doing some um, I was actually doing some production and um and I was like, I can get it done. 00:02:30.400 --> 00:02:32.639 I can get it done, it'll be done, it'll be done. 00:02:32.719 --> 00:02:36.800 And then feeling two minutes, two minutes, and then I was like, oh shoot. 00:02:37.199 --> 00:02:40.560 But you guys are early and on time, and I'm late. 00:02:40.879 --> 00:02:41.759 No, that's okay. 00:02:41.919 --> 00:02:45.120 We just needed the recording button because I didn't want to ask too many questions. 00:02:45.199 --> 00:02:51.919 I was like, I feel like everything that's coming out of my mouth right now is just gonna lead into something else, and we're not recording. 00:02:52.159 --> 00:02:55.360 Well, we're recording now, so we can let let's commence. 00:02:55.520 --> 00:02:56.319 Hi Lloyd. 00:02:56.800 --> 00:02:57.520 Hi, Lloyd. 00:02:58.479 --> 00:03:00.080 Oh, I love your shirt. 00:03:00.400 --> 00:03:00.960 Thank you. 00:03:01.199 --> 00:03:01.599 Thank you. 00:03:01.759 --> 00:03:02.479 I appreciate it. 00:03:02.560 --> 00:03:04.159 Yeah, oh, it is a really cool shirt. 00:03:05.120 --> 00:03:06.960 Well, welcome, Abby. 00:03:07.120 --> 00:03:10.960 And I want to know what you guys were talking about before I I popped on. 00:03:11.680 --> 00:03:21.759 I I said that I'm usually in my booth, but right now I'm on location because you know sometimes life gets uh chaotic, which is why this is keeping up with the chaos from the booth and beyond. 00:03:21.919 --> 00:03:23.520 I'm in the beyond right now. 00:03:23.840 --> 00:03:24.479 Yes. 00:03:25.120 --> 00:03:40.719 And I I was actually just telling Gabby, um, like, thank you for reaching out to me about the podcast opportunity of uh like all those months ago, I don't even remember how long ago that was, um, uh, because of this Instagram post that I that I had posted. 00:03:40.879 --> 00:03:45.759 And so we were just kind of talking about, you know, what that post meant to her. 00:03:45.919 --> 00:03:48.879 And um, yeah, and that's when we were like, oh, we we should wait. 00:03:49.199 --> 00:03:50.400 We should wait. 00:03:51.199 --> 00:03:52.800 Let's not start yet. 00:03:53.039 --> 00:03:57.360 So um, but we also did mention that where are you based, Abby? 00:03:57.680 --> 00:04:00.080 Oh yeah, I am based out of Portland, Oregon. 00:04:00.560 --> 00:04:01.680 Very cool, very cool. 00:04:01.919 --> 00:04:03.759 Yeah, I'm in Florida. 00:04:04.159 --> 00:04:05.199 Whoa, yeah. 00:04:05.840 --> 00:04:08.080 We're in the opposite corners, yeah. 00:04:09.280 --> 00:04:10.240 I'm below you. 00:04:10.319 --> 00:04:11.919 I'm in Vegas, Nevada. 00:04:12.159 --> 00:04:12.639 Hey yo. 00:04:14.319 --> 00:04:16.079 Gabby's in an entirely different country. 00:04:16.800 --> 00:04:17.040 Yeah. 00:04:17.360 --> 00:04:18.160 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:04:18.639 --> 00:04:19.519 Mexico. 00:04:20.800 --> 00:04:26.480 So let's talk about the post that you posted um that like sparked Gabby's um interest. 00:04:26.639 --> 00:04:28.480 You know, she's been loved it. 00:04:28.639 --> 00:04:28.959 Yeah. 00:04:29.120 --> 00:04:29.759 Yeah. 00:04:30.079 --> 00:04:34.879 So something that yeah, it's something that doesn't been, it's not talked about. 00:04:34.959 --> 00:04:43.600 And I really appreciate that you were brave enough to put it out there because it's also something that a lot of people are like too sometimes even too embarrassed to share. 00:04:43.680 --> 00:04:46.720 Like, oh I was invited to this, but nobody came to my booth, you know? 00:04:46.879 --> 00:04:48.160 So yes, yes. 00:04:48.480 --> 00:04:49.120 Or for sure. 00:04:49.439 --> 00:04:57.839 You talked about being like a lesser known character and being out there, putting yourself out there at you know, these cons, right? 00:04:58.000 --> 00:05:01.360 Um and I just thought that was so fascinating. 00:05:01.600 --> 00:05:05.360 First of all, I have to just say, I'm like stressed out about those. 00:05:05.519 --> 00:05:08.639 Like I know how much work they go that goes into it. 00:05:08.800 --> 00:05:09.120 Okay. 00:05:09.439 --> 00:05:10.319 So yeah. 00:05:10.560 --> 00:05:14.480 So it's it's a lot of time and effort, even just to get yourself to there, right? 00:05:14.560 --> 00:05:15.680 So for sure, yeah. 00:05:15.839 --> 00:05:16.000 Yeah. 00:05:16.079 --> 00:05:17.040 So how did that start? 00:05:17.120 --> 00:05:19.920 Like, how did how did you get how did that spark happen for you? 00:05:20.000 --> 00:05:24.240 Like, how did you decide to put yourself out there and go to a a a Comic Con or yeah? 00:05:24.560 --> 00:05:25.199 Yeah, yeah. 00:05:25.360 --> 00:05:31.519 So I guess um we can, yeah, we can backtrack a little bit before even getting to the post. 00:05:31.839 --> 00:05:32.240 Sure. 00:05:32.399 --> 00:05:41.839 Um, but yeah, so for me, I I gained my first like really big um anime role back in 2024. 00:05:42.240 --> 00:05:51.199 Um it actually was my first role in anime ever, and it just happened to be in this um pretty viral show at the time called My Dear Friend Nokotan. 00:05:51.680 --> 00:05:54.720 Um and it was yeah, it was a really big hit in Japan. 00:05:54.879 --> 00:05:59.439 Um a lot of people were talking about it here in um the States as well. 00:06:00.000 --> 00:06:23.040 And so um the the cast, which by the way, we uh pretty much all of us were upcoming very new voice actors, and we all recorded that show remotely, which you know, at at in 2024 at this point in time, um I like to say that uh the voiceover in the industry has tried to move past, you know, remote recording from the um from the COVID times. 00:06:23.600 --> 00:06:34.959 Um and so it it was a really big deal to a lot of us newer talent and remote talent, you know, who don't live in like those big voiceover hubs to be able to record this

show um remotely. 00:06:35.120 --> 00:06:44.000 And so some of our casts, you know, we got together and we were like, we think it would be really cool if we could talk about our experience recording this show at conventions. 00:06:44.160 --> 00:06:59.360 And so um that's when we, you know, we all collectively were trying to get ourselves into some cons, um, approaching it from that angle of like, you know, this is like a completely remote recorded show in 2024, we'd love to, you know, talk to people about it. 00:06:59.600 --> 00:07:03.839 Um, but not a lot of conventions picked us up, which totally fair, you know. 00:07:04.079 --> 00:07:09.199 Um a lot of us were really new, and I I understand the business side of conventions. 00:07:09.279 --> 00:07:24.639 Um but but for the few handful of conventions that were able to um bring me out or or wanted to take a chance on bringing me and maybe some of my other cats mates out, um that was my first dip into the convention circuit. 00:07:25.199 --> 00:07:26.800 Um so yeah, yeah. 00:07:26.959 --> 00:07:36.319 And then since 2024, um I have had you know the opportunity to um make my way to a few other, you know, conventions around the country, um, which has been really cool. 00:07:36.879 --> 00:07:46.399 So question when you say like be accepted, like do you have to actually um you know put yourself out there and ask to to be a part of it? 00:07:46.560 --> 00:07:51.680 Or yeah, you know, that was another like big learning curve for me. 00:07:51.839 --> 00:08:06.240 Um I have to say a special shout out to my castmate Donald Guzzi because he um he was the one who was really helping guide our cast with um how do you reach out to conventions because he's uh dealt with all of that stuff before. 00:08:06.480 --> 00:08:12.319 Um Yeah, so there's a couple of different ways that a person can be a guest at a convention. 00:08:12.480 --> 00:08:17.040 One would be through fan um, you know, recommendations or suggestions. 00:08:17.600 --> 00:08:19.680 Fans can submit to conventions. 00:08:19.920 --> 00:08:23.120 Um lots of conventions have like a guest request form. 00:08:23.439 --> 00:08:32.000 And you know, so the cons will usually decide who they want to bring based on the you know the recommendations from their attendees, which totally makes sense, right? 00:08:32.080 --> 00:08:39.759 Like if you're if your attendees want to see like this X, Y, and Z person, then that convention's gonna try their best to bring those people out. 00:08:40.000 --> 00:08:40.159 Yeah. 00:08:40.399 --> 00:08:42.399 Um and so that's one way. 00:08:42.480 --> 00:08:54.639 And then another way would be, yeah, kind of just self-marketing, like reaching out to these cons and introducing myself and um, you know, talking about what I could bring to that convention. 00:08:54.879 --> 00:08:59.840 Um, and if they're interested, they may or you know, or they may not reach out. 00:09:00.000 --> 00:09:01.519 So yeah. 00:09:02.000 --> 00:09:07.440 That makes sense though, because I mean you want people to be excited to come to the con, right? 00:09:07.519 --> 00:09:09.200 And you and you want people to pay for the tickets. 00:09:09.279 --> 00:09:14.240 And I mean, I mean it's like it's absolutely exactly for both the the actors and you know the people that are coming. 00:09:14.399 --> 00:09:17.200 You want everybody to be absolutely yeah, so that makes sense. 00:09:17.600 --> 00:09:19.279 Yeah, yes, totally. 00:09:19.600 --> 00:09:20.559 Um Gabby go. 00:09:20.879 --> 00:09:23.039 I feel like Gabby, did you have a question? 00:09:23.440 --> 00:09:24.879 Oh no, not right now. 00:09:25.200 --> 00:09:29.519 I I'm just listening, I'm just absorbing all the things. 