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Heather MacDonald has got the Juicy Scoop. When you're on
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the road, when you're on the go, Juicy Scoop is
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the show to know. She talks Hollywood tales for real life.
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Listen in, listen up.
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Woo, woo.
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Heather MacDonald. Juicy Scoop. Hello, and welcome to Juicy Scoop.
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I have returned favorite, a former office husband of mine,
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a tall, bald-headed delight, Guy Branum.
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Heather, I'm so excited to see the cute lunch sticker
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that you have on your laptop because, I mean, truly,
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it is a concept that I will always The concept
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of a half bottle of white wine being consumed with
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salads is something.
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It's everything. Yes. It's just everything.
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It means so much to me and something that is
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part of your distinctly Southern California wisdom.
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Thank you. I really appreciate that. I really miss having
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cute lunches with you, but we're going to enjoy. People
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can eat their cute lunch while they listen to us
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talking because there's so much juicy scoop to talk about. Now,
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you came in because you obviously heard about my triumphant
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return to television, which happened last night.
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Yes, you were on Name That Tune. How was that?
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I won! Oh, really? I won $ 33, 000 for Hillsides, which
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is a charity that I was introduced to by Dr. Drew,
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and it's been around for 100 years. And basically, it
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does a lot, but the thing that stands out to
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me is kids that were never adopted out of foster
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care that are young adults, they'll help them get housing services,
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career opportunities, Help, school.
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That's so awesome.
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Yeah, so really important.
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For so many people who don't have the support that
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luckier people do, being able to have people there, especially
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who will give you mental health care and be there
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for you as you're figuring out who you are, it's
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so important. I very briefly thought it was Hillsong that
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you were playing for, and I was like, oh no,
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is Heather back on her bullshit? And then I was like, no,
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this is okay.
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Okay.
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I should have known better. Heather is a Catholic. Her
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Christianity is of a distinctly Catholic flavor.
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But this is a non-denominational nice thing.
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Yeah.
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In choosing your charities as a celebrity, you kind of
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have to be pretty careful about it and make sure.
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My favorite, my favorite was when Ariana Huffington did Celebrity Jeopardy.
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She played for her own, for like the Ariana Huffington Foundation.
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And I was like, beautiful. You get that coin, Ariana.
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Yeah.
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Hillary Clinton, it's the Clinton Foundation.
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Yes.
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Yeah, that would be a little suspect. But no, anyway,
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it's the second time I've played for them.
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Heather, that is ignoring what I asked you years ago.
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If you were going to start a charity of your own,
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what would your charity do?
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And I told you, Heather's for Heather's, helping Heather's stay
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hot for generations to come, where we encourage young pregnant
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mothers who are attractive to name their daughters Heather. And
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then the money that we raise, we give them, you know,
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baby stuff, strollers.
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Yes.
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Little outfits.
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So that it's not a name that is lost.
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Because it's, you know, really in a serious.
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It doesn't go all the way of Linda.
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It's an endangered species right now. It's not happening.
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Yes.
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And, you know, I get a lot of Juicy Scoopers
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that come up to me and they're like, I'm sorry,
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but I'm not naming her Heather. I'm naming her Lily
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or something. And I'm like, it's okay. You can still
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It's not taking off, by the way. The charity is
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not doing well.
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Were you excited to be on a classic 1970s-style game show?
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Did you feel at one with all of the people
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who were on the pyramid back when you were watching
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in grade school? Like, and what songs did you have?
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I didn't watch them.
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Okay, honestly, I was really bad at it. But Kevin
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Nealon was worse. So I was going up against Kevin Nealon.
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You have a.
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Deep pop culture sense, but you also sometimes have trouble
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remembering the name of things.
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Right, so like I would go, oh my God, I
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know this is the singer, or I know this is
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the next line in the song, because they just play
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like a little, but I wouldn't know the title. And
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so honestly, I was pretty bad, but the one that
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I did that I, then god came down and blessed
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me yes and the question was um you know you
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got to go to your challenger who's kevin and and
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the song came up and they're like how many notes
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do you think that you can get it in and
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then he might say oh i can do it less
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or call your bluff and then he has a chance
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to win it and say oh now i want 10
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notes instead of five and the question had to do
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with Annie, so Annie was in the title, but I
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can't remember what the question was, but I knew right away,
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I'm like, I know it's The Sun Will Come Out Tomorrow,
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I know it, so I said, I can do it
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in one note, and everyone's like, what? Oh, that's awesome.
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And then they did it, and then I knew it, I.
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Heard- What a beautiful big dick move to get to
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pull in a classic for.
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And I got to sing.
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Yeah.
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And then they go, what's the answer? And I go, tomorrow, tomorrow,
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I love ya, tomorrow, tomorrow. And I was like, oh
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my God, I was so excited for my sister Shanna
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to see it because we were both Annie in local plays.
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Yes.
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And whenever my parents would have some real estate clients
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come over, they pimped us out and we'd have to
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sing tomorrow.
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We forget what a cultural phenomenon Annie was. I remember
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it came out when I was in kindergarten or something
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and there were so many girls in second and third
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grade who were like, this is my personality now. This
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is who I am as a person who really likes Annie.
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Yes. So I was Annie numerous times, like in summer
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plays where they do like the best of Broadway. And then,
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you know, like everyone could at least have like a part.
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You just do a couple, which is, by the way,
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kids and people running theater departments in high schools do
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best of Broadway. We do not need to see the
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entire boring thing. Just do the best of Broadway. And
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then that way, so many more kids have a solo.
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It's so much more entertaining for the parents. It's all hits.
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Well, you know that, like, we're having, like, a cultural moment. Like,
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do you know what the Jimmy Awards are?
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No, what is that?
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It's awards for high school drama.
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Oh, God.
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And, like, the presentations are always, like, ridiculous. But, like,
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Renee Rapp, who is in Mean Girls and Sex Lives
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of College Girls and is a pop star and everything
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like that, and then the kid who is in the
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Jennifer Lawrence rom-com, both won Jimmy's the same year. And
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so people are, like, saying, like, hey, look, 10 years ago,
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they won this high school award, and now they both
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have careers that are exploding.
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I love that. That's a good, like, you know, I really,
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you know, came up from my bootstraps kind of a thing.
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I thought this was kind of funny. You know how
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the new flex is that, like, I came from nothing
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and I was poor. I had no connections, whatever. And,
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you know, that's why when I win my speech, I'm
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going to be like, And to my grandmother, Kitty Morrison,
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who came over here on a boat in 1915. To
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think that I could be here a little over 100
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years later is amazing. But I was watching Paul Giamatti,
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who won for his role, which I want to see.
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But I saw him win for the Golden Globes as well.
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And he was like, this is a really important thing
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for me. I came from a family of teachers. And
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I'm like, oh, that's pretty humble on imagining like these
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two people coming home and one is teaching third grade
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math and the other one is doing the science and
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they just live in a middle class home. And so anyway,
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when he won the last time, whatever the critics choice
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or something, the reporter's like, and he goes, yes, you know,
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because I came from a family of teachers. And he's like, yes,
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your dad was the president of Yale.
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Yeah. Oh, that's hilarious.
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That's wonderful. But there were other teachers and he had
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to be a teacher to get to that place. And
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I'm like, you're still a great actor.
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But don't try to Like don't try to like, we
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got it. You probably got into Yale. I'm sure you
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did Yale drama school and I'm sure you were super
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talented and really, really good. But like, let's not sugar
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coat what this is.
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Access to, I came from nothing.
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Don't try to jump on someone's thing. Um, okay. We're
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going to get into the, the Emmys and stuff, but
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I did, uh, watch Vanderpump rules, the premiere after the
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whole scandal. It's back.
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Um, So it's out. People are going to watch it.
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And I want to say it's really... It is really good.
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They're finally not acting like anyone really works at the
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restaurant anymore, which I like.
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Yes. Because, I mean, Lisa is just reducing her presence
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in the greater Beverly Hills, West Hollywood area. You know?
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TomTom is still thriving, but, like, Lisa's shifting the business model,
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and we respect that.
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To a state where there's less taxes. Thank you, Nevada.
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Yes.
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And a better model for sure.
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But.
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Now we know about the scandal. You know that Tom
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Sandoval cheated with Rachel Raquel and so we see Ariana
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and they're living in the house together but they make
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it very clear Tom is doing that Navy SEAL show.
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I like that they didn't act like he was out
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you know polishing glasses we said it it's what's happening
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thank God we understand.
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How the reality world works this is just what these
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people do.
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Right they share their lives on TV now they started
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out as waiters it's really not that so that was
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good and um We just are starting to see them like,
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are they going to be able to go out? Are
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they going to hang out with each other? But then
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Lala starts to feel bad about Raquel. And she meets
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with Lisa Vanderpump and she goes, you know, I was
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with this guy who I thought was going to be
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the love of my life. Everyone told me I was
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the other woman, but I didn't really see it that
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way because he kept telling me what our life would
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be like together, and then in the end, her guy, Randall,
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cheated on her too, and now they're going through a
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custody battle. So she reaches out to call Raquel, and
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then she has to tell Ariana I left her an
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audio voice message. And I just kind of thought that's
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interesting for them because it's like, Ariana's like, okay, but
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she was really nice about it, but again, it's like, well,
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we all said how much we hated this girl, and
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she destroyed our lives and stuff, and now you're reaching out.
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But then also, it's a TV show. And so I
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think they're sort of giving her a little slack, even though,
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of like, okay, we get it, Lala. You don't necessarily
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really want to reconnect with this person, but it would
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be good, because they wanted to come back on the show.
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The thing is, once somebody has been sort of like
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the arch-villain of a season... they either have to be
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brought back into the fold or leave the show. You
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can't have somebody... We all got very tired of everyone
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yelling at Erika Jayne for three seasons. And it's like,
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now she's back in the heart of, like, the bosom
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of Abraham, and things are fine, and other people can
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have fights. And I think it just is necessary. And
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I also think... Also, it's Vanderpump Rules. It is, like,
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sexy people who do bad things. Like, sexy people are
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gonna do bad things.
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Yes.
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So.
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The sandwich shop, they talk about the sandwich shop.
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Are you familiar with the struggles of the sandwich shop?
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I'm not.
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Well, Ariana and Katy had always wanted a sandwich shop
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when they were both married or with their Toms. So
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when the Toms were putting together their Schwartz and Sandys,
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they were like, we should have a sandwich shop.
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Well, then the scandal broke and they're like, we're moving
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on with the sandwich shop. And they get this adorable
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little place, I think it's on Robertson, and they get
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the set designer for Nancy Meyers or her decorator to
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do it. And it's super cute. And they find all
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these yummy sandwiches. And, you know, I'm like, you should
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do a sandwich called the better half, which is just
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a half a sandwich because everyone wants a half there
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and it's, and they're getting cute teacups and everything. But
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then they had all this trouble with the city where
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they now had to scrape their patio. And then they
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didn't have permits for this. And for that, meanwhile, Ariana
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in real life, came in second with Dancing with the Stars,
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and is now Roxy Hart on Broadway, and she has
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a boyfriend in New York. And we're watching this, Peter
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and I are watching this, and he goes, wait, they're
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going to be making sandwiches? I'm like, or they can
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make $ 30, 000 on a post. I mean, I just, I
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think it's like.
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Well, do you think anytime someone on a reality show
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starts a new business, they are just thinking, this could
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be my spinoff?
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Yes and no. I think that they were like, this
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could be something that, yeah, a spinoff with cameras, but without, too. Like,
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this could be Something that can be really good and
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we could have several of them.
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I mean, the thing is, is like the passive income
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of business. I do think you have to take care
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of the business a little bit. You know, you have
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to be somebody who has a mind for that. And
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I think that if you are if you're if you're
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doing it with cameras, it makes sense. If you're doing
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it without cameras, you really need to be one of
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those people who's like because like. overhead on Robertson is
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going to be high.
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That's what I'm saying. It's going to be so hard.
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It's sandwiches. So it's not like you're making that
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money off the booze. I mean, maybe they have a
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wine and beer, like, I don't know. But then people
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were like, you know, is this, was this true?
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Yes.
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I talked to them. I know that this was a
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real intention, but that's why it's also hard. Um, when
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people have a partner in anything, whether it's a podcast
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or real estate, whatever, because one person might get another opportunity,
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like starring as Roxy Hart. And then you're like, do I,
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what do I do with this sandwich shop?
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Here's the thing though. One important factor in all of
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this is the idea of Los Angeles character breakfasts. Like
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when people from the Midwest come, having a location where
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you can go and the likelihood of you seeing one
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of the sexy people you love from television is high,
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that's a really, like that's something to bring you in.
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But if people are going to be consistently like starring
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as Roxy Hart on Broadway or spending so much time
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doing their like yoga wellness posts and integrated content, that
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they only show up for 15 minutes.
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It's a hard thing, yeah. It's a hard thing, but
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we'll see. I still would love it to open, but
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if it doesn't, I think we understand why. I don't
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think people should be mad at them for it. It's
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a frickin' pain in the ass. It's hard.
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I would like to premise this question by saying I
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have started the long drive through Atlanta.
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Real Housewives of Atlanta.
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Yes. Okay. And in learning... Like, as I go through
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and sort of, like, learn about the history of these characters,
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I realize just how many characters have had spinoff shows. And,
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you know, like, that there was Tardy for the Party,
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that there is Married to Medicine. Oh, Tardy for the Party.
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Well, you know what's happening then.
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But, yes, but my question is essentially, is Vanderpump Rules
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the version of
that Housewives spinoff show that was most successful?
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And do you think it is because Lisa was smart
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enough to center people other than herself?
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A hundred percent. She was so smart. And Brandi Glanville
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will say the whole reason it's a success is because
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of me.
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Oh, really?
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Because it was.
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Because she had the thing with Shayna, right?
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Because Shayna... Shayna, sorry. Shayna. Shayna, according to her, unbeknownst
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to her, had a thing with Eddie Cibriol and she
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did not know about Brandi Glanville or if she knew
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he was married, he was telling her he was getting divorced,
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whatever the classic.
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And.
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But then he then later on cheated with Leanne Rimes,
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who now he's been with for like 12 years or something.
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But at the time, even though he was with Leanne Rimes,
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Brandy didn't love Sheena. And then Sheena worked at the restaurant.
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So they filmed this. They knew about this. Then they
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filmed this thing. And then the way it was, it
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was the most genius thing. So, Real Housewives of Beverly
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Hills ends, and they're at a restaurant, and then they literally, like,
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go through a kitchen door and, like, end up at
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the restaurant, and then you meet all the people.
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The backdoor pilot of Vanderpump Rules is one of the
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most beautiful things I've ever seen.
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Yeah.
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Like, I really was just sort of, like, I haven't
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watched the show still, but, like, I watched the backdoor pilot,
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and I was just like, I want to watch that show.
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Well, here's the thing. It's like, Brandy could say it's
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because of me, but it's really because of Sheena. Sheena was...
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shared the honesty about it, has stuck with it. She's
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gotten married, she got divorced, she's gotten married again, she
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has a baby. I mean, she's been on this for
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the whole time doing stuff.
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Follow-up question. Yes. Just, like, as a gay man, I
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have a different relationship to sort of, like, sense of
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ownership over someone you're in a relationship with. And I
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just wonder, like, do you think that somebody like Brandy
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ends up, like, super blaming Sheena because... Eddie is the
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father of my children and there's a way that I
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can never stop. Like, why is it so easy to
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blame this person who's a stranger to you instead of
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the person who stood in front of a crowd and said,
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I will love you forever.
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Like, do you, that is such a good point. Like,
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because women are awful. Sometimes we're kind of, we're harder
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on each other. We're awful. I mean, why is it
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that there, you know, in cases women will side with
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a guy and even in a, in a fight or whatever,
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they always side with the guy. They just, I don't know.
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But I think when you have children, I imagine that
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when you have children, there's a way that, like, this
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person will always be part of your life.
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Right.
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So in many cases, people feel invested in just, like,
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keeping hold of something, you know?
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Yeah.
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And I just think with the whole thing, why the
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scan of all was so interesting is because Raquel and
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Ariana were friends. They were really close. The deception goes
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so much deeper than... Sheena meeting some hot actor and
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him being like, yeah, my wife and I live separate
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lives or whatever he said. And he was just cute
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and it was just fun and she was just an
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aspiring actress. That's like a totally different situation than going
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after your best friend's dude. It's just completely different.
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Well, like actors who have to play people in a
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couple so frequently end up cheating with each other. And
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do you think there is the same kind of like–
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heightened erotic state for people on reality shows? Do you think?
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No, I
think from what I've heard from Raquel, who's
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now speaking her truth, it was like they got together,
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they bitched about filming when they weren't together, just like
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any other coworkers. And then they were just attracted and
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they both felt it and they went for it and
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nobody stopped.
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Time is super hot.
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And it went on for seven months. Yeah. And then
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she was believing what he was saying and what she
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believed their life could be once he officially broke up
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with her. And then the reason I'm not doing it
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right now is because we are on a show and
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we got to wait for the show to end. And
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then there can be a little break and then we
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can act like we bumped into each other. I don't
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know what their plan was. Eventually we might know more.
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Everyone's given their side of the story. But what's kind
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of funny about watching it now is this still was
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done a long time ago, but they are like a
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little bit able to like, make fun of it a
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little bit just right now. It's like time does heal
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all wounds. And so I think that's kind of fun
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to watch because they are all like very funny and entertaining.
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As somebody who is not watching the show, is there
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anyone who is desperately fighting for air? It just feels
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like Skandoval has like so occupied the space. Are there any?
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No, because what's interesting is for a few years they
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tried to get different busboys and they cast people and
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they'd push these other people on us, thinking we need
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a 2.0 cast because these people are getting older and
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they may leave. Now, as you can see in this photo,
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it's only the main players. It's DJ James, Sheena, Tom Sandoval,
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Tom Schwartz, Ariana, Lala, Katie, and um lisa that's it
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i mean we're gonna see a couple other people but
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all the other people that were like you know on
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the third shift on a monday they're not coming those
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waitresses are not part of this anymore how.
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Do you feel about the place of combining whites and
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neutrals uh amongst our young sexy people i think this
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looks good i mean it like.
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I'm glad they didn't do the purple like like purple
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is the background cream is the middle i think this
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is good and then that And then that Lisa wore
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solid white pants. No, I think they all look great.
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I'm a little annoyed with everyone wearing cream at all
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times these days. It was like.
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You know what I think it is that no one
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ever thinks about?
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What?
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It is a real flex to say, I'm going to
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wear a white pantsuit with a cream trench.
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Yes.
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And I'm going to go out and eat. And I'm
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such a classy bitch.
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Who is that person?
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I'm not going to spill coffee.
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Yes.
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Who is that person? I'm not going to sit on
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a dirty bench.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Like, it's iconic.
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And it's like a rich thing, too, because I never
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think of going all white or wearing all white, but
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now I'm starting to think about it.
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Well, also, gay guys started wearing, like, cream or tan Speedos, like,
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five years ago.
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Wow.
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And it was kind of like, what, is he naked? And,
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you know.
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Oh, okay. Well, we always copy the gays. They always
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start it. So I thought it was rich ladies in
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New York. Why not? It's gay guys in West Hollywood.
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I'm Darman, and this is What Happens Next. Each week
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on the show, I.
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Sit down with extraordinary people who have faced tremendous setbacks.
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And yet somehow have found a way to turn them
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into their greatest strengths.