00:09:29.919 --> 00:09:31.519 Because it's really it's really cool. 00:09:31.600 --> 00:09:36.000 I've never done a comic con, nor do I know how to get into one. 00:09:36.320 --> 00:09:48.960 So it's something that uh I've I've never even like even in our animation uh classes like before when we were still taking classes, like they didn't they didn't really talk about that or cover that subject at all. 00:09:49.120 --> 00:09:49.360 No. 00:09:49.679 --> 00:09:50.159 Yeah, yeah. 00:09:50.320 --> 00:09:59.840 And well, I think the other the other piece to that might also be, you know, uh there's a lot of uh I mean it's not just voice talent, but on screen folks too. 00:09:59.919 --> 00:10:08.320 But you know, there's a lot of talent who have been in the industry for a really long time and and don't, you know, go to conventions or don't really do cons. 00:10:08.639 --> 00:10:14.399 Yeah um and I certainly I certainly did not think I would be doing conventions at all. 00:10:14.559 --> 00:10:18.000 Um at least not like ever this early in my career. 00:10:18.080 --> 00:10:21.840 Like I'm I'm only going into my fifth year of like voiceover, you know. 00:10:21.919 --> 00:10:25.679 So I still feel like a baby a baby voice actor sometimes. 00:10:25.919 --> 00:10:27.759 Um us too, us too. 00:10:30.080 --> 00:10:40.960 And so um yeah, and there was someone I met on well at one of the conventions, an another voice actor, and I I apologize that I can't remember who it was. 00:10:41.279 --> 00:10:56.879 Um but they were talking about how, you know, when you get into when you get into the world of acting or or voiceover, um at least for most people I think the the thought is not now I really want to get into the convention circuit. 00:10:57.120 --> 00:11:01.759 You know, like we're we're in it because we're creative and we're performers and we love to bring stories to life. 00:11:01.919 --> 00:11:09.200 And so um I'm I just feel really fortunate and and privileged and humbled to be able to even be in those spaces. 00:11:09.360 --> 00:11:12.960 And so um that actually brings me then to my post. 00:11:13.440 --> 00:11:21.440 So um I had been doing, you know, a handful of conventions, usually pretty medium, small sized conventions over the last couple of

years. 00:11:22.000 --> 00:11:24.639 And I've I've enjoyed like every single one. 00:11:25.039 --> 00:11:28.639 Um even the ones that might have been a little like disorganized. 00:11:29.120 --> 00:11:30.960 I enjoyed all of them. 00:11:31.279 --> 00:11:44.240 Um and then I was scrolling on Instagram and I saw a um a vendor, like a artist vendor who goes to conventions, and again, I I wish I could remember the vendor's name. 00:11:44.480 --> 00:11:51.919 But she made a a post of like vending at a convention when no one shows up to your table. 00:11:52.240 --> 00:12:03.360 And it honestly got me thinking about yeah, you know, my experience at these conventions, while I have really enjoyed myself, you know, getting to meet the people who come by. 00:12:03.519 --> 00:12:26.960 Um there is like a tinge of of loneliness that sometimes come through when uh when I am sitting at my table for multiple hours and no one's stopping by to talk to me, or or they might take a look at my banner and then go, oh, I don't know anything this person's from, and then keep walking, you know, and I then then the convention organizers always come by and they're like, Oh, how's it going? 00:12:27.120 --> 00:12:28.639 We're so glad you're here. 00:12:28.960 --> 00:12:30.799 And I start to feel bad. 00:12:30.879 --> 00:12:37.120 I'm like, oh, you know, I'm doing great, but maybe there was someone else you all could have brought instead of me, you know? 00:12:37.600 --> 00:12:47.360 Um and uh and then a little bit of imposter syndrome comes through, you know, just like is is am I meant to be like in these spaces? 00:12:47.519 --> 00:12:49.919 Am I taking up spaces where I shouldn't be? 00:12:50.240 --> 00:12:57.360 Um and I just thought about putting those thoughts out there. 00:12:57.840 --> 00:13:04.399 Uh I did not ex I really did not expect it to like blow up in the way that it did. 00:13:04.559 --> 00:13:19.120 Um it was starting to reach, you know, some, you know, who I would consider like a lister voiceover folks and yeah, who who were saying very similar things and you know, about at least about their early, you know, days doing the convention circuit. 00:13:19.279 --> 00:13:26.879 Um it was more of just a post that I wanted to put out, just like maybe for myself and my few friends who might be following me. 00:13:26.960 --> 00:13:30.080 Um had no idea it was gonna blow up the way it did. 00:13:31.679 --> 00:13:32.559 Go ahead, go ahead, Lloyd. 00:13:32.639 --> 00:13:33.039 Go ahead, Lloyd. 00:13:33.440 --> 00:13:39.519 What I was gonna say, and this kind of goes back to just before the statement about um you know, people not really talking about it. 00:13:39.600 --> 00:13:43.679 Like Gabby, you said people weren't talking about it in character classes and stuff like that. 00:13:43.840 --> 00:13:50.240 I think obviously like I haven't been a guest at any cons or anything like that. 00:13:50.559 --> 00:14:00.080 I feel like for a lot of people I think a lot of people

don't realize that that is uh part of the business side of doing voice acting. 00:14:00.879 --> 00:14:16.720 I think that so many people are focused on the acting in the booth, taking glasses, absolutely on the business side of thing things, and there are very few people who have the opportunity to, you know, go to cons. 00:14:17.440 --> 00:14:25.519 So for you to talk about that is talking about something that just statistically there are not going to be a lot of people talking about any. 00:14:26.639 --> 00:14:27.679 That's a really good point. 00:14:28.000 --> 00:14:28.799 That's a really good point. 00:14:28.960 --> 00:14:29.759 That's a really good point. 00:14:30.159 --> 00:14:49.039 And you know, and it's and like I s you know, going back a little bit, it's like you know, all the you know, like not only getting accepted, like you said, you know, either marketing yourself to the cons and having them accept you, or like having your fans, you know, get you in, right, as a guest, but there's a lot of preparedness that has to happen ahead of time, you know. 00:14:49.120 --> 00:14:51.759 I mean when you even just to get to the cons. 00:14:52.000 --> 00:14:57.679 So there's a lot of work before you even sit down at your table and like put your table together, you know. 00:14:57.759 --> 00:14:59.679 So let I mean you want to talk a little bit about that. 00:14:59.840 --> 00:15:04.399 And then you're sitting there, you know, and you've done all this work and you're sitting there and then you're like, crickets, you know. 00:15:04.799 --> 00:15:05.919 Right, right, right. 00:15:06.080 --> 00:15:17.679 Uh yeah, I mean, you know, you as a guest, you know, sometimes conventions uh will ask for you to, you know, maybe uh participate in a panel or two. 00:15:17.840 --> 00:15:21.200 Um and so you have to prepare, you know, you have to prepare panel topics. 00:15:21.279 --> 00:15:23.279 You gotta put like a workshop together. 00:15:23.519 --> 00:15:26.960 Um it's not always just sitting down at your table all day. 00:15:27.039 --> 00:15:31.840 It is also like actual social interaction with people. 00:15:32.240 --> 00:15:37.519 Um I uh I I'm a teacher by day, so that's like that's my main job. 00:15:37.679 --> 00:15:49.120 And so sometimes when um when I'm doing these panels and these workshops, a little bit of my my teacher side comes out and it makes makes me feel pretty, pretty comfortable and confident like hosting those panels and stuff. 00:15:49.279 --> 00:15:51.759 But but it is extra things to prepare for sure. 00:15:52.080 --> 00:15:54.240 Um art prints, you know. 00:15:54.399 --> 00:16:01.200 I um I I'm so proud to have worked with so many talented artists um who I've commissioned, you know, for my character prints. 00:16:01.519 --> 00:16:05.440 Um but of course, you know, that and that costs money, right? 00:16:05.600 --> 00:16:17.840 Like um, and so yeah, putting um all of your time and energy into preparing for a convention weekend and then maybe maybe five people show up to your panel, right? 00:16:18.000 --> 00:16:24.879 Or or maybe I don't sell a single thing the entire weekend, right? 00:16:25.279 --> 00:16:41.919 Um yeah, that I gets you a little bit because you know you you've you've really prepared mentally and um have uh put a lot of emotion um and and joy into the these uh panels and topics that you've been so looking forward to talking about. 00:16:42.240 --> 00:16:55.759 Um you had artists who um you know uh spent time creating art for you to share with others and then feeling like you weren't able to follow through on that can yeah, be a little tough sometimes. 00:16:56.080 --> 00:16:56.240 Yeah. 00:16:56.399 --> 00:16:58.639 And it's good to like talk about that and like air it out. 00:16:58.720 --> 00:17:01.200 I mean also you're talking about like maybe you have to travel, right? 00:17:01.759 --> 00:17:14.079 Like you have maybe to drive, maybe there's gas, maybe there's a airplane ticket, I don't know, you know, hotel, you know, and then schlepping all of your stuff in and out and packing it up and oh my gosh, yeah. 00:17:14.160 --> 00:17:16.640 Yeah, I didn't even didn't even think about all of that. 00:17:16.720 --> 00:17:22.319 Um and and sometimes, you know, um sometimes the conventions don't don't always cover everything. 00:17:22.480 --> 00:17:30.240 And so there have been a couple of um instances where you know I I had to pay for my own lodging or I had to pay for my own ticket. 00:17:30.400 --> 00:17:42.640 Um and if I you know if I don't break even, like if I don't make enough in that convention weekend to um cover all those expenses, it's like ah um so yeah, it's tough. 00:17:42.880 --> 00:17:44.960 That kind of goes back with it is tough. 00:17:45.039 --> 00:17:50.240 But it that also goes with like your kind of invest like Lloyd was saying, that goes back to the business side of things, right? 00:17:50.319 --> 00:17:58.960 Like you're investing in your business and putting yourself out there and you know, and it's like a it's a business expense, I guess you could put it into your taxes as like a business. 00:17:59.839 --> 00:18:00.079 Yeah. 00:18:01.279 --> 00:18:04.079 The crazy thing that I've been thinking about this this entire time. 00:18:04.319 --> 00:18:04.880 Oh my goodness. 00:18:05.519 --> 00:18:18.000 The crazy thing is that there's always there are always those people, and I I say this because I had this specific thing happen, who like someone will be at a convention and no one will be out be at their table. 00:18:18.319 --> 00:18:26.880 And the person that did not attend that convention would have been like that's the first person they would have gone to to see. 00:18:27.440 --> 00:18:28.799 Oh yeah, yeah. 00:18:29.200 --> 00:18:36.160 It was like uh if only if only those in if only those ships didn't just pass by. 00:18:36.240 --> 00:18:40.319 It's like, oh, you're in my town and I would love to see you, but I have a thing I have to do on

that Saturday. 00:18:40.799 --> 00:18:41.279 Absolutely. 00:18:41.359 --> 00:18:47.359 And you know that that has happened before where I've had um and it's always a surprise to me, like a pleasant surprise. 00:18:47.519 --> 00:19:13.200 Um people will will comment on uh my Instagram because I I usually will, you know, keep up to date on social media when I'm at conventions and stuff, and people will be like, oh no, I I would have wanted to come see you, but I'm not in town right now, or you know, or some something came up, or um one of my one of my favorite interactions was at a convention in um in Houston, Delta Hcon. 00:19:13.519 --> 00:19:17.599 There's these group these group of young boys who came by. 00:19:17.839 --> 00:19:25.839 Um I they walked past my table and they kind of looked up and then they did like a double take and they were like, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. 00:19:26.079 --> 00:19:27.200 They got so excited. 00:19:27.599 --> 00:19:28.400 That is awesome. 00:19:28.720 --> 00:19:33.359 And yeah, because they were just like, Your character is my favorite character in the show. 00:19:33.519 --> 00:19:35.200 I didn't even know you were here. 00:19:35.440 --> 00:19:38.640 Which I was like, boy, I don't know how you didn't know I was here. 00:19:38.799 --> 00:19:53.039 Like, I'm on all the promotional stuff, but uh but they yeah, they were just so excited to to see me, and that that makes up for all of those times where no one was coming by or I was sitting by myself for hours. 00:19:53.200 --> 00:19:59.680 Just to have that one like positive fan interaction, it it truly, really does make it all worth it for me. 00:20:00.319 --> 00:20:06.400 You know, that's interesting that you said that because that's like thank you for sharing that, because that's so cool because like that goes back to like your post in the point. 00:20:06.480 --> 00:20:07.359 You know what I'm saying? 00:20:07.440 --> 00:20:12.880 It's like um sometimes it's just those micro moments that like really just are the best. 00:20:13.119 --> 00:20:38.000 My oldest son just went to his first um like con in um Orlando, and he was like, some of his favorite moments was you went with a group of friends, and um and he said he's like sometimes they don't make it easy for you to get to them either, you know, like the parking is expensive, and like you know, as like a you know, on the flip side of things, not just and um and then but he said some of his favorite moments were were seeing actors that were not the main characters, you know what I'm saying? 00:20:38.079 --> 00:20:42.079 Like I'm I'm new to the understanding anime and character. 00:20:42.160 --> 00:21:05.759 Um that's not really my but um I'm learning, I'm learning, and you know, and and and um and he was you know, I can't name off the characters, but he was like took some pictures with them and he was like, Oh, I was so excited because you know they weren't like the main main character, but they were like my favorite character in the plot and the story and like the I don't know the thread of the I don't know, like I can't speak to it, but you know what I'm saying? 00:21:05.839 --> 00:21:09.200 Like it's absolutely super excited, and I was like, cool. 00:21:09.440 --> 00:21:16.559 And then I actually I and just to toot your horn a little bit, like this morning I was having coffee with my middle son, and I was like, Yeah, I'm having this podcast. 00:21:16.720 --> 00:21:22.480 I have a guest coming on, she's in anime, and like Gabby invited her, you know, they're both character, and I'm you know, more commercial. 00:21:22.640 --> 00:21:23.279 And sure, yeah. 00:21:23.440 --> 00:21:26.000 And I was like, you know, and and I was he goes, Who is she? 00:21:26.079 --> 00:21:30.000 I'm like, you know, Abby, and is it passion or yeah, passion. 00:21:30.720 --> 00:21:31.200 Okay, perfect. 00:21:31.759 --> 00:21:33.119 And he was like, Well, was she in? 00:21:33.279 --> 00:21:35.519 And I'm like, I I can't pronounce, but let me pull it up, you know. 00:21:35.599 --> 00:21:38.240 And so I pulled up your bio and I was like, I was like, see? 00:21:38.319 --> 00:21:41.359 And he was like, he googled you and he's like, Oh yeah, I watched those shows. 00:21:41.519 --> 00:21:42.480 Oh yeah, I know her. 00:21:42.720 --> 00:21:44.319 Oh yeah, I know her character. 00:21:44.559 --> 00:21:45.599 And I was like, Okay. 00:21:47.759 --> 00:21:50.640 He's 15, but like you know, to yeah. 00:21:50.799 --> 00:22:03.680 So and going back to the teenager boys that like like were so excited about you, they probably didn't know you because they didn't and not not know you, I meant they probably didn't know you were weren't there or were there because like they don't pay attention to details like that sometimes. 00:22:04.960 --> 00:22:08.880 I mean they're totally guess they're like I'm going to the lead here. 00:22:09.119 --> 00:23:09.839 Yeah they're like trying to get to the conference we're trying to get there trying to absorb everything you know and then they're like squirrel you know like definitely yeah ADHD squirrels plague my brain every day oh my gosh we love it Lloyd we have we do we do but I mean like you know conven the conventions are a lot even for like people that are going there that are fans you know it's very overwhelming yeah so yeah yeah totally I'm happy that they found you I I am too and I will also say there there has also been a lot of folks who would come by e even if they didn't know who I was just to talk and I really appreciate those interactions too because um it I I've had a lot of really great interactions with like folks who want to get into voice acting um or someone who has a really cool cosplay and I like comment on it and then they come over and we're talking about like you know sewing and stuff for for 30 minutes. 00:23:10.640 --> 00:23:24.000 I I just love getting to like make these little little connections these little moments of connection

with people that I probably would have never ever met or talked to before if I wasn't at that convention. 00:23:24.880 --> 00:23:33.680 I I very much am an extroverted person so um but I get my energy from other people and I love when we can share good energy with each other. 00:23:34.000 --> 00:23:35.200 I love that so much. 00:23:35.440 --> 00:23:43.200 You know there are a lot of voice actors that are more introverted right you know they chose and I've I've met a lot of those people too doing all of this. 00:23:43.440 --> 00:23:46.000 And so it's a ch and it's a choice to do the convention. 00:23:46.160 --> 00:23:48.720 So how did you choose to get into voiceover? 00:23:48.799 --> 00:23:49.680 Like let's hear about that. 00:23:49.759 --> 00:24:00.000 Like how did you're an extrovert a lot of times most voice actors are introverted and I'm both I'm an introverted extrovert like an introvert. 00:24:00.480 --> 00:24:41.440 Yeah I can I can do this I could probably maybe go to a Comic Con maybe maybe you know and I've done that in a different like lifetime and a different career choice that I had like many years ago you know like for marketing and stuff and events like that advertising and marketing but it takes a lot out of you you know so anywho how did you get into voice acting yes I you see I've been asked this question like so many times at all these different cons that I've gone to and I and I feel like I still haven't been able to you know real condense everything as cleanly as I want to but I would say um the the the short answer is during the pandemic. 00:24:41.680 --> 00:24:41.920 Okay. 00:24:42.079 --> 00:24:49.519 Um I I have already had a uh background in theater and so I I had done theater since I was in middle school. 00:24:49.599 --> 00:25:04.640 Um did it through you know high school also through college but I was never yeah yeah but I was never taught in my in my household um that the creative space was you know a valuable career path. 00:25:05.279 --> 00:25:19.359 Um and so even though I have this passion for for art and for performing um I still you know I went to college for teaching um and as I mentioned earlier I am a teacher during the day and I still I love being a teacher. 00:25:19.839 --> 00:25:21.119 I I love being a teacher. 00:25:21.440 --> 00:25:31.920 Um but then when the pandemic hit and you know I I was doing shows with like community theaters at that time um but we weren't we weren't doing shows in person anymore. 00:25:32.319 --> 00:25:36.880 Um I basically just stumbled into voiceover. 00:25:37.119 --> 00:25:49.200 Um you know on on the internet I kept seeing people post uh projects of like hey I I have this you know webcomic or this original animation and I would love for someone to voice in it. 00:25:49.680 --> 00:26:00.960 Um and through some of my actor friends um I I would start people would start sending me stuff of like hey like I don't know if you do voiceover but like you this here's something if you want to try it. 00:26:01.359 --> 00:26:11.440 Um and I did and I really I really enjoyed this new um you know this new world of acting that I didn't have a lot of experience in before. 