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the Emmys and I have police complaints filed against me.
491
00:22:37.180 --> 00:22:39.349
When your free will was about to be taken from you,
492
00:22:39.500 --> 00:22:41.670
what would you do if it was given back?
493
00:22:41.910 --> 00:22:44.789
Where did that need come from where you thought that
494
00:22:44.829 --> 00:22:45.410
you had to.
495
00:22:45.410 --> 00:22:47.769
Succeed in order to feel loved? He said, I have
496
00:22:47.789 --> 00:22:50.269
a work dad. I need a home dad. What happens next?
497
00:22:50.490 --> 00:22:51.759
When I came in, he started crying.
498
00:22:52.130 --> 00:22:56.569
Everybody in life encounters hardships. What defines them is not
499
00:22:56.630 --> 00:22:59.289
those hard moments that they go through. It's about what
500
00:22:59.329 --> 00:23:00.109
happens next.
501
00:23:00.509 --> 00:23:01.569
I decided to risk it all.
502
00:23:01.730 --> 00:23:05.619
I realized how valuable every day was. Worth the work. Listen, Dara,
503
00:23:05.630 --> 00:23:06.670
I'm not going to pull punches.
504
00:23:06.890 --> 00:23:08.859
You can use your voice even if it's shaped.
505
00:23:09.079 --> 00:23:12.319
The stories are different, but the impact is the same.
506
00:23:12.480 --> 00:23:16.339
Only one question matters. What happens next?
507
00:23:24.009 --> 00:23:26.430
So let's talk a little bit. There were several shows
508
00:23:26.450 --> 00:23:28.750
in the last two weeks. There was The Globes with
509
00:23:28.789 --> 00:23:31.730
Joe Coy. There was Critics' Choice with our girl Chelsea.
510
00:23:31.779 --> 00:23:31.990
Yes.
511
00:23:32.119 --> 00:23:36.539
And then Anthony Anderson did the Emmys. So I will
512
00:23:36.579 --> 00:23:38.380
just say I thought he did great.
513
00:23:38.660 --> 00:23:38.859
Yes.
514
00:23:38.960 --> 00:23:41.380
I thought it was whoever thought of Let's Do Old
515
00:23:41.940 --> 00:23:46.400
sitcom songs. and celebrate that versus like hard jokes of
516
00:23:46.500 --> 00:23:49.240
pointing at people in the audience was fricking brilliant.
517
00:23:49.700 --> 00:23:52.680
Well, and also having so many casts from long running
518
00:23:52.740 --> 00:23:54.400
shows that never won an Emmy.
519
00:23:54.740 --> 00:23:54.940
Yeah.
520
00:23:54.960 --> 00:23:56.880
I thought was like a beautiful thing to say, like,
521
00:23:56.980 --> 00:24:01.089
it's always funny in Philadelphia. Like, good for you. You
522
00:24:01.119 --> 00:24:05.089
get to be here. Like, remember how great you are. Right.
523
00:24:05.250 --> 00:24:06.869
It was, I thought it was really nice and it
524
00:24:06.910 --> 00:24:09.630
played to his skills because he's not, Anthony Anderson isn't
525
00:24:09.670 --> 00:24:10.319
a standup, is he?
526
00:24:10.650 --> 00:24:12.190
No, I don't think he was ever a stand-up. He
527
00:24:12.210 --> 00:24:13.450
was just always a comedic actor.
528
00:24:13.579 --> 00:24:16.259
Yeah, and so he was able to pull it off.
529
00:24:16.759 --> 00:24:21.079
I did think when they brought in Natasha Lyonne and
530
00:24:21.119 --> 00:24:25.059
Tracee Ellis Ross to do the thing from I Love Lucy,
531
00:24:25.099 --> 00:24:28.220
it was the hardest because it's an iconic comedy moment.
532
00:24:28.380 --> 00:24:31.039
You're just never going to be funnier than Lucille Ball
533
00:24:31.480 --> 00:24:35.700
and what's her name? Ethel. Vivian Vance.
534
00:24:36.130 --> 00:24:36.369
Yes.
535
00:24:36.410 --> 00:24:39.230
But I thought like, The thing is, Tracy Ellis Ross
536
00:24:39.269 --> 00:24:42.859
has those multicam skills, those sketch comedy skills of being
537
00:24:42.900 --> 00:24:45.079
able to throw herself at it, and I thought it
538
00:24:45.099 --> 00:24:48.180
was really fun. I also really liked that at the
539
00:24:48.200 --> 00:24:53.059
Critics' Choice Awards, I like jokes. I like jokes, and,
540
00:24:54.559 --> 00:24:57.480
you know, Joe Coy was in the hardest possible situation
541
00:24:57.529 --> 00:25:00.609
at the Golden Globes. It's a live show in front of, like,
542
00:25:02.140 --> 00:25:05.440
very famous people who are, even just as stand-ups, we
543
00:25:05.460 --> 00:25:09.009
understand that sitting at tables and having food and drinks
544
00:25:09.049 --> 00:25:09.549
in front of you.
545
00:25:09.569 --> 00:25:10.809
Right, is not our deal.
546
00:25:10.890 --> 00:25:13.910
It's the worst. It's the worst possible situation, and he
547
00:25:13.950 --> 00:25:16.750
had very little time to put it all together, and
548
00:25:16.890 --> 00:25:18.569
it was rough to watch.
549
00:25:19.039 --> 00:25:20.279
Yeah, go ahead.
550
00:25:20.359 --> 00:25:23.420
I just love that Chelsea did it artfully, because I
551
00:25:23.480 --> 00:25:24.579
want to see it done well.
552
00:25:24.759 --> 00:25:26.359
Well, this is what I think the difference between Joe
553
00:25:26.380 --> 00:25:27.740
Coy and Chelsea is.
554
00:25:27.920 --> 00:25:28.119
Yes.
555
00:25:29.019 --> 00:25:35.089
Chelsea has... had experience of being with celebrities for many, many,
556
00:25:35.130 --> 00:25:39.450
many years. Joe Coy is really a one-man band, and
557
00:25:39.470 --> 00:25:42.880
his success is him going out and doing these enormous
558
00:25:42.900 --> 00:25:43.460
arenas for people.
559
00:25:43.480 --> 00:25:44.920
And they're building that community.
560
00:25:44.940 --> 00:25:49.329
Yeah, that people just absolutely adore him. So collaboratively, he
561
00:25:49.490 --> 00:25:51.549
certainly doesn't have the experience. But he doesn't also have
562
00:25:51.569 --> 00:25:55.690
the experience of being in the A-list celebrity world. And
563
00:25:56.089 --> 00:25:59.289
she already did it the year before. And also, she
564
00:25:59.329 --> 00:26:02.650
just was more comfortable up there or surrounded by those people.
565
00:26:02.690 --> 00:26:06.420
So once you're comfortable, the audience was more comfortable. And
566
00:26:06.440 --> 00:26:09.660
the
audience wasn't very comfortable with him because he wasn't comfortable.
567
00:26:09.720 --> 00:26:12.519
And also the idea of collaboratively. It was a situation where,
568
00:26:12.579 --> 00:26:15.450
according to him, Like, they'd offered it to several people,
569
00:26:15.549 --> 00:26:18.809
and he only got the job 10 days beforehand. And, like,
570
00:26:19.150 --> 00:26:22.349
Chelsea is used to having writers. For decades, she has
571
00:26:22.390 --> 00:26:26.009
had writers and, you know, knows how to manage them.
572
00:26:27.990 --> 00:26:32.599
Hopefully better now than 10 years ago. And clearly she does.
573
00:26:32.660 --> 00:26:36.559
Clearly she does. But, like, there is that thing of, like,
574
00:26:37.119 --> 00:26:41.440
if the call came for a big opportunity to 10
575
00:26:41.440 --> 00:26:44.119
days from now, you have worked as a writer, you
576
00:26:44.140 --> 00:26:46.950
would know exactly who, like, you would call me an
577
00:26:47.009 --> 00:26:49.950
Alison Faust, and, you know, you would know who to
578
00:26:49.990 --> 00:26:52.190
go to as your people, and the thing is, like,
579
00:26:52.250 --> 00:26:55.549
what Joe Coy does is solo work, and I think
580
00:26:55.589 --> 00:26:58.529
he just didn't immediately have, like, these are the people
581
00:26:58.569 --> 00:27:00.049
who are gonna write me killer jokes.
582
00:27:00.250 --> 00:27:02.380
If and when I get the call, I will be
583
00:27:02.390 --> 00:27:06.259
calling you, but I also will have the attitude of, like,
584
00:27:07.059 --> 00:27:09.500
if I bomb... This is still going to be the
585
00:27:09.539 --> 00:27:13.480
biggest moment in my career. For me. That's why you
586
00:27:13.519 --> 00:27:16.400
say yes, though 10 people said no. But why someone
587
00:27:16.480 --> 00:27:19.319
at a different level will turn it down. Because they're like,
588
00:27:19.400 --> 00:27:22.779
this could only hurt me. First I thought, is this
589
00:27:22.799 --> 00:27:25.529
hurting Joe Coy? And then I'm like, absolutely not. Because
590
00:27:27.089 --> 00:27:30.390
his audience is so freaking loyal. They treat him like
591
00:27:30.430 --> 00:27:32.569
a brother. And if they feel like their brother got
592
00:27:32.609 --> 00:27:35.450
a little beat up this week, they're going to go
593
00:27:35.509 --> 00:27:37.750
in droves to see his live show. And then if
594
00:27:37.789 --> 00:27:41.440
he can be funny and humble, because he can be
595
00:27:41.559 --> 00:27:44.180
very self-deprecating in his comedy. So if he can bring
596
00:27:44.200 --> 00:27:47.240
this moment to the stage, it'll be fresh. It'll be
597
00:27:47.259 --> 00:27:49.549
a fresh Hollywood story, like a Kathy Griffin type of
598
00:27:49.569 --> 00:27:53.349
Hollywood story that people love to hear. That's where I
599
00:27:53.390 --> 00:27:57.589
would go with it. I thought a better thing to
600
00:27:57.609 --> 00:28:00.289
do was to just not apologize and not say anything
601
00:28:00.329 --> 00:28:02.950
and kind of save it like Chris Rock did. But instead,
602
00:28:02.970 --> 00:28:05.230
he went and did an interview with I think it
603
00:28:05.269 --> 00:28:06.890
was with the LA times and he kind of was
604
00:28:06.930 --> 00:28:10.309
like defending his, and I'm like, I would have said,
605
00:28:10.630 --> 00:28:12.960
don't just don't do anything. Let people forget about it.
606
00:28:13.339 --> 00:28:16.720
Come out and be like, you guys, that was a
607
00:28:16.740 --> 00:28:20.579
fucking nightmare. Like, you know, whatever. And then have everyone just,
608
00:28:20.819 --> 00:28:21.759
you know, join in.
609
00:28:21.940 --> 00:28:26.579
It's so hard when the media's attention is on you.
610
00:28:27.059 --> 00:28:30.299
Like you have had those moments when there was like
611
00:28:30.359 --> 00:28:33.769
something going down and like, the media's attention is on
612
00:28:33.789 --> 00:28:36.529
you and there's such an inclination to respond and being
613
00:28:36.589 --> 00:28:38.990
able to be like self-possessed and just sort of say like,
614
00:28:39.230 --> 00:28:41.190
I'm going to control how I respond to this.
615
00:28:41.569 --> 00:28:44.460
It's really, really hard. It's much easier said than done.
616
00:28:44.660 --> 00:28:47.559
And when you're living in it and it's like, that's
617
00:28:47.599 --> 00:28:49.539
why you need just like a sober coach. You need
618
00:28:49.559 --> 00:28:51.720
like a social media coach. You need literally someone that's
619
00:28:51.740 --> 00:28:53.299
going to be like, I'm not letting you be alone
620
00:28:53.319 --> 00:28:56.140
with your phone. We're going to go to Cabo. We're
621
00:28:56.160 --> 00:28:58.460
going to da da da da. You're going to literally
622
00:28:58.500 --> 00:29:01.000
have blinders on. We're not going to let, you know,
623
00:29:01.079 --> 00:29:04.009
anybody see any of this. and think about what we're
624
00:29:04.029 --> 00:29:06.670
gonna do. But it's hard because I think you still
625
00:29:06.690 --> 00:29:08.349
have the yes man people that are kind of like,
626
00:29:08.589 --> 00:29:10.589
oh no, it wasn't that bad. A lot of people, look,
627
00:29:10.670 --> 00:29:12.150
I know there's some mean comments, but look at all
628
00:29:12.170 --> 00:29:14.789
the good ones and all of that. Like I said,
629
00:29:14.829 --> 00:29:16.849
he'll be more than fine, but he was never gonna
630
00:29:16.990 --> 00:29:22.029
be in the Hollywood, in the acting world really ever again.
631
00:29:22.170 --> 00:29:26.450
But he'll always do well as this huge, massive standup,
632
00:29:26.509 --> 00:29:28.630
in my opinion. So this is only gonna help his worldwide,
633
00:29:28.630 --> 00:29:32.880
domination at the arenas. But I thought it was so great.
634
00:29:32.450 --> 00:29:36.009
That Anthony Anderson was just like, I'm going to do
635
00:29:36.009 --> 00:29:37.130
something else.
636
00:29:37.130 --> 00:29:38.089
Yeah, I love it.
637
00:29:38.089 --> 00:29:39.690
I'm not going to approach it in that way.
638
00:29:39.710 --> 00:29:42.950
It ended up being- And he got to sing, also
639
00:29:42.970 --> 00:29:43.809
something I'd like to do.
640
00:29:43.849 --> 00:29:45.690
Wait, what did he sing? He got to sing a
641
00:29:45.710 --> 00:29:47.390
lot of the- Oh, the theme songs, yes.
642
00:29:47.410 --> 00:29:49.470
Yeah, and he wasn't even trying to be good, but
643
00:29:49.490 --> 00:29:51.250
he could still kind of carry a tune.
644
00:29:51.329 --> 00:29:54.230
Remembering how good the Jefferson's theme song is, it's just,
645
00:29:54.450 --> 00:29:55.059
I mean, it's.
646
00:29:57.700 --> 00:29:59.119
You know, he was like saying, you know, oh, I
647
00:29:59.140 --> 00:30:02.089
had a crush on 2D or talking about it. And I,
648
00:30:03.259 --> 00:30:05.039
you know, I always remember when I was writing with
649
00:30:05.059 --> 00:30:07.289
the Wayans brothers and I was like, oh, I loved
650
00:30:07.349 --> 00:30:09.210
Good Times. And they're all looking at me.
651
00:30:09.210 --> 00:30:10.069
Oh, it was the Good Times theme song, sorry.
652
00:30:10.089 --> 00:30:12.210
Yeah, they're all looking at me like, you did?
653
00:30:12.230 --> 00:30:12.309
Yeah.
654
00:30:12.890 --> 00:30:15.630
And I remember Keaton was like, I want to know,
655
00:30:15.670 --> 00:30:18.539
like growing up and watching it, like what did you think?
656
00:30:19.359 --> 00:30:21.759
And I was like 27 and I just said, I
657
00:30:21.799 --> 00:30:25.259
remember thinking I'm so jealous how close their friends live
658
00:30:25.299 --> 00:30:25.619
to them.
659
00:30:25.720 --> 00:30:26.079
Yeah.
660
00:30:26.140 --> 00:30:29.339
That they're next door. To me, I never, I didn't
661
00:30:29.400 --> 00:30:32.079
think of it as like, oh, this is what it's
662
00:30:32.160 --> 00:30:33.440
like if you don't have a lot of money and
663
00:30:33.460 --> 00:30:35.829
you live in the projects. I was like, oh, this
664
00:30:35.890 --> 00:30:38.069
is a different kind of family. And I think that's
665
00:30:38.109 --> 00:30:40.150
what was so good about those shows is that it
666
00:30:40.230 --> 00:30:42.509
exposed the world, but in a positive way.
667
00:30:42.549 --> 00:30:45.769
Well, also those network shows, you just, back in the
668
00:30:45.809 --> 00:30:48.309
70s and 80s, we just watched television and we're like,
669
00:30:48.509 --> 00:30:50.869
if this is on, it's relevant to us. And like
670
00:30:50.910 --> 00:30:53.730
there were black shows that like as a white person,
671
00:30:53.769 --> 00:30:55.839
you were just like, well, this must be relevant to me.
672
00:30:55.930 --> 00:30:58.390
It's on television. I have to tell you. Yes. There
673
00:30:58.470 --> 00:31:03.210
is a fifth season episode of Good Times where she
674
00:31:03.250 --> 00:31:05.609
goes to the doctor and there is a light-skinned black
675
00:31:05.670 --> 00:31:09.089
doctor who is very condescending
to them because of their
676
00:31:09.130 --> 00:31:14.400
social status. And she refers to them as you people.
677
00:31:14.559 --> 00:31:16.579
And there's a moment where the mom says, and who
678
00:31:16.599 --> 00:31:19.259
do you think you are? Debbie Boone? And I always
679
00:31:19.299 --> 00:31:21.410
remember that joke. And the thing is, is as a
680
00:31:21.509 --> 00:31:24.769
fat person, when you go to the doctor, doctors are
681
00:31:24.849 --> 00:31:27.750
so frequently really condescending to you and don't listen to you.
682
00:31:28.509 --> 00:31:30.710
And the number of times that I've gone back and
683
00:31:30.750 --> 00:31:33.950
watched that episode of Good Times, just to sort of
684
00:31:34.009 --> 00:31:36.029
like think about and realize that it was modeled for
685
00:31:36.049 --> 00:31:39.710
me that there are people who will be– there are
686
00:31:39.779 --> 00:31:42.359
medical service providers who will be condescending to you and
687
00:31:42.460 --> 00:31:44.920
not take you seriously and you have to advocate for yourself.
688
00:31:45.500 --> 00:31:48.160
You wouldn't think naturally or normally that this show for
689
00:31:48.220 --> 00:31:52.380
black people about issues that were relevant to African Americans
690
00:31:52.480 --> 00:31:56.140
in the 70s in the projects would be something that
691
00:31:56.180 --> 00:31:58.539
was a useful tool that I carry around in my life.
692
00:31:58.599 --> 00:32:00.579
But it is a useful tool that I carry around
693
00:32:00.599 --> 00:32:01.119
in my life.
694
00:32:01.240 --> 00:32:01.480
Okay.
695
00:32:01.529 --> 00:32:03.730
Well, this is my good time. Two good time moments.
696
00:32:03.829 --> 00:32:04.190
Okay.
697
00:32:04.309 --> 00:32:08.880
There were a few. But one was– when she's like
698
00:32:09.430 --> 00:32:14.309
fighting with her husband about something, Florence, what's her name?
699
00:32:14.329 --> 00:32:16.750
And she, she goes, a woman, a woman. And she goes,
700
00:32:16.849 --> 00:32:19.339
don't say it. Don't say it. And he goes, is
701
00:32:19.579 --> 00:32:21.779
only meant to be in the kitchen or the bedroom.
702
00:32:22.519 --> 00:32:24.900
And I remember watching that and seeing her get angry
703
00:32:24.940 --> 00:32:27.480
and being like, oh my God, you know, that people
704
00:32:27.519 --> 00:32:30.180
would think that. And like, and I'm like, you know, say,
705
00:32:30.690 --> 00:32:34.369
I also thought it was interesting that the only, that
706
00:32:34.410 --> 00:32:35.829
the girl had her own bedroom.