00:26:11.920 --> 00:26:45.920 Um I loved that it was something I could do from home um from the comfort of my home that I could bring all these different kinds of characters to life in a way that I couldn't really do on camera or on stage because of you know like let's just be totally clear because of like how I look and um especially being like a like a woman in the performing arts and um you know I really loved that other side of of voiceover and I decided that I was gonna go full like I was gonna dive right in. 00:26:46.079 --> 00:27:03.359 Like um even after the pandemic was over I um really started to like grow my skills in VO taking workshops taking classes um I still do on camera stuff and I still do theater um but voiceover truly became like my my number one passion. 00:27:03.759 --> 00:27:04.880 That's awesome. 00:27:05.119 --> 00:27:08.240 Yeah I have a question. 00:27:08.480 --> 00:27:24.240 Um okay so you said that you and and I I completely understand because same you know that with our families not looking at our career initially right as like some something that yeah I get it. 00:27:24.559 --> 00:27:37.759 Very relatable yeah yes oh totally yeah especially like I have a Philippine like I'm Filipino like Filipino families you know it was like become a nurse become a doctor and I was like I don't want to yeah and how how are they taking it now? 00:27:37.920 --> 00:27:57.599 Like are they now more supportive are they like oh we didn't know that this was an option and this existed I think they definitely are I I mean even though I did not go to medical school like they wanted me to I my parents were they were already very supportive of me becoming an educator. 00:27:58.400 --> 00:28:46.480 And now that they've seen they've seen some of my stuff like I I pull up you know commercials I'll be like oh look that's me or um I I show them my um shows when they come out or or movies when they come out and um I can just see like the smiles on their faces and um how how proud they are and um they might not want to admit it but but I'm they I'm sure that they um yeah they're they are super supportive of like where my career is going now and I think at the end of the day you know they they just want me to they want me to be happy and they want me to you know have all my basic needs met and stuff of course yeah of course they like like any anything they did it out of love. 00:28:46.640 --> 00:28:46.960 Yeah. 00:28:47.279 --> 00:28:55.039 Of course yes and then anytime I'm at a convention my my mom is always like can you send me the details because I want to share it on Facebook. 00:28:56.400 --> 00:28:59.119 That's cute that's cute. 00:28:59.279 --> 00:29:01.200 Um so are you still a teacher? 00:29:01.440 --> 00:29:06.319 Because you know you said you're an educator

and a writer and a voice actor and you do on camera in theater. 00:29:06.400 --> 00:29:07.599 So are you still teaching? 00:29:07.759 --> 00:29:39.119 Yeah okay you're at the brick and mortar school yeah okay I am yes I am still teaching I will say US history my US history yeah that is what I teach and uh this is my fifth year of teaching and this is my third year of teaching part-time so through three years ago I went from the full-time teaching to part-time okay because I I decided that you know if I could really make this voiceover stuff happen I want to make it happen. 00:29:39.519 --> 00:29:48.240 Yeah and so yeah yeah but but I am still teaching part-time and uh I'm actually grading some stuff this weekend. 00:29:48.559 --> 00:29:52.720 Um but you know I'll I'll get to that after after this podcast meeting. 00:29:52.799 --> 00:30:24.880 So how how has that um impacted like when you do like your creative character work you know what I'm saying like when being a teacher I mean like you have like you're like plugged into high school kids you know they're rowdy and I all kinds of personality and energy I have a couple in my house right now funnily enough I actually think it's I think it's the reverse I actually think that a lot of my um uh my creative work fuels my persona in the classroom. 00:30:25.200 --> 00:30:25.759 Oh really? 00:30:25.920 --> 00:30:27.039 Um that's really cool. 00:30:27.680 --> 00:30:40.480 Yeah yeah um especially teaching what you teach yes and I like to tell people I like to tell people that you know there's a certain level of like acting that has to be involved with being a teacher. 00:30:40.640 --> 00:31:45.039 Like sure you know you you you have to you have to put on these different personas you know when when you show up into the classroom um you are you're improving your way you know through an hour and a half of of curriculum time like um yeah and a tough job it's a tough job being a teacher I think oh it oh it's it totally is um and I I mean I don't know how long we want to like or how deep we want to go into the the teacher side of things but it it's a job that um surprisingly well okay okay surprisingly I've met a lot of people in voiceover who also do some sort of work with kids whether they are teachers or they're like can they've done camp counseling um and I'm just like huh there is I feel like that needs to be explored a little bit more the intersection of of actors and like education because I have met a lot of yeah I've met a lot of actors who also work in the education space and I feel like that can't be a coincidence. 00:31:45.359 --> 00:32:45.920 I don't think it is I don't think it is yeah yeah that's that's interesting I'm writing that down and that's a big note go ahead Lloyd were gonna say oh no my brain just rabbit holed so I was like it reminds Rabbit hole rabbit hole go yeah do it do it do it I was first in college I went to college and I was an English major now I graduated with a mass communications degree but when I was an English major there was always the question of like what are you gonna do with an English degree and or like what is English teach you that's useful and uh uh literature uh by and large like if you're the type of person who is like consuming things that present you with knowledge and make you feel allow you to be a better more empathetic person and like that is very important. 00:32:46.720 --> 00:33:17.920 But telling that to people in the context of how this is going to support you for the rest of your life is you know and I think that anybody who acts who is not doing it necessarily just for the money um not that there's anything wrong with anybody doing anything just for the money because I feel like a lot of people are really toxic about like oh if you don't if you do it just for the money you're not gonna but um be paid for your intellectual property yeah that you're sharing your creativeness. 00:33:18.000 --> 00:33:18.240 Yeah. 00:33:18.480 --> 00:33:18.880 Yeah. 00:33:19.200 --> 00:33:43.519 But I think people who act just by whether it's on camera, on stage, voice acting whatever there is a requirement to know how I guess to do it well, to know how to connect with certain parts of yourself that traditionally people are not asked to and to be able to connect with other people in those ways. 00:33:43.759 --> 00:34:27.039 And I think a lot of the time the best people to teach are the people who have explored how to connect in those ways because a lot of people who have moved on into adulthood you know there's it's it's like uh when you talk to teenagers and you're like oh uh I have real adult problems what do you have to worry about and it's like oh so you've let the world uh harden you against empathizing with these empathizing with like for this kid these very real problems. 00:34:27.360 --> 00:34:38.159 Yeah right and you have to be able to know how to meet them in an in a meet them halfway I guess meet them where they're at to interact with them to keep them engaged. 00:34:38.800 --> 00:35:18.000 Absolutely so yeah there there there's there is study that could be done but I also feel like unfortunately because of the virtue of it it'd be real hard to put like numbers to anything lots of abstract conversation would come up yeah but actually you I I really like what you said though about this um yeah this ability to to build to continuously build like empathy and and connection through the interactions that uh for me as an educator I'm having like every day with um with with young people. 00:35:18.480 --> 00:35:34.880 And and yeah and you know um I would say that because I am in a school setting and I I'm with young people all the time that I can still be plugged in into what like what issues matter to uh to to young people right now. 00:35:35.039 --> 00:35:37.519 What are the lives of young people like right now? 00:35:38.320 --> 00:35:53.280 I yeah I it is a certain level of privilege that I feel

like I get to have I don't just lose myself in the you know the staircase into adulthood right and like you were saying oh those are your those are your young people problems now. 00:35:53.360 --> 00:35:56.079 Like I I'm grown and I don't have to deal with that anymore. 00:35:56.880 --> 00:36:00.079 But I like that yeah thank you for sharing that. 00:36:00.320 --> 00:36:00.800 Yeah. 00:36:01.119 --> 00:36:40.960 I um I find that it's also um pretty cool that you are not systematically but you're being very conscious of the fact that you were a full-time teacher and then you've kind of stair stepped to part-time you know and like what was the thought process there you know because some people are like I'm leaving my job and I'm going full-time voiceover you know or and then they're like oh this didn't work you know and then they're backtracking or there's some people that are like I'm stuck in my job and I don't feel like I can stair step or I don't have the opportunity to stair step out of it or you know can't so I love that for you because that's like also very relatable you know so how did how did that look for you? 00:36:41.039 --> 00:37:07.840 You know like I think that that's an interesting thing to talk about too you know yeah yeah definitely I mean you know um for for me I I've always known that acting or or really just any sort of creative um creative piece like because I I also do like digital art and I I'm a writer as well and I and I do poetry um I've always known that there's a creative aspect of myself. 00:37:09.039 --> 00:37:39.440 And when I when I finally became like a full-time teacher and again teaching was it was also a dream of mine um it started I started to realize how much I needed the creative space to kind of keep me going in a way um and that whenever I was doing anything creative it it just made me feel so much more alive. 00:37:40.639 --> 00:38:25.039 And after after two years of of full-time teaching I just decided to you know I asked myself I I asked myself in this one life that I am going to live you know um do I do I want to live it doing what I truly truly love to do or I mean do I want to focus just on like the the income stability just something that's gonna keep me you know keep me keep me housed and and all of and all of those things and I feel like in some ways that's a really radical question to ask yourself. 00:38:25.679 --> 00:38:44.880 Um and I did just come to the conclusion of if I could make my this you know basically I came to the conclusion that art and creativity and and acting that that is really where my passion lies and if I can make that my livelihood then I want to make that happen. 00:38:45.119 --> 00:38:46.960 But how am I gonna make that happen? 00:38:47.119 --> 00:39:03.519 Um I I I really did have to look at my situation logically and just speaking for myself um I was I'm fortunate that my partner has a has a job that is able to support the both of us even if even if I just straight up quit teaching. 00:39:03.920 --> 00:39:16.239 Um and you know I I chatted with my partner about that too because it was like you know I this is something I'm thinking of doing um it will probably impact our finances and so we should probably have a conversation about that. 00:39:16.400 --> 00:39:31.199 And and he was really supportive and you know he he was like hey like our income or his income could support us both and so if I want to try you know going part time and just see where where it's at like go ahead and do that. 00:39:31.519 --> 00:39:59.440 And so um yeah that's how and I gotta also you know give props to the folks at my school who were like yeah they're like like yeah we recognize that you you have a life outside of teaching too and if there's this other pathway you want to explore like we also want to give you the flexibility to do that um while still you know keeping your your foot in the door here at um at my current job. 00:39:59.599 --> 00:40:00.320 So that's cool. 00:40:00.559 --> 00:40:28.239 It was just a lot of understanding and communication from other folks um and I think just being in a really fortunate situation because I know that for a lot of people that is not something that they can just do, you know um so so yeah um and so now I'm at this place of part-time teaching part-time voiceover and actually now I'm starting to have conversations about it is it now time to go full-time voiceover? 00:40:28.559 --> 00:40:36.079 Um I'm not sure yet about the answer to that but though that is the question that I'm starting to you know linger on more and more these days. 00:40:36.320 --> 00:40:36.639 Yeah. 00:40:37.039 --> 00:40:53.440 I want to go ahead one I want to say good for you uh I'm glad that you have like a job that's supportive of like you uh you pursuing the other thing that you care about. 00:40:54.400 --> 00:40:54.639 Thank you. 00:40:54.719 --> 00:41:00.880 Yeah yeah because I I did not I did not think that conversation was going to go that way and I'm very glad that it did. 00:41:01.280 --> 00:41:19.679 Very relatable too yeah the other thing is while you were talking about that before you got before we it was right after you talked about like do you want to focus on what you really want or the income stability you know in that regard you reminded me and I need to move this sticky note because I never look this way when I'm in the booth. 00:41:19.840 --> 00:42:22.719 I have a sticky note right here uh in my booth that says act or die trying yes yes probably it should have it like on my screen it was like good for you I'm good for you I mean it also says something about the fact that like you're you were not afraid to ask you know like you were like okay what's gonna make me happy and recognizing that right and then and then expanding and going to your partner who's your partner and you have to do it together and you know being on the same page and then saying okay now take the next step and I'm gonna go to my

school and say I am passionate about teaching but I have another passion that I'd like to see and then being open to allowing you to go part-time you know so like all the pieces kind of fit together but you know you asked and you put yourself out there and you created opportunities for yourself to expand into what you really wanted to do. 00:42:22.880 --> 00:42:31.199 You know you kept and I think and then in you know and it's awesome that like the path opened up for you and all the stars aligned, you know? 00:42:31.440 --> 00:42:36.400 Um that's also very cool, you know, but like that first step you gotta like do it. 00:42:36.559 --> 00:42:47.360 You know it's like Yeah definitely and I and I guess the other part with the ask is uh truly the the worst thing is that I could have just been told no. 00:42:47.440 --> 00:43:44.400 Yeah you know and then it's like okay well then then at least I know that like all right maybe maybe part-time teaching is not an option right now then what then what what do I need to do next then but yeah asking can be scary so scary um but sometimes that is the that's the first step that you need to take and it is and it could work out you know and it could not but it also could yeah exactly and you have a supportive partner too that is you know and that's also a big a big deal you know yeah and um and like you said yeah I you know I and I have a day job and I had to pivot like so I I was I'm the opposite of you where like I had um I went into voice acting full time you know like training and stuff because I was like an at-home mom and and I wanted to that was the passion I wanted to pursue and I had a partner who you know could support us financially and he was like yeah just do it before I actually went back into the corporate world. 00:43:44.639 --> 00:43:53.599 But I have to tell you though that I went back to the corporate world I pivoted but it's like adjacent to what we do right so it's not so far off of what we do. 00:43:53.840 --> 00:44:08.159 And um you know I I just think like you know and I'm trying to advance in my corporate job and it's like you know Again, you gotta ask, you gotta knock on the door, you gotta keep moving, you're gonna get rejection, you know, and then another rejection. 00:44:08.239 --> 00:44:20.559 And then like you find the right people that are supporting you in a positive way to keep you going and moving through because and then eventually you're like, oh yeah, okay, this is actually working, you know. 00:44:21.119 --> 00:44:22.480 But it's scary. 00:44:23.280 --> 00:44:24.079 All of it is scary. 00:44:24.320 --> 00:44:25.119 It totally is. 00:44:25.280 --> 00:44:26.400 It totally is. 00:44:26.639 --> 00:44:30.639 I I feel like that is always the uh what what do you call right? 00:44:30.719 --> 00:44:33.119 The the starving artist, right? 00:44:33.280 --> 00:44:39.360 Like anyone who works in some sort of creative field, like I'm sure can empathize. 00:44:40.400 --> 00:44:41.519 Yeah,

it's all scary. 00:44:41.679 --> 00:44:43.519 Do you do you like being on camera? 00:44:43.599 --> 00:44:48.719 I know you mentioned that you did theater and and on camera and but you your passion is in voiceover. 00:44:48.880 --> 00:44:53.519 Like, do you like being on camera and and up on stage? 00:44:53.840 --> 00:45:01.840 Yeah, I I you know, I would say I would say theater probably is maybe my my my go-to. 00:45:02.079 --> 00:45:06.960 Like if I could only do stage acting, put me in coach, you know. 00:45:07.119 --> 00:45:09.599 Um I I love on camera stuff too, though. 00:45:09.679 --> 00:45:12.079 It's like like, you know, they're they're all so different. 00:45:12.239 --> 00:45:12.400 Yes. 00:45:12.800 --> 00:45:19.119 Um performing live in front of a crowd, um, having these big cameras up in your face, and and then working behind a microphone. 00:45:19.199 --> 00:45:21.760 Like they're all different um environments. 00:45:21.920 --> 00:45:26.239 And um I love whenever I can break out of my booth a little bit. 00:45:26.400 --> 00:45:26.639 Yeah. 00:45:26.800 --> 00:45:28.239 Uh so yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:45:28.639 --> 00:45:32.159 Whatever makes your your heart sing creatively, you know, it's like, yeah. 00:45:32.400 --> 00:45:35.280 Absolutely I I accidentally stumbled into on camera. 00:45:35.360 --> 00:45:38.960 My, you know, so it was like I was voiceover and accidentally stumbled into on camera. 00:45:39.119 --> 00:45:45.199 And and two, like have some more tools in my toolbox for voiceover, you know, and then it's like, but it's so fun. 00:45:45.280 --> 00:45:49.840 And like Lloyd's an improv and he's doing stage work and Gabby's all a little bit on camera, you know. 00:45:49.920 --> 00:45:59.920 So it's like, you know, it's just it's like sometimes at whatever g you get into creatively, you know, creatively, it's like you just have to s see what unfolds too, you know. 00:46:00.159 --> 00:46:06.960 And back to your um convention work, um, you know, like I don't know. 00:46:07.119 --> 00:46:11.599 I mean, is is it scary though, putting like sitting there? 00:46:11.679 --> 00:46:12.320 Like, I don't know. 00:46:12.400 --> 00:46:17.199 Like, I to me it's like I would be terrified to be out of my booth. 