707
00:32:35.930 --> 00:32:36.190
Yes.
708
00:32:36.210 --> 00:32:39.420
But the boys had to share the couch because the
709
00:32:39.440 --> 00:32:41.640
girl had to have her own bedroom, which is also
710
00:32:41.839 --> 00:32:45.740
like a thing culturally that is sort of interesting.
711
00:32:46.000 --> 00:32:46.119
Yeah.
712
00:32:46.180 --> 00:32:49.140
Like, you know, that to protect her and that nobody's
713
00:32:49.180 --> 00:32:51.359
getting at her and the dark side of that.
714
00:32:51.539 --> 00:32:51.779
Yes.
715
00:32:51.799 --> 00:32:55.769
And then the other one, of course, was Janet Jackson
716
00:32:56.150 --> 00:32:58.509
playing Penny who had an abusive mother.
717
00:32:58.670 --> 00:32:58.769
Yeah.
718
00:32:58.789 --> 00:33:01.019
And I was like, Oh my God, and seeing like
719
00:33:01.059 --> 00:33:02.640
the iron mark on her back.
720
00:33:02.680 --> 00:33:04.400
Yeah, I remember that episode so.
721
00:33:04.420 --> 00:33:06.619
Yeah, and it's just like, I mean, I just don't
722
00:33:06.640 --> 00:33:10.349
know that there's kids today that watch something as a
723
00:33:10.380 --> 00:33:13.170
child and will remember it the way we're talking about
724
00:33:13.210 --> 00:33:13.789
a show right now.
725
00:33:13.809 --> 00:33:16.470
Because I think that they are, there is such effort
726
00:33:16.509 --> 00:33:20.549
made to insulate them from darker things because parents don't
727
00:33:20.569 --> 00:33:22.130
want to have to have these conversations.
728
00:33:22.269 --> 00:33:22.589
Yeah.
729
00:33:22.710 --> 00:33:24.170
And like when you think about the way that like
730
00:33:24.490 --> 00:33:27.950
primetime network television was saying like, well, now you have
731
00:33:27.970 --> 00:33:32.180
to have a talk to your kids about molestation because
732
00:33:32.779 --> 00:33:38.890
Arnold went to the bike shop and yeah. We all
733
00:33:38.930 --> 00:33:44.529
remember What's-Her-Name on Punky Brewster getting locked in the refrigerator.
734
00:33:44.789 --> 00:33:47.329
You understand you don't play in a refrigerator.
735
00:33:48.650 --> 00:33:51.880
Yeah. Well, I remember I wrote a paper at SC
736
00:33:52.200 --> 00:33:58.099
about how depressing, how many depressing storylines were in 70s
737
00:33:58.160 --> 00:34:01.220
sitcoms versus that there were like none in the 80s.
738
00:34:01.509 --> 00:34:04.549
All the 80s, like the 80 ones, they did not
739
00:34:04.630 --> 00:34:08.010
have these depressing real moments. These like, you know, one
740
00:34:08.030 --> 00:34:09.969
day at a time where she's crying and she's like,
741
00:34:10.989 --> 00:34:13.739
all these moments of Bonnie Franklin, like being a single mom.
742
00:34:13.780 --> 00:34:16.440
And we saw that in the 70s. And then the 80s,
743
00:34:16.480 --> 00:34:18.760
it was more of the positive happy, which was what
744
00:34:19.280 --> 00:34:20.960
was being fed to us.
745
00:34:21.059 --> 00:34:22.940
It is interesting because I have gone back in the
746
00:34:22.980 --> 00:34:25.099
recent past and watched a bunch of the Norman Lear
747
00:34:25.139 --> 00:34:28.019
sitcoms from the 70s and they are, so good it's
748
00:34:28.039 --> 00:34:31.699
like watching a good play like they're they're so smart
749
00:34:31.920 --> 00:34:33.739
and so funny at the same time and then i've
750
00:34:33.760 --> 00:34:36.210
gone back and watched a couple of
1980s sitcoms and
751
00:34:36.250 --> 00:34:39.769
they are just like like forgettable cotton candy.
752
00:34:39.590 --> 00:34:43.789
Yeah i know is norman lear still alive no.
753
00:34:43.929 --> 00:34:45.530
Uh i think we just we just lost him.
754
00:34:45.469 --> 00:34:49.409
Okay well let's talk about the important stuff fashion uh
755
00:34:49.809 --> 00:34:51.110
aubrey plaza wore this.
756
00:34:51.590 --> 00:34:54.929
Did you see somebody who made it the post-it?
757
00:34:54.969 --> 00:34:56.909
Yes, for Sex and the City. So she had a
758
00:34:56.949 --> 00:35:00.909
yellow dress on with this weird top of it yellow
759
00:35:01.190 --> 00:35:04.389
with a big needle through it. And someone, I think
760
00:35:05.610 --> 00:35:08.110
it's someone who runs a Sex and the City fashion
761
00:35:08.130 --> 00:35:10.820
account on Instagram, so I apologize for not. But it
762
00:35:10.860 --> 00:35:13.599
said it was the breakup post-it that Carrie got. They
763
00:35:13.619 --> 00:35:14.519
just wrote it on there.
764
00:35:14.659 --> 00:35:17.519
I mean, as somebody who worked at Fashion Police, there
765
00:35:17.699 --> 00:35:20.340
is sort of like the trauma and joy of remembering that.
766
00:35:20.650 --> 00:35:22.230
I would have had to have stayed up all night
767
00:35:22.289 --> 00:35:25.610
long writing 60 jokes just about that dress.
768
00:35:25.650 --> 00:35:27.429
Do you have some work to give us right now?
769
00:35:27.449 --> 00:35:28.489
No, I don't. I'm sorry.
770
00:35:29.389 --> 00:35:29.969
Oh, oh, oh.
771
00:35:30.190 --> 00:35:31.289
And then the pregnant girl.
772
00:35:31.309 --> 00:35:31.690
She said.
773
00:35:31.710 --> 00:35:32.929
Suki Waterhouse.
774
00:35:32.949 --> 00:35:34.590
Sorry, no. Go back. I have a joke. I have
775
00:35:34.610 --> 00:35:39.750
a joke. Okay. For Aubrey's post-it dress. Her stylist said, well,
776
00:35:39.769 --> 00:35:41.250
we have to figure out what you're going to wear
777
00:35:41.269 --> 00:35:43.730
in the Emmys. And Aubrey said, let's put a pin
778
00:35:43.769 --> 00:35:44.010
in that.
779
00:35:44.949 --> 00:35:45.489
Good.
780
00:35:45.510 --> 00:35:45.929
Yeah.
781
00:35:49.179 --> 00:35:53.250
This girl is pregnant, Suki Waterhouse, and she wore a
782
00:35:53.570 --> 00:35:57.449
big red gown, but basically she just had the top
783
00:35:57.489 --> 00:36:00.289
part be like a bib, like a big square bib.
784
00:36:00.610 --> 00:36:03.369
So we got a full back, side tit, and then
785
00:36:03.389 --> 00:36:05.050
you got to see the stomach from the side.
786
00:36:05.150 --> 00:36:08.389
I will say Aubrey Plaza was taking a stab, or
787
00:36:08.429 --> 00:36:12.699
a poke rather, at real fashion, and I respect it.
788
00:36:12.719 --> 00:36:15.320
It was big. This, I think, is dumb.
789
00:36:15.800 --> 00:36:18.579
This is just, listen, I do think there's something to
790
00:36:18.619 --> 00:36:21.960
be said when you just go, look, I just want
791
00:36:21.980 --> 00:36:25.119
some press. I actually don't want to look good. I
792
00:36:25.139 --> 00:36:26.110
just want some press.
793
00:36:26.269 --> 00:36:31.130
No, there's this one singer-songwriter, Bonnie something or other, Bonnie McRae,
794
00:36:31.170 --> 00:36:32.849
is that her name? She always shows up to the
795
00:36:32.889 --> 00:36:36.530
Grammys wearing the most ridiculous outfit. And on Fashion Police,
796
00:36:36.570 --> 00:36:38.780
we always covered her because she did that. And she's
797
00:36:38.840 --> 00:36:42.119
like a very successful songwriter who has a solo career
798
00:36:42.159 --> 00:36:44.139
of her own that doesn't get enough attention. And she
799
00:36:44.179 --> 00:36:46.019
would just be like, I'm gonna show up wearing something
800
00:36:46.139 --> 00:36:49.300
batshit and you're gonna cover me. And I respect that,
801
00:36:49.659 --> 00:36:53.110
but this is of the school of I'm pregnant, but
802
00:36:53.150 --> 00:36:55.329
I still have a hot body. And I think there
803
00:36:55.369 --> 00:36:57.829
are smarter ways of doing it than that.
804
00:36:58.300 --> 00:37:01.559
Well, as someone who was pregnant twice and wasn't famous
805
00:37:01.599 --> 00:37:05.340
at the time and never milked it, I wore maternity
806
00:37:05.519 --> 00:37:08.239
bathing suits. I didn't wear bikinis where my big stomach
807
00:37:08.260 --> 00:37:10.820
was at. I didn't like walk around with my stomach out.
808
00:37:11.219 --> 00:37:13.889
And I am jealous. And I do think if I
809
00:37:13.949 --> 00:37:17.190
was ever to have the second coming pregnant again, I
810
00:37:17.250 --> 00:37:19.750
would be milking it out and walking around the earth
811
00:37:19.789 --> 00:37:21.730
like I'm the only person that's ever given birth, which
812
00:37:21.809 --> 00:37:22.949
is what a lot of people do.
813
00:37:23.090 --> 00:37:26.389
I love when somebody– I just like be a little
814
00:37:26.429 --> 00:37:29.429
bit cheekier about it. Have a little bit more fun
815
00:37:29.449 --> 00:37:31.090
with it. This is just kind of.
816
00:37:31.190 --> 00:37:32.730
It's not cute. This is not cute.
817
00:37:32.809 --> 00:37:35.570
It's not cute. I mean, the way that that skirt
818
00:37:35.590 --> 00:37:38.530
just goes enormous underneath.
819
00:37:38.570 --> 00:37:40.469
I'm just imagining the gapping when you sit down.
820
00:37:40.570 --> 00:37:40.829
Yes.
821
00:37:41.610 --> 00:37:44.889
This was Princess. She's a drag queen and she went
822
00:37:44.949 --> 00:37:47.719
as a green goblin with like extreme makeup.
823
00:37:48.500 --> 00:37:51.260
I think this is beautiful. Drag Race always- And Drag
824
00:37:51.300 --> 00:37:54.360
Race won. Drag Race so frequently wins for makeup. And
825
00:37:54.500 --> 00:37:57.639
I think show up with your skills. The wonderful thing
826
00:37:57.659 --> 00:37:59.760
about drag queens is that they can turn themselves into
827
00:37:59.780 --> 00:38:00.489
beautiful women.
828
00:38:00.570 -->
00:38:00.889
Yes.
829
00:38:01.010 --> 00:38:04.340
But also you can do anything with it. Like just
830
00:38:04.460 --> 00:38:07.179
having her in the background of shots as a goblin
831
00:38:07.280 --> 00:38:08.159
was thrilling to me.
832
00:38:08.440 --> 00:38:10.539
And I think the best thing about RuPaul's Drag Race,
833
00:38:10.840 --> 00:38:12.480
and they just sent me this great packet. So I
834
00:38:12.500 --> 00:38:13.579
got a cute sweatshirt.
835
00:38:13.599 --> 00:38:15.360
You judged, right? Oh, you were on Snatch Game.
836
00:38:15.460 --> 00:38:17.239
I got to be on Snatch Game. I got a sweatshirt.
837
00:38:17.280 --> 00:38:20.059
I got a cute t-shirt. It's on MTV now. Ross
838
00:38:20.199 --> 00:38:22.059
Matthews is now a producer. So he got an Emmy.
839
00:38:22.480 --> 00:38:24.860
They've won like 63 Emmys or been nominated.
840
00:38:24.949 --> 00:38:25.239
I don't know.
841
00:38:25.320 --> 00:38:28.619
So many wins. But I think the best thing that
842
00:38:28.739 --> 00:38:34.320
it's done is made this art form this huge segment
843
00:38:34.360 --> 00:38:35.179
of entertainment.
844
00:38:35.309 --> 00:38:35.550
Yes.
845
00:38:35.710 --> 00:38:39.250
That these drag queens and, you know, you can go
846
00:38:39.269 --> 00:38:40.849
to a drag show, you can go to a drag brunch,
847
00:38:41.070 --> 00:38:44.630
you can go on a drag cruise. Like, they were able,
848
00:38:45.030 --> 00:38:49.400
they are able to have full-blown... entertainment careers like stand-ups do,
849
00:38:49.780 --> 00:38:52.050
and they never were before. So I think that's the
850
00:38:52.070 --> 00:38:52.730
best part about it.
851
00:38:52.750 --> 00:38:54.849
The trouble is that we are running dry. Like, our
852
00:38:54.909 --> 00:38:57.090
national supply, they do have a bunch of.
853
00:38:57.550 --> 00:38:58.849
There's no up-and-comers, you mean?
854
00:38:59.170 --> 00:39:01.480
I mean, now there are so many kids who, like,
855
00:39:01.900 --> 00:39:04.719
Learn to do makeup on TikTok, but have never performed
856
00:39:04.860 --> 00:39:07.579
in real life who go on the show. There were
857
00:39:07.619 --> 00:39:10.719
these two absolutely beautiful boys who just, they were twins,
858
00:39:11.079 --> 00:39:15.280
Sugar and Spice, and they can't even dance. They are
859
00:39:15.320 --> 00:39:18.719
good at makeup and they are beautiful, but they can't dance.
860
00:39:19.449 --> 00:39:21.030
I have a show for you.
861
00:39:21.150 --> 00:39:21.429
Yes.
862
00:39:22.969 --> 00:39:25.610
We bring back horrible Abby Lee Miller.
863
00:39:25.750 --> 00:39:26.090
Yes.
864
00:39:26.670 --> 00:39:31.500
But she's only helping- Drag moms? She's only helping drag
865
00:39:31.519 --> 00:39:34.679
moms and their kids who are at least like 15.
866
00:39:34.679 --> 00:39:36.099
Like they ought to be a little bit older so
867
00:39:36.119 --> 00:39:38.440
they know what they're doing. But she's helping them get
868
00:39:38.460 --> 00:39:39.079
their dance on.
869
00:39:39.099 --> 00:39:40.780
All right. One of the problems is, one of the
870
00:39:40.800 --> 00:39:43.559
problems is, is that it used to be that these
871
00:39:43.599 --> 00:39:47.079
drag queens came from horrible backgrounds where their parents rejected them.
872
00:39:47.480 --> 00:39:49.719
and that rage turned into art, and now they all
873
00:39:49.739 --> 00:39:51.400
have moms who sew for them, and they hate it.
874
00:39:51.880 --> 00:39:53.400
I think the answer is that we need.
875
00:39:53.460 --> 00:39:54.579
So it's become too supportive.
876
00:39:54.739 --> 00:39:54.940
Yes.
877
00:39:54.960 --> 00:39:57.739
The parents are too supportive, hence the art is not
878
00:39:57.800 --> 00:39:59.239
as good. I love it.
879
00:39:59.280 --> 00:40:02.489
We need to start fracking our gay bars. You know
880
00:40:02.510 --> 00:40:04.050
when you get to the point when there's not enough
881
00:40:04.150 --> 00:40:05.929
oil left, so you have to pump water down in there?
882
00:40:06.250 --> 00:40:09.530
We just flood water into gay bars, and then- The
883
00:40:09.550 --> 00:40:10.619
good drag queens will come out.
884
00:40:10.630 --> 00:40:12.829
Speaking of this, did you see that J-Lo showed up
885
00:40:13.230 --> 00:40:14.239
at the Abbey?
886
00:40:14.550 --> 00:40:15.110
Oh, no.
887
00:40:15.570 --> 00:40:16.239
Wonderful.
888
00:40:16.300 --> 00:40:20.719
She came with her, shoving her alcohol, Delano or whatever
889
00:40:20.780 --> 00:40:22.380
it's called. I don't even know what it is, like
890
00:40:22.400 --> 00:40:25.820
a sparkling thing. And she, you know, singing, you know,
891
00:40:25.840 --> 00:40:27.739
I can't get enough. Have you seen the video for
892
00:40:27.760 --> 00:40:28.460
Can't Get Enough?
893
00:40:28.480 --> 00:40:28.539
No.
894
00:40:30.079 --> 00:40:33.639
It is really weird and kind of bad. Oh, I
895
00:40:33.659 --> 00:40:36.059
should watch it. And, you know, I love J-Lo's music
896
00:40:36.139 --> 00:40:38.449
and I love her look. But it's about, she's kind
897
00:40:38.489 --> 00:40:40.610
of mocked. The video is her having a bunch of weddings,
898
00:40:40.670 --> 00:40:42.210
but a couple of dresses are weird. And then the
899
00:40:42.289 --> 00:40:44.900
dancing is weird. The dancing is very weird on it.
900
00:40:45.269 --> 00:40:48.429
And so she goes to the Abbey, you know, on
901
00:40:48.590 --> 00:40:51.409
Emmy weekend, and she's, you know, filling drinks. Of course,
902
00:40:51.429 --> 00:40:52.969
the comment was, I think at one point she took
903
00:40:53.010 --> 00:40:55.269
a glass and went into the ice. Okay, so that's
904
00:40:55.309 --> 00:40:57.769
a big no-no. To serve the drinks. The gays would
905
00:40:57.789 --> 00:40:59.849
have drank ice in a hot second if it came
906
00:40:59.889 --> 00:41:03.880
from J-Lo. They don't care. But, yeah, so I was
907
00:41:03.960 --> 00:41:06.699
hoping you'd be there that day. Not that you... Troll
908
00:41:06.719 --> 00:41:07.139
the bar.
909
00:41:07.159 --> 00:41:08.340
Why do I go to the Abbey?
910
00:41:08.539 --> 00:41:10.179
Never, but you missed that day.
911
00:41:10.219 --> 00:41:12.820
The famous people always go to the Abbey. And I
912
00:41:12.840 --> 00:41:15.800
just want to say there's already a picture of Liz
913
00:41:15.820 --> 00:41:18.230
Taylor up at the Abbey. You're never going to win
914
00:41:18.389 --> 00:41:20.429
at the Abbey. I want to see somebody go to
915
00:41:20.469 --> 00:41:23.469
High Tops. I want to see somebody, you know.
916
00:41:23.489 --> 00:41:24.150
Go to High Tops.
917
00:41:24.190 --> 00:41:28.090
Yes. Or Rocco's with your beloved friend Lance. Right.
918
00:41:28.110 --> 00:41:28.969
He owns Rocco's.
919
00:41:29.170 --> 00:41:29.530
Okay.
920
00:41:29.570 --> 00:41:34.570
We'll do that. This was a fluorescent green Jessica Chastain.
921
00:41:35.110 --> 00:41:38.250
It looks really good. I wore this color when I
922
00:41:38.269 --> 00:41:39.570
went on Watch What Happens Live.
923
00:41:39.610 --> 00:41:40.150
How did it go?
924
00:41:40.769 --> 00:41:42.349
Everyone said they loved it, but I have to say
925
00:41:42.369 --> 00:41:45.690
I regret it. I think neon is too trendy. It
926
00:41:45.769 --> 00:41:49.050
comes and it goes, and I may never be back
927
00:41:49.139 --> 00:41:51.860
on that show, and I wish I would have gone
928
00:41:51.880 --> 00:41:53.280
with something just more classic.
929
00:41:53.380 --> 00:41:56.940
I mean, her, with the red hair, I think it's bold,
930
00:41:57.000 --> 00:41:59.880
and also, you're Jessica Chastain, you get to go to
931
00:41:59.940 --> 00:42:00.559
movie things.
932
00:42:00.659 --> 00:42:01.760
You get to go a lot of, yeah.
933
00:42:01.780 --> 00:42:04.280
Showing up to the Emmys, you can do your B-side look,
934
00:42:04.320 --> 00:42:06.289
but I have to say, It's a very difficult time
935
00:42:06.349 --> 00:42:08.369
for Jessica Chastain right now, okay?
936
00:42:08.389 --> 00:42:08.460
Why?
937
00:42:08.829 --> 00:42:13.389
Because Greta Gerwig is our greatest Sacramentan. Greta Gerwig has
938
00:42:13.530 --> 00:42:17.369
staked out her territory as our greatest Sacramentan. And Jessica Chastain,
939
00:42:17.869 --> 00:42:22.739
repeated Academy Award nominee, Academy Award winner, Academy Award winner,
940
00:42:23.300 --> 00:42:27.039
has to be our second greatest Sacramentan. And I think,
941
00:42:27.500 --> 00:42:30.280
you know, she doesn't know how to get her way
942
00:42:30.440 --> 00:42:33.579
out of this. Like, she's stuck there in the number
943
00:42:33.599 --> 00:42:37.269
two spot. Also, I can't believe Eyes of Tammy Faye
944
00:42:37.289 --> 00:42:39.510
won an Oscar. Or whatever it was called.
945
00:42:39.969 --> 00:42:40.869
Is that what she got it for?
946
00:42:40.889 --> 00:42:42.469
She won it for the Tammy Faye movie, right?
947
00:42:42.570 --> 00:42:43.510
I loved that movie.
948
00:42:43.929 --> 00:42:44.829
Oh, I thought it was fine.
949
00:42:45.090 --> 00:42:50.530
Okay, all right. Here we are with Issa Rae. Issa.
950
00:42:50.650 --> 00:42:54.679
Issa Rae. And she went with just a big, not
951
00:42:54.719 --> 00:42:57.119
showing off the body, But a big, and she has
952
00:42:57.139 --> 00:43:00.360
a great body, big feathery thing. And I think this
953
00:43:00.440 --> 00:43:03.739
is smart. She got invited to everything. Her best dress
954
00:43:03.760 --> 00:43:07.739
was that orange, more like an orange, like crusted number two,
955
00:43:07.780 --> 00:43:09.880
I think. The golden gloves. That was like one of
956
00:43:09.900 --> 00:43:12.090
the best dresses. She showed off the body there. So
957
00:43:12.159 --> 00:43:16.900
why not just be super chic and go for it?
958
00:43:16.969 --> 00:43:21.070
That little taste of I'm hosting a late 70s variety show.
959
00:43:21.090 --> 00:43:27.849
Like there's something very... And this is what, like, Barbra
960
00:43:27.889 --> 00:43:30.449
Streisand in her late 30s would have worn. This is
961
00:43:30.769 --> 00:43:33.829
what Marlo Thomas would have worn. Like, I really love it.
962
00:43:33.960 --> 00:43:39.500
And it's too much, but also sensible. I, like, I, yeah.
963
00:43:39.699 --> 00:43:42.909
First of all, you know, don't wear black.
964
00:43:43.230 --> 00:43:43.369
Yes.
965
00:43:43.389 --> 00:43:47.039
Okay? And if you're going to a bunch of events,
966
00:43:47.159 --> 00:43:50.219
I think it's good to get your brain going and
967
00:43:50.280 --> 00:43:54.119
be like, okay, I'm going to do three really different looks.
968
00:43:54.760 --> 00:43:55.510
This was awful.
969
00:43:57.050 --> 00:43:59.369
I thought she was so cute in the little performance.
970
00:43:59.389 --> 00:44:03.130
This is Calista Flockhart, Ally McBeal. The performance was cute.
971
00:44:03.150 --> 00:44:05.710
I just think it was ugly. And then you wanted
972
00:44:05.750 --> 00:44:06.909
this dress because you loved it.
973
00:44:07.469 --> 00:44:09.929
No, I didn't. Oh, you didn't love it? I'm so
974
00:44:09.969 --> 00:44:14.130
tired of Hannah Lottingham. Okay, so the thing is, everybody's like,
975
00:44:14.210 --> 00:44:17.340
what am I gonna wear? And I feel like just size-wise,
976
00:44:17.389 --> 00:44:20.699
just capacity of the theater-wise, too many people are showing
977
00:44:20.760 --> 00:44:23.280
up to award shows saying, I'm the princess.
978
00:44:23.599 --> 00:44:23.820
Okay.
979
00:44:23.960 --> 00:44:27.309
And she has been princessing at the Emmys so hard,
980
00:44:27.789 --> 00:44:33.409
she stands up in standing ovations, everyone who gets something wins. She, like,
981
00:44:33.489 --> 00:44:35.269
makes it about her a lot.
982
00:44:35.590 --> 00:44:37.309
Do you think she's what the kids would call a
983
00:44:37.349 --> 00:44:37.969
pick-me girl?
984
00:44:38.639 --> 00:44:41.320
I mean, a little bit. Like, I think she's a
985
00:44:41.460 --> 00:44:44.800
theater girl. Like, remember her acceptance speech from, it was
986
00:44:44.820 --> 00:44:46.440
the Emmys of the Globes a couple of years ago,
987
00:44:46.460 --> 00:44:49.619
where she was like, you know, more people should hire
988
00:44:49.699 --> 00:44:53.679
West End actors. And I think she is, to her bone,
989
00:44:53.820 --> 00:44:54.929
a West End actor.
990
00:44:55.789 --> 00:44:59.070
More people should give girls from South of the Boulevard
991
00:44:59.090 --> 00:45:05.269
in the Valley Emmys. Thanks. Because we have it rough.
992
00:45:05.829 --> 00:45:08.030
I come from the south side of Ventura.
993
00:45:08.349 --> 00:45:10.389
I would love for her to show up in something
994
00:45:11.070 --> 00:45:14.159
at one award show and have it be big-ass fashion.
995
00:45:15.079 --> 00:45:16.760
And that's what I have to say for Aubrey Plaza.
996
00:45:16.860 --> 00:45:18.880
She didn't hit it out of the park this time.
997
00:45:18.900 --> 00:45:19.800
But she got people talking.
998
00:45:20.099 --> 00:45:23.679
Or Issa Rae showing up and being like, at this
999
00:45:23.739 --> 00:45:27.619
moment in time, I am a 37-year-old Diana Ross.
1000
00:45:27.840 --> 00:45:31.179
Appreciate it. I love it. And then I thought this
1001
00:45:31.219 --> 00:45:33.440
was a really good dress. This is Keri Russell, and
1002
00:45:33.519 --> 00:45:36.690
she did the long cape thing, which I am going
1003
00:45:36.730 --> 00:45:37.550
to do when I go.
1004
00:45:38.320 --> 00:45:38.579
Yes.
1005
00:45:38.880 --> 00:45:41.409
Why not just come big and bold? You could always
1006
00:45:41.449 --> 00:45:43.269
switch to a different dress for the after party.
1007
00:45:43.309 --> 00:45:43.590
Yes.
1008
00:45:43.769 --> 00:45:46.550
But for sitting in your seat and possibly going up
1009
00:45:46.590 --> 00:45:48.789
there to get a ward, have a train, have a cape,
1010
00:45:49.170 --> 00:45:49.909
have a bustle.
1011
00:45:49.929 --> 00:45:51.170
Do it.
1012
00:45:51.269 --> 00:45:53.300
In everything you have to say, what is my moment?
1013
00:45:53.579 --> 00:45:56.920
I just worry about, are you spilling out of your seat?
1014
00:45:57.000 --> 00:45:59.239
As somebody who in any situation will be spilling out
1015
00:45:59.260 --> 00:46:00.880
of my seat just with my physical person.
1016
00:46:01.300 --> 00:46:02.000
You don't want a cape.
1017
00:46:02.820 --> 00:46:04.320
Well, the thing is, is I think if I did go,
1018
00:46:04.389 --> 00:46:04.989
I would wear a cape.
1019
00:46:05.030 --> 00:46:11.199
Yeah, why not? And, yeah, so there you go. And
1020
00:46:11.239 --> 00:46:13.119
then this was just a classic gorge.
1021
00:46:13.239 --> 00:46:14.079
Yes, I mean.
1022
00:46:14.119 --> 00:46:19.719
Megan Fahey. And she just wore, like, this beautiful blood red,
1023
00:46:19.739 --> 00:46:24.559
just strapless. She's thin. It just was, like, so pretty.
1024
00:46:24.579 --> 00:46:25.980
This was so classic and pretty.
1025
00:46:26.000 --> 00:46:28.469
It's great. She looks beautiful in it. And, like, also
1026
00:46:28.550 --> 00:46:31.449
was one of the people who, like, at an Emmys where.
1027
00:46:31.920 --> 00:46:34.219
pretty much the people you expected to win. One, she
1028
00:46:34.280 --> 00:46:36.099
was in one of the categories that was like, this
1029
00:46:36.119 --> 00:46:36.800
is competitive.
1030
00:46:37.079 --> 00:46:40.199
Yeah, good for her. And then I thought, this is
1031
00:46:40.239 --> 00:46:40.960
Donald Glover.
1032
00:46:41.019 --> 00:46:42.050
I mean, he's good at the job.
1033
00:46:42.139 --> 00:46:43.639
And I just like, you know, and he didn't wear
1034
00:46:43.659 --> 00:46:46.889
the classic tux. He did like a little embroidery. Anthony
1035
00:46:47.110 --> 00:46:49.869
Anderson also wore like flout embroideries on a tux. I
1036
00:46:49.909 --> 00:46:50.570
kind of like that.
1037
00:46:50.670 --> 00:46:53.090
Like A, you have to do so little as a
1038
00:46:53.150 --> 00:46:55.889
man to be doing something daring. Yeah. And also I
1039
00:46:55.969 --> 00:47:01.530
do think like, The black, the stylists for black men,
1040
00:47:01.670 --> 00:47:04.929
like the black stylists who work predominantly with black male
1041
00:47:06.139 --> 00:47:08.340
performers do more interesting stuff.
1042
00:47:08.500 --> 00:47:08.739
Yeah.
1043
00:47:08.780 --> 00:47:12.059
Like, but this is like, this is beautiful. It's such
1044
00:47:12.119 --> 00:47:17.849
magnificent detail work. And it's also not like. So frequently
1045
00:47:17.869 --> 00:47:20.289
the answer for guys now is just like, don't wear
1046
00:47:20.349 --> 00:47:22.510
a shirt and show off that I have a good torso.
1047
00:47:22.590 --> 00:47:24.630
And I like that this is not just that.
1048
00:47:24.849 --> 00:47:27.639
Yes. I think it's fun that they play around just
1049
00:47:27.679 --> 00:47:28.570
into the classic thing.
1050
00:47:28.760 --> 00:47:28.969
Yes.
1051
00:47:29.079 --> 00:47:31.739
Okay. I thought this was interesting because they got together
1052
00:47:31.900 --> 00:47:36.000
for the Grey's Anatomy co-stars. And just for Juicy Scoop history.
1053
00:47:36.119 --> 00:47:36.400
Yes.
1054
00:47:37.139 --> 00:47:41.199
Do you remember when Katherine Heigl pissed off Shonda Rhimes,
1055
00:47:41.900 --> 00:47:43.980
got kicked off the show.
1056
00:47:44.039 --> 00:47:44.320
Yes.
1057
00:47:45.079 --> 00:47:49.809
And- Who was her best friend who was gay on
1058
00:47:49.829 --> 00:47:50.369
the show?
1059
00:47:50.389 --> 00:47:53.340
Oh, yes. What was.
1060
00:47:53.739 --> 00:47:54.300
He wasn't there.
1061
00:47:54.360 --> 00:47:54.440
T.R.
1062
00:47:54.480 --> 00:47:55.079
Knight. T.R.
1063
00:47:55.420 --> 00:47:57.159
Knight. What has happened to T.R.
1064
00:47:57.199 --> 00:48:00.400
Knight? I mean, the thing about Grey's Anatomy being on
1065
00:48:00.460 --> 00:48:03.059
for so long is that there are people who were
1066
00:48:03.099 --> 00:48:07.010
like
stars of the show, who left the show, and
1067
00:48:07.030 --> 00:48:10.469
then are just nowhere. I'm sure he has like a
1068
00:48:10.510 --> 00:48:13.360
respectable drama series that nobody watches that he's on.
1069
00:48:13.809 --> 00:48:17.010
So there was T.R. Knight, and T.R. Knight accused the
1070
00:48:17.489 --> 00:48:19.730
other actor, who's black, what is his name?
1071
00:48:19.750 --> 00:48:20.590
Something Washington.
1072
00:48:21.130 --> 00:48:23.840
That he said that he called him a derogatory term.
1073
00:48:23.860 --> 00:48:24.110
Yes.
1074
00:48:24.760 --> 00:48:26.610
And I feel like all three of them just ended
1075
00:48:26.679 --> 00:48:28.159
up leaving the show shortly after.
1076
00:48:28.199 --> 00:48:28.500
Yes.
1077
00:48:29.219 --> 00:48:29.400
And.
1078
00:48:29.420 --> 00:48:32.900
And that is always rough when somebody points out discrimination
1079
00:48:32.960 --> 00:48:36.360
and then they end up feeling so uncomfortable. It's very retaliatory.
1080
00:48:36.400 --> 00:48:37.559
It makes me very sad.
1081
00:48:38.119 --> 00:48:39.460
When someone points it out?
1082
00:48:39.619 --> 00:48:43.929
When somebody, like, when somebody... Says this person did something
1083
00:48:43.969 --> 00:48:45.769
wrong to me and then they are the person who
1084
00:48:45.809 --> 00:48:46.929
ends up losing their job.
1085
00:48:46.969 --> 00:48:51.210
Right. And then– well, then she went on the red carpet,
1086
00:48:51.250 --> 00:48:54.070
Katherine Heigl, and at one point dissed the writers. Also
1087
00:48:54.110 --> 00:48:57.130
something not good to do, which is basically Shonda Rhimes.
1088
00:48:57.610 --> 00:48:59.610
So then she went on to do– she thought she
1089
00:48:59.639 --> 00:49:00.949
was going to be a movie star forever. She had
1090
00:49:01.159 --> 00:49:03.119
all those what I like to call dry bar movies.
1091
00:49:03.179 --> 00:49:03.539
Yes.
1092
00:49:03.579 --> 00:49:05.420
When you get your hair blown out, they play them
1093
00:49:05.500 --> 00:49:10.039
over and over, which is like– 27 Bridesmaids.
1094
00:49:10.039 --> 00:49:10.840
27 Dresses.
1095
00:49:10.920 --> 00:49:14.119
Dresses, yeah, all that, all those crappy movies, and he said,
1096
00:49:14.159 --> 00:49:14.550
she said it.
1097
00:49:14.550 --> 00:49:15.969
I went to all of them in the theater.
1098
00:49:16.090 --> 00:49:17.809
Oh my God, me too, and it was just always like,
1099
00:49:18.530 --> 00:49:22.820
with all that music, that play. that dorky music of like,
1100
00:49:22.860 --> 00:49:25.590
like whoever's doing the sound editing of those stupid 2000
1101
00:49:25.590 --> 00:49:27.730
movies as they're like trying to get ready for a date.
1102
00:49:27.849 --> 00:49:30.289
It would be wrong to say she single-handedly suffocated the
1103
00:49:30.329 --> 00:49:36.840
romantic comedy, but maybe she did. But I loved the
1104
00:49:37.019 --> 00:49:41.300
humility of coming out and saying, I am willing to
1105
00:49:41.340 --> 00:49:45.079
be here with my Grey's Anatomy crew. I am happy
1106
00:49:45.139 --> 00:49:47.340
and ready to work. And I am still six inches
1107
00:49:47.380 --> 00:49:49.380
taller than Ellen Pompeo. Yes.
1108
00:49:51.199 --> 00:49:54.500
But yeah, I remember we were on the roundtable and
1109
00:49:54.519 --> 00:49:58.610
I said something. I'm like, she suffers from. Katherine Heigl syndrome,
1110
00:49:58.630 --> 00:50:00.940
which is where you believe the hype of your gay
1111
00:50:00.980 --> 00:50:02.079
best friend too much.
1112
00:50:02.280 --> 00:50:02.579
Yes.
1113
00:50:02.639 --> 00:50:07.300
And I'm like, I blame T.R. Knight for her becoming
1114
00:50:07.360 --> 00:50:09.679
quite pompous as the Grey's Anatomy girl.
1115
00:50:09.780 --> 00:50:10.139
Yes.
1116
00:50:10.800 --> 00:50:12.409
But then you also have a team of people that
1117
00:50:12.429 --> 00:50:14.010
are like, we're going to get you movies and this
1118
00:50:14.130 --> 00:50:17.230
and that. And would you rather do a movie about
1119
00:50:17.489 --> 00:50:22.849
bridesmaids' dresses or learn 17 pages of medical terms overnight?
1120
00:50:23.070 --> 00:50:27.039
And she was in, like, she was in the, like, um...
1121
00:50:27.420 --> 00:50:29.820
what was the pregnancy one called? Not 40-Year-Old Virgin.
1122
00:50:31.449 --> 00:50:31.719
Right.
1123
00:50:32.139 --> 00:50:34.489
But she was in a huge romantic comedy.
1124
00:50:34.670 --> 00:50:36.429
Judd Apatow, that one was cute.
1125
00:50:36.469 --> 00:50:39.210
She was in a huge romantic comedy. Everything was on
1126
00:50:39.250 --> 00:50:41.909
her side. I think it made sense. And I think
1127
00:50:42.030 --> 00:50:44.949
it is unfair to, I don't know, I think we're
1128
00:50:45.030 --> 00:50:48.949
inclined to say a woman was experiencing hubris because she
1129
00:50:48.989 --> 00:50:50.110
believed in herself.
1130
00:50:50.309 --> 00:50:50.829
You're right.
1131
00:50:51.110 --> 00:50:52.329
You know? Yes.
1132
00:50:52.449 --> 00:50:55.260
You are totally right. Again, we don't say that about
1133
00:50:55.280 --> 00:50:59.719
a guy. So true. Um, this Vogue did this photo
1134
00:51:00.079 --> 00:51:03.000
and it is a happy birthday, Kate Moss. And I
1135
00:51:03.099 --> 00:51:04.800
saw it and I was like, this is not a
1136
00:51:04.880 --> 00:51:08.139
flattering naked photo of her. And it was from whenever
1137
00:51:08.139 --> 00:51:12.239
10 years ago, who knows when. And the comments are like,
1138
00:51:13.260 --> 00:51:16.070
you did her wrong. Like also, I think whenever this
1139
00:51:16.090 --> 00:51:18.719
photo was taken, um, Having kind of a flat ass
1140
00:51:18.739 --> 00:51:21.000
was still acceptable. And so I think people are not
1141
00:51:21.179 --> 00:51:24.019
used to seeing like a real body. It's like her
1142
00:51:24.059 --> 00:51:28.579
naked body twisted and turned. But again, I wouldn't be
1143
00:51:28.599 --> 00:51:31.329
thrilled if that was
what Vogue posted to say happy
1144
00:51:31.349 --> 00:51:33.389
birthday to me. I would be like, really?