00:46:17.360 --> 00:46:21.360 I mean, there's something to be behind it's something to be said to be on set, you know? 00:46:21.679 --> 00:46:22.000 Sure. 00:46:22.079 --> 00:46:22.320 Yeah. 00:46:22.559 --> 00:46:37.119 And there's like, you know, there's cameras in your face and there's people around you, but like, you know, or like on stage, and like you said, there's an audience in front of you, but like when you're in conventions, like there's no barrier between you and people. 00:46:37.920 --> 00:46:40.159 No, I mean that's that's totally true. 00:46:40.320 --> 00:47:02.159 Um I I would say that uh it's not it's not that I am am scared about being in um uh in those kinds of spaces, but you are right though, that like when you when you're at those conventions and you are engaging with people face to face, um that there yeah, there is no barrier. 00:47:02.320 --> 00:47:13.039 And I have always wondered like what do I do if there's someone that comes up that I do not feel comfortable like having in my space. 00:47:13.440 --> 00:47:15.679 And and it and it does happen. 00:47:15.760 --> 00:47:17.360 Um, unfortunately, it does. 00:47:17.599 --> 00:47:30.400 Um but I I think that that is why, you know, getting to know the um convention staff and particularly like the guest relations folks that you're working with um is super important. 00:47:30.559 --> 00:47:37.039 I think that's why it's really important that conventions have a really strong guest relations team and security team. 00:47:37.360 --> 00:48:15.760 Um because I I I have had some really, really great experiences with the um, you know, the guest uh handlers and um the gr the guest relation folks like looking out for all of us, um making sure that you know um if if we find ourselves in a a tricky, you know, situation, uh we like some conventions I've gone to, they've told us like different codes that we could use, or you know, if we need some help, um like oh, you know, can I order can I order this one drink or something, then they they would know exactly what to do, they'd get security over right away. 00:48:16.159 --> 00:48:30.159 Um and so when I when I get to know the people who are, you know, putting the convention together and looking out for us um guests, whether it's the cosplay guests or the voice actor guests, um that always makes me feel you know a lot better. 00:48:30.239 --> 00:48:30.800 But that's good. 00:48:31.199 --> 00:48:45.519 But you know, you are right though, that like um anything can happen in these in in these spaces, and so there's a little bit uh piece of you that needs to be like uh socially aware and cognizant about everything that's happening around you. 00:48:46.719 --> 00:49:06.159 So you do anime and voice you do well, voiceover is the main genre, obviously, but then you like break and then you go into anime and video games and you do you do um dubbing, and that's like also like a a very um you know, you have to be trained to have that skill to do dubbing, you know. 00:49:06.320 --> 00:49:07.440 And then also indie. 00:49:07.760 --> 00:49:08.400 You do indie. 00:49:08.480 --> 00:49:12.800 So do you do indie, do you work with indie artists for voiceover and film? 00:49:13.119 --> 00:49:14.079 And yeah, okay. 00:49:14.159 --> 00:49:15.760 So Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:49:16.000 --> 00:49:19.440 So you're trained in all of that, and which one do you love the most? 00:49:20.000 --> 00:49:26.800 I mean, I've I've gotta say, even though it doesn't pay the most, is is definitely dubbing. 00:49:26.960 --> 00:49:27.360 Yeah. 00:49:27.599 --> 00:49:30.639 Um I I I'm a nerd. 00:49:30.800 --> 00:49:37.679 I grew up, you know, watching watching anime, reading manga, reading comic books, like playing

video games. 00:49:37.920 --> 00:49:52.480 Um, and I just I think it's so cool um being able to, you know, loc like localize these works like in into English to make those stories more accessible for for folks. 00:49:52.559 --> 00:49:58.639 Um, because that's you know, that's how I that's how I watched anime growing up, watched anime dubbed, you know. 00:49:58.880 --> 00:50:06.639 Um actually like uh watched a lot of anime dubbed in Tagalog, the the Filipino language. 00:50:06.800 --> 00:50:12.159 And so um You speak fluent, you speak fluently, like yes? 00:50:12.480 --> 00:50:13.599 I wish I could. 00:50:13.840 --> 00:50:19.519 I can understand it fluently, um, but I I wish I could, but I cannot speak it. 00:50:19.760 --> 00:50:21.360 I cannot speak it fluently. 00:50:21.599 --> 00:50:24.079 Um but yeah, I I love dubbing. 00:50:24.159 --> 00:50:25.119 It's so fun. 00:50:25.519 --> 00:50:28.000 It's interesting because like half my house is divided. 00:50:28.079 --> 00:50:39.039 Like sometimes some of them well, a couple of them like to like they want to hear the the native language in like when they're watching the show, and then they just want to like read what is it, the caption, right? 00:50:39.119 --> 00:50:40.400 Like oh yeah, the subtitles. 00:50:40.639 --> 00:50:50.559 Yeah, and then and then and then the and then the other half, like they want the dub, you know, they want to hear it dubbed in English, and so that's like a whole thing too, you know. 00:50:50.800 --> 00:50:51.840 Oh my gosh. 00:50:52.559 --> 00:50:54.480 My my household's divided too. 00:50:55.119 --> 00:50:57.360 That's like the forever debate though, right? 00:50:57.440 --> 00:50:58.639 Like dub or dub. 00:50:58.960 --> 00:51:00.719 Honestly, it could be both. 00:51:00.880 --> 00:51:02.719 Like, you know. 00:51:03.039 --> 00:51:06.320 Um, I I prefer to watch things dubbed that way. 00:51:06.400 --> 00:51:10.320 I I can just pay attention to what's happening on screen. 00:51:10.559 --> 00:51:17.199 But you know, sometimes there's really great series that ha have never been dubbed or or movies that have never been dubbed. 00:51:17.360 --> 00:51:19.039 I will watch them with the subs. 00:51:19.119 --> 00:51:20.880 That is totally okay. 00:51:21.440 --> 00:51:30.960 One thing I love about this conversation is the fact that so I'm I generally am a dub person unless I cannot find the dub. 00:51:31.119 --> 00:51:31.280 Right? 00:51:31.519 --> 00:51:31.920 Okay, yeah. 00:51:32.400 --> 00:51:33.519 Maybe it's not dubbed yet. 00:51:33.760 --> 00:51:52.880 Totally um, and and um that is mainly because, and I feel like I've said this before, um, actually, I know I've told this story before, so I won't tell the entirety of the story, but talking to another voice actor who was in a show asked me if I had watched anything interesting, and I was like, Yeah, I just watched this show. 00:51:53.039 --> 00:51:55.280 And they looked at me like I was crazy. 00:51:55.920 --> 00:52:12.400 Because I was like, Oh, what do you think about and they were in the show, and they're like, You watched it dug, you watched it subbed because you would have known that I was in the show if you had, and then they were it was Brandon Spring Mukai, and he's like, he's like, You have to consume the content if you want to do the work. 00:52:12.639 --> 00:52:14.239 Oh my gosh, it's so funny. 00:52:14.480 --> 00:52:15.039 What show was it? 00:52:15.920 --> 00:52:18.079 It was um ranking of kings. 00:52:19.119 --> 00:52:21.679 Oh, I think I need to watch that. 00:52:21.840 --> 00:52:23.920 It's been on my list forever. 00:52:24.320 --> 00:52:25.920 It's my desktop background. 00:52:26.559 --> 00:52:27.360 Oh my gosh. 00:52:28.239 --> 00:52:31.920 But it but I I am mainly a dub person because of that. 00:52:32.239 --> 00:52:39.840 Meanwhile, yeah, people watching sub is very funny to me because there are a lot of people who will be like, oh, the dub is so bad, I need to watch the sub. 00:52:40.639 --> 00:52:50.320 And I love the conversations where they're like, oh, the dub was so bad, the Japanese is better, and then you talk to like fans in Japan, you're like, the acting was so bad. 00:52:50.559 --> 00:52:54.239 Like it's like you don't understand, you don't know that language, you don't know the language. 00:52:54.800 --> 00:52:56.559 You don't know the new act acting exactly. 00:52:57.039 --> 00:52:59.760 You know, it's always so funny to me. 00:53:00.159 --> 00:53:12.239 And I gotta say that like doing um doing localization work, you know, now I've been I've have the opportunity to look behind the scenes of how these dubs come together. 00:53:12.559 --> 00:53:29.119 It's like there are people who don't understand that there is a process, you know, from from translating the the original material into English, and then the phrases or words that might not have a perfect English one-to-one translation. 00:53:29.440 --> 00:53:31.280 We gotta get a little creative there. 00:53:31.360 --> 00:53:35.760 And and then you layer the actor's performance on top of everything. 00:53:35.840 --> 00:53:41.920 Like there really is a process, and I really appreciate that process when it comes to to dubbing. 00:53:42.000 --> 00:53:43.760 So yeah, yeah, that's so cool. 00:53:44.320 --> 00:53:47.039 No, you do mostly dubbing for anime, right? 00:53:47.119 --> 00:53:51.199 So anime, like in in terms of like um animated shows, right? 00:53:51.440 --> 00:53:55.679 But do you do do you have you done any dubbing for like live action? 00:53:56.000 --> 00:53:57.519 Yeah, because I've got trained for that. 00:53:57.679 --> 00:53:59.039 That's also different, right? 00:53:59.599 --> 00:54:01.119 Because you're you're an actor on camera. 00:54:01.280 --> 00:54:04.239 Yeah, you're an actor on camera and you're a theater, you know, actor. 00:54:04.400 --> 00:54:05.039 So yes. 00:54:05.360 --> 00:54:08.800 That would be a something I would could see you doing. 00:54:09.199 -->