1145
00:51:33.590 --> 00:51:38.570
Could you ask me first? I, as a fat, get
1146
00:51:38.670 --> 00:51:42.360
kind of annoyed with people. who made a living off
1147
00:51:42.380 --> 00:51:45.559
of having a perfect body or being extremely skinny. Okay.
1148
00:51:45.760 --> 00:51:50.989
Turning 47 and then saying like, let's all have real bodies. Hey,
1149
00:51:51.090 --> 00:51:55.909
accept yourself. And like, you're right. And this, like, I
1150
00:51:56.289 --> 00:51:59.510
think it's a really beautiful photo. I think it is like, um,
1151
00:51:59.809 --> 00:52:05.429
an homage to like, um, like Rubens and, and those
1152
00:52:05.469 --> 00:52:09.190
sort of like, um, you know, the statues of the arts, like, uh,
1153
00:52:10.090 --> 00:52:12.110
I think Bruegel. But like, you know, the sort of
1154
00:52:12.190 --> 00:52:16.730
like 17th century sort of like voluptuous courtesan sort of
1155
00:52:16.829 --> 00:52:20.750
buttocks kind of thing. And I think it looks really good.
1156
00:52:20.909 --> 00:52:23.159
But I am like.
1157
00:52:23.719 --> 00:52:26.480
I think the bigger thing is, yes, Vogue magazine obviously
1158
00:52:26.579 --> 00:52:28.480
owns the photo. She did a photo shoot with them.
1159
00:52:28.800 --> 00:52:32.320
They said happy birthday. Maybe she approved it. We may
1160
00:52:32.380 --> 00:52:35.329
not know the backstory, but I would hope. That if
1161
00:52:35.369 --> 00:52:38.489
you were going to do something like that, that wasn't
1162
00:52:38.539 --> 00:52:40.500
just like you and like, you know, modeling from 1975
1163
00:52:40.500 --> 00:52:43.440
and you're, you know, wearing like a Ralph Lauren blazer
1164
00:52:43.460 --> 00:52:46.260
or whatever. If it was anything more risque than that,
1165
00:52:46.840 --> 00:52:49.449
I think you should ask the person. Even though you've
1166
00:52:49.489 --> 00:52:52.030
signed off, you don't own the photos anymore. I just
1167
00:52:52.070 --> 00:52:53.670
think that would be the classy thing for Vogue to
1168
00:52:53.690 --> 00:52:55.150
do and be like, hey, you down with this photo?
1169
00:52:55.190 --> 00:52:56.750
We wanted to give you a happy birthday.
1170
00:52:56.769 --> 00:53:00.159
I mean, like that's. That's a really, really good point.
1171
00:53:00.300 --> 00:53:02.739
I think there is sort of an assumption that models
1172
00:53:03.170 --> 00:53:06.789
understand that their bodies are out there. And I don't
1173
00:53:06.829 --> 00:53:08.809
know how protective of them we can be when it
1174
00:53:08.909 --> 00:53:12.889
is something they have chosen to commodify about themselves. I
1175
00:53:12.929 --> 00:53:15.820
just have an issue. When you get in the door
1176
00:53:15.880 --> 00:53:18.059
by being hotter than me, and then once you're in
1177
00:53:18.099 --> 00:53:21.400
the door, you say, hey, why can't we all go
1178
00:53:21.440 --> 00:53:26.599
to seed? I'm like, calm down. I agree. I agree.
1179
00:53:27.730 --> 00:53:29.630
Let's talk about Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. Have
1180
00:53:29.670 --> 00:53:30.670
you watched it at all?
1181
00:53:30.769 --> 00:53:33.889
Okay, I have only seen the cultural impact of I
1182
00:53:33.929 --> 00:53:36.329
have the receipts, I have the websites. What is it?
1183
00:53:36.670 --> 00:53:37.849
Well, the stuff I want to talk to you about
1184
00:53:37.869 --> 00:53:40.250
today is just the juicy thing that came out on
1185
00:53:40.289 --> 00:53:41.150
last night's episode.
1186
00:53:41.329 --> 00:53:41.570
Okay.
1187
00:53:41.690 --> 00:53:45.320
Which is, okay, so Monica, this one at the bottom, she,
1188
00:53:45.570 --> 00:53:49.539
you know, was, she has quite a shady past. She
1189
00:53:49.579 --> 00:53:55.920
had an affair with her husband's sister's husband. Wonderful. So
1190
00:53:55.940 --> 00:54:00.599
her brother-in-law For 18 months. Then got divorced. And she
1191
00:54:00.639 --> 00:54:05.960
had a marriage before that. So she's been divorced twice, cheated, whatever.
1192
00:54:06.619 --> 00:54:10.159
Then she's got this mother. And the mother was featured
1193
00:54:10.199 --> 00:54:13.869
on the show. And they fight horribly to each other. Like, say,
1194
00:54:14.110 --> 00:54:15.989
F you and all this other, like, horrible to each
1195
00:54:16.030 --> 00:54:19.070
other on the show. And a lot of people are like,
1196
00:54:19.570 --> 00:54:22.880
and myself included, this feels very like they're acting. We
1197
00:54:22.929 --> 00:54:25.730
now know. That she set out to get on the show.
1198
00:54:25.869 --> 00:54:28.360
She made friends with Jen Shaw. She worked with Jen Shaw.
1199
00:54:28.380 --> 00:54:29.639
Oh, wait, I did see that. Yes.
1200
00:54:29.920 --> 00:54:32.039
So she set out to get on the show. She
1201
00:54:32.079 --> 00:54:36.619
started a fake account called Reality Von Teese where she
1202
00:54:36.699 --> 00:54:43.099
would share all the stuff. Now, there's another site that
1203
00:54:43.119 --> 00:54:45.639
covers all this stuff. It's called All About the Real Housewives.
1204
00:54:46.159 --> 00:54:49.889
And they just came out with an article saying, according
1205
00:54:49.909 --> 00:54:53.510
to them and allegedly... that on the reality volunteers, which
1206
00:54:53.590 --> 00:54:55.340
she ran a couple with a couple other people, they
1207
00:54:55.389 --> 00:54:58.519
released these videos of Jen Shaw treating her staff horribly,
1208
00:54:58.539 --> 00:55:01.099
screaming at them. And people were like, how did they
1209
00:55:01.119 --> 00:55:04.559
ever get those videos? Well, according to this, when she
1210
00:55:04.639 --> 00:55:07.260
went and befriended Jen Shaw and was working with her,
1211
00:55:07.860 --> 00:55:10.429
she said, you should have surveillance cameras here. And she
1212
00:55:10.530 --> 00:55:13.650
set it up, but the cameras went to her phone.
1213
00:55:14.809 --> 00:55:16.909
And that is why she had all those things to
1214
00:55:16.929 --> 00:55:21.059
then expose Jen. Because I remember corresponding with reality volunteers
1215
00:55:21.300 --> 00:55:23.679
because she was exposing how awful Jen Shah was to
1216
00:55:23.739 --> 00:55:27.039
her fashion designer and her staff and everything with these
1217
00:55:27.079 --> 00:55:30.139
videos that she was putting out there. She then hides
1218
00:55:30.179 --> 00:55:33.309
that identity, gets on the show, has her mother come
1219
00:55:33.389 --> 00:55:37.119
on the show with her. And last night. She really
1220
00:55:37.159 --> 00:55:41.000
reveals how awful the mother is. And the mother is awful.
1221
00:55:41.059 --> 00:55:43.619
She's awful, but the mother is what made her awful too.
1222
00:55:43.980 --> 00:55:46.599
The mother is one of those mothers who's totally narcissistic
1223
00:55:46.659 --> 00:55:48.119
and really jealous of her daughter.
1224
00:55:48.300 --> 00:55:51.420
So you think she's really a monster and not performing monster?
1225
00:55:51.440 --> 00:55:52.900
I think she's both.
1226
00:55:53.139 --> 00:55:53.360
Okay.
1227
00:55:53.739 --> 00:55:56.429
I think she is a monster. I think you could
1228
00:55:56.550 --> 00:55:58.570
also feel sorry for her because she does have a
1229
00:55:58.590 --> 00:56:00.889
horrible mother and she did have some bad things happen
1230
00:56:00.909 --> 00:56:05.010
to her. But the calculating and being fake to people's faces,
1231
00:56:05.070 --> 00:56:08.190
I will never forgive reality show or not. This isn't traitors.
1232
00:56:08.550 --> 00:56:10.449
This was a reality show. You're supposed to look at
1233
00:56:10.510 --> 00:56:13.050
that when you're acting like, when you're being their friend,
1234
00:56:13.070 --> 00:56:14.369
you're supposed to be their friend.
1235
00:56:14.409 --> 00:56:17.090
So just to clarify, so she went and was like,
1236
00:56:17.130 --> 00:56:19.829
you should get these cameras. Yes. And she was like.
1237
00:56:19.849 --> 00:56:20.690
According to this story.
1238
00:56:20.829 --> 00:56:22.829
And she was like, oh, where do I do that?
1239
00:56:22.929 --> 00:56:25.489
She was like, I'll set it all up. I mean,
1240
00:56:25.530 --> 00:56:30.030
that's genius. And it makes me wonder about, like, The
1241
00:56:30.070 --> 00:56:32.590
legality of it, because this person was agreeing to do
1242
00:56:32.650 --> 00:56:33.969
this with her.
1243
00:56:34.409 --> 00:56:38.010
Well, it's like, listen, anybody that's trying to be an
1244
00:56:38.030 --> 00:56:42.030
assistant to an entertainer in 2024, good fucking luck. Because
1245
00:56:42.070 --> 00:56:43.000
I literally am terrified.
1246
00:56:43.019 --> 00:56:43.780
So she was her assistant?
1247
00:56:44.340 --> 00:56:46.920
She was kind of one of her glorified assistants.
1248
00:56:46.940 --> 00:56:49.460
Do you think finding out that this woman created Reality
1249
00:56:49.480
--> 00:56:52.139
of Antis so that she could get herself on Real
1250
00:56:52.159 --> 00:56:54.820
Housewives of Salt Lake City is going to help people
1251
00:56:54.889 --> 00:56:57.230
figure out that you are Dorit doing a character?
1252
00:56:57.250 --> 00:56:57.309
No.
1253
00:56:58.500 --> 00:57:03.260
That your entire career was just Dorit establishing herself, like
1254
00:57:03.380 --> 00:57:05.650
talking about gossip and that sort of thing so she
1255
00:57:05.690 --> 00:57:07.949
could play herself up and then make it onto Real
1256
00:57:07.969 --> 00:57:09.070
Housewives of Beverly Hills.
1257
00:57:09.329 --> 00:57:11.050
You think that is what Dorit is doing?
1258
00:57:11.090 --> 00:57:14.989
I think that's who you've been for the past 30
1259
00:57:14.989 --> 00:57:18.670
years of your career was just Dorit Kemsley in a wig.
1260
00:57:18.889 --> 00:57:21.539
Yeah, whatever anybody would say, would you be on the Housewives?
1261
00:57:21.559 --> 00:57:24.900
I'm like, no, I'm too on the inside. You would
1262
00:57:24.920 --> 00:57:28.179
never hire someone that's like, So if they knew who
1263
00:57:28.260 --> 00:57:30.829
she was– what I don't like about anonymous stuff, which
1264
00:57:30.869 --> 00:57:35.789
I've said, is that by hiding behind anonymous things– and listen,
1265
00:57:35.909 --> 00:57:39.489
I follow a lot of these anonymous influencers in this
1266
00:57:39.530 --> 00:57:42.190
world and they do really good work. But you do
1267
00:57:42.250 --> 00:57:45.869
have– you're not really putting yourself out there because you
1268
00:57:45.889 --> 00:57:48.469
could be this anonymous person who's putting out all this
1269
00:57:48.489 --> 00:57:55.889
crazy info about a Dorit. And then go to an
1270
00:57:55.949 --> 00:57:59.260
event as a completely different person and make friends with
1271
00:57:59.300 --> 00:58:01.579
Dorit and maybe go to her home and maybe see
1272
00:58:01.619 --> 00:58:04.480
PK and then go back and be typing away. That's
1273
00:58:04.500 --> 00:58:05.659
why it's scary.
1274
00:58:05.679 --> 00:58:07.619
This woman needs to be working for the CIA. I
1275
00:58:07.639 --> 00:58:10.480
think she's brilliant. She should possibly be running our country.
1276
00:58:12.199 --> 00:58:15.840
I am, it's so impressive. Okay, you say that now,
1277
00:58:16.070 --> 00:58:20.469
but I think if season one or two of Beverly Hills,
1278
00:58:21.050 --> 00:58:23.750
they had come to you and said, Do you want
1279
00:58:23.769 --> 00:58:25.409
to do this? I think there was a point when.
1280
00:58:25.329 --> 00:58:27.699
Like the paths diverged where.
1281
00:58:27.380 --> 00:58:30.420
It was like you could have because like you were,
1282
00:58:30.599 --> 00:58:31.179
you had so much.
1283
00:58:31.199 --> 00:58:33.119
I was just never wealthy enough. But now they don't care.
1284
00:58:33.139 --> 00:58:34.940
This girl doesn't have any money either. Now they don't
1285
00:58:34.980 --> 00:58:36.800
care because the wealthy people are too smart to do it.
1286
00:58:36.820 --> 00:58:37.980
So they need the poor people.
1287
00:58:38.099 --> 00:58:41.389
I mean, like, let's be fair to Alex McCord. It's
1288
00:58:41.469 --> 00:58:42.630
never mattered that much.
1289
00:58:44.409 --> 00:58:47.750
OK, so then she says in the thing about her mother,
1290
00:58:48.289 --> 00:58:50.219
you know, because she said one of the sad stories
1291
00:58:50.239 --> 00:58:52.139
she said on the show was when my mom when
1292
00:58:52.159 --> 00:58:54.340
I was 12, my mom dropped me off at this
1293
00:58:54.780 --> 00:58:56.360
this family. I didn't even know who they were. They
1294
00:58:56.380 --> 00:58:59.340
weren't even relatives to watch me for like a year
1295
00:58:59.400 --> 00:59:02.440
while she went to New York for work. And I
1296
00:59:02.679 --> 00:59:04.159
was like, what is the work? Was it to be
1297
00:59:04.179 --> 00:59:06.280
a rockette? Was it to go after a rich guy?
1298
00:59:06.300 --> 00:59:08.619
I don't think it was, you know, selling IBM computers.
1299
00:59:08.679 --> 00:59:11.650
What the fuck was the work? so now today yesterday
1300
00:59:11.710 --> 00:59:14.670
she revealed to Andy yes it was to pursue a
1301
00:59:15.329 --> 00:59:19.030
you know work in television actress whatever said television and
1302
00:59:19.239 --> 00:59:21.340
so then she's like and when I went to my
1303
00:59:21.380 --> 00:59:23.519
mom's house after I did my final interview and I
1304
00:59:23.579 --> 00:59:25.219
think I bombed I didn't think I was going to
1305
00:59:25.260 --> 00:59:26.920
get it I laid on her couch I was crying
1306
00:59:27.360 --> 00:59:30.050
and she goes let's say a prayer And she's like,
1307
00:59:30.070 --> 00:59:32.929
this is what the mom says to her. Let's say
1308
00:59:32.969 --> 00:59:36.329
a prayer. And she goes, the prayer was, if Monica
1309
00:59:36.389 --> 00:59:39.400
doesn't get it, won't they give it to me? Will
1310
00:59:39.420 --> 00:59:42.440
they give it to me? And so now they're not
1311
00:59:42.500 --> 00:59:46.500
talking because the mom wasn't happy with her performance and
1312
00:59:46.559 --> 00:59:51.670
wasn't happy with. And there's video of this girl, Monica.
1313
00:59:51.789 --> 00:59:52.030
Yes.
1314
00:59:52.599 --> 00:59:55.500
Filmed a lot of her mom being horrible to her.
1315
00:59:55.699 --> 00:59:58.460
And then she would send it to Tanisha, who is
1316
00:59:58.500 --> 01:00:01.239
a hairdresser for Heather Gay, who is also one of
1317
01:00:01.280 --> 01:00:05.409
the people that have access to the Reality Von Teese Instagram.
1318
01:00:06.329 --> 01:00:08.309
And she was not big on picking up the phone.
1319
01:00:08.329 --> 01:00:10.989
She was big on doing audio messages and sending videos
1320
01:00:11.050 --> 01:00:13.670
and everything. That girl now has released it all. And
1321
01:00:13.849 --> 01:00:16.849
one of the videos she shows is the mom scolding
1322
01:00:16.889 --> 01:00:22.000
her for her performance in at this girl Angie's Easter party.
1323
01:00:22.099 --> 01:00:23.880
And she was like, you were awful. You were screaming.
1324
01:00:23.900 --> 01:00:26.159
And she's like, mom, you need to protect me. You know,
1325
01:00:26.179 --> 01:00:27.449
why are you getting mad at me? And she's like,
1326
01:00:28.300 --> 01:00:30.750
she goes, the producer said I did great. Monica says
1327
01:00:30.769 --> 01:00:32.449
to the mom, the producer said I did great. And
1328
01:00:32.489 --> 01:00:34.909
she goes, I don't care what the producer says. This
1329
01:00:34.989 --> 01:00:37.309
is not the goal of this. You're an actress. And
1330
01:00:37.349 --> 01:00:39.110
if you're going to continue on, you can't be a
1331
01:00:39.130 --> 01:00:40.989
complete asshole is what the mom was saying. The mom
1332
01:00:41.030 --> 01:00:42.949
was kind of giving her good advice. She was kind
1333
01:00:42.989 --> 01:00:45.210
of like, peel it back a little so that these
1334
01:00:45.289 --> 01:00:47.610
women like you and you continue to stay. The mom
1335
01:00:47.650 --> 01:00:50.000
knew what, the mom was a better acting coach. than
1336
01:00:50.019 --> 01:00:50.619
the producer.
1337
01:00:51.239 --> 01:00:56.539
A 45-year-old woman getting dance-mommed makes me thrilled. I do think.
1338
01:00:56.559 --> 01:00:59.500
I don't think she's 45. If she listens to this,
1339
01:00:59.519 --> 01:01:02.159
I'll probably think she's most angry about it.
1340
01:01:02.360 --> 01:01:05.519
The thing is, as a fan of Survivor, watching how
1341
01:01:05.559 --> 01:01:09.630
the show has evolved over the years is fascinating. Watching
1342
01:01:09.730 --> 01:01:15.550
how housewife shows evolved with things like Jill Zarin figuring
1343
01:01:15.630 --> 01:01:18.289
out that you could call a gossip columnist and get
1344
01:01:18.329 --> 01:01:24.320
something Like, watching the shows gently turn into traitors is
1345
01:01:24.400 --> 01:01:25.139
like three-dimensional.
1346
01:01:25.159 --> 01:01:26.699
It really kind of is, and I think we don't,
1347
01:01:27.900 --> 01:01:30.820
I don't know. It made the season good, so it's like,
1348
01:01:31.280 --> 01:01:33.000
this is, it is what it is. I'm not going
1349
01:01:33.019 --> 01:01:35.019
to say what I want, who I, I never want
1350
01:01:35.039 --> 01:01:37.739
to say, like, this person should come back or not
1351
01:01:37.780 --> 01:01:40.320
come back or whatever. I think it would be pretty
1352
01:01:40.460 --> 01:01:42.440
inauthentic if she came back and they had to act
1353
01:01:42.480 --> 01:01:43.480
like they could be her friend.
1354
01:01:43.519 --> 01:01:46.519
But you want that, like, you do want that core
1355
01:01:46.559 --> 01:01:49.829
of authenticity. The fact that, like, Ramona was so old
1356
01:01:49.909 --> 01:01:52.909
school that you always knew that at the end of
1357
01:01:52.929 --> 01:01:55.389
the day, even if she was mad
at Sonia, she
1358
01:01:55.489 --> 01:01:58.230
liked being friends with, like, just you want to have
1359
01:01:58.269 --> 01:02:00.320
those friendships that feel real.
1360
01:02:00.340 --> 01:02:03.340
Those friendships are deep. It's like they can be jealous
1361
01:02:03.380 --> 01:02:04.920
of each other and they can be like, you're annoying.
1362
01:02:04.960 --> 01:02:07.980
But like, yeah, they're, you know, somebody gets sick in
1363
01:02:08.000 --> 01:02:10.079
the family, someone dies, they're going to be there, like,
1364
01:02:10.500 --> 01:02:10.739
you know.
1365
01:02:11.489 --> 01:02:15.380
Do you think that Dorit feels lost since Kyle became
1366
01:02:15.420 --> 01:02:16.079
a lesbian?
1367
01:02:16.119 --> 01:02:17.659
What I want to just finish this. Then we're going
1368
01:02:17.679 --> 01:02:19.019
to get into Beverly Hills. We're getting into Beverly Hills.
1369
01:02:19.679 --> 01:02:22.360
So anyway, that was revealed. The mom is a piece
1370
01:02:22.400 --> 01:02:23.079
of shit also.
1371
01:02:23.260 --> 01:02:23.519
Okay.
1372
01:02:23.900 --> 01:02:26.050
So then this is also a piece of shit, mom.
1373
01:02:26.150 --> 01:02:30.969
This is Blac Chyna's mom. Blac Chyna's ex-boyfriend said that
1374
01:02:31.010 --> 01:02:35.289
the mom was sending him DMs saying, Blac Chyna, my daughter,
1375
01:02:35.409 --> 01:02:39.030
is jealous of my natural better body than Blac Chyna
1376
01:02:39.110 --> 01:02:40.690
and was sending him like sexy DMs.
1377
01:02:41.840 --> 01:02:43.099
Things. Wonderful.
1378
01:02:43.960 --> 01:02:45.760
So I just thought there was a real connection between
1379
01:02:45.820 --> 01:02:46.840
Monica and her mom.
1380
01:02:47.079 --> 01:02:47.420
Yes.
1381
01:02:47.619 --> 01:02:49.940
And then there's a version of it here. And I
1382
01:02:49.980 --> 01:02:52.699
just think, my God, these women are not going to
1383
01:02:52.719 --> 01:02:54.820
have a good Mother's Day this year.
1384
01:02:54.880 --> 01:02:56.719
I mean, it's really hard. You want people to be
1385
01:02:56.820 --> 01:03:02.550
able to support their children. Like, do you think if
1386
01:03:02.610 --> 01:03:05.309
your daughter ended up on a reality show, you would
1387
01:03:05.329 --> 01:03:07.090
be able to have a healthy sense of distance or
1388
01:03:07.309 --> 01:03:09.050
would you try to put yourself into it as much
1389
01:03:09.090 --> 01:03:09.590
as possible?
1390
01:03:09.610 --> 01:03:12.619
Well, I would just be in it when she wants
1391
01:03:12.659 --> 01:03:14.559
me to be in it. You know, like I say
1392
01:03:14.579 --> 01:03:16.179
that too when people are like, will you be part
1393
01:03:16.199 --> 01:03:18.500
of my reality show? I'm like, throw me around in
1394
01:03:18.539 --> 01:03:20.239
the room. I will come to your party.
1395
01:03:20.340 --> 01:03:20.659
Yes.
1396
01:03:21.019 --> 01:03:22.940
I don't think I want to like sign up for
1397
01:03:22.980 --> 01:03:25.039
a real thing, but you know, you never know. But anyway,
1398
01:03:25.139 --> 01:03:26.420
I want to just say one more thing. The photo
1399
01:03:26.440 --> 01:03:30.010
that's not featured here is Mary. Mary is a cult
1400
01:03:30.050 --> 01:03:34.690
leader that married her step grandfather and had a child
1401
01:03:34.750 --> 01:03:37.360
with him. And she was in the first part of
1402
01:03:37.400 --> 01:03:39.659
the season in which she just told everybody straight to
1403
01:03:39.679 --> 01:03:43.099
their face, like, I hate you. You're awful. I don't
1404
01:03:43.119 --> 01:03:45.300
want to be here. Don't sit next to me. Get
1405
01:03:45.320 --> 01:03:48.380
away from me, little girl. She was like always awful
1406
01:03:48.420 --> 01:03:51.940
to everybody. So then we now know they just stopped
1407
01:03:51.980 --> 01:03:52.840
inviting her to shit.
1408
01:03:52.900 --> 01:03:53.179
Yeah.
1409
01:03:53.679 --> 01:03:57.179
So she comes in and now she's like, they're like,
1410
01:03:57.239 --> 01:04:01.309
who do you like, Mary? And she's like, I like
1411
01:04:01.849 --> 01:04:07.349
Monica because she's pretty. I don't like you, Heather. And
1412
01:04:07.530 --> 01:04:10.079
Heather's like, well, you said I look like I was inbred.
1413
01:04:10.659 --> 01:04:12.880
And she goes, well, you do. But you said a
1414
01:04:12.920 --> 01:04:16.400
mean thing about my house. And he's like, wait, what
1415
01:04:16.440 --> 01:04:18.719
she said about your decorated house is worse than what
1416
01:04:18.739 --> 01:04:21.550
you said saying that she was inbred? She's like, yes,
1417
01:04:21.590 --> 01:04:24.349
I do think it's worse. And I'm like, I'm like
1418
01:04:24.429 --> 01:04:27.030
the fact that everybody's sitting on this couch. Nobody is
1419
01:04:27.070 --> 01:04:30.480
like you ran a cult and you live in a
1420
01:04:30.519 --> 01:04:34.659
house with millions and millions of dollars of goods that
1421
01:04:34.699 --> 01:04:38.840
you got from your poor, dumb people that you convinced
1422
01:04:38.860 --> 01:04:41.099
that you were the second coming of Jesus Christ who
1423
01:04:41.280 --> 01:04:45.199
gave you money, who you then bought designer crap with.
1424
01:04:45.619 --> 01:04:49.079
And now you're sitting here. Like, I just am like,
1425
01:04:49.300 --> 01:04:52.099
I don't, I mean, she is weird. She's entertaining. But, like,
1426
01:04:52.570 --> 01:04:54.050
the fact that no one brings up the fact that
1427
01:04:54.070 --> 01:04:59.369
she's running a corrupt church for her own gain is
1428
01:04:59.449 --> 01:05:01.550
so weird that no one will say that on stage.
1429
01:05:01.710 --> 01:05:05.030
I mean, like, but I do kind of also understand
1430
01:05:05.590 --> 01:05:07.559
not wanting to go after those things that are at
1431
01:05:07.599 --> 01:05:09.800
the core of someone. Like, if you do have any
1432
01:05:09.860 --> 01:05:13.639
regard for someone, understanding, like, like, there are just aspects
1433
01:05:13.699 --> 01:05:15.719
of people that are so fundamental to them that you're like, oh,
1434
01:05:15.719 --> 01:05:20.340
I'm not going there. You know, it's like if I
1435
01:05:20.380 --> 01:05:22.940
were friends with the president of France, like it would
1436
01:05:22.980 --> 01:05:25.079
be totally crazy. Even if I got in a fight
1437
01:05:25.119 --> 01:05:26.920
with him, I wouldn't bring up the fact that his
1438
01:05:26.960 --> 01:05:28.900
wife molested him when he was in high school.
1439
01:05:32.139 --> 01:05:34.260
The fact that we don't talk more about that the
1440
01:05:34.389 --> 01:05:38.590
current president of France is married to his teacher who
1441
01:05:38.630 --> 01:05:40.750
was his drama teacher, right?
1442
01:05:40.829 --> 01:05:41.449
I'm not sure.
1443
01:05:41.630 --> 01:05:41.849
Yes.
1444
01:05:41.949 --> 01:05:44.489
It was a drama teacher. He was 15. She was 40.
1445
01:05:44.489 --> 01:05:45.590
She was married with kids.
1446
01:05:45.630 --> 01:05:45.829
Yes.
1447
01:05:46.369 --> 01:05:48.090
They fully had an affair.
1448
01:05:48.110 --> 01:05:50.670
Have they seen May, December? Have they seen May, December
1449
01:05:50.710 --> 01:05:51.530
is my question.
1450
01:05:52.760 --> 01:05:56.199
For people that don't know, they fully, and people get mad. Yes,
1451
01:05:56.239 --> 01:05:58.539
it wasn't an affair because he wasn't, he was, I've
1452
01:05:58.579 --> 01:06:01.360
said this before, an affair. It's not an affair. She
1453
01:06:01.519 --> 01:06:02.099
molested him.
1454
01:06:02.159 --> 01:06:02.360
Okay.
1455
01:06:02.380 --> 01:06:02.599
Great.
1456
01:06:03.079 --> 01:06:05.570
They, he went off to college.
1457
01:06:05.739 --> 01:06:05.989
Yes.
1458
01:06:06.150 --> 01:06:08.349
And she since has talked a little bit about, and
1459
01:06:08.429 --> 01:06:10.989
she got divorced and she was definitely thought he would
1460
01:06:11.090 --> 01:06:14.210
find young girls in college and never, but after college,
1461
01:06:14.250 --> 01:06:15.130
he came back to her.
1462
01:06:15.250 --> 01:06:15.510
Yes.
1463
01:06:15.860 --> 01:06:23.070
And now he's like 45 and she's like 67 or something. But,
1464
01:06:23.280 --> 01:06:25.650
I mean, seems to have worked out for you.
1465
01:06:25.670 --> 01:06:28.570
She's the first lady of France. He became the president
1466
01:06:28.590 --> 01:06:29.769
of France when he was crazy young.
1467
01:06:30.460 --> 01:06:33.260
I just don't get it. It's crazy that people don't
1468
01:06:33.380 --> 01:06:36.219
freak out more about it. It's insane. How are the
1469
01:06:36.260 --> 01:06:40.340
French people walking around not... Do they not have debates?
1470
01:06:40.590 --> 01:06:43.369
Do you imagine if Donald Trump was debating him and
1471
01:06:44.070 --> 01:06:46.690
didn't bring up the fact that his wife.
1472
01:06:46.949 --> 01:06:47.409
But also.
1473
01:06:47.530 --> 01:06:47.809
I think.
1474
01:06:48.489 --> 01:06:50.449
I don't know what their age of consent is, but
1475
01:06:50.489 --> 01:06:52.949
I think they have a cultural idea that a man
1476
01:06:53.010 --> 01:06:56.070
who is a teenager... has like full sexual agency, which
1477
01:06:56.250 --> 01:06:56.829
I don't agree with.
1478
01:06:56.849 --> 01:06:59.929
But still it was a teacher situation. And she was married,
1479
01:06:59.949 --> 01:07:01.590
so it was like a triple strike.
1480
01:07:01.929 --> 01:07:03.070
Have you seen May, December yet?
1481
01:07:03.110 --> 01:07:03.489
Yes.
1482
01:07:03.630 --> 01:07:06.369
Okay, like I just hope they watch May, December and
1483
01:07:06.389 --> 01:07:09.329
then they have a moment like Charlie Melton and Julianne
1484
01:07:09.369 --> 01:07:11.829
Moore where he gets to say like, maybe I wasn't
1485
01:07:11.989 --> 01:07:12.989
in control of myself.
1486
01:07:13.010 --> 01:07:16.699
That's what he's like. And then she's like, you were,
1487
01:07:17.030 --> 01:07:20.739
say it, you were. Who was in control? Who was
1488
01:07:20.800 --> 01:07:21.420
in control?
1489
01:07:21.719 --> 01:07:21.960
Yeah.
1490
01:07:22.000 --> 01:07:22.679
Who hit on me?
1491
01:07:23.639 --> 01:07:27.900
You saw that that was from actual footage of Mary
1492
01:07:27.940 --> 01:07:28.639
Kay Letourneau.
1493
01:07:28.659 --> 01:07:30.880
Yes, when she was like, I remember that because I
1494
01:07:30.900 --> 01:07:34.239
was obsessed with that story, Mary Kay Letourneau. And she
1495
01:07:34.280 --> 01:07:37.940
was like, he was the aggressor. When he slept over
1496
01:07:38.199 --> 01:07:41.500
as my son's friend in the sixth grade and I
1497
01:07:41.559 --> 01:07:43.019
went down to get an ice water and he was
1498
01:07:43.059 --> 01:07:45.599
sleeping on the couch, he was the aggressor is what
1499
01:07:45.659 --> 01:07:46.139
she says.
1500
01:07:46.159 --> 01:07:46.659
Jesus Christ.
1501
01:07:46.679 --> 01:07:51.579
Amazing. Amazing. But he's around, she's dead now, Mary Kay.
1502
01:07:52.139 --> 01:07:55.119
And he's like hurt by this, okay, so there are
1503
01:07:55.139 --> 01:07:57.739
people who are like, should they have made this movie
1504
01:07:57.920 --> 01:07:59.820
considering that there is a victim out there and you're
1505
01:07:59.840 --> 01:08:04.449
sort of like re-traumatizing this person? Right. Or like what everyone,
1506
01:08:04.929 --> 01:08:07.510
what the screenwriter has said is like, it's like inspired
1507
01:08:07.550 --> 01:08:09.309
by this thing that was in our culture. It's not
1508
01:08:09.369 --> 01:08:12.889
about this particular situation. Do you think it is wrong
1509
01:08:12.949 --> 01:08:15.670
for them to do this and not consult him or
1510
01:08:15.730 --> 01:08:19.619
talk to him at all? Or do you think... it's
1511
01:08:20.300 --> 01:08:20.779
fair game.
1512
01:08:23.659 --> 01:08:27.329
Well, I guess it, if you consult him, then you
1513
01:08:27.350 --> 01:08:29.909
kind of got to take his two cents and give
1514
01:08:29.949 --> 01:08:32.510
him money. So I can see why they didn't, but
1515
01:08:32.550 --> 01:08:34.189
it is, it is kind of shitty. But at the
1516
01:08:34.250 --> 01:08:38.520
same time, I think he's, I don't know. He's made
1517
01:08:38.560 --> 01:08:39.920
money off of it. What would you do?
1518
01:08:39.960 --> 01:08:42.439
I think the most important part of the movie, May, December,
1519
01:08:42.539 --> 01:08:45.659
are there are two B shots of the pool being
1520
01:08:45.739 --> 01:08:48.859
shitty and then the pool being refinished. Just to remind you,
1521
01:08:49.270 --> 01:08:51.800
that she got 10 to 20 grand off of letting
1522
01:08:51.859 --> 01:08:55.720
Natalie Portman come and job shadow her. And that's like- Right, I.
1523
01:08:55.659 --> 01:08:57.409
Wrote you about that. I was like, how are they
1524
01:08:57.489 --> 01:08:59.649
rich and living on this island? And I thought that
1525
01:08:59.670 --> 01:09:02.460
was kind of interesting that they like had waterfront property.
1526
01:09:02.579 --> 01:09:05.960
And I was like, because the real couple, when I was,
1527
01:09:05.979 --> 01:09:09.180
I remember I was doing a show at Bellevue Comedy
1528
01:09:09.220 --> 01:09:14.670
Club in Washington State near Seattle. And then later in
1529
01:09:14.689 --> 01:09:17.210
the week, he was going to be a DJ and
1530
01:09:17.229 --> 01:09:19.090
it was hot for teacher night. And she was going
1531
01:09:19.109 --> 01:09:22.260
to come And the poster was her in a schoolgirl
1532
01:09:22.340 --> 01:09:26.000
outfit and him. So they were like hustling this still
1533
01:09:26.020 --> 01:09:27.260
like 10 years ago.
1534
01:09:27.300 --> 01:09:29.779
Yes, the notion of this trauma that is still something
1535
01:09:29.800 --> 01:09:32.470
that you profit from is just so creepy and weird.
1536
01:09:32.510 --> 01:09:33.369
What else are you going.
1537
01:09:33.270 --> 01:09:33.970
To do, though?
1538
01:09:33.989 --> 01:09:36.909
What else are you going to do? Okay, so you
1539
01:09:36.930 --> 01:09:38.750
were talking a little bit about Beverly Hills and you
1540
01:09:38.770 --> 01:09:42.069
wanted to ask me about Kyle and Morgan.
1541
01:09:42.649 --> 01:09:46.739
Yes. Like, I personally think that the real victim here, yes, is...
1542
01:09:47.579 --> 01:09:50.039
Kyle's marriage breaking up does affect her children, but I
1543
01:09:50.100 --> 01:09:55.279
think Dorit no longer having best Jewish couple friends is
1544
01:09:55.520 --> 01:09:58.159
really hard, and I think it hurts her place on
1545
01:09:58.199 --> 01:09:58.579
the show.
1546
01:09:58.939 --> 01:10:03.380
Well, recently, Kyle did an Amazon Live.
1547
01:10:03.600 --> 01:10:03.859
Yes.
1548
01:10:04.430 --> 01:10:06.909
Which is, she's supposed to be selling products, but basically
1549
01:10:06.930 --> 01:10:09.850
she just spills tea. I don't really understand how it works. Anyways,
1550
01:10:09.890 --> 01:10:13.090
of course somebody asked, and she said, well, Dorit said that,
1551
01:10:13.130 --> 01:10:15.130
you know, we went on all these trips together.
1552
01:10:15.149 --> 01:10:15.289
We....
1553
01:10:16.840 --> 01:10:21.149
Went on one trip as a foursome like three years ago,
1554
01:10:21.699 --> 01:10:24.170
and all the other trips that she mentioned and showed
1555
01:10:24.229 --> 01:10:28.069
photos of were from cast trips. So she kind of
1556
01:10:28.149 --> 01:10:30.270
was being a little mean to Dorit. She's like, I
1557
01:10:30.310 --> 01:10:33.600
love Dorit, but come on. She's pushing down that Dorit
1558
01:10:33.689 --> 01:10:36.180
is feeling like we're no longer close, and we really
1559
01:10:36.220 --> 01:10:38.680
were close even when the cameras weren't around. And she's like,
1560
01:10:39.039 --> 01:10:42.899
were we that close? I have gone back and forth
1561
01:10:43.880 --> 01:10:49.949
on her and Morgan's relationship. And it is literally like this.
1562
01:10:50.149 --> 01:10:52.779
I'm like, it's real, it's not real. It's for PR,
1563
01:10:52.859 --> 01:10:55.880
it's to promote the thing. Maybe they fingered once, but
1564
01:10:55.920 --> 01:11:01.140
they aren't anymore. Now, I take it back. I do
1565
01:11:01.180 --> 01:11:01.899
think they're a couple.