00:54:14.400 Yeah, and uh it is it's really fun because they they're they are so different. 00:54:14.800 --> 00:54:21.119 Um of course with any sort of voice uh with any sort of voice acting, there's always some level of physicality to it. 00:54:21.199 --> 00:54:39.679 But I would say when I'm doing live action dubbing, there's just a little bit more because you you really need to, you know, if if someone on screen is is running or if they're if they are if they're eating something and talking, um you need to make sure that the performance is natural. 00:54:39.840 --> 00:54:43.920 Um because it's it's you know, it's not it's not a cartoon, it's not an animation. 00:54:44.239 --> 00:54:52.559 Um these these are real life people doing like real life things that you can see actually work sound in real life. 00:54:52.639 --> 00:55:08.960 And so um yeah, it it's a little I I would say it's a little more tricky to do sometimes through through voiceover because you, you know, you are still you're acting with your voice still, but there there's a live person there and there's a balance. 00:55:09.440 --> 00:55:10.719 It's a lot, but it's it's difficult. 00:55:11.119 --> 00:55:13.440 I do enjoy the live action dubbing too. 00:55:13.760 --> 00:55:14.079 Yeah. 00:55:14.239 --> 00:55:17.039 I I took a couple classes to do that, to learn how to do that. 00:55:17.199 --> 00:55:42.239 And it's like, you know, like you said, there's also a process behind the scenes, you know, watching the scene, watching the person act in their native language, and then you know, the the line that goes across with like the translation of English, you know, from the native language to the English, and and then you know, if someone's like, ah, you know, like you I mean, anyways, I mean that I know that also happens in the animated stuff, but of course, yeah, yeah. 00:55:42.400 --> 00:55:43.679 But anyways, that's that's so cool. 00:55:43.760 --> 00:55:45.199 Okay, Lloyd, you have a question. 00:55:45.519 --> 00:55:47.519 I can see because we're we're winding down, we're getting close. 00:55:47.840 --> 00:55:48.880 That's why I wanted to ask the question. 00:55:49.119 --> 00:55:50.000 Yeah, go, go, go. 00:55:50.559 --> 00:55:59.280 So um, if there is anything that I mean, manga 2, um what would be like your dream role right now? 00:55:59.840 --> 00:56:00.719 Oh, that's a good thing. 00:56:01.039 --> 00:56:10.079 Oh there's two franchises that I would just I don't know what I would give to be in those franchises. 00:56:10.320 --> 00:56:10.719 Everything. 00:56:10.880 --> 00:56:11.360 I don't know. 00:56:11.599 --> 00:56:19.119 I would love to be in anything Star Wars or um the Avatar The Last Airbender universe. 00:56:19.679 --> 00:56:25.360 Um any any of those two things are like two of my most favorite franchises. 00:56:25.920 --> 00:56:28.639 Um and I also want to be a villain. 00:56:28.960 --> 00:56:33.440 I never get to I never get to voice villains. 00:56:33.840 --> 00:56:35.280 Like I I get it. 00:56:35.440 --> 00:56:39.280 I sound like this, but like I could do a really good villain too. 00:56:39.679 --> 00:56:41.920 You could probably yeah, I think I think so too. 00:56:42.079 --> 00:56:42.880 You could do a villain. 00:56:43.119 --> 00:56:46.239 That would be a cool like vocal tone to a villain. 00:56:46.320 --> 00:56:46.880 You know what I'm saying? 00:56:47.119 --> 00:56:53.840 Like it's like have you ever seen Yes, yeah, Nui? 00:56:54.960 --> 00:56:58.079 Yes, yes, very similar, right? 00:56:58.239 --> 00:57:00.400 But very, very menacing character. 00:57:01.679 --> 00:57:04.000 I still I hate that I have her theme. 00:57:04.159 --> 00:57:10.960 One of my friends used to make fun of me because I get so mad over that character, and I have like her theme in my head. 00:57:11.280 --> 00:57:15.280 So, hey, the opportunities are no, you're right, you're right. 00:57:17.920 --> 00:57:19.360 You're a writer and an artist. 00:57:19.519 --> 00:57:23.840 Like you could maybe, like, you know, you could maybe create your own, you know. 00:57:24.400 --> 00:57:25.760 That's so true. 00:57:26.239 --> 00:57:26.559 Yeah. 00:57:27.360 --> 00:57:31.519 And there may there may or may not be something that I might be trying to put together. 00:57:33.679 --> 00:57:34.639 Whoa, okay. 00:57:34.800 --> 00:57:39.360 Well, maybe we'll have to have you back on and and you can share further because I know. 00:57:41.679 --> 00:57:51.679 And as we wind down, we always like to do like a fun question at the end of it, and it's kind of a round table thing, and sometimes it sparks a little bit more conversation, so we can go a little over. 00:57:51.840 --> 00:57:54.079 Um, what you just have to pick a number, Abby. 00:57:54.159 --> 00:57:58.239 You get to pick whatever number you want, and it goes it goes to like a high range of numbers. 00:57:58.480 --> 00:57:59.679 So you tell me. 00:57:59.840 --> 00:58:04.719 One to I'm not sure exactly how far we go, but just pick a number. 00:58:06.480 --> 00:58:07.440 11. 00:58:08.079 --> 00:58:09.519 And I'm scrolling back. 00:58:09.760 --> 00:58:10.079 Okay. 00:58:10.559 --> 00:58:14.000 Uh oh my gosh. 00:58:14.159 --> 00:58:15.360 Okay, this is a good one. 00:58:15.519 --> 00:58:16.559 Okay, I like it. 00:58:16.639 --> 00:58:22.960 Uh, who do you think will be playing on the oldies radio in 30 years? 00:58:23.280 --> 00:58:25.039 Oh my gosh. 00:58:25.519 --> 00:58:27.920 Um that's kind of funny. 00:58:28.639 --> 00:58:29.519 That is funny. 00:58:29.679 --> 00:58:30.960 That's hilarious. 00:58:32.239 --> 00:58:36.480 Maybe like maybe like Bruno Mars. 00:58:36.639 --> 00:58:37.599 I don't know. 00:58:39.360 --> 00:58:42.079 He could be old in less than 30 years, really. 00:58:42.400 --> 00:58:44.960 I mean Yeah. 00:58:45.599 --> 00:58:46.239 Yeah. 00:58:46.480 --> 00:58:51.119 I feel like 20 years, it immediately is on an oldie station. 00:58:51.360 --> 00:58:52.000 Yeah, yeah. 00:58:52.239 -->

00:58:52.400 Yeah. 00:58:52.960 --> 00:58:53.280 Right? 00:58:53.760 --> 00:58:54.800 Um, we've talked about this. 00:58:54.880 --> 00:58:59.119 I'm already experiencing bands that I listen to that are like now classic rock. 00:58:59.199 --> 00:58:59.920 And I'm like, what? 00:59:00.559 --> 00:59:01.440 That's no. 00:59:02.400 --> 00:59:03.199 No classic. 00:59:03.440 --> 00:59:04.079 That's not classic. 00:59:04.239 --> 00:59:05.440 Green Day is not classic. 00:59:05.519 --> 00:59:06.719 What do you read together? 00:59:07.280 --> 00:59:10.159 And then you think about it and you're like, wait, wait. 00:59:10.400 --> 00:59:10.800 Yeah. 00:59:11.119 --> 00:59:12.880 Maybe it is classic. 00:59:14.000 --> 00:59:14.639 Lloyd? 00:59:15.199 --> 00:59:16.079 Oh, uh. 00:59:18.800 --> 00:59:21.280 What's a song that came out this year? 00:59:24.880 --> 00:59:25.199 Oh. 00:59:27.119 --> 00:59:28.480 Uh I know. 00:59:28.559 --> 00:59:34.480 I'm like trying to think of someone that like is recent, but I mean, you know, I already made a a comment about the go ahead. 00:59:34.800 --> 00:59:38.159 In in in 30 years, Kendrick Lamar's Not Like Us is gonna be. 00:59:38.559 --> 00:59:39.039 Oh, yeah. 00:59:39.280 --> 00:59:40.320 No, you're right, you're right. 00:59:40.400 --> 00:59:42.480 People be like, oh, that's a classic. 00:59:44.320 --> 00:59:57.280 Somebody's somebody is like somebody is gonna be talking to like their nephew or something, you're like, you don't know what LA was like in those days, which is crazy because somebody now will do the same thing about the early 90s in LA. 00:59:57.679 --> 00:59:58.239 That's so true. 00:59:58.400 --> 00:59:59.039 That's so true. 00:59:59.280 --> 01:00:00.079 That's so true. 01:00:00.320 --> 01:00:01.519 Yeah, I know, right? 01:00:02.000 --> 01:00:03.840 Gabby, do you want to weigh in? 01:00:04.159 --> 01:00:05.599 Uh yeah, yeah. 01:00:05.840 --> 01:00:13.280 Weighing into that and and that and talking about that experience, I automatically thought of Bad Bunny and the supertime halftime show. 01:00:14.079 --> 01:00:15.119 Yeah, 30 years. 01:00:15.760 --> 01:00:23.280 We're gonna be like, you have no idea like what was happening in the country, and that's that halftime show was like big. 01:00:23.599 --> 01:00:24.239 So true. 01:00:24.480 --> 01:00:25.280 Yeah, yeah. 01:00:25.440 --> 01:00:28.320 I'd have to say the chain smokers, what's who do they pair up with? 01:00:28.480 --> 01:00:36.400 Chain smokers and that one song where it's like with the tattoo on your shoulder or like in the that's literally it's the song I was thinking of. 01:00:36.639 --> 01:00:38.000 Yes, I love that song. 01:00:38.320 --> 01:00:40.079 Uh my brain won't let me. 01:00:40.159 --> 01:00:45.599 It's like uh in the mattress that you bought or something, and there's a tattoo and you're driving. 01:00:45.679 --> 01:00:46.000 I don't know. 01:00:46.079 --> 01:00:50.800 Anyways, that that would probably be considered old days. 01:00:51.920 --> 01:00:52.880 Everything I always say. 01:00:57.039 --> 01:00:57.519 What was it? 01:00:57.679 --> 01:00:58.400 What repeat? 01:00:58.480 --> 01:00:58.960 What'd you say? 01:00:59.119 --> 01:00:59.760 Closer. 01:00:59.920 --> 01:01:00.960 Yes, closer. 01:01:01.360 --> 01:01:04.639 Chain smokers 2016, it's been 10 years. 01:01:04.960 --> 01:01:06.159 I love that song. 01:01:06.320 --> 01:01:07.360 I don't know why. 01:01:07.599 --> 01:01:13.119 You know, sometimes music just like it just hits you and it like resonates in your soul. 01:01:13.280 --> 01:01:17.920 Like that's like a song that I feel like has resonated in my soul. 01:01:18.239 --> 01:01:24.159 I will say what when I hear that song specifically, it does just bring me back to a certain time in my life. 01:01:25.280 --> 01:01:26.239 Music does that. 01:01:26.480 --> 01:01:33.199 Yeah, music does that, and so do shows and like anime, like when you guys are talking about anime and you know, TV shows. 01:01:33.360 --> 01:01:42.000 You know, I grew up watching Scooby-Doo, you know, so I didn't have like anime, but you know, I mean, like there are shows and music that just takes you back. 01:01:42.079 --> 01:01:42.559 Go ahead, Lloyd. 01:01:42.639 --> 01:01:43.440 What were you gonna say? 01:01:43.840 --> 01:01:53.679 Oh, I I was just like, yeah, um, most people there's been an iteration of Scooby-Doo for like most living generations of the world. 