1566
01:11:02.279 --> 01:11:05.319
I think it lines up with all of the goofy,
1567
01:11:05.420 --> 01:11:10.000
like the core goofinesses of Kyle's identity. Kyle crying because
1568
01:11:10.060 --> 01:11:13.119
people didn't like the hat store. And did you see
1569
01:11:13.159 --> 01:11:16.960
the Instagram of, Rihanna liked her hat store in Aspen.
1570
01:11:17.039 --> 01:11:17.579
Yeah.
1571
01:11:17.619 --> 01:11:19.960
Like I was, I was so happy for Kyle, but
1572
01:11:20.020 --> 01:11:24.020
like this and look, we've, we've all known some late
1573
01:11:24.039 --> 01:11:26.340
in life lesbians in our lives. And I do think
1574
01:11:26.399 --> 01:11:26.779
it is.
1575
01:11:26.859 --> 01:11:28.140
Some that were waiting to come out.
1576
01:11:28.260 --> 01:11:28.560
Yes.
1577
01:11:28.779 --> 01:11:29.020
Yes.
1578
01:11:29.420 --> 01:11:32.399
But I think for her, like, I think that this
1579
01:11:32.460 --> 01:11:36.359
was like potential bisexuality that was always there. And I
1580
01:11:36.420 --> 01:11:41.060
think just men take women for granted, especially over 35
1581
01:11:41.060 --> 01:11:45.510
or 40. And like, Having somebody who really appreciates you
1582
01:11:45.590 --> 01:11:49.550
and really takes care of you is very appealing in
1583
01:11:49.590 --> 01:11:54.180
its way. I just, look, Dorit is my favorite Beverly
1584
01:11:54.199 --> 01:11:55.220
Hills housewife, but.
1585
01:11:55.159 --> 01:11:57.800
She is built- Thank you, Guy. So many people have
1586
01:11:57.840 --> 01:12:00.800
seemed to have lost interest in what I'm really truly about.
1587
01:12:01.000 --> 01:12:03.699
I think she is running on fumes right now. Her
1588
01:12:03.819 -->
01:12:06.970
identity for two to three seasons has been, I'm Kyle's
1589
01:12:07.010 --> 01:12:09.729
best friend, and now Kyle doesn't want her to be
1590
01:12:09.770 --> 01:12:11.880
her best friend. And there was a moment in this
1591
01:12:11.939 --> 01:12:14.720
season when it seemed like Crystal Kung Minkoff was going
1592
01:12:14.760 --> 01:12:17.300
to attempt to dislodge her jaw and eat Kyle and
1593
01:12:18.199 --> 01:12:21.319
eat Dorit. And I was like, wonderful. Let there be
1594
01:12:21.420 --> 01:12:23.619
a little fight before there is the big fight between
1595
01:12:23.640 --> 01:12:23.960
the people.
1596
01:12:23.979 --> 01:12:27.520
Are we scared that this could be Dorit's last run?
1597
01:12:27.659 --> 01:12:29.680
I'm really, really worried about it.
1598
01:12:30.060 --> 01:12:32.220
I am too. For the first time, even though they
1599
01:12:32.260 --> 01:12:34.439
had a good therapy session where they're talking about how
1600
01:12:34.460 --> 01:12:37.180
he's like, you're not the happy, you know, you were
1601
01:12:37.279 --> 01:12:39.840
so excited, which I was like, Yeah, they do a
1602
01:12:39.859 --> 01:12:44.060
therapy session. He's like, she was so enthusiastic and everything
1603
01:12:44.079 --> 01:12:47.359
in the beginning. Well, 10 years ago, he was this
1604
01:12:47.479 --> 01:12:50.180
older rich guy and she was this young girl that
1605
01:12:50.359 --> 01:12:53.810
didn't have an English accent and had a different face.
1606
01:12:53.819 --> 01:12:57.149
And he let her spend and spend and spend. And
1607
01:12:57.670 --> 01:13:01.829
now she's not impressed with a pretty woman evening. She's not.
1608
01:13:02.310 --> 01:13:04.989
And it's like, well, that's what happens. Guys get a
1609
01:13:05.029 --> 01:13:07.479
young girl. And they're so excited that the guy bought
1610
01:13:07.500 --> 01:13:09.840
them a pair of shoes that they're going to prance
1611
01:13:09.880 --> 01:13:12.699
around in them and tell all their friends. And their
1612
01:13:12.720 --> 01:13:15.739
50-year-old first wife wasn't that excited about any gift the
1613
01:13:15.760 --> 01:13:19.350
guy got them. But then that young girl eventually becomes
1614
01:13:19.560 --> 01:13:23.090
just like wife one and is no longer impressed with you.
1615
01:13:23.109 --> 01:13:24.270
And that's all it is.
1616
01:13:24.289 --> 01:13:27.470
Kyle can get away with a season of just doing
1617
01:13:28.050 --> 01:13:31.970
light comedy in family scenes. There's nobody else who can
1618
01:13:32.010 --> 01:13:34.489
get away with a full season of just doing light
1619
01:13:34.529 --> 01:13:38.449
comedy in family scenes. And I really hope that Dorit
1620
01:13:38.479 --> 01:13:42.079
gets another season. And I don't think she will. But
1621
01:13:42.119 --> 01:13:47.060
if Dorit attempted to take down Crystal or the new girl.
1622
01:13:47.079 --> 01:13:48.300
What's the new girl's name?
1623
01:13:48.899 --> 01:13:49.239
Anne-Marie.
1624
01:13:49.260 --> 01:13:53.930
Anne-Marie. If she really attempted to Lucy Lucy Apple Juice
1625
01:13:53.989 --> 01:13:55.090
one of them. Yeah.
1626
01:13:55.250 --> 01:13:55.529
Like.
1627
01:13:56.449 --> 01:13:58.529
I would be thrilled by that. I think that that
1628
01:13:58.550 --> 01:14:01.670
would be good television. I think if she could properly
1629
01:14:01.850 --> 01:14:06.970
stay out of the sights of Garcelle or Sutton, she
1630
01:14:07.010 --> 01:14:10.930
could be really fun B-stories on a lot of shows.
1631
01:14:11.090 --> 01:14:13.789
So do you think Kyle and Morgan Wade are going
1632
01:14:13.810 --> 01:14:17.380
to be the reality version of Sarah Paulson and Holland Taylor,
1633
01:14:17.979 --> 01:14:21.340
the May-December lesbian relationship that's been going on for at
1634
01:14:21.399 --> 01:14:22.140
least 10 years?
1635
01:14:22.300 --> 01:14:26.779
Not at all. I respect... Sarah Paulson and her relationships
1636
01:14:27.100 --> 01:14:30.979
so much they are the fucking classiest Holland Taylor of
1637
01:14:31.100 --> 01:14:35.199
course Cherry Jones yes and looking at Sarah Paulson I
1638
01:14:35.239 --> 01:14:38.239
don't know when you look at Kyle being around Morgan
1639
01:14:38.260 --> 01:14:43.329
Wade I am just like she's I think truly enraptured.
1640
01:14:43.270 --> 01:14:45.750
I'm gonna make you love my first of all I
1641
01:14:45.989 --> 01:14:49.069
hate her so much I don't I actually like the
1642
01:14:49.109 --> 01:14:51.670
song that she played at the memorial though that song
1643
01:14:51.689 --> 01:14:57.439
had nothing to do with your friend dying But I,
1644
01:14:57.659 --> 01:15:02.850
you know, I also think girls do steal style from
1645
01:15:03.229 --> 01:15:04.670
their girlfriends and boyfriends.
1646
01:15:04.710 --> 01:15:04.989
Yes.
1647
01:15:05.149 --> 01:15:08.270
How many times has, you know, look at Kourtney Kardashian
1648
01:15:08.310 --> 01:15:12.560
becoming a punker. Like it happens at every age. You know,
1649
01:15:12.619 --> 01:15:14.359
it could totally happen. So I do think.
1650
01:15:14.399 --> 01:15:18.829
But also lesbian couple merging is it's stronger. Like it
1651
01:15:18.949 --> 01:15:21.090
is like losing sense of boundaries.
1652
01:15:21.109 --> 01:15:23.989
Because it's a double. It's your girlfriend, your best friend,
1653
01:15:24.029 --> 01:15:26.449
who's now you're sharing clothes with and style, but you're
1654
01:15:26.569 --> 01:15:29.310
also in love with them. So it's like a double
1655
01:15:29.510 --> 01:15:32.470
emerging of a thing. And so I do think she's
1656
01:15:32.510 --> 01:15:36.270
just enjoying that style. She's sober like Morgan. She's fit
1657
01:15:36.329 --> 01:15:39.449
like Morgan. Now she's getting into Morgan's music. She's doing
1658
01:15:39.510 --> 01:15:43.649
her documentary. She's done with, she's like had an awakening.
1659
01:15:44.409 --> 01:15:47.859
And I do think, but this is what I was thinking.
1660
01:15:48.170 --> 01:15:51.430
I think once she breaks up with Morgan, if they
1661
01:15:51.510 --> 01:15:55.170
don't end up their days together, I don't think she'll
1662
01:15:55.189 --> 01:15:57.630
have another lesbian relationship. I think she'll go back to
1663
01:15:57.670 --> 01:15:59.810
being with either Mauricio or another guy.
1664
01:15:59.829 --> 01:16:00.789
She'll go back to Mauricio.
1665
01:16:01.010 --> 01:16:01.149
Yeah.
1666
01:16:01.189 --> 01:16:03.090
Okay. I think the thing is, is like, this is
1667
01:16:03.130 --> 01:16:06.149
not a situation. This is not a situation where like
1668
01:16:07.090 --> 01:16:13.529
a high functioning service lesbian came, like a service top
1669
01:16:13.569 --> 01:16:15.750
lesbian who is like, I'm going to be in control,
1670
01:16:15.789 --> 01:16:18.470
but for you. Came to where Kyle was. She made
1671
01:16:18.550 --> 01:16:22.270
Kyle pick up everything and move everything. And, like, Kyle
1672
01:16:22.310 --> 01:16:24.909
doesn't want to be sober. Kyle doesn't, you know, she
1673
01:16:24.949 --> 01:16:27.569
wants to be a little bit fit. But, like, I
1674
01:16:27.630 --> 01:16:29.890
really do think that this is something she'll do for
1675
01:16:29.989 --> 01:16:33.229
an exquisite 18 months. And then I think she will
1676
01:16:33.270 --> 01:16:36.850
find out about Morgan having strayed a little bit in
1677
01:16:36.930 --> 01:16:41.329
some way. And then, like, it'll be a journey out
1678
01:16:41.369 --> 01:16:43.270
of that and then a journey back to Mauricio.
1679
01:16:43.329 --> 01:16:43.590
Because.
1680
01:16:44.289 --> 01:16:44.710
Or Morgan.
1681
01:16:46.939 --> 01:16:49.819
We'll just kind of go out of her. Just like,
1682
01:16:49.840 --> 01:16:51.699
you know, like I'm kind of over this and I
1683
01:16:51.739 --> 01:16:54.060
got what I needed out of it. I don't know.
1684
01:16:54.119 --> 01:16:58.010
Right now they're very close. They spent her birthday together
1685
01:16:58.020 --> 01:17:01.430
in Mexico. They're walking around in similar outfits.
1686
01:17:01.750 --> 01:17:03.789
Okay. The other way I think this could go is
1687
01:17:04.630 --> 01:17:06.630
Kyle gets brought into, and one of the things that's
1688
01:17:06.649 --> 01:17:10.550
hard about this is like becoming a lesbian involves merging
1689
01:17:10.649 --> 01:17:13.859
into this, like potentially this larger world of female friendship
1690
01:17:14.180 --> 01:17:16.590
that isn't any of these ladies that we love. But
1691
01:17:16.609 --> 01:17:19.569
I think if she goes to some lesbian parties and
1692
01:17:19.630 --> 01:17:23.170
then one of Morgan's friends or one of Morgan's ex-girlfriends
1693
01:17:23.649 --> 01:17:26.770
makes a play at her, that is the only step
1694
01:17:26.890 --> 01:17:29.609
up the ladder of lesbianism I think that she makes.
1695
01:17:29.670 --> 01:17:32.350
Would be if, let's be honest, a higher ranking, more
1696
01:17:32.409 --> 01:17:37.550
powerful lesbian, like if one of Jodie Foster's exes was
1697
01:17:37.710 --> 01:17:40.789
at a party and was like, hey Kyle, I really
1698
01:17:40.829 --> 01:17:42.930
love you on the show. I think that that could happen.
1699
01:17:42.949 --> 01:17:44.630
But I don't think that's ever going to happen because
1700
01:17:44.670 --> 01:17:48.149
a real power lesbian... is not going to be interested
1701
01:17:48.350 --> 01:17:49.729
in a Kyle type, do you think?
1702
01:17:50.069 --> 01:17:54.289
I think, like, they, like, for some of them, the
1703
01:17:54.350 --> 01:17:57.449
notion of having a status wife, the notion of being
1704
01:17:57.470 --> 01:18:01.579
a husband, like, I think that there are LA power
1705
01:18:01.600 --> 01:18:06.000
lesbians who would like the appeal of being a Mauricio
1706
01:18:06.119 --> 01:18:09.380
or a PK on this show. You know, like, I
1707
01:18:09.420 --> 01:18:11.960
show up, I make her happy, and then I go off,
1708
01:18:12.079 --> 01:18:13.800
and that's my place in this world.
1709
01:18:13.819 --> 01:18:16.779
Yeah. Yeah. Exactly.
1710
01:18:16.979 --> 01:18:19.289
Okay, but also, no, before we move on, do you
1711
01:18:19.310 --> 01:18:20.869
think Sutton overplayed her hand this season?
1712
01:18:22.489 --> 01:18:24.989
No. What do you mean overplayed her hand?
1713
01:18:25.489 --> 01:18:26.810
Just being her.
1714
01:18:27.449 --> 01:18:28.949
Acting like the PTSD thing?
1715
01:18:29.029 --> 01:18:32.539
Making everything about her and being so aggressive and kind
1716
01:18:32.579 --> 01:18:35.979
of putting herself into a situation where even Garcelle wasn't
1717
01:18:36.020 --> 01:18:37.239
excited about defending her.
1718
01:18:39.960 --> 01:18:41.800
Yeah, I mean, I just think there's seasons where there
1719
01:18:41.819 --> 01:18:43.680
just isn't that much going on with you.
1720
01:18:43.819 --> 01:18:44.140
Yes.
1721
01:18:44.779 --> 01:18:44.930
And.
1722
01:18:45.600 --> 01:18:47.800
You know, and you are like, uh, I, and I
1723
01:18:47.840 --> 01:18:50.819
don't think she's over the, whatever happened that night. I
1724
01:18:50.859 --> 01:18:52.960
think that she is freaked out about it and she
1725
01:18:53.060 --> 01:18:55.659
is going to use it for sympathy and he's over it.
1726
01:18:55.760 --> 01:19:00.229
He's tired of it. Um, about the robbery because he's like, well,
1727
01:19:00.770 --> 01:19:03.050
you know, you weren't hurt.
1728
01:19:03.109 --> 01:19:03.949
I'm talking about Sutton.
1729
01:19:04.670 --> 01:19:05.329
Oh, Sutton.
1730
01:19:05.369 --> 01:19:05.550
Sorry.
1731
01:19:05.569 --> 01:19:08.810
I thought I said to read. Um, Sutton with, oh
1732
01:19:08.829 --> 01:19:12.010
my God, let's just talk about the bad acting at
1733
01:19:12.909 --> 01:19:18.189
the casting of her dates. They're all former actors. I
1734
01:19:18.210 --> 01:19:20.789
feel like I'm watching Million Dollar Listing, which I'm going
1735
01:19:20.810 --> 01:19:23.850
to get to right here. Million Dollar, not listing, Million
1736
01:19:23.869 --> 01:19:25.630
Dollar Matchmaker. This is Patty.
1737
01:19:25.649 --> 01:19:26.609
The amazing Patty Stanger.
1738
01:19:26.710 --> 01:19:29.090
This is Patty now. And I've been friends with her
1739
01:19:29.130 --> 01:19:34.279
for a long time. And I know since... Now Netflix
1740
01:19:34.300 --> 01:19:36.279
just bought the show and I couldn't believe it. So
1741
01:19:36.319 --> 01:19:38.020
I went back and was watching it from 2011. And
1742
01:19:39.510 --> 01:19:43.250
I just want to say her work on her face
1743
01:19:44.329 --> 01:19:46.949
is so good to think that in this day and age,
1744
01:19:46.989 --> 01:19:49.649
you could be cuter and hotter at 60 than you
1745
01:19:49.689 --> 01:19:53.520
were at like 43 is why it's great to be
1746
01:19:53.560 --> 01:19:54.260
born today.
1747
01:19:54.279 --> 01:19:55.939
Do you know her well enough to find out the
1748
01:19:55.960 --> 01:19:57.640
name of the doctors?
1749
01:19:58.140 --> 01:19:59.600
Oh, I'm sure she would tell me. She told me
1750
01:19:59.619 --> 01:20:02.539
she got her teeth done. So that's a big, big difference.
1751
01:20:03.060 --> 01:20:04.899
She always had full lips, but I think she had
1752
01:20:04.920 --> 01:20:06.800
her full. This is what I think. I think she just,
1753
01:20:07.000 --> 01:20:08.859
I think she had her nose done. And I think
1754
01:20:08.899 --> 01:20:12.460
she got jaw filler and cheekbones because I'm watching the
1755
01:20:12.500 --> 01:20:14.920
show and she didn't have that. So what? And then
1756
01:20:14.939 --> 01:20:17.880
she lost weight and she looks amazing. Looks fucking amazing
1757
01:20:17.899 --> 01:20:18.779
because this was her.
1758
01:20:18.810 --> 01:20:19.470
Yeah.
1759
01:20:20.250 --> 01:20:22.869
And she, where are these two people? So she had
1760
01:20:22.890 --> 01:20:27.270
these two for million dollar matchmaking. For those that don't know,
1761
01:20:27.329 --> 01:20:29.289
it was one of the first Bravo shows. It was
1762
01:20:29.449 --> 01:20:33.670
on for years and she would, I meet my millionaires.
1763
01:20:33.729 --> 01:20:36.890
And she put people. It was all very produced and
1764
01:20:36.949 --> 01:20:40.310
cast and everything. Okay. I don't think any two people
1765
01:20:40.329 --> 01:20:43.029
that met on the show ever ended up together. But
1766
01:20:43.210 --> 01:20:45.350
outside of that, she claimed that she really did have
1767
01:20:45.399 --> 01:20:50.300
matches that ended up together. So for some reason, she
1768
01:20:50.359 --> 01:20:54.180
had this couple that looked like they run a tattoo parlor.
1769
01:20:54.199 --> 01:20:55.079
It was ridiculous.
1770
01:20:55.140 --> 01:20:59.789
It made no sense why she had them. And then
1771
01:20:59.829 --> 01:21:03.010
they sit around and talk about these girls' styles, that
1772
01:21:03.029 --> 01:21:06.270
their dress doesn't fit, and that nobody likes a redhead.
1773
01:21:06.310 --> 01:21:10.210
And I'm like, this is what we're talking about? These
1774
01:21:10.229 --> 01:21:10.750
two people?