01:01:53.920 --> 01:01:57.679 But there also have been uh anime for most living generations. 01:01:58.159 --> 01:02:01.039 I mean, it wasn't as easily accessible in America, you know. 01:02:01.599 --> 01:02:05.039 But there was definitely anime you could have watched when you were growing up. 01:02:05.360 --> 01:02:05.679 For sure. 01:02:05.920 --> 01:02:07.199 It just wasn't in America. 01:02:08.800 --> 01:02:09.440 That's true. 01:02:09.599 --> 01:02:13.840 It's definitely become way more popular in the last like, you know, five years. 01:02:14.320 --> 01:02:14.960 It totally has. 01:02:15.199 --> 01:02:18.719 I mean, it's like mainstream, I feel like, you know. 01:02:18.800 --> 01:02:34.559 I mean, it's a little piece of me that's that is sometimes like I love, I love how booming it is now, but I'm also like like, give me back those years in middle school and I was being bullied for like Excel moon, you know? 01:02:35.280 --> 01:02:41.519 Like, oh, I'm going to the computer lab to watch Naruto and it's lunchtime, and people were like, Oh. 01:02:42.000 --> 01:02:43.199 They're like, ah, look at you. 01:02:44.880 --> 01:02:52.719 Well, in in back to music, like, isn't there like a popular anime song that hit like the mainstream that is what what was it? 01:02:52.880 --> 01:02:54.559 The vampire what? 01:02:54.800 --> 01:02:58.880 There's a few that have hit like the vampire girls, I don't remember the name of it. 01:02:58.960 --> 01:03:00.800 They're like You mean K-pop demon hunters? 01:03:00.960 --> 01:03:02.000 Yes, thank you. 01:03:02.480

--> 01:03:04.559 So completely different genre. 01:03:07.280 --> 01:03:07.920 Yeah. 01:03:08.320 --> 01:03:11.360 Um different, yeah, definitely different genre. 01:03:11.519 --> 01:03:20.320 I feel like I've said this before, but fun fact uh K-pop Demon Hunters, uh the song uh I think it was Golden. 01:03:20.400 --> 01:03:21.360 Not this is what it sounds like. 01:03:21.679 --> 01:03:36.000 Golden was the first the made them the first uh female music group since Destiny's Child to claim number one on the top 100 globally. 01:03:36.320 --> 01:03:36.880 Yeah. 01:03:37.119 --> 01:03:40.400 And it's it definitely once it gets in your head, you can't get it out. 01:03:41.039 --> 01:03:41.679 Yeah. 01:03:42.559 --> 01:03:43.519 It's a good song. 01:03:43.760 --> 01:03:44.000 It is. 01:03:44.960 --> 01:03:47.280 It is really is okay. 01:03:47.360 --> 01:03:53.199 So Gabby's gonna ask the final question and then we'll wrap it up because you know, it we gotta keep things on a schedule. 01:03:53.280 --> 01:03:54.400 So go ahead, Gabby. 01:03:55.039 --> 01:04:01.039 So out of out of everything you've you've done, what's the one thing you're the most proud of? 01:04:01.599 --> 01:04:12.559 I I think as of now, um, I'm the most proud of this anime film that came out recently, just a few weeks ago, called Cocoon, One Summer of Girlhood. 01:04:12.960 --> 01:04:18.639 Um you know, it was the first theatrical release that I was a part of. 01:04:19.280 --> 01:04:44.239 And uh uh going to the theater with my family um and and my friends, because I because I couldn't make it to the LA premiere and unfortunately, but I got some of my family and friends to get together up here in Portland to go watch it and to sit there, especially with my my parents, like my my mom and dad right next to me and my little sister, and um just watching this this thing that I was able to be a part be a part of. 01:04:44.639 --> 01:04:57.280 Um and then watching the credits roll and seeing my name up there uh really um it remi it reminded me that, you know, um I I can't give up on this passion of mine. 01:04:57.519 --> 01:05:02.800 Uh, you know, what would have happened if I decided to, you know, quit two, three, four years ago. 01:05:03.039 --> 01:05:05.519 Um I'm really proud of how far I have came. 01:05:05.679 --> 01:05:14.960 Um I know my parents were really proud and I hope to continue to make more waves, um, especially for you know my fellow my fellow Filipino creatives out there. 01:05:15.199 --> 01:05:17.440 Um That's so cool. 01:05:18.320 --> 01:05:21.840 I literally I looked that up while you were talking because I was like, that sounds familiar. 01:05:21.920 --> 01:05:26.880 And I I realized I want I saw the trailer and I wanted to see it and I didn't get to go see it. 01:05:27.199 --> 01:05:28.559 It it's all it's all good. 01:05:28.719 --> 01:05:29.199 It's all good. 01:05:30.480 --> 01:05:32.400 I hope it'll be on streaming or something somewhere. 01:05:32.880 --> 01:05:35.119 Probably that's so cool. 01:05:35.280 --> 01:05:37.039 That is like a goal, right? 01:05:37.199 --> 01:05:46.480 To like see your name on the screen, you know, like with your surrounded by your family and you know, absolutely your support system, and like that's like the ultimate. 01:05:46.559 --> 01:05:47.199 So that's really cool. 01:05:47.280 --> 01:05:48.800 That's uh that was really cool. 01:05:48.880 --> 01:05:50.960 You you gave us chills, yes. 01:05:51.199 --> 01:05:53.519 Yeah, chills for sure. 01:05:54.000 --> 01:05:58.400 So thank you so much for you all. 01:05:58.719 --> 01:05:59.760 And if anyone wants to see. 01:06:00.239 --> 01:06:07.679 See your posts on social media or like find you to do voiceover stuff or indie stuff or yeah, just connect with you. 01:06:07.760 --> 01:06:09.199 How let's do the business stuff. 01:06:09.599 --> 01:06:10.800 Oh yes, yes, yes, yes. 01:06:10.960 --> 01:06:19.920 Um yeah, if anyone would like to connect with me on socials, I I think I'm on pretty much every main platform, you know, Twitter, Instagram, Blue Sky. 01:06:20.239 --> 01:06:26.559 Um it's all at hello Abby Passion uh with one S in Passion. 01:06:27.039 --> 01:06:37.360 Um also, um I didn't get the chance to bring it up earlier because we were having such really good conversation about other things, but it is October. 01:06:37.599 --> 01:06:49.760 I don't know when this episode is coming out, but October is Filipino History Month, and I am doing a little um I guess fundraiser, I guess, on on my shop at abbeypassion.com. 01:06:50.000 --> 01:07:08.639 Um if you buy a print anytime during the month of October, uh I'm gonna be donating a portion of the sales to a group called the Concerned Artists of the Philippines, which is a group of other Filipino artists and creatives who are, you know, fighting for representation and and the liberation of all Filipinos everywhere. 01:07:08.719 --> 01:07:10.480 So um that's wonderful. 01:07:10.719 --> 01:07:12.079 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 01:07:12.559 --> 01:07:13.039 I love that. 01:07:13.199 --> 01:07:13.760 That's very good. 01:07:13.840 --> 01:07:14.320 That's very good. 01:07:14.400 --> 01:07:16.400 We'll have to we'll put that in the show notes for sure. 01:07:16.960 --> 01:07:18.159 Yeah, so very cool. 01:07:18.320 --> 01:07:19.360 Thank you so much. 01:07:19.519 --> 01:07:21.199 I really appreciate you coming on. 01:07:21.519 --> 01:07:23.360 Oh, I appreciate y'all for having me. 01:07:23.519 --> 01:07:24.079 Thank you. 01:07:24.400 --> 01:07:24.880 Thank you. 01:07:26.000 --> 01:07:27.519 All right, thank you so much. 01:07:27.679 --> 01:07:28.800 It was so nice to meet you. 01:07:30.000 --> 01:07:31.360 Yeah, it was really cool. 01:07:32.079 --> 01:07:32.719 Thank you. 01:07:32.960 --> 01:07:34.960 And you know, maybe we can have you back on another time. 01:07:35.039 --> 01:07:36.159 We always like to leave that door open. 01:07:36.559 --> 01:07:37.679 Oh, well, yeah, of course. 01:07:37.760 --> 01:07:38.480 I'd I'd love to. 01:07:38.639 --> 01:07:39.440 Y'all are awesome. 01:07:39.679 --> 01:07:40.000 Thank you. 01:07:40.159 --> 01:07:40.480 Thank you. 01:07:40.719 --> 01:07:41.679 All right, bye guys. 01:07:41.760 --> 01:07:42.800 It was so nice to see you. 01:07:43.039 --> 01:07:44.239 Enjoy the rest of the journey. 01:07:44.800 --> 01:07:45.119 Bye. 01:07:45.599 --> 01:07:46.159 Bye. 01:07:46.480 --> 01:07:47.360 Thank you. 01:07:47.920 --> 01:07:49.119 Bye, guys. 01:07:49.440 --> 01:07:50.079 Bye. 01:07:50.639 --> 01:07:51.039 Thank you. 01:07:51.119 --> 01:07:51.920 I know you gotta go. 01:07:52.000 --> 01:07:53.840 Thanks for no, it's okay. 01:07:53.920 --> 01:07:55.440 Look, I'll show you where I am. 01:07:55.760 --> 01:07:57.280 I'm at an ice rink. 01:07:57.440 --> 01:07:58.480 Oh my god. 01:08:01.760 --> 01:08:03.760 That is look, and everyone's here. 01:08:03.920 --> 01:08:04.719 That's my family. 01:08:06.159 --> 01:08:09.760 I mean, they can't they can't hear you, but they can hear you. 01:08:10.159 --> 01:08:11.199 They can hear me. 01:08:11.440 --> 01:08:11.840 Oh yeah. 01:08:11.920 --> 01:08:14.159 I wish I could add that into the into the podcast. 01:08:14.400 --> 01:08:15.440 I might again. 01:08:16.319 --> 01:08:17.439 Yeah, that's cool. 01:08:18.079 --> 01:08:19.359 This is my location. 01:08:20.079 --> 01:08:21.199 Can you hear the music? 01:08:21.359 --> 01:08:27.760 I feel like every time I was speaking because there's like music, I'm like, yeah, and this was really cool. 01:08:28.319 --> 01:08:37.119 Oh one time I heard like it like bled through a little bit, like one time, but then like after that, I no, no, no, I didn't even know where you were. 01:08:37.359 --> 01:08:37.520 Okay. 01:08:37.760 --> 01:08:38.159 Oh my god. 01:08:40.720 --> 01:08:41.199 Good. 01:08:42.159 --> 01:08:44.000 Oh my god, go have fun with your family. 01:08:44.159 --> 01:08:45.760 Okay, I'll see you next weekend. 01:08:45.920 --> 01:08:46.239 Bye. 01:08:48.079 --> 01:08:48.960 That's a wrap. 01:08:49.039 --> 01:08:52.079 Tune into our next episode and continue the creative conversation. 01:08:52.239 --> 01:08:57.359 Feel inspired, share this podcast with a few friends so we all organically grow and feel connected. 01:08:57.520 --> 01:09:00.880 Follow us on social media to keep up with all the creative chaos.