1775
01:21:10.909 --> 01:21:15.239
It was the magnificent ridiculousness of a more cast and
1776
01:21:15.279 --> 01:21:19.140
a more sort of like... The beginning of reality was
1777
01:21:19.220 --> 01:21:21.840
so weird. We didn't know what we were doing, and.
1778
01:21:22.619 --> 01:21:26.829
It is just amazing. So on this episode, they had
1779
01:21:26.850 --> 01:21:31.789
this guy, Gummy Bear. And his name in real life was,
1780
01:21:32.430 --> 01:21:36.210
was he Jason? Yeah, he was Jason Davies, who inherited
1781
01:21:36.250 --> 01:21:39.560
all this money. And so I just watched that episode
1782
01:21:39.569 --> 01:21:43.520
from like 2011. And he was like such a mess.
1783
01:21:44.500 --> 01:21:49.760
And his brother was named Jason Davies. And so coincidentally,
1784
01:21:49.819 --> 01:21:51.720
how the world universe just brings me something. So I
1785
01:21:51.720 --> 01:21:52.989
was talking to you about it.
1786
01:21:53.039 --> 01:21:53.260
Yes.
1787
01:21:53.319 --> 01:21:57.819
And I go, remember that time? Yesterday on TMZ, they
1788
01:21:57.840 --> 01:22:00.659
brought up the fact that in the Mean Girls movie,
1789
01:22:00.880 --> 01:22:04.680
the musical, they make a fire crotch reference.
1790
01:22:04.739 --> 01:22:05.060
Yes.
1791
01:22:05.159 --> 01:22:08.359
Which now Lindsay Lohan did not know until she like
1792
01:22:08.470 --> 01:22:11.289
went to the premiere or watched it. So she's not
1793
01:22:11.350 --> 01:22:18.199
happy because there was this moment when Jason Davies, who's
1794
01:22:18.239 --> 01:22:22.220
now engaged to a Pretty Little Liars actress, he was
1795
01:22:22.260 --> 01:22:24.800
hanging out with Paris. And they said, oh, what's up
1796
01:22:24.840 --> 01:22:28.149
with Lindsay? And he goes, Lindsay's a fire crotch. She's
1797
01:22:28.199 --> 01:22:30.949
a fire crotch. And here it is, Lindsay Lohan, she's
1798
01:22:30.989 --> 01:22:35.329
a fire crotch. And Lindsay's dad now is getting involved.
1799
01:22:35.350 --> 01:22:37.229
Why would they put that in the movie? Why would
1800
01:22:37.250 --> 01:22:41.649
they bring it up? Well, on that episode, the same
1801
01:22:41.850 --> 01:22:47.800
episode with the Gubby Bear guy, there's a redhead on
1802
01:22:47.840 --> 01:22:53.319
the show that's trying to get on. And Patty Singer's like, no,
1803
01:22:53.420 --> 01:22:56.520
you're not hot enough. You're not cute enough. You're not allowed.
1804
01:22:56.600 --> 01:22:58.800
And then she shows up at the party. Of course,
1805
01:22:58.840 --> 01:23:01.710
produced product. And then Patty goes. Get the hell out
1806
01:23:01.750 --> 01:23:04.510
of my party. You're an ugly redhead. You're always going
1807
01:23:04.529 --> 01:23:06.369
to be something like that. And she's like, you're a
1808
01:23:06.489 --> 01:23:09.350
fire crotch. And she calls her a fire crotch. The
1809
01:23:09.369 --> 01:23:10.609
girl trying to get on the show.
1810
01:23:10.630 --> 01:23:12.899
Did we do a monologue about that on Chelsea Lately?
1811
01:23:12.920 --> 01:23:16.220
We always talked about these things. This was the time
1812
01:23:16.359 --> 01:23:24.359
of Lindsay, Britney, Paris. It was that 2009 to 2011 time.
1813
01:23:24.520 --> 01:23:25.319
Beautiful times.
1814
01:23:25.399 --> 01:23:27.640
But she would tell people, these girls would walk in
1815
01:23:27.659 --> 01:23:29.800
and she'd be like, you're ugly, no one's gonna wanna
1816
01:23:29.840 --> 01:23:33.409
fuck you. It's literally that mean. She's like, fix your teeth.
1817
01:23:33.430 --> 01:23:36.550
We 100% could not do now. It would be, now
1818
01:23:36.569 --> 01:23:39.909
it would all be about learning and growing. But it
1819
01:23:40.109 --> 01:23:41.930
is beautiful to look back on that time.
1820
01:23:42.250 --> 01:23:44.220
No, there's even a part in this where the Gubby
1821
01:23:44.260 --> 01:23:49.239
Bear guy, he was Jason, Jason, right? Brandon was the
1822
01:23:49.300 --> 01:23:53.000
one who said the firecracker's alive. Jason goes, he's with
1823
01:23:53.020 --> 01:23:56.750
this girl, he gets a girl and he's like... asking
1824
01:23:56.789 --> 01:23:59.029
her about her underwear, what's under her skirt. And he's like,
1825
01:23:59.739 --> 01:24:01.439
but is there a cock under there? Cause that I
1826
01:24:01.460 --> 01:24:03.539
don't want any part of. And she's like, no.
1827
01:24:05.619 --> 01:24:06.539
Oh Jesus.
1828
01:24:06.619 --> 01:24:06.939
Yeah.
1829
01:24:07.119 --> 01:24:09.039
Like, no, I mean, we were.
1830
01:24:08.840 --> 01:24:11.079
Like, but I just hope people don't go after her
1831
01:24:11.140 --> 01:24:13.149
because this was a completely different time.
1832
01:24:13.369 --> 01:24:15.970
I mean, it is really horrifying to look back at
1833
01:24:16.010 --> 01:24:18.569
the way that trans people were talked about in media,
1834
01:24:19.069 --> 01:24:23.189
like five years ago, seven years ago. And it is really,
1835
01:24:23.409 --> 01:24:25.800
it is really rough. And I, Like, there are so
1836
01:24:25.819 --> 01:24:28.399
many people who are so lucky that nothing from Chelsea
1837
01:24:28.430 --> 01:24:32.829
lately is accessible online because so many of us would
1838
01:24:32.850 --> 01:24:33.489
be destroyed.
1839
01:24:33.510 --> 01:24:36.170
And that's why I'm saying, like, nobody needs to go
1840
01:24:36.310 --> 01:24:38.369
on this. If you want to spend your time and
1841
01:24:38.430 --> 01:24:41.310
go on this and then write her mean stuff or
1842
01:24:41.340 --> 01:24:43.539
start a mean hate group, it's not going to matter
1843
01:24:43.560 --> 01:24:45.439
because it's so long ago and nobody is going to
1844
01:24:46.159 --> 01:24:46.649
agree to it.
1845
01:24:47.039 --> 01:24:47.319
But.
1846
01:24:48.239 --> 01:24:48.500
It is.
1847
01:24:48.739 -->
01:24:50.119
I am sucked in. I am thoroughly enjoying. But also,
1848
01:24:50.140 --> 01:24:51.640
we all just, when we see these things, we just
1849
01:24:51.659 --> 01:24:54.819
need to learn. Oh, because even just, like, even just, like.
1850
01:24:55.100 --> 01:24:56.100
The unfashions.
1851
01:24:56.380 --> 01:24:59.390
But, like, Robert Downey Jr., who is going to win
1852
01:24:59.430 --> 01:25:02.130
an Academy Award this year, was nominated for an Academy
1853
01:25:02.170 --> 01:25:08.770
Award for a blackface performance 13 years ago. And, like, there's, like, truly,
1854
01:25:09.149 --> 01:25:11.659
it's wonderful how much the world has changed. But I
1855
01:25:11.699 --> 01:25:14.720
think particularly for young people, they don't understand how to
1856
01:25:14.760 --> 01:25:16.819
deal with it. And I think it is weird for
1857
01:25:16.880 --> 01:25:18.739
us to watch stuff from not that long ago and
1858
01:25:18.760 --> 01:25:20.619
just be like, Jesus Christ.
1859
01:25:20.939 --> 01:25:21.250
I know.
1860
01:25:21.409 --> 01:25:25.529
Conventional wisdom was so horrible to so many people. I
1861
01:25:25.569 --> 01:25:28.170
just want to say... I want.
1862
01:25:27.430 --> 01:25:29.220
To know where these two people are, by the way.
1863
01:25:29.270 --> 01:25:33.810
Matchmaking is an ancient and respected Jewish profession. And if
1864
01:25:34.170 --> 01:25:37.060
I am going to have a Shadchan, I want her
1865
01:25:37.119 --> 01:25:41.220
to be carrying an extra 15 pounds. Like, I trust...
1866
01:25:41.350 --> 01:25:44.170
those bosoms to find me a man much.
1867
01:25:44.050 --> 01:25:47.010
Better than the skinny fabulous version.
1868
01:25:47.149 --> 01:25:49.300
I wonder how much of that is Ozempic and how
1869
01:25:49.340 --> 01:25:50.640
much of that is like.
1870
01:25:50.680 --> 01:25:53.380
She's been skinny for a while. She's been looking amazing
1871
01:25:53.439 --> 01:25:54.140
for a while.
1872
01:25:54.319 --> 01:25:58.039
Okay. Why does... Why does Erica refuse to admit that
1873
01:25:58.079 --> 01:26:00.399
it's the O? Or do you think it is?
1874
01:26:00.460 --> 01:26:02.760
I think now people will admit it. Because the reason
1875
01:26:02.819 --> 01:26:07.039
why is last year, if you said it, then everyone
1876
01:26:07.079 --> 01:26:09.039
came after you and were like, you're taking it.
1877
01:26:09.140 --> 01:26:09.939
You're keeping diabetics.
1878
01:26:10.100 --> 01:26:11.960
Now that you, there's so many versions of it and
1879
01:26:12.039 --> 01:26:14.020
so many ways to get it. Now people are being
1880
01:26:14.079 --> 01:26:16.439
honest about it. There's still some people that have been
1881
01:26:16.479 --> 01:26:19.239
skinny their whole lives that aren't as cute as their
1882
01:26:19.439 --> 01:26:21.619
heavier friend who's now hotter than them because they always
1883
01:26:21.659 --> 01:26:24.189
had a cuter face. Who's like, you're cheating. And it's like,
1884
01:26:25.310 --> 01:26:27.729
Do what you want. And then people are always so
1885
01:26:27.789 --> 01:26:29.850
excited to hear that someone's bowels fell out in the
1886
01:26:29.909 --> 01:26:35.170
toilet or whatever. And I'm like, okay, so be careful.
1887
01:26:35.189 --> 01:26:37.789
It doesn't work for everybody. Just like any medication doesn't
1888
01:26:37.829 --> 01:26:40.829
work for everybody. But clearly, it's a miracle drug.
1889
01:26:40.850 --> 01:26:42.630
Where do you think they are now?
1890
01:26:42.989 --> 01:26:43.590
These people?
1891
01:26:43.750 --> 01:26:44.029
Yes.
1892
01:26:46.329 --> 01:26:50.069
Someone will find them for me, Juicy Scoopers. They– well,
1893
01:26:50.109 --> 01:26:52.189
I remember talking to her about it and she said
1894
01:26:52.229 --> 01:26:53.909
they didn't want to come back to the show. They
1895
01:26:53.949 --> 01:26:55.909
wanted more money and they were going to do their
1896
01:26:56.029 --> 01:26:59.560
own– they thought they were going to get their own show, Matchmaking.
1897
01:27:00.029 --> 01:27:00.300
Yeah.
1898
01:27:00.340 --> 01:27:02.359
Like punkers who matchmake. I don't know what they're going
1899
01:27:02.380 --> 01:27:06.420
to call. And I think they're probably not in the
1900
01:27:06.460 --> 01:27:10.439
business at all, like probably no longer together because they
1901
01:27:11.079 --> 01:27:12.520
probably blamed each other for the breakup.
1902
01:27:12.539 --> 01:27:13.579
Yeah.
1903
01:27:15.250 --> 01:27:17.720
You know, just having normal lives. Just working. Maybe she's, like,
1904
01:27:17.760 --> 01:27:19.579
a hairdresser and he's, like, a tattoo artist or something.
1905
01:27:19.600 --> 01:27:22.399
Well, there's the really rough thing about, like, first 10
1906
01:27:22.399 --> 01:27:24.760
or 15 years of reality TV. It's possible that they
1907
01:27:24.779 --> 01:27:26.939
were just getting supporting characters.
1908
01:27:27.829 --> 01:27:31.630
Like, $ 2, 000. Yeah. And then they were seeing all the
1909
01:27:31.670 --> 01:27:36.010
popularity and were like, well, if we can't get $ 3, 000
1910
01:27:34.689 --> 01:27:37.880
an app. And they're like, well, then goodbye. Patty, just
1911
01:27:38.020 --> 01:27:39.539
dump them. You need a different thing.
1912
01:27:39.680 --> 01:27:39.939
Yeah.
1913
01:27:40.279 --> 01:27:42.720
Yeah, but. Also, that's okay to leave because it's like
1914
01:27:42.979 --> 01:27:45.359
you might have tapped out. Like if this is all
1915
01:27:45.390 --> 01:27:48.090
you've gotten after being on three years, your fourth year
1916
01:27:48.149 --> 01:27:50.590
isn't going to like pop you into an amazing spot.
1917
01:27:50.630 --> 01:27:53.609
Because after her success, they tried to do a show
1918
01:27:53.649 --> 01:27:58.510
called The Headhunteress. And my friend got cast as. What
1919
01:27:58.529 --> 01:28:00.859
is that? It was like she was like a high
1920
01:28:00.920 --> 01:28:05.239
end like headhunter for businesses.
And they ran the pilot
1921
01:28:05.520 --> 01:28:08.279
on Bravo a couple of times. But like they cast
1922
01:28:08.319 --> 01:28:11.170
her secretary. They did not use her actual secretary. they
1923
01:28:11.210 --> 01:28:14.670
like cast, um, my, my friend who at that time
1924
01:28:14.710 --> 01:28:19.039
presented as hot gay and is now non-binary. You know,
1925
01:28:19.060 --> 01:28:24.359
we'll see how we present like, or like, it is
1926
01:28:24.619 --> 01:28:27.460
more appropriate to use they as pronouns for them. Um,
1927
01:28:27.600 --> 01:28:30.520
but they, at that point in time looked like hot
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gay man.
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Okay.
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Um, but they like figured themselves out and now present
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as more a lady.
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Oh, all right. Well, who knows? I'm going to end
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on this as how someone sent this to me and
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they go, I bet this was a movie Heather loved.
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It was called Angel.
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Yes.
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It was one of my favorite made for TV movies.
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High school honor student by day. Hollywood hooker by night.
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Her two worlds are about to collide. It's her choice,
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her chance, her life. You guys, I have to get
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my hands on this movie. I absolutely watched it growing up.
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Like literally put it in my calendar, could not wait
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for it to come out. I loved anything about street
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walking because I liked their slutty outfits that you had
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to wear to be a street walking hooker. Now you
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just do it at your own home with OnlyFans.
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Yes.
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And she went to a private school like I did
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and had a very nice life but loved being a hooker.
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Can you believe someone wrote this? A girl under 18
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wants to be a hooker? Wants to be a sex worker?
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Which they called hooker back then.
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There's also the way that late 70s, early 80s, we
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were obsessed with the sexuality of teenagers. It was like
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making a movie about how 13-year-olds wanted to get it
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on with adult men. was supposed to be sophisticated. Though,
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I finally, I listened to the podcast, You Must Remember This,
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about Polly Platt, and I didn't realize- Who's Polly Platt?
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Polly Platt is the woman who was married to the
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guy who directed Last Picture Show. She's who Irreconcilable Differences
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is based on.
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Okay.
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So her husband was a director, and she worked with him,
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and then they broke up, and he stopped making good movies.
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And then she produced a bunch of stuff and wrote
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a bunch of stuff, And when I realized that Pretty
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Baby was written by a woman, and like a smart
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woman who I respected, I was like, oh God, this
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movie that I've always considered very gross, I will go
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and watch it. And it ended up being an interesting
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movie that was trying to like grapple with the commodification
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of women's sexuality. But then did you watch the Brooke
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Shields documentary?
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Yes, and I've watched the movie too, yeah.
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But like the Brooke Shields documentary, her children just being like,
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I never want to see that. Like having to, like
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realizing that there are children out there who have to
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be like, there's a movie about my mom being sexualized
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as a child, which is really gross. But I also
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think that like when you are a 13, 14, 15
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year old girl, particularly, did you watch?
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I mean, I'm just like, I'm just thinking about this movie. Okay,
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first of all, it was written by this guy, Robert
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Vincent O'Neill. Where is he? And then also, like, I
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have to deal with this movie. Like, why did she
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have to do it? Like, just like when I think
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about Pretty Woman, you know, I'm like, But Pretty Woman,
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the character of Julie Roberts, before she got picked up
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in the car, was, like, going in strangers' cars and, like,
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sucking strangers' dirty dick for $ 100.
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And living with drug-addicted Laura San Giacomo. And having sex.
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And having full-blown sex with strangers.
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And also, but, like,
just beyond that is the knowledge that, like,
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because of those women's place in society and the economy—
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A third of those guys thought that they got to
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knock them around or whatever. And the fact that we
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make this movie that romanticizes it is so strange.
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It's so crazy.
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But did you see the movie Bottoms? I mean, I
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cannot imagine it as something you wanted to see.
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No, but I saw the ad. It was about gay guys, right?
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No, no. Am I getting the name wrong?
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No, but it was girls and guys, but what's it about?
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Was it not about gay sex?
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It's about lesbian sex. It's about girls who start a
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fight club at their high school. But, like, one of
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the jokes in it is that, like, high school is
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just this machine for celebrating the changes in men's bodies. Like,
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you know, the way that, like, every high school football
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player is, like, a pinup that the school is getting
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excited about and cheering for. And, like, Women have traditionally
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not had people who were, like, getting excited about, in, like,
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a comfortable way with their coming to sexual agency. And
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I think that I know so many women around my
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age who would watch this or, like, that, was it
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called Foxes? Yeah, Foxes. Who were just like, yes, I
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am having these feelings. I want to go on these
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adventures in a safe way, the way that Christy McNichol
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gets to, and not in a way that involves my
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uncle looking at me weird when I wear a tight shirt.
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Oh my god, Guy Branum, we gotta wrap it up.
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Tell everybody where they can follow you, what you have
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going on.
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I am at Guy Branum across all social media. I
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have a.
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A show at the Elysian on May 7th in Los Angeles.
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And people, I think tickets are coming out as part
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of Netflix is a joke. Oh, classy. And my talk
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show got taken off of Max. So you can no
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longer watch it there. So it doesn't exist now.
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Oh, well, wait. But you said you have another show
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in Atlanta.
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I don't know. That was just from the past.
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Oh, from the past.
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Okay. Okay.
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Well, listen, you're working on so many things. You're a writer, producer, showrunner,
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show creator. Yes.
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Actor. We all have a lot of hyphens.
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You have a lot of shit going on. So follow
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Guy besides him being brilliant.
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Yes. You're a game show guest. You're a singer. You're
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a licensed real estate agent.
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No, not any. Well, I let that expire.
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So technically I'm not. I, during the strike, was like,
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do I have to re-up my bar membership? Yeah.
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Did you?
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No.
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Anyway, thank you so much, everyone. Go to HeatherMcDowell.net for
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all of my stuff. Patreon Friday. Thank you.
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